November 19, 2025 ⢠47 mins
A thrift-store doll that pulses an EMF to direct questions. A bell rung three times that may have invited something to stay. A red-eyed face peering from a doorway after the team already left the room. This conversation with Nick and Mina of Creepy Crawley Co takes us deep into the lived reality of paranormal investigation, where folklore, fieldwork, and evidence collide.
We swap stories that start in ordinary placesâa home test with a âcleanâ doll, an antique shop findâand end with unsettling patterns: drained batteries, disembodied whispers calling a medium by name, and a next-day âparanormal hangoverâ that feels like an energetic debt. Our guests trace a spine-chilling route through Japanâs Aokigahara forest, bordered by ancient cemeteries and burial mounds, where roots run sideways over volcanic rock and EVPs mimic children. The details mirror Jâhorror for a reason: locals have seen these forms for generations. When Mina later spots black hair slip behind a bookcase at home, the line between film and field evaporates.
We also widen the lens. Could ghosts, cryptids, and UFOs share a common source? From Skinwalker Ranch gear chirping in odd frequencies to Bigfoot vanishing like it stepped through a portal, the data hints at an overlap. Toss in mediumship interfering with electronics, Appalachian rules about ignoring shadow watchers, and the way scentâcigarettes, perfume, mothballsâappears like a message, and the case for a unified phenomenon grows stronger. Whether youâre a skeptic, a believer, or caught between, youâll find moments here that raise the hair on your arms and the questions in your mind.
Stick around to the end for whatâs next: the release of their Aokigahara investigation and upcoming trips to Mexico Cityâs Island of the Dolls and a search for La Llorona, with potential cross-team collaborations. If this gave you chills, follow the show, share it with a friend who loves the weird, and drop your theory in a reviewâwhat do you think those red eyes were?
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SPEAKER_04 (00:08):
Welcome to C C and NJ Guy Podcast.
Your host, Tom Raman, LewisGrover, Kitty Copy.
So we got a special guest on tous tonight.
We have Nick and Mina fromCreepy Crawley Co.
So they are paranormalinvestigators.
(00:29):
So they are paranormalinvestigators.
They do paranormalinvestigations and they're big
horror fans like us.
So what's going on?
Yes, welcome.
Welcome.
Hey, thank you.
SPEAKER_06 (00:39):
Thank you.
SPEAKER_01 (00:40):
Thank you for having us.
SPEAKER_00 (00:42):
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you for saying yeah.
Yeah, Tom.
SPEAKER_05 (00:48):
That is true.
We are a huge horror fan.
Yeah, that's awesome.
That's awesome.
SPEAKER_03 (00:53):
So hey, did you guys not to interrupt, but did you
guys see the Ed Gaines story?
Did you guys watch that?
No, actually, I did not.
You guys should watch that.
Ed Gaines.
SPEAKER_01 (01:03):
Oh no, we should.
SPEAKER_03 (01:05):
You should watch it.
Is it like a doc documentary orlike a film?
It's based on it's based on a uha a gentleman who I don't know
if he was a gentleman, but who'spretty much a mass murderer.
Yeah, he back in the 40s.
SPEAKER_04 (01:16):
Yeah, so he's like a serial killer, like a mass
murderer that a lot of thehorror movies like they they
pulled from him, likeLeatherface.
SPEAKER_03 (01:24):
Right.
SPEAKER_05 (01:24):
Right.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (01:25):
Psycho, Chainsaw Massacre, and Silence of the
Lambs.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (01:30):
Actually, I got a chance to go to Zach Vegas
Museum in Vegas, and they had EdGing's pot where he used to boil
the bone.
SPEAKER_06 (01:37):
No way.
SPEAKER_01 (01:38):
Yeah, it's really cool.
They have a very thin line ofsalt around the pot, and it has
a glass casing, and sometimesthe pot moves outside the salted
line.
SPEAKER_00 (01:49):
Whoa.
Yeah.
No way.
SPEAKER_01 (01:51):
See?
SPEAKER_00 (01:52):
That would freak out.
Yeah, see, Zach has crazy stuffin there.
Yeah, for real.
Yeah, see, Zach has some crazystuff in there, man.
Zach is crazy.
He has that haunted museum.
Yeah, he does.
He's when he's the ghostmixture's guy.
SPEAKER_03 (02:02):
Do you guys have your own building up?
Are you doing your own museum?
No, no museum, but we do have acouple of haunted items.
SPEAKER_05 (02:09):
Ooh, what you got?
Well, there's one doll that youknow happened to find at a
thrift store.
You can tell the story aboutthat one.
SPEAKER_01 (02:16):
Oh, we were originally going to bring a doll
during an investigation andasked if one of the spirits
would like to haunt the doll.
It was our very firstinvestigation, so we were just
like, let's just have fun withit.
Lo and behold, when we went tothe thrift store, I gra I
gravitated towards this one dollfor some reason.
We purchased it and it was like,let's just test it out here at
(02:38):
our house to see if it is anempty doll.
And no joke, it was answeringquestions on the EMF, which is
like basically yeah.
I don't know if you guys knowwhat an EMF is.
It basically reads likeelectronic interference, like
magnetic fields.
SPEAKER_05 (02:52):
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01 (02:53):
But we would be like, Go to red if you're here
with us.
Like go to red.
SPEAKER_05 (02:57):
Yeah, we'll kind of pulsating towards like red for
questions.
SPEAKER_01 (03:01):
It was just on point with everything.
So I was like, Great, I gotalready haunted doll.
No.
SPEAKER_05 (03:08):
Yeah, it's it's shifted too.
Like it's actually kind of movedaround a little bit.
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (03:13):
For a friend of house sitting, yeah.
You see.
There was an open door aroundsomewhere that you can get out
of, right?
SPEAKER_00 (03:20):
Did you keep the seat?
SPEAKER_06 (03:26):
We named him Junior.
SPEAKER_00 (03:28):
Yeah, same as Junior.
Holy cow, that is awesome, man.
That is too much.
Yeah, Seattle lost it.
SPEAKER_05 (03:34):
That that and we actually brought haunted objects
back from Japan.
The one investigation that weposted yesterday was the first
part of that investigation.
So at the end, that that bellycall, the demon face.
SPEAKER_07 (03:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (03:47):
Right.
That officially became what wethink of haunted objects because
of that whole investigation.
SPEAKER_01 (03:53):
It was fully we started thinking it's haunted
because when I was there, Istarted vomiting TMI.
And then when we brought theobject to a convention, 'cause
we are vendors selling art, webrought it to just have people
look at it, and every woman thattouched it, they started saying
how their t chest was tighteningup and they couldn't breathe.
SPEAKER_05 (04:13):
Yeah, it's like kind of like a suffocation.
SPEAKER_01 (04:16):
Yeah, and there's like different time periods
where these women were talkingabout that.
SPEAKER_05 (04:21):
So we think it it doesn't like women too much.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (04:26):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (04:27):
So she's now did you guys end up doing any uh like a
history check on it?
Did you find out or like youknow where it came from, who it
may have belonged to, how old itis?
SPEAKER_05 (04:36):
Yeah.
Well, I checked it out.
It's probably made around likethe sixties or seventies itself.
Uh we picked it up at an antiqueshop in Thailand, at like a
Japanese antique shop there.
But what we did during theinvestigation, when you ring a
bell three times, you'rewelcoming a spirit there in
Japanese folklore.
SPEAKER_01 (04:54):
Yeah.
In other words, we think we gotthe object haunted by welcoming
something.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (05:00):
Oh god.
Now, in that video you guysposted yesterday, d you were
getting a very specific spirit.
Uh like it was like saying somelike, oh yeah, or something like
it was like I couldn't make outwhat it was saying, but it was
definitely like a Japanesevoice.
You think it's tied to it?
Do you think it's tied to thatparticular item you have?
(05:22):
Was that with you on that?
SPEAKER_05 (05:24):
It was with us the whole time, but the interesting
thing about that location is wewent to one of the oldest
sections of Japan.
Like it was the prefecture oh, asection between two prefectures
of ancient Japan, Kyoko, and Iforgot the what the other one
is.
SPEAKER_01 (05:39):
Another big thing is that it's next to two
cemeteries, too.
So we could have been talking toanyone that's in the cemetery.
SPEAKER_05 (05:47):
But there's also like burial mounds within those
mountains where it's like theythey call them head mounds.
It's where they would decapitatedifferent samurai and they
actually would have mounds withheads.
Oh my goodness.
They would just leave them,yeah.
They would just leave them theretoo.
That's crazy, man.
SPEAKER_00 (06:03):
See, a lot of I'd be nervous.
But now don't you guys getnervous bringing something home?
SPEAKER_05 (06:08):
I mean, like, we're so used to it now, I think it's
just another normal thing to us,to be honest.
SPEAKER_01 (06:15):
I already think I'm haunted, so it's okay.
I don't have friends, so thesethese they're my friends.
That's great.
SPEAKER_03 (06:27):
Well, how long how how long have you guys been you
know, how did you meet up?
How do you how long have youguys been doing this?
SPEAKER_01 (06:32):
Has it was it like a coincidence or did you just know
each other for a long time or soI've been investigating for off
and on for a few years, but thenI was like, hey, you know what?
This is New Year's, let's dothis for YouTube.
So we've been doing it moreadvertising, probably like
within the last eight months.
SPEAKER_05 (06:53):
Okay.
Yeah, trying to push out more.
I mean, like both of us onseparate paths in life, we've
been around paranormalexperiences.
So being together and seeing alot of things together, like we
I mean, we just go out and aboutand we were having paranormal
experiences, not with intentionof filming it.
SPEAKER_01 (07:11):
Yeah.
We have a lot of sharedexperiences that make us feel
like we're not schizophrenic oranything.
SPEAKER_05 (07:18):
So we we figure yeah, we figure why not?
Why not just start filming?
Why not just dive into it?
SPEAKER_01 (07:23):
Even though we've been doing it for only eight
months, we've been taking itvery serious.
We went to the unalive forest inJapan.
I don't know if you guys knowthat forest.
SPEAKER_06 (07:32):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (07:33):
Yeah, so we went there at nighttime from eleven
PM to four AM.
SPEAKER_05 (07:38):
Yeah, that was yeah, that's the crucifixion.
That was something waydifferent.
unknown (07:43):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (07:44):
N but now with are there other people that were
there too investigating, or likejust you, you know, or just you
guys.
SPEAKER_05 (07:49):
So we We met up on in Narita with another YouTuber
and two of his friends.
And we did the Ayoyama Cemeteryin Tokyo.
And then the following night wewent over to the forest
altogether before we split offto different adventures after
that.
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (08:08):
Yeah.
The forest was definitelyintense.
I didn't know that the forest,because of a the Mount Fuji
exploding at one point, thetrees roots they don't grow
downwards, they grow uhhorizontally.
SPEAKER_05 (08:22):
Yeah, they grow on the surface practically.
SPEAKER_01 (08:25):
With that being said, what you have to be
careful because you couldliterally walk into an
underground cave.
Really?
SPEAKER_05 (08:31):
Yeah, that's like right through them.
I guess like w like a long halftime ago, Al Fuji went off and
completely demolished a hugevillage that was there within
the forest.
And since then it's just beensuch a heaviness.
Not only because of the magneticfield, because of the volcanic
rock, but of the history andwhat we know about it with
(08:54):
people.
Right.
Yeah, we definitely experiencedsomething that I can't explain
without being present there.
It's a whole different thing.
SPEAKER_01 (09:06):
What did you guys think about the NLI forest movie
that came out in the 2000s?
SPEAKER_05 (09:12):
Oh, is that the oh what is that one called?
The Forest?
SPEAKER_01 (09:15):
The Forest, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (09:16):
I didn't see that one.
We didn't see that one.
Yeah, no.
SPEAKER_00 (09:19):
The forest really.
I was actually that.
I feel bad that we didn't evensee that.
Oh my god.
Yeah.
Well, because it was based itwas based on the forest you're
talking about, right?
In Japan.
SPEAKER_05 (09:28):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (09:29):
It's an American film though.
Okay.
SPEAKER_05 (09:31):
It's like a girl going in trying to find her
sister that went on.
SPEAKER_03 (09:34):
I think I saw that, yes.
That was pretty good.
That was pretty good.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (09:40):
Yeah.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (09:41):
Yeah, it was it was pretty intense.
SPEAKER_05 (09:43):
Not a lot of films based on that place, to be
honest.
SPEAKER_00 (09:47):
Well, I mean, think about it.
How many people really go, likenobody, I guess I'm gonna say
almost on Halloween time is whenpeople really go looking for,
you know, any haunted spots.
Google, pictures.
Right, yeah, and look to seewhat it is.
Like, even when it came toAnnabelle, nobody thought
anything about Annabelle.
You know what I mean?
And then when the movie cameout, people like, oh, it's for
real?
It's out there.
(10:07):
Oh, and then they started tofollow it, they started to look
free.
Right.
SPEAKER_05 (10:11):
And everyone starts collecting those raggedy and
dolls.
SPEAKER_02 (10:14):
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (10:15):
Yeah, for anchor and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_02 (10:16):
Right, because the original doll was actually a
raggedy and doll.
It was not the doll that's inthe movie.
Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (10:22):
Okay, yeah, yeah.
No, yeah.
They couldn't get the six rate,they they couldn't get the
license, I guess, for that.
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (10:28):
Well, yeah, it's not more people that are scared of
that.
SPEAKER_04 (10:30):
Yeah, but they they probably wouldn't want to give
the license.
They're trying not to assumescared that.
