December 10, 2025 • 44 mins
The cameras are rolling and the tinsel is out—we just leveled up to a multicam studio and used the fresh setup to wrestle with December in all its messy glory. From last-minute outdoor lights in a cold snap to the art of turning Halloween props into holiday cheer, we share how we actually decorate, not how Instagram says we should.
Money and time get real fast when your calendar stacks Christmas next to birthdays and New Year. We swap partner gifts for a great date night, map out smarter shopping timelines, and make the case for the 26th as a stealth power move for deals and returns. There’s travel talk too: theme parks can be magical this time of year, but we’ve lived the lines and learned the hard lessons about expectations, schedules, and patience.
Food is the soft heart of the episode. We celebrate Puerto Rican favorites like pernil, arroz con gandules, coquito, and pasteles, nod to Italian classics from lasagna to the Feast of the Seven Fishes, and shine a light on Jewish comfort dishes like lokshen kugel and potato kugel. We even explore vegan swaps that keep tradition alive without leaving anyone out. Along the way, we open up about the years when the holidays felt heavy and share simple ways to guard your headspace—drive to see neighborhood lights, buy gifts on your timeline, and practice gentleness with strangers.
And then the soundtrack wars begin. Wham overplay, Mariah inevitability, Springsteen’s Santa, Trans-Siberian fireworks, novelty songs we love to hate, and a few unexpected bangers from metal to a cappella. Whether music or visuals make it feel like Christmas for you, we’ll help you curate a season that fits. Hit play, join the conversation, and tell us your ride-or-die holiday track. If this episode made you smile or sparked an idea, follow, share with a friend, and drop a review so others can find the show.
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We're good.
So we chill to make a video.
Yeah.
Yep.
Good stuff.
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Yeah.
Fourth camera.
I get to change up my backgroundand put different things and
people.
Oh, I'm getting the I always sayJimmy Kimmel and Fallon.
Here we come.
Oh put them right here.
I'm gonna put them right herenext to me.
That's gonna be my next one forthe show.
Oh, that's crazy.
Yeah.
That's gonna be awesome.
SPEAKER_00 (01:06):
Hey you guys.
SPEAKER_01 (01:07):
Oh god.
I love it.
Can't wait.
Hell yeah.
But yeah, so going with our uhidea of sticking with the uh
holidays.
So the holidays.
No, we were in the month ofDecember now.
I know, it's freaking great,isn't it?
Right.
See, this is what I'm saying.
Now I'm ready for Christmas.
Not back in November when it wasuh scarvy.
(01:28):
I know.
Now I'm ready, ready, ready.
So yes, I can't wait, man.
You guys set up already?
SPEAKER_00 (01:35):
You guys are like my wife takes care of everything.
SPEAKER_02 (01:37):
Well, I mean it's a good one.
We're doing this one for thatone and we're doing them.
I'm like perfect.
Everything's great.
We we yeah, we set up.
If I had to do it, I could doit.
You know what I'm saying?
If I had to do it, I could doit, but most of the time it's
just better that she just doesit anyway.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I still buy gifts, butnot on the level that she's at
because she's like at everybody.
SPEAKER_01 (01:55):
Well, you're right.
So she does everybody's realshopping, you get like the
little stuff for her for maybelike something extra for the
kids or something like that.
Yeah, stuff like that.
Yeah, I got you.
Yeah, I got you.
And Tom, you didn't get a chanceto finish the outdoors.
Oh man, yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (02:09):
It it's like, you know what?
I'm just gonna pay attention.
I hate, I I I hate to go withlike consensus, but if everybody
else is doing it, is whatbecause everybody put up their
Halloween their how I I can't.
Can't stop saying Halloween.
I love Halloween so freakingmuch.
No, no, I they everybody startedputting up their Christmas
decorations the weekend beforeThanksgiving.
(02:29):
And you know, I I got the samematerial you do.
I'm not that's not going up tillafter Thanksgiving.
Right.
Well, I should have put it upanyway, just the outdoor
decorations because they got itwas like raining the next
weekend, this weekend it'ssnowing.
Right.
And we managed to get like acouple up like la this Monday,
but it was like the temperaturelight dropped in a flash.
Oh wow.
So I was like, we put up like weput up like four or five
(02:51):
inflatables, and we're like, allright, let's go in, we're gonna
finish this another day, andthen you know, it's just well,
did you do every day is better?
I was already wearing the LongJohns, man.
SPEAKER_01 (02:58):
Dude, yeah, hell yeah.
We're making thermos right now.
It's cool outside.
But did you take and decoratesome of your Halloween stuff
that was outside to intoChristmas stuff?
I thought one of them you saidthat uh you're putting the the
Santa Claus hat on what, theskeleton, I think.
SPEAKER_06 (03:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we got Bobby Bones, as Imentioned before.
He's got the skeleton he's gotthe Santa hat on.
And then we have the fromNightmare Before Christmas, our
wreath is the wreath, thehaunted wreath with the nice
man.
SPEAKER_01 (03:24):
That's what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_02 (03:26):
That's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_01 (03:26):
See, I love it.
That's the I and that's what Idid.
Because so, dude, you know, Iwent to the store, I went to go
find a giant hat for myjack-o'-lantern that I got
sitting in my front seat.
Yeah.
They don't have a big enoughone, bro.
So my feelings are kind of hurt.
The jack-o' lantern is the giantis, yeah.
Well, no, no.
So it's a pumpkin head, youknow?
Well, he's got like the pilgrimhat on now.
unknown (03:45):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (03:45):
Right?
So I need something that's gonnabe able to get that can tuck in
that hat.
But there's nothing, like I needit, bro.
If so, if it's like a uh uh 536size hat, I need it like a four.
I mean a six.
So just like to stuff everythinginto that, and then it'll sit
just right on his head, you knowwhat I mean?
Gotcha.
So I'm gonna have to figure outsomething real quickie because I
(04:07):
mean we only got a few weekstill Christmas, so I gotta come
up with something really, reallygroovy to make that happen.
But yeah, it's great.
And I said now you do you know,shot the Christmas lists are
already in, and oh no, I'mlying, I'm missing two and two
people Christmas lists.
So with that, they just gonnaget nothing, nigga and shit.
(04:27):
Now I'm lying.
I'm lying, I'm not gonna I getthem something, but it's gonna
be something I want them to getnow.
So yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (04:33):
But yeah, I don't like I said, I don't do a lot of
the shopping, but I know the thespecific things I need to get
for the close people, you know,like my wife, my kids, or
grandchildren or whatever likethat.
Yeah.
So uh and I already already gotI think I already got one of my
grandchildren something already.
It was like a good learning toy,help out.
But it was fun at the same time,kind of thing.
(04:53):
So that's the kind of stuff I'mlooking at.
And then of course Tanya.
I got her whatever she likes andshe does the same thing for me.
We pretty much already know whatwe're getting, but we still go
through through the wholerapping and everything and
tradition, you know, just to doit.
SPEAKER_01 (05:07):
Yeah, that's cool, that's good.
How about you, Tom?
You got anybody stepping out?
It's always fun to openpresents.
Any what?
Oh yeah, you got everybody yougotta get.
SPEAKER_06 (05:13):
Like you get Santa Claus went and got chased his
stuff and I mean, like I said,Tara and I, we don't we don't
exchange gifts.
You don't?
No, because you know what itwas?
When we first moved in together,we were like, we're like, yeah,
we're doing joint checkingaccount, even though we weren't
even engaged yet.
We were just boyfriend andgirlfriend living together, you
know?
(05:33):
Uh we're like, we're gonna dojoint checking account.
It's just easier because I don'twant to have to say, oh, you pay
for this, I pay for that.
So we did that, and then we'relike, look, gifts are kind of
stupid now because like youknow, we spent it.
I'm buying it myself.
Right.
You know what I mean?
So we're like, yeah, you know,so what we do is we we we go out
for a nice meal.
We like do a date night, like alike a ball or date night.
SPEAKER_04 (05:55):
Yeah, you know, we're like, oh, we're gonna
order, you know, going to TacoBell, baby.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (06:00):
Oh, we're upgrading from Taco Bell to Chipotle.
SPEAKER_04 (06:04):
Woohoo! No, we go to like a nice restaurant, we order
lots of appetizers, desserts.
SPEAKER_01 (06:11):
Right, you know, you take taste, or you like give
them some Benadryl and leavethem home.
Benadryl.
SPEAKER_06 (06:18):
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nah, it's just a day night, youknow.
That's cool, that's good.
SPEAKER_01 (06:22):
I didn't that's not a bad idea.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, see, so my little thing isthat well, my problem is that
Christmas, and then second weekof January is the wife's
birthday.
So you gotta split it up.
Well, I got right, so I have tosplit it up.
My son is in December.
See, so but my son Jason, hisbirthday is the first of January
(06:43):
1st.
He's a New Year's baby.
Right.
So it's Christmas and then NewYear's right there.
Gotcha.
So you know.
Yeah.
At least the other two well, ohno, yeah, because Maggie and I
are in October.
Samantha and Andrew are in thebeginning of September.
Middle week of September, andthen wife and Jason are January,
(07:04):
so they're closer to theChristmas shit.
I'm like, Dag nabbit.
And like, we don't want like noone big gift.
We're gonna have the bread.
I'm like, well, check this out.
You're lucky you're gettingsomething.
No, I'm kidding.
You know, I gotta I do I go allout.
I don't go all out, but I try todo, you know, make them as, you
know, try to get them the stuffthat they've heard them speak on
and such.
SPEAKER_02 (07:23):
So Yeah.
Have you ever always stayed inone place for Christmas, or you
always go somewhere different?
You travel, you go to or is italways the same every year?
So you know, this person'shouse, that person's gonna be a
good one.
SPEAKER_01 (07:35):
When I was a kid, we used to kind of like travel back
and forth and stuff like that.
And not so much like out ofstate, just different
neighborhood, you know what Imean?
Right.
But as I've gotten older,basically stayed in the same
area, you know?
Well, yeah, when the kids weregrowing up, it was basically
stayed in the same area.
SPEAKER_06 (07:51):
Yeah, for me, like it was just like most all my
family lived in state.
So like we never really traveledfor that.
The only family I did have thatwas out of state the one time we
went to my grandmother's houseand she lived in Florida, and we
were like, oh, well, we youknow, she was like an hour and a
half from Disney.
We went because she lived inOcala.
We went to, you know, we wentone year for like Disney.
(08:13):
I think we were there on likeNew Year's Eve at Magic Kingdom.
Yeah.
It must have been fireworks andall of that.
It was cool, but it was afucking shit show.
Oh my god.
It's it is the crowded.
It is the most crowded at Disneyduring the holidays.
Really by far.
Higher than the summer.
It I've never seen it thatcrowded in my life before.
SPEAKER_02 (08:35):
That makes sense.
SPEAKER_06 (08:35):
Like it's Christmas.
Holidays are like of Disney.
Yeah, Disney.
We didn't think it was gonna be.
So like you're in like for ashock because you're like, oh,
it's like, ah, there's probablynot gonna be a lot of people
because people are doing, youknow, whatever.
No, some people like that'stheir destination for the
holidays.
That's crazy.
I never even thought about that.
I didn't think it was gonna bethat kind of ex that kind of
crowded.
(08:56):
People are off from school, it'sa good time, you know.
But it's a I mean, good, it's itit's a a time when you could
bring the family there, youknow.
Uh and if I guess if you don'thave a lot of family or you're
just like uh, you know, you goto it's a it's it's it's decent,
but it's just so crowded.
Yeah, it's like I can imagine.
And that's before and when Iwent, that was before they did
fast passes and all that.
SPEAKER_02 (09:15):
So you had those friends, you know.
Oh no, we didn't go to Disney.
We went to I went to what is theother one in Florida?
Uh University, yeah.
Went there to uh duringHalloween season.
Did the you know the scarething.
SPEAKER_01 (09:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (09:30):
Never did that during Christmas.
I wonder if they do anything forChristmas on the even if they
were open.
Are they open all year around?
I guess they are.
SPEAKER_01 (09:35):
I'm gonna have to say yeah.
Because I mean if they're gonnabe down there for for uh
Christmas time at Disney, thenthey've gotta have that open and
have some kind of, you know,adult Christmas.
SPEAKER_02 (09:43):
Christmas as long as the weather is holding up.
SPEAKER_01 (09:45):
They must close for a certain amount of time at some
point in the season.
Maybe.
Well, I know they said they doclose off certain um uh parts of
the park, you know, it's certaintheme.
Like, you know, like they hadthe Harry Potter, they closed
that down but leave the rest ofit open while they were, you
know, cleaning it up or settingit up for the Halloween walk
stuff, you know.
Right.
I know they did that because Isaid I was there once year for
(10:06):
for Halloween.
Right.
But I don't I don't say I wonderwhat they do for Christmas.
SPEAKER_02 (10:10):
I'm gonna have to call my sister and be like, hey,
would you have a I couldprobably ask Tanya because her
sister used to work at Disneyand she she would know.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (10:17):
She was there for a while.
That's great though.
That is great.
I would I wouldn't mind.
See, so when I lived in Florida,I I I couldn't get my head
wrapped around it's freakingwarm for Christmas.
You know, like I didn't evenknow it was Christmas my first
year out there, bro.
Because it was like it was sohot.
Because of the temperature,yeah.
Yeah, no snow.
(10:38):
They're they're they're puttinglights on the freaking on the uh
palm trees.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02 (10:43):
I'm like, what the people still put the decorations
and everything out when you'rethere.
It's yeah, it's pretty uh it'spretty interesting to see, you
know, lizards running around andyou got a Santa Claus standing
on the lawn.
Yeah, that's the yellows,they're like the little lizards.
That's pretty crazy, yeah.
