Bill Trousdale & Nate Myers

Happy December! This episode we have:

Bill Trousdale:
No description will do this man justice, but I will try my best.
Bill has been a radio host, announcer, voiceover specialist, production director, music director, and is currently the President of the Pennsylvania Museum of Music and Broadcast History. With an unmatched passion for radio and music, Bill is a walking history book for Central PA music.
He is also an active member of the Keystone Record Collectors.
https://www.facebook.com/natemyersandtheaces/
https://soundcloud.com/natemyersandtheaces
https://www.musicalinnertube.com/guests/bill-trousdale/

&

Nate Myers: 
2023 CPMA Best Blues Artist & 2020 Best Blues Band
You may know him from his band, Nate Myers & the Aces; a band with many dynamic sounds inspired by blues, funk, hip hop, country and even a little rock! Nate is the front man and Harmonicist of the band who has spent over 20 years in the central Pennsylvania music community. Please enjoy this segment of the show as Nate takes us through his up bringing in music and the story behind the musician he is today!


Nate Myers and the Aces have been established in Central PA for over 20 years. They are professional, flexible, and easy to work with. Lead by vocalist Nate Myers and his harmonica, the band creates a loose, casual atmosphere in which everyone can relax and have a good time! Whether the audience prefers to sit back and listen or get up and “shake that thang,” there is something for everyone. Nate Myers is an excellent musician, songwriter, and performer – the consummate entertainer who keeps the audience’s attention throughout the entire performance. The wide variety of styles, energy and sincerity in his music allows him to fit into nearly any musical genre. On a typical evening, audiences can hear influences from many forms of American music – blues, funk, hip hop, rockabilly, country and improvisation. Nate Myers & the Aces take all these styles they love and weave them into a tapestry of their own.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Central Pennsylvania Music
Podcast Tonight Bill Truesdaleand Phil Schwartz and Nate Myers
.
This episode is sponsored byMembers, First and now your
hosts, Daniel Kime and AlanMcCutcheon.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Welcome to the Central Pennsylvania Music
Podcast.
I'm your host, daniel, comingup.
We have Bill Truesdale and NateMyers of Nate Myers and the
Aces.
We're sitting here with BillTruesdale.
Bill, thank you so much forcoming on the show.
I really appreciate you comingout here for it.
You have a extensive backgroundin music, especially radio, is
that correct?

(00:50):
Yeah, that's true enough.
I guess the best way to do thiswith your history and your
experience, let's start at thebeginning.
Where did all this start foryou?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Well, short form, born in Philly, lived most of my
life in Ohio, went to school inDallas, texas, for a bit and
then went to SusquehannaUniversity, took a job at radio
in Tawanda, pennsylvania, workedat WSUS in North Jersey, then
went to Elmira in New York,worked at two different radio
stations.
Finally I get to Lancaster,pennsylvania, worked for a radio

(01:23):
station there in 1977.
And then I went across theriver and I worked at WSBA and
then up the river I went to WKBOand I would think most people
would know me from my WKBO dayson air.
Okay, after that, briefly, Iwent in partnership with a

(01:47):
native son by the name of KennyChandler.
He was a 1959 graduate of JohnHarris.
He found some national successin New York City, was on some
soap operas, did some voiceoversfor national companies like
Carnation Instant BreakfastDrink.
He also did work out inCalifornia for Yahoo.

(02:09):
He was the whiteface troubadourfor CBS television in season
1973, I believe, where he wentall across the United States and
sang this song for CBSintroducing their new season.
So he and I were partners for abit producing jingles in
central Pennsylvania, did thatfor two years and as a result

(02:30):
started to get to know some ofthe people in the studios that
were around the area.
After a couple of years, kenny,being the talent that he was,
got impatient, thought thejingle business should be moving
along quicker in centralPennsylvania than what it was.
He went back to California andthat's when since I had already
left radio broadcasting, startedlooking into radio sales and I

(02:55):
got a gig at WMSP, which wasMarket Square Presbyterian
Church and they play classicalmusic.
I was their general salesmanager and did that for several
years.
The station was 50,000 wattsbut was operating at more like
3,000 watts because the churchdidn't have the money to put
into the signal.

(03:15):
So the church eventually soldit.
They sold it to BarnstableBroadcasting, which evolved from
Mix to Oldies or cool 94, nine.
94, nine became Bob and um.
I stayed with the oldies.
Uh, when they moved oldies from94, nine to 99, three, then the

(03:40):
deregulation thing startedcoming in hot and heavy in in
regard to radio and I justwasn't really.
I was a more mom-pa radio kindof guy.
So the corporate think that wasinvolved was not necessarily my
forte.
So I went back to York and Iworked for oldies station down

(04:00):
there and 96 one and that wasBrill Media, moffitt Media out
of Red Lion and then they gotsold to Susquehanna Broadcasting
and then SusquehannaBroadcasting sold it to another
C company.
Here we go.
So again corporate thinkstarted entering into my life,

(04:24):
decided it was probably bestthat I leave.
So I took a job up in Lewistownand worked for WKVA, which was
kind of the heritage radiostation up there.
Attempted to get back intoradio and something about a 50

(04:44):
year old some person um, didn'tseem to be a lot of room in the
end for somebody of that age toget back into radio and either
broadcast or sales.
So I ended up selling furniture.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, that was okay.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
And Dan, yeah, for a while I knew that I sold those
guys.
So I, you know, they knew me, Iknew them.
So that worked fine.
And then I worked for theBrenner Boys at Ashley Furniture
, then I went to Wolf Furniture,then I started selling for
phone solicitation as we talkedabout briefly at Bath Fitter.

(05:21):
And then I went to Troegs andthen I thought, okay, it's time
to retire.
So I did Nice.
So that that's in a nutshell.
Uh, some of the things I did atKBO that might be memorable.
I, that's totally up to youraudience and who actually is
listening.
But I did a feature called theKBO kids, where I went to,
actually went out remotely andrecorded kids in elementary

(05:45):
school and I asked thempertinent questions like what
does a proctologist do, and justwaited for their answers to be
cute and clever like kids saythe darndest thing.
And they did without question.
Or what was the last thing yourmom told you you couldn't buy?
That was a CD tape.
It had a lady's boob on it.
No, can't buy that, uh.

(06:06):
So that was fun and it wasentertaining and it was maybe
for that time period a touchcontroversial, uh, but it wasn't
anything that was luke crude,but it was entertaining, because
kids do say the darndest things, that's right.
Um, I did a thing on a thingcalled Truesdale trivia.
Um, one of the most one of thequestions I asked was um, oh,

(06:32):
let's see eight, uh, bobAngelucci, chuck Rhodes and
eight others.
What is the answer to thatquestion?
It would be 10 drummersdrumming.
That was the trivia question.
So Bob Angelucci was thedrummer of the Magnificent Men.
He had to know that or else itdoesn't make any sense.
And Chuck Rhodes was a TVbroadcaster for TV 27,

(06:57):
weatherman, and he also was adrummer.
So if you knew Bob Angelucciand Chuck Rhodes were drummers,
you could figure out the answerto the question.
But that was always fun.
I was involved in the naming ofthe Pride of the Susquehanna, in
that I coordinated the media inthe area newspaper and radio to

(07:21):
submit a name from theiraudience to come up with a name
for the pending riverboat thatwas coming down the road or down
the river.
Um and uh, eventually we wentto the committee and at the
pride of the Susquehanna andthey came up with the name
private.
They had the like, the rambler,and they had all sorts of
different names that weresubmitted.