SPEAKER_00 (10:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (10:35):
So what if you heard that's what I heard?
SPEAKER_05 (10:36):
They're like, no, you can't have our doll.
That's that's what they'rekeeping from buying it.
SPEAKER_04 (10:41):
Right.
Yeah, that is great.
I have a question.
So now, Mina, you're so you'relike a medium clairvoyant.
Is that what you can like uh sodo you find like that like when
you're doing these, they kind ofnaturally just like some of
these like spirits or entitiesnaturally like gravitate towards
(11:02):
you because they know thatyou're like able to like
communicate or hear them or itseems like that's the case.
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (11:10):
Um solely because lately when we've been editing
our investigations, I getdisembodied voices like she's
here, or hey, hey you and thingslike that, or we'll even hear my
name in the disembodied voice.
SPEAKER_05 (11:24):
Yeah, the EVP.
Yeah, EVP is on the spirit box.
A lot of times we'll catch uhyou'll hear someone saying her
name.
Like two syllable words, so youcan't really pick those up, like
Nina.
Yeah, you know.
SPEAKER_01 (11:36):
Yeah, and uh there's also moments where we play the
Ouija board over at the UnaliveBridge, the Colorado Bridge here
in Pasadena, and you couldclearly hear the spirit box
syncing up to the Ouija boardsaying that it wants to take my
soul.
SPEAKER_07 (11:50):
Oh wow.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (11:52):
Now aren't you guys happened once?
Don't you guys get a littlenervous playing with the Ouija?
I mean, isn't it the old, youknow, the rule is you know, be
careful with the Ouija becauseyou never know what you're gonna
open up and let in, you know,kind of thing.
SPEAKER_06 (12:05):
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (12:10):
I'm not even me.
I'm not even mad at YOLO.
SPEAKER_07 (12:15):
Right.
You know, at least that's whatthey say, right?
SPEAKER_05 (12:17):
I mean, we we take our precautions with with it, of
course, and we take it serious,but we've definitely got some
really compelling stuff usingit.
So it's definitely been reallybeneficial, like especially in
Japan, when we were gettingresponses in Japanese at the
cemetery.
That was crazy because it wasspelling stuff that we're like,
we don't know Japanese.
(12:38):
Right.
Were you guys writing it down?
No, we had someone, we hadsomeone that was with us that
was Japanese.
Awesome.
So he would translate, he wouldspeak in Japanese, asking
questions, and it was him andMina on the board, and it would
respond in Japanese.
SPEAKER_01 (12:55):
Oh and he was so nervous at times he would just
look away from the Ouija boardbecause he was in disbelief that
it was speaking in Japanese.
SPEAKER_05 (13:02):
Yeah, when it was like selling something he knew
what it was gonna be, he waslike, Oh no, no, don't you
creeped him out.
SPEAKER_06 (13:09):
Yeah, bro.
SPEAKER_05 (13:10):
Yeah, no, he was not okay.
He was not okay.
SPEAKER_03 (13:14):
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I see.
We'll give you an extra hundred.
SPEAKER_00 (13:17):
Don't leave.
Oh my god, that is insane.
SPEAKER_05 (13:26):
Yeah, like like that experience actually made someone
that was a skeptic a believer.
Wow, he was a good one.
SPEAKER_01 (13:32):
Yeah, he I think another thing is that I like to
do is whistling and theappalacian.
Oh guys.
SPEAKER_06 (13:40):
Oh, okay.
What happened?
SPEAKER_01 (13:43):
Supposedly you're not supposed to do that.
It brings like horrible spiritsfoot, Wendigo, Windagoes, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (13:50):
Like So wait, whistling and what?
SPEAKER_01 (13:53):
The Appalachian Mountains.
SPEAKER_04 (13:55):
The Mountain Rangers by you guys.
Yep, yeah.
Really?
Uh because we uh you know,actually it's funny.
Driving here, I actually passeda crossing for Appalachian
Trail.
SPEAKER_06 (14:04):
Ooh.
Do you ever see anything?
SPEAKER_04 (14:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right on right in Vernon.
Yeah.
No, I mean it's just like acrosswalk because you know, it
crosses the street, theAppalachian Trail.
So like, but like I mean, I'vebeen on the Appalachian Trail
like many times in the daytime,especially yeah, in the daytime,
especially as a kid, because Iwas in Boy Scouts and like I
think the Appalachian Trail likepassed our Boy Scout camp, so
we'd like go on like a partiallike hike or whatever.
(14:27):
But but like, yeah, I never wentthere at night.
Like that would be crazy.
That would be a good thing.
SPEAKER_00 (14:32):
You know what is though too?
I think for us over here, sorry,Luke, I think that for us over
here, we're so used to seeingdeer and stuff in the chairs and
the side that we're not evenpaying attention anymore to
what's the movement, yeah.
Yeah, to whatever other movementwas just a deer that was over
there, you know?
Or maybe a little bit.
Yeah, but that would probably beway different.
SPEAKER_05 (14:49):
You know what?
And that's probably that'sprobably a good thing for you
guys too, because there's onetype of like entity that's out
in the mountains there that likeyou're not supposed to pay
attention to.
It's like the the shadow guythat kind of watches.
Oh.
SPEAKER_03 (15:02):
Yeah, that's like a what it's a native folklore too.
So what do you mean?
So like even if it tries tocommunicate with you, you gotta
ignore it and not pay attentionto it at all.
SPEAKER_05 (15:11):
Yeah, you just don't take notice of it.
We saw it there when we weredriving through Pennsylvania.
I think that's what we saw whenwe were up in the Appalachians
with uh Sia.
Yeah, you see?
SPEAKER_04 (15:21):
No.
I wonder if that's what theybecause my my son, he loves
Minecraft and Enderman is like ashadow character, and if you
look at him, he comes towardsyou.
So I wonder if that's what theybased on.
SPEAKER_05 (15:31):
Oh is he kind of like a cylinder, not really like
shoulders or anything?
Yeah, he's like tall.
Yeah, Slender Male, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (15:38):
Almost like Slender Man, but yeah, just like solid
black.
Yeah, Slender Man.
Yeah.
Maybe actually that is crazy.
SPEAKER_00 (15:47):
That's what I'm saying, dude.
I'm not gonna I I I'm good.
I'm good.
You know what it is to wellbecause I've I've had my own
experiences growing up.
Like, you know, we've talkedabout over here before.
So that then for me, I'm nottrying to instigate any kind of
real communication because I'mgood.
I'm good, you know, as long aswe're not fighting.
You've had experience withoutanything.
(16:08):
Yeah, yeah.
That's the thing.
I've had the experience withouthaving to inspect.
You know, I'm saying instigateas far as like asking questions
or to move anything.
I'm not saying like, you know,argue with a, you know, or or
you know, get get crazy, youknow, like speak now.
Like, I'm not talking aboutthat.
I'm just saying, like, you know,I haven't had any, I haven't
tried to have any kind ofconversation or communication
with so that then for me, youknow, I'm just like, okay, I'm
(16:29):
gonna go this way, you know, I'mjust new to know I'm like gonna
you guys would absolutely youwould love the Chinese
investigators.
SPEAKER_05 (16:35):
Like over there, the culture is like if you see a
ghost, you're supposed to curseat it and try to fight it.
SPEAKER_00 (16:40):
What really?
What for?
SPEAKER_04 (16:44):
Right.
See, no, I don't know.
Like it's like I guess theybelieve that like it can't they
like you can overpower like youknow, you like you face your
fear kind of thing and stand upto it.
SPEAKER_03 (16:53):
Yeah.
I gotcha.
Yeah.
Well, you know, it's cu it'snice when you see different
cultures and how they respondand how they deal with these
things.
You know, that's not how wealways do it.
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00 (17:07):
So now here's the funny.
It's funny that you say thatbecause when I was living in
Florida, I used to work theovernight.
I get home and my girlfriend wasin the house, the girl I was
dating at the time.
And laying in the bed, I'mtrying to go to sleep.
And I felt something tickling myfeet.
I thought it was her.
I'm like, do me a favor, please.
I know I'm just tired.
I want to go to sleep.
(17:27):
She's like, Yeah.
She says, Stop.
I'm like, what?
And I look over and she wassitting at the head of the bed,
right by my like right by mypillow, sitting curled up, you
know, her holding her legs andshe's staring at the foot of the
bed.
I'm like, what's the matter?
She goes, I'm not the onetickling your feet.
I'm like, what?
Oh no, that is not right.
(17:47):
God's honest truth, man, nolies.
I'm sitting here, I'm tellingyou the truth.
I look down to the and I seethis dark shadow.
It was it wasn't like a itwasn't like a super like a thick
smog or anything like darkshadow like that.
It was a light shadow.
So for a hot second, I thoughtit was just a reflection of
something coming in from outsidebecause it was still morning
(18:08):
time.
And like I said, I was I hadjust gotten home from the
overnight shift.
And I was like, and I looked andI was like, uh, if you don't go
away and stop tickling my feet,I promise you, when I die, I'm
gonna find you, I'm gonna beatyour ass.
It did.
And I and it kind of like justlike it stopped, like it
stopped, it almost like stoodup, and she looked at it, and
(18:29):
she kind of my girlfriend kindof like sat back a little bit
more, but looked up toward theceiling, and then it just kind
of like just kind of like fellback and disappeared into the
closet.
I was like, all right, cool,it's gone.
So yeah, and then she laid down.
So, but still, it was because Iwas super tired that I was brave
enough to do that shit.
I'm not spirit.
SPEAKER_05 (18:50):
Spirit was like, damn, okay, it's cool.
SPEAKER_00 (18:53):
Sorry.
It's creepy.
I sleepy out.
It's like I'm not messing withthese Brooklyn guys.
SPEAKER_03 (18:58):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (18:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (18:59):
Listen, if you don't get it, we're gonna give you a
bait.
SPEAKER_05 (19:02):
You understand me?
That's why I can't hang my feetoff the side of the bed.
SPEAKER_04 (19:06):
Really?
Yeah, same thing.
I don't like hanging my feet offthe bed either.
SPEAKER_05 (19:10):
Something's gonna grab you.
SPEAKER_00 (19:12):
I'm with my feet off the bed all day going and off
the bed.
I'm at I'm done.
Well, what about when we weretalking about?
SPEAKER_05 (19:20):
I've seen too many horror films.
SPEAKER_03 (19:22):
Right, yeah, too many, for sure.
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (19:24):
But even when I was a kid and like, you know, I was
I I would I would I think thethe the dog the dogs from
Ghostbusters were gonna eat myfeet.
Oh, the hellhounds.
Yeah, the hellhounds.
I thought a hellhound was gonnaOh my God.
Ghostbusters.
SPEAKER_05 (19:38):
I think there was there was a story about like I
think it was a home invasionkind of story where w a woman
thought it was her dog like inher hand while she was hanging
off the bed.
I didn't like an Urban Legend.
Yes, yes, Urban Legends.
There was like some guyunderneath the bed.
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (19:53):
Oh my god.
See?
Yeah, but again, I believe so,you know, for me and my
upbringing, you know, I have abig super spirit that's my like
guardian angel.
So I trust in my guardian angelmaking sure that nothing's gonna
happen to me.
You know what I'm saying?
So for me, I have no problem, Ihave no problem with my hand
over the side of the bed or myfoot, you know.
(20:15):
I walk into places like at my myjob, you know, I have keys to
get in.
So the place is pitch black, andI'm just walking in there
without the lights on and stuff,and people are looking at me
like, oh, you just gonna dothat?
I'm like, there's nothing, what?
Let's go.
Come on.
You know, now we hear things,I'm telling you, the building I
work in is haunted.
We I we smell cigarettes becausethere was a gentleman that used
(20:38):
to work there.
I remember you mentioned that onthe episode, yeah.
And we he used to smell he was aheavy smoker, and every once in
a while, either around hisbirthday or the time that he
passed, we would smell thecigarettes for a few days.
You know, meanwhile, nobodythere is smoking.
SPEAKER_03 (20:52):
Well, remember what happened when when Irene passed,
my cousin recently passed.
Oh, that's right.
I came home to the house,cigarettes, and she smoked
cigarettes and it stunk likecigarettes in the house.
Now I'm an ex-moker and I knowwhat cigarettes smell like.
And I I looked at my wife, I'mlike, you smell that, right?
She's like, Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (21:08):
Isn't that very interesting how smell can like
like linger or just like kind ofshow up out of nowhere?
Like a very I don't know.
I I don't know how to explainthat.
It's like scientifically, too.
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00 (21:20):
Yeah.
Well, what about perfumes orcolognes?
Right.
I have those too.
I've smelled my grandmother'sperfume, and she passed when I
was like freaking 14 years old,a little bit younger.
SPEAKER_03 (21:30):
If I smell mothballs, which you don't smell
a lot, my grandmother always hadthem in her closet.
Jesus, I hated them chicks.
Uh yeah, I know, but it's asmell that I recognize and I
knew what it was always from.
So you know what's the firstthing that pops in your head?
Yeah, that person.
Yeah.
Boom.
That is everybody And of courseI found my grandmother when she
passed away.
(21:51):
Oh.
Oh.
So that's what it is.
So I when she my mom asked me,it was Father's Day.
We were supposed to have dinnerfor Father's Day.
She said, Go upstairs and see ifyour grandmother's up there.
But before she had that, she hadme run it to each store all over
the block to figure out whereshe might be.
So I wound up going up and mymother said, by the time you got
out the door, I knew you werealready upstairs, because I was
(22:11):
what, 13, 14?
Right.
I flew up those stairs.
Yep.
And I found my grandmother.
