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Gloria Horn Tice:
Educator of Note Award Winner - From the Central Pennsylvania Music Hall of Fame
Gloria is a retired music teacher from Lebanon, PA. where she taught General Music at both Lebanon Catholic School as well as Lebanon School District. She is a graduate of West Chester University where she received her B.S. degree in Music Education; University of Turabo in Puerto Rico and Penn State University where she earned her M.S. degree in Teaching English as a second language; and Walden University where she earned her M. Ed. degree in Elementary Reading and Literacy. She was inducted into the Lebanon County Musicians Hall of Fame in 2014, and is a member of the Lebanon County Educators Honor Society. Among many, many more accomplishments in both music education and performance. For a more comprehensive bio, please click the link below:
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RUINESS:
A new Female-Fronted Original Hard Rock Band, RUINESS started as a tribute project and morphed from performing set from Paramore and Flyleaf to writing their own original music. Consisting of 4 accomplished local musicians; Ariana (Vocals), Greg (Guitar), Greg (Bass), and Dylan (Drums), RUINESS brings the flare and style of other female-fronted Rock Bands along with their own unique and heavy sound. Ariana has described their sound as "Paramore but PISSED". You can listen to their released singles on all streaming platforms, and keep up with their upcoming music releases and live shows on their website below.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Central Pennsylvania Music
Podcast Tonight GloriaHorne-Tice and Ruinous.
This episode is sponsored byMembers, First and now your
hosts, Daniel Kime and AlanMcCutcheon.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hello and welcome to the Central Pennsylvania Music
Podcast.
I'm your host, Daniel, Comingup.
We have Gloria Horntice andRuaness Sitting here with Gloria
Horntice.
Gloria, you are on the board ofdirectors for the Central
Pennsylvania Music Hall of Fame.
Thank you, first of all, somuch for coming on the show
tonight.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Oh, you're welcome.
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Of course, of course.
So, as always, I'd like to kindof start at the beginning.
You have an extensivebackground in music, which is
why you're here, so where didyou get your?

Speaker 3 (00:59):
whole start in music.
Well, I was actually surroundedby it.
My one aunt was an opera singer.
She sang on Carnegie Hall.
I have another aunt who was aconcert pianist.
So my dad would drive us toPhiladelphia to the Academy of
Music a lot of times where myaunt was performing and we would

(01:21):
watch her perform.
She was also a music teacher.
She was a choir director and wewould go to Philadelphia to
watch her and her choir perform.
Wow, she has sung for the Pope,she has sung for Bishop Sheen.
You'd only recognize that nameif you were as old as I am.

(01:43):
But yeah, I've always beensurrounded by music.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Okay, so you got most of your inspiration from your
aunt there.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Oh, most definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
That's awesome.
Well, it sounds like she wasvery accomplished and a great
place to draw inspiration from.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
She really was.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
That's amazing.
So when did you start gettinginto music yourself yourself?

Speaker 3 (02:02):
So we went to church every Sunday and my church had a
fabulous organist, helen Kato's, and I grew up thinking I was
going to play the organ likeHelen in our church.
They tore our church down and Ijust thought, oh no, I can't be

(02:23):
an organist anymore.
But I started going to, when Iwent to school, my fourth grade
teacher I actually went to aCatholic grade school.
In fourth grade she took meover to the convent after school
and she would teach me pianolessons.
And in sixth grade she said youknow how would you like to play
one song on the organ at church?

(02:45):
And I was hooked, because notonly do you play with your hands
, you play with your feet tooand I just thought that was the
coolest thing ever.
But I eventually ended up goingto college and just being a
piano major.
Never thought I was going to bean organist.
I kind of put that to the side.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
And you went to school at westchester right I
went to westchester.
Okay, go rams, go rams lovethat and then so from there then
eventually became a teacher inlebanon excuse me, lebanon
school districts, correct?

Speaker 3 (03:17):
that's correct.
I graduated, well, I'll say theyear uh, 1982, in may of 1982
and uh, in fall of 82.
I had a teaching job.
I was a substitute teacher foreighth grade music and, oh boy,
that was middle school.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
They don't really start you off in the trenches
there, aren't they really reallydid I thought, college taught
me not a damn thing I wasn'tready for eighth graders.
Oh my goodness, I can onlyimagine especially that much
just ADD going on right there,Just like no focus.
We're going to, we're going tolearn how to do this.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
But it was cool because what I learned is you
have to get them where they are.
So when I taught a music, aprogram on strings music and, by
the way, the teacher whoseplace I took for that year left
me not one lesson plan, left menot anything I was like, oh my
God, I'm going to make up my ownprogram.
But to teach form in music, Iended up teaching Toto, because

(04:14):
Toto was love, isn't always ontime.
I started teaching form by that.
When I taught strings, Ibrought out the Charlie Daniels
band and just listened to thedifference between violin and
fiddling, just to get studentsto connect to where they are.

