January 27, 2024 • 71 mins
Guess who almost made it to Midwinter Gaming Convention before the flu and a snowstorm double-teamed us? That's right, me and Angie had to switch gears, but we're not letting that dampen our spirits! This episode, we reveal our top 5 picks from designer Phil Walker-Harding, we discuss not only the missed conventions but also the anticipation of future ones like Strong Tower and PhoenixCon. Plus, we're pondering the puzzle of how to bring our son into the fold of tabletop gaming and conventions without pushing too hard. All that and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
It's time for another episode of the wildly
inconsistent but still wildlypopular Chasing Meeples.
On today's show, chris andAngie discuss their top five
Bill Walker Harding games, andChris is ready to start 2024
(00:27):
with another Max Points quiz.
Until it happen, stay tuned tofind out the laughs, the banter.
It all starts now.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Hello, hello everybody.
This is a Chasing Meeplespodcast, and today I am your
host, but sitting with me is mylovely co-host.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Well, hello, hello, I'm Chris.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And I bet you're wondering what I'm doing here
talking.
Well, don't fear everybody anddon't turn off the dial, isn't
it a dial button?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Turn off the dial.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Don't hit that pause button, because Chris is here.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
For a second there.
I thought we were like on AMradio or something.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, I am that old, I am that old.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Why am I not allowed to be in the big chair?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
You're not allowed to be in the big chair is the same
reason why we did not attendthe Midwinter Gaming Convention,
and that is we have had a roundrobin of seasonal flu go around
the house.
It hit me a little bit, Ididn't have it severe, but then
it went into our son and he gotit pretty bad right around when
(01:48):
we were going to go formidwinter and he had the high
fever and so we chose not to goand I was a little disappointed
because we had been planning itsince last summer.
But family takes priority andwe did not go.
Our weather was also horriblethat week and then you were
(02:08):
afflicted with it as well.
And the golden voice and I know, I know, and everybody should
flood our comments and our emailand let everybody know, let
Chris know, that even though hedoesn't have the golden voice
this week, that you still lovehim anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Oh, thanks, Angie.
Well, here's the thing.
It's actually better today thanit was two days ago.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, where you sounded like the neighbor's dog.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well, yes, I sounded like the neighbor's dog.
I was singing.
I sounded like Cookie Monster,but neighbor's dog.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
That's like a shredder yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
And I was singing and my vocal issues and 104 fevers
and all that fun stuff which bythe way really sucks everybody.
Let's absolutely talk aboutwhat we wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
We were going to do.
We were going to record thispodcast in Milwaukee while we
were at the midwinter convention.
It was going to be.
We had some time set aside.
There was a room set aside forus, so we were pretty excited
about it.
I thought there was somethingthat I was also going to do live
on Instagram and we were goingto have something a little bit
(03:24):
special.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, but there is there's always.
Next year there's going to beplenty of other conventions.
Unfortunately, this one didn'thappen.
It seemed like it was a goodtime.
I did get a chance to see someof the pictures that people were
posting online, but we were notthe only ones that were
affected by the weather.
Obviously, we had this bigstorm come through, took out,
(03:48):
laid down a lot of snow, a lotof snow in a short period of
time, and the convention I guessthey were on emergency power.
Yeah.
So imagine that that might havebeen interesting if we were
there.
(04:08):
That would have been reallycool.
I mean, if so?
Primarily it's a role playinggame convention, but there is a
nice board game presence thereas well.
Imagine the ambiance If you area dungeon master and all of a
sudden the power goes out andnow you're working on emergency
power.
I think that just adds anelement of an element of
(04:32):
storytelling to your game.
Yes, so I'm picturing, you know, like power goes out, those
lights come on in the corners ofthe room and everybody's oh,
what's going on.
But it was probably, wasn'tthat?
It was probably laughing anddancing and singing and gaming.
(04:53):
So there's going to be plentyof other conventions.
Angie, I know we plan on doingsomething special, but we will
get there someday.
There is one convention that Iam looking forward to not
missing again for like thesecond year, and that is strong
tower convention.
(05:13):
That's another convention thatis happening in that happens in
Milwaukee, wisconsin, as far asin the Manitowoc area we have
the Fire and Ice convention.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Fire and Ice is going on next month.
Then there's PhoenixCon thissummer.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So, so there are a couple.
There were a couple going on.
We could probably do the samething at PhoenixCon that we did
last year.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Just grab a couch in the lobby Just grab a couch.
Start recording.
As much as we would like tosomeday get to one of the bigger
cons, right now it is just notin the cards for us financially.
And just family wise right.
Yeah, we have commitments thatwe can't just pick up and pick
(05:58):
up and go and say here it alsoyeah, that is an experience that
I would just love to bring ourson to.
I would love to be able tobring our son to GenCon.
I'd love to be able to bringhim to I don't know the Dice
Tower cruise right.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
However, let's think of the big ones first.
Let's just throw them intocrowded.
Go, big right Go big, stick hisheadphones on them and but I
think it would be a coolexperience for him.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
However, here's the problem that Angie and I have
Our son doesn't want to haveanything to do with.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
We're walking around with his switch the whole time.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
He doesn't want to have anything to do with board
games.
So why bring him into somethinglike that that we know he's not
going to like?
And yeah, he could be on hisswitch the whole time.
But how much fun would that befor him?
I don't think it would be funfor him at all.
So that's our dilemma how do weget a child who does not want
(06:58):
to have anything to do withboard games?
We thought there was a littlebit of ray of hope.
Angie used it a little, usedboard games for learning
sometimes and he played it.
We have gotten him some coolgames at his level.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And he still doesn't want to touch it.
He will not touch a game.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
He does not have the attention span we can get
through a round of something.
When I got through and when Igot through Super Mega Lucky Box
with him, we got through threequarters of the game, three
rounds.
(07:39):
And that was pretty good.
That was pretty good, so that'sthe longest.
So we did play Carcazon one dayand we managed to get pretty
well through Carcazon.
But like a lot of other ones,you get through, or he'll
purposely go to sleep.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
He went.
That is our son's.
I don't if you want to call ita defense mechanism, maybe right
, he can fall asleep like that.
He doesn't want to do it, he'sout like a light.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
He played Quirkle.
And what does he do?
He sits on the sofa, lays backand closes his eyes.
I'm here trying to put togethershapes.
Go, oh, look it, I've got allpurple.
Look up, he's snoozing Right.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
But I don't know he can play.
He can play a board game if itis on his Nintendo switch.
He'll play games a roll and moveMario Party, whatever it is
right.
Once you get out of thatdigital space and into that
analog space, he just doesn'twant to have anything to do with
it.
So I guess here's.
Here's the thing, meebleChasers.
(08:43):
If anybody has tips or tricksfor Angie and I, please send us
an email at chasingmeeplecomit's I, I.
There's got to be other parentsout there of special needs
children who might be strugglingwith the same thing.
(09:04):
We don't want to force theminto our hobby, but it would be
awesome to be able to sit downand play a game with our son.
So that's that.
We got a little bit deep for asecond there.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Angie, let's let's we are.
We're not having fun, we'regetting too serious here.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
We may as well just be like.
Well, it goes back to youthinking we're on AM radio, here
we go, we're getting this like.
I'm just going to start talkingin my NPR voice.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That's okay.
We like NPR voice, no, but weare getting serious.
And one thing is here, chris,we have not done this for a long
time, and I was thinking.
Last night we were recording asegment for the don't be bored
YouTube channel.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yes, table is posted by Oliver East.
Oliver East.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Oliver East.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Oliver East.
I may have been saying his namewrong for six months.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Oh my God, angie, I can't.
I, I wasn't even going to gothere.
Okay, now the now theneighbor's dog is coming out in
my voice.
I wasn't even going to go there, Angie, I.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I don't know why I've been doing that for so long and
I'm so embarrassed and I don'tknow how it first occurred to me
.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Oh, I, I know exactly how that went down.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Well, you were, yeah, you were um loading the video
or downloading the video.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
No, no, I was, I was uploading.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I'm still on analog.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It's that whole you're a record.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
You're spinning the record.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I was, yes, I was Uploading, Spitting the record
and yeah, anyway, I was puttingthe tape, cassette tape, into
the envelope and I was mailingit to Oliver Geez, angie Meeple,
jazers, it was.
It was awesome.
So I'm uploading this video.
(11:01):
I have his drop box on thelaptop screen and his name is
right on the top of it.
Angie says wait a minute.
The look on her face.
It finally registered.
Wait a minute.
(11:22):
Why does it say East?
What does it say East?
Like cause?
That's his name.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
No, his last name's Reed.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
So Angie has been calling him Oliver Reed.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I have been promoting somebody named Oliver Reed I
don't know who that is.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I do believe that you even got me into the Oliver
Reed thing for a while.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I know I've said it on this, I've said it on her
podcast, I've said it.
I am.
I've written it.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
It's just amazing.
It was the coolest thing.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I had today.
I had to go edit my latestInstagram post because I had
Oliver Reed on there.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Oh, that's hilarious.
I was just.
I was just Ollie, I was just.
If you do listen, to ourpodcast.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I am so sorry.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I was waiting for you to literally just be like guys,
just so you know.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
And you know what?
I thought his Instagram namewas so weird.
I couldn't figure out where hehad East and I'm like I don't
know.
I don't know why that's hisInstagram name.
Yeah, maybe you know.
I don't know.
He lives on that side of townor something.
I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Oliver Reed, who lives on the East side, that is.
That is hilarious, angie.
But speaking of, if you have achance, go check out Ollie's
channel He'll be bored onYouTube, where we take part in
two videos a monthly videos thathe does, tabletop tea time and
(12:56):
the game of our best of themonth.
We also were lucky enough to beincluded in the best of the
year video.
It's just awesome.
The people that he gets on hischannel are great and it's worth
your time, so you should checkit out.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It is quiz time.
Are you ready, Chris?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I am always ready, angie always.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
All right.
The new year, oh this is thefirst quiz of the year.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
First, quiz of the new year.
I am riding high, whoa Ridinghigh.
I finally achieved Max pointsduring our Christmas
extravaganza episode.
I am, I'm up here, angie, I amup here, and this quiz is going
to be, I said, a new standard.
(14:05):
There will be nothing but Maxpoints quizzes going forward for
the rest of the year.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You know what I just thought of something.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Did you, because I did too, you first.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Okay, me first, because we had one of our
listeners, ken, sent us an emailand he did purchase a game that
you recommended and that wassomething that we had been
joking about.
Maybe I can have Ken come upwith a quiz question or a theme
(14:37):
or something like that Justoccur to me.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Well, that's great.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Ken, if you're listening quiz questions, email
them.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I love that idea.
Angie Meeplechasers chasingmeeples at yahoocom.
Send us your ideas for a quiz,Either a full quiz or quiz ideas
, quiz questions, a theme Putquiz in the subject line and
(15:06):
we'll know exactly what it's allabout.
Angie, that is awesome idea.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Thank you.
Every once in a while ithappens.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I'm not even going to go there Now.
Here's now.
What I was going to say is notanywhere as cool as what you
just came up with.
So my all I was going to say isthis year is going to be the
year of Chris.
It's going to be the year ofChris, there's going to be Max
points quizzes.
Everyone, everyone.
(15:34):
You're going to need theMeeplechasers to give you
quizzes.
Oh, that is how confident I amgoing into 2024.
So the only thing that you knowwhat my mind goes to is Angie
holding a football like what'sher name, lucy and Chris running
at it really, really quick,getting ready to kick that
(15:57):
football.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And Charlie Brown goes flying.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, but that ain't happening.
That will not be happening.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
No more cheering for you mentally, though.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
No, no, I want cutthroat, angie, we are.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
We are back to competitors.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
What is?
