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June 20, 2025 63 mins

Catie and Erik continue their glorious return to Infinite Quest after a Book Break(TM) to discuss the eternal neurodivergent struggle of losing things in plain sight, organizing creative spaces, and why some objects seem to vanish into thin air (spoiler: it might be gnomes).Plus: Questions for neurotypicals, surprise DB Cooper and why triage stations might be the organizing solution you didn't know you needed.


Keywords: (Our marketing guy told us to add this part sorry). ADHD, neurodivergent, organization, executive dysfunction, creative workspace, prop making, crafting, losing things, school supplies trauma, PhD journey, book publishing


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(00:08):
I can't find my new glasses. I put them, I took them off, I
went to sleep. I woke up, they were gone.
And I don't know how to feel about that because that feels
haunted to me. Oh I was, I was actually just
thinking about this so I lost 2.So this apartment has a bunch of
shit in it, but the department that Jenny's just moving into,

(00:28):
it's a new apartment. So it is empty.
There's nothing in it whatsoever.
So there's no nooks and cranniesfor shit to fall in.
And I still misplaced and lost shit, like at the exactly the
same rate. Like, so it's not just about
like, you know, like, yeah, if it's messy, like, yeah, I'm more
likely to lose things. But even in an empty fucking
room, I will still lose shit. So I, I was helping Mike move

(00:49):
out of his office. So naturally every piece of
trash on the ground, I'm asking if I can have it.
And so there was just little doodads and bips and bobs and
they were two little islets and I was like 02 little, but
they're like really strong. And I was just like, these would
be like, that's like $2.00 a popat the hardware store.
Like, can I have it? And he was like, yeah, so I took
him home. I took him home, put him out of
my, took him out of my pocket, put him on this little little

(01:10):
ledge thing like on my counter. And then sometime later I'm
like, oh, I could use those little fucking islet things for
making an instrument thing. And I couldn't find them.
They were gone. Like I could not find them.
And like, there's not really anyshit in this apartment.
They're just gone. That's crazy.
And so at some point it's just amystery.
You're just like, how is it possible that they're gone?

(01:32):
And it's like, how like I need to know just existentially what
happened to them. It's like JD Cooper or something
or like, or, or, or, or the grassy knolls.
It's like dead to history. We'll never know.
So I just decided that I believein little ghosts and ghouls and
stuff now and little, you know, little gnomes that steal stuff.

(01:54):
And when they steal stuff, they do it because they need to.
It's. Very important.
No, you go. Sorry I interrupted you.
No. That's all.
I just figured they have their own, you know, they have their
own little world and their own little gnome problems, little
ghouls problems, you know, and maybe they were like, oh, we had
two islets. Then we had, you know, there's
an evil villain come to take over a little gnome village and

(02:16):
we need 2 islets to save us. And so they took them.
And if they took them, it's because they needed them.
So like I've, I've, I've made mypeace with it.
And then honestly, it's very silly, but it really did help.
It really did help. I was like getting frustrated
and I was like, man, you know what the gnomes, if they took
it, it's because they needed it.That's.
Fine, whoops. Have you ever seen a movie
called The Borrowers? Is that worth like, it's got

(02:39):
Draco Belfoy in it, and they're like little, little people.
Yeah, it's like the entire premise of the of of the
borrowers. This is one of my favorite
stories growing up. And they made it into like,
honestly a pretty decent movie. But it's like little tiny people
and they live in the walls and so they they ought to see like
buttons and shit so they can have like plates and cups and
and like they make. So it's just like these little

(03:01):
tiny people. Yeah, I think you would love it.
Just like on like as like existentially.
I think you would love it. I love like the idea of like
shrunken person and so they haveto use like objects to make, you
know, like like sort of like tiny chef.
You know how his burners are allthe buttons and, or in the, in
the show solar opposites, the wall that's kind of a deep cut,

(03:23):
but like it's really horrifying.There's a group of aliens and
like living on Earth and one of the the daughter alien has this
shrink ray and she just collectspeople and she puts them in her
wall. And but then they like make it
into like a fucking five season epic.
There's a whole society in the wall and it like with political

(03:43):
power, political structures thatget overthrown and like, it's
way better than the actual show.Yeah, it really it's way.
Better, I would take a whole I would take six seasons in a
movie. Of just the waffle, Yeah, I
would. Speaking of six in a movie, also
Annie's boobs from a community, the monkey from community,
Annie's boobs. He was stealing the pens.

(04:05):
He was stealing the stuff. There was that whole episode
about who took the pen. It was Annie's boobs, the
monkey. He lives in the vents and he
would just come out and steal stuff occasionally.
So it could also be Annie's boobs that took those eyelets
too. Hi, everybody.
It's me, Katie Asaurus. Welcome back to another episode
of Infinite Quest. So hey, we're going to lead off

(04:26):
this episode with some business.We're going to be business boys
boobs. Do you want to?
Do you want to break the news orshall I?
Sure, the book pub date? Book publishing date?
Or is it the pub date I'm learning?
So we learned so many cool like publishing leg languages like
Illos ILLO as illustrations. So they don't have time, they're

(04:48):
busy editing, they don't. Have time way busy.
Way too busy. But so the pub date got pushed
from September 2nd to March 3rd,right?
March 3rd. And the reason for that is a
good reason. Nothing went wrong, nothing
happened. It's just basically there were a
bunch of books also coming out at the same time in September
and they didn't want our book toget like buried by.

(05:10):
They. Couldn't tell us what books are
coming out, but apparently some people who are very famous and
big and whatever ever writing some books that are coming at
the same time. And so they wanted to publish
ours when not so many other books were coming out.
So it's more likely to get like noticed in stuff and get on like
those cool lists of like the number one selling whatever in
Milwaukee or whatever it is. So specifically, Milwaukee is

(05:31):
what we're shooting for. Yeah, exactly.
Oh yeah, shout out Milwaukee. So it's it's not a bad thing
like it's it's it's it's good. It's a reasonably in a good
decision that they made to push it back.
But it does mean that the book isn't coming out for six months.
Yeah. And after we thought it was
going to. For yeah and so it's changing up
the kind of like on ramp becausepreviously, what is it?

(05:54):
It's June, so June, July, August, September.
So like right about now is when we would be gearing up for stuff
like the book tour and like promoing and doing all that cool
shit, cool shit. But instead it's not gonna be.
Cool stuff Katie, watch your language.
Also, I thought of something andthen I forgot it, but I just
remembered it again. Wouldn't be so funny if one of

(06:16):
the books that was coming out inSeptember was by Obama, because
then we could be like, thanks Obama.
I just think that would be fine.Yeah, we could actually be.
Like, frankly, I blame Obama. Thanks.
Obama. I blame Obama, dude.
But like the but anyway, so it does mean that like our
schedules are very different than they were.

(06:37):
And so moving into like Decemberis when you're going to start
hearing more stuff about like the book tour and you're going
to start hearing us talk more about like promos and that kind
of stuff. But the book is still available
for pre-order. It is.
They have not stopped that if you pre-ordered it already.
Thank you so much. Shout out to you.
But it'll still be available forpre-order if you want to.