(07:42):
Yeah, but that was fun becauseit was, I felt, a little unusual
to get media to get coordinatedto do anything together,
because usually it's so highlycompetitive amongst each other.
Well, I don't want to dosomething that somebody else is
doing, I want to do it all bymyself.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah, exactly how the media goes, you know.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
I also produced and got involved with some of the
MDA stuff.
We did a show in Pembroke andthen it went out to Colonial
Park Mall and we did some showsthere with.
Rj.
Harris of WHP produced a localradio show on Sunday mornings

(08:27):
called the Harrisburg Hall ofFame, where I brought in talents
primarily of previous years.
I interviewed the MagnificentMen, the Eldantes and various
groups, the emperors who are nowmembers of the Central.
Pennsylvania Music Hall of Fame.
So I have all those tapes andI'm looking someday to be able
to transcribe them from reel toreel and get them in the format

(08:49):
that other people can listen tothem again.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
That'd be awesome uh, so you were kind of doing what
we're doing now just on radioback then.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, I guess you might say that that's awesome
yeah, yeah, um, as I mentioned,I worked in Lancaster and York
and Harrisburg on air and insales Uh, and of course I was
fortunate enough in those areasthat it was able to interview um
bands not only on air but alsoon stage.

(09:17):
Uh, I was invited to uh,welcome Muhammad Ali to
Lancaster, uh, for um, I thinkit was MDA cause that he was
brought into town to do.
That was fun, I mean.
I got all dressed up in a whitesuit and he showed up and he's
talking and he's looking at meand he walks over and grabs my

(09:40):
lapel and looks at me and and helooks at the audience and he
said, damn, I didn't know whiteboys could dress that good.
Then he did the routine of doyou want to see the fastest
punch in the world?
Cautiously, I said sure, andthen he said do you want to see

(10:01):
it again?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
That old one.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yeah, classic Muhammad Ali, was it again that
old one?
Yeah, classic Muhammad Ali, wasit a?
Little intimidating getting tomeet him and interview him.
It was.
It was a little nerve wracking,but a gentleman beyond belief,
Just a phenomenal human beingand again, maybe a person who
got a bad rap, just like we weretalking about earlier about

(10:25):
Pete Rose.
Uh, how you know, he gotslapped with all sorts of being
a bad boy because he gambled.
And then now look at where weare now with gambling, as
prominent as it is on anythingthese days anywhere you want,
sitting down and talking to uhuh uh, brenda Lee and the
Statler brothers when I was inNew Jersey, and Ronnie Millsap,

(10:48):
so all these guys.
I mean that's a full life whenyou get to meet and greet and
talk and be with people ofnational significance and it
becomes even more interestingwhen you find locals who have
done the same, who are either apart of or a background of some

(11:08):
of these famous people.
There's a book that I justfound out about a guy by the
name of Bill Huber.
You may want to write this down, folks.
He wrote a book about GeorgeWestinghouse.
George Westinghouse was the guywho came about creating the
technology necessary to createKDKA radio in Pittsburgh, and

(11:35):
one of the employees ofWestinghouse was a guy by the
name of Conrad and he came upwith all the different
technologies necessary for radioto be successful and to be a
commercial broadcast stationlike KDKA and it's a place

(12:09):
called Conrad was doing his workin that garage.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
That would be so cool yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
As a result of KDKA being a 50,000-watt
clear-channel monster.
One of the earliest DJs was aguy by the name of Reggie Cordy
and when he was on the air hehad a fictitious beer that he
would talk about called OldFrothing Slosh, and he'd talk

(12:37):
about this product like it was,like a real product, like he'd
give it like an ad readbasically yeah, it was like a
real thing.
I mean it was brewed fromhippity hops, nice rice and mad
mad malt and it's neurologicallyinspected, brewed at Upper
Credity on the Thames, byappointment to Sir Reginald V

(13:00):
and HM Reggie Cordick he's thedisc jockey so it was called
Pale Stale Ale.
He talked about it so much andactually his ratings were like
out of the roof.
He had like a.
85 percent of all radios wereturned to his radio show at one
time or another and he talkedabout it so much that eventually

(13:23):
there was a brewing company inPittsburgh that brewed old
frothing slosh beer.
And the trick of it was theywhen they brewed it they bottled
it so that the froth would beon top.
So it was on the bottom, so thefroth, the bottles were upside
down, so when you picked up thecase the froth would be on the

(13:45):
top.
So that's why it was oldfrothing slosh, because the
froth of the beer was on the topof it, because the can was
upside down.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
My God.
So they like put their workinto this one to make it
accurate.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Really, and it's a clear indication how radio uh
directly influenced commerce,especially in Pittsburgh, who
heaven knows they like to drinkout there, that's for sure.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
And we're doing the best we can to carry on that
tradition here.
And it was in 1955 that thatbeer came into place.
Do you know if anyone's likemaking it now or is that?
I don't think they are.
I don't think they are, butconsidering the bottles and cans

(14:27):
upside down in the case, sothat the froth would be on the
top.
So they have a historicalplaque acknowledging KDKA as the
first commercial broadcastingstation.
More information, take notes,are available at the Heinz

(14:48):
History Center.
And then locally there's a guyby the name of Tim Portsline who
wrote a book which isfascinating I was involved with
him for a period of time aboutPennsylvania broadcasting in
Harrisburg in particular, thatthe first radio station was WBAK
in Harrisburg.
That was the first radiostation ever in Harrisburg.

(15:10):
Yeah, in 1922.
Wow, it was owned by the statepolice by 1925, three more
stations were added by 1953,harrisburg had two television
stations, whp-tv and WTPA-TV.
Kbo, which is where I got mystart, was the top 40 leader in

(15:33):
the 70s and later on WFECstarted battling with them
actually maybe a little bitbefore that, but some of the
disc jockeys there acquiredphenomenal ratings On WFEC.
There was a guy by the name ofKurt Whitcomb who had the
highest-ranked show in theevening of any radio station in

(15:55):
the United States.
Kurt has passed, but, and youknow he did a heck of a job.
He also had many a disc jockeythat came from other stations in
the area that also worked atFEC.
He had Tony Montgomery.
It was interesting.
He started in Lancaster at WLAN.

