Shoe Game Strong - Gentry Humphrey - Chasin' Birdies

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>> Speaker A (00:07):
New week here on chase and birdies, and we are
into a new month.
And today's episode. Man, I can't wait. I cannot
wait to get into it, my man.

>> Speaker B (00:17):
It is a fun filled episode.
M man, we took a shot in the dark
with our man and he actually came and it was awesome.

>> Speaker A (00:27):
He did. I know.

>> Speaker B (00:28):
He was great. The podcast is great. People are gonna
enjoy it. so I can't wait for y'all to hear about
that, but we gotta get into a little bit of.

>> Speaker A (00:36):
And thanks for tuning in today. I forgot to say that in the beginning. So,
my man JP, what's shaking, baby?

>> Speaker B (00:40):
Not much, man. I am doing this from
Indianapolis, Indiana. Back on the road,
dude. It's been a long road to this
point. Back on the road. tomorrow, have
a big appointment August 2. See if I get
my right shoe back. So now I don't have to just pack left
shoes. So that's exciting.

>> Speaker A (00:59):
But one thing about you is you don't forget
how to do things. Some people might forget how to
drive.

>> Speaker C (01:05):
Yeah, whatever.

>> Speaker A (01:06):
Forget how to walk.

>> Speaker C (01:07):
You.

>> Speaker A (01:08):
You're wired in.

>> Speaker B (01:09):
It's good.

>> Speaker A (01:10):
It's great.

>> Speaker B (01:10):
Yeah. But it's been a lot of work to get to this point, so I'm excited
to see what the outcome is tomorrow. Hopefully it's positive.
How the hell was your weekend, Buddha?

>> Speaker A (01:18):
Oh, man. Did a little, venture, down into
Washington, DC. Caught a
nice rock show concert there Saturday night. But
more importantly, one thing I've realized is that
I don't care if you're left, if you're right, if you're center,
whatever you are. The
fact of the matter is this, when you go into DC, it's like a

(01:38):
melting pot. You see people of different
ethnicities. The food's
phenomenal. But one of the saddest
things for me is seeing all these homeless people, man. I
mean, it's not so much that I'm sad about it,
but I had this guy start yelling. He was
talking to no one. he's talking to himself, yelling. And
I come around the corner and he catches me off guard and he's

(02:00):
screaming to himself. But I felt like he was
screaming at me. And I'm like. And I just keep
walking. But great weekend.
No golf. Golf courses look, look great. Drove
past Chevy Chase country club
over there. You know, I played a congressional. Who played
there?

>> Speaker B (02:17):
I played there. Us junior.

>> Speaker A (02:19):
Did you?

>> Speaker B (02:19):
US junior in 2003. Chevy Chase
Country Club.

>> Speaker C (02:23):
Good spot.

>> Speaker B (02:23):
Brian Harmon won that, us junior that year in
2003. So, But, yeah,
it was fun. It's beautiful spot. Small range there.
So, yeah.

>> Speaker A (02:33):
So over the last couple weeks, Jason, birdies, we had
our two man event at Nemekolan
Resort, which you guys have followed along. We talked about
this at length now and officially it's
over. And let's do a little
recap of.

>> Speaker B (02:48):
That today real quick because I don't want Jim or
Dan or Andrew thinking that we parted ways. But
today's episode is still brought to you by redvanley.
So go to redvanley.com. check them out.
Everybody loved the gifts. I know people have been going
online buying more swags. That's good. Daddy texted
me the other day for a code. I said, bud, I don't have a code.

(03:08):
Beat it. He said, I don't like paying retail. Like
he's, well, bud, you're paying retail. So there you go.
So he had to go buy shorts at retail. We
legit don't have a code.

>> Speaker A (03:19):
Right.

>> Speaker B (03:21):
but, yeah, it was, it was, it was a great event.
And thank, you to red Van Lee. Thank you to solid
optics. And thank you to
code by Gentry. for
everybody supported that event. It was awesome. For those of
you don't know code by Gentry, today's guest,
Gentry Humphrey, played in the
event. VP of Jordan golf right

(03:43):
now and he has an incredible shoe
line. That, dude, I bought a pair. You bought a pair? Daddy bought a
pair. They're really comfortable and I can't wait to be able to wear
both on each foot. each foot. So make sure you go
over to code by gentry.com to check them out.

>> Speaker A (03:57):
Yeah.
So the event, though, kicked off with the pairings.

>> Speaker C (04:00):
Party.

>> Speaker A (04:00):
Great. Food was phenomenal. We picked out all
the teams. I got paired up with Jason doll,
you got paired up with the cart because you couldn't play. Actually got paired up
with. Pshap. But first
night, everyone's feeling good. Hit the course
thinking, you know what's going to be low today. Seven, eight
under.

>> Speaker C (04:18):
Wrong.

>> Speaker A (04:20):
Twelve under. Day one, John Barry and Eddie Ayman.
Twelve under on Mystic M Rock.

>> Speaker B (04:25):
And that was with a bogey, too, dude.
So that's pretty
impressive. so they actually took the
$1,000 load. Low
day team.

>> Speaker C (04:35):
Yeah.

>> Speaker B (04:36):
And, there were four skins on either side, the net and the
gross. I know that each skin paid out 500.
So that was exciting.

>> Speaker A (04:44):
And then, day two, no one. People kind of felt a
little deflated. Steve Perry laid in bed all night. Apparently he got
sick, couldn't even come out of the room. No one saw
him. He had some case of the I don't know,
hay flu or something. I don't know what the hell he had.

>> Speaker B (04:58):
Only person not to get into the
skins on day two. And listen, he can say I was sick. I didn't
know. Dude, you're there. If you're gonna play, you might as well do it,
because he stuffed one on the par three,
made birdie. Somebody else made birdie.
And guess what? There was a skin now that would have been cut.
So, Steve Piering, you're the one who

(05:19):
didn't get in the skins because your tummy hurt. Your little
tummy hurt.

>> Speaker A (05:23):
Well, you couldn't. It was like the flu game, basically.
But regardless, John Barry and Eddie, amen.
Congratulations on winning. I think they shot
17 under.

>> Speaker B (05:33):
17 under. John Barry. The money
payouts was John Barry and Eddie Amen in first. Then
we had a three way tie for second, which,
Jared Taylor and Jeff OGM. Yo,
Jim. I'm saying it wrong. Jeff. I'm sorry,
bud, but get an easier last name. my man
from the north of the border came in

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second. And then, Wiz and Michael
George, finished in a third payout money.
And then my brother in law and Ek,
they lost not only in second place, they lost third place, and they
finished fourth, which means they did not get in the
money.

>> Speaker A (06:08):
Yeah, and, you know, Brian, he was sitting there. He looked a little
somber at the time. And then I told Wiz they got bumped out
of it, too. Kind of kidding him a lot. And he was
all disheveled there for a minute. What are you talking about? I was. We were
13 under.

>> Speaker B (06:21):
What?

>> Speaker A (06:22):
Well, you know what? That's what happens
in this game of golf. And it
was great, man.

>> Speaker B (06:28):
Yeah. Hey, good job to you, bud. I know it's tough to play in
your own event.

>> Speaker A (06:32):
And good job to you.
Yeah, good job to you. All right, and we'll.

>> Speaker B (06:38):
And great job to Nemekolin. The golf
courses were incredible. the staff was incredible. The
food was out of this world. not too many people got
in trouble, in the cigar bar.
So everybody stayed to Nemicolon. it was
a great few days. Thank you. To the participants. There were
40 guys and, dude, frickin

(06:59):
JB and Eddie. Amen.
Walked away after load team each day. And
winners, ten k. So five k each
in the pot for their. In their pockets.
now bass gonna make fun of me. But, dude, as you saw,
we had to get on booking it for next year already because dates were already
booked. I mean, we're just gonna say the dates right now. We
won't circle back around until probably February,

(07:22):
next year. But those of you that
want to play or have played
July 27 to July
29, 2025 at Neme
colon.

>> Speaker A (07:33):
Yep.

>> Gentry Humphrey (07:34):
Boom.

>> Speaker A (07:35):
and let's now. That was great, by the way. You
just took up a couple minutes there, explained everything.
I liked it. But
we do have this episode sitting here waiting and there's a YouTube
video out there. Check it out on YouTube, our YouTube
channel. Gentry Humphrey, thank you again
for coming over here and seeing us in person at
nemacolanhe. Really, really awesome guy.

(07:57):
And I hope you guys like the episode here
on Chase and birdies.

>> Speaker B (08:01):
It's gonna be, it's an exciting episode. all
of us have a pair of the Jordans.
He probably designed them. Let's roll it into there so you can
get his insight on how he designs them.
Code by Gentry and his golf game. Love for the
game of golf.

>> Speaker C (08:18):
All right, we're back this week on Chase and birdies for
another in person interview. And today's
guest is a special guest and can't be, be more grateful for you,
Gentry, coming in here from the west coast.
Gentry Humphrey is joining us here today on chasing birdies
and businessman, entrepreneur,
works closely with Michael Jordan, for the

(08:39):
Jordan golf brand and also started a shoe line
code by Gentry. Really,
cool. You know, even in a short period of time just getting
to know you. I mean, the vibe's awesome. You're really a really good
human being. And thank you for coming on
today's show of Jason birdies and it
has.

Been a pleasure and an honor,
just to meet so many good people, just
to see how you guys flow, is
tremendous. You know, a lot of times when you're out in this
world there's so many things that you, can be
doing and to be blessed to play
the game of golf and to be in a position
to, just have that build

(09:18):
camaraderie with. Phenomenal. So thank you
guys for having me.

>> Speaker B (09:22):
I gotta be honest. Whenever, you sent where you were flying from,
Ontario, ca, I'm like, my man's coming from
Ontario, Canada.

I travel a lot.

>> Speaker C (09:31):
But he wouldn't be that I was.

>> Speaker B (09:32):
Looking at Ontario, Canada flights. Boys.

>> Speaker C (09:34):
Yeah. Ah.

