July 3, 2023 • 25 mins
Join us on this riveting journey into the realm of natural healing, spiritual encounters, and mental health awareness. Sunshine Farris, a dedicated mother, and an ardent believer in the power of food as medicine, shares her enlightening experiences. Discover how she creatively uses natural remedies like bone broth and fire cider, fondly named Dragon's Breath, to boost her family's immunity. Hear first-hand accounts of how these healing foods and remedies have significantly improved her family's health and wellbeing.
Sit tight as the narrative takes an intriguing twist into the world of spiritual activity. Living in a governor's mansion in Mexico, Sunshine's family confronted a myriad of spiritual encounters, both benevolent and malevolent. She poignantly narrates her experiences, the miracles witnessed, and the challenges faced. The story doesn't end there, as she uncovers her ongoing encounters with spiritual activity in her home in Missouri. The power of prayer, she says, played a crucial role in dealing with these experiences.
In our final segment, we navigate through the sensitive topic of mental illness, reflecting on the compelling story of Miles. Carrie underscores the importance of recognizing mental illnesses and the devastating consequences if left untreated. She passionately advocates for parents not to blame themselves if their children succumb to mental illness. This episode is a testament to the fact that mental health matters, and it's something that needs to be discussed and understood more openly in our society.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay.
so, besides, one of the thingsI wanted to ask you is you're a
healer.
I mean, besides, spiritualhealings that you do and your
tinctures and your food as yourmedicine and all that.
I know the things that you do,but I want you to say what some
of the things that you've doneand seen?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I was actually just going through a memory the other
day and my mom used to alwayscall me the little nurse because
when we were at the orphanagepeople, you know someone would
be sick or something and go over.
You know, as a child you werelike, oh, let me take care of
you.
You know and you know like patyour head and I'm gonna check
your heart and like the wholething because you just so and
(00:43):
then.
But like it continued like thiswhole like obsession with
wanting to make you better andlike food is your medicine 100%
And I always had like this lovefor the kitchen and making sure
that what you're putting in yourbody is going to make you
better.
So like when people are sick,like I make a bone broth in the
house and during the time ofyear when the flu is really bad,
(01:06):
like we do that and I make firecider on a regular basis.
So you know, and the littleboys know from a young age we do
like the shot game.
So I turn, like turn them intolittle baby frat boys because
they, i like I make the firecider which is like really
potent.
It's apple cider, vinegar andonions and garlic and jalapenos
(01:26):
and horseradish and ginger andturmeric and more hot things,
like if you can find more youknow types of peppers and it
just sits and sits and sits andcooks for like six weeks.
Oh wow, In the dark, then youstrain it and that should have
last forever, but you want touse it as much as possible
because it is You don't want tokiss anybody after you drink
that.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh my God, now like you, just go brush your teeth
after that.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It's bad And I call it dragon's breath, like that's
the name of it because they werelittle, you know, and I'm
trying to make it fun for them.
So we would line up little shotglasses of you know our fire
cider or dragon's breath And I'dbe like, all right, guys, let's
do this.
And they're like oh no.
And I'm like I bet you can't doit the fastest You know, like
(02:11):
trying to get them to do it.
It's like shot shot, shot, shot.
So they'd say to her like ready, you go, you go, you go, go go,
and they'd like chug it as fastas they could.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
And I don't sip on it .
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It'll take you all day.
I'm like, just get it done.
And they're like, ah, like itsmells awful.
And then they never got the flu.
It's just ever Ever.
Like my people never get theflu.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That's amazing Ever.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So that's just like one of the things that we love
Include in your life, yeah.
So they know they know like mom, stuff might be really bad
tasting but it's going to beamazing, yeah.
And then it was as far as likekitchen food and thing like that
.
You know, obviously it's goingto taste way better and a lot of
blood and stuff, but yeah, soit's just always been like this
(02:54):
thing of wanting to, you know,make life better and healthier
in that way.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So even when you were a young age and you were at the
orphanage or wherever you weretraveling around in Mexico,
where else did you guys go?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So we were, yeah we were just in Mexico Two
different times or three becausewe were in the mountains, And
then eventually we went backhome to San Antonio and then we
stayed stateside for a couple oftimes and then we went back to
do a church plant.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I say we I was like four Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I was, but crazy stuff that happened, and we can
definitely talk about this someother time if you want to too.