(04:37):
Because for me to talk aboutGlenn Miller and jazz music they
don't care about Glenn Miller,they don't care about that but I
brought in names of groups thatI knew that they would know.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
That were popular and would really kind of grasp
their attention.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
It's funny because I've been teaching a long time
and so I'll see former studentswho I've had back then and
they'll say every time I see you, I think of that song, Toto.
It's just so funny.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Oh my goodness.
And you also had a career inmusic of your own too, though
right Outside of teaching, I didso.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
I do so, like I said, on the weekends.
I've been a church organist.
I was also a director of apraise and worship band at a
Lutheran church.
So I not only played keyboards,I did vocals, I was the
director.
When I'm not doing that, when Iwasn't doing that, I was

(05:32):
involved in our communitytheater.
So I've directed shows.
I've been a choreographer, I'vebeen a musical director.
I love it all.
I've sung with cover bands I'mnot quite Einstein.
I sang with them for 10 yearsand now I'm singing with Johnny
Christopher and I'm getting intojazz and that's exciting for me

(05:55):
.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, that's super cool.
John's a good friend of thepodcast.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yes, Also on the Board of Directors?
Yes, so that's really cool.
How did you get involved withthe Hall of Fame Pennsylvania

(06:20):
Music Hall of Fame as theeducator of note?
I actually thought I was beingpunked and I wrote her and I
said, holly, this isn't funny,you need to call me right away.
And I knew if it was Hollyshe'd have my phone number as,
by the way, holly was my studentteacher.
She went to Lebanon ValleyCollege as a music major and she
was my student teacher as amusic major, and she was my

(06:42):
student teacher.
So within seconds Holly calls meand she's laughing on the other
end of the phone and she saysthis is no joke, this is for
real.
And I'm just yelling what, what?
Because I couldn't believe it,Like I just still think I'm not

(07:02):
good enough.
I have the lowest self-esteem.

Speaker 6 (07:05):
I know.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
I shouldn't say it, but it's like Holly, is there
like a slow year with teachers?
Why am I being nominated?
And yeah, she just said thenicest things and made me
believe that I did deserve thisaward and I'm still trying to
soak it in.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
And and it's just been so fulfilling so many my
daughters put something out onFacebook and so many of my
former students just wrote tosay the kindest things to me.
And and I'm just trying, stilltrying to soak it all in- Well,
that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
I mean you definitely , you put the time in and you've
made a huge impact on our localcommunity.
I'm sure, even further out thanthat.
I'm sure some of your studentshave gone and branched out of
central Pennsylvania as well.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
They have, and it's really humbling to see so many
of my former students.
They have careers in music.
Some are professors, Some areBroadway entertain music.
Some are professors, some areBroadway entertainers, some are
composers.
So it's really really, reallyneat to see how, as an
elementary teacher, we plant theseed.

(08:17):
You know high school, I'vetaught high school and I'm
blessed with high school music.
I get the students who want tobe in chorus.
When you're in elementaryschool, we're the ones who plant
the seeds.
So when I go to these highschool musicals and I see the
students on stage, it's becauseteachers like me, elementary
teachers, we plant the seed.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
And we love to watch it grow.
That's part of the beauty ofbeing an elementary music
teacher you get to see thefinished product.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, it's really cool.
And it's funny too, because ifyou think about it, there's not
a lot of musicians you meet.
They're like, oh yeah, when Iwas 21 years old, I just
randomly decided, yeah, I shouldget into music one day.
That always starts.
I got into music when I was 11years old and you got into music
at a young age.
It takes someone to plant thatseed and then people can learn
and grow up with that and morphthemselves into the person they

(09:12):
are and the musician they are,which I think is really really
neat.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yes, you know, when I was at, when I was at the award
ceremony in March and you sawthat, um, the youth band who did
, uh, did.
What was the song that theyperformed?
When we watched the video.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Oh, bob O'Reilly, yes , the.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Bob O'Reilly so many of those kids.
I give a lot of credit to theirmusic teachers.
I think music teachers have alot of influence and that was
exciting to see.
Those kids rocked it.
Oh my gosh, they rocked it.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Oh my gosh they rocked it that night.
My goodness, they are insanely,insanely skilled musicians.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
They're all skilled musicians and I'm sure that it's
a lot of it's born in them,that talent.
But when you have a teacher whocultivates it what you saw on
that video that's a culminationof so many people in the
background who have helped tocultivate that child.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Oh, of course, and the amount of practice those
kids do too.
We interviewed them at theYouth Music Showcase Not all of
them, most of them at least andthe years prior and I know, for
example, like Alex Lou Warner,he's a guitar player who did
part of the guitar tracks onthat song he told us he
practices for like 100, was likefour hours on a bad day or

(10:30):
something like that.
I mean it's dedication, and hewas, I think, 15 at the time.
We interviewed him as well.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Music is a discipline .
I mean when I went to college Iwas even on Saturday mornings.
I was spending four and fivehours four practice room just
playing piano and singing andjust doing scales up and down.
It really is a discipline.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
It is, and we're like athletes of a different type?
Yeah, exactly, I completelyagree.
You find a way to make it yourlifestyle.
I was homeschooled until 10thgrade and I used to like sit at
my kitchen table and do myschool with a guitar in my lap
and just in between stuff, justkind of get my hand motions down
and just play while I'm readingor while I'm doing whatever.