(06:58):
You can order pre-order it on Amazon.
If you want to support a small local bookstore in your area.
You can also check it out on books shop.org.
But yeah, And so in the meantime, and this is the this
is the sort of like big reveal moments.
I am going to be doing a live tour, small, experimental, only

(07:20):
in a couple of places. It's not going to be, we're not
going worldwide yet, but I'm going to be doing a couple of
live shows. So here on the podcast you'll
we'll be talking about that, selling tickets, that kind of
stuff. Also, if you haven't signed up
for my newsletter yet, I starteda newsletter.
You can sign up newsletter.katiosaurus.com.

(07:41):
I also have a spicy newsletter which is the same as the regular
newsletter except with 100%. More boobs. 100% more boobs.
100% more boobs. I can guarantee 100% more boobs.
No it's more for like the sex and intimacy side of stuff.
I just know that some people don't want to see that and I
respect that cause consent is important.
And the only other business boy thing that I have is that if you

(08:03):
haven't been listening to my other podcast, which is called
Sorry I Missed This, unavailableon understood.org, where I talk
about ADHD and its impact on sex, intimacy, relationships and
communication, it's very good. I'm very proud of it.
We're bringing in experts from all over the world, but we're
trying to get to like 100 reviews by the end of the
summer. I think we can do it.

(08:24):
But if you've been listening andyou have five extra minutes in
your day to go leave a review, that would be awesome.
And while you're doing that, if you haven't reviewed Infinite
Quest, feel free to do that too,or make another e-mail address
and review it again. No, that's fraud.
That's fraud. It's hanging.

(08:45):
It's hanging chads of podcast reviews a very topical.
Reference Topical Reference Wow God demon hot topical.
References over here. Topical reference.
Well, you started off with DB Cooper, so get off my Dick.
It's true, it did, but DB Cooperis timeless.
Is DB Cooper a timeless E-mail infinitequest@gmail.com and.

(09:08):
Tell us here tonight. The DB Cooper.
Dude, are you kidding me? This is a neurodivergent
podcast. Everybody who's listening to the
podcast, everybody. You, dear listener in your car
right now. You know about DB Cooper.
Now you're thinking about it andyou're like, shit, I wonder who
the fuck that was. Is that the guy from Dallas?
I'm genuinely asking. No, that was who shot Jr. right?

(09:29):
But who was DB Cooper Genuinely asking, I don't know.
DB Cooper was a guy I'm going to.
Can you like jump out of an airplane?
Brian. Brian, Brian.
Yeah, He jumped out of an airplane, I believe He basically
took an airplane hostage, demanded a bunch of money, got
the money, jumped out of the airplane to like, get away with

(09:51):
it, you know, with a parachute. And he was never seen again.
Do you know what I feel like it probably sounded like when he
jumped onto the airplane? Do.
You think he was like. No, he was like, you know, like
jumping, jumping sounds. I'm thinking of Mario falling

(10:11):
down into an endless pit. Also that it's also apparently
he also wore a suit and. He did the sketch shows.
That he was. Brian says that he was wearing a
suit. DD Cooper, also known as Dan
Cooper, was an unidentified man who hijacked North or Northwest
Orion Airlines flight 3 O 5 in United Space Aerospace on

(10:33):
November 24th, 1971. Very topical reference.
During the flight from Portland OR to Seattle, Cooper total
flight attendee. He had a bomb and demanded
$200,000 in ransom. I guess it was the 70s.
That was like a lot of money in the 70s I guess.
Oh it's a equivalent to 1.6 million in 1.6.

(10:53):
Never mind Siri. 1.6 million and4 parachutes.
Oh, shut up. Siri, you didn't see it
released. The passengers in Seattle
instruct the flight crew to refuel the aircraft and began a
second trip to Mexico City with a refueling stop in Reno, NV.
So like this dude touched down like 4 different times?
That was wild. 30 minutes. Taking off from Seattle, Cooper

(11:15):
opened the aircraft door, deployed the staircase and
parachuted into the night over Southwest Washington.
Cooper's true identity and whereabouts have never been
determined. And then in 1980, so like 10
years later, a small portion of the ransom money was found along
the riverbanks of the Columbia River near Vancouver, WA.
For 45 years after the hijacking, the Federal Bureau of

(11:37):
Investigation maintained an active investigation and built
an extensive file case, but ultimately did not reach any
definitive conclusions. The crime remains the only
documented unsolved case of air piracy in the history of
commercial aviation. Do you know what I have to say
about that? Challenge accepted.
I'm not on a government pirates dude.

(11:57):
I just got TSA pre-check. They can't.
I'm not. I'm on a like.
I'm on the approved list now, soI can't do.
Wow, Air Pirates. I think once this episode comes
out, you're going to get unprechecked.
No, what if that happened? That'd be so funny.
We ever see. Just don't ever go to the
airport in a pirate costume. I've done that before.
Have you really? You don't know this story.

(12:20):
I thought. I literally thought you were
just setting me up. Yeah, no, I really thought you
were just setting me up to tell that story.
Oh no, when the fuck? Were you?
Oh yeah, I got like years ago, the Quad City International
Airport where I grew up, they opened a direct flight from the
Quad Cities to or to Orlando, I think something like that.

(12:42):
And as a as a celebration, they decided that what they needed
was pirates at the airport. And so me and like 3 of my
friends in college got hired to dress up like pirates and go to
the airport and just walk aroundand be pirates.
And everybody was fucking baffled like it was no one liked

(13:03):
it. Everyone was confused.
There was AI have a picture of me in the newspaper.
There's a picture of me literally like yarring with a
little girl like in in the localnewspaper.
You get I you can still see it to this day.
And yeah, and all the patron or all like the, you know, I don't
what do you call them patrons and guests, travelers, whatever.

(13:24):
They were so mad and they were like, what the fuck is this?
And apparently it's because likesome town in Florida is like the
pirate capital of America. And so they were trying to do
like a now you can go to get, gogo to be a pirate quickly or
something. But.

(13:44):
The, the, the weirdest part was that they took us like down like
through the airport, but they took us like onto the like
tarmac where like you are not supposed to be.
And they were like, and so we were just like pirates, like on
the fucking tarmac 'cause they wanted pictures of us like like
shaking our swords at the fucking airplanes.

(14:05):
It was an egregious security violation, but I was literally
dressed like a pirate and that is a true story about my life.
Thank you. Dude, most baffling part about
that story, or like as you like the reveal as you tell the
story, is you weren't just dressed as a pirate at an
airport, which is a story on itsown.
You were paid to be dressed as apirate.

(14:27):
I was, I mean like, yeah, hold on.
I'm trying to find I'm trying tofind a picture.
Going through the anals of of history.
Don't say anals. You're going through the
vaginals. Of history cities.
Come on, that was that. Was that was silly and stupid.
I'm trying to figure out how youfind this picture.
Maybe you just. Got to go.
You got to go to the library andscroll through the microfilm.

