September 13, 2024 • 19 mins
Imagine a business world where every decision is guided by divine wisdom, leading not just to success but to deep fulfillment. That’s precisely what we explore in this episode of the Certain Success Podcast. Through personal stories and experiences, I share how integrating faith into business can transform our professional lives. From recognizing divine guidance to understanding our identity in God, you'll learn how a profound relationship with Christ can influence every business move. It’s not about surface-level faith gestures but about deeply embedding spiritual principles into daily actions to achieve true, impactful success.
We dive into the concept of "certain success," emphasizing that real success is rooted in our relationship with God and extends beyond the transient nature of business highs and lows. The journey shared spans decades, underscoring the importance of love, relationships, and community. We'll discuss practical ways to submit to God's guidance daily, seek His wisdom, and align our business actions with His eternal plans. Whether you're aiming to scale your business or seeking greater fulfillment, this episode provides valuable insights on navigating your professional life with faith as your cornerstone. Don't miss this enriching conversation on faith and business!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey guys, welcome back to the Certain Success
Podcast.
Matt Fagioli here, and theamazing Joe Gaeta is MIA today,
headed to the Riverhouse for theweekend with his bride and
working today, I'm sure.
But he set me loose with amicrophone by myself and so I've
(00:28):
got a bunch of stuff on my mindand just wanted to share with
you Today.
I've called this.
You know, how do you make yournext big business decision?
Question mark, something likethat.
And what I want to talk about isthis the battle, the biggest
(00:51):
battle of my life, and I thinkall of our lives to some extent,
is how do I balance thephysical world with my spiritual
life, world with my spirituallife, and what does it look like
(01:14):
to bring God into my business?
And I think you know, for themost part in our world people,
when you say stuff like that,people think it means like I'm
going to put a fish on my car,I'm going to be really nice to
people and I'm super not nice toeveryone that I meet.
And if you know me, you'reprobably laughing right now
because you know that's true.
You know there's lots of,there's so much humanity in me
(01:35):
and sometimes love is missing,but that's not what I've come to
find that it's about.
What I've come to find thatit's about is about the depth of
(02:02):
relationship and understandingand awareness of the presence of
God when I'm walking around and, in this context, when I'm
making a business decision,small or large and I realize now
in retrospect so many thingsyou learn from looking back and
going oh, that's how that was.
You know, over the past decadesof my career, I realized that
(02:23):
I've been listening to God'svoice and gaining insight from
the Spirit and acting on thatinsight and making the decision.
But what I wasn't doing untilrecent years is really
understanding what was happening, where that was coming from,
(02:45):
and giving credit where creditis due.
And instead I'd sort of be likeoh, I had a great idea, I did a
great thing, even though I wasasking the Lord for his help
when it happened.
I was like I did that, yay,matt.
And after some decades yourealize, oh, you know, know what
(03:08):
?
I didn't actually do anything.
All I did was take a stepforward based on what he said,
put in my head ideas that hegave me and and it's almost like
misguided obedience orsomething of like, you know, got
the idea, went and did it,which is obedience to the Lord.
(03:31):
But you know, if you're justdoing it because you think it
was your idea, then sort ofmisguided.
Anyway, I think that the way tomake phenomenal business
decisions which are going tochange your business, like we
all hear this language about,you know how to go from six
(03:52):
figures to seven figures in yourbusiness, or even seven to
eight or or beyond.
But you know, most of us onthis planet are somewhere in a
business cycle where we're doingsome kind of six figures in
revenue and trying to go toseven.
That represents, I mean, 90% ofthe population, right?
So raise your hand to yourselfand be like yep, that's me, I'm
(04:16):
doing six figure something and Iwould like to either do way
more six figure and then, ofcourse, I want to do seven, I
want to do seven plus, and forthe one out of the thousand of
you who will ever make it toeight figures, god bless you.
And but the decision treedoesn't change.
So the way to make the bestdecisions is to ask the lord.
(04:39):
But and it can't be, you know,god's not your ATM machine.
I love that phrase.
I think I don't know who firstsaid it.
My pastor says it all the time,you know.
So it can't be like, hey, Iwant to invite God into what I'm
doing and ask him to bless itto.
(04:59):
I am on the mission that Godinvited me into.
I'm doing what God invited meto do, and I'm doing that from a
clear understanding of who I amand who God is and what our
relationship is.
