October 15, 2024 • 50 mins
Welcome to an all new season of The Central Pennsylvania Music Podcast! To start off Season 3 we have:
Greg Platzer:
An incredibly talented and seasoned guitar guru; Greg has spent decades building and repairing some of the coolest guitars for the biggest names in music. Former owner of BCR Music and Sound, Greg still works in restoration out of his home in Mechanicsburg, PA.
https://gregplatzerguitars.com/
&
Ben Ginder Group:
3 time CPMA Nominee;
Ben Ginder Group has been dazzling audiences with their unique blend of accessible classic hard rock/heavy metal. They’ve played shows in support of The Dead Daisies, Jared James Nichols, and Brother Cane, and performed at the Bret Michaels Parti-Gras 2.0 After Parti. They have multiple original album/EP/single releases available for purchase/streaming.
https://bengindergroup.com/
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Central Pennsylvania Music
Podcast Tonight Greg Platzer andBen Gindergrew.
This episode is sponsored byEnglewood Brewing.
And now your hosts, daniel Kimeand Alan McCutcheon.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
We are sitting here with Greg Platzer of Greg
Platzer Guitar.
Greg, thank you so much forcoming on the show tonight.
It's a pleasure having you here.
Hey, thanks for having me, ofcourse, of course.
So let's talk about what you'vebeen up to lately.
So you are the owner of GregPlatzer Guitar.
Yes, sir, you do some repair,restoration.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Custom builds yes, builds yes, sir, talk to us a
little bit about that well, I,uh, I've been at it a little
while and uh, I, uh, well, we'lljust get this out of the way.
I, I build guitars for zz top.
I do repairs for anybody fromaerosmith skid row uhely Dan,
when they were still Steely Dan,sheryl Crow, blah, blah, blah,
(01:08):
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah.
Yeah, but I do local peoplethat are of note just as much,
and in fact I'd rather do thelocal people than the rock stars
, because half the time the rockstars stars are just they can
be difficult, never meet yourheroes, kind of yeah well, yeah,
(01:31):
yeah, we'll just leave it atthat.
Fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
We're gonna keep your clientele happy, so yeah a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
You know, some of them owe me a lot of money, so
well so I mean you named somepretty big names there.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
How did you get into working for working with those
kind of people?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
um, I grew up in gettysburg and I was part of the
, the harrisburg music scene,and then real life happened and
a lot of my friends stayed withit and went on to become
somebody and, um, I concentratedon working on guitars and so I
(02:07):
have there's all kinds of guysthat are out on the road that
I've known since we were bangingaround in clubs, and so
somebody will break something.
And somebody will say, hey, youknow, like bon jovi's gold less
paul fell over and, uh, his guybroke the headstock off, and so
his guy's like talking topeople and saying, well, who do
(02:29):
we get to fix this?
And we'll just call Greg, callGreg.
And he's like, well, does Greghave a last number or last name?
And he found out, and you know,because everybody on Bon Jovi's
crew knew me, and so you know,in any business, if you do your
job well enough, the rightpeople are going to know who you
are yeah, absolutely.
(02:51):
And my grandfather told me whenI was a little kid don't ever
try to be the best, just bebetter than everybody else.
And so I'm still trying to bebetter than everybody else.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I think that's great advice and it's cool that you've
turned that into kind of yourlife motto and it seems to be
working very well for you.
I'm doing, I'm doing okay, yeah, I mean it also goes, you know,
back to the roots of.
You know word of mouth.
You know if you have a goodname for yourself.
You know you build it.
People will come.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Recommendations are worth more than advertising.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Always.
What would you say has beenyour favorite part over all
these years doing this?
The scope of work that you doum?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
well sometimes meeting my heroes.
Uh I, I get a hug from rogerdaltrey every time I see him.
That's awesome that right there,um, telling steve and tyler uh,
hey, man, I gotta finish mydinner here.
I'll talk to you in a littlebit.
You know to be able to do that,it's.
(03:51):
It's almost surreal.
Um, young man and I weretalking earlier like making
friends with a guy named Charliestar from Blackberry smoke.
Um, and we're family now andthe way I met him, I was working
with ZZ top and um, and I wasbackstage at Wolf Trap and
Blackberry Smoke was opening upand myself and my then
girlfriend were standing in thein guitar world where all the
(04:14):
guitars over the road.
He has the guitars and Elwood,who was the guitar tech at the
time, said I got to go ask Billysomething.
So he goes downstairs, sothere's nobody on this big
expanse of a stage except for ustwo and charlie star and
richard, the bass player, comewalking up the steps and charlie
looks around, he sees me and hecomes walking right up to me
(04:36):
and he says, hey, I'm charlie.
And I said, well, nice to meetyou, I'm greg.
I said, hi, richard, this issarah.
And uh, we started talking andthis and that, whatever.
And then at one point I justsaid, charlie, why did you
introduce yourself to me.
I'm nobody.
Why did you do that?
He said we've been touring withthese guys for a while and
you're standing right by billy'sguitars without a security
(04:58):
guard.
You're somebody I need to knowand it it was like okay wow.
You know, and because he was ascool as he was, you know, we, we
forged a friendship and nowhe's got a couple of my guitars
out on the road with him rightnow and, um, but again, it's it.
(05:20):
You just gotta, sometimes youhave to put yourself in the
right place and sometimes youhave to choose not to put
yourself somewhere and andwhat's gonna, what's gonna be
right, is gonna happen, you knowwhat's gonna be right is gonna
happen.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
That's awesome, so cool.
I mean that had to have beensuch a surreal, surreal feeling
to have something like thathappen.
You know, have someone realizethat the stature that you hold
and Well, I'm still nobody butI'd say you're somebody.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Come on, I'm standing there.
The fun thing about GuitarWorld and with all these artists
I work with, I get to see theseiconic guitars and I'm looking
and there's the furry guitarthat Billy and Dusty, the guitar
and bass that spin in the Legsvideo and I mean all this crazy
stuff that I've looked at mostof my life and it's right there
and I've worked on a lot of thatstuff.
(06:08):
Um, the double neck that litaford uh has the white double
neck, the first ever bc richdouble neck I rebuilt that for a
few years ago and lita, you canpay me anytime you want, um.
But I've gotten to work on someamazing iconic guitars and
that's probably the best thingis is to see something in
(06:33):
photographs and on video andstuff and then to look down at
my repair bench and there it is,and to know that they trust me
enough to give me this, thisthing.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Some of the guitars I work on I can't afford to
replace I mean, yeah, does itever get like nerve-wracking a
little bit where you're like Ican't screw this up?
Oh, it's always like that.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I don't.
I don't care if it's a famousperson or you.
I can't screw any of it up.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, it's like restoring the declaration of
independence yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Or or just gluing together a picture that grandma
tore in half by mistake, yeah, Imean, the bottom line is, every
job you do, you have to dobetter than anybody else.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, that's absolutely true.
So, not to slide out of onetopic into another, but I do
know you let's slide through abunch of topics, you know what?
Well, you got a lot of stuff totalk about.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Well, you know, I'm just a one man.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Well, I mean, you're kind of a village with a lot of
stuff you do, but anyways, joyto the Berg burg.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
That's something, that joy to the burg I
definitely want to talk aboutlet's talk about joy to the burg
okay, joy to the burg startedwith a great idea.
Um, I had a?
Uh, I used to own a shop calledbcr music and there was a
gentleman named sheldon I don'tknow which camera to look at,
there's like 24 of them here.
Um, I had a gentleman namedsheldon who, uh, took guitar
lessons and he said to me onetime you know, I I've had great
(07:42):
life, I want to give back and Iwant to do some sort of charity
thing.
So he had this idea of havinglocal musicians because he was
impressed with the music scene.
When he came to the area and hesaid why don't we have
musicians record Christmas songsand then we can help the
homeless?
He said do you, can you help mewith that?
I said, can I help you withthat?
And, uh, hours, I had a wholebunch of bands all signed up
(08:05):
ready to go and from that pointonward it it started to snowball
and now this is our fifth yearand we've raised 187 000.
oh my god, yeah, and my hope isthat, uh, other communities will
see this and outright copy us,and they're more than welcome to
(08:27):
Anybody who wants to copy theidea.
Go right ahead, because whatwe're doing is we're trying to
reinvest in the music scene.
We're trying to give everybodyin the area well, anybody that
does the downloads we're tryingto make everybody a little bit
better off and make people thatcan't help themselves a lot
(08:49):
better off.
And who better to do that thanmusicians?
Because what does a musician dobut make people feel good, yeah
, that's, that's what a musiciandoes so you said this started
five years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, okay, so I mean gonna ask again what was your
favorite part of starting?
What has been one of yourfavorite parts throughout this
aside from helping out andknowing you've helped as many
people as you have I mean,what's part of your job?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Well, there's a lot more people I can help and I
plan on doing that.
But just seeing the musiciancommunity come together, yeah,
when I was younger I'm 60 yearsold, I'm an old man and when I
was in my twenties the musicscene was huge.
There were a million bars.
Uh, every night of the weekthere was live music somewhere,
(09:33):
and on the weekends it was like,ah man, there's 22 bands out
that I want to see.
I can only see two or three,and um, through the years that's
changed a lot.
And um, bars have dried up andnow liquor licenses are being
sold to sheets, so, and andpeople feel that they need to
have alcohol to enjoy live music.
(09:55):
That's uh, seeing all differentmusicians.
And when we have our annualconcert um, this year it's
December 15th at the EnglewoodOkay, um, certain, you know,
like, this band and that bandhave never, ever been in the
(10:15):
same room together, get to seeeach other play and that's cool,
yeah, um, and and some artiststhat I, that I was completely
unaware of.
Uh, then I listened to the, thethe record for the year, and I
go, oh my gosh, and so I've beenturned on to some really
tremendous artists as a resultof this.
Um, there's so many positivesit's hard to pick any one, or
(10:36):
even any 10.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Um anytime.
Music's involved and it'shelping people.
There's just so much good aboutthat, and and people should
stand up and take notice of that.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
One thing you had mentioned there is about you
know how, back in the day youknow, you were saying you could
go every Saturday night.
It's like which band do I wantto go see, you know?
It seems like there's somewhatof a decline right now.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And you know, it's true that there isn't as much
live music.
Yeah, and that's just it.
I mean, when I was in my 20s,uh late 20s, I was in a band
called citizen cane and Iremember record labels coming to
talk to us and that's that wasthe dream, you know, get a
record deal.
Well, nowadays I have stuff um.
A song that I had on uh joy tothe bird two years ago ended up
on a national movie, and so Ihave it out on spotify and apple
music and whatever.
(11:32):
And, um, now there are, thereare uh wonderful platforms to at
least get you noticed.
Now, uh, if 25 000 peoplelisten to my song, I might make
13 cents.
So there's, there's no money init anymore.
Um and so the money is in liveperformance and people complain
(11:55):
about ticket prices.
But somebody has got to paythese people.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
And, uh, you know cover charges at, at, at clubs.
Uh, when I was a kid a covercharge was $2.
And now you see ten dollars,fifteen dollars, and people
complain but look what you'regetting.
For ten or fifteen dollars,you're getting live music
delivered, hopefully.
Well, um and a few years back Ihad a band called grumpy old
(12:21):
men okay and steve, the otherguitar player, really liked new
guitars, new shiny guitars.
He had some new prs guitars,some new uh, you know, various
guitar brands I don't want toadvertise for people and I had
all vintage guitars because Ilike old stuff.