(16:16):
He probably worked someplaceelse but he was at WLAN.
Then he came to WFEC and thenlater on became a record
executive for RCA.
That's a big deal.
Yeah, you have lots of people,uh, I mean in present day DJs.
You got DJ Puff um, who you know, open for Rihanna, and uh,

(16:37):
keisha and Lil Wayne, uh, andthen if you just kind of run
down names of broadcasters inthe area, a lot of these names
will bring fond memories andmaybe not so fond memories.
I know many will remember BruceBond who was a kingpin on WTPA.
Well, no Wink, but TPA Radiobecame WNNK and WNNK became a

(17:05):
rather significant leader inradio listening and they were
the stations to beat, and when Iwas with Oldies 94.9, we had
the glorious honor of knockingthem off their pedestal.
We were the number one stationfor at least one rating book,
maybe two, but what's key tothat is to note that there was a

(17:27):
talent that is still in thismarket and doing very, very well
, teamed up with a guy by thename of Todd Jeffers, nancy Ryan
.
And Todd Jeffers were themorning show of Oldies 94.9.
By that time I was into sales.
You had Bob Janis who worked atWFEC.

(17:50):
Bob Janis was a DJ who became aDJ.
He became a district justice inthis area.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
And you had Ed Lincoln at WSBA, who had been
there for years and years andyears, had done dozens and
dozens of record hops andfeatured lots of local bands at
the time.
Bob Janis' real name, by theway, is Bob Yannick.
They do that often.
I was never too smart to beable to change my own name.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
You didn't have an air name or anything.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
No, actually I did.
When I was in college I went byBilly Bash that's a cool name.
It's neither here nor there.
It's part of my middle name, sogot away with that.
And, as I mentioned, kurtWhitcomb, a guy by the name of
Lucky Pierre who went out to LAI believe it was and was a huge,
huge radio follower, I think atKCBQ.

(18:41):
When I went to school in Texasfor a brief period of time, I
ran into a guy named DaveCockrell.
May not be a too familiar name,but he went by Dave London at
KCBQ in San Diego and did a lotof national commercials for
Eskimo pie for example.

(19:02):
But I met him and it wasthrough him when I was going to
school in Texas.
You know, I didn't know whatthe heck I was going to do when
I grew up.
So, talking to him, he said youknow, truesdale, I think you
make a pretty good disc jockey.
I said, yeah, I guess that'sall I needed.
I just needed a little nudge inthat direction.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah and then hey.
Sometimes that's all it takes.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
And started there.
So I got out of Texas and thenwent up to Susquehanna
University to get a degree incommunications and theater Back
in 74, that's what they offered.
They didn't have a separatecurriculum at that time.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
So it was both.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
So you have, to like, take theater classes and stuff
like that.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, yeah yeah, I directed a few plays and that's
cool, you know, it was fun, gaveme the sense of stage presence
how?

Speaker 4 (19:51):
how am I doing?
Are you doing?

Speaker 3 (19:53):
great um so, uh, a lot of these djs did dances at
really notable and significantlocations.
Uh, probably the biggest dancesin Harrisburg proper was dances
at the Progress Fire Hall.
But you still had private clubslike the Middle Blue.

(20:14):
One of them was called theRaven.
The Raven actually featured alot of national artists.
A guy by the name of DickPhelan organized organized that.
And you can go ahead and readsome of the names off the back
of that If you want.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Curtis Mayfield, the impressions, Bailey store Anita
Humes, the Essex.
My eyes are terrible, Bananasomething.
Banana.
Banana.
I'm sorry, barbara, mason, eyesare terrible.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Banana something, uh, banana banana I'm sorry,
barbara, mason eyes are terribleuh ben e king curtis knight the
squires with curtis knight, ofcourse, was the predecessor of
jimmy hendrix's, where he gothis start oh my goodness um
gladys knight, the pipescannibal cannibal on the
Headowners.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Okay, yeah, it's cut off over there, so I can see it.
So that was quite a big name,yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
I mean, how do you get national acts to come to
Harrisburg?
You have a guy by the name ofDick Phelan who was smart enough
to realize you bring them in ona Wednesday and Thursday night
while they're traveling betweenPhiladelphia and New York as a
pickup gig.
So before they get to theHoward theater or they get to
uptown theater, they're stoppingin Harrisburg.

(21:32):
Billy Stewart was another guywho played there, often the
legends which who have beeninducted into the hall and the
mag men were the house bands.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Okay, I'm sorry the Raven, I forgot that at the
raven.
That's the place right, theraven where's the raven located?

Speaker 3 (21:47):
oh the raven was off of 441, um, kind of in back of
where witf okay is located, yep,um, but they had a.
It was like a castle and a drawbridge.
As a matter of fact, some ofthe pictures of the emperors
you'll see in a kind of a drawbridge setting.
They're set up around the frontof the raven, okay, okay, um.

(22:11):
And then there's the other djinfluences in pittsburgh, like
porky chedwick, uh, a man nearand dear to my heart because, as
I mentioned to you, I'm kind ofan, an inverted Oreo white guy
with black on the inside andwhite on the outside.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Just, I'm a soul merchant, I can't help it.
But Porky Chedwick and TerryLee and Mad Mike were playing
that stuff in Pittsburgh whilewe had Blavitt in Philadelphia.
And then you got High Lit, BobHorn, Dick Clark, Ed McMahon,
Harvey Holiday, High Lit JockoAll these jocks are legendary.

(22:50):
I would encourage people whoare listening to look up the
Philadelphia Pioneers broadcast,Pioneers page.
Okay, Because they acknowledgea lot of these phenomenal
talents that are in thePhiladelphia area.
Lot of these phenomenal talentsthat are in the Philadelphia
area.
From those experiences,especially the playing at the
Uptown Theater.
The Magmen played there.

(23:13):
You had Georgie Woods who didthe majority of the emceeing
there and he was with WDAS, butit was kind of right in the area
of where Temple University is,so you had a lot of the Temple
University students going there.
And also the Howard and theRoyal in Baltimore were also
venues that these bands wouldplay regularly.

(23:35):
And then you also had othervenues throughout the
Commonwealth that were reallyhot spots even back to the big
band era.
You had the Hershey StarlightBallroom, the Valencia Likens
Ballroom, where the JordanBrothers they've played up there
I think they're nominated thisyear to be part of the hall and

(23:58):
then you had people that playedwith bands that maybe didn't
stay in the area but kind ofwent out and did their own thing
you got denny bruce out ofleicester, who produced, uh,
fabulous slenderbirds, and leokottke and john hyatt uh, some
of the groups john hyatt.

(24:19):
Yeah, I didn't know that andthen you had John Orlowski, who
is he's written about 30different books on production
and he cut his chops withproducing groups including the
who, willie Nelson, neil Young,Iron Maiden, the Ramones,

(24:43):
chicago.
He produced them.
Yeah, he produced a lot oftheir stuff, wow, okay.
And from little old centralpennsylvania he was with a group
and I don't remember right offthe band that he was with and I
think it was kind of ashort-lived group.
Uh, as we do have them in somecentral central pennsylvania,

(25:04):
some of them do carry on andcarry on and carry on like
Pentagon.
Yeah, great guys.
And they are, of course,retiring this year and you are
encouraged to stop by and gettheir tickets.
I think their final shows aregoing to be at the West Shore
Theater.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yes, I think so as well, and they?