(11:14):
So, it just it takes thatdedication and it's really neat
to see people find thatdedication at a young age.
And once again it comes back toyou, who plant that seed, which
we can't thank you enough for.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Oh, you're welcome.
You don't have to thank me, butyou're welcome.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
So you've done a lot over the years and you've
accomplished a great amount overthe years as well.
If you could go back in time,is there anything you would
maybe change or anything or dodifferently?

Speaker 3 (11:44):
oh my, yes.
So when I was 20, uh, when Iwas 20, I saw this uh, flyer, um
, do you want to sing at disneyworld?
You can be singing atcinderella's castle.
And so I went to um an anaudition at Hershey Park.
They held, they had areaauditions.

(12:07):
So I came home and I sang atHershey Park and I did the
audition and I made that cut.
The next cut was they sent ahundred people to New York.
You had to go to New York forthe next round of interviews, to
New York for the next round ofinterviews, and I sang a song by
Melissa Etheridge.
I can't even I can't even thinkof it right now, but I knew

(12:37):
that it was Melissa Etheridgeand, surprisingly, I made that
cut.
The final cut was they flew 25people to Florida.
We stayed at the ContemporaryHotel and that's where the final
audition was.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
And there was only one person coming out with this
job, correct?

Speaker 3 (12:56):
No, no, they selected 10 people to be one of the
Disney kids on the castle.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
I was chosen to be one of the Disney kids on the
castle.
Okay, I was chosen to be one ofthe Disney kids on the castle.
I was given a contract and theysaid you either had to sign a
six month contract or a yearcontract.
I didn't know anything aboutcontracts, so I asked if I could
call my dad.
I got on a pay phone and Icalled my dad and I said dad, I

(13:24):
made it.
I made it, I got the job.
They want me to sign a contract.
And he said well, ask him ifyou can bring it home and I'll
have my attorney look at thecontract.
And I said, dad, they won't letme bring the contract home.
They said I have to sign itright here.
And he said that sounds fishyto me, Don't sign it.
And he said that sounds fishyto me, Don't sign it.

(13:45):
Don't sign it.
I knew what that would mean, andhe's like, don't sign it,
there's something fishy.
And I didn't sign it and I hadto go in there and tell them I
can't take the job, oh mygoodness.
So my regret is is, and I wasscared of my father.

(14:05):
So if I would have said no tohim, who knows where I would be.
I mean, you know the amount ofpeople that go to disney world.
I would have been one of thekids on on disney world, like on
the castle, like huge deal youknow cinderella's castle, and so
if I could do a redo, that'sthe thing I would do.

(14:28):
I try not to live with regretsbecause I believe, you know, I'm
a christian and I know god hasit's all planned.
He has my life planned.
But if I could do it one moretime, I would say no to my dad
and I would have signed thatyear contract.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
In a heartbeat.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
That's.
I mean, it's such a toughdecision there, but I mean, like
you said, you like to live yourlife without regrets and who
knows, maybe you wouldn't haveenjoyed it like you thought you
would have, but you've gone outand you've made such a great
life for yourself.
Without that, I mean, I thinkit's it's, you know, still just
such a tough thing and I'm sorryyou know you didn't get to do

(15:08):
that.
But I mean here, we are andyou're still, you're still still
doing your passion.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
I'm still doing my passion and that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
So I think so, you think so that's think so.
That's good.
So I retired from teaching in2020.
Okay, and when I retired in2020, it wasn't because I was
bored with teaching.
I'm always going to lovechildren, I'm always going to
want to be a teacher, but I knewit was time to do something
else.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
And that something else was.
I just wanted to work in awinery, and hand out wine
samples.
But then crap, covid happened,so wine sampling was not going
to be.
So I'm now working at theWellSpan Good Samaritan Hospital
and I work as a sitter and Iwork with behavioral health.

(16:01):
I sit with people who've beenbrought in by the police or a
family member, people who havesuicidal, homicidal ideations.
I sit with people who are goingthrough active heroin meth
withdrawal and they need sitters.
A lot of them.
They don't realize they're adanger to themselves or to other
people and they're verydifferent people on drugs and

(16:22):
they're very different people ondrugs.
Sadly, because I've beenteaching for so long, covid has
really messed up so many people.
I'm now sitting with a lot ofmy former students.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Really.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
A lot of my former students.
But I use music, even if I'mnot sitting with people who have
suicidal, homicidal thoughts.
I sit with people who havedementia, and so I'll ask them,
what kind of music do you like?
And if they say, oh, I lovecountry, I take out my phone and
I'll play country music forthem.