>> Speaker B (09:34):
And, it was Ontario, California. So
you're, you're kind of, you live in
California. You also live in
Las Vegas and then you sprinkle on a little Florida
time.

Yes, quite a bit. And I, because of
my footwork company, I'm also in Vietnam quite a bit.
So I got a crazy travel sky.
I've logged in probably 120
something days of travel throughout the year, man.

>> Speaker C (10:00):
And that wears you down.

Oh, yeah. It gets. It goes old fast. But, hey, I've been doing it for so
long.

>> Speaker B (10:05):
It does get old fast. Everybody thinks it's the lifestyle. Like, it's
not.

Yeah. Hotels and flights and food. That's the
main thing.

>> Speaker B (10:12):
I mean, the flights, though,
you get delayed. You get delayed. Like, people don't
realize that's a whole day that you've just
lost in your travel. And you talk about flying somewhere to
Vietnam. Imagine you get stuck in Vietnam for another two days.
I think you want to see your wife.

Yeah. Well, you know what's so funny, though, is
I have this crazy biological clock.
So, even when I'm at home, I always get up at for
the longest, especially before I retired, I would always
wake up between 419 and
421. No matter where I was in the world, I could
be in Japan on their time, go to bed

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whenever and wake up between 419
and 421. It was the weirdest thing.
It was. Right. And then once I retired, it, you know, kind
of went away a little bit. But. But I still get up early every
day.

>> Speaker C (11:00):
Yeah. I think it's good to get up early. That's a great
trait for humans, though, in general. Like, you
accomplish so much more in your day. Your
day feels longer, but it should. But you just get
so much more done. And I don't understand. I
personally, I can't sleep in. I just can't. I'm
not saying I get up at 419 or 421, but. But

(11:20):
by 530, I'm pretty much ready to roll.
Yeah. Yeah.

>> Speaker B (11:24):
I'm a morning person. I love to just wake up, have a cup of
coffee. Nobody's downstairs. Answer your
emails.

>> Speaker C (11:31):
Yeah.

>> Speaker B (11:31):
Kids come down, see them for a little bit, and then
head to the office. It's like. It's just a routine. And you get yourself
in that routine. I go to bed, like, ten, 3011.
So he goes, 830.
So,
yeah, so, yeah, I mean, so to
your career. You. You worked for Nike for

(11:52):
30 plus years. And nowadays,
for people to stay at one, organization for
that long is. It's it's unheard
of.

Yeah.

>> Speaker B (12:02):
what got you into what
you did for Nike at that time, or how
did it get you?

How did I get there? well, you know, it's really interesting.
I am a huge basketball fan.
You know, you couldn't tell me coming out of high school. That I was
not gonna be the next bud web. Like,
I was that guy.
didn't get any major division one offers coming out
of high school, so I ended up going to,
I had a bunch of division twos, but I was like, I can't get to the league from

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division two. So I, ended up going to
junior college and started, to
play there. And that summer coach ended
up recruiting, this huge guy
who, ultimately ended up being where we
went. We changed our entire offense to go around this
guy. So instead of a run and gun

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offense that the team had shoot the three, we
would walk the ball up court, throw it in the big
and let him go for 40 every game. So I was like,
okay, you weren't the big. No, I was not the big.
So I was like, I better get a new, a new
hobby and a new career path. And so,
I was always into kind of the fashion world.

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And I ended up working for Nordstrom, the retailer.

>> Speaker C (13:18):
Oh, yeah.

And, my parents had always told me, like,
whatever you do, you be the best that you can be and everything will
take care of itself. So I just took that mentality. I started
as a stock person. You walked into
my section of the stock room. It looked like wallpaper was so
perfect. they ended up,
moving me up to a sales position. I became the number one
salesperson. That led me to be

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a buyer for the store. so I became the number one
buyer. did a lot of things, changed the whole
format, brought the, introduced the athletic
format footwear for Nordstrom.
And, ah, Nike came to me at that point. They
recruited me from there. And then from there was,
you know, I did a lot of things in Jordan, Nike, basketball. But
then myself and three other

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gentlemen went to Phil Knight's office to
start, that asked him to start the Jordan
brand.

>> Speaker B (14:09):
So real quick.
So when you were a buyer with Nordstrom, you
were obviously buying off of Nike.
and you developed a relationship there
with Nike's, you know,
seller. What do you
feel like was the reason that Nike came to you
and was like, you're our guy?

You know, it was pretty, it's kind of easy because I
was, I'm such a basketball
guy. they would come in and I would do
just really weird things that people were
unheard of. But it led to success in the
business and the rep that would come in who
actually ultimately ended up being the president at one time.
But he had come in and,

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he would sit down and show me the line. And I already knew
about the line before he even pulled things out. I'm like,
hey, you left out whatever. Whatever. He's like, dang, this guy
would, you know, but then, as a buyer, you only had
so many dollars to buy, you know, the
product that you're bringing in. And so
I would do just crazy things. So, like, there one time, we

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had this basketball shoe that, they
were introducing in a limited collection, and it had these
crazy neon colors that I thought were really cool, but
I had used up most of my open to buy spend to get them,
so I wanted to have a great presentation on the
floor. So I took one colorway, bought them all in
half sizes. The other colorway bought them all in whole

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sizes, knowing that consumers, if they love them that
much, they'll rock a half pair up or down,
right? They didn't have their exact size, but the
presentation was immaculate. And then, you know,
folks. So just doing unconventional things.

>> Speaker C (15:47):
Yes.

>> Speaker B (15:47):
That's interesting to take that.
They'll buy it regardless, even if it's a little bigger, a little smaller to
get it.

>> Speaker A (15:53):
Yeah, they like it.

yeah, that's pretty. If it's
hot. Hey, two socks,
take the sock liner out. If it's too tight, you know, there's ways to
get around it if you like it that much.

>> Speaker C (16:04):
I definitely have that, situation
happening sometimes because there are
shoes that I can. These might even be, I don't know what
size these are specifically, but these are eight and a halfs.
But there are some shoes that I can only get a nine,
and I can squeeze into a nine. It's not like it's that big, but
other times, if it's. If I have to have an eight

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and a half, it's like, well, shoot, I can only get an eight.
Now, that becomes a little bit of a tougher, tougher
things. But going up a half sometimes, you know, and it makes.
It makes me feel a little better. I mean, you know, five, six, I'm rocking a
nine. Like, let's go. You know what I'm saying? I
like that, and I know you like that, too.

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So the not to over jump the
Nordstrom side of things, but you go to this meeting with Phil Knight,
which, you know, obviously, he has
become a magnet in the world of business, and
specifically Nike, for the sake of that. But
I mean, what, what's that conversation
like?

You know what? That
man is so smart.
how he's built the empire that it is, is
incredible, but he's just super sharp. The.
The first thing that he said, we're getting ready to walk into the
mediaev. The first thing he asked, he goes, well,
I guess it was a good ride, wasn't it? Because Michael had retired
when we started to do the pitch. and so

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we, he was, he had left the game. And so he's like, I guess it was a
good ride. You know, we rode this thing out and I was like. And
we had already built a plan saying, like, yo, there's so
much equity in this logo. We can ride this
thing a lot further than what, you know, what people
think. And so he said, I guess it was a good ride. And
when he said that, I was like, man, he just

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doesn't believe in it. I'm like, no. I'm like, this
thing's not over. And so he said, okay, well,
let's hear what you got. So we sat down, we did the
presentation, and we walked out of there
and he was like, let's do it, you know, make this
Jordan brand a true brand. And, you know,
we, I mean, we had a lot going for us. You
know, the brand itself

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was blowing up. You know, obviously,
you got the perfect storm when you have an
icon. You know, when you think about how Nike started,
you know, you had two guys put
$1,500 together and
basically poured rubber into a waffle iron,
adhered it to a simple textile,
upper, and it became a running shoe. And they sold shoes out of

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the back of their car. Well, that's how Nike
became, you know, what they were. Now
you fast forward and you have
a billion dollar empire in
Nike who now has a
man with a logo that represents the man
and the symbol of excellence in all that Michael did
with that billion dollar company backing it

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versus $1,500 backing it.
And the opportunity for success is
real. And so that's ultimately how we were able to
parlay it into a huge, business.

>> Speaker B (19:07):
Today, you and I had this conversation over lunch, and
it's, it's so true because my seven year old
son loves Jordan. And I told
you this story. a friend of ours,
Facetiming and Wayne Gretzky got on the, on the, on the
FaceTime. And my son said, who's that? And I'm sitting there thinking
he's the greatest hockey player of all time. What are you talking about? Who's that?
But my son has never

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watched Michael Jordan play basketball.
He knows the logo and he associates
that. And my son could tell you who Michael
Jordan is because of that. And my
point in that is that, like, think of that. He's
seven years old.

Yeah, right.

>> Speaker B (19:46):
20 some years away from watching Michael Jordan play. But he loves
Michael Jordan.

Yeah.

>> Speaker B (19:50):
And my point to that is that Wayne Gretzky doesn't have a brand.
A brand that he's selling out there. He is a brand. He's
an incredible brand.

But, yeah. Yeah.

>> Speaker B (19:59):
My point is, is that my son knows who Michael Jordan is because of the brand.

Yeah.

>> Speaker B (20:03):
And that's huge.

Yeah, it is. It's, you know,
it's, it's been a cultural,
phenomenon, to be honest with you.

>> Speaker C (20:12):
Yeah. When that movie came out a couple years
ago with Matt Damon and,
like, you're. Because you were
in the know on everything, like, is that
legitimate? Like, is that. Is there embellishment at
all?

>> Speaker B (20:27):
Yeah.

That, in all honesty. Well, first of all, let me say
this. I actually thought the movie was pretty
entertaining.

>> Speaker C (20:33):
Yeah, it definitely was entertaining.

I think what people need to
realize, though, is it was a movie, not
a documentary.

>> Speaker B (20:43):
Right?
Right.

You know, so, so a movie, you get,
you got to build in, you know, plots and.

>> Speaker C (20:50):
Yeah.