Freaking hilarious.
But you know, it's it's just thesame out there, but you know,
it's warm.
SPEAKER_01 (11:04):
That's it, you know.
And I couldn't wrap my headaround it, bro.
Like there was no snow, therewas no cold.
Like the coldest it got was Imaybe threw on a you know a
bomber kind of thing.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I didn't have a like nowI've got a shirt on.
SPEAKER_02 (11:15):
I think it's like close to 39 or something once.
SPEAKER_01 (11:18):
Yeah, a couple of times that it got down.
Like I know it when you know, Iknow when it, you know, I felt
that when it was 29 degrees, youknow, until maybe, I want to
tell you maybe eight o'clock inthe morning, nine o'clock in the
morning, then it got hot andit's like you're pulling you're
pulling stuff on, like, okay, Idon't know, where's my shorts?
Like it's too hot for this shit,you know.
I mean, but that's us being fromup here, right?
Going down there, so thatanything over, you know, 50
(11:40):
degrees, you're like, all right,cool, we could run out here and
just t-shirts and you know, wifebeaters and keep it moving.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
What the hell's wrong with you?
It's hot, you know.
AC still pumping and shit, youknow what I mean?
SPEAKER_02 (11:53):
I remember when I was down at that that particular
when I was down there, thatThanksgiving was actually
pretty, pretty chilly one.
And I was by the water when Iworked at my job there, Target
at the time.
Target.
Um we were right by the water,so it was it was pretty chilly
that night as far as I had tostand outside and help people to
(12:14):
line and all that shit.
Because it was Black Friday andall that other stuff.
But it was pretty chilly thatnight.
It was pretty crazy.
And then you get home at likethree, four o'clock in the
morning, because they startedearly.
They let me leave at like acertain time, you know, kind of
thing.
So I was like, yeah, whatever,I'm down.
SPEAKER_01 (12:29):
Yeah, you know.
Oh yeah, listen, you know, I I'malways cool with that, you know.
SPEAKER_02 (12:32):
Uh but people decorate though.
SPEAKER_01 (12:34):
Right, yeah.
People go bananas decorating,and it is a different
experience, the decorating whenyou see it in like the warm
climate like that, you know?
Like you know it's great.
SPEAKER_02 (12:44):
You know, sorry, Tom.
No, no, go real quick.
No, not great.
Growing up when I lived inBrooklyn, well, when whenever
you might have, and you go toCropsier Avenue, you go to all
those houses that decorate, likeyou go all out.
Yeah.
All these houses are likefreaking totally decked out.
Yeah.
Uh and you would just go todrive through the neighborhoods
to see the Christmas lights thatpeople put on their houses.
Yeah.
It was fantastic.
(13:05):
Yeah.
You know?
That was fun.
It was a fun thing.
That was a good thing aboutChristmas.
That was always fun too.
Because you know, the lights,the decorations, and how
everybody has a different eye asfar as what they they see or how
they celebrate it, which ispretty interesting.
Yeah, it is.
It's cool.
We're gonna say tough stuff.
That's what I loved about beingin the city as far as that was
concerned.
And my father always decoratedthe hallway.
(13:26):
Oh, oh, that's why you did tellus that.
Yeah, I think I spoke about thisone.
You had the record player outand music playing with Chris
Music and hanging everything.
Yeah.
Up.
Honora one side, Christmas treeon the other.
I love some of the harmonicscoming too.
Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_06 (13:42):
Yes, that's coming.
Oh, Sunday.
SPEAKER_02 (13:44):
Not this one, next Sunday.
SPEAKER_06 (13:45):
Yeah.
The decorations, the thing Ilove is when people get like the
the sound ones with the musicand stuff like that, where they
have like Trans-Siberian office.
Oh, yeah.
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (13:59):
Yeah, I love it.
I love it.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah, but it is, it's freaking,it's insane.
It is freaking insane.
I love that stuff.
I love when when uh I I say Ilike Christmas songs.
You know what I'm saying?
I do like the Christmas songs.
I do enjoy the uh the the theall the festivities.
I I I really dig them.
I'm not even gonna tell youdifferent.
(14:19):
I I'm really, really dig them.
SPEAKER_02 (14:21):
Well that's the whole thing, right?
We talked about this last timeon our last podcast, uh podcast,
excuse me.
About how we it's a it's a goodtime of the year to have it.
You know, you're at the end ofthe year, everybody's stressed
on top of whatever else they gotgoing on, and so they gotta go
shop now.
They're going shopping, thistime, and the other thing.
Just time to hopefully let yourhair down, be with family.
Hopefully things will go in goodfor you, and you're just able to
(14:42):
enjoy the season.
You know, that's what's funabout it, because like again,
the lights, the presents, thefood, except for the fruitcake,
of course.
SPEAKER_01 (14:51):
I don't know.
I I maybe I think maybe I'veheard of one or two people like
in person that I'm like, I lovefruitcake.
Fruitcake.
SPEAKER_02 (14:59):
It's like okay, to each his own.
SPEAKER_01 (15:00):
I mean, I can't really say that's wrong because
you know.
Yeah, no, it wasn't anything forme.
I mean, it lasts what I thinkshelf life for a fruitcake is
like five years, something likethat.
You know, I don't know.
It's like a sea ration for thearmy.
SPEAKER_06 (15:12):
I got the first fruitcake that was ever
invented.
It's still moldy or nothing.
Between that and and mincedmeat.
Yeah.
Which isn't even meat, it's justfruit chopped up.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (15:26):
Like dried fruit chopped up, like currant and I
don't like it.
I don't like it.
SPEAKER_01 (15:32):
No, I So that's that's another interesting
thing, right?
SPEAKER_02 (15:35):
The food isn't good, depending on whose house you go
to, of course.
Yeah, right.
Cooking.
Right.
You know, it could be anything,right?
Because we grew up.
I know if I go back to a growingup in the city, most of my
friends were Italian.
My Joe, my friend Joe Cap, who'sPuerto Rican, uh F, I should
say, but he was still his momwas straight up.
And everybody's house wasdifferent.
You know, they had the tree wasalways different.
(15:56):
You know, like again, they havea different way of looking at it
or so it was always interestinggoing to my friends.
I always loved going todifferent people's houses to to
see that stuff and be aroundthem because they love the
holidays so much.
And it was always fun.
They were never crazy.
Right.
You know, it was always laughingand eating and whatever.
And joining each other'scompany.
So that's the that was a funpart about it, you know.
(16:16):
If and if you all lived inBrooklyn, you only had to do
this go house to house, right?
Because you know, oh we gotta godown the block.
Yeah, you gotta go away.
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_06 (16:26):
Awesome.
Right.
Yeah, so that was always fun.
So what are maybe we shouldlet's let's go around and like
what are like dishes that yougrew up, was there any
traditional things that you hadgrowing up during during like
the holidays?
And I I mean well, I know yougot the coquito.
SPEAKER_01 (16:46):
Oh, you mean that kind of food.
Like food and drinks like that.
So then the food, yes, was thehocning and you know, with
almost anything.
So there is the yellow rice andpigeon peas.
And then coquito.
Everybody.
Well, we had the panil, you had,you know, of course, we had the
ham.
Right.
Depending on like Thanksgiving,anyways, it would be like the
turkey.
Right.
But uh, yeah, we had all thatstuff.
(17:07):
The um, oh my goodness, I justlost it.
The uh pateles.
If you know somebody who isgonna make the pateles for you,
papi, listen.
Because they like you.
SPEAKER_06 (17:16):
I know, I know pasteles, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (17:17):
The pateles, bro, if you do get the pateles, that
means you had like you left areally good impression on
somebody for them to go out andmake the pateles.
That's such a chore.
SPEAKER_06 (17:27):
I got it.
I made them with someone withwith with my friend's mother.
I and bro, yeah.
The way she did it is crazy,right?
Labor intensive.
Yeah, dude.
Because the way she would makeit is she would take the
plantains.
Yes.
Uh she did two styles.
She did uh one with yucca andone with plantains.
(17:48):
Uh-huh.
And she put it in the cheesegrater.
Yeah, man.
Yes.
For all it's like uh that's thelabor-intensive part is getting
it that during the putting thatthrough the grater.
That is like you gotta get thattexture, you gotta get it down
to those little pieces, yeah.
And by hand.
Like I think nowadays, I feellike you could probably cook it
(18:09):
up to a kitchen kitchen aid andput the grater setting.
SPEAKER_01 (18:11):
No, yeah, you could.
You could do that.
That would be so much timesaving.
That's the only thing thatyou're saving time on because
think of everything else thatyou have.
Oh, the whole the whole rest ofthe map.
The wrap and you got it.
SPEAKER_06 (18:21):
Well, first you gotta cook all of like the meat
and you know, with the olivesand all that stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (18:27):
Yeah, the big the big the big pot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I know.
So, I mean, like I said, so ifyou did so between the coquito
and the pateles, if you got thatBut not everybody does the
banana leaves, just wax.
SPEAKER_06 (18:38):
No, right.
Some people just use partially.
SPEAKER_02 (18:40):
You have to smash with the pan, that special pan?
Is that or is that a differentone?
With the the uh thing.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_01 (18:47):
You what when you're making the the the bananas, when
you're frying the bananas, thenyou would hit it with the pan,
like thing, thing to flattenthem out so to cook them.
Okay, that's what I'm asking.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The platanos and the maduros,yeah.
Then but to make the the thepateles, that's that's stuff
that's wrapped up in the leaf.
Okay and or into the wax paper.
And when you're gonna eat it,that you just put it in the
(19:08):
boiling water, make sureeverything inside gets nice and
warm and cook and they freezegood too.
They freeze and they last sixmonths easy.
That's if they last six monthsin your house because depending
on who made them, they'rereally, really good.
You know what I'm saying?
And there's different ways tomake them too.
SPEAKER_06 (19:22):
So I feel like I feel like you could because I
mean I made that way before Iwas vegan.
I feel like you could that's aneasy one to veganize.
You just gotta eat vegan meatand just that's uh because the
rest is the rest is vegan stuff.
Yes.
Yeah.
Plantain and and you know, oryouca, you know.
SPEAKER_01 (19:37):
Right, yeah.
Depending on yeah, because yeah,right.
You could do it with fish.
You could make it with uh withmeat, you know, beef, turkey.
Yeah, yeah.
You can make like any whateveralternative.
Yeah.
I mean, if you want to do like aseasoned tofu.
Yeah.
And like anybody else, bro, yougotta remember, bro, it's one of
those things, it's to yourliking, it's to your taste, you
know.
So people like that's differenttoo.
That's right.
Right.
(19:57):
So depending on everybody makesit different too.
Right.
So, you know.
That's cool.
Yeah.
But yeah, and what about you,Tom?
SPEAKER_06 (20:02):
What was your traditional foods?
I mean, we did a lot of these,you know, the typical, you know,
Americana type stuff.
Like we would do the ham for youknow, or turkey and stuffing.
We did do some like like my myfamily, obviously this is before
I was vegan, we did like theseven fishes.
Oh yeah, I've I've heard thatChristmas.
(20:24):
Sometimes someone would do someItalian stuff, maybe like a
someone would make a lasagna inthere, yeah, or a ziti.
Beg zero zini, a little bigzini, a little bit of
brujottana.
You'll know yeah.
I haven't had I haven't.
SPEAKER_01 (20:43):
No, but you know, I can't because I can't have the
lactose.
Yeah.
So I gotta be easy when I'mhaving the cheese.
Unless you're gonna takelactate.
Yeah, I gotta take the pill andwhatnot.
So I might ask why you feed aminute.
Hey, honey, can you make me somepeas?
I want a lasagna.
SPEAKER_02 (20:58):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (20:58):
Yeah.
That's great.
So then with seven fishes, thisis something I never asked
anybody, so I'm gonna ask younow.
Yeah, yeah.
Is it just it doesn't matter howyou make the seven different
kinds of fish?
I know, you know, there's a lotof traditional things people do.
SPEAKER_06 (21:13):
You know, they do the baccala, they do the I know
there's uh there's always likean octopus.
There's always like uh you haduh what's the little smelts?
Okay.
Like that.
Like, you know, fried galamodthat shit.
Right, but you chili, yeah.
Like that stuff was always likethe traditional like the but
(21:36):
like I don't I mean that wasalways but I don't think it was
mandatory.
I think it was like whateveryour family does.
Yeah.
What?
What?
I didn't even hear that.
I got I I I I I've done thecamera.
SPEAKER_01 (21:50):
No, no, no.
I'm saying that, but so ifyou're gonna have um bacala,
right?
Baccalaf for you guys, right?
Bacalau bacala, bacala.
Yeah, same shit.
So that then you had to onlyhave it when it's for me out.
Yeah, no, I'm not a fish guylike that either.
But I'm saying like you wouldhave to make that baccala fried.
You would have to boil the uhcalamari.
(22:11):
Like that's how it went, likethat was the only way to make
them?
Or was that you this year it wasdifferent at recipes?
Well, I'm just not meant.
Like if there was only it wasn'tlike the same thing.
SPEAKER_06 (22:18):
I think it's just like uh it's like that's what's
in there, isn't it?
That my you know, my familymakes, so we make that every
year just because it's like it'sexpected.
Right.
Like those kind of things.
You know what I mean?
But I don't think it was everlike, oh, we gotta make it this
way.
Okay, okay.
It's just that's because youknow what they like, you know.
SPEAKER_01 (22:35):
Right, right.
Yeah, so I I said I'm not a fishguy at all, by no means, you
know.
Yeah.
Uh that's why I'm asking.
Like I've never Yeah.
Yeah, no, no, that's that'swild.
And what about you, Lou?
SPEAKER_02 (22:45):
What was your big uh Well, you know, I grew up in a
Jewish household, so I didn'thave a Christmas tree.