(16:57):
And the music, really, ittransforms a person.
They're singing the words.
I look at my own mother who hasdementia and she lives in an
assisted living facility.
The minute I walk in that roomI'll put salsa music on and my
mother's dancing.
She's dancing.
She's a different person.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Really.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
What I love about music.
We are so blessed that we havethe gift of music, yeah, that I
see people who do have dementiaand they'll get up to do.
They have talent shows thereand I know some of the residents
and I know how bad theirdementia is worse than my

(17:39):
mother's but they'll sit at apiano and they'll sing lyrics to
a song and it's reallybeautiful to see that there's a
concert pianist, a violinist,there who has dementia and her
fingers don't work like theyused to but she still has it.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
She still has that drive for it.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
It's just beautiful to watch.
That's the power of music.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
It is.
It brings everyone down totheir core.
It's like I'm trying to thinkof a good analogy.
It's like you know, when youthink about like famous people,
it's like, at the end of the day, they're all people like you
and me.
They're all people and it's thesame way with you know the
people you work with anddementia patients and stuff like
that.
It's we're all people.
We all find joy in the samething, which was like it's like
a core value that everyoneenjoys is music.

(18:28):
It's something that bringseveryone together.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Well, look how we all coped during COVID.
It was music that helped people.
You know music.
I use it for happy occasions, Iplay weddings, I play funerals,
and a lot of times it's hymnsand Christian just songs that

(18:52):
bring people together.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yes, yeah, and it's such a joy to be able to share
that with everyone in anysetting.
You know me personally.
I'm not sure about you.
I have music playing prettymuch 24-7 when.
I'm not doing this, and it'sawesome to have that experience
in my own relationship withmusic as well, where I have my
playlists for the time of theyear, the mood I'm feeling, what

(19:15):
do I want to listen to today.
It's awesome to have that tofall back on.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Wow.
Well, Gloria, thank you so much.
This has been an amazinginterview.
Thank you are such anaccomplished music scholar.
It's been a pleasure having youon the show.
I feel like we could talk aboutthis for hours and we probably
only scraped the tip of theiceberg.
Is there anything I may havemissed or anything else that you
wanted to maybe shout out ormention before we go ahead and
wrap this interview?

Speaker 3 (19:41):
up here.
I need to meet Glenn Hamilton.
I love 97.3, the River andthat's my dream.
I have to meet him.
You've never met Glenn.
I have not and I play fact orcrap.
And, glenn, I'm ready for you.
I want to play fact or crapwith you.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
We're going to make this happen.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
We have to.
We have to, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
I have his cell phone number.
I will text him as soon as wewrap this up and say hey, we're
meeting Gloria.
She's going to play Fact orCrap.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Fact or Crap, let's go All right perfect.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, I really appreciateit and we will talk to you soon,
all right?

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Rock on everyone.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
We're sitting here with Ariana and Eric from Ruin S
Guys.
Thank you so much for coming onthe show tonight.

Speaker 7 (20:24):
Yeah, thanks for having us.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Of course I appreciate it.
I, I appreciate it.
I just laughed because I saidtonight so thank you so much for
coming on.
It's super exciting to have youhere.
New band from centralPennsylvania.
You guys have been around sincelike June this year, right?

Speaker 7 (20:38):
Yeah yeah.
We had our first debut showopening Fry Set to Kill at Love
Drafts in June and released ourfirst single in May, so just
kind of dove right in.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Nice.
That's awesome.
So new talent coming from thearea.
We love to see that.
Let's kind of talk about theband's history.
You guys all are priormusicians from other projects
you know coming together to makethis new rock band.
Let's talk more about the band.
What's your guys' history like?

Speaker 7 (20:59):
Okay, yeah, eric, you want to start off with it,
because you got some historyhere too.
Well, how far back are we going?
I was born in 1986.
It was a cool day.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
No, I play bass in the band and I, I, that was my
first instrument that I pickedup, um, but I I hadn't played in
a long time and I startedplaying the metal band cararquea
in this area and that's how Imet dylan and, uh, he invited me
to play in a our drummer yeah,our drummer in a cover band that
the other members pretty muchthe members that are in the band
now um are still in, and that'show I met all these guys and,

(21:33):
yeah, nice uh, our drummers,dylan from observe the 93rd, we
have greg from void hidden andwe have eric, you know.

