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March 22, 2023 96 mins

The last of the big five, and arguably Godzilla's most famous enemy, arrives on the scene! We say farewell to director Jun Fukuda with the strange, endearing, ass-kicking movie that introduced the first incarnation of the infamous Mechagodzilla.


We're joined this week by writer and friend of the show Andréa Mason, who came uniquely prepared to talk about the inspiration this movie took from Italian cinema.


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You're a Nobel prize winning scientist.
This is technology like you've never seen before we study
Godzilla and created the perfectmachine from it.
Does that make your mouth water?Such a way that it's just.

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Hello, everyone and welcome to Castle Bravo.
A Godzilla versus retrospective.I'm Derek and I'm Charlotte and
we are two siblings here. To examine the history of the
Godzilla, franchise one movie ata time.
We're joined this week by friendof the show and Draya Mason
Andrea, how you doing? I'm oh my God, I have had the
busiest two weeks of my life. I removed one of my partner's

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down here. Worked a full week.
My other partner had bottom surgery and that I worked
another full week and now I'm here and some point in that.
I also managed to get violently sick for like two days.
Oh no. And listen.
Into the entirety of Castle Bravo at regular speed at
regular speed is dedication whenit comes to a podcast.

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Yeah. Oh, and you also found time to
watch today's movie four times, four times.
Originally, I was going for six,but last night I was too tired.
And today, I had spent so much time futzing around with my
audio that I didn't have time. After I got out of work, which I
worked a full day of before thisrecording.

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I respect it. I respect it.
Charlotte. Hi.
How are you doing? I'm all right, always.
All right. I'm always all right.
Yeah. How was your Sunday?
It was good. We ordered food.
They got the food wrong. So I just microwave, something.
I kept asking my group chat who to play as an Asian Empires to

(01:50):
and I just kept playing around this is those and yeah I mean
that was it Age of Empires to I will never ever be good.
Good at RTS games and yet my love for Age of Empires to
knows. No bounds.
Everyone's gotta have that one game where you're like, listen,
I hate this genre. Yeah, or not, even hate, is just
like, I don't play this, but this is the one, if it was like

(02:13):
a big PC game in the late 90s, like, my personality is built
around it, so I have no idea what you mean.
I definitely have not put in a reasonable hours amount of hours
into the original Fallout, or anything.
Yes. Oh, I'm very excited.

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This was we've had like a stringof pretty good movies that we've
had a lot of fun with and today spoiler alert continued that
Trend but this is also a send-off to a director that we
were introduced to this season and and really came unexpectedly
to love quite a bit. So we got to talk a little bit

(02:55):
before we delve into the movie about June Phuket has history
with Godzilla because this is not a name that Charlotte or I
had paid much attention to in season 1.
But fuka de had worked as an assistant director and various
other roles under issue Honda onmultiple movies that we covered

(03:15):
in the first season of Castle. Bravo Foucault would end up
getting his first opportunity todirect a Godzilla movie with it.
Was it back Birra horror of the deep and then also did.
Right. So now, yeah, Great movie.
Son of Godzilla, great movie - the nightmare Pillsbury,
Doughboy, but like brought this real fun as I like to put it

(03:40):
fukuda knew what the motherfucking 60s was and
brought that energy to Godzilla.We had this real series of up
and downs through the middle period of the Season.
We're like Destroy All Monsters was this incredible high note
that the franchise was supposed to go out on and then we had a
couple of stinkers. Our entries produced on like no

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money and then fuuka came back. After Honda had left, Honda has
quit filmmaking is left toe. He's done, fuka came back and
gave us Godzilla vs. Gigan.
Which was incredibly fun to watch, like, versus guy again.
And it's his next movie Godzillavs.
Megalon are both messy movies, but they're so fun, and it's

(04:25):
fuka emulating. Honda To his best like capable
degree. And now we have probably one of
the most iconic movies of this era of Godzilla which is
Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla.
I find this interesting because like he only has a writer

(04:45):
credits on some of these this one he has a big writer credit
on and this is the one that feels more like he's in charge
of the movie. Like, it doesn't feel to me,
like, he's trying to be Honda. This feels like he's on his own.
Bullshit. Yes, yes, this.
Yep, this is in a lot of ways. Gigan was the movie that was
closest to Honda were Foucault was like coming back and trying

(05:08):
really hard to step into a big pair of shoes with Honda being
gone from Touhou. And then megalon Ki kind of was
like, let's let's bring a littleof his bullshit back in and then
Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla is just a truly
different energy. I yeah, I was surprised because

(05:29):
I don't remember liking this movie that much when I was
younger and I was Like, glued tothe screen if you have home, I
picked this episode. Like when you put it at, put it
out to ask. Hey, we're looking for people to
be guess I just grab this because I'm like, I like robots,

(05:49):
my experience with the with the Godzilla franchise, very
briefly, like the first movie I ever saw was Godzilla versus
heater or Godzilla versus a smogmonster on a VHS tape on a
camera that are not a camera TV monitor that old ancient CRT
tube. That probably weighed more than
at least two of us combined. I've loved those old clunky

(06:12):
crt's, roughly the size of my head and that was also where I
saw a Destroy All Monsters. And I'm pretty sure another one
from the like showa era as a really young kid at sleeping
over at my friend's house and itwasn't around until College
where I started going back. And being like, well, maybe
Godzilla can actually be good where I saw final wars, which
might still be my favorite and the original Godzilla movie.

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And then obviously, I've seen all the American ones.
No, I don't remember. Actually the 1998 when all that.
Well, I remember it from people talking about it.
It's been so long since I've seen that one and I'm kind of
terrified to hit it again. Oh God.
Also side note, completely not Godzilla relevant but bring up
the big old CRT TVs and monitorsmaybe maybe this is going to

(06:57):
reveal something about me as a child but did either of you lick
a freshly turned off CRT screen as a kid Yeah, no.
Okay that's a be in Charlotte. When I went to college I took my
grandmother's TV because she hadfinally moved into like an old

(07:20):
folks home. Yeah.
And she did, you know, used it for 30 to 40 years and it glowed
in the dark when you turned it off.
Yes. We just stayed lit from, you
know, you know, it took like 30 seconds to fully turn off.
No, it would just glow throughout the night.
It's very faint glow. You have the radioactive CRT CRT

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is have that like low level likeelectrical field at all times so
I had to lick it. Yes.
It's you melds interesting. It's not like ozone.
Yeah I mean I definitely touchedit and got shocked.
Yeah yeah that's one of the things that told me I was
getting older too is when that not that there's many CRTs left
but when I couldn't hear the CRT, Like Screech anymore.

(08:07):
I was like, oh I've actually done.
Damn, oh no hearing now. I think it's possible that
looking the CRT screen is why I'm gay.
I had this, I haven't, I know I didn't do that and I'm very gay.
So, Impossible to tell. Oh, Charlotte.

(08:29):
Yeah, I think it's time to get to the good stuff.
Why don't you tell us what happens in Godzilla vs.
Mechagodzilla? So this movie is one of those
movies that I have to be like a lot happens in this movie
because there's like usually to two plots going on at the same
time, especially towards the end.

(08:53):
But movie starts, and there's like this vast fog and then
Anguirus cries out and there's Sparks an explosion, and I
Godzilla roar, and then the title Godzilla vs.
Mechagodzilla love the title, the way it just like the word
for Godzilla Zooms in on the screen and then the word from
Mechagodzilla assumes out on thescreen.

(09:14):
Yeah, it's so good. Also they remembered Anguirus,
they remembered that they dumpedhim in a hole in the last movie.
That's right. He fell into the middle of the
earth. I love Anguirus.
He's this is not going to be a good time are wonderful spiky,
Bulldog. He's okay.
What about not to be? So then we see some like old

(09:36):
stones and old buildings, and I had originally written Kiran
desk statues. But I don't expect everyone to
know this listening to this withKieran is so lion, desk statues.
And then are actually, this is something that's like we should
just Throw out there now. Yeah, there's something from
like, Japanese and Chinese folklore called, Ash Isa.

(09:56):
Yeah. It is a beautifully.
She says? Yeah, it is a shit.
Yeah, I thought about that like earlier.
It's like a mythological lion dog thing.
Yeah. Which is going to be relevant.
Yeah. I mean I do I do have pages of
notes Here. So we then we see a woman

(10:22):
performing, a dance in front of some people and she's like,
holding a things just like holding a hat and she performing
a dance before she stops. And she's like shocked by
visions of a monster attack. In this older man comes out and
grabs her name is Nami. Ask?
What? What she saw and she explains it
all. Monsters going to destroy the
city and he's going to trample, every everyone that flees is

(10:45):
important. Note here that the footage of
her vision is its Eudora. Yeah.
She gets a glimpse of Adora as like the only way that she's
able to process what is coming? Yeah, I think it's interesting
because I think this is one of like this little bit where it's

(11:05):
like, there's people on fire andit's going good or it's a cut
from another movie and I think it's the only reused clip.
There might be one or two more but for the most part this movie
is just they Got it all new. Yeah, there was a lot of stock
footage in the last like everything sense, Destroy All
Monsters and this is the first one where that's broadly not

(11:26):
happening. Yeah.
So then we go to our main characters masahiko and his
older brother case gay, and they're headed towards a gilks
and cave and masahiko heads inside alone because case k has
to go Go back to working on an expo in Okinawa.

