Catching Up with Christians: EP 6 - Joey Cunha, CEO and MLB Hitting Consultant - Catching Up With Christians

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's going on, everybody?
Welcome back to another episodeof Catching Up With Christians.
I'm your host, coach McCarty,alongside a close friend of mine
.
We haven't known each other toolong, but it's one of those
friendships that God puts inyour life.
You know they're going to bearound forever.
And my boy, joey?
How are you doing, joey?

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good, how are you doing, man?
Thanks for having me on, Iappreciate it.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Absolutely, man.
It's been an incredible timeknowing you.
If you wouldn't mind just kindof telling people who you are,
what you do and maybe kind ofhow you got there.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, well, first off , I'm a son of God.
All right, let's start there.
But no, yeah, I think I'm a lotof things you know.
I'm a MLB, a hitting consultant, I'm a CEO, I'm a son, I'm a
brother, I'm a best friend.
I'm a lot of things you knowand I tried, you know.

(00:56):
I think in, especially in thecontext of this, is that
reminding all the time.
I think everybody wants to knowabout your worldly, like
accomplishments, and I get asked, asked about them, a ton, and
they want to identify or thoseother things.
But I'm also very, evennowadays, very mindful of how I
define myself and where I givemyself identity.
I think is very huge.

(01:16):
But, yeah, no, I have afacility out here in Las Vegas.
We train players all the wayfrom, you know, nine years old
all the way up to the bigleagues.
You know all the guys you'reseeing on TV and doing the thing
.
And then also, you know, withthat as well, you know we have,
you know we have a membershipand we do, you know, remote

(01:37):
training, we have products.
We train players from acrossthe country, across the world
and other.
You know other countries aswell, you know, and so we've
been really blessed from thatother way.
And so, yeah, we do.
We do a bunch of things and youknow it's been a dream and
prayers that have been answeredto get to here too.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
That's awesome.
Hey, I remember the first timebeing there I already knew you
guys were the real deal.
I was sitting down to this dadand you were working with his
daughter and I was like, okay,so you guys local, where you
from.
They're like no, we flew in, Ithink like from Texas or
something we're just here forlike two lessons and we're
flying back and I'm like dangbro, like he really knows.

(02:20):
You know, it's the type of workand the knowledge that you have
that the lord has gifted youwith, and your passion for the
game and just how you work withthe, with the players, um, male
and female, is just incredibleand and that's a testament to
that right there, like someone'swilling to fly.
Literally they were in town fora day, work with you for like

(02:43):
three hours and then took theplane back.
So to everybody out there, Imean, he really knows his stuff
and, like he said, he workedwith nine-year-olds all the way
up to you know, guys in the bigs.
And I think that reminds us ofbeing that servant leadership,
right, because it's like ifyou're not too big for anybody
and you're not too small, right,you're not too big for anybody

(03:05):
and you're, you're, you're nottoo small, right.
So it's kind of one of thosethings where meeting people
where they're at, regardless oftheir age, and you're passionate
about helping them, you know,hit bombs.
So I think that's prettyincredible man yeah, and and and
and too.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
You know, giving context too, is I.
I want to give you know somecontext too, as well as, like
you know, again, like wewouldn't be able to do
everything that we do withoutlike Cody, for example.
Like Cody, our hittingcoordinator, right, like he
trains, like 98% of all of ourclients.
Now, right, and it's not as youmentioned, right, it's not a
place of like not wanting toserve, I just serve in a

(03:36):
different capacity.
Right, as the business hasgrown, I've served in different
capacities, and one of thosecapacities is making sure that
those nine-year-olds have abuilding that they can come and
hit in, and so that always isdifferent.
Sometimes, I think, where we'recalled to serve, we think it's

(03:59):
going to be that same place allthe time and that same capacity
and that same way, where, inthis season, right, there's a
season for everything.
And again, along with that,right, like, yeah, we do have
groups that come in every day,and Cody, primarily, and Nicole
primarily and Steve primarily,are the ones that are out there,
you know, and as the trainersare in their everyday lives, but
at the same time, like, I'mstill interacting with them,

(04:20):
right, like I have relationshipswith our players.
I have, you know, inside jokes.
I have all these other thingsand while they might not train
intimately with me, um, everysingle day, with every, every
one of our groups, like you said, I do have players, you know
again, that fly across thecountry or do other things and
so, uh, that's just reallychanged over the years and uh,
yeah, just, uh, just contextthere as well, it's like, you

(04:40):
know, there's everything inbetween and there's not one way
to serve.
I said this the other day Ithink you'll like this, dan is a
day at Bible study.
I said I think I think most ofus would like to be exalted like
King David, but would have ahard time being exalted like

(05:01):
Jesus, being exalted like Jesus,and everybody wants to be the
king and have God lift them likethat and in this physical world
and live by our flesh right Oflike, oh, king, sounds so good
Having all this money, havingmultiple wives, having all this,
this, this, all these thingsare amazing, right.
But then Jesus who, again, youknow, lost relationships and

(05:21):
also to a lot of the disciplesthat lost relationships, not
only with their family, theirfriends.
They lost their jobs, they losttheir status, they lost all
these things that were worldlyright that we look at them and
we hold them in high regard now,but at the time, um, people
didn't hold them in high regard.
If anything, they actuallywanted to kill them and most of
them did end up getting killed.
Or, you know, take John theBaptist, for example, who was,

(05:41):
you know, again preparing theway for Jesus in the first place
.
Like my man lost his head, likeyou know, a lot of times we
have this perspective that, likethis service, or like God is to
serve me in this way, to exaltme in this earthly perspective,

(06:02):
right, like you don't need tohave your own facility and I
didn't have my own facility andall these other things, uh, like
I was coaching high schoolbaseball, for I was paying to
coach, you know less than likeyears ago.
You get what I'm saying Like six, seven years ago, like I was
paying so that I could coach,and now people are flying across
the country.
I, you know, we got peopleflying in from Japan, like you
said, right, people flying infrom Japan being here like pro

(06:24):
organizations.
Fly here, sit down with us fora couple hours and fly back to
Japan.
Right, like it's just likethat's crazy, right, but again,
like that's what God can do andI think that that's, you know, a
big piece, and like one of thethings and I'm sorry, dan, I'm
over here going on.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I love it, dude, I can't wait to hear this stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I love it dude, I want you to hear this stuff.
Well, one of the things I'vebeen thinking a lot about David
and this is an insight that Godhelped me with the other night,
so I haven't even said this onour own podcast or anything One
of the things I think isinteresting is how the world saw
David, compared to how God sawDavid, so even his own father,

(07:07):
when they showed up to find thenext king that God said was
going to be the saw David, soeven his own father, right when,
when they showed up to find thenext King, right, that God said
it was going to be the nextKing, when they showed up, david
wasn't even in.
David was out in the field.
You know what I'm saying?
So, so, so, then his own dad.
They're like okay, well, one ofyour son is going to be King,
right, you want to get?
Like, let's go, and he goes, hegoes, he goes.
Oh, he grabs his big, mightyoldest son, right, he's like all

(07:28):
right, it must be this one.
And and he's like no, not thisone goes to the next one.
No, no no, and then the daddoesn't even bring up david.
Yeah, they're sitting there,right.
And then the guy goes well, doyou have any other sons?
And he goes, oh, yeah, david,right.
And then here comes thesmallest dainty, the all this

(07:48):
other thing.
Right, he comes in right and um, and he's like, yeah, like this
is the one, right, this is theone.
So if you think about that andif I can encourage you with
anything, right, like again I,and we'll get into my story,
right of like, I really connectwith that David story is like
the world saw me very differentthan how God saw me and the
reason, everything that makes megreat.

(08:10):
Just like David.
Right, david shows up to givehis brothers lunch.
Right, they're going.
David and Goliath story right,they got both armies on side.
You got one of the greatestwarriors of all time standing
there, goliath Right.
And then you got.
Saul, a conqueror, who'sconquered kingdoms and has all

(08:31):
these other things, right.
And so he's afraid of Goliath,right.
And then you got David rollingup with this little slingshot
whipping that thing around andagain, what made David if it was
the one, that was okay.
So goliath was the biggest, thestrongest, he had this, he had
the stature, he had all theexperience, he had all these

(08:52):
things going from earthly.
Nobody wanted to battle him.
David right with his faith andhim showing him rolling up.
It wasn't.
What made david great was thathe had all these skills and he
was so prepared and all theseother things.
What made David great was God,right.
And so that's where I think, aswell as like I take that into my
own story and I remind myselfof that all the time.

(09:13):
It's like it's not about whatskills I have or all these other
things.
God can take the smallest ofthings and make it into the
greatest of things, right.
And so, um, yeah, just areminder from that way, just
like encouraging, somethingthat's been on my heart lately
is like I really connect thatwith, like David.
It's like again, where we'recalled to serve and all those
other things.
It doesn't matter whatoutwardly it looks like you know

(09:37):
optimistic optimism.
You know optimism and faithbeing different things.
It's not about being optimistic, right?
Like I have faith that God canuse anything, the smallest of
things, the smallest, you know.
Again, it's about him, right.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's not about me you know, I love that, I love that.
So a lot to unpack in thatbecause it's super powerful.
But before we dive into that,give a quick shout out to some
of the you know, the people thathelp you operate the farm.
Man, I know you have somereally great coworkers and, um,
you know, I've had a chance tomeet several of them.
But just give them a quickshout out man, they're they're
incredible and great people.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, no, um, I well, I call us like
a family.
So, like again, I literallyhave had two of my best friends
that I've had for you know, uh,again, taylor, uh, taylor's a
director of ops, like she's beenmy best friend for over 15
years now, right.
So, like, again, she's adirector of ops.
She like first person everybodytalks to when they come in and
she's like you know, the heart,she's the extension of, like

(10:34):
seeing the farm come fromnothing, literally before the
farm, all the way through.
Right, so he just embodies thatso much.
And then, obviously, you know,drell's been with me just for
years now.
And also, you know we metoriginally when we were regional
managers at Planet Fitness,like back in the day.
And you know again our business.
You know, again I wouldn't beable to make decisions, I
wouldn't be able to do majorityof these things that I'm able to

