February 8, 2023 • 50 mins
Dang y'all who's ready for a downer episode? Honda made a movie that should have ranked among his finest if it wasn't just a little bit off, devoid of the love and passion normally found in these movies. Turns out making movies is hard when your workplace is falling apart and one of your closest collaborators dies right as you start making it.
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So they head back into the cave,hoping to get some bats so that
they can basically use the bats for defense.
Hello. I thought they were like, okay,
we need to create a Sonic weaponthat will drive them off and
they were like no we need bats. We just need regular bats.
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Hello everyone and welcome to Castle Bravo.
A Godzilla versus retrospective I'm Derek and I'm Charlotte and
weird two siblings here to examine the history of the
Godzilla franchise one movie at a time.
Charlotte. Hey, how you doing today?
Doing? All right.
Doing all right Hyundai? Yeah, it's one of those Sunday's
is you put it. You like looked up and it was
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12:45 like getting close to timeto record.
That does feel like how today isgone so far.
I feel like it's Already over even though it's one that's that
is the fault of capitalism because we were like the
Twilight of a Sunday, is the worst feeling if you have a
Monday through Friday job, because it's like, well, my time
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away from work is almost over. Yeah.
All of the stuff that I didn't get done this weekend because I
was recovering from the work week.
Yeah. Yeah it's hell but at least it's
relatively pretty out today compared to how it's been.
It's been bitter cold and it's like Or 60 out there right now.
Yeah so that's that's good for in early February.
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That only means that the usual annual flooding of the city must
be coming in the next week or two.
True swear to God every FebruaryLouisville, just goes under
water for a couple days but it is what it is.
Yeah, so so far on Castle Bravo.Man, this is, this is a weird
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in. This is a weird movie to talk
about. About me.
And you were kind of mentioning before hand that like neither of
us has a good like beat on how we feel about this movie.
Yeah. So too.
Yeah, today's movie is called space amoeba.
It's also known in America as yog monster from space.
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That was what it was originally yah, United States yog, monster
from space. And that's the name that it got
here in America because I guess yog was going to be the name for
the The space bacteria or whatever?
I don't know, we didn't watch the dub.
We're done with the Cubs. Godzilla's Revenge has made that
a permanent. We're sticking.
Hardcore to it. The sun.
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Thank God. They're all like easily
available. Good quality copies of every
movie from here on cuz I can't fucking do that again.
But like the history of Castle Bravo leading up to.
This point is a weird one because the first season Aside
from the second Godzilla movie was almost entirely sure, o
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Honda and it was Honda 100% on his bullshit, you know, making
just Banger after Banger after Banger of cool, Sci-Fi movies
with a lot of cool, like ideas and, and statements put into
them and eventually we had to start getting the the crossover
stuff to make bigger and bigger Blockbusters.
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You know, we got King Kong vs. Godzilla Mothra vs.
Godzilla Ghidorah, the three-headed monster And
eventually was like okay well here's where we're at.
Is this weird middle point of these movies are kind of losing
their themes and losing their social commentary but Honda's
make and Banger fucking movies, right?
So it's okay because you can still feel the passion that he
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has for all of all of the moviesthat he's making.
Even when he even when he's making family movies, he's
having a blast there funny, you know, there's a ton of good
energy in them. We got To season two of Castle,
Bravo, and Honda has been takingmore of a backseat for the most
part. 2, June fuka, you know, who got his run on the Godzilla
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movies so far. And we've been, we've been
having a lot of Godzilla Island Adventures until we had Destroy
All Monsters, which was our big return to the Alien Invasion
formula. And up to this point, there's
been a ton of non Godzilla movies that have become part of
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Godzilla retroactively, or will end up becoming part of Godzilla
retroactively, like gorath was intended to be part of Destroy
All Monsters, it isn't yet. It's going to get referenced in
a future Godzilla movie. You know, stuff like that, this
movie space amoeba. Takes place in kind of a pivotal
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point in Honda's. Career in Touhou is a film
studio and it's also the last non Godzilla movie to get made
to get connected into Godzilla in every, every non Godzilla
movie that connects into Godzilla ends up being made by
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ishiro Honda, which kind of helps cement that like, there's
no way to separate Godzilla the character the Sighs from Honda
as a director, will get a littlemore into what was going on
behind the scenes, this movie later because there's a lot
going on that I think blood through into the film itself
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accidentally. But for now Charlotte why don't
you tell us what happens in space amoeba.
All right? So the intro to this movie was
actually pretty interesting because it just says like
Flashes of different monsters onthe screen.
Yeah. Oh, it's a great intro.
You're like, wow, look at all these weird crazy creature.
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Like, I know I'm in for some wild shit, right?
And it has their name in Japanese and on the front.
So I was like, is this actually the name of the movie at first?
I think it's his billing them like actors.
Yeah, it was. I mean, there is a longer
version of the title of the movie that I saw that.
The Japanese had all the movie that did include all the
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monster's name. Mm.
Yeah. Well, except by now, we're going
by what are often much shorter and much more to the point
International titles. So right except Germany,
probably, right, because this isprobably Frankenstein's
Menagerie. You know?
The the zoo of outer space or some shit in Germany.
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Okay. So plot begins with Healy 07
this unmanned probe and it's being launched to explore.
Jupiter. But on the way there, fairly
quickly actually, this Blue Mistin space climbs into the probe,
and then basically Pilots the probe back to Earth.
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And so back on Earth, Kudo who'sour main guy?
Basically, he's a photographer, he's reading a newspaper aboard,
the plane. And the newspaper says, The
Helio 7 has disappeared. And that's, of course, strange
because it's an unmanned probe. It should be going.
Like, one way out, one way back and that's it.
It but basically On Cue, he looks out the window and there's
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Helio 7 just like parachuting down into the ocean so he gets
back to his Publishers office and he's like hey I just saw the
unmanned probe fall back to Earth and nobody believes him
because they're like that doesn't make any sense.
Know you didn't? Yes, was be out there for years.
It's only been a couple of months right?
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And he superintend. He's like I could go under water
and get some really good pictures of this.
And his boss is like, no, actually you're going to go to
Brazil or you're going to lose your job and you know, that's
not that's not what he wanted tohear.
So he leaves the building, what he wanted to hear, Sony wanted
to hear. So this this woman who names I
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Echo appears and asks him to take pictures of an island for
her. And this island is called cell
Geo Island. And so she takes her back to
where she works. And it's all for the sake of
this development company. They want to get pictures of the
island to make the island look attractive.
So people will want to live there.
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And of course, they're making these statements are like this.
It'll be good development. Will be good for that Island,
including the people that already live there.
So they're just going to like, bulldoze these this Village I
guess. Yeah, I mean that's definitely
we're familiar with Honda this point that's capitalists speak
for we are going to do a small genocide, right?
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So dr. MIA who Kudos worked for or
worked with before? He's a biologist he enters the
room and he's actually going to the island to study life there
because he believes there are monsters on the island.
And as it turns out the spot that Kudo thought that the
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Helios 7 went down is the exact same spot that it's like right
off the coast of sell Geo Island.
So it's in his best interest to just go.
So now we cut to sell Geo Islandand these two men have decided
they're going to go fishing and it's clear that they're not like
from the island because everybody on the island is like,
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don't go there, we have perfectly good reasons, you
shouldn't fish here. Anyway, I'm sure it's just
Superstition, so they go out there.
They start fishing in the water is like, really weirdly cold.
And then, all of a sudden, this blue light appears the same blue
light that was in space in the water.
And this giant cuttlefish emerges and just grabs one of
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the men and just eat some. I fucking love this sequence.
I I'm like so I've never seen this movie before.
Okay and I'm familiar. Familiar with the monsters from
it. It gives Aura is famously in
that, not very good. NES Godzilla game.
That has the Creepypasta about it.
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Camee best will show up in a future Godzilla movie.
It's like a cameo. Like, so I'm familiar with them,
but I hadn't seen them in context in the movie and gazzara
the, the cuddle fish or squid, or whatever it is, is really
kind of upsetting looking as it like a breeze.
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Is the water with its glowing orange eyes, you know, just
above the surface of the water as the tentacles come out.
It's yeah, it's a pretty good effect and it has that that like
undersea creature look in its eyes were, it's not really
looking at anything. Yes, it's just kind of staring
awful, it does things. So, yeah, one of the guys just
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get picked up off the ground andeaten now, the other man runs
away to try to go, tell the village what he saw in the
villagers are like we should. Never have angered gives Aura.
So now, who do I Echo and dr. Mia.
They're all on this ship going to the island.
Now, this fourth guy shows up. His name is obata, he's an
anthropologist and he sits down,and this is like, immediately
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the sleaziest man you've ever seen.
But he sits down with him, and he introduces himself, he's
like, yeah, I'm going to the same island, you are.
Isn't that funny, huh? Honey.
Ha ha, ha dr. Mia shows up to tell everybody
about what happened on the island with his Aura because
like somebody died and they cover the fact that the Island
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used to actually have like a Japanese Garrison on it during
the war. So everybody there speaks
Japanese so they can just circumvent that whole issue.
