July 17, 2025 • 42 mins
Here we are—the last major championship of the year, “The Open” championship as we know it. Today on Chasin’ Birdies, it’s the open mic drop as we get into golf talk, the final major of the year, and hear from a legend in Rocco Mediate as he drops by the show to share a few of his thoughts.
We banter for the first few minutes in typical fashion. We turn our focus over to Royal Portrush (which we both played in 2022) and discuss our betting picks. Can McIlroy get it done in Northern Ireland? Is it going to be another US Open where the underdog prevails? We dive into all this and more.
When Rocco joins, we get into the talk between the players and the media. He tells us his thoughts often comparing what Mr. Palmer would do. We circle back to the AWFUL ruling Sam Burns got at the US Open, and who he thinks can take it down in Northern Ireland.
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>> Jonathan (00:08):
You guys, that just hit play, you're tuning into a fresh
episode here of chasing Birdies. And, uh, my
throat's a little froggy this morning. My chest a little
congested this morning. I do have a Zimbabwe
in my mouth right now, and coughs might be
had here, folks. So I apologize on that one,
but it's good to be back, Pep. It's good to be
back. And how are you doing today, my friend?
>> RB (00:30):
I'm doing fantastic. I, I, I. I feel like I might
have gotten this throat thing from you. I mean, you were
hacking and coughing on me the other day at Namakol and Shepherd's
Rock. Um, my throat's a little
sore. Got a little mucus. Know it's
disgusting, but I'm drinking some hot coffee, and it's. It's kind
of helping out a little bit. Um, I know
we're about 10 days away from the chasing birdies,
(00:52):
too, man. We had to, uh, drop out. So we're at
50. And the events brought to you by Red Vanly.
So make, uh, sure you go check them out@redvanly.com,
get some summer swag. The fall, I'm sure, is gonna be coming
out, which let's not think of ahead to the fall, even. The fall is
my favorite season. The fall is my favorite.
>> Jonathan (01:10):
Um, indeed.
>> RB (01:11):
Also, I want to send a congrats to Joe
Pavelski for winning the Tahoe
celebrity event. He's a Red Vanly athlete like ourselves.
If he would consider us athletes.
>> Jonathan (01:22):
Shout out.
>> RB (01:23):
Um, which we aren't, but congratulations to
him. I know a text was just sent to him
to come to the two, Man. A little late entry could be possible.
So could be had.
>> Jonathan (01:34):
Dude, that Tahoe event looks so awesome, though. The
fact. Yeah, but the cop thing,
dude, do.
>> RB (01:40):
You see Aaron Rodgers with all the fans? I can't.
>> Jonathan (01:42):
I did.
>> RB (01:43):
I can't. I don't know. I, I just don't.
>> Jonathan (01:45):
I, I kind of liked it, though, because I'm like, this is our guy
now, boys. This is what we are riding on this year,
collectively speaking as a fan, We.
>> RB (01:54):
You play, bud.
>> Jonathan (01:56):
No, we. As the fans. The fans.
But, yeah, dude, he, he, you know, he was pretty,
uh, adamant about not signing that autograph for that
kid.
>> RB (02:05):
I have a great we story.
>> Speaker C (02:07):
Um.
>> RB (02:09):
Years ago, the, uh, real deal James Neil came to
McKeesport, Pennsylvania. Uh, meanwhile, he pulls up
and is, you know, $300,000
Ferrari McKeesport. I'm like, but, like, you're not gonna have tires. All
right, so, like, so anyways, we go to
the Bar, late night. We're at the bar
and some kid comes over and, and says,
(02:29):
hey, anybody ever tell you look like James Neil?
He said, yeah, I get that a lot. He said, you know, we should
trade him. James said, we? He said, you play
on the team, bud.
>> Speaker C (02:39):
And.
>> RB (02:40):
And so the kid said, no, I'm just a big fan. And like, I just don't
think that he fits in really well. And blah, blah, blah, blah.
So like 30 minutes later, the kid comes back as. I'm, um, such an
idiot, man. He said, you are James Neal?
And he said, yeah. He said, why don't you beat
it? He said, can I get a picture? He said, no, you
just had me traded 40 minutes ago.
>> Jonathan (03:01):
That is funny, dude. The, what's, um,
that. That these rappers make, is
it like scissor or something like that? Like
codeine and, and Robitussin and
you want to. I was. Well, dude, I was, I was
like, my lungs were just burning and
I was coughing like crazy a couple nights ago, you know, and,
(03:21):
uh, I'm like, I need something to soothe,
you know, And I know honey works pretty well, but. So I went into the
little medical drawer here at the house and was looking for
like, kids cough syrup. So just something basic.
And there's a bottle Robitussin,
pm, dm, whatever the hell that
means. And it was for adults. And it
(03:41):
said, take 20 milliliters. So I'm like, well, golly,
I'm gonna just go ahead and fix me a nice little cup of
Robitussin and see how this thing works.
Dude, I. I took that Robitussin
and I am telling you, within 12 minutes of
me taking it, laying back in bed, not only did I not cough,
but I was knocked the hell out. I mean,
(04:02):
I was knocked out, dude, solid sleep.
Didn't wake up until like 8:30 the next
morning, which is late.
And I thought to myself, man, these guys getting rocked on
Robitussin and whatever they mix it with,
I mean, damn, there's a reason why that shit's a
problem.
>> RB (04:21):
Yeah, I just go to Tequila.
>> Jonathan (04:23):
So, um, now they're talking about all these kids in
college getting, you know, trying to buy Adderall
and stuff that you like to do. Um, but they're getting it
illegally and it's mixed with meth.
So this is gonna pose a problem for the
American youth. As if we
already don't have enough problems.
>> RB (04:42):
I mean, that's happened. We can talk about this all day.
Like, that's neither here nor there.
Just gotta be careful coming up this
Thursday, when this episode drops, the
British Open is being played at
Royal Court Rush in Ireland.
>> Jonathan (05:00):
Northern Ireland, mate. No, Northern Ireland.
>> RB (05:03):
Northern Ireland.
>> Jonathan (05:04):
It's its own country.
>> RB (05:05):
Northern Ireland. And we had the
opportunity to go over there. What was it, about four years ago?
>> Jonathan (05:11):
I think 22. So three summers ago.
>> RB (05:14):
Okay, so three summers ago, we got the chance to play
Royal Port Rush. Um,
and, man, I would say top two
on the trip for me. Yeah, it's
incredible. The layout's amazing. It is
tough. It's right on the water.
Um, you kind of. The first couple holes, you kind of go out
(05:34):
your mosey and away from the clubhouse. I think you,
uh, had mentioned before we got on, uh, Rory McElroy
made an eight on number one, which is a par four.
>> Jonathan (05:43):
Yeah.
>> RB (05:44):
Difficult green. Huge green.
>> Jonathan (05:46):
Um, you know, that hole doesn't look like it
could be that demoralizing. You know what I mean?
Like, it's. It's a pretty fair straight, a little hill, par
four, but it's a little tight on both
sides, so. The hat I'm wearing is from
Royal Port Rush. I bought this there. It's. This
is the first time I'm wearing this hat. I just took the tags off today,
(06:06):
boys, just for this episode.
>> RB (06:07):
I mean, they were selling merchandise for 20, 25,
three years ago, so.
>> Jonathan (06:11):
Looks good.
>> RB (06:12):
I mean, you held on to it.
>> Jonathan (06:14):
Yep.
>> RB (06:15):
To this point, um, I don't remember what I
shot, so I can't say anything about that.
Um, I just remember playing, uh, 1,
2, 3, 4, which is a short par four,
little dogleg right, going back towards the ocean.
And I remember standing on that green, looking out to the ocean, thinking,
this is. Like, this isn't real. Right.
(06:35):
And all the lads are down there on the. On
the beach, running around with the dogs and the ladies
chasing the dogs. Um, and I said, this is.
I said, this is. Looks like a movie. It
does. Well, funny enough, Game
of Thrones is filmed on that
beach with that big wall that was kind of hooking around
(06:56):
to the or. Yeah.
Um, so that was kind of cool, man.
>> Jonathan (07:02):
Yeah.
>> RB (07:02):
I'm not a Game of Thrones person, but if somebody listening is, we got to
seize one of the sets.
>> Jonathan (07:07):
Yeah. The course, it's kind of hard for me to
recall specifically the whole. I mean, I.
You know, if I watched a flyover, I could remember this,
that, and the other. But what I do recall is that when you got into the
meat of that course, like, maybe 7
through 12, 6 through 15, something
to that effect, it became
(07:28):
very demanding. I mean, the first
couple holes you kind of just, you're getting into it, you know, you
gotta do it decently short, part three. You got that
par four down towards the water, whatnot. But
the meat of that course is in. In the middle of
it, and it can unleash havoc.
And I think these guys, look, this is the final major of the
(07:48):
year, which. I can't believe it. I've said it before.
You know, we're in the middle of July and now the golf
season is not over. But
there's nothing really more than the Ryder cup to look forward to. I mean,
FedEx cup, you know, is that really fun? I don't know. But,
um, these guys are going to be prepared.
Uh, you know, a lot of them just played in the Scottish Open, which was
(08:09):
fun to watch. We could talk a little bit about that.
Uh, and so I'm excited to see
how. How the guys like Scheffler, how The
guys like McElroy, specifically McElroy being,
well, from Ireland. I mean, how's he going to handle
this?
>> RB (08:24):
I mean, the amount of pressure he has to win
this one, because who's to say that he's ever going to play another
one? It's not like the British Open comes to Ireland
every year. So it's kind of. Is
this the last go at it? I mean,
listening. This guy talks depressing anymore.
So, um, it's important for him, I think, that he
(08:44):
could play well. He. Ha. It's crazy to say this, but
he has to have a good first round for confidence.
I would love Shane Lowry to win because
I just like the guy. Dude. I love the guy. He
parties after he wins,
celebrates. That's what he said in his press conference. He said, I feel like, you
know, I lose way more than I win on the Tour. And,
(09:04):
yeah, I celebrated a lot, and rightfully
so. But you got a couple, you got a couple
Irishmen playing in this, and it'll be
exciting to see how they finish. I mean, you got Scotty
Scheffler leading the odds.
I think he was plus 5, plus 300. I think
he's plus 450 currently.
>> Jonathan (09:23):
Plus 4 50. As of now, he's plus 450.
Macro, um, is not too far behind him at plus 700.
Um, dude. But like. And we'll get
into that bet talk here in a few moments.
And by the way, people, we do have a special honorary
guest joining us here for a few minutes to just jump
on the show with us, talk a little bit of golf
(09:44):
recap, uh, maybe a little bit on the US Open. Looking forward to. To
the British Open, but that guy is
the legend Rocco Media. So he's
joining us here on Chasing birdies in about
12 minutes or so, so we will welcome him with
open arms. But I got to tell you, dude, the one guy that
just. And I might have to have a talk with
(10:04):
Joey, I mean, but Oberg,
he gets in the mix, dude. He.
The last couple tournaments that I've been on him,
you know, the Scottish Open and I think the
Canadian Open, he's been in the mix through, like,
two and a half, three rounds, like, right there. Then he
just bombs, like, this past weekend, he
(10:25):
went. He went like bogey, bogey, triple bogey, or bogey,
bogey, double bogey. He went 4 over.