(11:49):
And while he's in there, he finds a shiny chart of some kind
on the ground. Meanwhile, case k arrives and
like he gets to the work site, in the workers are saying, they
found some weird cave, so he enters the cave and there's like
some low ruins inside and some reporters show up.
They start taking pictures, psycho who's in archaeologists

(12:14):
gets mistaken for one of them, but She ends up being wet inside
because she's an archaeologist and they need one and inside.
There's a prophecy on the wall related to King Caesar, which is
the the shiza creature we were talking about along with a
statue of a shiza. So psycho goes back to her

(12:34):
office and she's like recording the information that she found
like writing down what the prophecy isn't everything and
while this is going on some weird guys just looking through
her door at her, And he steps away.
And then another weird guy in a trench coat comes in and looks
like the door. Also, he's gonna, I'm spoiler
alert. He is my favorite character in

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this old thing. He's fucking excellent.
I spent a lot of the movie assuming he was an alien.
I did, he's just a weird guy. So, so psycho boards a plane
with case k and they're going togo ask Professor Walker AA.
About her findings and she stopshim.

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When she sees him like walking to the bathroom or something.
It's like, oh, hey, you're goingto like at this point.
They're not, just like followingeach other around.
It's just, it's still coincidence at this point.
Yeah, but they recognize each other, so they're fine with it.
Yeah, yeah. But she's trying to take her
findings to the professor and asit turns out the weird

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trenchcoat guy is also there andhe claims to be a reporter who's
also interested in the statue. So just like Haggard and I love
him. Yeah, he's got, he's I love
that. He's just got these extremely
70s sunglasses and he's always smoking.
I know it's like a cigarillo butit looks like this man just has

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a joint through the whole movie.I know what I choose to believe
it is this. It's the 70s, and it depends
like really hard on weed, but I also just love the idea of this,
dude, just the whole time is just like Yeah, Steph is man.

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So while they're in the plane, they look at the window and
there's like this. Huge black cloud outside in.
Psycho is like, well, that must have to do with the prophecy and
they get to where they're going to the professor's house.
And it turns out that Professor is actually keisuke's uncle.
So he has a reason to be there to promise.

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Meanwhile. Yeah, I was gonna say when she
gets out of it. Like she gets out of the taxi to
go in and like he pays his fair he gets out of the taxi and he's
like, hey you don't need to be following me and he just walks
by and goes up to the door and then the two of them greet each
other. And she's just like, I just
heard like I'm on camera. Just like what the fuck?
And then it's like, oh, he's your uncle and you're an

(15:02):
asshole. I get you.
Yeah. Meanwhile, masahiko brought that
metal shards, that he found two,professor of miyajima who is
able to determine that it's space, titanium, which I guess
is a thing and an earthquake occurs, which is apparently, the
like the tenth day in a row, they've had an earthquake, the

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Radio thinks it's because there's a giant monster digging
underground. So the first weird guy from
earlier, not the trenchcoat weird guy, just the other weird
guy with the mustache. He shows up, he tries to mug
Professor Walker before Kacie. I wrote kind of sort of fights
him off because he kinda sorta, does he almost gets smothered

(15:47):
also? So yeah, I really liked this
fight and it's gonna be a running theme throughout this
movie about things. I like about it.
Like this is my film bringing activating.
There's something like a lot of fights and Godzilla movies.
Sometimes I really corny or whatever this fight is
uncomfortably realistic. Yes, like it's One guy who's
kind of good at fighting and oneguy who's fights, like he is a

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construction worker which he we see he's like a foreman at the
place or whatever and it's not like highly choreographed.
They're just sort of wrestling each other but there are some
punches there where they look like it looks like one of them
actually got hit. He could is a lot of these like
human-to-human like scuffles in Phuket is movies.
Have this like real have, this really weird feeling of being

(16:33):
very rough and very realistic. Like they're not choreographed
fights, like you said, this looks like two dudes.
Actually try to beat the hell out of each other.
Yeah, it's very Keith. David, Rowdy Roddy Piper, you
know what I mean? Yeah it's something that's going
to come up again. And again there's a lot of the
ways like this is shot. That feels a specific way to me

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and the way this is very close up.
It's Terrible. It's in a very tight frame.
It just really makes it like feel like uncomfortably close in
a way. I really like, it's like candid
footage of like, a Subway fight,right?
Like yeah. So, unfortunately, the mugger

(17:18):
escape and the, the trench coat man is there looking at them
from afar? Yeah, but I thought that this
happen, the mugger escapes but he didn't get this statue
because The uncle or whoever sent the archaeologist out with
the statute. So shelves in her hand is like
get the fuck out of here, right?Right.

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And that does nothing in the fight, he just sort of stands
there. Awkwardly picks up the gun
that's there at some point and just kind of like you would
expect an old man who doesn't know what to do to do, right?
So Interruption and an explosionoccurs at Mount Fuji, followed
by Godzilla like emerging from the explosion.

(17:59):
Like balled up hell yeah yeah case he decides he's going to go
case Kay decides. He's going to go check out his
brother and the old man at the same time the old man tells
Nami. That her vision must be coming
true because it was like an explosion and Godzilla's here.

(18:20):
So Godzilla is like running through buildings at this point
when Anguirus appears from underground and like trips him
over. Keys keys, like really shocked
about the fact that Anguirus andGodzilla are fighting because
they're supposed to be like BFFs.
Yeah, which is weird because as of this point Godzilla and
Anguirus have fought each other once and fought together once on

(18:44):
screen. So like you know yeah I mean
Anguirus was around for a couplefights and didn't directly
attack on so that's close enoughin this book right now.
I can't remember if it's at thispoint or a later point but the
old Man also says something about like like the the woman in
the the old man at the castle. Look in place are like

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descendants of the Okinawa royalfamily or whatever.
Yeah, they are. These the go.
Yeah, the girl is and the old man is such a shit to everyone
around him throughout this wholemovie.
And there's a point where he's just like, he's literally like,
yeah, Godzilla just wrecked the shit out of Japan.
Avenge us. Make everyone happy to see.

(19:28):
Troy the financial district. Godzilla has like this piece of
space Titanium on its shoulder so that's interesting.
The monster start fighting also Godzilla's got a serious case of
Botox face. Yeah, it's really weird is not
moving at all. Not blinking mouth is just

(19:49):
hanging open. Like yeah, this happened.
I was like this is not a very good suit.
There's this moment though, there's one good bit of this
fight from Godzilla. We're just like, and Gary shows
up in like starts roaring at himand whatever and he just sort of
wish I had a camera on for this.Just sort of brings his hands up
and then drops into a stance. Yeah, yeah.

(20:12):
Put a pin in that because that is a very intentional thing that
I'm going to explain later. Yeah, I just it's such a like
it's such a good moment where his just and he's in the stands
and I'm just like, oh this is going to be good and it is.
Yeah, yeah. And after slamming and gears to

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the ground Godzilla just starts tearing and giris.
His face apart like pulling the drawers apart until anger is
like bleeding and has to flee, agraphic amount of blood, an
absurd amount of blood just read.
Paint everywhere. Yeah, I gotta say, I like he's
been beat up more, but of the, like, injuries that we've seen

(20:57):
in Gira sustained Godzilla movies.
This is one of the ones where you're just like, oh well,
that's not good. Yeah, go to the fucking dentist.
Like he need to go to the vet and now that he's done jobbing
and wrestling fashion need to sort of wanders off after that.

(21:19):
Like yeah. No, the way.
Yeah, he just Taps and it's funny.
Actually out could swear. I remember that Anguirus dies in
this movie and, and that that's clue.
Just faulty memory, you know? Because he does like, wander off
to lick his wounds. Yeah, I mean, well, he's not
going to have a choice. It's in his mouth.

(21:41):
But yeah, I also don't blame youif you like, saw this movie when
you're younger and saw his job Rift.
Yeah, open the hard way. And you were just Just like, oh,
he dead like, yeah, no, I get you.
I'm right there with you. Well, and of course he can't be
lives. He can't have died.
Exactly. Because he's in Destroy All
Monsters, but but yeah, yeah, let's continuity anyway.

(22:03):
Yeah, well, they're sign, but yeah, it's fine.
He went underground. The, what's the, what's the mole
one? The mole one.
Help them wire his jaw shut, it's fine.
So case k happens upon like an entire brick of space-time
Medium. And he takes it back to

(22:23):
Professor miyajima. Yeah.
And they decide they're good. Boys.
The noise. It's always making.
Yeah. It's like wheeling and somatic.
Yeah, it almost sounds like a geiger counter going way off,
but it's more like Dad a key andit's only there for the to these
two points. But it's just such good sound
design at I got hung up on it. Yeah.

(22:45):
So the professor and everybody decide they're going to go go
after Godzilla and see what's going on because Godzilla's
acting weird. And also, the professor shows
off his like ion pipe. I originally wrote down what he
said, it was, but I don't know what that word means.
So it's an eye on pipe because that's what it's referred to

(23:06):
elsewhere. Yeah, it's like a strana pecan
or something. It's totally been.
I looked into it. It's It's not even another
movies. It was literally just a word.
They, I think they made up on the spot.
Okay, yeah. I was like, I've never heard of
that, but if he puts like, if hetakes the pipe apart, like the
stem off the like, like neck puts them on either side of an

(23:27):
electronic. It's it just explodes.
Which is funny, because he just does this to his own lab
equipment. Yeah.
He's like, hey, check this shit out and just explode.
And I'm sure that won't be a plot Point later.
I'm sure he's just showing it off because it's funny.
Yeah, a true icon, put a pin in that one because I have
something to say about that later.

(23:50):
So Godzilla's running rampant and shooting like, weird,
yellow, Atomic blasts at everything.
That's another thing to say is like, up to this point,
Godzilla's roar is just a littleoff, like it's different and
then there's the, the beam breath just has this.
Like, I slammed my Hand on it ona synth, kind of 02 it.

