Episode 28 - Not Just Outrage, but Outcomes: Why Our Strategy Avoids the Spotlight featuring Christine Smith and Amy Gehrke

In this episode of the Centered Podcast, Missy Martinez-Stone sits down with her co-leaders at the Center for Client Safety—Christine Smith and Amy Gehrke—for a behind-the-scenes look at how they handle investigations into dangerous abortion providers.

While many in the pro-life movement focus on public exposure, Missy, Christine, and Amy explain why their organization chooses a different path: confidential enforcement through regulatory agencies, private negotiations, and trauma-informed care for the women involved.

They share real-world examples—including recent cases from Colorado and Illinois—that show how exposure can sometimes backfire, while quiet, strategic action leads to lasting reform. Plus, they dive into why seeing an ambulance outside an abortion facility isn’t always the “gotcha” moment people think it is.

If you’ve ever wondered why you don’t hear much about their biggest cases… this episode will tell you everything.

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