Speaker 3 (25:18):
may be doing a gig with Vicky's Angels, maybe.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
I'm not positive about that.
I can't remember totally myselfeither right now.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
And then you got Kearney Anderson, who was from
Harrisburg.
He was a John Harris graduateand he was significant in a lot
of the television productionwork as well as a leading
producer and a general managerof the majority of any
significant R&b station in theunited states started at das and

(25:49):
he went to houston and la andyou know wherever there was a
black audience to be found andneeded to be built.
Uh, he was there, that's and heended I think he ended his
career at wdas um and you knowhallates, because they went to
Temple.
I don't know if you were awareof this.
They played at the UptownTheater as well.

(26:12):
No way.
And they got their start.
They had a band before theywere Hall Oates.
If Phil Schwartz were here,he'd tell me who that band was.
It's a shame he couldn't behere.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I didn't know, they had a band before that though.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Well, and that's part of the fun that Phil is.
I mean, I learned that stufffrom him.
Yeah, it's like a history bookof music.
And when you find a record likethat, when you go to a flea
market and you find a recordlike that, it's like, wow, you
know, it's just, you know you'verediscovered a bit of history
that it's likely to getforgotten, yeah.
Uh as I mentioned, phil is, uh,a wonderful fellow and I

(26:50):
strongly encourage you to gethim here in this hot seat and uh
and talk to him and about someof the things he does.
Um W H Y Y did a documentary onthe uptown theater, which is
something that is worth lookingup, uh, in regard to the Chitlin
circuit and how that all kindof worked and how the white guys
, the mag men, went around onthe Chitlin circuit, which is

(27:12):
basically the black circuit andall the black theaters in the
United States.
Then you had groups, you know.
I mean some of them have beenalready recognized, but others
that probably ought to be.
You got Blitz Dinette, elvisDavis band, hybrid Ice, little
Duck and the Drakes out ofColumbia were a great 60s group.

(27:34):
They're still playing, I think,but not with the original
members.
Pentagon, as we mentioned,pixies, three who've been
inducted yep, they are.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Oh my gosh, we got to interview them.
That was so much fun.
We.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
I was really fortunate when we was in York we
kind of resurrected theircareer.
At least I like to think we diduh because we're an oldie
station then and they were outof Hanover and York's right down
the road, yeah, and uh, we hadseveral one uh, where they came
together and they, they didtheir stuff and that was that

(28:07):
would have been in the nineties,maybe early two thousands,
that's really cool.
Um, and then the Endels, theemperors, the furies, uh all
these groups uh, the legends, ofcourse, um, and even the Molly
McGuireres, which brings upanother little anecdote.
I was fortunate enough to havehooked up with Dan Hartman's

(28:31):
brother, dave, and in talking tohim we started talking about
and Larry Sadler, and forgive mefor not remembering all the
names right now.
Talk to them about doing abenefit concert.
I have a personal interest incystic fibrosis.

(28:51):
I had a sister who had cysticfibrosis, so we did a benefit
concert featuring the legendsand another group called the
Furies, and they're anothergroup that is maybe didn't get a
lot of national success, butthey were on a baltimore record
label and when you find theirmusic you should jump up and
down and get excited and listento it.
It's really really clean, finestuff.

(29:13):
All right, that's anotherreel-to-reel tape.
I want to get saved andresurrect the music of that
we're gonna get you a tech guythat particular concert.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Oh yeah, I'll please like get you on her, yeah and we
.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
We talked a little bit and mentioned the fact about
how taylor, taylor, swift gother start.
Um started out by walking intoa radio station in redding, weeu
and uh, the disc jockey's there.
I'm not positive about this,but I think I'm not positive.
I have to check, but a discjockey who's still on the air in

(29:45):
Carlisle may have worked thereat that time and may have been
the one who encouraged her a lotRay Thomas, oh, that name
sounds really familiar and he'sinvolved in WHYY HYL and that
was also spawned.
Another disc jockey by the nameof Ben Barber, who was

(30:07):
significant in regard to thepromoting of bands and over the
other radio stations.
You had Paul Landersman.
He was a managed disc jockey,was the manager of the Quintones
who have been inducted.
He also managed my partner,kenny Chandler, for a while.
He had a record label called PL.
If you see that record, be sureto pick it up and jump up and

(30:28):
down and get excited.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
All right.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Uh, also some lesser known groups.
That uh records your Sosa.
But um, you know, uh, boy, whenyou talk about groups, you had
the Royal Lancers uh out ofMiddletown, the, the um
intentions out of the same area,Um, and then you get a little
bit more up to date.
Uh, got to check my notes.

(30:51):
Here you have, um, it's on theflip of this, Um, oh, the
Susquehanna river band, theMiddleton brothers, which I
think were mentioned by, uh, ourman's uh, Mr Frange Yep, which
I think were mentioned by ourman, Mr Frange Yep, Legendary
group out of Lancaster, theCrystal Airs, got their start at

(31:13):
WLAN because back then they hadstudios where you went in and
you sang a song and you went onyour way.
So one of those recordings wasput out on a record by Stan, the
record man, at Stan's RecordBar in downtown Lancaster and he
pushed it.
Uh, he also managed a group ofthe sixties called the Del
Castro sisters.
Um, so when you start lookingat the nooks and crannies you'll

(31:37):
find all sorts of ofinteresting uh information.
As I mentioned, Stephen Foster,Camptown Races five miles long,
do-da, do-da.
We did talk about that, Do youwant to?

Speaker 2 (31:52):
interject.
Yeah so funny side story formyself when I was a kid, I was
obsessed with that song, do-da.
My mom used to sing it to meall the time and I'd always ask
her to sing it again.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Well, still to this day my to me all the time and
I'd always ask her to sing itagain.
And well, still to this day mymom calls me duda sometimes.
That was my nickname for a verylong time as a child.
And once you start lookingaround, uh in in canton,
pennsylvania, uh, back in thelate 1800s it was one of the
central staging areas for thecircus, so circus music can be

(32:25):
claimed uh in Pennsylvania aswell.
Um, you know, barnum and Baileywasn't the only circus in town,
so, uh, that's one of theclaims to fame to Canton, uh,
pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
It's crazy, this, this, uh, yeah, I just kind of
almost had this, uh, almost likeepiphany, Like we ask almost
every episode it's you know, Igot to find a better way to ask
it we ask, like everyone, whatmakes the music of central
Pennsylvania so special, atleast the music community.
What's different, what are wedoing different here?
Because we have somethingspecial here.
I think you would agree, and Ithink you're.
We've never, you know, we'vegotten everybody's answers, but

(33:00):
we don't know what is the answerRight, and I think you're kind
of giving us a new aspect, a newoutlook to that question.
It's the history.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah, there's so many spokes of the wheel.
Yeah, there's the the, there'sthe venues, there's the talent
there's the disc jockeys.
Um, there's the dances that wereheld by the disc jockeys.
It's the bands that werepromoted by the disc jockeys.
It was the bands themselves.
They were talented enough toget a gig in Philadelphia and

(33:29):
get some national exposure, likeHall Oates, exactly.
I mean, there was a guy by thename of Pancho Villa at a record
label called PV.
Phil has documented that labelreally, really well, and the
groups that came out ofLancaster in particular on that
label were phenomenal.
Many of them are huge with thecall Northern soul hits.