Yeah, I want, I want cutthroatLucy, peanut, angie, I don't
know how to play Lucy peanut.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Okay, I'm sure she's got.
Ooh, I'm making notes.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Lucy's last name.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Oh, come on Come on.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Try not to look at what you're writing right in
front of.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Oh, you can't.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I can't see.
No, I trust me, I wear.
I wear bifogels.
However, I can see that.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
All right, let's get on with it.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
This is this one.
This one is a good one.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
All right, I am so ready.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
All right, and this one is called quiz snow, Snow,
so you can imagine what thistheme is here.
So number one on BGG, whichgame with the word snow in the
title is not a real game?
(17:20):
I know you love these.
A iron blood, snow and mud.
B snow tails, T-A-I-L-S.
C a few acres of snow.
D snow angels versus snowmen.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Right out of the gate .
You know the only.
The only other kind of questionthat you know I love more than
this is what is that game rated?
That's going to be number two.
I bet you that's going to benumber two out of the three that
are actually games.
What is the ranking?
And if that's what it is, I'mout.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
No, about when I.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
The game that is not real Is the one where you had to
spell it.
The word tales, because it'seither that or acres of snow.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You're wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Whatever Is it the snow, whatever?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It is Okay, I'm going to say iron, blood, snow and
mud.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yes, no, you don't have to read them to me.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Okay, well, maybe I shouldn't tell you the right
answer and let everybody elsecome.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Now, that's just silly.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Okay, yes, okay, my good ideas are all over.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah, you lost them.
Okay, you're done with a goodidea for the rest of the podcast
.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Snow angels versus snowmen.
That's, that's not the realgame, not the real game.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Alrighty.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
You never said how many max points is.
How many points is max?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Well, this is a 10 point quiz, plus there is a five
point bonus that maybe you canmake up.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Alrighty.
Next question how many games onBGG have the name winter?
Just the one word, winter.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Oh, another one of my favorite.
How many games have the word?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Just winter Pretzel in it, just the word winter,
winter A, one, two is three, c,five or D, seven.
So we have one, three, five orseven.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
How many games only have the name winter as?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
the title, that's it.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Oh seven.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Sorry, it's five.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
This is whatever, lucy, I'm like keeping track of
my score by just making the zerobigger.
Like I put a slash next to it.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I was so proud of this, okay.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Well, you should be.
You're beating me, lucy.
I'm calling you Lucy.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Maybe we should have a rule that there's no more BGG
questions.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
No, no, no.
Okay, this is it.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Which is not a real game, with winter in the title A
, a winter war, B dead of winter, C winter born or D white
winter.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I confidently say it's winter born.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
It's not a real game.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
No, it's white winter Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Whatever, I would have named a game white winter,
and if I was, I'm thinking whitewinter, white winter, yeah,
white winter.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I know Like a war game.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I'm thinking that's a war game, right.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, no, it's an Angie game.
Well.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
I'm not buying it.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
It's horrible already .
So white winter, remember thatOkay.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I'm at zero points right now.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
You're at zero points you are.
I don't think you've evergotten zero.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Starting off the year right.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Okay, and there was a game that you had recently been
looking at.
Last time we were at Nome Gamesand who publish the game?
The White Castle.
Who publishes the game theWhite Castle?
Yeah, yeah who does RenegadeDevere, pandasaurus or Z-Man?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
That's a good question, Angie.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Think of the box.
What?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
is the box.
I know it's got a white castleon it.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
And a winter scene Bottom corner.
It says it says the name.
That is going to be wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
That's going to be wrong you don't get it right,
they'll never send us games.
Come on, chris, no pressure.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah, first and foremost, nobody sends us games.
Well, we can help, but I thinkit's a two-way.
Before I am delaying theinevitable wrong answer here,
but it is a two-way street.
In order for us to get games,we probably should be asking,
but that's okay.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Not necessarily.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Well, I don't think.
Okay, that's not a conversationfor this, okay, so anyway, it's
Z-Man.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Devere?
No, it is not In my world.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I see, in my brain it's a little blue strip on the
side.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
No, it's got the Z-Man logo on the bottom right
hand corner.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
No, it's got the little blue strip on the bottom,
kind of like it does on it'sDevere, it's Devere, okay, I
believe you.
All right.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Oh, this is so bad, this is so bad.
That's what I get for trashtalking.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Where does Devere's newest game, the White Castle,
fall on?
The hotness has of when I madethis list, Is it 16, 4, 20, or
10?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It was 20 on the hot list when you made that.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
It was 16.
No.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
This is the worst quiz ever, angie.
You've had some pretty bad ones, but I'm going to tell you this
is the worst one.
How about another answer?
Okay, out of all of thosequestions that you've asked me
so far, I didn't even get thebonus questions, I still get
five points.
Out of all the questions you'veasked me, there's only one
(23:57):
question that I would consider alegitimate question, and that
was the one you just asked meabout the publisher.
That's just it.
All the other ones Not cool.
That's it Not cool.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
But I'm better than the old ones.
These are actual multiplechoice.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
These are good quiz questions.
I feel like I got a chance.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Come on, you have a chance here for five points.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
No way, don't even ask.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
All right.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Just get me this gunk .
Speaker 2 (24:30):
All right, no bonus question.
How about I ask the bonusquestion if somebody can use?
The answer Okay, all right,which is not an endless winter
expansion.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Oh, gosh, if I get this wrong.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Ancestors, cave paintings, rivers and rafts,
hunters and gatherers.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Ancestors, no, it's hunters and gatherers.
Hunters and gatherers is acarcasson.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, okay, all right , five points.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, don't even give me that, just give me another
zero.
I answered it wrong.
What's my score, angie?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Five.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
How about two and a half Five?
How about?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
two and a half.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Two and a half.
Two and a half.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
No, Give me the zero.
Just say the word.
What is my score?
Angie Zero.
Yeah, yeah, I'll take it Allright.
(26:01):
It is time for Gackpan Games.
Angie and Chris play at night.
Angie, I am still reeling fromthat quiz my poor performance in
that quiz.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Oh, you have to stop pouting because it makes me feel
guilty.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
You should feel guilty.
You're going to start making mesound like the neighbor's dog
again.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I was so upset.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I was feeling it.
I can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I think that's what it is.
You go on with these high hopes.
You've always do that.
Even when it comes to some ofthese games, you go into it with
such high hopes.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
High hopes.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It doesn't always pan out.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
High hopes, high hopes.
I guess that's what happenswhen you, you know, whatever, I
don't know, high hopes, I justcame right in.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I should check and see if that's a game on BGG and
what it's ranked.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
What high hopes.
Yeah, okay, you know what Ithink is great?
I think I think it's great thatI got a zero.
I got that out of my system andwe're good to go.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
So, Angie, while you're making your note, looking
about high hopes, I want totalk about one of the games that
we played recently, and thatgame is ex Libris.
So what is what exactly?
What is ex Libris?
I know that that was kind ofone of your games that you've
wanted for quite a long time andwe ran I think you tried it
(27:40):
from a a a.
Was it a lending library?
Yes, we had a game store intown that had a lending library
and then you didn't see itanywhere, except for one time
when we were in another gamestore and they were selling a
used copy of it.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah.
And they were selling it for avery expensive it was very
expensive for a used copy.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, and luckily, luckily, it was just re released
as a second edition and it wasone of your Christmas presents.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It was.
It was an ex Libris.
You play a librarian and youare trying to build a library
and you have six differentscoring conditions.
You have to have a stablelibrary.
You need to have it inchronological order and
(28:43):
alphabetical order, so each oneof these cars has a number and a
letter.
So now when you are formingyour tableau, which is your
library, you need to, you know,put these all in order.
You have also, there aredifferent topics, subjects, and
some you want to avoid, some youwant to get, there are like a
(29:05):
private goals.
So there's a lot going on inthis game, a lot of factors, a
lot of way to score points.
I like the game.
I really do your ideas.
You have to have the bestlibrary, because the head
librarian is going to comearound and judge.
I enjoy the game.
(29:25):
I know it fell a little flatfor you.
I've never really see you withAP.
This game was kind of workingon your brain.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
It was, but I don't think it was working on my brain
because it was hard.
I think I was just overthinking, like it wasn't even like
analysis, paralysis, oh, what doI do next?
What do I do next?
It was more of less.
I was just overthinking, Ithink, making it harder than it
actually is to play or morecomplex than it was.
(30:00):
I think it might have been theway you explained how to make
your book show.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
It can only be three columns high, but it can be as
wide as you need them.
So you have to start at a pointand then realize, when you're
going down the alphabet, whereyou're going to play some,
because you only have three rows.
So you're kind of trying topinpoint how you're starting
your shelves out.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah, yeah, it was.
It's not a.
It's not a horrible game.
I would like to play it again,just to make sure that it was me
and not the game.
There's a better way to put itright.
I didn't see.
Let's just say by.
(30:50):
You're not wrong when you say,it fell flat for me.
I just remember.
You know you always spoke sohighly of that game.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I enjoy it.
I enjoy it.
I want to play it solo, but Ihear the solo mode is very
difficult, very difficult.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Okay, what is next on the list?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Well, we'll talk about, let's talk about a
Kickstarter that we finally gotto the table and this game is
awesome and that game is Age ofComics.
So that game really resonatedwith me.
In my younger days I was acomic collector.
I do have a collection ofcomics very well taken care of
(31:40):
in the attic and anybody wantsto buy one, reach out to us.
Just kidding Sort of.
But so the comic book collectorin me really really enjoys this
game and it's a golden age.
It takes place in the goldenage of comics.
So what is the golden age ofcomics, everybody?
Well, this is the age where youhad all of the classics like
(32:06):
Superman, batman, when they werefirst started, when people were
just just it was, the media wasnew, the media was was fresh
and budding and and it was, itwas good, it was good times and
yes.
So anyway, that's the goldenage of comics, right?
What is the game about?
(32:29):
Well, the game is you are acomic book publisher, you're a
publishing company and you haveto go through the I guess we'll
call it.
It's your job as the publisherto find the writer.
You need an artist that is goodin the genre that you, that
your writer is and you have likesuperhero comics.
(32:51):
You can do romance novels, youcan do true crime, you can do
science fiction, you can dohorror and you want to try to
match your writers and yourartists together for boy for
points.
Right, if they match, you getbetter points, you get more fans
, if you want to call it, andthat's what it is.
(33:11):
Now you do have the ability tohave a writer that is good at
romance novels and put them in ahorror genre and mix and match,
but you're not going to get asmany points because thematically
it's probably not going to bethat good.
What you also have to do is youhave to build some hype.
You can build some hype.
Get out on the street, get onthose news at those newsstands
(33:34):
and just hey gang Before thesocial media right.
Yep, you know, get that guy outon the street wearing the
sandwich board.
Check out in about a week.
In about a week you're going tosee the newest.
Whatever, I'm not even going todo it, you're going to see the
newest episode or the newestissue of blah blah comics and
(33:54):
it's going to be great.
You know, get that hype upthere.
You can continue to build hypewhen, until you actually publish
it.
Once you publish that, nowyou've got a fan level and that
is basically your points.
The longer the comic is outthere, it's going to do.
The fans are going to basicallygo down every round.
The game ends after five roundsand the person with the most
(34:15):
points wins.
The comic collector in mereally enjoyed this game and you
would.
You think about it?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I love worker placement and this is an
excellent, excellent workerplacement game.
I mean, if that's your jam,you'll love this game because
there are so many areas to go to.
Like Chris was saying, you cango, you know, you can go get the
writers, you can get theartists.
(34:45):
You get money, you can go andget your royalties.