She looked like she had hadheart atta had a heart attack,
tried to get up, but didn't makeit.
So yeah.
So whenever I smell the mobbles,which you don't really see a lot
or smell, right?
Nobody really uses that.
But when you get it, you'relike, oh, grandma.
SPEAKER_00 (22:29):
You know exactly what that is.
Exactly.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Now, with you guys, how what wasthe first experience for you
that made you say, you knowwhat, this is what I want to do.
I want to, you know, just well,this is this is just what I want
to do.
SPEAKER_01 (22:44):
I think for me, it's uh a cluster of a lot of shared
experiences throughout my life.
I used to have them with my mom,and when I say shared
experience, I would keep thisinformation from myself.
Like one night I saw this bigold black mask like appear in
front of me and had a weirdlight inside its chest.
And I thought maybe 'cause I wasa you know a kid, I was
(23:06):
imagining it and it justdissipated.
But that morning my mother wascrying to my grandmother, saying
she saw a shadow person with alight in its chest staring at
her at night.
So like things like that.
And also I I have this weirdthing where I freak out
technology.
SPEAKER_05 (23:25):
Yeah, she's one of those type of like cleverly
people.
SPEAKER_01 (23:29):
Like I I literally went to fitness or 24 hour
fitness and he was like, Oh,sign up right here, and it was a
computer monitor, and I waslike, Oh, I'm gonna break this.
And he's like, It's just yourname and email.
And when I did that and Ientered it, the whole screen
went black.
And like it wouldn't start upagain.
SPEAKER_05 (23:49):
Whoa.
Or technology does not like her.
I can I could I could definitelyverify that.
SPEAKER_01 (23:56):
Or when like I uh was leaving back home from
Japan, for some reason they havethese electronic baggage claims
where you put your checked inbaggage and it was working for
everyone, and when I go there itsaid error, and then I the
Japanese man was like, Oh, letme help you, I'll move you to
this next one, and it said erroragain, and it had to do it
(24:18):
manually.
So things like that.
SPEAKER_04 (24:22):
Well, if you think about it, right?
Those like like when you'redoing the investigations, right?
Those EMF frequencies, right?
Don't like like it's gotta betied into something like along
with lines, you know what Imean?
So like the EMF is probablymessing up the computer, like
it's uh there's something withlike the spirit world and like
(24:46):
musical frequencies.
So like if you're if if you're amedium, I I could I I could
totally see how that would youknow mess up electronics and
stuff like that, if that's youknow what I mean?
SPEAKER_05 (24:58):
You like create your own magnetic field around you as
like a survey person.
So like that's I feel likethat's why a lot of spirits are
attracted to her because she haslike such a huge like amount
probably coming out of her likethessal.
Yeah, just out of her aura andit's natural for you.
Right.
So it freaks out tech and allthat kind of stuff.
(25:18):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (25:19):
We talk to other mediums that have the same issue
too, and they say that they feellike a walking battery pack for
people.
That makes sense.
That makes sense.
SPEAKER_03 (25:29):
But because don't they say that when they do some
investigations that a lot of thetimes the entities will use the
power from either the cameras orsomething?
Don't they like lose batterypower right away?
Like this I just charge thisthing and it's gone.
SPEAKER_05 (25:43):
Right.
Right.
You know, kind of it's it'shappened to us.
It's completely happened to us.
But then there's a thing we callwe all call this a paranormal
hangover.
It's literally like the nextday, dude.
You guys you feel so drained,like just physically and like
mentally drained after aninvestigation, because they're
just pulling your energy outreally.
SPEAKER_04 (26:02):
Oh yeah, I can imagine.
You know, it's interesting too,is I know you guys talked about
it recently on the podcast, butyou guys were talking about some
uh UFO stuff and someextraterrestrial stuff, right?
Oh yeah.
So it's funny because if youlook up more recent stuff about
that is they kind of tie intogether if you think about it.
Like because you have like thepsionics who are like same
(26:25):
thing.
Like they're like kind of likeclairvoyant or you know, maybe
able to attract telekinetically,you know, or whatever.
So I it's probably I would Ithink it's gotta be on the same
lines.
SPEAKER_05 (26:37):
No, we definitely believe that one thing we
noticed with research that a lotof rocket scientists were also a
part of the occult.
There's a lot of like a cultoccultists that were rocket
scientists back, especiallyduring like the whole like
fifties and sixties, like whenthat was a fun fact.
SPEAKER_01 (26:58):
You guys know the movie The Exorcist, everyone
knows that movie.
Right.
And that's actually based onLittle Boy, the actual little
boy.
But what people don't know isthat after that whole endeavor
of being possessed, quoteunquote, he started diving deep
in fascination of space, andthen he even joined NASA right
after.
SPEAKER_02 (27:19):
Wow, no idea.
SPEAKER_01 (27:20):
So what was possessing him?
Like maybe an alien waspossessing him.
SPEAKER_05 (27:23):
Yeah, that's so we think that maybe like spirits we
have like a lot of differentlike theories, like okay, maybe
they are extraterrestrial, maybethey're interdimensional being
right, yeah.
Like we don't know exactly whatwho we're talking to.
Like, I mean we did aninvestigation at Skinwalker
Ranch and Oh, it was it wascool.
(27:43):
We had that we definitely hadexperience, but like our
equipment was like setting offlike the MF protector was coming
off in frequencies.
Wow.
Which is really weird.
And then we've got EVPs, but wedon't know if we're speaking to
an like a dark spirit orpossibly something else.
We don't know.
SPEAKER_00 (28:02):
That's insane.
I think it's just for me, I I Ilike I said I get a kick out of
watching it because it's onlybecause for me it's uh just
knowing that it's like you know,I guess it's like that other
dimension, or or you know, justthe afterlife, or like you guys
just said, you know, it could besomething from uh just a
(28:23):
different dimension.
We don't know who's from comingfrom where.
They say Bigfoot.
So I watched that uh FindingBigfoot, I think the name of the
show.
And they I mean, you know, younever know how much of it is
real, I guess, but it lookedlike there was a shadow walking
on the other side of the uh theuh river that they were on, uh
and then all of a sudden it justuh disappeared.
And it was in front of the treesand it was so it was in front of
(28:49):
the trees between where we werelike the people were the cameras
were set up and looking, andthen it just literally just
disappeared.
It looked like they walked intolike a portal or something.
Yeah, a portal or something.
Like you couldn't see and justdisappeared.
SPEAKER_01 (29:01):
I'm like you know, like a lot of people a lot of
people believe that Bigfoot isan interdimensional being.
That he like goes into likeportals.
SPEAKER_05 (29:12):
Yeah, that even goes back to like local native lore
too.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (29:15):
Harry May.
SPEAKER_05 (29:16):
Yeah, like uh we have a friend we talk to quite
often.
He's a him and his family areinvestigators over in New York
by Buffalo.
And we met up with them beforewe went to the hemp sale.
And I don't know if you guysknow that place or not, but it
has a lot of crazy stories toit.
Really?
But he would tell us about sixfoot siding scenario and how he
(29:37):
really believes that they areinterdimensional and the whole
native lore to it is related tothat.
Yeah, I don't know, right.
Right.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (29:45):
Same thing with Abominable Snowman, which I
think right they might be.
Or Windigo, they might all bekind of rel no, which is a Yeti
man that's over here.
Yeah, is Windigo and BombableSnowman the same thing?
Yeti usually or Yeti.
Yeti, that's the right Yeti.
SPEAKER_05 (30:00):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:00):
Have you guys heard of the human being?
SPEAKER_05 (30:03):
Oh yeah, that's a recent thing we just found.
Really?
SPEAKER_01 (30:05):
Yeah, we didn't know that that existed.
SPEAKER_00 (30:07):
See, I heard about the sort of thing.
SPEAKER_01 (30:08):
I mean it might be like a Soviet thing.
SPEAKER_00 (30:10):
Oh really?
Yeah.
I heard about it on a show theother day not too long.
Yeah.
I just heard about that one too.
SPEAKER_06 (30:17):
Freaky looking.
SPEAKER_00 (30:18):
Yeah.
But that's the thing.
So now they also say too, a lotof the stuff, uh, a lot of
things that people see aremanifestations of the of asking
for it.
You know, like Slender Man, youknow, you're putting that out
there and that's the one.
Yeah, you're projecting that andthat's what you're getting back.
Could this be the power of themind at that point?
Well, because I'm saying now,what if it's that it's the
spirit, you know, that you likeyou know, you guys go out and
(30:41):
you'll investigate, but thenbecause of what we're putting
out, uh that little bit of fearor you know, letting our
imagination just run get thebetter of us, that that's what
the image is.
That that's what whatever spiritis really showing us.
SPEAKER_01 (30:55):
No, maybe manifesting our own entities.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (30:59):
You're welcoming unf unnamed and unfaced uh entities
to places that are.
SPEAKER_03 (31:04):
Right.
Yeah.
You could be doing like we spokelast time, you could be doing it
without even knowing it either.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yep.
You know, that's what you got tobe careful of.
What you say sometimes.
SPEAKER_00 (31:16):
Well, yeah, you know, be careful what you wish.
You can only run so fast.
SPEAKER_03 (31:19):
I'm just saying.
SPEAKER_00 (31:21):
For sure.
So now when's the next time youguys think you're gonna be out
on this side of the country, outon the east coast?
SPEAKER_05 (31:27):
You come here often?
Oh we haven't been there often.
We did take a trip toPennsylvania where we drove
around, went to New Jersey, NewYork City, we went to Suki
Hollow.
Yes.
Uh also one night we checked outoh gosh, it's like an abandoned
village up there.
It's kind of a little past SukiHollow.
Oh.
SPEAKER_01 (31:46):
But we haven't gone there often.
We do want to go back to thestreet.
SPEAKER_05 (31:49):
Yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_01 (31:50):
It depends on finances.
Right.
You guys are all the way on theother side.
SPEAKER_05 (31:54):
Yeah, and it's actually cheap it's cheaper to
fly to Japan than it is to overthere.
Really?
Welcome to New York.
SPEAKER_00 (32:02):
Come on, that is funny.
That is funny.
Yeah, well, because I mean, youknow, there are so many places
here that there's a lot of youknow, and and so many abandoned
like psychiatric hospitals.
Oh, yeah.
Um, like you guys said.
SPEAKER_05 (32:20):
Yeah, you guys have a lot over there.
Yes.
We're jealous.
We're jealous.
Over here in LA, if if it'sabandoned, it's like full of
people that want to stab you.
SPEAKER_07 (32:29):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (32:30):
Yeah, see, hours are so scary, people don't want to
go in there.
Yeah, you know.
Like, where was I wasLynchworth?
Part of the Yeah, that's it.
That's the Lynchworth village.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
So I've been there.
I've driven past it.
I've actually driven through it.
And yeah, bro, listen, you feelthe people, you feel things
somebody is people are lookingat you as you're driving
(32:51):
through.
Oh, yeah.
Really?
No lie.
Yeah, I did it.
Matter of fact, I did it thispast summer.
I was driving past.
SPEAKER_05 (32:56):
Yeah, it's like it's like a hundred or so abandoned
buildings and the wholeproximity.
SPEAKER_00 (33:00):
Yeah, it is bananas.
SPEAKER_05 (33:03):
How old are they?
SPEAKER_00 (33:04):
Well, so well that was like in the 70s because late
1800s?
Yeah.
So late 1800s to the 70s and allthe same.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because the 70s is around thetime that they closed it,
because that's where GeraldoRivera went and reported that it
was uh all uh they were treatingeverybody badly and whatnot.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (33:20):
Yeah, they did a lot of bad stuff there to people.
SPEAKER_00 (33:23):
Yep.
Then you have what's the otherone?
Mohawk Mountain.
SPEAKER_04 (33:27):
Oh, Mohawk Mountain, yeah.
That's in uh uh what what whatwhat what uh what city is that
in?
It's around the Mohawk is yeah,it's not too far from here.
SPEAKER_00 (33:35):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, just before Kingston.
But even though they were there,but now people are the are are
actually live there.
Um not live there, but theyvisit.
Are you guys familiar with theTV show Upload?
Upload?
No.
Well, because Upload is wherethey film like that's the hotel
that you see outside.
Mohawk Mountainhouse.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (33:53):
Mohawk.
Okay, I'll check that out.
Yeah, it's a good idea.
SPEAKER_01 (33:56):
I have a question for you guys.
Uh-huh.
My question is, did you see ourlatest post on Instagram?
The red eye entity that wecaptured?
What do you think that might be?
SPEAKER_00 (34:06):
So we're trying to figure out that out.
So for me, I think it was uhsomebody watching you.
SPEAKER_05 (34:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (34:14):
Yes, I think it was somebody watching you because uh
it w it looks like it's lookingstraight at you.
SPEAKER_05 (34:20):
Like it's like it looks like a head kind of angled
out, like someone kind oflingering around the corner.
SPEAKER_01 (34:24):
Yeah, when you brighten up the photo, it you
can see an outline of someone.
SPEAKER_00 (34:27):
Yeah, see, I'm thinking it looks like somebody
like a almost like a werewolfkind of look, I guess, would say
something like that.
It looked like it has some extraears, or longer ears, I'm saying
extra ears.
Some long ears.
SPEAKER_05 (34:37):
Very humanoid looking.
And it's about I would say aboutfive feet tall or so.
Whatever that is.
Wow.
SPEAKER_00 (34:43):
Yeah, that's that's insane.
But I saw that thing, I waslike, man, please tell me that
that was something that theyjust ended up coming across.
Like, I don't I don't evenunderstand it.
