Home Is Where The Art Is

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to a special episode of the Central
Pennsylvania Music Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey guys, daniel here , just wanted to chime in real
quick and give a huge thanks toGift Horse Brewing and Home is
when the Art Is for having us atthis amazing event.
We did film this live so youmight hear just a little bit of
background noise.
Either way, we hope you enjoyit and thank you so much for
tuning in.
Welcome to an on-scene episodeof the Central Pennsylvania

(00:27):
Music Podcast.
I'm your host, daniel.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
And I'm your co-host, Alan.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
We are at Gift Horse Room with Amber and Dan for the
Writer's Round.
Almost did it wrong.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Almost did, almost did.
Really, I'm just talking aboutit.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
So let's talk about what we're doing here today and
what you guys have been doinghere for what three years?

Speaker 5 (00:45):
now correct.
Yeah, Anniversary, third yearanniversary, so Wow.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
So tell me how this started.
First off, actually, let's gowhat is the writers' round?

Speaker 6 (00:54):
So people at home, they don't know it, and then
let's get into how this started.

Speaker 7 (01:08):
So down in Nashville you know it's very normal for
you to do a lot of writersrounds where artists will come
in and there will be about fourartists on stage at a time and
they'll play.

Speaker 8 (01:13):
Each play one song that they've written in a row
and then they'll do that aboutthree times, so each artist gets
about three songs in.

Speaker 7 (01:21):
Then those artists switch and then it's like a
whole new set of artists.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
That's what a songwriter's round is, and we
don't really have that here inPennsylvania, so we wanted to
try to bring the Nashvilleexperience here to.
Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
That's awesome.
I love that.
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:40):
So what sparked that?
Just knowing that it happenedin?

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Nashville.

Speaker 7 (01:43):
How did you so?
We both have gone down toNashville a couple of times just
for different nominations.
I was nominated at the JerseyMusic Awards for a couple of
years.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh, that's awesome.
Congratulations, that's a bigdeal.

Speaker 7 (01:57):
Thank you, yeah, it was fun, and when I'm down there
I always try to play a writer'sround or two to get my foot in
the door in Nashville.
And the more we started seeingthat, the more that it started.
The wheels started turningmostly in his brain more than
mine of like why don't we dothis here?
And I'll let you explain howthat came.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
Yeah, it really started after she was nominated
in 2021 for best female soloartist with cpmas and that was
my first real diving into thiscommunity that we have here and
um welcome yeah, it wasincredible getting to see all
these amazing artists and, youknow, because I'm not a
physician like the closest I amI'm an actor.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Um, it's so still the arts, though.
Yeah, still the arts.
Give credit where it's due.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Yeah, absolutely it's such a different world as well,
and it was just mind-blowing tome.
And as we're leaving, the CPMAsthat year we're driving down 81
, come back down here to NewYork every day.
And I just started kind of likementally going on this rant
until I eventually verbalizedthe whole thing of just like you
know, because that shows ofhers, um, she's been told stuff

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of like you're so good, whyaren't you in nashville?
And stuff like that, and it's agreat compliment and taken by
far yeah, absolutely.
It's a great compliment andtaken as such, but it also got
the wheels turning in my head ofwell, she's so good, why the
heck does she have to leave?

Speaker 2 (03:21):
yeah, doesn't.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
That's a valid point, yeah doesn't this area deserve
great music and yes, it does sothen how do we get great music
to stay?
We support the artists so theydon't feel like they have to
leave.
Absolutely yeah, and that'skind of where it all started
going and that's where home is,where the art is became.

Speaker 7 (03:42):
Oh, we just went full meta.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, I love it, that's that's where home is,
where the art is, became a thing.
Oh, we just went full meta.
I love it.
That's perfect.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Because I was actually wondering where it was,
and you?

Speaker 3 (03:51):
brought it full circle.
That's awesome.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
It was funny because I ended up saying that name as a
joke the one time.
It was cheesy as hell.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
But that's what works .
Now, man, that's what works.
It's so good, it's catchy.
Yeah, that's really good right.
Yeah, that was sillier.
I'm awesome at brewing.
I was so serious when I saidthat.
Don't you dare take that back.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
So you guys had the idea and you made it into an
actual issue.
So how did you get involvedwith Gift Horse Brewing to open
this up?

Speaker 7 (04:21):
So Gift Horse has been our spot, our bar that
we've loved to come to for likejust drinks, hanging out, date
night, stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
She's performed here several times.
I've always been really awesomewith her, so it feels kind of
like a second home.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, again, home is where the art is.
Everybody all together, theartist.

Speaker 7 (04:48):
Everybody all together.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
So yeah, we literally kicked this idea around for a
long while.
We bring it up every couple ofmonths yeah, we should do that
Nothing happens.
And then eventually, we gotserious about it and we were
thinking where can we bring thisto?
And this was the first placethat we thought of with it,
given their track record of howthey were with her and
everything.
So we brought it to theirattention and they loved it.

(05:11):
They supported us right fromthe start.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, that's like the best feeling too, because
you're like hey, man, I havethis kind of wild thought, stop
me if I'm going too far.
And they're like I'm in.
You're like oh cool wasn'texpecting that I'm going too far
and they're like I'm in, you'relike, oh cool.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
wasn't expecting that I'll get a game plan together.

Speaker 7 (05:26):
Here's the keys.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Here's the keys make sure you lock it when you leave.

Speaker 7 (05:30):
No, actually I think that for us I'm kind of an
overachiever.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
So before I even go to somebody with an idea.

Speaker 7 (05:37):
I'm like, alright, let's have this all laid out
first.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
You need to have an operation plan for the business
concept you have a wholerecuperation plan in case it
crashes and they're like no,we're going to redo this.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
That's all I think.
As soon as we get the go-aheadbuttons hit, the whole
corporation pops open and it'sjust out of the box.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
So I don't know if I want to necessarily take the
spotlight from you guys, but I'mgoing to throw it in here,
because I think you guys deserveit.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
I mean, you guys did in fact fact win a Spot Award
recently for what you've beendoing here as well, correct?
Yes, we did.
Last year, we were very honoredto be given the Spot Award for
Best Songwriters Round throughCentral Pennsylvania Music
Awards, and it was incredible.
That's awesome.
Yeah, it blew our minds, and weowe so much of that success to
all the artists that supportedus through all of it.

Speaker 9 (06:24):
We literally can't do it without them.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
We just have to be able to support them and
spotlight them the way that theydeserve to be spotlighted.

Speaker 7 (06:33):
That's awesome.
We've made so many friendsthrough this too, which is
incredible.
Some of our best friends arepeople that we met and booked
here.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
We were talking off camera.
You said first C said the firstCPMH you went to.
You walked into a giant roomfilled with people and you're
like I don't know anyone.
And you said, through thisprocess, you walk in there and
you're like I know everyone.
It's like walking into a roomfull of friends.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
It's crazy because the same thing happened to us.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
I mean we were right there with you, I think the
first year we saw you.
That was our first year thereat the CP Maze as well, and we
were super overwhelmed.
We were just like who do wetalk to?
Like we know we have a schedule, but are there important people
walking past us?
That?

Speaker 7 (07:13):
we should know, you don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Are you going to just bump into the best producer in
the?

Speaker 2 (07:17):
area and you're like oh sorry, dude, that's the best
thing, though you don't know.
But you don't know, it doesn'thurt you.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
It's true, because then you just go for it.

Speaker 9 (07:24):
Yeah, exactly Like.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
oh, I'm not nervous to talk to this Emmy winner
producer.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Oh, you want how many Grammys, oh, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
No, it's fine, and they're like 17.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
And you're like cool, so what's your favorite drink?
Let me buy you one.
How about that local sportsball?

Speaker 3 (07:44):
team Weather's weathering, isn't it?
Yes?

Speaker 7 (07:47):
You just lose all brain cells instantly.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
But that's awesome.
You guys already won a spotaward two years in, so I've got
to ask where do you guys seethis in five years?

Speaker 5 (07:57):
All over Honestly we've got a lot of stuff in the
works right now of ways that wecan build just beyond what we're
doing here, ways that we canbranch out, help the artists out
in other ways.
As part of it, like I wasmentioning to you guys, we have
another style of this going onat the Susquehanna River

(08:19):
Creative Conspiracy on February6th, where it's songwriters in
the round, so we're excited topresent that as another way to
showcase the artists.
Last year we had our very firstmusic festival and we're looking
to expand off of that.
That's awesome, so it's big.