So I we celebrated Hanukkah, butwe did have the decorations
because we decorated thebuilding, so we did celebrate in
a sense.
When I was growing up, it was atmy Aunt Mickey's house.
So if I was eating my AuntMickey's, she would be making
meatballs and spaghetti probablyor something like that.
I don't remember.
But I always I always rememberthat about her.
(23:05):
So we had Christmas there.
So we had a tree there, that'swhat I So I remembered that with
her.
But usually it was chicken, I'msorry, uh luxin coogle, which is
noodles, like egg noodles, andit's in a pan, and everyone has
their own recipe.
Some people have raisins in it,some people don't, some cheese,
it depends on what it is.
My mother just used straight upnoodles, but it was always moist
and soft in the middle, and theoutside was crispy, you know.
(23:27):
And then she also made potatokoogle, which is added potatoes
using a ch uh a cheese grater,you know, just grating and doing
it that way and baking that,same thing.
So that was also good becausethen you had the gravy,
sometimes it was pot roast.
Not a big fan, but it wasn'tbad.
Sometimes turkey, you know.
But yeah, that stuff was reallygood.
And everybody who knows LuxinKugel or or uh potato kogel, you
(23:51):
know what I'm talking about.
And it's always different.
Anybody else makes it it's neverthe same as what you uh you had
when you grow up.
So remember that.
Go to somebody else's house,don't get excited.
Yeah because it may not be thesame as what you get and you
might be disappointed.
SPEAKER_01 (24:04):
Yeah, no.
Pot roasto.
You put what in there?
SPEAKER_02 (24:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So yeah, that was always cool.
And then and then well, yeah, Inever really celebrated till I
married my first wife, and thenI celebrate we had Christmas
tree in the house and all thatother shit.
And then later on my mother putone in.
But the food was always goodbecause even when you went
somewhere different, nine timesout of ten you always ran into
something good.
But that was always fun.
SPEAKER_06 (24:28):
My aunt would make cookies chip and don't they do
like a turnaround?
Sorry, I know, I know, we'regetting used to it.
No, but don't they do like aisn't there like now like a uh
like a like a Jewish version ofthe Christmas tree where they
eat they like decorate it like aHanukkah tree?
SPEAKER_00 (24:44):
Hanukkah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I haven't seen that.
SPEAKER_02 (24:46):
Yeah, I never I never actually seen one, but
I've always heard about it allmy life.
SPEAKER_00 (24:49):
Oh, you're gonna get a Hanukkah bush this year?
SPEAKER_02 (24:51):
I'm like, no.
SPEAKER_00 (24:55):
That's funny.
SPEAKER_02 (24:56):
Hey, I still put a menorah up in my house, even
though we have a Christmas tree.
It's in the window.
I think it's good to have bothof them up.
SPEAKER_01 (25:01):
I mean, you know, and it's your culture, it's your
heritage.
SPEAKER_02 (25:04):
That's I mean, you know, but for me, I don't have
enough room in my windowbecause, you know, I have a
little thing that's like thisbig, it's not little eight you
know, it's only you know, eightlights.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (25:17):
Yeah, no, I mean because well, half black and
half recon over here.
So that then, you know, whateverHanukkah Hanukkah stuff,
whatever uh oh my god, I justlost it.
Wow.
That's not good.
That's whatever betweenChristmas and um oh my goodness.
Oh my god, man.
I just lost it.
What is it, Lou?
New Year's.
New Year's New Year's NewYear's, bro.
(25:37):
Uh uh holiday.
Kwanzaa.
Kwanzaa.
Okay.
All right.
Oh my god.
We were gonna get there at somepoint.
Yeah, you said Hanukkah, bro,and it threw the shit, man.
I'm just saying, listen, yes,all right.
I'm entitled to one.
I'm entitled to one again.
SPEAKER_02 (25:55):
Don't worry, if it wasn't you, it would have been
me.
I would have done it.
Trust me, I know for a fact.
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01 (26:00):
But yeah, it did the Kowanza.
But uh I've never officiallycelebrated Kowanza.
I'm not gonna tell you.
It didn't even come until later,though.
That we all heard about it.
Yeah, I didn't start hearingabout it until like the 90s.
That never was out when we werekids.
Late 80s, early 90s, I thinkthat would say.
Yeah, but bring it up and Inever even bothered.
It was a I'm not gonna lie, butit was a time when I wasn't
celebrating, like I'm gonna tellyou a couple of years that I
(26:21):
didn't celebrate like no kind ofholidays.
Really?
You know, yeah.
Why?
I don't know.
I think I was just maybe in afunky place, you know, in in my
uh early 20s kind of thing, Iguess.
I'm gonna say that.
I mean I was there, but I wasn'tthere.
SPEAKER_02 (26:34):
Yeah, like I was there, but I was like, holiday
was great.
SPEAKER_01 (26:36):
Well, like I said, but then that was when I was
down south.
So I'm going to hang out andparty in Miami, you know, as
opposed to, you know, hang outwith the family real quick and I
come out the door, you know.
I'm gonna go and you know, I wasout somewhere else, you know.
So That makes sense.
I think it was just where I wasat that, you know, at that time
of my life.
SPEAKER_02 (26:52):
Yeah, the holidays are funny, you know.
Sometimes depends on I I've hadholidays where I didn't get much
and didn't have a lot and uhthings weren't going well, you
know.
That sucks, but and then youmove on.
Hopefully you get to the nextplace, you know what I mean?
So But it happens.
Yeah.
And I'm sure everybody's gonethrough that, you know?
SPEAKER_01 (27:10):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, no, definitely.
And that's the PSA I think that,you know, I like to throw in.
SPEAKER_02 (27:14):
You know me.
I you know try to keep your headright.
That's why I think the holidaysare a good thing.
Like I say, it's definitely atherapy thing when you think
about it, because it's all aboutjoy and happiness and people
being polite and everything.
So it kind of comes in at theright time.
SPEAKER_01 (27:27):
Right, yeah.
Like just keep your head right.
Like you said, be nice toeverybody, you know, because you
never know who's feeling whatwhen.
Right.
You know.
Everybody wears a happy face andyou know you never know.
I I I yeah, everybody just tryto keep your head right.
Don't try to overdo what youcan't do, you know.
And time it out.
You don't have to buyeverybody's gift before
Christmas.
Why?
Because there's half thosepeople you're not gonna see
(27:48):
until after Christmas, you know,maybe New Year's or whatever.
And not for nothing.
Better sales are on uh the dayafter Christmas because
everybody's returning shit thatdidn't fit and they gotta get
rid of it and whatnot.
So next day though?
Well, yeah, the 26th, yeah.
Really?
Yeah, man, that whole weekend.
Yeah, well, you know, so likethis year, what Christmas isn't
on Thursday?
SPEAKER_02 (28:08):
It's on a Thursday.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (28:10):
So then you got Friday, Saturday, and Sunday
that people are running aroundreturning stuff, people are
coming back from you know,whatever trips.
SPEAKER_02 (28:16):
It's a crazy time.
I don't even want to be involvedwith that.
SPEAKER_01 (28:18):
Yeah, no, you dude.
You say that now, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (28:20):
You're being for the day after.
SPEAKER_01 (28:22):
Oh man, well, see, I like the crowds.
I like the customer.
Yeah, no, I'm good with it.
I don't want to.
SPEAKER_02 (28:26):
I mean, I can get through it, no problem.
I just go into like new like I'mwalking through Manhattan.
SPEAKER_01 (28:31):
Right, yeah, right.
Yeah, no, no.
So dodging people becausethere's something that somebody
will return you, like, oh shit,you're giving that back.
Yeah, yo, let's switch out, youknow what I mean?
And then, you know, getsomething back, you know, switch
up something that you liked andwhatnot, you know.
So here's the thing, becauseeverybody knows, you know, I'm
into the sneakers.
The problem is that my size ofsneakers goes, they sell out
quick.
SPEAKER_06 (28:51):
It's a common size.
It's a common size.
What is it?
SPEAKER_01 (28:54):
Oh, yeah.
So between yeah, so nine to ten,nine, nine and a half, ten, ten
and a half.
Twelve's another size that's.
Yeah, it's another big one.
So that then, but right there inthat little space, they're sold
out no sooner that they'rehitting the uh, you know, the
the uh the sti this thisfreaking shelves or whatever,
you know what I mean?
And it just it sucks, man,because I missed a color a
(29:16):
couple of colorways.
SPEAKER_02 (29:17):
How many pairs of sneakers you have already?
You don't need any moresneakers, man.
Bro, why bite your tongue?
There's a couple I saw.
You're gonna have to you'regonna have to rent space out
just to put those things awaysoon.
SPEAKER_01 (29:26):
Well not yet.
I can there's some stuff I couldstill do to make it fit in the
room.
Wai she won't be uh, you know,too acceptant of it, but you
know there's still things, youknow.
But yeah, no, listen.
SPEAKER_06 (29:37):
So no, I was saying like uh just wanted to change
topics just a little bit.
I was thinking like so likeChristmas music, right?
We we all know the funnyChristmas songs and all those
songs, but like there's a lot ofsongs that bring up a lot of
debate where people either lovethem or they hate them.
I'm gonna bring up a couple.
(29:58):
So listening to Quham.
Wham, but some people I hearpeople, they go, Oh my god,
that's on again.
SPEAKER_01 (30:10):
In that case, we're gonna talk.
So we're talking more about howmany times it's played.
SPEAKER_06 (30:13):
Well, I think a month time, you're gonna hear it
all the time.
I feel like that song by Wham, Ihear that more than any other
song.
Really?
I feel like it's constantly thatone does come up a lot.
SPEAKER_01 (30:23):
Oh that's funny because I hear So this is
Christmas.
SPEAKER_00 (30:29):
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:30):
That shit right there.
I hear that song, I'm like,fuck, I'm lowering the stage.
I'm like, all right, no, I can'tdo that one, bro.
SPEAKER_06 (30:37):
Yes.
Now, how do people feel now?
This is gonna be probably one ofthe most controversial ones.
How do people feel about MariahCarey's?
I love Maria's.
I remember when it first cameout and I always liked it sits.
You know, there's memes aboutit.
Like um, it's like it's almostThanksgiving.
(30:57):
She's thawing out.
SPEAKER_00 (30:58):
I saw that.
Oh my god.
I saw that.
That's funny.
SPEAKER_01 (31:02):
Yeah, I saw that.
But see, I can deal with thatevery other Christmas because
they play it so freaking much.
It's that it's the opening, too.
SPEAKER_06 (31:09):
It's like din and you're like, oh Christmas.
SPEAKER_01 (31:18):
I don't know, dude.
Oh my god, I can't.
I can't, I can't.
I don't even turn the radio up.
Like, I seriously don't evenhave the radio on in my car.
I just I'm just listening to thehum of the road.
Because I just too muchChristmas shit.
And yeah, yeah.
The youngest child comes homefrom college.
SPEAKER_02 (31:34):
I was in Maryland when that song came out,
actually.
I was living in Maryland whenthat song came.
SPEAKER_01 (31:38):
Oh, dude, I don't even know where I was.
I'm like Twilight Zone for thatfucking song.
SPEAKER_02 (31:41):
I remember that.
SPEAKER_01 (31:42):
Oh, no way.
I remember that.
SPEAKER_02 (31:43):
And I liked it then.
I still like it now.
It's not that it's not thatsong.
It's just it's classic now.
Now, because it's on that listnow where it's gonna, you're
gonna hear it.
Yeah.
No matter what.
The Beatles, Paul McCartney.
Right.
Old school ones, Sinatra, DeanMartin, right?
SPEAKER_06 (31:58):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I remember when that album cameout with Mariah Carey.
That I was in like seventh oreighth grade.
I remember like some girl in myclass was like, I just got this
album.
I was like, okay.
I don't know why you brought itto school.
Right.
Oh, wait, maybe she had aWalkman.
That's right.
That's back in the day.
People had the discussion.
SPEAKER_01 (32:14):
Yeah, she had to work real slow so I wouldn't
skip.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I know that.
Yeah, no, no.
I I I just there's a lot ofsongs I don't mind.
Yeah.
You know, tastes have changed,you know, like Trans uh Siberian
Orchestra.
Like those, like this, yeah,like I was I was gonna talk
about that.
Yeah, I know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
See, I jumped in there.
(32:35):
Sorry, sorry.
No, no, no, no, go ahead.
Tony Bennett.
Well, go ahead, sorry.
Tony Bennett, size SiberianOrchestra.
Yo, I wonder what the remix forthat is.
SPEAKER_06 (32:41):
But it's funny, uh Lou has a funny no knew someone
that was in it right before theyblew up.
SPEAKER_04 (32:48):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (32:49):
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (32:51):
Maybe still listen to the podcast because when you
were, I mean, when when he usedto be he used to be in the
union, so he was the union repfor the.
SPEAKER_00 (32:56):
I don't know if he still does or not.
SPEAKER_02 (32:57):
If he does, well, shout out to him and Merry
Christmas to you guys.
Yeah, yeah.
Thanks for everything.
Help me out with everything.
And help me.
And hope you feel him's good.
But yeah, he's a cool guy, verylaid-back, individual.
Right before they uh blew up, hewas in it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I was like, get out, man.
He and I remember he sent me apicture and I don't I can't look
for it now because I won't Idon't know where I saved it, but
I remember him sending me thepicture.
(33:18):
It was pretty cool.
That's funny.
Yeah.
It's funny how you just bumpinto people and you don't
realize and you're like, and youlook and go, Really?
You were another?
Like, you know, because Iremember that.
Yeah.
Remember when that band cameout, right?
SPEAKER_01 (33:29):
When when all that exactly, you know what that
always reminded me of, bro?