Speaker 7 (21:41):
So it's a little amalgam of things and I sing in
made in america to iron maidentribute and that kind of opened
doors for you know.
Airwaves, that was our originalproject name for the cover band
okay and we did like paramorefly leaf, and then we decided
for the hailstorm set we weregoing to get rid of the airwaves
and just make it all ruin us.
So we have some tributes, butfocus is originals.
And yeah, I've been around fora while but I've only like

(22:03):
really tried going into itseriously in the past, like year
or two okay, so I've had somecover bands before I've opened
for observe the 93rd, like 12years ago.
So it's it's been a minute, butI'm excited to finally be
writing.
They definitely opened, uh, aninsecurity of mine that I'm
really grateful that they haveyeah, writing music's awesome.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
It's, it's really fun so it's such a good release,
yeah oh, yeah, oh, my goodness,yeah, and so you guys have two
songs out now, correct, twooriginals, yes yes, we have two
out, but we have about like five, six ready to go.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
At least.
Um, my phone notepad'sobnoxious.
Okay, greg's like shaking overthere.
I have like 200 something, likelittle clips of something.
I'm like I'm ready, let's goall right awesome.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
So we think like a full length in the future or an
ep it's a secret.

Speaker 6 (22:47):
Okay, fair enough, fair enough we had that
discussion recently of whichdirection we're going.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yeah Well everyone's taking different directions.

Speaker 6 (22:54):
Right now, a lot of people are just doing singles,
even the whole single thing itseems to be the way to go, yeah,
and it seems to be working fora lot of people, but people
still put out full lengths anddemos and stuff like that, so
I'm not really sure.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
I think a lot of people still enjoy the
full-length album.
Yeah, your favorite band dropsa 13-song-long album.
I just can't speak.
Yeah, it's awesome.
You're like oh my God, I can'twait to listen to this.

Speaker 6 (23:21):
So that's always exciting.
That's what I like listening toan album front to back, and a
lot of my favorite bands haveconcept albums, so that's still
a thing I love.
So bands have concept albums,so that's still a thing I love.
So like just releasing singles,I get it, but I'm a big fan of
like a full production yeah,full album.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Oh, you gotta love the bands that do both too.
Or just like constantly likedance, gavin dance.
Constantly dropping singles andthen a full length every two
years.
Yeah, love that kind of stuff.

Speaker 7 (23:43):
It's also an industry .
It's always kind of changing,flowing too, so it's like kind
of have to keep up with at thatcurrent moment as well oh yeah,
of course, of course, um.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
So you've been playing a lot of shows too here
locally.
Uh love drafts correct?

Speaker 7 (23:54):
yeah, yeah, we had a little uh low-key residency kind
of going on there, had ahailstorm set and then, uh, the
next two weekends we did likeeva under fire and a really cool
like friday the 13th show rightbefore christmas time too, with
our friends uh, gunmetal, grayand karma oh, pretty cool,
awesome.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yep, no, those guys actually have well technically
not interviewed gunmetal gray,but I think I've interviewed
most of the members just intheir different projects yeah,
yeah, yeah, and karma as well.

Speaker 7 (24:16):
We're all suckers for multiple bands.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
There's a madness to it, it's awesome, though, like
how many of these bands are justlike forming different bands
together.
It's just like this giantcommunity, which is the entire
importance of what we do hereyeah, it's beautiful.
Yeah, it's like a lot of localsuper projects, yeah yeah,
pretty much, and it's just likeI just love the love that
everyone has for each other andthe support and it's just like,
oh, this guy's in this band, inthis band, but they're also in

(24:39):
this band together.
Yeah, it's really cool.
It's really cool and it'sinteresting to see how they all
mesh together, like I I didn'teven know dylan was in your
guys's band your jaw on thefloor was priceless.

Speaker 7 (24:48):
Like you're here, I was like Dylan's here he's like
yeah, I play the drums in thisband.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
I'm like huh, didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
So I try my best to stay up to date, but you know
it's hard so I

Speaker 2 (24:58):
respect it, but other big shows coming up.
You're doing Rock on the Hillin June as well, correct?

Speaker 7 (25:05):
Yeah, scored red jumpsuit apparatus as the
headliner this year.
It's nuts man, it's greatthat's awesome.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
I used to love them like yeah yeah, that's, that's
crazy.
I didn't even know they werestill touring.
If I'm being honest, but that's.
That's so cool.
I I gotta make it to one ofthese years.
I haven't made it before youshould come this time.

Speaker 7 (25:21):
Yeah, I feel like.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
I feel like we always have something going on every
year for something I don't know.
I'll talk to brennan, maybe youand get us backstage, we'll do
some podcast interviews orsomething potential vendors
that'll make sense.
Yeah, that's true, interviewall the local talent.
You know we did that like JB'sover the summer, so yeah, would
be really cool.

Speaker 7 (25:41):
I volunteer as tribute.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
I'll be there as long as I get to see Red Jumpsuit
and you guys, of course.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
Good save when they announced that they were
headlining like that's the name.
I I've never listened to them,but you know the name, yeah, so
what I heard that was like thatsounds big yeah, wait, you
didn't know, you didn't listento like face down back in the
day.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
No, oh god I was like 13 years old, acting like I
knew what domestic abuse was.
Dude, that was such a good songin his defense.

