March 3, 2025 • 15 mins
Lent is more than just a time of sacrifice; it’s an opportunity for transformation and healing, especially for those navigating grief. In this episode, we explore the essential themes of Lent, highlighting how this season of reflection can offer hope and healing.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Thank you so much for joining us.
(00:30):
Hello everyone and welcome backto CC Airwaves.
My name is Paige Metillo andI'm here with my co-host, joel
Hansel.
Joel, I feel like I alreadyknow the answer, but how are you
doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I'm doing better now that the record button is lit up
.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, so for our listeners we did just record
this episode.
Well, I should say we did speakinto the microphones.
Good as it was before, but youknow I'm excited.
(01:08):
Today is a beautiful dayoutside.
It's the first time I've seenthe sun in quite a few weeks,
considering we just had thatcold storm.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I'm still falling out .
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, even though there was a small hiccup in the
road, there are still positivestoday.
So just taking a second toremind Joel of that.
And Joel, you're wearing such abright yellow color Be uplifted
, you gotta wear shades, yeah.
So before we get started today,I just want to take a moment to
welcome our new listeners.
(01:39):
Joel and I have noticed a largeincrease of new listeners
lately and we're just sograteful.
You have chosen to listen toCCR Waves, so thank you for
joining us.
We are so happy to have youhere.
That being said, we would liketo take a moment to reintroduce
ourselves and the CatholicCemeteries Association.
So, to start, the CatholicCemeteries Association meets the
(02:01):
needs of individuals, familiesand parishes surrounding the
death of a loved one.
We provide pre-planningservices, personalized
headstones and monthly gravesupport groups.
We have over 20 cemeteries andeight main office locations
throughout Northeast Ohio.
Now, as I already said, my nameis Paige Mattillo.
I have been working here forabout three years and I am the
(02:25):
marketing manager.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Joel has been working here a lot longer than I have,
so I'll let him take away Just alittle bit, just a little
longer than you.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Just a little longer.
How long has it been?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
It'll be 25 years in May.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
That's a really good time, and he has loved every
single second of it.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Every second of it.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
And Joel has been here with the podcast since it
officially started in January of2020.
So we have been around.
Well, CC Airwaves has beenaround for about five years, so
thank you to our listeners,whether you are old, whether
you're new.
We just want to thank you somuch for supporting the podcast,
so if you'd like to stayupdated on our latest episodes,
(03:05):
you can follow us on socialmedia, which is at CC Airwaves,
on Instagram and Facebook.
We're also in the process ofgetting our TikTok started, so
you can follow us on there aswell.
Now let's get started.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Today we're going to reflect on the season of Lent,
which is a time of reflection,sacrifice and healing.
It is often a time of spiritualintrospection and
self-examination, which leads usto a closer relationship with
God.
But not many people realizethat Lent is also deeply
(03:42):
connected to grief, reminding usthat in our sorrow, god's grace
is always present.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
And I was just at St Dominic this weekend and my
priest actually said that Lentis not just about giving
something up but about givingsomething back.
So whether that's throughprayer, acts of kindness or
services to others and I reallylove that perspective and I
think it's really important thatpeople understand that that
(04:13):
Lent just isn't just aboutsacrifice, it's also about
transformation and as we gothrough this episode, we want
you to reflect on what Lentmeans in your own life and how
it can offer healing, especiallyin times of grief.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Lent is one of the most significant seasons in the
Catholic Church.
It lasts for 40 days, whichsymbolizes the 40 days Jesus
spent fasting in the desertpreparing for his ministry, and
during that time he facedtemptation and he relied on
God's strength to overcome it.
So Lent calls us to reflect onour own lives, detach from
(04:54):
worldly distractions and torefocus our hearts on Christ.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
And our Bereavement Coordinator, rhonda Abrams,
recently shared with me Beyondthe Broken Heart, which is
authored by Julie Yarbrough, andit beautifully describes how
Lent and grief intertwine.
She writes that bothexperiences push us to look
inward, so similar to what Joeljust said, how we have to
reflect on our own lives, and ithelps us to see who we really
(05:22):
are and what we value and whatwe're holding on to.
In grief, as in Lent, we comeface to face with our deepest
emotions and our faith is tested.
And we may just ask is ourfaith just something we carry on
the surface or is it thefoundation that sustains us?
And I think that is what trulymakes a difference Someone who
(05:44):
is truly faith-filled.
It is the foundation thatsustains us.
It's not just something that wecarry surface level.
