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Greg
debater?
The debater was Michael.
Is Michael here?
Michael, try raising your handyeah.
I just wanted to put any topicin that I don't know it's
totally fine.
I've actually run across someonethere may have been a high
school or a college student, butwho is using cha e p t for
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debate practice.
So here's my side.
Give me the other side, tell methe problems so then I can come
up with how to defend againstthem.
So I think this is a greatprompt.
What topic do you want to have jchat, t p t do some debate prep
for?
Could be anything.
If a prompt the topic would bedoes prompt engineering make
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sense for Lang a large languagemodels?
Okay, cool.
I also saw someone had pineapplepizza, yes or no in the chat.
So I, I appreciate the absurdityeveryone is putting down.
Does prompt engineering makesense?
Can't spell make sense for largelanguage.
Models.
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And I got some feedback thatthere are some blind listeners
in the audience so I just wannaread off the prompt really
quick.
Your task is to act as a debaterone.
In debater two, you'll be givena topic debater one will have to
persuade Debater two and viceversa.
You have to present validarguments and reflect on them.
Notice the use of reflection.
Your goal is to achieve abias-free understanding of the
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topic and an agreement.
Cool.
Okay.
So it started, it gave a˜somewhat meandering, response.
It's particularly talking aboutprompt engineering mitigates
ethical concerns, and thatdoesn't really make a lot of
sense.
Then Debater two comes back withactually that's, nope, that
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doesn't make any sense either.
Prompt engineering can lead tooverfitting also.
No, that's not something thathappens in this stage.
Is there anything useful out ofthis?
Okay, this point right here,prompt engineering is not
intended to replace moreadvanced AI tech.
It's to complement it, you howthis, oh, by using a combination
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of prompt engineering and othertechniques, we can develop more
powerful and robust AI systems.
That's a good point.
It's pretty much the only goodpoint.
But hey so one thing I would sayis I would probably, actually I
don't need to rerun this in aseparate one.
Please present a brand new setof arguments focusing on what's
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the right way to say this?
Avoiding discussions ofoverfitting and what was the
other one that it was just BSingus on?
Yeah, mini and that and promptengineering reducing complexity
is, okay.
So you know what?
I'll just say avoid discussionsover fitting and focusing on how
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do I say this?
Best uses of a prompt engineersskills.
See if that comes up withanything useful.
Jason is asking, you're in 3.5?
Yes, I am in 3.5 because if Iuse four, this will be a very
short mastermind cuz we'll onlybe able to do I think it's 20
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now or maybe 25.
Cycles props.
So yeah I'm using three, five.
I also using three five becausethat's what most people have
access to in the a p I.
Obviously, I and other peoplehave access to 4.0 just in the
chat, but not in the a p i.
That's much rarer.
Okay.
Wait where did I, oh, there itis.
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Okay.
So better?
A little better.
Okay.
What is, what does Debater twosay?
Why it's bad Debater two pointis just that it's not better
than building a better system.
Okay.
I feel like that's getting toyour point, Michael, of how do
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we find the good and find thebad in a debate prep tool.
Let's see.
Oh yeah, the travel guide one.
Okay.
This is a long one.
So I am not going to read all ofthis, but Zeeshan, let's see if
I can find you in the chat andunmute you.
Okay, Zeeshan, you should beunmuted.
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Hey Greg, how you doing?
Good.
Nice to hear from you again.
Alright.
So we have a ton of stuff.
This is having never visitedTurkey.
I have no idea if any of this isaccurate, but it at least looks
good.
Yeah.
So this is actually based onsomething I was actually trying
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to do.
Cause I'm actually gonna bedoing this trip.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So I thought when I had put itin, it did a pretty good job.
But the one thing I was hopingto get more from it was like
specific things.
So for example, if you look atday two, it says, do a boat
tour.
Who, is there a company they canrecommend, or or a specific kind
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of organization to go through.
Or for example, hiking in thenearby mountains.
That's not as the script as Iwould hope, especially if
somebody going to a foreigncountry.
Like I need, like it spelled outas simply as possible.
So I'm not sure what else Icould do to maybe to refine
this.
Yeah.
Okay.
So let me pause for one second.
Amanda said, could you pleasethrow the prompt into the chat
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and I will do that.
It is in there.
Okay, so we want, it sounds likewhat you're looking for partly G
P T cannot provide, which istell me exact company names,
give me their website, gimmetheir phone number, whatever.
But if it could at least tell ussome details of, where to go
hiking, what to do, hiking, thatkind of thing.
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Sorry, one quick question.
Why wouldn't it be able to tellme specific like companies?
Because if I were to go on likeYelp or like some of these
review sites or whatever, likeyou can pull it up through
Google.
So why wouldn't chat G B T beable to do that?
Because chat PT isn't connectedto Google.
It mostly, as far as I know, didnot do indexing on deep links.
So like Yelp, it would not haveindexed Wikipedia, it would've
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indexed, oh if we were usingBard, which I'm by no means
promoting, but just as anexample, if we were using Bard,
it would be able to do that.
Sorry.
And same thing for Microsoftbing Bing in theory should be
able to do the same thing, andthat's actually something I've
been wanting to experiment with,probably won't today.
Let me start the 10 minute timerbefore I get distracted.
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Okay.
So let's work in some requestsfor detail here.
Your experience, travel guide,specializing in Turkey, need you
to plan a detailed itineraryFirst.
Five days are here.
Second.
Okay.
Is there, yeah, this is what I'mlooking for.
You need to plan every aspect ofmy trip, including travel from
hotel to destinations and backagain.
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You'll need to, you'll also needto include restaurants
recommended to eat and foractivities.
We are interested in thesethings.
Okay, so then that's perfectright there.
For all activities, pleaseprovide, how many was it
providing?
It's providing.
Looks like one activity per day.
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Two, sometimes.
Okay.
So for all activities, pleaseprovide at least three concrete
details.
And I don't know if thislanguage is gonna work, that's
why I'm running it in anotherscreen.
About where the where to go forthe activity and how to do it,
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how to, what's the right way tosay this?
Where to go for it and let'sjust say what to bring.
That'll be a little bit easier.
Or how to prepare for a ma or,yes, that's what I'm trying to
say.
Thank you.
All right.
So let's just run this and seehow it does.
Okay.
Yeah.
So it's, gimme more detail.
It's like providing names ofplaces.
Yeah.
So that's what's helpful.
I don't know how to pronouncethis, but k a s diving, book a
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trip with them.
Go to a specific beach for spswimming.
It's not including anything likeyou're gonna need sunscreen and
a towel.
And again, I don't know whatelse, but for these things, but,
oh, okay.
Wear comfortable shoes andclothes for the hike that's
getting there.
All right.
So by the way, the reason I'm, Ihave this open in two different
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windows is twofold.
Number one, I want you to beable to see the sort of before
and after, and I'm just gonnakeep bouncing back and forth.
But number two, if I ask it,okay, now tell me blank, that is
a good way to get theinformation, but it's a bad way
to make a prompt because thenyou have to try and figure out,
how do I mush these two promptsof, do this stuff now, tell me
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more together.
That said, prompt chaining is athing that I am doing a bunch of
exploration with and frankly,it's come up a bunch on Reddit
posts I think it was Lee that Iinterviewed who was using prompt
chaining to do"is this aquestion that my AI can answer?"
If yes, answer it.
But if no, don't try and answerit cuz then the AI just starts
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going crazy and instead just say"I'm sorry Dave, that's not a
question I can answer.
Sorry." So that's a helpfulerror checking thing.
I just saw in the chat closingout the debate thing one keyword
that may help is to specify thedebaters need to take opposite
and opposing viewpoints.
Thank you, Jason.
I think it was doing that, but Ithink it might have helped to
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call that out.
Good point.
And then Eric said by putting inlocation you're staying and the
activity, you can then ask forhow much is the transport and
some of that stuff.
That is a good point.
I want to focus a little moreactually.
No.
Zeeshan, this is your prompt.
What would you like to focusmore on?
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Would you like more tell me thedetails of, you need to bring, I
don't know, sunscreen, or areyou feeling more like you want
some more breadth (10:18):
give me more ideas per day?
I think probably more ideas perday.
I'm not too worried about whatto bring.
The more more idea to behelpful.
One thing I wanna show, I'm notgonna use it because it doesn't
do what I am wanting for you allto be able to see the sort of
changes, but if you click thisedit button, you can make
changes and let's justarbitrarily say no, no day
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should go past now 7:00 PM andthen it'll give this little
threading, sorry, threadinginterface right here so I can
use this to go back to theprevious version of the prompt.
The problem is that for you allon the screen share, you then
can't see it at the same time.