There's another spot to have itpublished.
So there is so many things.
So that's an excellent workerplacement game.
You build your tableau ofcomics.
It's a very good game.
I really I don't have anythingto add to it other than it is
really good game.
I love worker placement and Ithink it's a excellent,
(35:07):
excellent example of it.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, definitely need to get more plays in of the
game to make a final judgmentcall on it, but right now it was
a very pleasant experience andI really enjoyed it.
The game may be a little bitsamey every time you play it,
but I'm not too sure We'll have.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah, I, you know, I think there's some variability
there because during the roundsyou have different goals but
there are different genres thatyou flip over and you know it
depends on what cards come upwith us.
That last round I really needed.
(35:48):
I was trying to do a superherocomic.
The writers were not worth verymuch, they were worth like one
point, and on the city where youcan get your fans, the only fan
was worth six points and therewas no way my comic was going to
be worth six points.
It was only going to be worthfour at the most.
So my last comic kind of wasn'tas great and it bond, which I'm
(36:14):
sure there's comics that bombright, plenty, plenty.
So that was my last comic tonot do as well as my other ones.
Okay, so it's one that was goodand I think you won that game.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yes, it was, I won that game.
You know, surprisingly, we gotwe got quite a few plays and of
some games since the lastepisode, which is good.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Well, a game that we played several times is a new
game from New Kingdom Gaming andit is called New Kingdom
Gardeners and this is a veryinteresting game.
It is a very quick playing game.
You can extend it a little bit,but everybody has a player
board.
You have a gardener and you'retrying to.
(37:00):
You're trying to complete andhave the best garden.
So when the master gardenercomes back and he's going to
judge your workers and what youhave going on here, it's not a
very high scoring.
So it's not like one of thegames where you're going to end
up with like a hundred points.
That's not the type of.
At first, you know, I was kindof disappointed because I'm
really used to these zeros.
(37:21):
I have these huge.
You know you really can scoresome points and it's not going
to be that way.
But it is so interesting becauseyou plant, you plant plant
cards.
There are some miracle cardsand then they're vines and each
card is named that one.
(37:42):
We hit like wrath and I thinkthere's vanity and stuff like
that.
So as you lay down your plantsthey're going to vine.
So they're going to be kind ofpushed off your board and
they're going to circle aroundto the next person's board.
So if you have a thorn it'sgoing to get pushed to the next
(38:03):
person's thorn and kind ofaround the table.
So that is a very interestingmechanic and you want to end up
at the end of the game.
You want to have a garden infront of you instead of a bunch
of thorns, because the thornsare going to be minus three
points and, like I said, it'snot a huge scoring game.
So minus three points are goingto make a very big deal.
So that's a very interestingaspect.
(38:28):
The deck is also veryinteresting because the last 10
cards of the deck your mastergardener is going to be shuffled
in there, so you don't knowwhen the game is going to end,
because once you pull the mastergardener card, the game ends.
So that you know.
(38:51):
I think we had one game wherethe Master Gardener came up
really quickly, very quickly,and suddenly we're like uh-oh,
and I'm left with a really,really bad garden.
You know, I was surprised Ididn't get negative points for
that one, yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
I don't know if could you get negative points in that
game.
I think you could.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I think it makes sense, you could right you could
, because you have the thorns,yeah, and for some reason you
don't have enough workers builtup, because, as you have
different type of workers,there's the manager and an
assistant, so there's differentworkers and the workers are
worth points.
They're usually worth one point.
If you can stack them and havelike a team of assistants, then
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you get obviously more pointsand get a bonus.
But for some reason, if youhaven't built up a team, if you
have three or four thornssitting there, for some reason,
I mean you'd be minus nine, nice12 points.
You would really be hurting,yeah, you would be hurting.
So, like theoretically, youcould end up with negative
(39:59):
points.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yeah, I quite enjoyed that game.
It's like Andrew said, it's aquick play, it's just there is a
lot of interaction in the game.
Yes, it can be.
It can be.
You can either be we'll call it, take thatty or you can also be
helpful.
Yeah, and you get rewarded forbeing helpful on the other
(40:24):
persons, so you could prune somethorns off of another player's
board instead of doing it off ofyour board, and you would get
more rewards, more points for it.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yes, you don't have to worry about the thorn in my
car.
But then you get rewarded.
You get the three points yes,Instead of yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
At the end of the game, instead of getting yeah,
you take that thorn, you put itoff to your side and you get
three points for doing that.
So very interesting, veryinteresting gameplay.
I quite enjoy the game.
I do believe I would be willingI actually I would like to do a
deep dive into this game, intoa later episode.
(41:08):
That's how much I enjoy thisgame.
What do you say?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
That would be.
I think that's a great idea andit was kind of interesting.
I was in a Facebook group and Ijust heard somebody else
talking about it and thedesigner, jack Dunbar's in there
and I was able just to click alink and buy it directly from
the publisher and it came veryquickly.
I wasn't expecting it to comethat quick, but yeah, I would
(41:36):
like to do an actual review ofit where we talk a little bit
more about all the mechanics andall the things that go on in it
.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Yeah, call it a deep dive.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Deep dive.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Deep dive.
I want to get away from theword review.
Not that I think they're bad, Ijust don't think we do it well.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
But absolutely we should do that, and some of the
best games out there are thoselittle independent games that
not many people know of, so I'dlike to get that game out there
to more people's ears.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
That's a great idea.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
So all right.
All right and lastly, Ooh, Idon't even know if I want to
talk about this one.
This was so frustrating.
Angie, what was the last game?
Speaker 2 (42:23):
It was a great Western Trail.
We started it pretty late atnight and it was your suggestion
, and we couldn't even getthrough the game.
It was so late at night.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
It got to a point.
First of all, we haven't playedthat game in a very long time.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
And I mean that game was a best of my month actually,
like it was literally one ofour top video topics.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yeah, I mean it's a good game.
It's a great game, but it's notdifficult.
But once you get out of it fora while, those little rules are.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
I was so frustrated it was screwed up the meat
market.
Yeah, oh, it was so frustratingto me and what made it worse is
like I'm like we're going aroundand we're going, and then we
sell our cattle and then youknow you go around again if
you've played the game beforeand I think we're I was on my
(43:21):
second time around and Angiegoes you're doing something
wrong.
I'm like what do you mean?
I'm doing something wrong.
You used to get so many pointsevery time you went to sell your
cattle.
What are you doing wrong?
What are you doing differently?
I'm like I don't know.
And then you started like andthen you got into my head and I
(43:45):
was doing wrong.
What was I doing differently, ohmy goodness.
And then we got to a pointwhere it was so late I'm like
falling asleep at the table.
We had to get up early and Iwas like, let's just, I'm done,
(44:06):
I'm done.
We cannot finish this game.
Let's finish it tomorrow.
We'll leave it set up and wenever ended up finishing it
anyway.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
But oh wow, talk about can't start that one at
nine o'clock at night and Ithink it was that late.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
It might have been that we started it so late, and
trying to refresh ourselves withthe rules and everything.
And I wait, not a bad game.
I quite enjoy the game.
I quite enjoy the game.
But talk about a game that,when you stop playing, when you,
(44:41):
I don't know, I was almost likeplaying it again for the first
time for me.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah, right.
Well, there's the, and I hadyou had.
What did I call you last time?
You were like a cattle baron,it's a cattle baron and there is
a not a mechanism but you can.
Essentially, when you are on thespace that you can buy cattle,
you can give up.
(45:06):
Essentially, you can give upbuying cattle to like, refill or
add cattle to the market.
And we weren't doing that or Icould have been doing that,
because I was going past it andnot buying anything and I could
have been doing that and Ididn't.
So we were like running down toone cow.
I was like how is thishappening?
(45:27):
Because we started out with alot of I can't remember what
kind of cows they were.
We started out with a lot ofthem and it was just, and it was
a little bit more of expensiveone, I don't know.
Then we just kind of like andyou need a variety of cows.
So if you're buying a wholebunch of the same cow, then it
doesn't help you at the end whenyou get to selling them.
(45:48):
So I think that was a big thing, that was really a big thing
and it was probably.
It was my mistake I'm not goingto say only my mistake, but I
am the one with the rulebook andit is what would help you win
last time.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Yeah, whatever is what it is, we're listening to a
podcast hosted by two peoplewho just had that happen and
admitted to you guys that we'vebeen playing silver and gold
wrong for years.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
How are we playing it around again?
Speaker 3 (46:29):
We weren't adding in the coins or points.
We were doing it.
We weren't doing the individual.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
We were waiting.
Yeah, we were doing the coinsat the end of the round.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
So I love you all.
I love all you listeners.
However, next time you got agame in your hand and Chris is
talking highly of that game, hemight not have been playing it
right.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
We were playing resurgence correctly.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Oh, that's funny, All right.
Oh yes, talk about humbling.
You know that is humbling.
Getting an email from somebody.
I did make a joke.
Hey, if you bought a game on myrecommendation, I would send
you a sticker.
I got an email from somebody.
I got an email from Kent andman, talk about humbling.
So stickers are in the mail.
(47:17):
By the time this podcast comesout, you'll probably have gotten
them already.
So that's just great.
I can't get over that.
That's all.
So it's all.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
I wanted to say it's time for another chasing
meeple's top five list.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
These are the top five Phil Walker Harding games
in our opinion.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
in our opinion Do you think we're going to have
crossover?
Speaker 3 (48:13):
I think we might have crossover.
I think I think we're going tohave a cross.
I think we will have crossover.
I 100 percent think we willhave crossover.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
How many do you think ?
Speaker 3 (48:25):
I think we'll have two, so, but my, I just want to
say this again it's our opinion.
Okay, these are our favoritetop five Phil Walker Harding
games.
They don't have to be yourlisteners, they don't have to be
your top five, you don't evenhave to like any of them, but
(48:46):
this is what we like.
So, angie, can I start?
Speaker 2 (48:49):
You can start off.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
All right.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Number five.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
My number five, phil Walker, harding game.
Angie, I bet you're not evengoing to guess it.
We will not guess it.
My flanted.
No, I told you you wouldn't getit.
My number five Phil WalkerHarding game is one game, angie,
that allows me to relive thedays of friendship bracelets,
(49:24):
s'mores, wringing out myswimsuit after a long day of
swimming, and that is summercamp.
Summer camp is a competitivedeck building game where you
basically race to earn meritbadges and get the most
(49:45):
experiences, which we'll callthose experiences, but they're
actually points.
Each player has their own deckof cards and it's a deck builder
and it's just fun.
It is fun.
I really it was a game.
When did this game came out?
(50:06):
It came out in 2022?
2021.
, 2021.
And I think we got it at Target.
I think was it a Targetexclusive?
I think it was just.
I just knew that it was atTarget and for such a light,
simple, easy game, I ratherenjoy it.
(50:26):
So that's it.
That's my number five.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Well, you know what your number five is?
A pretty darn good game,because it is also my number
five.
Wow, it is.
It is.
So it is neat because they youdo compete in seven different
activities.
You have adventure, you havearts and crafts, there's some
cooking, there's some games,there's friendships in your
(50:54):
outdoor and your water sports.
And I think the reallyinteresting thing about this
game is that you don't play allof those at once.
There's what three or four, andeach of these activities have
different decks so you canrotate them in the games.
So you can be playing withadventure, cooking, water sports
(51:16):
in one game and the next timeyou play you can be doing arts
and crafts and games.
So it's so replayable.
But it is, I think, a goodintroduction to deck building
and I quite enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
All right, hey, that is our first.
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
First crossover Wow, I did not think that was going
to happen.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
Right away, even.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
I know.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
Very cool Number four .