Speaker 7 (08:37):
We're also looking to find ways to help the artists
become more well-known for theirmusic instead of playing just
cover songs.
We want to eventually get it tothe point where people are
wanting to book the artists tocome in to play their music and
not cover songs.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
That's better for the bar businesses because I know
you can run into some problemslegally with royalties and stuff
like that, when you're doingcover songs and a lot of bars
are trying to get away from it,like they don't have the capital
getting away from the coverbands and stuff like that.
So yeah, I'm all for bringingpeople in.
I mean, overall, everyone lovesa good cover every now and then
Absolutely.

Speaker 9 (09:14):
But I mean, yeah, I think cover bands have kind of
taken the stage for a long timetoo.

Speaker 7 (09:18):
It's like, hey, I mean, if you think about it,
like Taylor Swift, you know,luke Bryan, all of the big names
.
They were once all at our leveland they made it.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
And Taylor Swift came from essentially central PA.

Speaker 7 (09:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
The names you can list from this area.
We've done it many times.
I'm not gonna do it again.
It is wrong.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
Yeah, it's incredible and knowing that through our
doors like.

Speaker 7 (09:55):
I was saying to you guys, I think we've had over 50
different musicians come throughour doors.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
Like with the Songwriters Round over the two
years as we go into our thirdyear now who's going to be that
next?

Speaker 10 (10:07):
Taylor Swift.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
Who's?

Speaker 4 (10:08):
going to be that next Bret Michaels?

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Yeah, you know stuff like that.
And that's where it all startsBecause, like you said, cover
songs everybody wants to hear agood cover song every now and
then, Absolutely After the fivehour time of Wagon Wheel
sometimes.
That's why you continue todrink.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
I love that you picked Wagon Wheel just out of
the air.
I was like that was a very goodreference.

Speaker 7 (10:27):
It's so true, though that's like the main one that I
just I personally can't stand itanymore.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
You're burnt out from it.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
This next one's called Freebird.
Everyone's like please don't.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
It's.
You know, but back in the daythat song song was that one that
everybody ignored at the bar.
It was the one that was likewhen they played it, people went
to the bathroom.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
They went back to their conversation Like, oh, it
doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 (10:50):
It's their song, whatever.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
And that's what we're trying to break, because you
never know what's going to bethat next one.
That's absolutely true.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
So let me ask you this then.
I mean, you guys got 15 artiststhat have already come through
the doors.
How 50 artists that havealready come through the doors?
How do people get in contactwith you?
How do people get involved withthis?

Speaker 5 (11:06):
How do people play here?
I mean, I'm not, I don't meanthis as an insult, I mean it as
a compliment, but quote MatthewMcConaughey.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Those are rookie numbers.
We've got to bump those numbersup.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
We've got to get this .

Speaker 5 (11:16):
It's exactly right.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Exactly right.
So how do they get in contactwith?

Speaker 5 (11:20):
you.
We have numerous ways.
You can reach out through ourInstagram HomeIsWhereTheArtIsPA.
You can reach out through ouremail setup.
We have a submission form thatwe have linked in through our
website.

Speaker 7 (11:38):
You can find all of our information at
HomeIsWhereTheArtIsPAcom.
That'll take you to ourInstagram, our Facebook.
The submission form is rightthere.
If you're an artist and youjust want to submit, you can do
that and we will get in touchwith you.
It's not really a matter of, ifit's usually a matter of when,

(12:01):
because we like to includeanybody like this is for what is
it?
You always say, this is for itcould be.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
This could be your very first gig, right?
Ever, or you can be TaylorSwift and you could get
something out of this,absolutely, and we've had people
come to the stores where youknow several people.
It's their very first live gigever.
I think.
What actually?
Because of what was announcedyesterday?
One of the coolest things forme is, seven hours ahead, their

(12:29):
band that just got nominated forBest New Band, their very first
live performance, was with us.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
That's awesome and they killed it.

Speaker 7 (12:37):
They did, yeah, they killed it.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
I'll have to check them out.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
The first time they were with us it was just a duo
their guitar player.
He got stuck.
He's in the military.
He got stuck.
He had the words that couldn'tcome up in play.
I understand that, yeah, so itwas the duo and they killed it
and then so we had them back.
We had that last May and thenwe had them in September as our
headliner Full band and theyjust rocked the house.

(13:04):
So it's awesome seeing thatgrow and that's what this is
about the community supportingand seeing them grow 100%.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Well, I mean, I just want to say thank you, guys, for
including this in this, thankyou for inviting this into your
little home, where the art is.
I just had to do it one moretime, and you're very welcome.
Thank you again.
We look forward to seeing howthis all plays out.
Tonight We'll have more artists, yeah, at least it's going to
be a blast.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Yeah, awesome.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
We're here with Ruddy Turnstone, solo artist here in
Newark PA.
Oh, I guess are you from NewarkPA.
I should have cleared that up.

Speaker 8 (13:37):
I used to live in Newark but I live in Middletown.
Now I'm in some of theHarrisburg area.
Okay, very cool.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, all right, cool , well, hey, thank you so much,
first of all, for doing aninterview with us.

Speaker 8 (13:46):
Of course, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Of course, we just had the opportunity to watch
your live performance.
You nailed it up there.
That was great Thanks.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Very tactfully broke the guitar string without anyone
knowing, until you saidsomething, at least from back
here you guys didn't know.

Speaker 8 (14:01):
I did not know until you said something.
So I was like well played sir.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
You covered that up very well.
So how did you get involvedwith this man?
And tell us a little bit aboutyourself.
What is your music career?

Speaker 8 (14:12):
How has this started?
So I've been doing the RuddyTurnstone thing since 2021.
Prior to that, I had anothersolo project when I was living
here in York called Jasper theTourist.
But I kind of changed my soundand rebranded when I started
doing the Ruddy thing and thenway back when I played bass and

(14:35):
sang in bands like alt-rockbands.
I lived in Virginia for a whileand I sang in a post-hardcore
band down there.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Hey, my bread and butter yeah.

Speaker 8 (14:48):
But I've been doing the solo thing for a while but
I've kind of turned the ReadyTurnstone project into as much
of a collaborative thing as Ican, because I don't have a band
and I like to scratch that itch.
So I'm always reaching out toother artists when I go to
record to do a guest feature ona track or if people can come

(15:10):
sing with me live or back me upinstrumentally or whatever.
I just really enjoy doing thatand it kind of gives me that fix
.
It just creates more communityand it's just fun that's awesome
.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
I feel like only musicians understand that when
you say like that itch, it'slike musicians understand that,
because I'm like yeah, dog, thatthat itch is real, yeah, yeah
it is, and then you know, likeas a solo acoustic dude, which
there's tons of them as you know, there's no shortage um, you
know, I don't want to be clicheeither, so I try to keep it as

(15:43):
interesting I can, and, you know, by bringing other people in to
do their thing and add theirtouch.

Speaker 8 (15:48):
I think it just it does you know, kind of like make
it a little bit moreinteresting.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, I think, like at worst case, just you know
working with another anotherartist always brings out more
creative flow, and maybe youlearn something from it.
You know you always get betterevery day.
It doesn't matter how longyou've been playing for, so I've
always liked to play with otherartists myself.
So, yeah, that was really cool.
I mean it takes.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
It takes nerve, I mean, when you're up there by
yourself and everything.
Man, I always have respect forthe local uh, like acoustic
people that can do that Causelike I paying to come and hear
me sing acapella at a bar andlike I would never have the
nerve to do it.
So it's like I only got thestrength through my bandmates.
So I understand that whole likehaving the camaraderie and

(16:28):
having other people be there.
So I mean that's awesome, man,like good for you for like
having that courage and thattalent to be able to get out
there and do that.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Man, thanks thanks, of course.
So what has been one of yourfavorite parts of switching from
being with a band to being asolo artist now?

Speaker 8 (16:42):
um, I mean it's obvious it.
It has its pros and its cons.
I mean, obviously there's justless.
It's less of a headache, youknow, because you don't have to
worry about personalities andschedules and everything like
that.
I mean it's.
I have actually tried to turnthis project into a full band
before.
It just never really fullyworked out, mainly because all
the bassists and drummers that Iknow are in like five other

(17:02):
bands the curse of being in aband 100 percent um so, but
that's why I kind of likestarted doing it like more of a
collective um.
But yeah, I mean I can kind ofjust do things at my leisure, at
my pace, really withoutworrying about um what anybody
else has and it was a baritonetype of instrument at all.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
So, owen, that's awesome.
I mean, that's cool.
What do you think about havinga dad that's a musician?
Good, it's really good.