Like you can only see, here'sthis version where it's 7:00 PM
Let me scroll up now it's 5:00PM and I want you to be able to
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see the progression over time.
And so does that save as onething in the, the left window?
Paint it.
Save.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's I'm keeping it out ofthe view, but it's still just
the first turkey itinerary.
This other one is this window.
Sorry.
Yeah, this window right here.
Gotcha.
All right, so we're gonna comeback over here, going to paste
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the exact same prompt, make surethat I actually got it correct.
All right.
And you said more ideas foractivities.
Okay.
So for all, so for every daylist, at least five let's go
with four cuz it'll probablybreak it up evenly activities
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and then provide the concretedetails about them and blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
All right.
Ooh, it's not listening.
Oh.
Actually no, I take it back.
It is listening.
Okay.
So I'm gonna ignore the checkoutof the hotels, but it's giving
me scenic, hike, stunning viewsof the Mediterranean.
That's not really an activity,but Okay.
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Stop for lunch.
In the afternoon, explore theancient ruins of the Lian City
of Fellows.
I'm hoping I'm pronouncing thatright.
And then recommended restaurantfor dinner.
Eh, it's, that's not quiteenough, but we're getting there.
So I think let's open anothertab over here so we can just
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keep bouncing back and forth.
And that's not the updatedversion.
I need the updated version.
Updated version is here.
And three concrete details aboutit.
These details for each activityshould be at least two
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sentences.
So length guidelines are a thingthat can help sometimes it
backfires it, like Yeah, exactlythe way I was worried it would,
yeah.
So what it's doing is it'staking the, at least two
sentences to be the day insteadof each activity.
So let's I'm not even gonna keepthis visible.
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Let's just try that one moretime and rephrase this as let's
see.
For each day, list at least fouractivities describing them in
fine detail.
Of at least two sentences peractivity, then oops.
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Then please provide at leastthree concrete details about it.
Laba.
All right, let's see if thatworks.
Ooh, it's not liking that.
Nope, it's not liking that atall.
Okay, so I'm gonna try a bit ofa different thing here.
We're gonna try some shotprompting.
So just as a reminder, shotprompting is explaining what you
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want by providing some number ofexamples.
To be clear, zero examples is away of doing, it's called zero
shot prompting.
But in this case, I'm gonna gofor one.
And I'm going to go back towhere I liked the output.
So let's find one that was onthe longer side here.
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Yeah, so let's do this one andthen we're gonna say example
output.
And there's a bunch of ways ofdoing the shot prompting.
Totally.
Totally varies.
But we're just gonna do this daytwo, that's, and by the way,
including these bullets,hopefully will cause it to start
doing the bulleting again.
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Cause that was really nice.
And then what was the other one?
No, that's the one I just copyand pasted.
That was good.
And it doesn't actually matterif, as much if these things go
together.
Although they are, becausethey're both in the same
location.
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Great.
Alright.
Now, how would you do zero shotprompting?
So zero shot is what we'veactually been doing.
We haven't been providing anexample.
All right.
Let's see if this works asintended better.
Okay.
Still not getting the sentencelength.
Interesting.
So this is something I'venoticed with chat, t p t and
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other things.
It sometimes just gets veryfixated on not responding the
way that you want it to.
So honestly, I'm gonna have itI'm gonna make a new tab.
This is silly and weird, butthis I think will work.
And that's the 10 minute timer.
All right, I'm gonna do one moreminute on this cause I wanna see
if this actually works.
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Rewrite these rewrite thisitinerary.
Ooh, can't spell that.
All right.
Travel schedule with threesentences per bullet.
Because honestly I just don'tfeel like actually doing it.
Ooh, wow.
It refused.
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Oh, that's so interesting.
This is a great example of whenI'm gonna do edit because I
don't actually really for eachbullet.
You gonna take that?
Maybe not.
Oh no, it actually provided anexample of a company that I
could go with, so that's reallyhelpful.
Yeah, I don't know if it's Idon't know if it's real, that,
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that would be a great exampleactually of why you have to be
careful with this kind of thingcuz hallucinations are very
common.
But just cuz I'm curious, yes,they exist.
I would check and make sure theystill exist after the pandemic,
but they at least existed at onepoint, cool.
Alright, so since that was thetimer, I'm gonna move on.
What I was trying to do was getchat g p t to write longer so
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that I could then plug that inas my one shot example, because
what keeps happening is I'mfeeding it two sentences,
telling it that I want it toproduce more than two sentences
and it's basically being like,oh, I'm gonna listen to your
example more than your command: no. (17:01):
undefined
All right.
Let's see here.
You're welcome.
Got a next one.
I only see one Eric, so I'mhoping this is the right.
Eric, I'm un unmuting you.
If you are not doing Eric thatjust submitted this.
Yeah.
Just CEO of a startup.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thanks for hosting this, by theway.
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You are welcome.
I have a lot of fun doing these.
And I will put it in the chat.
It has requested.
Hang on.
There we go.
All right.
So here is your prompt and tellus about what the output is that
you were looking for.
Oh boy, that's some weirdoutput.
But anyway, go ahead.
I just gave an example if youlike, they have five, or
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actually six different ideasthere.
And basically I'm justinterested in business research.
Oh, got it.
Okay.
In general.
And I just think because theamount of time you can research
different ideas using Google inthe past or you would really
need to aggregate all the datapoints.
And like you said, chat BC has alot of hallucinations.
You can't take it a hundredpercent, but the amount of like
research you can do compared towhat you were able to do four
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months ago, five months ago isjust like amazing, right?
You can really get ideas,experiment with them, look at
competitors in like seconds.
So I just wanted to bring thatup.
I didn't know if anybody elseis, experimenting with those
kind of ideas or have playedaround with it.
But the the business idea,business solutions analyzing
competitors all that stuff Ithink is super interesting and I
think it's just gonna getfurther along.
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This is just like the firstwe're seeing.
Oh yeah.
I've already research and likeahead business research.
Sorry.
Yeah, I've already seen I don'tremember the name and actually,
I'm not sure I'm allowed to saythe name, but I have seen
someone who was working on aplugin that pulled in s e m
Rush, which is a social mediamarketing optimization tool.
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Mouthful into chat G P T as a,an official plugin as a few
others as well.
So yeah, there's definitely alot of interest in this.
Okay, so rereading, actuallythese are actually different
prompts.
Okay.
It was just like if you playedit through from top to bottom,
just to see how, how chat two bt would got it.
Yeah.
Okay.
So let me just throw in one at atime and then, okay.
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This is interesting.
Not, I don't know enough aboutthis area.
So would you say this is areasonable response or is this
kind of a reason?
Yeah, if you want to just forlike phone, we can just make up
an idea.
But I was just, just Sure.
Bring, this is just something Ithought of, but whatever you
wanna do.
Yeah.
Or we can roll with this, butyeah, that sounds, that actually
seems pretty like on point.
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Okay, cool.
So you wanna go onto the secondprompt then the customer
segments?
I think it was, yeah, there wego.
Oh, and I see in the chatsomeone saying you don't need to
read it all loud.
The reason I'm reading it aloudagain, is for the people who are
listening because they're notable to see the screen either
because they are blind or theyare driving or whatever the case
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may be.
Sorry if it slows things down alittle bit, but I wanna try and
make it accessible to everybody.
So basically the idea is, howcan you bring automation to
smaller businesses, right?
Small medium enterprises.
So now we're saying, business tocustomers or business to
business.
And I just think it's just spitsout 10 ideas for both, right?
Which I think is obviously youcan think some of these are
things in your own, but yeah,just the speed of ideas is just
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what blows me away.
So I think what tends to be moreinteresting about this kind of
thing is I don't know, I'm justgonna pick out law firms
arbitrarily cuz my dad's alawyer.
Tell me more about thepossibilities for law firms and
then let it run.
And I'm not a lawyer so I, Ican't be like, seven's totally
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wrong, but like being able to dothis iterative narrow down now,
generate a bunch of ideas,things like that tends to help a
lot.
And this is.
At least from what my dad tellsme, attorneys on the call feel
free to pipe up and say, this isjunk.
But yeah.
It at least seems reasonable.
Case management is onesuggestion.
Cuz there's just a lot oftracking deadlines and
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generating status updates.
Document management is basicallythe same thing.
Billing is the same thing.
Yeah.
A lot of these actually make alot of sense.
What was the third chunk?
Yeah, so your third one wasexactly where I was just
thinking do.
So the third one is, what kindsof products and services do my
competitors offer and how dothey compare to my services?
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Now, obviously that in factactually it should say, yeah, as
an AI language model, I don'thave access to specific
information about yourcompetitors or your product
slash service, but, you can, youcould put in something I guess
Eric is the, is there an exampleyou could say of what you might
hypothetically offer?