No lie.
Remember the uh back in the day,Revenge of the Nerds?
SPEAKER_00 (33:40):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (33:41):
So everyone's it's like they grew up and they did
that.
And they start, you're right.
Oh my god.
So yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (33:51):
You know the only difference is they got a little
metal element to it.
SPEAKER_01 (33:54):
They added a metal, and that's what changed it up a
little bit.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (33:57):
Yeah, without the metal element or nothing.
SPEAKER_01 (34:00):
Exactly, bro.
Exactly.
You know?
No, I I I I I will say though,serious shit.
SPEAKER_02 (34:08):
Tony Bennett.
All right, a few of my favoritethings.
Right, yes.
Great freaking song, man.
Yeah.
It's classic.
I love his version the best outof everything I heard.
Even you know, it's it's awesomebecause it came from the South
of Music, right?
So he does it in such a way, andyou're like, God, he just makes
this song so much better thanthe way he does it.
Right.
It's just so good.
Yeah.
Really, I love it.
And that's like one of myfavorite songs.
SPEAKER_01 (34:30):
So for me, that's one of the songs that when I was
a kid, I'm like, oh my God, weneed something more upbeat, like
something just, you know, alittle bit more just catchy.
And, you know, that's what I'msaying.
Now it's changed because I hadall that catchy, you know, run
DMC and a whole bunch of otherrappers and stuff like that, you
know, making Christmas songs,and then, you know, is that
Trans Siberian Orchestra, listento that a little bit.
(34:50):
You know, you had some of themetal heads, and they had a
couple of, you know, of thatrock Christmas stuff, you know.
SPEAKER_02 (34:56):
The metal guys did their stuff too.
There was some famous songs.
SPEAKER_01 (34:58):
And then the Panatonics, the uh a cappella
group, you know?
Right.
They're they're freakingamazing, you know, and like I
said, tastes have changedbecause now I'm like, yo, this
is cool.
But again, I'll do it like everycouple of days.
I can't sit and listen to theChristmas songs all day.
SPEAKER_02 (35:18):
Well, as long as you're not sitting there all day
long, right?
Look and you're actually buying,I mean, you can always change
the station, right?
I usually are there sometimes.
SPEAKER_01 (35:25):
Every station now has like, you know, for us up
here, I go through threestations and it's, you know,
they're still playing someChristmas song.
And I'm like, oh no, man.
Like I kissed.
If it's a good one, I don't mindit.
Yeah, no, I can't.
I I just all of it.
I just I can't.
Yeah.
I'm mad at having the.
I was supposed to go out and buyan Uggy sweater the other day.
I forgot to do it.
SPEAKER_06 (35:42):
I forgot Twisted Sister did Completely Faithful.
SPEAKER_01 (35:45):
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah.
I bet you nah.
He's he's on tour right now.
I bet you money, he's freakinguh Twisted Sister.
They, I should say, they'redoing it.
They're out on tour.
I bet you money, he's probablysinging that song now.
SPEAKER_06 (35:56):
And when he was doing solo, Rob Halford of Judas
Priests did A Holy Night.
SPEAKER_01 (36:01):
Yes.
I I oh I can't even remember howthat one went.
SPEAKER_06 (36:04):
I'm I bet you Judas Priest did uh Rob Halford, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, a solo project.
But yeah, yeah.
Amon Amarth, they're like aheavy metal band, like Viking,
like heavy metal.
They did Little Drummer Boy.
Yes, for real.
They did that shit.
And Korn did jingle bells.
SPEAKER_01 (36:24):
Yes, that was a good thing, really.
SPEAKER_06 (36:26):
Yeah.
That actually sounded good.
It was pretty good.
It sounded pretty good.
SPEAKER_01 (36:30):
And boys to men, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, tone.
SPEAKER_02 (36:34):
Even in country music.
SPEAKER_01 (36:37):
I like the country music.
Listen, I'm not a country musicperson, neither am I, but my
father loves country musicmusic, man.
I like the country music uhChristmas songs.
SPEAKER_06 (36:47):
I feel like there's a little oh, that's because I
was switching.
He was messing around.
I feel like though, there is alittle bit of a money grab with
that shit too, because they knowthat they're gonna get residual
because it dies every year.
Same thing with the movies,that's why actors always want to
get in Christmas movies becausethey get that residual if it
ends up being like the Christmasmovie.
Like I said, we were talkingabout last week.
Look at what happened.
SPEAKER_01 (37:06):
The Christmas movie a rebranding of Die Hard.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, Die Hard.
And then they say, oh, it's anofficial Christmas movie because
it's happening during Christmasand all this stuff.
Rebranded them, bro.
SPEAKER_06 (37:18):
There was another action movie I was watching the
other day that happened duringChristmas.
I can't remember what it was.
I was like, Tara, this is aChristmas movie because it's
happening during Christmas.
If Die Hard's a Christmas movie,this movie is.
I forget what movie it was.
Oh my God.
unknown (37:29):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (37:30):
Well, it doesn't matter.
But we're Yeah, go ahead, goahead, go ahead.
No, no, but we were talkingabout Christmas last week.
So I mean movies last week.
So, you know.
No, but that's it, but thenthere's Oh no.
No, no, you first, you first.
No, there's and then there'ssongs like that are just corny
for Christmas.
Like Grandma got ran over by acorny, bro.
That is the corniest Christmas!No way.
(37:52):
From our hound, Christmas.
SPEAKER_02 (37:58):
Have you guys got the Indian Christmas grandpa?
I haven't heard the IndianChristmas.
The Indian Christmas when themusic is exactly the same as a
channel.
SPEAKER_06 (38:06):
Dude, my fucking because it's they got the accent
and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00 (38:11):
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (38:12):
Yeah, that's borderline.
Everybody's listening to this.
SPEAKER_00 (38:16):
It's a thing.
Dude, it's not.
SPEAKER_06 (38:17):
You feel guilty laughing at it, but at the same
time, it's hysterical becauseyou're like, this is so fucking
wrong.
How do we know no?
SPEAKER_02 (38:24):
How do we know if it wasn't someone who was actually
Indian and I don't know if it'sfake or real school and they're
laughing at it and rollingaround laughing at us, like,
look at these fucking idiotsmaking a nail about it.
SPEAKER_00 (38:35):
Meanwhile, you pin and I'm Edicans.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (38:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, see, I don't think thatthat's a uh a what you call it.
I don't think that that's acorny song, bro.
Dominic the Donkey.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dominic the Donkey.
SPEAKER_06 (38:52):
The first time I heard that is on my my my father
just had CBS FM on, you know.
Uh-uh, yeah, yeah.
They were playing that shit onthe oldies station.
SPEAKER_01 (39:00):
Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (39:01):
Cousin Brucey in them.
Yes.
That's actually that's probablyYeah, that's exactly what it
was.
SPEAKER_01 (39:05):
Yeah, cousin Brucey playing on that stuff, man.
SPEAKER_06 (39:07):
Bob Shannon.
And they always used to have theuh they used to have the uh echo
in the background because it wassupposed to emulate like they
were in like a dance hall orsomething like that.
SPEAKER_01 (39:16):
Yes, yep.
They have to hop and stuff.
Yeah, oh my god, yo, you guysare hilarious.
That is not a corny one.
But other one, you're gonna tellme he's corny.
What?
You have another one?
He's saying the corny Christmassongs.
SPEAKER_02 (39:26):
I don't know if they I think they all are in their
own way.
Like forcedly Snowman's corny,but still, it's a good story.
I feel like you know, it's abouta magical being that's you know,
comes a certain time of the yearthat you know, imagine that
actually happening.
So when you're a kid and you'rewatching that, you're like, oh,
this is just the greatest shitever.
You know?
SPEAKER_06 (39:44):
I feel the cartoons were great.
I feel like the the more popularones that people like, like the
most famous ones, like from backin the day, I feel like those
ones are very show tuney.
You know what I mean?
I feel I feel like you knowwhat.
I mean like like jingle bell,jingle bell.
Yeah.
Like it's it's it's very showtuney.
(40:06):
I I is that yeah, no no.
SPEAKER_01 (40:08):
It does it makes sense.
You it makes sense.
I hear that.
I think but that's why I thinkwhat made it so catchy, why it's
lasted so long.
That's true.
You know, and then it's just amatter of depending because the
way, like we said before withMariah Carey, the way Mariah
sings it, you know, it's justbrings a whole different touch.
Holly Jolly Christmas.
I love it.
Holly Jolly Christmas.
You see, I love that.
SPEAKER_02 (40:24):
So I can hear that shit.
If you play that at Christmasand it comes up, I'm gonna be
happy.
SPEAKER_01 (40:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're gonna be holly and jolly.
SPEAKER_02 (40:30):
I'm gonna be holly and jolly for sure.
SPEAKER_00 (40:32):
No doubt about it.
That's gonna be your ringtop forthe Holly Jolly.
SPEAKER_06 (40:36):
Without that song, it is not a Holly Jolly
Christmas.
SPEAKER_00 (40:40):
That's funny as hell.
SPEAKER_01 (40:42):
I just I don't it it for me, the songs aren't what
make me happy.
Well, it's the visual.
SPEAKER_06 (40:48):
That's what makes me happy.
I'm the opposite, music.
I feel like yeah, like itChristmas doesn't feel Christmas
without Christmas music.
SPEAKER_01 (40:54):
Yeah, no, you gotta have Christmas music.
No, no, yeah, you gotta have it,but that's not what does it for
me.
The visual stuff, and I'm amusic dude, bro.
I love music all day long.
But I I rather see the Christmasstuff than listen to the
Christmas songs.
SPEAKER_02 (41:08):
Rudolph the red nose ring, dude.
SPEAKER_01 (41:09):
Yeah, see, I'm like, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (41:10):
Rudolph the red nose ring.
SPEAKER_01 (41:12):
So now you just sang it.
I don't need to hear it untilmaybe the end of next year
again.
Uh-huh.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
You're singing it now.
I don't need to hear it.
SPEAKER_02 (41:18):
But I'm not just looking at a list of songs here,
you know?
Uh-huh.
There's a bunch of songs here.
Uh-huh.
How did you like uh Rock Aroundthe Christmas tree?
SPEAKER_01 (41:27):
Which one was that?
SPEAKER_00 (41:29):
Rocking around the Christmas.
SPEAKER_02 (41:33):
That one for me kind of gets on my nerves.
I can only hear it like a fewtimes.
Oh, yeah.
But that particular one's like,all right, switch it over.
SPEAKER_01 (41:40):
But depending on who's singing it or just the
original.
SPEAKER_02 (41:42):
I like the original best.
Okay.
Gotcha.
I got it.
For me, an original.
Yeah, I got it.
Uh Feliz Navidad.
SPEAKER_01 (41:48):
Feliz Navidad.
SPEAKER_02 (41:50):
Santa Claus is coming to town.
Yeah.
Great song.
Now you have differentrenditions of that, right?
Because Bruce Springsteen is hisown.
I can't eat that dude, bro.
And I love that one.
I cannot.
SPEAKER_00 (42:00):
That one is great when he does that one.
Got the sacks.
You know, he does a whole thing.
Yeah, no, I can't.
I love that one.
But you notice?
SPEAKER_01 (42:07):
I know people get mad at me.
I know.
Well, people can get mad at me,bro.
Gotta use words, bro.
He's like, he's like thinkinglike I'm not a Springsteen fan.
I'm not a Springsteen fan likethat.
SPEAKER_05 (42:17):
Yeah, I, you know, I'm never a big Springsteen fan
either.
But that's the one.
And of course I'm the Jerseyguy.
SPEAKER_02 (42:23):
I'm supposed to be a Springsteens fan.
But no, I think I I'm not a bigSpringsteen fan either.
But for that song for Christmas,it was a classic song from a
different audience, and itsounded good.
Yeah.
No, I get I hear it.
No, I get it.
SPEAKER_00 (42:34):
I like that one.
SPEAKER_01 (42:34):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (42:35):
Yeah, I'm like, ugh, uh, yeah, no.
That's a joke.
You guys don't know what you'remissing, man.
Right?
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I can't, bro.
I just The most wonderful timeof the year is one of my other
favorite.
Who's singing it?
Is that Ben Crosby?
No, it's Danny uh Danny Kay.
I think so.
SPEAKER_01 (42:53):
Yeah.
Yep, yep, yep.
I'm going on with it.
SPEAKER_00 (42:56):
Wonderful time of the year.
SPEAKER_01 (42:59):
Oh, oh, I'm lying, bro.
I forgot.
I forgot.
Which one?
So, an album.
Sound soul orchestra.
That was a freaking discussionat Christmas.
That right there, I'll listen tothat shit.
That was pretty good again.
SPEAKER_02 (43:14):
That would get on my nerves after a while, too.
I'd have to throw the fucking CDout the window.
SPEAKER_00 (43:17):
And I'd smash up the fucking building next to me.
Fuck! It's a good thing youcan't get to my phone.
Matter of fact, I'm about toplay that shit right now.
And that shows how old I ambecause I'm thinking CD.
I'm like that.
I didn't want to say nothing,bro.
SPEAKER_01 (43:30):
I was gonna leave that alone.
But seriously.
SPEAKER_00 (43:32):
That's where I'm at.
I'll do that.
SPEAKER_01 (43:34):
Yeah.
Brum brum brum boom bum pum.
And it was just like a lot ofthe the beat that you could
dance to the whole disco.
Well, again, that's the discocase.
Each his own, my friend.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02 (43:47):
Especially if you're in your groove and you're in
your house by yourself and yougot the decorations and the
music playing.
Yeah.
And you go in your own littleworld, like you're that kid that
used to be in the mirror with apaintbrush singing in the mirror
like you were a rock star.
SPEAKER_01 (43:58):
Yep.