Yeah, yeah. So they get to the island and
their, their Guide to the islandnamed Rico runs off to find the
others. And right before he leaves, he's
like, The Japanese are what makeis Aura.
So mad the people on the island,don't actually like the
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Japanese. Yeah, they make that pretty
clear in the movie which like again, like props to Honda, this
is kind of his style like he's kind of boldly willing to be
like, hey, we were, we were bad guys in the war.
Y'all know that right, right? So Obama has basically invited
himself along and everybody's saying, well we hope to see
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everything on the island in a week but it's a lot.
To see in a week, Rico returns with mr.
Yokoyama, who it was a little unclear to me, I think he like
owns The Firm that is there, buthe's basically an important guy
for them to be reporting to and they show up in a jeep to pick
everybody up. And they had to a nearby cave
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and the blue light appears in the cave, and the water rises
and lowers. And the guy that was eaten
earlier, his watch is on the cave floor.
And since the, since Rico is with them, like he knew that guy
and he's like, oh, that's that guys watched.
So yokoyama, flees with Rico in the Jeep to pack up because he's
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like, this is this freaking me out?
I'm gonna leave, I'm gonna warn Japan, there's a giant monster
on this island. And right, well as he's doing
that because Zora just gets out of the water and walks onto the
island, which honestly is not something I expected that thing
to be. Yeah.
It's a little goofy looking because it's just an opera.
Like what they've done is they've kind of hidden the
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actors legs by creating like a skirt of octopus legs and
tentacles like around it. And then the two that are kind
of like used like arms, and it kind of hides the shuffling of
the actors feet as he moves, it's not great.
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Like it. Well, I'd say it's not perfect,
but But like, I was specificallylooking for like, how goofy is
this gonna look? It's not bad.
It's surprisingly solid work. Yeah.
I mean, like, I kept noticing that like, two of the legs were
the stabilizing legs. Yes.
Liam barely moved compared to the other ones and, you know,
but it didn't look that bad. It was, it was more noticeable
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that I'm used to. But yeah, so is or gets out of
the water and basically, just belines directly to Yokohama and
Rico in this house. Ow.
And it takes yokoyama and eats them, but at least Rico on the
ground because they get scared off by bats like these bats like
form up above it and deserve screeching at until it runs
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away. So the others get out of the
cave and their gods lunch time. I'm going to go eat but they
find that the Jeep is racked andYahoo yama's.
Little Hut is destroyed and Rico's.
She's catatonic on the ground. And Rico's body has frostbite
from just being touched by gazzara earlier.
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You literally just we're like the tentacle suckers touched
him. Yeah obata.
Of course thinks this is all just a big prank 2 drive them
off because they don't want, youknow, development on their
Island which they be valid to doif that was the case.
But he in the in the rubble finds plans for like an
underwater hotel and he like Pockets them.
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Yeah. So Rico's partner.
She shows up and tries to consult them and says that she
knows where a doctor is. So they all had into the village
to try to get a doctor for Rico and they're not welcomed very
warmly, the shaman curses them calls them Devils, but they do
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manage to get inside and start treatment for Rico.
Kudo. Honestly is like this monster is
really cool. I want to take pictures of it.
The giant ice cuttlefish up and just walk in the fucking Fuck
around. Yeah, I mean I want to take
pictures of it too, but this conversation leads obata to be
like. Yeah, by the way, I'm a company
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spy. I'm obviously a company spy.
Yeah. So to do and dr.
Mia go into the water to take pictures of Helios 7, which they
do find, they get pictures of pretty quickly, but because or
appears on their way back and starts trying to grab them as
they struggle with their harpoons, but a pod of dolphins,
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dolphins. A lot of dolphins swim through,
it's been a hard day. It has The Pod swims through and
gazzara is forced to let them gobecause the pot is like
screaming at them but they managed to get back ashore but
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because Aura starts heading backInland after them and obata
standing there. Like, you know, I think I'd
really like to put this giant cuttlefish in a show of it was
real but he looks up and gives or has like looking down at the
village and he's like, oh yeah because it was real good news,
buddy. So the shaman like tries to
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appease gazzara and gives or awhile it's like flailing around
actually get set on fire just toshow that its weak to fire.
Those things are weak to fire. It fucking hurts true.
But I mean this thing being you'd like an alien cuttlefish
that might have been a question somebody had.
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Um so doctor I have a question for you will you bring that up
kind of because it's it's No, I'm going to wait until later,
actually. Okay, well later point to bring
this up. Okay, continue.
I'm sorry. No, you're fine, dr.
Mia and Kudo meet up with the survivors and they looked down
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at the village and then trying to discuss with the Dual beca
Zora. And then some men just show up
with guns and gasoline and they're like, all right we're
just going to burn it so who do and dr.
Mia start firing on Goods or at a Laura into a gas.
Strap, which works angles or is caught on fire and they runs
away and he just slams face-first into the ocean.
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Yeah, yeah. It's is, is not doing good.
Yeah, so the same blue light from earlier emerges from it and
goes off somewhere. Yeah, the the glow leaves it.
Hmm. So now, I will bring up the
thing I was going to say, do we think is Aura was actually a
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pre-existing monster or do you think it's Eli?
If that was mutated because I think the idea behind some of
the later monsters to appear as that they are regular animals
that were mutated but gazzara seems a little more special than
they are. So dr.
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MIA later on basically names every animal that's mutated yeah
like what the real-world equivalent would be.
My issue with that explanation that they did.
It was just a cuttlefish that was made big is later on a human
gets overtaken by it and they don't change.
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Yeah. It will in like you know, maybe
people are considered different rate.
What's weird for me is that the the other two monsters are very
like showa style mundane giant animals and gazzara has fucking
I Powers right? Which I mean it could just be
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the space amoeba like mutating it further.
It's also a little different because the people on the island
like have this, you know, God orMonster or whatever that they
know of called gazzara. And it's like, okay.
Is this a thing that's been around in some form that was
mutated? Or are they, is it, a Godzilla
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sort of situation where the Islanders were projecting?
Like their beliefs and myths on to a new thing.
I thought that it was the latter.
Yeah, I thought that that's, that's kind of what I think is
my headset like just turned off since you're good.
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But anyway, that's kind of what I'm thinking.
Is that? It's the latter?
Yeah, but Yeah. I mean, I I have no reason to
think that if they offer the explanation of these are normal
monsters that were made huge. I have no reason to be like,
well, I don't think that's true.Yeah.
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You know what I mean? That's, that's a good point.
Honda doesn't really like play with the idea that like his, his
scientists often know, things they shouldn't sometimes right?
Because they're just not good atscience.
It's not that his scientists make a bunch of unrealistic
Proclamations. So right?
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Good point. So the gang finds the old
ammunition bunker and it has a ton of gasoline in it and
they're based like, well, if it ever comes back, we're going to
be okay. But doctor me is not sure
because he's not convinced that that was just some random
cuddlefish. Meanwhile, obata is like, man, I
got to get out of here so he's like your call did everything.
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Yeah. So they line the island with
with centuries. People holding Spears basically
and Mike Fiers that they've LED waiting to see if his Aura comes
back. So I Echo actually is like I
think dr. Mia.
I think you might know something, but dr.
Mia basically is like I don't know anything.
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I'm scared, I don't wanna be here.
So the men from the the ammo depot bring up this this machine
gun emplacement from the war andit accidentally goes off and
almost kills obata on the raft. That he is trying to get away on
but then this huge wave comes upwhich almost kills him again
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immediately after because I think he might be like, God's
least favorite Anthropologist. So this red light appears in the
water and this huge crab comes up, it's called ghanem has and
so they try to fire at it but its armor is too strong for
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normal rounds. So Please the shoreline but
Kudo, I don't know what experience this man had before
this. But he like Snipes out.
One of God. Oh my God.
Yeah, if he blows the eye out, it's crazy.
And you like get a shot of the like deflated.
I at the end of the stalk linking like red paint.
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It's like oh wow. Yeah.
And he gets I Echo to a safe spot and then he just shoots out
the other eye. Fuck this crab, In particular to
be like. So why didn't they do this shit
to get Zora? I don't know.
I mean he didn't have the gun already.
Well, that's true. Fuck the crabs eyes in
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particular. Yeah, so the crab now,
completely blind falls down the hill that they're on onto a huge
stack of like gasoline canistersthat they'd set up just in case.
And I hate when I do that, I hate when I fall down the hill
directly onto the giant stack ofgasoline canisters, that
somebody is placed So key to do climbs up the side of the
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mountain with I goes help because he's like dangling off
the edge and he just shoots the canisters a few times and blows
up Panama's, that's it for grandmas.
And luckily for everyone, obata is still alive.
Despite the fact that his raft was shot and he was launched out
of the ocean. But he walks up and he finds the
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crab like was left of the crab, and the blue light leaves the
crab and surrounds his body, andhe collapses in this voice
speaks out to him. And it tells him that they have
taken control of his body and they intend to conquer Earth
with him. So meanwhile, this is when dr.
Me is like, because or has a cuttlefish got him as a rubble
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crab. And clearly this thing from
space showed up, made them big and made it a met the man.
Attack us, whatever it is I guess it can pass through metal.