And so, like all of thatgrounding has to be in place
first, and you know, we findourselves in our you know,
(05:25):
business, consulting life,finding people all along the
journey in understanding that ornot understanding that, and so
all that groundwork has to bedone.
It's all prerequisite.
You need to be clear about yourrelationship with the Lord, you
need to be clear about who hesays you are, and then you have
to understand from that what'sbirthing out of you, what is
(05:49):
burning in your heart to go doin the world as a result of what
God's breathing into you.
And if all of that sounded likespaghetti to you, then that's,
that's the stuff that you haveto do first, um, otherwise
you're going to like, keep oncycling through these like, uh,
(06:12):
success.
You know rabbit wheels orhamster wheels, excuse me, um,
and I I've done that.
That's the the reason I knowthat that's true is because I've
done that over and over again.
So what I mean by that is, ifyou, to the extent that you're
out of alignment with any ofthose things, you're going to
(06:36):
find some level of success,probably that reaches that
matches up with your naturalceiling of achievement.
You're going to find that levelof success and you're going to
get there and go like, oh, thisisn't great.
No, they gone.
This is not what I thought itwas going to be.
And I feel a little stuck.
And entrepreneurs do that waymore and way faster than other
(06:57):
human beings, because we do morestuff and we usually do it
faster.
And so in my career I've startedand cycled through a bunch of
different businesses overwhatever gosh 35 years and
reached some meteoric successesin that cycle, but always found
(07:22):
it empty at the top of it.
It's's like, oh, okay, this isgreat, there's some money here,
but the joy that fills my soulwith what I'm trying to become,
what I'm trying to submit myselfto the Lord making me into, I
guess, is a better way to voicethat Always falls short.
(07:44):
So, as you're going forwardfrom where you are right now,
wherever your place is in yourbusiness life right now.
Every decision has to come fromhis counsel.
Every decision has to startwith surrender first.
(08:05):
Right, like I'm going to dowhatever you say, lord, even if
it doesn't make any sense, whichusually doesn't, and so it
can't be like I want the answersto what I want.
It has to be Lord, I surrender,you're in control, we're going
to go from wherever we are rightnow.
We're going to go wherever yousay, lord, and whatever you say,
I'm going to obey God.
(08:27):
It's giving me that littlesinking feeling, even when I
said that to myself, becauseit's like, oh, what's he going
to say?
It might be scary, it might beterrible, he might lead me off a
cliff he probably will, buthe's also going to catch you
when you jump, if you jump.
But I digress.
So we're going to makedecisions in our business from a
(08:52):
posture of surrender first, andthen others focused.
So I think one of the bestquestions that you can ask
yourself when you're making adecision is am I focused on
myself or am I focused on theothers around me, and how is
(09:15):
this decision going to impactthe people in my life?
And I think it's probablyharder.
It's definitely harder to saysomething like that, or ask a
question like that, when thedecision seems a little
inconsequential.
Seemingly inconsequentialdecisions are the decisions that
(09:50):
make up the whole, that make upwhat's happening and what the
direct direction is, and and allof that.
Um, I love this uh thing thatI've learned recently, uh, about
the story of king David in theBible.
I mean, of course, we've allheard those stories, even if we
haven't read it as many times asyou should.
(10:11):
You kind of know who King Davidis and how he took out Goliath,
and I bet you don't know allthe backstory.
But the piece of it that Ifound so interesting, that was
pointed out to me fairlyrecently, is that God loved
David and always said you know.
People say you know it's a manafter my own heart.
(10:34):
You know God loved Davidbecause he was so well connected
to the Lord and there was acommunion and an understanding
of God's presence with David,more so than, you see, with a
lot of other people.
Moses and others had it, ofcourse, and Elijah.
(10:55):
But this thing that I thoughtwas so noteworthy is that if you
go back through all of thestory, if you go back through
all of the story, david mademany, many, many mistakes and
had many, many huge victories.
And if you read the text, youcan actually correlate the fact
(11:20):
that every time he inquired ofthe Lord, he won.
And every time he thought tohimself is often the language.
So, like I, made my owndecision.
Every single time he did that,he lost.
Every single time he went tothe Lord and asked for wisdom
and insight, he won.
And I just find that absolutelystunning Because, you know, as
(11:44):
soon as I heard that, I thoughtto myself that's me, I do that
all the time.
Which is the best way to to readthe scriptures is to go like,
how do I fit into this story?