Speaker 2 (51:48):
My number four is kind of for me.
Anyway, it was an obscure gamethat I had never heard about
until I walked into an old,dusty game store.
It is the 2015 game.
It was wedged.
I was in this game store.
(52:08):
It's dark, it's dingy andtechnically, this game store had
games from an older game storethat was sold.
They had gone out of business.
They sold their games to thisone.
So I knew all these games.
I knew the racks and I'msearching through the racks and
here's a lot of Arkham Horror,mentions of mansions, of madness
(52:30):
and shove between the two.
I'm looking at this box, thisdusty box, and it says Phil
Walker Harding.
I'm like what?
Pull it out, it is cacao.
And then it cacao is a tilelaying game in which players
take turns laying down thesquare tiles and if you lay them
(52:50):
next to each other, you canactivate the tiles.
You can put your little meepleon there, activate it.
You can get your cacao beans.
You could sell them at market.
You can put them on your playerboard.
The more beans, the more pointsyou get and the better you do.
(53:11):
It's a pretty simple game.
It's a pretty simple game Tilelaying not something that's
unique for Phil, but it's reallyenjoyable.
I really like this game.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
All right, my number four.
And you wanted to give me someof that cacao that you've been
harvesting.
Let me mix it on up in a niceyummy, yummy batter.
Preheat my oven to 455 degreesand make myself some gingerbread
, because my number four isgingerbread house Right.
(53:46):
Once upon a time, a witch livedalone in her house in the depths
of the forest, and you knowwhat her hobby was Making some
of them, gingerbread cookies.
In a matter of fact, angie,that witch loved gingerbread so
much that she made her entirehouse out of that gingerbread.
Unfortunately, she wasn't theonly person who loved
(54:08):
gingerbread, so a bunch of rudefairy tale characters passed by
and they start eating theirwalls and they start eating her
windows and they start eatingher doors.
And one day that witch decidedyou know what?
I've had enough of all thesepeople helping themselves and
paying attention to which typesof gingerbread those greedy
(54:28):
intruders like the most.
She figured out a way to getrid of them all, and you know
how she did that?
Well, I'll tell you, and you,you can figure it out how she
did it yourself by playing thegame.
So in that game, you take athree by three grid and you
cover symbols that showed fourdifferent types of gingerbreads
(54:51):
and each one of those some ofthem also have special actions
on them and the tiles may alsobe placed on existing tiles and
basically you're building a 3Dstructure in front of you.
If you cover two of the samesymbols, you get a bonus
gingerbread or action andvictory points are awarded for
(55:13):
building the tallest structure.
You also, basically, youcomplete orders.
So basically you'll have a cardthat says this character likes
this type of gingerbread andbasically you get.
You get the resources and youcan purchase those people, and
(55:34):
you get them, you get them andin the end, the player with the
most victory points wins.
And that is my number fourgingerbread house.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Number three.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
My number three is gingerbread house, the 2018 game
about, yes, making agingerbread house.
You said everything really well.
The only thing I would add isthat your fairytale creatures
some of them are good ones andsome of them are villains, and
(56:18):
so when you have your scoringobjectives, you may have some
that would.
You would like more villains oryou would not like villains.
So sometimes there's differentpoints based on are you getting
which fairytale creatures youare getting?
But other than that, you reallyyou nailed it.
You, you frosted the roof ofthe gingerbread house.
(56:41):
I know the other comment isthere cacao and gingerbread?
Speaker 3 (56:46):
You can make chocolate gingerbread cookies,
why not?
Speaker 2 (56:50):
Okay, you know, if somebody out there makes
chocolate gingerbread.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
Send Angie the recipe because I would love to try it.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
All right, all right, all right.
So what is your number three.
Speaker 3 (57:09):
So a chocolate gingerbread cookie is probably a
treasure.
It is probably a treasure thatmany people would say is worth
silver, maybe, maybe even gold,and that makes my number three
silver and gold.
So in this game everybody getstreasure maps and maybe where X
(57:37):
marks the spot is where you'regoing to find that chocolate
gingerbread cookie.
And how are you going to knowif you're going to find that?
You're going to find out bytaking an expedition card.
There's a deck and in that deckit's a deck with a question
mark on it.
That's your expedition carddeck.
You are going to flip thatexpedition card over and when
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that card is revealed there'sgoing to be a polyamino shape on
there.
You're going to have a dryerase marker and you are going
to mark off that symbol on thesymbol that is on the card, on
your map, that shape.
If you cannot do that, you mustat least put one X on there,
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mark off one square on yourtreasure map.
You're going to continue tomark your treasure maps until
seven out of the eightexpedition cards are revealed.
Once that happens, there'sgoing to be.
That's going to be the end ofthe route.
After a total of four rounds,each player calculates your
victory points and the game ends.
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So let's talk about.
It's pretty simple.
I don't want to, I don't wantto drag this out any longer than
I than I have to, but you,basically, you flip a card, you
make the shape on your treasuremap.
Once you fill up your treasuremap, you now completed that map
and you draw another treasuremap.
So it's a pretty simple game.
(59:06):
You're marking off squares,you're flipping cards, and that
is my number three Angie, silverand Gold.
Speaker 1 (59:16):
Number two.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
My number two, chris, is a 2021 game, which is a nice
little interesting game that Ihappen to find in a little game
store, little toy shop in thebasement of where I work and
that is super mega lucky box.
This is a game that I think Isaw at Foster the Meeple and I
(59:45):
thought it was kind of silly andI'm thinking the name is kind
of silly.
It was really hokey looking boxand I picked it up and I
thought, oh, all right, I alwayslike to give her some business
every once in a while.
So I bought the game and, holymoly, do I like this flipping
right game.
(01:00:06):
Your cards they're just thesetiny little three by three grids
and they have random numbers ineach of the little squares and
it's almost like playingtic-tac-toe in a way, because
they are numbered one throughnine and during each round
you're going to flip cards whichare also numbered one through
nine and, very simply, you'regoing to cross that number off
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on your card.
When you complete a roll orcolumn you're going to get a
bonus and any card that you fillup you're going to set aside
and during the end of the roundyou score up your card any
bonuses that you can add up onthat card.
Your game lasts for four roundsand then after the fourth round
(01:00:51):
, you total up the rounds onyour.
And the interesting thing here,chris, is that as your rounds
progress, your score, your cards, are worth less and less.
So you want to try to fill upthe more cards you can early on.
But this is a fast-paced game,small footprint.
It is one of my favorite gamesto solo, thank you.
(01:01:14):
It is also one of the gamesthat I have actually gotten game
to play in kind of a tricky way, because I told them we were
doing math and I slipped himthat game in.
So I don't tell him we're goingto play a game to do math, I
tell him we're going to do mathand then play a game.
That's one of my ways to gethim to play a game with me.
So my number two is Super MegaLucky Box.
Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
My number two makes you super, mega lucky, because
that is also my number two.
You, you did a really good jobexplaining the game.
It's bingo, but it is the bestversion of bingo you, me and all
of our listeners will ever play.
So if you have not had a chanceto play this game, what are you
(01:02:03):
waiting?
Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
for Number one.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
And my number one.
You may never guess what it is,chris.
It is a small box game that Ifound on a discount table in
Appleton, wisconsin, at theGnome Games is something that I
saw Mr Garcia play from the DiceTower is one of my favorite
reviewers and he kept talking upthis game.
(01:02:31):
It is silver and gold.
Yes, it was silver and gold.
You described that game so well.
I don't need to say much moreabout it other than it is a take
with you anywhere game.
Take with you anywhere.
Love this game.
It is my number one.
Chris did a great job ofexplaining it, so why don't you
(01:02:52):
go ahead, chris, and tell uswhat your number one is?
Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
I will, angie.
So we've already.
We've already been to summercamp.
We've already had a deliciousgingerbread cookie.
We got lucky filling out ourtreasure maps and found a super,
mega lucky box full ofchocolate gingerbread cookies.
(01:03:22):
And now you know what.
It's time for us to grow somepotatoes, grow some corn and
some cocoa on the slopes ofmountains, because, if that's
what you love, luckily this gameis going to just scratch that
(01:03:42):
for you.
What game am I talking about?
I'm talking about Lama Land.
In Lama Land, you play the roleof a Lama farmer Not really,
you play the role of a farmerwho is growing said resources
that I mentioned before potatoes, corn and cocoa and you're
getting some help from some Lamafriends of yours.
(01:04:04):
It's another one of those threedimensional grid games that
Phil Walker Harding does verywell.
He's very good at that spatialpuzzle.
So you want to go up in heightand basically, as you cover crop
, cover shapes, you get the cropunderneath it.
You use those crops to obtainLama cards.
(01:04:26):
Lama cards give you victorypoints, but they also allow you
to place a Lama on your farm andthe game plays about 45 minutes
and you're going to have animpressive crop growing area in
front of you and you're going tohave a bunch of little llamas
all over the place, all over theplace being all cuddly and cute
(01:04:48):
and Lama like.
So that is my number one, lamaland.
A lot of people say Lama landis a mixture of gingerbread,
house and Bear in park.
Bear in park.
Take the best of gingerbreadhouse, take the best of Bear in
park, smush it up together andyou've got Lama land.
(01:05:12):
Do you need to play Lama land?
If you played those two, Idon't know.
I enjoy playing gingerbreadhouse and I enjoy playing Lama
land.
Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
We've never played Bear in park.
Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
We've never played Bear in park.
Some people might say eh, eh,but I really enjoy the game.
So that's it, Number one.
Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
The interesting thing about Lama land, the thing that
I really like about it, are theobjective cards.
You choose which objectivesyou're going to go for and
there's several at the beginningof the game that are laid out
and you take turns, placing,like a little worker, on which
objective you want and at whatlevel, because there are
(01:05:56):
different scoring levels foreach objective card.
If you get to one first, youget the highest level off of
that one, or you're going to getthe most points for completing
that level or for completingthat objective.
So I think that's veryinteresting and I really enjoy
that part of the game.
Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Me too.
That's my number one, angie.
I'm surprised I'm.
I guess I'm not, I shouldn't besurprised, but there's there's
two things I'm surprised aboutyour list One explorers isn't
even on it.
I thought you really enjoyedthat game.
I thought it would have been atop five game for you.
I really do.
Where would, where would haveexplorers been for you on your
list?
Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Oh, um, let me um.
Explorers would probably havebeen Seven seven okay.
Seven, maybe I could give you.
Yeah, six would probably beenllama land.
I could give you which one.
I should ask you which one isyour worst.
(01:06:57):
I could tell that easily.
That's Neovill.
Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
That's your, that's your worst.
Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
That is my worst, walker.
Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Yeah, yeah, out of the ones that we own, neovill is
is probably not my well, Idon't know it's.
It would probably be sushi goas my worst, and it might.
Somebody might just be goingout there after hearing that,
but for me that it would besushi go.
(01:07:26):
Then, Neovill, my number sixwould probably be planted.
Oh, whoa, I, I miss that one,I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, my number six wouldbe spell book, and then, yeah,
Spell book is the newest one.
My number six would be spellbook and then planted, and then
monolith, and then Neovill isgone from there, but yes for
(01:07:51):
sure.
Well, meeple chasers, that's it.
Thank you for sticking around.
We really appreciate it.
2024, new year.
I did a fantastic job getting abig zero on a quiz One, but
high hopes for this for the restof this year.
Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
That's here you go.
It can only go up from here.
Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
But seriously, I want to thank you guys for listening
.
Your support means the world tous.
Angie and I do this because,while we love, we love the hobby
, we love sharing the hobby withothers.
We do put a lot of work, timeand effort into this podcast and
we hope that you guys enjoyevery minute of it.