So Kudo being our main guy is just determined to destroy this
thing before it gets any further.
And I cause like, we don't even know how we're going to warn
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everybody in the dr. Mia is like, yeah, we have to
figure out how we're going to fight it.
We have to stop it here basically.
Yeah. Sake appears with Rico who still
catatonic and it's like, I'm going to marry him.
Which school during the wedding Rico who has like this, this
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huge fear of light because of the attack that he suffered who
do like takes a picture of him with a flash on and it scares
him and he runs away and he snaps out of it.
Basically, because of the brightlight, the students, this dude's
mental health is really I mean from very early in the movie,
this dude is not Doing well and I think like we can I joke about
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it but like this is maybe some of the best portrayal of like a
person who has had to deal with a giant monster up close and
their entire worldview is just fucked.
Yeah like he's traumatized this man is barely staying like on
the ground, right? But he does manage to get to the
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point where you can like talk again and he explains everybody
that the only reason he survivedHis encounter was because the
bat showed up and then dr. Mia.
Remembers that the Dolphins werealso able to drive it off using
like ultrasonic waves. So he determines that.
The creatures weakness is probably ultrasonic sound
basically, so they head back into the cave, hoping to get
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some bats so that they can basically use the bats for
defense. Hello.
I thought they were like, okay, we need to create a Sonic weapon
that will drive them off when they were like no we need bats.
We just need regular bats. Yeah, go find me some were
fucking bats. Go into that.
We Haver. But they get there and all the
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bats have been burned to a crispand they go to like several
different caves and all of the bats are dead.
They've all been burned. And now this giant turtle
appears out of the water and they escaped into a cave and
this cave does have bats. So they're saved but obata shows
up and he's clearly possessed bythis this thing.
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And he's like, hey I really think I'd like to sleep really
close to those bats. So he walks in and he acts like
he's asleep until he could slip out and he goes to burn the cave
with gasoline, but Kudos spots him and obata, like just grabs
Kudo lifts them up and throws him with his new amoeba super
strength. Did he fucking he fucking eats
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this dude? It's yeah, pretty impressive.
And the amoeba starts talking through obata and he's just
like, Hey we're here to invade your planet.
Don't try to resist us. We've evolved so far that we
don't have. Any limbs.
So we need to like, kill all of you, take your body's so we can
live here and so Rico decides togo for and tries to attack him,
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but a lot, of course, just bodies them.
And then a new gun, a maze of, here's a new crab shows up, and
the amoeba says that it and comeaway bus Which the the turtle.
Yeah, is here and they're going to kill everybody.
I Echo starts trying to Appeal to whatever Humanities left and
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obata. And Obama does actually start
trying to fight him. He does start burning the bats
but eventually obata manages to unseal the cave by the fact that
the amoebas controlling him. And honestly probably what I
would think is the the hardest scene in this movie happens
because obata wanders away, the try to fight the amoebas
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influence and dr. Ermias like a man isn't just as
cells. He has a soul.
Good line, good line. Yeah, sure.
Yeah, I'll give it that way. Yeah.
So yeah, a lot of wanders away. And so, comma, y, bus and
kanima, is start fighting each other because they're going
crazy from the, from the bats waves, basically, and everybody
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moves towards this mountain watches, the fight, and
eventually the fight reaches this active volcano, that erupts
and engulfs them both. And everybody's like, well,
nothing can live in an active. Volcano that's been true so far.
Other than Rodin I was going to that.
Yeah I immediately was like whatabout Rodin?
What are you all talking? But they are essentially Dad.
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It's Godzilla fallen into a volcano yet because that
happened any point in the show era.
Godzilla's ass has been thrown to so many random places where
they're like, oh, well, he's in an iceberg or buried under the
sand or at the bottom of the sea.
I've been space. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, it was
just on the Or wherever, no planattacks, that's not the moon,
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but it's still like that's space.
Ya think they have the same atmosphere, sorry.
Anyway, nobody shows up right? And he knows he can't fight the
amoeba anymore. So he throws himself into the
lava. And honestly, in doing that, he
saved the world because if that amoeba had left him something
else, who knows what would have happened?
Yeah, so the villagers show up and a ship sorts.
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Coming closer because of all theeverything going on and Kudos.
Like I wonder if everybody on the ship will believe everything
that happened here and they kindof laugh about it and they wave
the ship a show. That's that's also the exact
moment I realized I was like wait a goddamn minute.
That's right, this whole thing has just happened on this one
ass Island that like this is a real bottle episode of a movie
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kind of Yeah, nothing about the situation like leaves the
island, except that they heard couple of months.
Who died on the ship. Yeah.
But like that dudes. Die all the time.
You know what I mean? That's in fact, it's something.
I can guarantee every dude will do at some point.
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Yeah, dudes. Also rot so, whoa, just saying,
yeah. Yeah, that's it.
It's like a slightly better. Like more, how do I want to
phrase this? It is not as abrupt as many
Honda endings are it was kind ofan ending.
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Yeah. Like this isn't this was not a
Honda and this this was an ending in the way that like
Godzilla had an ending, you know, like it does come quickly
but there's a wrap up, there is an arc, there is a cooling down,
you know. It just happens over the course
of a couple of minutes instead of, you know, okay, 30 seconds
drop the credits. Let's go, you know, We're
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closing up for the night, get the fuck out.
I when we talk about the ups anddowns of this movie, I will say
that the monsters are all too high for me.
Yeah, I like them on. Yeah.
Like I like to give Zora primarily the sequences work as
oars in the water like I like God, especially that first shot
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of gazzara like lateral breaching the water.
Yeah. Grabbing the dude.
Oh I mean great. Sequence, you know, I always
thought disorder is kind of a goofy monster, but having seen
this movie now I get it. Yeah, now it's a good scene.
And still every time I see somebody had eaten, I'm just
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like, wow, thinking about the fact that we watched the movies.
Reach that point and now it's just normal.
Yes, yes. It's not playing.
No quite to the same level of horror as it was when like a
beer at a to dude, right now, right?
Speaking of a,b RA, gani mace islike a really different.
I thought in my head all this time, gani mace is just lesser,
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abhira to me. All right, cuz I knew there were
two in the movie and it's another crab monster.
And I was like, well then this is just, you know, cannon fodder
but like can Amaze kind of I really like how different the
look and design is how differentit moves.
Like this is a very different creature and it goes at apeshit
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on some trees for no reason which I do respect, Danny May
said fuck trees is impressive that you know, the the bit where
its eyes get shot out as very like, wow.
Y'all really took advantage of kind of the biology of the crab
that it's got, these little weakpoints on these little stalks
that blown up to massive size, are kind of like glowing Legend
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of Zelda enemy weak points. Right.
But yeah. I like, I like the animes.
Um, come ebus. I didn't, you know?
Sure it's a big turtle, I guess.Okay, that monster in
particular. I knew two things about
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immediately because it's Nick could extend.
Yeah, I was like for one that isa contra reference, which I'm
making a joke. But yeah, because neither the 70
but yeah well yeah I know but I do remember the the boss.
Yeah but they're based off of a matamata turtles.
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Yeah. Which can do that.
So I was like that's neat. That's like not a normal Turtle.
Yeah. I thought it was interesting.
It isn't it doesn't do very much.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like threatening least extends its neck a couple times and
that's about it. Yeah.
Makes kind of a goofy squeaky sound.
You You know, I don't know, liketurtle noise.
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Come here. Kamila's shows up in one other
movie in the 2000s and it's justdead like, oh, it will appear in
a later movie in like one shot where they're like, oh yeah,
this thing washed up on shore. Something must have killed it
and it's just dead, come ebus. And it's a great redesign, you
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know, of a fucking monster that does not matter for shit.
But like it's a good suit, it's a good design.
As you know, it doesn't do much and a lot of the fight between
cannabis and getting mace is obscured but I did like them
falling into the volcano. I like the, you know, the
struggle and they're like tryingto hold on to each other and
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climb out and you know neither of them are really built for
that. So ghanima is being what it is.
You know, crabs, like the pole each other back into the bucket.
Yeah, it's like the crab bucket is one of my favorite metaphors
for. I will use it every time I have
the opportunity. I think.
I know why you would use? Yes, but yeah, because
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capitalism, right? And because we both came from
the same horrible. Retail hell in the early parts
of our of our semi adult lives. We're crab in a bucket on full
display. Mmm.
So we were kind of talking just before recording and like, I
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don't know how I feel about thismovie, right, because it's on
the one hand, there is a lot of craft in the movie, it does feel
the most in a long time, like a movie that Honda would have made
in like, the late. He's right up there along with
like at rogon and Rodan and Mothra and, and so on and so
(36:07):
forth. Like, it feels like one of that,
batch of movies that came late. I I said, there's no social and
political messaging, but like, what am I saying?
Like, like Honda straight up, make sure to make there be
comments about, you know, the Islanders having spite for the
Japanese because of, you know, the Japanese having a base there
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during the war. You know, there's this whole
thing about this Corporation, wanted to come in and sweep the
locals away in order to build a fucking Resort.
Like it's extremely political inthe same way that Mothra is, but
it doesn't feel like it gets thesame front-and-center status.