And all that. M so being there,
it might have been 50% accurate.

>> Speaker C (20:56):
Okay. Yeah.

and so, you know, so, so there's a lot
of things that. That I saw that I was like, oh. Didn't happen that
way. But I truly respected
kind of it for what it was.

>> Speaker C (21:07):
Yes.

For how it was supposed to be an entertainment tanning
movie. And I think for the most part, you know, it got. The tough part
is that a lot of people don't realize it, that
it wasn't a true documentary. So they take all
that for the gospel truth.

>> Speaker C (21:21):
And it's not just that.
Yeah. Yeah. The.
The campus is impressive. Peering took me out there. Steve. You met
Steve here in our tournament. He used to work for Nike. Nike
back in the day. And he took me there and, and I was
standing in the lobby of one of the buildings. He had a nice pair of
Cole Han Nikes on. And I'm drinking a cup of coffee,
and they're like blue suede. And knocked the coffee right out of

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my hand onto his shoes. Ruined them.
He's standing there looking at me. I'm like, sorry.

>> Speaker A (21:49):
Sorry, bud.

>> Speaker C (21:49):
Can't get those. Those are one offs, I guess.

Yeah. Canvas is pretty special.

>> Speaker B (21:55):
So what, so you're saying when
Michael was retiring, so that was what, 95?
96 when that was the first time.

And then obviously.

>> Speaker B (22:04):
Okay, so, so you go in there and you're. This
is, our plan. Let's roll with it. Is that something
that you guys take to Michael and say, hey, are
you good with this? Or is it more of a business
transaction? That he's going to benefit from anyways.

A little bit of both. So
the funny thing is, so his
first contract, so he signed in, 85.
The very first contract, was
needed, to be renewed in 88,
89. And,
at the time,

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the businesses just started to flourish,
did something that was completely different in the industry. I mean, who
would have thought that something as simple as
color could be irreverent and
innovative at the time? Because all basketball shoes were
like white and gray, white and blue, white and blue.
They were just basic air Jordan one comes in and

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it's just color that made a huge impact in
a statement. Then we started building
first mid cut, which was AJ three,
and we just started doing things a little bit different. So we started to
establish ourselves, but we were, we had
to renew Michael's contract. And part of the pitch
in making sure that the brand kept him was,

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hey, you know, one day this could go beyond
just a shoe. You know, be
potentially another brand. Now, in all
actuality, the conversation was like, okay, yeah,
if we get there, then we get there. But this is a good part of the
pitch that could help land this guy to make sure he
stays. And then you fast forward to
98, and that comes to life. Like

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part of the pitch. You built up a ton of equity in the
logo. You built a huge business.
Quite honestly, got scared to death the first time that he
retired because kind of got caught with our pants down. You know,
he didn't even really let us know, and we're like, oh, shoot,
we've had a nice business here, now it's gone. Like, what are we
gonna do? But that was a great lesson to learn,

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so that when the time did come for him
to retire, we can start to plan for it
and build a business around it. So
when that time came, it was easy to pitch the
business. And we did go to Michael prior to, to
say, hey, look, we told you back in
88, it's time to make that happen. And
he, of course, he was excited about it because it meant

(24:24):
broadening the scope of the business. You know, going from one
shoe to multiple shoes, going to, you know, an
apparel line that was a little bit more
substantial.
athletes, bringing new athletes into the fold, carry
the torch on.

>> Speaker B (24:38):
So you talk about, new athletes, and one of my
favorite all time athletes, was
Allen Iverson. And I
loved Allen Iverson at Georgetown. He wore those
patent leather, black AJ
eleven s with the white leather and the black
patent leather. Was there ever a point that
you guys are like, this is our guy like, this is the next

(25:01):
guy.

Hey, so I'll
never forget, we were, We had done a shoe. I
mean, Allen was such a great, he
was a. First of all, he's a phenomenal athlete. I think he
gets short sighted in the conversation of
great, great basketball players. I mean,
pound for pound, inch for inch, he

(25:22):
could be one of the best.

>> Speaker B (25:23):
He was a dog.

He's a beast. and he was so
exciting. He, one might argue he was kind of
like the Michael Jordan of
division one basketball at that time.
so to have him and have the team in Georgetown
rocking the product that we had created was
phenomenal because if you look at
his generation and how he was

(25:46):
basically representing the hip hop era, like,
it was a perfect way to transition
the brand. So having him in the.
In the product at Georgetown was huge. And, you
know, his nickname was Bubba Chuck. And we used to
have, we created this shoe that was a spinoff of the air
Jordan eleven called a bubba Chuck. And so

(26:07):
we went in and pitched him on this shoe at the
time. And, ultimately, the shoe was
dope. We didn't end up, he actually ended up obviously
going to Reebok. The money kind
of took him that way sometimes. Yeah.
Although I still think long term, what we could
have done with him, I think could have been

(26:27):
huge, but who knows? but
yeah. so we ended up losing him
to Reebok. But I think, you know,
back then, what was so great about the brand,
like, when our backs were against the
wall, like, you had to watch out because we were going to
come out swinging. So we might have lost out on a good
one, but, it just made us stronger to kind of

(26:49):
create hotter stuff and go after the next
guy and continue to do what we do.

>> Speaker B (26:55):
You told me a hilarious story about your
first meeting.

Yeah.

>> Speaker B (27:01):
with Michael Jordan. And,
you feel like that that's part of the reason why you guys
are so tight right now is. Is because, you know,
we. We had conversations about not
putting these people on pedestals. They don't want
that. And when you treat them and you give them a
little bit, they. All right, I could roll with

(27:22):
you on that. So your, first
meeting with Michael Jordan.

Yeah, it was crazy. So, you
know, in my
opinion, he is the greatest to ever
play the game. and so
when I was. When I was,
put to the task of, presenting
the, you know, his brand to him and taking lead
on it, the first meeting that we had, he

(27:49):
used to do a basketball camp in, Santa Barbara.
California for kids. And it was an overnight
camp. Kids would come and he'd do his whole
thing. And so they stayed at this
hotel. And back then, you know,
computers were like, they weighed,
blocky, hundreds of pounds, you know. And then we had all
these samples that I was going to show Michael so that he could see

(28:11):
the line that we had created in the whole
nine. And so he says,
hey, meet me at the hotel.
And, here's where I'll be. So
I'm all excited. I'm like, okay. Hang out with the
man. Make this happen. I'm like, I'm gonna
get there early. Presentation's gonna be dialed. I'm gonna
be straight. So I get there about 30 minutes early.

(28:33):
I call him and say, hey, I'm here. Where do I need to
go? So he gives me, this
direction, or tells me to go to this particular spot.
So it's hot. And this
hotel, huge. So
I'm traipsing across the entire
hotel, and
trying to find, go to the spot where he was.

(28:56):
Got this heavy computer, got all these samples. I'm
sweating because it's hot in the summer. And I get to
this spot, and he's not.
I'm looking around like, what the hell? Hey, Michael.
Like, I'm here, but
nobody's here. He goes, oh, my bad,
dog. My bad. He goes, we had to bounce. We had

(29:17):
to go do this, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, he goes, meet us over this
spot. So I'm like, okay, that spot
is on the other side of the hotel.
Here we go. So now I'm starting to get kind of hot
because I'm traipsing this stuff all
across. It's sweaty. I'm now
late, and I pride myself on being on time.

(29:37):
And, so I was like, dang. So I get
there. Nobody there. No.
I'm like, michael. I'm
like, hey, dude, I'm here. Like, what's up? I
mean, you did say this spot, right? He goes, yeah, yeah, yeah. He
goes, you know what, though? Again, we had to
move. I was like, are you serious?

(29:58):
So gives me another spot. So I'm going all the way
back over to where we were the first time, zigzagging.
Yeah, now I'm hot.

>> Speaker C (30:06):
Yeah, now you're just living.

I'm like, okay, I'm sweaty. Like, what
the hell? So get to the
spot. Knock on the door. One of
his boys answers the door, and he. I
could see him in the background. He was playing cards with some of his
buddies. And he opens the door,
doesn't say hi, doesn't say. He says, it's about

(30:29):
time, you short shit.
And I said, if you're asking, give some damn directions. I might have
been on time. Fell out laughing.
He thought it was hilarious, and I was still kind of hot.

>> Speaker C (30:41):
Yeah, you're still. I'm like, look.

>> Speaker B (30:43):
You're like, no, but seriously.

And he was, he thought it was the funniest thing ever.
Well, what I didn't know is that was
his way. Like, he wanted to know
if I was gonna be a guy that was gonna be a
yes man, if I was going to be that guy that was going to
say, oh, Michael, you know, I'm sorry. I would have been here on time
if, da da da da. because he gets that all

(31:06):
the time. And I didn't know this, but
because I was ticked off, I popped off right back at
him. And he thought that that was the
best thing ever. He's like, this is a guy that I can roll
with. And so, from that minute
on, we ended up building a relationship that,
you know, that it is what it is today.

(31:26):
and it's just, you know, I just, you
know, I have never really been afraid to
tell him how I feel about certain things. And the
crazy thing is, is a lot of the stuff
that we talk about, we almost finish each other's sentences, especially
when it comes to product creation and stuff. So we've built
a relationship, of over 30 years, and we've had,

(31:47):
you know, we've had so much to
talk about in the creative space and how we do things
that we think a lot of, like, about a lot of stuff.

>> Speaker C (31:55):
Well, and, you know, for you,
being the type of guy that you are,
driven, entrepreneurial,
now you get thrown in this nucleus, this world, a little bit
of his world.
and from the basketball, you
see this thing change. You know, there's been a couple guys

(32:16):
in the, and Ali moved the needle, Tiger
moved the needle, Jordan moves the needle,
and you pivot off that basketball. And now, next thing you
know, this whole world of golf comes into play.
I mean, not only does he have a golf course, but the
Jordan brand now is, in some respects,
synonymous with golf. So

(32:37):
for you, as a visionary, being the guy that you are,
you know, what's your forecast or future look like
to grow that brand even further into
the game of golf?