(10:55):
do and I'm able to run aroundand be free just because the
business knowledge and thethings I can lean on for him to
help me, you know, reflect andjust bounce decisions off of
like, hey, is this a good moveright now?
Am I missing things right now?
And then also, too, obviously,faith wise, both of them are
huge.
And then you know Cody, like Isaid, trains 98 percent of all
of our players and, like youknow again, he's, you know, like

(11:17):
a protege, you know like hejust like again, and how the
humbleness of his heart and justwho he is as a person and all
these things like he feeds myfaith.
And then you know again, you gotSteve and Nicole and, like
Steve, you know, came from MLB.
He was the MLB strength coachfor the assistant, a big league
strength coach for the athletics.
So we've known for years ofconsulted the other things and

(11:38):
now he's in house and he's beena major impact here in the last
like six months since we'vehired him.
And then also, too, on top ofthat as well, we got Nicole, who
coached at Nicole Parnell, whocoached at Texas before she came
here and also has done a lot ofother things in the softball
world, and she's just, you know,so great at creating, you know,
just, content and educating andlike getting information out to

(12:00):
people and really help, support, like the whole staff and
everybody, so that we can alsodo our own talents and our own
things.
She has her own giftings, likeshe does things that none of us
can do, right, and and and shejust supports all of us, kind of
like it's a rising tide there.
And also to her skill withslappers and other things.
Right, like me and Cody arelike yo, not our world never
slapped before, not a, not abaseball thing.

(12:22):
She's really again like that'sa passion.
She has her own heart and addsus some depth as well within it.
Right, and so you know, andagain, yeah, I can't.
I can go on and on and on aboutall the other people that have
impacted or worked here at onepoint at Fed or you know, or
work for us off our accountants,our CPAs are, you know, like
all these other people that arein a mix, right, you know my

(12:43):
business partner, right, likeagain, like so deep in his faith
and guides me so much and hasput so much wisdom and maturity
into my faith, and just like howI've walked through business
and helping me make bigdecisions, like again, like we
wouldn't be here and we wouldn'thave what we have without all
of those people for sure.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
That's incredible man , so powerful.
I think a couple of things thatyou hit on there.
One thing that I've always liketurned on myself is like we all
have different gifts, right,like you're aware that people on
your staff like you.
They can elevate, you know,your company, you as a person,
your faith, and I think it's soimportant to the listeners.

(13:22):
It's like who you surroundyourself with is like who you
become and I think like that'syou know people hear that and
they're like, oh, that's cheesy.
But I believe that, like you'retrying to grow in your faith
and you're trying to grow yourbusiness, or you're trying to
become a better person or becomea better leader, whatever the
people who you surround yourselfwith are going to dictate the
way things you know turn out,are going to dictate the way

(13:46):
things you know turn out, and soI think you're a great
testament again to you.
You surround yourself withfaith based individuals.
Um, surround yourself peoplewith amazing experience but
aspirations and desires to wantto help people and want to.
It's not about.
You know, every time I've beenin there, I've never heard one
person be like bro, I know X, yand Z.
That's why I'm like that, youknow, that's all.
It's always like man, I'm justtrying to help the next person.

(14:07):
How can we help this personthat's coming in here?
Can we do this evaluation?
You know you take the nice timeand you're not trying to get to
the next client to make somemore money.
It's you really treat eachindividual you know as they
should, and so I really admirethat about all of you.
That's why I wanted to mess up.
Bring that up, because itreally is special to have a

(14:27):
whole staff, not just one personon staff.
That is really bought into thevision.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
That's helping you grow as an individual, in your
faith and on the business sideof things too so, um, yeah, it's
, it's big for me too, because,broad, brad, dan, you know me,
I'll close this businesstomorrow.
I don't, the business itselfdoesn't mean anything to me in
the sense of that, right, it's atool, it's a pathway, it's

(14:53):
great and all those things, butlike the relationships, and,
again, like I said, like thefamily, like we build a family,
like when I'm away from ourstaff that's why it makes it
hard for me to train, like,leave and go places is because
and I do, I do it a lot right, Itravel a lot Right, but when
I'm away, I'm reminded about howsurrounded I am by the

(15:14):
relationships and by thesepeople that pour into me every
day and how they keep me sharp.
And again, like, uh, it's likethe difference, like the world
values performance overrelationships, right, and like,
again, god's opposite way, likevalue and relationships and
relationships lead to, you know,performance, or whatever your
definition of that is.
And so, again, I feel like I'malready, I've already, you know,

(15:37):
won in the same thing.
Right, it's like I already.
I remind myself all the time ofhow I'm living in a dream and
you know, again, just the peoplethat I have around me every day
.
It's not about the building.
The dream is not the buildingstatus, all these other things,
right, that, a lot of like.
The dream is that, therelationships that I have.
You know what I feel in myheart, right, like you know the

(15:58):
contentment that I have, evenwhile I am chasing things down,
right, I'm not complacent, I'mcontent, right, and I'm out of
worship out of worship.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, Out of out of worship.
Um, I I work hard at a worship,I still try for it out of
worship.
I continue to serve out ofworship all those other things.
So that big difference betweenyou know, like, obviously, um,
contentment and uh andcomplacency, and I think that
that's a big thing as well andlike, and it's a way of, with
God, you can have both.
You can be content while you'restill chasing these other

(16:31):
things.
Now, you know.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
You know, it's like in the Bible, right.
It talks about like you submitto the Lord, he will, you know,
give you the desires of yourheart, right.
And so I think that's it's soimportant in that.
But this is the second timewe've done a podcast together.
I was on his podcast, the Farm.
It was an amazing episode, itwas awesome.

(16:54):
But the reason I mentioned thatwas because you said something
on here that you just said inthat episode, well, which is so
powerful and I think peoplecould really take something from
this said like, if god istelling you to shut the door
tomorrow, and because that's notyour, your will for your life
anymore, you're willing to dothat now.
How many other people out thereare are willing to do that?

(17:17):
And I said this yesterday I wasin young adults group and we're
doing a um head central andwe're doing a series.
Our, our pastor, a young adultpastor, was doing a series on
like relationships, because it'syou know, uh, you know
valentine's day was justhappening and I dropped the
question in there.
That stunned people, becausethis is something I prayed about

(17:37):
like a long time ago.
I heard a sermon and I said Iheard a sermon one time.
I said, and you'll see why Imentioned this if it's in your
will to be single for the restof your life, how would you feel
?
Like, well, what if God tellsyou like you're not meant to
have a family, or you knowyou're, you're meant to serve me
my whole life?
Well, where are you at?
Are you so devoted to God andyour relationship with God, or

(18:01):
do you want these worldly things?
Yeah, I'm not saying that'sgoing to happen for everybody or
anybody necessarily, but Paul,you can go through it.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, for sure, yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
So so my point is saying that is it's the same
thing with your business.
Are you so devoted in yourrelationship with God that
you're willing to sacrificeeverything because it's no
longer his will for your life,or you realize something later
on down the road is where God'scalling you and leading you.
So I'd love for you to unpackthat a little bit.

(18:32):
I know you didn't just wake upone day and be like, oh yeah,
that's the way I believe, what Ibelieve.
How did you get to that point?
That's a really devoted feeling, and to be able to have it's
actually pretty interesting Tome.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
It doesn't feel like devotion To me, it doesn't feel
like a sacrifice.
It feels like common sense.
If that makes sense, right,it's only common because of what
god's done in my heart, if thatmakes sense right.
So you're right.
Like years ago, I could havenever like, I would have never
felt that way.
If I would have said it, itwould have not been real, like

(19:14):
it's not how I really felt, um,where, again, I connect a lot
with david there, where david,at one point, you know, falls
short and he feels separatedfrom God, right, and he tells
God like you can take backeverything you've blessed me
with.
You can have all of this back.
You can be, you can take all myriches.
You can take, you know me as a,you know my kingdom, right, all

(19:37):
the status, like, all thethings that you've given me.
Like you could have it all back, like I just want you, you know
.
And so when, also when Paulmentions later on too, where
he's like I've learned to becontent, um, in any circumstance
, no matter what the externalcircumstance, I've learned to be
content and find um and havepeace and joy and all these

(19:58):
things right, no matter what thecircumstances are right,
because it's an internalcondition, not an out, you know,
internal, uh circumstance Right, internal circumstance right.
So I think for me, like on thesame way, is I because I've
experienced, not just read, andI have grace, and I hope I
encourage you in the same waywithin your relationship with
God, because it would have neverbeen like this if I hadn't
experienced it myself.

(20:19):
I didn't just read about whatGod does, I didn't just hear
about what God does, but I'veexperienced what God does.
And because I've experiencedwhat God has done, I've heard
about what he's done and I'vealso seen.
I've seen what he's done andall that wrapped together and
read about what he's done allaround.

(20:40):
The better I understand who Godis one, the better I understand
who God is one, the better Iunderstand who I am.
And then two on top of that aswell, it detaches me when I know
who I am.
It detaches me from all thethings of this world, which
includes my business.
It also includes the thingsthat we hold closest right, the
things we idolize right.

(21:00):
So, like most people, it's it.
Um, I think we talked about itin our podcast too, which was
getting bamboozled by theblessing right, and that's a
Michael Todd thing right, don'tget bamboozled by the blessing.
And so sometimes, a lot oftimes, we end up God blesses us
with something that we love somuch.
Right, it could be our kids,our family, our job, our

(21:20):
whatever right, something thatwe hold so near and dear our
wife, our, you know what, youknow whatever that is Right, and
we start to hold it so near anddear that we start to put it
above God, and it was somethingthat he blessed us with in the
first place.
Right, and a big one that we dois life right, like pride of
life.
Right, and so we hold onto ourlives.
Right, because we're like God,you can have everything.