(33:53):
Um, in Harrisburg you had thesoulville all-stars, who had a
song that did very, very well,uh, and is now still being
played in the Northern souldances.
Um, the Trinnells had, um, asong that does very, very well.
Don Hodgkin, uh, who sang withthe emperors, uh, has just

(34:15):
re-released a song, uh, that isnow doing very, very well in the
Northern soul and that reallyis credit to Phil and Phil's
connection with Don and gettinghim back in the studio and
singing with the ambassadorsagain yeah.
Um, and the list goes on and on, and that history leads to
other musicians, um, theambassadors played with, uh, dan

(34:41):
Hartman.
And Dan Hartman, of course, isvery much Central Pennsylvania.
West.
Shore the legends.
Of course, a Rock Hall member,don Hodgkins, played in that
same era and he played with thelegends.
So if you want to get yourYouTube going, just check out
Northern Soul and the number ofartists that are actually from

(35:03):
Central Pennsylvania.
I'm sure it's astonishing, itis.
It is, oh my goodness ofartists that are actually from
central pennsylvania.
I'm sure it's astonishing it is.
It is and it's a continuallycontinual education.
I can only imagine.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
And well, and this entire thing has been insanely
educating.
I've learned a large, largeamount from you here tonight.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Oh my goodness there you are there's more you're a
history book?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
I'm sure there is and we could probably talk about it
all night long, huh could,could be, could be.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Well, I don't want to end anything abruptly here, but
I did want to just check withyou see if there's anything that
you were promoting or anythinglike that that you want to shout
out before we wrap up here.
We are running out of time herea little bit.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
No, I'd say it's just .
I think very important forpeople to realize the rich
history there is in centralPennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Brandon Valentine should be given a gold star at
least, if not more, for hisefforts and energy in regard to
creating what is the CentralPennsylvania Music Hall of Fame.
It is the foundation from whichthe Pennsylvania Museum of
Music and Broadcast History cangrow from, yes, which I feel

(36:12):
like I'm the birthing father ofthat idea of taking it across
Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
But Brandon's work is the foundation from which that
can happen.
Yes, so we can get into thenooks and crannies of all the
talents that are in Pennsylvania.
Al Shade, of course, who washonored for his lifetime
achievement at the lastbroadcast, and I mean there was
a song that he wrote.
He says I'm a star on WLBR atthis station in Lebanon.

(36:40):
So there's another broadcasttalent reference connection, uh,
that can be made.
And then you got John Coltraneand Marian Anderson and Carl
Tinley.
I didn't even get into thegospel stuff.
He's considered the Americangospel music authority.
And then Rosetta Tharp, uh, whois honored, uh, at the rock and

(37:01):
roll hall of fame by Bonnierate.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
And has influenced dozens and dozens and dozens of
performers, from Eric Clapton toBruce Springsteen.
So if you want a little bitmore tidbit information, you can
check out my friend, don Rooney, who did a podcast called
Musical Inner Tube.
Seems wrong but it's right.

(37:24):
He meant to say interlude, butit came out inner tube and it
stuck.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
That is, I think, a fascinating program and he gets
into a lot of nooks and cranniesand a lot of musical history.
Okay, that's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah, cool, bill.
Once again, man, thank you somuch for your time tonight.
It has been an absolute honorto have you here and thank you
for going through your knowledgewith us and showing us all the
history of Pennsylvania, noteven close.
We've got to have you back onto cover some more, that's for
certain.
Next time we'll do it withmusic.
I'm down with that.
We'll do a long form thing orsomething like that.

(37:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll name theartist, their stuff and I would
love that, because youcertainly named a few people out
there where I'm like man, Ilike you, can't put a name to a
face.
You know it's like I know, Iknow, I know that name, can't
think of the song, couldn't evenguess but, yeah, you definitely
touched a lot on that there.
but yeah, like I said, man,thanks again so much for coming
on the show.

(38:19):
We really appreciate you.
Well, thank you, spend theevening with us.
Thank you for having me.
Of course, we'll see you around.
Okay, alrighty, that was agreat conversation with Bill.
Got to learn all about thehistory of central Pennsylvania
from all different sides of themusic industry.
Coming up next, we have NateMyers.
Now we're here with Nate Myers.
You might also know him fromNate Myers and the Aces Been
performing music for about 21years now.

(38:41):
Nate, thank you so much forcoming out and being on the show
tonight.
Thanks for having me, man.
I appreciate it, of course, ofcourse, being on the show
tonight.
Thanks for having me, man.
I appreciate it, of course, ofcourse.
So let's start at the beginning.
Man, you've been playing music21 years now.
I'm sure it goes back a littlebit before then.
Even when did this all begin?

Speaker 5 (38:52):
So yeah, me playing under my own name started about
the last 21 years, but I gotinto it way before my dad turned
40 back in.
I don't even know, I don't know.
I was 92.
I think it was 92.
And he just happened.
He was throwing, he threw aparty and this, this Delta blues
guitar player, showed up that Ihad never met and I don't know
if he had ever met him and hewas like playing solo Robert

(39:15):
Johnson stuff and old, vintage,muddy waters and, um, just
really cool stuff.
So the party was over.
Weeks later I'm downtown doinglaundry and I just happened to
run into this dude and he saidwhy don't you come back to my
place?
I'm downtown doing laundry.
And I just happened to run intothis dude and he said why don't
you come back to my place andI'll play some records for you?
I'd never seen anything likethat.
It blew my mind.
I'd never heard Delta Bluesbefore, never heard any of that
stuff.
So he brought me back to hisspot and he said well, look, I

(39:37):
got this old harmonica.
I said, well, I really wanted toplay the guitar but I didn't
have any money I school.
So he laid this old harp on meand that was the beginning of it
, and I would go to his houseand he would play robert johnson
stuff and he nailed it likelick for lick, like the record,
amazing, and then I'd play harpbehind it and we'd listen to
records all the time back andforth and I started it was

(39:58):
really like an apprenticeship,you know, he would drink and I
would hang out and we would justplay music, and so that's how I
got into all that whole, thiswhole thing.
Man, that's awesome.
Yeah, it's really, it's oldschool, it's like it doesn't
happen anymore.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
No, no, you don't get stories like that anymore.
Yeah, Like man, that's cool.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
So you started out playing the harmonica before the
guitar then Yep, yeah, theguitar thing I noodled with,
like mostly around COVID it.
So I've I've been working on itand I'm terrible at it, but I'm
trying to develop a new skillset.
So, like, it's helped us out alittle bit and it's been really
embarrassing because I'm like ohman, I thought this was a lot
easier than it turned out to be.