>> Speaker B (32:48):
I think the cool thing about this whole, the golf
portion of it is, is that you retired from
Nike. He started code by Gentry.

>> Speaker C (32:57):
Yeah.

>> Speaker B (32:58):
And Jordan specifically is saying, I want my guy
to run the golf side. I think that's so
neat that, like, that shows your
relationship trusting.

>> Speaker A (33:07):
Well, it's so.

>> Speaker C (33:08):
And that's a good pivot because, you know, I was going to ask you about your
brand, naturally, as I mentioned earlier, code by
Gentry.
So kind of a two part thing to just kind
of harp on a little bit, you know, your brand specifically. And then,
you know, what, you see the future for the golf business with respect to
the Jordan brand.

Yeah. So, first off, you know,
again, to your point, it was, I
was honored in a way, you know, because when I made
the decision to retire from the brand,
I just, I really wanted to do some things
that, in my opinion, is
about paying it forward to the next level of

(33:44):
creative talent that's out there. So, you
know, when I was knee deep into running
the Jordan business, we would do collaborations
with, you know, known designers and artists
and, you know, fashion folks.
and what I noticed is, was that, we would talk
to a lot of people and people that were well known, but

(34:05):
the reality of it is the creativity that a lot of those
folks were bringing weren't as strong as some of
these unknown folks that were out there. And
so when it was time for me to start what
I was going to do with my own brand, that was the impetus for
me to do something different, was to look at
these other, entities that are out there that we never,

(34:25):
ever get a shot at doing a collaboration,
and try to make some things happen on the golf side
folks like the east side golf.

>> Speaker C (34:33):
Oh, yeah.

So those guys, they came, I met them through Chris
Paul and Chris Paul's brother, CJ. And
I felt like, it was a great opportunity to
give some young gentlemen who had, a
business moxie to them, who had a lot of
the similar thinkings that we thought about the Jordan
brand, trying to evolve it to just not just a

(34:55):
performance brand, but to a lifestyle brand as well.
And so those guys were doing some things. And so I sat down with
MJDe and said, hey, look, it'd be great to kind of give
these guys a, leg up and get them started.
And then we knew we were going to start the Jordan golf
version, but we wanted to give them an opportunity up first.
So those types of things started to happen with the Jordan brand. But then

(35:15):
when I did my brand, I did it in a whole different way. And I'll
tell you about that later. But, but, yeah, so, so the,
the. In starting it, and where
I sat down with Michael, he basically
said when I told him I was going to retire, he's like, well, if
through your consulting firm, if we can work it out,
where you run with Jordan golf

(35:36):
and take it to the next level, are you
in? And so we talked about what it could mean, what it could
be. And of course, I love golf. I
love the brand. he trusted me with the brand
because at one point in my career, I left,
the Jordan group. I went to work on the Nike side.
I did some things in the Nike sportswear side and
helped build that air force one business, backup and

(35:58):
phone posits and all that. Then I moved over to
Nike golf. And because Michael had
interest in golf at that time,
but no one on the Jordan side really knew
anything about golf, he said, gee, why don't
you run golf, Jordan
golf, through the Nike side while I was over there?
And so, I started that. I kicked that off. And so we started.

(36:21):
That's when you started to see some of the projects start to
come to retail. We did it in small. We started off in. Michael
was a part of 50 greengrass
country clubs. We started in those, gave them an
opportunity to buy them, and then it started
to blow up from there. But when he
came to me after I retired and basically said,

(36:41):
would you want to do this? it
was a no brainer for me just because of my love for both the game
and the brand. And so we talked about
the vision of what it could be.
And then I fell in love with it
even more because we have a very
different position than most girlfriends.
I was at the PGA show last year,

(37:04):
and, man, if I saw another flower shirt, I might have thrown up,
so many flower shirts out there and so many different companies
out there that were doing apparel, but no one really
had, like, a true standout
position, that would separate them from everyone
else. So we talked about what the apparel is going
to be. We've already done some things with the footwear.

(37:25):
introduced a retro, you know, spike version of
that, which is obviously no brainers. Introduced a
shoe called the ADG, which stands for all the golf,
which is more of a classic type silhouette that allows
folks who aren't really into going retro route to do
something a little bit classic. And then
next year, you're going to see a crazy shoe. We

(37:46):
built a shoe, truly from an innovative standpoint,
that actually it is tested
and is proven, by professional athletes as
well as up and coming young, superstars at the college
level to actually increase club head speed,
which obviously leads to a little more distance.

>> Speaker C (38:03):
I thought, ah, you were gonna say height.

Hey, we both could use that.

>> Speaker C (38:10):
No, this is my chance.

>> Speaker B (38:13):
No, you'll be wearing nines and looking taller, but, yeah.

>> Speaker C (38:16):
Yeah.

So, yeah, so there's swing speed. Yeah.
So it actually works on
stability and, rotational
torque. And it's proven. And it
gives you, more clubhead speed and
so adds to more distance. So,
so, and that, that's on the footwear side and then on the peril side.

(38:37):
Like, I think people will be blown away when we launch
what we're going to do on the, peril side.

>> Speaker B (38:42):
That's what I'm, I'm, I'm kind of itching to
see that Jordan
golf, apparel side of things,
pop off because their stuff.
But I think there's gonna be a lot more.

Yeah.

>> Speaker B (38:56):
And, that's exciting for you guys as a company, as
a brand, because Jordan is not just a
basketball brand, it's a lifestyle
brand. And people's lifestyles are on the
golf course. And I know that you guys even did a Roger
federer tennis, shoe.
and so you guys can go any which way and
guess what? People are gonna listen when you talk.

Yeah. Well, and the great thing is, it's
authentic, you know, because Michael
plays 36 damn near every day.

>> Speaker B (39:26):
Well, we can tell you our experience.

So, I mean, it's who he
is, you know, and it's his love. And so
we still ground everything that we do, you
know, in authentic MJ, as
well as the game.

>> Speaker C (39:41):
I love that.

>> Speaker B (39:42):
I want to get back into the golf thing because we're going to have so
much to talk about with golf. But
how did you come up when you left Nike,
you obviously sat there and you probably one day you're like, I'm so bored
right now. Right. And at some
point and code by Gentry
started, you obviously have a love for fashion

(40:03):
and, footwear.
How did this all start being in the
position you were in? Some people, like, what are you doing?
Enjoy the ride. But, like he said, you're an entrepreneur.
The itch is there.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's funny cause,
I used to say, man, I'm the most overworked, retired guy in
the world. And I've
quickly realized it wasn't really a retirement, it was more of a
transition. and so,
again, I hinted to it a little bit, like, for
me, honestly, like, what I've been,

(40:37):
known for is
bringing retro to the culture,
and we call it basketball culture, which usually
incorporates music,
art, fashion and sport. When
you bring those four things together, and you have a cultural
experience. Jordan has been

(40:58):
a huge part of that. And so me, you know, sitting
down and working on the first retrositive, you know, running
the business and making sure there was an opportunity to bring those back the
right way and tell new stories so that people could
appreciate those stories. That was the
past. after I
retired, someone reached out to me to do,
a book. And I was like, I'm not

(41:20):
really into doing a book. I'm like, especially if I
got to write it, I'm like, there's so much stuff that I
forgot that I. Right, yeah, I just can't.
And they said, well, to be honest with you, we don't even really.
We think the book is the second part they want to do.
So I signed it, actually signed a deal with Disney,
and they're doing a documentary. It's gonna come out next

(41:41):
year. so. And so
sick. Yeah. So there's that. That's gonna be pretty cool.
But the reason that I really wanted to
do it is because I want. I
feel like the legacy should move beyond
just bringing retros, introducing retros
to a culture. And that,

(42:01):
for me, means being able to pay it forward to
the next generation. And so, that
was the main reason I started my brand. So, for
instance, I used to sit down
with athletes, and, we
would find out what the athletes into. We go through his
closet, whether it's MJ or whoever.

(42:22):
Kevin Garnett, at one time, you know, all the athletes that I've
worked with in the past, and we would
try to take something from their life
and veneer it on a product, tell
an authentic story, and if you
veneer it correctly, you create something that's unique and
different, and it becomes a spark for people to

(42:42):
ask questions as to why you did what you did.
And so we would introduce that. We'd sell the product,
the athletes would get royalties against it,
and, company would make money. And so everybody was
good. Well, I was like, well, how
come that. Why can't that format work
for young creatives? So if I create my own

(43:03):
brand and I find these young
creatives that are out there, who will never probably have
a chance to start their own brands or might find
it difficult to start their own brands, I sit down,
do a collaboration with them. We built
my company, builds the product for him, we sell the
product for them, and we give them the

(43:23):
royalties the same way that a signature athlete would get
royalties in the sport world. So now that
that individual has a chance to, you know,
either start his own company or if she wants
to go to design school, they now
can use that as membership money to go to design school.
So that was a huge part of
why I wanted to start the brand. And, And I also thought that there

(43:46):
was just a. There was a niche, you know,
I love as much as I love the, Air force ones and Air
Jordan ones. With the world kind of transitioning,
like, all these young millennials were
moving into this space where, you know,
they. They have to be. They're graduating from school, they're going to
be young professionals, and they got to look

(44:06):
a little bit more professional. And so sometimes air
force ones and air Jordan ones, while everybody's wearing it
from a fashion standpoint with a sport coat, sometimes they
just don't really.

>> Speaker C (44:17):
Yeah.

So if I could create a comfortable product that
truly worked that way, then to me,
that's the birth of what code is. And code is really
about meeting the dress code in
any environment. And so, And so that's why
I like.

>> Speaker C (44:32):
Okay. Yeah, I was. That's what I was gonna. I didn't know if it was an
acronym for something or.