And we set up for our regulartuesday night show and we had a
(12:42):
couple guitar boats with ourguitars there and he brought six
or seven.
I brought six or seven and wewould literally go through and
use different guitars fordifferent sounds and and what
have you.
But we're sitting here lookingat these guitars and a guy walks
up and he goes uh, what arethose guitars worth?
And I said I don't.
You know, there's a couplehundred thousand dollars there
(13:03):
and the and the guy and youbring those out to make how much
?
And Steve said, well, theband's going to get 600 bucks
tonight.
And the guy couldn't believethat we were going to do that.
And when you go see a band, allthat stuff they're using costs
them money.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
It does.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
All the time that they spent learning how to play
all the gasoline, going back andforth to practice and
everything you giving a band $10and buying a t-shirt for $20 is
huge.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It means the world to them.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
It's huge.
Support live music while youhave it, because it's going to
go away.
I have friends in all kinds ofcommunities where there is no
more live music.
We still have a pretty goodmusic scene.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
We're extremely lucky to have such a good music scene
here, absolutely.
I mean because I've even hadtimes where you know you go out
to visit friends in anotherstate or another city or
something like that, and you,you know you go out to get food
and drinks or whatever and youdon't see any live music walking
through the entire district,downtown or whatever, and I mean
harrisburg, you know, ormechanicsburg you're gonna find
(14:08):
live music somewhere.
Even you know, new cumberland,dillsburg you know, go down to
lancaster.
Oh my god, great music, oh mygod yeah, I can't believe I
didn't mention that at first.
Exactly, lancaster, shame onyou.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I I know get it together, danny not that I care,
I don't mechanicsburg fair butno, I mean no, lancaster is a
good example.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I mean they literally have pianos in the streets, you
know.
So it's it's cool to see thatyou know the communities want to
get, you know that, want tokind of help boost the music
scene.
But where was I going with this?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
back to.
We're skating through subjects.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
That's where I was going to it.
So you know well, like I saidat the beginning of this,
there's there's kind of, youknow, a lot more music now with
technology and then a lot lesslive music, and we've kind of
talked about, you know, peoplenot really wanting to go out and
spend that money.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
People don't get together, they don't get it.
Everybody's doing this.
This is this is your thing andyou know, when I'm up on stage
and I look out, I just count theblue faces and because the
phone makes your face look bluewhen you're on stage and half of
me wants to yell at them andhalf of me wants to kiss them
because at least they came in tosee the band, they can.
(15:13):
If they want to look at theirphone, they can do it yeah you
know, because at least they'rethere.
And you know, without people inthe audience, live live music is
is is really, honestly, theonly difference to a club owner,
the only difference betweenlive music and a brand of beer
or a, a kind of snack orwhatever, is they're going to
(15:37):
spend the money on whateverbrings people in when there's
butts in seats.
Whatever they're doing, they'regoing to keep doing that.
Yeah, so if they have livemusic and they don't have any
other specials and people aren'tcoming out, then they're just
going to go.
Well, live music is not, it'snot paying for itself, and so
you people out there, you needto go see live bands so that we
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can continue to entertain you.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
How well, how would you say, we bridge that gap?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
What would you think is a good?
I'm not quite sure, to betotally honest.
I'm not quite sure either.
When technology has beenwonderful I mean, there's just
so much you can do with atelephone now it blows my mind,
because when I was a kid wedidn't have that stuff but it's
also turning everybody into anisolationist.
Um, I'm out riding around on mybike and I can't believe how
(16:29):
many people, regardless of theweather, have their windows
closed, because what we do ashuman beings is we're in our
house and we have our airconditioning or heat on,
depending on the time of year,uh and and, or we just don't
have the windows open cause wedon't want the wind blowing
through or whatever, and then wego out and we get in our car
and we're in a little bubble andwe drive our bubble to wherever
(16:49):
going and we get into thebubble at work or whatever, and
so we're becoming more and moreisolated.
Yeah and uh, you know peopledon't use public transportation,
they don't.
You know everybody's such anindividual now and, um, in some
ways, social media is is makingthis happen even more so, and so
(17:10):
I know a lot of people thatwould love to come out and see a
band, but since covid, theydon't want to be real close to
somebody.
You know, covid had a hugenegative effect on live music.
It did, and a lot of venuesthat supported live music before
covid are not interested inhaving it back.
Yeah, and so the venues thatare should be supported.
If there's somewhere out therethat has live music, even if
(17:32):
it's a night that they don'thave live music, go out there
and and have dinner there.
Keep those places alive,because, once again, if we don't
support live music in inwhatever way we can, we will no
longer have live music, ofcourse.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I think we've been to your point.
You know, with the, the bubblesand you're driving our bubbles
to work.
We've been conditioned tocomfort at this point through
social media and I think it'sit's going to kind of take.
It's not the answer, but it'syou know, part of it is, you
know, people got to step outsideof their comfort zone and kind
of decondition themselves rightand get themselves feeling.
You know, and I understand youknow health concerns that's you
know.
You mentioned the whole covidthing.
(18:06):
That's.
That's you know, a separatetopic oh but you know, it's just
you know.
I think a lot of people need torealize hey, it's okay to step
outside your comfort zone and gosee live music, go support, you
know, live music.
I don't know how many times.
You know chris hunter and I.
We've been friends for years.
We've just been out and aboutand run into live music.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Sometimes we know the people playing the live music,
sometimes we don't either yeah,we always have the cops asked me
about chris hunter, by the wayoh yeah maybe we shouldn't talk
about that on the air yeah, um,all right, I don't know, did I?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
did you say I don't?
I don't know, chris, who?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
chris williams I said frederick's chris yeah bill
johnson.
Uh, yes, yeah yeah, those arethe guys I was yeah, yeah, I
never even that, bill johnsonthose names that you said, that
I don't even know, yeah exactlythat guy bill.
That guy bill what's hisbrother's name, ben?
Yeah, you gotta watch those tworeal pieces of work telling you
oh jeez.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
So what were we talking about?
Well, we were talking aboutlive music.
But speaking of live music, yes, sir, there is one more thing
we got to talk about your newband.
I have a new band called GrooveRebels.
Yes, yes, tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
What kind of band are you guys playing?
I have a cool band.
For years and years and years Iwas in a band called Grumpy Old
Men and we would play any damnsong.
We didn't care and we wereloose and we had a great time.
And it other musicians came outto see us play and, um, there's
been a band around for yearscalled blitz Steinette and the
(19:28):
singer is Amy Simpson and Amyand I are friends and we've been
talking for a long time.
You know we should worktogether.
Well, grumpy blew up and and Iwas playing with a country band
doing motorcycle festivals andthis, that whatever and Amy and
I started talking and we puttogether this band and uh, we're
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doing uh, it's a departure forme, cause I've always been in
two guitar rock and roll bandsand uh, it's, it's me on guitar
and vocals, Amy on lead vocals.
Trent Pichaka, amazingkeyboardistist.
Uh, people will recognize himfrom uh, well, he's played.
I mean everybody, he's thekeyboard player that you saw.
(20:11):
That you're like holy shit,listen to that guy.
Um, michael giblin on bass andvocals.
Giblin has red chuck studioshere in dillsburg and right now
the vapors are in his studiorecording their new record.
Wow, I just loaned him a bunchof guitars and stuff.
And then on drums, SteveMontresor, amazing drummer,
Steve's in Hot Wing Jones,Giblin's in Split Squad Parallax
(20:35):
Project.
I come from the various bands.
I was in Amy's Blitz.
Trent played with Krypton CityBlues blues review.
I think he did a stint with themiddleton brothers.
I mean, he's just the guytoured japan at 17.
He's in his 40s.
Oh my god it's been around theblock everybody is is reasonably
accomplished at what they do.
(20:55):
And I stand at rehearsal, Ilook around, I'm like I am the
worst musician in this band.
That's where I want to be.
And we're doing like earlyseventies rock and roll small
faces, humble pie, ike and TinaTurner.
I mean all we have to do isjust Amy, amy, amy at a
microphone and and we soundamazing there.
(21:16):
And we're actually we'replaying at the West shore
theater on October 12th andit'll be jelly Bricks and Us.
Okay, and Jelly Bricks are thebest damn band in Harrisburg and
I'll fight anybody that wantsto go up against that.
I love those guys.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
They are the best.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yes, oh, my God so that's going to be a great night
because they did a show withGrumpy at a theater and it was
one of the best nights I everhad.
I love playing with those guys.
They can't be any cooler andthey're different from us.
So you come out to that showand you're going to be
(21:53):
entertained the whole darn time,and I don't know if I'm going
to throw a guitar off the stageinto the audience this time or
not.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Well, if I can make it to that one, I will
definitely be getting the VIPbooth right up front, because
you can do that there at theWest Shore Theater.
You can get a whole table rightup front.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
It's awesome, yep, it is a tremendous venue and
they've been having great shows,and so West Shore Theater, you
know, and we're going to make ita regular thing there, and
support live music.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, yeah, me and Hunter.
Actually, we just went there.
Well, I guess not as recentlyanymore, but yeah, it's a great
place.
Who that?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
guy.
Yeah, that guy Ben Fred.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Fred, fred, fred, fred, yeah, fred, fred, fred,
yeah, okay, yeah, bill.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yes, arnold, yes, the football head.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
We're really, really sticking this.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I think we're good, yeah, we got the coasts clear on
that one.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I'm earning my pay.
I don't know about you.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Wait, you're getting paid.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
That's my point oh man, okay, we got Dr Brent.
No, I'm joking, so got thatcoming up.
Any other shows, any new music?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
well, I have another band, uh, I think we're called
thrive.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Uh, it's myself, you think well, we, we had a
different name okay and wedidn't like it.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
It was four guys, which is short for four guys
that don't have the time or theintestinal fortitude to find an
actual name, that hasn't beentaken by another band and, uh,
it takes too long to put that ona t-shirt.
So, um, I think we're calledThrive now and it's myself,
brian Seneca, who was in Bamboo,igloo and Zero Gravity and
whatever, and everybody knowsSeneca.
He's an amazing singer, amazingguitar player, jeff Stalk, who
(23:34):
was in Citizen Kane with me backin the day, and Milhouse on
bass, who was in Emily's Toy Box.
So, once again, it's asituation where you got a bunch
of guys that know what they'redoing and we're playing
basically rock and roll hits and, uh, it's pretty good.
And we're, uh, at blue sky onoctober 19th, a week after
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groove rebels at the west shoreokay, man, you're.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
You're my neck of the woods a lot, it sounds like,
and I'd better see you.
Oh, son, what did you say?
That one was a blue sky 19.
I think I have a wedding thatday, but if not, I'll see you at
the west shore theater let'sbreak them up, and then we don't
have to worry about hey, it'snot my family, so tell her about
tell her about what's his name.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Oh, look at him, yeah you know that guy's a mess.
You don't want that really.
Yeah, wow all right.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Well, greg, it's been a pleasure speaking with you is
there, of course.
Is there anything else?
I'm maybe missing that you wantto shout out or no?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
I just want to say that this is an excellent thing.
Um, I I'm I'm very pleased thatthis is going on and that you
guys are doing what you're doing, because anything that helps
the music scene is somethingthat should be supported.
So thank you guys for doingthis.
Thank you for that is are yousupported by bass pro shops?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
um no, it's just a thing I'm going through right
now.
I've been wearing a lot oftheir hats.
I think it frames my face well.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
So yeah, maybe you should go to them and show a
picture you're wearing thatonline.
I should you know.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Hey guys, yeah, some consideration maybe, maybe
they'll let me swing swim in thefish tank.