(40:35):
I've had to eat humble pie onit all the time, so I'm like,
but I keep working on it.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
So yeah, yeah, that's really cool, though.
Um, I mean, yeah, that's kindof how it goes with every
instrument, everything,everything always looks easier
too.
I mean, I've played music onand off my entire life and I'm
always just like, oh yeah, it'sjust like riding a bike, I'll
pick up the guitar and I'll goright back to shredding.
It does not happen like that,man.
No.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
No, man, I've had to apologize, man.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
I'm like, oh that man .
I mean even back to theharmonica.
Even I've tried picking it upbefore.
When I was a kid my dad playedthe harmonica and we would go to
church on Sundays and he hadthis single cab stick shift Ford
Ranger right.
I'd ride with him and mybrothers and sisters would ride
with my mom in the minivan rightand we'd be driving back from

(41:24):
church and he'd be like, allright, you shift, I'm going
gonna play the harmonica.
So he'd be steering with hisknee playing the harmonica with
both hands and I'm shifting thetruck for him.
That's a core memory for me.
I love it, you know, but I'vealways wanted to learn the
harmonica and I just I can't getit down.
I tried to get my dad to teachme, did not go well but you try.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
That's the thing.
Hey, man, exactly, there'sstill more time for me to try to
.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
You're young man.
Yeah, exactly, I got time, youknow.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
So let's talk a little bit more about your music
, though.
So you're kind of bluesy.
Solely, you know, got this neworleans vibe to you a little bit
kind of uh, where did you getthat passion from?
What made you start playingthat kind of music?

Speaker 5 (42:00):
so what had happened?
What had happened?
So, when I first started comingup, like we were literally
listening to nothing but 1920s,1930s, delta style blues, so
Muddy and Charlie Patton and,and you know, josh, josh White,
who's not really there, but welisten to John Hurt and all

(42:23):
kinds of like vintage stuff, andthat always struck me as real
music, the realist of real music, and I I'm embarrassed to say
this I was a snob.
So I, I, I was into it andthat's all I was into for years
and years and years and years.
And so in 2000, I moved down toHarrisburg to I kind of got
recruited by this man calledKrypton City Blues Review.
They're a harmonica player,they, they parted ways or

(42:44):
whatever.
Okay, and they said, would youcome down?
And I, I quit my job, I, youknow, moved out of my apartment
and I moved down here cold, likeI didn't have a job.
I didn't, you know, I ended upfinding an apartment.
I found a job and I came hereto play music.
So that's what I came to do.
And we got into like the 1950s,like electric muddy waters and

(43:05):
howlin wolf and all that stuff,and I was deep, deep into that.
And then, um, that's all,that's all I wanted to play then
, and then you guys were doingcovers of that.
Yeah, and the band was like I'mnot, I'm a little biased on it,
but like the band was one of thebest for that stuff.
Like they, the the front man,mitch Ivanoff he sounded like
muddy he, he.
His slide plan was righteous.

(43:26):
Everybody in that unit at thattime was in it and we all
listened to it and we all lovedit.
And so in 2004, I think it was2004, we got invited down to
Clarksdale to record with one oftheir guitar players down that
way and we made a record withBig Jack Johnson down there and
when I came home it kind offlipped our head I know if Pete
was on screen He'd say the samething.

(43:47):
Like it flipped our headsaround because there's a lot of
stuff going on down there andone of the things that he told
us was that everybody in theDelta listened to the grand old
Opry.
So now we got this country thingand we're sort of like I'm
stewing on it and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm seeing

(44:14):
how this works.
So now I'm getting into country.
You know, I'm getting into likeother rootsy styles and and and
I know, yeah, and and I, I, myopinion, it's just my opinion,
it's the, it's all like a.
It's a wheel with a hub andthat hub is is country and it's
in its blues and it's, you know,it's roots music and then we
got rock and roll and all theseother things that come off it.
But to me I would even say rapmusic is in there too.
Man, yeah, I agree, I think thestories are solid.
I'm an old school rap guy sothat finds its way into stuff.

(44:38):
But like, I think all that stuffrelates, and I, you know, when
we say, well, it's this or it'sthat, you know you listen to,
you listen, you know you listento.
Uh, you listen to some of theseblues guys and they're playing
country style stuff.
Or you listen to some of theseold rock guys and they're
playing at all country and bluesand they're putting their own
spin on it and I that's.
So I'm coming backwards, I'mcoming from the Delta stuff into
, like playing some Zeppelinstyle stuff and some Rolling

(45:01):
Stones style stuff and thengetting into the hip hop thing.
So I've kind of come backwards.
I should have started out hereand gone in, but I started in
there and came out.
So you know, that's just theway it is, man.
Hey, man, seems like it'sworking for you.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Yeah, man, I mean we, you know we're paying the bills
, so mostly that's all thatmatters.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
All right, keep the lights on and, you know, keep
the music going yes that's goodman, man, that's that's awesome.
It's cool how you use thatanalogy about the wheel.
With it too, with the blues andthe rock, Would you say jazz
even a little bit.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
I say it's all in there, yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, that's cool, and even you made your comment
about rap.
Honestly, like you said,telling stories like rap has
some great balance to it.
Even People don't look at itthat way, but as a musician know
people outside of the musicindustry.
Don't look at it that way.
But as a musician, you're likewow, man, they can write some
great stories in there too.

(45:54):
They sure can, which is amazing.
So, uh, now you've been, youknow, playing around for a while
, got a new ep in the works.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
You were saying, yeah , yeah we're doing like a little
blue, we're doing like athrowback blues record.
Man, I, just we, we weretalking about it and I said you
know, let's, let's, let's, let'ssee if we can do a blues record
something to solve duringfestival season.
And so hopefully we got fourtunes in the can.
Right now they're mostly allthere.
We just got to do a couple oflittle touch up things and then
they'll be ready to rock androll.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
So Rome wasn't built in a day, that's right.
So how long were you with thatband then?
And then you, I, down toHarrisburg.

Speaker 5 (46:23):
Yeah, it was about four.
It was about four years and andyou know, I kind of I was
writing more original stuff andand at that time I was it was a
risk man I was.
I was afraid I would never playagain and I mean it was a real.
I had a lot of anxiety about itand I thought I hope this thing
works and, you know, by God'sgrace, and only by God's grace,
and the dedication of the guysinvolved.
You know, we were playing, weplayed a lot and we've, you know

(46:45):
, but I've been able toestablish my own name.
So that's a that's a blessingman, you know.
Of course, of course.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
What was it like going out on your own?

Speaker 5 (46:52):
I mean, I'm sure it was a little intimidating yeah,
it was scary because I was goingfrom a product where everybody
loved it and and rightfully so.
It was a good, good product,rocking product to my own thing,
which was kind of like anunknown quantity.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
You know what I mean.
Yeah, you're going to a crowdthat you're going from
performing to a crowd that knowswhat they're going to hear.
Now you're performing from acrowd that they don't know what
they're going to hear.
Yeah, they have thatuncertainty, yeah, which is I
mean?
I see what you mean now, butyou kind of did it backwards.