Yeah, it's. We. What we like to do is
we feel like we can, give you the code to
any environment. So any of the shoes that. That
we create in our line, you'll see they had taken
on three different personalities. One, we can do it in an
all white version, and it'll look like a luxury
sneaker, but then we can do it in all
black, and we change the materials up on it, and

(44:59):
you can wear it with a tuxedo. You can dress
it up, same shoe. Then we do
Runway fashion show versions of them. So if
we want to, you know, guys going out with his girl
or going out into fashion, you
know, make, a statement, put spikes and crazy.
Yes, and crazy material. So that same shoe can take

(45:20):
on three different personalities, and that allows
that person to be dress for any of the
occasions. And so we're gonna look
to expand to women's, line,
probably early next year. We've got some new models
coming, later part of this year.

>> Speaker B (45:35):
So I saw
them for the first time in person. I've obviously checked the site out, but
I. What you were saying, that's what I was thinking is that, like,
you can wear with a sport coat or you can wear with a nice t shirt,
or you, can wear it with a suit if you want to be a little fashion
forward. So that's really
cool. yeah, I gotta get you guys.

Some cause, comfort wise, you'll be blown away. Like,
I think that's been one of the biggest things. Like, people.
Well, I intentionally started
with knowing, the business I started
in a place where I know people,
they kind of, like, take for granted. So
the sock liner, what you stand on, you slide

(46:15):
into the shoe, and you literally stand on top of
most, people. What happens is you design a shoe and you
have these target margins that you want to make on this particular
product. You create it, you get the shoe back,
and nine times out of ten, it's
overpriced. So the first thing that most companies
do is take the sock liner out and put a cheap one

(46:35):
in, just because they know you got to stand on something.
But they don't pay really attention because they want
to make money. And people, they. They gravitate
towards what they see on the outside, not necessarily on
the inside. Well, I flipped it. I'm like, I'm
gonna start with a sock liner. I'm not gonna sacrifice
the sock liner, because I want people, when they stand on something,
I want them to, as soon as they put them on and be like,

(46:58):
wow, I can go all day in these. And
then I did simple things. Like, all of
them are done with this red leather top cloth, because I
want people to feel like they're walking on the red carpet whenever they're
wearing a pair of my shoes. So little storytelling,
little comfort stories that.

>> Speaker B (47:14):
You know, like, you don't realize how much detail
and background goes into that. Like, you would never think that.
So it's interesting you say that maybe I'm wrong here,
and you can tell me I'm wrong. Probably. My, wife tells me
that I, feel like the AJ
one golf shoe sock
liner is more comfortable than the

(47:35):
AJ one street shoe.

Really? You know, it's so funny.

>> Speaker B (47:39):
do you think that that's because of the bottom
on the golf shoe having a little more traction?

Yeah, I think a little bit. A little bit there. we had
to construct that shoe a little bit different than the
inline street shoe, mainly because we had to make a
waterproof stability, too. Yeah. Had to
have it a little bit more stable. We actually, it
typically runs about a half size larger because of some of the
things that we had to do construction wise. So,

(48:05):
I think, you know, especially if people have a little bit wider
foot, they find that it's a little bit more comfortable.
again, if the people don't necessarily
have a wide foot, they usually take it down a half size. That's what we
talked about earlier. And then they're good. I've heard
it, and I've heard it both ways. Some people say, ah, these
aren't as comfortable as the inline ones. So.
So it goes both ways.

>> Speaker B (48:27):
Yeah, that's, that's crazy. I mean, I don't know.

I just, but if you're, think about it, you're probably
walking around in those consistently a lot more
than you're walking around in a pair of, you know,
inline shoes. Like, you wear them for a little bit, you walk, you'll stop.
But you're 4 hours on a golf.

>> Speaker B (48:43):
Course at one point. I did that.

>> Speaker C (48:45):
Today was 5 hours.

You got stuck.

>> Speaker B (48:49):
yeah, buddy, for you.
So let me say something, gentry. These?

Yeah, yeah.

>> Speaker C (48:54):
Watch yourself.

>> Speaker B (48:55):
But the design on these.

Yep.

>> Speaker B (48:57):
I think this, this is one of my favorite aj ones that
you, you've done.

Yeah. Thanks.

>> Speaker B (49:03):
the double logo, patent leather.
I say stingray.

Yep.

>> Speaker B (49:07):
That's what it is, the stingray.

Yeah.

>> Speaker B (49:10):
It's just badass. So where
did the inspiration, where does gentry
flying on an airplane, come up
with this?

So, so what we try to do with, with,
what we try to do is every year we take the
majors and we try to create something
cool around the majors. And
this one was a, ah, story that was going to be around,
the masters. Now, if you know anything about
Augusta national, they are like the strictest

(49:41):
group folks to work with. You can't do anything that
if you can do something that's, you know, in those colorways,
they're trying to get a piece or
fight you on it or whatever. So for me, it was
about how do we tell stories? And so
we like to do things with the folks on the Nike side
to help stories, come

(50:02):
to life in somewhat of a collaborative
way. so the story that
Nike was working on, on their side
for the particular masters was
this, story called metamorphosis.
And so they had created their version of what
metamorphosis was. And so

(50:22):
I said, okay, well, what I'd like to do is create
our version of metamorphosis. And how it's going to come to
play is allowing people to
appreciate the past
as the past metamorphosizes into the
future. So what I did
was I took the other shoe, that's the complimentary shoe to
that, which is an air Jordan nine.

(50:44):
And if you think about the traditions
of golf and you look at how
far the history goes, and if you ever been to Augusta national, you'll
see that they store all the
players, old clubs, and all that
stuff, at the on the facility.
Well, if you look at some of those clubs, they were

(51:05):
all made out of, wood.

>> Speaker C (51:07):
Yeah.

So you had hickory, you had ash, you had all these
different woods that made up the other shoes that made
up, those, those, those, clubs.
So I sat down and talked to these
guys that, are well known, couple guys from a,
company called happy life. And they're
really good group of guys. They do, wood carvings. They

(51:29):
love the Jordan brand, and they don't stain
the woods that they create. They find these natural
woods that actually become the same color
as the actual item. So if you did air
Jordan Chicago color, they would find a wood
that is that exact colorway.

>> Speaker C (51:45):
Wow.

and sculpt it into that. And so we sat down and started
talking and vibing. Had a great vibe. And so they
built, they worked with me on. On
a design of a shoe that was actually.
If it were to be made out of wood, what would it look
like? So the other shoe, the AJ nine, was that
brown one.

>> Speaker B (52:03):
Yeah.

Saw the brown one.

>> Speaker B (52:04):
Yep. It's like, mimics.

Yeah, it mimics the wood.

>> Speaker B (52:08):
Looks wood.

Yeah, it looks like wood. And we had a lot of, you know, a lot of
details to it, to the soul, to the sock
liner. You see all these, you know, wood carvings, the grain,
all that stuff. So that represented the traditions of
the game. Now the metamorphosis, or the
future, was going to be moving people
into a new state, a state that is more

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athletic, but yet a little more
sophisticated and a little more
futuristic. And that's how this AJ one came about,
is just taking a sneaker
approach that can be worn on the course or
off the course. Bringing into the
future, you get the iridescent, you know, double
swoosh. You get stingray material.

>> Speaker B (52:49):
Love this.

Yeah. So I love that in the future.

>> Speaker B (52:52):
I love that one shoe.

>> Speaker C (52:53):
Those are really. Honest to God, I'm not.

>> Speaker B (52:55):
There's a bad for a left
shoe, and I only had to pack one.

>> Speaker C (53:01):
A guy's about to metamorphose into his,
his new golf game with two, plates and
a couple screws for the first time. How long did it take you to save
up for those, bud?

>> Speaker B (53:12):
So I'm going to tell a cool story about
the AJ nine, the Pinehurst edition.
I ordered them because I wanted a nice white with
gray shoe. And so I get
them. I order them, I get them, and I'm like. And I opened the
box. There's this little thing in there. Little.

It's like a card. Yeah.

>> Speaker B (53:31):
And it tells the story of the shoe.

>> Speaker C (53:33):
Yeah.

>> Speaker B (53:33):
Which I thought was really cool, because, I mean, most people probably didn't read it,
but I'm a nerd, and I read it, and it basically was
talking about the tobacco road of Pinehurst.
Well, you know, with my family being living in Pinehurst in
a few months. Not my family, my mom and dad.
but I'm like, I need these. And I start
reading it. I'm, like, looking at the shoe. I'm like,

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that looks like a damn cigar. Bandaid on the tongue. I'm
like, oh, my God, the shoelaces, they have, like,
matches on the end of it. And I'm like. I
text him. I said, but I said, I just got the
nineties. I said, these are my favorite shoes. I ordered
two pairs, boys. Because whenever they
go away, like, shoe for me, because

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I genuinely love a cigar. And for me,
yeah, it's incredible.
It's perfect for me. Right? And, like, that. It's so
cool to me that there's that story about
Pinehurst, and there's so.

Many, like, little gems that people
may not have. Even you might have been caught. So. So
again, with that story, I basically was sitting down
with MJ M, and I said, hey, you've played there. I was like, what's
the first thing you think of about playing there he goes.
Tabletop greens. He's, like, some of the
hardest greens in the world to hit. And so then

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we started talking about, okay, when you drive
from North Carolina to
Pinehurst, what route do you take?
And so he told me the route that he takes. And then I said,
well, what's. What's the best score you ever shot there?
And he said, 74. So
when you talk about the road to get there, that was
the reason to do a white gray version, because the

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gray was meant to represent asphalt. So you
see the texturing around the gray part of it
that represents asphalt.

>> Speaker B (55:15):
I was wondering why that gray was like.

It's like, texture, the
asphalt. Then if you look on the back, you
know, you get those route 76
signs. It says route 74 to represent MJ's. M
74.

>> Speaker B (55:31):
So let me ask you, before you point, I know you're pointing
out the little emblem on the back. Is that meant
to be a lit cigar end
with the red being red and brown on the front on the
top? So in the back, you got a little
emblem here that's red. It's the Jordan.

Oh, yeah. No, no. So that. That actually
is a part of the original shoe. So the
original shoe, the air Jordan nine, originally was
represented kind of the most global version
of all of the air Jordan collections. So on the original
one, you see. You see this globe on that one, we meant
to make it look like the dimples on a bass on

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a golf ball. Oh.