(14:49):
I know, right? Oh, cool, cool.
Anyway, I don't need to do straight out.
But yeah, that's a, that's a true thing.
True, true story. Anita, Brian, so badly.
We do. Anita Brian If you would like to
apply to be Brian, e-mail us at at gmail.com.
Because I know, like I, this happens every time we're on the
podcast and I bring something upand I want to look it up is I
get distracted. I, it's like, I'll just totally

(15:11):
forget that we're recording a podcast and I'll just like start
reading the thing. Like I have to force myself to
not do it unless totally necessary, which it always is
because I'm a, I'm a curious boy.
I want to know things. Oh, also on DB Cooper in the in
the television series low key inthe television program made by
Marvel and Disney, Loki, which came out a couple years ago

(15:33):
starring Tom Hiddleston. The sort of joke is that he's
like the time travel and you know, he's he's he's, you know,
because of the TSA and they can fuck with time and stuff like
that. That Loki was DB Cooper.
Like there's a. Scene.
Where it's going down the airplane and it shows him
parachuting and he's got the glasses and the thing and he
plows with a bunch of money and some of the money falls out of

(15:56):
the suitcase. Meaning like, oh, he did get
away with it. It's but that money was
recovered. So it was like it was a deep cut
for fucking DB Cooper fans because it's fucking cool.
It's also the entire premise of the movie without a paddle.
Shout out fucking who's? That I found it.
I'm sorry, I was looking. I did find the picture.
I'm going to link it to you. Are you ready?
I was just vamping on DB Cooper because he's.

(16:18):
Awesome. No, I thought.
I'm going to put it in the in the in the in the Zoom chat.
All Aboard for Florida is the name of the headline.
All aboard Florida, just the people at the gate behind this

(16:39):
looks. So visibly angry they're like,
what the? Fuck, there's one guy on a
phone, on his phone and like talking about there's no chance
that guy's not like yeah, and there's a fucking pirate in
front of me for an inexplicable reason, a reason that has not
been explained to. Me, they were like, I don't it
was like Clearwater or land or something, but it was like

(16:59):
there's a lot of pirates in thisFlorida town.
So there were pirates that ma is.
But yeah, true story about me. Well, you look awesome.
You look like a cool pirate. You have a.
Cool hat. Even before I was a professional
pirate that was. That was just a pirate costume
that I half assed together out of the stuff that I had in like
the trunk of my car. Well, that was the day you
became a professional pirate. Actually, the first time you got

(17:21):
paid to dress up like a pirate because.
Yeah, actually it was my destinyall along.
I didn't. I never thought about that.
That was how you made the change.
We're going to clip this and then I'll I'll pop the picture
up so people can see it. Yeah, we'll make a TikTok out of
it. Make a talk a TikTok talk about
it. What's up with you guys?

(17:43):
I just aggressively changed topics.
I'm sorry I got bored. That's OK.
I nothing much. I there's not really any work at
Funko right now, which sucks, but I don't know how it's
impossible to work in LA be working in LA and also be able
to talk about what you're working on.
That makes sense because everything is under NDA.

(18:04):
But no, the Mike shout out to Michael Corey shout out to props
to history. What up props to history.
He's I mean, he's in the same boat, you know, like we're just
trying to figure out where the work is.
But he met somebody who seems promising.
Cool. He runs a monster shop and so
hopefully. Like haunted houses?

(18:27):
Yeah, like, yeah, well, anybody who needs monster stuff, monster
masks, animatronic. Monster things just.
Monsters. I wanna I.
Wanna like they're making a shitton of monsters right now.
Yeah, it's haunted house season,dog.
Yeah, it is. People are gearing up, so
hopefully pretty soon I'll be making some spooky scary
monsters, which is awesome because something I'm I'm

(18:50):
realizing after you know, my my crafting has always been what
will compulsive. You know, what was just kind of
happens much I could really do about it if I tried, but it's
not it's often not very practiced and methodical.
It's very chaotic and like just fucking right.
So this has been a huge exerciseand like, you know, learning

(19:10):
about things that I don't know, like I don't know that I don't
know certain things, you know, And so the more situations I get
myself into, the more I'm like, oh, acetone is for dissolving
polar solvent, you know, is for is a solvent for polar solutions
or whatever the fuck, like just random weird shit.
And one of the I've realized that one of the biggest like
gaps in my knowledge is in smooth on products basically.

(19:34):
So resin, resin casting, silicone mold, making that kind
of stuff. I'm significantly better at it
now than I was a year ago, but it was like every single day it
would bring up a new term that Inever heard before and I'd be
like, what's that? And I would learn that.
And so if I were to go to Monster Place like I'm
competent, I'd be very useful there, but my learning curve
would just be fucking steep as shit.

(19:56):
I feel like that's exciting. I eat.
Oh yeah, that's where I fucking.Eat.
Yeah, that's where you fucking thrive, my dog.
Yeah, man, my I get taller and more confident.
We it's weird enough like you. Got situation too, by the way,
doing fucking props work. I don't know when I have.
You got fucking Jag. You got Captain America
shoulders now. It's annoying.
Really, I guess he did lift a lot of shit.

(20:18):
A lot of time. I didn't know what it was.
It was it was moving around smooth on buckets.
It was so smooth on dear listeners, because I I know a
lot of your guys are crafty. So I figured I'd shout out
Smooth on in case you don't knowwhat it is.
Smooth on is a manufacturer of advanced materials.
Basically they make all sorts ofdifferent resins.

(20:39):
Pretty much every movie you've ever seen has stuff made with
Smooth on products in it. So you can, if they make like
silicone that you can make into molds, they also make resin that
you can pour into those molds. They make like foams that are
self skinning. So like when you put it in the
mold, it expands and pushes up against the sides of the molds.
So on the inside it's really squishy and foamy, but it's
still really smooth on the outside.

(21:00):
So they make like really, reallyprecise and specific, vastly
interesting, like chemical, chemically speaking products.
So if you're into the, you know,making stuff special, like
jewelry making and stuff like that, you should know about
smooth on there awesome. But they make a bunch of
different products. Each one has its own properties
and likes to behave in its own way.
And it it's it's it's just the whole fucking world.

(21:22):
It's fucking awesome. Niche crafting knowledge on this
podcast. I can't believe it.
No, but yeah, smooth on dude. It's, it's the shit.
But I, I realize that one of my biggest like gaps in my
knowledge is just in the behavior of those products.
And the more, the more of those products that you have like
under your belt, the better. So like for example, smooth on

(21:47):
3/25, for example, is a resin. It's reasonably fast curing
resin. It's part time.
Part time is like the amount of time that you can actually pour
it and stuff before it starts todo its thing and you can't pour
it anymore. Like I got really good with that
stuff by working on working on the Barbie projects.
I did work with it. I for just days and days and

(22:07):
days and days and weeks and weeks and weeks straight.
And so now like, I know how thatfucking shit acts.
So if they're like, Hey, will you go cast that out of smooth
on 3/25? Yup, absolutely 300.
Not as much experience, still pretty confident, but not as
much. But then if they're like, hey,
what about like foam it, you know, 420 or something like
that. I used it before.
So the more, the more smooth on products I can get under my

(22:30):
belt, the more useful I'll be. And the more useful I'll be, the
more work I'll get and the more work I'll get, the more I'll
learn. And then they'll tell two
friends, and then they'll tell two friends, and then we'll, and
then we'll take over the whole world.
And then we'll be 9 people's favorite thing.
Sorry. Yeah, the.
Fucking musical theater reference.
I'll What if you just went to gowork at Smooth on infiltrate?

(22:53):
Well, it's like a, it's like a tester, you know?
No, like just go like infiltrate, you know, it's like
when you want you go work at a restaurant for a week because
you really want to know how theymake their like lemonade.
Oh, staging. Yeah, Yeah.
What's? It like staging but.
The description of like the the smooth on projects are all like
available like. You can read up their exact.