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_05 (34:51):
You know what?
We're happy we did not notice ituntil we got home and went over
footage.
SPEAKER_01 (34:56):
Yeah, weeks later.
SPEAKER_00 (34:58):
Yeah, 'cause that that's literally gonna haunt it.
You know what I mean?
Like that's gonna come back andyou're like, what the hell is
that?
Like, where was it?
SPEAKER_01 (35:04):
What's uh what's creepy is that the EVPs we got
in that room, uh, they were kindof sounding like children.
SPEAKER_05 (35:11):
Yeah.
That was creepy.
SPEAKER_01 (35:13):
Yeah, it felt like children whispering and
chuckling.
Yeah, they even said during theinvestigation, I was like, I
hear children, but I don't thinkthese are kids.
I was like, nope.
SPEAKER_05 (35:22):
Yeah, it felt very uh interesting there.
We're like, we tried to leaveonce and we heard like one of
the prayer benches, like the pewbenches, someone sat in one of
them.
You can hear that noise and sherecognized it because we went to
Catholic school.
SPEAKER_01 (35:35):
I know that that one's a good thing.
SPEAKER_05 (35:36):
Wow, yeah, Catholic school.
We were about to like walk outand just check out the
environment and stuff, but wewent back in and that's when we
started catching a lot of theaudios, and when we left again,
that's when we caught that.
SPEAKER_01 (35:49):
The red eye staring back at us.
SPEAKER_05 (35:51):
Right.
That's so creepy.
SPEAKER_04 (35:53):
Yeah, that is creepy though.
I think Yeah, we want to goback.
When I see the eyes staring atyou, you know, right away I
think of uh penny wise, youknow.
Anyway, those are those areyellow eyes though, but still.
Yeah, I see the eyes glowing.
SPEAKER_03 (36:06):
Because any guy's glowing is scary.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (36:10):
Speaking of that, what is your guys' favorite
Stephen King film?
What what actually which onescared you the most as a kid?
SPEAKER_00 (36:17):
Pet Cemetery.
Pet Cemetery, I don't know howto say the same thing.
Pet Cemetery?
Yeah, the shining.
Louis the Shining.
SPEAKER_04 (36:22):
Shining.
Shining?
SPEAKER_03 (36:24):
The Shining.
SPEAKER_04 (36:25):
Shining scared me, but Pets something about Pet
Cemetery just creeps.
SPEAKER_03 (36:29):
That was just that was just with the kid and
everything.
Yeah, that's what it was.
SPEAKER_00 (36:33):
Hello?
Oh, yeah.
You put you're burying your dogand the f and and yeah, listen,
and it comes back to life.
Well, your pet, that's that'sscary as dog, get out.
SPEAKER_03 (36:41):
Remember, that doesn't come back the same.
SPEAKER_04 (36:43):
Yeah, they come back all because the they said the
ground got sour.
They used that's the old man whoused the ground got sour.
Yeah, bro.
SPEAKER_00 (36:50):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Later for that, it was scary.
Dagnabit, that is misname.
Which but about yours?
SPEAKER_03 (36:57):
I got a bunch of evil Dead is another one for me.
SPEAKER_01 (37:00):
Evil Dead is another When they come to Stephen King
for me, it's the cat's eye,because I don't like that little
troll thing coming out of thewall.
SPEAKER_04 (37:07):
I forgot about it Oh, I love that.
I I love that because it's allit's an anthology.
But you know which one I haven'twatched?
Yeah, The Monkey.
unknown (37:15):
Really?
SPEAKER_01 (37:16):
Oh, you would like that.
I want to see that.
I want to see that.
If you like gore, like that'syeah, it's a kind of final for
you.
SPEAKER_03 (37:28):
Oh, yeah, it's like that's so bad.
So bad.
SPEAKER_05 (37:33):
But like me, uh, it's not scary, but my favorite
King book and movie was Misery.
SPEAKER_03 (37:38):
Misery.
Wow, this is gonna hurt you moremean than it hurts you.
She hobbles them.
Oh man.
SPEAKER_04 (37:47):
You know what I will say about Cat's eye though?
I love the what is it, SmokersIncorporated or whatever?
SPEAKER_06 (37:54):
Oh, which is a little gal.
SPEAKER_04 (37:56):
Right.
Right.
Yeah, where like like they theyput the the the they like that
first they they threaten himlike with the cat, and the next
time it'll be your wife, andsure enough she was there.
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01 (38:08):
Like it was Yeah, that was a good one.
SPEAKER_00 (38:11):
That is great, man.
SPEAKER_03 (38:13):
Yeah, Stephen King has a very uh very uh good
imagination for sure.
SPEAKER_05 (38:19):
I know.
Psychological.
We've been watching the dairyshow too.
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (38:23):
Oh yeah, we love that.
I I I love watching that.
That's you know, like I wastalking about on the podcast a
couple uh a couple podcasts agoabout like the they show like
the birthing of the stoning ofBenny Wise, at least in that
year, because I know it's every27 years, so like that time when
showing coming out, so it waskind of cool.
Such weird stuff.
SPEAKER_06 (38:48):
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (38:50):
So they speculate that like he's he usually killed
kids or like unalives kidspretty brutally, but except for
the kids that you knowinevitably unalive him is uh
there it's because they have theshining or the shining,
basically.
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_07 (39:06):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (39:07):
So that's the whole okay.
No, I'm just trying to I Ididn't know that.
SPEAKER_00 (39:11):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (39:13):
Like, that's why, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (39:17):
Yeah.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, telling you, listen, itit's crazy because it it I think
what messes you up is that thenyou sit back and you try not to
have that thought or thosethoughts because of what's
happening in the uh in the show.
So this way it doesn't happen toyou.
If that makes any sense.
SPEAKER_01 (39:34):
You know what I mean?
Like Candyman.
SPEAKER_00 (39:36):
Right.
Like I'm not saying Candymanthree times in the mirror
because as a kid, I was like,where's the line drawn?
SPEAKER_01 (39:45):
Like, I was so scared to even look at my
reflection on the toaster.
I was like, is this does thatcount?
Yes, it counts.
SPEAKER_04 (39:51):
It counts.
Wow.
Or what about just looking intolike a pond?
SPEAKER_00 (39:57):
You know, no flexion.
The reflection there.
Yeah.
The reflection counts.
It doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_05 (40:03):
Yes.
Wait, what's what's Japanesehorror movie where she comes out
of water?
Is it like tomorrow?
Is it is that is that the ring?
Is that the ring?
Yeah, yeah.
Is the ring because she comesout of water too?
Or am I thinking like darkwater?
SPEAKER_00 (40:15):
She was in the wet dark water.
She was in the well, so she'salways wet, you know?
Right.
So yeah, it would like thiswould be the same thing.
But yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (40:22):
Okay.
SPEAKER_06 (40:22):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (40:23):
Did you guys know that like coming back from
Japan?
We actually, well, Mina had somethe ring or grudge type moments
of a spirit that we brought backwith us.
SPEAKER_07 (40:32):
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (40:37):
Yeah.
You might as well name it.
Excuse me, do you have anythingto claim?
SPEAKER_00 (40:42):
Yeah, for real.
Yeah.
Yeah, right?
Did you yeah, right?
Did you have to claim when yougot through customs?
SPEAKER_05 (40:47):
Just a Japanese curse.
SPEAKER_01 (40:48):
I love that Nick was like, hey, do me a favor, don't
be bringing any grudge-likespirits back home.
And I'm like, I can't controlthat.
I kept just like, hey, you guysstay here.
That's all the one I broughthome.
Oh yeah.
So it was like daytime, and Iwas putting my collectibles,
because I'm a nerd, away on mybookcase.
(41:10):
And the bookcase is right upagainst the wall.
And so I felt like something wasstaring at me when I was taking
one of my collectibles off theground.
And when I looked up, I sawblack hair seeping back behind
the bookcase.
Oh he came home and I was like,so So what happened?
SPEAKER_05 (41:35):
Yeah, what happened was And we've been hearing uh
noises up in her attic spaceabove her bed, too.
SPEAKER_04 (41:43):
Isn't that what some that's like right from the
grudge, isn't that when they'rein the attic?
I know.
Isn't that the one that goes?
SPEAKER_00 (41:49):
Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_04 (41:51):
Oh isn't that the one that goes ah?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But why does everybody go in?
SPEAKER_05 (41:56):
It's time to run out of the house.
SPEAKER_06 (41:58):
Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_05 (42:00):
I'm I'm not even kidding you guys, too.
It's like spirits in Japan areprecisely how they portray them
in their horror films.
Like how they look, and like Idon't know, it's just they they
know what they're doing.
unknown (42:12):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (42:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (42:15):
See?
Because people saw them.
Yeah, but like I said, thepeople saw them.
Before they wrote the story,they saw these.
Oh, they did it.
They got it from somewhere.
Yeah.
Have you guys seen thoseJapanese kernel investigator
videos?
I have, yes.
I've seen like just random ones,yes.
SPEAKER_05 (42:33):
Like, have you seen the ones where they actually
show like where they capturelike a woman's face looking at
them?
They look exactly like thegrudge.
Oh, that's green, bro.
SPEAKER_00 (42:43):
That's I see like now that's why they made the
movie so well.
SPEAKER_04 (42:46):
Because they were like, oh, this is what the
ghosts look like.
But see?
SPEAKER_00 (42:49):
So for me, I was always thinking.
But see, I was sat, I was tryingto stay on that whole mental
thing, like, you know what?
That's just what they did forthe TV to make it, you know,
just look like that.
And now you just turn around andmade a state that yo, it's real,
bro.
It's real.
SPEAKER_03 (43:02):
So I know I'm not you know, when I was a kid, we
talked about this on the podcastreal quick, of feeling stuff.
And remember, we talked about Ilived in Brooklyn.
My fo we had an apartmentbuilding.
My father was a superintendent,and I would work on my bike down
in the basement.
So we talked about this, and Iwould always go once in a while,
I would get this feeling likesomething was watching me.
(43:23):
You know, and I would run out ofthe shop and I always told Kenny
and Tom, I would run out intothe sunlight because for me that
was like my safe space.
So I would go out there and Iwould go, but I definitely was
feeling something, you know, youjust feel it, and I'm like, all
right, I'm out.
SPEAKER_00 (43:37):
Yeah.
See you later.
Running out of here.
I'm gone.
Need us for that, mess.
That is too good, man.
Well, I appreciate you guysbeing on with us, man.
Thank you so, so, so what whatwait before you go?
Louis got one more second.
SPEAKER_03 (43:51):
Yeah, but what what what else can we expect from you
guys?
What's uh what's in the future?
Anything that we should belooking forward to, or you guys
got anything planned?
SPEAKER_01 (44:00):
So it I believe in December we are gonna launch the
video of us investigating theunalive forest in Japan.
And then uh starting next year,we're gonna go to Mexico City to
do Island of the Dolls thatnight.
SPEAKER_05 (44:14):
Nice.
That's very sad and tried toback in La Lorona.
SPEAKER_00 (44:20):
Oh, yes.
Oh you guys are bugging it.
So yeah, Yorona, you guys arecrazy.
I'm glad I asked.
Yeah, did Yorona that's the onethat she's gonna be there.
You're gonna see her.
SPEAKER_05 (44:30):
Oh man.
And yeah, that I'm lookingforward to.
We're gonna be having anotherparanormal team or two join us
on that investigation.
Yeah.
And possibly it's fantomi.
SPEAKER_01 (44:43):
From yeah, Lindsay from It's Fantomi.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (44:46):
By the way, if you guys come up this way or some
other time in the future, uh uhFull Moon Paranormal is another
parama paranormal group that'sup here.
So if you ever want to pair upwith someone else up here, we've
actually had them on our podcastas well.
And I actually went to thehouse.
SPEAKER_05 (45:03):
We probably followed them already.
You probably do.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (45:06):
So, but they are up here, they're local, and they've
done a lot of different things,a lot of different places.
Probably a lot of places youalready know about, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_05 (45:14):
Would you guys like to join on paranormal
investigation too?
SPEAKER_03 (45:17):
Sure, why not?
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_05 (45:18):
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (45:18):
Yeah, I'll watch.
Yeah, yeah, I'll sit in the van.
I'll be the chauffeur.
I got you.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (45:27):
No, I'm gonna say, it'd be like uh, what's his name
in the van?
What was the guy in uh Punisher?
His his his sidekick that was inthe van all the time.
SPEAKER_05 (45:35):
Oh, with the with the cameras going and stuff.
SPEAKER_04 (45:38):
He had like a name like Power Up or something.
I'd be down for it.
Yeah, Tom Bro Chip or something.
SPEAKER_05 (45:44):
You'll be uh you'll be home based.
SPEAKER_00 (45:45):
Yeah, yeah.
Todd will be.
I got snacks, I have to do that.
SPEAKER_03 (45:48):
Then you will do that, and Tom and I will join
you.
Definitely for sure.
SPEAKER_00 (45:52):
Oh yeah.
I'll put salt around the vanthis way.
SPEAKER_03 (45:54):
We're all safe with the I'll make sure I bathe in uh
holy water before I come.
SPEAKER_00 (45:58):
I got the spray water of the holy spray.
Yeah, some stage and stuff.
Don't worry, I got you guys onthe way back in.
Yeah, no problem.
That is funny as hell, man.
But yes, fixing some stage.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, right.
Absolutely.
I'm gonna start practicingtomorrow.
I'm gonna start looking atstage.
SPEAKER_05 (46:15):
Yeah, it's on order.
Yeah, thank you guys.
Yeah, we're more than happy tocome on the show whenever.