It feels like it's a little bit more set dressing.
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Yeah. Then the point this movie feels
Lovelace to me. It is, it is made with craft,
but it does not feel like there is heart in this movie.
It, I do not, I do not feel Honda's love for filmmaking in
the way that I have in. So many of his other movies,
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this feels even more like made to get the job done.
Then King Kong escapes. Yeah, and there's a great.
There's a lot going on behind the scenes that informs that.
I mean, I would say there's two major factors that probably
explain. This one is that eiji tsuburaya
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died, two days into production and and not at an age where it
should have happened at this wasnot like foreseen.
He was 68 years old again, he died in his sleep from a heart
attack that came on from like anass.
Asthma attack, he got in his sleep.
So I mean, it's like Honda e fukube and tsuburaya dream team
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was together for this movie. Two days.
In super-high, is fucking dead, you know?
And and you know, they were ableto bring in.
I don't remember the name of theguy.
He's not the the person that's been working with Jun fukuyama
on the B team, but they got another effects supervisor in to
help finish out the The movie and help, you know with, with
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set design and production designand the action sequences and
things like that. But like super, I is gone, you
know, Honda's one of his most frequent collaborators is just
gone into this project. The crew Wanted the movie
dedicated to tsuburaya and Touhou would not let them.
Which that'll kind of lead into part number two, unfortunately.
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But like, you know, that that's demoralizing to be working on
this movie to have, you know, certainly a friend in some
regard died that you're working with and then like have to
finish his project and and you know, no one's even able to
dedicate the movie to him, like they wanted to write.
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The the the second like part of this is the Japanese film
industry was in a very bad spot.The film like Japan's film
industry was going through and was on the tail end of a crash
at this point and Toho as a likeUnion like Studio, where like
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you, you got your contract with them and you had consistent work
at Touhou, right? It's right.
Right. This is still very much the old
model of I work. I'm an actor, I work for a
Touhou. Touhou puts me on these movies.
Instead of everybody being free,agents and contractors and
jumping all over the place. You know, the way we see things
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in modern Hollywood, until who had managed to push it off, as
much as possible. Touhou still had some money to
put into this movie, but during the process of, and after this
movie, Touhou would basically The, abandon the classic, like
Studio format, they broke up theUnion's.
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They like this. This is, you know, people
working inside Touhou had to be looking on with horror, as, you
know, famously Union Studio thathad for so long managed to hold
off. You know, against the economic
pressures of the moment, right? Kind of collapsed under a lack
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of money, you know? And that ended up, you know,
reforming into something. That was much worse for workers.
That was much more, you know, I mean it's a story as old as
fucking time itself, right? We've got to make cutbacks.
So you know, no more. You know now, everybody's
independent contractor is now, you know, He is directly
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employed. Nobody gets benefits shit like
that. So Honda left Touhou after this
movie and Honda, very nearly never directed another movie.
After this, Honda is sucks to goout on.
Yes, I know, thankfully Honda does, there is a sweet spot that
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will come in several years, where Honda gets the opportunity
to rewrite his ending and A lot of ways but yeah this is a very
bitter parting on Honda's part and on you know, toe hose part
and I'm sure Honda wasn't well. Of course Honda wasn't the only
person they broke up the fuckingUnion's, right?
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But Honda Honda actually would leave to go work for tsuburaya
Productions and Honda directed alot of Television, like for
Ultraman and other similar showsunder tsuburaya Productions.
So like there's kind of something Bittersweet there,
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right? Honda was working with
tsuburaya, super iodized, Touhouis falling apart and Honda goes
to work for the company that tsuburaya founded, you know, to
go work in television and leave the big screen because it's
presumably the only place that feels like a working home for
him at this point. And I think just a lot of that,
(42:33):
like, This movie is exceedingly.Well put together.
But man, you can see the you canfeel the lack of passion in this
movie. I really do feel like that.
Yeah. I mean I think if Touhou had let
him dedicate the movie to tsuburaya that adds insult to
(42:56):
injury, right? Right.
It sure didn't fucking. He could have done that.
I bet he would have been he would push really hard on this
movie. Yeah, I think it would it would
be might have pushed harder. I think that he might have had
more heart in it, because it's like, I don't think that Honda
does not strike me, everything I've read and everything we've
seen. Hannah does not strike me as the
type to half-ass, anything, you know, Honda's very famous for
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getting his movies in like, on budget on time, like no matter
what, he's a stable, Workhorse director, but even so there's
clearly a lot of love for the Craft.
And he wants to put as much as he can into everything he's
working on. And yeah, that's I think, what
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made this so hard for me to watch?
Was it felt Lovelace in a way that Honda's movies have not
before. And and it's hard because it's
again, it's also the movie that feels the most like something he
would have made in the late 50s.Yeah.
So it's just that we've seen himdevelop since the yeah.
(44:05):
Yeah, you know you know and granted he's developed in a way
that is also required him to make movies for a larger like
more mass audience and kind of leave some of his more overt
political messaging behind in a way that I feel like on paper in
the script this was almost You know, a great return to
(44:29):
tradition for him. And instead it kind of gotten
made by assembly line, you know,and they made a good, but, to a
certain extent, it was okay. This is going to be it and I'm
out of here, you know, you can nobody can nobody can put in
full effort when you've given your two weeks, notice, you know
(44:50):
what I mean, right? So, and whether, or not, he knew
about what Was going to happen. Like people had to know, people
had to, to feel that things werenot headed in the right
direction. So, you know, it's sad, it's
sad. There's there's no, it is a an
(45:14):
interesting movie that I like a lot of parts of, but it is very
difficult to separate that from what I know about this movie
now, and what I know about, The moment that this movie was made
in. So, you know, it's really the
end of an era. Yeah, I'm bummed now.
(45:38):
I'm sorry. We should.
We should wrap. Yeah.
I mean, like, what else is thereto say?
We talked about the social mediamessaging, like, the monsters
are cool. You know, it's just, this is,
this is not a good time, and this sixth does explain.
Why? I'm trying to think of a good
(46:00):
way to put this like the future of Godzilla gets a little weird
for a while. The next movie we're doing
Godzilla versus The Smog Monsteris the only movie direct.
The only Godzilla movie directedby yoshimitsu Bono.
It is Yoshi made Subhan o, right.
Please don't, let me have just made up.
(46:21):
This dude's fucking name. It is yoshimitsu Bono.
Thank God. It's like only the second movie
that Bono ever directed period and he like ba node does not
have a lot of credits. So I don't know where this dude
(46:42):
came from but it almost kind of feels like we need a
motherfucker to make a Godzilla movie now and we got them.
We got this dude. He's done some assistant
directing on some stuff, you know, fuck it.
He's what you know June Phuket is not available.
Let's get this guy. And then the next several
Godzilla movies will be June fuka de, you know.
(47:04):
So it's clearly a period of someturmoil for Touhou as well, but
we're here. I didn't expect to hit this
place, right? Like like I think we both had to
know coming into season two thatwe were going to hit a bad spot.
(47:28):
I thought it would be later. I thought it would be later.
I thought it would be prime. It would just be like the death
of themes, right? That it would be the, you know,
we have completely given up on making anything.
That means anything and we are going to make these soulless,
you know, Blockbusters and they'll be fun, but nobody has
(47:49):
passion for them. I was expecting that I was not
expecting, full-blown tragedy toderail this franchise where it
is. And it really puts into
perspective, toe hose kind of rush to put out, you know, one
of these fuckers every year, no matter what.
Because, let me look at the nextfew.
(48:10):
I mean, yeah, we've got a Godzilla movie a year for five
years straight. Just getting churned out.
Yeah, you know, and and I think we're going to see the quality
suffer somewhat and you know, nowonder the series gets put On
Ice in the mid-70s. Yeah, yeah.
(48:33):
I think I've rambled myself out.I don't know if you've got
anything else to say about this movie or the moment if you like.
I don't know. I feel like this is a story I've
heard before. Yeah.
You know like company screwing everybody over a dear friend
dying and then like this cultural Cornerstone just kind
(48:53):
of shattering under the weight of all that and that just sucks.
Yeah. This isn't the system we should
live. No, it's not good.
It's not good. And you know Honda's ass was
thinking the same thing. So, yeah, that's what we got,
folks. I think I think that's a wrap on
this episode. Fuck.
(49:15):
You know, the outro. Thank you so much for joining us
on our journey. Yada yada.
God, I'm looking forward to the next couple of shows, because at
least they're going to be goofy as hell.
You know, and I need that. I need the goofy at this point.
Yeah, it'll be nice. Yeah.
Yeah you can follow us on Twitter for more of our
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I'm at Derby City. Derek.
I'm at the Cerro complex. That's V is C ero complex-2.
That's right. Because this is an even-numbered
episode so you've got to spell it.
Yeah. Well it's an odd numbers
episode. So I thought last time was 21
(49:59):
and this is 22. I was doing it off of the season
the season 2 episode 9. That makes sense because I
didn't have sowed one. Yeah.
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So they head back into the cave,hoping to get some bats so that
they can basically use the bats for defense.