(23:14):
Chemical in nature and. Like, oh, yeah.
Like, you can literally, like, understand the molecules
involved, you know, which I do. Well, not all the way, but you
know, I looked into it. But there's also like a
practical element to it where you can know all the shit in the
world, but like, what does it feel to touch?
How warm should it be like to feel in your hand?
Like practical stuff, you know? It's like reading recipes versus

(23:37):
actually cooking, you know? Yeah, that makes sense.
But so anyways, I've just been trying to get my learning curve
steeper again because it was, I was working really consistently
for a while and I was just fucking learning crazy shit
everyday. And then in like 1 day all the
work disappeared. And so now I'm just kind of a
making sure that all my people know that I'm available and
trying to get that learning curve up, up steep steep.

(23:58):
I love that for you making instruments In the meantime,
you're cool. Thanks, you're cool.
Make some content in the meantime.
I will make some content. In the time I was thinking about
that today, OK, I keep making content and fucking nobody sees
it. Like I got like I think 1000
views on my last video. I was like why am I even fucking
bothering anymore? It's insane.

(24:19):
I actually, I could use your help figuring out a concept
because what I really something that I cannot get out of my
head, I think about it like oncea day, is the landfill harmonic
orchestra, that that orchestra in South America where all the
instruments are made out of trash.
Somebody or probably several people made those instruments

(24:43):
and that's like the coolest fucking thing in the world.
So I was thinking it'd be reallycool to make an entire orchestra
out of trash and try to reverse engineer how the fuck they did
that. Just, you know, today's cello
day. Like what?
I mean, cello take a fucking while because like, I can make a
shitty cello like it's in zero time.
I like, I know, but like a pretty good cello, you know

(25:07):
what's wrong? I was just wondering like, is
there a hook to that? Like should I?
Is it like a race or something or am I just working my way
through? I think working your way like
trash orchestra is pretty good. And then just like, work your
way through it and say, you know, we're going to start with
the woodwinds because that's shit's easy.
And then, you know, get to the And then like at the end, you
fucking built like a piano or some crazy shit, you know, Oh.
I was working on a a piano mechanism actually.

(25:28):
Can I show it to you real quick?Can I show it on the screen?
Real quick. It's right there, yeah.
Hey dear listener, this is a great time to tell you that
tickets are still available for D3 and C If you want to
purchase, go on a, go on a cool cruise and hang out with me, you
can do that. D3 and c.com.

(25:51):
I was doing commercials. Thanks.
Look at this. What?
Holy shit, that's that is so much cooler than I thought it
was gonna be. I'm sorry that was like rude,
but like that's really good bubs.
Thank you very much. Always turn it so I can see the
like mechanism. Like no, the other way, No, like
flip it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That goes hard, bubs. Thanks.
That's fucking rad, dude. Yeah.
Adjustable tension. If I move the rubber band up,
it's tighter. Bra, that's sick, dog.
Thanks, this is a popsicle. Stick a couple coffee, stirs A

(26:32):
skewer and that's it. Is it?
I bet you could do that super easy with fucking clothes pins.
Oh yeah, I bet there's a clothespin angle here.
That's sort of where. Oh yes, definitely.
The idea behind this was basically.
But that's so good, Like I know that you're good at stuff, but

(26:53):
like that, that might be my favorite thing that you've ever
made because immediately like, oh, you could do a whole piano,
like immediately like your pianodone.
And. It's a little thick, but I this,
I just slapped this together so I could rearrange it so it's a
little skinnier. Yeah.
Be right next to each other. Yeah.
And then? You just need a harp behind it
or put whatever. The idea is I want to have a
movable, basically a keyboard that has hammers.

(27:15):
Yeah, That can be adjusted so that the the this is basically a
trigger that can then be transferred to anything.
Yeah. Put a harp behind it and you get
a shitty piano harp. Put a.
Bottles behind it, yeah. Yeah, that's what exactly I was
going to say. It's like little bottles and you
can put like a little metal piece and go tink.
But so the, the reason I was I made this is because piano keys

(27:35):
are super fucking complicated pieces of engineering and
they've evolved immensely over the years.
They're fascinating. But I don't need a lot of those
bells and whistles. I just need something that
works, you know? So I would this was an attempt
to just I. Like I basically.
Stared. I mean it was already built in

(27:56):
my. Head, that's so sick, you know?
I had to make it. Well, I'm Eric.
I can picture stuff. That's pretty good.
But so the idea is I was like, what what is this?
What is what is the fundamentally important
relationship that needs to existthat would cause a piano key to
function? And so I I found a GIF of a.
GIF you mean? I got to avoid that word because

(28:21):
every time I'm like, oh shit, I'm going to, someone's going to
say something and I'm going to lose my train of thought and
it's going to suck. So I took a GIF of a GIF of of a
piano key like being pressed just like a loop on loop and I
just put it on the TV and I juststared at it for like an.
Hour. Just like looking at what
everything did like watching. Oh, OK, so that pushes up on

(28:42):
that. Oh, and then that's slightly
angled so that that fault, you know, just staring at it.
And then I would just start removing parts like OK, well,
that is only there to present. So like what would it that would
still work? OK, well, what if you put the
other than that wouldn't touch that.
Well, So what if you made that longer like and eventually I
came up with, all you really need is a lever that is slightly

(29:04):
longer on one side. So it's the fulcrum is not quite
in the center. And then a much smaller lever at
a steeper angle at the bottom ofyour hammer that is at a height
so that it means back just enough.
And that's it. That's it's just too, it's a
compound lever essentially. The next problem to solve though

(29:24):
is that. Oh, the bounce.
The bounce, yeah, I need it to go forward and back, but also I
need it to go forward and back alittle bit because if it only
goes forward, when I push down and doesn't rebound, it'll stay
on the string and it'll just go.So it has to go forward enough
so the momentum has to carry it past where it wants to sit so

(29:47):
that it hits and then it falls back at rest, not touching the
string. Anyways, I that was a whole
fucking thing, but I was very excited.
I got hyper focused on that for like a week and I made one and I
went cool and then I fucked off and did something else.
But now you know how to do it. So now you can just like crank
them, but also. Felting.
Felting is really. Cool.
Also I was going to commend you on using the correct colors of

(30:10):
felt. I thought that was a nice touch.
Thank you very much. I did have white felt.
Well, Jenny had white felt, but she was doing something else and
she had a limited amount of it. And I was like, I really wanted
the hammer to be white because that's the color that they
actually are. Whatever, it's fine.
It's cool. Anyways, I just talked for a
really long time about very specific shit.

(30:32):
I'm not mad. What have I been doing?
I cleaned the office. Well, I'm like half done.
I cause here's what I've been doing.
I'm not going to lie to you bubs.
So you haven't been here. And so there's all this space,
and so every time I have an empty box, I've been just
throwing it over my computer. That's.
Awesome and I have not dealt with it in quite some time and

(30:53):
so now your side is just empty boxes and I need.
Is awesome. But my side is very clean, so
I'm going to swap seasides tomorrow and like work on
breaking down the boxes. But I've been I've been
organizing stuff. What I haven't done like
anything like fun and I well, I did the Ren fair, but I talked

(31:13):
about that last episode. Yeah, dude, I'm trying to feel
like. It was, I think one of the, the,
the thing that I really took away from it was that I think
that there are different ways toparticipate in the process and
the environment that are more and less right for me.