Speaker 8 (17:30):
Is it really good.

Speaker 10 (17:31):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
That's like the coolest interview we've had.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
I mean no disrespect, man, but that's just awesome.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
That's so cool.
So where do you see yourselfgoing here in five years?
Then, man, with your music,what's the projection?

Speaker 8 (17:44):
here.
I mean, you know, I'm notgetting any younger.
I was told by a producer yearsago with one of my bands that if
you don't make it by the timeyou're 26, you're toast.
I've long passed that point.

Speaker 6 (17:56):
Same, I mean.

Speaker 8 (17:56):
I'm not necessarily in it, for I'm not chasing fame
or anything like that in it, forI'm not chasing fame or
anything like that.
The greatest thing that beingpart of this music scene has
brought me is like I wouldn'thave any friends if it wasn't
for going out and playing music.
I understand that and it's justgoing to open mics, going to
shows, going to other people'sshows, networking with them and

(18:18):
playing shows with them, and Ihave a massive, massive social
and friend network now that isinvaluable all over the state.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
It's true.

Speaker 8 (18:29):
And it takes me on cool adventures.
I get to travel and do awesomethings, so really I'm happy with
that.
I know I'm not going to be richand famous, and that's fine,
but it would be cool if youcould do that and have benefits
Right.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
It would Totally, totally.

Speaker 8 (18:46):
I mean I'm getting that passive streaming income of
fractions of a?

Speaker 3 (18:49):
cent.
It's like inventing my owncryptocurrency, but it has no
following Right.
Right Hasn't hit the market yet.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
It hasn't hit the market yet.
Well, thank you so much forgiving us the time to speak with
you.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
It's been a pleasure?

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Where can people find your music and come see you
live?
Where are some of your localplaces?

Speaker 8 (19:08):
Sure.
So my music is on all streamingplatforms.
I have three albums, twocollaborative EPs and a couple
singles Wow.
And then my band camp page isjust ruddyturnstonesongscom.
And then there's other linksthere too to take you where you
need to go.
As far as shows go, let's seeIn the next couple weeks so Home

(19:34):
is when the Art Is is going tobe doing an event at the
Susquehanna River CreativeConspiracy.
It's another songwriter's round, but we're doing a ticketed one
this time, so they asked me tobe a part of that.
So I'll be doing that onFebruary 6th, along with Jess
Boyer, matt Tarka and MarshallStone, and then the following
day I'll be going up to Hazletonto play a show that was

(19:57):
organized by the Hazleton ArtLeague.
I have a buddy up there, tedHazard.
He does.
He does folk punk stuff.
He booked this show, but it'sattached to a tattoo convention
as well.
I think it's going to be a widevariety of alternative piano
backs.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (20:17):
That's what I got lined up for next month.
Sometimes I'm not doing as manybar and winery gigs these days.
Once in a while I'll play likethe the that country club in the
Red Lion area.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Oh, you lost me there .
Yeah, I don't know the Red Lionarea very well, yeah and I can,
I'm drawing a blank on the name.

Speaker 8 (20:37):
It's owned by the same people who own the white
pros um oh yeah, bridgewateryeah bridgewater yeah.
Bridgewater public house, yeahyeah, so I think I'm there
either next month or thefollowing as well very cool um
and I I do hop around open micsum when I don't have the dude
here and just because that's agood opportunity to see all my
friends under one roof yeah,absolutely, so I go to the srcc

(20:59):
quite a bit for um their eventsand open mics and I try to hit a
different one every week too,and right now I'm doing a lot of
behind the scenes recording andcollaborating and writing.
So come springtime, a bunch ofnew releases solo and collabs
will be coming out.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Very cool, dude, you are just crushing it All right.
I got one more quick question.
It's going to be a quick firebefore we let you go, someone
that's been doing this all overthe place, and everything.
What's one piece of advice,invaluable advice, that you
would give to other musicians?

Speaker 8 (21:33):
I would say don't try to be influenced by what you
think is going to sell orwhatever.
Just do your thing.
Stay true to yourself and yourwriting style and whatnot, and
don't get too hung up on makingit because honestly, I feel like
unless you're Drake or TaylorSwift, the chances of you

(21:54):
breaking in millions are prettyslim.
That's just the way theindustry is nowadays.
A lot of my friends who tourconstantly, like Apes of the
State, for example, they'rebreaking even.
They do great on streaming andthat's awesome, but I can't
really tour non-stop.
So I say, don't get too hung upon that stuff.

(22:17):
Make the music you want to make.
The key is to find your audienceand the internet can be helpful
for that, especially for veryniche genres.
There are ways to find youraudience and the internet can be
helpful for that, especiallyfor very niche genres.
There are ways to find youraudience and there's a lot of
tools out there.
There's also a lot ofopportunistic companies and
whatnot.
I think that try to takeadvantage of artists' hunger and

(22:41):
get your money.
So you've got to be carefulabout, like, what resources
you're using and whatnot.
But yeah, just find your niche,find your audience and you'll
be golden dude, love it,priceless man.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yes, it was a pleasure having you on man.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Thank you guys, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
You bet pleasure meeting you, thank you and I
appreciate you hey, nice meetingyou, man you too, you Keep
playing that ukulele You'rereally good, that's cute.

Speaker 8 (23:10):
They do great on streaming and that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
But you know, I can't do it so.

Speaker 7 (23:17):
I say don't get too hung up on that stuff.
Make the music you want to make.

Speaker 8 (23:21):
The key is to find your audience, and the internet
can be helpful for that,especially for each genre.
There are ways to find youraudience.
And there's a lot of people outthere.
There's also a lot ofopportunistic companies and
whatnot.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
I think that try to take advantage of artists'
hunger and get your money.

Speaker 8 (23:45):
So you gotta be careful about like what
resources you're using andwhatnot.
But yeah, just find your niche,find your audience and you can
go.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Dude, priceless man.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
It was a pleasure having you on man.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
Thank you so much for this time, man.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 7 (23:59):
Pleasure meeting you.
Thank you, I appreciate you andnice meeting you, man.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Thank you so much.
You bet Pleasure meeting you.
Thank you, I appreciate you.
And nice meeting you, man.
Thank you.
Keep playing the ukulele.

Speaker 8 (24:08):
Yeah, good job.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
We are still here at the writer's round, and now we
are interviewing Juliet Juliet.
Thank you for having the timeto come and talk to us.

Speaker 10 (24:15):
Oh my gosh, Thank you for having me.
Yeah, I'm so excited to bedoing this.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
You're very to be doing this Very welcome, so tell
us about yourself.
Who is Juliet, what is Juliet?
What is Juliet's story?

Speaker 10 (24:25):
Yeah well, I'm a 17-year-old singer-songwriter.
I'm from Lancaster, PA, so justright around here and I started
playing piano at four years old, so that was my sort of
introduction into music, and noone in my family does music at
all, all so it was sort of justlike piano lessons or something
you do, and then I fell in lovewith it and in fifth grade I

(24:49):
just started on my own writingsongs just for fun.
And then I started taking voicelessons in sixth grade and I
sort of realized, like I lovemusic, I want to do this, and so
I always loved being, like, uh,in the spotlight.
I kind of like attention, whichis a good thing, I guess.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
But um, it works for the career choice type of thing
um so I just started.

Speaker 10 (25:13):
I would look up restaurants in the area and I
would like go in their websitesand deep dive and find the
manager's email.
I was in like sixth, seventhgrade.
I would email them and say, canI come play and sing?
And I'd play the piano and singsome songs.
Um, I'd sing at my school allthe time at talent shows.
I got into a little bit of likemusical theater and I just kept
building on it.
Eventually I went to nashville,then I went to new york and

(25:35):
then someone found me and thispast year I got assigned to a
management company in la.
So I've been there a lot andit's just been like oh my God,
Wow, congratulations, thank you.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Guys the show Hard Work pays off, yeah, and you
also.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
I mean, you just found out tonight here on
location you were actuallynominated for this upcoming CPMA
.

Speaker 10 (25:53):
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
How crazy is that feeling.

Speaker 10 (25:56):
Yeah, I mean it's crazy.
I have never been beennominated for any sort of award
before or anything.
And um, when I I've seen theshow on, you know, heard about
the awards on instagram andstuff, but I have some new music
coming out this year, so I waslike I'll just do it next year
when I have my new stuff, I likedidn't even think I'd get like
nominated anyways, so I didn'tlike submit myself or anything.