I love it.
I can come back and talk aboutall the crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Bring it on, man, i want it That we saw.
That's what I want.
Yeah, bring it That we saw.
Give me one In that Right now.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
So there it was like.
so we were living in agovernor's mansion in the.
this is what the orphanage was,So the government had given
this over to the state so thatit could be an orphan house,
right?
So it was an old governor'smansion which is like and then a
lot of the houses in Mexico arelike the Hacienda style, so
like it wrapped around thecourtyard and the pool in the
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middle.
So it was just really, you know,large corridors and long
hallways, right, and then we hadthis beautiful dining room that
we would eat in, like in thefloors, of course, were probably
like Saltillo tile.
I just they're definitely tile.
I'm just assuming they'reSaltillo tile because that's
what.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
that's what we did.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, that's normally what we built, They built
things in.
So we have these big tables andchairs and everything And this
was it had it had to have beenlike some portal.
that and I talk about all thetime because there was so much
spiritual activity in this place, Both good and bad It was
(04:44):
ridiculous, like evil and goodright It's.
it wasn't just like a ton ofdemonic activity.
There was tons of angels likewe'd see them all the time just
moving through and like themiracles that would happen in
things.
So it's just like you got tojust take the good with the bad.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
You know what I mean.
I'm, it's one of those, it's aspiritual you better all the
time.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, so we're asleep one night and Hear all this
banging, like chairs beingthrown and moved and banging,
and just all this shit happening.
It's crazy loud, loud, loudbecause it's it's like there
wasn't a lot of things to likesoundproof.
You know, a dining hall, it'sjust fucking table with a bunch
(05:23):
of chairs.
Yeah, on that tile, yeah, on thetile and so it's very the
acoustics are really like greatin there.
So you hear all this noise andit just it startles us right.
So I stay and dad goes into thekitchen and what he sees is the
chairs are everywhere, thetables turned, and Everything's
open and toss up it.
So it's totally like a horrormovie.
(05:44):
You know like you're like, youwalk into the room and you're
like, and everything's tossedright and He just kind of starts
praying.
He's just praying like okay,father, like you have us here,
you want us here for a reasonjust keep us all safe, keep our
family safe, and Whatever isn'tof you like it needs to go.
(06:05):
So like simple prayers likethat, right where That's just
and that's like the normalprayer is father, i am where I'm
supposed to be.
So you're here, holy Spirit,you're here, and whatever is in
of you doesn't belong.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
That's right Like let it go right now Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I don't want it here.
clear it, yeah, clear it out.
So He, like he puts it all backtogether and then go back to
sleep and then it does it again,whatever it was, and it's just
one of those disruptive thingslike they just want you to
engage, they want your attention, and it's so.
He like he didn't play the game.
You know he's like to make themess.
(06:43):
We're just gonna go to sleep,right.
Well, there were more menleveled at, ones that wanted
other things, and so It got tobe kind of scary sometimes.
And I remember running down thehall, like I was running on the
hallway to my mom on the otherside, and I saw something like
in front of me and like kind oflike startled me, i stopped.
(07:04):
Yeah, it was something and mymom's like come on, come on,
come on, you know we gotta go.
So I like keep running and asI'm walking, like my body goes
flying, like I literally liketrip over this huge something,
nothing, and my body goes flyingacross and My mom was like she
saw it and then she was likecome on, like let's go, and
she's like running to me.
(07:24):
I'm running to her, and did shesee it?
Yeah, okay, so you both saw,yeah, yeah, and I didn't know
what it was.
You know, i was just like Idon't know.
Like as a child, i feel likeyou see all the things and you
don't know you know, until itdoes something.
So it was, and then at thatpoint, like ever since that
point I had there's like I'llhave, like the one that stands
(07:46):
by my bed scares the shit out ofme and I wake up or it's
literally like on top of me andI can't move and I can't breathe
, and so there's those that comeback a lot, you know.