(21:42):
The thing when you say again,when you ask yourself go through
the things that are mostimportant in your life, and
would you be willing for God totake them away I'm not saying it
wouldn't be painful, I'm notsaying you know it couldn't be
the same, but would you, if Godasked you for it, could you hand
it to him?
Right, and and if you could it,that's something to start

(22:04):
talking to him about andwrestling about.
Right, because we've started insome way in our heart.
We started to place that abovehim, because we know we know who
God is right, if we know thatGod is for us right.
We know that, we know that heknows.
You know again, he can't lieand he he's faithful and he
comes through on all of hispromises.
Right.
And then we also trust hischaracter and who he is and how
he moves and all those otherthings, and we know that his

(22:27):
ways are higher than ours.
Right Is that when we have thatfaith and all those things
going forward, like whatever heasked of us, right, even when he
asked us to step out of theboat onto the ocean right, right
into the sea, right, and getasked to to him, or he asked us
to take our son to the top ofthe hill, like Abraham, or
whatever.

(22:47):
Right, if you trust God and youhave that devotion, right.
You know that, like you knowagain, it's not.
You don't need to understand,right, and I think I told you
that of my favorite line fromthe matrix that's big for me in
my, in my faith, is is again the, the in the matrix.
At one point you know the, the,the machines are coming to

(23:11):
attack them, right.
And there's the captain.
He's sitting in front of thewisdom council and the wisdom
council is saying, hey, this iswhat we're going to do, and the
captain's like I disagree, Idisagree, I think we should do
this, or this is going to leadus to destruction, all these
other things, right.
And then the wisdom councilcomes back to him and they say
comprehension isn't aprerequisite for cooperation.

(23:34):
My counsel, right, when I havefaith and trust in my counsel, I
don't need to understand tocooperate.
Right, I understand.
I know from a bigger pictureGod, look, my brain's too small,

(23:55):
my consciousness is too small.
I don't have Christconsciousness.
My consciousness is too smallfor him to explain to me, right,
where I can wrap my head aroundGod and what he's doing.
I don't know.
All right, I might get glimpses.
He might bless me with someinsight or a vision or something
like that.
Amazing.
But also too, even if not, Igotta, I gotta be able to trust

(24:17):
what he's doing.
So if he again, the only reasonI have all of this is because
of him, the only reason that allof this is his, I'm just
managing it.
You get what I'm saying, so toto, it's like again, I think
about that.
Pastor Judd said this before,but I've literally thought about
this.
You, you go by, you know, yougo buy your kids some food and

(24:39):
he's sitting in the back, Right,and he and you ask him for a
French fry and you're like no,like kids, like no, you ain't
getting my French fries.
Like, bro, I just bought youthat French fry.
So if, to me, this is God'sbusiness, right.
So?
So when he asked me to closethe door, it's just like, if.
It's just like.
If I told these guys I wasclosing the door, right, they'd

(25:01):
be like, well, it's yourbusiness, you can do whatever
you want with it, right?
So it's like for me in the sameway, right, it's like this
isn't my business.
Like, if anything.
Honestly, he's probably going tolaugh.
He's probably hearing me on theother side of the wall right
now and I'm like you know, it'shard for me because I, a lot of
times, I don't feel that way.

(25:21):
You know what I'm saying Likeand and like I've still had to
have a hard time wrapping myhead.
And not even a hard time.
It's, I think, what a lot ofpeople feel as imposter syndrome
.
For me is separate, as beinglike well, but it's not mine,
right.
Like I didn't deserve this.
Like I didn't.
Yes, I made, I worked and yes, Idid other things, but great.

(25:43):
But there's, there's a lot ofpeople that work.
There's a lot of people thatsacrifice.
There's a lot of people thathave come from deeper and
stronger, even though I didn'thave, I had humble beginnings.
There's people that have muchhumbler beginnings.
Some people are living in Cubaright now and trying to.
You know like, you know what I'msaying.
Like it's just, it's just again.
Along with it, a lot of peoplego like I don't, I don't deserve
anything.
Right, like I deserve, well, Ideserve death.

(26:05):
Right, for for what?
For what?
And the mistakes I've made, andthe spiritual death, all these
other things, god, everythingGod gives me is a blessing.
Right, this is, these are allthings that I'm not entitled to.
This is something that he hasblessed me with, and because of
that I'm willing to give it backto him.
You know what I'm saying, notjust a piece of it either.
Right, like you can have all ofit.
Like, and also, too, I trust itin your hands better than mine,

(26:27):
I trust you.
You know what I'm saying Likeyou got me, you got me, you got
me here in the first place, notthe building.
It's what you did.
In my heart, that's the realblessing.
This building can come and go.
Whatever you can take this, youknow what I'm saying.
It could, covid, you could takethe whole thing right.
What he's done in my heart isthe real blessing.

(26:49):
This is just a physicalrepresentation of his greatness.
That's great, but again, whathe's done in my heart is the
real prize.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
I love that out of my heart is like the real, the
real prize.
You know I love that.
A couple things too.
Like I wanted to touch up onhere was one thing you know, you
, you mentioned, like pastorjudd's message and and remember
in this similar message or acouple weeks, maybe it was the
same message, but let's talkabout when you realize that,
like everything on this earth isis god, then you worry.
You realize why are you worried, why are you fearful?

(27:19):
Because he's going to comethrough, he's the one providing
for you and not at all it mightit might not always be the way
you envision or the way you hope, but he will provide in that
way.
So I think that's an importantthing to remind people.
It's like when you realizenothing on this earth is god's
like.
I mean, nothing on your earthis yours and it's all god's like
.
If you believe in jesus Ishould say I should rephrase

(27:41):
that all together if you are afollower of jesus and you
believe in god and you submityour life, therefore you believe
everything is god's, then thatshould just lift the ultimate
burden off and you'd be like youknow what?
Why am I stressing about thesecertain things?
Because god will provide um,and I think that's such an
important aspect.
You know um, to to really wrapyour head around and um.

(28:02):
Another thing I wanted tomention, too, is just talk a
little bit about.
You know, if you wouldn't mindjust talking a little bit about,
uh, what exactly you guys do atthe farm.
If anybody doesn't really know,I'm sure a handful of the
listeners will just kind of,what is the farm?
Um, and then just talk about,uh, spiral that into.
You guys are outwardlychristian, like you.

(28:24):
You post on the farm pagefaith-based content.
You are a development uh,baseball development facility.
I'll let you dive in morespecifically on what.
But you navigate this scenewhile still being outward about
your faith.
How do other?
This is a multifaceted question, but are other facilities or

(28:46):
organizations don't mess withyou because of that?
Do you have people that kind ofare like the worldly
perspective or what is it likenavigating a business?

Speaker 2 (28:58):
but being so outward about your faith.
Yeah, no, yeah, I mean I thinkjust kind of, you know, starting
from the get-go is right.
It's like, again, we, we trainright we, we, we train at like
not we, we obviously haveprivate sessions.
We also have group sessions.
We train at like not we, weobviously have private sessions,

(29:18):
we also have group sessions.
We also do.
Primarily, we just do hittingright.
We also have strength, obviouslyas well, and then also on top
of that as well, like again, wehave products and we have
consulting services that weoffer the MLB organizations and,
you know, colleges around thenation, and you know we have
remote training and we have, uh,I'm going through all the all

(29:40):
these things that we do, right,All these things that that come
along with it.
But again, these are all justtools to reach people, like it's
not um, and, and to help peopleand to serve people Like it's
not, it's not necessarily um,you know it's, it's something
that we do, and at the business.
Every year, those things havechanged.
We do, we do podcasts, we doall these different things where
we just serve and get outinformation and and, and you

(30:02):
know, and and and just try tohelp With.
That being said, though, is,like you said, there's a lot of
people in the space that dosimilar.
You know that rundown similarpaths are in the same industry,
or things like that as well, andyou know you're right, like,
again, a lot of people are evenworried.
I think even, too, we've evenhad internal business

(30:23):
conversations when the businesswas coming up as well.
Right, like, there's been timeswhere there've been
disagreements, just even, too,from like you know, like a
founding, you know agree, youknow, like, again, like
understanding between, likefounders.
Right, like, do we talk aboutfaith or do we not?
Like you know is, is this, dothey need to be kept separate?
Right, and the business isabout this, and like, okay, we

(30:45):
can just talk about this on yourown page, but, like the, the
company itself doesn't representthis and all those things,
which is also different.
And also, too, just to put somemore pressure on my boy,
Jarrell, cause he's working onit right now we have clothing
that's coming out, that's goingto be talking, you know, like
god, you know apparel, likestreetwear, and like things are
the things that we're going topush from that side and that
makes you toddler size like arocket.
I got you boy, and uh, we alsothink.

(31:09):
I think I'm going to get somefor tank too.
You know, I'm saying that's ourgoal.
We're going to run around I canfit in, still be good yeah,
you're a buddy for that um, butno, yeah, so then, um, um, yeah,
so that's been um.
You know, again, like we arevery outward, obviously, as you
know, like you said, I I postcontent that literally is like I
I literally have content fromlike the chosen that I've posted

(31:31):
I mean I've, I've it's not just, you know, just an audio or
other things.
Like I've, obviously, you know,even on my, my twitter like I'm
talking about god, I've gone,I've written threads about god.
I've done other, you know, evenon my, my Twitter like I'm I'm
talking about God, I've gone,I've written threads about God,
I've done other things.
You know about that stuff.
And very outward in that sameway For me, I think it's
interesting and I don't want todiscourage anyone that isn't so
extroverted like I am, like I'mvery like, I have no problem,

(31:54):
like sharing and a lot of that.
And it's been a life.
Like you know, I'm very outwardwhen I process.
I'm very outward with a lot ofthat Right, but I also don't
think that you don't need to belike that Right To be very
faithful to God, right, and sofor me, I think it would be very
unauthentic to be so outwardwith everything else, but then

(32:18):
my faith I'm quiet about.
You know what I'm saying, right, so, so, so for me, like it's
like, and also, too, to be fair,from what God's done in my life
, how could I not talk about him?
Like I, just I don't know Iliterally somebody asked me one
time like I sat down, I was at alunch and they asked me and
they're like man, like you know,like you talk about, like you

(32:39):
talk about God a lot, um, andthey weren't a believer, right,
and they were like you, you know, you talk about God a lot.
And I was like well, you talkabout your husband a lot.
You know, you talk about yourbrother a lot.
You talk about your family alot, you talk about your.
And then also too, I think alot of times people miss that,
like a lot of people talk abouttheir God.