(26:18):
And then I'm here tonight andthey're like congratulations,
I'm getting nominated andnominated and I'm like for what
that's awesome, so it was soexciting.
Yeah, I can't wait, it'll be sofun.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
So you're going to be there this year then, oh, yes,
I will.
Awesome.
I mean it's going to be in yourneck of the woods too, because
it's actually going to be inLancaster this year.
Yes, awesome.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, a lot of new things, you know.
And it's also going to bringout another crowd, you know,
going closer to another area.
You know it's a little bit of adrive for some people because
you know we have a large areathat we encompass.
We do, I think it's going tobring out a lot more people.

Speaker 10 (26:51):
Yeah, no, I'm excited and something I realized
actually after I was looking,because what?
I'm 17, so I couldn't be ayouth artist next year when I'm
18, I don't think right, no,nope.
So yeah, so that was nice Kindof worked out well.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Dude, you just slid right in there at the finish
line.

Speaker 10 (27:10):
You just stole the base Totally.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
That's awesome, that's awesome.
Thank you thanks.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
So, you're signed to a management company out in LA.
Now, yeah, looking like for youfor the next five years.
What's the?
What's the?

Speaker 10 (27:21):
next plan?
Um, yeah, so I started.
That happened over the summer,so I was like I'm just going to
do online school this year.
So I've been traveling around alot and I'm a senior in high
school right now, so I've beentraveling around a lot doing
that and the my manager is great.
His name's mandy meharas andhe's worked with a lot of great
artists and um, so he just sortof facilitates like performances

(27:43):
.
I performed at the um universalcity walk in hollywood in the
middle of time square.
Um, they set up like a stageand I just like performed for
this like tv show thing, sostuff like that.
What?

Speaker 3 (27:55):
time square.
I just, I just, I just set up astage for me in the middle of
time Square.
That's a TV show thing, noteven a big deal guys Like it's
not even a big deal.

Speaker 10 (28:06):
No, it's like it sounds.
I mean, it is really great,like it sounds really glamorous,
but it's like you know, I don'tknow I'm really happy for it.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
And I'm sure even at your young age and everything
I'm still sure it's probably itcan get exhausting at times too.
Trying exhausting at times too.
It's about trying to manageschool, trying to manage chasing
your dream and everything likethat.

Speaker 10 (28:23):
But I mean but it's been great.
I'm the type of person where ifI'm like not busy and like go,
go, go, then I'm like not happy,so like I love to just be busy.
So yeah, but anyways, I'mworking on an EP right now five
songs.
I went to Nashville and wrotethem in September and then I did
the vocals for them in LA inthe end of November, and then

(28:46):
next week I'm going back to LAto do photos and a music video
for them, and then I'm goingright from LA to Nashville to do
my own thing.
But then hopefully they'll bereleased soon.
So yeah, oh my that is crazy.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Thank you, I'm sorry.
When can we expect the EP?

Speaker 10 (29:05):
I crazy I'm sorry what can?
We expect the.
Ep I can't really say yetbecause they're not totally
finished, but I mean definitelywithin the next year.
I would say before the end ofsummer would be my goal, because
I've already written my nextalbum to do after that, so I
want to keep things moving.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
So when she is on stage at the Grammys getting a
grammy and everything I'm gonna,we're gonna be like we
interviewed her first weinterviewed her first.
We had her on our podcast and Ihope that for you I really do.
Thank you thanks.

Speaker 10 (29:36):
That means a lot and I mean I am totally like I just
love music, I love the process,every aspect of it, and I think
, like in any way, that I can bea part of music.
You know, I'm like obviously Ilove to share with as many
people as possible, but, um, Ithink the thing that kills like
the real art is when you're sofocused on the numbers and the

(29:57):
uh, the success that's likequantifiable.
I think what you really need islike the, the quality of it,
and just like the connectionwith an audience.
Like I have as much connectionin this room with like a few
people as I did in times square.
You know, I just I enjoy it thesame.
So, um, that's great.
I'm going to belmont universitynext year in nashville to I'm
majoring in commercial music andminor in illegal studies.

(30:19):
So after four years, if itdoesn't, if music isn't my only
career option, then I'll be anentertainment lawyer.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
So yeah, that's still awesome, okay, so I was
literally going to ask you hey,what's your piece of advice from
someone that's been assuccessful at your age and
before, I could ask that rewindlike 35 seconds and just listen
to all of that, and that's apretty solid plan, yeah.

Speaker 10 (30:45):
I mean, you know again, like when you're talking
about all this stuff it soundslike super glamorous and
everything, but it really is.
There's still so much work tobe done.
I can still improve so much.
And yeah, I mean it is.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
And it didn't just fall into your lap.
This came because you put theeffort in.
And that's what people need tounderstand Like this came from
blood, sweat and tears and, I'msure, probably lack of sleep as
well.

Speaker 10 (31:11):
So like A lot of like yeah, a lot of like red
eyes and performing the nextmorning and stuff.
But I mean it's been great andthe thing about that actually is
like when I started singing Iwas not good at all Like I have
a demo.
My dad's friend actuallyhappened to have a studio in his
house and I recorded a demo ofmy very first song I wrote I was
in sixth grade and it soundsterrible, like absolutely like

(31:34):
off-key.
I don't think anybody's firstsong is great I was so nervous
but I was like really not a goodsinger at all.
I was kind of good atsongwriting but I just like
practiced all the time.
Like my family will tell youthey were like it was terrible
for them but I was singing inthe car at all throughout the
house.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Juliet, please, please, just five minutes please
, oh, yeah, totally yeah.

Speaker 10 (31:56):
So I sing all the time I wrote.
I've written over 200 songs nowlike just come, like practice
that's the thing.
Like talent is great, but thework ethic is really what's
going to get you there.

Speaker 9 (32:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
I don't think I really have anything else for
you.
You're ahead of us, yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
I think the only thing I'd like to do is wish you
good luck, man I wish you thevery best.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Thank you, guys, and thank you for taking the time to
talk to us.
Of course, the very best.
Thank you for taking the timeto talk to us.
Yeah, and you know, don'tforget, you know good old york
whenever you make it.

Speaker 10 (32:26):
Oh my gosh, no, I'll be.
I'll definitely be back hereplenty of times, but thank you
guys for having me I mean it'sso fun.
Well, if you guys want tofollow me and my journey, you
can look me up on instagram it'sjuliette's underscore music, so
it's j-u-l-I-E-T-S underscoremusic, and on TikTok it's
julietl7.
And you know it's a long video,so we'll talk a little more

(32:50):
about it.
But yeah, but I have my bio.
Like all of my music is there.
Follow me on iTunes.
Follow me and I'd love toconnect with, like everyone who
comes across my music.
So, thank you so much.
See you at the awards.
Follow me and I'd love toconnect with everyone who comes
across my music.

Speaker 6 (33:03):
Thank you so much, thank you.

Speaker 10 (33:07):
Yes, thank you, and thank you to the Central PA Hall
of Fame too.
They provided so manyopportunities for me, from
performances and awards.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
That is the craziest thing I've ever had.
Right before I went on stage, Iwas like oh my gosh it's insane
.

Speaker 10 (33:22):
I don't want to say anything but you're welcome.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
I found out right before I went on stage.
I was like, oh my gosh, likeit's insane.
So thank you guys, I don't wantto say anything but you're
welcome.

Speaker 10 (33:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Alex single-handedly did all of it.

Speaker 7 (33:29):
It was all me.
It was all me, but seriouslylike thank you guys.

Speaker 10 (33:33):
And just be nominated, no matter what
happens.
It's like such a blessing we'rehere for you guys.
Yes.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Thank you, you too.
Yeah, let's hear some moregreat music, and we're still at
the writer's round, and here wehave Milo, also known as
Featherburn.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, my band is called Featherburn.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Oh, your band is known.
Okay, I thought you were a soloact with all this because you
were just killing it up there byyourself.
You're bringing all the energyof an entire act by yourself,
man.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Right, but gosh, my band is so good too.
Oh, now I have to check out therest.
Yeah, I gotta go check out thewhole band.
I gotta check out the wholeband.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
So for all of you that did not get to see this,
Milo shredded the accordion, so,Milo, please tell us all about
yourself, Okay.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
I mean accordion's coming back into style.
We all know that.
Right, I didn't know it wentout.
I mean, I think it's comingback into style.
We're working hard anyway.
We're working hard Not just onthe polkas.
Right, Polkas are cool, butwe're trying to do some other
things too.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
We had the whole venue in here clapping and
stomping.
I literally looked at Danny.
I was like dude.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
I wish I was on a boat right now and then, Chris
is like with a funny hat so wecan search for treasure.
I was like I'm all about it.
It was like Taking Back Sunday.
If they had an accordion, yeahGreat, I'm going to check out.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Taking Back Sunday.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
I hope you get the reference.
Imagine the accordion.
Yeah, why don't you listen tothem?
I hope you see what I see.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, okay.
So I directed, I wrote, I wasasked to write some music for a
play that, like, the script iswritten and the task of the
director is to find a composerto write music to these songs,
these lyrics in the play.
It was called Mother Courageand Her Children.
It's a Brechtian play, right?
So I said, sure, I'll do it.