It's something that we feel sodeeply and it's the foundation
that we are.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
For anyone that's visited our offices you may have
seen that there's a display ofcare notes which are just little
pamphlets, little bookletthings.
That kind of help you workthrough your situation in grief.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
They go over different topics, like if you've
lost a mother, a father, agrandparent, a child.
It's very situational.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Right, there's a care note that's called a Lent
journey through grief and itreminds us that Lent is a season
that reflects the passages ofgrief.
So, just as we move throughthese different stages of
mourning once or after a lovedone passes away, once or after a
(06:45):
loved one passes away Lenttakes us through different
spiritual passages.
So, for example, from loss togain, fear to trust, darkness to
light and ultimately, fromdeath to life.
And these movements mirror thejourney of grief and offer hope
(07:08):
that even in sorrow we're movingtoward renewal.
You know, I remember when I wasin Catholic elementary school
my parents took us to church Ican't remember which night of
the week, but it was earlier inthe week.
It wasn't like the HolyThursday or Good Friday, but it
(07:33):
was a Tenebrae service, that'swhat it was called.
It was called Tenebrae andduring that service, like, all
the lights in the church go darkand then you just have, like,
all these candles.
So going from that darkness tothe light was really kind of
(07:53):
exemplified in that Tenebraeservice.
Very powerful, very moving.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
But that reminds you kind of how Lent takes us
through the series of passages.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Absolutely Well.
And the time of year also.
If you think about it, you knowwe're coming out of the winter
and we're moving into the spring.
The days are getting longer.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
The sun is coming out more.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
We're going to spring forward here soon.
Oh no, you know we have Easter,you know, hopefully, you know
it's a nice 60, 65 degree dayand you've got, you know, the
bright pink flowers and yellowflowers and so you got that
(08:35):
lightness.
So you know, we start here atAsh Wednesday and it's still
kind of gloomy and gray anddepressing.
And you get to Easter and itshould be light and sunshine and
just full of happiness.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah Well, whether you are grieving or whether
you're healing, how can youobserve Lent in a meaningful way
?
And so let's break that downinto the three key practices,
which is prayer, fasting andalmsgiving.
So to start, lent is a time tostrengthen our prayer life.
(09:13):
This could mean setting moretime aside for personal
reflection, praying the rosary,attending daily mass or even
just sitting in silence with God.
I know that when I'm on my wayhome and I have a few moments to
relax and unwind, that's oftenwhen I take my few moments with
God and I sit there in thesilence and reflect.
So we can do this Any day, anytime.
(09:38):
When we dedicate time to prayer, we open ourselves up to God's
presence in our lives, and intimes of grief, prayer can
become an anchor that keeps ussteady when emotions feel
overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
The second practice you have here is fasting.
And again reflecting back to mytime in Catholic elementary
school.
It was always about what areyou going to give up?
I'm going to give up candy, I'mgoing to give up this or that,
and it was always food related,it seemed.
But fasting isn't just aboutgiving up food, it's about
(10:14):
creating space for God.
So our fast might look likeremoving distractions.
So you know, staying away fromexcessive social media, trying
to stay away from negativity,trying to remove yourself from
unhealthy thoughts.
You mentioned Julie Yarbroughearlier and in her reflection on
(10:38):
grief and Lent she mentionsthat grief often leaves behind
an emotional residue.
It's like negativity, cynicismor resentment, and we don't even
know it's there oftentimes.
So Lent is an opportunity topurge these things and make room
for healing, sort of like aspring cleaning for our
(10:59):
spiritual lives, cleaning forour our spiritual lives.
So, whereas, as the weather'sgetting nicer, we're opening up
the windows and the doors andwe're kind of blowing out the
stink, so to speak, you can dothe same thing with your
spiritual life through fasting,so that you can purge negativity
, cynicism and resentment.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And on the opposite end of that, similar to how I
was talking about earlier withthe priest from St Dominic,
almsgiving Giving to others is acentral theme of Lent, so
giving back.
This might mean donating to acharity, helping a neighbor or
simply offering encouragement tosomeone in need, or simply
offering encouragement tosomeone in need.
Almsgiving is about extendingChrist's love to others and
(11:44):
recognizing that everything wehave is a gift from God.
For those grieving, acts ofservice can be a powerful way to
channel sorrow into purpose.
And even if you aren't grievingbut you know someone who is
simply offering that personencouragement, is almsgiving,
and I would encourage you to dothat this season.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Oftentimes during Lent, you might notice at your
parish different renewals takeplace.