(32:59):
Quote unquote right when I wasjust reading Galatians last
night, where he's talking about,like you know, the gods you
serve that are not real gods.
Right, it's just like again andnot to be so controversial, but
my point is is that everybody,unknowingly or knowingly, is
talking about what they believein and their foundation by how
they live their life, what theybelieve in and their foundation

(33:22):
by how they live their life andhow they present it.
Right, I'm just doing the samething.
It just happens to may possiblynot be aligned with yours, and
or maybe it is, and that's cooltoo, right, but it's not about
like it's not.
I'm not worried about and thiswas a big one that helped me a
lot too is I only have anaudience of one, like God's my
audience, like I, it it.
It doesn't really every singleperson that saw the video didn't

(33:47):
like it, right, and I pray Godthat I have this faith and that
if ever happened, right, that Iwould still on the same side of
that right, continue over andover again right To, to, to take
those steps forward and be likemy relationship with him, right
.
So I think that that's a bigthing for me and like, yeah,
you're right.
Like, there's been plenty oftimes where I've obviously
posted and people have not likedit.

(34:08):
I've talked to our staff aboutbefore too.
Our growth as a company attimes has stuttered.
I feel like, again, I've lostfollowers.
I've done other things becauseI'm especially when times when
I'm talking about God a lot, um,I can see follower accounts go
up and down and also too, but Idon't want to paint this problem
either where, like, companiesare like oh well, see, this is

(34:29):
why we don't talk about faith,like, okay, hold, on other side
of this, the other side of thisis what it's done for our
business too.
On the other side, right, andthis is what I mean.
Not because, um, not becauselike, oh, we found this niche.
And I know some people thinklike business-wise, like oh,
it's this niche, and likereligious and all these things.
Like no, no, no, no, because ofthat, what it's done to our

(34:52):
staff, what it's done to how wecoach, what it's done to our
hearts, what it's done from likewhat's important to us as a
company, what our culture islike, how we are our athletes
see all of our posts and so thatopens up and plant seeds in
their heart and make surequestions about what you posted

(35:14):
this right, Like Cody's postingthis and Nicole's posting this,
and we're doing podcasts aboutfaith and we're doing all these
things and I thought about doinga separate podcast just about
God.
Right, and I said, no, we'regoing to do it inside of our
podcast, we'll call them justfaith episodes.
But no, they're in there, right, like it's all intermeshed.
And if I really want to helpyou be successful and I, if I

(35:36):
really want you to have thefoundation of where I coach from
, and you want to duplicateresults and the things that
we've had, if I took God out ofit, I don't even know what I'm
talking to you about.
You know, like, like I, itdoesn't, it doesn't matter.
You could be Goliath, right,like you could be all of the

(35:56):
other things Like great, Like wetalked about, like you could be
all that stuff, but again, likeit's like telling david's story
and taking god out of it, it'sjust, it's just that you're
missing such the biggest part ofthe story, right?
So I think that that's the bigthing for me is like when we're
doing that, right, and I'mcoaching, it's not about that,
just these x's and o's and oh,like you know, just do this,

(36:18):
just do this, and all of asudden, this guy's gonna get
results, like, no, a big part ofhow we get results is the
relationships that we have withathletes and what we developed,
and also to teaching them how toperform at a really high level.
And it's not just how I move is, yes, that's a big piece of it,
but also, too, how I move isalso connected to what's going
on in my spiritual life,what's's going on in my mental

(36:38):
life, like all of these thingsinterwrapping Right.
So I think that's a big thing.
Is like we do with athletes islike, look like even the best in
the world struggle, even theeven you know again, you could
be making $30 million a year.
You could be making, you couldbe making, you know, $0 a year.

(37:02):
No-transcript.
It's like, yeah, and also too,I just for me personally, uh,
being authentic is like reallyimportant to me.
It's like for my heart, whenI'm not being authentic and I'm
like hiding parts of me orwhatever that is, and I can you
know, obviously my relationshipwith God like just wouldn't be
possible.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Amen.
I love that.
A couple of things I wanted tomention for the listeners is,
like you know, romans 1 16, myfavorite Bible verse, right,
it's like.
Well, I'm not ashamed of thegospel, right, so like to me,
it's like if, like you said, ifyou're being outward about
everything else but not yourfaith, then are you really
unashamed?
Are you really, you know,believe what you believe?
And I'm in, you know, a ministrycourse right now to get my

(37:43):
certificate in ministry, and wewatched this video that I
watched years ago, but it's fromPenn and Teller.
I believe it was Penn and it'sabout this story, basically how
I don't know if people know this, but Penn's a pretty strong
atheist.
I don't know if people knowthis, but Penn's a pretty strong
atheist and it's basically astory about one of his shows.
He was handed a little Bible.

(38:05):
It was a tiny Bible and itbasically goes on this little
rant and he says like, althoughI don't believe in God, he said
I admired that person giving methis and taught me.
That person giving me this andtaught me because he said, if
you believe something so strong,if you believe people aren't
going to be saved and have apossibility of these things

(38:26):
happening right of, of going tohell or whatever you believe,
then why aren't you going tospread the news like what?
That makes you even worse of aperson than someone who doesn't
believe anything at all so thatcan make it be hard, because
I've never been the personThey'll really shove my faith
down people's throats and Iprobably never will be.

(38:48):
But I have become more open andidentifying who I am in Christ,
because I do care about peopleand I want them to to experience
the same love that I'veexperienced through Jesus Christ
.
And it's like, therefore, youhave to be bold and let people
know the good news, and I thinkthat really opened my eyes
because it's like, if you reallybelieve it and you really read

(39:09):
the word and what the word says,we need to do a better job of
going outwardly about that,right, and it kind of goes on to
what you're saying and aboutyour company.
It's like that's really who youare business and who you if, if
you believe your business isgod's, therefore, it should be
wrapped together and and it isclearly with you all, which is,

(39:32):
which is awesome.
Um, and I mean they're, for thelisteners that don't know this
like they have a gratitude wall.
You know, I know, uh, they'reinside their, their building as
well, as sometimes when guys andgals come in, they don't even
get hit.
If they're really strugglingwith something spiritually,
emotionally, whatever, they'lljust sit there and chat, make
sure, in the right frame of mindto really attack that day.

(39:53):
So I think that's so importantto the listeners.
Guys, it's like you don'tnecessarily need to get caught
up.
You don't need to get caught upin what the world, these things
, go after, what you believe,live by it and and god
ultimately will, you know, uh,reward you.
You know a lot in the long run,with eternal life and all these
other amazing things that weget by being a follower of jesus

(40:15):
.
But it starts with giving backand living our true selves
through j Christ we callourselves followers of Jesus.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, amen, yeah, no, I.
And I think the other thing forme is like, like you said,
there's so many times I can'ttell you how many nights, and
the staff knows this too becausethere's so many nights where
I'm just on the phone with oneof our athletes and I'm talking
to him.
I just the other night I wastalking to one of our athletes
for like three hours on thephone and just talking about,
like, what's going on in theirlife and mentoring and and I, I,

(40:49):
instead of the difference oflooking at it, like you said,
like hitting somebody over thehead with the Bible, which is
like more in my head, thedistinction between sharing your
faith and hitting somebody overthe head with your Bible.
Right Is like turn or burn.
Right, like you know, like cometo God or you're going to, and
like just like repent for yoursin.
Right, like like this, thatthat kind of approach right,
which is like guilt, shame,condemnation, and like trying to

(41:10):
shame people to come to God,comparatively to, I think, god's
way.
Right.
And also, sharing the good newsright If it doesn't sound like
the good news.
Right, sharing the good news.
Right.
If it doesn't sound like thegood news, right.
Good news right.
That is probably not the goodnews, cause this is for me.
It's more from a place, and Ilove this analogy I've heard
this before is, like yo, I'mjust one beggar that knows where

(41:31):
the food is and I'm just tryingto help you.
You know, like yo, if I comearound the corner and you're
over here starving for food andI know that there's food around
the corner that feeds me everyday and all these things like I,
it's not about me and I don'tneed you to believe for me.
I don't need like yo, I'm goingto keep going back and get my
food.
We good.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
I'm saying I'm going to live.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
I'm just telling you, like yo, if you go around the
corner, take a left at the light, go past the stop sign in the
tree, the guy sitting over there, he gonna give you some food.
You know what I'm saying.
Like it was like so, likethat's kind of more how I feel
when I'm sharing the gospel.
It's like I'm not, like I don'tneed you to believe, right, I
don't, I don't, I don't need youto interact, like again my but,
but I will also say this too toalso encourage somebody.

(42:23):
I can't tell you how many timesthat one or three or four people
or whatever, will write me andbe like man, I really needed to
hear that right now.
Or I can't tell you how manypeople I mean I'm like I'll
start crying if I start talkingabout, like the stories that
I've heard of people, likelistening to certain things that
I've shared, because this isthe problem.

(42:44):
This is a problem, like, again,like I know people that were
going to take their lives thatyou know, like, like just just
crazy things, right, that that,again, along with it, you don't
know how God is using whatyou're doing and also, too, this
tears away the stereotype, orthe world's flip on its head
it's.
We do all these things forviews and likes and shares and
all these other things.
Okay, but how much is that oneperson's life worth that?

(43:09):
listened to what you said thatsaved their life, right, that
saved their life.
Or again, save them fromhurting somebody else or save
them from you know, whateverthat is.
How much is that worth for youjust to have a little bit of
courage, to have a little bit ofboldness, to just share right,
which, again, you're notpointing to yourself saying,
look how great I am, you'repointing to Jesus and be like yo

(43:31):
.
Let me just tell you about whathe did for me, right and so,
and so when you, when you dothat, um, I think it's a very
different heart condition.
And like I'm not so worriedabout if someone reaches out and
they're really upset that Isaid something about God and
they're like you know you're,you know you're sky daddy or

(43:53):
whatever, whatever, you knowyou're, whatever, right, like I.
Again, it's also just anotheropportunity for me to show them
radical grace or radical love orone of those things, right, and
so, yeah, I think it deepens myfaith when I realize how far
other people and how far God hasbrought me with him.