One thing that really helps usis, if you guys like, subscribe,
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So share, like, subscribe allthat stuff, everything that we
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So I would like to say we arealso listener supported as well.
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Get the word of mouth out there.
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But ultimately we're just happyyou're here, everybody.
Thank you so much for listening.
(01:09:43):
Angie, you got anything youwant to say.
Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Keep chasing those Meeples.
Woo.
The show is over.
We've had our fun, but waitbefore you go.
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We gain the miles and insightsto chase the Meeple's.
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It's time for another episode of the wildly
inconsistent but still wildlypopular Chasing Meeples.
On today's show, chris andAngie discuss their top five
Bill Walker Harding games, andChris is ready to start 2024
(00:27):
with another Max Points quiz.
Until it happen, stay tuned tofind out the laughs, the banter.
It all starts now.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Hello, hello everybody.
This is a Chasing Meeplespodcast, and today I am your
host, but sitting with me is mylovely co-host.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Well, hello, hello, I'm Chris.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And I bet you're wondering what I'm doing here
talking.
Well, don't fear everybody anddon't turn off the dial, isn't
it a dial button?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Turn off the dial.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Don't hit that pause button, because Chris is here.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
For a second there.
I thought we were like on AMradio or something.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, I am that old, I am that old.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Why am I not allowed to be in the big chair?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
You're not allowed to be in the big chair is the same
reason why we did not attendthe Midwinter Gaming Convention,
and that is we have had a roundrobin of seasonal flu go around
the house.
It hit me a little bit, Ididn't have it severe, but then
it went into our son and he gotit pretty bad right around when
(01:48):
we were going to go formidwinter and he had the high
fever and so we chose not to goand I was a little disappointed
because we had been planning itsince last summer.
But family takes priority andwe did not go.
Our weather was also horriblethat week and then you were
(02:08):
afflicted with it as well.
And the golden voice and I know, I know, and everybody should
flood our comments and our emailand let everybody know, let
Chris know, that even though hedoesn't have the golden voice
this week, that you still lovehim anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Oh, thanks, Angie.
Well, here's the thing.
It's actually better today thanit was two days ago.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, where you sounded like the neighbor's dog.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well, yes, I sounded like the neighbor's dog.
I was singing.
I sounded like Cookie Monster,but neighbor's dog.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
That's like a shredder yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
And I was singing and my vocal issues and 104 fevers
and all that fun stuff which bythe way really sucks everybody.
Let's absolutely talk aboutwhat we wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
We were going to do.
We were going to record thispodcast in Milwaukee while we
were at the midwinter convention.
It was going to be.
We had some time set aside.
There was a room set aside forus, so we were pretty excited
about it.
I thought there was somethingthat I was also going to do live
on Instagram and we were goingto have something a little bit
(03:24):
special.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, but there is there's always.
Next year there's going to beplenty of other conventions.
Unfortunately, this one didn'thappen.
It seemed like it was a goodtime.
I did get a chance to see someof the pictures that people were
posting online, but we were notthe only ones that were
affected by the weather.
Obviously, we had this bigstorm come through, took out,
(03:48):
laid down a lot of snow, a lotof snow in a short period of
time, and the convention I guessthey were on emergency power.
Yeah.
So imagine that that might havebeen interesting if we were
there.
(04:08):
That would have been reallycool.
I mean, if so?
Primarily it's a role playinggame convention, but there is a
nice board game presence thereas well.
Imagine the ambiance If you area dungeon master and all of a
sudden the power goes out andnow you're working on emergency
power.
I think that just adds anelement of an element of
(04:32):
storytelling to your game.
Yes, so I'm picturing, you know, like power goes out, those
lights come on in the corners ofthe room and everybody's oh,
what's going on.
But it was probably, wasn'tthat?
It was probably laughing anddancing and singing and gaming.
(04:53):
So there's going to be plentyof other conventions.
Angie, I know we plan on doingsomething special, but we will
get there someday.
There is one convention that Iam looking forward to not
missing again for like thesecond year, and that is strong
tower convention.
(05:13):
That's another convention thatis happening in that happens in
Milwaukee, wisconsin, as far asin the Manitowoc area we have
the Fire and Ice convention.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Fire and Ice is going on next month.
Then there's PhoenixCon thissummer.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So, so there are a couple.
There were a couple going on.
We could probably do the samething at PhoenixCon that we did
last year.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Just grab a couch in the lobby Just grab a couch.
Start recording.
As much as we would like tosomeday get to one of the bigger
cons, right now it is just notin the cards for us financially.
And just family wise right.
Yeah, we have commitments thatwe can't just pick up and pick
(05:58):
up and go and say here it alsoyeah, that is an experience that
I would just love to bring ourson to.
I would love to be able tobring our son to GenCon.
I'd love to be able to bringhim to I don't know the Dice
Tower cruise right.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
However, let's think of the big ones first.
Let's just throw them intocrowded.
Go, big right Go big, stick hisheadphones on them and but I
think it would be a coolexperience for him.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
However, here's the problem that Angie and I have
Our son doesn't want to haveanything to do with.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
We're walking around with his switch the whole time.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
He doesn't want to have anything to do with board
games.
So why bring him into somethinglike that that we know he's not
going to like?
And yeah, he could be on hisswitch the whole time.
But how much fun would that befor him?
I don't think it would be funfor him at all.
So that's our dilemma how do weget a child who does not want
(06:58):
to have anything to do withboard games?
We thought there was a littlebit of ray of hope.
Angie used it a little, usedboard games for learning
sometimes and he played it.
We have gotten him some coolgames at his level.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And he still doesn't want to touch it.
He will not touch a game.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
He does not have the attention span we can get
through a round of something.
When I got through and when Igot through Super Mega Lucky Box
with him, we got through threequarters of the game, three
rounds.
(07:39):
And that was pretty good.
That was pretty good, so that'sthe longest.
So we did play Carcazon one dayand we managed to get pretty
well through Carcazon.
But like a lot of other ones,you get through, or he'll
purposely go to sleep.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
He went.
That is our son's.
I don't if you want to call ita defense mechanism, maybe right
, he can fall asleep like that.
He doesn't want to do it, he'sout like a light.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
He played Quirkle.
And what does he do?
He sits on the sofa, lays backand closes his eyes.
I'm here trying to put togethershapes.
Go, oh, look it, I've got allpurple.
Look up, he's snoozing Right.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
But I don't know he can play.
He can play a board game if itis on his Nintendo switch.
He'll play games a roll and moveMario Party, whatever it is
right.
Once you get out of thatdigital space and into that
analog space, he just doesn'twant to have anything to do with
it.
So I guess here's.
Here's the thing, meebleChasers.
(08:43):
If anybody has tips or tricksfor Angie and I, please send us
an email at chasingmeeplecomit's I, I.
There's got to be other parentsout there of special needs
children who might be strugglingwith the same thing.
(09:04):
We don't want to force theminto our hobby, but it would be
awesome to be able to sit downand play a game with our son.
So that's that.
We got a little bit deep for asecond there.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Angie, let's let's we are.
We're not having fun, we'regetting too serious here.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
We may as well just be like.
Well, it goes back to youthinking we're on AM radio, here
we go, we're getting this like.
I'm just going to start talkingin my NPR voice.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That's okay.
We like NPR voice, no, but weare getting serious.
And one thing is here, chris,we have not done this for a long
time, and I was thinking.
Last night we were recording asegment for the don't be bored
YouTube channel.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yes, table is posted by Oliver East.
Oliver East.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Oliver East.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Oliver East.
I may have been saying his namewrong for six months.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Oh my God, angie, I can't.
I, I wasn't even going to gothere.
Okay, now the now theneighbor's dog is coming out in
my voice.
I wasn't even going to go there, Angie, I.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I don't know why I've been doing that for so long and
I'm so embarrassed and I don'tknow how it first occurred to me
.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Oh, I, I know exactly how that went down.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Well, you were, yeah, you were um loading the video
or downloading the video.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
No, no, I was, I was uploading.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I'm still on analog.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It's that whole you're a record.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
You're spinning the record.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I was, yes, I was Uploading, Spitting the record
and yeah, anyway, I was puttingthe tape, cassette tape, into
the envelope and I was mailingit to Oliver Geez, angie Meeple,
jazers, it was.
It was awesome.
So I'm uploading this video.
(11:01):
I have his drop box on thelaptop screen and his name is
right on the top of it.
Angie says wait a minute.
The look on her face.
It finally registered.
Wait a minute.
(11:22):
Why does it say East?
What does it say East?
Like cause?
That's his name.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
No, his last name's Reed.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
So Angie has been calling him Oliver Reed.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I have been promoting somebody named Oliver Reed I
don't know who that is.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I do believe that you even got me into the Oliver
Reed thing for a while.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I know I've said it on this, I've said it on her
podcast, I've said it.
I am.
I've written it.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
It's just amazing.
It was the coolest thing.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I had today.
I had to go edit my latestInstagram post because I had
Oliver Reed on there.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Oh, that's hilarious.
I was just.
I was just Ollie, I was just.
If you do listen, to ourpodcast.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I am so sorry.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I was waiting for you to literally just be like guys,
just so you know.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
And you know what?
I thought his Instagram namewas so weird.
I couldn't figure out where hehad East and I'm like I don't
know.
I don't know why that's hisInstagram name.
Yeah, maybe you know.
I don't know.
He lives on that side of townor something.
I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Oliver Reed, who lives on the East side, that is.
That is hilarious, angie.
But speaking of, if you have achance, go check out Ollie's
channel He'll be bored onYouTube, where we take part in
two videos a monthly videos thathe does, tabletop tea time and
(12:56):
the game of our best of themonth.
We also were lucky enough to beincluded in the best of the
year video.
It's just awesome.
The people that he gets on hischannel are great and it's worth
your time, so you should checkit out.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It is quiz time.
Are you ready, Chris?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I am always ready, angie always.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
All right.
The new year, oh this is thefirst quiz of the year.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
First, quiz of the new year.
I am riding high, whoa Ridinghigh.
I finally achieved Max pointsduring our Christmas
extravaganza episode.
I am, I'm up here, angie, I amup here, and this quiz is going
to be, I said, a new standard.
(14:05):
There will be nothing but Maxpoints quizzes going forward for
the rest of the year.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You know what I just thought of something.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Did you, because I did too, you first.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Okay, me first, because we had one of our
listeners, ken, sent us an emailand he did purchase a game that
you recommended and that wassomething that we had been
joking about.
Maybe I can have Ken come upwith a quiz question or a theme
(14:37):
or something like that Justoccur to me.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Well, that's great.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Ken, if you're listening quiz questions, email
them.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I love that idea.
Angie Meeplechasers chasingmeeples at yahoocom.
Send us your ideas for a quiz,Either a full quiz or quiz ideas
, quiz questions, a theme Putquiz in the subject line and
(15:06):
we'll know exactly what it's allabout.
Angie, that is awesome idea.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Thank you.
Every once in a while ithappens.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I'm not even going to go there Now.
Here's now.
What I was going to say is notanywhere as cool as what you
just came up with.
So my all I was going to say isthis year is going to be the
year of Chris.
It's going to be the year ofChris, there's going to be Max
points quizzes.
Everyone, everyone.
(15:34):
You're going to need theMeeplechasers to give you
quizzes.
Oh, that is how confident I amgoing into 2024.
So the only thing that you knowwhat my mind goes to is Angie
holding a football like what'sher name, lucy and Chris running
at it really, really quick,getting ready to kick that
(15:57):
football.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And Charlie Brown goes flying.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, but that ain't happening.
That will not be happening.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
No more cheering for you mentally, though.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
No, no, I want cutthroat, angie, we are.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
We are back to competitors.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
What is?