(31:35):
Like I loved my job. I loved it, I loved that job,
but there were a lot of parts ofit that I wasn't good at.
Like I wasn't a very good boss. I wasn't good at like the admin
shit. I struggled to keep up with like
the paperwork and like the, the budgeting and that kind of
stuff. But like the, the people, like
the, the working with the actorsand like connecting with them

(31:56):
and like just being like a support person and, and being
like a, a creative mind that they could like run ideas by.
You're like, oh, your show wouldbe really good.
Like, but what if, you know, youdid this thing or that thing?
Like how can we make it like 5% better?
I'm really good at that. And so I think one of the things
that I'm excited about is that like moving into next season,

(32:17):
I've kind of been talking with the new entertainment director
about maybe coming back. And so but I think I'm going to
try and come back in a way that feels like more right for me and
is also just like it brings me joy because there's a huge part
of that job that brings me joy and there's a huge part of it
that makes me want to fucking kill myself.
And so I was like, oh, I could just do the joyful parts and

(32:39):
have that be enough and not haveto worry, not have to stress
out. And so, I don't know, I feel
like I like I won like some therapy self-awareness points.
Yeah, dude, that's awesome. And oh, I watched Bailey's
asshole today. Dude, it was bad.
It was fucking bad. I don't know what she fucking
ate, but it was, it was bad. She describe.

(33:03):
The viscosity. I will not, but that's how my
I'm not gonna try. I was gonna keep.
I was gonna keep going. No, but yeah, I like, I feel bad
'cause I'm like, I don't have like any cool like invention
stuff that I've done that I've been cleaning and organizing and
that feels good in my soul. And I made a little Lego area
for streaming and I wanna make alittle like, oh, I cleaned all

(33:28):
of down. I cleaned like, you know, that
like rack that had been in the kitchen for like 10,000 years
with the jeans on. It got rid of that.
So that's now in the garage. So I love that.
So we have like space, but I wanna make some, you know how
like I put the like, little table by the couch.
I don't wanna figure out something like that for
downstairs. Yeah, like I wanna figure out

(33:48):
like I think a crafting area. Yeah.
'Cause I'm like, I really like but I don't know what.
I don't know what it is. I haven't figured it out yet.
I I really like those little trays that they have at like
Michael's. Yeah.
Oh yeah, with that. It's meant for like a kid.
Yeah, but it like, it's great 'cause you can put like pens and
stuff in the little thing and then you can just take that

(34:09):
little little tray that sits in your lap and you can put it on,
put it on the shelf or somethinglike that.
So I feel like a stack of those,you know, so you can like grab a
project. I.
Want like a table? You know, like I was thinking
about like, 'cause we, I had to get rid of two sections of the
couch because they were mice living in them, which that talk
about a thing that makes you feel like shit about yourself.

(34:29):
Just like there's mice in my house and it's like it's
nobody's fault. Like it's, there's, we live in a
wooded area that there's going to be mice.
But like they just got in and it's been an ongoing fucking
battle. But so I was just like, I'm just
going to get rid of these two pieces, which is fine, but on
the couch is tiny. And so I'm just like, and we
have like 2 N, we have three NS,which is super annoying.

(34:51):
It's like not good for any particular shape.
Oh yeah. So I was like, yeah, well, you
can't even like, that's kind of what I did is I just put like
the 2 ends together. So like, like I lost the Nexus.
And so there's like a weird tinyNexus.
Sweetheart, I'm. Sorry, I mean, there's still
like a corner. You.

(35:12):
Know, but it was, I was like maybe I could put like a table
in between those two pieces or something and just, I don't
know, I gotta like, I don't know, I just feel like there's
not like a crafting area. I feel like it would be easier
to keep things organized if there was like a crafting area.
But I also, I don't want to buy a bunch of furniture if I'm
going to be bringing some stuff back from LA, you know what I

(35:32):
mean? Yeah, I'm just, I'm trying to
figure that out too. No, I see that you could, you
could build another one, build another another, another little
action. Lay a lay a piece of Lay a piece
of plywood down or something like.
That little plywood, little plywood action.
Oh, I've been learning somethingelse that I think you would
think is cool. Shorthand, dude.
Yeah. Shorthand writing like.
Old timey shorthand. Old timey shorthand where it

(35:54):
just looks like a bunch of squiggles but it actually says
something. It's awesome.
I've learned MNLR and a bunch ofother I don't know.
I've learned a lot of letters. I've learned ING is just a dot.
I've learned H which is also a dot but in a different location.
So anyways I can like for example on this my little pad

(36:16):
here. Oh.
That's that just says. Me, me, me, me, Me, Me, Me, Me,
Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, me, me me.
That a long horizontal line is an M and then a small circle is
an E So they all say me, me me me me me me except for this one
which has that little uptick thing.
Which? Which says meal, it's an L so

(36:41):
Mel meal meal. If I were to do a long line and
then a circle and then a short horizontal line, that would be
mean because the short horizontal line is an N.
So anyways, a big frustration inmy life is that I cannot write
nearly as fast as I can think. And so if I can get fluent and
shorthand, that would just be fucking dope, dude.
I could just like. That's very.

(37:04):
Cool. Yeah, I get frustrated 'cause I
try to use like dictation, like,you know, I'll open like Google
and I'll be like, I'll just be like, OK, push the the voice to
text. And then like, it catches like
3/4 of what I'm saying. And then it's just like
nonsense. And I'm just like, well, that
was a waste of my time. So I like this.
Can I write you? I want to learn shorthand too.
And then can we write like secret, secret messages to each

(37:25):
other? Oh.
Yeah, dude. Oh my God, Absolutely.
Yeah. That would be sweet.
That would be awesome. Yeah.
I am I just a fuck? I just thought of a thing and I
was like oh that too. Also this fuck I forgot God huh?
I don't know, but something I also just thought of is that
there are Larpers in the park byus in LA.
I've seen that. The Larpers in the park and your

(37:47):
boy just happens to be sometimesa professional, perhaps maker
and stuff. And so I think it'd be really
cool to go and make a full garb of, like, accurate stuff,
including weaponry that looks asreal as possible but is play
safe so that you could just like, show up.
And they're like, dude, we can'twe're we can't, you know, like,

(38:07):
that's awesome. But like, we're not actually
going to fight. That's dangerous.
That's a real sword. And you're like, Nope.
And they're like, what, You know, show them up a little bit.
Yeah. I think that would be, there's
some people doing some extraordinary things with EBA
foam on the Internet. Like the cosplay, like that's
like honestly, I feel like if I was going to get, if I was gonna
like change direction, I feel like I would immediately go into

(38:30):
like cosplay crafting because like I fucking love costuming,
man. I love it.
I love sewing. I love making stuff and like the
shit people come up with is insane.
Like, it's so cool. Oh yeah, some of the most
whenever I see a a cosplay. Warhammer Cosplays.
Yeah, like those where you're just like, that's fucking

(38:51):
insane. It's always because they're
super good at working with Eva foam.
Also shout out to fucking rocketprops for making the Bev all,
which is basically a little thing that holds an exacto knife
at a specific angle so you can cut Eva foam at a like a perfect

(39:12):
bevel every time instead of having to like sit there and try
to keep your hands still and stuff.
So good. It's awesome.
The Bev all shout out. It's just that's just like such
a good invention and it deservesto be used in every shop in the
world and I hope it does. And then when it is, I'll be
like, I know that guy. I found a secret stash of Eva
foam just the other day. It was in the garage.