Speaker 5 (47:30):
You know, you had to kind of cut your teeth second,
almost you know, yeah, man, andI tell you what I mean.
I'm not embarrassed to say this.
I went through some depressionover it, some anxiety.
I was scared man, I was superscared and, um, my, my ex-wife
at the time we were stillmarried it it it kind of made
her crazy.
Not that I was doing anythingcrazy, but it was really like
this is risky for me.
I want to play music.
We all want to be a success,right?
Like no matter what anymusician who says they don't
want to be a success is, they'reprobably lying about it.

(47:51):
You know, we need it, we needthat, we need that.
You know that rub from peopleNobody wants to just play in
their well, I don't know, maybe,but nobody wants to play in
their basement.
They need that applause, theyneed that approval.
Like I'm not saying that's right, but we need it, you know, like
that's why you do what you do,man kind of sort of yeah, you

(48:13):
want that.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
You know you want to be told that you're good at what
you're doing.
That's why you practice, that'swhy you work at it.
You know it's like take it,take it to sports.
You know athletes.
You know nobody you know goesdoes football practice every day
and doesn't try to get in the,get into college and play for
college or the nfl, like eventhe high school team.
You know it's.
You're working towards a goal.
Yep, you want that recognition.
You, you work for, you earn ityeah, and art's funny because

(48:33):
it's subjective.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
You know, like what you like, I may not like.
You know if we, if you lookedat my record collection, I look
at your record collection, I'dsay, well, you know I'm not into
this.
And you may say, what is thisweird stuff he's listening to?
I I'm not into that either, butlike, everybody's got their,
you know I'm learning thateverybody's got their niche.
So no matter what you're into,there's going to be somebody who
likes it, if they can hear it.
So, but it's a scary.

(48:54):
It's a scary thing, man, youcan't like.
It's not like eating ahamburger.
You know, you use all this thebest hamburger ever had.
Like everybody listens to whatrecord?
And 10 of us may say this isthe greatest thing I ever heard.
And some of us may say, youknow, I don't ever want to hear
that again.
So it's, it's just kind ofmushy.
The arts are kind of mushy thatway they are and it's evolving
right now too.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
I think a kind of a cool thing, a neat thing that's
going on right now in the artsis that even with musical years
and I could look at yourcollection, you can look at my
collection go, I don't like this, we don't like that but a lot
of people right now are at leaststarting to realize talent.
There are a lot of bands outthere that are big name national
acts.
That man, I could never heartheir music again and be totally
happy.
But I don't think that they'rea terrible band.

(49:33):
They're extremely talentedartists, way more talented than
I will ever be.
But hey, it's okay.
I mean, some people just don'tlike everything, and that's all
right, that's right.
I think right now there's a lotof people, like I said, how I
just explained, that you know,hey, yeah, maybe I don't like
that band, but they're stillextremely talented artists and
if you're my friend, I'm comingout to support you.
That's right.
No-transcript Sealand's Grove,down to Harrisburg, playing

(49:59):
music.

Speaker 5 (49:59):
Man.
I'll say this I was like thecountry mouse man.
I got down here and I thought Iwas sitting on City Island one
time and I was looking across tothe Harrisburg side and I was
feeling kind of funky.
When I first moved here Ithought I'm not going to make it
here and I thought a lot aboutmoving home.
Not that Harrisburg is like themost giant city, but I wasn't

(50:23):
used to it man.
I wasn't used to the hustle andbustle and different kind of
women down here.
Good kind of women, my kind ofwomen, but like I wasn't used to
all that.
So I thought about going homeand you know, my first
girlfriend was really good andshe kind of showed me around the
city and I got used to drivingin the city and once I
discovered all the greateateries around here, like I was
like dude, this is my spot now,you know, but it took me a

(50:45):
couple years to get there, youknow so because I just wasn't
used to it and you know, and Iwas about dude, I'm backwards
man, I'm a lot backwards so, butI've learned a lot.
I mean, I've been here 20, what24 years now.
So I think I got a handle on itmostly.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
But yeah, yeah, man, it's a good area.
Man mean, I understand that Igrew up in the country in the
middle of nowhere, and notsaying Seals Grove is, but
moving up to Harrisburg it waslife changing for me.
You know it's a littleintimidating at first, but
you're right, there's a lot ofdifferent good stuff to it, man.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
There's a whole lot, a lot of art man got a lot of
cool history around Harrisburgand it's, it's.
And we're close to Philly andwe're close to, you know,
baltimore and we're close to NewYork city and so you know, in
York and Lancaster great we'vegot a lot of great spots to get
to from here.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
So yeah, speaking of great spots, what are some of
your favorite places that youplayed at over the years?

Speaker 5 (52:02):
no-transcript.
More regional type of stuff andthat stuff's always been fun,
but it's the.
It's the mom and pop gigs Ilike the best.
You know where we can talk topeople and in a listening room
situation and get a little rowdyand maybe have a little drinky
poo or whatever you know, it'sall it's a lot of fun, man, you
know interact, you know, havethat intimacy with the crowd.

(52:23):
Yeah, I like it.
I'm a talker, so I could talkall night.
Hey man, me too.
That's why we're both hereright now.
That's right, man.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
That's awesome.
Now, we, I gotta, we gottamention this.

Speaker 5 (52:38):
Cause we talked about it off air.
That's all I wanted to do whenI was in high school.
That's when Vision Streetwearfirst started coming out and all
that stuff came out, and Gatorand Gons and Rodney Mullen and
all those dudes, and that'sreally what I wanted to do and
unfortunately, as I told you, Ididn't have a knack for it.
Man, I did some street skating.
I and I could ollie grade andyou know kick flips and all this

(53:06):
stuff, and we spent a lot.
My brothers and I spent a lotof time skating.
We had a vert ramp at our houseand I loved it, man.
And then it dawned on me I'mlike this ain't going to happen,
but I still had a lot of fun.
I used to come down here.
We would skip school sometimesand come down to go to Fantastic
in Mechanicsburg.
Man, we, yeah, it's big.
The skate culture is a big partof our, big part of my life.
Man, still still to my.
My brother gave me a.
What did he give me for mybirthday?

(53:26):
He gave me a Steve Cavallarodeck for my birthday.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
So yeah, I just turned 53 weeks ago.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
So I still, I'm still into it, man.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
That's awesome.

Speaker 5 (53:33):
You ever get on the board once in a while now, yeah,
I bought one like two years ago, last year, and I got out a
little bit and I thought, dude,I'm going to bust my head.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
I can't do anything anymore, but it was still fun.
Man Dude, I know it's scary.
Last time I got on one wasprobably about two years ago.
Myself, I was like pfft.
Actually that's like an actualskateboard.
Have you tried longboarding?