>> Speaker B (56:10):
To me, it looks like a, bird cigar. You're, like, smoking a
cigar.

Yeah, it kind of does look like, but,
yeah, it was.

>> Speaker C (56:18):
Those are the ones you have in the car.

>> Speaker B (56:19):
Right yesterday.

Like, I gotta see.

>> Speaker A (56:21):
I want to see.

>> Speaker C (56:22):
Now that I know the story. Yeah, that's badass.

Yeah.

>> Speaker B (56:25):
And so that's the
lace.

Yeah.

>> Speaker B (56:29):
Is so, like, cool.

>> Speaker C (56:32):
Yeah.

>> Speaker B (56:32):
Literally, there's. There's small details on the lace ends that
you're like, why would I put the white laces on? I threw the white laces away
because what I don't need.

>> Speaker C (56:40):
Yeah, no, I mean, that's. That's
genius. Brilliant.

But see, you know, but again,
when I. Part of my
creation process is to. Is to
tell original stories. And I tell this story to
young creatives. If you think about
when you go to a museum and you see a painting,
Picasso, when you see a

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painting, you look at his
artwork, and you'll see these crazy geometric
shapes. Like, you know, geometric shapes all over. You
got dark areas, bright areas. You got eyeball over
here. Eyeball over. Like, just, you look at it like,
okay, what was this smoking?

>> Speaker B (57:24):
You know?

>> Speaker C (57:25):
Yeah. Where to get it.

Yeah. And it's worth millions, you know?
But then when you read the composition
that's next to the painting that talks about what Picasso
was going through, through in his life at that time, you start to
understand that there were a lot of dark times in his life.
And the eyeball sitting in that dark area is him being
able to have a vision of the light. And

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now you start to see how that all comes in, and you're like,
damn. Okay. that thing looked crazy when I saw it, but now I
read the story behind it, and now it makes sense.
And so that's what I always try to do with
my team. And as we create products, I want to
build authentic story so that if you
don't like it, at least if you understand the

(58:07):
story behind it, you might learn to appreciate
why it is what it is.

>> Speaker C (58:11):
Yes.

And most of the time, you. Most of the time, when
people understand the real story behind, they're like, I love this
even more. You know, I didn't like it. Now I do.

>> Speaker C (58:20):
Yeah.

So.

>> Speaker B (58:21):
So this, again, this is why our podcast is called
chasing birdies, because everybody's chasing birdies on the golf
course. Like, you guys did today, you guys. but
your whole story, even if you did not
golf, you're chasing Bernie. You're
always chasing to do the next best thing or whatever. I
don't care what you do, but for your last 40

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years of you being an entrepreneur, you were chasing
birdies 100%. And so that's why this
is what we're doing.
And so now that we've gotten your
story, we need to talk golf, man. Like, and we need to
know your love of the game. When it started, did it. Did mj
m basically force you to play golf?

No, no, no.

>> Speaker B (59:01):
Did you love the game before?

You know, it's funny. Like,
I think my dad actually tried to get me to play
it when I was probably about eight or nine years
old. And I was too into basketball
and too into football. And so I was like,
I can't do this. And then, but I, but
I, you know, I picked it up because I played

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a lot of sports, and so I hit the ball, and,
you know, I had a decent swing at the time, but I was like, I
got other things to work on than this. And
then, really, it wasn't until after
college that I really started to play the
game a little bit more and really respect and
appreciate it. And, you know, just like you guys, you
know, you can go to a range and,

(59:45):
you know, shank the ball and hit a bunch of bad shots, but
when you hit that sweet spot, m there's
not a better feeling than, you know,
hitting it, right.

>> Speaker C (59:55):
Yeah.

And so I got addicted, you
know, and the more I started to hit the
sweet spot a little more, and I became more and more
addicted to it. And so I started playing it
after college. And, you know,
what I, what I quickly learned is that.
And this happened for me, too,

(01:00:16):
with my father as he started to get older. We would
play every Saturday morning. And
where are you going to spend 4 hours of
quality time with, in.

>> Speaker C (01:00:29):
That case, people you love.

>> Gentry Humphrey (01:00:31):
But in other cases, great friends,
in some cases, folks that I've met for the first time,
that is, this trip has been phenomenal. And
so, typically on the golf
course, you're gonna meet good people.

>> Speaker C (01:00:45):
Yeah.

I mean, every now. And you get some knuckleheads.

>> Speaker C (01:00:47):
Every now and then you get a bad egg.

Yeah. Yeah. But for the most part, yeah, you
meet great people, and so. And you learn a lot about
people, like, you know, the knuckleheads that
you learn real quick. Yeah. If they're cheating out there on the golf course, they're probably
cheating in life.

>> Speaker B (01:01:01):
Yeah.

all those types of things, you know, you
learn real fast. Like, okay, so
I just fell in love with the game and,
everything that it's about. And honestly, like,
you're battling with yourself. Like, you're. Yeah, you will beat
your opponents, but at the end of the day, it's the
core. Yeah.

>> Speaker B (01:01:21):
You versus course.

Yeah. Is you in the course? Are you against your head? Your own
head?

>> Speaker B (01:01:24):
Oh, my God.

Trying to get out of your own head.

>> Speaker C (01:01:27):
And I think golf, where it is
professionally, obviously has some. There's some hair on,
needs to be trimmed down a little bit. But from a leisure
perspective, I mean, what a lot of these guys that have
used their platform, for example, Steph Curry,
you know, these guys that are professionals
in other realms, but they've really grown. The game
of golf. I mean, they put it out there, and

(01:01:50):
what does that do? It attracts the youth. And if
it's. If the youth isn't interested,
then. Then we have no future. So.
Yeah, so in that perspective, I love
where the game is. it's. There's nothing like it, man.
So go play golf.

>> Speaker B (01:02:09):
It's true, because, I mean, to be honest,
we met you for the first time, and we threw you into
a group of 38 guys. You had no clue. And you're probably
thinking, what the hell? Like, who are all these yo yos?
And everyone's having a great time,
everybody's getting along. It's not like we're saying, hey, you're going to go
shopping with this person over there. You're like, no, I'm not
golfing. You're like, let's do it.

>> Speaker C (01:02:30):
Yeah.

>> Speaker B (01:02:30):
And I mean, back to what he was saying. These other
athletes, 1520 years ago, athletes did
not golf. I'm not playing golf.
Back to our trip. We've, we've, you know, we'll get into the grove
23, which is the day we're there. You
think about the athletes that were there, scattered
throughout that, the different sports that they

(01:02:51):
played and the names that were there, how big they
were.

>> Speaker C (01:02:55):
I mean, you had me. You had you.

>> Speaker B (01:02:56):
Yeah, exactly.

But you don't get any better than
that.

>> Speaker B (01:03:01):
But you look around, you're like, golf is
in really good position because of these. Look at all these people
from different backgrounds, different sports. They're here
playing off and the time of their life with their buddies.

>> Speaker C (01:03:12):
Yep.

But, you know, we gotta
continue to evolve it because it's
such a traditional game that, you know, a
lot of folks, like, fight, you know, fight
to evolve it. And, you know, I give a lot of
these,
country clubs some credit because

(01:03:33):
they're under. They're realizing that, you know, some
of their old members are starting to move
on. Yeah. And in order to
stay relevant with a new
consumer that has disposable income,
you know, you got to be you. You got to move with the times. and
so that's kind of why the brand is actually,

(01:03:53):
you know, is in Jordan is trying to get
people to feel like they can
represent their authentic selves out on the course. They don't
have to, you know, be something that they're really not,
you know? And so you got athletes, to your point,
that those guys think about it
like, the game is so
difficult to master. When you're a professional

(01:04:15):
athlete, you're always in constant pursuit of
perfection.
And to master it is difficult in whatever
sport. So it's kind of natural for those guys
to get off of their field of play or
court of play and then evolve into
the game of golf, because now it's something
else for them to try to master and, you know,

(01:04:36):
shoot. We all know you can be banging the drive,
you know, one day and snap, hooking that mother the
next day, you know, or putting, whatever.
And so the constant pursuit of perfection, I think those
athletes, you know, really respect and
appreciate. Appreciate it for what it is.

>> Speaker B (01:04:53):
It is. I mean, it's so much fun
to play the game of golf,
with your friends and be competitive and,
travel the world to play golf. I mean, you're in a
farmington, Pennsylvania. You never thought you're gonna be here.
But again, the game of golf,
we probably wouldn't be sitting here with you. So for

(01:05:16):
us, it's all because of golf.

That's right. That's right.

>> Speaker B (01:05:19):
So.

And, you know, it is super global. I mean, I
was. Here's how crazy might
think I am, but I was, when I was working at Nike, we had
this thing that we called sabbaticals. And so we could
take up to, like, nine weeks off if you ran your
vacation in with it. In. And so I
ended one of my trips, in on a trip in

(01:05:40):
Asia at one of the factories. And I started
sabbatical at the end of that trip. And
there's a course in, Taiwan called
Mission Hills. And they have
1018 whole golf courses
in one facility.
1010. So my
goal was to play all ten of those

(01:06:01):
in three days.

>> Speaker C (01:06:03):
So you.

>> Speaker B (01:06:08):
You are Michael Jordan's buddy.

>> Speaker C (01:06:10):
So, no, I knew how many holes was.

>> Speaker B (01:06:12):
I'm saying it like that.

>> Speaker C (01:06:13):
He can do that. How many can you get? In a day.

Yeah, it was crazy. And they. When I
got there, they had shut down, few of the
courses, I couldn't play all of them, but in three days,
I ended up getting in 108 holes.
And so. So I was in switch.

>> Speaker C (01:06:30):
Well, you could if you. Yeah, if you were dyslexic, you
switch that eight and zero around you. Yeah. 180.

Yeah.

>> Speaker C (01:06:36):
108. One eight.

>> Speaker B (01:06:37):
Insane.

Yes.

>> Speaker B (01:06:39):
That's crazy, though.