So give it a little morecontext.
If you go back to the thequestions or the prompts I
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posted, if we go with the samelike business idea the, with the
total addressable market.
And maybe that then follow upwith the question of
competitors.
So what's the total addressablemarket for an automation company
targeting SMEs in upstate NewYork?
What services, I should say, areoffered by those companies?
We'll just say those is notclear enough by those service
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providers.
Hopefully that'll be clearenough that I'm talking about
the companies, not the SMEs theclients basically.
All right.
So yeah it still did the I don'tactually have access to the
internet, so I don't know, butsome possible services are
workflow automation, datamanagement, customer
relationship management, allthat stuff.
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not a business major, but thissounds right, Eric.
Yeah, I was just basicallygiving you a breakdown, but yeah
but it's not doing thecalculation, which is what you
actually wanted.
And that's I don't think we'regonna get there with chat bt you
definitely won't get accurate.
Accurate.
You'll, you might get a number,but it's gonna be like 37
million.
Yeah.
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But Exactly.
But plugins, like you weretalking about with access to
software with that do have thatdata combined with like ideas
and computer you can talk to isjust like blowing my mind.
What's gonna come.
So that was the idea with theseprompts.
Got another minute or two lefton this.
I could see plugging in a coupleof the other things that you had
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asked about, but is thereanother direction that you would
be more interested to take this,Eric?
No, that was pretty much it.
Okay.
Then I'm actually curious toplug in these two things here.
So please give me some ideas forrevenue models and please give
me the cost structure of such acompany and we'll see.
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We're not giving it a whole lotof clarity, but we'll see if it
comes up with, yeah.
Okay, cool.
So subscription models, pay peruse, commission, consulting,
performance fees.
These all make sense.
They're pretty generic.
Cost structure, again, thesemake sense to me, but I guess
Eric sanity check as the atleast more expert than I am.
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I'm not that much more of anexpert, but it's, for the most
part it sounds about right.
It looks good.
Cool.
Yeah, it looks good and I'mcoming from the startup world.
I'm yeah that's what I knowabout building a business, but I
don't know about this industry,okay.
Cool.
All right.
Let's see.
I'm gonna guess I know who thisis.
Is this Yulee?
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Yes, it is.
I thought I recognized thisprompt.
Let me unmute you.
Okay.
This is an enormous prompt.
So let's just open a new one.
I'm going to paste this in, andas you can see, it is enormous.
I'm not gonna read all of it.
Yeah.
Basically.
Yeah.
And this is a really cool idea.
I interviewed Lee sometime thisweek for the podcast.
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What I did is I took the samestrategy, but this one is for
any type of business content.
So what it does is it creates aseries of questions for the
business owner or the personwith a product, idea, service,
whatever, anyone who needs togenerate content.
And what it does is it creates aseries of questions.
They then give the answer, thenit creates a prompt for them
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which they can then use togenerate anything.
But I just felt like it neededsome tweaking because I don't
know, I just think it's too longand maybe it has information
that is unnecessary.
So one thought is just 11questions is a lot.
At minimum, just asking them ingroups of five or six would
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help, but.
I wonder if the type ofintelligence thing might be a
little much, but I see whatyou're getting at.
Okay.
Let me throw a couple ofexamples in.
One nice thing about metaprompting like this, and, sorry,
let me back up.
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What Lee is doing here iscrafting a prompt that will then
generate a prompt that you canthen run to generate the
content.
So that's called meta prompting.
It's also called promptgenerating prompts, but let's
not go there.
And basically the trick withthis is you're trying to not
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only make sure the prompt thatyou get built is good, but then
that the output of the prompt isgood.
So there's some iterativetesting here.
One nice thing though is youdon't have to answer all its
questions even though they arethere.
So I'm just gonna say I don'tknow, Lee what product or idea
do you want to do and whattarget audience?
And we'll just not answer therest.
Oh, just God, I don't know.
Just say an educational gamethat teaches all of recorded
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human history and we'll doobviously that's gonna be school
kids.
We're just gonna leave it atthat.
Is there anything else that weshould throw in here?
Oh, yes, actually, number six.
Somebody in the chat throw out afamous person.
I don't really even care who,just a famous person so that we
can say, talk in the style of, Idon't know, Arnold
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Schwartzenegger or yeah, I don'tknow.
Shakespeare.
That's a good one.
All right.
Gonna be rhyming couplets ofassuming I can spell Shakespeare
right, whatever.
It'll recognize it even if I didbangle it.
All right.
Ooh, it's still giving me thosequestions.
Generate, anyway, let's see ifit does it.
All right.
Great.
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So it's doing the keywords, it'snot super pulling in anything
Shakespeare related, although itis focusing on, Nope, actually
it's not.
Okay.
Optimize your content.
Okay.
So then let's add in I can gohere and replay sophistication
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going to be elementary schoolage.
I don't actually know, so I'mnot gonna answer that.
Multiple intelligence.
We're gonna say music and goalis, What is the goal of the
educational game?
Teach specific historical eventsor concepts or to encourage
general knowledge about history.
Let's go with general knowledgeand let's see if we run that.
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Generate.
Anyway, that's getting better.
Okay.
So it's it's still mostly justhistory, but there is music and
history, making history comealive.
That's, I thinks pretty much itthough, in you here.
It should give you your prompt.
There it is.
Okay.
Okay, cool.
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So that's really what I wanted.
I was eventually just gonna belike, all right don't bother
giving me the the seo.
Just give me the prompt.
But it worked.
Okay, so now let's run this andthese seam speaking as a
different kind of educator.
These seem pretty good.
Obviously age appropriatelanguage is something you need,
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but incorporating music at soundeffects since we said music is
the way these kids learn.
Talking about that interactivityis a good general thing.
Visuals, that's interesting.
It's it's repeating itself.
Use visuals to enhance learning,make it visually appealing.
In fact, actually, I think therewas another visual thing too.
It's weird because it's creatinginstructions for someone on how
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to put together not the contentfor their website where they
have a game or a product, butit's creating things that they
will need to create the product.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Okay.
So so is design prompt windowhere?
Yeah.
So let me tweak this and then Ihave an idea for how to do that.
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So instead of saying, can youhelp me create, just tell it,
create content for the game thatis user-centered, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Visuals is fine.
Okay.
And then it should also say,making it fun.
Make sure that the contentincludes music and interactive
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learn learning.
And then just to add a littlespice on this I'm gonna say
think step by step.
I'm not sure if that's gonnahelp here, but I'm hoping.
Nope.
Didn't work.
My hope was that telling itthink step by step would get it
out of the tell you the stuff todo and get it into the do the
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stuff did not work.
So let's just try taking thatout.
I don't think it actually isgonna make a difference though.
Think step by step is mostly alogic or math tool.
Yeah.
Okay.
So still not doing it, it'sstill giving you instructions.
So one more tweak here and thenI wanna go back to the prompt.
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Yeah, it's okay.
Super involved if you wanted tomove on to someone else's,
because if you, cuz what I, whenI did this the first time and I
went through the step by stepbecause I was answering each
question one at a time, it wasthen giving me the kind of
content I needed, but I justthought there's gotta be an
easier or simpler way to dothis.
Yeah.
I think part of the problem hereis whether or not it's
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intentionally doing this.
I think this is probably tootoo, lemme say this a different
way.
It's too much content that is ityou're asking it to generate
because this isn't, one sentencebullet point questions.
At least that's not the way it'sreacting.
It's reacting of oh, you want anentire lesson.
And so I think if we maybe try.
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Oh yes.
Sarah.
Hang on, let me paste thatprompt in here.
Yep, there you go.
So maybe if we rerun this yetagain and say basically I want
to give it Yeah.
Create the content of the game.
20 questions.
Okay.
So least confusing.
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We're confusing something herebecause this is for this would
be for someone who alreadycreated the game and they just
need the content for thewebsite.
The content then promotes it.
So this is supposed to begeneral use for anyone with
website content.
Got it.
Okay.
So this isn't yeah.
So we're instructing it to,yeah.
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So I don't need it to, it's tooit, but what it does is it
generates, 10 questions, youanswer'em one at a time and then
it creates a problem.
And now you run that prompt andyou get all of your website
content for anything.
It's general use, but I just,yeah.
So I can definitely say righthere, that's part of the
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challenge cuz create the perfectcontent for their project.
Yeah.
Just thinking in terms ofEnglish structure, that's the
project's content, not theproject's marketing content.
Oh, I doubt this tweak is gonnamake the difference, but let's
just try it really quick.
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Okay.
Yeah, go.
So all I'm doing is changing itto create the marketing for the
project, and now it's gonna askall the same questions again.
Of course.
So lemme just go back, where didI have those so I don't have to
retype a whole bunch of stuff?