Hello. I thought they were like, okay,
we need to create a Sonic weaponthat will drive them off and
they were like no we need bats. We just need regular bats.
(00:26):
Hello everyone and welcome to Castle Bravo.
A Godzilla versus retrospective I'm Derek and I'm Charlotte and
weird two siblings here to examine the history of the
Godzilla franchise one movie at a time.
Charlotte. Hey, how you doing today?
Doing? All right.
Doing all right Hyundai? Yeah, it's one of those Sunday's
is you put it. You like looked up and it was
(00:47):
12:45 like getting close to timeto record.
That does feel like how today isgone so far.
I feel like it's Already over even though it's one that's that
is the fault of capitalism because we were like the
Twilight of a Sunday, is the worst feeling if you have a
Monday through Friday job, because it's like, well, my time
(01:07):
away from work is almost over. Yeah.
All of the stuff that I didn't get done this weekend because I
was recovering from the work week.
Yeah. Yeah it's hell but at least it's
relatively pretty out today compared to how it's been.
It's been bitter cold and it's like Or 60 out there right now.
Yeah so that's that's good for in early February.
(01:29):
That only means that the usual annual flooding of the city must
be coming in the next week or two.
True swear to God every FebruaryLouisville, just goes under
water for a couple days but it is what it is.
Yeah, so so far on Castle Bravo.Man, this is, this is a weird
(01:52):
in. This is a weird movie to talk
about. About me.
And you were kind of mentioning before hand that like neither of
us has a good like beat on how we feel about this movie.
Yeah. So too.
Yeah, today's movie is called space amoeba.
It's also known in America as yog monster from space.
(02:12):
That was what it was originally yah, United States yog, monster
from space. And that's the name that it got
here in America because I guess yog was going to be the name for
the The space bacteria or whatever?
I don't know, we didn't watch the dub.
We're done with the Cubs. Godzilla's Revenge has made that
a permanent. We're sticking.
Hardcore to it. The sun.
(02:34):
Thank God. They're all like easily
available. Good quality copies of every
movie from here on cuz I can't fucking do that again.
But like the history of Castle Bravo leading up to.
This point is a weird one because the first season Aside
from the second Godzilla movie was almost entirely sure, o
(02:54):
Honda and it was Honda 100% on his bullshit, you know, making
just Banger after Banger after Banger of cool, Sci-Fi movies
with a lot of cool, like ideas and, and statements put into
them and eventually we had to start getting the the crossover
stuff to make bigger and bigger Blockbusters.
(03:15):
You know, we got King Kong vs. Godzilla Mothra vs.
Godzilla Ghidorah, the three-headed monster And
eventually was like okay well here's where we're at.
Is this weird middle point of these movies are kind of losing
their themes and losing their social commentary but Honda's
make and Banger fucking movies, right?
So it's okay because you can still feel the passion that he
(03:39):
has for all of all of the moviesthat he's making.
Even when he even when he's making family movies, he's
having a blast there funny, you know, there's a ton of good
energy in them. We got To season two of Castle,
Bravo, and Honda has been takingmore of a backseat for the most
part. 2, June fuka, you know, who got his run on the Godzilla
(04:02):
movies so far. And we've been, we've been
having a lot of Godzilla Island Adventures until we had Destroy
All Monsters, which was our big return to the Alien Invasion
formula. And up to this point, there's
been a ton of non Godzilla movies that have become part of
(04:23):
Godzilla retroactively, or will end up becoming part of Godzilla
retroactively, like gorath was intended to be part of Destroy
All Monsters, it isn't yet. It's going to get referenced in
a future Godzilla movie. You know, stuff like that, this
movie space amoeba. Takes place in kind of a pivotal
(04:45):
point in Honda's. Career in Touhou is a film
studio and it's also the last non Godzilla movie to get made
to get connected into Godzilla in every, every non Godzilla
movie that connects into Godzilla ends up being made by
(05:06):
ishiro Honda, which kind of helps cement that like, there's
no way to separate Godzilla the character the Sighs from Honda
as a director, will get a littlemore into what was going on
behind the scenes, this movie later because there's a lot
going on that I think blood through into the film itself
(05:29):
accidentally. But for now Charlotte why don't
you tell us what happens in space amoeba.
All right? So the intro to this movie was
actually pretty interesting because it just says like
Flashes of different monsters onthe screen.
Yeah. Oh, it's a great intro.
You're like, wow, look at all these weird crazy creature.
(05:50):
Like, I know I'm in for some wild shit, right?
And it has their name in Japanese and on the front.
So I was like, is this actually the name of the movie at first?
I think it's his billing them like actors.
Yeah, it was. I mean, there is a longer
version of the title of the movie that I saw that.
The Japanese had all the movie that did include all the
(06:12):
monster's name. Mm.
Yeah. Well, except by now, we're going
by what are often much shorter and much more to the point
International titles. So right except Germany,
probably, right, because this isprobably Frankenstein's
Menagerie. You know?
The the zoo of outer space or some shit in Germany.
(06:32):
Okay. So plot begins with Healy 07
this unmanned probe and it's being launched to explore.
Jupiter. But on the way there, fairly
quickly actually, this Blue Mistin space climbs into the probe,
and then basically Pilots the probe back to Earth.
(06:54):
And so back on Earth, Kudo who'sour main guy?
Basically, he's a photographer, he's reading a newspaper aboard,
the plane. And the newspaper says, The
Helio 7 has disappeared. And that's, of course, strange
because it's an unmanned probe. It should be going.
Like, one way out, one way back and that's it.
It but basically On Cue, he looks out the window and there's
(07:16):
Helio 7 just like parachuting down into the ocean so he gets
back to his Publishers office and he's like hey I just saw the
unmanned probe fall back to Earth and nobody believes him
because they're like that doesn't make any sense.
Know you didn't? Yes, was be out there for years.
It's only been a couple of months right?
(07:38):
And he superintend. He's like I could go under water
and get some really good pictures of this.
And his boss is like, no, actually you're going to go to
Brazil or you're going to lose your job and you know, that's
not that's not what he wanted tohear.
So he leaves the building, what he wanted to hear, Sony wanted
to hear. So this this woman who names I
(08:02):
Echo appears and asks him to take pictures of an island for
her. And this island is called cell
Geo Island. And so she takes her back to
where she works. And it's all for the sake of
this development company. They want to get pictures of the
island to make the island look attractive.
So people will want to live there.
(08:23):
And of course, they're making these statements are like this.
It'll be good development. Will be good for that Island,
including the people that already live there.
So they're just going to like, bulldoze these this Village I
guess. Yeah, I mean that's definitely
we're familiar with Honda this point that's capitalists speak
for we are going to do a small genocide, right?
(08:44):
So dr. MIA who Kudos worked for or
worked with before? He's a biologist he enters the
room and he's actually going to the island to study life there
because he believes there are monsters on the island.
And as it turns out the spot that Kudo thought that the
(09:05):
Helios 7 went down is the exact same spot that it's like right
off the coast of sell Geo Island.
So it's in his best interest to just go.
So now we cut to sell Geo Islandand these two men have decided
they're going to go fishing and it's clear that they're not like
from the island because everybody on the island is like,
(09:25):
don't go there, we have perfectly good reasons, you
shouldn't fish here. Anyway, I'm sure it's just
Superstition, so they go out there.
They start fishing in the water is like, really weirdly cold.
And then, all of a sudden, this blue light appears the same blue
light that was in space in the water.
And this giant cuttlefish emerges and just grabs one of
(09:47):
the men and just eat some. I fucking love this sequence.
I I'm like so I've never seen this movie before.
Okay and I'm familiar. Familiar with the monsters from
it. It gives Aura is famously in
that, not very good. NES Godzilla game.
That has the Creepypasta about it.
(10:08):
Camee best will show up in a future Godzilla movie.
It's like a cameo. Like, so I'm familiar with them,
but I hadn't seen them in context in the movie and gazzara
the, the cuddle fish or squid, or whatever it is, is really
kind of upsetting looking as it like a breeze.
(10:28):
Is the water with its glowing orange eyes, you know, just
above the surface of the water as the tentacles come out.
It's yeah, it's a pretty good effect and it has that that like
undersea creature look in its eyes were, it's not really
looking at anything. Yes, it's just kind of staring
awful, it does things. So, yeah, one of the guys just
(10:51):
get picked up off the ground andeaten now, the other man runs
away to try to go, tell the village what he saw in the
villagers are like we should. Never have angered gives Aura.
So now, who do I Echo and dr. Mia.
They're all on this ship going to the island.
Now, this fourth guy shows up. His name is obata, he's an
anthropologist and he sits down,and this is like, immediately
(11:15):
the sleaziest man you've ever seen.
But he sits down with him, and he introduces himself, he's
like, yeah, I'm going to the same island, you are.
Isn't that funny, huh? Honey.
Ha ha, ha dr. Mia shows up to tell everybody
about what happened on the island with his Aura because
like somebody died and they cover the fact that the Island
(11:36):
used to actually have like a Japanese Garrison on it during
the war. So everybody there speaks
Japanese so they can just circumvent that whole issue.
Yeah, yeah. So they get to the island and
their, their Guide to the islandnamed Rico runs off to find the
others. And right before he leaves, he's
like, The Japanese are what makeis Aura.