And since we've been in thishouse, now that we're at
Missouri, i told her I was likeI feel like this is a portal
because we're seeing both in ourhouse, we're seeing.
I can see angels and Jariah'stalking to him and hanging out
(08:07):
with him in his room and withhis whole being on the spectrum.
He's like hyper sensitive tospiritual activity.
So you like, i love watchinghim watch everything around us,
because that's the mostbeautiful thing is just to know
that this little magical baby islike extra spiritual and he's
beyond like this little body youknow what I mean.
(08:29):
Like, and it's okay if he's nonverbal, you know, it's okay
because he has a completelydifferent language.
She is made perfect in thisspiritual world.
That's just he's so brilliant.
So, yeah, so we're seeing a lotof both.
And I feel like I was tellingJosh the previous owner, she was
on her deathbed, also in ourroom No, really, yeah, did she
(08:53):
live?
She lived, and it was a hardrecovery for her too.
Oh my gosh.
And I, yeah, and I told Josh Iwas like I really feel like
there is something here.
It's not the only thing that'shere.
I feel like there's somethinghere that doesn't like women,
like it has like a vendettaagainst women, and so it's like
it's literally trying to kill usbecause we're the only two
(09:13):
women and everybody else is 100%healthy.
Nobody else in my family gotsick.
Nobody got anything.
Nobody got COVID, nobody gotpneumonia, nobody got.
None of them have had any ofthose things.
Wow, and I'm the only one that'slike literally dying on the bed
, like it was crazy.
And people will come over Likehave people visit and stuff.
And of course you know weattract amazing people.
(09:35):
So like all my people are veryspiritual people and they see
things right.
So one of them she was stayingin Dasha's room.
It's downstairs And Dasha waslike Dasha's room is bigger than
mine, it's this adorable suite.
Like he can fit a huge couch inthere and his bed and his
bathroom by himself, like henever has to leave.
It's crazy cozy, it's so cool.
(09:55):
So she's staying in his roomand I guess he was out of town
or something So she can lay inthe.
she was laying in the bed andthe stairs are here.
So you walk down the stairs andthen there's a huge living room
dead down here And then Dasha'sroom is way over here on that
side.
So right here And this is wherea lot of the activities
happening is right at the baseof the stairs, like if we're
talking spiritual stuff, when Iwent down to the stairs and it
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hit me and I'm like I can't goback up the stairs, like that's
where all that happens, right,so it very well could have been
way more spiritual than I evergive it credit for.
You know what I mean?
The whole me thing.
So she's laying in the bed andher head is turned sideways
looking, and she sees an entityand it's not a good one, because
she's like it tells you what itis.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Well, i think you feel it.
Yeah, it's a knowing, it's aclear cognizance, it's a knowing
.
So she was like fuck this.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, she closes the door, locks it and then she like
sages the shit out of that roomAnd that room.
I've been cleansing that roomover and over and over again
because the previous owner'sfather died in that room.
Okay So, and she was very openabout it, like we talked to some
of she's like yeah, i blessedit, it's fine, i opened the
(11:09):
window like the whole, likesuperstition of, like letting
the spirit go, like the wholething Right.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
She's like so it's been cleansed and blessed, and I
go, okay, yeah, i appreciatethat.
And then I go back and I'mdoing it all the time anyways,
because, regardless of himpassing, there's a ton of
activity that happens.
So she's, she's saged, she'slike I'm saging, saging, and
then she like goes to sleepfacing the door and you know,
and she didn't see it againBefore that, after I was sick,
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leslie and Mary came to see meand Mary is a Reiki master and
the aligning of the chakra, butit's something similar like
seeing things too, right, so shesees a lot of stuff too.
So she was over at the houseand she was like, huh, she goes.
So I just saw somebodydownstairs And I was like
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different person, differentperson completely.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, and she says they don't know each other.
Yeah, these two people, becausethe other person that's had saw
it Vanessa.
Yeah, she they don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
They've never met before.
They've never met before.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
No, no, and this is your Texas friends that came up
to visit you.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Well, vanessa's in Washington now.