(24:11):
Yeah, yeah. And I, I know we said that this
isn't reuse any any footage, butit looks exactly like the other
oil. Refineries that have been
blowing up for the last like twomovies.
Yeah, it gets blown up. Again.
I mean, I guess a lawyer oil refineries, probably look
relatively the same, but we're going to this this oil field and

(24:36):
then another Godzilla. There's so wild shot to because.
Yeah, for the most part, some ofthe big shots are very static
but then there's this awesome, like, pan around this warehouse
and then all of a sudden Godzilla explodes out of it.
Why is he there? We don't know, taking a nap just

(24:57):
cuz if there's a like I went back specifically after I saw
this and I'm like, that's a weird place for him to show up
from maybe you know, Godzilla vs.
Mega launder. The previous movies, have some
explanation for it and no No, no, it's just a big old
Warehouse that's just where he is right now.
Don't worry about it. Yeah.
It was quiet. Yeah.

(25:19):
Was they had snacks was So, there's this guy in a shiny suit
and he's like, watching a monitor of everything going on,
and he's really surprised that the real Godzilla appeared so
quickly. And while the, the two
Godzilla's are kind of fighting this out the the fake
Godzilla's. Machinery is visible and the

(25:41):
professor's like oh that's a cyborg.
That's Mechagodzilla actually. Yeah.
Yeah, some point like Godzilla pose a chunk of his arm off and
the professor just has I don't know what to call it other than
a Galaxy brain moment where it'sjust like.
Huh. I'll bet you that spice
titanium. Yeah, it's a giant cyborg that
that works. Fuck yeah, I'm lazy

(26:04):
Mechagodzilla. Why not The man and the shiny
suit like flips a switch and thethe fake exterior of
Mechagodzilla like Burns away and it reveals mechagodzilla's
body. This bit is so fucking sick.
I love it. Fucking son of it.
It's a simple practical effect. I'm pretty sure but it just

(26:26):
looks fantastic and also cannot be stated Enough.
Mechagodzilla's original like 1970s design fucking incredible
easy. Only my favorite Mechagodzilla
look like because obviously there will be many
mechagodzilla's over the years and many different forms and

(26:46):
Origins but this shit is Iconic so good.
I can't fire. Yeah, prior to watching this, I
thought that every Mechagodzillawas like built by people to just
fight against Godzilla That's what I thought Mechagodzilla
was. I don't know where I got that
impression from. I mean, that's that's a that's a

(27:09):
version, right? I mean, that's because been many
mechagodzilla's. So yeah.
So they're fight begins and theydo like a beam clash and
Godzilla gets launched into the water and Mechagodzilla is
launched under the ground and the Man in the suits.
Like well, I guess we'll have topostpone our attack on Tokyo and
he orders Mechagodzilla to return to their base.

(27:30):
Yeah. And the shot like everybody that
came To watch, like, the professor and all the other main
characters are like, they keep looking at me like, oh, it's
Godzilla. Okay.
And you just see like all it wasone of my favorite shots in this
movie and I had a lot of favorites, but it's just like,
it's bubbling. Water like, something's
underneath. But there's just blood coming up

(27:50):
in the middle of. Yeah, yeah so much of this movie
and it's only going to get worsefrom here.
So fucking bloody like me being the violence.
Feeling that? I am.
I love it. But I have to wonder because
like the color of the blood sometimes and some of the
effects especially like on Godzilla when he's out of the
water and Anguirus has this likepaint texture to it that

(28:13):
immediately makes me think that like maybe Jun fukuyama was like
watching a ton of Jell-O films before this.
It's just like there's a bunch of ways to this movie is shot
the soundtrack. Everything about it feels like
doing for CO2, like did a ripplecocaine and then watched like,
quani fucking Italian movies. We'll see.
Brought that possibility in DMS and the thing is like, thinking

(28:37):
about it. I fully agree that, that has to
be some piece of inspiration that that almost explains the
the difference, in the like tonein the in the score in the
cinematography from because likevs.
Gigan and versus mega Wan feel very similar and then vs.
Mechagodzilla is same director but just drastic change in so

(29:02):
much of it. Say so Attic and yeah I do think
that like spaghetti Cinema is isprobably where a lot of that's
coming from the Getty Cinema. That's a good name.
But yeah like especially the like I think there's some
influence like from Sergio Leoneand spaghetti westerns but like
jello film specifically like this slashers and thrillers that

(29:24):
were big in that. Genre that gate the name giallo
because they're shot in similar ways and all of this there's an
explosion from like 1968 E8, themid-70s at least were Italian
Cinema is just on a fucking rampage.
Spaghetti. Westerns, come out there, huge
the giallo films, pump out, so much stuff that like certain

(29:45):
icon, certain directors, like Dario Argento like become like
International names. And I think there's some other
movies that were coming out around this time that really
influence fukuda or foca And I think this is a movie where the
fur like he got a lot more like involved in it and a lot more

(30:08):
free rein. I think, I think so.
I have a theory as to why that is.
Yeah, I mean that makes sense and we can talk about that more
like, you know, a little bit later in but I would be inclined
to agree with that. Also, it's as funny that you
bring this, this lineup of like Italian Cinema.
Because actually in a couple of years, there's going to be a

(30:29):
very Famous Italian version of the original 1950s, Godzilla
called Co Zilla, which you should look up sometime if you
get the chance because it is this very like trippy
acid-washed, they attempt to color the film with like
overlaid color. Gels that given this very dreamy

(30:52):
weird aesthetic. It's got this really fucked up
like musical score, that's completely different from E,
fuku Bays. It's it's super it's like Co zi
L LA but lookup code, Zilla sometime.
If you get the opportunity to it's not very weird watch.
Yeah. I cannot tell you how much in

(31:12):
like prepping for this that I just remembered how much I love
Godzilla. How could anyone not definite?
Yeah, well, I mean, I think, like, most of my experience as
like an adult, and as someone who is really into movies came
with a lot of the later stuff. Tough.
Like I think the first one I watched as an adult was Godzilla

(31:35):
final wars and then spread out from there.
But like the ones I saw the mostof my childhood where they show
era stuff. So like it's nostalgic for me to
go back and dig into this even though I would not have
appreciated this as much as a kid.
Yeah, yeah for sure. I mean, like I said, I didn't
like this as much as a kid and now, as an adult like oh no, I
get it, the shit, ribs. Yeah, but anyways, I think first

(31:59):
one I saw Was 99. So anyways, I forgot where we
were in the plot. I didn't so the professor tells
me I'm sorry. This just comes up and fucking
dunks me through. Go ahead.

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So, the professor tells masahikothat he needs to head to Okinawa
to search that cave for clues, gilks in cave and says, that the
Mac is probably being controlledby aliens because it's probably
made a space titanium. And that's a fair assumption.
Like and yeah, this takes we're going to assume this takes place

(32:44):
in the universe. Everything else has and it's
like, yeah, aliens space metal, sure.
Like, let's look at the past, I don't know, five or six years.
Anna. That makes.
At this point you have the idea of an alien invasion.
Can't be weird because it's happened you know half a dozen
times. Yeah yeah so the aliens decide

(33:04):
at about the same time that theyneed to find an earth scientist
to help the repair. As move faster because if they
don't do this in a certain amount of time, they're going to
get in trouble. Yeah one of them has a throwaway
line about the sir headquarters will be mad at us at The
Invasion timetables get thrown off.
Right. I'm glad that aliens also have
like middle-management psycho and case k weren't that like

(33:31):
they they're learning about the hieroglyphs and the prophecy
like, figuring out what it actually says they have to place
the statue in has Umi car. So to awaken King Caesar and the
aliens decide concurrently that they're going to steal the
statue. So that King Caesar can't be
awakened. So they start heading to Okinawa

(33:51):
and they actually switch ships at some point to full their
alien pursuers but trench coat man.
Is still there. Yeah, I love that.
They're like clearly, they won'tlook into like our booking.
We've got them this time and then he every creepy guy from
the movie so far is just also Goon the boat.
Yeah, yeah. So, masahiko and Professor

(34:15):
miyajima are in the cave. Also, miyajima is daughter, but
I don't really mention her very much because she's just kind of
there. She's there to be a plot like I
like fukunaga. Women don't get a good Shake in
this movie. Ekos, just there to be a plot
device. Yeah, and they end up getting
captured by the aliens who revealed that they're from black

(34:39):
hole Planet 3. Which is not how that works.
But yeah, they're like the thirdplanet of the black hole outer
space which is just the way he says it in both.
Like I watched the dub and the subversion of this.
They say it both ways. Anyways.
Yeah. So the aliens have the professor

(35:01):
at gunpoint and they dragged hisdaughter and masahiko away to
the death chamber, death chamber, the death chamber, And
they, they're forcing him to work on a mecha Godzilla.
The alien guy feels like a fucking Bond villain through the
whole thing. He just has a glass of what
looks like absinthe in one handed.
His cigar in another like Phuket.

(35:23):
It was clearly like he did a bunch of like spy films and bond
parodies and she's just like oh cool I get to put a bond villain
in this one. Yeah I can you imagine if
someone just comes down from thestart and just like tries to
conquer your planet was like hold on I gotta I gotta pop
around the corner for some Blackand Milds real quick.
I'll be right back and some companies like Freddy Williams,

(35:45):
it just comes back and it's likeanyways, work on our giant robot
or I'm going to murder your daughter.
Yeah. But the other thing he says, is
he first is like, hey work on this for us and miyajima is just
like, know why would I? And he's like, listen the
English version. He says something along the
lines of you're a Nobel prize winning.

(36:08):
Scientist. This is technology like you've
never seen before we study Godzilla and created the perfect
machine from it. And he says the line does that
make your mouth water? Such a way that it's just like
the way he says it. He's just like that.
Make your mouth water. It's like, he's clearly like
it's like you're a scientist. This is an opportunity.
I know you don't want to pass upbut still miyajima is like no

(36:30):
and he's like, all right so takethe daughter and he's like so
where you take, where are you? Taking already says that the
execution room. The execution room is even
better, it's so good. I knew I was gonna have to bring
it up and that's one of my like three points where I'm like, oh
my God, the English dub is good for something.