Finally, oh dude, oh it'scannonball.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Have you ever won?
I mean, I'm telling you, I wantto jump off the upper rock and
just absolutely make the biggestsplash ever, you know if we get
enough people to do it.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
They can't arrest all of us.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Let's go, All right guys.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
That was enough.
We're going to Bass Pro Shops.
No, actually real quick.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I did want to give you a huge shout out See you in
the
Speaker 2 (25:23):
holding.
Yeah, we'll be there with Benand Fred.
Yeah, I want to give you a hugeshout out.
Thank you for the guitar, oh.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I'm going to give you some more too.
Really, yeah, I'm going to getyou some more.
Man Love the sound of that.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, all right, let me know.
We'll make it work Absolutely.
Thanks again so much for yourtime.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
All right brother.
Thank you, Yep.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
As always, another great conversation with Greg
Platzer.
Really looking forward to thenext time.
Stay tuned Up.
Next we got Ben Ginder Group.
We're sitting here with Ben andVinny of the Ben Ginder Group.
Guys, you so much for coming on.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Thank you so much, thanks so much for having us
dude.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, yeah, we appreciate you guys coming out
here tonight talking about your,your music, the local music
community as a whole, so it'sreally exciting, uh.
So I mean, stage is yours.
Let's talk about you guys.
Uh, you kind of defineyourselves as a classic hard
rock group.
Um, you just had drop on, uh,friday, oh my goodness, friday,
(26:22):
the 13th september, so veryrecently.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
let's talk about that a little bit yeah, sure, so
it's an ep, it's called the getwise ep.
It's three songs, it's reallytwo songs, and then in between
the two of those is sandwichedan interlude, an acoustic
interlude with some guitarharmony on it.
But uh, those two songs aresomewhat of a departure for us.
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The first one is likeborderline speed metal.
It's kind of like crazy that'show I announce it in concert
anyway, just to get people'shopes up prepared for you like
playing that.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Huh yeah, it's like a blend of like I would say like
early 80s like punk, like blackflag, and then you mix in like
the guitars of like iron maidenand like kind of block.
Like I would say early 80s punklike Black Flag, and then you
mix in the guitars of IronMaiden and kind of blend it
together.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
All right.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
It's a lot of fun.
Yeah, it's a lot of fun to play.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Sounds like it gets the crowd amped up a little bit.
Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, that'scool, that's cool.
So I know we kind of talkedearlier off camera.
You kind of don't really wantto pigeon yourself, pigeonhole
yourselves into a certain soundof music.
You've experienced with a lotof different, or uh,
experimented rather with a lotof different sounds.
Uh, can we dive into that alittle bit?
What are?
Where do you guys draw some,some inspirations?
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Where do you plan to go withyour sounds in the future?
What do you?
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4 (27:35):
you go first, man um, I would like, I guess I
probably would say that we drawa lot of our inspirations from.
It's kind of like a like youthrow, we throw like some of our
favorite genres into a blenderand it just kind of comes out,
cause we all, we all appreciatelike all kinds of different
realms of music and it kind ofcomes out in the songs
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themselves.
I like to think like, dependingon if it's like a slower rock
song or a quicker one like a getwise, think like, depending on
if it's like a slower rock songor a quicker one like a get wise
, yeah, like we you can tell,like you know, um, rock is
probably the main, the maindefining thing that brings us
together if you use like oneword for it, right, yeah, yeah,
yeah, like rock.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
So you've kind of almost created this like in the
best way possible music machine,where you guys all contribute
to it and then this machinespits out a sound that you guys
all love and enjoy.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah, um, it's pretty wild.
Like we'll, we'll come to arehearsal and then one of the
guys will bring um.
It usually starts with just asmall like ben will come in and
play something really cool.
I'm like, whoa, hold up, yougotta record that.
Really quick.
We got I play that again,because I I start, then I start
playing over top of it and thenit just it happens and then like
logan, our bass player.
(28:43):
He'll come up with a couplelines, zach will come up with
some stuff, and then the song isusually almost done by the end
of practice, except for theopposite the lyrics and whatever
.
So yeah, or you can reversethat and and zach will be the
yeah you know the one leadingthe charge it's pretty crazy and
it's it's fun and, like we, weit that formula.
We've been able to releasemusic all year with just singles
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and just stuff like that, justperiodically throughout the year
, and it's just been such a funprocess.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, it sounds like you guys have a great writing
chemistry and it goes to showthat the writing chemistry is so
important in a band.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Without a doubt, yeah .
Speaker 2 (29:18):
So what would you say ?
Speaker 5 (29:19):
your answer is I think what I'll do is sort of
run through what I would callour discography and even before
that.
So I started playing acousticstuff by myself pre-pandemic for
a couple years and I tuned theguitar down way low to C
standard to accommodate my voice, because I like singing.
Some of those Led Zeppelin orwhatever it may be, those rock
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bands that sang in the reallyhigh register Couldn't quite hit
it, so I tuned way low.
So the time came then to startan original music project.
We stuck with that tuning.
We originally had anotherdrummer named Luke Newmaster and
he was rock solid not quite theanimal, uh, that vinnie is at
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this point for us, but we put analbum together with him of
original stuff and and he's he'sone of my best friends for of
all time love the guy.
Uh, that album was pretty muchstraight up classic rock and the
only weird thing there was wewere tuned so low that it just
had this weird I was influencedby, you know, down and Sabbath,
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master of Reality.
Even Blackberry Smoke has acouple songs where they tune way
low, like the song, like anArrow.
So then, moving forward fromthere, we continued.
You know, we picked up VinnyLogan's influence, started to
show.
Vinny's influence started toshow.
We got a little heavier, westarted messing around with
keyboards and acoustic, but itall still fell under the classic
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rock sort of umbrella.
But we were going heavier, wewere going lighter there's no
real way to describe it, it'sjust guitar music.
And then the current stuffwe've been doing is the natural
progression from there.
We started incorporatingstandard, because Zach loves
playing in standard our otherguitar player, okay, and he has
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been doing this interestingthing lately where he keeps his
guitar in standard and for songswhere we have to be lower, he
just hits a drop tune pedal,drops it down a couple steps and
, uh, then his guitar is uh, youknow, we're in the same tuning.
So that's pretty cool.
But sorry to go on a long rantno, that's.
(31:33):
That's really cool man that'sthe stuff we want to hear, man.
Uh, so then, the the absolutemost current stuff is just once
again a continuation of we arealways going to be here in the
middle with classic rock andwe're going to go farther one
way and we're going to gofarther the other way, whether
that's pop or metal or maybesome more easy listening
acoustic type stuff, folk,probably.
(31:56):
What we're going to do nextwe're going to record a few
songs in standard and just goback to your real classic rock
core sound, which I think peopleprobably are looking to hear
from us.
But after that, who knows man?
Speaker 4 (32:12):
it's basically like a pinball machine.
It's like we're like flying allover the place.
It's like that sounds cool.
So let's record this.
Yeah, let's do this next and itdoesn't really even matter,
like if it's fast or slow, andit's like, on that, get wise, ep
, that.
Um, we have a song in thebottom called all I want to do
is find the truth, and it's likeseven minutes long.
It's a really groovy rock songand there's a lot you can hear
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the story in it and it there'slike leaps and bounds and then
come, like he was saying, likethere's an acoustic, you know
interlude in there that leadsyou to this final song.
Um, and it's kind of somethingfor everybody in that and it's
it's cool to like hear that backand it's like you know, um,
kind of you leave a stamp ofsound for somebody out there
that can pick it up and be likeoh, this is pretty interesting
(32:54):
yeah, so it's, it's.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
You know it can be music for everybody, but you
don't want to define yourself tosimplicity as well.
It sounds like so, and itsounds saying back to the
chemistry thing that we kind oftalked about.
Uh, you know, you guys have agreat writing process and it
sounds like you were justdescribing it, with the leaps
and bounds in your music.
What is your, your process?
Like you know, are you kind ofmore ballad driven in that sense
, or are you more like what isyour writing process?
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Where is your inspirationcoming from?
Not necessarily sound, but, Iguess, meaning.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
So everything for me is based around a riff.
But at the same time you got togo the Tom Petty and Leonard
Skinner school of thought, wherethe song is the words.
So to me those two are thefoundation.
You write a cool riff.
Eventually the words willpresent themselves, a song will
(33:46):
come out of it, and you have tohave the quality there on both
sides of it for the song tostick around, I think.
How about your process?
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Vinny, yeah, I guess.
For me it's like well, I'm alittle biased, but the drums got
to really cut through.
The drums are kind of like um,not there.
The song can kind of be heavilyaffected, in my opinion.
Production, the production wise.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Yeah, we're getting to a point where I think
everyone's getting a little bithappier with how the drums sound
and how stuff is sounding.
So it's really a testament tohow he plays and just the time I
think we've been putting intoit.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
That's awesome.
Speaking about production ofthe music you just recently
recorded down in Tennessee isright, yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
So we played a show with Scotty Austin who sang in
saving Abel.
We played with him at theTourist Inn.
Chuck from the Tourist Inn hadus on that show.
We were grateful for that.
Scotty liked our sound,introduced us to his producer,
malcolm Springer.
We went down, had some fun withMalcolm in Tennessee last summer
and recorded at Welcome to 1979, which Blackberry Smoke had
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done the stone record therestraight to vinyl.
We didn't do that, in fact werecorded digital.
But we made full use of thefacilities.
Uh, we tracked stuff live andwe did some overdubs.
Uh, and malcolm was was fun man, and what came out of that was
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two of the songs that are reallyour staples right now Back and
the Flame of Love, grown Cold,which we normally just call
Flame.
But Flame may be my favoriteone that we do just because it
sort of has a universal appeal.
And I don't know what it wasabout about those songs, if it's
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where they were recorded, ifit's just something inside them.
But they they do have somethingspecial every time we play them
.
And uh, since then for me it'sbeen a new era of the band,
because before that we didtechnically put out two albums
or two cds, but ever since then,bgg now is from back on.
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Uh, what do you think?
Speaker 4 (36:13):
yeah, um, it's like that recording experience in
tennessee was kind of thecatalyst of like where we are
now, like it gave us so many newideas and like I think what
you're saying about both thosesongs, how like the time, the
place, the atmosphere, thepeople we were around kind of
like helped mold those togetherplus it was all four of us went
(36:35):
down in a truck 12 hours, Ithink it did combine.
I think it was probably like,probably more like fit, like 15
yeah because we stopped a lotand then it was like, um, we
didn't take any toll roads, sowe just took the longest way
gotta hit bucky's on the waydown.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You know we it was.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
No, it's crazy man like we looking back, it's like
that was awesome yeah such acool experience that we actually
were like, we're cool, we'reall cool with driving right,
we're cool driving down thereand this, this distance.
We're like, yeah, let's do it,let's go.
And it's like an experience ofa lifetime, like we recorded in
an amazing studio that literallylooks like it's from 1979, like
you took it right out of a timecapsule and just to see, like,
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like the, the frames on thewalls of all the other bands
that are recorded there, it'sjust just, uh, very humbling
yeah, probably a little surrealas well, real very surreal and
brings you into the moment andyou're like you have to kind of
like remember, like all right, Igotta make sure I remember this
, because this is somethingthat's like what, like it's,
it's, yeah, it's really cool.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Yeah, I.
I do want to go on recordsaying I definitely learned a
lot production wise from thatexperience, because malcolm knew
what he was doing funny guy anduh, and the way the tracks
turned out.