So, like they're, they've nevercrossed paths And Vanessa
wasn't really at one point.
Yeah, and this is after I gotback from the hospital.
So this is before Vanessa Marysaw this person, okay, and she
says she's like this is moreprotective, though what I saw,
like I didn't feel any fear.
I felt like this we'll call ita being was there on a
(12:35):
protective mission, like kind ofjust overseeing everything to
make sure everything's okay,like there was like a calming
sense that she got from that,because there's another story I
need to tell you about.
Bring it That too.
But anyways, really quick, justto wrap up the whole cleansing
thing.
Yeah, that That's something wedo regularly, like I because of
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my herbalism and stuff.
like I love to infuse oil, so Iinfuse my own frankincense oil
and I anoint it, so I like,literally, i have some in the
car for you.
I literally like walk aroundwith my own anointing oil, you
know and it's so cool because,out of the blue, i'll run into a
situation where I'm like and Ineed to go bless that place with
my anointing oil.
(13:17):
Like you know, it's just it'sit's really cool.
So I regularly like pray overall my doorways, pray over all
my windows and Sage everything.
Well, i'm sorry, i say sage, iuse Palo Santo.
I love policy and they're bothvery similar to each other in
what they're in their propertiesbecause, like your actual, like
(13:39):
herbal Properties, that theymedicinal properties.
That they do is, when you burnthe Palo Santo or the sage, it
Literally cleanses the air.
Cleanses the air, so it'seating up anything that you know
little micro Organisms that arethere that are bad for the air,
and it purifies the air So it'sso it's meant to do that.
(13:59):
It is it's so?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
beautiful And there's .
I know there was like a PaloSanto is also used in for
blessing as well.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Mm-hmm, yeah, absolutely and it, yeah, so like
it's spiritual benefit would be, or metaphysical, like have
whatever word you want to useIt's very, it's a blessing, it's
this you know, opens up to likebeautiful things to happen
around you it's just reallypretty, and This, like a side
note on it, is that they wereendangered for a while in
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Ecuador, the Palo Santo trees,because everybody was using them
.
Oh, my god resource.
So just you know, noweverything's back to.
It's okay now.
They've known how to likeethically.
Yeah resource it and Whatever.
So just make sure you like,when you're getting it, that
you're getting it from like asound place, you know, yeah, to
be safe and keep the trees going.
(14:48):
You know, like, keep the treesalive, we need them.
As I'm kind of like walkingThrough this week to get to you,
right, i have, like you know,i'm getting ready for the day
and I'm kind of like buzzingaround Wimberley, you know, like
my old stomping ground, and goand like I feel I felt like
wherever I was, that's where Iwas supposed to be like, and
just magical, beautiful peoplekeep just kept falling in front
(15:09):
of me.
Yeah, it was the coolest day.
So I'm sitting down atcommunity pizza and I ran into
one of my old girlfriend'sdaughters I've like got to
engage and she saw me and sheran around the corner and hugged
me and just just this beautifulperson like inside out, and I
wasn't feeling so hot thatweren't either.
It just kind of icky with allmy detoxing going on and just so
(15:33):
.
Yes, i'm like sitting there andjust not feeling 100% and my
hair is not messy because it'sTexas and and she's just.
She looks to me, she says youare, your soul is so beautiful
and bright today, like thank youfor coming to see me today.
I'm like looking around, likeme, like the same thing.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I did earlier.
Am I really Yeah, and she?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
says you're a phoenix on fire.
She goes like phoenixes arecool and they're like on fire.
She's like, but no, like you'reon fire.
She says I can see that you'reon fire and I was like, okay,
and I'm like it's one of thosedays, right, we just are just
talking and she says did youhave a near-death experience?
And I was like, yeah, prettymuch like I was pretty much
(16:15):
almost dead.
I didn't like she goes you were.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Didn't call sober, But yeah yeah, yeah, and she
goes.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
No, she goes.
But you were there and itchanged you.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
She's like and you're , you're different now, you're
totally different now.
And she said So yeah, it waslike you know how I talk, i'm
just like all over the place areextra back and forth, back and
forth.