(35:23):
What kind of music do you want?
And the director said I wantgypsy punk music.
Now, gypsy punk or gypsy is likeactually a racial slur now, and
I, you know, we're learning andwe're growing, so like I
apologize to any of you outthere that it might be heavy on
right, but anyway, that's whatshe asked for.
And she turned me on to Gogol,bordello, to Tom Waits, to the

(35:44):
Decembrists, to the band Beirut,and I went and I took apart
these songs and I wrote theseyou know lyrics to this music.
I wrote music to the lyricsthat were in the play and then,
after the play was finished,running the band, we liked each
other so much that we justdecided to keep on playing, but

(36:04):
the accordionists were gigging,they were busy.
So I was like, well, hell withit, I can do that.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
So I asked my dad for my birthday.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
He had an accordion in his antique room and I was
like, can I have that for mybirthday?
And he finally gave it to meand then within a couple of
months it was like, the more youpractice your accordion, folks,
the more opportunity that comesyour way because of it.
I promise, oh, I believe thatthat is awesome.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
It's like playing a sit-down steel guitar.
You know, or wait, not steelguitar.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
It's just like playing a steel guitar, yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
I love, my love.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Oh my God, I can't tell if he's serious or he's
messing with me.
I love it.
Keep him in the middle of mytoes.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
So you organically just ended up like you were
playing with this band.
And then you're like, hey, weshould just be the band.
And you were just like, let'sjust do this on the outside now.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Well, that lasted about three months.
And then I found myself like ona tour.
Like since I played theaccordion, I got an audition for
this good part on like anational tour of a play and I
went around the country and Iwas like learning the accordion
but I didn't even get to playbecause I sucked.
So they found a ringer thatcould play and they liked the
way I sang.
So I sang for this show, thisnational tour, and then when I

(37:24):
came back, like I landed inLancaster and I was like, well,
I got to do something, I'm goingto try and find a band.
And then I wrote a, I put apost on Craigslist, I know you
guys all saw it For months.
It was crickets, right, nothing.
None of you guys wrote me.
And then finally, like monthslater, there was a guy that
wrote from Pottsville,pennsylvania, right, his name

(37:44):
was Tim Jenkins and he he saidhey, milo, I saw your email, I'm
interested, give me a callsometime.
He, they lived up in Pottsville, it was an hour and a half
drive, but I met up with this.
Like Tim and his, his cohortbass player, um, had played up

(38:05):
and down the east coast in likecover rock, cover bands for 10
years, so they were like alocked deadlock rhythm section
and they found this awesome,awesome guitarist and we formed
featherburn and it was like itwas alchemy.
You know this.
They were rock players, theywere like pink floyd, they were,
yes, they were um, uh uh, ledzeppelin, you know like all
those rock tunes and it was justlike like there was an alchemy
and they helped me form thesongs.

(38:27):
So that's sort of where we drewfrom, and those guys are not
part of the band.
Tim died of cancer some yearsago.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Oh, I'm sorry for your loss.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Thank you.
Thank you, we still play.
I've been through lots and lotsof players, but we play now as
Featherburn here in Lancasterand in York and all this stuff.
We just released a new album.
No one cared to nominate it forthe awards, but that's okay.
I forgive you, but you couldcheck it out.
It's called Camp and it wasbased on when Tim was in the

(38:55):
hospital getting his treatments.
I was like dude, what do youwant to record?
What do you want to make whenyou get out, when you, when
you're, when you're healthyagain?
and he said I don't know camp sothat's the album, right, you
can check it out.
You go to any any streaming uhplatform and you can listen to
camp, and it was sort of basedon uh, I don't know that that
was the impetus, and we have afestival every year now we were

(39:17):
two years running.
Actually it's in marietta, it'scalled cam featherburn, so you,
you can check it out inSeptember.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
I think I actually did see a flyer for that this
year.
I should have checked it out.
Make sure to check it out thisyear, then.
When is it?
It's in September.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I forget the date this year, but it's like the
weekend after Labor Day is whenwe've fixed it up.
So we still have to plan it andeverything.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Intentional.
Intentional that is the wordthat I would use to describe
Milo.
He is intentional, I love ithe's like yeah, you should have.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
It's so good so.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Milo where do you see yourself in five years now with
this music and everything?
Is there anything that we canlook forward to coming up?
I know you just talked aboutCan't Feather Burn and
everything.
Any other works in the process.
You know works working on.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Okay, I want to write a few EPs.
I wrote my first polka someyears ago called Polka Eyes,
after a gig, my first polka gigafter the pandemic.
I went down to southernVirginia and played this gig and
this woman had the polka eyes.
Well, you just have to hearthis song.
I want to write uh, uh, therest of the album called polka

(40:25):
eyes, after, like some cover,cover songs of polkas, and I
want to put that song in there.
And then I have another songcalled bicycle city, that that
that uh is really just inspiredby like bike culture and like
saving the planet, and I want towrite, uh, you know five song
ep on that.
So that's, that's what's next.
And we worked hard on on camp.
So, like, I really do encourageyou to.
It's got lots of stories, it'sgot levity, it's got um, I'm

(40:47):
definitely going to you knowlike darkness.
It's got light, it's got allthis stuff in there.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Uh, so it's a full immersive Love, that Dude, that
is so cool, you have got to beone of my favorite people I've
ever interviewed.

Speaker 8 (41:03):
Just because of your energy, your whole thing, I love
Milo.

Speaker 9 (41:08):
The dance moves are cool, I love.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Milo.
You know what Milo?
2028.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Milo for president 2028.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
I'm for it.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Milo, so I just completely lost you he
completely throws us off.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
He does.
I'm not used to that, I'm offmy game.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
I'm off my game, so how long have you been playing
the accordion?

Speaker 1 (41:29):
now, now for about 13 years off and on.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
What is something about playing the accordion?
Somebody who doesn't know butis interested in playing should
know.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
I think the biggest thing that I've learned is that
it's super, super versatile.
It's in so many cultures.
People I don't know the peoplethat I know associate it with
polka, but there's accordion inMexican music, there's accordion
in Spanish, there's Frenchaccordion.
It's all over the world.

(42:00):
So it's just like it's.
It's weighed in there.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
You know, like I didn't know it was so versatile
when I picked up the instrumentyou know it's essentially like
it's a hand organ is really what?
It is yeah, it's, it's an organis so deeply rooted in so many
different cultures.
But dude, I personally love theaccordion.
Me too.
I wanted to learn how to playthe accordion for the longest
time when I was younger.
Obviously, never got around toit, never really had the need.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Never too late.
Never too late, go ahead, no,no.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
I was going to say you're right.
The only thing getting in myway is this guy right here, the
man in the mirror.
The man in the mirror.

Speaker 6 (42:36):
The man in the mirror .

Speaker 2 (42:38):
That son of a?
Would you say that theaccordion has kind of been
pigeonholed by polka music, likepeople just have not like
realized its full potential yet.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
I think, um, from what I, I read this accordion
book called the AccordionRevolution and it was like.
It is exhaustive history.
Bruce Triggs is the author, theexhaustive history of the
accordion and like.
Accordion was like.
People wanted to be theaccordionist, they wanted to be
the next Lawrence Welk.

(43:08):
But then rock music came outand the accordionists were like
well, first they were in thebackground and then they were
like laughed at.
It became a joke, you know.
Yeah, I mean, you're not wrong,and for decades it was a joke,
and maybe for some of you it'sstill a joke.
You'll come around, I promise.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Weird Al did kind of put it back on the map.
Yes, but as a joke True, truetrue, but positives can come
from negatives.
So the fact that he put it backon the map whether it was a
joke or not- I think he stillput it back on the map.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
I like Weird Al too, Not to disparage anything.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
I'm not ready to fight over Weird Al?
It's not a hill.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
I'm willing to die on Exactly right.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
So I want to ask what would you say is the biggest
misconception about accordion?