Who am I in this story?
Um, and, and, by the way, likeno, no fear guilt or shame in
any of that, but like, how do Ilook like david?
(12:05):
And it's that.
It's this back and forth ofsometimes I inquire of the lord
and he gives me insight, andthen I win.
Sometimes I just go try to wingit and I don't win.
And and so back to this ideathat you can build a business,
get to your natural ceiling ofachievement and get stuck and
(12:25):
not be able to get past it.
And not only that, not only bestuck but not be happy and full
of joy in what you're doing is afunction of how much you
(12:47):
inquired to the Lord, submittedfirst and inquired to the Lord
about every single decision thatbrought you to where you're
going.
And so that's the journey thatJoe and I are on at Certain
Success.
That's the way that we'retrying to make decisions and run
(13:07):
our business and counsel ourclients and partners about how
to make their decisions, andit's a commitment to run in
blindness, which is socounter-cultural, especially in
the business space, to say we'regoing to do what the Lord seems
(13:29):
to be leading us towards, thebest that we can understand it,
not knowing, jack, honestly,about the outcome.
In fact, it can't be about theoutcome at all.
It has to be about the process,it has to be about just how
we're doing it, what we're doingtoday, the joy that we have
today and the percentage that'sa terrible way to put it of
(13:56):
surrender.
Like you know, how surrenderedare we to our willingness to let
the Lord lead and let himdecide which way we're going?
And even though we have ideasabout the big picture and we
think we want to go this way,and we're studying and we're
learning and we're doing things,we're testing and we're trying
our best to navigate through thefog, but first and foremost, we
(14:23):
are attempting to surrenderevery day, attempting to ask the
Lord for his insight and wisdomon every single decision and
then attempting to obey what wethink we heard and you know
there's no clear process.
Um, well, there are, you knowthese, these guideposts, you
(14:46):
know these things that thatwe've learned and that scripture
provides us for, like, how?
Um?
But I think step one is evenunderstanding the process that I
just explained.
And then step two is attemptingto do it, and it almost can't be
done to do it.
And it almost can't be done.
It cannot be done alone,because there's an enemy, in
(15:08):
fact, there's a chorus ofenemies the world, the flesh and
the devil all telling you thewhole way through.
You can't do it, you're notgood enough, god's not really
going to help you, he's notgoing to show up.
Why would he show up for you,you terrible sinner?
And you know I'm speaking thatto myself as well.
So you have all of theseenemies, all these voices, all
(15:32):
of this badness in your head andit keeps coming back every
single day, every minute ofevery day, and there's only two
things that that are going tohelp that.
And the Lord and your communitysaid another way the armor of
(15:52):
God, you know, understandingwhat's happening and having the
right people to to be with andtalk to and pray with as we're
trying to fight the battle.
And here's another big piece ofit is that the more you lean
into your dream, the closer youactually get to executing on
(16:17):
this kind of accurate, truthfulway of approaching life and
business.
The more you're going to beopposed, the more the enemy is
going to go against you.
Um, you know, I I feel like itstarts.
The second, maybe before Iopened my eyes, but the second
(16:38):
that I start to approachconsciousness in the morning and
all day long, to approachconsciousness in the morning and
all day long.
Uh, I feel the attack and themore you stand against it, the
more that's going to be true andthe battle is worth it, because
(17:00):
it's the real battle.
It's the truth.
We all have this thing calledthe battle within and I don't
think I understood that all thatwell 20 years ago.
I'm like, yeah, okay, there's abattle within.
What does that even mean?
And now I'm starting to that's,that's what it is.
(17:25):
It's that relentless, from thefirst moment of the day until
you go to sleep.
All of the voices battlingagainst the truth, which is
God's presence is here all thetime.
He he's for you, he's with you,he's for time, he's for you.
He's with you, he's for you,he's in you.
(17:46):
The Holy Spirit, he wants togive you his direction and
insight, and step one is to justembrace that, receive that, and
so I hope this little rant ofmine helps you a little bit.
(18:08):
And again, I think it's the waythat business and faith align,
which is a journey that I'vebeen on for some years now,
decades really.
But chasing hard after trying tosolve these questions for
(18:28):
myself in recent years and wherethe certain success brand came
from.
And if you don't know the wholepoint of certain successes, the
only certain success is Christand eternity and who you're
becoming on this planet, basedon who God says you are and what
(18:50):
he's got planned for you, isthe only certain success.