(39:32):
Yeah, we have a shit kind of Evafoam.
And so I'm this crafting room, man.
It's gonna be, it's gonna be glorious.
Like once I kind of get it together a little bit more, it's
gonna be pretty sick, my dude. Oh yeah, man.
Oh yeah, Mike just put together his, like, crafting area in his
new apartment and it's so fucking sick.
Is, you know, pegboard, but everything's all organized and

(39:54):
nice. Bunch of drawers with, like,
paints in it. Oh, it's so nice.
Thing is, is like, I've really been paying attention to like.
The like the details of the systems is like a thing that
I've really started paying attention to of like honestly, I
can't, I don't think drawers work unless they're clear and
you can put like larger stuff init.

(40:14):
But like I was like, it's got tobe a bin.
It's got to be a tosser. It's got there Can't be like one
step. It's got to be like immediately,
just like, you know, and it's like the satisfaction of like
lining up all of your little paints and having them be in
like rainbow order or whatever. And I'm like, do I care about
that as much as just like paint generally goes here so I can
like stay organized. And I so I've been like, I've

(40:35):
been stressing about that like, well, I've been like organizing
stuff. I'm like, how much do I care
about? Like the pencils go here and the
pens go here and it's like, hereis a cup for office supplies.
And it's like, it's weird how itworks in my head.
Like sometimes I really fucking give a shit and sometimes I'm
just like, Nah, shoebox full of shit.
Like, it's really interesting. Yeah, I know what you mean.

(40:58):
Like I've always been interestedif, if I'm in a, in a, in a
space that is already organized like that and like in a very
meticulous way where like the colors have their own little
spots and stuff like that. I have no problem whatsoever
adhering to that system and it'svery satisfying.
It's very nice. But when it comes to a system
that I am putting in place, it'sI can do either one.

(41:20):
I can do the throw it in a bin. I could do it in a put in the
exact location, but I can't makethat fucking decision about
which one it's going to be. I mean, I can, but that's the
really hard part is deciding, which is exactly what you're
saying. But like that is absolutely the
hardest part is, is deciding what it's going to be because I,
you know, I humans are, are incredibly resilient and

(41:40):
adaptable creatures. Like we can get used to a lot of
different types of systems, but deciding, dude, Oh, that's the
hard part. That's why it's great to asking
other people to organize your shit and you organize their
shit. You know, like if I'm, I would
rather organize somebody else's stuff any day of the week than
my own stuff. You.
Can not even close because here's the thing, I'm the exact

(42:02):
opposite. Like I, I remember like when we
brought in the professional organizers and like and then
like a year later, I just felt like a shit bag because
everything had like just gone back to the way it was And I
realized it was because like I just like kind of let them do
stuff and I didn't have a lot oflike input.
And So what I'm realizing is that I need to be the person
making decisions. But then once I've made the

(42:25):
decision, if I just kind of decide like, OK, and this is
where stuff is going to go, thenit's become like a lot easier to
keep stuff clean because it's like, OK, that's like the area
where like that is where like and like the like with like
system is chef's kiss Like it is, it's going even in like in
here. Like I made a ton of progress in

(42:45):
like three hours because I was just like, OK, this is where the
tools are going for now. Like they might not stay there,
but for now all the tools go into this zone.
Like all the cords go in this zone.
All the all the, you know, mounts go in this zone.
And so it's been really nice because then like it just
becomes that sort of like snowball effect of like you're
just like, OK, everything has a place, so I can just sort of

(43:07):
toss it into place. And then you go and you like
organize the pile and then you figure out, do I want this here?
Do I not want this here? Like is there a better way of
organizing like this specific pile?
It's great, man. Yeah.
And also some things, some things reveal themselves like
over time, you know, a lot of times they'll be like, should I
put this, you know, on my left or on my right or like whatever

(43:27):
the hell, you know, should this go with other like things or
should I go with the things thatI more commonly use it with?
You know. And sometimes those things
reveal themselves over time, like if you just start existing
with it, the system for a while actually, like, you know what?
I do consistently need the scissors over there.
So I'm not going to put all the scissors in one drawer.
I'm going to put most of the scissors in wonder, but I'm also

(43:50):
going to keep a pair of scissorsover there.
Or whatever it. Is so like these scissors live
in a different place than the other scissors and like that is
just, you know, you need data you got to you got to exist with
it and see what comes up. Well, that's been the hardest
part for me is also like a bunchof people were commenting on the
fact that I, I know we talked about this literally last
episode, but a bunch of people commented today while I was
streaming about how I was drinking out of a deli container
And I, I gave them the spiel, but I don't like small cups.

(44:13):
And then the same thing happened.
Like I, I was, I have, you know,my little like tin of office
supplies I was going through andI was like, what I want to keep
here, like whatever I want to keep in like the office supplies
bin, blah, blah. But I realized like so much of
staying on track for me is like,I can't get up if I have to get
up to like get a pair of scissors or get the tape or get

(44:35):
the screwdriver or whatever derailed, derailed immediately.
And so for me, I was like, OK, I'm going to keep at least one
pair of scissors within like grabable distance.
But figuring out what the grabable things are, that's the
hard part for me personally is like, what do I, Cuz it's like
things change, you know? Cuz like sometimes I'm like this
week I'm really into sewing or this week I'm really into like

(44:57):
crochet. And so it's like, you know, so
I've got, I have like little zones right now where I've got
like my first aid and, and medicine zone and like my
crafting zone and stuff. And I'm like, there's going to
be a whole crafting room. But it's like, I still kind of
feel like for the function of being at my computer, there's
going to be a time when I'm like, I want a paintbrush or
something. And it's like, do I keep some
paintbrushes here or do I just put them all where I know they

(45:20):
are and then go seek out the paintbrush?
And that is a surprisingly hard decision.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I, I, I think having like a
something, something that reallyhelps me to think about.
That is something my grandfatherwould say, which is he has a he
had, he had a, he has his shop, like his big shop in the
backyard. It's a shed.

(45:42):
But then in the house, there's like a little nook that he
called the triage because it wasfor diagnosing problems early
and like, do I need to take thisto the shop or is it just a
screw that's loose and I can fixit here?
So we had like a ragtag group oftools in triage.
It was like a screwdriver, some other stuff, some adhesives and
what not. And so whenever I think about
that, I think of like a triage station, you know, like I'm

(46:05):
sitting at my desk, I'm doing a thing.
Oh, I kind of like paint right now and grab your paintbrush.
So you'd have like a triage bag that it was just like in case of
emergency crafting needs, you know, here's, you know, your
basic paints, your basic whatever.
Turns out you might need more shit.
Like you might be like, I reallyneed that really specific paint
or that specific brush, in whichcase you got to go down to the

(46:27):
shop or go to wherever that stuff is.
But having little triage stations around, but
compartmentalized like like contained, you know, money bags
or pencil cases, awesome for that because they're super
durable. You can put anything in them and
they won't like RIP and stuff, but they bag up into a little
into a little thing like little pencil cases.