Yeah.
Matter of fact, I might go homeand uh blast that shit because
wifey's not home tonight.
She'll be home later.
Okay.
And uh so I might turn aroundand get in and start playing
this.
Nice.
Yeah, I'll send you guys thevideo.
All right.
Nice.
Yes.
But so with that, my gentlemen,it is Tom.
My brethren, I appreciate y'allfor being here with me.
(44:19):
You're welcome, brother.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
And you know, Merry Christmas.
And you're still gonna be there.
Happy Hanukkah, happy Kwans.
SPEAKER_02 (44:27):
And happy everything else.
Of course, we don't know it all,but to all of you as well.
Yes, happy holidays.
Thank you for having me.
Happy here with us.
Happy holidays.
Happy holidays.
SPEAKER_01 (44:39):
Yeah, that's it.
Yes.
So appreciate you guys.
Thank you for being here.
Love, peace, and hair grease.
Live long and prosper and staymerry.
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people.
Oh, I'm getting the I always sayJimmy Kimmel and Fallon.
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That's gonna be awesome.
SPEAKER_00 (01:06):
Hey you guys.
SPEAKER_01 (01:07):
Oh god.
I love it.
Can't wait.
Hell yeah.
But yeah, so going with our uhidea of sticking with the uh
holidays.
So the holidays.
No, we were in the month ofDecember now.
I know, it's freaking great,isn't it?
Right.
See, this is what I'm saying.
Now I'm ready for Christmas.
Not back in November when it wasuh scarvy.
(01:28):
I know.
Now I'm ready, ready, ready.
So yes, I can't wait, man.
You guys set up already?
SPEAKER_00 (01:35):
You guys are like my wife takes care of everything.
SPEAKER_02 (01:37):
Well, I mean it's a good one.
We're doing this one for thatone and we're doing them.
I'm like perfect.
Everything's great.
We we yeah, we set up.
If I had to do it, I could doit.
You know what I'm saying?
If I had to do it, I could doit, but most of the time it's
just better that she just doesit anyway.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I still buy gifts, butnot on the level that she's at
because she's like at everybody.
SPEAKER_01 (01:55):
Well, you're right.
So she does everybody's realshopping, you get like the
little stuff for her for maybelike something extra for the
kids or something like that.
Yeah, stuff like that.
Yeah, I got you.
Yeah, I got you.
And Tom, you didn't get a chanceto finish the outdoors.
Oh man, yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (02:09):
It it's like, you know what?
I'm just gonna pay attention.
I hate, I I I hate to go withlike consensus, but if everybody
else is doing it, is whatbecause everybody put up their
Halloween their how I I can't.
Can't stop saying Halloween.
I love Halloween so freakingmuch.
No, no, I they everybody startedputting up their Christmas
decorations the weekend beforeThanksgiving.
(02:29):
And you know, I I got the samematerial you do.
I'm not that's not going up tillafter Thanksgiving.
Right.
Well, I should have put it upanyway, just the outdoor
decorations because they got itwas like raining the next
weekend, this weekend it'ssnowing.
Right.
And we managed to get like acouple up like la this Monday,
but it was like the temperaturelight dropped in a flash.
Oh wow.
So I was like, we put up like weput up like four or five
(02:51):
inflatables, and we're like, allright, let's go in, we're gonna
finish this another day, andthen you know, it's just well,
did you do every day is better?
I was already wearing the LongJohns, man.
SPEAKER_01 (02:58):
Dude, yeah, hell yeah.
We're making thermos right now.
It's cool outside.
But did you take and decoratesome of your Halloween stuff
that was outside to intoChristmas stuff?
I thought one of them you saidthat uh you're putting the the
Santa Claus hat on what, theskeleton, I think.
SPEAKER_06 (03:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we got Bobby Bones, as Imentioned before.
He's got the skeleton he's gotthe Santa hat on.
And then we have the fromNightmare Before Christmas, our
wreath is the wreath, thehaunted wreath with the nice
man.
SPEAKER_01 (03:24):
That's what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_02 (03:26):
That's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_01 (03:26):
See, I love it.
That's the I and that's what Idid.
Because so, dude, you know, Iwent to the store, I went to go
find a giant hat for myjack-o'-lantern that I got
sitting in my front seat.
Yeah.
They don't have a big enoughone, bro.
So my feelings are kind of hurt.
The jack-o' lantern is the giantis, yeah.
Well, no, no.
So it's a pumpkin head, youknow?
Well, he's got like the pilgrimhat on now.
unknown (03:45):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (03:45):
Right?
So I need something that's gonnabe able to get that can tuck in
that hat.
But there's nothing, like I needit, bro.
If so, if it's like a uh uh 536size hat, I need it like a four.
I mean a six.
So just like to stuff everythinginto that, and then it'll sit
just right on his head, you knowwhat I mean?
Gotcha.
So I'm gonna have to figure outsomething real quickie because I
(04:07):
mean we only got a few weekstill Christmas, so I gotta come
up with something really, reallygroovy to make that happen.
But yeah, it's great.
And I said now you do you know,shot the Christmas lists are
already in, and oh no, I'mlying, I'm missing two and two
people Christmas lists.
So with that, they just gonnaget nothing, nigga and shit.
(04:27):
Now I'm lying.
I'm lying, I'm not gonna I getthem something, but it's gonna
be something I want them to getnow.
So yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (04:33):
But yeah, I don't like I said, I don't do a lot of
the shopping, but I know the thespecific things I need to get
for the close people, you know,like my wife, my kids, or
grandchildren or whatever likethat.
Yeah.
So uh and I already already gotI think I already got one of my
grandchildren something already.
It was like a good learning toy,help out.
But it was fun at the same time,kind of thing.
(04:53):
So that's the kind of stuff I'mlooking at.
And then of course Tanya.
I got her whatever she likes andshe does the same thing for me.
We pretty much already know whatwe're getting, but we still go
through through the wholerapping and everything and
tradition, you know, just to doit.
SPEAKER_01 (05:07):
Yeah, that's cool, that's good.
How about you, Tom?
You got anybody stepping out?
It's always fun to openpresents.
Any what?
Oh yeah, you got everybody yougotta get.
SPEAKER_06 (05:13):
Like you get Santa Claus went and got chased his
stuff and I mean, like I said,Tara and I, we don't we don't
exchange gifts.
You don't?
No, because you know what itwas?
When we first moved in together,we were like, we're like, yeah,
we're doing joint checkingaccount, even though we weren't
even engaged yet.
We were just boyfriend andgirlfriend living together, you
know?
(05:33):
Uh we're like, we're gonna dojoint checking account.
It's just easier because I don'twant to have to say, oh, you pay
for this, I pay for that.
So we did that, and then we'relike, look, gifts are kind of
stupid now because like youknow, we spent it.
I'm buying it myself.
Right.
You know what I mean?
So we're like, yeah, you know,so what we do is we we we go out
for a nice meal.
We like do a date night, like alike a ball or date night.
SPEAKER_04 (05:55):
Yeah, you know, we're like, oh, we're gonna
order, you know, going to TacoBell, baby.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (06:00):
Oh, we're upgrading from Taco Bell to Chipotle.
SPEAKER_04 (06:04):
Woohoo! No, we go to like a nice restaurant, we order
lots of appetizers, desserts.
SPEAKER_01 (06:11):
Right, you know, you take taste, or you like give
them some Benadryl and leavethem home.
Benadryl.
SPEAKER_06 (06:18):
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nah, it's just a day night, youknow.
That's cool, that's good.
SPEAKER_01 (06:22):
I didn't that's not a bad idea.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, see, so my little thing isthat well, my problem is that
Christmas, and then second weekof January is the wife's
birthday.
So you gotta split it up.
Well, I got right, so I have tosplit it up.
My son is in December.
See, so but my son Jason, hisbirthday is the first of January
(06:43):
1st.
He's a New Year's baby.
Right.
So it's Christmas and then NewYear's right there.
Gotcha.
So you know.
Yeah.
At least the other two well, ohno, yeah, because Maggie and I
are in October.
Samantha and Andrew are in thebeginning of September.
Middle week of September, andthen wife and Jason are January,
(07:04):
so they're closer to theChristmas shit.
I'm like, Dag nabbit.
And like, we don't want like noone big gift.
We're gonna have the bread.
I'm like, well, check this out.
You're lucky you're gettingsomething.
No, I'm kidding.
You know, I gotta I do I go allout.
I don't go all out, but I try todo, you know, make them as, you
know, try to get them the stuffthat they've heard them speak on
and such.
SPEAKER_02 (07:23):
So Yeah.
Have you ever always stayed inone place for Christmas, or you
always go somewhere different?
You travel, you go to or is italways the same every year?
So you know, this person'shouse, that person's gonna be a
good one.
SPEAKER_01 (07:35):
When I was a kid, we used to kind of like travel back
and forth and stuff like that.
And not so much like out ofstate, just different
neighborhood, you know what Imean?
Right.
But as I've gotten older,basically stayed in the same
area, you know?
Well, yeah, when the kids weregrowing up, it was basically
stayed in the same area.
SPEAKER_06 (07:51):
Yeah, for me, like it was just like most all my
family lived in state.
So like we never really traveledfor that.
The only family I did have thatwas out of state the one time we
went to my grandmother's houseand she lived in Florida, and we
were like, oh, well, we youknow, she was like an hour and a
half from Disney.
We went because she lived inOcala.
We went to, you know, we wentone year for like Disney.
(08:13):
I think we were there on likeNew Year's Eve at Magic Kingdom.
Yeah.
It must have been fireworks andall of that.
It was cool, but it was afucking shit show.
Oh my god.
It's it is the crowded.
It is the most crowded at Disneyduring the holidays.
Really by far.
Higher than the summer.
It I've never seen it thatcrowded in my life before.
SPEAKER_02 (08:35):
That makes sense.
SPEAKER_06 (08:35):
Like it's Christmas.
Holidays are like of Disney.
Yeah, Disney.
We didn't think it was gonna be.
So like you're in like for ashock because you're like, oh,
it's like, ah, there's probablynot gonna be a lot of people
because people are doing, youknow, whatever.
No, some people like that'stheir destination for the
holidays.
That's crazy.
I never even thought about that.
I didn't think it was gonna bethat kind of ex that kind of
crowded.
(08:56):
People are off from school, it'sa good time, you know.
But it's a I mean, good, it's itit's a a time when you could
bring the family there, youknow.
Uh and if I guess if you don'thave a lot of family or you're
just like uh, you know, you goto it's a it's it's it's decent,
but it's just so crowded.
Yeah, it's like I can imagine.
And that's before and when Iwent, that was before they did
fast passes and all that.
SPEAKER_02 (09:15):
So you had those friends, you know.
Oh no, we didn't go to Disney.
We went to I went to what is theother one in Florida?
Uh University, yeah.
Went there to uh duringHalloween season.
Did the you know the scarething.
SPEAKER_01 (09:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (09:30):
Never did that during Christmas.
I wonder if they do anything forChristmas on the even if they
were open.
Are they open all year around?
I guess they are.
SPEAKER_01 (09:35):
I'm gonna have to say yeah.
Because I mean if they're gonnabe down there for for uh
Christmas time at Disney, thenthey've gotta have that open and
have some kind of, you know,adult Christmas.
SPEAKER_02 (09:43):
Christmas as long as the weather is holding up.
SPEAKER_01 (09:45):
They must close for a certain amount of time at some
point in the season.
Maybe.
Well, I know they said they doclose off certain um uh parts of
the park, you know, it's certaintheme.
Like, you know, like they hadthe Harry Potter, they closed
that down but leave the rest ofit open while they were, you
know, cleaning it up or settingit up for the Halloween walk
stuff, you know.
Right.
I know they did that because Isaid I was there once year for
(10:06):
for Halloween.
Right.
But I don't I don't say I wonderwhat they do for Christmas.
SPEAKER_02 (10:10):
I'm gonna have to call my sister and be like, hey,
would you have a I couldprobably ask Tanya because her
sister used to work at Disneyand she she would know.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (10:17):
She was there for a while.
That's great though.
That is great.
I would I wouldn't mind.
See, so when I lived in Florida,I I I couldn't get my head
wrapped around it's freakingwarm for Christmas.
You know, like I didn't evenknow it was Christmas my first
year out there, bro.
Because it was like it was sohot.
Because of the temperature,yeah.
Yeah, no snow.
(10:38):
They're they're they're puttinglights on the freaking on the uh
palm trees.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02 (10:43):
I'm like, what the people still put the decorations
and everything out when you'rethere.
It's yeah, it's pretty uh it'spretty interesting to see, you
know, lizards running around andyou got a Santa Claus standing
on the lawn.
Yeah, that's the yellows,they're like the little lizards.
That's pretty crazy, yeah.
Freaking hilarious.
But you know, it's it's just thesame out there, but you know,
it's warm.
SPEAKER_01 (11:04):
That's it, you know.
And I couldn't wrap my headaround it, bro.
Like there was no snow, therewas no cold.
Like the coldest it got was Imaybe threw on a you know a
bomber kind of thing.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I didn't have a like nowI've got a shirt on.
SPEAKER_02 (11:15):
I think it's like close to 39 or something once.
SPEAKER_01 (11:18):
Yeah, a couple of times that it got down.
Like I know it when you know, Iknow when it, you know, I felt
that when it was 29 degrees, youknow, until maybe, I want to
tell you maybe eight o'clock inthe morning, nine o'clock in the
morning, then it got hot andit's like you're pulling you're
pulling stuff on, like, okay, Idon't know, where's my shorts?
Like it's too hot for this shit,you know.
I mean, but that's us being fromup here, right?