Um, I've been more or lesshanding our production since
then and I've been taking someof the tricks that I heard in
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his production and some of thestuff that worked about it.
I won't say I stole it, becauseI don't want to infringe upon
it.
Not to say I couldn't, you canlearn tricks from people.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I think that's okay, yeah, yeah.
So I mean overall, it soundslike you would say that the
total experience was completelya growing experience of the band
growing, bonding and and uh, alittle expensive, but that's
okay yeah, trips usually getthat way something like that.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Yeah, it was gonna run us a couple pounds, but you
know, yeah, and it was worth ithey, man, it's all about the
experience.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Exactly In the great words of Chris it's just money.
You can always make more right.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Unless they stop printing it.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Then we're kind of uh yeah, it all grows on trees, it
does, it does.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Technically.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Technically.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
If we're getting technical here, so if we're
getting technical here.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
So now other cool things you've been up to.
You just played a party girlwith, uh, brett Michaels.
Yeah, let's talk about that alittle bit.
That's a huge, awesomeexperience.
What was that like for you guys?
Um?
Speaker 4 (38:58):
another, so another really surreal experience.
I was like we um.
First of all thank you to theawesome folks at the central
Pennsylvania music hall of MusicHall of Fame for picking us,
picking our submission, to be apart of this amazing event.
We we get to play in the Hlounge in the casino from eight
(39:19):
to 12.
So we were playing all night, ohmy God.
And it was just like I had.
We went through the curtain andI looked out and I was like
we're playing here.
What I was like I had to likeare you sure it's the right spot
?
And it out.
And I was like we're playinghere.
What I was like I had like areyou sure it's the right spot?
And it's like no, we're hereand it's like man.
It was so much fun and it waslike this just see all those
people dancing and just having agood time to like, and we we
even like threw in a few of ourown tunes to see what would
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happen.
Just people were dancing tothose and they, I guarantee you
like some of them they neverheard before and it was just, it
was just so cool to see thatand again we're very grateful
and to be in that spot and thatopportunity is just phenomenal
for us.
Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I mean it's a show that good music, good people
just brings out good vibes, ifyou want to call it that.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Vibes are good, seriously Exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
So what would you say , Ben?
Speaker 5 (40:09):
I agree wholeheartedly, trying to think
if anything would be differenton my end.
It was cool.
I mean, I definitely structuredit so that when the Bret
Michaels concert goers were letout from where they are, when
they migrated over to us, we putthe heavy hitters I would call
it of our set, those two songs Imentioned earlier, back in
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flame.
I believe those were in thethird set and, uh, like he said,
it was cool to look out and seea lot of people responding to
it, which is something we don't.
We see people respond to themusic, but we don't see that
many of them lately or, uh,usually I should say yeah,
depending on where we play andwhatnot.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
if it's like a place like mickey's or something like
that, a venue we're opening forsomebody, that's when it's like
you really see the impact,that's always a good one.
The whole Party Girl experiencewas fantastic.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
That's great.
You guys have been playing withsome other acts lately Jared
James, nichols, dead Daisieswhat's one of those experiences,
like I mean, there's some greatnames there.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
So yeah, the thing I wanted to mention about Jared
James Nichols was we played forRecord Store Day at the record
store in Kutztown called YoungOnes, which I go to all the time
.
It's definitely one of myfavorites.
I go in the bargain CDs and Itrade some in.
I pick up new ones every time.
But so we played there forrecord store day along with a
bunch of other cool acts, andJared James Nichols and Tuck
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Smith and the Restless Heartswere playing that night at the
Nitro Bar.
So what they did was they hadboth of them come over and the
plan was to do an acoustic setat Young Ones.
But somewhere along the line.
I mean us to do an acoustic setat Young Ones, but somewhere
along the line.
I mean we played our set and wewere loud and obnoxious and
rock and roll, and Jaredresponded to that.
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We have a cool picture wherehe's, like you know, looking in
the door behind us at our set.
And then we were told by Chrisfrom Young Ones that after
seeing that, Jared decided as athree-piece he's going to pull
out the gear and he's going toplay electric too.
And, uh, I believe tuck smithfollowed him.
Then I can't quite remember Ihave have it all on a video but
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yeah, I think I think he wasafter.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Yeah, tuck smith was after, was after jared, and then
they went to they went to nitrobar.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
We went to mike's tavern so we unfortunately
couldn't see that show, but thenwe got got hooked up with Jared
James Nichols again throughBrandon from Big Fan Presents.
That's how we've been getting alot of these bigger shows, like
the Dead Daisies.
Brother Kane, who, damonJohnson, was in Thin Lizzy.
Now he's currently in Skinnered.
He replaced Gary so I got tomeet him.
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That was cool.
Love that band.
Brother Kane.
Dead Daisies was an awesomeexperience.
I believe those are who youmentioned, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
So I mean you guys have been a band.
I believe you guys said whatlike three or not three years
now Okay, so about three fouryears three four years, and you
seem to have accomplished quitea bit in these three four years
now.
What are your goals for thenext three to four years?
Speaker 4 (43:13):
well, I do want to say vinny has been playing since
you were um my first, my firstreal band was in high school so
I guess I was 15.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
He's been playing for a while in other, in other
circles, before he even hookedup with us.
I think probably it's fair tosay we had the most experience.
The other two guys wererelatively younger than us, zach
and Logan and now what they'redoing is they all each have side
bands or other bands, whateveryou want to call it.
Logan plays in Making a Mockery, who is an amazing modern metal
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band.
I believe that's how you woulddescribe it.
Uh, I'm going to their show inoctober at tell us, but um great
venue I forgot the question.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Tell us yeah, great venue, we just played there too
oh really yeah, uh, in late june.
Fantastic, okay, brandon helpedus.
He hooked us up with that onetoo.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yeah, okay, awesome um the question um geez.
No, I forgot what it was ohnext uh, next three to four
years, what do you guys plan tothe future?
You know, uh, you're talkingabout kind of like.
The growth as a band, I think,is where you left off no plans
for me.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
I'm just we're putting as much time and effort
into it as we can and I don'thave a plan.
I don't have any might have aplan.
I'm just speaking for myself,but I'm just seeing.
You know, I I like what whatgreg said over here and how much
he he does for trying to makethe world a better place.
You know, through the music orwhatever it may be.
(44:39):
I I hope at one point, if I getrich which I would like to that
I can use that you know what Imean that I can, can put as much
money as possible in thingslike he mentioned, that they're
doing and that Bret Michaelsthrows money into.
Maybe we'll get to that in thenext few years, maybe we won't,
(44:59):
but we'll see.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
Yeah, I guess a lot of hard work.
Continue the determination thatwe have Playing bigger places,
linking up with other bands.
Just keep working hard yeahjust because, like you are your
own, you are your like championin words, like you can go, you
have to be the one you have tobe your own hype man sometimes,
(45:22):
yeah like with what you.
So I would say, just yeah, nextthree to four years, just just
keep.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
We just want to keep working hard and like making new
relationships with people youknow, new connections, new
friends yeah, I I will say foranybody listening, my goal for
us would be that we hop on atour of maybe a band that's a
little bit more established thanus and we sort of steal some of
your fans and we sell some ofour merch.
That's what I'd love.
So if anyone out there likesour vibe, we're open is your
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merch available right now.
It is available.
We don't.
We don't have it set up on thewebsite.
If you, if you want merch, justcontact one of us, uh,
instagram, facebook or you canfind my number on the website
and I will get you the merch.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
I'm happy to do that we'll hook you up.
If you're watching this now,all that information is going to
be downstairs down thedescription.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
So check it out there .
Speaker 2 (46:08):
So yeah, yeah, we're gonna get all your information
out there.
Um one question we like a lot.
We like to ask a lot of peopleand musicians.
Um, you know, given that thisis the central pennsylvania
music podcast we're based incentral pennsylvania, focused on
this music community what is itthat you guys think,
individually or as a whole,makes the central pennsylvania
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music scene so special?
Speaker 5 (46:31):
well, first of all.
I mean it was I think it wasthree years ago now, but wasn't
really aware of of theorganization and we got.
We either got tagged orsomething happened.
It's like hey we got nominatedfor for best rock band and that
ever since then we we really Imean it helped to boost our
self-esteem.
Let's put it that way.
I felt legit and I felt like wewere noticed.
(46:53):
So, speaking to theorganization, I mean it's
impossible for them to includeevery band.
I know some bands out therethat maybe don't get the
recognition they deserve, buthopefully their time will come,
(47:14):
will come.
But we've been really gratefulfor what the, the central
pennsylvania music hall of fameorganization has done for us,
and then the scene as a whole.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
I guess we're kind of on the maybe the east side of
it, so when we travel into itit's awesome, but but honestly,
we'd like to just become abigger part of it yeah, I think
I definitely agree with that,because a lot of the you know
there's fantastic people in thisscene and like friendliest
musicians and, um, like we'veplayed with a couple different
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bands like hot and dangerousyeah, yep, like they're
fantastic.
We've played a couple shows withthem like friendliest group of
people yeah and they're part ofthe scene too and it's just,
it's just so cool to like to tofeel that camaraderie between
musicians, because sometimes itdoes feel like a competition
with with whom, whoever like.
Sometimes you play with somepeople and they're like they
kind of like give you the coldshoulder and it's just, it's
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like you know, you thought musicwas like a big family gathering
for people to get together andwhatnot.
But so it's cool to see thatthere's still people out there
that are like that, still thatkind of cherish, that mindset of
like no, it's like let's, youknow, let's talk, let's have a
conversation about like you know, let's go play a show together,
let's do this yeah, we all havethe same end goal.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Let's, let's do this together.
Speaker 5 (48:22):
I think there's room enough for everybody.
I I don't think people need tobe fighting for their time in
the spotlight.
I think we can all coexist atthe same time, you know, yeah.
For lack of a better way to putit.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
I mean, hey, as Greg said, we need more live music.
Yeah, we do.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
Yeah, it can't go away, seriously, yeah, without
live music.
A lot of stuff would cease tofunction, in my opinion.
I agree.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
I think I would cease to function without live music.
Yeah, I think we would justdefunction.
Speaker 4 (48:48):
Yeah, it would be a pretty miserable world.
Yeah, but yeah, live music is,is integral and yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
I certainly agree.
Well, gentlemen, it's been apleasure having you on here.
Is there anything I may bemissed or anything you want to
shout out?
Any tours, upcoming albums,anything like that you want to
announce?
Like I said, we're going to putall your information below for
anybody to click on, but justhappy to be here yeah, thanks
for having us.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
Um, we're actually going to be, uh, next wednesday.
We're going to be audition,doing a kind of what is it like?
An audition thing?
Speaker 5 (49:17):
oh yeah, we're uh, we're doing the house band
competition for 1029 mgk.
My wife works at parks casino,that's.
I don't think that's the reasonwe were chosen to be a part of
it, but there's 12 cut that, cutthat, cut that, cut that, cut
that.
Yeah, now I did say I don't feellike music should be a
competition.
I do feel like there's room foreverybody, but we're going to
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try our best here and hopefullywhat's going to happen is all
four bands are just good and weput on a good show because we
got some people coming andthey'll just enjoy it, and I
guess that's the goal really.
Speaker 4 (49:50):
And just have fun and see we can meet some new people
too.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Well, it sounds like you guys are already doing great
things and, after sitting downand getting to talk to you guys,
getting to know yourpersonalities a little bit, I
have confidence that you guysare going to go ahead and
continue to to thrive andprosper.