Yeah, good.
Absolutely.
Yeah, that'd be great.
SPEAKER_04 (46:24):
And if you happen to be in the area, uh when you you
can come on for a live recordingtoo, you know?
Yeah, come down over here.
SPEAKER_00 (46:30):
You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, man.
Hang out with us, you know.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, this is fun.
I appreciate it.
SPEAKER_05 (46:36):
We have to get some get some good food too.
SPEAKER_00 (46:38):
Oh, and by two.
We got to.
Yeah, so tell us what you want.
Absolutely.
Look forward to that.
This is like the eating corner.
Thank you for the good one.
Yes, you too.
You too.
Thank you, thank you.
Thank you.
Bye.
Bye bye.
Yes, so that was awesome.
So uh thank you everybody elsefor listening.
(47:00):
Thank you for watching.
See you on the next one.
Love peace and hair, grease.
Live long and prosperous spooky.
Welcome to C C and NJ Guy Podcast.
Your host, Tom Raman, LewisGrover, Kitty Copy.
So we got a special guest on tous tonight.
We have Nick and Mina fromCreepy Crawley Co.
So they are paranormalinvestigators.
(00:29):
So they are paranormalinvestigators.
They do paranormalinvestigations and they're big
horror fans like us.
So what's going on?
Yes, welcome.
Welcome.
Hey, thank you.
SPEAKER_06 (00:39):
Thank you.
SPEAKER_01 (00:40):
Thank you for having us.
SPEAKER_00 (00:42):
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you for saying yeah.
Yeah, Tom.
SPEAKER_05 (00:48):
That is true.
We are a huge horror fan.
Yeah, that's awesome.
That's awesome.
SPEAKER_03 (00:53):
So hey, did you guys not to interrupt, but did you
guys see the Ed Gaines story?
Did you guys watch that?
No, actually, I did not.
You guys should watch that.
Ed Gaines.
SPEAKER_01 (01:03):
Oh no, we should.
SPEAKER_03 (01:05):
You should watch it.
Is it like a doc documentary orlike a film?
It's based on it's based on a uha a gentleman who I don't know
if he was a gentleman, but who'spretty much a mass murderer.
Yeah, he back in the 40s.
SPEAKER_04 (01:16):
Yeah, so he's like a serial killer, like a mass
murderer that a lot of thehorror movies like they they
pulled from him, likeLeatherface.
SPEAKER_03 (01:24):
Right.
SPEAKER_05 (01:24):
Right.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (01:25):
Psycho, Chainsaw Massacre, and Silence of the
Lambs.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (01:30):
Actually, I got a chance to go to Zach Vegas
Museum in Vegas, and they had EdGing's pot where he used to boil
the bone.
SPEAKER_06 (01:37):
No way.
SPEAKER_01 (01:38):
Yeah, it's really cool.
They have a very thin line ofsalt around the pot, and it has
a glass casing, and sometimesthe pot moves outside the salted
line.
SPEAKER_00 (01:49):
Whoa.
Yeah.
No way.
SPEAKER_01 (01:51):
See?
SPEAKER_00 (01:52):
That would freak out.
Yeah, see, Zach has crazy stuffin there.
Yeah, for real.
Yeah, see, Zach has some crazystuff in there, man.
Zach is crazy.
He has that haunted museum.
Yeah, he does.
He's when he's the ghostmixture's guy.
SPEAKER_03 (02:02):
Do you guys have your own building up?
Are you doing your own museum?
No, no museum, but we do have acouple of haunted items.
SPEAKER_05 (02:09):
Ooh, what you got?
Well, there's one doll that youknow happened to find at a
thrift store.
You can tell the story aboutthat one.
SPEAKER_01 (02:16):
Oh, we were originally going to bring a doll
during an investigation andasked if one of the spirits
would like to haunt the doll.
It was our very firstinvestigation, so we were just
like, let's just have fun withit.
Lo and behold, when we went tothe thrift store, I gra I
gravitated towards this one dollfor some reason.
We purchased it and it was like,let's just test it out here at
(02:38):
our house to see if it is anempty doll.
And no joke, it was answeringquestions on the EMF, which is
like basically yeah.
I don't know if you guys knowwhat an EMF is.
It basically reads likeelectronic interference, like
magnetic fields.
SPEAKER_05 (02:52):
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01 (02:53):
But we would be like, Go to red if you're here
with us.
Like go to red.
SPEAKER_05 (02:57):
Yeah, we'll kind of pulsating towards like red for
questions.
SPEAKER_01 (03:01):
It was just on point with everything.
So I was like, Great, I gotalready haunted doll.
No.
SPEAKER_05 (03:08):
Yeah, it's it's shifted too.
Like it's actually kind of movedaround a little bit.
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (03:13):
For a friend of house sitting, yeah.
You see.
There was an open door aroundsomewhere that you can get out
of, right?
SPEAKER_00 (03:20):
Did you keep the seat?
SPEAKER_06 (03:26):
We named him Junior.
SPEAKER_00 (03:28):
Yeah, same as Junior.
Holy cow, that is awesome, man.
That is too much.
Yeah, Seattle lost it.
SPEAKER_05 (03:34):
That that and we actually brought haunted objects
back from Japan.
The one investigation that weposted yesterday was the first
part of that investigation.
So at the end, that that bellycall, the demon face.
SPEAKER_07 (03:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (03:47):
Right.
That officially became what wethink of haunted objects because
of that whole investigation.
SPEAKER_01 (03:53):
It was fully we started thinking it's haunted
because when I was there, Istarted vomiting TMI.
And then when we brought theobject to a convention, 'cause
we are vendors selling art, webrought it to just have people
look at it, and every woman thattouched it, they started saying
how their t chest was tighteningup and they couldn't breathe.
SPEAKER_05 (04:13):
Yeah, it's like kind of like a suffocation.
SPEAKER_01 (04:16):
Yeah, and there's like different time periods
where these women were talkingabout that.
SPEAKER_05 (04:21):
So we think it it doesn't like women too much.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (04:26):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (04:27):
So she's now did you guys end up doing any uh like a
history check on it?
Did you find out or like youknow where it came from, who it
may have belonged to, how old itis?
SPEAKER_05 (04:36):
Yeah.
Well, I checked it out.
It's probably made around likethe sixties or seventies itself.
Uh we picked it up at an antiqueshop in Thailand, at like a
Japanese antique shop there.
But what we did during theinvestigation, when you ring a
bell three times, you'rewelcoming a spirit there in
Japanese folklore.
SPEAKER_01 (04:54):
Yeah.
In other words, we think we gotthe object haunted by welcoming
something.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (05:00):
Oh god.
Now, in that video you guysposted yesterday, d you were
getting a very specific spirit.
Uh like it was like saying somelike, oh yeah, or something like
it was like I couldn't make outwhat it was saying, but it was
definitely like a Japanesevoice.
You think it's tied to it?
Do you think it's tied to thatparticular item you have?
(05:22):
Was that with you on that?
SPEAKER_05 (05:24):
It was with us the whole time, but the interesting
thing about that location is wewent to one of the oldest
sections of Japan.
Like it was the prefecture oh, asection between two prefectures
of ancient Japan, Kyoko, and Iforgot the what the other one
is.
SPEAKER_01 (05:39):
Another big thing is that it's next to two
cemeteries, too.
So we could have been talking toanyone that's in the cemetery.
SPEAKER_05 (05:47):
But there's also like burial mounds within those
mountains where it's like theythey call them head mounds.
It's where they would decapitatedifferent samurai and they
actually would have mounds withheads.
Oh my goodness.
They would just leave them,yeah.
They would just leave them theretoo.
That's crazy, man.
SPEAKER_00 (06:03):
See, a lot of I'd be nervous.
But now don't you guys getnervous bringing something home?
SPEAKER_05 (06:08):
I mean, like, we're so used to it now, I think it's
just another normal thing to us,to be honest.
SPEAKER_01 (06:15):
I already think I'm haunted, so it's okay.
I don't have friends, so thesethese they're my friends.
That's great.
SPEAKER_03 (06:27):
Well, how long how how long have you guys been you
know, how did you meet up?
How do you how long have youguys been doing this?
SPEAKER_01 (06:32):
Has it was it like a coincidence or did you just know
each other for a long time or soI've been investigating for off
and on for a few years, but thenI was like, hey, you know what?
This is New Year's, let's dothis for YouTube.
So we've been doing it moreadvertising, probably like
within the last eight months.
SPEAKER_05 (06:53):
Okay.
Yeah, trying to push out more.
I mean, like both of us onseparate paths in life, we've
been around paranormalexperiences.
So being together and seeing alot of things together, like we
I mean, we just go out and aboutand we were having paranormal
experiences, not with intentionof filming it.
SPEAKER_01 (07:11):
Yeah.
We have a lot of sharedexperiences that make us feel
like we're not schizophrenic oranything.
SPEAKER_05 (07:18):
So we we figure yeah, we figure why not?
Why not just start filming?
Why not just dive into it?
SPEAKER_01 (07:23):
Even though we've been doing it for only eight
months, we've been taking itvery serious.
We went to the unalive forest inJapan.
I don't know if you guys knowthat forest.
SPEAKER_06 (07:32):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (07:33):
Yeah, so we went there at nighttime from eleven
PM to four AM.
SPEAKER_05 (07:38):
Yeah, that was yeah, that's the crucifixion.
That was something waydifferent.
unknown (07:43):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (07:44):
N but now with are there other people that were
there too investigating, or likejust you, you know, or just you
guys.
SPEAKER_05 (07:49):
So we We met up on in Narita with another YouTuber
and two of his friends.
And we did the Ayoyama Cemeteryin Tokyo.
And then the following night wewent over to the forest
altogether before we split offto different adventures after
that.
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (08:08):
Yeah.
The forest was definitelyintense.
I didn't know that the forest,because of a the Mount Fuji
exploding at one point, thetrees roots they don't grow
downwards, they grow uhhorizontally.
SPEAKER_05 (08:22):
Yeah, they grow on the surface practically.
SPEAKER_01 (08:25):
With that being said, what you have to be
careful because you couldliterally walk into an
underground cave.
Really?
SPEAKER_05 (08:31):
Yeah, that's like right through them.
I guess like w like a long halftime ago, Al Fuji went off and
completely demolished a hugevillage that was there within
the forest.
And since then it's just beensuch a heaviness.
Not only because of the magneticfield, because of the volcanic
rock, but of the history andwhat we know about it with
(08:54):
people.
Right.
Yeah, we definitely experiencedsomething that I can't explain
without being present there.
It's a whole different thing.
SPEAKER_01 (09:06):
What did you guys think about the NLI forest movie
that came out in the 2000s?
SPEAKER_05 (09:12):
Oh, is that the oh what is that one called?
The Forest?
SPEAKER_01 (09:15):
The Forest, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (09:16):
I didn't see that one.
We didn't see that one.
Yeah, no.
SPEAKER_00 (09:19):
The forest really.
I was actually that.
I feel bad that we didn't evensee that.
Oh my god.
Yeah.
Well, because it was based itwas based on the forest you're
talking about, right?
In Japan.
SPEAKER_05 (09:28):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (09:29):
It's an American film though.
Okay.
SPEAKER_05 (09:31):
It's like a girl going in trying to find her
sister that went on.
SPEAKER_03 (09:34):
I think I saw that, yes.
That was pretty good.
That was pretty good.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (09:40):
Yeah.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (09:41):
Yeah, it was it was pretty intense.
SPEAKER_05 (09:43):
Not a lot of films based on that place, to be
honest.
SPEAKER_00 (09:47):
Well, I mean, think about it.
How many people really go, likenobody, I guess I'm gonna say
almost on Halloween time is whenpeople really go looking for,
you know, any haunted spots.
Google, pictures.
Right, yeah, and look to seewhat it is.
Like, even when it came toAnnabelle, nobody thought
anything about Annabelle.
You know what I mean?
And then when the movie cameout, people like, oh, it's for
real?
It's out there.
(10:07):
Oh, and then they started tofollow it, they started to look
free.
Right.
SPEAKER_05 (10:11):
And everyone starts collecting those raggedy and
dolls.
SPEAKER_02 (10:14):
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (10:15):
Yeah, for anchor and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_02 (10:16):
Right, because the original doll was actually a
raggedy and doll.
It was not the doll that's inthe movie.
Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (10:22):
Okay, yeah, yeah.
No, yeah.
They couldn't get the six rate,they they couldn't get the
license, I guess, for that.
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (10:28):
Well, yeah, it's not more people that are scared of
that.
SPEAKER_04 (10:30):
Yeah, but they they probably wouldn't want to give
the license.
They're trying not to assumescared that.
SPEAKER_00 (10:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (10:35):
So what if you heard that's what I heard?
SPEAKER_05 (10:36):
They're like, no, you can't have our doll.
That's that's what they'rekeeping from buying it.
SPEAKER_04 (10:41):
Right.
Yeah, that is great.
I have a question.
So now, Mina, you're so you'relike a medium clairvoyant.
Is that what you can like uh sodo you find like that like when
you're doing these, they kind ofnaturally just like some of
these like spirits or entitiesnaturally like gravitate towards
(11:02):
you because they know thatyou're like able to like
communicate or hear them or itseems like that's the case.
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (11:10):
Um solely because lately when we've been editing
our investigations, I getdisembodied voices like she's
here, or hey, hey you and thingslike that, or we'll even hear my
name in the disembodied voice.
SPEAKER_05 (11:24):
Yeah, the EVP.
Yeah, EVP is on the spirit box.
A lot of times we'll catch uhyou'll hear someone saying her
name.