Speaker 1 (44:01):
misconceptions.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
I don't know accordionists.
I don't know.
I thought it was a goodquestion in my head.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
I mean, I think.
I think that probably thebiggest misconception is the,
the like, the thought that it'sit's not as versatile as it is,
that it's like it's a polkainstrument it's only true.
Yeah, but I didn't play a polka, any polkas.
You know what I mean you playedawesome.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
That's what that was like.
I'm just gonna describe it asawesome, like dude you're.
So now to get into like thenitty-gritty and the reason why
I say it's awesome, I willelaborate.
I loved, especially on thefirst song I I loved the ebbs
and flows that you created, theangst, the angst, exactly the
story that you wrote andeverything.
And you did such a good job.
The energy came from both thelyrics, from both your singing,

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the way you played the accordion, the way you hit the notes.
It literally was a full,complete feeling and that's
really what had me enthralled.
Obviously, I'm enthralledbecause it's the accordion
feeling and that's really whathad me enthralled to me.
Obviously, I'm enthralledbecause it's the accordion.
But you'll get my attention ifyou have an accordion and you
suck because I'm just going tobe like cool an accordion.
I never see that.
But you got my attention andthen I was just completely
enthralled by it because youjust did such a good job of

(45:07):
owning the entire space withwhat you had and I thought that
was very, very impressive.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Thank you, that's a great compliment.
You're very welcome.
It feels good.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yes, I mean seriously .
You've got to make sure you gocheck him out because if you
like the energy you're seeing onthe podcast now, god wait till
you see him on stage If youdon't still wait until you see
him on stage.
If you don't, please still go.
Everyone's going to be stomping.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
It's going to be a great please just wait, you will
see it, I promise.
But seriously, guys,nominations next year.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Come on, I'm making sure I get it in there for you
next year.
I promise you we're going tomake it happen.
Milo, seriously a pleasure.
Thank you for taking the timeto talk to us.
Is there any social media oranything else you want to shout
out?

Speaker 1 (45:47):
featherburncom.
That's our site, but thanks toeverything you're doing, we
appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
Of course.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
The exposure and the help.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Absolutely.
Thank you, man.
It's what we love to do, man,and so home is where the art is.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
You guys, I love you, yes, big shout out to where
home is, where the art is Allright.
Well, milo, thanks again.
So much, man.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
Once again, we really appreciate your time.
Until next time, man.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Yes, singer-songwriter nominated for
Best Female Cover Artist.
I'm sorry you won last year.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
I did Nominated again this year correct and you've
been nominated four years in arow.
I did yes.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
Oh my goodness, it's happening Right in the way.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
I don't know why I did that with my body.
So we're standing here withpure talent.
We just watched you performlive.
You nailed it up there.
Oh, thanks, nailed it up there.
Thanks, that was awesome.
It was an honor to come see youplay live.
Thank you, of course, of course.
So I mean, let's walk throughyou as a musician.
How'd you get your start inmusic?
And let's start there.
Okay, and get to the end, we'llstop.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
Sure, all right, sure my parents were musical when I
was very young and I alwaysrecall them in the living room
Cat Stevens, the Eagles.
And when I was eight, my dadputs his guitar on my lap.
He's like you want to learn it.
I was like hell, yeah, and thatwas really it.
From there, I've been doingthis solo act for now my fourth

(47:05):
season.
Okay, I played with a band fora couple years, but really this
has become almost my full-timejob.
Oh, wow.
I'm still working full-time andI'm doing 100 gigs a year at the
same time, oh my.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
God, wow I'm pounding the pavement.
She must have more hours in aday than us.
I don't know where they are.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
I'm going to tell you from between can and even I
can't.
So but that's awesome, I willsay from one vocalist to another
as well.
Your voice booming, it's such aperfect tonality and you just
fill the room.
I mean that in the best waypossible.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
One thing I noticed and I don't know if this is on
purpose or just perfect luckyour voice perfectly matches the
tone of your guitar.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
Oh no, that just happened to be.
They made that guitar after myvoice is actually what happened.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
That's what it sounds like it was engineered to my
voice.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
That's really what happened there.
She's like it's a $65,000acoustic guitar.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
I know Martin Guitars really needed the extra push
100%.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
So what do we got coming up here now?
What do we got coming up in?

Speaker 4 (48:13):
Becca Jones' life and performances.
Beccajonesmusiccom shows mywhole lineup, but I'll be here
in York next week.
I play at the King GeorgeSpeakeasy, which is right across
the street here from the GiftTours, and I play all over the
place.
Like I said, I try to keep itaround 100 gigs a year.
I do private parties so,honestly, if someone wants to
hear some live acoustic classicrock, I'm there.

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She's like I'm your girl, I'myour girl.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
That's awesome.
How did you get involved withthe Homeless Worthy Artist?
How did you hear about this?

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Through Amber and Dan .
I heard about this when theyfirst started doing the
songwriters rounds and theyasked if I wanted to participate
and I said you know, I'm reallyin the cover artist lane.
I have a handful, and so yeah,why not?
And I've met so many coolartists and I'm generally the
oldest one when I come here, butthat's okay, it's really cool

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seeing the talent man and it'sincredible that it's all right
here in our area.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
So all in our community.
It is crazy how much localtalent we have.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
And there's still so much undiscovered talent and I
can't wait to unearth all of ithonestly.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
It's so fun to be a part of.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
It really is Now.
You did say you have a coupleoriginals.
Are you also still working onnew original music right now?

Speaker 4 (49:28):
Right now I haven't I've co-written a song with a
friend, but I'm really justenjoying where I'm at right now
with this.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah, I'm having so much fun.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
And you're knocking it out of the park while you're
doing it and I'm open.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
If someone is a songwriter and they need a voice
that's similar to mine, let meknow.
I'd love to scream over yourtracks.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
She's like.
Al used to do the same thing.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
No, I never once did that, but no, I mean no, I never
once did that, but no, I meanthat's that, that is awesome.
I mean just coming together andseeing, like all the like acts
that have come together and howthe community is kind of like
building around itself with thetalent that we have here it,
just it never gets old.
Seeing it, like, like,literally.
We've been doing this for what?

Speaker 2 (50:13):
three years now two years now, yeah and um, now
we're seeing like something homewas where the art is and it's
like, oh, you're seeing like allthese other little things
popping up to get artists incontact with one another and
it's it's awesome, it's justawesome to see the whole
community coming together, justcoming together and just
bringing everybody up and up andup and up and up, and it's like
there's no ceiling to it it'sso cool to be be the best kind

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of family.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
You know what I mean Best kind of family reunion so I
got to ask because I know yousay you're primarily a cover
artist.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
What is your absolute favorite song?

Speaker 4 (50:44):
I love me some, me and Bobby McGee.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Okay, okay, out of left field, I wasn't expecting
that one See.
I was not expecting that one.
All right.
What's the one song whensomeone's like I want you to
sing this and you're like WagonWheel?

Speaker 4 (51:00):
That is not the first time we've gotten that tonight,
actually that we've heard thatjoke and unfortunately I know
Amber loves her, but TaylorSwift, sorry.
If someone comes up and saysyou know Taylor Swift, I say he
said absolutely, I will sing youAerosmith.
Shaded baby.
Oh my God, yes.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Love it.
That's actually the best jokeI'm going to use that, you know,
taylor Swift.
I'm like, yeah, aerosmith, yeah, I love that Right.
Steven Tyler, yes.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Yeah, great, absolutely His daughter.
Great actor, yeah, actress,actress, yes, oh my God, great,
great Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
So, with that, where do you see this community in I
don't know like 10 years?
How do you, as someone that'son the ground, stomping the
ground, how do you see thecommunity changing in the near
future?

Speaker 4 (51:52):
I think we're going to see a lot of acts popping up,
a lot of albums from local kids.
I say kids, I'm 40, okay, I seethat and I'm just like, wow,
they have seven albums outalready.
That's amazing.
I know cover artists likemyself are also facing venues
who are not paying for theirlicensing so we're losing out on

(52:13):
some gigs that we were kind ofcounting on last season.
So it's more putting ourselvesout there and you know, folks
like the Hall of Fame and Amberand Dan giving us this exposure
and this platform really ishelping too.
It gets us, gets the word out alittle bit.
Stop you guys seriously.
I'm so appreciative, though I'mso appreciative well, we're

(52:35):
happy to do it.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
One last thing I want to ask you, as someone that's
been doing it I mean you aredoing it Like I mean full-time
job, 100 gigs a year I alwayslike to ask people what's the
best piece of advice you cangive to aspiring artists.
Maybe someone wants to do whatyou're doing or wants to take it
even further.
What's the best piece of adviceyou've?