So, guys, thank you so much fortaking the time.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
Thank Of course, of course I'd love to have you back
.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Got to make sure I get out there and check out one
of your shows one of these days.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Yeah, I'd love to do it.
So, guys, thanks so much andwe'll talk soon.
Speaker 4 (50:16):
Thank you, man.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
All right, everyone.
Well, that does it for thisepisode.
Thank you so much for stickingaround.
We had some great conversationtonight.
Stay tuned for the next one,outro Music.
Welcome to the Central Pennsylvania Music
Podcast Tonight Greg Platzer andBen Gindergrew.
This episode is sponsored byEnglewood Brewing.
And now your hosts, daniel Kimeand Alan McCutcheon.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
We are sitting here with Greg Platzer of Greg
Platzer Guitar.
Greg, thank you so much forcoming on the show tonight.
It's a pleasure having you here.
Hey, thanks for having me, ofcourse, of course.
So let's talk about what you'vebeen up to lately.
So you are the owner of GregPlatzer Guitar.
Yes, sir, you do some repair,restoration.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Custom builds yes, builds yes, sir, talk to us a
little bit about that well, I,uh, I've been at it a little
while and uh, I, uh, well, we'lljust get this out of the way.
I, I build guitars for zz top.
I do repairs for anybody fromaerosmith skid row uhely Dan,
when they were still Steely Dan,sheryl Crow, blah, blah, blah,
(01:08):
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah.
Yeah, but I do local peoplethat are of note just as much,
and in fact I'd rather do thelocal people than the rock stars
, because half the time the rockstars stars are just they can
be difficult, never meet yourheroes, kind of yeah well, yeah,
(01:31):
yeah, we'll just leave it atthat.
Fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
We're gonna keep your clientele happy, so yeah a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
You know, some of them owe me a lot of money, so
well so I mean you named somepretty big names there.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
How did you get into working for working with those
kind of people?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
um, I grew up in gettysburg and I was part of the
, the harrisburg music scene,and then real life happened and
a lot of my friends stayed withit and went on to become
somebody and, um, I concentratedon working on guitars and so I
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have there's all kinds of guysthat are out on the road that
I've known since we were bangingaround in clubs, and so
somebody will break something.
And somebody will say, hey, youknow, like bon jovi's gold less
paul fell over and, uh, his guybroke the headstock off, and so
his guy's like talking topeople and saying, well, who do
(02:29):
we get to fix this?
And we'll just call Greg, callGreg.
And he's like, well, does Greghave a last number or last name?
And he found out, and you know,because everybody on Bon Jovi's
crew knew me, and so you know,in any business, if you do your
job well enough, the rightpeople are going to know who you
are yeah, absolutely.
(02:51):
And my grandfather told me whenI was a little kid don't ever
try to be the best, just bebetter than everybody else.
And so I'm still trying to bebetter than everybody else.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I think that's great advice and it's cool that you've
turned that into kind of yourlife motto and it seems to be
working very well for you.
I'm doing, I'm doing okay, yeah, I mean it also goes, you know,
back to the roots of.
You know word of mouth.
You know if you have a goodname for yourself.
You know you build it.
People will come.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Recommendations are worth more than advertising.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Always.
What would you say has beenyour favorite part over all
these years doing this?
The scope of work that you doum?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
well sometimes meeting my heroes.
Uh I, I get a hug from rogerdaltrey every time I see him.
That's awesome that right there,um, telling steve and tyler uh,
hey, man, I gotta finish mydinner here.
I'll talk to you in a littlebit.
You know to be able to do that,it's.
(03:51):
It's almost surreal.
Um, young man and I weretalking earlier like making
friends with a guy named Charliestar from Blackberry smoke.
Um, and we're family now andthe way I met him, I was working
with ZZ top and um, and I wasbackstage at Wolf Trap and
Blackberry Smoke was opening upand myself and my then
girlfriend were standing in thein guitar world where all the
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guitars over the road.
He has the guitars and Elwood,who was the guitar tech at the
time, said I got to go ask Billysomething.
So he goes downstairs, sothere's nobody on this big
expanse of a stage except for ustwo and charlie star and
richard, the bass player, comewalking up the steps and charlie
looks around, he sees me and hecomes walking right up to me
(04:36):
and he says, hey, I'm charlie.
And I said, well, nice to meetyou, I'm greg.
I said, hi, richard, this issarah.
And uh, we started talking andthis and that, whatever.
And then at one point I justsaid, charlie, why did you
introduce yourself to me.
I'm nobody.
Why did you do that?
He said we've been touring withthese guys for a while and
you're standing right by billy'sguitars without a security
(04:58):
guard.
You're somebody I need to knowand it it was like okay wow.
You know, and because he was ascool as he was, you know, we, we
forged a friendship and nowhe's got a couple of my guitars
out on the road with him rightnow and, um, but again, it's it.
(05:20):
You just gotta, sometimes youhave to put yourself in the
right place and sometimes youhave to choose not to put
yourself somewhere and andwhat's gonna, what's gonna be
right, is gonna happen, you knowwhat's gonna be right is gonna
happen.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
That's awesome, so cool.
I mean that had to have beensuch a surreal, surreal feeling
to have something like thathappen.
You know, have someone realizethat the stature that you hold
and Well, I'm still nobody butI'd say you're somebody.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Come on, I'm standing there.
The fun thing about GuitarWorld and with all these artists
I work with, I get to see theseiconic guitars and I'm looking
and there's the furry guitarthat Billy and Dusty, the guitar
and bass that spin in the Legsvideo and I mean all this crazy
stuff that I've looked at mostof my life and it's right there
and I've worked on a lot of thatstuff.
(06:08):
Um, the double neck that litaford uh has the white double
neck, the first ever bc richdouble neck I rebuilt that for a
few years ago and lita, you canpay me anytime you want, um.
But I've gotten to work on someamazing iconic guitars and
that's probably the best thingis is to see something in
(06:33):
photographs and on video andstuff and then to look down at
my repair bench and there it is,and to know that they trust me
enough to give me this, thisthing.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Some of the guitars I work on I can't afford to
replace I mean, yeah, does itever get like nerve-wracking a
little bit where you're like Ican't screw this up?
Oh, it's always like that.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I don't.
I don't care if it's a famousperson or you.
I can't screw any of it up.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, it's like restoring the declaration of
independence yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Or or just gluing together a picture that grandma
tore in half by mistake, yeah, Imean, the bottom line is, every
job you do, you have to dobetter than anybody else.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, that's absolutely true.
So, not to slide out of onetopic into another, but I do
know you let's slide through abunch of topics, you know what?
Well, you got a lot of stuff totalk about.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Well, you know, I'm just a one man.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Well, I mean, you're kind of a village with a lot of
stuff you do, but anyways, joyto the Berg burg.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
That's something, that joy to the burg I
definitely want to talk aboutlet's talk about joy to the burg
okay, joy to the burg startedwith a great idea.
Um, I had a?
Uh, I used to own a shop calledbcr music and there was a
gentleman named sheldon I don'tknow which camera to look at,
there's like 24 of them here.
Um, I had a gentleman namedsheldon who, uh, took guitar
lessons and he said to me onetime you know, I I've had great
(07:42):
life, I want to give back and Iwant to do some sort of charity
thing.
So he had this idea of havinglocal musicians because he was
impressed with the music scene.
When he came to the area and hesaid why don't we have
musicians record Christmas songsand then we can help the
homeless?
He said do you, can you help mewith that?
I said, can I help you withthat?
And, uh, hours, I had a wholebunch of bands all signed up
(08:05):
ready to go and from that pointonward it it started to snowball
and now this is our fifth yearand we've raised 187 000.
oh my god, yeah, and my hope isthat, uh, other communities will
see this and outright copy us,and they're more than welcome to
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Anybody who wants to copy theidea.
Go right ahead, because whatwe're doing is we're trying to
reinvest in the music scene.
We're trying to give everybodyin the area well, anybody that
does the downloads we're tryingto make everybody a little bit
better off and make people thatcan't help themselves a lot
(08:49):
better off.
And who better to do that thanmusicians?
Because what does a musician dobut make people feel good, yeah
, that's, that's what a musiciandoes so you said this started
five years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, okay, so I mean gonna ask again what was your
favorite part of starting?
What has been one of yourfavorite parts throughout this
aside from helping out andknowing you've helped as many
people as you have I mean,what's part of your job?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Well, there's a lot more people I can help and I
plan on doing that.
But just seeing the musiciancommunity come together, yeah,
when I was younger I'm 60 yearsold, I'm an old man and when I
was in my twenties the musicscene was huge.
There were a million bars.
Uh, every night of the weekthere was live music somewhere,
(09:33):
and on the weekends it was like,ah man, there's 22 bands out
that I want to see.
I can only see two or three,and um, through the years that's
changed a lot.
And um, bars have dried up andnow liquor licenses are being
sold to sheets, so, and andpeople feel that they need to
have alcohol to enjoy live music.
(09:55):
That's uh, seeing all differentmusicians.
And when we have our annualconcert um, this year it's
December 15th at the EnglewoodOkay, um, certain, you know,
like, this band and that bandhave never, ever been in the
(10:15):
same room together, get to seeeach other play and that's cool,
yeah, um, and and some artiststhat I, that I was completely
unaware of.
Uh, then I listened to the, thethe record for the year, and I
go, oh my gosh, and so I've beenturned on to some really
tremendous artists as a resultof this.
Um, there's so many positivesit's hard to pick any one, or
(10:36):
even any 10.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Um anytime.
Music's involved and it'shelping people.
There's just so much good aboutthat, and and people should
stand up and take notice of that.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
One thing you had mentioned there is about you
know how, back in the day youknow, you were saying you could
go every Saturday night.
It's like which band do I wantto go see, you know?
It seems like there's somewhatof a decline right now.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And you know, it's true that there isn't as much
live music.
Yeah, and that's just it.
I mean, when I was in my 20s,uh late 20s, I was in a band
called citizen cane and Iremember record labels coming to
talk to us and that's that wasthe dream, you know, get a
record deal.
Well, nowadays I have stuff um.
A song that I had on uh joy tothe bird two years ago ended up
on a national movie, and so Ihave it out on spotify and apple
music and whatever.
(11:32):
And, um, now there are, thereare uh wonderful platforms to at
least get you noticed.
Now, uh, if 25 000 peoplelisten to my song, I might make
13 cents.
So there's, there's no money init anymore.
Um and so the money is in liveperformance and people complain
(11:55):
about ticket prices.
But somebody has got to paythese people.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
And, uh, you know cover charges at, at, at clubs.
Uh, when I was a kid a covercharge was $2.
And now you see ten dollars,fifteen dollars, and people
complain but look what you'regetting.
For ten or fifteen dollars,you're getting live music
delivered, hopefully.
Well, um and a few years back Ihad a band called grumpy old
(12:21):
men okay and steve, the otherguitar player, really liked new
guitars, new shiny guitars.
He had some new prs guitars,some new uh, you know, various
guitar brands I don't want toadvertise for people and I had
all vintage guitars because Ilike old stuff.
And we set up for our regulartuesday night show and we had a
(12:42):
couple guitar boats with ourguitars there and he brought six
or seven.
I brought six or seven and wewould literally go through and
use different guitars fordifferent sounds and and what
have you.
But we're sitting here lookingat these guitars and a guy walks
up and he goes uh, what arethose guitars worth?
And I said I don't.
You know, there's a couplehundred thousand dollars there
(13:03):
and the and the guy and youbring those out to make how much
?
And Steve said, well, theband's going to get 600 bucks
tonight.