Um, he was 10 under, and
then he went 4 over over three holes and was
600. Like, he's completely out of it. But
that. That guy can always be a threat in a golf
tournament. But I guess the bigger question is, do you
think it's going to be one of the big dogs that gonna get it done, or do
(10:47):
you think, uh. Uh, it's not.
>> RB (10:51):
I have a big dog picked, um, but I have
three picks, and two of the three or not, I would consider
big dogs currently. I don't think so, dude.
I don't think it's going to be a, uh, considered, you know,
top five player on the PGA Tour. I
don't think so. I don't think Rory
can get it done with the headspace he is in right
(11:11):
now. I don't know what headspace he's in, but I'm
saying, you know, the U.S. open,
uh, his little chippiness that he has,
um, is he miserable in life? You know, he was
complaining about the greens over in the Scottish Open, and these greens
are shit. Well, but, I mean, let's not forget
you came from Ireland, right? Like, these. These are normal to you,
(11:31):
actually. Scotland, Ireland, like,
yeah. I mean, they weren't
for the guy that won. And that's the thing. You can't
worry about that kind of stuff. Everybody's got a putt on them, bud.
Everybody.
>> Jonathan (11:43):
Yeah.
>> RB (11:44):
So true.
>> Jonathan (11:45):
Well, so let me hear what you got. I mean, if you want to
go right into that little talk.
>> RB (11:50):
So, um, my. I have three picks.
I'll, uh, start from my long shot and go
and go down at plus 10,000.
Uh, Jason Day.
>> Jonathan (12:01):
That's solid.
>> RB (12:02):
Um, my next pick at plus
5,500. Justin Rose.
M. And then, uh, my number one
pick is. I have him at plus 500.
So Scotty Scheffler well, so that's a big dog, dude.
>> Speaker C (12:18):
Yeah.
>> RB (12:18):
Well, yeah, you got.
>> Jonathan (12:19):
That's your number one pick. But, I mean, he's told me you don't.
Okay.
>> RB (12:23):
I don't think a big dog's gonna win, but I'm still gonna
take him.
>> Jonathan (12:27):
That's your number one pick dog. I
love contradicting statements, too. It's all good.
>> RB (12:33):
And another guy I like,
I'm kind of going back and forth is Adam Scott
because he plays in the wind, good iron player.
So let's hear yours.
>> Jonathan (12:45):
I don't have at this moment in time. I honestly, I didn't
do any picks. Um, but if I were
to pick a couple folks right now, who I would take for
sure. Uh, number one,
Tommy Fleetwood. I think he's about
plus 2600. The reason being is because
I learned a couple weeks ago he's never won.
And guess what? The guy grew up over in this type of
(13:08):
playing golf. He's been playing good golf. Now, can he handle his
nerves? I don't know. But he can be in the mix,
so I think Fleetwood is probably a good play. And
then I look at someone on the back end, like,
pretty far down the line, you know, like potentially
another Sam Burns type player or
Cam Smith making a turn to try to potentially
(13:30):
get. Get a dub on it. Um,
Cam Young, even. So, someone in
that type of mix. And then if I were to
pick somebody who I would label like a big dog or
someone that can be really, really kind of right there
with it, um, I'm probably
going to go with John Rahm, and I think
(13:50):
his games, he's been playing great all year,
and there's good value on him. John Rom plus
1200 right now. And, uh,
you know, but anybody could win.
Anybody.
>> RB (14:02):
It's the British Open.
>> Jonathan (14:04):
It's the British Open. You got. I don't
know. Have you taken a look at the forecast?
>> RB (14:08):
I have not looked into the weather, but, um,
that can play a huge deciding factor in all of this. It
could be beautiful. When we were over there, it was beautiful.
I was actually. It was actually like this week.
Yeah, I think we were there, like, July 22nd to the
28th. So a week later.
Um, but it could be beautiful. And if
(14:29):
it's beautiful and the wind's not terrible,
scores might start going low. But if it gets gusty and
rainy and all the elements, which I enjoy
watching at the British Open, I feel like that's the
British Open. Right. Who knows? What.
What happens? I. I do say, uh, this is my favorite major
to watch. Because, but you get up at three in the morning
(14:49):
and we got, we got golf.
>> Jonathan (14:51):
Yeah. And that can buy that. You know, I'm
cool with the fact that we wake up early on the weekend
and golf's on, you know, by 10 o' clock, the leaders are going
teeing off. And that's cool to me because then it
kind of frees up the rest of your day. You don't got to feel like you're, uh,
couch bum eating combos and chilling.
So I do like that aspect that, that
(15:11):
the, this golf tournament provides golf at
an earlier time slot. And look,
I'm certainly upset that this is our last major, but, man, I
am stoked. Especially like
watching the US Open. Okay,
Watching the US Open. We know Oakmont. We've played
Oakmont a bunch. We understand it.
(15:32):
Got to see it in real time with these guys playing it and
saw what it brought. Now the British,
we got to play Royal Port Rush. Now. I can't tell you all the holes
off the top of my head now at this point, but, uh,
I sure as hell will remember them when I see them, and I'll
know. So it's like, okay, it's going to take me back a
little bit to hanging out with you guys, you know, how about eat?
>> RB (15:52):
I for sure remember the first five holes. I
just, I think that that day when we played was a little
windy, so. So the old head was a little down, boys.
>> Jonathan (16:01):
Yeah. Ian Patrick, the legend that he
is on the bus ride in Northern Ireland, he got sick. We
stopped at the gas station. He wanted milk. And it's like
90 degrees in Ireland, and we're on this sprinter van
with like barely any ac or on these
back roads in Northern Ireland. And
Ian just starts projectile vomiting everywhere
(16:21):
in this bus. And then it's like
everyone is all, ugh, the
smell. Gross. So our
driver. There's a reason why I'm telling this story.
Our driver, Sean, pulls off and lets
Ian do what he has to do. And I vividly remember Ian
getting that bag, putting it in the garbage can on the street.
(16:41):
Yes.
>> RB (16:42):
No, I remember him, um, vomiting in the
bag and the bag breaking and it goes.
Yes, in the bus.
>> Jonathan (16:50):
Yeah. Well, I remember the garbage
can where it was full, seeping out on the outside
of the garbage can.
>> RB (16:57):
And he sharted. Let's not. He
literally sharted.
>> Jonathan (17:01):
And he was not like. I mean, he
was kind of in an urgent state, but at the
same time, he was pretty much doing
on Ian time. Like, I'll get to it when I get to it. Like,
guys, Shut the hell up. I'm sick. Okay? You're going
to deal with this. Let me get back to me.
So we kind of just moseyed around this little town for a couple of minutes while
(17:23):
Ian dealt with his puke. And, you know, it's hot.
Everyone's like, what the hell's going on? But Ian texted Sean
this weekend and told him he
wants to go back to Northern Ireland next year. Can you set up a
trip? And he ended the conversation with him, and,
uh, he said, what you think,
question mark. I could
not stop laughing. He said, what you think,
(17:45):
Leg Sean? Meanwhile, Sean's probably like, who the fuck's this guy?
Oh, Ian, uh. Yeah. How you doing, man? How
you doing?
>> RB (17:52):
That pooped himself and puked all over my bus.
>> Jonathan (17:54):
Yeah, I got you. I got you.
Good, uh, times, man. That was good.
That was good.
>> RB (18:02):
Well, our buddy, uh, Rocco will be joining
here in a few minutes,
and I'm looking forward to getting his thoughts on a few things.
Um, you know, Oakmont,
um. Was the Sam Burns rolling
correct from a Tour player's
perspective? Um, talk a little bit about his
experiences at the British Open and a little bit about
(18:24):
the media. Um, Colin Morikawa specifically.
Um, Rory McElroy specifically.
See, get his thoughts on that, because I'll tell you this much. Um,
I don't think that he approves of how they're handling
it. And,
um, it'll be interesting to get his
take.
>> Jonathan (18:42):
That ruling was.
You know, that. That was. That was tough watching him
in 15 with that water. But
I don't know that that was one for the,
uh.
You got your second Zen in right now, too. Alps.
Oh, the Alps. The Alps.
>> RB (19:02):
I'm on sixes now, but I have my only gone up.
>> Jonathan (19:06):
My only complaint with the Alps is the fact that you don't have a little
slot underneath to kind of dump them. When you're done, you got
to put them back in or you got to find a garbage can.
I'm so used to that Zins. Whenever I just want to take it out, I
just turn the can over, take the small ring
out and bump it in.
>> RB (19:22):
I never found that, by the way. Like, I was looking.
And you know who told us that was Story
Snyder.
>> Jonathan (19:29):
Story Snyder told us that.
>> RB (19:31):
Story Snyder is the one who introduced you, and
your mind was absolutely blown.
>> Jonathan (19:37):
Well, it happened to me on the way back from Colorado. I'm on
the airplane, and this kid sitting two seats next to me, I
turn the can over and I put it in, and I'm, um. I go
back to minding my own business. And he hits me. He says, what
the hell did you just do with that? I said, what do you mean? He said, the
zincain. You turned it over? And I said,
yeah, but I said, I put the dead soldiers here in this
(19:57):
ring. And he. His mind was blown.
And then I put my headphones back in and mind my own business, so.
And take care, bud.
M. I didn't even
charge him.
>> RB (20:08):
Meanwhile, I got yelled at for having his in can
out in the open on the airplane. And you're over here
educating some kid on it. I mean, like,
guy came over to me and said, hey, um, you're not allowed
to have that on the airplane. I don't care. But the
rest of the staff will yell at you for that.
Like, bud, I'm not doing anything.
>> Jonathan (20:30):
Yeah, it's not, um.
>> RB (20:31):
It's not like I'm spitting in a bottle,
which we did on the way. On the way to St. Lucia.
I'm like, what's that smell? Guy in the same row as me across
the aisle had an old school chewing.
Spitting in a bottle, and it was
disgusting. I wanted to puke. The smell,
um, of it.
>> Jonathan (20:49):
Well, it's really not that bad, you know?
It's really not that bad. The TSA agents are the
worst, though. Well, I mean, I appreciate their service, but, man,
these guys and girls are just in bad moods all the
time. Do I got to take your shoes off? No, you don't take your shoes
off. Does it look like you need to take your shoe off? Well, I don't know.
Everywhere else I do. No, put everything in.
(21:10):
All right. Let me get my laptop out. Don't take your laptop out.
This thing's high tech. You don't need to do it. Okay.
Sorry. Should I take my hat off? No, I'm
like, damn, that was me.
>> Speaker C (21:22):
You can't do.
>> RB (21:22):
There he is. He is the boy. Rocco.
>> Speaker C (21:26):
You told me. 8:15. What time is it?
>> RB (21:28):
Well, 8:15, boys.
>> Jonathan (21:30):
Yeah, yeah.
>> Speaker C (21:31):
Ah.
>> RB (21:32):
I mean, where are we at today? Are we at, uh, Laurel or.
>> Speaker C (21:34):
I'm in. I'm in Hannah's town right now.
>> RB (21:36):
I love it. Hannah's Town Country Club. Rocco
mediate.
>> Speaker C (21:40):
We did a couple things here. It's pretty nice, though.
What we. What's going on here?
Really cool, Rock.
>> RB (21:46):
We don't want to take too much of your time. We appreciate calling in. There's a couple things
we've got to talk about with you. Um, Fire
away. The. The state of the PGA Tour and
the media. Yeah. M. Specifically, Colin
Morikawa, Rory McElroy.