(36:51):
Anyways, yeah, so they they cut away to case k and psycho and
they're basically just sitting around going, you know, I feel
like we're being watched It doesbecause they're being watched.
Godzilla gets caught in a lightning storm.
This is probably my favorite part of this movie like this.

(37:12):
Oh my God. Yeah, like right before it.
When there's like, they're cutting to all these scenes of
them, clearly being watched. She's just like, did you hear
Godzilla right? And it just now but the main
characters like, no, I didn't hear it.
And she's like, maybe I'm just hearing things.
I could have sworn. I heard it now.
We fast. Cut to Godzilla just like coming
out of the water just repeatedlygetting struck by lightning.

(37:37):
Just like Godzilla, just like glowing and sparking cabs or
bang it. Yeah, that's what I might sell.
It was weak to electricity. Yeah.
Well not anymore. Yeah, this is like visually one
of my favorite moments. I didn't talk about it earlier
but there's a moment is a coupleof moments where I'm like even

(37:58):
though this shit is so hokey like for Cuca, doesn't shoot
things away, Honda does but still has a vision for like
really. Good framing.
Yes. And earlier when they're
fighting in the refinery, there's all these explosions
going off and you can tell for asecond on a soundstage because
there's these giant Shadows on the wall or the the sky is
painted behind them, but it doesn't matter that it because

(38:21):
it just looks like these, like, projections of giants around
these explosions and the shot inthis one were Godzilla after
being struck by lightning, they just like light sparklers or
something on his back. But it's, this is all this like
Sparks coming off of me soaked in rain and he's just like
barreling down the camera. It's so good.

(38:43):
It's so good. Yeah, yeah.
So many of the like super pyrotechnics and effects-heavy
like night sequences in this movie are so fucking good.
The whole. I mean like the whole Refinery
fight was incredible, you know? And and this is just flexing.
I feel like Yeah, so here for referred to as the mugger from

(39:10):
here on the mugger sneaks into into psychos room and steals a
red box from her bag and case k comes in and like chokes him
out. But the mugger like pulls a
knife. On him case, he managed to get
his get his gun away from him and shoots him in the face in
the wound on his face. Like ripples out and reveals

(39:31):
that Underneath his human face. He's a, he's a gorilla, he's
like a gorilla creature. Yeah, this is, this movie is
kind of all over the place in a way I love and it's I this is
one of the few parts where I wonder if like if it was really
for good for good to just be like, yeah, sure, they're monkey
aliens or of the studio, like interfered a little bit.

(39:52):
And looks like, hey, Planet. There they put up five Planet of
the Apes movies. Recently, those are pretty
popular. You should put monkeys.
I feel like a hundred percent. That's what happened.
And unfortunately, like the ideaof semi Simian, aliens is not a
bad one, but the, it's the effects work on the aliens
themselves. As one of the few letdowns of

(40:15):
the movie. I feel like I kind of like it in
a weird. Like kitty said, I like the
transition. But like, we will see a couple
of, like, the full faces eventually and it's sunny and
not a very good like mask, but Ilike the weird ripply.
Act, you know, of of transitioning from, you know,

(40:35):
the person half of the face to the, the monkey, half of the
face. If I were to put it on like a
flock to Camp scale, it's very much on the slock and yes, I
love the schlock to Camp scale. Honestly, that's a great
Spectrum to work off of. Yeah.
And this has another instant. So like the fight takes place,
like the mugger gives in and outwithout psycho noticing that

(40:59):
he's there. And it's never explained how
fucking should be using, was already in his room ready to
jump the mugger. It's Jimmy's was a pretty clever
kid, so I'll give him that. Yeah.
But it's another instance of like the fights feel really
real. And there's a chase scene right
after this, where they go, like across the boat where, like,

(41:20):
after it's revealed that it's like, he's got half a monkey
face, he just grabs the statue and runs he meets the monkey
noises. Mmm, yes, it's just constant.
So it's Then all of the aliens remind me of there were a couple
car dealerships nearby that lookyou Sasquatches.
And for some reason, every time I saw one of the aliens, I was

(41:41):
like that looks just like the masks on in the commercials for
the car dealership, Sam's. Yeah, this movie does commit.
What? Usually I would call a sin right
here as well. But in this case I kind of like
it. It does something that they
called day for night. Yes.
Where are you? But basically you shoot the shot

(42:04):
really dimly in order to emulatenight if you don't have night.
Shooting and obviously they shotthis all these scenes on the
actual like Ferry as it was. I think that the one note I said
they were like out at sea for four days it's like yeah there's
no way you're going to be able to light that well to shoot on
it. Yeah.
And they just use like right. Probably just a series of

(42:25):
neutral density filters to like literally darken the image
coming in. Yeah.
But like then and like I have kind of a soft spot for like day
for night shooting because thereis such a trend and like man
we're going to talk about Lighting night sequences in
movies, the the 90s run of God'swill is going to be a great
fucking time, but there is this trend in modern movies were dark

(42:48):
scenes, are unreadable, e dark with no contrast or detail on
the darkness and a lot of these old movies that did day for
night. Like, okay.
It's not as convincingly night but I can also make out every
detail in the scene. I can see the key players, I can
see the active. Yeah, so there's been a lot of
instances and I'm guilty of thisin the film.

(43:08):
As I made of high school were shooting day for night, just
doesn't look good. Let's trigger it here it.
I feel like it elevates the scene because it makes it look
like they're out at Sea and it kind of looks cloudy and it
gives it this like off-kilter. Unsettling thing, that makes
what otherwise is kind of just like he throws.
Some deck chairs, like the mugger, throw some deck chairs.

(43:29):
It should be easy while he's chasing, there's one he takes on
the stairs around, like that actually had to hurt.
Because he throws like the monkey guy.
Throws a dick chair down at him and he just eats shit go like
his legs, get tangled up in the bottom of the chair and he falls
down the stairs and then like detangles himself and keeps
chasing him, and I'm like, oh that's good.
No, it's a great, it's a great bit.

(43:52):
Yeah, the mugger runs Case, Casechases him with a gun to the
ship stack, the mugger manages to get the gun and then forces
case, k to step away, but someone around the corner shoots
him and he falls overboard. And unfortunately, he had the
statue. Yeah, but the the trench coat
man appears clearly, the guy whoshot the mugger.

(44:13):
Yeah, I love the setup of the. This is one of those like,
those, like really spy movie moments, where psycho runs up,
and she's like, they got the mugger got the statue and he's
like, I know he fell overboard and the two of them look over.
And he's like I'm worried about the way he fell and she's like,
what do you mean? It's like it's like One shot him

(44:37):
and then trenchcoat guy shows up.
And this is the second point. I wanted to talk about this
because in the Japanese version,he says, this is a night to talk
about romance or something like that, but in the English dub he
just sort of shows up and he's like hey I don't like this.
Two of you should be talking about love and then guys does
like a weird laugh and walks offand I fucking love the delivery

(45:01):
of it. It's not hokey.
It's like it. It's genuine in a weird way.
Like It just fits how weird thischaracter has been up to this
moment and I'm like that's my favorite.
Like this is why he's my favorite character.
Incredible yeah and it really isbut case k actually entrusted

(45:23):
the real statute of the ship's captain and it was in a safe.
So the statue of the went overboard was fake.
Yeah it's a really good line about like what your friends
don't know, your enemy's Camp know.
Yeah. Full Your Friends, full your
enemies. Yeah.
This is just more of Phuket is like Just love of spy ship.

(45:46):
So much of this. I love like, every this is
something you've talked about a ton, every Godzilla movie is
quietly carried by the quality of its beep.
Lot about what's happening with the humans.
And having watched this film fortimes, it's pretty airtight
everything adds up. It's a slick little Thriller

(46:07):
that also just happens to have giant monsters in the back, is
why I hate when people do the whole like good.
These stupid human stories out Like, the problem with some of
these Godzilla movies is not thepresence of human actors.
It's just not creating a compelling enough set of
characters. Or, you know, be like you said,
be plot to string the movie along, right?

(46:30):
Yeah. And that's something that
honestly, I got to say like, watching the or listening
through the entire podcast has really made me gone back and
re-evaluate my period. My opinions on the American
movies. Because those for what they are
like it's just being like I had fell into that trap of.
I wish there was more Monster stuff and then I got back to

(46:52):
thinking about it and I'm like, no actually you know what those
ones did have like a good balance.
I'm going to be really very exciting guest to like
especially the legendary ones, you know, with with the
perspective that we're going to gain from watching all of these
Godzilla movies, you know, frontto back.
Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, several people have said, I

(47:15):
think one of them was the legendary director, but I know
their director of Final War Godzilla, final wars both said
that this was their their favorite and I love that it had
like this movie, which I'll get to talking about when we talk
about the production, but it's amazing to me that this like
stuck in so many people's minds.Yeah, and I'm glad it did.

(47:38):
It also means we get more of a certain Kaiju later on So they
arrived in Okinawa psycho and case k are told by the concierge
that masahiko in the professor haven't actually been heard of
heard from for, like, two days. And there's a, there's a new guy
with glasses, looming nearby. And he seems to be keeping an

(48:01):
eye on Seco, like, she's out on her balcony and he's like down
near the pool. Looking at her.
Fester miyajima complete repairson Mechagodzilla and he asks
that he asked that masahiko and his daughter be returned.
But as you would expect, he getsthrown into the death chamber to
and the death chamber. I'm never going to stop being

(48:22):
thrilled by the death chamber. I hate when I get thrown into
the death chamber, the fuck the death chamber, all my homies,
hate the death, so good. The death chamber is a giant
microwave. It hell yeah.
That's the pressure cooker. I think.
Yes, they like you should Kojimayou made up nothing.