(44:14):
So, yeah, I just think it'sanother thing, it's just another
way to repurpose.
A lot of people are thinkingabout oh, I'm doing'm doing this
because, oh, but it doesn't geta bunch of views, it doesn't
get a bunch of likes, it's likethis isn't my most popular post
or whatever, and it's like Idon't only post about god, right
, like, yeah, I, yeah I'm veryoutward with my faith compared
to other people, but also, too,like I feel like in in general,

(44:37):
like if you're actually sittingaround here like majority,
there's so many companies likeit might, I talk about God
constantly throughout my entireday, and so, like it's not like
something that like comes up andit's like, oh, I didn't know
you were a Christian, likeyou're not going to be around me
and not like you know, knowthat.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
It's just like yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
So so I think that's the thing as well.
It's like you know, again, wedo do Bible studies, I do my
lives, I do other stuff, likeyou know, with that as well, but
also too like I'm also notgoing to sit here and paint this
, like you know, like that stufffeeds me too right.
Like talking about God feeds myheart, like sharing God's word,
being in his word, serving hispeople, all that stuff like that
serves me too.

(45:15):
It's not just this purelyunselfish thing, like no,
selfishly, like yo, it heals myheart.
So I love sharing and helpingother people.
I see somebody suffering overthere and they need some food
and I help them go get some food.
Yes, like, while it did servethem, like it also spiritually
served me.
You know, I think about thatall the time too as well.

(45:39):
It's like like when you know inBible it says you know, it's
much better to give than receiveRight, and I, I think the same
thing with that right.
It's like spiritual.
A lot of times the other personis getting the material
blessing, like the physicalthing, but for me it's getting
me a spiritual blessing.
Which the spiritual blessing isis and I cause you mentioned

(46:01):
something earlier where you'retalking about like God blessing
you with like eternal life andall those things, which
obviously is the Omega rightfrom the other side like forever
and always is a long time.
Forever and always is a longtime.
Okay, like you know, um, soeternity is forever Right, and
so if that's the case, it's huge.
But also I don't want to runpast that in this life, right

(46:25):
when you are right now, thespiritual blessings and the
gratitude and what God hasgifted me with spiritually, and
the peace and the joy and allthat I have in my heart, I'm not
waiting, I'm waiting for heaven.
I'm not waiting, I'm waitingfor heaven.
I'm waiting for heaven to havethat peer in all the time and
never have any doubt and neverhave any fault in all those
other things and beinterconnected with God.

(46:46):
And like, I'm waiting, listen,I tell, I tell Drell all the
time.
I think it's right now I'm readyto rock.
But at the same time I don'twant to run past that.
You know they're just.
There's good news here that itis not just waiting and
suffering this entire life andyou know again, there's nothing
you know to be found here andI'm just waiting to die and go

(47:09):
to heaven.
Like, no, you know what I'msaying.
Like, like I, I do, I findpurpose in my life.
Here I find purpose and, like I, I'm not waiting to die.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Right, you know what I'm saying, like I got work to
do here.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
He's giving me a breath here, right, if I have a
breath, he oh, let me tell.
Oh, dan, let me tell you thisstory real quick.
So last night in Bible study,last night in Bible study, one
of our guys that works, um, whohas had addiction problems and
all of this stuff, right, he'sworking at a call center that
sets up for people that aregoing into surgeries, and so

(47:47):
they this lady was getting astent put in her heart, but
after she gets out of thesurgery that I think she's doing
today, which we should bothpray for her is after she gets
out of this surgery today, she'sgoing immediately to hospice
and is going to die in the nextfive months.
So story doesn't end there,right, she's a believer and on

(48:10):
the call she was so calm and wasso like all these things.
But this is what she said whenthey asked her like why are you
so calm, all these other things?
She says she has no idea thathe's a believer.
And on the other side of thecall, like she, she's actually
talking to one of the otherco-workers and she tells the
co-workers well, the reason hehasn't taken me yet I'm, I'm

(48:32):
looking forward to hospicebecause that means he has work
for me to do.
There there's people for me tosay oh man, I was like, so you
going into hospice, which?
Is knowing that you are goingto die, right this is the last
stages before you're going todie, she says.
Even in hospice I have purpose.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Man, that is real.
Yeah, I was like.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
I was like whoo, I was like man if she can have
purpose in hospice.
I can have purpose out here,that's all I'm saying.
Man, I gotta have purpose outhere so, dude, that is a
powerful way to wrap that littlesegment up right there yeah,
and think of and think and thinkabout that right, think about
that, that powerful love, hopeand all of that spread from

(49:24):
someone I have no idea.
I don't even know her name Dan Idon't even know her name Dan,
but I know God who's workedthrough her, who went through a
coworker who then connected withthe Bible study member, who
then the Bible study member toldme now I'm saying it on a
podcast and we're sharing it outthe thing is like that's the
power of God and that's thepower of his hope and his and

(49:46):
his love and his mercy and hisjoy and his grace.
And so that's radical from theopposite side, and so I think
about that as well.
It's like, it's like man, likethe, the faith right that that
woman has right and what God hasdone in her heart is moving.
You know, and it's and, andit's, and it's it, it.
It challenges us in a good wayof just saying like, wow, wow,
like that's what radical faith,that's what radical grace and

(50:09):
mercy and love for others lookslike.
You know, oh, I love that.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
So I want to ask you to dive in a little deeper about
one more question, kind of onthe the uh, business side and
your faith-based side.
I think you can give some greatinsight for the people listening
.
Like it's not all butterfliesand rainbows.
I'm sure you've lost clients or, like you said, lost followers
or or these types of situations.

(50:33):
How have you overcome thosethings and be at peace with the
way the Lord, like, wants to useyou and I and I know my own
life, like I've.
I'm at that peace in my ownlife where I'm like I've
submitted things, I surrenderthings.
I mean I surrendered myfull-time coaching career so to
to follow what God has for mylife.

(50:55):
So, but to the other peoplelistening, I'd love to hear from
a business owner, to someonewho's outwardly you know about
their faith, like, how are youstill content with maybe
possibly there's pro teams thatdon't want to work with you
because you know maybe they'llbe like, oh, now you're
connected with guy who lovesJesus, or how do you wrestle
with those things and have youlost clients or people in

(51:19):
support because of it?

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Yeah, Well, first of all, the only one I'm worried
about losing is Jesus.
Let's, let's let's put that as afoundation.
Right, like um, as much as Ilove people and as much as I
love um and I want to serve andas much as all of those things
are high priorities to me, myrelationship with God and my

(51:45):
proximity to him and what he'sdone in my heart is always again
, audience of one is, I'velearned, it's not always how I
feel right and I want to be openwith this Not always how I feel
.
There's definitely times andagain, I don't want to say all
this all sunshine and rainbowsand I'm running around, you know
high five and everybody all thetime and I'm in, you know, like
, no, like I take L's.
I take so many L's a day, somany L's a week.

(52:09):
Right, I take more L's.
I think that's one of myfavorite quotes.
Right Is is like uh losersthink winners never lose.
Meanwhile, winners are losingmore than losers have ever tried
.
Right, and I think it's thesame thing with it, right, it's
not like, it's not a title, it'snot a like a winner, loser, no,
no, it's, it's the things ofbecause I'm winning, because I'm

(52:31):
willing to lose.
You know, I'm saying I'mwilling to trust god and have
faith that even in my losses,like I think about this, as too
is when I'm giving David somehype today, but like with David,
right and again, because he'sreflecting Jesus's character
here, right, is it's reallyDavid is reflecting when God

(52:53):
calls him a man after his ownheart.
It's not because David doesn'tfall short, it's not because
David is so great.
It's not because David doesn'tfall short.
It's not because David is sogreat.
It's not because David has allthese skills that no one else
has.
It's not because David was thegreatest king to ever live.
It's not because David wasperfect and never sinned and
never continued to sin, evenafter God called him a man after

(53:15):
his own heart, even after Godmade him king, even after God
gave him radical grace and loveand all these other things and
acceptance and forgave Davidover and over and over and over
and over and, over and overagain, what made David a man
after God's own heart was hisfaith that even in his mistakes,
even in his shortcomings, evenin his faults, that God could

(53:39):
use that too to make him great.
And it wasn't about David, hewould do it, it was about God,
and that God is what made himgreat, not about all the things
he had and he possessed and whathe did and his decisions.
That made him great.
God made him great and hisfaith is what God was saying, is
why he was a man after his ownheart, not because he was this

(54:00):
perfect guy or any of thesethings.
Right, and so that story for meis big because and that
reminder with me withinbusinesses I fall short all the
time.
I'm not.
Again someone listens to this.
There's, there's two like likeDan, I'm sure, back the opposite
way.
Like yo, I hurt people everyday.
I say I lose my temper, I, I, I,I'm wrong, I fall short, I, I'm

(54:23):
human, I do things right.
There's people right now thatare mad at me, I'm sure, right,
I'm just.
I promise you and there alwayswill be, to the end of time,
right, um, I've.
There's many things that I'veeither never, you know, um, that
I've never apologized for.
I didn't even know that Iapologize for, or even be should

(54:46):
be forgiven for right.
But that's God's, you know again, that's God's grace, that is
God's love.
Is that, even though I don'tdeserve it, he gives it to me
anyways, even when I don't knowlike it, and and even though I
don't deserve his love, he stillloves me.
Even though I don't deserve hisgrace, he still has grace for
me.
Even though I don't deserve hismercy, he still has mercy for

(55:07):
me, right?
So I think about that all thetime.
Is like when I look into, youknow, business, like in that
same way, is that, while I mightbe losing what people would
consider material or worldlypossessions, like spiritually,
what he's done in my heart ishe's given me endurance, like
he's given me, he's given mecharacter, he's given me

(55:32):
spiritual wisdom that, even whenthe world thinks I'm losing,
just like when the world thoughtJesus was losing.
Right, you're dying.
Well, if you're well, if you'reJesus, if you're God, take
yourself off this cross.
If you're God, call the armiesNow.
If you're God, do this.
This is the.
If you're God, do this miracle.