And so at some point mentionedmommy dying in November, and and
then we like come back aroundto the other conversation and
She says your mom was there.
(16:45):
She goes did you have like anexperience Like coming back?
I was like, yes, i did.
I was like it was amazing, likeand I'm like, i'm like telling
her bits and pieces of it.
And she goes your mom was therethe whole time and like her
hands were there.
Mm-hmm on you, mm-hmm, and shewants me to tell you that and
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she's like you, you're, you'redoing it.
You're doing exactly what youneed to be doing, really.
And I told her that becauseIt's dark around me, but not
like in a dark place.
I'm not in like a dark place,i'm just a little like I feel
lost, mm-hmm, because they don'tknow which direction I'm
supposed to be going.
Yeah, so I feel like I'm stuck.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I think you made it your head up to the water and
now you're just trying to figureout what shortest one to Yeah,
yeah, and that you're in theright spot and he's got you
right there.
And I feel like it's just keeplistening, just keep taking the
steps, because sometimes he willonly give you a step for right
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now, but you want to see the 10steps in front of you and you
want to see the end.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Because that's what my life has been as well, and
Adam and whatever we're dealingwith, yeah, You know, And Adam
and I have laughed about it.
It's like can you just give melike we look at him as stones
What's the first stone?
Can you give me two stones, twosteps ahead, not just one?
But when you do, he's there Andthen it just starts to flow And
(18:18):
I think that's what's happening.
And then there's also aspiritual battle.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
That's also going on All the time that are trying to
stop us.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I felt like last night I was attacked, which I
hadn't told any, obviouslyanybody.
This The only one that reallyknows is Isabelle, because she
was there.
But I've had experiences before, like when I was interviewing
Rich the night before hisinterview, i was in the kitchen
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And the lights on our vent forthe oven just start going off
and on it starts turning on andthe lights start turning.
I mean it's chaos, yeah, and itnever happens, but it's
happened one other time And Ifelt like it was spiritual
because there's nothing wrongwith it.
We've had it looked at and itworks.
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And then when I interview Rich,he tells me pretty much almost
the exact same story that hisbrother who had passed Terry,
was always messing with him Andhe would mess with them at their
house after he passed, whichwas awesome, because he's
telling me this And I'm likethis just happened to me last
(19:30):
night.
My two daughters were in thereAnd it kept happening And we
were trying to turn it off Andfinally I stood up and I looked
at it And I said watch this,sophia.
I said, in the name of Jesus,stop.
It turned off.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
All of it.
Yeah, i mean, it was so loudThe vent, the lights we kept
pushing the buttons, we'retrying to turn it off.
It wouldn't turn off And I saidthat and it stopped.
And the next day I'minterviewing Rich And he's
telling me all these things AndI'm like, well, i can tell you
he's here, because last nightthis is what happened to me And
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he was just like no way, and itwas such a great story, yeah.
And then last night I wassitting there cooking, making
the sauce.
I eat honey all the time, idon't have allergies like that,
whatever And I took a sip And mythroat closed up in
anaphylactic shock.
Oh my gosh And I thought I wasgoing to die.
(20:30):
And I grabbed Isabelle And Isqueezed her And I looked at her
And I heard calm down and takeyour breath.
And right, when I heard thewords and I went and relax, i
started to breathe.
It was the craziest thing,right, things like this happen
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to us all the time And somethings can be scary And I could
take it in a fear way, but Iknow that I'm protected.
Greater is he that is in me,that he is in the world.
I mean, i just know that.
And so this morning I was likeAll morning my whole body is
just like this, with energy andgoodness, but before, when I
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would feel that I didn't knowwhat that was.
Now I know the differencebetween anxiety and when the
Holy Spirit's about to dosomething really powerful, and
so I felt like that was justsomething you know right before
we do something spiritual or anevent or a study or anything
Chaos.
(21:40):
It stirs up chaos because it's aspiritual warfare, and are you
strong enough to recognize it?
Are you stupid enough to ignoreit and think that or be afraid
of it?
Because I was.
I don't want any part of that.
You're going to stir up a wholebunch of stuff And when you do,
you don't know what's going tohappen to you.