(48:46):
Yeah, he gets like me as human gets shoved in there and they
like they try to help him to hisfeet and keep trying to work him
to the wall. So you have like something.
To support himself against but steam just starts billowing out
of them. Like there's holes in the walls
and steam start spilling out of them and like a row of pipe were
steam comes out and then this thing comes on overhead and in

(49:09):
the at least in the English dub they say they're trying to scold
us to death and this is another moment where I, my brains going
big giallo films because it's very, very red in there.
There's a light overhead and there's this little fucking
thing that as the temperature gets hotter.
Just keeps digging every time itgoes up and it Very close, very
uncomfortably of them like this branch in sweat great.

(49:32):
Like, it's genuinely a bit unsettling.
I'm just trying to get like, literally boiling people alive
and like having a torture room like Syria has an Infamous.
Seen, the original Suspiria has a scene or a room just opens up
into a pit filled with razor wire.

(49:53):
So like in my head, I associate Torture rooms with Jello films.
And like, the intensity of this room just stands out in a way
that I'm like, I can't believe this movie is rated G.
You smoking aliens, don't be fucking around.
Yeah, well they do the worst kind of way but yeah, case k ins

(50:17):
up finding the professor's pipe he gets held up by an alien but
the the trench coat Man shows upsaves them and trenchcoat man's
name is Saline on Barra and he'swith Interpol.
My boy, not borrow. He is my favorite character in
this movie can love. So good.
If you told me that, like, if someone told me that's just

(50:37):
actually June fukuda fuka, I would believe them.
I don't think it's not obviouslyit's a different actor.
I double and triple check to make sure how but he's so
fucking cool and everything he does for the rest of the movie
is so fucking good. The coolest man, this movie
contains and could possibly contain the Zeitgeist of the

(51:00):
early 70s, just congealed into atall Japanese man and I want to
ask him to take me home. So don Bara forces, the alien to
take them to their base and meanwhile the three that are in
the death chamber are being microwaved, but the boys

(51:20):
basically and I'm getting disguises and they managed to
break into the death chamber andthey have like a quick-draw
firefight with the aliens and they managed to escape.
Yeah, not like apparently part of this.
Oh no, that one's later. But yeah, they opened the door.
They deck dudes, they take theircostumes and when they get out
of the death chamber, like on borrow has like his gun tucked

(51:43):
into the back of his sing. And when all the aliens are
like, you know, hands up, he just slowly raises his hand and
then shoots out the ceiling and then quick like I think I'd have
to go back and watch it again. I think he fans the hammer to
hit both of them. With his fucking service
revolver. It's the coolest shit.
It's the best. Yet, I love this movie, so much

(52:04):
fucking Swagger and in earns it.Yeah.
Like he's been kind of weird up to this point but just, I mean,
he was a weird guy, but yeah, and it's funny too because
there's one of Phuket has other movies.
This is movie. I think it's called iron finger.
Yes. Where the premise is that
someone accidentally stumbles into it, like, like a case of

(52:27):
mistaken identity is Balls into like an affairs with an Interpol
agent who's been murdered and like ends up having to like do
his job. And that like, that's kind of
the plot of this movie, too, because non bharara says
something when he finally reveals himself, like I've been
with Interpol, we've been having, he says something like
we've had a Dragnet out for months trying to figure out what

(52:49):
these alien guys were up to and you just kind of walked
face-first into it kids. So here I am.
And here we are, let's go kill some goddamn monkeys.
So they escaped and they're tracked outside where there's a
car that's been rigged to explode but like non bar
immediately notices. This it's the same trick.

(53:10):
They pulled like a movie or two of ya.
Like the exact same one, but he they like get out of the car and
he trips the explosive other outside the car.
So they aliens, like I guess they fell for the Trap.
I guess they're dead, which is ashame because it's a beautiful
car. It's a pretty car.
It looks like it. I forget what the name on the
badge is but it looks kind of like a Mustang from that era.

(53:32):
It's just like, oh yeah, I hate to see you leave.
All of these cool old cars that are showing up in these movies.
Yeah. And the other thing I like about
this is it's very clear. There's other than the like a
couple of the fights. There's not a lot of model work
in this. They clearly just blew up an
actual car like from the weight of it in the way it sits and
from how it reacts the explosion.

(53:53):
It's like, oh no. They just they just took
someone's car in somebody's old junker and that wasn't working
anymore. Yeah.
And they were just like, yeah, fucking dynamite in it.
Yep. So at this point, the moon has
turned red, the professor's lamenting that he that he had to
help the aliens but he knows fora fact that he's the only one

(54:16):
that could destroy mechagodzilla's head controls
and case k hands him his pipe back because that's what he's
going to use to do it. Yeah, this is something that I
that I love throughout the movie.
Like they make sure in the Seinewhere they get captured in the
cave that the I wouldn't have noticed this if I hadn't watched
it four times but this movie is so fucking are tight and it's a

(54:37):
little plot devices. Like the professor has his pipe
in his hand. The whole time, they're walking
through the cave and he clearly drops it when they all get held
up but nobody seems to notice and then to Mizu finds it later
and then hands it to him at thatpoint.
Yeah. What?
Nobody say that these movies arenot like really intelligently

(55:00):
directed when they have The timeand effort to put into him
Derek. Hmm, yeah.
Are you eating? I'm sorry I am.
Okay, okay. Do I need to do some Foley work?
Of, I've got a soda here, I thought I was doing a boyfriend,
the microphone, I'm sorry - are never far enough away.

(55:23):
That's gonna be really loud in the recording and I apologize.
Well, I guess calling out means,I don't have to edit it out now.
Also but miyajima like both versions dub and sub.
He just has this rail line of. No, I have to like they're going
to split up to Mizu and psycho are going to take the statue and

(55:47):
try to get King chisa up and theother three masahiko miyajima
and I'm barback like, we're gonna go fuck up the aliens.
And when we Jima says he's goingto do this, he's like I sold my
soul to the devil. I I have to go back and do this.
They're like they had your daughter hostage and he's like,

(56:07):
I don't care. I'm going yeah.
Shouldn't have done it. Fucking respect.
Yeah. Did you did you know that the
the miyajima the doctor medium here is the same actor who
played serizawa in The Originalsit I didn't catch that.
I mean I know they reuse actors a lot but I didn't catch that.
That's awesome. Yeah there's a bunch of stuff to

(56:30):
where I wonder like Like like this was the 20th anniversary,
right of the original young coming out and there is some
note of made of that and that production notes, I guess this
miyajima was in a bunch of otherGodzilla films but this is like
a second, most prominent role obviously, the first one being
the most important character in the original Godzilla movie may

(56:54):
be the single most important human character in the
franchise. If you want to be real about it.
Yeah, it probably even Matthew Broderick.
It's been fun, guys. I'm gonna, excuse me.
I'm just look, scuse me. Do you want to resend that bud?

(57:15):
Yeah, I didn't mean that. Are you still eating maybe?
Yeah. Hey, I mean, at least I haven't
said anything. I need to bleep out yet.
I you did say them. As you broadrick thing.
Yeah, that won't get me in legaltrouble, that's fair.

(57:37):
So case k grab psycho, and they head to azmi castle with the
Statue while non Barra miyajima and masahiko go back to the
alien base. And non borrow like, knocks an
alien out with the The Hitman wire stuff.
I don't know what wire. Yeah.
Yeah, it literally Grazie dude. Which apparently Lee was cut

(57:58):
from some of the original American edits.
You just like they sneak into the base and he just like,
literally strangles the dude to death.
Yeah. And that guy has a gorilla say
is difficult because think aboutthat monkey neck is yeah.
Yeah this is one of those like Iagree with you about the monkey

(58:19):
thing, like I think it's fun butthis is like, you can clearly
see where they were putting makeup on and they're like The
Stills kind of tilt forward. To match.
Where they overlaid stuff. Yeah.
So there's just a point where like Navarro just jumps forward.
It looks like, oh, yeah, yeah. But anyways, so nah, me and the

(58:40):
old man, he captured by aliens. Well, they're held captive
rather, and the man from with glasses, from earlier, appears
and saves them from having to hand over the statue, and he's
Tom Araya from Interpol. So now we have to interpolate
Agents. Yeah, the sun is like rising in

(59:00):
the west as far as they can see,but it's a mirage.
But this is, this is the prophecy.
The moon will be read in the sunwill rise in the west.
So they place the statue on the castle roof and they wait and
the little statues like shoots beans out of its little eyes at
a nearby Cliff face and it reveals King Caesar.
Yeah, yeah. The aliens are made aware like,

(59:25):
immediately and launch Mechagodzilla.
Yeah, and right after they do that, I think the cast.
I can't remember if it's before or after they get there with a
statue are three. The three Heroes of went back in
just immediately, like run into the control room and immediately
Gets Zapped by something from the ceiling.
And the way that the dude turns around he's just like, I thought

(59:48):
you were dead. Wow.
Fuck you. And then they're just like the
rest of the time. They're tied up on a couch
watching. Everything that's happening.
Yeah. Yeah.
The boys are basically hoping togo destroy the control room
before Mecha Godzilla, can do anything and Nami because she's
like The Last Descendant of the as Ami rushes out sings sings,

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The King Caesar song and King Caesar wakes up and then at this
point that's when the the boys are Like zapped with red
lightning in the controls there.Yeah, I it's a little blurry in
there. I love this song though.
It's real good. The King Caesar song?
Yeah. It's very, very 70s and it

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almost like this is break. I've already holler in the
middle of all this like, why not?
But also kind of feels like a Bond theme.
Yes, yes. In some ways because why not
we're just throwing late 60s, early 70s in a blender.
Phuket is gonna dump some like, whiskey in it and drink it, like
it's a mixed drink. We're all better for it.