Going down there, so thatanything over, you know, 50
(11:40):
degrees, you're like, all right,cool, we could run out here and
just t-shirts and you know, wifebeaters and keep it moving.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
What the hell's wrong with you?
It's hot, you know.
AC still pumping and shit, youknow what I mean?
SPEAKER_02 (11:53):
I remember when I was down at that that particular
when I was down there, thatThanksgiving was actually
pretty, pretty chilly one.
And I was by the water when Iworked at my job there, Target
at the time.
Target.
Um we were right by the water,so it was it was pretty chilly
that night as far as I had tostand outside and help people to
(12:14):
line and all that shit.
Because it was Black Friday andall that other stuff.
But it was pretty chilly thatnight.
It was pretty crazy.
And then you get home at likethree, four o'clock in the
morning, because they startedearly.
They let me leave at like acertain time, you know, kind of
thing.
So I was like, yeah, whatever,I'm down.
SPEAKER_01 (12:29):
Yeah, you know.
Oh yeah, listen, you know, I I'malways cool with that, you know.
SPEAKER_02 (12:32):
Uh but people decorate though.
SPEAKER_01 (12:34):
Right, yeah.
People go bananas decorating,and it is a different
experience, the decorating whenyou see it in like the warm
climate like that, you know?
Like you know it's great.
SPEAKER_02 (12:44):
You know, sorry, Tom.
No, no, go real quick.
No, not great.
Growing up when I lived inBrooklyn, well, when whenever
you might have, and you go toCropsier Avenue, you go to all
those houses that decorate, likeyou go all out.
Yeah.
All these houses are likefreaking totally decked out.
Yeah.
Uh and you would just go todrive through the neighborhoods
to see the Christmas lights thatpeople put on their houses.
Yeah.
It was fantastic.
(13:05):
Yeah.
You know?
That was fun.
It was a fun thing.
That was a good thing aboutChristmas.
That was always fun too.
Because you know, the lights,the decorations, and how
everybody has a different eye asfar as what they they see or how
they celebrate it, which ispretty interesting.
Yeah, it is.
It's cool.
We're gonna say tough stuff.
That's what I loved about beingin the city as far as that was
concerned.
And my father always decoratedthe hallway.
(13:26):
Oh, oh, that's why you did tellus that.
Yeah, I think I spoke about thisone.
You had the record player outand music playing with Chris
Music and hanging everything.
Yeah.
Up.
Honora one side, Christmas treeon the other.
I love some of the harmonicscoming too.
Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_06 (13:42):
Yes, that's coming.
Oh, Sunday.
SPEAKER_02 (13:44):
Not this one, next Sunday.
SPEAKER_06 (13:45):
Yeah.
The decorations, the thing Ilove is when people get like the
the sound ones with the musicand stuff like that, where they
have like Trans-Siberian office.
Oh, yeah.
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (13:59):
Yeah, I love it.
I love it.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah, but it is, it's freaking,it's insane.
It is freaking insane.
I love that stuff.
I love when when uh I I say Ilike Christmas songs.
You know what I'm saying?
I do like the Christmas songs.
I do enjoy the uh the the theall the festivities.
I I I really dig them.
I'm not even gonna tell youdifferent.
(14:19):
I I'm really, really dig them.
SPEAKER_02 (14:21):
Well that's the whole thing, right?
We talked about this last timeon our last podcast, uh podcast,
excuse me.
About how we it's a it's a goodtime of the year to have it.
You know, you're at the end ofthe year, everybody's stressed
on top of whatever else they gotgoing on, and so they gotta go
shop now.
They're going shopping, thistime, and the other thing.
Just time to hopefully let yourhair down, be with family.
Hopefully things will go in goodfor you, and you're just able to
(14:42):
enjoy the season.
You know, that's what's funabout it, because like again,
the lights, the presents, thefood, except for the fruitcake,
of course.
SPEAKER_01 (14:51):
I don't know.
I I maybe I think maybe I'veheard of one or two people like
in person that I'm like, I lovefruitcake.
Fruitcake.
SPEAKER_02 (14:59):
It's like okay, to each his own.
SPEAKER_01 (15:00):
I mean, I can't really say that's wrong because
you know.
Yeah, no, it wasn't anything forme.
I mean, it lasts what I thinkshelf life for a fruitcake is
like five years, something likethat.
You know, I don't know.
It's like a sea ration for thearmy.
SPEAKER_06 (15:12):
I got the first fruitcake that was ever
invented.
It's still moldy or nothing.
Between that and and mincedmeat.
Yeah.
Which isn't even meat, it's justfruit chopped up.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (15:26):
Like dried fruit chopped up, like currant and I
don't like it.
I don't like it.
SPEAKER_01 (15:32):
No, I So that's that's another interesting
thing, right?
SPEAKER_02 (15:35):
The food isn't good, depending on whose house you go
to, of course.
Yeah, right.
Cooking.
Right.
You know, it could be anything,right?
Because we grew up.
I know if I go back to a growingup in the city, most of my
friends were Italian.
My Joe, my friend Joe Cap, who'sPuerto Rican, uh F, I should
say, but he was still his momwas straight up.
And everybody's house wasdifferent.
You know, they had the tree wasalways different.
(15:56):
You know, like again, they havea different way of looking at it
or so it was always interestinggoing to my friends.
I always loved going todifferent people's houses to to
see that stuff and be aroundthem because they love the
holidays so much.
And it was always fun.
They were never crazy.
Right.
You know, it was always laughingand eating and whatever.
And joining each other'scompany.
So that's the that was a funpart about it, you know.
(16:16):
If and if you all lived inBrooklyn, you only had to do
this go house to house, right?
Because you know, oh we gotta godown the block.
Yeah, you gotta go away.
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_06 (16:26):
Awesome.
Right.
Yeah, so that was always fun.
So what are maybe we shouldlet's let's go around and like
what are like dishes that yougrew up, was there any
traditional things that you hadgrowing up during during like
the holidays?
And I I mean well, I know yougot the coquito.
SPEAKER_01 (16:46):
Oh, you mean that kind of food.
Like food and drinks like that.
So then the food, yes, was thehocning and you know, with
almost anything.
So there is the yellow rice andpigeon peas.
And then coquito.
Everybody.
Well, we had the panil, you had,you know, of course, we had the
ham.
Right.
Depending on like Thanksgiving,anyways, it would be like the
turkey.
Right.
But uh, yeah, we had all thatstuff.
(17:07):
The um, oh my goodness, I justlost it.
The uh pateles.
If you know somebody who isgonna make the pateles for you,
papi, listen.
Because they like you.
SPEAKER_06 (17:16):
I know, I know pasteles, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (17:17):
The pateles, bro, if you do get the pateles, that
means you had like you left areally good impression on
somebody for them to go out andmake the pateles.
That's such a chore.
SPEAKER_06 (17:27):
I got it.
I made them with someone withwith with my friend's mother.
I and bro, yeah.
The way she did it is crazy,right?
Labor intensive.
Yeah, dude.
Because the way she would makeit is she would take the
plantains.
Yes.
Uh she did two styles.
She did uh one with yucca andone with plantains.
(17:48):
Uh-huh.
And she put it in the cheesegrater.
Yeah, man.
Yes.
For all it's like uh that's thelabor-intensive part is getting
it that during the putting thatthrough the grater.
That is like you gotta get thattexture, you gotta get it down
to those little pieces, yeah.
And by hand.
Like I think nowadays, I feellike you could probably cook it
(18:09):
up to a kitchen kitchen aid andput the grater setting.
SPEAKER_01 (18:11):
No, yeah, you could.
You could do that.
That would be so much timesaving.
That's the only thing thatyou're saving time on because
think of everything else thatyou have.
Oh, the whole the whole rest ofthe map.
The wrap and you got it.
SPEAKER_06 (18:21):
Well, first you gotta cook all of like the meat
and you know, with the olivesand all that stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (18:27):
Yeah, the big the big the big pot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I know.
So, I mean, like I said, so ifyou did so between the coquito
and the pateles, if you got thatBut not everybody does the
banana leaves, just wax.
SPEAKER_06 (18:38):
No, right.
Some people just use partially.
SPEAKER_02 (18:40):
You have to smash with the pan, that special pan?
Is that or is that a differentone?
With the the uh thing.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_01 (18:47):
You what when you're making the the the bananas, when
you're frying the bananas, thenyou would hit it with the pan,
like thing, thing to flattenthem out so to cook them.
Okay, that's what I'm asking.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The platanos and the maduros,yeah.
Then but to make the the thepateles, that's that's stuff
that's wrapped up in the leaf.
Okay and or into the wax paper.
And when you're gonna eat it,that you just put it in the
(19:08):
boiling water, make sureeverything inside gets nice and
warm and cook and they freezegood too.
They freeze and they last sixmonths easy.
That's if they last six monthsin your house because depending
on who made them, they'rereally, really good.
You know what I'm saying?
And there's different ways tomake them too.
SPEAKER_06 (19:22):
So I feel like I feel like you could because I
mean I made that way before Iwas vegan.
I feel like you could that's aneasy one to veganize.
You just gotta eat vegan meatand just that's uh because the
rest is the rest is vegan stuff.
Yes.
Yeah.
Plantain and and you know, oryouca, you know.
SPEAKER_01 (19:37):
Right, yeah.
Depending on yeah, because yeah,right.
You could do it with fish.
You could make it with uh withmeat, you know, beef, turkey.
Yeah, yeah.
You can make like any whateveralternative.
Yeah.
I mean, if you want to do like aseasoned tofu.
Yeah.
And like anybody else, bro, yougotta remember, bro, it's one of
those things, it's to yourliking, it's to your taste, you
know.
So people like that's differenttoo.
That's right.
Right.
(19:57):
So depending on everybody makesit different too.
Right.
So, you know.
That's cool.
Yeah.
But yeah, and what about you,Tom?
SPEAKER_06 (20:02):
What was your traditional foods?
I mean, we did a lot of these,you know, the typical, you know,
Americana type stuff.
Like we would do the ham for youknow, or turkey and stuffing.
We did do some like like my myfamily, obviously this is before
I was vegan, we did like theseven fishes.
Oh yeah, I've I've heard thatChristmas.
(20:24):
Sometimes someone would do someItalian stuff, maybe like a
someone would make a lasagna inthere, yeah, or a ziti.
Beg zero zini, a little bigzini, a little bit of
brujottana.
You'll know yeah.
I haven't had I haven't.
SPEAKER_01 (20:43):
No, but you know, I can't because I can't have the
lactose.
Yeah.
So I gotta be easy when I'mhaving the cheese.
Unless you're gonna takelactate.
Yeah, I gotta take the pill andwhatnot.
So I might ask why you feed aminute.
Hey, honey, can you make me somepeas?
I want a lasagna.
SPEAKER_02 (20:58):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (20:58):
Yeah.
That's great.
So then with seven fishes, thisis something I never asked
anybody, so I'm gonna ask younow.
Yeah, yeah.
Is it just it doesn't matter howyou make the seven different
kinds of fish?
I know, you know, there's a lotof traditional things people do.
SPEAKER_06 (21:13):
You know, they do the baccala, they do the I know
there's uh there's always likean octopus.
There's always like uh you haduh what's the little smelts?
Okay.
Like that.
Like, you know, fried galamodthat shit.
Right, but you chili, yeah.
Like that stuff was always likethe traditional like the but
(21:36):
like I don't I mean that wasalways but I don't think it was
mandatory.
I think it was like whateveryour family does.
Yeah.
What?
What?
I didn't even hear that.
I got I I I I I've done thecamera.
SPEAKER_01 (21:50):
No, no, no.
I'm saying that, but so ifyou're gonna have um bacala,
right?
Baccalaf for you guys, right?
Bacalau bacala, bacala.
Yeah, same shit.
So that then you had to onlyhave it when it's for me out.
Yeah, no, I'm not a fish guylike that either.
But I'm saying like you wouldhave to make that baccala fried.
You would have to boil the uhcalamari.
(22:11):
Like that's how it went, likethat was the only way to make
them?
Or was that you this year it wasdifferent at recipes?
Well, I'm just not meant.
Like if there was only it wasn'tlike the same thing.
SPEAKER_06 (22:18):
I think it's just like uh it's like that's what's
in there, isn't it?
That my you know, my familymakes, so we make that every
year just because it's like it'sexpected.
Right.
Like those kind of things.
You know what I mean?
But I don't think it was everlike, oh, we gotta make it this
way.
Okay, okay.
It's just that's because youknow what they like, you know.
SPEAKER_01 (22:35):
Right, right.
Yeah, so I I said I'm not a fishguy at all, by no means, you
know.
Yeah.
Uh that's why I'm asking.
Like I've never Yeah.
Yeah, no, no, that's that'swild.
And what about you, Lou?
SPEAKER_02 (22:45):
What was your big uh Well, you know, I grew up in a
Jewish household, so I didn'thave a Christmas tree.
So I we celebrated Hanukkah, butwe did have the decorations
because we decorated thebuilding, so we did celebrate in
a sense.
When I was growing up, it was atmy Aunt Mickey's house.
So if I was eating my AuntMickey's, she would be making
meatballs and spaghetti probablyor something like that.
I don't remember.
But I always I always rememberthat about her.
(23:05):
So we had Christmas there.
So we had a tree there, that'swhat I So I remembered that with
her.
But usually it was chicken, I'msorry, uh luxin coogle, which is
noodles, like egg noodles, andit's in a pan, and everyone has
their own recipe.
Some people have raisins in it,some people don't, some cheese,
it depends on what it is.
My mother just used straight upnoodles, but it was always moist
and soft in the middle, and theoutside was crispy, you know.
(23:27):
And then she also made potatokoogle, which is added potatoes
using a ch uh a cheese grater,you know, just grating and doing
it that way and baking that,same thing.