Um, something's going on with Rory McElroy,
clearly. Uh, because he went from being the voice of the
PGA Tour to not wanting to talk to anybody.
>> Speaker C (22:09):
Yeah, he. Yeah, he did. Um, they
kind of buried him with a. When he was standing
up for the PGA Tour and then found out there's a
deal behind it. Not behind his back, but behind everybody's back
with, um, the live thing. You see how that worked out? That worked
out nice. Um,
and yeah, he just said, enough is enough. And I don't
(22:30):
blame him for that, but
nobody's bigger than the game. Yeah, we have to
talk. You have to talk. That's people one.
That's what you have to talk about.
Um, the, uh, the, the I don't owe
anybody anything crap is complete.
It's. It's nauseating. Said it a million times. I don't care what
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people think about what I say ever. I could care
less. Um, they'll come back and say, well, a
couple guys said, well, you're just mad that you didn't have a,
a good career. I'm like, call it what you want. I'm just
telling you the truth.
>> RB (23:04):
Right.
>> Speaker C (23:04):
You speak to people when you're asked questions. You don't
go to Palmer's course and the Palmer's tournament and say,
uh, I don't know anybody, anything. He would have strung him up. Oh,
you put him up against a locker. Okay, so stop
it. You can't win the argument. There's nothing to win.
It's wrong. I don't care what they say. It's even bigger
now because of all this media stuff. So just
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say something.
>> RB (23:26):
And I said to ryan, I said, Mr. Palmer would have absolutely
snapped based on our conversation. You and I had a.
Privately. But this. It's
easy to talk when you play well, right? You want to talk to. Everybody
wants to talk.
>> Speaker C (23:38):
Anybody can do it.
>> RB (23:40):
Piece of cake. But when you're a face of the game, I. E.
Colin Morikawa, Rory McElroy just.
>> Speaker C (23:45):
I would definitely not calm. He's definitely not a face of the game.
That's not even close to the face of the game. But he's a very
well known, very great player. Love the way he
plays the game, but just stop it.
>> Jonathan (23:57):
Yeah.
>> Speaker C (23:57):
Because it doesn't. It looks bad. It looks bad. So,
like I said, I don't care what people say about what
I say about this. I'm looking out as a fan
going, really? You're not going to tell me what, how you're feeling right
now? This is what you're supposed to do you don't want to do
it. But the key is, like you just said,
and that's what Mr. Palmer said, it's easy to talk. When you shoot
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65, can you do it when you shoot 75, can you do it
when you get beat? That's the. That's the test. Sometimes, of course, you
don't want to do it. You're mad, you're sad, you're upset, you're
whatever. But that's when you got to go. All right,
I'm just going to tell them how I feel. Even if I say something stupid,
I'm talking.
>> Jonathan (24:34):
Yeah, yeah.
>> Speaker C (24:34):
You never say, I don't owe anybody
anything. Well, actually, you do.
>> Jonathan (24:40):
Yeah. Because.
>> RB (24:41):
Yeah.
>> Speaker C (24:43):
It's like beating a dead horse. So they don't care.
You saw this reaction. Oh, I.
I don't, uh. I'm not. You know, it was like, what's wrong with
these guys?
>> RB (24:53):
Yeah. It's everybody else's.
>> Speaker C (24:54):
Why would they say that? Yeah, of course it is. Of course it is. It's
called entitlement, and that's what it's called. And it's
nauseating. Hey, we're all entitled out there. Trust me.
Uh, you know, it's changed, but we're playing a game for a
living, and you can make tons and tons of money. That's a
pretty good deal. So you might want to,
you know, show some respect for
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it. I don't know. Call me crazy.
>> RB (25:16):
Yeah.
>> Jonathan (25:17):
Yeah. No, I think you get all these.
>> Speaker C (25:18):
Guys that go on the other side, like, oh, you're just
this, um. Um. This has nothing to do with me.
Zero. You can call my stuff whatever you want to
call it. I don't care. I do not care. But.
And why are you talking about it? They'll give me that one, too. And
I'm like, well, because I was asked a question, so I answered
it. Try it sometime. Yeah,
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So I don't care what the answer. I don't care what they think of
the answer. But you're gonna ask me a question. I'm going
to tell you what I think. Is it always right? Of course not.
>> RB (25:48):
You're right. Right.
>> Speaker C (25:49):
It's right this time.
>> RB (25:51):
I'll tell you. I'll tell you this much. Rock. We. We were watching the
US Open, uh, at Oakmont Sunday, and there's a little rain. Del
turned it. You know, turned it on, and here comes a replay of
you at Torrey Pines. And I even talked to you.
>> Speaker C (26:03):
I lost again. Huh? Uh.
>> RB (26:07):
And I said, you look like you're having a time of your Life
out, uh, there. And you said I was.
>> Speaker C (26:13):
Yeah, 100%. Yeah. It just doesn't.
I don't know. Golf is still. I love watching these kids
play. I love the PGA Tour. I do. I have
nothing. Uh, I'm not that guy. Oh, they're playing for this. I think it's
great that Scheffler made $70 million last year.
Okay.
>> Jonathan (26:28):
Yeah, he earned it.
>> Speaker C (26:29):
You know, he played 20 sometimes won nine
times. He's. He was paid very well.
I love Major league baseball, but a major league pitcher makes
80, 90, 100 million a year, and he works once a week.
Stop it. Okay. It's okay that the guys make the
PGA Tour. Guys make money. It's okay that, well, uh,
they're playing for too much. What. What does that mean?
Yeah, what does that mean? So I. I think it's great the way
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that's gone, but you have to give it back.
You. You have to. Even if you don't, you have to learn to act.
Okay? Some guys can't talk to the media. Some guys
are. Whatever. Give. Go find somebody
that can teach you to speak. That's the key.
Because some guys have no clue.
And, um, you know, with Rory going where he went,
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something's going on. And you. You can't say he's a. He's an
a. You can't say. You can't call him names. It's like something's
happening, but surprising because he's a wonderful kid,
and so is Colin. They're wonderful kids, but
God dang it, give. Give me the fan
what I want. Because I'm the one watching you guys, the
fan wise. You know what I'm saying? Tell me how you feel.
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That Henley beat you by pitching in on 16 at
Bay Hill. And so it's not like you stunk. He just.
You got beat. So what? It's gonna happen again? Trust me.
>> RB (27:42):
Yeah.
>> Jonathan (27:42):
Yeah. You know, it could happen this week.
>> RB (27:45):
What do you got there? Eight shots of. Eight shots there.
Espresso.
>> Speaker C (27:48):
Yeah, it's down. It's. Yeah, down there. Brian. Julian. Brian's
right here. We're just kind of hanging around and, um, looking,
uh, at Hannah town. But. Yeah, it's just it. But it
doesn't. We could talk about this for a hundred years. It's
not going to change, but I hope it does. Let me put it that
way, because you can't be that way. You
can't.
>> Jonathan (28:06):
I always appreciate your candidness, Rock. I mean, I
think, like I said, that's the way to be. I
want to know your Opinion. Uh, rolling back
because we. Pep and I were talking about this a little bit, but back
to Oakmont, and then we'll look ahead briefly here at this week's
major.
But back to Oakmont. Obviously, the course played well for the
guys. A little wet.
>> Speaker C (28:25):
Oh, yeah.
>> Jonathan (28:25):
What. What's your thought on that ruling on 15
with Sam Burns not getting relief?
>> Speaker C (28:31):
That was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen,
actually. Um, you know, whether it's. If
it's in the rule. If it is, obviously it's the rule. That's the
stupidest thing ever. So what you're telling me is my ball can
be submerged in water in the middle of the fairway,
but my feet are dry, so I have to
play really, you know, what is. What. What is
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hitting the fairway? It's kind of. It's supposed to be what you're supposed to
try to do, and all of a sudden, he's buried up to his.
You know. It was a joke. Now, was it.
Did it cost in the open? It very well could have.
We don't know what happened. If he hits it on the green and two putts or makes
birdie or. Or makes bogey, for that matter, we don't
know what happens. We'll never know. But
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everybody, even on our, uh. Even on my, uh, the old guys
tour, our tour, they're like, what the hell kind of ruling.
I mean, I know it was, but if that's the rule book, that's the rule book. It
just needs to be changed, right?
>> Jonathan (29:22):
Yeah.
>> Speaker C (29:22):
Because it did cost them. It cost him big time. We don't know.
What if he gets it up there to a foot? We don't know.
>> RB (29:28):
The whole thing changes, probably. Yeah.
>> Speaker C (29:29):
Uh, yeah, the whole thing changes. But the guy. I mean,
JJ deserved. I mean. Oh, my God, Was that ridiculous?
>> RB (29:34):
How about balls of steel there, huh? Oh, my God.
>> Speaker C (29:37):
Struck him. He just out hit him coming home. And that's what it takes
in those things, you know? He really did, um. It
was cool to watch. You know, you saw glimpses of him at the
players. It was. I wasn't surprised.
>> RB (29:48):
And you were paired with Mr. Palmer in his last
major.
>> Speaker C (29:52):
Yeah.
>> RB (29:52):
Your last U.S. open.
>> Speaker C (29:54):
Yeah.
>> RB (29:54):
That's. That's incredible.
>> Speaker C (29:56):
Oh, it was insane. Yeah, it was. It was. I've never seen
anything like it. Um, and then you never will. Um, it was.
The whole world stopped when he finished on 18.
>> RB (30:05):
Two more things to talk about. Uh, one, the
Jordan front. What do you. What's your thoughts on the revs?
You like them? I feel like, that's right up your alley.
>> Speaker C (30:14):
I'm not on those at all.
>> RB (30:15):
Really.
>> Speaker C (30:17):
No, no, they're cool, but I,
uh. They're not me. I m. I can't wear them because I didn't get
they.
>> Jonathan (30:23):
They really bite into the ground. Good man.
>> Speaker C (30:25):
Yeah. I just like the fire. My favorites are. My favorites are the
fives. Still. I still love you.
>> RB (30:30):
Always got so much style. I love it.
>> Speaker C (30:32):
I wear them.
>> RB (30:32):
Shorts and a T shirt.
>> Speaker C (30:33):
Well, defined style. Yeah, define style. Yeah.
>> Jonathan (30:36):
Well, listen, when. When. When Brandle
Shambley had you on and they were showing highlights, that's why I
texted you guys. I said, they need to talk about your
style now, man.
>> Speaker C (30:45):
You.
>> Jonathan (30:46):
You've evolved. You like a new man.
>> Speaker C (30:48):
It's just a little. I don't know what you call it, but a lot of people
hate it. And once again, I don't care.
>> Jonathan (30:53):
I don't. I love it.
>> Speaker C (30:55):
Yeah, if they don't like it, they could go watch someone else. It's fine with
me. I don't. You know, I'm just trying to hang out and
be comfortable. I did all the other stuff for all those other
years, but, um, having our tours. We have a great
time there.
>> Jonathan (31:08):
You guys are the best.
>> Speaker C (31:09):
We'll continue to do that. It's. It's cool. But
I don't know. I think Rory's gonna have
something to say about this open. I'm just telling you.
>> Jonathan (31:18):
Yeah, that's what I want to segue in here, because I know, you know,
we want to be cognizant of the time hearing for you, but, uh,
Royal Port Rush Pep and I played it three years ago.