Like two syllable words, so youcan't really pick those up, like
Nina.
Yeah, you know.
SPEAKER_01 (11:36):
Yeah, and uh there's also moments where we play the
Ouija board over at the UnaliveBridge, the Colorado Bridge here
in Pasadena, and you couldclearly hear the spirit box
syncing up to the Ouija boardsaying that it wants to take my
soul.
SPEAKER_07 (11:50):
Oh wow.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (11:52):
Now aren't you guys happened once?
Don't you guys get a littlenervous playing with the Ouija?
I mean, isn't it the old, youknow, the rule is you know, be
careful with the Ouija becauseyou never know what you're gonna
open up and let in, you know,kind of thing.
SPEAKER_06 (12:05):
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (12:10):
I'm not even me.
I'm not even mad at YOLO.
SPEAKER_07 (12:15):
Right.
You know, at least that's whatthey say, right?
SPEAKER_05 (12:17):
I mean, we we take our precautions with with it, of
course, and we take it serious,but we've definitely got some
really compelling stuff usingit.
So it's definitely been reallybeneficial, like especially in
Japan, when we were gettingresponses in Japanese at the
cemetery.
That was crazy because it wasspelling stuff that we're like,
we don't know Japanese.
(12:38):
Right.
Were you guys writing it down?
No, we had someone, we hadsomeone that was with us that
was Japanese.
Awesome.
So he would translate, he wouldspeak in Japanese, asking
questions, and it was him andMina on the board, and it would
respond in Japanese.
SPEAKER_01 (12:55):
Oh and he was so nervous at times he would just
look away from the Ouija boardbecause he was in disbelief that
it was speaking in Japanese.
SPEAKER_05 (13:02):
Yeah, when it was like selling something he knew
what it was gonna be, he waslike, Oh no, no, don't you
creeped him out.
SPEAKER_06 (13:09):
Yeah, bro.
SPEAKER_05 (13:10):
Yeah, no, he was not okay.
He was not okay.
SPEAKER_03 (13:14):
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I see.
We'll give you an extra hundred.
SPEAKER_00 (13:17):
Don't leave.
Oh my god, that is insane.
SPEAKER_05 (13:26):
Yeah, like like that experience actually made someone
that was a skeptic a believer.
Wow, he was a good one.
SPEAKER_01 (13:32):
Yeah, he I think another thing is that I like to
do is whistling and theappalacian.
Oh guys.
SPEAKER_06 (13:40):
Oh, okay.
What happened?
SPEAKER_01 (13:43):
Supposedly you're not supposed to do that.
It brings like horrible spiritsfoot, Wendigo, Windagoes, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (13:50):
Like So wait, whistling and what?
SPEAKER_01 (13:53):
The Appalachian Mountains.
SPEAKER_04 (13:55):
The Mountain Rangers by you guys.
Yep, yeah.
Really?
Uh because we uh you know,actually it's funny.
Driving here, I actually passeda crossing for Appalachian
Trail.
SPEAKER_06 (14:04):
Ooh.
Do you ever see anything?
SPEAKER_04 (14:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right on right in Vernon.
Yeah.
No, I mean it's just like acrosswalk because you know, it
crosses the street, theAppalachian Trail.
So like, but like I mean, I'vebeen on the Appalachian Trail
like many times in the daytime,especially yeah, in the daytime,
especially as a kid, because Iwas in Boy Scouts and like I
think the Appalachian Trail likepassed our Boy Scout camp, so
we'd like go on like a partiallike hike or whatever.
(14:27):
But but like, yeah, I never wentthere at night.
Like that would be crazy.
That would be a good thing.
SPEAKER_00 (14:32):
You know what is though too?
I think for us over here, sorry,Luke, I think that for us over
here, we're so used to seeingdeer and stuff in the chairs and
the side that we're not evenpaying attention anymore to
what's the movement, yeah.
Yeah, to whatever other movementwas just a deer that was over
there, you know?
Or maybe a little bit.
Yeah, but that would probably beway different.
SPEAKER_05 (14:49):
You know what?
And that's probably that'sprobably a good thing for you
guys too, because there's onetype of like entity that's out
in the mountains there that likeyou're not supposed to pay
attention to.
It's like the the shadow guythat kind of watches.
Oh.
SPEAKER_03 (15:02):
Yeah, that's like a what it's a native folklore too.
So what do you mean?
So like even if it tries tocommunicate with you, you gotta
ignore it and not pay attentionto it at all.
SPEAKER_05 (15:11):
Yeah, you just don't take notice of it.
We saw it there when we weredriving through Pennsylvania.
I think that's what we saw whenwe were up in the Appalachians
with uh Sia.
Yeah, you see?
SPEAKER_04 (15:21):
No.
I wonder if that's what theybecause my my son, he loves
Minecraft and Enderman is like ashadow character, and if you
look at him, he comes towardsyou.
So I wonder if that's what theybased on.
SPEAKER_05 (15:31):
Oh is he kind of like a cylinder, not really like
shoulders or anything?
Yeah, he's like tall.
Yeah, Slender Male, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (15:38):
Almost like Slender Man, but yeah, just like solid
black.
Yeah, Slender Man.
Yeah.
Maybe actually that is crazy.
SPEAKER_00 (15:47):
That's what I'm saying, dude.
I'm not gonna I I I'm good.
I'm good.
You know what it is to wellbecause I've I've had my own
experiences growing up.
Like, you know, we've talkedabout over here before.
So that then for me, I'm nottrying to instigate any kind of
real communication because I'mgood.
I'm good, you know, as long aswe're not fighting.
You've had experience withoutanything.
(16:08):
Yeah, yeah.
That's the thing.
I've had the experience withouthaving to inspect.
You know, I'm saying instigateas far as like asking questions
or to move anything.
I'm not saying like, you know,argue with a, you know, or or
you know, get get crazy, youknow, like speak now.
Like, I'm not talking aboutthat.
I'm just saying, like, you know,I haven't had any, I haven't
tried to have any kind ofconversation or communication
with so that then for me, youknow, I'm just like, okay, I'm
(16:29):
gonna go this way, you know, I'mjust new to know I'm like gonna
you guys would absolutely youwould love the Chinese
investigators.
SPEAKER_05 (16:35):
Like over there, the culture is like if you see a
ghost, you're supposed to curseat it and try to fight it.
SPEAKER_00 (16:40):
What really?
What for?
SPEAKER_04 (16:44):
Right.
See, no, I don't know.
Like it's like I guess theybelieve that like it can't they
like you can overpower like youknow, you like you face your
fear kind of thing and stand upto it.
SPEAKER_03 (16:53):
Yeah.
I gotcha.
Yeah.
Well, you know, it's cu it'snice when you see different
cultures and how they respondand how they deal with these
things.
You know, that's not how wealways do it.
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00 (17:07):
So now here's the funny.
It's funny that you say thatbecause when I was living in
Florida, I used to work theovernight.
I get home and my girlfriend wasin the house, the girl I was
dating at the time.
And laying in the bed, I'mtrying to go to sleep.
And I felt something tickling myfeet.
I thought it was her.
I'm like, do me a favor, please.
I know I'm just tired.
I want to go to sleep.
(17:27):
She's like, Yeah.
She says, Stop.
I'm like, what?
And I look over and she wassitting at the head of the bed,
right by my like right by mypillow, sitting curled up, you
know, her holding her legs andshe's staring at the foot of the
bed.
I'm like, what's the matter?
She goes, I'm not the onetickling your feet.
I'm like, what?
Oh no, that is not right.
(17:47):
God's honest truth, man, nolies.
I'm sitting here, I'm tellingyou the truth.
I look down to the and I seethis dark shadow.
It was it wasn't like a itwasn't like a super like a thick
smog or anything like darkshadow like that.
It was a light shadow.
So for a hot second, I thoughtit was just a reflection of
something coming in from outsidebecause it was still morning
(18:08):
time.
And like I said, I was I hadjust gotten home from the
overnight shift.
And I was like, and I looked andI was like, uh, if you don't go
away and stop tickling my feet,I promise you, when I die, I'm
gonna find you, I'm gonna beatyour ass.
It did.
And I and it kind of like justlike it stopped, like it
stopped, it almost like stoodup, and she looked at it, and
(18:29):
she kind of my girlfriend kindof like sat back a little bit
more, but looked up toward theceiling, and then it just kind
of like just kind of like fellback and disappeared into the
closet.
I was like, all right, cool,it's gone.
So yeah, and then she laid down.
So, but still, it was because Iwas super tired that I was brave
enough to do that shit.
I'm not spirit.
SPEAKER_05 (18:50):
Spirit was like, damn, okay, it's cool.
SPEAKER_00 (18:53):
Sorry.
It's creepy.
I sleepy out.
It's like I'm not messing withthese Brooklyn guys.
SPEAKER_03 (18:58):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (18:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (18:59):
Listen, if you don't get it, we're gonna give you a
bait.
SPEAKER_05 (19:02):
You understand me?
That's why I can't hang my feetoff the side of the bed.
SPEAKER_04 (19:06):
Really?
Yeah, same thing.
I don't like hanging my feet offthe bed either.
SPEAKER_05 (19:10):
Something's gonna grab you.
SPEAKER_00 (19:12):
I'm with my feet off the bed all day going and off
the bed.
I'm at I'm done.
Well, what about when we weretalking about?
SPEAKER_05 (19:20):
I've seen too many horror films.
SPEAKER_03 (19:22):
Right, yeah, too many, for sure.
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (19:24):
But even when I was a kid and like, you know, I was
I I would I would I think thethe the dog the dogs from
Ghostbusters were gonna eat myfeet.
Oh, the hellhounds.
Yeah, the hellhounds.
I thought a hellhound was gonnaOh my God.
Ghostbusters.
SPEAKER_05 (19:38):
I think there was there was a story about like I
think it was a home invasionkind of story where w a woman
thought it was her dog like inher hand while she was hanging
off the bed.
I didn't like an Urban Legend.
Yes, yes, Urban Legends.
There was like some guyunderneath the bed.
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (19:53):
Oh my god.
See?
Yeah, but again, I believe so,you know, for me and my
upbringing, you know, I have abig super spirit that's my like
guardian angel.
So I trust in my guardian angelmaking sure that nothing's gonna
happen to me.
You know what I'm saying?
So for me, I have no problem, Ihave no problem with my hand
over the side of the bed or myfoot, you know.
(20:15):
I walk into places like at my myjob, you know, I have keys to
get in.
So the place is pitch black, andI'm just walking in there
without the lights on and stuff,and people are looking at me
like, oh, you just gonna dothat?
I'm like, there's nothing, what?
Let's go.
Come on.
You know, now we hear things,I'm telling you, the building I
work in is haunted.
We I we smell cigarettes becausethere was a gentleman that used
(20:38):
to work there.
I remember you mentioned that onthe episode, yeah.
And we he used to smell he was aheavy smoker, and every once in
a while, either around hisbirthday or the time that he
passed, we would smell thecigarettes for a few days.
You know, meanwhile, nobodythere is smoking.
SPEAKER_03 (20:52):
Well, remember what happened when when Irene passed,
my cousin recently passed.
Oh, that's right.
I came home to the house,cigarettes, and she smoked
cigarettes and it stunk likecigarettes in the house.
Now I'm an ex-moker and I knowwhat cigarettes smell like.
And I I looked at my wife, I'mlike, you smell that, right?
She's like, Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (21:08):
Isn't that very interesting how smell can like
like linger or just like kind ofshow up out of nowhere?
Like a very I don't know.
I I don't know how to explainthat.
It's like scientifically, too.
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00 (21:20):
Yeah.
Well, what about perfumes orcolognes?
Right.
I have those too.
I've smelled my grandmother'sperfume, and she passed when I
was like freaking 14 years old,a little bit younger.
SPEAKER_03 (21:30):
If I smell mothballs, which you don't smell
a lot, my grandmother always hadthem in her closet.
Jesus, I hated them chicks.
Uh yeah, I know, but it's asmell that I recognize and I
knew what it was always from.
So you know what's the firstthing that pops in your head?
Yeah, that person.
Yeah.
Boom.
That is everybody And of courseI found my grandmother when she
passed away.
(21:51):
Oh.
Oh.
So that's what it is.
So I when she my mom asked me,it was Father's Day.
We were supposed to have dinnerfor Father's Day.
She said, Go upstairs and see ifyour grandmother's up there.
But before she had that, she hadme run it to each store all over
the block to figure out whereshe might be.
So I wound up going up and mymother said, by the time you got
out the door, I knew you werealready upstairs, because I was
(22:11):
what, 13, 14?
Right.
I flew up those stairs.
Yep.
And I found my grandmother.
She looked like she had hadheart atta had a heart attack,
tried to get up, but didn't makeit.
So yeah.
So whenever I smell the mobbles,which you don't really see a lot
or smell, right?
Nobody really uses that.
But when you get it, you'relike, oh, grandma.
SPEAKER_00 (22:29):
You know exactly what that is.
Exactly.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Now, with you guys, how what wasthe first experience for you
that made you say, you knowwhat, this is what I want to do.
I want to, you know, just well,this is this is just what I want
to do.
SPEAKER_01 (22:44):
I think for me, it's uh a cluster of a lot of shared
experiences throughout my life.
I used to have them with my mom,and when I say shared
experience, I would keep thisinformation from myself.
Like one night I saw this bigold black mask like appear in
front of me and had a weirdlight inside its chest.
And I thought maybe 'cause I wasa you know a kid, I was
(23:06):
imagining it and it justdissipated.