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So Mechagodzilla shoots King Caesars with Caesar, with like
lasers, but he can like absorb it through one of his eyes and
shoot it back out. There was other I we took it
does that once there we didn't talk about how like Mecha
Godzilla has gay i-beams, yes, like they're just rainbow
lasered Mecha Godzilla has so much shit going on.

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Alf. Be my beams finger tow missiles
elbow Rockets fucking chest laser.
We ain't even seen the craziest shit yet.
I don't think right? Yeah.
King sees King. Caesar so weird.
So here's the deal, here's the deal.
What's going on with King Caesarsighs?
You fucking ready for this shit boy.
So King Caesar is a Golem. Yeah, this is not a biological

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creature. This is like a magically
animated stone creature. That's not a thing that they
explain to them. Movie.
But there's like design documents all the way through.
They say in the movie that he's made a bronze.
Hmm. It might be bronze.
I just know that he's artificial.
This is like a magically animated bronze creature but his
eyes are like a U-shaped Crystalso it's literally a prism that

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goes through like the the energyis hitting and reflecting
through out the other end. I love that.
That's not. It is it is a U-shaped like
Crystal prism for the the energyto refract through which is just
fucking that risks. Yeah, I also love that like
after he gets up and he's actually walking around, there's

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a moment he liked the dog. Lion design is very present
there. Like it does look like a dude in
a dog suit. So it's like as a furry, I can
appreciate. But man, this suit Tech is, like
way better and 70s, Japan that it is today because his ears at
some point, just Rotate. Oh yeah to attack position.
I love you and you just activated.

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He is he is a muppet of a Kaiju and I love him so much absolute
fucking Muppet. I love this lad.
So yeah, now the boys get captured and they're on the
couch and non bars plotting, basically plotting their escape,
he's like getting his ring and telling me edema to get his pipe

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and King Caesars, like, on the ropes.
But Godzilla manages to show up,just in time, like, emerges from
the water nearby still sparking with energy, like an in the
water sparking Blue, from that lightning storm.
Yeah before we get to that there's just one minor thing I
have to Say about like, like King, Caesar realizes at some
point that he's like, he gets shot with rockets and he's like

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oh that's bad. The finger Rockets are bad,
can't reflect that runs and hides behind a rock and like
peeks out God. This is so again, like they have
recognized, we've gone full men in suits wrestling and they're
just having the most possible fun with that.
Yeah. And like at that point like

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Mechagodzilla like a panel in his chest flips, up in a chest,
being blows up the rock. He's hiding behind.
He just he does like a Looney Tunes, like looks at the Rock
blown up and like huh? The book is for all that the
movie hype, sup King, Caesar andas much as the aliens are
worried about King Caesar. Like the booking is not very

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good here, King Caesars. Yeah, not really ready to take
on Mechagodzilla like King, Caesar would whip ass against
most enemies that Godzilla has had to face but faced with the
fucking rocket robot. Yeah.
I mean like people making comparisons to terminate over
because it's very clear, there is nothing on mechagodzilla's

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mind, except pure death, like compared to some of the other
fights where it's like it goes back and forth, like
Mechagodzilla jams, his hand in King Caesars mouth.
At some point through this wholefight and it's like, oh, he's
going to break a jaw again. He just you're like oh this
motherfucker is Out For Blood, he's just gonna kill them.

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Yeah. Yeah, he's a van with a robot
murder dinosaur made of guns. Like, I don't know how else to
explain this one. He is, it's so good, but yeah,
Godzilla shows up. Yeah.
And at this point, we're kind ofgoing back and forth between the
boys that are trying to blow up the control room in the fight
with Godzilla. So none Barra is like taking his

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ring off and he's like bending it so we can use it to get free
and miyajima takes out his pipe.So God Mechagodzilla fighting
now, King Caesar like gets back up and the Mechagodzilla just
Waits both of them. At the same time, he fucking
turns like the head around one way and the body another is

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like, I can. I'll shoot both of you
motherfuckers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And and Godzilla and King Caesarfor a little bit just each shit.
Yeah. Like there's a point which
someone referenced this as beinglike a reference to Sergio.
Oney. And I can see in my head, the
specific scene, there's and The Good, the Bad and the Ugly,

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there's a scene where there's a war on either side of a bridge.
So that main characters in that,blow the bridge up to get rid of
the soldiers because it takes place during the Civil War or
something long movie, but it's very good.
But there's this part like rightafter they blow up the bridge,
where there is just a cannonade for like two solid minutes and
there's all these really rapid Cuts zooming in and out on
canons and just like everything blowing up, that's in that movie

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and someone said that there's a point.
In this one, we're mechagodzilla's firing
everything at once and they're like, I think that's a tribute
to Leon it like Sergio Leone's like other movies.
And I'm like, yeah, that's that's right there because it's
just it's possible so many like what it reminds quick quick.
What it reminded me of in a lot of ways was Charlotte's least

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favorite thing from some of the early movies which was when they
would have liked the 10-minute shot of just the military
fucking emptying, the the annualbudget, and a monster.
And they were just cut between all the artillery and tanks but
that's it is it is like a different incarnation of that
and I can see where it's like, maybe take this time-honored

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tradition and take some inspiration from elsewhere and
make the glory. That is Mechagodzilla firing
fucking everything. Yeah, that was actually
something I was gonna bring up later, but, yeah, the military
like, the military. Always plays a big part in these
kinds of movies. Like, from most of the Godzilla
movies and the Godzilla, The armies are nowhere to be seen in

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any of this man. They know they ain't got shit.
They gave up this point, it's Godzilla's problem.
You know what fair I think I suspect they'll go into it and
the behind the scenes on this but I suspect that's part of
something else too. But like there's not like other

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than like a couple things that get crushed during this fight
and one building that gets smashed.
The refineries the only scene with like a lot of Miniatures in
it. Yeah.
And that stood out to me but anyways let's finish up the
plot. So Mechagodzilla generates a
field by spinning his head around shit Reds.

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Yeah like Burns Godzilla when hegets close to it.
Don Barbara ends up Breaking Free and he liked apps.
Me achieving a hand on the pipe and then back to the fight
Mechagodzilla. Mike Fiers a full volley?
Yeah. Caesar out Godzilla's bleeding
everywhere. Yeah, towards the end of this

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fight, he loses, its another moment.
One of those moments where it's like, how is this rated G?
He starts losing a lot of blood and then it fires the, like
finger missiles that it fires like it, because it will just
turn its hands. Yeah.
It's like, it doesn't stance. And then the hands, rotate like
a drill like for a second and then it's it's like horizontal
spread and then bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.

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And it's just it's and the last one's yours.
And in this scene where the result of blood there, like,
sticking out of him, like, he's been fucking speared
mechagodzilla's, the most animation, we've dealt with.
It's so like, it's so bloody dude.
Yeah. Like someone said, this, this is
the bloodiest movie, at least ofthe showa era and easily easily

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by a mile. Oh yeah.
Yeah. So Godzilla activates his new
electrical field ability that hepicked up by being like
absorbing. I thought?
This shit is, is that fourth Horseman?
So we have Godzilla doing the victory dance in invasion of the
Astro monster. We have flying in Godzilla vs.

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Hedorah, we have the gravity-defying Dropkick and
Godzilla vs. Megalon.
And now we have Godzilla with a magnetic fucking field.
I'd command God. These movies got fucking weird
and I love it. I love it.
I yeah. I love to there's so many of

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these moments where, like, whoever is in the suit, I don't
know anything about the actor who's in the suit for this, but
he has a lot of personality and there's like there's an earlier
moment where godzilla-like stances up not Mechagodzilla.
That was an earlier one, but like stances up in a weird way
or like tilts his head to look at things.
But in this one, he's like pulling him closer and he

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actually does a moment where he like, let's go and pulls harder.
When Mechagodzilla is like, getting away from the magnet
field, like he's pulling Then with a robe.
Yeah, yeah. That's like some superhero shit
with the hand. He's doing a Magneto like yeah.
Oh good because like everything around him starts.
Getting pulled in by the field. Like yeah there's they felt

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Circle towers and everything. Yeah, the like towers for like
high power power lines, just like a power Slam against his
chest. The I'm not going to call it the
Power Tower because of the previous episode, okay?
Oh, but yeah, the power lines, get pulled in mechagodzilla's,
getting pulled in and it tries to escape but like can't can't

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escape, Godzilla's field. Yeah, tries to fly away and
Godzilla's probably just too fucking heavy.
Yeah. Miyajima basically just
instruction on Barra to throw, half his pipe on this side of
the control panel and then you know, the other one on the other
half and Godzilla back to the fight.

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Yeah. Godzilla's holding Mechagodzilla
and Caesar does like the only damage that it does in the
entire movie and like body slamming into it repeatedly.
Yeah it's just fucking rest. Its we're back for a moment
briefly to the Glorious wrestling earlier like I think I
have to agree at first I'm like no that's not the case.
But yeah. Like Caesar would have on his

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own lost a Mechagodzilla becausethere's another We're earlier in
the fight. Like Mechagodzilla fires, his
rainbow gay, laser eyes and KingJesus.
Like reflects it back and like, a cold motherfucker.
Mechagodzilla just sort of Step sideways and lets the beam go by
him, and it's like, oh yeah, you're fucked.