Speaker 7 (26:07):
I don't think it's a concept album.
I will give you that, that'snot just what I listen to.

Speaker 6 (26:11):
I know I'm just, I grew up on like 90s, like grunge
music and stuff like that fair,fair, fair.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Um, now, you didn't mention the tribute band part,
so let's kind of dive a littlebit into that a little bit more.
So you do hailstorm.

Speaker 7 (26:21):
You said you did some paramour yeah, we did a lot of
paramour.
That's.
That's my favorite band alltime.
Hayley williams, idol.
Love you.
She can't hear me, but love youhope your ears are ringing,
yeah I hope she hears this.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
I hope so yeah, oh, my god, I have a soft spot for
her, soft spot for her in myheart as well.

Speaker 7 (26:35):
I cannot speak today I keep tripping over my words.
I apologize.
I'm not a doctor, so pleasedon't have a stroke, but no,
I'll uh.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah, I'll do my my best.
Okay, yeah, I got you yeah,thank you.

Speaker 7 (26:44):
Reel it in, danny, no kidding, yeah, but the airwaves
was a lot of fun.
Um, I'm gonna miss parts ofthat, but I I'm really proud of
us, like with what we've done,with ruin us so far and and
bringing it all under oneumbrella because, like, if you
like that, like artists likethis, and we're doing well with
that artist, check out our stuff, you know what I mean.
And just having the honor ofdoing a paramore set in general,

(27:05):
like with them being my idolsand stuff, was just so cool to
have that opportunity.
Yeah, um, a little cool thingtoo.
We did all I wanted, which wasa song.
Like years ago, I wouldn't havethought I'd ever be, able to do
and that it's hard and it's justcool to feel that growth in
yourself when you can dosomething like that later.
So there's a lot ofopportunities from these guys
that I'm very grateful for yeah,that was something cool with
that the airways project.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
When I got brought in I didn't listen to a lot of
that music that we covered.
Like I, I heard of the bands.
I was aware of them but did notlisten to it growing up, so it
was a huge learning curve for me, but it made me a fan of so
many of these bands that I justkind of brushed aside it's like
you learned that appreciationfor them, oh yeah, especially
like paramore.
For sure, because we played somuch and I'd learned so many

(27:47):
other songs, I had a hugerespect for their talent and
it's not a band that I wouldhave listened to five years ago
no, and it's cool because ithelps you like grow as a
musician, as well, oh, big time,big time, yeah.
And the Hailstorm stuff thatwe're doing now like, yeah, like
that we're original band, solike the focus is, like you know
, making our music.

(28:07):
But holy shit, dude, those guysare good, yeah, and they're a
band I've been aware of for solong because they're from this
area.
I remember when I first startedplaying bass they were
advertising for a new bassplayer in patriot news.
That's how like local and thoseguys are.
When, when we got offered thechance to play a tribute set for

(28:30):
them, I was like yeah I'll beno problem.
It's been a battle to learnthese guys material.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah they're extremely talented musicians.
It's like it's not.
It's like it's it's so coolbecause they're a local band,
but it's like, oh my god, theyhave that much talent packed
into them as well, yeah, it'snot like it's.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
They're not overhyped , they are very.
They earned every inch of famethey have yes, of course.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Of course.
Now, with your original music,where, where are you guys
drawing your inspiration from?
Is it a little bit of all thetribute bands, or is it just you
know?
Let's, let's try to find whatour roots are and morph into our
own sound, which I thinkeveryone does.

Speaker 7 (29:03):
But I call it ping pong honestly, because I it's my
first time like, truly likewriting, releasing anything, and
I can have an idea and I'lljust like tap on my leg a rhythm
, sing the melody of like lyricsand stuff.
I'll send it to greg and he'lljust like write this thing
around it and we'll just likeping pong, the ideas back and
forth and then these guys comein and add all the toppings to
the sundae.

(29:24):
Not, derek, hi Derek.
Dylan and Eric.
I combined their names.
I made a Derek Henry up here.
I also went and observed the93rd.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Me and Dylan are Derek.
Yeah, they are.
Derek.
I'm waiting for Derek to justwalk out from behind the curtain
right now.

Speaker 7 (29:41):
He's like hi guys, I was sleeping, how's?

Speaker 2 (29:42):
it going.