But that morning my mother wascrying to my grandmother, saying
she saw a shadow person with alight in its chest staring at
her at night.
So like things like that.
And also I I have this weirdthing where I freak out
technology.
SPEAKER_05 (23:25):
Yeah, she's one of those type of like cleverly
people.
SPEAKER_01 (23:29):
Like I I literally went to fitness or 24 hour
fitness and he was like, Oh,sign up right here, and it was a
computer monitor, and I waslike, Oh, I'm gonna break this.
And he's like, It's just yourname and email.
And when I did that and Ientered it, the whole screen
went black.
And like it wouldn't start upagain.
SPEAKER_05 (23:49):
Whoa.
Or technology does not like her.
I can I could I could definitelyverify that.
SPEAKER_01 (23:56):
Or when like I uh was leaving back home from
Japan, for some reason they havethese electronic baggage claims
where you put your checked inbaggage and it was working for
everyone, and when I go there itsaid error, and then I the
Japanese man was like, Oh, letme help you, I'll move you to
this next one, and it said erroragain, and it had to do it
(24:18):
manually.
So things like that.
SPEAKER_04 (24:22):
Well, if you think about it, right?
Those like like when you'redoing the investigations, right?
Those EMF frequencies, right?
Don't like like it's gotta betied into something like along
with lines, you know what Imean?
So like the EMF is probablymessing up the computer, like
it's uh there's something withlike the spirit world and like
(24:46):
musical frequencies.
So like if you're if if you're amedium, I I could I I could
totally see how that would youknow mess up electronics and
stuff like that, if that's youknow what I mean?
SPEAKER_05 (24:58):
You like create your own magnetic field around you as
like a survey person.
So like that's I feel likethat's why a lot of spirits are
attracted to her because she haslike such a huge like amount
probably coming out of her likethessal.
Yeah, just out of her aura andit's natural for you.
Right.
So it freaks out tech and allthat kind of stuff.
(25:18):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (25:19):
We talk to other mediums that have the same issue
too, and they say that they feellike a walking battery pack for
people.
That makes sense.
That makes sense.
SPEAKER_03 (25:29):
But because don't they say that when they do some
investigations that a lot of thetimes the entities will use the
power from either the cameras orsomething?
Don't they like lose batterypower right away?
Like this I just charge thisthing and it's gone.
SPEAKER_05 (25:43):
Right.
Right.
You know, kind of it's it'shappened to us.
It's completely happened to us.
But then there's a thing we callwe all call this a paranormal
hangover.
It's literally like the nextday, dude.
You guys you feel so drained,like just physically and like
mentally drained after aninvestigation, because they're
just pulling your energy outreally.
SPEAKER_04 (26:02):
Oh yeah, I can imagine.
You know, it's interesting too,is I know you guys talked about
it recently on the podcast, butyou guys were talking about some
uh UFO stuff and someextraterrestrial stuff, right?
Oh yeah.
So it's funny because if youlook up more recent stuff about
that is they kind of tie intogether if you think about it.
Like because you have like thepsionics who are like same
(26:25):
thing.
Like they're like kind of likeclairvoyant or you know, maybe
able to attract telekinetically,you know, or whatever.
So I it's probably I would Ithink it's gotta be on the same
lines.
SPEAKER_05 (26:37):
No, we definitely believe that one thing we
noticed with research that a lotof rocket scientists were also a
part of the occult.
There's a lot of like a cultoccultists that were rocket
scientists back, especiallyduring like the whole like
fifties and sixties, like whenthat was a fun fact.
SPEAKER_01 (26:58):
You guys know the movie The Exorcist, everyone
knows that movie.
Right.
And that's actually based onLittle Boy, the actual little
boy.
But what people don't know isthat after that whole endeavor
of being possessed, quoteunquote, he started diving deep
in fascination of space, andthen he even joined NASA right
after.
SPEAKER_02 (27:19):
Wow, no idea.
SPEAKER_01 (27:20):
So what was possessing him?
Like maybe an alien waspossessing him.
SPEAKER_05 (27:23):
Yeah, that's so we think that maybe like spirits we
have like a lot of differentlike theories, like okay, maybe
they are extraterrestrial, maybethey're interdimensional being
right, yeah.
Like we don't know exactly whatwho we're talking to.
Like, I mean we did aninvestigation at Skinwalker
Ranch and Oh, it was it wascool.
(27:43):
We had that we definitely hadexperience, but like our
equipment was like setting offlike the MF protector was coming
off in frequencies.
Wow.
Which is really weird.
And then we've got EVPs, but wedon't know if we're speaking to
an like a dark spirit orpossibly something else.
We don't know.
SPEAKER_00 (28:02):
That's insane.
I think it's just for me, I I Ilike I said I get a kick out of
watching it because it's onlybecause for me it's uh just
knowing that it's like you know,I guess it's like that other
dimension, or or you know, justthe afterlife, or like you guys
just said, you know, it could besomething from uh just a
(28:23):
different dimension.
We don't know who's from comingfrom where.
They say Bigfoot.
So I watched that uh FindingBigfoot, I think the name of the
show.
And they I mean, you know, younever know how much of it is
real, I guess, but it lookedlike there was a shadow walking
on the other side of the uh theuh river that they were on, uh
and then all of a sudden it justuh disappeared.
And it was in front of the treesand it was so it was in front of
(28:49):
the trees between where we werelike the people were the cameras
were set up and looking, andthen it just literally just
disappeared.
It looked like they walked intolike a portal or something.
Yeah, a portal or something.
Like you couldn't see and justdisappeared.
SPEAKER_01 (29:01):
I'm like you know, like a lot of people a lot of
people believe that Bigfoot isan interdimensional being.
That he like goes into likeportals.
SPEAKER_05 (29:12):
Yeah, that even goes back to like local native lore
too.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (29:15):
Harry May.
SPEAKER_05 (29:16):
Yeah, like uh we have a friend we talk to quite
often.
He's a him and his family areinvestigators over in New York
by Buffalo.
And we met up with them beforewe went to the hemp sale.
And I don't know if you guysknow that place or not, but it
has a lot of crazy stories toit.
Really?
But he would tell us about sixfoot siding scenario and how he
(29:37):
really believes that they areinterdimensional and the whole
native lore to it is related tothat.
Yeah, I don't know, right.
Right.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (29:45):
Same thing with Abominable Snowman, which I
think right they might be.
Or Windigo, they might all bekind of rel no, which is a Yeti
man that's over here.
Yeah, is Windigo and BombableSnowman the same thing?
Yeti usually or Yeti.
Yeti, that's the right Yeti.
SPEAKER_05 (30:00):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:00):
Have you guys heard of the human being?
SPEAKER_05 (30:03):
Oh yeah, that's a recent thing we just found.
Really?
SPEAKER_01 (30:05):
Yeah, we didn't know that that existed.
SPEAKER_00 (30:07):
See, I heard about the sort of thing.
SPEAKER_01 (30:08):
I mean it might be like a Soviet thing.
SPEAKER_00 (30:10):
Oh really?
Yeah.
I heard about it on a show theother day not too long.
Yeah.
I just heard about that one too.
SPEAKER_06 (30:17):
Freaky looking.
SPEAKER_00 (30:18):
Yeah.
But that's the thing.
So now they also say too, a lotof the stuff, uh, a lot of
things that people see aremanifestations of the of asking
for it.
You know, like Slender Man, youknow, you're putting that out
there and that's the one.
Yeah, you're projecting that andthat's what you're getting back.
Could this be the power of themind at that point?
Well, because I'm saying now,what if it's that it's the
spirit, you know, that you likeyou know, you guys go out and
(30:41):
you'll investigate, but thenbecause of what we're putting
out, uh that little bit of fearor you know, letting our
imagination just run get thebetter of us, that that's what
the image is.
That that's what whatever spiritis really showing us.
SPEAKER_01 (30:55):
No, maybe manifesting our own entities.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (30:59):
You're welcoming unf unnamed and unfaced uh entities
to places that are.
SPEAKER_03 (31:04):
Right.
Yeah.
You could be doing like we spokelast time, you could be doing it
without even knowing it either.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yep.
You know, that's what you got tobe careful of.
What you say sometimes.
SPEAKER_00 (31:16):
Well, yeah, you know, be careful what you wish.
You can only run so fast.
SPEAKER_03 (31:19):
I'm just saying.
SPEAKER_00 (31:21):
For sure.
So now when's the next time youguys think you're gonna be out
on this side of the country, outon the east coast?
SPEAKER_05 (31:27):
You come here often?
Oh we haven't been there often.
We did take a trip toPennsylvania where we drove
around, went to New Jersey, NewYork City, we went to Suki
Hollow.
Yes.
Uh also one night we checked outoh gosh, it's like an abandoned
village up there.
It's kind of a little past SukiHollow.
Oh.
SPEAKER_01 (31:46):
But we haven't gone there often.
We do want to go back to thestreet.
SPEAKER_05 (31:49):
Yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_01 (31:50):
It depends on finances.
Right.
You guys are all the way on theother side.
SPEAKER_05 (31:54):
Yeah, and it's actually cheap it's cheaper to
fly to Japan than it is to overthere.
Really?
Welcome to New York.
SPEAKER_00 (32:02):
Come on, that is funny.
That is funny.
Yeah, well, because I mean, youknow, there are so many places
here that there's a lot of youknow, and and so many abandoned
like psychiatric hospitals.
Oh, yeah.
Um, like you guys said.
SPEAKER_05 (32:20):
Yeah, you guys have a lot over there.
Yes.
We're jealous.
We're jealous.
Over here in LA, if if it'sabandoned, it's like full of
people that want to stab you.
SPEAKER_07 (32:29):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (32:30):
Yeah, see, hours are so scary, people don't want to
go in there.
Yeah, you know.
Like, where was I wasLynchworth?
Part of the Yeah, that's it.
That's the Lynchworth village.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
So I've been there.
I've driven past it.
I've actually driven through it.
And yeah, bro, listen, you feelthe people, you feel things
somebody is people are lookingat you as you're driving
(32:51):
through.
Oh, yeah.
Really?
No lie.
Yeah, I did it.
Matter of fact, I did it thispast summer.
I was driving past.
SPEAKER_05 (32:56):
Yeah, it's like it's like a hundred or so abandoned
buildings and the wholeproximity.
SPEAKER_00 (33:00):
Yeah, it is bananas.
SPEAKER_05 (33:03):
How old are they?
SPEAKER_00 (33:04):
Well, so well that was like in the 70s because late
1800s?
Yeah.
So late 1800s to the 70s and allthe same.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because the 70s is around thetime that they closed it,
because that's where GeraldoRivera went and reported that it
was uh all uh they were treatingeverybody badly and whatnot.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (33:20):
Yeah, they did a lot of bad stuff there to people.
SPEAKER_00 (33:23):
Yep.
Then you have what's the otherone?
Mohawk Mountain.
SPEAKER_04 (33:27):
Oh, Mohawk Mountain, yeah.
That's in uh uh what what whatwhat what uh what city is that
in?
It's around the Mohawk is yeah,it's not too far from here.
SPEAKER_00 (33:35):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, just before Kingston.
But even though they were there,but now people are the are are
actually live there.
Um not live there, but theyvisit.
Are you guys familiar with theTV show Upload?
Upload?
No.
Well, because Upload is wherethey film like that's the hotel
that you see outside.
Mohawk Mountainhouse.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (33:53):
Mohawk.
Okay, I'll check that out.
Yeah, it's a good idea.
SPEAKER_01 (33:56):
I have a question for you guys.
Uh-huh.
My question is, did you see ourlatest post on Instagram?
The red eye entity that wecaptured?
What do you think that might be?
SPEAKER_00 (34:06):
So we're trying to figure out that out.
So for me, I think it was uhsomebody watching you.
SPEAKER_05 (34:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (34:14):
Yes, I think it was somebody watching you because uh
it w it looks like it's lookingstraight at you.
SPEAKER_05 (34:20):
Like it's like it looks like a head kind of angled
out, like someone kind oflingering around the corner.
SPEAKER_01 (34:24):
Yeah, when you brighten up the photo, it you
can see an outline of someone.
SPEAKER_00 (34:27):
Yeah, see, I'm thinking it looks like somebody
like a almost like a werewolfkind of look, I guess, would say
something like that.
It looked like it has some extraears, or longer ears, I'm saying
extra ears.
Some long ears.
SPEAKER_05 (34:37):
Very humanoid looking.
And it's about I would say aboutfive feet tall or so.
Whatever that is.
Wow.
SPEAKER_00 (34:43):
Yeah, that's that's insane.
But I saw that thing, I waslike, man, please tell me that
that was something that theyjust ended up coming across.
Like, I don't I don't evenunderstand it.
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_05 (34:51):
You know what?
We're happy we did not notice ituntil we got home and went over
footage.
SPEAKER_01 (34:56):
Yeah, weeks later.
SPEAKER_00 (34:58):
Yeah, 'cause that that's literally gonna haunt it.
You know what I mean?
Like that's gonna come back andyou're like, what the hell is
that?
Like, where was it?
SPEAKER_01 (35:04):
What's uh what's creepy is that the EVPs we got
in that room, uh, they were kindof sounding like children.
SPEAKER_05 (35:11):
Yeah.
That was creepy.
SPEAKER_01 (35:13):
Yeah, it felt like children whispering and
chuckling.
Yeah, they even said during theinvestigation, I was like, I
hear children, but I don't thinkthese are kids.
I was like, nope.
SPEAKER_05 (35:22):
Yeah, it felt very uh interesting there.
We're like, we tried to leaveonce and we heard like one of
the prayer benches, like the pewbenches, someone sat in one of
them.