(55:52):
Just give yourself water, justgive yourself this, all these
other things.
When the world oftentimesperceives and paints you as
someone that is losing, godtypically has a different
perspective.
Right, and what God is callingyou to do.
So, yes, I might be losing afollower and, yes, I might be
losing some money from that onetransaction, or I might be doing

(56:12):
whatever.
Right, I just choose to believe, and that's a big important
part right, is that thatstatement?
I choose to believe.
It's a choice.
I choose to believe that God iswho he says he is.
I choose to believe that he isfaithful.
I choose to believe that he's aman of his promises and that
he's a God that still performsmiracles.

(56:34):
I still choose to believe thathe is omnipresent.
Right, that he is the beginningand the end.
I choose to believe that he iseverything he says he is and
that he will continue to doeverything he has done and
everything he has promised to me.
I choose to believe he'sfaithful when I'm not faithful,
I choose to believe that he canwork in all my situations and
when I fall short, that he canuse that too, and that he's so,

(56:55):
and that he's so big thatthere's nothing I could do.
There's no mistake I could make.
There is nothing that needs God, doesn't need me at all and
doesn't need me to be anythingto do his will, and even in my
brokenness he's so great he'slike the greatest player on the
team.
Right Even when I strike out,he wins the game.

(57:16):
It's just what it is right.
So that's a choice, and aspiritual choice, that even when
my faith is lacking, I tellmyself that all the time is
saying I choose.
I have reasons to doubt God, Ijust choose to not.

Speaker 1 (57:30):

Speaker 2 (57:32):
I have reasons to not have faith, but I choose to
anyways.
Like these are things, theseare things all the time is I
remind myself.
Even when I'm doubting, I justsay God, I choose you today.
I choose you today.
I choose you today.
I choose you today.
God, I choose to do.
I choose you today.
I choose you today.
I choose you today, God, Ichoose to do it your way because
I know better my feelings aredeceitful, my heart is deceitful

(57:54):
, All these other things.
Like I choose your word and whoyou are every day, because you
are the same yesterday as youare today, as you will be
tomorrow, I can't trust myselfand what I'm feeling in the
moment and what I'm seeing withthese eyes or hearing with these
ears.
I trust you more than I trustme and because of that, like I

(58:14):
can lean into even when theworld thinks I'm losing.
Just like when they thoughtJesus, even his own disciples
thought that they were takingthe L.
Meanwhile they had the greatestdub that has ever happened in
the history and whateverhappened right to the end of
time, that is happening and ifthey can happen like that with
Jesus, the world is often goingto think that I'm taking L's

(58:37):
Right, when in meanwhile, thisis actually a setup.
God is setting me up, he'schanging my character, he's
developing my heart, he's doingall these other things Right,
and so I remember that that isthese other things Right.
And so when I remember thatthat is, that is God Right and I
choose him and I do that overand over again, it doesn't
matter.
That's what the difference like.
We talked about the differencebetween optimism and faith.
Right, optimism means I see theslimmer of hope, right, that

(59:01):
like, well, I see this happeningand I have that deal that might
close and that deal that mightclose and that deal, so I have
reason to have hope.
No, no, no, everything could bedark, everything could be
against me, everything could beall those things Like like again
when, when, if you were lookingaround at the time when Jesus
was getting crucified, peopleweren't being very optimistic,

(59:22):
it wasn't very optimistic, therewasn't so optimism in there,
right, like that was againradical faith, that, uh, that
Jesus was displaying in thatmoment.
Right, that that God is gettingwas going to do.
Everything was he said he wasgoing to do and that he, in his
suffering, there was a purposefor his suffering, right?
And so even in my suffering andeven in my losses, and even in

(59:43):
my earthly being and all thesethings, there is purpose, um,
and all of that as well and allthese things.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
There is purpose, um, and all of that as well.
I love that man.
So last two things, as we wrapup here.
Um one thing, I think how doesyour faith differentiate you?
One, maybe as an individual,but as a hitting coach, as a
person in baseball, what, whatmakes you different?
What makes your facilitydifferent?
Because of your faith?

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
oh, uh, I think the I think uh, I'm trying not to cry
, sorry, dan um is, I think Ithink the biggest thing that
differentiates our facility isjust honestly, like our, the
love that we have in ourbuilding, not only for like each

(01:00:30):
other as a staff, but also tolike for our athletes, um, the
grace, the relationships that wehave.
I can't tell you like therelationships, like I'm I am
friends with the players.
That with our players and ourclients.
Like, um, some of my deepestrelationships are with players
that I train and um, the amountof growth that they've given me

(01:00:52):
and the amount of faith, uh,that they've given me, um, and
seeing how God has worked intheir lives and like what
they've said okay, I'm reallytrying not to cry now, sorry,
dan Uh, the the things that uh,god has done um and in like
through, like their lives isobviously dramatically affected
my faith, uh, because, like whenyou love and like you care
about, like your players andthey're going through suffering

(01:01:14):
and it's all those other thingsUm, and then you see God deliver
for them and then also themfind Christ and like I've, like
you know, led players towardsbaptisms and I've done all those
other things Right, is thatlike when you, when you, when

(01:01:50):
you see God, do those things andthen also to with your staff
and you see the relationshipsthat they've built and you see
the, you see what God has donein their lives and all Right,
and we and we continue to submitand surrender to him as well,
because any path that is not hispath is not a.
It's a.
You really get to understand thewords of the Bible.
Come to life is like when I,when I choose God's way, I
receive spiritual life, and whenI do it God's way, I, or when I
don't do it God's way, I feelmyself get pulled into darkness

(01:02:12):
and I see it over again and Isee it in other people's lives
and like where they get ledastray and all those things.
And so I think the biggestthing there as well and if I
could break it down to one thingis just, it's just love, right,
you know, and our facility isjust, it's just different and I
feel blessed because it's likewe're surrounded by that on a
daily basis and I'm kind of theopposite, like I said.

(01:02:34):
That's why I like having reallydeep relationships with our
players is because that's morerewarding than anything is.
They encourage me, even thoughI'm sitting there encouraging
them and pointing them back toJesus.
And it's like when I see Godmoving in their life and I see
how they're responding differentand I see all those other
things, like I'm receiving muchmore than I'm giving.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Yes, sir, I love that .
I love that man Like sopowerful, and it's so.
How do I word this?
It's so apparent when you stepin the building and and he's not
paying me to say this Like ifyou know me bro, like like I'm
not the guy to say this, Like,if you know me, bro, like I
don't Like.
I'm not the guy to blow smokeLike.
That's just not my personality.

(01:03:14):
I've dealt with too much, I'vetalked to too many people, I've
been in different parts of life,god has put me in different
positions.
I'm not one to say something,just to say it.
And from my personal experienceto the audience, it's like when
you're in there, you feel thatlove from from the first person
you you know meet, you knowTaylor, whoever opens the door,
whatever the case may be, youget in there and like exactly,

(01:03:37):
tank bro, he's awesome, likechilling, tries to jump on the
ping pong table and stuff.
You know, like all these things.
It's like you feel that love andyou see what God's, you know,
greatest commandment, right, isyou know numerous, well, several
.
What he mentions in the bibleis just what is god?
God as well, right, it's likewho god is, and so it's like

(01:03:59):
loving is the biggest thing wecan like.
Love your neighbor and and um,I think that's such an amazing
thing.
And so, uh, before we hop offhere, if you wouldn't mind, I
call it like the elevator speechtestimony.
Obviously, my life testimonycould go on for hours if I just
sat here and talked about it,but would you mind giving the
audience kind of a little bit ofyour testimony?

(01:04:21):
I mean, you can go as long asyou want, but yeah, I'd love to
hear that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Um, yeah, I'd love to hear that.
Yeah, no, um, I uh was born, uh, to a Catholic family.
At the time, I was raisedChristian more than Catholic,
though, um, but I was, you know,dedicated when I was a baby,
all those things.
Um, I grew up like we would goon Sundays cause my grandma, you
know my grandma was there andit was like we had to go.

(01:04:48):
It was the family thing, right,so we'd show up halfway through
worship.
You know, like, like you know,we, we were all just there cause
we wanted grandma.
You know we love grandma.
Um, shout out to grandma, youknow, she's the leader of faith
in our entire family.
And, um, you know, I, I didn'thave a strong relationship with
God majority of my life.
Um, I was atheist in highschool.

(01:05:09):
I went the other way.
I was consciously, literallyleading people and like
displaying to them and givingthem facts about all these
reasons of why God was not.
You shouldn't lean on God.
He wasn't real, all these otherthings.
Um, that's why I connect withPaul so much.
Um, as well, um, I guess Ishould say Saul at the time.
Right, I connected with him.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Can I ask real quick why Was there something in your
life that happened?

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
I think it was more about where my family was and
how they thought about thingsand how I learned about it.
And then also, too, I was as Iam now.
I was really into science.
I was really into certainty andI was really into.
I used to say things like youcan't believe the science about

(01:06:00):
why that light's on outside, butnot believe the science of how
they say the world came to.
And then I could throw coals inthat all day now but like, but,
my, my again.
That was more of my heartposture at the time.
And you know, I just I believed.
I think I was much more just,prideful.
My family was very prideful.

(01:06:21):
I was very prideful in my ownefforts and my own choices and
my own decisions, and so for me,it was, my life was very me,
right, it was, it was very me,and it's on me, it's on me, it's
on me, um and I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
And the reason I asked for a book is just because
I've I've met atheists in mylife but I've never met an
atheist that was usually justatheist because they generally
didn't believe.
It's a lot of people just feltlike they've been burned, like
from my perspective.
It's like a lot of people feellike I've been abandoned God
when I did cry out, he wasn'tthere.
Whatever the case may be right,that's my, from my perspective.