I'm sure you've played it a handful of times.
>> Speaker C (31:28):
Seen it. It looks ridiculously cool. Yeah, it looks
really, really cool. I played county down and some other stuff, but
I've never played up there.
>> Jonathan (31:36):
It's going to be a challenge, and that's what we were discussing. Who do we
think could be. Is it going to be a big dog, or are we going to have
someone from the back who no one's.
>> Speaker C (31:43):
Well, I. I don't know what the weather's going to be,
but I love Rory just because it's Rory. And I love
Scotty. I m like Scotty every week. That's my Pick
him pretty much every week, because how do you not pick him?
If he putts good, he beats you. Um, but
Rahm is somebody to be reckoned with, too. You watch.
You watch Ron, because, you know, I know he played good last
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week at Valderrama. Um, but
the Way he drives it, you know, it's
over there. It's. He's. That he can hit that thing four feet off
the ground a mile and it might take that. You
know, Lowry is a great driver. Obviously, he won last time.
Um, so if you look at those guys. But I think
Rory's got to have. He's kind of. He finished the grand
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slam. Um, which was. It
was so cool. It was so cool to see him actually do that because
he, you know, you can say that he deserved it.
Okay. It was good that. So it's. I'm glad it's over with
and maybe some let down after that and whatever,
you know? Um, but I think he's like, you know,
last time I missed the cut here, and the people were
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just. Were crazy, and I was trying to do it for them. I
think something's. I don't know. I hope so.
It'd be cool to see that, but, you know, Scotty's gonna be.
They're all going to be there, you know, if Xander's showing up again. He's feeling
better, I guess.
>> Jonathan (32:59):
Yeah.
>> RB (32:59):
No media or.
Or that's Colin. Sorry. No media for Colin.
>> Speaker C (33:03):
No media this week for Colin. That.
That's what he said.
>> RB (33:07):
No, I'm just kidding. I'm kidding.
>> Speaker C (33:09):
Oh, okay.
>> Jonathan (33:10):
Jesus. Please don't give starting rumors.
Starting rumors.
>> Speaker C (33:13):
Well, Rock, all you got to do is talk. Whether it's for five
seconds or 10 minutes, something. Please, just.
>> RB (33:19):
Yeah, I love it. I love it.
>> Speaker C (33:22):
We don't want much.
>> RB (33:23):
Well, we love having you back here in Pittsburgh. It's good that you always
come back to the old stomping grounds, check the boys out.
Uh, Hannah's Town. I'm sure you'll pop over to the old Mr.
Palmer's place a few times. Um, we
always. We always appreciate your time, Rock.
>> Speaker C (33:38):
Anytime, guys. Anytime. You know where I am.
>> Jonathan (33:40):
Well, you stay well, Rock. Keep playing good. And,
uh, I gotta appreciate playing good.
>> Speaker C (33:45):
Haven't played good for a while, but I'm coming around.
>> RB (33:47):
Let's get it going around.
>> Speaker C (33:48):
Have a good time, you guys. I'm not talking to you guys about this.
Leave me alone. I'm not speaking. Let me
know anytime you need me. Anytime you need me.
>> RB (33:56):
All right, buddy.
>> Jonathan (33:57):
Thanks, Rock. We appreciate you. Thanks.
We'll see.
>> RB (34:03):
Uh, so our boy Rocco Mediate had a few thoughts
there, and, uh, he
came back from a tour event, Senior tour event. Drove in
late and, uh, popped on. He's
out at Hannah's Town right now, checking out. I haven't been there in a
long Time.
>> Jonathan (34:18):
I haven't been to Hannah's town since junior golf
back in the day. There's some good tracks up in that way. Indiana
Country Club, Hannah's town, Tyler
Ridge used to be a nice plot spot, you know, and then obviously
Laurel Valley and Latrobe Country Club.
Uh, good stuff, man. I like Rock's take,
man. He's just pretty to the point, man. And he
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shows that way, though.
>> RB (34:40):
He's always has been.
>> Jonathan (34:42):
His show is phenomenal. Uh,
Jeff Dyer gets on it. I've listened. It's Monday, I think it's
Monday nights at 7 o' clock on SiriusXM
and he yucks it up for an hour. So, um,
and it's awesome. I think it's. I think it's pretty cool to
see that. But. But I do have to
admit Rock and I are kind of on the same field with Jon
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Rahm right now.
>> RB (35:04):
You caught him earlier in the podcast. You said John Rob,
bud. So, hey, uh, uh, maybe. Maybe
that's the one, dude.
>> Jonathan (35:10):
Could be it, buddy.
>> RB (35:11):
Which means probably not, but probably not.
Speaking of golf, you've got the state open
here in a few weeks, or actually in a week. Um, and
then you roll right into the Chasing birdies too, man. How's the
game feeling, bud?
>> Jonathan (35:24):
Game? Honest to God, it's, It's good. I mean,
the, the one spot of my game right now that's a little weak
is my driving, which is, you know, I've said it before,
uh, but it's coming,
coming around. But my iron striking is really good.
My chipping and wedging, I'm wedging it really
well right now. My feel around the greens is really
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good.
>> RB (35:45):
Good.
>> Jonathan (35:46):
And I'm rolling the rocks, so.
No, I feel good, man. I almost flew one in on number
two the other day. I was playing a little nightcap round with
BCATs at Nemacolin, which for our
listeners out there, Nemacollen is a proud sponsor
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peak die courses and great lodging, great food,
great fun. Uh, so book your stay at Nemecol
if you get a chance, but I went
up with BK earlier this week, played nine
holes. Twilight. Twilight, right?
>> RB (36:20):
Nine holers. You guys are.
>> Jonathan (36:21):
We're nine holers. We're the nine holers. And, uh,
number two. I hit this shot in number two and
it's just going right at the pin. And
dude, it didn't even hit the pin. It flew in the back of the cup
and Ricocheted off, had a nice big dent
in the hole.
>> RB (36:36):
Drink birdie?
>> Jonathan (36:37):
Uh, no, because I was 20 yards away.
Um, but I proceeded to get up and down the next
hole, made, uh, birdie on four,
made birdie on five, made birdie
on seven, made a long parse save on
eight. And then I three jacked nine for bogey, shot two
under. So I fell pretty
good. And BK played good, too. BK was back the nine
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holer. He shot even. Yeah, I mean, we love to
see it.
>> RB (37:04):
Good.
>> Jonathan (37:04):
We love to see it. And then I'm taking a couple guys this
week at, uh, from work. I'm
taking them to Pikewood here, uh, tomorrow
for a round of golf. Jared Detwiler, good friend
and, uh, Chartiers country club
expertise. Guy just played in the club, uh,
championship. Said he did not play too well, but
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we'll see how his game looks at pike with this weekend or this
week and, uh, you know, friends. And friends.
That's what we're doing. That's what we're doing.
>> RB (37:35):
I love it, dude. I love it.
>> Jonathan (37:37):
So, uh, you got another tournament coming up next week,
my friend. You got your Yakag Country Club,
AKA Moose Club member
guests, you and Neil Walker.
And then it is the
chasing birdie's two man at
Nemacorn. Dude, I would
just think of Neil. Can I just say something? I just need
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people to know this. This is totally random, but when I
said Neil and I thought of Pittsburgh, I got to tell you something,
dude. Zach Frazier
is one hell of a man,
okay? He is just one hell of a man. Our
starting center for the Pittsburgh Steelers
is a good man. Um, had
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a little chat with him about, uh, WVU
Medicine's children golf outing that you
and I are a part of in September, which we need to
get on that a little bit. But, um, so for the
auction, he donated a signed jersey and
would not let me Venmo him for the shipping. And I
said, bud, I said, when I see you, I'm gonna shake your hand with a 10
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spot in it. Did it on his own. He's in the
middle of football season.
>> RB (38:45):
I love it.
>> Jonathan (38:46):
He's just having a baby, and, you
know, and then there he is worrying about sending Bash a, uh,
jersey for the auction. But he did it, and he did
it with his heart, so he's a great man. See,
humans like that. We need more of.
>> RB (39:01):
Yeah, Walks and I. We've been back to
walks. Walks and I've been talking. We like where our games
are at right now, and, uh,
see if we can cause a Little havoc in the member guests.
>> Jonathan (39:12):
Yeah, it's going to be fun. I'll be rooting for you. If I can
get in on any action, um,
please let me know.
>> RB (39:19):
I just hope I didn't do it.
>> Jonathan (39:21):
I would like to take you. And you had a match against a high schooler. You were on the
ropes a little bit over there at the Moose Club, sending me
updates, you know, getting waxed a little bit early.
>> RB (39:29):
And I mean the kid went from giving me one shot
a hole. He's 22 years old. Joey Gatis
give me one shot a hole to needing four, was 22
shot swing. So I gave him his four. I was two down through two,
got it to um, one
up, two up, three up on the front nine
and um, on the back, man, he made a four
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for three on 17, a part of five and I made a four
and uh, we were, I was one down on
the back in all square overall,
got the 18, he stuffs it to about four feet
and I have like a little 15 yard pitch shot. Played it like a
pot basically and went in and walked off with an
eagle.
>> Jonathan (40:11):
That's awesome.
>> RB (40:12):
And uh, fired a little 65 on the boy.
>> Jonathan (40:14):
I mean you're playing some good golf, dude. So, I mean the
last, last time I played with you, you shot 68.
>> RB (40:20):
68? Yeah, my last three were 67.
68, 65.
>> Jonathan (40:26):
It's awesome, dude. I mean it helps, you know, when
you can reach to par fives with the wedge, but honest to God, that's still
good putting. Kidding.
>> RB (40:34):
Actually, part two par fives on, on that match,
which I was really upset about.
>> Jonathan (40:39):
Uh, uh, I
know that's like us when we played the other day. We're scooting through and
13's like the easiest hole.
>> RB (40:47):
You had 12 straight pars going in that hole.
>> Jonathan (40:49):
Yeah, 12 straight pars, 13 easy par five. I
make six. Oh, I kind of hit in the hazard
on my second shot, but. Yeah, but Nate, birdie on
you on the next hole. Dude. You made a nice 30 footer. And I
made a 25 footer on top of you for two. He proceeded
to shoot 68, 71 for this guy. But
all is well in the golf world, people.
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Golf season is ending and summer
is slowly winding down. School buses are going to be back
out. So make sure you
soak up the dog days of summer because they are here,
here. And there's no better way to do it than to
dive into the British Open this weekend. Royal Port Rush,
Northern Ireland, with the players all in it.
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And it's gonna be a good one. It's gonna be a good one.
So, Pepe, I got, uh,
nothing else for you.
>> RB (41:37):
I got nothing else. Uh, chasing underscore
Birdies. Follow us.
Um, I know over the next week and a half, you're gonna
see a lot of content from us, from the event. And,
uh, which, speaking of, you need to reach out to that guy for some
video stuff table.
>> Jonathan (41:53):
So, yeah, you're right.
>> RB (41:55):
But you all have a good week. Enjoy the British Open,
and please talk to the media when you get a chance.
>> Jonathan (42:02):
Talk to the press. The press wants to hear from you.
But as always, guys, we appreciate you tuning
in to this week's episode of, uh,
Chase and Birdie's got a big. Give a big shout out over to
simpler Media. Ali, Emily and Evo for putting this thing
together on the fly, getting this thing out on time
because it's two hosts were a little late. And thank
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you to Rachel London and Jacqueline de
Paterio for your social media help.