There might be a men's renewal,a women's renewal, different
retreats.
Lent is a time for's renewal.
A women's renewal differentretreats, and Lent is a time for
spiritual renewal andespecially for those who are
(12:33):
grieving, it can be especiallymeaningful.
It reminds us that thesuffering is not the end of the
journey.
Jesus suffered before hisresurrection, so we too.
We're going to experience pain.
We're going to experience loss.
Jesus experienced pain, heexperienced loss, but we are
never without hope.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
And back to the care note that you had mentioned
earlier, joel.
I've read it.
It describes beautifully howLent provides a path through
grief and, once again, movingfrom darkness to light.
We find hope in knowing thatdeath does not have the final
word.
And moving from loss to gain.
We realize that grief affirmsnot only what we have lost but
(13:13):
also what remains the love, thegratitude and the memories of
our loved ones.
Moving from fear to trust, wecan remember Jesus's own moments
of anguish and his decision toentrust himself to God.
And moving from sorrow to joy,we find peace in the belief that
nothing and no one is evertruly lost in God's hands.
(13:34):
So once again, it goes back tothose moments of transition and
transformation.
So, even if we might be feelingsorrowful now, eventually we
will feel joy.
Even though it's dark now,there will be light.
It's similar to how you know ifit's storming, there is going
to be a rainbow.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
A scripture verse that might be very helpful to
those who are grieving comesfrom the first letter of Peter,
chapter 5, verse 10 and 11.
And it goes and after you havesuffered for a little while, the
god of all grace, who hascalled you to his eternal glory
in christ, will himself restore,support, strengthen and
(14:16):
establish you.
This passage reminds us thatGod's grace is the love that
restores us and makes us wholeagain.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Now, as we wrap up today's episode, I just want to
take a moment to encourage youto reflect.
What are you going to be givingup or giving back this Lent?
How will you use this season togrow in faith and love?
And if you are grieving, howcan Lent offer you healing and
peace?
We'd love to hear back from you.
(14:48):
Share your Lenten journey withus on our social media by
following at CC Airwaves,sending us a message.
As I said earlier, you can sendus an email, but let's walk
this journey together as afaith-filled community.
Once again, thank you so muchfor joining us and we'll see you
next time.
Thank you so much for joining us.
(00:30):
Hello everyone and welcome backto CC Airwaves.
My name is Paige Metillo andI'm here with my co-host, joel
Hansel.
Joel, I feel like I alreadyknow the answer, but how are you
doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I'm doing better now that the record button is lit up
.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, so for our listeners we did just record
this episode.
Well, I should say we did speakinto the microphones.
Good as it was before, but youknow I'm excited.
(01:08):
Today is a beautiful dayoutside.
It's the first time I've seenthe sun in quite a few weeks,
considering we just had thatcold storm.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I'm still falling out .
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, even though there was a small hiccup in the
road, there are still positivestoday.
So just taking a second toremind Joel of that.
And Joel, you're wearing such abright yellow color Be uplifted
, you gotta wear shades, yeah.
So before we get started today,I just want to take a moment to
welcome our new listeners.
(01:39):
Joel and I have noticed a largeincrease of new listeners
lately and we're just sograteful.
You have chosen to listen toCCR Waves, so thank you for
joining us.
We are so happy to have youhere.
That being said, we would liketo take a moment to reintroduce
ourselves and the CatholicCemeteries Association.
So, to start, the CatholicCemeteries Association meets the
(02:01):
needs of individuals, familiesand parishes surrounding the
death of a loved one.
We provide pre-planningservices, personalized
headstones and monthly gravesupport groups.
We have over 20 cemeteries andeight main office locations
throughout Northeast Ohio.
Now, as I already said, my nameis Paige Mattillo.
I have been working here forabout three years and I am the
(02:25):
marketing manager.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Joel has been working here a lot longer than I have,
so I'll let him take away Just alittle bit, just a little
longer than you.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Just a little longer.
How long has it been?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
It'll be 25 years in May.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
That's a really good time, and he has loved every
single second of it.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Every second of it.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
And Joel has been here with the podcast since it
officially started in January of2020.
So we have been around.
Well, CC Airwaves has beenaround for about five years, so
thank you to our listeners,whether you are old, whether
you're new.
We just want to thank you somuch for supporting the podcast,
so if you'd like to stayupdated on our latest episodes,
(03:05):
you can follow us on socialmedia, which is at CC Airwaves,
on Instagram and Facebook.