So that was also good becausethen you had the gravy,
sometimes it was pot roast.
Not a big fan, but it wasn'tbad.
Sometimes turkey, you know.
But yeah, that stuff was reallygood.
And everybody who knows LuxinKugel or or uh potato kogel, you
(23:51):
know what I'm talking about.
And it's always different.
Anybody else makes it it's neverthe same as what you uh you had
when you grow up.
So remember that.
Go to somebody else's house,don't get excited.
Yeah because it may not be thesame as what you get and you
might be disappointed.
SPEAKER_01 (24:04):
Yeah, no.
Pot roasto.
You put what in there?
SPEAKER_02 (24:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So yeah, that was always cool.
And then and then well, yeah, Inever really celebrated till I
married my first wife, and thenI celebrate we had Christmas
tree in the house and all thatother shit.
And then later on my mother putone in.
But the food was always goodbecause even when you went
somewhere different, nine timesout of ten you always ran into
something good.
But that was always fun.
SPEAKER_06 (24:28):
My aunt would make cookies chip and don't they do
like a turnaround?
Sorry, I know, I know, we'regetting used to it.
No, but don't they do like aisn't there like now like a uh
like a like a Jewish version ofthe Christmas tree where they
eat they like decorate it like aHanukkah tree?
SPEAKER_00 (24:44):
Hanukkah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I haven't seen that.
SPEAKER_02 (24:46):
Yeah, I never I never actually seen one, but
I've always heard about it allmy life.
SPEAKER_00 (24:49):
Oh, you're gonna get a Hanukkah bush this year?
SPEAKER_02 (24:51):
I'm like, no.
SPEAKER_00 (24:55):
That's funny.
SPEAKER_02 (24:56):
Hey, I still put a menorah up in my house, even
though we have a Christmas tree.
It's in the window.
I think it's good to have bothof them up.
SPEAKER_01 (25:01):
I mean, you know, and it's your culture, it's your
heritage.
SPEAKER_02 (25:04):
That's I mean, you know, but for me, I don't have
enough room in my windowbecause, you know, I have a
little thing that's like thisbig, it's not little eight you
know, it's only you know, eightlights.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (25:17):
Yeah, no, I mean because well, half black and
half recon over here.
So that then, you know, whateverHanukkah Hanukkah stuff,
whatever uh oh my god, I justlost it.
Wow.
That's not good.
That's whatever betweenChristmas and um oh my goodness.
Oh my god, man.
I just lost it.
What is it, Lou?
New Year's.
New Year's New Year's NewYear's, bro.
(25:37):
Uh uh holiday.
Kwanzaa.
Kwanzaa.
Okay.
All right.
Oh my god.
We were gonna get there at somepoint.
Yeah, you said Hanukkah, bro,and it threw the shit, man.
I'm just saying, listen, yes,all right.
I'm entitled to one.
I'm entitled to one again.
SPEAKER_02 (25:55):
Don't worry, if it wasn't you, it would have been
me.
I would have done it.
Trust me, I know for a fact.
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01 (26:00):
But yeah, it did the Kowanza.
But uh I've never officiallycelebrated Kowanza.
I'm not gonna tell you.
It didn't even come until later,though.
That we all heard about it.
Yeah, I didn't start hearingabout it until like the 90s.
That never was out when we werekids.
Late 80s, early 90s, I thinkthat would say.
Yeah, but bring it up and Inever even bothered.
It was a I'm not gonna lie, butit was a time when I wasn't
celebrating, like I'm gonna tellyou a couple of years that I
(26:21):
didn't celebrate like no kind ofholidays.
Really?
You know, yeah.
Why?
I don't know.
I think I was just maybe in afunky place, you know, in in my
uh early 20s kind of thing, Iguess.
I'm gonna say that.
I mean I was there, but I wasn'tthere.
SPEAKER_02 (26:34):
Yeah, like I was there, but I was like, holiday
was great.
SPEAKER_01 (26:36):
Well, like I said, but then that was when I was
down south.
So I'm going to hang out andparty in Miami, you know, as
opposed to, you know, hang outwith the family real quick and I
come out the door, you know.
I'm gonna go and you know, I wasout somewhere else, you know.
So That makes sense.
I think it was just where I wasat that, you know, at that time
of my life.
SPEAKER_02 (26:52):
Yeah, the holidays are funny, you know.
Sometimes depends on I I've hadholidays where I didn't get much
and didn't have a lot and uhthings weren't going well, you
know.
That sucks, but and then youmove on.
Hopefully you get to the nextplace, you know what I mean?
So But it happens.
Yeah.
And I'm sure everybody's gonethrough that, you know?
SPEAKER_01 (27:10):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, no, definitely.
And that's the PSA I think that,you know, I like to throw in.
SPEAKER_02 (27:14):
You know me.
I you know try to keep your headright.
That's why I think the holidaysare a good thing.
Like I say, it's definitely atherapy thing when you think
about it, because it's all aboutjoy and happiness and people
being polite and everything.
So it kind of comes in at theright time.
SPEAKER_01 (27:27):
Right, yeah.
Like just keep your head right.
Like you said, be nice toeverybody, you know, because you
never know who's feeling whatwhen.
Right.
You know.
Everybody wears a happy face andyou know you never know.
I I I yeah, everybody just tryto keep your head right.
Don't try to overdo what youcan't do, you know.
And time it out.
You don't have to buyeverybody's gift before
Christmas.
Why?
Because there's half thosepeople you're not gonna see
(27:48):
until after Christmas, you know,maybe New Year's or whatever.
And not for nothing.
Better sales are on uh the dayafter Christmas because
everybody's returning shit thatdidn't fit and they gotta get
rid of it and whatnot.
So next day though?
Well, yeah, the 26th, yeah.
Really?
Yeah, man, that whole weekend.
Yeah, well, you know, so likethis year, what Christmas isn't
on Thursday?
SPEAKER_02 (28:08):
It's on a Thursday.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (28:10):
So then you got Friday, Saturday, and Sunday
that people are running aroundreturning stuff, people are
coming back from you know,whatever trips.
SPEAKER_02 (28:16):
It's a crazy time.
I don't even want to be involvedwith that.
SPEAKER_01 (28:18):
Yeah, no, you dude.
You say that now, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (28:20):
You're being for the day after.
SPEAKER_01 (28:22):
Oh man, well, see, I like the crowds.
I like the customer.
Yeah, no, I'm good with it.
I don't want to.
SPEAKER_02 (28:26):
I mean, I can get through it, no problem.
I just go into like new like I'mwalking through Manhattan.
SPEAKER_01 (28:31):
Right, yeah, right.
Yeah, no, no.
So dodging people becausethere's something that somebody
will return you, like, oh shit,you're giving that back.
Yeah, yo, let's switch out, youknow what I mean?
And then, you know, getsomething back, you know, switch
up something that you liked andwhatnot, you know.
So here's the thing, becauseeverybody knows, you know, I'm
into the sneakers.
The problem is that my size ofsneakers goes, they sell out
quick.
SPEAKER_06 (28:51):
It's a common size.
It's a common size.
What is it?
SPEAKER_01 (28:54):
Oh, yeah.
So between yeah, so nine to ten,nine, nine and a half, ten, ten
and a half.
Twelve's another size that's.
Yeah, it's another big one.
So that then, but right there inthat little space, they're sold
out no sooner that they'rehitting the uh, you know, the
the uh the sti this thisfreaking shelves or whatever,
you know what I mean?
And it just it sucks, man,because I missed a color a
(29:16):
couple of colorways.
SPEAKER_02 (29:17):
How many pairs of sneakers you have already?
You don't need any moresneakers, man.
Bro, why bite your tongue?
There's a couple I saw.
You're gonna have to you'regonna have to rent space out
just to put those things awaysoon.
SPEAKER_01 (29:26):
Well not yet.
I can there's some stuff I couldstill do to make it fit in the
room.
Wai she won't be uh, you know,too acceptant of it, but you
know there's still things, youknow.
But yeah, no, listen.
SPEAKER_06 (29:37):
So no, I was saying like uh just wanted to change
topics just a little bit.
I was thinking like so likeChristmas music, right?
We we all know the funnyChristmas songs and all those
songs, but like there's a lot ofsongs that bring up a lot of
debate where people either lovethem or they hate them.
I'm gonna bring up a couple.
(29:58):
So listening to Quham.
Wham, but some people I hearpeople, they go, Oh my god,
that's on again.
SPEAKER_01 (30:10):
In that case, we're gonna talk.
So we're talking more about howmany times it's played.
SPEAKER_06 (30:13):
Well, I think a month time, you're gonna hear it
all the time.
I feel like that song by Wham, Ihear that more than any other
song.
Really?
I feel like it's constantly thatone does come up a lot.
SPEAKER_01 (30:23):
Oh that's funny because I hear So this is
Christmas.
SPEAKER_00 (30:29):
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:30):
That shit right there.
I hear that song, I'm like,fuck, I'm lowering the stage.
I'm like, all right, no, I can'tdo that one, bro.
SPEAKER_06 (30:37):
Yes.
Now, how do people feel now?
This is gonna be probably one ofthe most controversial ones.
How do people feel about MariahCarey's?
I love Maria's.
I remember when it first cameout and I always liked it sits.
You know, there's memes aboutit.
Like um, it's like it's almostThanksgiving.
(30:57):
She's thawing out.
SPEAKER_00 (30:58):
I saw that.
Oh my god.
I saw that.
That's funny.
SPEAKER_01 (31:02):
Yeah, I saw that.
But see, I can deal with thatevery other Christmas because
they play it so freaking much.
It's that it's the opening, too.
SPEAKER_06 (31:09):
It's like din and you're like, oh Christmas.
SPEAKER_01 (31:18):
I don't know, dude.
Oh my god, I can't.
I can't, I can't.
I don't even turn the radio up.
Like, I seriously don't evenhave the radio on in my car.
I just I'm just listening to thehum of the road.
Because I just too muchChristmas shit.
And yeah, yeah.
The youngest child comes homefrom college.
SPEAKER_02 (31:34):
I was in Maryland when that song came out,
actually.
I was living in Maryland whenthat song came.
SPEAKER_01 (31:38):
Oh, dude, I don't even know where I was.
I'm like Twilight Zone for thatfucking song.
SPEAKER_02 (31:41):
I remember that.
SPEAKER_01 (31:42):
Oh, no way.
I remember that.
SPEAKER_02 (31:43):
And I liked it then.
I still like it now.
It's not that it's not thatsong.
It's just it's classic now.
Now, because it's on that listnow where it's gonna, you're
gonna hear it.
Yeah.
No matter what.
The Beatles, Paul McCartney.
Right.
Old school ones, Sinatra, DeanMartin, right?
SPEAKER_06 (31:58):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I remember when that album cameout with Mariah Carey.
That I was in like seventh oreighth grade.
I remember like some girl in myclass was like, I just got this
album.
I was like, okay.
I don't know why you brought itto school.
Right.
Oh, wait, maybe she had aWalkman.
That's right.
That's back in the day.
People had the discussion.
SPEAKER_01 (32:14):
Yeah, she had to work real slow so I wouldn't
skip.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I know that.
Yeah, no, no.
I I I just there's a lot ofsongs I don't mind.
Yeah.
You know, tastes have changed,you know, like Trans uh Siberian
Orchestra.
Like those, like this, yeah,like I was I was gonna talk
about that.
Yeah, I know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
See, I jumped in there.
(32:35):
Sorry, sorry.
No, no, no, no, go ahead.
Tony Bennett.
Well, go ahead, sorry.
Tony Bennett, size SiberianOrchestra.
Yo, I wonder what the remix forthat is.
SPEAKER_06 (32:41):
But it's funny, uh Lou has a funny no knew someone
that was in it right before theyblew up.
SPEAKER_04 (32:48):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (32:49):
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (32:51):
Maybe still listen to the podcast because when you
were, I mean, when when he usedto be he used to be in the
union, so he was the union repfor the.
SPEAKER_00 (32:56):
I don't know if he still does or not.
SPEAKER_02 (32:57):
If he does, well, shout out to him and Merry
Christmas to you guys.
Yeah, yeah.
Thanks for everything.
Help me out with everything.
And help me.
And hope you feel him's good.
But yeah, he's a cool guy, verylaid-back, individual.
Right before they uh blew up, hewas in it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I was like, get out, man.
He and I remember he sent me apicture and I don't I can't look
for it now because I won't Idon't know where I saved it, but
I remember him sending me thepicture.
(33:18):
It was pretty cool.
That's funny.
Yeah.
It's funny how you just bumpinto people and you don't
realize and you're like, and youlook and go, Really?
You were another?
Like, you know, because Iremember that.
Yeah.
Remember when that band cameout, right?
SPEAKER_01 (33:29):
When when all that exactly, you know what that
always reminded me of, bro?
No lie.
Remember the uh back in the day,Revenge of the Nerds?
SPEAKER_00 (33:40):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (33:41):
So everyone's it's like they grew up and they did
that.
And they start, you're right.
Oh my god.
So yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (33:51):
You know the only difference is they got a little
metal element to it.
SPEAKER_01 (33:54):
They added a metal, and that's what changed it up a
little bit.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (33:57):
Yeah, without the metal element or nothing.
SPEAKER_01 (34:00):
Exactly, bro.
Exactly.
You know?
No, I I I I I will say though,serious shit.
SPEAKER_02 (34:08):
Tony Bennett.
All right, a few of my favoritethings.
Right, yes.
Great freaking song, man.
Yeah.
It's classic.
I love his version the best outof everything I heard.
Even you know, it's it's awesomebecause it came from the South
of Music, right?
So he does it in such a way, andyou're like, God, he just makes
this song so much better thanthe way he does it.
Right.
It's just so good.
Yeah.
Really, I love it.