We hope you all have a blessed weekend.
Enjoy the final major of the year at Royal Port
Rush, and we will catch y' all
in two.
You guys, that just hit play, you're tuning into a fresh
episode here of chasing Birdies. And, uh, my
throat's a little froggy this morning. My chest a little
congested this morning. I do have a Zimbabwe
in my mouth right now, and coughs might be
had here, folks. So I apologize on that one,
but it's good to be back, Pep. It's good to be
back. And how are you doing today, my friend?
>> RB (00:30):
I'm doing fantastic. I, I, I. I feel like I might
have gotten this throat thing from you. I mean, you were
hacking and coughing on me the other day at Namakol and Shepherd's
Rock. Um, my throat's a little
sore. Got a little mucus. Know it's
disgusting, but I'm drinking some hot coffee, and it's. It's kind
of helping out a little bit. Um, I know
we're about 10 days away from the chasing birdies,
(00:52):
too, man. We had to, uh, drop out. So we're at
50. And the events brought to you by Red Vanly.
So make, uh, sure you go check them out@redvanly.com,
get some summer swag. The fall, I'm sure, is gonna be coming
out, which let's not think of ahead to the fall, even. The fall is
my favorite season. The fall is my favorite.
>> Jonathan (01:10):
Um, indeed.
>> RB (01:11):
Also, I want to send a congrats to Joe
Pavelski for winning the Tahoe
celebrity event. He's a Red Vanly athlete like ourselves.
If he would consider us athletes.
>> Jonathan (01:22):
Shout out.
>> RB (01:23):
Um, which we aren't, but congratulations to
him. I know a text was just sent to him
to come to the two, Man. A little late entry could be possible.
So could be had.
>> Jonathan (01:34):
Dude, that Tahoe event looks so awesome, though. The
fact. Yeah, but the cop thing,
dude, do.
>> RB (01:40):
You see Aaron Rodgers with all the fans? I can't.
>> Jonathan (01:42):
I did.
>> RB (01:43):
I can't. I don't know. I, I just don't.
>> Jonathan (01:45):
I, I kind of liked it, though, because I'm like, this is our guy
now, boys. This is what we are riding on this year,
collectively speaking as a fan, We.
>> RB (01:54):
You play, bud.
>> Jonathan (01:56):
No, we. As the fans. The fans.
But, yeah, dude, he, he, you know, he was pretty,
uh, adamant about not signing that autograph for that
kid.
>> RB (02:05):
I have a great we story.
>> Speaker C (02:07):
Um.
>> RB (02:09):
Years ago, the, uh, real deal James Neil came to
McKeesport, Pennsylvania. Uh, meanwhile, he pulls up
and is, you know, $300,000
Ferrari McKeesport. I'm like, but, like, you're not gonna have tires. All
right, so, like, so anyways, we go to
the Bar, late night. We're at the bar
and some kid comes over and, and says,
(02:29):
hey, anybody ever tell you look like James Neil?
He said, yeah, I get that a lot. He said, you know, we should
trade him. James said, we? He said, you play
on the team, bud.
>> Speaker C (02:39):
And.
>> RB (02:40):
And so the kid said, no, I'm just a big fan. And like, I just don't
think that he fits in really well. And blah, blah, blah, blah.
So like 30 minutes later, the kid comes back as. I'm, um, such an
idiot, man. He said, you are James Neal?
And he said, yeah. He said, why don't you beat
it? He said, can I get a picture? He said, no, you
just had me traded 40 minutes ago.
>> Jonathan (03:01):
That is funny, dude. The, what's, um,
that. That these rappers make, is
it like scissor or something like that? Like
codeine and, and Robitussin and
you want to. I was. Well, dude, I was, I was
like, my lungs were just burning and
I was coughing like crazy a couple nights ago, you know, and,
(03:21):
uh, I'm like, I need something to soothe,
you know, And I know honey works pretty well, but. So I went into the
little medical drawer here at the house and was looking for
like, kids cough syrup. So just something basic.
And there's a bottle Robitussin,
pm, dm, whatever the hell that
means. And it was for adults. And it
(03:41):
said, take 20 milliliters. So I'm like, well, golly,
I'm gonna just go ahead and fix me a nice little cup of
Robitussin and see how this thing works.
Dude, I. I took that Robitussin
and I am telling you, within 12 minutes of
me taking it, laying back in bed, not only did I not cough,
but I was knocked the hell out. I mean,
(04:02):
I was knocked out, dude, solid sleep.
Didn't wake up until like 8:30 the next
morning, which is late.
And I thought to myself, man, these guys getting rocked on
Robitussin and whatever they mix it with,
I mean, damn, there's a reason why that shit's a
problem.
>> RB (04:21):
Yeah, I just go to Tequila.
>> Jonathan (04:23):
So, um, now they're talking about all these kids in
college getting, you know, trying to buy Adderall
and stuff that you like to do. Um, but they're getting it
illegally and it's mixed with meth.
So this is gonna pose a problem for the
American youth. As if we
already don't have enough problems.
>> RB (04:42):
I mean, that's happened. We can talk about this all day.
Like, that's neither here nor there.
Just gotta be careful coming up this
Thursday, when this episode drops, the
British Open is being played at
Royal Court Rush in Ireland.
>> Jonathan (05:00):
Northern Ireland, mate. No, Northern Ireland.
>> RB (05:03):
Northern Ireland.
>> Jonathan (05:04):
It's its own country.
>> RB (05:05):
Northern Ireland. And we had the
opportunity to go over there. What was it, about four years ago?
>> Jonathan (05:11):
I think 22. So three summers ago.
>> RB (05:14):
Okay, so three summers ago, we got the chance to play
Royal Port Rush. Um,
and, man, I would say top two
on the trip for me. Yeah, it's
incredible. The layout's amazing. It is
tough. It's right on the water.
Um, you kind of. The first couple holes, you kind of go out
(05:34):
your mosey and away from the clubhouse. I think you,
uh, had mentioned before we got on, uh, Rory McElroy
made an eight on number one, which is a par four.
>> Jonathan (05:43):
Yeah.
>> RB (05:44):
Difficult green. Huge green.
>> Jonathan (05:46):
Um, you know, that hole doesn't look like it
could be that demoralizing. You know what I mean?
Like, it's. It's a pretty fair straight, a little hill, par
four, but it's a little tight on both
sides, so. The hat I'm wearing is from
Royal Port Rush. I bought this there. It's. This
is the first time I'm wearing this hat. I just took the tags off today,
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boys, just for this episode.
>> RB (06:07):
I mean, they were selling merchandise for 20, 25,
three years ago, so.
>> Jonathan (06:11):
Looks good.
>> RB (06:12):
I mean, you held on to it.
>> Jonathan (06:14):
Yep.
>> RB (06:15):
To this point, um, I don't remember what I
shot, so I can't say anything about that.
Um, I just remember playing, uh, 1,
2, 3, 4, which is a short par four,
little dogleg right, going back towards the ocean.
And I remember standing on that green, looking out to the ocean, thinking,
this is. Like, this isn't real. Right.
(06:35):
And all the lads are down there on the. On
the beach, running around with the dogs and the ladies
chasing the dogs. Um, and I said, this is.
I said, this is. Looks like a movie. It
does. Well, funny enough, Game
of Thrones is filmed on that
beach with that big wall that was kind of hooking around
(06:56):
to the or. Yeah.
Um, so that was kind of cool, man.
>> Jonathan (07:02):
Yeah.
>> RB (07:02):
I'm not a Game of Thrones person, but if somebody listening is, we got to
seize one of the sets.
>> Jonathan (07:07):
Yeah. The course, it's kind of hard for me to
recall specifically the whole. I mean, I.
You know, if I watched a flyover, I could remember this,
that, and the other. But what I do recall is that when you got into the
meat of that course, like, maybe 7
through 12, 6 through 15, something
to that effect, it became
(07:28):
very demanding. I mean, the first
couple holes you kind of just, you're getting into it, you know, you
gotta do it decently short, part three. You got that
par four down towards the water, whatnot. But
the meat of that course is in. In the middle of
it, and it can unleash havoc.
And I think these guys, look, this is the final major of the
(07:48):
year, which. I can't believe it. I've said it before.
You know, we're in the middle of July and now the golf
season is not over. But
there's nothing really more than the Ryder cup to look forward to. I mean,
FedEx cup, you know, is that really fun? I don't know. But,
um, these guys are going to be prepared.
Uh, you know, a lot of them just played in the Scottish Open, which was
(08:09):
fun to watch. We could talk a little bit about that.
Uh, and so I'm excited to see
how. How the guys like Scheffler, how The
guys like McElroy, specifically McElroy being,
well, from Ireland. I mean, how's he going to handle
this?
>> RB (08:24):
I mean, the amount of pressure he has to win
this one, because who's to say that he's ever going to play another
one? It's not like the British Open comes to Ireland
every year. So it's kind of. Is
this the last go at it? I mean,
listening. This guy talks depressing anymore.
So, um, it's important for him, I think, that he
(08:44):
could play well. He. Ha. It's crazy to say this, but
he has to have a good first round for confidence.
I would love Shane Lowry to win because
I just like the guy. Dude. I love the guy. He
parties after he wins,
celebrates. That's what he said in his press conference. He said, I feel like, you
know, I lose way more than I win on the Tour. And,
(09:04):
yeah, I celebrated a lot, and rightfully
so. But you got a couple, you got a couple
Irishmen playing in this, and it'll be
exciting to see how they finish. I mean, you got Scotty
Scheffler leading the odds.
I think he was plus 5, plus 300. I think
he's plus 450 currently.
>> Jonathan (09:23):
Plus 4 50. As of now, he's plus 450.
Macro, um, is not too far behind him at plus 700.
Um, dude. But like. And we'll get
into that bet talk here in a few moments.
And by the way, people, we do have a special honorary
guest joining us here for a few minutes to just jump
on the show with us, talk a little bit of golf
(09:44):
recap, uh, maybe a little bit on the US Open. Looking forward to. To
the British Open, but that guy is
the legend Rocco Media. So he's
joining us here on Chasing birdies in about
12 minutes or so, so we will welcome him with
open arms. But I got to tell you, dude, the one guy that
just. And I might have to have a talk with
(10:04):
Joey, I mean, but Oberg,
he gets in the mix, dude. He.
The last couple tournaments that I've been on him,
you know, the Scottish Open and I think the
Canadian Open, he's been in the mix through, like,
two and a half, three rounds, like, right there. Then he
just bombs, like, this past weekend, he
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went. He went like bogey, bogey, triple bogey, or bogey,
bogey, double bogey. He went 4 over.
Um, he was 10 under, and
then he went 4 over over three holes and was
600. Like, he's completely out of it. But
that. That guy can always be a threat in a golf
tournament. But I guess the bigger question is, do you
think it's going to be one of the big dogs that gonna get it done, or do
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you think, uh. Uh, it's not.
>> RB (10:51):
I have a big dog picked, um, but I have
three picks, and two of the three or not, I would consider
big dogs currently. I don't think so, dude.