Speaker 4 (52:53):
learned.
I think my first season out Isaid yes to anyone who would pay
me to play music and I thinkthe second year you can realize
you don't have to be so open.
You can say no to places thatmaybe you're not the greatest
fit.
So be picky and play the placeswhere you know you're going to
fit and that's usually going tohave the kind of people who like
to listen to the kind of musicyou're playing.

(53:14):
That makes sense.

Speaker 8 (53:17):
Know yourself.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Know the places, know the music that people like who
wants to go sing the songs thatyou're good at singing, but the
crowd is not for that.
That just feels like You'regoing to burn yourself out?
It's got to feel so awkwardwhen you're like I'm being paid
to be here.
So I know you don't want tohear this, but I'm going to sing
now.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
So here's Wagon Wheel you do it out of spite.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
I don't even care if I mess up.
That's awesome.
Well, Becca, seriously.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Guys thank you Put her there.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
All around, all around.
You guys are awesome, you twothere.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
They probably don't get much credit back there, turn
that camera around real quickplease.
Thank you hey.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
You got a cameo, but, yes, thank you for taking the
time to come and talk to us.
Thanks for this.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
This is fun and we'll see you at the CPMA.
I can't wait.
I'll be there, baby, we'll bethere.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Hopefully I'm winning two first

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Awesome.

Speaker 9 (54:12):
What is?

Speaker 2 (54:12):
the other one.
We did say best cover artist.
What was the other one?
Best female vocalist, bestfemale solo artist, solo artist
that's what it was.
Yeah, all right, that's awesome, yep.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Get your votes in.
Yeah, thanks, guys.
We still got one more guestcoming, so stay tuned, yep.
And last but certainly notleast, we are back with Lucid,
ruby, bailey and Brant guys,congratulations, that was an
awesome performance.
I mean I say congratulationsbecause it was like.
It really was like holy crap,there was so much to that Dude

(54:44):
the cello like.
I'm just going to let you guystell me all about it, tell us
about how Lucid Ruby came to be,how it came to fruition and
where it's going.
Oh man, it's a pretty goodstory.
Oh, this is a good story.

Speaker 6 (55:03):
So you know, I've been playing music for uh, never
done this before.
So I've been playing music forum, like 17 years now.
I played guitar.
I started at 12 and I playedfor a long long time and back in
2018 I decided to go solo.
I left my old project and Icame up with Lucid Ruby with the
intention of eventually makinga whole band project.
That's why I didn't go likereally music or whatever.
I came up with an entity sothat I could have people in it

(55:25):
and it would make sense, and Iplayed solo for a very, very
long time.
And then I met him and he wasactually in Grant was actually
in another project.
A simple little thing, yeah.
And so he was playing at afestival that I was at.
I was like, hey, do you want meto play some lead with you?
And I came up and I played leadIn the middle of our set, in
the middle, and it was awesome,right.

(55:45):
And so we didn't talk again forlike a month and I had met my
girlfriend now and hung out withher and was like, well, let's
go up to the warehouse where hewould have his band practices
and hung out, and jammed andthen covid hit and we were at
the underground and he came outand played drums with me and he
just never stopped playing drumsthe same setup.

Speaker 9 (56:07):
Well, even before that, even before that, I showed
up at one of your uh shows likethe mountain stone in, or
something yeah, and I just cameout to see him play and he's
like hey, man you got a drum andI was like I got a drum in the
car.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
I always have a job.

Speaker 9 (56:20):
I got a drum and, uh, I went up and I started playing
with him and it's been likethat ever since.

Speaker 6 (56:26):
Like that's awesome.
Yeah, man, and so um a year ago, we ended up adding some other
members into the fold.
Now we have a bassist and alead player.
They weren't here tonight, itwas just a little duo set.
We've been releasing music eversince and really growing the
project that I originallyenvisioned all this time ago.

Speaker 9 (56:46):
The people that are learning to ride is really what
makes it work.
He made me learn how to play adrum kit.
I did, I, did, I was like man,we got a full band, we should
find a drummer and I'll playhand drums and it'll be a cool
little vibe and he's like nodude just buy a drum kit.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
So I went and I got a drum kit.
I think it's one of thosesituations where he says that
and the rest of the band, it'sjust awkward silence and they're
like okay, I think you shouldlearn how to play the drums,
drummer boy, I can't play thedrums in in my life.
Mister, I keep that thing on me.
You better keep that whole kiton you and then.

Speaker 6 (57:19):
So I've been playing guitar since I was 12.
I've been playing for me and mycousin.
We're rivals.
We played forever, but Iactually started playing cello
in 2022.
Wow, I did my New Year'sresolution on January 1st 2022
to get good at cello and sixmonths in I was like I did it.
I'm good at cello and it's onlybeen a rap ever since and I

(57:40):
have these great musiciansaround me that push me and write
things for me and they're likelearn this on cello, and they've
made me that much better atcello.
I would never be this good if itwasn't for Grant holding it
down and my bassist withrelative pitch.
Like you need to play thesenotes without a metronome
without a metronome so I do owea lot to my guys it's true, man,

(58:05):
you gotta have the rightchemistry in the band you were
talking about relative tone.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
He's like relative pitch.
I had the awesome I bring thisup a couple different times
because I just think it's anawesome thing but I had the
honor of I bring this up acouple different times because I
just think it's an awesomething but I had the honor of in
my last band, the guitarist.
I don't speak music, I don'twrite guitar, I don't play
guitar, but I'd be like, hey,you should play it like do, do,
do, do, do.
Like you know.

Speaker 9 (58:27):
That's what I do.
That's what he does, that'swhat I was saying.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
He said oh, you mean like this, and I was like
perfect, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
That's amazing.
I'm an orchestrator.
Yes, that is.
And so what's?

Speaker 6 (58:42):
great is my bassist, james, one of my dear friends,
james.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
He's your bassist.
He's nothing but a bassist.

Speaker 6 (58:50):
Yeah, we'll say it like that, I guess.
But yeah, james is, he's gotthe relative pitch, but he never
.
He didn't ever need to learntheory.
So I learned theory and he hasrelative pitch.
So we come together and we'rethis power duo of like.
He goes play do-do-do-do andI'm like oh, that's in C minor,
and you play these notes andhe's like cool, I just do it.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
So it's like you guys are a power duo, but if you
separate the two, you're like nowait, I don't work without you
and you don't work without me.

Speaker 6 (59:19):
It's like Batman and Superman at the same time.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
That's awesome, they're adorable, they're
adorable.
Then we got Jeremy.

Speaker 9 (59:27):
Then you got little Jeremy.
He's very new, but this guylearned our epic songs, our
seven-minute songs.
He's been in the band for threemonths and he's learned two
hours two hours of music inthree months.

Speaker 6 (59:41):
He's magnificent and he's got a newborn.
I'm like where do you have thetime?
How did you do that?

Speaker 3 (59:47):
He just looks at his wife or girlfriend and he's like
you know what to do it's crying.
I have to learn this.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
he just plays them to sleep all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
That's a really smart choice that makes sense,
because babies love music hesaid his daughter will listen to
him play all night she comes tomost of our shows.

Speaker 9 (01:00:09):
I don't even think she's won yet.

Speaker 6 (01:00:11):
That's awesome, and she just will listen to him all
night and he says he'll playmusic and she won't cry.
So it's awesome, like awesomefor him.
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
It's really great.
That's awesome.
It really is great.
So you said you have someoriginal music that you guys
have been putting out.
Then as well.

Speaker 6 (01:00:22):
Yeah, so we originally released Capable,
which is our first EP.
It was just me and Brent.
Yeah, like Actually, we workedon it 2018, released it 2019.
And then we have a single thatwas me and him as well.
And then I have a cello single,which I just kind of was like I
want to do it just cello andrelease it to see how it goes.

(01:00:43):
But right now we're currentlyreleasing our full band album.
It's got the bass, it's got thelead, it's got the guitar, it's
got the drum kit, it's calledRequiem About halfway through.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Yeah, we're about halfway through.

Speaker 6 (01:00:54):
We're doing the Waterfall release style, one
single at a time.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
That's smart, that's smart.

Speaker 6 (01:00:58):
It makes sense, you know, just to give a little
extra to our fans.
Instead of releasing one songall the way to the end, once we
have three songs left, we'regoing to just drop the whole
album so that the last one.
You get three whole songs,absolutely, and I have another
cello album that I have recordedthe cello and the guitar and
the bass, and I was thinkingabout putting some drums I'm not

(01:01:19):
sure to it yet and it's foursongs.
I'm just going to drop it justfor the people that want to
listen to our stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
So that's what's going on.