Yeah.
Because I wanted it to berelevant, to anyone who has
website content, general use.
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All right.
So it's generating the seo.
And then can you ah, yeah.
Can you help me create engagingand fun content to market my
educational game for school kidsthat teaches all of recorded
history?
Awesome.
Okay.
Let's go run that in anotherwindow.
By the way, this is somethingthat came up on the last
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mastermind, but you don't wantto run you don't wanna run this
prompt in the same discussion,number one, because it's going
to confuse your promptgenerator.
But number two, because it'sgoing to have a bunch of context
that it's not supposed to.
The whole point is you want torun this in a brand new, excuse
me, environment, so that itdoesn't have any of the other
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context to make sure this promptworks on its own.
Well, it's certainly gettingcloser now.
It's not doing lesson plan kindof stuff.
It's doing social media contentand, choose a writing style,
determine the best format ofblog versus video versus email,
and here are specific kinds ofcontent.
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So I think probably to do this,in a single prompt obviously is
challenging, but if you weregonna do that, probably the
nuance would be giving it moreoutput constraint in terms of
not just for this prompt overhere, but that this prompt
should be asking for a specificto generate a specific number of
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pieces of content.
Give me 10 Facebook posts, giveme 20 tweets, give me five ideas
for YouTube videos, whatever.
But that might be the thing totry and get this to be a little
more concrete and a little lessgeneric.
Lemme just throw that in reallyquick here just to see generate
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10 Facebook posts and 10 ideasfor YouTube videos.
That's the only tweak I'mmaking.
Yeah.
So Lee, I think this is reallywhat you were looking for,
right?
Yeah.
That's a lot better.
Okay, going back to the promptgenerating prompt way up at the
top, and yes, that is the 10minutes.
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I'm gonna do another minute ortwo on this and then we will
wrap up.
Let me see.
All right, so copy this, make anew window, run it again and
Okay.
Generate the perfect prompt tocreate.
In fact, actually I think itmight work if I just put it
right here.
So generate the perfect promptfor them to use on chat PT to
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create 10 Facebook posts and 10YouTube videos with the perfect
content for blah, blah.
And then we'll just throw in thesame answers before please
generate and Nope.
Doesn't really want to do it.
Generate anyway.
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Wow.
Yes, it worked.
Okay, so it is outputting atable.
Yeah.
Of, I don't entirely understand.
Oh, this is basically thefeedback prompt matrix.
Interesting.
This is basically the summary ofthe 11 questions, which we
didn't really answer.
So it's just made up stuff,which is kind of cool and kind
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of weird.
And then here's a long set ofSEO keywords, and then there are
the Facebook prompts, sorry,posts bring history to life with
our new educational game.
Perfect for school, kids of allages.
Teach history in a whole new waywith our innovative educational
software and the YouTube videosand yeah.
Okay.
I think that got to where youwanted, is that right?
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Yeah.
Yeah.
You could either do it that wayor just instead of social media,
just replace that with generatewebsite content.
But now I see that you have tobe very, you can't just say
content.
Yeah, you have to be specific.
I don't think even generatewebsite content would work
because website content could beyour about page or it could be
your sales page, or it could beyour FAQs unless you're asking
it to format it first, maybe.
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Okay, got it.
Yeah, you'd need a little moreclarity around the output.
Again, output constraint, that'sa specific phrase.
I specifically want these piecesof content.
Plus also, I would guess eitherone or two pages of the website
content would be the limit thatchat G p t would be able to, to
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output.
You see how long this is.
I would expect most websites inthis marketing context would be,
yeah, like almost that length ormaybe two.
Yeah.
Screens could be.
So you'd really want to be likeone, you could write something.
In fact, actually just for theheck of it, I'm gonna try
writing this.
You could do something where itwould be like, generate all the
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content and then offer me pagesto generate.
Okay.
From perfect content perfectwebsite site content for
marketing their project.
That should be five pageslanding page, FAQs concerns.
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And I don't know what it's gonnacome up with for that.
And actually, given that we'rerunning short on time, I'm just
gonna say it's those threepages.
And please output each page,pages content, go, and it's
gonna ask the same questions.
As always, please generate now.
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Go.
Oh, yeah, there we go.
It's doing it.
Okay, now it's throwing out theoh, interesting.
Okay.
Yeah, it's not quite doing it.
It's, it did give the prompt andthen it started in with, here
are my best guesses for what thepages should be.
And the prompt did not keep thecontent context that I want you
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to generate pages for a website.
Yeah.
It's close, it's websitecontent, but it's not specific
enough.
So I bet if I run this overhere, it is probably gonna
return some much more generic,actually, this isn't bad.
Yeah.
Okay.
This is it's not doing the,here's the F FAQ page and the
sales page and the whatever pageis.
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But, welcome to ourrevolutionary new educational
game.
We're learning history becomesan exciting adventure filled
with puzzles, quizzes, andinteractive features.
And then it's going on to talkabout, learn about significant
hor historical figures.
And what are you waiting for?
Join us.
Yeah.
It's very markety copy, but itis, it's copy, but it works, but
it's fast.
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Yeah.
Cool.
Okay.
Okay.
All give you some good ideas.
Thank you.
Appreciate your help on that.
You're welcome.
Awesome.
Okay let's see.
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That would be super helpful I'mgonna keep doing these
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I'm gonna produce a course cuzI've already given a talk on it
in San Diego.
Thank you all so much forcoming.
And the link is feedback,suggestions, whatever would make
this better for you.
I would love to hear, causethat's the whole reason I'm
doing it.
And let's see.
Oh, questions in the chat.
You are welcome Amanda.
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Can you ask chat g b t togenerate something simple like a
recipe for you as an exercise?
Totally.
And would the course be onUdemy?
Probably.
I know there's a million courseson Udemy.
I don't necessarily know ifthat's the best way.
If people are like, don't gothere, go to my spiffy
course.com.
I don't know.
Let me know in the chatter, inthe feedback form.
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Let's see.
So recipe I have what do I haveactually at the moment?
I have sweet potatoes and frozenchicken breasts and guacamole.
What is a recipe I could makeand how long will it take?
Actually, just to illustrate,I'm gonna run this also in chat,
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g p T four, because it usuallygets way better results.
It's just yeah I, sorry, I don'tremember who was asking, but
yeah, I'm capped at 25 messagesevery hour, so we would've long
exceeded that.
Interestingly though, it isgiving me pretty much the exact
same results in this case.
I guess it's a prettyconstrained set of ingredients.
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If you wanna throw something inthe chat of a list of things to
put in, go for it.
Interesting though, it's givingme different instructions.
400 degrees here, 4 25 there, 20to 25 minutes.
In both cases looks like theingredients are the same,
though.
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They are the same, but they're,no, they're not the same and
they're in different order.
That's hilarious.
So this is an example of thetemperature setting, which
admittedly we can't change inthis interface, but in other
interfaces you can actuallychange the temperature to make
it more creative or lesscreative.
And That's actually, if youwanna know more about that, go
to the podcast cause we justcovered that in the Quest g p t
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episode.
But you can't play with that inhere.
You can play with it in a moretechnical interface called the
Playground.
Oh, and I see a chat messagespecify not to be longer than X
Minutes.
Sure.
What's a recipe I could makethat takes less than I was
already saying 20 minutes.
So I guess, let me say 15minutes.
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I don't actually know if thatwould work with a frozen
chicken, but maybe it's smartenough to try throwing it in the
microwave.
Oh yeah.
Sorry.
This error is because it isgenerating in this window, I
have to wait until the otherwindow is finished.
Chachi PT and OpenAI are awareof that really should have
started with the 3 51 cuz it'sso much faster.
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Sorry about that.
Yeah, it's pretty, ah, okay.
So it since I said 15 minutes,it just said you should start
with two thaw chicken breastsand I specified they were
frozen, so that's an interestinghack, air quotes, but whatever,
it's at least at least trying togive me something.
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Okay.
Now regenerate and, oh,interesting.
The three five is giving me avery different answer.
It's saying avocado and tomatosalad, whereas four was
suggesting the chicken andguacamole wrap, which actually
now that I think about it,didn't I specify they were
frozen chicken breasts?
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Okay, good.
Yeah.
Thought it was saying somethingdifferent here.
Cool.
All right oh, apologies.
Looks like I'm a minute over,but I hope everybody got a lot
out of this.
It is super fun for me to do Allright everybody, thank you so
much and hope you have anawesome rest of your week.
Talk to you soon and see you onthe podcast, hear you on the
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podcast, and see you on YouTube.
Whatever.
Bye everybody.
Greg
debater?
The debater was Michael.
Is Michael here?
Michael, try raising your handyeah.
I just wanted to put any topicin that I don't know it's
totally fine.