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But yeah, yeah, again, the booking was not very good until
Godzilla stepped in, Oh God. Yeah, it's like yeah, it's
wrestling terms at this point ofthe only thing that comes to
mind like and Garris is there tobe a jobber clearly like King
sees is a baby face but he hasn't got the goods

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mechagodzilla's. Maybe the best heel in this
whole thing because he's terrified his like this glue.
The reason Mechagodzilla stuck, so heavily in the fandoms mind.
Yeah, yeah, so then Godzilla twists.
Mechagodzilla's had had goes, just clean off.

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This is probably my favorite moment in the whole movie where
it several times. I've had to remember that I was
in public because otherwise I would have just been like, yeah,
fuck yeah. I would have been like jumping
out of my seat, which would havebeen really bad because on the,
what I was watching the Blu-ray cut, I was in a hospital in a
waiting room, so bad. Place to get here that I could

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come at us. Surgery.
This is so it would have been real bad if I just like left up
and started shouting. Sorry it's Godzilla's Rivers
robots fucking head off, who knows?
Maybe they'll be like. Oh fuck.
Yeah. And then they would have thrown
me out the front door of the house.

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So Godzilla, does that? And the aliens are flabbergasted
as you'd expect. So non Bara throws the pipe
pieces. There's like a buzzing sound in
the whole room as the all the Machinery starts shutting down
basically and they have a shootout, the aliens and up, you
know, shooting each other because number I was like using
one for cover. Yeah.

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Like the the league, I the the bond villain who's in charge of
this, like throws one of them off, the control panel after the
head gets ripped off in his. Like, let me do this.
And that's when they throw the bits of the pipe and to borrow.
Does the classic thing of just runs up shoots, one of them,
grabs, one of them shoots, the leader in the throat, as the
leader accidentally shoots his own guy.

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And it's just like, it's the classic like anime, just like
shoots him in the throat and just blood.
Spurts out everywhere. G rated movie, fine and
everybody turns into gorillas. Yeah.
It's good to see people get shotin the throat and turn into
gorillas all the time. It said we all we all Tuesday
night Among Us did not have thatmoment growing up or someone

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shot a man and he turned into a gorilla, So the controls are
sparking, everybody escapes fromthe alien base.
And then it explodes and Godzilla goes back into the
ocean. King, Caesar goes back into the
mountain that and they like encapsulates him and then Nami
puts the statue, back in the hunt for safekeeping.

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And they say that the ancestors are the odds of me.
Family can rest easy now, and that's the end of the movie.
Yep. I have one more, two more points
to touch on before. We're done talking about this.
Very real quick. One of them is Mechagodzilla
like explodes after he has his head ripped off.
Yeah I does as he should and Godzilla just falls in the water

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but we see him get up and do like a victory pose after that
but the sound effect like they show all these little bits
raining down and you can just hear it.
Sounds like coins bouncing off the ground.
Great Foley were it's another, it sounds so good.
It's another one of the moments where like I love the sound
design of this movie. I love this movie so much and

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the other one, is that like the base explodes?
Like, where the, where the, where the gorilla, monkey alien.
Dude, stuffs I'm real not going to work.
It's funny because I'm known forbeing a writer, that's why I
write and I don't speak. No, but the bass like explodes

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extravagantly and this is my final dub vs Sub moment, because
in the subtitled version ecos with them and it's just like,
what? About my dad?
Who's the professor? And in the subversion he says
I'm sure they made it out alive and we do see them run out.
Not too long before it explodes.So they like it's clear that
they could have gotten away, butin the dubbed version it's like

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your father's. Like He says, something along
the lines of just like your father's sacrifice was not in
vain, and it's like, no, what are you doing?
They just sort of decided he died Hong Kong dub like what?
Sure, why not, okay, the type, the titles rolling.
Anyway, they're crunchy, such anunnecessary change.

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Yeah. God, who knows thankfully like
you've had issues in the past with.
I can't say what the American code of this was, but the Hong
Kong Dog Butch. I am increasingly convinced
what? I listen to he's fine it's good.
There's no moments that were like really stand out other than
non bar has like weird one-liners get even weirder but

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I think that works to his benefit as a character long as I
never have to go through. Godzilla's Revenge again.
I've convinced you really made yourself a necromancer and that
is your full after could be the Earth has going to stopped
turning, and you're just going to be sitting there with a USB
drive with that file like if I fear deleting, I really do.

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So one, one, small point of noteabout King Caesar because a lot
and like, a lot of people are going to be confused by this
because he's gone by so many different names.
It was clearly originally intended to be king.
She saw, like, that's what they are saying.

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He is based off she say, like lion dog statues.
Yeah, the, I remember that the American version called him
King, King Caesar Ceaser, and, and, and it was spelled out,
like CSR and I know that The American pronunciation, like

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when people talk about it, like it would vary wildly, whether
people would say Ceaser, or cease our people pronounced a
different ways in the movie, right?
It was not a good American dub eventually Toho settled on King
Caesar as the like and this is arelatively recent as in like

(01:18:50):
2000s on. I think that they basically came
out and we're like, it's King Caesar.
That's the international name. That's what we're going with.
Which is just very interesting. When you can clearly hear them
saying King, she saw and it makes perfect sense as opposed
to Caesar. I don't know where the, the
reference makes sense there. But yeah, but that is, that is

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how we land on that particular name.
King Caesar is not a particularly noteworthy.
Like Godzilla monster though, right?
You know, there's this movie. You take that back.
I love him. I do love him, but he only
appears in this. Movie.
And then makes a relatively short appearance in a much much
later movie in Godzilla final wars.

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So which is why final words is the battle.
Wars' is like, I love final wars.
I'm excited to get to that one in fucking forever.
Yeah, I wish I had signed up formore episodes when I had the
chance. I'm pretty sure I'll book down
now, but if you ever need someone extra, you need somebody
to do research, you decide you're going to do that
latitudes. Ooh, please help me on again.

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Other than that, the like, Godzilla season the same suit
from versus Megalon slightly upgraded.
I think they gave it like bettermore functioning eyes.
You know, Anguirus is the same suit as before, and isn't in for
a long and we've got shhhhht. Yeah, endlessly about
Mechagodzilla, it's just this fucking great design.
It rules, it, it doesn't look atsome points.

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I'm like, this would not make sense as a giant robot, but it
doesn't matter because it's cool.
There's so many features in it like the tops and bottom of its
mouth. Mouth on the inside.
Just had missiles and never uses.
Yeah, the end of the tail. Looks like a fucking rifle never
gets used, but that's fine. It's funny though.
That like the guy who directed Final War said that this movie

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was a big influence on him because as far as I know the
next time, both Anguirus and King Caesar show up, is final
wars. He's just glamorous.
Yes, and and also, like Mechagodzilla, we kind of talked
about like, Mechagodzilla makinga lot of these weird kind of
movements and poses. Godzilla is very intentionally
his movements are designed off of like Kabuki theater.

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So he makes these big exaggerated stances and poses
because that's that's their way of giving him this big large,
artificial sort of movement is these, you know, Big Stiff, you
know, poses that you can recognize from a mile away.
So yeah, I think also too, it works before, it's revealed that

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oh this Godzilla's actually him,that he has very stiff.
Movement. Yes.
And is walking yes because it does give this very mechanical
feeling right after we watch him.
Donkey Punch or kick your ass and then rip his job.
Oh, we have a crazy-ass German title for this movie.

(01:21:45):
So both of you are familiar withthe crazy.
German titles for these movies. We've had some pretty wild ones.
So many references for What's the title?
What's the title in? In Germany.
Um, lots of references to Frankenstein, a couple of weird
references to King Kong, when it's not a Frankenstein.
Sometimes both King Kong Frankenstein, son, right?

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Godzilla versus Megalon was right Kong demons from outer
space. This ready?
Are y'all ready? Like, King Kong monsters from
the depths This one, I saw another one to that was, like,
King Kong vs. Godzilla, but this is a better
way. Yeah.
It's I mean, like I said, there's a couple of weird titles

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usually but the German one is always the most outrageously,
weird as far as the behind the movie stuff.
What was weird was for being such a pivotal and, like, iconic
Godzilla movie, there is so little behind-the-scenes
information. Nation about this movie.

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And what I take from that is, I think this was a pretty
straightforward drama-free production, right?
Foo Coulda had made some money for Touhou with vs.
Gigan and versus Megalon like hehad a proven track record before
and he brought the franchise back into relevance.
So it was like, all right man weyou can take a little more time,

(01:23:10):
a little more much just do the thing he sure did.
Which is yeah this is wild I'm gonna drop a Bombshell on you,
both of you that, I don't think you've noticed up to this point
or talked about up to this point.
I did a bunch of digging into, dude, who could, because I love
the way this movie was shot. I loved the pacing.
And I loved what he did that. He hated shocking.

(01:23:32):
Every Godzilla movie he made, he's been on record like years
of interviews afterwards. He worries.
Like, I don't even want to fucking look at these.
Yeah. Yeah yeah.
Yep. It to the there's a bunch of
quotes in the best quote of his is.
He's just like I don't think a single Godzilla movie after the

(01:23:53):
first one should have been made.The first one was a perfect
film. Yeah.
Which is it's like wild because these movies are so good and I
am actually of the other opinionlike I think they blew their
budget mostly on the costumes because the way a lot of this
has shot, There's no military. There's not a lot of Miniatures.
Other than a set that looks likeit's been used before in like,

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to build for sure. I think that they, this was
probably a limited budget in thegrand scheme of things.
Like Touhou was not going to open the wallet all the way
because they didn't have a lot in the bank, but like they
basically were like, look, man, you know, you, you're going to
get more than we gave you before, find a way to use it
smartly and and Fukuoka and Naka.