I don't think it's going to be a, uh, considered, you know,
top five player on the PGA Tour. I
don't think so. I don't think Rory
can get it done with the headspace he is in right
(11:11):
now. I don't know what headspace he's in, but I'm
saying, you know, the U.S. open,
uh, his little chippiness that he has,
um, is he miserable in life? You know, he was
complaining about the greens over in the Scottish Open, and these greens
are shit. Well, but, I mean, let's not forget
you came from Ireland, right? Like, these. These are normal to you,
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actually. Scotland, Ireland, like,
yeah. I mean, they weren't
for the guy that won. And that's the thing. You can't
worry about that kind of stuff. Everybody's got a putt on them, bud.
Everybody.
>> Jonathan (11:43):
Yeah.
>> RB (11:44):
So true.
>> Jonathan (11:45):
Well, so let me hear what you got. I mean, if you want to
go right into that little talk.
>> RB (11:50):
So, um, my. I have three picks.
I'll, uh, start from my long shot and go
and go down at plus 10,000.
Uh, Jason Day.
>> Jonathan (12:01):
That's solid.
>> RB (12:02):
Um, my next pick at plus
5,500. Justin Rose.
M. And then, uh, my number one
pick is. I have him at plus 500.
So Scotty Scheffler well, so that's a big dog, dude.
>> Speaker C (12:18):
Yeah.
>> RB (12:18):
Well, yeah, you got.
>> Jonathan (12:19):
That's your number one pick. But, I mean, he's told me you don't.
Okay.
>> RB (12:23):
I don't think a big dog's gonna win, but I'm still gonna
take him.
>> Jonathan (12:27):
That's your number one pick dog. I
love contradicting statements, too. It's all good.
>> RB (12:33):
And another guy I like,
I'm kind of going back and forth is Adam Scott
because he plays in the wind, good iron player.
So let's hear yours.
>> Jonathan (12:45):
I don't have at this moment in time. I honestly, I didn't
do any picks. Um, but if I were
to pick a couple folks right now, who I would take for
sure. Uh, number one,
Tommy Fleetwood. I think he's about
plus 2600. The reason being is because
I learned a couple weeks ago he's never won.
And guess what? The guy grew up over in this type of
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playing golf. He's been playing good golf. Now, can he handle his
nerves? I don't know. But he can be in the mix,
so I think Fleetwood is probably a good play. And
then I look at someone on the back end, like,
pretty far down the line, you know, like potentially
another Sam Burns type player or
Cam Smith making a turn to try to potentially
(13:30):
get. Get a dub on it. Um,
Cam Young, even. So, someone in
that type of mix. And then if I were to
pick somebody who I would label like a big dog or
someone that can be really, really kind of right there
with it, um, I'm probably
going to go with John Rahm, and I think
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his games, he's been playing great all year,
and there's good value on him. John Rom plus
1200 right now. And, uh,
you know, but anybody could win.
Anybody.
>> RB (14:02):
It's the British Open.
>> Jonathan (14:04):
It's the British Open. You got. I don't
know. Have you taken a look at the forecast?
>> RB (14:08):
I have not looked into the weather, but, um,
that can play a huge deciding factor in all of this. It
could be beautiful. When we were over there, it was beautiful.
I was actually. It was actually like this week.
Yeah, I think we were there, like, July 22nd to the
28th. So a week later.
Um, but it could be beautiful. And if
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it's beautiful and the wind's not terrible,
scores might start going low. But if it gets gusty and
rainy and all the elements, which I enjoy
watching at the British Open, I feel like that's the
British Open. Right. Who knows? What.
What happens? I. I do say, uh, this is my favorite major
to watch. Because, but you get up at three in the morning
(14:49):
and we got, we got golf.
>> Jonathan (14:51):
Yeah. And that can buy that. You know, I'm
cool with the fact that we wake up early on the weekend
and golf's on, you know, by 10 o' clock, the leaders are going
teeing off. And that's cool to me because then it
kind of frees up the rest of your day. You don't got to feel like you're, uh,
couch bum eating combos and chilling.
So I do like that aspect that, that
(15:11):
the, this golf tournament provides golf at
an earlier time slot. And look,
I'm certainly upset that this is our last major, but, man, I
am stoked. Especially like
watching the US Open. Okay,
Watching the US Open. We know Oakmont. We've played
Oakmont a bunch. We understand it.
(15:32):
Got to see it in real time with these guys playing it and
saw what it brought. Now the British,
we got to play Royal Port Rush. Now. I can't tell you all the holes
off the top of my head now at this point, but, uh,
I sure as hell will remember them when I see them, and I'll
know. So it's like, okay, it's going to take me back a
little bit to hanging out with you guys, you know, how about eat?
>> RB (15:52):
I for sure remember the first five holes. I
just, I think that that day when we played was a little
windy, so. So the old head was a little down, boys.
>> Jonathan (16:01):
Yeah. Ian Patrick, the legend that he
is on the bus ride in Northern Ireland, he got sick. We
stopped at the gas station. He wanted milk. And it's like
90 degrees in Ireland, and we're on this sprinter van
with like barely any ac or on these
back roads in Northern Ireland. And
Ian just starts projectile vomiting everywhere
(16:21):
in this bus. And then it's like
everyone is all, ugh, the
smell. Gross. So our
driver. There's a reason why I'm telling this story.
Our driver, Sean, pulls off and lets
Ian do what he has to do. And I vividly remember Ian
getting that bag, putting it in the garbage can on the street.
(16:41):
Yes.
>> RB (16:42):
No, I remember him, um, vomiting in the
bag and the bag breaking and it goes.
Yes, in the bus.
>> Jonathan (16:50):
Yeah. Well, I remember the garbage
can where it was full, seeping out on the outside
of the garbage can.
>> RB (16:57):
And he sharted. Let's not. He
literally sharted.
>> Jonathan (17:01):
And he was not like. I mean, he
was kind of in an urgent state, but at the
same time, he was pretty much doing
on Ian time. Like, I'll get to it when I get to it. Like,
guys, Shut the hell up. I'm sick. Okay? You're going
to deal with this. Let me get back to me.
So we kind of just moseyed around this little town for a couple of minutes while
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Ian dealt with his puke. And, you know, it's hot.
Everyone's like, what the hell's going on? But Ian texted Sean
this weekend and told him he
wants to go back to Northern Ireland next year. Can you set up a
trip? And he ended the conversation with him, and,
uh, he said, what you think,
question mark. I could
not stop laughing. He said, what you think,
(17:45):
Leg Sean? Meanwhile, Sean's probably like, who the fuck's this guy?
Oh, Ian, uh. Yeah. How you doing, man? How
you doing?
>> RB (17:52):
That pooped himself and puked all over my bus.
>> Jonathan (17:54):
Yeah, I got you. I got you.
Good, uh, times, man. That was good.
That was good.
>> RB (18:02):
Well, our buddy, uh, Rocco will be joining
here in a few minutes,
and I'm looking forward to getting his thoughts on a few things.
Um, you know, Oakmont,
um. Was the Sam Burns rolling
correct from a Tour player's
perspective? Um, talk a little bit about his
experiences at the British Open and a little bit about
(18:24):
the media. Um, Colin Morikawa specifically.
Um, Rory McElroy specifically.
See, get his thoughts on that, because I'll tell you this much. Um,
I don't think that he approves of how they're handling
it. And,
um, it'll be interesting to get his
take.
>> Jonathan (18:42):
That ruling was.
You know, that. That was. That was tough watching him
in 15 with that water. But
I don't know that that was one for the,
uh.
You got your second Zen in right now, too. Alps.
Oh, the Alps. The Alps.
>> RB (19:02):
I'm on sixes now, but I have my only gone up.
>> Jonathan (19:06):
My only complaint with the Alps is the fact that you don't have a little
slot underneath to kind of dump them. When you're done, you got
to put them back in or you got to find a garbage can.
I'm so used to that Zins. Whenever I just want to take it out, I
just turn the can over, take the small ring
out and bump it in.
>> RB (19:22):
I never found that, by the way. Like, I was looking.
And you know who told us that was Story
Snyder.
>> Jonathan (19:29):
Story Snyder told us that.
>> RB (19:31):
Story Snyder is the one who introduced you, and
your mind was absolutely blown.
>> Jonathan (19:37):
Well, it happened to me on the way back from Colorado. I'm on
the airplane, and this kid sitting two seats next to me, I
turn the can over and I put it in, and I'm, um. I go
back to minding my own business. And he hits me. He says, what
the hell did you just do with that? I said, what do you mean? He said, the
zincain. You turned it over? And I said,
yeah, but I said, I put the dead soldiers here in this
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ring. And he. His mind was blown.
And then I put my headphones back in and mind my own business, so.
And take care, bud.
M. I didn't even
charge him.
>> RB (20:08):
Meanwhile, I got yelled at for having his in can
out in the open on the airplane. And you're over here
educating some kid on it. I mean, like,
guy came over to me and said, hey, um, you're not allowed
to have that on the airplane. I don't care. But the
rest of the staff will yell at you for that.
Like, bud, I'm not doing anything.
>> Jonathan (20:30):
Yeah, it's not, um.
>> RB (20:31):
It's not like I'm spitting in a bottle,
which we did on the way. On the way to St. Lucia.
I'm like, what's that smell? Guy in the same row as me across
the aisle had an old school chewing.
Spitting in a bottle, and it was
disgusting. I wanted to puke. The smell,
um, of it.
>> Jonathan (20:49):
Well, it's really not that bad, you know?
It's really not that bad. The TSA agents are the
worst, though. Well, I mean, I appreciate their service, but, man,
these guys and girls are just in bad moods all the
time. Do I got to take your shoes off? No, you don't take your shoes
off. Does it look like you need to take your shoe off? Well, I don't know.
Everywhere else I do. No, put everything in.
(21:10):
All right. Let me get my laptop out. Don't take your laptop out.
This thing's high tech. You don't need to do it. Okay.
Sorry. Should I take my hat off? No, I'm
like, damn, that was me.
>> Speaker C (21:22):
You can't do.
>> RB (21:22):
There he is. He is the boy. Rocco.
>> Speaker C (21:26):
You told me. 8:15. What time is it?
>> RB (21:28):
Well, 8:15, boys.
>> Jonathan (21:30):
Yeah, yeah.
>> Speaker C (21:31):
Ah.
>> RB (21:32):
I mean, where are we at today? Are we at, uh, Laurel or.
>> Speaker C (21:34):
I'm in. I'm in Hannah's town right now.
>> RB (21:36):
I love it. Hannah's Town Country Club. Rocco
mediate.
>> Speaker C (21:40):
We did a couple things here. It's pretty nice, though.
What we. What's going on here?
Really cool, Rock.
>> RB (21:46):
We don't want to take too much of your time. We appreciate calling in. There's a couple things
we've got to talk about with you. Um, Fire
away. The. The state of the PGA Tour and
the media. Yeah. M. Specifically, Colin
Morikawa, Rory McElroy.
Um, something's going on with Rory McElroy,
clearly. Uh, because he went from being the voice of the
PGA Tour to not wanting to talk to anybody.
>> Speaker C (22:09):
Yeah, he. Yeah, he did. Um, they
kind of buried him with a. When he was standing
up for the PGA Tour and then found out there's a
deal behind it. Not behind his back, but behind everybody's back
with, um, the live thing. You see how that worked out? That worked
out nice. Um,
and yeah, he just said, enough is enough. And I don't
(22:30):
blame him for that, but
nobody's bigger than the game. Yeah, we have to
talk. You have to talk. That's people one.