Any of the business up anddowns and all that stuff, none
of it matters in the absence oflove and relationships and
community.
Those are where your certainsuccess is.
But we're all a bunch ofbusiness people trying to do
(19:10):
life in the physical world whilewe're here.
Um, and so the best I candiscern and articulate it, um,
it's just this method of everysingle day submit yourself to
the lord and ask for his wisdomand insight, and obey what you
(19:32):
heard, and that that's the pathto certain success.
So happy friday to you, guys,and we'll see you back here on
the certain success podcast.
Hey guys, welcome back to the Certain Success
Podcast.
Matt Fagioli here, and theamazing Joe Gaeta is MIA today,
headed to the Riverhouse for theweekend with his bride and
working today, I'm sure.
But he set me loose with amicrophone by myself and so I've
(00:28):
got a bunch of stuff on my mindand just wanted to share with
you Today.
I've called this.
You know, how do you make yournext big business decision?
Question mark, something likethat.
And what I want to talk about isthis the battle, the biggest
(00:51):
battle of my life, and I thinkall of our lives to some extent,
is how do I balance thephysical world with my spiritual
life, world with my spirituallife, and what does it look like
(01:14):
to bring God into my business?
And I think you know, for themost part in our world people,
when you say stuff like that,people think it means like I'm
going to put a fish on my car,I'm going to be really nice to
people and I'm super not nice toeveryone that I meet.
And if you know me, you'reprobably laughing right now
because you know that's true.
You know there's lots of,there's so much humanity in me
(01:35):
and sometimes love is missing,but that's not what I've come to
find that it's about.
What I've come to find thatit's about is about the depth of
(02:02):
relationship and understandingand awareness of the presence of
God when I'm walking around and, in this context, when I'm
making a business decision,small or large and I realize now
in retrospect so many thingsyou learn from looking back and
going oh, that's how that was.
You know, over the past decadesof my career, I realized that
(02:23):
I've been listening to God'svoice and gaining insight from
the Spirit and acting on thatinsight and making the decision.
But what I wasn't doing untilrecent years is really
understanding what was happening, where that was coming from,
(02:45):
and giving credit where creditis due.
And instead I'd sort of be likeoh, I had a great idea, I did a
great thing, even though I wasasking the Lord for his help
when it happened.
I was like I did that, yay,matt.
And after some decades yourealize, oh, you know, know what
(03:08):
?
I didn't actually do anything.
All I did was take a stepforward based on what he said,
put in my head ideas that hegave me and and it's almost like
misguided obedience orsomething of like, you know, got
the idea, went and did it,which is obedience to the Lord.
(03:31):
But you know, if you're justdoing it because you think it
was your idea, then sort ofmisguided.
Anyway, I think that the way tomake phenomenal business
decisions which are going tochange your business, like we
all hear this language about,you know how to go from six
(03:52):
figures to seven figures in yourbusiness, or even seven to
eight or or beyond.
But you know, most of us onthis planet are somewhere in a
business cycle where we're doingsome kind of six figures in
revenue and trying to go toseven.
That represents, I mean, 90% ofthe population, right?
So raise your hand to yourselfand be like yep, that's me, I'm
(04:16):
doing six figure something and Iwould like to either do way
more six figure and then, ofcourse, I want to do seven, I
want to do seven plus, and forthe one out of the thousand of
you who will ever make it toeight figures, god bless you.
And but the decision treedoesn't change.
So the way to make the bestdecisions is to ask the lord.
(04:39):
But and it can't be, you know,god's not your ATM machine.
I love that phrase.
I think I don't know who firstsaid it.
My pastor says it all the time,you know.
So it can't be like, hey, Iwant to invite God into what I'm
doing and ask him to bless itto.
(04:59):
I am on the mission that Godinvited me into.
I'm doing what God invited meto do, and I'm doing that from a
clear understanding of who I amand who God is and what our
relationship is.
And so, like all of thatgrounding has to be in place
first, and you know, we findourselves in our you know,
(05:25):
business, consulting life,finding people all along the
journey in understanding that ornot understanding that, and so
all that groundwork has to bedone.
It's all prerequisite.
You need to be clear about yourrelationship with the Lord, you
need to be clear about who hesays you are, and then you have
to understand from that what'sbirthing out of you, what is
(05:49):
burning in your heart to go doin the world as a result of what
God's breathing into you.