And the guy couldn't believethat we were going to do that.
And when you go see a band, allthat stuff they're using costs
them money.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
It does.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
All the time that they spent learning how to play
all the gasoline, going back andforth to practice and
everything you giving a band $10and buying a t-shirt for $20 is
huge.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It means the world to them.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
It's huge.
Support live music while youhave it, because it's going to
go away.
I have friends in all kinds ofcommunities where there is no
more live music.
We still have a pretty goodmusic scene.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
We're extremely lucky to have such a good music scene
here, absolutely.
I mean because I've even hadtimes where you know you go out
to visit friends in anotherstate or another city or
something like that, and you,you know you go out to get food
and drinks or whatever and youdon't see any live music walking
through the entire district,downtown or whatever, and I mean
harrisburg, you know, ormechanicsburg you're gonna find
(14:08):
live music somewhere.
Even you know, new cumberland,dillsburg you know, go down to
lancaster.
Oh my god, great music, oh mygod yeah, I can't believe I
didn't mention that at first.
Exactly, lancaster, shame onyou.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I I know get it together, danny not that I care,
I don't mechanicsburg fair butno, I mean no, lancaster is a
good example.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I mean they literally have pianos in the streets, you
know.
So it's it's cool to see thatyou know the communities want to
get, you know that, want tokind of help boost the music
scene.
But where was I going with this?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
back to.
We're skating through subjects.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
That's where I was going to it.
So you know well, like I saidat the beginning of this,
there's there's kind of, youknow, a lot more music now with
technology and then a lot lesslive music, and we've kind of
talked about, you know, peoplenot really wanting to go out and
spend that money.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
People don't get together, they don't get it.
Everybody's doing this.
This is this is your thing andyou know, when I'm up on stage
and I look out, I just count theblue faces and because the
phone makes your face look bluewhen you're on stage and half of
me wants to yell at them andhalf of me wants to kiss them
because at least they came in tosee the band, they can.
(15:13):
If they want to look at theirphone, they can do it yeah you
know, because at least they'rethere.
And you know, without people inthe audience, live live music is
is is really, honestly, theonly difference to a club owner,
the only difference betweenlive music and a brand of beer
or a, a kind of snack orwhatever, is they're going to
(15:37):
spend the money on whateverbrings people in when there's
butts in seats.
Whatever they're doing, they'regoing to keep doing that.
Yeah, so if they have livemusic and they don't have any
other specials and people aren'tcoming out, then they're just
going to go.
Well, live music is not, it'snot paying for itself, and so
you people out there, you needto go see live bands so that we
(16:00):
can continue to entertain you.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
How well, how would you say, we bridge that gap?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
What would you think is a good?
I'm not quite sure, to betotally honest.
I'm not quite sure either.
When technology has beenwonderful I mean, there's just
so much you can do with atelephone now it blows my mind,
because when I was a kid wedidn't have that stuff but it's
also turning everybody into anisolationist.
Um, I'm out riding around on mybike and I can't believe how
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many people, regardless of theweather, have their windows
closed, because what we do ashuman beings is we're in our
house and we have our airconditioning or heat on,
depending on the time of year,uh and and, or we just don't
have the windows open cause wedon't want the wind blowing
through or whatever, and then wego out and we get in our car
and we're in a little bubble andwe drive our bubble to wherever
(16:49):
going and we get into thebubble at work or whatever, and
so we're becoming more and moreisolated.
Yeah and uh, you know peopledon't use public transportation,
they don't.
You know everybody's such anindividual now and, um, in some
ways, social media is is makingthis happen even more so, and so
(17:10):
I know a lot of people thatwould love to come out and see a
band, but since covid, theydon't want to be real close to
somebody.
You know, covid had a hugenegative effect on live music.
It did, and a lot of venuesthat supported live music before
covid are not interested inhaving it back.
Yeah, and so the venues thatare should be supported.
If there's somewhere out therethat has live music, even if
(17:32):
it's a night that they don'thave live music, go out there
and and have dinner there.
Keep those places alive,because, once again, if we don't
support live music in inwhatever way we can, we will no
longer have live music, ofcourse.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I think we've been to your point.
You know, with the, the bubblesand you're driving our bubbles
to work.
We've been conditioned tocomfort at this point through
social media and I think it'sit's going to kind of take.
It's not the answer, but it'syou know, part of it is, you
know, people got to step outsideof their comfort zone and kind
of decondition themselves rightand get themselves feeling.
You know, and I understand youknow health concerns that's you
know.
You mentioned the whole covidthing.
(18:06):
That's.
That's you know, a separatetopic oh but you know, it's just
you know.
I think a lot of people need torealize hey, it's okay to step
outside your comfort zone and gosee live music, go support, you
know, live music.
I don't know how many times.
You know chris hunter and I.
We've been friends for years.
We've just been out and aboutand run into live music.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Sometimes we know the people playing the live music,
sometimes we don't either yeah,we always have the cops asked me
about chris hunter, by the wayoh yeah maybe we shouldn't talk
about that on the air yeah, um,all right, I don't know, did I?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
did you say I don't?
I don't know, chris, who?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
chris williams I said frederick's chris yeah bill
johnson.
Uh, yes, yeah yeah, those arethe guys I was yeah, yeah, I
never even that, bill johnsonthose names that you said, that
I don't even know, yeah exactlythat guy bill.
That guy bill what's hisbrother's name, ben?
Yeah, you gotta watch those tworeal pieces of work telling you
oh jeez.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
So what were we talking about?
Well, we were talking aboutlive music.
But speaking of live music, yes, sir, there is one more thing
we got to talk about your newband.
I have a new band called GrooveRebels.
Yes, yes, tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
What kind of band are you guys playing?
I have a cool band.
For years and years and years Iwas in a band called Grumpy Old
Men and we would play any damnsong.
We didn't care and we wereloose and we had a great time.
And it other musicians came outto see us play and, um, there's
been a band around for yearscalled blitz Steinette and the
(19:28):
singer is Amy Simpson and Amyand I are friends and we've been
talking for a long time.
You know we should worktogether.
Well, grumpy blew up and and Iwas playing with a country band
doing motorcycle festivals andthis, that whatever and Amy and
I started talking and we puttogether this band and uh, we're
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doing uh, it's a departure forme, cause I've always been in
two guitar rock and roll bandsand uh, it's, it's me on guitar
and vocals, Amy on lead vocals.
Trent Pichaka, amazingkeyboardistist.
Uh, people will recognize himfrom uh, well, he's played.
I mean everybody, he's thekeyboard player that you saw.
(20:11):
That you're like holy shit,listen to that guy.
Um, michael giblin on bass andvocals.
Giblin has red chuck studioshere in dillsburg and right now
the vapors are in his studiorecording their new record.
Wow, I just loaned him a bunchof guitars and stuff.
And then on drums, SteveMontresor, amazing drummer,
Steve's in Hot Wing Jones,Giblin's in Split Squad Parallax
(20:35):
Project.
I come from the various bands.
I was in Amy's Blitz.
Trent played with Krypton CityBlues blues review.
I think he did a stint with themiddleton brothers.
I mean, he's just the guytoured japan at 17.
He's in his 40s.
Oh my god it's been around theblock everybody is is reasonably
accomplished at what they do.
(20:55):
And I stand at rehearsal, Ilook around, I'm like I am the
worst musician in this band.
That's where I want to be.
And we're doing like earlyseventies rock and roll small
faces, humble pie, ike and TinaTurner.
I mean all we have to do isjust Amy, amy, amy at a
microphone and and we soundamazing there.
(21:16):
And we're actually we'replaying at the West shore
theater on October 12th andit'll be jelly Bricks and Us.
Okay, and Jelly Bricks are thebest damn band in Harrisburg and
I'll fight anybody that wantsto go up against that.
I love those guys.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
They are the best.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yes, oh, my God so that's going to be a great night
because they did a show withGrumpy at a theater and it was
one of the best nights I everhad.
I love playing with those guys.
They can't be any cooler andthey're different from us.
So you come out to that showand you're going to be
(21:53):
entertained the whole darn time,and I don't know if I'm going
to throw a guitar off the stageinto the audience this time or
not.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Well, if I can make it to that one, I will
definitely be getting the VIPbooth right up front, because
you can do that there at theWest Shore Theater.
You can get a whole table rightup front.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
It's awesome, yep, it is a tremendous venue and
they've been having great shows,and so West Shore Theater, you
know, and we're going to make ita regular thing there, and
support live music.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, yeah, me and Hunter.
Actually, we just went there.
Well, I guess not as recentlyanymore, but yeah, it's a great
place.
Who that?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
guy.
Yeah, that guy Ben Fred.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Fred, fred, fred, fred, yeah, fred, fred, fred,
yeah, okay, yeah, bill.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yes, arnold, yes, the football head.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
We're really, really sticking this.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I think we're good, yeah, we got the coasts clear on
that one.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I'm earning my pay.
I don't know about you.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Wait, you're getting paid.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
That's my point oh man, okay, we got Dr Brent.
No, I'm joking, so got thatcoming up.
Any other shows, any new music?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
well, I have another band, uh, I think we're called
thrive.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Uh, it's myself, you think well, we, we had a
different name okay and wedidn't like it.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
It was four guys, which is short for four guys
that don't have the time or theintestinal fortitude to find an
actual name, that hasn't beentaken by another band and, uh,
it takes too long to put that ona t-shirt.
So, um, I think we're calledThrive now and it's myself,
brian Seneca, who was in Bamboo,igloo and Zero Gravity and
whatever, and everybody knowsSeneca.
He's an amazing singer, amazingguitar player, jeff Stalk, who
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was in Citizen Kane with me backin the day, and Milhouse on
bass, who was in Emily's Toy Box.
So, once again, it's asituation where you got a bunch
of guys that know what they'redoing and we're playing
basically rock and roll hits and, uh, it's pretty good.
And we're, uh, at blue sky onoctober 19th, a week after
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groove rebels at the west shoreokay, man, you're.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
You're my neck of the woods a lot, it sounds like,
and I'd better see you.
Oh, son, what did you say?
That one was a blue sky 19.
I think I have a wedding thatday, but if not, I'll see you at
the west shore theater let'sbreak them up, and then we don't
have to worry about hey, it'snot my family, so tell her about
tell her about what's his name.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Oh, look at him, yeah you know that guy's a mess.
You don't want that really.
Yeah, wow all right.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Well, greg, it's been a pleasure speaking with you is
there, of course.
Is there anything else?
I'm maybe missing that you wantto shout out or no?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
I just want to say that this is an excellent thing.
Um, I I'm I'm very pleased thatthis is going on and that you
guys are doing what you're doing, because anything that helps
the music scene is somethingthat should be supported.
So thank you guys for doingthis.
Thank you for that is are yousupported by bass pro shops?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
um no, it's just a thing I'm going through right
now.
I've been wearing a lot oftheir hats.
I think it frames my face well.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
So yeah, maybe you should go to them and show a
picture you're wearing thatonline.
I should you know.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Hey guys, yeah, some consideration maybe, maybe
they'll let me swing swim in thefish tank.
Finally, oh dude, oh it'scannonball.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Have you ever won?
I mean, I'm telling you, I wantto jump off the upper rock and
just absolutely make the biggestsplash ever, you know if we get
enough people to do it.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
They can't arrest all of us.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Let's go, All right guys.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
That was enough.
We're going to Bass Pro Shops.
No, actually real quick.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I did want to give you a huge shout out See you in
the
Speaker 2 (25:23):
holding.