(46:49):
You know that that the children's use at the school.
Or like the the I like the hard shell ones.
What are those fucking things called?
They're not trapper keepers. You know the one.
They're like square and they have like the bumps on the top.
And then you would take your pencil and.
Would draw Tran boxes. Yeah, that's what you have, like
a specific name. I don't know I got I got trauma
with those fuckers. I mean not not really like not

(47:11):
real, not like capital T trauma,but just like everybody else's
would remain remain so clean andso whatever, and mine just
seemingly out of nowhere would just turn to shit every time you
get at night freshy. I can hear the sound of an empty
CRAN box opening with that little pull tab that living
hinge on the. Front.

(47:31):
Back. Of it, when it goes it clicks a
little bit and then it you can hear it open like a clam.
Goes like the sound gets. It starts very round.
Space. Maker, Space maker.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Space Maker.
However, how awesome were those bumps though?
Oh God. Oh my gosh, rubbing those bumps.
I can feel them now. I'd rub those bumps.
Not even joking with you bumps. There's one that is for sale on

(47:54):
eBay right now for like $25. I'm like well I am an adult and
I make enough money. I was like, do I need a vintage
space maker? But yeah, you would color around
and then you would have like like the and you would take and
it would be like that texture, like in between the bumps.
It was like that. Yeah, and.
I would just, yeah, it was like that, like rough texture, but
then the bumps were smooth. Oh fuck.

(48:16):
Oh my God dude that's that's a deep sensory memory.
I know, right? Yeah.
I can feel it. I also can remember the sound of
like if you were to shake it a little.
Bit it was like that plastic. Stuff would rattle around, yeah.
I was. In my life.
I was feeling, yeah, sorry, I totally got you off.
No, no, that was that was the end of it.

(48:37):
I just whenever I see it's, I have very specific memories of
before the school year would start.
First school would start. You'd go with your parents or
your mom or your dad or whoever you would do this with and you'd
go to like a staples or something or whatever and you
would get your shit. You know you would get your.
Grand. Spanking new, fresh.

(48:57):
Yeah, exactly like you'd have. Some.
Fresh, dude, everything's smoothand they're all the corners are
not jagged yet and all the, the,the fucking wires on those
single single subject notebooks have not yet bent to shit and
they don't RIP the pages every time you try to open it.

(49:17):
But I would get those. And it was like, wow, they're,
they're all so pristine and so satisfying and so like, yes,
this is my fucking year. This is the year that I wrangle
my brain and get my shit together and I use my planner
and I'm going to fucking. And some kids, some kids six
months into the school year, eight months into the school

(49:38):
year, at the end of the school year, their shit looked exactly
the same. It was.
Still, those kids fucking pissedme off.
I'll just say I fucked them kids.
How Questions for neurotypicals,which is a segment we've been
thinking about doing for a while.
Questions for neurotypicals. How the how do you keep your
spiral notebooks from getting all smooshy and jaggedy?

(49:58):
How, how do you do that? How do you stop the, the, the
corners of your folders from chipping and getting softer so
that eventually that starts rubbing on the papers inside and
fucking up your homework and stuff?
How do you do that? But anyways, mine, mine would
always turn to shit and like visually, I mean like like they
would become visually and functionally less, less like

(50:20):
things would bend and not work as well.
So now every time I, every time I open my green science
notebook, because I always chosegreen for science, I had to do
that thing where you have to like force the paper through the
like the bent loops and stuff. And other kids didn't have to do
that. Other kids shit stayed really
nice. But but I'm just apparently a
huge fuck up. I mean, you're not a fuck up.

(50:41):
I was not a fuck up, but I felt like 1 because like, what am I
doing here? Like one of the reasons I don't
want to do homework is because Ijust don't want to interact with
these objects. And I have so thoroughly and
inexplicably fucked up. And it was just like, and that
always started with that trip tofucking Staples or whatever when
you're like, all right, this is,this is the, the notebook that's

(51:03):
going to make me feel like shit about myself for the next
fucking nine months. Like this is the notebook that's
going to make me go like, wow, I'm worse than all these kids
around me. Like this is going to be the
fucking symbol of that. And so anyways, every time I go
into a Staples or whatever, likeI get, I can feel my sympathetic
nervous system like gearing up, being like, oh shit, oh fuck, oh

(51:24):
shit. Don't get too hopeful because
then it's going to hurt when youfuck it up, you know, or
whatever. Or.
Like you would like scratch something out on the page and
then the whole page was ruined? Did you have that one?
That was my thing is like, I would keep perfect notes until I
didn't keep perfect notes. And then it was like, and so I
would like try really hard for like weeks.
I'd be like, oh, everything's going to be perfect whenever.

(51:44):
And then there would be like someday where I spelled some
shit wrong or like smeared it. And then I was like, welp, it's
all fucking ruined now. And then by the time I think I
was in like 8th grade, maybe, maybe high school, I feel like I
didn't have the option to choosefor myself until high school.
But I started just getting thoselike big thick like 5 subject
notebooks because I was like, I'm going to lose the notes.

(52:07):
I'm just so it's like, I might as well.
So my notebooks never made any sense because you would turn a
page and it was like biology notes and then the next page was
like algebra notes or whatever. And my teachers would get so mad
and they'd be like, I just don'tunderstand why you can't just
like keep your notes like in in like an order.
And I'm like they are in an order, they're just in an order.

(52:28):
Yeah. It's not the order you're
thinking of, but they are in an order, yeah.
Yeah, fuck, that's, I'm sorry you went through that, bubs.
Because that's, I feel like that's so #relatable for like so
many people. Oh, yeah.
I mean, when I think about goingback to school, that's what I
think about, You know, do I wantto go back to that?

(52:49):
Do I want to go back to just somehow, some fucking how not
being able to keep my poop in a group, You know, because it's
not just like using the planner.Like I would use my planner for
like long stretches of time and stuff and I would remember to do
things, but then I would lose it.
You know, I would show up to school and be like, I did my
homework yesterday, but I don't know where it is, you know, like

(53:11):
it's not in the folder it's supposed to be in.
Like, and you can't remember notto forget something, you know,
like there's something that I'm forgetting right now and I don't
know what it is because if I knew what it was, I wouldn't
have forgotten it. So like you by definition can't
remember something you've forgotten because you would not
have, you know, whatever. So like I would love to know
that. Oh, it's because I put it down

(53:32):
and forgot it there, you know, or whatever, but I have no idea.
I thought I at any given time it's the whole thing.
Fucking school. But as I've been hanging out
with like Jenny who went to art school, like her class was like
glass blowing. Yeah, and.
Shit and fucking like carpentry shit and whatever.
And I'm like, oh, fuck, I didn'tgo to school.