(01:07:03):
That's when I see a lot ofpeople are atheists, not just
people straight up, being like Idon't believe or I don't it's,
it's God can't be real, it'd beallowed these things to happen,
type of deal.
So that's why I asked.
Thanks for answering.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
No, no, no, no.
And you're right.
I I my a lot of times.
You mad at someone that youdon't believe in hey, that's
what I say.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
That much, then.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
You obviously believe something or want to, yeah yeah
right, and so, um, and then youknow again, but for me I think
it was just more of a pridething, like I, I had built up a
lot of self-reliance and I hadbuilt up I just didn't know God,
I just didn't, I didn't knowhim, and then I was just going
by, like you know, like that'snot my life experience, like I
make choices, it creates things,like you know.

(01:07:53):
That's like kind of where mybrain was at and also where our
family was Right, and so I thinkthat's also why, like again,
you know, I, I, and then alsotoo, it made a transition into
when I was in college, more oflike I believed in the universe,
more like agnostic kind of.
Like you know, I believed inthe universe, I believe that
there was a higher power.

(01:08:13):
My dad used to say things thatwere biblical principles.
He had strong morals of thingsthat you know again, like our
lie, cheat, don't lie, don'tcheat, don't steal.
So you know, like these morals,these hard things that he was
big on, and then also too, heused to always say things like,
um, everything happens for areason, everything happens for a
reason, right, and these werethings that I believed in, right
, that everything wasinterconnected in some way,

(01:08:36):
right, and so there was someunderlying biblical principles
that I was like I connect with.
I just didn't believe, likeeven to, for this tells you, the
power of his name is, I wouldsay, god, but I had a really
hard time ever saying the wordJesus, and so I would never talk
about Jesus.
And like I was like, even too,when I would talk about the

(01:08:58):
universe, I'd be talking aboutGod.
I'm like, why do?
Why did I just didn't even wantto talk about Jesus, like it's
so funny now.
And when I look back, it's likeI remember not even wanting,
even when I started coming, likecoming and building a
relationship with God, I stillwas like like the Jesus thing is
just it's a battle, right, andit just tells you the power,

(01:09:19):
right, like what's the problem?
It's just a person, right.
If it's just a person like justtalk, like he's still one of
the greatest leaders of all time, right, like we, even if you
didn't believe, right, likeyou'd be, like how can, why
can't you talk about Jesus?
Like why don't you talk abouthim?
Like you talk about him, okay.
Or anybody else that was aphenomenal leader or whatever
it's like.
Why, why can't you speak abouthim?

(01:09:40):
And I think that's just thepower of his name and yeah.
And so I remind myself of thatsometimes and I, I think you
know again, I went throughcollege.
Um, God had a plan.
He used baseball and he used mysuffering of.
I had some really tough when Iwas in college.
Things didn't play out the wayI was like ineligible Cause I
was a three-year transfer fromJUCO.

(01:10:01):
Our recruiting coordinatorswitched schools middle of the
year.
I was a credit shy, somehow,somehow, quote unquote that they
missed sometime before.
It made me have to transferfrom, you know, playing at
division one, which was my dream, and all these other things,
and I had to go to an NAI.
Oh, man, dan, this NAI was aChristian school I didn't even

(01:10:22):
want to go to.
I was like, man, I have to goto chapel.
Man, I have to go to theseother things.
Okay, I'll do it because, uh, Iwent to Sterling college out in
Kansas.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Yeah, so we were ranked like 20 in the nation at
the time.
The school was really good, allthis stuff, right, I'm like,
okay, I can endure God forbaseball.
So then God used me, met mewhere I was at and I started to
get.
Well, first off, there was acouple of things that happened

(01:10:52):
at that school.
I went to a science class,right, because I'm a science guy
.
Yeah, I went to a science classand obviously he's a believer,
and when he starts unwrappingwhy he's a believer even in
science, right, and I'm like,okay, that started to unravel me

(01:11:13):
.
Then I would go.
I had a, I had a, and this isthe thing, this is how God is.
All the glory is.
I've even forgot the teacher'sname.
There was a teacher at Sterling,right, there was a teacher at
Sterling that, um for a, uh,there was a teacher at Sterling
that would let me ask all ofthese questions, right?

(01:11:35):
So this was what would happen,right?
Is the teacher at Sterling?
Um, I would, I would go intothe teacher and I would.
I would.
Class was over, I'd go into hisoffice, right, and I would ask
all these questions when I wasgrowing up and I would bring
anything up about God.
My family would be like don'tquestion God, don't you ever
question.
It was all these other things.
So I think that also built somepride and resentment in me,

(01:11:58):
right.
And so when I started goinginto his office and I'm like,
look man, all right, I'm allokay.
This is what my holdups are onJesus Right, and this is the
first.
This is the my holdups are onJesus Right, and this is the
first.
This is the first thing, right?
So you're telling me that ifHitler at the end of his life
would have gave his life toChrist, that Christ, but
Gandhi's going to hell.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
I can't wrap my head around.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Like I was just looking at itso earthly.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
And so he just allowed me to ask these hard
questions and he had grace andlove and understanding and he
just would just talk to me aboutit and he probably still
doesn't know the impact that hehad on me at that time in my
life.
And then, yeah, and then I hadanother.
I had another teacher there,instructor, that I was telling

(01:12:45):
her I'm like, look like Ibelieve in all this.
I was, you know, have biblicalclasses we had to take and I'm
like, look, I believe in theprinciples, like I think the
Bible, like all these otherthings, right, but I'm like I'm
just not ready to give it to Godyet, like I'm I'll give it to
the universe, like I agree withthe principles, I agree with the
teachings, I agree with thethings.
And then she hit me with youknow, don't worship the creation

(01:13:07):
, but worship the creator.
And like when that and then whenthat happened, that was just a
major.
A major one for me is like thatwas like all this ball started
getting rolling.
My girlfriend at the time waslike in her faith and so like
she was kind of speaking into meand then also on top I was
watching her read her Bible atnight, when I you know come home

(01:13:28):
like okay, like you know, likeit started.
It started that.
And then a big one for me,though, like undoubtedly was a
CS Lewis's book, uh, mereChristianity.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Oh, I love that book.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Yeah, so obviously, if you don't know, cs Lewis was
obviously an atheist right thatwent out to disprove
Christianity and then became aChristian in the process.
And in that book, nearChristianity, he walks through
um, you know, basically unpackshow God unpacked um and
unraveled his unbelief Right andand met him with.
You know again like it was.

(01:14:03):
You know science slash,psychology slash.
You know like God's wisdom,obviously, just, you know his
ways higher than ours and hisunderstanding higher than ours
and like how it worked in hislife.
And you know again, itunraveled so many things for me.
And then all of a sudden, youknow that seed got planted and
it was like God just keptwatering it.
And then you know again like um, and then step by step, right,
I was a regional, I stoppedplaying baseball.

(01:14:25):
I was angry at baseball when Iwas hurt, I was.
Things happened my last yearthere as well.
My shoulder was torn in threeplaces.
I'd been training.
I was very resentful towardsbaseball.
I had a lot of this pain thatwas in me which made me run to
God, right, and so God had aplan that entire time.
And then, um, you know again, Iwas, I went into corporate
America and like try to achieveeverything that I thought that

(01:14:48):
would bring me peace, love, joy,all the things that I was
looking for in God.
And yeah, and then thatobviously didn't work.
I was chasing my tail, I feltall these other ways and so,
yeah, I prayed about it formonths and finally, you know,
one day I went to church and,you know, god, god spoke into me
about like you know, they'retalking about like gifts and how

(01:15:09):
we can serve one another and weall have gifts that God has
given me.
And I went home and I'm like,what gifts did God give me?
What do I got, you know?

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
what I'm saying, what are?

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
my gifts Right and I came across a video on Facebook
of Lou Holtz talking about howGod gifted him to be a God.
You look he takes a village boyhe was chasing me down, yeah,
and so he she chased me down.
And then I was like, okay,step-by-step Right, and these
all seem like there happenedback to back to back to back,

(01:15:37):
but I promise you they were overmonths, over years, over all of
these Right and um, finally,you know, and then I, I've been
praying for I've been prayingfor months, god, what's next for
me?
What's next for me?
What's next for me?
I feel like I'm chasing my tail, god.
I feel like this isn't theplace.
This can't be it.
All these other things.
And um, finally, after that, Iknew it was coaching.

(01:15:57):
I remember that I've beencoaching since I was a sophomore
in high school.
I, how much I loved coaching.
And um, and then I asked God,what can I do for you?
And boom, everything opened up,like floodgates opened up.
I asked the right question andit was like floodgates and like
that was Sunday, monday, Ifigured out how I could break my
lease.
I put my notice in for my job.

(01:16:19):
I called the guy that offeredme for my academy a year prior,
offered me a coaching job, ahigh school coaching job out in
Utah, and he was like, yeah,come work for me.
I'm like, bro, I'm about to be.
You know, I'm a regionalmanager, I have the second most
profitable region in the united,you know, in the world.
You know a plan of fitness islike all these things, like I'm
about to be a director, you knowlike no, I'm not gonna go coach

(01:16:40):
high school baseball.
And then I literally had nomoney put away.
I had all my money, stuff that,like um, moved across the
country back to back to Utah.
Never had lived in Utah beforeit's freezing.
I hate the snow, Dan like allthe things like I'm, like I'm
out, I'm up in the morning 4amdriving Ubers just so I can

(01:17:00):
afford the coach.
Um, again, like paying, I'mpaying more for our equipment
than they're paying me.
I'm not getting paid for stuff.
Like I'm just I'm, I'm, I'mliving in, I'm living in that
coach's basement, you know, toget my life back together.
Like I'm really grinding here,right, people are thinking I'm
crazy, radical, like for Godlike what is going on my mom's

(01:17:20):
crying on the phone.
What are you doing?
Do you ever?
think about your life.
You know like all these thingsare happening and man, like god,
used salt lake, um in so manyways, which is an unexpecting
place as well.
Right, if you know the context.
And so, um, that's where I gavemy life to christ.
I got baptized not from just mydedication that when I was like

(01:17:41):
, I actually got baptized inutah, um, and then next week
baby.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Yeah, and so, yeah, I got baptized.
And then also, um, um, yeah, Igot connected with Donnie Ecker,
which I know.
You know right.
Donnie Ecker was a triple Acoach with the angels at the
time.
Who was the Salt Lake bees, wasout there and then that's got
me into pro ball.
I started shadowing him andwriting reports on guys and
doing all these other things andhe mentored me and then he led

(01:18:09):
me towards my uh, uh a positionout in SoCal at one away
performance and I went out thereand I was the director of
hitting, director of business.
You know, uh, kind of got backinto that world, the private
side, and um, yeah, and thenCOVID hit.
And then, um, you know, again Iwas taking a job with the Cubs
and, like, that job fell through.
I was going to go over there, Iwas going to transition into a

(01:18:30):
hitting coordinator and I cameback to Vegas because COVID was
here and I had no plans ofstaying here.
I was, you know.
You know it's supposed to betwo weeks.
Then it turned into six months,then it turned into, you know,
it turned into, you know, years,right, and you're breaking out,
right.
And then, um, yeah, I had a.