I've actually run across someonethere may have been a high
school or a college student, butwho is using cha e p t for
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debate practice.
So here's my side.
Give me the other side, tell methe problems so then I can come
up with how to defend againstthem.
So I think this is a greatprompt.
What topic do you want to have jchat, t p t do some debate prep
for?
Could be anything.
If a prompt the topic would bedoes prompt engineering make
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sense for Lang a large languagemodels?
Okay, cool.
I also saw someone had pineapplepizza, yes or no in the chat.
So I, I appreciate the absurdityeveryone is putting down.
Does prompt engineering makesense?
Can't spell make sense for largelanguage.
Models.
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And I got some feedback thatthere are some blind listeners
in the audience so I just wannaread off the prompt really
quick.
Your task is to act as a debaterone.
In debater two, you'll be givena topic debater one will have to
persuade Debater two and viceversa.
You have to present validarguments and reflect on them.
Notice the use of reflection.
Your goal is to achieve abias-free understanding of the
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topic and an agreement.
Cool.
Okay.
So it started, it gave a˜somewhat meandering, response.
It's particularly talking aboutprompt engineering mitigates
ethical concerns, and thatdoesn't really make a lot of
sense.
Then Debater two comes back withactually that's, nope, that
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doesn't make any sense either.
Prompt engineering can lead tooverfitting also.
No, that's not something thathappens in this stage.
Is there anything useful out ofthis?
Okay, this point right here,prompt engineering is not
intended to replace moreadvanced AI tech.
It's to complement it, you howthis, oh, by using a combination
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of prompt engineering and othertechniques, we can develop more
powerful and robust AI systems.
That's a good point.
It's pretty much the only goodpoint.
But hey so one thing I would sayis I would probably, actually I
don't need to rerun this in aseparate one.
Please present a brand new setof arguments focusing on what's
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the right way to say this?
Avoiding discussions ofoverfitting and what was the
other one that it was just BSingus on?
Yeah, mini and that and promptengineering reducing complexity
is, okay.
So you know what?
I'll just say avoid discussionsover fitting and focusing on how
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do I say this?
Best uses of a prompt engineersskills.
See if that comes up withanything useful.
Jason is asking, you're in 3.5?
Yes, I am in 3.5 because if Iuse four, this will be a very
short mastermind cuz we'll onlybe able to do I think it's 20
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now or maybe 25.
Cycles props.
So yeah I'm using three, five.
I also using three five becausethat's what most people have
access to in the a p I.
Obviously, I and other peoplehave access to 4.0 just in the
chat, but not in the a p i.
That's much rarer.
Okay.
Wait where did I, oh, there itis.
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Okay.
So better?
A little better.
Okay.
What is, what does Debater twosay?
Why it's bad Debater two pointis just that it's not better
than building a better system.
Okay.
I feel like that's getting toyour point, Michael, of how do
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we find the good and find thebad in a debate prep tool.
Let's see.
Oh yeah, the travel guide one.
Okay.
This is a long one.
So I am not going to read all ofthis, but Zeeshan, let's see if
I can find you in the chat andunmute you.
Okay, Zeeshan, you should beunmuted.
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Hey Greg, how you doing?
Good.
Nice to hear from you again.
Alright.
So we have a ton of stuff.
This is having never visitedTurkey.
I have no idea if any of this isaccurate, but it at least looks
good.
Yeah.
So this is actually based onsomething I was actually trying
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to do.
Cause I'm actually gonna bedoing this trip.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So I thought when I had put itin, it did a pretty good job.
But the one thing I was hopingto get more from it was like
specific things.
So for example, if you look atday two, it says, do a boat
tour.
Who, is there a company they canrecommend, or or a specific kind
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of organization to go through.
Or for example, hiking in thenearby mountains.
That's not as the script as Iwould hope, especially if
somebody going to a foreigncountry.
Like I need, like it spelled outas simply as possible.
So I'm not sure what else Icould do to maybe to refine
this.
Yeah.
Okay.
So let me pause for one second.
Amanda said, could you pleasethrow the prompt into the chat
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and I will do that.
It is in there.
Okay, so we want, it sounds likewhat you're looking for partly G
P T cannot provide, which istell me exact company names,
give me their website, gimmetheir phone number, whatever.
But if it could at least tell ussome details of, where to go
hiking, what to do, hiking, thatkind of thing.
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Sorry, one quick question.
Why wouldn't it be able to tellme specific like companies?
Because if I were to go on likeYelp or like some of these
review sites or whatever, likeyou can pull it up through
Google.
So why wouldn't chat G B T beable to do that?
Because chat PT isn't connectedto Google.
It mostly, as far as I know, didnot do indexing on deep links.
So like Yelp, it would not haveindexed Wikipedia, it would've
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indexed, oh if we were usingBard, which I'm by no means
promoting, but just as anexample, if we were using Bard,
it would be able to do that.
Sorry.
And same thing for Microsoftbing Bing in theory should be
able to do the same thing, andthat's actually something I've
been wanting to experiment with,probably won't today.
Let me start the 10 minute timerbefore I get distracted.
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Okay.
So let's work in some requestsfor detail here.
Your experience, travel guide,specializing in Turkey, need you
to plan a detailed itineraryFirst.
Five days are here.
Second.
Okay.
Is there, yeah, this is what I'mlooking for.
You need to plan every aspect ofmy trip, including travel from
hotel to destinations and backagain.
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You'll need to, you'll also needto include restaurants
recommended to eat and foractivities.
We are interested in thesethings.
Okay, so then that's perfectright there.
For all activities, pleaseprovide, how many was it
providing?
It's providing.
Looks like one activity per day.
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Two, sometimes.
Okay.
So for all activities, pleaseprovide at least three concrete
details.
And I don't know if thislanguage is gonna work, that's
why I'm running it in anotherscreen.
About where the where to go forthe activity and how to do it,
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how to, what's the right way tosay this?
Where to go for it and let'sjust say what to bring.
That'll be a little bit easier.
Or how to prepare for a ma or,yes, that's what I'm trying to
say.
Thank you.
All right.
So let's just run this and seehow it does.
Okay.
Yeah.
So it's, gimme more detail.
It's like providing names ofplaces.
Yeah.
So that's what's helpful.
I don't know how to pronouncethis, but k a s diving, book a
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trip with them.
Go to a specific beach for spswimming.
It's not including anything likeyou're gonna need sunscreen and
a towel.
And again, I don't know whatelse, but for these things, but,
oh, okay.
Wear comfortable shoes andclothes for the hike that's
getting there.
All right.
So by the way, the reason I'm, Ihave this open in two different
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windows is twofold.
Number one, I want you to beable to see the sort of before
and after, and I'm just gonnakeep bouncing back and forth.
But number two, if I ask it,okay, now tell me blank, that is
a good way to get theinformation, but it's a bad way
to make a prompt because thenyou have to try and figure out,
how do I mush these two promptsof, do this stuff now, tell me
(09:08):
more together.
That said, prompt chaining is athing that I am doing a bunch of
exploration with and frankly,it's come up a bunch on Reddit
posts I think it was Lee that Iinterviewed who was using prompt
chaining to do"is this aquestion that my AI can answer?"
If yes, answer it.
But if no, don't try and answerit cuz then the AI just starts
(09:30):
going crazy and instead just say"I'm sorry Dave, that's not a
question I can answer.
Sorry." So that's a helpfulerror checking thing.
I just saw in the chat closingout the debate thing one keyword
that may help is to specify thedebaters need to take opposite
and opposing viewpoints.
Thank you, Jason.
I think it was doing that, but Ithink it might have helped to
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call that out.
Good point.
And then Eric said by putting inlocation you're staying and the
activity, you can then ask forhow much is the transport and
some of that stuff.
That is a good point.
I want to focus a little moreactually.
No.
Zeeshan, this is your prompt.
What would you like to focusmore on?
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Would you like more tell me thedetails of, you need to bring, I
don't know, sunscreen, or areyou feeling more like you want
some more breadth (10:18):
give me more ideas per day?
I think probably more ideas perday.
I'm not too worried about whatto bring.
The more more idea to behelpful.
One thing I wanna show, I'm notgonna use it because it doesn't
do what I am wanting for you allto be able to see the sort of
changes, but if you click thisedit button, you can make
changes and let's justarbitrarily say no, no day
(10:40):
should go past now 7:00 PM andthen it'll give this little
threading, sorry, threadinginterface right here so I can
use this to go back to theprevious version of the prompt.
The problem is that for you allon the screen share, you then
can't see it at the same time.
Like you can only see, here'sthis version where it's 7:00 PM
Let me scroll up now it's 5:00PM and I want you to be able to
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see the progression over time.
And so does that save as onething in the, the left window?