Yeah, I want, I want cutthroatLucy, peanut, angie, I don't
know how to play Lucy peanut.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Okay, I'm sure she's got.
Ooh, I'm making notes.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Lucy's last name.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Oh, come on Come on.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Try not to look at what you're writing right in
front of.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Oh, you can't.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I can't see.
No, I trust me, I wear.
I wear bifogels.
However, I can see that.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
All right, let's get on with it.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
This is this one.
This one is a good one.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
All right, I am so ready.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
All right, and this one is called quiz snow, Snow,
so you can imagine what thistheme is here.
So number one on BGG, whichgame with the word snow in the
title is not a real game?
(17:20):
I know you love these.
A iron blood, snow and mud.
B snow tails, T-A-I-L-S.
C a few acres of snow.
D snow angels versus snowmen.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Right out of the gate .
You know the only.
The only other kind of questionthat you know I love more than
this is what is that game rated?
That's going to be number two.
I bet you that's going to benumber two out of the three that
are actually games.
What is the ranking?
And if that's what it is, I'mout.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
No, about when I.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
The game that is not real Is the one where you had to
spell it.
The word tales, because it'seither that or acres of snow.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You're wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Whatever Is it the snow, whatever?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It is Okay, I'm going to say iron, blood, snow and
mud.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yes, no, you don't have to read them to me.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Okay, well, maybe I shouldn't tell you the right
answer and let everybody elsecome.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Now, that's just silly.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Okay, yes, okay, my good ideas are all over.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah, you lost them.
Okay, you're done with a goodidea for the rest of the podcast
.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Snow angels versus snowmen.
That's, that's not the realgame, not the real game.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Alrighty.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
You never said how many max points is.
How many points is max?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Well, this is a 10 point quiz, plus there is a five
point bonus that maybe you canmake up.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Alrighty.
Next question how many games onBGG have the name winter?
Just the one word, winter.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Oh, another one of my favorite.
How many games have the word?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Just winter Pretzel in it, just the word winter,
winter A, one, two is three, c,five or D, seven.
So we have one, three, five orseven.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
How many games only have the name winter as?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
the title, that's it.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Oh seven.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Sorry, it's five.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
This is whatever, lucy, I'm like keeping track of
my score by just making the zerobigger.
Like I put a slash next to it.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I was so proud of this, okay.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Well, you should be.
You're beating me, lucy.
I'm calling you Lucy.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Maybe we should have a rule that there's no more BGG
questions.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
No, no, no.
Okay, this is it.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Which is not a real game, with winter in the title A
, a winter war, B dead of winter, C winter born or D white
winter.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I confidently say it's winter born.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
It's not a real game.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
No, it's white winter Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Whatever, I would have named a game white winter,
and if I was, I'm thinking whitewinter, white winter, yeah,
white winter.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I know Like a war game.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I'm thinking that's a war game, right.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, no, it's an Angie game.
Well.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
I'm not buying it.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
It's horrible already .
So white winter, remember thatOkay.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I'm at zero points right now.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
You're at zero points you are.
I don't think you've evergotten zero.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Starting off the year right.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Okay, and there was a game that you had recently been
looking at.
Last time we were at Nome Gamesand who publish the game?
The White Castle.
Who publishes the game theWhite Castle?
Yeah, yeah who does RenegadeDevere, pandasaurus or Z-Man?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
That's a good question, Angie.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Think of the box.
What?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
is the box.
I know it's got a white castleon it.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
And a winter scene Bottom corner.
It says it says the name.
That is going to be wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
That's going to be wrong you don't get it right,
they'll never send us games.
Come on, chris, no pressure.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah, first and foremost, nobody sends us games.
Well, we can help, but I thinkit's a two-way.
Before I am delaying theinevitable wrong answer here,
but it is a two-way street.
In order for us to get games,we probably should be asking,
but that's okay.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Not necessarily.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Well, I don't think.
Okay, that's not a conversationfor this, okay, so anyway, it's
Z-Man.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Devere?
No, it is not In my world.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I see, in my brain it's a little blue strip on the
side.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
No, it's got the Z-Man logo on the bottom right
hand corner.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
No, it's got the little blue strip on the bottom,
kind of like it does on it'sDevere, it's Devere, okay, I
believe you.
All right.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Oh, this is so bad, this is so bad.
That's what I get for trashtalking.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Where does Devere's newest game, the White Castle,
fall on?
The hotness has of when I madethis list, Is it 16, 4, 20, or
10?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It was 20 on the hot list when you made that.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
It was 16.
No.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
This is the worst quiz ever, angie.
You've had some pretty bad ones, but I'm going to tell you this
is the worst one.
How about another answer?
Okay, out of all of thosequestions that you've asked me
so far, I didn't even get thebonus questions, I still get
five points.
Out of all the questions you'veasked me, there's only one
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question that I would consider alegitimate question, and that
was the one you just asked meabout the publisher.
That's just it.
All the other ones Not cool.
That's it Not cool.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
But I'm better than the old ones.
These are actual multiplechoice.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
These are good quiz questions.
I feel like I got a chance.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Come on, you have a chance here for five points.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
No way, don't even ask.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
All right.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Just get me this gunk .
Speaker 2 (24:30):
All right, no bonus question.
How about I ask the bonusquestion if somebody can use?
The answer Okay, all right,which is not an endless winter
expansion.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Oh, gosh, if I get this wrong.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Ancestors, cave paintings, rivers and rafts,
hunters and gatherers.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Ancestors, no, it's hunters and gatherers.
Hunters and gatherers is acarcasson.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, okay, all right , five points.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, don't even give me that, just give me another
zero.
I answered it wrong.
What's my score, angie?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Five.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
How about two and a half Five?
How about?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
two and a half.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Two and a half.
Two and a half.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
No, Give me the zero.
Just say the word.
What is my score?
Angie Zero.
Yeah, yeah, I'll take it Allright.
(26:01):
It is time for Gackpan Games.
Angie and Chris play at night.
Angie, I am still reeling fromthat quiz my poor performance in
that quiz.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Oh, you have to stop pouting because it makes me feel
guilty.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
You should feel guilty.
You're going to start making mesound like the neighbor's dog
again.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I was so upset.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I was feeling it.
I can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I think that's what it is.
You go on with these high hopes.
You've always do that.
Even when it comes to some ofthese games, you go into it with
such high hopes.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
High hopes.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It doesn't always pan out.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
High hopes, high hopes.
I guess that's what happenswhen you, you know, whatever, I
don't know, high hopes, I justcame right in.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I should check and see if that's a game on BGG and
what it's ranked.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
What high hopes.
Yeah, okay, you know what Ithink is great?
I think I think it's great thatI got a zero.
I got that out of my system andwe're good to go.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
So, Angie, while you're making your note, looking
about high hopes, I want totalk about one of the games that
we played recently, and thatgame is ex Libris.
So what is what exactly?
What is ex Libris?
I know that that was kind ofone of your games that you've
wanted for quite a long time andwe ran I think you tried it
(27:40):
from a a a.
Was it a lending library?
Yes, we had a game store intown that had a lending library
and then you didn't see itanywhere, except for one time
when we were in another gamestore and they were selling a
used copy of it.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah.
And they were selling it for avery expensive it was very
expensive for a used copy.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, and luckily, luckily, it was just re released
as a second edition and it wasone of your Christmas presents.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It was.
It was an ex Libris.
You play a librarian and youare trying to build a library
and you have six differentscoring conditions.
You have to have a stablelibrary.
You need to have it inchronological order and
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alphabetical order, so each oneof these cars has a number and a
letter.
So now when you are formingyour tableau, which is your
library, you need to, you know,put these all in order.
You have also, there aredifferent topics, subjects, and
some you want to avoid, some youwant to get, there are like a
(29:05):
private goals.
So there's a lot going on inthis game, a lot of factors, a
lot of way to score points.
I like the game.
I really do your ideas.
You have to have the bestlibrary, because the head
librarian is going to comearound and judge.
I enjoy the game.
(29:25):
I know it fell a little flatfor you.
I've never really see you withAP.
This game was kind of workingon your brain.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
It was, but I don't think it was working on my brain
because it was hard.
I think I was just overthinking, like it wasn't even like
analysis, paralysis, oh, what doI do next?
What do I do next?
It was more of less.
I was just overthinking, Ithink, making it harder than it
actually is to play or morecomplex than it was.
(30:00):
I think it might have been theway you explained how to make
your book show.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
It can only be three columns high, but it can be as
wide as you need them.
So you have to start at a pointand then realize, when you're
going down the alphabet, whereyou're going to play some,
because you only have three rows.
So you're kind of trying topinpoint how you're starting
your shelves out.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah, yeah, it was.
It's not a.
It's not a horrible game.
I would like to play it again,just to make sure that it was me
and not the game.
There's a better way to put itright.
I didn't see.
Let's just say by.
(30:50):
You're not wrong when you say,it fell flat for me.
I just remember.
You know you always spoke sohighly of that game.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I enjoy it.
I enjoy it.
I want to play it solo, but Ihear the solo mode is very
difficult, very difficult.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Okay, what is next on the list?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Well, we'll talk about, let's talk about a
Kickstarter that we finally gotto the table and this game is
awesome and that game is Age ofComics.
So that game really resonatedwith me.
In my younger days I was acomic collector.
I do have a collection ofcomics very well taken care of
(31:40):
in the attic and anybody wantsto buy one, reach out to us.
Just kidding Sort of.
But so the comic book collectorin me really really enjoys this
game and it's a golden age.
It takes place in the goldenage of comics.
So what is the golden age ofcomics, everybody?
Well, this is the age where youhad all of the classics like
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Superman, batman, when they werefirst started, when people were
just just it was, the media wasnew, the media was was fresh
and budding and and it was, itwas good, it was good times and
yes.
So anyway, that's the goldenage of comics, right?
What is the game about?
(32:29):
Well, the game is you are acomic book publisher, you're a
publishing company and you haveto go through the I guess we'll
call it.
It's your job as the publisherto find the writer.
You need an artist that is goodin the genre that you, that
your writer is and you have likesuperhero comics.
(32:51):
You can do romance novels, youcan do true crime, you can do
science fiction, you can dohorror and you want to try to
match your writers and yourartists together for boy for
points.
Right, if they match, you getbetter points, you get more fans
, if you want to call it, andthat's what it is.
(33:11):
Now you do have the ability tohave a writer that is good at
romance novels and put them in ahorror genre and mix and match,
but you're not going to get asmany points because thematically
it's probably not going to bethat good.
What you also have to do is youhave to build some hype.
You can build some hype.
Get out on the street, get onthose news at those newsstands
(33:34):
and just hey gang Before thesocial media right.
Yep, you know, get that guy outon the street wearing the
sandwich board.
Check out in about a week.
In about a week you're going tosee the newest.
Whatever, I'm not even going todo it, you're going to see the
newest episode or the newestissue of blah blah comics and
(33:54):
it's going to be great.
You know, get that hype upthere.
You can continue to build hypewhen, until you actually publish
it.
Once you publish that, nowyou've got a fan level and that
is basically your points.
The longer the comic is outthere, it's going to do.
The fans are going to basicallygo down every round.
The game ends after five roundsand the person with the most
(34:15):
points wins.
The comic collector in mereally enjoyed this game and you
would.
You think about it?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I love worker placement and this is an
excellent, excellent workerplacement game.
I mean, if that's your jam,you'll love this game because
there are so many areas to go to.
Like Chris was saying, you cango, you know, you can go get the
writers, you can get theartists.
(34:45):
You get money, you can go andget your royalties.
There's another spot to have itpublished.
So there is so many things.