Well, i know what's going tohappen, because this is life.
(22:04):
Things happen.
But I know that God saved my sonfrom being killed by getting
hit by a car.
Yeah, and he wasn't in a car.
He ran towards the car and didthirty five hundred dollars
worth of damage.
He should have been dead.
There was a boy that did it thenight before, and a boy that
did it the night before becausebecause the detective told us
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And he said I just want you toknow, this is my third night,
same situation, same highway,same scenario, and your son
lived.
So nobody, nobody was therethat I can explain the story to,
because they don't know themagnitude of it.
Yeah, yeah, he shouldn't havelived, but I know that my God is
(22:45):
greater and I don't want tocome across and say because he
could have died and that couldhave been his time and there was
a reason and a purpose for it.
Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, wow Oh wow, that's so crazy.
It's hard And what?
and sometimes I feel like hehad to have known.
You know, the detective had tohave known that something more,
oh, he did.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
He told us Yeah, yeah , like there's on the phone with
me for two hours And he's fromwhen I I mean we were on the
phone for days because it wasvery complicated.
Miles has schizophrenia and hethought that he was being chased
by 30 cars that were trying tokill us and then was trying to
kill him And so he thought hewas saving our lives, and how
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many.
And here's the other thing thatI feel like.
One of the reasons why I feelit's so important to tell this
story is because there's a lotof parents out there that did
lose their son to the same exactthing Yeah, mental illness
Doing.
I know someone that their sonjust ran out.
He snapped at a party, 18 yearsold, and he just started
(23:54):
running.
Well, he didn't know where hewas running.
Well, he ran out in the middleof the highway and got hit by 18
wheeler.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
He didn't know.
Yeah, and those stories I findare more common than the ones
that are.
I just didn't want to liveanymore.
You bet There are those, yeah,but for you to want to kill
yourself, there's somethingwrong mentally, whether they're
seeing things or hearing things,or depression is a mental
(24:24):
illness.
It really is.
So that's why I feel like I gotto tell that story.
There's a mom out there that isthinking that she did a bad job
.
She didn't do enough.
You know, if she would havedone this, if she would have
done that, he'd still be here.
And she didn't know that he hada mental illness, right?
(24:44):
Yeah, and I don't want thatperson to live the rest of their
life believing that lie.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Amen, yeah, 100% Wow.
Okay.
so, besides, one of the thingsI wanted to ask you is you're a
healer.
I mean, besides, spiritualhealings that you do and your
tinctures and your food as yourmedicine and all that.
I know the things that you do,but I want you to say what some
of the things that you've doneand seen?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I was actually just going through a memory the other
day and my mom used to alwayscall me the little nurse because
when we were at the orphanagepeople, you know someone would
be sick or something and go over.
You know, as a child you werelike, oh, let me take care of
you.
You know and you know like patyour head and I'm gonna check
your heart and like the wholething because you just so and
(00:43):
then.
But like it continued like thiswhole like obsession with
wanting to make you better andlike food is your medicine 100%
And I always had like this lovefor the kitchen and making sure
that what you're putting in yourbody is going to make you
better.
So like when people are sick,like I make a bone broth in the
house and during the time ofyear when the flu is really bad,
(01:06):
like we do that and I make firecider on a regular basis.
So you know, and the littleboys know from a young age we do
like the shot game.
So I turn, like turn them intolittle baby frat boys because
they, i like I make the firecider which is like really
potent.
It's apple cider, vinegar andonions and garlic and jalapenos
(01:26):
and horseradish and ginger andturmeric and more hot things,
like if you can find more youknow types of peppers and it
just sits and sits and sits andcooks for like six weeks.
Oh wow, In the dark, then youstrain it and that should have
last forever, but you want touse it as much as possible
because it is You don't want tokiss anybody after you drink
that.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh my God, now like you, just go brush your teeth
after that.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It's bad And I call it dragon's breath, like that's
the name of it because they werelittle, you know, and I'm
trying to make it fun for them.
So we would line up little shotglasses of you know our fire
cider or dragon's breath And I'dbe like, all right, guys, let's
do this.