You can hear that noise and sherecognized it because we went to
Catholic school.
SPEAKER_01 (35:35):
I know that that one's a good thing.
SPEAKER_05 (35:36):
Wow, yeah, Catholic school.
We were about to like walk outand just check out the
environment and stuff, but wewent back in and that's when we
started catching a lot of theaudios, and when we left again,
that's when we caught that.
SPEAKER_01 (35:49):
The red eye staring back at us.
SPEAKER_05 (35:51):
Right.
That's so creepy.
SPEAKER_04 (35:53):
Yeah, that is creepy though.
I think Yeah, we want to goback.
When I see the eyes staring atyou, you know, right away I
think of uh penny wise, youknow.
Anyway, those are those areyellow eyes though, but still.
Yeah, I see the eyes glowing.
SPEAKER_03 (36:06):
Because any guy's glowing is scary.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (36:10):
Speaking of that, what is your guys' favorite
Stephen King film?
What what actually which onescared you the most as a kid?
SPEAKER_00 (36:17):
Pet Cemetery.
Pet Cemetery, I don't know howto say the same thing.
Pet Cemetery?
Yeah, the shining.
Louis the Shining.
SPEAKER_04 (36:22):
Shining.
Shining?
SPEAKER_03 (36:24):
The Shining.
SPEAKER_04 (36:25):
Shining scared me, but Pets something about Pet
Cemetery just creeps.
SPEAKER_03 (36:29):
That was just that was just with the kid and
everything.
Yeah, that's what it was.
SPEAKER_00 (36:33):
Hello?
Oh, yeah.
You put you're burying your dogand the f and and yeah, listen,
and it comes back to life.
Well, your pet, that's that'sscary as dog, get out.
SPEAKER_03 (36:41):
Remember, that doesn't come back the same.
SPEAKER_04 (36:43):
Yeah, they come back all because the they said the
ground got sour.
They used that's the old man whoused the ground got sour.
Yeah, bro.
SPEAKER_00 (36:50):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Later for that, it was scary.
Dagnabit, that is misname.
Which but about yours?
SPEAKER_03 (36:57):
I got a bunch of evil Dead is another one for me.
SPEAKER_01 (37:00):
Evil Dead is another When they come to Stephen King
for me, it's the cat's eye,because I don't like that little
troll thing coming out of thewall.
SPEAKER_04 (37:07):
I forgot about it Oh, I love that.
I I love that because it's allit's an anthology.
But you know which one I haven'twatched?
Yeah, The Monkey.
unknown (37:15):
Really?
SPEAKER_01 (37:16):
Oh, you would like that.
I want to see that.
I want to see that.
If you like gore, like that'syeah, it's a kind of final for
you.
SPEAKER_03 (37:28):
Oh, yeah, it's like that's so bad.
So bad.
SPEAKER_05 (37:33):
But like me, uh, it's not scary, but my favorite
King book and movie was Misery.
SPEAKER_03 (37:38):
Misery.
Wow, this is gonna hurt you moremean than it hurts you.
She hobbles them.
Oh man.
SPEAKER_04 (37:47):
You know what I will say about Cat's eye though?
I love the what is it, SmokersIncorporated or whatever?
SPEAKER_06 (37:54):
Oh, which is a little gal.
SPEAKER_04 (37:56):
Right.
Right.
Yeah, where like like they theyput the the the they like that
first they they threaten himlike with the cat, and the next
time it'll be your wife, andsure enough she was there.
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01 (38:08):
Like it was Yeah, that was a good one.
SPEAKER_00 (38:11):
That is great, man.
SPEAKER_03 (38:13):
Yeah, Stephen King has a very uh very uh good
imagination for sure.
SPEAKER_05 (38:19):
I know.
Psychological.
We've been watching the dairyshow too.
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (38:23):
Oh yeah, we love that.
I I I love watching that.
That's you know, like I wastalking about on the podcast a
couple uh a couple podcasts agoabout like the they show like
the birthing of the stoning ofBenny Wise, at least in that
year, because I know it's every27 years, so like that time when
showing coming out, so it waskind of cool.
Such weird stuff.
SPEAKER_06 (38:48):
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (38:50):
So they speculate that like he's he usually killed
kids or like unalives kidspretty brutally, but except for
the kids that you knowinevitably unalive him is uh
there it's because they have theshining or the shining,
basically.
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_07 (39:06):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (39:07):
So that's the whole okay.
No, I'm just trying to I Ididn't know that.
SPEAKER_00 (39:11):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (39:13):
Like, that's why, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (39:17):
Yeah.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, telling you, listen, itit's crazy because it it I think
what messes you up is that thenyou sit back and you try not to
have that thought or thosethoughts because of what's
happening in the uh in the show.
So this way it doesn't happen toyou.
If that makes any sense.
SPEAKER_01 (39:34):
You know what I mean?
Like Candyman.
SPEAKER_00 (39:36):
Right.
Like I'm not saying Candymanthree times in the mirror
because as a kid, I was like,where's the line drawn?
SPEAKER_01 (39:45):
Like, I was so scared to even look at my
reflection on the toaster.
I was like, is this does thatcount?
Yes, it counts.
SPEAKER_04 (39:51):
It counts.
Wow.
Or what about just looking intolike a pond?
SPEAKER_00 (39:57):
You know, no flexion.
The reflection there.
Yeah.
The reflection counts.
It doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_05 (40:03):
Yes.
Wait, what's what's Japanesehorror movie where she comes out
of water?
Is it like tomorrow?
Is it is that is that the ring?
Is that the ring?
Yeah, yeah.
Is the ring because she comesout of water too?
Or am I thinking like darkwater?
SPEAKER_00 (40:15):
She was in the wet dark water.
She was in the well, so she'salways wet, you know?
Right.
So yeah, it would like thiswould be the same thing.
But yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (40:22):
Okay.
SPEAKER_06 (40:22):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (40:23):
Did you guys know that like coming back from
Japan?
We actually, well, Mina had somethe ring or grudge type moments
of a spirit that we brought backwith us.
SPEAKER_07 (40:32):
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (40:37):
Yeah.
You might as well name it.
Excuse me, do you have anythingto claim?
SPEAKER_00 (40:42):
Yeah, for real.
Yeah.
Yeah, right?
Did you yeah, right?
Did you have to claim when yougot through customs?
SPEAKER_05 (40:47):
Just a Japanese curse.
SPEAKER_01 (40:48):
I love that Nick was like, hey, do me a favor, don't
be bringing any grudge-likespirits back home.
And I'm like, I can't controlthat.
I kept just like, hey, you guysstay here.
That's all the one I broughthome.
Oh yeah.
So it was like daytime, and Iwas putting my collectibles,
because I'm a nerd, away on mybookcase.
(41:10):
And the bookcase is right upagainst the wall.
And so I felt like something wasstaring at me when I was taking
one of my collectibles off theground.
And when I looked up, I sawblack hair seeping back behind
the bookcase.
Oh he came home and I was like,so So what happened?
SPEAKER_05 (41:35):
Yeah, what happened was And we've been hearing uh
noises up in her attic spaceabove her bed, too.
SPEAKER_04 (41:43):
Isn't that what some that's like right from the
grudge, isn't that when they'rein the attic?
I know.
Isn't that the one that goes?
SPEAKER_00 (41:49):
Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_04 (41:51):
Oh isn't that the one that goes ah?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But why does everybody go in?
SPEAKER_05 (41:56):
It's time to run out of the house.
SPEAKER_06 (41:58):
Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_05 (42:00):
I'm I'm not even kidding you guys, too.
It's like spirits in Japan areprecisely how they portray them
in their horror films.
Like how they look, and like Idon't know, it's just they they
know what they're doing.
unknown (42:12):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (42:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (42:15):
See?
Because people saw them.
Yeah, but like I said, thepeople saw them.
Before they wrote the story,they saw these.
Oh, they did it.
They got it from somewhere.
Yeah.
Have you guys seen thoseJapanese kernel investigator
videos?
I have, yes.
I've seen like just random ones,yes.
SPEAKER_05 (42:33):
Like, have you seen the ones where they actually
show like where they capturelike a woman's face looking at
them?
They look exactly like thegrudge.
Oh, that's green, bro.
SPEAKER_00 (42:43):
That's I see like now that's why they made the
movie so well.
SPEAKER_04 (42:46):
Because they were like, oh, this is what the
ghosts look like.
But see?
SPEAKER_00 (42:49):
So for me, I was always thinking.
But see, I was sat, I was tryingto stay on that whole mental
thing, like, you know what?
That's just what they did forthe TV to make it, you know,
just look like that.
And now you just turn around andmade a state that yo, it's real,
bro.
It's real.
SPEAKER_03 (43:02):
So I know I'm not you know, when I was a kid, we
talked about this on the podcastreal quick, of feeling stuff.
And remember, we talked about Ilived in Brooklyn.
My fo we had an apartmentbuilding.
My father was a superintendent,and I would work on my bike down
in the basement.
So we talked about this, and Iwould always go once in a while,
I would get this feeling likesomething was watching me.
(43:23):
You know, and I would run out ofthe shop and I always told Kenny
and Tom, I would run out intothe sunlight because for me that
was like my safe space.
So I would go out there and Iwould go, but I definitely was
feeling something, you know, youjust feel it, and I'm like, all
right, I'm out.
SPEAKER_00 (43:37):
Yeah.
See you later.
Running out of here.
I'm gone.
Need us for that, mess.
That is too good, man.
Well, I appreciate you guysbeing on with us, man.
Thank you so, so, so what whatwait before you go?
Louis got one more second.
SPEAKER_03 (43:51):
Yeah, but what what what else can we expect from you
guys?
What's uh what's in the future?
Anything that we should belooking forward to, or you guys
got anything planned?
SPEAKER_01 (44:00):
So it I believe in December we are gonna launch the
video of us investigating theunalive forest in Japan.
And then uh starting next year,we're gonna go to Mexico City to
do Island of the Dolls thatnight.
SPEAKER_05 (44:14):
Nice.
That's very sad and tried toback in La Lorona.
SPEAKER_00 (44:20):
Oh, yes.
Oh you guys are bugging it.
So yeah, Yorona, you guys arecrazy.
I'm glad I asked.
Yeah, did Yorona that's the onethat she's gonna be there.
You're gonna see her.
SPEAKER_05 (44:30):
Oh man.
And yeah, that I'm lookingforward to.
We're gonna be having anotherparanormal team or two join us
on that investigation.
Yeah.
And possibly it's fantomi.
SPEAKER_01 (44:43):
From yeah, Lindsay from It's Fantomi.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (44:46):
By the way, if you guys come up this way or some
other time in the future, uh uhFull Moon Paranormal is another
parama paranormal group that'sup here.
So if you ever want to pair upwith someone else up here, we've
actually had them on our podcastas well.
And I actually went to thehouse.
SPEAKER_05 (45:03):
We probably followed them already.
You probably do.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (45:06):
So, but they are up here, they're local, and they've
done a lot of different things,a lot of different places.
Probably a lot of places youalready know about, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_05 (45:14):
Would you guys like to join on paranormal
investigation too?
SPEAKER_03 (45:17):
Sure, why not?
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_05 (45:18):
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (45:18):
Yeah, I'll watch.
Yeah, yeah, I'll sit in the van.
I'll be the chauffeur.
I got you.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (45:27):
No, I'm gonna say, it'd be like uh, what's his name
in the van?
What was the guy in uh Punisher?
His his his sidekick that was inthe van all the time.
SPEAKER_05 (45:35):
Oh, with the with the cameras going and stuff.
SPEAKER_04 (45:38):
He had like a name like Power Up or something.
I'd be down for it.
Yeah, Tom Bro Chip or something.
SPEAKER_05 (45:44):
You'll be uh you'll be home based.
SPEAKER_00 (45:45):
Yeah, yeah.
Todd will be.
I got snacks, I have to do that.
SPEAKER_03 (45:48):
Then you will do that, and Tom and I will join
you.
Definitely for sure.
SPEAKER_00 (45:52):
Oh yeah.
I'll put salt around the vanthis way.
SPEAKER_03 (45:54):
We're all safe with the I'll make sure I bathe in uh
holy water before I come.
SPEAKER_00 (45:58):
I got the spray water of the holy spray.
Yeah, some stage and stuff.
Don't worry, I got you guys onthe way back in.
Yeah, no problem.
That is funny as hell, man.
But yes, fixing some stage.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, right.
Absolutely.
I'm gonna start practicingtomorrow.
I'm gonna start looking atstage.
SPEAKER_05 (46:15):
Yeah, it's on order.
Yeah, thank you guys.
Yeah, we're more than happy tocome on the show whenever.
Yeah, good.
Absolutely.
Yeah, that'd be great.
SPEAKER_04 (46:24):
And if you happen to be in the area, uh when you you
can come on for a live recordingtoo, you know?
Yeah, come down over here.
SPEAKER_00 (46:30):
You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, man.
Hang out with us, you know.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, this is fun.
I appreciate it.
SPEAKER_05 (46:36):
We have to get some get some good food too.
SPEAKER_00 (46:38):
Oh, and by two.
We got to.
Yeah, so tell us what you want.
Absolutely.
Look forward to that.
This is like the eating corner.
Thank you for the good one.
Yes, you too.
You too.
Thank you, thank you.
Thank you.
Bye.
Bye bye.
Yes, so that was awesome.
So uh thank you everybody elsefor listening.
(47:00):
Thank you for watching.
See you on the next one.
Love peace and hair, grease.
Live long and prosperous spooky.
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