And if all of that sounded likespaghetti to you, then that's,
that's the stuff that you haveto do first, um, otherwise
you're going to like, keep oncycling through these like, uh,
(06:12):
success.
You know rabbit wheels orhamster wheels, excuse me, um,
and I I've done that.
That's the the reason I knowthat that's true is because I've
done that over and over again.
So what I mean by that is, ifyou, to the extent that you're
out of alignment with any ofthose things, you're going to
(06:36):
find some level of success,probably that reaches that
matches up with your naturalceiling of achievement.
You're going to find that levelof success and you're going to
get there and go like, oh, thisisn't great.
No, they gone.
This is not what I thought itwas going to be.
And I feel a little stuck.
And entrepreneurs do that waymore and way faster than other
(06:57):
human beings, because we do morestuff and we usually do it
faster.
And so in my career I've startedand cycled through a bunch of
different businesses overwhatever gosh 35 years and
reached some meteoric successesin that cycle, but always found
(07:22):
it empty at the top of it.
It's's like, oh, okay, this isgreat, there's some money here,
but the joy that fills my soulwith what I'm trying to become,
what I'm trying to submit myselfto the Lord making me into, I
guess, is a better way to voicethat Always falls short.
(07:44):
So, as you're going forwardfrom where you are right now,
wherever your place is in yourbusiness life right now.
Every decision has to come fromhis counsel.
Every decision has to startwith surrender first.
(08:05):
Right, like I'm going to dowhatever you say, lord, even if
it doesn't make any sense, whichusually doesn't, and so it
can't be like I want the answersto what I want.
It has to be Lord, I surrender,you're in control, we're going
to go from wherever we are rightnow.
We're going to go wherever yousay, lord, and whatever you say,
I'm going to obey God.
(08:27):
It's giving me that littlesinking feeling, even when I
said that to myself, becauseit's like, oh, what's he going
to say?
It might be scary, it might beterrible, he might lead me off a
cliff he probably will, buthe's also going to catch you
when you jump, if you jump.
But I digress.
So we're going to makedecisions in our business from a
(08:52):
posture of surrender first, andthen others focused.
So I think one of the bestquestions that you can ask
yourself when you're making adecision is am I focused on
myself or am I focused on theothers around me, and how is
(09:15):
this decision going to impactthe people in my life?
And I think it's probablyharder.
It's definitely harder to saysomething like that, or ask a
question like that, when thedecision seems a little
inconsequential.
Seemingly inconsequentialdecisions are the decisions that
(09:50):
make up the whole, that make upwhat's happening and what the
direct direction is, and and allof that.
Um, I love this uh thing thatI've learned recently, uh, about
the story of king David in theBible.
I mean, of course, we've allheard those stories, even if we
haven't read it as many times asyou should.
(10:11):
You kind of know who King Davidis and how he took out Goliath,
and I bet you don't know allthe backstory.
But the piece of it that Ifound so interesting, that was
pointed out to me fairlyrecently, is that God loved
David and always said you know.
People say you know it's a manafter my own heart.
(10:34):
You know God loved Davidbecause he was so well connected
to the Lord and there was acommunion and an understanding
of God's presence with David,more so than, you see, with a
lot of other people.
Moses and others had it, ofcourse, and Elijah.
(10:55):
But this thing that I thoughtwas so noteworthy is that if you
go back through all of thestory, if you go back through
all of the story, david mademany, many, many mistakes and
had many, many huge victories.
And if you read the text, youcan actually correlate the fact
(11:20):
that every time he inquired ofthe Lord, he won.
And every time he thought tohimself is often the language.
So, like I, made my owndecision.
Every single time he did that,he lost.
Every single time he went tothe Lord and asked for wisdom
and insight, he won.
And I just find that absolutelystunning Because, you know, as
(11:44):
soon as I heard that, I thoughtto myself that's me, I do that
all the time.
Which is the best way to to readthe scriptures is to go like,
how do I fit into this story?
Who am I in this story?
Um, and, and, by the way, likeno, no fear guilt or shame in
any of that, but like, how do Ilook like david?
(12:05):
And it's that.
It's this back and forth ofsometimes I inquire of the lord
and he gives me insight, andthen I win.
Sometimes I just go try to wingit and I don't win.
And and so back to this ideathat you can build a business,
get to your natural ceiling ofachievement and get stuck and
(12:25):
not be able to get past it.