So mad the people on the island,don't actually like the
(11:59):
Japanese. Yeah, they make that pretty
clear in the movie which like again, like props to Honda, this
is kind of his style like he's kind of boldly willing to be
like, hey, we were, we were bad guys in the war.
Y'all know that right, right? So Obama has basically invited
himself along and everybody's saying, well we hope to see
(12:22):
everything on the island in a week but it's a lot.
To see in a week, Rico returns with mr.
Yokoyama, who it was a little unclear to me, I think he like
owns The Firm that is there, buthe's basically an important guy
for them to be reporting to and they show up in a jeep to pick
everybody up. And they had to a nearby cave
(12:45):
and the blue light appears in the cave, and the water rises
and lowers. And the guy that was eaten
earlier, his watch is on the cave floor.
And since the, since Rico is with them, like he knew that guy
and he's like, oh, that's that guys watched.
So yokoyama, flees with Rico in the Jeep to pack up because he's
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like, this is this freaking me out?
I'm gonna leave, I'm gonna warn Japan, there's a giant monster
on this island. And right, well as he's doing
that because Zora just gets out of the water and walks onto the
island, which honestly is not something I expected that thing
to be. Yeah.
It's a little goofy looking because it's just an opera.
Like what they've done is they've kind of hidden the
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actors legs by creating like a skirt of octopus legs and
tentacles like around it. And then the two that are kind
of like used like arms, and it kind of hides the shuffling of
the actors feet as he moves, it's not great.
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Like it. Well, I'd say it's not perfect,
but But like, I was specificallylooking for like, how goofy is
this gonna look? It's not bad.
It's surprisingly solid work. Yeah.
I mean, like, I kept noticing that like, two of the legs were
the stabilizing legs. Yes.
Liam barely moved compared to the other ones and, you know,
but it didn't look that bad. It was, it was more noticeable
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that I'm used to. But yeah, so is or gets out of
the water and basically, just belines directly to Yokohama and
Rico in this house. Ow.
And it takes yokoyama and eats them, but at least Rico on the
ground because they get scared off by bats like these bats like
form up above it and deserve screeching at until it runs
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away. So the others get out of the
cave and their gods lunch time. I'm going to go eat but they
find that the Jeep is racked andYahoo yama's.
Little Hut is destroyed and Rico's.
She's catatonic on the ground. And Rico's body has frostbite
from just being touched by gazzara earlier.
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You literally just we're like the tentacle suckers touched
him. Yeah obata.
Of course thinks this is all just a big prank 2 drive them
off because they don't want, youknow, development on their
Island which they be valid to doif that was the case.
But he in the in the rubble finds plans for like an
underwater hotel and he like Pockets them.
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Yeah. So Rico's partner.
She shows up and tries to consult them and says that she
knows where a doctor is. So they all had into the village
to try to get a doctor for Rico and they're not welcomed very
warmly, the shaman curses them calls them Devils, but they do
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manage to get inside and start treatment for Rico.
Kudo. Honestly is like this monster is
really cool. I want to take pictures of it.
The giant ice cuttlefish up and just walk in the fucking Fuck
around. Yeah, I mean I want to take
pictures of it too, but this conversation leads obata to be
like. Yeah, by the way, I'm a company
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spy. I'm obviously a company spy.
Yeah. So to do and dr.
Mia go into the water to take pictures of Helios 7, which they
do find, they get pictures of pretty quickly, but because or
appears on their way back and starts trying to grab them as
they struggle with their harpoons, but a pod of dolphins,
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dolphins. A lot of dolphins swim through,
it's been a hard day. It has The Pod swims through and
gazzara is forced to let them gobecause the pot is like
screaming at them but they managed to get back ashore but
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because Aura starts heading backInland after them and obata
standing there. Like, you know, I think I'd
really like to put this giant cuttlefish in a show of it was
real but he looks up and gives or has like looking down at the
village and he's like, oh yeah because it was real good news,
buddy. So the shaman like tries to
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appease gazzara and gives or awhile it's like flailing around
actually get set on fire just toshow that its weak to fire.
Those things are weak to fire. It fucking hurts true.
But I mean this thing being you'd like an alien cuttlefish
that might have been a question somebody had.
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Um so doctor I have a question for you will you bring that up
kind of because it's it's No, I'm going to wait until later,
actually. Okay, well later point to bring
this up. Okay, continue.
I'm sorry. No, you're fine, dr.
Mia and Kudo meet up with the survivors and they looked down
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at the village and then trying to discuss with the Dual beca
Zora. And then some men just show up
with guns and gasoline and they're like, all right we're
just going to burn it so who do and dr.
Mia start firing on Goods or at a Laura into a gas.
Strap, which works angles or is caught on fire and they runs
away and he just slams face-first into the ocean.
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Yeah, yeah. It's is, is not doing good.
Yeah, so the same blue light from earlier emerges from it and
goes off somewhere. Yeah, the the glow leaves it.
Hmm. So now, I will bring up the
thing I was going to say, do we think is Aura was actually a
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pre-existing monster or do you think it's Eli?
If that was mutated because I think the idea behind some of
the later monsters to appear as that they are regular animals
that were mutated but gazzara seems a little more special than
they are. So dr.
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MIA later on basically names every animal that's mutated yeah
like what the real-world equivalent would be.
My issue with that explanation that they did.
It was just a cuttlefish that was made big is later on a human
gets overtaken by it and they don't change.
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Yeah. It will in like you know, maybe
people are considered different rate.
What's weird for me is that the the other two monsters are very
like showa style mundane giant animals and gazzara has fucking
I Powers right? Which I mean it could just be
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the space amoeba like mutating it further.
It's also a little different because the people on the island
like have this, you know, God orMonster or whatever that they
know of called gazzara. And it's like, okay.
Is this a thing that's been around in some form that was
mutated? Or are they, is it, a Godzilla
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sort of situation where the Islanders were projecting?
Like their beliefs and myths on to a new thing.
I thought that it was the latter.
Yeah, I thought that that's, that's kind of what I think is
my headset like just turned off since you're good.
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But anyway, that's kind of what I'm thinking.
Is that? It's the latter?
Yeah, but Yeah. I mean, I I have no reason to
think that if they offer the explanation of these are normal
monsters that were made huge. I have no reason to be like,
well, I don't think that's true.Yeah.
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You know what I mean? That's, that's a good point.
Honda doesn't really like play with the idea that like his, his
scientists often know, things they shouldn't sometimes right?
Because they're just not good atscience.
It's not that his scientists make a bunch of unrealistic
Proclamations. So right?
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Good point. So the gang finds the old
ammunition bunker and it has a ton of gasoline in it and
they're based like, well, if it ever comes back, we're going to
be okay. But doctor me is not sure
because he's not convinced that that was just some random
cuddlefish. Meanwhile, obata is like, man, I
got to get out of here so he's like your call did everything.
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Yeah. So they line the island with
with centuries. People holding Spears basically
and Mike Fiers that they've LED waiting to see if his Aura comes
back. So I Echo actually is like I
think dr. Mia.
I think you might know something, but dr.
Mia basically is like I don't know anything.
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I'm scared, I don't wanna be here.
So the men from the the ammo depot bring up this this machine
gun emplacement from the war andit accidentally goes off and
almost kills obata on the raft. That he is trying to get away on
but then this huge wave comes upwhich almost kills him again
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immediately after because I think he might be like, God's
least favorite Anthropologist. So this red light appears in the
water and this huge crab comes up, it's called ghanem has and
so they try to fire at it but its armor is too strong for
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normal rounds. So Please the shoreline but
Kudo, I don't know what experience this man had before
this. But he like Snipes out.
One of God. Oh my God.
Yeah, if he blows the eye out, it's crazy.
And you like get a shot of the like deflated.
I at the end of the stalk linking like red paint.
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It's like oh wow. Yeah.
And he gets I Echo to a safe spot and then he just shoots out
the other eye. Fuck this crab, In particular to
be like. So why didn't they do this shit
to get Zora? I don't know.
I mean he didn't have the gun already.
Well, that's true. Fuck the crabs eyes in
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particular. Yeah, so the crab now,
completely blind falls down the hill that they're on onto a huge
stack of like gasoline canistersthat they'd set up just in case.
And I hate when I do that, I hate when I fall down the hill
directly onto the giant stack ofgasoline canisters, that
somebody is placed So key to do climbs up the side of the
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mountain with I goes help because he's like dangling off
the edge and he just shoots the canisters a few times and blows
up Panama's, that's it for grandmas.
And luckily for everyone, obata is still alive.
Despite the fact that his raft was shot and he was launched out
of the ocean. But he walks up and he finds the
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crab like was left of the crab, and the blue light leaves the
crab and surrounds his body, andhe collapses in this voice
speaks out to him. And it tells him that they have
taken control of his body and they intend to conquer Earth
with him. So meanwhile, this is when dr.
Me is like, because or has a cuttlefish got him as a rubble
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crab. And clearly this thing from
space showed up, made them big and made it a met the man.
Attack us, whatever it is I guess it can pass through metal.