>> Speaker C (01:06:41):
I see those videos all the time of the. Of the Asia, in
Asia, the golf. And obviously the game's grown over
there. But I mean, they.

Have you ever played over?

>> Speaker C (01:06:50):
Never.

If you go play in Japan, it is the craziest thing.
It is an all day event. Like, you go there, you play the front
nine, and then after the front nine, you're
probably spending at least 2
hours eating, talking, whatever, and then they just
go back, out.

>> Speaker C (01:07:04):
I was like, I know that culture. That's one area I would
love to explore. I mean, I'm basically at
China wall in downtown Morgantown getting some takeout.
That's.

That's my.

>> Speaker C (01:07:16):
So I need. But I do. I want to experience that real time. I want
to experience that.

It's great.

>> Speaker C (01:07:20):
And no, I mean, you know, with. With the case of you,
for all the travel we discussed earlier, how much
travel you've done, I mean, certainly you're gonna be. Your
ears are gonna be open to saying, hey, where can I pick it up today? Where
can I get around?

Yeah, I actually have a set of clubs
in Vietnam.

>> Speaker C (01:07:37):
No way.

So if I can know, finish working on
my product line and. And go hit
them afterwards. I do.

>> Speaker C (01:07:47):
So we. You obviously are Grove
23. Well, you play
there.

Yeah, I play there. But honestly, the guys that
are responsible, I have a really good friend who, the GM of there is a guy
named Kenwyan. He's phenomenal. And
obviously MJ M and him are really tight as well. So
those guys. I'm just blessed to be, you
know, with those guys and indulge in the game the
way. But those are the
guys that make that place tick.

>> Speaker C (01:08:14):
Well, it in, it ticks. I mean, it's awesome.

>> Speaker B (01:08:17):
But that's the thing that people don't realize. People probably
think MJ just shows up, plays golf.

>> Speaker C (01:08:24):
Oh, he's on it. But I want to know when we
went where there, is the drone thing real
or is that fake?

The drone thing is real. It doesn't happen often. And it
happened more early on.

>> Speaker C (01:08:35):
Okay.

Now, but, It has.

>> Speaker C (01:08:37):
It has happened. That has happened.

Okay. Yeah, but that. But if. But
like if we ever go there and together and
we get a chance. But, like, I'd love to, like, walk you
around because again, the same way
that I tell these stories about the shoes, like,
that place is built the same exact way. Like
everything has a purpose and a meaning. Like

(01:08:59):
every painting, every, you know, piece of
architect, that's, you know, sketched out on the wall. Like
every single thing has a reason for
being there. And when you see it and you know the story behind it,
you really respect it and appreciate.

>> Speaker C (01:09:11):
Yeah. modern architecture really interests me. And
that clubhouse is crazy. Is
ridiculous.

Did you notice how the elephant print on certain,
like, the. The elephant print
is. Is printed on a. A, glass,
overhang? And in the mornings
you don't. You won't see it reflect off the wall,
but at night, you see it reflect off a wall. In the
mornings, there's another, side that. Where the sun

(01:09:38):
hits and you'll see it reflect off of the concrete.
All of that stuff was very purposeful. And it's
just cool graphics that.

>> Speaker C (01:09:46):
Yeah. I think I noticed on the outside of
the waterfall was there. Is that where one of
that light. And I was like, yeah. Like, Nick,
we were waiting for our uber.

>> Speaker B (01:09:56):
Why don't you show us around, bud?

super cool. Yeah.

>> Speaker B (01:10:01):
Like, even, even the detailing there,
I noticed playing, you know, we put the
t markers. Six rings.

Yeah.

>> Speaker B (01:10:09):
Six sets of tees.

Yeah.

>> Speaker B (01:10:11):
Every color of tees is, you know, his.
His, Laney.

Yeah.

>> Speaker B (01:10:15):
Chicago bulls color. Charlotte hornets colors.
UNC colors. Every detail is.
Every detail. There is a detail and everything.

Yeah. And they're used. So those six rings, like,
like you'll have a distance to the,
to the pen. And you have a distance
to the front of the green on those six rings too.
I don't know if you noticed that, but, yeah, it'll have sets.
And then. And then the other cool thing is, you know,
they can make that. You get a new scorecard

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every single day. Scorecard changes every day.

>> Speaker B (01:10:48):
That's a nick was telling us it's so cool.

They can move the tee boxes.

>> Speaker B (01:10:52):
Never the same based on the wind.

And, and then it's built to where you can. You
know, if you literally wanted to play twelve holes,
you can still kind of end up like right
clubhouse or you won't play six holes. Yeah, it's
just.

>> Speaker C (01:11:05):
It's strategically detail.

>> Speaker B (01:11:08):
I love
1516 1718 there, you make it or
break it a, Gamblers four holes, 15 m
150 the middle of green. Where we played from. I don't know where we
played from. 150, the middle of green 16,
drivable par 417, reachable par
518, a dog.

Ah.

>> Speaker B (01:11:30):
All of a sudden, you're playing. You're playing.
And then these four holes, you're like, this is where it can change
very quickly.

Yeah.

>> Speaker B (01:11:36):
And I think that was done for a reason.

>> Speaker C (01:11:39):
Well, I tell you this much, and I know we'll
wrap up here shortly because we are appreciative of your time,
but, you had yourself
a good little partner today. Our good buddy junior Hess. You're in a
chasing birdies two man event, and you're in the hunt right now.

Hey, I'll take that, man.

>> Speaker C (01:11:54):
You're in the hunt.

Let's take it back. Yeah, I'll take that. I'll take that.
And this format, anything can happen in
amateur golf.

>> Speaker A (01:12:01):
Yeah.

>> Speaker C (01:12:01):
Four shots is like half a shot.

Really?

>> Speaker B (01:12:03):
John Barry. Like, again, JB John
Barry. I don't know if he has to fight him for the last.

>> Speaker C (01:12:10):
He looks like a peacock right now, walking around with his feathers
all.
Tomorrow's the day.

Hey, we're gonna give it a shot, man. We ham and
egg did really, really well today. so, hey, hopefully we
can do that tomorrow.

>> Speaker C (01:12:25):
Well, I can't wait to peg it with you one day.

Yeah, man.

>> Speaker C (01:12:27):
And let's do it, man.

I love it. Like, again, as we talked about, this
is a, great friendship and
relationship that won't stop here, you
know? I mean, you guys have been so
hospitable. It's been amazing. And I
appreciate kind of you guys even just reaching out. Well,
hey, it was awesome.

>> Speaker C (01:12:46):
We appreciate you, and I'm very welcome.

>> Speaker B (01:12:47):
Yeah, I appreciate you even responding.

Well, I'm glad because I don't really do a lot of my
social media stuff. I have a person who does all my stuff, and so when she
told me about it, I was like, let's look into
this.

>> Speaker B (01:13:01):
Yeah, I signed a message. I said, he's never gonna
answer, but whatever, it's fine. And 2
hours later, she's like, he's really interested. Can you email us
details? I'm like, yeah,
here we go. Yeah. And, like,
again, neme, they've been tremendous
this week. It's a special place here. It's a little.

(01:13:21):
I'm glad we've seen a slice of your heaven down in
Florida.

Yeah.

>> Speaker B (01:13:25):
And this is a slice of our. Our heaven up here. That's very
special to both of us.

For real.

>> Speaker B (01:13:31):
So for.

Hey, this. This place is special because we were
driving up. I ain't gonna lie. I was like,
where we got. No, I'm not sure about this. Yeah,
he's hyping this. This thing up. pretty good.

>> Speaker B (01:13:45):
But you get here
phenomenal, and, honestly,
there's not much you can't do. Where we're going to the peak,
there's three pools. There's axe throwing. There's,
bowling, there's arcade. Don't worry. My son will just throw it on his
tab.
I told him last night, I said, parker's out there.

(01:14:05):
Everybody's bowling on Parker's tab.

>> Speaker C (01:14:07):
Yeah. My man walked out of the bowling alley
to the pool with bowling shoes on. I'm like, but
take them off.
So our last segment of the show,
presented by betnardi Golf. Check him out
online@betnardi.com. phenomenal pedestrians.

Good. Those are good people, man. People.

>> Speaker C (01:14:26):
this is a tap in segment. My man's gonna ask you four questions
that demand your quick response.

Okay.

>> Speaker C (01:14:32):
It doesn't have to be quick.

>> Speaker B (01:14:33):
Yeah. Okay.

>> Speaker C (01:14:35):
I mean, questions.

>> Speaker B (01:14:36):
All right, Gentry, what advice would you give yourself
as a kid?

I I would
say, make sure that
you continue to
strive to be the best that you can be in
anything that you choose to do. Know
that there's nothing that you can't do if
you put your mind to it.
Treat people with the utmost respect,

(01:15:03):
and you'll gain respect.
and probably,
just know that,
being able to pay it
forward to some individual is
what makes life sustainable.

>> Speaker B (01:15:21):
Yeah, for sure. And I'm a firm believer of
don't burn bridges.

That's right. That's right. 100%.

>> Speaker B (01:15:28):
your favorite golf experience.

This is a hard one just because,
like, I have had, being in the position
I've been. I've been so blessed, like,
the people that I've.

>> Speaker A (01:15:42):
I can imagine.

I mean, like,
playing golf with Nelson man. with, I'm sorry.
With barack, obama met Nelson, man. I mean,
like, muhammad ali, like, all these tiger
woods, like, all these, like, I have
experiences that I couldn't put a price tag on. So this is
kind of hard for me because, you know,
sometimes, like, you know, I mentioned

(01:16:07):
earlier, just being able to play golf with my dad for 4 hours,
that's super special. But I've also
had probably an ultimate foursome, with, you know,
I'm in a meeting with Michael. He says, hey, let's go play. We go
play. And it was hilarious. So, we go
drive to this course, and on the way to the
course, Kobe Bryant pulled up next to

(01:16:27):
us, and we're like, what's up, kobe. Like, we're just talking to
Kobe and we're like, what do you guys do? And it was just
so flukish. Yeah. And so he gets
the light and he goes a certain way. We go our own way. We get to the
chorus and I didn't know who we were playing with. and
when we get there, we're playing with Tiger, and
John Cook. So it was m me,

(01:16:47):
MJ, tiger, John Cook, you know, in a
foursome.