That's what you have to talk about.
Um, the, uh, the, the I don't owe
anybody anything crap is complete.
It's. It's nauseating. Said it a million times. I don't care what
(22:51):
people think about what I say ever. I could care
less. Um, they'll come back and say, well, a
couple guys said, well, you're just mad that you didn't have a,
a good career. I'm like, call it what you want. I'm just
telling you the truth.
>> RB (23:04):
Right.
>> Speaker C (23:04):
You speak to people when you're asked questions. You don't
go to Palmer's course and the Palmer's tournament and say,
uh, I don't know anybody, anything. He would have strung him up. Oh,
you put him up against a locker. Okay, so stop
it. You can't win the argument. There's nothing to win.
It's wrong. I don't care what they say. It's even bigger
now because of all this media stuff. So just
(23:25):
say something.
>> RB (23:26):
And I said to ryan, I said, Mr. Palmer would have absolutely
snapped based on our conversation. You and I had a.
Privately. But this. It's
easy to talk when you play well, right? You want to talk to. Everybody
wants to talk.
>> Speaker C (23:38):
Anybody can do it.
>> RB (23:40):
Piece of cake. But when you're a face of the game, I. E.
Colin Morikawa, Rory McElroy just.
>> Speaker C (23:45):
I would definitely not calm. He's definitely not a face of the game.
That's not even close to the face of the game. But he's a very
well known, very great player. Love the way he
plays the game, but just stop it.
>> Jonathan (23:57):
Yeah.
>> Speaker C (23:57):
Because it doesn't. It looks bad. It looks bad. So,
like I said, I don't care what people say about what
I say about this. I'm looking out as a fan
going, really? You're not going to tell me what, how you're feeling right
now? This is what you're supposed to do you don't want to do
it. But the key is, like you just said,
and that's what Mr. Palmer said, it's easy to talk. When you shoot
(24:18):
65, can you do it when you shoot 75, can you do it
when you get beat? That's the. That's the test. Sometimes, of course, you
don't want to do it. You're mad, you're sad, you're upset, you're
whatever. But that's when you got to go. All right,
I'm just going to tell them how I feel. Even if I say something stupid,
I'm talking.
>> Jonathan (24:34):
Yeah, yeah.
>> Speaker C (24:34):
You never say, I don't owe anybody
anything. Well, actually, you do.
>> Jonathan (24:40):
Yeah. Because.
>> RB (24:41):
Yeah.
>> Speaker C (24:43):
It's like beating a dead horse. So they don't care.
You saw this reaction. Oh, I.
I don't, uh. I'm not. You know, it was like, what's wrong with
these guys?
>> RB (24:53):
Yeah. It's everybody else's.
>> Speaker C (24:54):
Why would they say that? Yeah, of course it is. Of course it is. It's
called entitlement, and that's what it's called. And it's
nauseating. Hey, we're all entitled out there. Trust me.
Uh, you know, it's changed, but we're playing a game for a
living, and you can make tons and tons of money. That's a
pretty good deal. So you might want to,
you know, show some respect for
(25:15):
it. I don't know. Call me crazy.
>> RB (25:16):
Yeah.
>> Jonathan (25:17):
Yeah. No, I think you get all these.
>> Speaker C (25:18):
Guys that go on the other side, like, oh, you're just
this, um. Um. This has nothing to do with me.
Zero. You can call my stuff whatever you want to
call it. I don't care. I do not care. But.
And why are you talking about it? They'll give me that one, too. And
I'm like, well, because I was asked a question, so I answered
it. Try it sometime. Yeah,
(25:39):
So I don't care what the answer. I don't care what they think of
the answer. But you're gonna ask me a question. I'm going
to tell you what I think. Is it always right? Of course not.
>> RB (25:48):
You're right. Right.
>> Speaker C (25:49):
It's right this time.
>> RB (25:51):
I'll tell you. I'll tell you this much. Rock. We. We were watching the
US Open, uh, at Oakmont Sunday, and there's a little rain. Del
turned it. You know, turned it on, and here comes a replay of
you at Torrey Pines. And I even talked to you.
>> Speaker C (26:03):
I lost again. Huh? Uh.
>> RB (26:07):
And I said, you look like you're having a time of your Life
out, uh, there. And you said I was.
>> Speaker C (26:13):
Yeah, 100%. Yeah. It just doesn't.
I don't know. Golf is still. I love watching these kids
play. I love the PGA Tour. I do. I have
nothing. Uh, I'm not that guy. Oh, they're playing for this. I think it's
great that Scheffler made $70 million last year.
Okay.
>> Jonathan (26:28):
Yeah, he earned it.
>> Speaker C (26:29):
You know, he played 20 sometimes won nine
times. He's. He was paid very well.
I love Major league baseball, but a major league pitcher makes
80, 90, 100 million a year, and he works once a week.
Stop it. Okay. It's okay that the guys make the
PGA Tour. Guys make money. It's okay that, well, uh,
they're playing for too much. What. What does that mean?
Yeah, what does that mean? So I. I think it's great the way
(26:51):
that's gone, but you have to give it back.
You. You have to. Even if you don't, you have to learn to act.
Okay? Some guys can't talk to the media. Some guys
are. Whatever. Give. Go find somebody
that can teach you to speak. That's the key.
Because some guys have no clue.
And, um, you know, with Rory going where he went,
(27:12):
something's going on. And you. You can't say he's a. He's an
a. You can't say. You can't call him names. It's like something's
happening, but surprising because he's a wonderful kid,
and so is Colin. They're wonderful kids, but
God dang it, give. Give me the fan
what I want. Because I'm the one watching you guys, the
fan wise. You know what I'm saying? Tell me how you feel.
(27:33):
That Henley beat you by pitching in on 16 at
Bay Hill. And so it's not like you stunk. He just.
You got beat. So what? It's gonna happen again? Trust me.
>> RB (27:42):
Yeah.
>> Jonathan (27:42):
Yeah. You know, it could happen this week.
>> RB (27:45):
What do you got there? Eight shots of. Eight shots there.
Espresso.
>> Speaker C (27:48):
Yeah, it's down. It's. Yeah, down there. Brian. Julian. Brian's
right here. We're just kind of hanging around and, um, looking,
uh, at Hannah town. But. Yeah, it's just it. But it
doesn't. We could talk about this for a hundred years. It's
not going to change, but I hope it does. Let me put it that
way, because you can't be that way. You
can't.
>> Jonathan (28:06):
I always appreciate your candidness, Rock. I mean, I
think, like I said, that's the way to be. I
want to know your Opinion. Uh, rolling back
because we. Pep and I were talking about this a little bit, but back
to Oakmont, and then we'll look ahead briefly here at this week's
major.
But back to Oakmont. Obviously, the course played well for the
guys. A little wet.
>> Speaker C (28:25):
Oh, yeah.
>> Jonathan (28:25):
What. What's your thought on that ruling on 15
with Sam Burns not getting relief?
>> Speaker C (28:31):
That was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen,
actually. Um, you know, whether it's. If
it's in the rule. If it is, obviously it's the rule. That's the
stupidest thing ever. So what you're telling me is my ball can
be submerged in water in the middle of the fairway,
but my feet are dry, so I have to
play really, you know, what is. What. What is
(28:51):
hitting the fairway? It's kind of. It's supposed to be what you're supposed to
try to do, and all of a sudden, he's buried up to his.
You know. It was a joke. Now, was it.
Did it cost in the open? It very well could have.
We don't know what happened. If he hits it on the green and two putts or makes
birdie or. Or makes bogey, for that matter, we don't
know what happens. We'll never know. But
(29:11):
everybody, even on our, uh. Even on my, uh, the old guys
tour, our tour, they're like, what the hell kind of ruling.
I mean, I know it was, but if that's the rule book, that's the rule book. It
just needs to be changed, right?
>> Jonathan (29:22):
Yeah.
>> Speaker C (29:22):
Because it did cost them. It cost him big time. We don't know.
What if he gets it up there to a foot? We don't know.
>> RB (29:28):
The whole thing changes, probably. Yeah.
>> Speaker C (29:29):
Uh, yeah, the whole thing changes. But the guy. I mean,
JJ deserved. I mean. Oh, my God, Was that ridiculous?
>> RB (29:34):
How about balls of steel there, huh? Oh, my God.
>> Speaker C (29:37):
Struck him. He just out hit him coming home. And that's what it takes
in those things, you know? He really did, um. It
was cool to watch. You know, you saw glimpses of him at the
players. It was. I wasn't surprised.
>> RB (29:48):
And you were paired with Mr. Palmer in his last
major.
>> Speaker C (29:52):
Yeah.
>> RB (29:52):
Your last U.S. open.
>> Speaker C (29:54):
Yeah.
>> RB (29:54):
That's. That's incredible.
>> Speaker C (29:56):
Oh, it was insane. Yeah, it was. It was. I've never seen
anything like it. Um, and then you never will. Um, it was.
The whole world stopped when he finished on 18.
>> RB (30:05):
Two more things to talk about. Uh, one, the
Jordan front. What do you. What's your thoughts on the revs?
You like them? I feel like, that's right up your alley.
>> Speaker C (30:14):
I'm not on those at all.
>> RB (30:15):
Really.
>> Speaker C (30:17):
No, no, they're cool, but I,
uh. They're not me. I m. I can't wear them because I didn't get
they.
>> Jonathan (30:23):
They really bite into the ground. Good man.
>> Speaker C (30:25):
Yeah. I just like the fire. My favorites are. My favorites are the
fives. Still. I still love you.
>> RB (30:30):
Always got so much style. I love it.
>> Speaker C (30:32):
I wear them.
>> RB (30:32):
Shorts and a T shirt.
>> Speaker C (30:33):
Well, defined style. Yeah, define style. Yeah.
>> Jonathan (30:36):
Well, listen, when. When. When Brandle
Shambley had you on and they were showing highlights, that's why I
texted you guys. I said, they need to talk about your
style now, man.
>> Speaker C (30:45):
You.
>> Jonathan (30:46):
You've evolved. You like a new man.
>> Speaker C (30:48):
It's just a little. I don't know what you call it, but a lot of people
hate it. And once again, I don't care.
>> Jonathan (30:53):
I don't. I love it.
>> Speaker C (30:55):
Yeah, if they don't like it, they could go watch someone else. It's fine with
me. I don't. You know, I'm just trying to hang out and
be comfortable. I did all the other stuff for all those other
years, but, um, having our tours. We have a great
time there.
>> Jonathan (31:08):
You guys are the best.
>> Speaker C (31:09):
We'll continue to do that. It's. It's cool. But
I don't know. I think Rory's gonna have
something to say about this open. I'm just telling you.
>> Jonathan (31:18):
Yeah, that's what I want to segue in here, because I know, you know,
we want to be cognizant of the time hearing for you, but, uh,
Royal Port Rush Pep and I played it three years ago.
I'm sure you've played it a handful of times.
>> Speaker C (31:28):
Seen it. It looks ridiculously cool. Yeah, it looks
really, really cool. I played county down and some other stuff, but
I've never played up there.
>> Jonathan (31:36):
It's going to be a challenge, and that's what we were discussing. Who do we
think could be. Is it going to be a big dog, or are we going to have
someone from the back who no one's.
>> Speaker C (31:43):
Well, I. I don't know what the weather's going to be,
but I love Rory just because it's Rory. And I love
Scotty. I m like Scotty every week. That's my Pick
him pretty much every week, because how do you not pick him?