Yeah, we'll be there with Benand Fred.
Yeah, I want to give you a hugeshout out.
Thank you for the guitar, oh.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I'm going to give you some more too.
Really, yeah, I'm going to getyou some more.
Man Love the sound of that.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, all right, let me know.
We'll make it work Absolutely.
Thanks again so much for yourtime.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
All right brother.
Thank you, Yep.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
As always, another great conversation with Greg
Platzer.
Really looking forward to thenext time.
Stay tuned Up.
Next we got Ben Ginder Group.
We're sitting here with Ben andVinny of the Ben Ginder Group.
Guys, you so much for coming on.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Thank you so much, thanks so much for having us
dude.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, yeah, we appreciate you guys coming out
here tonight talking about your,your music, the local music
community as a whole, so it'sreally exciting, uh.
So I mean, stage is yours.
Let's talk about you guys.
Uh, you kind of defineyourselves as a classic hard
rock group.
Um, you just had drop on, uh,friday, oh my goodness, friday,
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the 13th september, so veryrecently.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
let's talk about that a little bit yeah, sure, so
it's an ep, it's called the getwise ep.
It's three songs, it's reallytwo songs, and then in between
the two of those is sandwichedan interlude, an acoustic
interlude with some guitarharmony on it.
But uh, those two songs aresomewhat of a departure for us.
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The first one is likeborderline speed metal.
It's kind of like crazy that'show I announce it in concert
anyway, just to get people'shopes up prepared for you like
playing that.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Huh yeah, it's like a blend of like I would say like
early 80s like punk, like blackflag, and then you mix in like
the guitars of like iron maidenand like kind of block.
Like I would say early 80s punklike Black Flag, and then you
mix in the guitars of IronMaiden and kind of blend it
together.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
All right.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
It's a lot of fun.
Yeah, it's a lot of fun to play.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Sounds like it gets the crowd amped up a little bit.
Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, that'scool, that's cool.
So I know we kind of talkedearlier off camera.
You kind of don't really wantto pigeon yourself, pigeonhole
yourselves into a certain soundof music.
You've experienced with a lotof different, or uh,
experimented rather with a lotof different sounds.
Uh, can we dive into that alittle bit?
What are?
Where do you guys draw some,some inspirations?
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Where do you plan to go withyour sounds in the future?
What do you?
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4 (27:35):
you go first, man um, I would like, I guess I
probably would say that we drawa lot of our inspirations from.
It's kind of like a like youthrow, we throw like some of our
favorite genres into a blenderand it just kind of comes out,
cause we all, we all appreciatelike all kinds of different
realms of music and it kind ofcomes out in the songs
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themselves.
I like to think like, dependingon if it's like a slower rock
song or a quicker one like a getwise, think like, depending on
if it's like a slower rock songor a quicker one like a get wise
, yeah, like we you can tell,like you know, um, rock is
probably the main, the maindefining thing that brings us
together if you use like oneword for it, right, yeah, yeah,
yeah, like rock.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
So you've kind of almost created this like in the
best way possible music machine,where you guys all contribute
to it and then this machinespits out a sound that you guys
all love and enjoy.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah, um, it's pretty wild.
Like we'll, we'll come to arehearsal and then one of the
guys will bring um.
It usually starts with just asmall like ben will come in and
play something really cool.
I'm like, whoa, hold up, yougotta record that.
Really quick.
We got I play that again,because I I start, then I start
playing over top of it and thenit just it happens and then like
logan, our bass player.
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He'll come up with a couplelines, zach will come up with
some stuff, and then the song isusually almost done by the end
of practice, except for theopposite the lyrics and whatever
.
So yeah, or you can reversethat and and zach will be the
yeah you know the one leadingthe charge it's pretty crazy and
it's it's fun and, like we, weit that formula.
We've been able to releasemusic all year with just singles
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and just stuff like that, justperiodically throughout the year
, and it's just been such a funprocess.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, it sounds like you guys have a great writing
chemistry and it goes to showthat the writing chemistry is so
important in a band.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Without a doubt, yeah .
Speaker 2 (29:18):
So what would you say ?
Speaker 5 (29:19):
your answer is I think what I'll do is sort of
run through what I would callour discography and even before
that.
So I started playing acousticstuff by myself pre-pandemic for
a couple years and I tuned theguitar down way low to C
standard to accommodate my voice, because I like singing.
Some of those Led Zeppelin orwhatever it may be, those rock
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bands that sang in the reallyhigh register Couldn't quite hit
it, so I tuned way low.
So the time came then to startan original music project.
We stuck with that tuning.
We originally had anotherdrummer named Luke Newmaster and
he was rock solid not quite theanimal, uh, that vinnie is at
(30:06):
this point for us, but we put analbum together with him of
original stuff and and he's he'sone of my best friends for of
all time love the guy.
Uh, that album was pretty muchstraight up classic rock and the
only weird thing there was wewere tuned so low that it just
had this weird I was influencedby, you know, down and Sabbath,
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master of Reality.
Even Blackberry Smoke has acouple songs where they tune way
low, like the song, like anArrow.
So then, moving forward fromthere, we continued.
You know, we picked up VinnyLogan's influence, started to
show.
Vinny's influence started toshow.
We got a little heavier, westarted messing around with
keyboards and acoustic, but itall still fell under the classic
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rock sort of umbrella.
But we were going heavier, wewere going lighter there's no
real way to describe it, it'sjust guitar music.
And then the current stuffwe've been doing is the natural
progression from there.
We started incorporatingstandard, because Zach loves
playing in standard our otherguitar player, okay, and he has
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been doing this interestingthing lately where he keeps his
guitar in standard and for songswhere we have to be lower, he
just hits a drop tune pedal,drops it down a couple steps and
, uh, then his guitar is uh, youknow, we're in the same tuning.
So that's pretty cool.
But sorry to go on a long rantno, that's.
(31:33):
That's really cool man that'sthe stuff we want to hear, man.
Uh, so then, the the absolutemost current stuff is just once
again a continuation of we arealways going to be here in the
middle with classic rock andwe're going to go farther one
way and we're going to gofarther the other way, whether
that's pop or metal or maybesome more easy listening
acoustic type stuff, folk,probably.
(31:56):
What we're going to do nextwe're going to record a few
songs in standard and just goback to your real classic rock
core sound, which I think peopleprobably are looking to hear
from us.
But after that, who knows man?
Speaker 4 (32:12):
it's basically like a pinball machine.
It's like we're like flying allover the place.
It's like that sounds cool.
So let's record this.
Yeah, let's do this next and itdoesn't really even matter,
like if it's fast or slow, andit's like, on that, get wise, ep
, that.
Um, we have a song in thebottom called all I want to do
is find the truth, and it's likeseven minutes long.
It's a really groovy rock songand there's a lot you can hear
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the story in it and it there'slike leaps and bounds and then
come, like he was saying, likethere's an acoustic, you know
interlude in there that leadsyou to this final song.
Um, and it's kind of somethingfor everybody in that and it's
it's cool to like hear that backand it's like you know, um,
kind of you leave a stamp ofsound for somebody out there
that can pick it up and be likeoh, this is pretty interesting
(32:54):
yeah, so it's, it's.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
You know it can be music for everybody, but you
don't want to define yourself tosimplicity as well.
It sounds like so, and itsounds saying back to the
chemistry thing that we kind oftalked about.
Uh, you know, you guys have agreat writing process and it
sounds like you were justdescribing it, with the leaps
and bounds in your music.
What is your, your process?
Like you know, are you kind ofmore ballad driven in that sense
, or are you more like what isyour writing process?
(33:17):
Where is your inspirationcoming from?
Not necessarily sound, but, Iguess, meaning.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
So everything for me is based around a riff.
But at the same time you got togo the Tom Petty and Leonard
Skinner school of thought, wherethe song is the words.
So to me those two are thefoundation.
You write a cool riff.
Eventually the words willpresent themselves, a song will
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come out of it, and you have tohave the quality there on both
sides of it for the song tostick around, I think.
How about your process?
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Vinny, yeah, I guess.
For me it's like well, I'm alittle biased, but the drums got
to really cut through.
The drums are kind of like um,not there.
The song can kind of be heavilyaffected, in my opinion.
Production, the production wise.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Yeah, we're getting to a point where I think
everyone's getting a little bithappier with how the drums sound
and how stuff is sounding.
So it's really a testament tohow he plays and just the time I
think we've been putting intoit.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
That's awesome.
Speaking about production ofthe music you just recently
recorded down in Tennessee isright, yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
So we played a show with Scotty Austin who sang in
saving Abel.
We played with him at theTourist Inn.
Chuck from the Tourist Inn hadus on that show.
We were grateful for that.
Scotty liked our sound,introduced us to his producer,
malcolm Springer.
We went down, had some fun withMalcolm in Tennessee last summer
and recorded at Welcome to 1979, which Blackberry Smoke had
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done the stone record therestraight to vinyl.
We didn't do that, in fact werecorded digital.
But we made full use of thefacilities.
Uh, we tracked stuff live andwe did some overdubs.
Uh, and malcolm was was fun man, and what came out of that was
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two of the songs that are reallyour staples right now Back and
the Flame of Love, grown Cold,which we normally just call
Flame.
But Flame may be my favoriteone that we do just because it
sort of has a universal appeal.
And I don't know what it wasabout about those songs, if it's
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where they were recorded, ifit's just something inside them.
But they they do have somethingspecial every time we play them
.
And uh, since then for me it'sbeen a new era of the band,
because before that we didtechnically put out two albums
or two cds, but ever since then,bgg now is from back on.
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Uh, what do you think?
Speaker 4 (36:13):
yeah, um, it's like that recording experience in
tennessee was kind of thecatalyst of like where we are
now, like it gave us so many newideas and like I think what
you're saying about both thosesongs, how like the time, the
place, the atmosphere, thepeople we were around kind of
like helped mold those togetherplus it was all four of us went
(36:35):
down in a truck 12 hours, Ithink it did combine.
I think it was probably like,probably more like fit, like 15
yeah because we stopped a lotand then it was like, um, we
didn't take any toll roads, sowe just took the longest way
gotta hit bucky's on the waydown.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You know we it was.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
No, it's crazy man like we looking back, it's like
that was awesome yeah such acool experience that we actually
were like, we're cool, we'reall cool with driving right,
we're cool driving down thereand this, this distance.
We're like, yeah, let's do it,let's go.
And it's like an experience ofa lifetime, like we recorded in
an amazing studio that literallylooks like it's from 1979, like
you took it right out of a timecapsule and just to see, like,
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like the, the frames on thewalls of all the other bands
that are recorded there, it'sjust just, uh, very humbling
yeah, probably a little surrealas well, real very surreal and
brings you into the moment andyou're like you have to kind of
like remember, like all right, Igotta make sure I remember this
, because this is somethingthat's like what, like it's,
it's, yeah, it's really cool.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Yeah, I.
I do want to go on recordsaying I definitely learned a
lot production wise from thatexperience, because malcolm knew
what he was doing funny guy anduh, and the way the tracks
turned out.
Um, I've been more or lesshanding our production since
then and I've been taking someof the tricks that I heard in
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his production and some of thestuff that worked about it.
I won't say I stole it, becauseI don't want to infringe upon
it.
Not to say I couldn't, you canlearn tricks from people.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I think that's okay, yeah, yeah.
So I mean overall, it soundslike you would say that the
total experience was completelya growing experience of the band
growing, bonding and and uh, alittle expensive, but that's
okay yeah, trips usually getthat way something like that.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Yeah, it was gonna run us a couple pounds, but you
know, yeah, and it was worth ithey, man, it's all about the
experience.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Exactly In the great words of Chris it's just money.