And they're like oh no.
And I'm like I bet you can't doit the fastest You know, like
(02:11):
trying to get them to do it.
It's like shot shot, shot, shot.
So they'd say to her like ready, you go, you go, you go, go go,
and they'd like chug it as fastas they could.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
And I don't sip on it .
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It'll take you all day.
I'm like, just get it done.
And they're like, ah, like itsmells awful.
And then they never got the flu.
It's just ever Ever.
Like my people never get theflu.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That's amazing Ever.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So that's just like one of the things that we love
Include in your life, yeah.
So they know they know like mom, stuff might be really bad
tasting but it's going to beamazing, yeah.
And then it was as far as likekitchen food and thing like that
.
You know, obviously it's goingto taste way better and a lot of
blood and stuff, but yeah, soit's just always been like this
(02:54):
thing of wanting to, you know,make life better and healthier
in that way.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So even when you were a young age and you were at the
orphanage or wherever you weretraveling around in Mexico,
where else did you guys go?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So we were, yeah we were just in Mexico Two
different times or three becausewe were in the mountains, And
then eventually we went backhome to San Antonio and then we
stayed stateside for a couple oftimes and then we went back to
do a church plant.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I say we I was like four Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I was, but crazy stuff that happened, and we can
definitely talk about this someother time if you want to too.
I love it.
I can come back and talk aboutall the crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Bring it on, man, i want it That we saw.
That's what I want.
Yeah, bring it That we saw.
Give me one In that Right now.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
So there it was like.
so we were living in agovernor's mansion in the.
this is what the orphanage was,So the government had given
this over to the state so thatit could be an orphan house,
right?
So it was an old governor'smansion which is like and then a
lot of the houses in Mexico arelike the Hacienda style, so
like it wrapped around thecourtyard and the pool in the
(04:06):
middle.
So it was just really, you know,large corridors and long
hallways, right, and then we hadthis beautiful dining room that
we would eat in, like in thefloors, of course, were probably
like Saltillo tile.
I just they're definitely tile.
I'm just assuming they'reSaltillo tile because that's
what.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
that's what we did.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, that's normally what we built, They built
things in.
So we have these big tables andchairs and everything And this
was it had it had to have beenlike some portal.
that and I talk about all thetime because there was so much
spiritual activity in this place, Both good and bad It was
(04:44):
ridiculous, like evil and goodright It's.
it wasn't just like a ton ofdemonic activity.
There was tons of angels likewe'd see them all the time just
moving through and like themiracles that would happen in
things.
So it's just like you got tojust take the good with the bad.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
You know what I mean.
I'm, it's one of those, it's aspiritual you better all the
time.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, so we're asleep one night and Hear all this
banging, like chairs beingthrown and moved and banging,
and just all this shit happening.
It's crazy loud, loud, loudbecause it's it's like there
wasn't a lot of things to likesoundproof.
You know, a dining hall, it'sjust fucking table with a bunch
(05:23):
of chairs.
Yeah, on that tile, yeah, on thetile and so it's very the
acoustics are really like greatin there.
So you hear all this noise andit just it startles us right.
So I stay and dad goes into thekitchen and what he sees is the
chairs are everywhere, thetables turned, and Everything's
open and toss up it.
So it's totally like a horrormovie.
(05:44):
You know like you're like, youwalk into the room and you're
like, and everything's tossedright and He just kind of starts
praying.
He's just praying like okay,father, like you have us here,
you want us here for a reasonjust keep us all safe, keep our
family safe, and Whatever isn'tof you like it needs to go.
(06:05):
So like simple prayers likethat, right where That's just
and that's like the normalprayer is father, i am where I'm
supposed to be.
So you're here, holy Spirit,you're here, and whatever is in
of you doesn't belong.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
That's right Like let it go right now Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I don't want it here.
clear it, yeah, clear it out.
So He, like he puts it all backtogether and then go back to
sleep and then it does it again,whatever it was, and it's just
one of those disruptive thingslike they just want you to
engage, they want your attention, and it's so.
He like he didn't play the game.
You know he's like to make themess.
(06:43):
We're just gonna go to sleep,right.