Paint it.
Save.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's I'm keeping it out ofthe view, but it's still just
the first turkey itinerary.
This other one is this window.
Sorry.
Yeah, this window right here.
Gotcha.
All right, so we're gonna comeback over here, going to paste
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the exact same prompt, make surethat I actually got it correct.
All right.
And you said more ideas foractivities.
Okay.
So for all, so for every daylist, at least five let's go
with four cuz it'll probablybreak it up evenly activities
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and then provide the concretedetails about them and blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
All right.
Ooh, it's not listening.
Oh.
Actually no, I take it back.
It is listening.
Okay.
So I'm gonna ignore the checkoutof the hotels, but it's giving
me scenic, hike, stunning viewsof the Mediterranean.
That's not really an activity,but Okay.
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Stop for lunch.
In the afternoon, explore theancient ruins of the Lian City
of Fellows.
I'm hoping I'm pronouncing thatright.
And then recommended restaurantfor dinner.
Eh, it's, that's not quiteenough, but we're getting there.
So I think let's open anothertab over here so we can just
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keep bouncing back and forth.
And that's not the updatedversion.
I need the updated version.
Updated version is here.
And three concrete details aboutit.
These details for each activityshould be at least two
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sentences.
So length guidelines are a thingthat can help sometimes it
backfires it, like Yeah, exactlythe way I was worried it would,
yeah.
So what it's doing is it'staking the, at least two
sentences to be the day insteadof each activity.
So let's I'm not even gonna keepthis visible.
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Let's just try that one moretime and rephrase this as let's
see.
For each day, list at least fouractivities describing them in
fine detail.
Of at least two sentences peractivity, then oops.
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Then please provide at leastthree concrete details about it.
Laba.
All right, let's see if thatworks.
Ooh, it's not liking that.
Nope, it's not liking that atall.
Okay, so I'm gonna try a bit ofa different thing here.
We're gonna try some shotprompting.
So just as a reminder, shotprompting is explaining what you
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want by providing some number ofexamples.
To be clear, zero examples is away of doing, it's called zero
shot prompting.
But in this case, I'm gonna gofor one.
And I'm going to go back towhere I liked the output.
So let's find one that was onthe longer side here.
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Yeah, so let's do this one andthen we're gonna say example
output.
And there's a bunch of ways ofdoing the shot prompting.
Totally.
Totally varies.
But we're just gonna do this daytwo, that's, and by the way,
including these bullets,hopefully will cause it to start
doing the bulleting again.
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Cause that was really nice.
And then what was the other one?
No, that's the one I just copyand pasted.
That was good.
And it doesn't actually matterif, as much if these things go
together.
Although they are, becausethey're both in the same
location.
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Great.
Alright.
Now, how would you do zero shotprompting?
So zero shot is what we'veactually been doing.
We haven't been providing anexample.
All right.
Let's see if this works asintended better.
Okay.
Still not getting the sentencelength.
Interesting.
So this is something I'venoticed with chat, t p t and
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other things.
It sometimes just gets veryfixated on not responding the
way that you want it to.
So honestly, I'm gonna have itI'm gonna make a new tab.
This is silly and weird, butthis I think will work.
And that's the 10 minute timer.
All right, I'm gonna do one moreminute on this cause I wanna see
if this actually works.
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Rewrite these rewrite thisitinerary.
Ooh, can't spell that.
All right.
Travel schedule with threesentences per bullet.
Because honestly I just don'tfeel like actually doing it.
Ooh, wow.
It refused.
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Oh, that's so interesting.
This is a great example of whenI'm gonna do edit because I
don't actually really for eachbullet.
You gonna take that?
Maybe not.
Oh no, it actually provided anexample of a company that I
could go with, so that's reallyhelpful.
Yeah, I don't know if it's Idon't know if it's real, that,
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that would be a great exampleactually of why you have to be
careful with this kind of thingcuz hallucinations are very
common.
But just cuz I'm curious, yes,they exist.
I would check and make sure theystill exist after the pandemic,
but they at least existed at onepoint, cool.
Alright, so since that was thetimer, I'm gonna move on.
What I was trying to do was getchat g p t to write longer so
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that I could then plug that inas my one shot example, because
what keeps happening is I'mfeeding it two sentences,
telling it that I want it toproduce more than two sentences
and it's basically being like,oh, I'm gonna listen to your
example more than your command: no. (17:01):
undefined
All right.
Let's see here.
You're welcome.
Got a next one.
I only see one Eric, so I'mhoping this is the right.
Eric, I'm un unmuting you.
If you are not doing Eric thatjust submitted this.
Yeah.
Just CEO of a startup.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thanks for hosting this, by theway.
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You are welcome.
I have a lot of fun doing these.
And I will put it in the chat.
It has requested.
Hang on.
There we go.
All right.
So here is your prompt and tellus about what the output is that
you were looking for.
Oh boy, that's some weirdoutput.
But anyway, go ahead.
I just gave an example if youlike, they have five, or
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actually six different ideasthere.
And basically I'm justinterested in business research.
Oh, got it.
Okay.
In general.
And I just think because theamount of time you can research
different ideas using Google inthe past or you would really
need to aggregate all the datapoints.
And like you said, chat BC has alot of hallucinations.
You can't take it a hundredpercent, but the amount of like
research you can do compared towhat you were able to do four
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months ago, five months ago isjust like amazing, right?
You can really get ideas,experiment with them, look at
competitors in like seconds.
So I just wanted to bring thatup.
I didn't know if anybody elseis, experimenting with those
kind of ideas or have playedaround with it.
But the the business idea,business solutions analyzing
competitors all that stuff Ithink is super interesting and I
think it's just gonna getfurther along.
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This is just like the firstwe're seeing.
Oh yeah.
I've already research and likeahead business research.
Sorry.
Yeah, I've already seen I don'tremember the name and actually,
I'm not sure I'm allowed to saythe name, but I have seen
someone who was working on aplugin that pulled in s e m
Rush, which is a social mediamarketing optimization tool.
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Mouthful into chat G P T as a,an official plugin as a few
others as well.
So yeah, there's definitely alot of interest in this.
Okay, so rereading, actuallythese are actually different
prompts.
Okay.
It was just like if you playedit through from top to bottom,
just to see how, how chat two bt would got it.
Yeah.
Okay.
So let me just throw in one at atime and then, okay.
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This is interesting.
Not, I don't know enough aboutthis area.
So would you say this is areasonable response or is this
kind of a reason?
Yeah, if you want to just forlike phone, we can just make up
an idea.
But I was just, just Sure.
Bring, this is just something Ithought of, but whatever you
wanna do.
Yeah.
Or we can roll with this, butyeah, that sounds, that actually
seems pretty like on point.
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Okay, cool.
So you wanna go onto the secondprompt then the customer
segments?
I think it was, yeah, there wego.
Oh, and I see in the chatsomeone saying you don't need to
read it all loud.
The reason I'm reading it aloudagain, is for the people who are
listening because they're notable to see the screen either
because they are blind or theyare driving or whatever the case
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may be.
Sorry if it slows things down alittle bit, but I wanna try and
make it accessible to everybody.
So basically the idea is, howcan you bring automation to
smaller businesses, right?
Small medium enterprises.
So now we're saying, business tocustomers or business to
business.
And I just think it's just spitsout 10 ideas for both, right?
Which I think is obviously youcan think some of these are
things in your own, but yeah,just the speed of ideas is just
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what blows me away.
So I think what tends to be moreinteresting about this kind of
thing is I don't know, I'm justgonna pick out law firms
arbitrarily cuz my dad's alawyer.
Tell me more about thepossibilities for law firms and
then let it run.
And I'm not a lawyer so I, Ican't be like, seven's totally
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wrong, but like being able to dothis iterative narrow down now,
generate a bunch of ideas,things like that tends to help a
lot.
And this is.
At least from what my dad tellsme, attorneys on the call feel
free to pipe up and say, this isjunk.
But yeah.
It at least seems reasonable.
Case management is onesuggestion.
Cuz there's just a lot oftracking deadlines and
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generating status updates.
Document management is basicallythe same thing.
Billing is the same thing.
Yeah.
A lot of these actually make alot of sense.
What was the third chunk?
Yeah, so your third one wasexactly where I was just
thinking do.
So the third one is, what kindsof products and services do my
competitors offer and how dothey compare to my services?
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Now, obviously that in factactually it should say, yeah, as
an AI language model, I don'thave access to specific
information about yourcompetitors or your product
slash service, but, you can, youcould put in something I guess
Eric is the, is there an exampleyou could say of what you might
hypothetically offer?
So give it a little morecontext.
If you go back to the thequestions or the prompts I
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posted, if we go with the samelike business idea the, with the
total addressable market.