Speaker 7 (29:43):
No, but it's been a really fun experience.
And there's other times wherethey'll have stuff that they've
created and they'll send it myway and I'm like I have
something.
I got it.
Like our first single uh, yourfriendly neighborhood was a full
thing that that greg alreadyhad like a draft like written
for I'm looking at him you guyscan't see him, but I can um and
yeah it it was.
Uh, I was angry at the time.
I don't, that's going to be alittle more of a secret

(30:06):
internalized, but that's okay.
Uh, I'll say songs like thatconfirm enemies, I think is a
fair way to put that.
So know that going into writingsongs like that.
But, um, it was a good releaseat the time.
For me it was a good ventingoutlet and, um, I'll get a

(30:29):
little it uh, for a while now.
I thank music for that.
Uh, but he was a lot closer toa lot of other people that I'm
very close with.
So, like, trying to maintainthat respect of I'm grieving,
you're grieving harder and thisisn't about me, but having this
outlet to write, that's whatafter lifeline was.
For me.
It was I don't know what totell my friends now that they're
all in peak grieving, like it'sabout that.

(30:49):
But it's like I wish I couldhave helped you, like I didn't
see the signs.
Where did you go?
You said you'd make it to mynext show.
Like it, yeah, and then likethe, the the bridge.
It's just been such a healthyoutlet, you know, especially

(31:11):
because there's so many otherthings people could really go to
instead.
It's just the beauty of musicand I, yeah.
So I just kind of use it as aventing situation, but I also am
trying to write moreinspirationally instead of just
like angry or sad yeah but thegoal is to be catchy.
I want you to hear it once andget stuck, you know.

Speaker 6 (31:24):
Yeah, I think it's a fair way.
What's cool about that song too, the afterlife line is it's
about suicide, but it can alsoyou can relate to it Like I lost
my brother and my mother withina year and a half.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Oh, my goodness, I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (31:39):
And just the chorus line, like just the lyrics, you
can still connect with it.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
It didn't have to be someone you lost through taking
their own life.
Anyone connect with it?
Yeah, yeah, like it.
It it's like a broad reach,like it's, you can just feel it.
Yeah, you like you know and, uh, it speaks to you.
Yeah, exactly, you feel thatpain together if you know, and
it's somewhat comforting, I'msure oh, big time yeah yeah, no,
that's.
It's cool that you guys arebeing vulnerable with your music
writing abilities and justgetting out there and writing
those songs to the peoplestruggling with those hard times
.
I know music's definitelyhelped me through some of the
hardest times in my life, so Ithink it's really cool that you

(32:13):
guys are willing to come on hereand talk about that that's the
biggest, that's the best outletfor dealing with anything.

Speaker 6 (32:19):
Yeah, whether it's your you interrupted me.

Speaker 7 (32:26):
I'm sorry, I won't do it again.

Speaker 6 (32:28):
No, it's a great outlet for the good and the bad.
And.
I wanted to touch on somethingbefore we get too far away from
it.
When you're asking about theprocess of writing this young
lady and Greg, who you can't seeright now, just imagine him.

Speaker 7 (32:42):
You'll see him in a minute.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
Does everything.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:46):
These two are so freaking talented and, of course
, me and Dylan do our thing, butthey're making it all happen.
That's so cool, thank, you.
They've done so much.
Do not wave your hand at me.

Speaker 7 (32:59):
Put that middle finger down, no seriously.

Speaker 6 (33:03):
It's not an exaggeration, we're just trying
to be funny.
Those two have put so much workin since June for us to get to
playing our first show, havingenough material, everything they
do everything.
I love the respect that youguys have for each other.
Those two, greg, should havebeen on here besides me.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Greg, do you want to hop in here quick, mom?
Hi, greg.
Oh, greg's coming.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
Hop in here for a second you don't have to, mom,
hi Greg, oh, greg's coming hopin here for a second.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
This is completely we've gone rogue, alright, get
the hell out of here, hi Greg hithese two are seriously the
backbone of the band.
They do the most work.
Me and Dylan make it happen,but we're making their dreams
come true.
Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 7 (33:51):
Give, give Greg the mic.
Oh, do you want mine here?

Speaker 5 (33:54):
Hi, I'm Greg.
Hi, greg, hey, what do you?

Speaker 2 (33:56):
do in the band.
Uh, I play guitar.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
Nice, nice.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
So what do you do?
I mean, he's over here sayingyou're the backbone of the band.
What is your process like?

Speaker 5 (34:06):
That's an overstatement.
So our process largely startswith Aerie.
She comes up with really themain ideas and the themes for
all the songs.
She has, like she said, a hugefile in her phone just filled
with small ideas.
That I'm sorry am I.

Speaker 7 (34:25):
You got your thing there um whiskey priority.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
I get it that stresses me out.
But I mean she is justconstantly creating and sends
these ideas.
She'll send them to me and Itry to kind of piece together
things around it um that justcreate into into something
bigger.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
That's so cool that is so cool.
Now, what was the writingprocess?
Like I mean, you guys are allcoming from different projects
and then finally coming together.
What was that process?