Speaker 5 (53:51):
I haven't, but it looks intriguing.
Man, I kind of like the.
I see they got these motorizedlongboards be kind of
fundamental.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
I don't know it's like I mean, obviously there's a
uh, you know, uh kind of like arivalry between the like the
street borders and the longborders and stuff like that, but
like it's it's almost more likesnowboarding, where you're
carving and stuff like that yeahwhich is fun and then you have
the crazy people like coletrotta that like do like the
drifting stuff, yeah, going like40 miles an hour bombing it, it
down, like switchbacks, amazing.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
Amazing right.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:24):
Nerves of steel with that.
That's not me.
I'm timid man.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
I am the same way.
Has the skateboarding life hadany influence on your music at
all, though?

Speaker 5 (54:36):
You know, it's one of the things that I kind of we
used to listen to, like theDescendants and Sex Pistols and
you know, um, misfits and allthat jazz when we would skate,
so like to me, coming backwardsto it, it hasn't had a ton of it
hasn't had a ton of influence.
What's really influenced memore has been the art of it all,
like the skateboard art andstickers everywhere I put it.

(54:58):
I put them everywhere, man, I,you know, like I love them, um,
and just that culture of likejust doing your thing.
That's why I finally it.
I put them everywhere, man, I,you know, like I love them, um,
and just that culture of likejust doing your thing.
That's why I find, you know, Iused to.
For a long time I tried to besomebody else.
I wanted to be little Walter, Iwanted to be these other
harmonica players that I enjoyedand we talked, pete, and I
talked and, uh, he said, whydon't you just try being
yourself?
And I've had a lot more peacein my life since then.

(55:20):
You know, I'm never going to bethem dudes, like, I'm the only
one of me that's going to behere and they're the only one of
them that's going to be here.
So I've had a lot more peacewhen I just do what I do, some
people like what I do, somepeople don't like it.
I wish everybody liked it, butyou know at least I know I'm
doing what I do.
So really want to know, man.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
You'll got to tell us , probably six years ago.

Speaker 5 (55:38):
Hey man, you know, like probably six or seven years
ago, and I should have known itbefore then, but I wanted to be
somebody else for a long timeand I still have to catch myself
sometimes.
Like you know, this is notStevie Ray Vaughan, this is
Neymar.
So I got to.
You know, I know who I am nowmostly, and I'm working it out

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still.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
No, that's awesome.
As you said, it brings you moreat peace.
Yeah, and that's important.
I mean there can't be twoStevie Ray Vaughans, there's
only one.

Speaker 5 (56:08):
There's only one.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Stevie Ray Vaughan and you know, does it kind of
make you feel like you havesomething more to work towards?
Does that kind of give yourselfof a counterpart to them than a
peer?

Speaker 5 (56:21):
Yeah, I think I try to take whatever I can grab from
them and I put what I can intomy music and then I just kind of
try to do what I do.
And it's a weird, you can tellthat those guys influence me and
those gals influence me, but Ijust do what I do, so it's not,

(56:41):
it really doesn't matter.
Stevie Ray came and he wasamazing.
And Hendrix came and like I,you know, I just do what I do,
so like it's not, it reallydoesn't matter.
You know, stevie Ray came andhe was amazing, and Hendrix came
and he was amazing, and JoePass came and he was amazing,
and whoever.
Rosetta Tharpe came and she wasamazing, like and I just do
what I do and you know, I'm, I'm, I'm getting to be at peace
with that.
Would I like to have some bigsuccessvette someday.
Man, if it doesn't happen, itdoesn't happen.
I get to eat a lot of good foodand meet nice people and we

(57:06):
play our music and that's cool.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
That's what it's all about, man.
I'm sure you're on the path togreat success.
Man, it sounds like you'retuning in to yourself, and
that's phenomenal.
You're just working so hard atit.
Got new music coming out.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
We get to play some nice shows.
Man, we played, you know, didsome stuff with martini brothers
recently, which was cool, anddid some stuff with a very fine
gentleman, which is cool.
And you know we're going to bedoing, um, this tribute show,
this uh, last waltz tribute showthe night before thanksgiving.
So we're involved in that with,you know, a mighty river band
and a bunch of other guys.
We're going to be that.
So it's nice to be part of thiscommunity, because I came in as

(57:44):
an outsider and I didn't reallyfit in too good at first, but
now I feel like I'm getting somegood friends and having some
real nice opportunities.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
So I'd say you're one of us.
Now, man, I mean come on.
I'm down, dude.
That's awesome man.
Well, dude, thank you so muchfor coming on the show.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
Thank you for having me.
I appreciate it, man.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Yeah, man, is there anything else?
Maybe we're not covering thatwe want to meet.

Speaker 5 (58:04):
Uh, I just I think it's important to support the
arts man, whatever they are.
If you're into painting andwhatever, support the arts man
and make sure or any of theother fine artists you bring on
here.
It's good to get people out,you know.
So that's really all I got tosay, man.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
I think you hit it right on the head there, though,
so that's phenomenal.
All right, dude, thank you somuch again.
It was great having you here,thank you Keep up the good work,
y'all.
Thank you so much and staytuned for a live performance.

Speaker 4 (58:40):
This little blues we wrote, called for me One, two,
three, four.
Right thing for me Baby, baby,baby.

(59:03):
I used to doubt it, but Ithought about it.
Girl, ain't nobody, nobody,nobody, quite like you.
I said loving you is the rightthing for me.
The last woman I loved almostdrove me right out of my mind.

(59:23):
Yes, she did.
The last woman I loved almostdrove me right out of my mind.
But, baby, baby, baby, all myfriends said you better watch
your step Because you just gotyourself out of a terrible mess.
But I know that loving you isthe right thing for me.

(59:46):
Well, the first time I met youbaby was in some down-home old
country bar.
Yes, it was.
Well, the first time I met youbaby was in some down-home old
country bar.
Oh, baby, baby, baby.
I must say I knew right awaythat you'd be my one and only my

(01:00:10):
one, and only someday.
But I know that loving you isthe right thing for me.
Yeah, yeah, I say loving you isthe right thing for me.
Yes, it is.
I said loving you is the rightthing for me.

(01:00:33):
Oh, baby, baby, baby.
I used to doubt it, but Ithought about it.
Girl, there ain't nobody,nobody, nobody, nobody, quite
like you.
I said loving you is the rightthing for me.

(01:01:21):
Guitar solo.
I said loving you is the rightthing for me.
Yes, it is.
I said loving you is the rightthing for me.
Baby, baby, baby.
I used to doubt it, but Ithought about it, cause ain't

(01:01:41):
nobody, nobody, nobody, baby.
I used to doubt it, but Ithought about it.
Girl, there ain't nobody,nobody, nobody, nobody quite
like you.
I said loving you is the rightthing for me.
Yeah, yeah.
I said loving you is the rightthing for me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
It was great getting to know Nate a little bit better
.
Also, that live performance wasout of this world Everyone,
thank you so much for tuning in.
Huge shout out to Bill and Natefor joining us this evening and
we'll see you next time.