So Kudo being our main guy is just determined to destroy this
thing before it gets any further.
And I cause like, we don't even know how we're going to warn
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everybody in the dr. Mia is like, yeah, we have to
figure out how we're going to fight it.
We have to stop it here basically.
Yeah. Sake appears with Rico who still
catatonic and it's like, I'm going to marry him.
Which school during the wedding Rico who has like this, this
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huge fear of light because of the attack that he suffered who
do like takes a picture of him with a flash on and it scares
him and he runs away and he snaps out of it.
Basically, because of the brightlight, the students, this dude's
mental health is really I mean from very early in the movie,
this dude is not Doing well and I think like we can I joke about
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it but like this is maybe some of the best portrayal of like a
person who has had to deal with a giant monster up close and
their entire worldview is just fucked.
Yeah like he's traumatized this man is barely staying like on
the ground, right? But he does manage to get to the
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point where you can like talk again and he explains everybody
that the only reason he survivedHis encounter was because the
bat showed up and then dr. Mia.
Remembers that the Dolphins werealso able to drive it off using
like ultrasonic waves. So he determines that.
The creatures weakness is probably ultrasonic sound
basically, so they head back into the cave, hoping to get
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some bats so that they can basically use the bats for
defense. Hello.
I thought they were like, okay, we need to create a Sonic weapon
that will drive them off when they were like no we need bats.
We just need regular bats. Yeah, go find me some were
fucking bats. Go into that.
We Haver. But they get there and all the
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bats have been burned to a crispand they go to like several
different caves and all of the bats are dead.
They've all been burned. And now this giant turtle
appears out of the water and they escaped into a cave and
this cave does have bats. So they're saved but obata shows
up and he's clearly possessed bythis this thing.
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And he's like, hey I really think I'd like to sleep really
close to those bats. So he walks in and he acts like
he's asleep until he could slip out and he goes to burn the cave
with gasoline, but Kudos spots him and obata, like just grabs
Kudo lifts them up and throws him with his new amoeba super
strength. Did he fucking he fucking eats
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this dude? It's yeah, pretty impressive.
And the amoeba starts talking through obata and he's just
like, Hey we're here to invade your planet.
Don't try to resist us. We've evolved so far that we
don't have. Any limbs.
So we need to like, kill all of you, take your body's so we can
live here and so Rico decides togo for and tries to attack him,
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but a lot, of course, just bodies them.
And then a new gun, a maze of, here's a new crab shows up, and
the amoeba says that it and comeaway bus Which the the turtle.
Yeah, is here and they're going to kill everybody.
I Echo starts trying to Appeal to whatever Humanities left and
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obata. And Obama does actually start
trying to fight him. He does start burning the bats
but eventually obata manages to unseal the cave by the fact that
the amoebas controlling him. And honestly probably what I
would think is the the hardest scene in this movie happens
because obata wanders away, the try to fight the amoebas
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influence and dr. Ermias like a man isn't just as
cells. He has a soul.
Good line, good line. Yeah, sure.
Yeah, I'll give it that way. Yeah.
So yeah, a lot of wanders away. And so, comma, y, bus and
kanima, is start fighting each other because they're going
crazy from the, from the bats waves, basically, and everybody
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moves towards this mountain watches, the fight, and
eventually the fight reaches this active volcano, that erupts
and engulfs them both. And everybody's like, well,
nothing can live in an active. Volcano that's been true so far.
Other than Rodin I was going to that.
Yeah I immediately was like whatabout Rodin?
What are you all talking? But they are essentially Dad.
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It's Godzilla fallen into a volcano yet because that
happened any point in the show era.
Godzilla's ass has been thrown to so many random places where
they're like, oh, well, he's in an iceberg or buried under the
sand or at the bottom of the sea.
I've been space. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, it was
just on the Or wherever, no planattacks, that's not the moon,
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but it's still like that's space.
Ya think they have the same atmosphere, sorry.
Anyway, nobody shows up right? And he knows he can't fight the
amoeba anymore. So he throws himself into the
lava. And honestly, in doing that, he
saved the world because if that amoeba had left him something
else, who knows what would have happened?
Yeah, so the villagers show up and a ship sorts.
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Coming closer because of all theeverything going on and Kudos.
Like I wonder if everybody on the ship will believe everything
that happened here and they kindof laugh about it and they wave
the ship a show. That's that's also the exact
moment I realized I was like wait a goddamn minute.
That's right, this whole thing has just happened on this one
ass Island that like this is a real bottle episode of a movie
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kind of Yeah, nothing about the situation like leaves the
island, except that they heard couple of months.
Who died on the ship. Yeah.
But like that dudes. Die all the time.
You know what I mean? That's in fact, it's something.
I can guarantee every dude will do at some point.
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Yeah, dudes. Also rot so, whoa, just saying,
yeah. Yeah, that's it.
It's like a slightly better. Like more, how do I want to
phrase this? It is not as abrupt as many
Honda endings are it was kind ofan ending.
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Yeah. Like this isn't this was not a
Honda and this this was an ending in the way that like
Godzilla had an ending, you know, like it does come quickly
but there's a wrap up, there is an arc, there is a cooling down,
you know. It just happens over the course
of a couple of minutes instead of, you know, okay, 30 seconds
drop the credits. Let's go, you know, We're
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closing up for the night, get the fuck out.
I when we talk about the ups anddowns of this movie, I will say
that the monsters are all too high for me.
Yeah, I like them on. Yeah.
Like I like to give Zora primarily the sequences work as
oars in the water like I like God, especially that first shot
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of gazzara like lateral breaching the water.
Yeah. Grabbing the dude.
Oh I mean great. Sequence, you know, I always
thought disorder is kind of a goofy monster, but having seen
this movie now I get it. Yeah, now it's a good scene.
And still every time I see somebody had eaten, I'm just
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like, wow, thinking about the fact that we watched the movies.
Reach that point and now it's just normal.
Yes, yes. It's not playing.
No quite to the same level of horror as it was when like a
beer at a to dude, right now, right?
Speaking of a,b RA, gani mace islike a really different.
I thought in my head all this time, gani mace is just lesser,
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abhira to me. All right, cuz I knew there were
two in the movie and it's another crab monster.
And I was like, well then this is just, you know, cannon fodder
but like can Amaze kind of I really like how different the
look and design is how differentit moves.
Like this is a very different creature and it goes at apeshit
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on some trees for no reason which I do respect, Danny May
said fuck trees is impressive that you know, the the bit where
its eyes get shot out as very like, wow.
Y'all really took advantage of kind of the biology of the crab
that it's got, these little weakpoints on these little stalks
that blown up to massive size, are kind of like glowing Legend
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of Zelda enemy weak points. Right.
But yeah. I like, I like the animes.
Um, come ebus. I didn't, you know?
Sure it's a big turtle, I guess.Okay, that monster in
particular. I knew two things about
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immediately because it's Nick could extend.
Yeah, I was like for one that isa contra reference, which I'm
making a joke. But yeah, because neither the 70
but yeah well yeah I know but I do remember the the boss.
Yeah but they're based off of a matamata turtles.
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Yeah. Which can do that.
So I was like that's neat. That's like not a normal Turtle.
Yeah. I thought it was interesting.
It isn't it doesn't do very much.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like threatening least extends its neck a couple times and
that's about it. Yeah.
Makes kind of a goofy squeaky sound.
You You know, I don't know, liketurtle noise.
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Come here. Kamila's shows up in one other
movie in the 2000s and it's justdead like, oh, it will appear in
a later movie in like one shot where they're like, oh yeah,
this thing washed up on shore. Something must have killed it
and it's just dead, come ebus. And it's a great redesign, you
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know, of a fucking monster that does not matter for shit.
But like it's a good suit, it's a good design.
As you know, it doesn't do much and a lot of the fight between
cannabis and getting mace is obscured but I did like them
falling into the volcano. I like the, you know, the
struggle and they're like tryingto hold on to each other and
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climb out and you know neither of them are really built for
that. So ghanima is being what it is.
You know, crabs, like the pole each other back into the bucket.
Yeah, it's like the crab bucket is one of my favorite metaphors
for. I will use it every time I have
the opportunity. I think.
I know why you would use? Yes, but yeah, because
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capitalism, right? And because we both came from
the same horrible. Retail hell in the early parts
of our of our semi adult lives. We're crab in a bucket on full
display. Mmm.
So we were kind of talking just before recording and like, I
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don't know how I feel about thismovie, right, because it's on
the one hand, there is a lot of craft in the movie, it does feel
the most in a long time, like a movie that Honda would have made
in like, the late. He's right up there along with
like at rogon and Rodan and Mothra and, and so on and so
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forth. Like, it feels like one of that,
batch of movies that came late. I I said, there's no social and
political messaging, but like, what am I saying?
Like, like Honda straight up, make sure to make there be
comments about, you know, the Islanders having spite for the
Japanese because of, you know, the Japanese having a base there
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during the war. You know, there's this whole
thing about this Corporation, wanted to come in and sweep the
locals away in order to build a fucking Resort.
Like it's extremely political inthe same way that Mothra is, but
it doesn't feel like it gets thesame front-and-center status.