(01:18:50):
I had a random guy message me onTwitter that had 10 followers
and no picture and he just DM meand said, hey, would you train
my son?
And I said, yeah, on zoom, yeah, yeah.
So I started training his sonand he they were hitting in a
barn and I was like, oh, what doyou do?
He's like, oh, you know, I'm asixth generation farmer.
I have, you know, like 30 otherbusinesses, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah blah.
And we hit it off.

(01:19:11):
We built a relationship.
He became a business partner,we opened the building and like
all these things like cametogether.
you know what I'm saying.
And so, yeah, like, and thathappened over years, but I think
, like just in general, right,like that's kind of led us to
where we are today, of all theblessings and like every one of
our staff members have just kindof fell in my lap, like I

(01:19:31):
didn't.
I wasn't out like looking forthem, right.
It's just like in some way, insome approach, like they kind of
fell and like they've been sucha blessing.
I'm in that way, and so everytime we go to hire people, oh my
God, just keep doing that,because it's been working, like
you doing that because it's beenworking like you know, I'm
saying I don't need to go, look,you just send them and land
them on my lap, yeah, yeah, andso that's let it kind of where

(01:19:52):
it is now right.
So I just again I think withthat it's just like obviously
that's the spark notes and eventhat you know it's like my I can
go forever.
But like I, I think that thebig thing is, like you know,
again god's faithful and youknow you do it his way and you
ask him what you can do for himand you serve him like he will
exalt you right, like he willtake care of you spiritually and
all those things.
It doesn't mean that.
It doesn't mean thatfinancially it's always you know

(01:20:12):
you're going to be amillionaire.
It doesn't mean that all butyou'll have what you need.
You have what you need and alsospiritually, what he does in
your life is much bigger thananything material blessings.
That I used to rank way higherthan what he's doing, like
spiritually, with me.
So yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
I love that man.
This is such a powerful story.
It just sounds about when you,when you find out what God's
will is for your life and yousubmit to that.
There's journeys, there's goingto be highs and lows, but you
ride the wave and you just seewhere God leads you, man, and
it's just it's such an amazingstory to anybody out there Like
if God's put something on yourheart.

(01:20:46):
You know, we talked about thisearly on.
It's like there's a differencefrom being content and
complacent and you in thoseseasons from a, from listening
and you can correct me if I'mwrong, but you were also content
with god's love.
Or later, the further you'regetting along in that testimony.
And when you became contentwith god's love, you weren't,

(01:21:08):
you know, uh, thrown off by thecurveballs that you were being
thrown at you.
You were just waiting back andtaking them the other way,
because you were able tounderstand that god's still
moving, where sometimes we often, from what I hear and I I'm
guilty of this early in my faithwalk too it's like, oh yeah,
I'm gonna submit it all.
But then, when times get hard,you're like whoa, whoa, right.
But it's like you still haveaspirations, you still, you're

(01:21:31):
still chasing this right.
You're still god's put on yourheart to coach and impact lives,
which you're putting in thework to do that.
But you're also content whenit's not looking maybe beautiful
at that point, right, maybe notbutterflies and rainbows at
that point.
So it's like you're stillcontent, right, but it doesn't
mean you're complacent, you'restill working through it, you
know, and and that type of stuff.

(01:21:52):
So I think that's reallypowerful.
Um, I really appreciate youbeing on today's episode.
Um, I'd love to give you thechance here to just kind of wrap
up.
If there's anything you want totell the people, maybe a little
bit about, maybe somethingabout yourself, or something
about something you believe in,or a quote.
It all, it all.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
The matter depends on what you want, anything you
want to wrap up with yeah, I'mgonna give, I'm gonna give
pastor jed one more shout out,um, um.
When we start remembering thatpeople are not the problem but
our purpose, it's transformingin our life, when we stop seeing
as people, as obstacles, but westart seeing them as the reason

(01:22:30):
we're here in the first place,and when it, when we start to
love God and love others andagain like God's word is true,
right, and so I think, even withit, like I'm not sitting here
painting like I never, like Isaid that I never had doubts, or
like I'm just always so happyand I'm so, all these other
things like no, like listen,like I get kicked in my teeth

(01:22:51):
every day, like you know whatI'm saying, I get, I have major
losses all the time.
It's not about just sitting onthem, it's not winning the super
bowl and going well, you know,I just like to thank God, you

(01:23:13):
know, and and y' all those,those mountaintops that I just
hit in the spark notes, therewas many valleys.
In between all of those, therewas many doubts, there was much,
there was many times of shameand and and questioning myself
and and you know all of that inbetween, Right and so, uh, I
don't want to paint it.
Like you know, all of that inbetween, right, and so I don't
want to paint it.
Like you know, it was just likeup and up and up and up and up
and up, right, that's just thehighlight reel that you hear,
right, but in reality, like youknow, again, people that have

(01:23:34):
been around, that's why I, likeTaylor, that's been around and
seen a lot of these developmentsin my life she can testament to
that of how many seasons havebeen really difficult, right,
and so that faith has been huge.
It's not just on themountaintops and having that
faith, but, no, I need thatfaith the most in the valleys,
right, and remembering that whatGod told me, um, you're

(01:23:55):
remembering in the dark what Godtold me in the light, right, so
, yeah, so that's just the bigone, uh, the big one for me.
If I could just, you know, putit in again like people are not,
people are not, people are not,uh, our problem, right, they,
you know they are, they are, uh,our purpose amen, man, amen,
it's it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
It reminds me of what I've talked about yesterday on
my video.
It's psalm 23, 4.
Right, even when you walkthrough the valleys, um the
darkest valleys, you know, I uhdon't be afraid, for god is
close beside you and your rodand god's rod and staff will
protect and comfort you.
You know, and I think it's justan important piece to remember
there, because it's like, likeyou said, even when you can have

(01:24:33):
all the faith in the world whenyou're up, but when you're down
, what are you doing?
And so I think that's and Ithink that's where God can even
move.
Even greater is in those youknow lows.
And uh well, awesome man, if youwouldn't mind wrapping us up in
prayer.
No one's done this yet, youknow, so let's.
I'd love for you to close outin prayer, man.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
Cool, yeah, yeah, absolutely, let's do it.
Dearly Father, god, we're justso thankful for God.
We just love you.
We just love you.
We're so thankful for thethings that you've done in our
lives, god.
What you're going to do in ourlives, god, what you're going to
do in our lives, god, help ushave the faith that we will have
tomorrow once you deliver usthrough everything that's going
on in our lives right now.
God, help us cling on to you,help us hold on tight and stay

(01:25:16):
close to you, even when our eyesgo to stray.
God, just continue to stand infront of us, continue to pull us
back to you.
God, continue to performsurgery on our hearts.
Continue to be our friend, god,we need your friendship more
than anything.
God, we don't just need a king,god, we need a friend, and you
call us friend and we're just sothankful that you, in proximity

(01:25:37):
, that you just you even want tobe around us.
God, we don't deserve you, we'renot entitled to you.
You have every reason to walkaway from us and leave us
stranded, and yet you don't.
And God that have every reasonto walk away from us and leave
us stranded, and yet you don't.
And God, that's just yourcharacter and remind us of those
things every single day.
God, and I just um, I just praythat you continue to uh to
bless you, just continue tobless us in ways that we can uh

(01:26:00):
continue to spread your kingdom.
God, I just ask that youcontinue to uh deliver Dan, god,
and that you also bless thispodcast and you bless his
ministry and all the things thatyou do in his life.
God, and I just pray that youyou bless whoever's listening
right now.
God, and hopefully God.
If they've made it this far, ifthey made it all the way to the
prayer, they're searching afteryou.
They want you, and God justjust just bless them in your
heart and and and continue tosee you like you've helped me

(01:26:30):
see you and we just pray allthese things in Jesus' mighty
name.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
Amen, amen.
Man, thanks for tuning intothis banger episode with my boy,
joey.
Really appreciate you tuning in, shout out your platforms, the
farm system right Well, on allplatforms, or sometimes it's
like the farmsystem.
You got all these other likeyou know, different platforms.
What is it man?

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Yeah, yeah, the website is the systemfarm.
Okay, um, everywhere else islike generally the farm system,
but we have a softball account,a baseball account, a strength
account uh, my, my handles areunderscore joey kunya c-u-n-h-a.
Uh, you guys, can you check meout?
I do bible studies on, uh, at 645, uh, uh, pacific time.

(01:27:07):
Um, on thursday, you can alwayscome and hang out with that and
, yeah, yeah, we're out here inVegas.
Hit us up Again.
Any of those things, we'realways available.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
Awesome.
If you need to drop bombs, DMthem all right.
All right, you all.
I'll talk to you guys later.
Catch you in the next episode,Peace.

All Episodes

Catching Up with Christians: EP 6 - Joey Cunha, CEO and MLB Hitting Consultant

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

United States of Kennedy

Stuff You Should Know

Dateline NBC

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Catching Up with Christians: EP 6 - Joey Cunha, CEO and MLB Hitting Consultant