We're also in the process ofgetting our TikTok started, so
you can follow us on there aswell.
Now let's get started.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Today we're going to reflect on the season of Lent,
which is a time of reflection,sacrifice and healing.
It is often a time of spiritualintrospection and
self-examination, which leads usto a closer relationship with
God.
But not many people realizethat Lent is also deeply
(03:42):
connected to grief, reminding usthat in our sorrow, god's grace
is always present.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
And I was just at St Dominic this weekend and my
priest actually said that Lentis not just about giving
something up but about givingsomething back.
So whether that's throughprayer, acts of kindness or
services to others and I reallylove that perspective and I
think it's really important thatpeople understand that that
(04:13):
Lent just isn't just aboutsacrifice, it's also about
transformation and as we gothrough this episode, we want
you to reflect on what Lentmeans in your own life and how
it can offer healing, especiallyin times of grief.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Lent is one of the most significant seasons in the
Catholic Church.
It lasts for 40 days, whichsymbolizes the 40 days Jesus
spent fasting in the desertpreparing for his ministry, and
during that time he facedtemptation and he relied on
God's strength to overcome it.
So Lent calls us to reflect onour own lives, detach from
(04:54):
worldly distractions and torefocus our hearts on Christ.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
And our Bereavement Coordinator, rhonda Abrams,
recently shared with me Beyondthe Broken Heart, which is
authored by Julie Yarbrough, andit beautifully describes how
Lent and grief intertwine.
She writes that bothexperiences push us to look
inward, so similar to what Joeljust said, how we have to
reflect on our own lives, and ithelps us to see who we really
(05:22):
are and what we value and whatwe're holding on to.
In grief, as in Lent, we comeface to face with our deepest
emotions and our faith is tested.
And we may just ask is ourfaith just something we carry on
the surface or is it thefoundation that sustains us?
And I think that is what trulymakes a difference Someone who
(05:44):
is truly faith-filled.
It is the foundation thatsustains us.
It's not just something that wecarry surface level.
It's something that we feel sodeeply and it's the foundation
that we are.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
For anyone that's visited our offices you may have
seen that there's a display ofcare notes which are just little
pamphlets, little bookletthings.
That kind of help you workthrough your situation in grief.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
They go over different topics, like if you've
lost a mother, a father, agrandparent, a child.
It's very situational.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Right, there's a care note that's called a Lent
journey through grief and itreminds us that Lent is a season
that reflects the passages ofgrief.
So, just as we move throughthese different stages of
mourning once or after a lovedone passes away, once or after a
(06:45):
loved one passes away Lenttakes us through different
spiritual passages.
So, for example, from loss togain, fear to trust, darkness to
light and ultimately, fromdeath to life.
And these movements mirror thejourney of grief and offer hope
(07:08):
that even in sorrow we're movingtoward renewal.
You know, I remember when I wasin Catholic elementary school
my parents took us to church Ican't remember which night of
the week, but it was earlier inthe week.
It wasn't like the HolyThursday or Good Friday, but it
(07:33):
was a Tenebrae service, that'swhat it was called.
It was called Tenebrae andduring that service, like, all
the lights in the church go darkand then you just have, like,
all these candles.
So going from that darkness tothe light was really kind of
(07:53):
exemplified in that Tenebraeservice.
Very powerful, very moving.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
But that reminds you kind of how Lent takes us
through the series of passages.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Absolutely Well.
And the time of year also.
If you think about it, you knowwe're coming out of the winter
and we're moving into the spring.
The days are getting longer.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
The sun is coming out more.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
We're going to spring forward here soon.
Oh no, you know we have Easter,you know, hopefully, you know
it's a nice 60, 65 degree dayand you've got, you know, the
bright pink flowers and yellowflowers and so you got that
(08:35):
lightness.
So you know, we start here atAsh Wednesday and it's still
kind of gloomy and gray anddepressing.
And you get to Easter and itshould be light and sunshine and
just full of happiness.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah Well, whether you are grieving or whether
you're healing, how can youobserve Lent in a meaningful way
?
And so let's break that downinto the three key practices,
which is prayer, fasting andalmsgiving.
So to start, lent is a time tostrengthen our prayer life.
(09:13):
This could mean setting moretime aside for personal
reflection, praying the rosary,attending daily mass or even
just sitting in silence with God.
I know that when I'm on my wayhome and I have a few moments to
relax and unwind, that's oftenwhen I take my few moments with
God and I sit there in thesilence and reflect.