It feels like it's a little bit more set dressing.
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Yeah. Then the point this movie feels
Lovelace to me. It is, it is made with craft,
but it does not feel like there is heart in this movie.
It, I do not, I do not feel Honda's love for filmmaking in
the way that I have in. So many of his other movies,
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this feels even more like made to get the job done.
Then King Kong escapes. Yeah, and there's a great.
There's a lot going on behind the scenes that informs that.
I mean, I would say there's two major factors that probably
explain. This one is that eiji tsuburaya
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died, two days into production and and not at an age where it
should have happened at this wasnot like foreseen.
He was 68 years old again, he died in his sleep from a heart
attack that came on from like anass.
Asthma attack, he got in his sleep.
So I mean, it's like Honda e fukube and tsuburaya dream team
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was together for this movie. Two days.
In super-high, is fucking dead, you know?
And and you know, they were ableto bring in.
I don't remember the name of theguy.
He's not the the person that's been working with Jun fukuyama
on the B team, but they got another effects supervisor in to
help finish out the The movie and help, you know with, with
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set design and production designand the action sequences and
things like that. But like super, I is gone, you
know, Honda's one of his most frequent collaborators is just
gone into this project. The crew Wanted the movie
dedicated to tsuburaya and Touhou would not let them.
Which that'll kind of lead into part number two, unfortunately.
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But like, you know, that that's demoralizing to be working on
this movie to have, you know, certainly a friend in some
regard died that you're working with and then like have to
finish his project and and you know, no one's even able to
dedicate the movie to him, like they wanted to write.
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The the the second like part of this is the Japanese film
industry was in a very bad spot.The film like Japan's film
industry was going through and was on the tail end of a crash
at this point and Toho as a likeUnion like Studio, where like
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you, you got your contract with them and you had consistent work
at Touhou, right? It's right.
Right. This is still very much the old
model of I work. I'm an actor, I work for a
Touhou. Touhou puts me on these movies.
Instead of everybody being free,agents and contractors and
jumping all over the place. You know, the way we see things
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in modern Hollywood, until who had managed to push it off, as
much as possible. Touhou still had some money to
put into this movie, but during the process of, and after this
movie, Touhou would basically The, abandon the classic, like
Studio format, they broke up theUnion's.
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They like this. This is, you know, people
working inside Touhou had to be looking on with horror, as, you
know, famously Union Studio thathad for so long managed to hold
off. You know, against the economic
pressures of the moment, right? Kind of collapsed under a lack
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of money, you know? And that ended up, you know,
reforming into something. That was much worse for workers.
That was much more, you know, I mean it's a story as old as
fucking time itself, right? We've got to make cutbacks.
So you know, no more. You know now, everybody's
independent contractor is now, you know, He is directly
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employed. Nobody gets benefits shit like
that. So Honda left Touhou after this
movie and Honda, very nearly never directed another movie.
After this, Honda is sucks to goout on.
Yes, I know, thankfully Honda does, there is a sweet spot that
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will come in several years, where Honda gets the opportunity
to rewrite his ending and A lot of ways but yeah this is a very
bitter parting on Honda's part and on you know, toe hose part
and I'm sure Honda wasn't well. Of course Honda wasn't the only
person they broke up the fuckingUnion's, right?
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But Honda Honda actually would leave to go work for tsuburaya
Productions and Honda directed alot of Television, like for
Ultraman and other similar showsunder tsuburaya Productions.
So like there's kind of something Bittersweet there,
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right? Honda was working with
tsuburaya, super iodized, Touhouis falling apart and Honda goes
to work for the company that tsuburaya founded, you know, to
go work in television and leave the big screen because it's
presumably the only place that feels like a working home for
him at this point. And I think just a lot of that,
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like, This movie is exceedingly.Well put together.
But man, you can see the you canfeel the lack of passion in this
movie. I really do feel like that.
Yeah. I mean I think if Touhou had let
him dedicate the movie to tsuburaya that adds insult to
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injury, right? Right.
It sure didn't fucking. He could have done that.
I bet he would have been he would push really hard on this
movie. Yeah, I think it would it would
be might have pushed harder. I think that he might have had
more heart in it, because it's like, I don't think that Honda
does not strike me, everything I've read and everything we've
seen. Hannah does not strike me as the
type to half-ass, anything, you know, Honda's very famous for
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getting his movies in like, on budget on time, like no matter
what, he's a stable, Workhorse director, but even so there's
clearly a lot of love for the Craft.
And he wants to put as much as he can into everything he's
working on. And yeah, that's I think, what
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made this so hard for me to watch?
Was it felt Lovelace in a way that Honda's movies have not
before. And and it's hard because it's
again, it's also the movie that feels the most like something he
would have made in the late 50s.Yeah.
So it's just that we've seen himdevelop since the yeah.
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Yeah, you know you know and granted he's developed in a way
that is also required him to make movies for a larger like
more mass audience and kind of leave some of his more overt
political messaging behind in a way that I feel like on paper in
the script this was almost You know, a great return to
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tradition for him. And instead it kind of gotten
made by assembly line, you know,and they made a good, but, to a
certain extent, it was okay. This is going to be it and I'm
out of here, you know, you can nobody can nobody can put in
full effort when you've given your two weeks, notice, you know
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what I mean, right? So, and whether, or not, he knew
about what Was going to happen. Like people had to know, people
had to, to feel that things werenot headed in the right
direction. So, you know, it's sad, it's
sad. There's there's no, it is a an
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interesting movie that I like a lot of parts of, but it is very
difficult to separate that from what I know about this movie
now, and what I know about, The moment that this movie was made
in. So, you know, it's really the
end of an era. Yeah, I'm bummed now.
(45:38):
I'm sorry. We should.
We should wrap. Yeah.
I mean, like, what else is thereto say?
We talked about the social mediamessaging, like, the monsters
are cool. You know, it's just, this is,
this is not a good time, and this sixth does explain.
Why? I'm trying to think of a good
(46:00):
way to put this like the future of Godzilla gets a little weird
for a while. The next movie we're doing
Godzilla versus The Smog Monsteris the only movie direct.
The only Godzilla movie directedby yoshimitsu Bono.
It is Yoshi made Subhan o, right.
Please don't, let me have just made up.
(46:21):
This dude's fucking name. It is yoshimitsu Bono.
Thank God. It's like only the second movie
that Bono ever directed period and he like ba node does not
have a lot of credits. So I don't know where this dude
(46:42):
came from but it almost kind of feels like we need a
motherfucker to make a Godzilla movie now and we got them.
We got this dude. He's done some assistant
directing on some stuff, you know, fuck it.
He's what you know June Phuket is not available.
Let's get this guy. And then the next several
Godzilla movies will be June fuka de, you know.
(47:04):
So it's clearly a period of someturmoil for Touhou as well, but
we're here. I didn't expect to hit this
place, right? Like like I think we both had to
know coming into season two thatwe were going to hit a bad spot.
(47:28):
I thought it would be later. I thought it would be later.
I thought it would be prime. It would just be like the death
of themes, right? That it would be the, you know,
we have completely given up on making anything.
That means anything and we are going to make these soulless,
you know, Blockbusters and they'll be fun, but nobody has
(47:49):
passion for them. I was expecting that I was not
expecting, full-blown tragedy toderail this franchise where it
is. And it really puts into
perspective, toe hose kind of rush to put out, you know, one
of these fuckers every year, no matter what.
Because, let me look at the nextfew.
(48:10):
I mean, yeah, we've got a Godzilla movie a year for five
years straight. Just getting churned out.
Yeah, you know, and and I think we're going to see the quality
suffer somewhat and you know, nowonder the series gets put On
Ice in the mid-70s. Yeah, yeah.
(48:33):
I think I've rambled myself out.I don't know if you've got
anything else to say about this movie or the moment if you like.
I don't know. I feel like this is a story I've
heard before. Yeah.
You know like company screwing everybody over a dear friend
dying and then like this cultural Cornerstone just kind
(48:53):
of shattering under the weight of all that and that just sucks.
Yeah. This isn't the system we should
live. No, it's not good.
It's not good. And you know Honda's ass was
thinking the same thing. So, yeah, that's what we got,
folks. I think I think that's a wrap on
this episode. Fuck.
(49:15):
You know, the outro. Thank you so much for joining us
on our journey. Yada yada.
God, I'm looking forward to the next couple of shows, because at
least they're going to be goofy as hell.
You know, and I need that. I need the goofy at this point.
Yeah, it'll be nice. Yeah.
Yeah you can follow us on Twitter for more of our
(49:37):
sparkling and usually not so, depressed personalities.
I'm at Derby City. Derek.
I'm at the Cerro complex. That's V is C ero complex-2.
That's right. Because this is an even-numbered
episode so you've got to spell it.
Yeah. Well it's an odd numbers
episode. So I thought last time was 21
(49:59):
and this is 22. I was doing it off of the season
the season 2 episode 9. That makes sense because I
didn't have sowed one. Yeah.
And you can follow the show itself at Castle Bravo, pod for
production updates, take care everyone.
And your employer is not your friend Castle.
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All editing is performed by Derek Van Dyke special thanks to
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