And maybe that then follow upwith the question of
competitors.
So what's the total addressablemarket for an automation company
targeting SMEs in upstate NewYork?
What services, I should say, areoffered by those companies?
We'll just say those is notclear enough by those service
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providers.
Hopefully that'll be clearenough that I'm talking about
the companies, not the SMEs theclients basically.
All right.
So yeah it still did the I don'tactually have access to the
internet, so I don't know, butsome possible services are
workflow automation, datamanagement, customer
relationship management, allthat stuff.
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not a business major, but thissounds right, Eric.
Yeah, I was just basicallygiving you a breakdown, but yeah
but it's not doing thecalculation, which is what you
actually wanted.
And that's I don't think we'regonna get there with chat bt you
definitely won't get accurate.
Accurate.
You'll, you might get a number,but it's gonna be like 37
million.
Yeah.
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But Exactly.
But plugins, like you weretalking about with access to
software with that do have thatdata combined with like ideas
and computer you can talk to isjust like blowing my mind.
What's gonna come.
So that was the idea with theseprompts.
Got another minute or two lefton this.
I could see plugging in a coupleof the other things that you had
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asked about, but is thereanother direction that you would
be more interested to take this,Eric?
No, that was pretty much it.
Okay.
Then I'm actually curious toplug in these two things here.
So please give me some ideas forrevenue models and please give
me the cost structure of such acompany and we'll see.
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We're not giving it a whole lotof clarity, but we'll see if it
comes up with, yeah.
Okay, cool.
So subscription models, pay peruse, commission, consulting,
performance fees.
These all make sense.
They're pretty generic.
Cost structure, again, thesemake sense to me, but I guess
Eric sanity check as the atleast more expert than I am.
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I'm not that much more of anexpert, but it's, for the most
part it sounds about right.
It looks good.
Cool.
Yeah, it looks good and I'mcoming from the startup world.
I'm yeah that's what I knowabout building a business, but I
don't know about this industry,okay.
Cool.
All right.
Let's see.
I'm gonna guess I know who thisis.
Is this Yulee?
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Yes, it is.
I thought I recognized thisprompt.
Let me unmute you.
Okay.
This is an enormous prompt.
So let's just open a new one.
I'm going to paste this in, andas you can see, it is enormous.
I'm not gonna read all of it.
Yeah.
Basically.
Yeah.
And this is a really cool idea.
I interviewed Lee sometime thisweek for the podcast.
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What I did is I took the samestrategy, but this one is for
any type of business content.
So what it does is it creates aseries of questions for the
business owner or the personwith a product, idea, service,
whatever, anyone who needs togenerate content.
And what it does is it creates aseries of questions.
They then give the answer, thenit creates a prompt for them
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which they can then use togenerate anything.
But I just felt like it neededsome tweaking because I don't
know, I just think it's too longand maybe it has information
that is unnecessary.
So one thought is just 11questions is a lot.
At minimum, just asking them ingroups of five or six would
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help, but.
I wonder if the type ofintelligence thing might be a
little much, but I see whatyou're getting at.
Okay.
Let me throw a couple ofexamples in.
One nice thing about metaprompting like this, and, sorry,
let me back up.
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What Lee is doing here iscrafting a prompt that will then
generate a prompt that you canthen run to generate the
content.
So that's called meta prompting.
It's also called promptgenerating prompts, but let's
not go there.
And basically the trick withthis is you're trying to not
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only make sure the prompt thatyou get built is good, but then
that the output of the prompt isgood.
So there's some iterativetesting here.
One nice thing though is youdon't have to answer all its
questions even though they arethere.
So I'm just gonna say I don'tknow, Lee what product or idea
do you want to do and whattarget audience?
And we'll just not answer therest.
Oh, just God, I don't know.
Just say an educational gamethat teaches all of recorded
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human history and we'll doobviously that's gonna be school
kids.
We're just gonna leave it atthat.
Is there anything else that weshould throw in here?
Oh, yes, actually, number six.
Somebody in the chat throw out afamous person.
I don't really even care who,just a famous person so that we
can say, talk in the style of, Idon't know, Arnold
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Schwartzenegger or yeah, I don'tknow.
Shakespeare.
That's a good one.
All right.
Gonna be rhyming couplets ofassuming I can spell Shakespeare
right, whatever.
It'll recognize it even if I didbangle it.
All right.
Ooh, it's still giving me thosequestions.
Generate, anyway, let's see ifit does it.
All right.
Great.
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So it's doing the keywords, it'snot super pulling in anything
Shakespeare related, although itis focusing on, Nope, actually
it's not.
Okay.
Optimize your content.
Okay.
So then let's add in I can gohere and replay sophistication
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going to be elementary schoolage.
I don't actually know, so I'mnot gonna answer that.
Multiple intelligence.
We're gonna say music and goalis, What is the goal of the
educational game?
Teach specific historical eventsor concepts or to encourage
general knowledge about history.
Let's go with general knowledgeand let's see if we run that.
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Generate.
Anyway, that's getting better.
Okay.
So it's it's still mostly justhistory, but there is music and
history, making history comealive.
That's, I thinks pretty much itthough, in you here.
It should give you your prompt.
There it is.
Okay.
Okay, cool.
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So that's really what I wanted.
I was eventually just gonna belike, all right don't bother
giving me the the seo.
Just give me the prompt.
But it worked.
Okay, so now let's run this andthese seam speaking as a
different kind of educator.
These seem pretty good.
Obviously age appropriatelanguage is something you need,
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but incorporating music at soundeffects since we said music is
the way these kids learn.
Talking about that interactivityis a good general thing.
Visuals, that's interesting.
It's it's repeating itself.
Use visuals to enhance learning,make it visually appealing.
In fact, actually, I think therewas another visual thing too.
It's weird because it's creatinginstructions for someone on how
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to put together not the contentfor their website where they
have a game or a product, butit's creating things that they
will need to create the product.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Okay.
So so is design prompt windowhere?
Yeah.
So let me tweak this and then Ihave an idea for how to do that.
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So instead of saying, can youhelp me create, just tell it,
create content for the game thatis user-centered, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Visuals is fine.
Okay.
And then it should also say,making it fun.
Make sure that the contentincludes music and interactive
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learn learning.
And then just to add a littlespice on this I'm gonna say
think step by step.
I'm not sure if that's gonnahelp here, but I'm hoping.
Nope.
Didn't work.
My hope was that telling itthink step by step would get it
out of the tell you the stuff todo and get it into the do the
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stuff did not work.
So let's just try taking thatout.
I don't think it actually isgonna make a difference though.
Think step by step is mostly alogic or math tool.
Yeah.
Okay.
So still not doing it, it'sstill giving you instructions.
So one more tweak here and thenI wanna go back to the prompt.
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Yeah, it's okay.
Super involved if you wanted tomove on to someone else's,
because if you, cuz what I, whenI did this the first time and I
went through the step by stepbecause I was answering each
question one at a time, it wasthen giving me the kind of
content I needed, but I justthought there's gotta be an
easier or simpler way to dothis.
Yeah.
I think part of the problem hereis whether or not it's
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intentionally doing this.
I think this is probably tootoo, lemme say this a different
way.
It's too much content that is ityou're asking it to generate
because this isn't, one sentencebullet point questions.
At least that's not the way it'sreacting.
It's reacting of oh, you want anentire lesson.
And so I think if we maybe try.
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Oh yes.
Sarah.
Hang on, let me paste thatprompt in here.
Yep, there you go.
So maybe if we rerun this yetagain and say basically I want
to give it Yeah.
Create the content of the game.
20 questions.
Okay.
So least confusing.
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We're confusing something herebecause this is for this would
be for someone who alreadycreated the game and they just
need the content for thewebsite.
The content then promotes it.
So this is supposed to begeneral use for anyone with
website content.
Got it.
Okay.
So this isn't yeah.
So we're instructing it to,yeah.
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So I don't need it to, it's tooit, but what it does is it
generates, 10 questions, youanswer'em one at a time and then
it creates a problem.
And now you run that prompt andyou get all of your website
content for anything.
It's general use, but I just,yeah.
So I can definitely say righthere, that's part of the
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challenge cuz create the perfectcontent for their project.
Yeah.
Just thinking in terms ofEnglish structure, that's the
project's content, not theproject's marketing content.
Oh, I doubt this tweak is gonnamake the difference, but let's
just try it really quick.
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Okay.
Yeah, go.
So all I'm doing is changing itto create the marketing for the
project, and now it's gonna askall the same questions again.
Of course.
So lemme just go back, where didI have those so I don't have to
retype a whole bunch of stuff?
Yeah.
Because I wanted it to berelevant, to anyone who has
website content, general use.
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All right.