(01:24:36):
No, the special effects supervisor.
Were smart and knew how to get the most out of what I mean.
We saw that with the last two, you know, they gave him more
time and more money they were still clearly on a limit.
It does not surprise me to hear that food.
Could, it does not have fond memories of working on Godzilla.
This was Honda's baby and fuuka.Obviously worked at Touhou for a

(01:24:58):
very long time under the studio model and worked there.
I think it would not surprise meif he was working there
primarily because of the people he was working with because he
It have such close ties to Hondabut nobody was happy with what
was going on at Touhou. After Destroy All Monsters.

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Nobody was happy after the dissolution of the studio model.
Yeah. And that's what I think is
because like while the special effects in the big monster stuff
looks great, the like compared to previous movies especially
like I contrast this with like abeer.
Yeah. Or you've got that one scene.
Got him. And remember this, right?

(01:25:40):
We're all of them are like, trying to wake up Mothra or
whatever, and there's just tons of extras.
There is at any point that isn'tlike a scene that's like shot in
a place where there would be a lot of people.
There are maybe 15 people in front of the camera in this
movie. At any given time.
There's no military stuff, everything is shot real close
day for night stuff. There's a bunch of stuff in this

(01:26:01):
where it's just like this movie was made really, really cheaply.
And really, really efficacy which makes me think that most
of the budget went to this like The big stuff because a lot of
the small stuff speaks to me of movies that are made on a lesser
budget and made to be very, verytight.
And I wonder if the reason there's not a lot of notes on
this is because there weren't a lot of people involved with it

(01:26:22):
and it was a very straightforward shooting.
I wonder if at this point, like fuuka does making the film he
wants to make and sticking the Godzilla stuff in it so he can
get out. Yeah, I mean you know what I
mean? Again like it's clear that this
Honda himself like, clearly madethe best out of Touhou is a

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studio wanting to, and, and having the ability to continue
Godzilla, whether he wanted to or not and stayed involved to
make the best movies he could. I think Fuqua got involved out
of his shared passion with Hondaand and made the best movies he
could for his employer. And, you know, now that
everything's kind of falling apart now that Godzilla's

(01:27:06):
shambling corpse has gone, several movies past where it was
definitively supposed to end purely for capitalist reasons.
Yeah. I mean, like, it's no surprise
to me. That Phuket is very sour on his
history with Godzilla. I mean, again, Honda left and
Honda, stop making movies. So, you know, and fuck it.

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It does not have a like himself,does not have a lot of credits
after this either. Most of his work after this is
in television from what I could find.
But I think it speaks to him toobecause like this movie,
sometimes all over the place, but the plot is so tight, it's
shot so well and it's clear thateven on like as things are
burning down around him and he'sabout to quit, even when

(01:27:50):
everything's like up against himfor this, he still makes a
fantastic movie. And I think that speaks to his
skills and artists and information 100%, it makes me
want to go look into his other movies because like This is
something where he liked this movie is clearly like his usual
Mo transposed onto Godzilla. I want to find him in his

(01:28:11):
element doing like fucking spy movies.
Yeah. Because they've got it.
I guarantee you they are. I've seen nothing Phuket has
worked on outside of Godzilla atleast not to my knowledge but
like I do want to turn personally and privately like
hunt a couple down and check them out because you know, I
really, I was not expecting to come into season two of Castle

(01:28:33):
Bravo and And get introduced to the new directors, working on
Godzilla and be this excited by the person that broadly took
over from Honda. And yet it's kind of been fast.
There's not a lot of informationabout Phuket out there.
He is in his life is not nearly as chronicled as Hondas, but the

(01:28:55):
man came in quietly under the, you know, in the shadow of Honda
and made some fucking movies. Y'all.
Yeah, that's something I wonder about to is like, Honda, it's
such an iconic figure, that we know a lot about them
internationally. I wonder if there's like four
like stuff. There's a lot about fuka to in
Japan and in, like, in Japanese that just never made it across

(01:29:19):
because he didn't make his big of a certainly possible.
I mean, even a lot of the stuff from Honda, right?
Like, the problem is that a lot of the materials I could get
reference materials that are only in Japanese and are not
like Easily available on the internet and like I'm sure I
could hunt down it. Some library or bookstore, you

(01:29:40):
know if I was it but that's the the danger about stuff that came
from the 40s. 50s 60s is not a lot of it was preserved.
So you know that's that's the sad nature of it is.
I don't think I'll ever know as much about fuka as I would like
to. But fuuka fuuka came in and he
left his fucking Mark on this series with the only They're

(01:30:03):
fucker, who understood the 60s, and the 70s.
Because Honda, I love Honda, butHonda was a man out of time,
right? I think you said in another
episode, just like, Honda doesn't fuck you too, fuck.
Ya forget, it was probably doinglines of cocaine off of any,
like, young person near 100%. If you told me especially with

(01:30:25):
given how Godzilla versus Megalon knows.
If you told me, he was just a bisexual party, legend of the
70s, I would believe you and it's Honda may have had that big
brain but fuku was Daddy Long Dick.
Oh God. But yeah, that's that's where

(01:30:48):
we're at, right? I mean like there's not there's
there's we've given up on. I don't even know why I keep a
social and political messaging section in these fucking notes
anymore because this has has stopped being a thing in any
meaningful sense. They're just making big dude
suit wrestling, but it's entertaining.
Campy big, dude, suit wrestling with a Praising amount of

(01:31:11):
artistry put into it. I mean, I see I saw someone try
to argue that this is like, in 1970, like Okinawa was occupied
a lot longer than Japan. After World, War Two.
I saw a couple people online when I was like, looking for
information, try to argue that like, this movie is supposed to
be a message about how Okinawa and Japan need to work together.

(01:31:31):
Now to like now that they're both like have significantly
less American influence on them to deal with the modern world
and I'm like it's the same thingthat I see.
See, whenever I get home and I see my neighbor's cat in the
window, it's just, oh, Big Stretch.
Yeah, I think sometimes look, man, I'm a big, I am a big
believer in and keeping that third eye open, but like,

(01:31:52):
sometimes you do got to take a nap, right?
And that's a bit much. I mean, not to look I'm not
seeing it. I am obviously a white American
fucking amateur cultural critic.So you know, if there are
Japanese critics and writers whoFind greater meaning in that I

(01:32:12):
defer to them to be fair. I think the people I saw
arguing, it were West White nerds on the internet.
So yeah, it's just scraping for yapping.
And that's not where we're at anymore.
The last time we had meaning wasversus The Smog Monster and the
movie was not subtle about its meaning.

(01:32:33):
So God, I II still just can't believe that like me and a bunch
of other people that was there first.
Exposure to God. So weird Choice.
That's a weird one. I saw it probably at 4 a.m. just
because my friend had it on VHS in a quality that I assume was.
I'm sure I am sure we've got to be wrapping here.

(01:32:56):
We have gone so long and and about such a wonderful movie,
though. I mean, it makes sense because
like, your show is coming to theend of the second season.
This is, and this is a dense movie.
And this Again, the send-off forJune fuka so, you know, yeah, it
really it's not hard. When all of the factors that

(01:33:17):
come at the, I've got a quick thank you say, on this, it's
just like this is such like thisbeing like a much darker movie
than the the past couple makes sense is like everything about
the showa era coming to an end is coming in here.
Fuuka, fuuka does out things arefalling apart.
A Touhou. This is like a real Herald of
the Apocalypse. There is one more movie.

(01:33:38):
Yeah, right. You have one more this season?
This is, this is the like the 26th episode in an anime is
usually about where things end and this is, this is the end of
season 2 and God. I love this movie, but it's a
gut. Yeah, no kidding.
Charlotte you, bet you bet you've been quiet for a few
minutes. You got any final thoughts on

(01:33:58):
this movie or about Phuket as a director.
No, I like him. I don't know.
It was a good movie. I the ending was very Snappy.
It's a Honda style ending in it.Yeah.
I think that's the only thing. It hasn't been that.
Yeah, we honest. Well, all that being said,

(01:34:21):
that's a wrap on this episode. Thank you all so much for
joining us on our journey, so far Andrea, where can people
find you? You know, the worst part of this
ending early, like I had notes Here, I had 30 seconds to talk
about Gojira as a band that named themselves after Godzilla
movies, I had a whole 30 minute rant on how everybody needs to

(01:34:43):
read the comic book Godzilla know Godzilla, Nelson is one of
the best you read Godzilla in hell.
So fucking good. Jesus was only in hell for three
days. Godzilla was in there for five
months. Who do you think I work at a
harder line? We never be said.
But if you ever want to hear me ramble, about literally
everything. There's two places to find me.

(01:35:04):
Mainly on Twitter. It's @k dark. 13k, darks my
love, like labor of love. So that's KD Arc, 13, and if you
don't want to put up with a bunch of queer photo bullshit,
because that's mostly what I usemy Twitter for these days and

(01:35:25):
you want to go somewhere, we're more focused on like my writing
co-host. Just dot org slash K.
Dark is probably the best place to find me and probably going to
appeal to more of your audience then the sort of unhinged
bullshit I spill on Twitter. Yeah.
And you can follow us on Twitterfor however much longer it's a
thing for more of our sparkling personalities.

(01:35:48):
I'm at Derby City, Derek, and I'm at this hero complex.
Normally, I would spell it this episode, but since the next one
is, the last episode that makes worked break the pattern.
And you can follow the show itself at Castle Bravo.
Pod for production updates. Take care everyone.
Castle Bravo is a production of Derek Van Dyke and Charlotte

(01:36:10):
landel. All editing is performed by
Derek Van Dyke. Special thanks to Kiri a Lamont
for our art assets and to David Van Dyke for our theme song
pools of memory. Special thanks to Kiri a Lamont
for our art assets and to David Van Dyke for our theme song
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