So that's an excellent workerplacement game.
You build your tableau ofcomics.
It's a very good game.
I really I don't have anythingto add to it other than it is
really good game.
I love worker placement and Ithink it's a excellent,
(35:07):
excellent example of it.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, definitely need to get more plays in of the
game to make a final judgmentcall on it, but right now it was
a very pleasant experience andI really enjoyed it.
The game may be a little bitsamey every time you play it,
but I'm not too sure We'll have.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah, I, you know, I think there's some variability
there because during the roundsyou have different goals but
there are different genres thatyou flip over and you know it
depends on what cards come upwith us.
That last round I really needed.
(35:48):
I was trying to do a superherocomic.
The writers were not worth verymuch, they were worth like one
point, and on the city where youcan get your fans, the only fan
was worth six points and therewas no way my comic was going to
be worth six points.
It was only going to be worthfour at the most.
So my last comic kind of wasn'tas great and it bond, which I'm
(36:14):
sure there's comics that bombright, plenty, plenty.
So that was my last comic tonot do as well as my other ones.
Okay, so it's one that was goodand I think you won that game.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yes, it was, I won that game.
You know, surprisingly, we gotwe got quite a few plays and of
some games since the lastepisode, which is good.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Well, a game that we played several times is a new
game from New Kingdom Gaming andit is called New Kingdom
Gardeners and this is a veryinteresting game.
It is a very quick playing game.
You can extend it a little bit,but everybody has a player
board.
You have a gardener and you'retrying to.
(37:00):
You're trying to complete andhave the best garden.
So when the master gardenercomes back and he's going to
judge your workers and what youhave going on here, it's not a
very high scoring.
So it's not like one of thegames where you're going to end
up with like a hundred points.
That's not the type of.
At first, you know, I was kindof disappointed because I'm
really used to these zeros.
(37:21):
I have these huge.
You know you really can scoresome points and it's not going
to be that way.
But it is so interesting becauseyou plant, you plant plant
cards.
There are some miracle cardsand then they're vines and each
card is named that one.
(37:42):
We hit like wrath and I thinkthere's vanity and stuff like
that.
So as you lay down your plantsthey're going to vine.
So they're going to be kind ofpushed off your board and
they're going to circle aroundto the next person's board.
So if you have a thorn it'sgoing to get pushed to the next
(38:03):
person's thorn and kind ofaround the table.
So that is a very interestingmechanic and you want to end up
at the end of the game.
You want to have a garden infront of you instead of a bunch
of thorns, because the thornsare going to be minus three
points and, like I said, it'snot a huge scoring game.
So minus three points are goingto make a very big deal.
So that's a very interestingaspect.
(38:28):
The deck is also veryinteresting because the last 10
cards of the deck your mastergardener is going to be shuffled
in there, so you don't knowwhen the game is going to end,
because once you pull the mastergardener card, the game ends.
So that you know.
(38:51):
I think we had one game wherethe Master Gardener came up
really quickly, very quickly,and suddenly we're like uh-oh,
and I'm left with a really,really bad garden.
You know, I was surprised Ididn't get negative points for
that one, yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
I don't know if could you get negative points in that
game.
I think you could.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I think it makes sense, you could right you could
, because you have the thorns,yeah, and for some reason you
don't have enough workers builtup, because, as you have
different type of workers,there's the manager and an
assistant, so there's differentworkers and the workers are
worth points.
They're usually worth one point.
If you can stack them and havelike a team of assistants, then
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you get obviously more pointsand get a bonus.
But for some reason, if youhaven't built up a team, if you
have three or four thornssitting there, for some reason,
I mean you'd be minus nine, nice12 points.
You would really be hurting,yeah, you would be hurting.
So, like theoretically, youcould end up with negative
(39:59):
points.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yeah, I quite enjoyed that game.
It's like Andrew said, it's aquick play, it's just there is a
lot of interaction in the game.
Yes, it can be.
It can be.
You can either be we'll call it, take thatty or you can also be
helpful.
Yeah, and you get rewarded forbeing helpful on the other
(40:24):
persons, so you could prune somethorns off of another player's
board instead of doing it off ofyour board, and you would get
more rewards, more points for it.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yes, you don't have to worry about the thorn in my
car.
But then you get rewarded.
You get the three points yes,Instead of yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
At the end of the game, instead of getting yeah,
you take that thorn, you put itoff to your side and you get
three points for doing that.
So very interesting, veryinteresting gameplay.
I quite enjoy the game.
I do believe I would be willingI actually I would like to do a
deep dive into this game, intoa later episode.
(41:08):
That's how much I enjoy thisgame.
What do you say?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
That would be.
I think that's a great idea andit was kind of interesting.
I was in a Facebook group and Ijust heard somebody else
talking about it and thedesigner, jack Dunbar's in there
and I was able just to click alink and buy it directly from
the publisher and it came veryquickly.
I wasn't expecting it to comethat quick, but yeah, I would
(41:36):
like to do an actual review ofit where we talk a little bit
more about all the mechanics andall the things that go on in it
.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Yeah, call it a deep dive.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Deep dive.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Deep dive.
I want to get away from theword review.
Not that I think they're bad, Ijust don't think we do it well.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
But absolutely we should do that, and some of the
best games out there are thoselittle independent games that
not many people know of, so I'dlike to get that game out there
to more people's ears.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
That's a great idea.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
So all right.
All right and lastly, Ooh, Idon't even know if I want to
talk about this one.
This was so frustrating.
Angie, what was the last game?
Speaker 2 (42:23):
It was a great Western Trail.
We started it pretty late atnight and it was your suggestion
, and we couldn't even getthrough the game.
It was so late at night.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
It got to a point.
First of all, we haven't playedthat game in a very long time.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
And I mean that game was a best of my month actually,
like it was literally one ofour top video topics.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yeah, I mean it's a good game.
It's a great game, but it's notdifficult.
But once you get out of it fora while, those little rules are.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
I was so frustrated it was screwed up the meat
market.
Yeah, oh, it was so frustratingto me and what made it worse is
like I'm like we're going aroundand we're going, and then we
sell our cattle and then youknow you go around again if
you've played the game beforeand I think we're I was on my
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second time around and Angiegoes you're doing something
wrong.
I'm like what do you mean?
I'm doing something wrong.
You used to get so many pointsevery time you went to sell your
cattle.
What are you doing wrong?
What are you doing differently?
I'm like I don't know.
And then you started like andthen you got into my head and I
(43:45):
was doing wrong.
What was I doing differently, ohmy goodness.
And then we got to a pointwhere it was so late I'm like
falling asleep at the table.
We had to get up early and Iwas like, let's just, I'm done,
(44:06):
I'm done.
We cannot finish this game.
Let's finish it tomorrow.
We'll leave it set up and wenever ended up finishing it
anyway.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
But oh wow, talk about can't start that one at
nine o'clock at night and Ithink it was that late.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
It might have been that we started it so late, and
trying to refresh ourselves withthe rules and everything.
And I wait, not a bad game.
I quite enjoy the game.
I quite enjoy the game.
But talk about a game that,when you stop playing, when you,
(44:41):
I don't know, I was almost likeplaying it again for the first
time for me.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah, right.
Well, there's the, and I hadyou had.
What did I call you last time?
You were like a cattle baron,it's a cattle baron and there is
a not a mechanism but you can.
Essentially, when you are on thespace that you can buy cattle,
you can give up.
(45:06):
Essentially, you can give upbuying cattle to like, refill or
add cattle to the market.
And we weren't doing that or Icould have been doing that,
because I was going past it andnot buying anything and I could
have been doing that and Ididn't.
So we were like running down toone cow.
I was like how is thishappening?
(45:27):
Because we started out with alot of I can't remember what
kind of cows they were.
We started out with a lot ofthem and it was just, and it was
a little bit more of expensiveone, I don't know.
Then we just kind of like andyou need a variety of cows.
So if you're buying a wholebunch of the same cow, then it
doesn't help you at the end whenyou get to selling them.
(45:48):
So I think that was a big thing, that was really a big thing
and it was probably.
It was my mistake I'm not goingto say only my mistake, but I
am the one with the rulebook andit is what would help you win
last time.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Yeah, whatever is what it is, we're listening to a
podcast hosted by two peoplewho just had that happen and
admitted to you guys that we'vebeen playing silver and gold
wrong for years.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
How are we playing it around again?
Speaker 3 (46:29):
We weren't adding in the coins or points.
We were doing it.
We weren't doing the individual.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
We were waiting.
Yeah, we were doing the coinsat the end of the round.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
So I love you all.
I love all you listeners.
However, next time you got agame in your hand and Chris is
talking highly of that game, hemight not have been playing it
right.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
We were playing resurgence correctly.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Oh, that's funny, All right.
Oh yes, talk about humbling.
You know that is humbling.
Getting an email from somebody.
I did make a joke.
Hey, if you bought a game on myrecommendation, I would send
you a sticker.
I got an email from somebody.
I got an email from Kent andman, talk about humbling.
So stickers are in the mail.
(47:17):
By the time this podcast comesout, you'll probably have gotten
them already.
So that's just great.
I can't get over that.
That's all.
So it's all.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
I wanted to say it's time for another chasing
meeple's top five list.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
These are the top five Phil Walker Harding games
in our opinion.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
in our opinion Do you think we're going to have
crossover?
Speaker 3 (48:13):
I think we might have crossover.
I think I think we're going tohave a cross.
I think we will have crossover.
I 100 percent think we willhave crossover.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
How many do you think ?
Speaker 3 (48:25):
I think we'll have two, so, but my, I just want to
say this again it's our opinion.
Okay, these are our favoritetop five Phil Walker Harding
games.
They don't have to be yourlisteners, they don't have to be
your top five, you don't evenhave to like any of them, but
(48:46):
this is what we like.
So, angie, can I start?
Speaker 2 (48:49):
You can start off.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
All right.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Number five.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
My number five, phil Walker, harding game.
Angie, I bet you're not evengoing to guess it.
We will not guess it.
My flanted.
No, I told you you wouldn't getit.
My number five Phil WalkerHarding game is one game, angie,
that allows me to relive thedays of friendship bracelets,
(49:24):
s'mores, wringing out myswimsuit after a long day of
swimming, and that is summercamp.
Summer camp is a competitivedeck building game where you
basically race to earn meritbadges and get the most
(49:45):
experiences, which we'll callthose experiences, but they're
actually points.
Each player has their own deckof cards and it's a deck builder
and it's just fun.
It is fun.
I really it was a game.
When did this game came out?
(50:06):
It came out in 2022?
2021.
, 2021.
And I think we got it at Target.
I think was it a Targetexclusive?
I think it was just.
I just knew that it was atTarget and for such a light,
simple, easy game, I ratherenjoy it.
(50:26):
So that's it.
That's my number five.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Well, you know what your number five is?
A pretty darn good game,because it is also my number
five.
Wow, it is.
It is.
So it is neat because they youdo compete in seven different
activities.
You have adventure, you havearts and crafts, there's some
cooking, there's some games,there's friendships in your
(50:54):
outdoor and your water sports.
And I think the reallyinteresting thing about this
game is that you don't play allof those at once.
There's what three or four, andeach of these activities have
different decks so you canrotate them in the games.
So you can be playing withadventure, cooking, water sports
(51:16):
in one game and the next timeyou play you can be doing arts
and crafts and games.
So it's so replayable.
But it is, I think, a goodintroduction to deck building
and I quite enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
All right, hey, that is our first.
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
First crossover Wow, I did not think that was going
to happen.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
Right away, even.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
I know.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
Very cool Number four .
Speaker 2 (51:48):
My number four is kind of for me.