So it's generating the seo.
And then can you ah, yeah.
Can you help me create engagingand fun content to market my
educational game for school kidsthat teaches all of recorded
history?
Awesome.
Okay.
Let's go run that in anotherwindow.
By the way, this is somethingthat came up on the last
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mastermind, but you don't wantto run you don't wanna run this
prompt in the same discussion,number one, because it's going
to confuse your promptgenerator.
But number two, because it'sgoing to have a bunch of context
that it's not supposed to.
The whole point is you want torun this in a brand new, excuse
me, environment, so that itdoesn't have any of the other
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context to make sure this promptworks on its own.
Well, it's certainly gettingcloser now.
It's not doing lesson plan kindof stuff.
It's doing social media contentand, choose a writing style,
determine the best format ofblog versus video versus email,
and here are specific kinds ofcontent.
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So I think probably to do this,in a single prompt obviously is
challenging, but if you weregonna do that, probably the
nuance would be giving it moreoutput constraint in terms of
not just for this prompt overhere, but that this prompt
should be asking for a specificto generate a specific number of
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pieces of content.
Give me 10 Facebook posts, giveme 20 tweets, give me five ideas
for YouTube videos, whatever.
But that might be the thing totry and get this to be a little
more concrete and a little lessgeneric.
Lemme just throw that in reallyquick here just to see generate
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10 Facebook posts and 10 ideasfor YouTube videos.
That's the only tweak I'mmaking.
Yeah.
So Lee, I think this is reallywhat you were looking for,
right?
Yeah.
That's a lot better.
Okay, going back to the promptgenerating prompt way up at the
top, and yes, that is the 10minutes.
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I'm gonna do another minute ortwo on this and then we will
wrap up.
Let me see.
All right, so copy this, make anew window, run it again and
Okay.
Generate the perfect prompt tocreate.
In fact, actually I think itmight work if I just put it
right here.
So generate the perfect promptfor them to use on chat PT to
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create 10 Facebook posts and 10YouTube videos with the perfect
content for blah, blah.
And then we'll just throw in thesame answers before please
generate and Nope.
Doesn't really want to do it.
Generate anyway.
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Wow.
Yes, it worked.
Okay, so it is outputting atable.
Yeah.
Of, I don't entirely understand.
Oh, this is basically thefeedback prompt matrix.
Interesting.
This is basically the summary ofthe 11 questions, which we
didn't really answer.
So it's just made up stuff,which is kind of cool and kind
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of weird.
And then here's a long set ofSEO keywords, and then there are
the Facebook prompts, sorry,posts bring history to life with
our new educational game.
Perfect for school, kids of allages.
Teach history in a whole new waywith our innovative educational
software and the YouTube videosand yeah.
Okay.
I think that got to where youwanted, is that right?
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Yeah.
Yeah.
You could either do it that wayor just instead of social media,
just replace that with generatewebsite content.
But now I see that you have tobe very, you can't just say
content.
Yeah, you have to be specific.
I don't think even generatewebsite content would work
because website content could beyour about page or it could be
your sales page, or it could beyour FAQs unless you're asking
it to format it first, maybe.
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Okay, got it.
Yeah, you'd need a little moreclarity around the output.
Again, output constraint, that'sa specific phrase.
I specifically want these piecesof content.
Plus also, I would guess eitherone or two pages of the website
content would be the limit thatchat G p t would be able to, to
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output.
You see how long this is.
I would expect most websites inthis marketing context would be,
yeah, like almost that length ormaybe two.
Yeah.
Screens could be.
So you'd really want to be likeone, you could write something.
In fact, actually just for theheck of it, I'm gonna try
writing this.
You could do something where itwould be like, generate all the
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content and then offer me pagesto generate.
Okay.
From perfect content perfectwebsite site content for
marketing their project.
That should be five pageslanding page, FAQs concerns.
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And I don't know what it's gonnacome up with for that.
And actually, given that we'rerunning short on time, I'm just
gonna say it's those threepages.
And please output each page,pages content, go, and it's
gonna ask the same questions.
As always, please generate now.
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Go.
Oh, yeah, there we go.
It's doing it.
Okay, now it's throwing out theoh, interesting.
Okay.
Yeah, it's not quite doing it.
It's, it did give the prompt andthen it started in with, here
are my best guesses for what thepages should be.
And the prompt did not keep thecontent context that I want you
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to generate pages for a website.
Yeah.
It's close, it's websitecontent, but it's not specific
enough.
So I bet if I run this overhere, it is probably gonna
return some much more generic,actually, this isn't bad.
Yeah.
Okay.
This is it's not doing the,here's the F FAQ page and the
sales page and the whatever pageis.
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But, welcome to ourrevolutionary new educational
game.
We're learning history becomesan exciting adventure filled
with puzzles, quizzes, andinteractive features.
And then it's going on to talkabout, learn about significant
hor historical figures.
And what are you waiting for?
Join us.
Yeah.
It's very markety copy, but itis, it's copy, but it works, but
it's fast.
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Yeah.
Cool.
Okay.
Okay.
All give you some good ideas.
Thank you.
Appreciate your help on that.
You're welcome.
Awesome.
Okay let's see.
If this has been helpful for yousubscribe on YouTube like it,
five stars, that's podcastanyway, like subscribes five
stars, all that stuff, you know,the jam.
That would be super helpful I'mgonna keep doing these
masterminds cause I love themand I have a lot of fun.
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I'm gonna produce a course cuzI've already given a talk on it
in San Diego.
Thank you all so much forcoming.
And the link is feedback,suggestions, whatever would make
this better for you.
I would love to hear, causethat's the whole reason I'm
doing it.
And let's see.
Oh, questions in the chat.
You are welcome Amanda.
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Can you ask chat g b t togenerate something simple like a
recipe for you as an exercise?
Totally.
And would the course be onUdemy?
Probably.
I know there's a million courseson Udemy.
I don't necessarily know ifthat's the best way.
If people are like, don't gothere, go to my spiffy
course.com.
I don't know.
Let me know in the chatter, inthe feedback form.
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Let's see.
So recipe I have what do I haveactually at the moment?
I have sweet potatoes and frozenchicken breasts and guacamole.
What is a recipe I could makeand how long will it take?
Actually, just to illustrate,I'm gonna run this also in chat,
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g p T four, because it usuallygets way better results.
It's just yeah I, sorry, I don'tremember who was asking, but
yeah, I'm capped at 25 messagesevery hour, so we would've long
exceeded that.
Interestingly though, it isgiving me pretty much the exact
same results in this case.
I guess it's a prettyconstrained set of ingredients.
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If you wanna throw something inthe chat of a list of things to
put in, go for it.
Interesting though, it's givingme different instructions.
400 degrees here, 4 25 there, 20to 25 minutes.
In both cases looks like theingredients are the same,
though.
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They are the same, but they're,no, they're not the same and
they're in different order.
That's hilarious.
So this is an example of thetemperature setting, which
admittedly we can't change inthis interface, but in other
interfaces you can actuallychange the temperature to make
it more creative or lesscreative.
And That's actually, if youwanna know more about that, go
to the podcast cause we justcovered that in the Quest g p t
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episode.
But you can't play with that inhere.
You can play with it in a moretechnical interface called the
Playground.
Oh, and I see a chat messagespecify not to be longer than X
Minutes.
Sure.
What's a recipe I could makethat takes less than I was
already saying 20 minutes.
So I guess, let me say 15minutes.
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I don't actually know if thatwould work with a frozen
chicken, but maybe it's smartenough to try throwing it in the
microwave.
Oh yeah.
Sorry.
This error is because it isgenerating in this window, I
have to wait until the otherwindow is finished.
Chachi PT and OpenAI are awareof that really should have
started with the 3 51 cuz it'sso much faster.
(42:57):
Sorry about that.
Yeah, it's pretty, ah, okay.
So it since I said 15 minutes,it just said you should start
with two thaw chicken breastsand I specified they were
frozen, so that's an interestinghack, air quotes, but whatever,
it's at least at least trying togive me something.
(43:21):
Okay.
Now regenerate and, oh,interesting.
The three five is giving me avery different answer.
It's saying avocado and tomatosalad, whereas four was
suggesting the chicken andguacamole wrap, which actually
now that I think about it,didn't I specify they were
frozen chicken breasts?
(43:42):
Okay, good.
Yeah.
Thought it was saying somethingdifferent here.
Cool.
All right oh, apologies.
Looks like I'm a minute over,but I hope everybody got a lot
out of this.
It is super fun for me to do Allright everybody, thank you so
much and hope you have anawesome rest of your week.
Talk to you soon and see you onthe podcast, hear you on the
(44:06):
podcast, and see you on YouTube.
Whatever.
Bye everybody.
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