And that's like one of myfavorite songs.
SPEAKER_01 (34:30):
So for me, that's one of the songs that when I was
a kid, I'm like, oh my God, weneed something more upbeat, like
something just, you know, alittle bit more just catchy.
And, you know, that's what I'msaying.
Now it's changed because I hadall that catchy, you know, run
DMC and a whole bunch of otherrappers and stuff like that, you
know, making Christmas songs,and then, you know, is that
Trans Siberian Orchestra, listento that a little bit.
(34:50):
You know, you had some of themetal heads, and they had a
couple of, you know, of thatrock Christmas stuff, you know.
SPEAKER_02 (34:56):
The metal guys did their stuff too.
There was some famous songs.
SPEAKER_01 (34:58):
And then the Panatonics, the uh a cappella
group, you know?
Right.
They're they're freakingamazing, you know, and like I
said, tastes have changedbecause now I'm like, yo, this
is cool.
But again, I'll do it like everycouple of days.
I can't sit and listen to theChristmas songs all day.
SPEAKER_02 (35:18):
Well, as long as you're not sitting there all day
long, right?
Look and you're actually buying,I mean, you can always change
the station, right?
I usually are there sometimes.
SPEAKER_01 (35:25):
Every station now has like, you know, for us up
here, I go through threestations and it's, you know,
they're still playing someChristmas song.
And I'm like, oh no, man.
Like I kissed.
If it's a good one, I don't mindit.
Yeah, no, I can't.
I I just all of it.
I just I can't.
Yeah.
I'm mad at having the.
I was supposed to go out and buyan Uggy sweater the other day.
I forgot to do it.
SPEAKER_06 (35:42):
I forgot Twisted Sister did Completely Faithful.
SPEAKER_01 (35:45):
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah.
I bet you nah.
He's he's on tour right now.
I bet you money, he's freakinguh Twisted Sister.
They, I should say, they'redoing it.
They're out on tour.
I bet you money, he's probablysinging that song now.
SPEAKER_06 (35:56):
And when he was doing solo, Rob Halford of Judas
Priests did A Holy Night.
SPEAKER_01 (36:01):
Yes.
I I oh I can't even remember howthat one went.
SPEAKER_06 (36:04):
I'm I bet you Judas Priest did uh Rob Halford, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, a solo project.
But yeah, yeah.
Amon Amarth, they're like aheavy metal band, like Viking,
like heavy metal.
They did Little Drummer Boy.
Yes, for real.
They did that shit.
And Korn did jingle bells.
SPEAKER_01 (36:24):
Yes, that was a good thing, really.
SPEAKER_06 (36:26):
Yeah.
That actually sounded good.
It was pretty good.
It sounded pretty good.
SPEAKER_01 (36:30):
And boys to men, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, tone.
SPEAKER_02 (36:34):
Even in country music.
SPEAKER_01 (36:37):
I like the country music.
Listen, I'm not a country musicperson, neither am I, but my
father loves country musicmusic, man.
I like the country music uhChristmas songs.
SPEAKER_06 (36:47):
I feel like there's a little oh, that's because I
was switching.
He was messing around.
I feel like though, there is alittle bit of a money grab with
that shit too, because they knowthat they're gonna get residual
because it dies every year.
Same thing with the movies,that's why actors always want to
get in Christmas movies becausethey get that residual if it
ends up being like the Christmasmovie.
Like I said, we were talkingabout last week.
Look at what happened.
SPEAKER_01 (37:06):
The Christmas movie a rebranding of Die Hard.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, Die Hard.
And then they say, oh, it's anofficial Christmas movie because
it's happening during Christmasand all this stuff.
Rebranded them, bro.
SPEAKER_06 (37:18):
There was another action movie I was watching the
other day that happened duringChristmas.
I can't remember what it was.
I was like, Tara, this is aChristmas movie because it's
happening during Christmas.
If Die Hard's a Christmas movie,this movie is.
I forget what movie it was.
Oh my God.
unknown (37:29):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (37:30):
Well, it doesn't matter.
But we're Yeah, go ahead, goahead, go ahead.
No, no, but we were talkingabout Christmas last week.
So I mean movies last week.
So, you know.
No, but that's it, but thenthere's Oh no.
No, no, you first, you first.
No, there's and then there'ssongs like that are just corny
for Christmas.
Like Grandma got ran over by acorny, bro.
That is the corniest Christmas!No way.
(37:52):
From our hound, Christmas.
SPEAKER_02 (37:58):
Have you guys got the Indian Christmas grandpa?
I haven't heard the IndianChristmas.
The Indian Christmas when themusic is exactly the same as a
channel.
SPEAKER_06 (38:06):
Dude, my fucking because it's they got the accent
and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00 (38:11):
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (38:12):
Yeah, that's borderline.
Everybody's listening to this.
SPEAKER_00 (38:16):
It's a thing.
Dude, it's not.
SPEAKER_06 (38:17):
You feel guilty laughing at it, but at the same
time, it's hysterical becauseyou're like, this is so fucking
wrong.
How do we know no?
SPEAKER_02 (38:24):
How do we know if it wasn't someone who was actually
Indian and I don't know if it'sfake or real school and they're
laughing at it and rollingaround laughing at us, like,
look at these fucking idiotsmaking a nail about it.
SPEAKER_00 (38:35):
Meanwhile, you pin and I'm Edicans.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (38:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, see, I don't think thatthat's a uh a what you call it.
I don't think that that's acorny song, bro.
Dominic the Donkey.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dominic the Donkey.
SPEAKER_06 (38:52):
The first time I heard that is on my my my father
just had CBS FM on, you know.
Uh-uh, yeah, yeah.
They were playing that shit onthe oldies station.
SPEAKER_01 (39:00):
Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (39:01):
Cousin Brucey in them.
Yes.
That's actually that's probablyYeah, that's exactly what it
was.
SPEAKER_01 (39:05):
Yeah, cousin Brucey playing on that stuff, man.
SPEAKER_06 (39:07):
Bob Shannon.
And they always used to have theuh they used to have the uh echo
in the background because it wassupposed to emulate like they
were in like a dance hall orsomething like that.
SPEAKER_01 (39:16):
Yes, yep.
They have to hop and stuff.
Yeah, oh my god, yo, you guysare hilarious.
That is not a corny one.
But other one, you're gonna tellme he's corny.
What?
You have another one?
He's saying the corny Christmassongs.
SPEAKER_02 (39:26):
I don't know if they I think they all are in their
own way.
Like forcedly Snowman's corny,but still, it's a good story.
I feel like you know, it's abouta magical being that's you know,
comes a certain time of the yearthat you know, imagine that
actually happening.
So when you're a kid and you'rewatching that, you're like, oh,
this is just the greatest shitever.
You know?
SPEAKER_06 (39:44):
I feel the cartoons were great.
I feel like the the more popularones that people like, like the
most famous ones, like from backin the day, I feel like those
ones are very show tuney.
You know what I mean?
I feel I feel like you knowwhat.
I mean like like jingle bell,jingle bell.
Yeah.
Like it's it's it's very showtuney.
(40:06):
I I is that yeah, no no.
SPEAKER_01 (40:08):
It does it makes sense.
You it makes sense.
I hear that.
I think but that's why I thinkwhat made it so catchy, why it's
lasted so long.
That's true.
You know, and then it's just amatter of depending because the
way, like we said before withMariah Carey, the way Mariah
sings it, you know, it's justbrings a whole different touch.
Holly Jolly Christmas.
I love it.
Holly Jolly Christmas.
You see, I love that.
SPEAKER_02 (40:24):
So I can hear that shit.
If you play that at Christmasand it comes up, I'm gonna be
happy.
SPEAKER_01 (40:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're gonna be holly and jolly.
SPEAKER_02 (40:30):
I'm gonna be holly and jolly for sure.
SPEAKER_00 (40:32):
No doubt about it.
That's gonna be your ringtop forthe Holly Jolly.
SPEAKER_06 (40:36):
Without that song, it is not a Holly Jolly
Christmas.
SPEAKER_00 (40:40):
That's funny as hell.
SPEAKER_01 (40:42):
I just I don't it it for me, the songs aren't what
make me happy.
Well, it's the visual.
SPEAKER_06 (40:48):
That's what makes me happy.
I'm the opposite, music.
I feel like yeah, like itChristmas doesn't feel Christmas
without Christmas music.
SPEAKER_01 (40:54):
Yeah, no, you gotta have Christmas music.
No, no, yeah, you gotta have it,but that's not what does it for
me.
The visual stuff, and I'm amusic dude, bro.
I love music all day long.
But I I rather see the Christmasstuff than listen to the
Christmas songs.
SPEAKER_02 (41:08):
Rudolph the red nose ring, dude.
SPEAKER_01 (41:09):
Yeah, see, I'm like, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (41:10):
Rudolph the red nose ring.
SPEAKER_01 (41:12):
So now you just sang it.
I don't need to hear it untilmaybe the end of next year
again.
Uh-huh.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
You're singing it now.
I don't need to hear it.
SPEAKER_02 (41:18):
But I'm not just looking at a list of songs here,
you know?
Uh-huh.
There's a bunch of songs here.
Uh-huh.
How did you like uh Rock Aroundthe Christmas tree?
SPEAKER_01 (41:27):
Which one was that?
SPEAKER_00 (41:29):
Rocking around the Christmas.
SPEAKER_02 (41:33):
That one for me kind of gets on my nerves.
I can only hear it like a fewtimes.
Oh, yeah.
But that particular one's like,all right, switch it over.
SPEAKER_01 (41:40):
But depending on who's singing it or just the
original.
SPEAKER_02 (41:42):
I like the original best.
Okay.
Gotcha.
I got it.
For me, an original.
Yeah, I got it.
Uh Feliz Navidad.
SPEAKER_01 (41:48):
Feliz Navidad.
SPEAKER_02 (41:50):
Santa Claus is coming to town.
Yeah.
Great song.
Now you have differentrenditions of that, right?
Because Bruce Springsteen is hisown.
I can't eat that dude, bro.
And I love that one.
I cannot.
SPEAKER_00 (42:00):
That one is great when he does that one.
Got the sacks.
You know, he does a whole thing.
Yeah, no, I can't.
I love that one.
But you notice?
SPEAKER_01 (42:07):
I know people get mad at me.
I know.
Well, people can get mad at me,bro.
Gotta use words, bro.
He's like, he's like thinkinglike I'm not a Springsteen fan.
I'm not a Springsteen fan likethat.
SPEAKER_05 (42:17):
Yeah, I, you know, I'm never a big Springsteen fan
either.
But that's the one.
And of course I'm the Jerseyguy.
SPEAKER_02 (42:23):
I'm supposed to be a Springsteens fan.
But no, I think I I'm not a bigSpringsteen fan either.
But for that song for Christmas,it was a classic song from a
different audience, and itsounded good.
Yeah.
No, I get I hear it.
No, I get it.
SPEAKER_00 (42:34):
I like that one.
SPEAKER_01 (42:34):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (42:35):
Yeah, I'm like, ugh, uh, yeah, no.
That's a joke.
You guys don't know what you'remissing, man.
Right?
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I can't, bro.
I just The most wonderful timeof the year is one of my other
favorite.
Who's singing it?
Is that Ben Crosby?
No, it's Danny uh Danny Kay.
I think so.
SPEAKER_01 (42:53):
Yeah.
Yep, yep, yep.
I'm going on with it.
SPEAKER_00 (42:56):
Wonderful time of the year.
SPEAKER_01 (42:59):
Oh, oh, I'm lying, bro.
I forgot.
I forgot.
Which one?
So, an album.
Sound soul orchestra.
That was a freaking discussionat Christmas.
That right there, I'll listen tothat shit.
That was pretty good again.
SPEAKER_02 (43:14):
That would get on my nerves after a while, too.
I'd have to throw the fucking CDout the window.
SPEAKER_00 (43:17):
And I'd smash up the fucking building next to me.
Fuck! It's a good thing youcan't get to my phone.
Matter of fact, I'm about toplay that shit right now.
And that shows how old I ambecause I'm thinking CD.
I'm like that.
I didn't want to say nothing,bro.
SPEAKER_01 (43:30):
I was gonna leave that alone.
But seriously.
SPEAKER_00 (43:32):
That's where I'm at.
I'll do that.
SPEAKER_01 (43:34):
Yeah.
Brum brum brum boom bum pum.
And it was just like a lot ofthe the beat that you could
dance to the whole disco.
Well, again, that's the discocase.
Each his own, my friend.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02 (43:47):
Especially if you're in your groove and you're in
your house by yourself and yougot the decorations and the
music playing.
Yeah.
And you go in your own littleworld, like you're that kid that
used to be in the mirror with apaintbrush singing in the mirror
like you were a rock star.
SPEAKER_01 (43:58):
Yep.
Yeah.
Matter of fact, I might go homeand uh blast that shit because
wifey's not home tonight.
She'll be home later.
Okay.
And uh so I might turn aroundand get in and start playing
this.
Nice.
Yeah, I'll send you guys thevideo.
All right.
Nice.
Yes.
But so with that, my gentlemen,it is Tom.
My brethren, I appreciate y'allfor being here with me.
(44:19):
You're welcome, brother.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
And you know, Merry Christmas.
And you're still gonna be there.
Happy Hanukkah, happy Kwans.
SPEAKER_02 (44:27):
And happy everything else.
Of course, we don't know it all,but to all of you as well.
Yes, happy holidays.
Thank you for having me.
Happy here with us.
Happy holidays.
Happy holidays.
SPEAKER_01 (44:39):
Yeah, that's it.
Yes.
So appreciate you guys.
Thank you for being here.
Love, peace, and hair grease.
Live long and prosper and staymerry.
SPEAKER_04 (44:46):
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