(53:53):
I didn't go to college because Iassumed college was just more of
that. But like, doesn't have to be,
yeah. Like or like Jesus?
Did you see the TikTok I sent you the other day about?
You send me a lot of tik toks. I'm not.
Sure, You know what I'm not. Around oh I'm not saying it's a
bad thing please do send me a lot of tik toks I.
Just tell you which one. You're referencing.
Oh so sorry I always send you tik toks like 4:00 in the

(54:14):
morning. It was the yeah, the American
College of Building Arts. Did you see that?
Yeah, dude, check. I sent you the entire account.
Like watch every video, but it'sthis.
It's basically like, it's hyper specific art, artisanal traits.
So it's like architecture, but it's like woodworking and

(54:36):
blacksmithing and like carving, plastering, stone masonry, like
all of that shit. But it's like a college.
And so you just go and you pick a skill, but you get to like
sort of like, you know, you get to like little buffet action.
That's awesome. Yeah, also.
Oh, sorry. There you go.
You go. No, no, no, no.

(54:57):
I have speaking. Speaking of going back to
school, I do have a thing to tell you.
What? What you got?
I got accepted into a PhD program, so I'm going to be a
doctor. Congratulations, Doctor Kate.
That's fucking sweet, sweetheart.
Congratulations. See how it goes.
It'll I bet it's gonna go awesome.

(55:18):
It'll be great, it'll be fine, but yeah, it's.
Gonna go super awesome and good.Yeah, couple years.
Doctor Kate, what's up? That's fucking sweet.
And that is the last time. I will reference that for the
next like 2 1/2 years. Oh, also, Speaking of science
notebooks, what are you doing onJuly 17th, 18th or 19th?

(55:42):
July 18th is my brother's birthday, but other than that,
probably whatever you're about to suggest.
Because Mr. Hank Green and Mr. VSauce are doing a live show in
LA. Oh dude that sounds awesome.
Yeah, there's something cool. Shit. 2 fucking A list S tier

(56:05):
fucking science educators. Dude God tier.
Oh my God, God tier educators. Science educators, man, Hell
yeah that. Sounds like a dope that's.
What I'm saying, oh, but nothingabout going back to school for
for arts stuff. Is that the hardest part?
Like I if I were to go to schoolfor art stuff when I was 18 and
did you know the best version ofit?
You know, like taking cool classes and stuff in the back of

(56:27):
my head, I'd be like, well, fuck, what if I can't break into
the industry? What if I graduate and there's
no work? Like what if, you know, because
having the skills is only part of it.
You have to be in the right place at the right time.
You have to be insanely fucking lucky.
Like there's so much shit that has to go right for you to
actually get work in a creative industry.
And I've already done that. Like I've already done that
part, you know, like I've provenmyself to several important

(56:50):
people and developed relationships with them and
shown that I can learn and all the stuff, you know, I've
already done that now. So like if I were to go to
school for, you know, whatever resin cast, you know, take
whatever classes like I would, that's already directly useful.
It's not like upfront investmentfor hopeful ROI later.
It's like, no, I right now I'll be like, hey, Mike, I know how

(57:13):
to do this now, by the way. So yeah, if you ever need
someone to do that. Let's say you got to start
Machine and machining classes. Yeah, that machine class I took
has came in handy so many times working at Funko like so many
times. Like there were little things.
It was a great fucking moment where it's the, can I talk about

(57:35):
specifically, we're building a robot for a commercial.
And at some point a screw had tobe drilled in a weird spot and
it needed to like allow this part to rotate freely but be
really secured into the thing that it's like screwed into.
And so I was like, oh, so you need to like drill and tap a
hole and thread. Like we had to do machining

(57:56):
stuff, but it was just on wood. And I just, I knew how to do it.
I was like, oh, well, so that means I have to take this length
and make sure that this and markthat length on the bit.
And I just did it. And I did it.
And I went up to Mike and was like, here, let's do this.
And he goes, oh, I forgot to tell you.
Like we can't just like drill a hole and put it like we have to
do all these things. We have to.
And I was like, yeah, I just didthat.

(58:17):
He goes, what? He goes, what?
Like he thought he thought we had an hour or more work to do.
Like he thought we were about todo that.
And I had already done that. And so he takes the parts that I
just made and looked. And he goes, holy shit you did.
Fuck me, that's my bubs. Let's go.
Yes, like that's. The best thing ever Like.
Yes, that's amazing, Bubs. Oh, that's amazing.

(58:38):
He was so ready to be like, oh fuck, like, I'm sorry, that's
not going to work. But he was like, no, that's
that's exactly what I would havetold you to do, like.
Correct that fucking rule. Of yeah, machining classes,
dude, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyways, that was that was an awesome moment.
I love that for. You but Bubs, we are at 59
minutes and yesterday we went over and I wanted to.

(58:59):
Do you wanna wrap it up? We also forgot to do the the
outro yesterday but I feel like.We did.
We could put it in. We'll we'll put it in.
We got to have it. That's after coming back for a
long time. We got to hit all the.
We got to you got to hit you gotto hit it.
Well, maybe this could be the first episode and then we'll
just put that one as the second episode and no one will ever
know except if they listen to this specific part of the
podcast right now. Do a little swap that's.

(59:23):
Cool. Or we just.
Put well, Hey everybody. Episode at the same time.
Yeah. It's roughly 10 new episodes.
Be like, yeah, boom. Well.
Hey everybody. Not a bad idea, Sorry I keep
interrupting. It's.
I really wasn't even doing that on purpose.
I'm so sorry. You go.
I'll start talking. OK?

(59:43):
I'm so sorry. OK, Go.
Hey everybody, thanks so much for listening.
It's good to be back. Hello, thanks for listening to
our our ramblings and our whatever.
I hope we made your trip to worka little.
Little more pleasant and I'm sorry about that traffic.

(01:00:04):
Oh, and that guy in the green car fucked.
That guy. It's OK, fuck that guy.
Yeah, also, don't forget to turnyour laundry over.
Oh yeah, don't forget to switch your laundry.
And hey, if by next episode, you, if any, if, if, if by next
episode any of you did laundry and immediately like folded it
slash, put it away slash, whatever you do with laundry

(01:00:26):
instead of like leaving it in a big warm pile, you get a you get
a sticker. Yep, you got you get a sticker.
You get to take one of those stickers that you have that you
haven't unstuck because you don't want to What you want to
stick it. I give you permission to choose
one of those and unstick it and stick it to something.
You don't have to, but I'm giving you permission.
So if you if you feel bad about it, you're like, well, fucking

(01:00:49):
good. Told me to.
So Oh my God, you have so many stickers.
These are this is these are all of my stickers that I've been
hoarding. I've got heat or be.
Eaten. I think of.
It I've got these arms are for hugging and holding grudges.
I've got eat my ass with a spoonI.
Was I know you're like, you meant like eat your ass as if it

(01:01:11):
were a or or or or, you know, with a spoon, but I was thinking
like if you had a friend who wasa spoon and you were both eating
your ass at the same. Time with a spoon.
Like yeah, like the actor. Do you hear about the actress
who got stashed? Reese.
Reese something. Reese, something with us, you
know, with a knife. So serious.

(01:01:34):
All right, everybody, we're doing it.
We're shutting it down, all right?
That's the dumbest fucking thingever.
Hey, everybody, thanks so much for listening.
I think we did all the business up at the beginning of the
episode to trick you into listening to it, haha.
Thank you all so much for being here.
We really appreciate it. It is very, very good to be
back. My soul feels nice and warm
right now. So yeah, remember to take your

(01:01:55):
meds, remember to drink some water, remember to eat a snack,
remember to be kind to yourself,remember to be kind to others.
And remember that we love you and we will see you again next
week. Music.
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