You can always make more right.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Unless they stop printing it.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Then we're kind of uh yeah, it all grows on trees, it
does, it does.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Technically.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Technically.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
If we're getting technical here, so if we're
getting technical here.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
So now other cool things you've been up to.
You just played a party girlwith, uh, brett Michaels.
Yeah, let's talk about that alittle bit.
That's a huge, awesomeexperience.
What was that like for you guys?
Um?
Speaker 4 (38:58):
another, so another really surreal experience.
I was like we um.
First of all thank you to theawesome folks at the central
Pennsylvania music hall of MusicHall of Fame for picking us,
picking our submission, to be apart of this amazing event.
We we get to play in the Hlounge in the casino from eight
(39:19):
to 12.
So we were playing all night, ohmy God.
And it was just like I had.
We went through the curtain andI looked out and I was like
we're playing here.
What I was like I had to likeare you sure it's the right spot
?
And it out.
And I was like we're playinghere.
What I was like I had like areyou sure it's the right spot?
And it's like no, we're hereand it's like man.
It was so much fun and it waslike this just see all those
people dancing and just having agood time to like, and we we
even like threw in a few of ourown tunes to see what would
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happen.
Just people were dancing tothose and they, I guarantee you
like some of them they neverheard before and it was just, it
was just so cool to see thatand again we're very grateful
and to be in that spot and thatopportunity is just phenomenal
for us.
Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I mean it's a show that good music, good people
just brings out good vibes, ifyou want to call it that.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Vibes are good, seriously Exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
So what would you say , Ben?
Speaker 5 (40:09):
I agree wholeheartedly, trying to think
if anything would be differenton my end.
It was cool.
I mean, I definitely structuredit so that when the Bret
Michaels concert goers were letout from where they are, when
they migrated over to us, we putthe heavy hitters I would call
it of our set, those two songs Imentioned earlier, back in
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flame.
I believe those were in thethird set and, uh, like he said,
it was cool to look out and seea lot of people responding to
it, which is something we don't.
We see people respond to themusic, but we don't see that
many of them lately or, uh,usually I should say yeah,
depending on where we play andwhatnot.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
if it's like a place like mickey's or something like
that, a venue we're opening forsomebody, that's when it's like
you really see the impact,that's always a good one.
The whole Party Girl experiencewas fantastic.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
That's great.
You guys have been playing withsome other acts lately Jared
James, nichols, dead Daisieswhat's one of those experiences,
like I mean, there's some greatnames there.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
So yeah, the thing I wanted to mention about Jared
James Nichols was we played forRecord Store Day at the record
store in Kutztown called YoungOnes, which I go to all the time
.
It's definitely one of myfavorites.
I go in the bargain CDs and Itrade some in.
I pick up new ones every time.
But so we played there forrecord store day along with a
bunch of other cool acts, andJared James Nichols and Tuck
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Smith and the Restless Heartswere playing that night at the
Nitro Bar.
So what they did was they hadboth of them come over and the
plan was to do an acoustic setat Young Ones.
But somewhere along the line.
I mean us to do an acoustic setat Young Ones, but somewhere
along the line.
I mean we played our set and wewere loud and obnoxious and
rock and roll, and Jaredresponded to that.
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We have a cool picture wherehe's, like you know, looking in
the door behind us at our set.
And then we were told by Chrisfrom Young Ones that after
seeing that, Jared decided as athree-piece he's going to pull
out the gear and he's going toplay electric too.
And, uh, I believe tuck smithfollowed him.
Then I can't quite remember Ihave have it all on a video but
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yeah, I think I think he wasafter.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Yeah, tuck smith was after, was after jared, and then
they went to they went to nitrobar.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
We went to mike's tavern so we unfortunately
couldn't see that show, but thenwe got got hooked up with Jared
James Nichols again throughBrandon from Big Fan Presents.
That's how we've been getting alot of these bigger shows, like
the Dead Daisies.
Brother Kane, who, damonJohnson, was in Thin Lizzy.
Now he's currently in Skinnered.
He replaced Gary so I got tomeet him.
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That was cool.
Love that band.
Brother Kane.
Dead Daisies was an awesomeexperience.
I believe those are who youmentioned, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
So I mean you guys have been a band.
I believe you guys said whatlike three or not three years
now Okay, so about three fouryears three four years, and you
seem to have accomplished quitea bit in these three four years
now.
What are your goals for thenext three to four years?
Speaker 4 (43:13):
well, I do want to say vinny has been playing since
you were um my first, my firstreal band was in high school so
I guess I was 15.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
He's been playing for a while in other, in other
circles, before he even hookedup with us.
I think probably it's fair tosay we had the most experience.
The other two guys wererelatively younger than us, zach
and Logan and now what they'redoing is they all each have side
bands or other bands, whateveryou want to call it.
Logan plays in Making a Mockery, who is an amazing modern metal
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band.
I believe that's how you woulddescribe it.
Uh, I'm going to their show inoctober at tell us, but um great
venue I forgot the question.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Tell us yeah, great venue, we just played there too
oh really yeah, uh, in late june.
Fantastic, okay, brandon helpedus.
He hooked us up with that onetoo.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yeah, okay, awesome um the question um geez.
No, I forgot what it was ohnext uh, next three to four
years, what do you guys plan tothe future?
You know, uh, you're talkingabout kind of like.
The growth as a band, I think,is where you left off no plans
for me.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
I'm just we're putting as much time and effort
into it as we can and I don'thave a plan.
I don't have any might have aplan.
I'm just speaking for myself,but I'm just seeing.
You know, I I like what whatgreg said over here and how much
he he does for trying to makethe world a better place.
You know, through the music orwhatever it may be.
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I I hope at one point, if I getrich which I would like to that
I can use that you know what Imean that I can, can put as much
money as possible in thingslike he mentioned, that they're
doing and that Bret Michaelsthrows money into.
Maybe we'll get to that in thenext few years, maybe we won't,
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but we'll see.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
Yeah, I guess a lot of hard work.
Continue the determination thatwe have Playing bigger places,
linking up with other bands.
Just keep working hard yeahjust because, like you are your
own, you are your like championin words, like you can go, you
have to be the one you have tobe your own hype man sometimes,
(45:22):
yeah like with what you.
So I would say, just yeah, nextthree to four years, just just
keep.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
We just want to keep working hard and like making new
relationships with people youknow, new connections, new
friends yeah, I I will say foranybody listening, my goal for
us would be that we hop on atour of maybe a band that's a
little bit more established thanus and we sort of steal some of
your fans and we sell some ofour merch.
That's what I'd love.
So if anyone out there likesour vibe, we're open is your
(45:49):
merch available right now.
It is available.
We don't.
We don't have it set up on thewebsite.
If you, if you want merch, justcontact one of us, uh,
instagram, facebook or you canfind my number on the website
and I will get you the merch.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
I'm happy to do that we'll hook you up.
If you're watching this now,all that information is going to
be downstairs down thedescription.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
So check it out there .
Speaker 2 (46:08):
So yeah, yeah, we're gonna get all your information
out there.
Um one question we like a lot.
We like to ask a lot of peopleand musicians.
Um, you know, given that thisis the central pennsylvania
music podcast we're based incentral pennsylvania, focused on
this music community what is itthat you guys think,
individually or as a whole,makes the central pennsylvania
(46:29):
music scene so special?
Speaker 5 (46:31):
well, first of all.
I mean it was I think it wasthree years ago now, but wasn't
really aware of of theorganization and we got.
We either got tagged orsomething happened.
It's like hey we got nominatedfor for best rock band and that
ever since then we we really Imean it helped to boost our
self-esteem.
Let's put it that way.
I felt legit and I felt like wewere noticed.
(46:53):
So, speaking to theorganization, I mean it's
impossible for them to includeevery band.
I know some bands out therethat maybe don't get the
recognition they deserve, buthopefully their time will come,
(47:14):
will come.
But we've been really gratefulfor what the, the central
pennsylvania music hall of fameorganization has done for us,
and then the scene as a whole.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
I guess we're kind of on the maybe the east side of
it, so when we travel into itit's awesome, but but honestly,
we'd like to just become abigger part of it yeah, I think
I definitely agree with that,because a lot of the you know
there's fantastic people in thisscene and like friendliest
musicians and, um, like we'veplayed with a couple different
(47:43):
bands like hot and dangerousyeah, yep, like they're
fantastic.
We've played a couple shows withthem like friendliest group of
people yeah and they're part ofthe scene too and it's just,
it's just so cool to like to tofeel that camaraderie between
musicians, because sometimes itdoes feel like a competition
with with whom, whoever like.
Sometimes you play with somepeople and they're like they
kind of like give you the coldshoulder and it's just, it's
(48:05):
like you know, you thought musicwas like a big family gathering
for people to get together andwhatnot.
But so it's cool to see thatthere's still people out there
that are like that, still thatkind of cherish, that mindset of
like no, it's like let's, youknow, let's talk, let's have a
conversation about like you know, let's go play a show together,
let's do this yeah, we all havethe same end goal.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Let's, let's do this together.
Speaker 5 (48:22):
I think there's room enough for everybody.
I I don't think people need tobe fighting for their time in
the spotlight.
I think we can all coexist atthe same time, you know, yeah.
For lack of a better way to putit.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
I mean, hey, as Greg said, we need more live music.
Yeah, we do.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
Yeah, it can't go away, seriously, yeah, without
live music.
A lot of stuff would cease tofunction, in my opinion.
I agree.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
I think I would cease to function without live music.
Yeah, I think we would justdefunction.
Speaker 4 (48:48):
Yeah, it would be a pretty miserable world.
Yeah, but yeah, live music is,is integral and yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
I certainly agree.
Well, gentlemen, it's been apleasure having you on here.
Is there anything I may bemissed or anything you want to
shout out?
Any tours, upcoming albums,anything like that you want to
announce?
Like I said, we're going to putall your information below for
anybody to click on, but justhappy to be here yeah, thanks
for having us.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
Um, we're actually going to be, uh, next wednesday.
We're going to be audition,doing a kind of what is it like?
An audition thing?
Speaker 5 (49:17):
oh yeah, we're uh, we're doing the house band
competition for 1029 mgk.
My wife works at parks casino,that's.
I don't think that's the reasonwe were chosen to be a part of
it, but there's 12 cut that, cutthat, cut that, cut that, cut
that.
Yeah, now I did say I don't feellike music should be a
competition.
I do feel like there's room foreverybody, but we're going to
(49:42):
try our best here and hopefullywhat's going to happen is all
four bands are just good and weput on a good show because we
got some people coming andthey'll just enjoy it, and I
guess that's the goal really.
Speaker 4 (49:50):
And just have fun and see we can meet some new people
too.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Well, it sounds like you guys are already doing great
things and, after sitting downand getting to talk to you guys,
getting to know yourpersonalities a little bit, I
have confidence that you guysare going to go ahead and
continue to to thrive andprosper.
So, guys, thank you so much fortaking the time.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
Thank Of course, of course I'd love to have you back
.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Got to make sure I get out there and check out one
of your shows one of these days.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Yeah, I'd love to do it.
So, guys, thanks so much andwe'll talk soon.
Speaker 4 (50:16):
Thank you, man.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
All right, everyone.
Well, that does it for thisepisode.
Thank you so much for stickingaround.
We had some great conversationtonight.
Stay tuned for the next one,outro Music.
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