Speaker 6 (34:47):
like it's kind of quick, it is fast yeah, it's
very different from what I'mused to.
Um, it's not so much in the uh.
I'm used to right like you gettogether at practice and
everyone's just like someone hasan idea and you mess with it.
It's very done in thebackground.
Starting with these two, though, and he has a little studio set
up at his house so they recordmusic and like just send it out

(35:10):
in our discord, like what do youguys think of this?
And then we just build off thatthat is so cool.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
So you guys have this amazing chemistry like that is,
how did like?
Did you guys expect this tohappen?
Or just kind of happen?

Speaker 6 (35:21):
you were just like oh , this happened, but we're
rocking with it at this pointfor me it was very random it was
uh, I showed up to practiceonce for the airwaves and
they're like you guys want tostart some original stuff do you
want to play bass where I waslike of?
Course yeah, and that's just.
It was just just kind ofrandomly went that direction,
the original direction sorry, no, they've been trying to get me
to write.

Speaker 7 (35:41):
Dylan's been trying to get me to write greg's like
you should write you shouldwrite and, you know, get in your
head I I everyone, I feel likeit's those points and I just was
like I have these ideas and Isent them to greg.
He's like no, I love that.
And then I was like, oh, okay,and then I just kind of kept
rolling with it and you, thankyou, yeah, and it makes sense
because we were doing well withthe cover stuff and we're all
good at what we do, not tryingto toot any horns, um, I'm

(36:05):
usually very humble.

Speaker 6 (36:05):
I don't think there's anything wrong with what you
said, um, so it's like, why not?
Yeah why not we?
We all have other projects, forthe most part, like she has,
you know, made in america.
Uh, he's got his originalproject void hidden, dylan's in
observed and uh, whatever thehell else whatever needs help,
he's in I forgive you um, so itjust made sense.

(36:31):
You know why.
Why waste talent when you haveit?

Speaker 2 (36:34):
yeah, that's so cool.
Well, guys, I'm so excited foryou.
It seems like you have amazingchemistry, as I've mentioned
several times already.
I'm really excited to seewhat's going to come from the
future with you Really lookingforward to find out if you're
coming out with an EP or a fullalbum.
We'll make sure we stay tuned.
Is there anything else thatmaybe I'm forgetting, that you
wanted to mention or shout outbefore we go ahead and wrap this

(36:55):
?

Speaker 7 (36:55):
up wwwruinescom.
R-u-i-n-e-s-s all capitalletters.
That is us.
We have a music video out forour first single.
Your friendly neighborhood onyoutube as well.
Okay, uh, but check out ourwebsite.
You'll find everything rightthere awesome.

Speaker 6 (37:09):
Also all the streaming like wherever you
stream, like we're everywhereokay, except that one, whatever
one you're thinking that one,that one, okay, yeah not that
one, but the others this is like?

Speaker 2 (37:19):
is this like the game , but with music?

Speaker 7 (37:21):
yeah, you just lost it, goodness.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Well, thank you guys so much, I really appreciate it.
Dale, you might as well justrun over here and show your face
for like two seconds before wewrap this.
This is completely unorthodox.
All right, once again, thankyou so much, and we have a live
performance coming up, soeveryone stay tuned for the live
performance.
Thank you, we're Ruin S andthis is After Lifeline, and we
have a live performance comingup, so everyone stay tuned for

(37:47):
the live performance.

Speaker 7 (37:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
We're Ruaness and this is After Lifeline.
After Lifeline, I'm tired, sotired, just sleeping in again,
knowing all this time you're alljust caving in.
I don't know what to tell myfriends Now that they're all in

(38:22):
deep grieving, fall in deepgrieving.
Can't imagine what you feltunderneath.
Just wish you didn't have toleave.
Did I see that you could go?
You said you'd make it to mynext show.
You fixed a smile that wedidn't know and you prevent this

(38:46):
overflow.
So you picked a smile that wedidn't know Under a bad verse
overflow.
Keep thinking how, if I screamthis out loud enough, would you
hear me from the other side,like an afterlight line.
We're all just trying to makesense of why exactly it had come

(39:12):
to this.
I can't imagine what you felton the inside.
Just wish you didn't have todie Go.
You said you made it to my nextshow.
You faked a smile and we didn'tknow, underprepared for this

(39:37):
overflow.
Keep thinking how, if I screamthis out loud enough, would you
hear me from the other side,like an afterlife line.
My echo's calm.

(40:01):
But words can't reach Memoriesstained by the unseen.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

(40:22):
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh.
Where did you go?
You said you made it to my nextshow.
You faked a smile and we didn'tknow.
Under prepared first overflow.

(40:45):
Keep thinking oh, if I screamthis out loud enough, would you
hear me from the other side?
Like an afterlife.
Where did you go?

(41:06):
Like an afterlight flight?
Where did you go?
Like an after life line?

Speaker 7 (41:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
That about does it for this week.
Thank you so much for tuning into the Central Pennsylvania
Music Podcast.
As always, I'm your host,Daniel, and we'll see you next
time.
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