>> Speaker C (01:16:51):
What?

Yeah. So, so
we're playing the back nine first, and
there's this hard dog leg left and right
in the kind of the center of the dog leg. There's this
huge house. So I hadn't played there. And so I'm, I
asked tiger, I said, hey, like, where am I going? He goes, well, it's
a hard dog leg left because if you see that
trap out there, if you hit towards that trap and you're right behind the

(01:17:14):
trap, you'll have like 100 and 2130 in.
I'm like, okay. So
I go. And I hit. He gets up and he hits
it over the house, over the corner of
the dog leg. I was like, where is that? He
goes, we get to the green. He's like
15ft for the pin. I like, this is
ridiculous. And he ends up. He ends up

(01:17:37):
shooting 59 that day. And he double
bogey the 18th hole.

>> Speaker C (01:17:41):
No way.

It was, it was cra. And I've seen him do
stuff like, like, just
ridiculous. Like, we're on the range
and he throws the ball up. He feels like, no, he
throws like he's got, like a handful of balls. Six, seven balls. Throws them
up in the air. They all land. I'm like,
what are you doing? He's like, well, the
goal is to make this pattern

(01:18:06):
of these six, seven balls. The way they
sit here. I need them to sit around
that pin. That's at 130 in the exact same
pattern.
Freaking from what, when he did it,
from. From what I could tell now it's 130 yards
away. It looked almost identical.

>> Speaker C (01:18:26):
That is insane.

But he could. But he could do that. He would. There were. We
were in the same spot at one time and he said, what'd you get for
distance? I said, 124, 125. He
goes like, what? He goes, well, which is
it? 124, 125. And he was
dead serious. I was like, dude, your game is at a whole
nother level than mine. Like, I'm just happy to be close, bro,
but so crazy experience.

>> Speaker A (01:18:49):
Yeah.

>> Speaker C (01:18:49):
So he does.

>> Speaker B (01:18:50):
Yeah.

>> Speaker C (01:18:50):
I mean, yeah. Multiple.

Yeah.

>> Speaker B (01:18:54):
Favorite Jordan shoe you have designed.

Oh, Mandy.
this is a hard one, too, because, you know,
the pressure of
continuing the legacy of the air Jordan shoe
is. Was always tremendous. Like,
there's no more pressure than that because you got all
eyes on you. So the

(01:19:19):
real deal is, like, they all become
kind of like your children and you would never see which is
your. So they're all kind of there.
But if I had to pick one, I would
say the air Jordan eleven and the white black
Concord. But, for different reasons. Like, to me,
when I first saw that shoe, like, you

(01:19:39):
could not tell me it wasn't the
greatest sneaker of all time. When I first saw it and no
one came in and no one had seen it, I
was like, this thing is incredible. It
was incredible because, ah, it just moved in
a different direction than anything else. And it was so
just sophisticated. It, like, worked with their. I was
like, this shoe was just phenomenal. But

(01:20:02):
back then, we would go out and we have all these
focus groups and we would go all over the world and share it with
kids and get their opinions. And
90% of the kids could not
stand pat leather because, you know, they had only seen Pat
leather on tuxedo shoes. And so
usually we take those focus groups really
serious and we go out

(01:20:24):
and make changes. We sat down and
with 90% of people saying, take it off,
it could have been the first shoe that, I mean, it could
have never happened. We stuck to our
guns. Michael loved it. Michael actually wanted to put patent
leather on the nines, way back in the day. Then he
retired and the tens went. So we came back to it on

(01:20:44):
eleven. And it has a really functional
purpose that is meaningful from a performance
standpoint. But because
we stuck to our guns and now it's the
all time sneaker of all time.
That's why it's more my favorite shoe.

>> Speaker B (01:21:01):
That's so cool.

>> Speaker C (01:21:03):
That's a good, good story behind that last question.

Yep.

>> Speaker B (01:21:06):
What are you chasing?

Oh, man, these days I'm chasing.
Continue to chase dreams. continue to chase
perfection. Continue to chase,
my code business. Trying to take that to another
level.
yeah, just constant pursuit of
perfection.

>> Speaker B (01:21:27):
I love it.

I do.

>> Speaker B (01:21:28):
I love it, man. My man.

Thank you, Gentry.

>> Speaker C (01:21:31):
My man, thank you so much. You guys out there listening,
check out gentry code by gentry google,
check out his shoe collection and also check him out on Instagram.
What is gentry 23?

>> Speaker B (01:21:41):
Yeah.

Tw zero three.

>> Speaker B (01:21:42):
You ever heard of that number?

>> Speaker C (01:21:45):
My man, it was awesome.

>> Speaker B (01:21:47):
Thank you.

>> Speaker C (01:21:47):
Thank you, Gentry.

>> Speaker B (01:21:53):
And I got to be honest, I have to say this is one of my
favorite episodes we had because we all wear the
product that he designs now that he's
involved with Gentry and Jordan. And like
I said, his own brand code by Gentry.
I mean, you talk about being an entrepreneur. He's that.
And it's exciting to see how he can

(01:22:14):
handle everything, dude, because he's got his code by Gentry, yet he's still
with the VP of Jordan golf. He did all that stuff
with Jordan. I love the story how
Michael Jordan felled him out for the first
time.

>> Speaker A (01:22:26):
That he methadore, made him walk around. No,
in. Yeah. Incredible. I mean, just
awesome. career. And the shoes code by gentry.
Shoes are absolutely one of the most comfortable pair
of shoes.

>> Speaker B (01:22:38):
They're badass.

>> Speaker A (01:22:39):
I've had there. They are badass, clearly. So
make sure you check that out. Now, for me, the Jordan golf
shoe, I always have said they are extremely comfortable on
a golf course. There's no two ways about it. Now, you are a little more
technical with respect to the design, the
models, you know, the twos, the eights, the sixes, the elevens, the
twelve. Like, I I still don't know what those are.

(01:22:59):
I mean, I do, but I don't not like you. So someone might say
to me, man, you got the eleven s on. I'll be like, they're size
eight and a half. But I
still kind of appreciate the design
aspect. And I, you know, watching you hear that
story about that shoe with the. The asphalt
rope coming from the Jordan.

>> Speaker B (01:23:17):
Nines for the US Open. That's so sick.

>> Speaker A (01:23:19):
That is a badass.

>> Speaker B (01:23:21):
I knew a lot of the details already, but
that part of the road was really cool.

>> Speaker A (01:23:27):
Nice little touch and most people don't know that. So getting an
inside look with gentry, that was awesome.
And, you know, for us, we were able to
do this and bring him into
our region here in southwestern Pennsylvania at
Nemacollen Resort. For you people out there
listening, maybe from California, Florida, Georgia,
wherever you may be right now, make sure you check

(01:23:49):
out nemacolan.com. come on up
here in the fall, come on up here in the late summer, winter, whatever
you want. There is something to do for everyone.
Everyone is welcome and you will
not be disappointed. So nemecolin.com,
hopefully you can come up for the snow falls here in
a couple of months.

>> Speaker B (01:24:08):
But I get around the golf in here. I tell you what, the courses
look beautiful for you guys. So I'm glad.

>> Speaker A (01:24:13):
Courses are great courses, placements.
But you did good, man. You know,
people were, you know, yucking it up a little bit. Like, what the
hell pep thinking? I said, well, he's not, but that's. That's the
whole point. so it was good. It was good.
And I was watching a little bit of the three m open on. On
this weekend, and it was so freaking boring. I'll be honest with you. I love
seeing John Vegas win it now back. he looked.

(01:24:36):
Yeah, he looked good on Saturday, but I did switch over
to watch a little bit of live golf tournament. Now I look dead. I don't know
if that's the case, but I definitely was more in
tune to the live tournament this past weekend than I was the three m
open, purely because of the players.
But it was good to see John Rahm get it done.
And can I? Yeah, you can.

>> Speaker B (01:24:56):
Does John Rom seem like a little bit of a dick?
It's always. There's always something with him yelling at the
crowd every event the last three weeks. Yell at the crowd. Yell at
the drone, yelling at this dude. In
reality, who cares about where your golf shot went? You got 200,
$300 million.

>> Speaker C (01:25:11):
It doesn't matter.

>> Speaker A (01:25:13):
Right, but that's true. Like, yeah,
I mean, he might still want to win, but. But you could. Don't
block. Yeah, block out it. Some
knucklehead yelling, he don't care.

>> Speaker C (01:25:23):
Don't matter.

>> Speaker A (01:25:25):
But anyways, guys, we hope you enjoyed this week's
episode on chasing birdies. And like I said, head on over to our YouTube
channel. Shout out p Shep for doing the
audio, the videos, blah, blah, blah, blah. Always a good
time with p chef media, and you got to spend some good time with
him.

>> Speaker B (01:25:40):
Yeah. Other than him dropping the suitcase on my busted foot, it was
great. It was a good time. So, you're gonna see some
videos, some insight, some, you know, we're gonna. And we
follow some guys, watch them, play the whole. Whole
videos, in the cart. So there's gonna be a lot of content coming
through. our man p. Shep, we just gotta get him back from iceland
for this, to get us this. So, But, yeah. Thank you to

(01:26:01):
everyone. Thank you again to gentry for
hauling all the way across the country for,
the event and the podcast. And make sure you go to
code by Gentry to check out his shoes and
help my man out.

>> Speaker C (01:26:14):
Yeah.

>> Speaker A (01:26:14):
Yeah. And you guys out there, thanks again for tuning in here on chase and
birdies. Thank you to evo allie, Emily at simpler media for
putting this thing together, and Jacqueline
de Paterio, Rachel London, for all your social media help. You girls
kicking ass here. We hope you all have a great first
weekend of August, and we'll catch
y'all in two.

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