If he putts good, he beats you. Um, but
Rahm is somebody to be reckoned with, too. You watch.
You watch Ron, because, you know, I know he played good last
(32:05):
week at Valderrama. Um, but
the Way he drives it, you know, it's
over there. It's. He's. That he can hit that thing four feet off
the ground a mile and it might take that. You
know, Lowry is a great driver. Obviously, he won last time.
Um, so if you look at those guys. But I think
Rory's got to have. He's kind of. He finished the grand
(32:26):
slam. Um, which was. It
was so cool. It was so cool to see him actually do that because
he, you know, you can say that he deserved it.
Okay. It was good that. So it's. I'm glad it's over with
and maybe some let down after that and whatever,
you know? Um, but I think he's like, you know,
last time I missed the cut here, and the people were
(32:47):
just. Were crazy, and I was trying to do it for them. I
think something's. I don't know. I hope so.
It'd be cool to see that, but, you know, Scotty's gonna be.
They're all going to be there, you know, if Xander's showing up again. He's feeling
better, I guess.
>> Jonathan (32:59):
Yeah.
>> RB (32:59):
No media or.
Or that's Colin. Sorry. No media for Colin.
>> Speaker C (33:03):
No media this week for Colin. That.
That's what he said.
>> RB (33:07):
No, I'm just kidding. I'm kidding.
>> Speaker C (33:09):
Oh, okay.
>> Jonathan (33:10):
Jesus. Please don't give starting rumors.
Starting rumors.
>> Speaker C (33:13):
Well, Rock, all you got to do is talk. Whether it's for five
seconds or 10 minutes, something. Please, just.
>> RB (33:19):
Yeah, I love it. I love it.
>> Speaker C (33:22):
We don't want much.
>> RB (33:23):
Well, we love having you back here in Pittsburgh. It's good that you always
come back to the old stomping grounds, check the boys out.
Uh, Hannah's Town. I'm sure you'll pop over to the old Mr.
Palmer's place a few times. Um, we
always. We always appreciate your time, Rock.
>> Speaker C (33:38):
Anytime, guys. Anytime. You know where I am.
>> Jonathan (33:40):
Well, you stay well, Rock. Keep playing good. And,
uh, I gotta appreciate playing good.
>> Speaker C (33:45):
Haven't played good for a while, but I'm coming around.
>> RB (33:47):
Let's get it going around.
>> Speaker C (33:48):
Have a good time, you guys. I'm not talking to you guys about this.
Leave me alone. I'm not speaking. Let me
know anytime you need me. Anytime you need me.
>> RB (33:56):
All right, buddy.
>> Jonathan (33:57):
Thanks, Rock. We appreciate you. Thanks.
We'll see.
>> RB (34:03):
Uh, so our boy Rocco Mediate had a few thoughts
there, and, uh, he
came back from a tour event, Senior tour event. Drove in
late and, uh, popped on. He's
out at Hannah's Town right now, checking out. I haven't been there in a
long Time.
>> Jonathan (34:18):
I haven't been to Hannah's town since junior golf
back in the day. There's some good tracks up in that way. Indiana
Country Club, Hannah's town, Tyler
Ridge used to be a nice plot spot, you know, and then obviously
Laurel Valley and Latrobe Country Club.
Uh, good stuff, man. I like Rock's take,
man. He's just pretty to the point, man. And he
(34:39):
shows that way, though.
>> RB (34:40):
He's always has been.
>> Jonathan (34:42):
His show is phenomenal. Uh,
Jeff Dyer gets on it. I've listened. It's Monday, I think it's
Monday nights at 7 o' clock on SiriusXM
and he yucks it up for an hour. So, um,
and it's awesome. I think it's. I think it's pretty cool to
see that. But. But I do have to
admit Rock and I are kind of on the same field with Jon
(35:02):
Rahm right now.
>> RB (35:04):
You caught him earlier in the podcast. You said John Rob,
bud. So, hey, uh, uh, maybe. Maybe
that's the one, dude.
>> Jonathan (35:10):
Could be it, buddy.
>> RB (35:11):
Which means probably not, but probably not.
Speaking of golf, you've got the state open
here in a few weeks, or actually in a week. Um, and
then you roll right into the Chasing birdies too, man. How's the
game feeling, bud?
>> Jonathan (35:24):
Game? Honest to God, it's, It's good. I mean,
the, the one spot of my game right now that's a little weak
is my driving, which is, you know, I've said it before,
uh, but it's coming,
coming around. But my iron striking is really good.
My chipping and wedging, I'm wedging it really
well right now. My feel around the greens is really
(35:45):
good.
>> RB (35:45):
Good.
>> Jonathan (35:46):
And I'm rolling the rocks, so.
No, I feel good, man. I almost flew one in on number
two the other day. I was playing a little nightcap round with
BCATs at Nemacolin, which for our
listeners out there, Nemacollen is a proud sponsor
and partner of Chasing Birdies. So make sure you check
them out online@nemacolan.com 2 phenomenal
(36:06):
peak die courses and great lodging, great food,
great fun. Uh, so book your stay at Nemecol
if you get a chance, but I went
up with BK earlier this week, played nine
holes. Twilight. Twilight, right?
>> RB (36:20):
Nine holers. You guys are.
>> Jonathan (36:21):
We're nine holers. We're the nine holers. And, uh,
number two. I hit this shot in number two and
it's just going right at the pin. And
dude, it didn't even hit the pin. It flew in the back of the cup
and Ricocheted off, had a nice big dent
in the hole.
>> RB (36:36):
Drink birdie?
>> Jonathan (36:37):
Uh, no, because I was 20 yards away.
Um, but I proceeded to get up and down the next
hole, made, uh, birdie on four,
made birdie on five, made birdie
on seven, made a long parse save on
eight. And then I three jacked nine for bogey, shot two
under. So I fell pretty
good. And BK played good, too. BK was back the nine
(37:00):
holer. He shot even. Yeah, I mean, we love to
see it.
>> RB (37:04):
Good.
>> Jonathan (37:04):
We love to see it. And then I'm taking a couple guys this
week at, uh, from work. I'm
taking them to Pikewood here, uh, tomorrow
for a round of golf. Jared Detwiler, good friend
and, uh, Chartiers country club
expertise. Guy just played in the club, uh,
championship. Said he did not play too well, but
(37:26):
we'll see how his game looks at pike with this weekend or this
week and, uh, you know, friends. And friends.
That's what we're doing. That's what we're doing.
>> RB (37:35):
I love it, dude. I love it.
>> Jonathan (37:37):
So, uh, you got another tournament coming up next week,
my friend. You got your Yakag Country Club,
AKA Moose Club member
guests, you and Neil Walker.
And then it is the
chasing birdie's two man at
Nemacorn. Dude, I would
just think of Neil. Can I just say something? I just need
(37:59):
people to know this. This is totally random, but when I
said Neil and I thought of Pittsburgh, I got to tell you something,
dude. Zach Frazier
is one hell of a man,
okay? He is just one hell of a man. Our
starting center for the Pittsburgh Steelers
is a good man. Um, had
(38:19):
a little chat with him about, uh, WVU
Medicine's children golf outing that you
and I are a part of in September, which we need to
get on that a little bit. But, um, so for the
auction, he donated a signed jersey and
would not let me Venmo him for the shipping. And I
said, bud, I said, when I see you, I'm gonna shake your hand with a 10
(38:41):
spot in it. Did it on his own. He's in the
middle of football season.
>> RB (38:45):
I love it.
>> Jonathan (38:46):
He's just having a baby, and, you
know, and then there he is worrying about sending Bash a, uh,
jersey for the auction. But he did it, and he did
it with his heart, so he's a great man. See,
humans like that. We need more of.
>> RB (39:01):
Yeah, Walks and I. We've been back to
walks. Walks and I've been talking. We like where our games
are at right now, and, uh,
see if we can cause a Little havoc in the member guests.
>> Jonathan (39:12):
Yeah, it's going to be fun. I'll be rooting for you. If I can
get in on any action, um,
please let me know.
>> RB (39:19):
I just hope I didn't do it.
>> Jonathan (39:21):
I would like to take you. And you had a match against a high schooler. You were on the
ropes a little bit over there at the Moose Club, sending me
updates, you know, getting waxed a little bit early.
>> RB (39:29):
And I mean the kid went from giving me one shot
a hole. He's 22 years old. Joey Gatis
give me one shot a hole to needing four, was 22
shot swing. So I gave him his four. I was two down through two,
got it to um, one
up, two up, three up on the front nine
and um, on the back, man, he made a four
(39:51):
for three on 17, a part of five and I made a four
and uh, we were, I was one down on
the back in all square overall,
got the 18, he stuffs it to about four feet
and I have like a little 15 yard pitch shot. Played it like a
pot basically and went in and walked off with an
eagle.
>> Jonathan (40:11):
That's awesome.
>> RB (40:12):
And uh, fired a little 65 on the boy.
>> Jonathan (40:14):
I mean you're playing some good golf, dude. So, I mean the
last, last time I played with you, you shot 68.
>> RB (40:20):
68? Yeah, my last three were 67.
68, 65.
>> Jonathan (40:26):
It's awesome, dude. I mean it helps, you know, when
you can reach to par fives with the wedge, but honest to God, that's still
good putting. Kidding.
>> RB (40:34):
Actually, part two par fives on, on that match,
which I was really upset about.
>> Jonathan (40:39):
Uh, uh, I
know that's like us when we played the other day. We're scooting through and
13's like the easiest hole.
>> RB (40:47):
You had 12 straight pars going in that hole.
>> Jonathan (40:49):
Yeah, 12 straight pars, 13 easy par five. I
make six. Oh, I kind of hit in the hazard
on my second shot, but. Yeah, but Nate, birdie on
you on the next hole. Dude. You made a nice 30 footer. And I
made a 25 footer on top of you for two. He proceeded
to shoot 68, 71 for this guy. But
all is well in the golf world, people.
(41:10):
Golf season is ending and summer
is slowly winding down. School buses are going to be back
out. So make sure you
soak up the dog days of summer because they are here,
here. And there's no better way to do it than to
dive into the British Open this weekend. Royal Port Rush,
Northern Ireland, with the players all in it.
(41:30):
And it's gonna be a good one. It's gonna be a good one.
So, Pepe, I got, uh,
nothing else for you.
>> RB (41:37):
I got nothing else. Uh, chasing underscore
Birdies. Follow us.
Um, I know over the next week and a half, you're gonna
see a lot of content from us, from the event. And,
uh, which, speaking of, you need to reach out to that guy for some
video stuff table.
>> Jonathan (41:53):
So, yeah, you're right.
>> RB (41:55):
But you all have a good week. Enjoy the British Open,
and please talk to the media when you get a chance.
>> Jonathan (42:02):
Talk to the press. The press wants to hear from you.
But as always, guys, we appreciate you tuning
in to this week's episode of, uh,
Chase and Birdie's got a big. Give a big shout out over to
simpler Media. Ali, Emily and Evo for putting this thing
together on the fly, getting this thing out on time
because it's two hosts were a little late. And thank
(42:22):
you to Rachel London and Jacqueline de
Paterio for your social media help.
We hope you all have a blessed weekend.
Enjoy the final major of the year at Royal Port
Rush, and we will catch y' all
in two.
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