So we can do this Any day, anytime.
(09:38):
When we dedicate time to prayer, we open ourselves up to God's
presence in our lives, and intimes of grief, prayer can
become an anchor that keeps ussteady when emotions feel
overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
The second practice you have here is fasting.
And again reflecting back to mytime in Catholic elementary
school.
It was always about what areyou going to give up?
I'm going to give up candy, I'mgoing to give up this or that,
and it was always food related,it seemed.
But fasting isn't just aboutgiving up food, it's about
(10:14):
creating space for God.
So our fast might look likeremoving distractions.
So you know, staying away fromexcessive social media, trying
to stay away from negativity,trying to remove yourself from
unhealthy thoughts.
You mentioned Julie Yarbroughearlier and in her reflection on
(10:38):
grief and Lent she mentionsthat grief often leaves behind
an emotional residue.
It's like negativity, cynicismor resentment, and we don't even
know it's there oftentimes.
So Lent is an opportunity topurge these things and make room
for healing, sort of like aspring cleaning for our
(10:59):
spiritual lives, cleaning forour our spiritual lives.
So, whereas, as the weather'sgetting nicer, we're opening up
the windows and the doors andwe're kind of blowing out the
stink, so to speak, you can dothe same thing with your
spiritual life through fasting,so that you can purge negativity
, cynicism and resentment.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And on the opposite end of that, similar to how I
was talking about earlier withthe priest from St Dominic,
almsgiving Giving to others is acentral theme of Lent, so
giving back.
This might mean donating to acharity, helping a neighbor or
simply offering encouragement tosomeone in need, or simply
offering encouragement tosomeone in need.
Almsgiving is about extendingChrist's love to others and
(11:44):
recognizing that everything wehave is a gift from God.
For those grieving, acts ofservice can be a powerful way to
channel sorrow into purpose.
And even if you aren't grievingbut you know someone who is
simply offering that personencouragement, is almsgiving,
and I would encourage you to dothat this season.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Oftentimes during Lent, you might notice at your
parish different renewals takeplace.
There might be a men's renewal,a women's renewal, different
retreats.
Lent is a time for's renewal.
A women's renewal differentretreats, and Lent is a time for
spiritual renewal andespecially for those who are
(12:33):
grieving, it can be especiallymeaningful.
It reminds us that thesuffering is not the end of the
journey.
Jesus suffered before hisresurrection, so we too.
We're going to experience pain.
We're going to experience loss.
Jesus experienced pain, heexperienced loss, but we are
never without hope.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
And back to the care note that you had mentioned
earlier, joel.
I've read it.
It describes beautifully howLent provides a path through
grief and, once again, movingfrom darkness to light.
We find hope in knowing thatdeath does not have the final
word.
And moving from loss to gain.
We realize that grief affirmsnot only what we have lost but
(13:13):
also what remains the love, thegratitude and the memories of
our loved ones.
Moving from fear to trust, wecan remember Jesus's own moments
of anguish and his decision toentrust himself to God.
And moving from sorrow to joy,we find peace in the belief that
nothing and no one is evertruly lost in God's hands.
(13:34):
So once again, it goes back tothose moments of transition and
transformation.
So, even if we might be feelingsorrowful now, eventually we
will feel joy.
Even though it's dark now,there will be light.
It's similar to how you know ifit's storming, there is going
to be a rainbow.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
A scripture verse that might be very helpful to
those who are grieving comesfrom the first letter of Peter,
chapter 5, verse 10 and 11.
And it goes and after you havesuffered for a little while, the
god of all grace, who hascalled you to his eternal glory
in christ, will himself restore,support, strengthen and
(14:16):
establish you.
This passage reminds us thatGod's grace is the love that
restores us and makes us wholeagain.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Now, as we wrap up today's episode, I just want to
take a moment to encourage youto reflect.
What are you going to be givingup or giving back this Lent?
How will you use this season togrow in faith and love?
And if you are grieving, howcan Lent offer you healing and
peace?
We'd love to hear back from you.
(14:48):
Share your Lenten journey withus on our social media by
following at CC Airwaves,sending us a message.
As I said earlier, you can sendus an email, but let's walk
this journey together as afaith-filled community.
Once again, thank you so muchfor joining us and we'll see you
next time.
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
Ridiculous History
History is beautiful, brutal and, often, ridiculous. Join Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown as they dive into some of the weirdest stories from across the span of human civilization in Ridiculous History, a podcast by iHeartRadio.