Anyway, it was an obscure gamethat I had never heard about
until I walked into an old,dusty game store.
It is the 2015 game.
It was wedged.
I was in this game store.
(52:08):
It's dark, it's dingy andtechnically, this game store had
games from an older game storethat was sold.
They had gone out of business.
They sold their games to thisone.
So I knew all these games.
I knew the racks and I'msearching through the racks and
here's a lot of Arkham Horror,mentions of mansions, of madness
(52:30):
and shove between the two.
I'm looking at this box, thisdusty box, and it says Phil
Walker Harding.
I'm like what?
Pull it out, it is cacao.
And then it cacao is a tilelaying game in which players
take turns laying down thesquare tiles and if you lay them
(52:50):
next to each other, you canactivate the tiles.
You can put your little meepleon there, activate it.
You can get your cacao beans.
You could sell them at market.
You can put them on your playerboard.
The more beans, the more pointsyou get and the better you do.
(53:11):
It's a pretty simple game.
It's a pretty simple game Tilelaying not something that's
unique for Phil, but it's reallyenjoyable.
I really like this game.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
All right, my number four.
And you wanted to give me someof that cacao that you've been
harvesting.
Let me mix it on up in a niceyummy, yummy batter.
Preheat my oven to 455 degreesand make myself some gingerbread
, because my number four isgingerbread house Right.
(53:46):
Once upon a time, a witch livedalone in her house in the depths
of the forest, and you knowwhat her hobby was Making some
of them, gingerbread cookies.
In a matter of fact, angie,that witch loved gingerbread so
much that she made her entirehouse out of that gingerbread.
Unfortunately, she wasn't theonly person who loved
(54:08):
gingerbread, so a bunch of rudefairy tale characters passed by
and they start eating theirwalls and they start eating her
windows and they start eatingher doors.
And one day that witch decidedyou know what?
I've had enough of all thesepeople helping themselves and
paying attention to which typesof gingerbread those greedy
(54:28):
intruders like the most.
She figured out a way to getrid of them all, and you know
how she did that?
Well, I'll tell you, and you,you can figure it out how she
did it yourself by playing thegame.
So in that game, you take athree by three grid and you
cover symbols that showed fourdifferent types of gingerbreads
(54:51):
and each one of those some ofthem also have special actions
on them and the tiles may alsobe placed on existing tiles and
basically you're building a 3Dstructure in front of you.
If you cover two of the samesymbols, you get a bonus
gingerbread or action andvictory points are awarded for
(55:13):
building the tallest structure.
You also, basically, youcomplete orders.
So basically you'll have a cardthat says this character likes
this type of gingerbread andbasically you get.
You get the resources and youcan purchase those people, and
(55:34):
you get them, you get them andin the end, the player with the
most victory points wins.
And that is my number fourgingerbread house.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Number three.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
My number three is gingerbread house, the 2018 game
about, yes, making agingerbread house.
You said everything really well.
The only thing I would add isthat your fairytale creatures
some of them are good ones andsome of them are villains, and
(56:18):
so when you have your scoringobjectives, you may have some
that would.
You would like more villains oryou would not like villains.
So sometimes there's differentpoints based on are you getting
which fairytale creatures youare getting?
But other than that, you reallyyou nailed it.
You, you frosted the roof ofthe gingerbread house.
(56:41):
I know the other comment isthere cacao and gingerbread?
Speaker 3 (56:46):
You can make chocolate gingerbread cookies,
why not?
Speaker 2 (56:50):
Okay, you know, if somebody out there makes
chocolate gingerbread.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
Send Angie the recipe because I would love to try it.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
All right, all right, all right.
So what is your number three.
Speaker 3 (57:09):
So a chocolate gingerbread cookie is probably a
treasure.
It is probably a treasure thatmany people would say is worth
silver, maybe, maybe even gold,and that makes my number three
silver and gold.
So in this game everybody getstreasure maps and maybe where X
(57:37):
marks the spot is where you'regoing to find that chocolate
gingerbread cookie.
And how are you going to knowif you're going to find that?
You're going to find out bytaking an expedition card.
There's a deck and in that deckit's a deck with a question
mark on it.
That's your expedition carddeck.
You are going to flip thatexpedition card over and when
(58:01):
that card is revealed there'sgoing to be a polyamino shape on
there.
You're going to have a dryerase marker and you are going
to mark off that symbol on thesymbol that is on the card, on
your map, that shape.
If you cannot do that, you mustat least put one X on there,
(58:23):
mark off one square on yourtreasure map.
You're going to continue tomark your treasure maps until
seven out of the eightexpedition cards are revealed.
Once that happens, there'sgoing to be.
That's going to be the end ofthe route.
After a total of four rounds,each player calculates your
victory points and the game ends.
(58:44):
So let's talk about.
It's pretty simple.
I don't want to, I don't wantto drag this out any longer than
I than I have to, but you,basically, you flip a card, you
make the shape on your treasuremap.
Once you fill up your treasuremap, you now completed that map
and you draw another treasuremap.
So it's a pretty simple game.
(59:06):
You're marking off squares,you're flipping cards, and that
is my number three Angie, silverand Gold.
Speaker 1 (59:16):
Number two.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
My number two, chris, is a 2021 game, which is a nice
little interesting game that Ihappen to find in a little game
store, little toy shop in thebasement of where I work and
that is super mega lucky box.
This is a game that I think Isaw at Foster the Meeple and I
(59:45):
thought it was kind of silly andI'm thinking the name is kind
of silly.
It was really hokey looking boxand I picked it up and I
thought, oh, all right, I alwayslike to give her some business
every once in a while.
So I bought the game and, holymoly, do I like this flipping
right game.
(01:00:06):
Your cards they're just thesetiny little three by three grids
and they have random numbers ineach of the little squares and
it's almost like playingtic-tac-toe in a way, because
they are numbered one throughnine and during each round
you're going to flip cards whichare also numbered one through
nine and, very simply, you'regoing to cross that number off
(01:00:30):
on your card.
When you complete a roll orcolumn you're going to get a
bonus and any card that you fillup you're going to set aside
and during the end of the roundyou score up your card any
bonuses that you can add up onthat card.
Your game lasts for four roundsand then after the fourth round
(01:00:51):
, you total up the rounds onyour.
And the interesting thing here,chris, is that as your rounds
progress, your score, your cards, are worth less and less.
So you want to try to fill upthe more cards you can early on.
But this is a fast-paced game,small footprint.
It is one of my favorite gamesto solo, thank you.
(01:01:14):
It is also one of the gamesthat I have actually gotten game
to play in kind of a tricky way, because I told them we were
doing math and I slipped himthat game in.
So I don't tell him we're goingto play a game to do math, I
tell him we're going to do mathand then play a game.
That's one of my ways to gethim to play a game with me.
So my number two is Super MegaLucky Box.
Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
My number two makes you super, mega lucky, because
that is also my number two.
You, you did a really good jobexplaining the game.
It's bingo, but it is the bestversion of bingo you, me and all
of our listeners will ever play.
So if you have not had a chanceto play this game, what are you
(01:02:03):
waiting?
Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
for Number one.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
And my number one.
You may never guess what it is,chris.
It is a small box game that Ifound on a discount table in
Appleton, wisconsin, at theGnome Games is something that I
saw Mr Garcia play from the DiceTower is one of my favorite
reviewers and he kept talking upthis game.
(01:02:31):
It is silver and gold.
Yes, it was silver and gold.
You described that game so well.
I don't need to say much moreabout it other than it is a take
with you anywhere game.
Take with you anywhere.
Love this game.
It is my number one.
Chris did a great job ofexplaining it, so why don't you
(01:02:52):
go ahead, chris, and tell uswhat your number one is?
Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
I will, angie.
So we've already.
We've already been to summercamp.
We've already had a deliciousgingerbread cookie.
We got lucky filling out ourtreasure maps and found a super,
mega lucky box full ofchocolate gingerbread cookies.
(01:03:22):
And now you know what.
It's time for us to grow somepotatoes, grow some corn and
some cocoa on the slopes ofmountains, because, if that's
what you love, luckily this gameis going to just scratch that
(01:03:42):
for you.
What game am I talking about?
I'm talking about Lama Land.
In Lama Land, you play the roleof a Lama farmer Not really,
you play the role of a farmerwho is growing said resources
that I mentioned before potatoes, corn and cocoa and you're
getting some help from some Lamafriends of yours.
(01:04:04):
It's another one of those threedimensional grid games that
Phil Walker Harding does verywell.
He's very good at that spatialpuzzle.
So you want to go up in heightand basically, as you cover crop
, cover shapes, you get the cropunderneath it.
You use those crops to obtainLama cards.
(01:04:26):
Lama cards give you victorypoints, but they also allow you
to place a Lama on your farm andthe game plays about 45 minutes
and you're going to have animpressive crop growing area in
front of you and you're going tohave a bunch of little llamas
all over the place, all over theplace being all cuddly and cute
(01:04:48):
and Lama like.
So that is my number one, lamaland.
A lot of people say Lama landis a mixture of gingerbread,
house and Bear in park.
Bear in park.
Take the best of gingerbreadhouse, take the best of Bear in
park, smush it up together andyou've got Lama land.
(01:05:12):
Do you need to play Lama land?
If you played those two, Idon't know.
I enjoy playing gingerbreadhouse and I enjoy playing Lama
land.
Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
We've never played Bear in park.
Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
We've never played Bear in park.
Some people might say eh, eh,but I really enjoy the game.
So that's it, Number one.
Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
The interesting thing about Lama land, the thing that
I really like about it, are theobjective cards.
You choose which objectivesyou're going to go for and
there's several at the beginningof the game that are laid out
and you take turns, placing,like a little worker, on which
objective you want and at whatlevel, because there are
(01:05:56):
different scoring levels foreach objective card.
If you get to one first, youget the highest level off of
that one, or you're going to getthe most points for completing
that level or for completingthat objective.
So I think that's veryinteresting and I really enjoy
that part of the game.
Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Me too.
That's my number one, angie.
I'm surprised I'm.
I guess I'm not, I shouldn't besurprised, but there's there's
two things I'm surprised aboutyour list One explorers isn't
even on it.
I thought you really enjoyedthat game.
I thought it would have been atop five game for you.
I really do.
Where would, where would haveexplorers been for you on your
list?
Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Oh, um, let me um.
Explorers would probably havebeen Seven seven okay.
Seven, maybe I could give you.
Yeah, six would probably beenllama land.
I could give you which one.
I should ask you which one isyour worst.
(01:06:57):
I could tell that easily.
That's Neovill.
Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
That's your, that's your worst.
Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
That is my worst, walker.
Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Yeah, yeah, out of the ones that we own, neovill is
is probably not my well, Idon't know it's.
It would probably be sushi goas my worst, and it might.
Somebody might just be goingout there after hearing that,
but for me that it would besushi go.
(01:07:26):
Then, Neovill, my number sixwould probably be planted.
Oh, whoa, I, I miss that one,I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, my number six wouldbe spell book, and then, yeah,
Spell book is the newest one.
My number six would be spellbook and then planted, and then
monolith, and then Neovill isgone from there, but yes for
(01:07:51):
sure.
Well, meeple chasers, that's it.
Thank you for sticking around.
We really appreciate it.
2024, new year.
I did a fantastic job getting abig zero on a quiz One, but
high hopes for this for the restof this year.
Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
That's here you go.
It can only go up from here.
Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
But seriously, I want to thank you guys for listening
.
Your support means the world tous.
Angie and I do this because,while we love, we love the hobby
, we love sharing the hobby withothers.
We do put a lot of work, timeand effort into this podcast and
we hope that you guys enjoyevery minute of it.
One thing that really helps usis, if you guys like, subscribe,
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