Speaker 6 (01:01:29):
right now, we have a lot on the way and currently,
being released.

Speaker 9 (01:01:34):
We got some videos coming too.
Oh yeah, Carl Carl, we got somevideos coming too.

Speaker 6 (01:01:36):
Oh yeah, carl, carl actually recorded some videos
for us.

Speaker 9 (01:01:38):
We got like four or five live videos coming out that
are like high quality.

Speaker 6 (01:01:41):
We just released one we played at the Cosmic Art
Studios and we released one ofour live videos from our album
release show at SRCC.
We did the album physical albumrelease so if you want to
listen to the whole album rightnow, you can buy the CD.
You don't have to wait for thewaterfall release because a
bunch of our friends were likeI'm not waiting, you're selling
this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
You know what I mean.
You're selling this CD.
Give it to me now.

Speaker 6 (01:02:04):
Yes, and it was like that touches my soul so much.
It's like you want to listenbut you don't want to wait our
marketing strategy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
I was going to say brilliant marketing strategy as
well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
we really did.
It's like hey, you want tolisten to the whole thing, you
got to buy a physical copy.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
Yeah, or you can wait , because we don't want to like,
we're not about exclusivity.

Speaker 8 (01:02:23):
Well, yeah of course.

Speaker 9 (01:02:24):
You know.
So it's like, but it is great,it's like you want a sticker.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
You want a sticker.

Speaker 9 (01:02:37):
You want a CD?
I was really bad back then.
I don't deserve it anymore thanthey do.
That's what I see, man.
I was like, oh, you want a pin?
You can take a pin too.
Honestly.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
I don't feel like packing this up at the end of
the night.
Take whatever you want.

Speaker 6 (01:02:45):
Half of our merch actually did become just free
stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 6 (01:02:48):
That's how I'm going to have to sell that or I'm
going to lose.
It's going to shoot myself inthe foot, oh cool.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Can I have the vinyl You're like?
No, no, no.

Speaker 9 (01:02:59):
You have to buy the vinyl.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Absolutely.
That's not going for free.

Speaker 9 (01:03:02):
And then branch in the background, All right half
off.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Yeah, right, right, right.
And a lanyard Some lighters.
What else do you want?
Take my car, buy the vinyl.

Speaker 6 (01:03:12):
Yeah, I want to make something Genius?
Oh yeah, Lighters are genius.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Actually, we just had somebody give us that it was at
717 Entertainment.
Yep, you gave us the lighters,yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:03:20):
I actually learned that from Miss Cantaloupe.
We were at Cosmic Art Studiosand they had bought stickers
that were lighter size and theyput them.

Speaker 9 (01:03:31):
Uncle Jake at one point got a whole bunch of Bic's
.

Speaker 6 (01:03:34):
And they were like $6 a Bic from the Cuckdoodles.
I would pay $10 for their Bicand I would light it one time
just to see it.

Speaker 9 (01:03:41):
That's what they bought it for.
Put it on a pedestal, that'sawesome.
Love those guys.
That's cool man.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
So I got to ask one last thing how did you guys get
involved with?
Home is when the Art Is.
How did you hear about this?

Speaker 6 (01:03:53):
Okay.
So originally I was justscrolling through PA Music
Magazine and I saw them befeatured and whatnot, and I
reached out to Amber and Amberwas like, yeah, well, come out,
we're doing this one.
And she booked me for one.
It was back in spring and Icame out and I played.
It was a really good time andshe really liked my guitar

(01:04:14):
playing.
So then a couple months latershe asked me to come out again
and booked me for the outsideone the outside home is where
the art is and I brought mycello out and she was just like
this is amazing, like holy crap,I didn't know you played cello.
And so I played my cello set.
And then she asked me to umopen for her album release show.

(01:04:35):
And so I came out and openedfor her album release show.
And so I came out and openedfor her album release show
that's awesome, you know nowwe're homies.
I love amber, I love dan.
They're like really greatpeople and they are they're good
like conversation good energy.
Oh yeah, I really like them andso it's just it kind of just
grew and that's like it was justauthentic, like hey, you're
good people and I want to bearound you guys.

(01:04:56):
So that's kind of how ithappened.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
That's awesome, man.
You guys do have a very uniquesound.
What would you guys, what's apiece of advice you guys would
give to anyone else that youknow may think they have a
unique sound and they want tostick to their guns.

Speaker 9 (01:05:09):
You know, maybe they're like all day long that
want to do covers and want toemulate somebody else's sound
and, like that's already done,let them do that.
Yeah, stick to your heart.
Your music's not going to begood if your heart's not in it,

(01:05:31):
yeah.
So don't go, that's true.
Don't go chasing waterfalls,yeah.
And if you?

Speaker 6 (01:05:37):
have something truly unique.
If you have a unique sound thatdoesn't fit into a box, you're
very eclectic.
Really lean into that.
Go and learn the jazz song,learn the folk song, write the
jazz song, write the folk song,write the pop song, write the
blues song.
Really lean into all thosedifferent styles.
And when someone's like whatgenre are you?

(01:05:58):
It's like I kind of do a littlebit of everything.
What do you want?
Because I've done it.
I've got 10 pop songs, I've got10 rock songs, I've got 10 folk
songs.

Speaker 9 (01:06:06):
We put together shows where they're like hey, we want
a pop punk vibe tonight, sowe'll kind of change up what
we're doing 45 minute pop song.
To to to suit that venue's vibe, but at the same time it's
still our music.

Speaker 6 (01:06:19):
It's kind of like it's kind of our style.
Yeah, use, use that as a tool.
You want to be a musician.

Speaker 9 (01:06:24):
you don't want to be as marketable as you can be,
right absolutely while stillstaying true to what you want to
working for us so far.

Speaker 6 (01:06:32):
You don't just enjoy rock, you're not like well, I
mean, maybe some people do, butI know me personally, I don't
just enjoy rock or just enjoyblues.
I like a little bit ofeverything, so why shouldn't I
play a little bit of everything?

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Yeah, you're polyjamorous, yeah, polyjamorous
, yeah, I love that Hippie,gypsy punk punk yeah there you
go.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Ween.

Speaker 9 (01:06:50):
Ween's a good example oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
One um country to jazz.

Speaker 6 (01:06:55):
On one thing yeah, one one uh roadblock or or.
Difficult thing with that isit's really hard to put yourself
in a box and when people arelike what is your genre, you
don't have an answer.
Whenever you apply to like uhsomething and they're like, oh,
we want a blues rock.
It's like I'm not technicallyblues rock though, so there is
some roadblocks that come inthere with that and so it's like

(01:07:17):
finding your micro genre issuper duper important, or at
least having one, two, threegenres that you can be like I am
under this umbrella is reallyimportant.
Put some time into figuring outwhat genres that you fall into
and how you can categorizeyourself, because down the line,
when it becomes important foryou to have a genre, to have a

(01:07:40):
box, to have an umbrella and youdon't have that because you're
too eclectic, it can be a bitdifficult.
So maybe branch out, but alsotry to Refine yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Yeah, that's great, that's a great way to put it
yeah, absolutely Awesome.
Well, guys thank you so muchfor taking the time.
Absolutely Thanks for having us, man, after your awesome set.
Man, definitely looking forwardto seeing you guys in this time
and you guys are going to be atthe CPMAs, correct, absolutely,
because you guys were nominated.
Yeah, exactly Two years in arow, somehow.
I can't wait, guys.
This year too, it's going to bedown, your guys' way down in.

(01:08:15):
Lancaster Down this way.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
Is what I mean.
A roundabout.

Speaker 9 (01:08:19):
A roundabout.
Yeah, it's a roundabout for ustoo.
Pennsylvania man, Everything'sclose.

Speaker 6 (01:08:25):
I bought a suit just for that event and I only wear
it to that event.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
That's how important I take it.
Perfect Well, guys, thank youso much for your time.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
Thank you Greatly appreciate talking to you, man,
looking forward to seeing you, Ilike that crossover.
You want to do it again.
I couldn't, I couldn't.
Well, guys, that is all for us.
At Home is when the Art Is.
This was the Writer's Roundtable, or Writer's Round.
Yes, writer's Round, writer'sRound.
We'll get it right eventually.

(01:08:52):
We'll get it right eventuallyAt Gift Horse Brewing.
Until next time, guys, you.

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