And not only that, not only bestuck but not be happy and full
of joy in what you're doing is afunction of how much you
(12:47):
inquired to the Lord, submittedfirst and inquired to the Lord
about every single decision thatbrought you to where you're
going.
And so that's the journey thatJoe and I are on at Certain
Success.
That's the way that we'retrying to make decisions and run
(13:07):
our business and counsel ourclients and partners about how
to make their decisions, andit's a commitment to run in
blindness, which is socounter-cultural, especially in
the business space, to say we'regoing to do what the Lord seems
(13:29):
to be leading us towards, thebest that we can understand it,
not knowing, jack, honestly,about the outcome.
In fact, it can't be about theoutcome at all.
It has to be about the process,it has to be about just how
we're doing it, what we're doingtoday, the joy that we have
today and the percentage that'sa terrible way to put it of
(13:56):
surrender.
Like you know, how surrenderedare we to our willingness to let
the Lord lead and let himdecide which way we're going?
And even though we have ideasabout the big picture and we
think we want to go this way,and we're studying and we're
learning and we're doing things,we're testing and we're trying
our best to navigate through thefog, but first and foremost, we
(14:23):
are attempting to surrenderevery day, attempting to ask the
Lord for his insight and wisdomon every single decision and
then attempting to obey what wethink we heard and you know
there's no clear process.
Um, well, there are, you knowthese, these guideposts, you
(14:46):
know these things that thatwe've learned and that scripture
provides us for, like, how?
Um?
But I think step one is evenunderstanding the process that I
just explained.
And then step two is attemptingto do it, and it almost can't be
done to do it.
And it almost can't be done.
It cannot be done alone,because there's an enemy, in
(15:08):
fact, there's a chorus ofenemies the world, the flesh and
the devil all telling you thewhole way through.
You can't do it, you're notgood enough, god's not really
going to help you, he's notgoing to show up.
Why would he show up for you,you terrible sinner?
And you know I'm speaking thatto myself as well.
So you have all of theseenemies, all these voices, all
(15:32):
of this badness in your head andit keeps coming back every
single day, every minute ofevery day, and there's only two
things that that are going tohelp that.
And the Lord and your communitysaid another way the armor of
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God, you know, understandingwhat's happening and having the
right people to to be with andtalk to and pray with as we're
trying to fight the battle.
And here's another big piece ofit is that the more you lean
into your dream, the closer youactually get to executing on
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this kind of accurate, truthfulway of approaching life and
business.
The more you're going to beopposed, the more the enemy is
going to go against you.
Um, you know, I I feel like itstarts.
The second, maybe before Iopened my eyes, but the second
(16:38):
that I start to approachconsciousness in the morning and
all day long, to approachconsciousness in the morning and
all day long.
Uh, I feel the attack and themore you stand against it, the
more that's going to be true andthe battle is worth it, because
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it's the real battle.
It's the truth.
We all have this thing calledthe battle within and I don't
think I understood that all thatwell 20 years ago.
I'm like, yeah, okay, there's abattle within.
What does that even mean?
And now I'm starting to that's,that's what it is.
(17:25):
It's that relentless, from thefirst moment of the day until
you go to sleep.
All of the voices battlingagainst the truth, which is
God's presence is here all thetime.
He he's for you, he's with you,he's for time, he's for you.
He's with you, he's for you,he's in you.
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The Holy Spirit, he wants togive you his direction and
insight, and step one is to justembrace that, receive that, and
so I hope this little rant ofmine helps you a little bit.
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And again, I think it's the waythat business and faith align,
which is a journey that I'vebeen on for some years now,
decades really.
But chasing hard after trying tosolve these questions for
(18:28):
myself in recent years and wherethe certain success brand came
from.
And if you don't know the wholepoint of certain successes, the
only certain success is Christand eternity and who you're
becoming on this planet, basedon who God says you are and what
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he's got planned for you, isthe only certain success.
Any of the business up anddowns and all that stuff, none
of it matters in the absence oflove and relationships and
community.
Those are where your certainsuccess is.
But we're all a bunch ofbusiness people trying to do
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life in the physical world whilewe're here.
Um, and so the best I candiscern and articulate it, um,
it's just this method of everysingle day submit yourself to
the lord and ask for his wisdomand insight, and obey what you
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heard, and that that's the pathto certain success.
So happy friday to you, guys,and we'll see you back here on
the certain success podcast.
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