Well, there were more menleveled at, ones that wanted
other things, and so It got tobe kind of scary sometimes.
And I remember running down thehall, like I was running on the
hallway to my mom on the otherside, and I saw something like
in front of me and like kind oflike startled me, i stopped.
(07:04):
Yeah, it was something and mymom's like come on, come on,
come on, you know we gotta go.
So I like keep running and asI'm walking, like my body goes
flying, like I literally liketrip over this huge something,
nothing, and my body goes flyingacross and My mom was like she
saw it and then she was likecome on, like let's go, and
she's like running to me.
(07:24):
I'm running to her, and did shesee it?
Yeah, okay, so you both saw,yeah, yeah, and I didn't know
what it was.
You know, i was just like Idon't know.
Like as a child, i feel likeyou see all the things and you
don't know you know, until itdoes something.
So it was, and then at thatpoint, like ever since that
point I had there's like I'llhave, like the one that stands
(07:46):
by my bed scares the shit out ofme and I wake up or it's
literally like on top of me andI can't move and I can't breathe
, and so there's those that comeback a lot, you know.
And since we've been in thishouse, now that we're at
Missouri, i told her I was likeI feel like this is a portal
because we're seeing both in ourhouse, we're seeing.
I can see angels and Jariah'stalking to him and hanging out
(08:07):
with him in his room and withhis whole being on the spectrum.
He's like hyper sensitive tospiritual activity.
So you like, i love watchinghim watch everything around us,
because that's the mostbeautiful thing is just to know
that this little magical baby islike extra spiritual and he's
beyond like this little body youknow what I mean.
(08:29):
Like, and it's okay if he's nonverbal, you know, it's okay
because he has a completelydifferent language.
She is made perfect in thisspiritual world.
That's just he's so brilliant.
So, yeah, so we're seeing a lotof both.
And I feel like I was tellingJosh the previous owner, she was
on her deathbed, also in ourroom No, really, yeah, did she
(08:53):
live?
She lived, and it was a hardrecovery for her too.
Oh my gosh.
And I, yeah, and I told Josh Iwas like I really feel like
there is something here.
It's not the only thing that'shere.
I feel like there's somethinghere that doesn't like women,
like it has like a vendettaagainst women, and so it's like
it's literally trying to kill usbecause we're the only two
(09:13):
women and everybody else is 100%healthy.
Nobody else in my family gotsick.
Nobody got anything.
Nobody got COVID, nobody gotpneumonia, nobody got.
None of them have had any ofthose things.
Wow, and I'm the only one that'slike literally dying on the bed
, like it was crazy.
And people will come over Likehave people visit and stuff.
And of course you know weattract amazing people.
(09:35):
So like all my people are veryspiritual people and they see
things right.
So one of them she was stayingin Dasha's room.
It's downstairs And Dasha waslike Dasha's room is bigger than
mine, it's this adorable suite.
Like he can fit a huge couch inthere and his bed and his
bathroom by himself, like henever has to leave.
It's crazy cozy, it's so cool.
(09:55):
So she's staying in his roomand I guess he was out of town
or something So she can lay inthe.
she was laying in the bed andthe stairs are here.
So you walk down the stairs andthen there's a huge living room
dead down here And then Dasha'sroom is way over here on that
side.
So right here And this is wherea lot of the activities
happening is right at the baseof the stairs, like if we're
talking spiritual stuff, when Iwent down to the stairs and it
(10:16):
hit me and I'm like I can't goback up the stairs, like that's
where all that happens, right,so it very well could have been
way more spiritual than I evergive it credit for.
You know what I mean?
The whole me thing.
So she's laying in the bed andher head is turned sideways
looking, and she sees an entityand it's not a good one, because
she's like it tells you what itis.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Well, i think you feel it.
Yeah, it's a knowing, it's aclear cognizance, it's a knowing
.
So she was like fuck this.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, she closes the door, locks it and then she like
sages the shit out of that roomAnd that room.
I've been cleansing that roomover and over and over again
because the previous owner'sfather died in that room.
Okay So, and she was very openabout it, like we talked to some
of she's like yeah, i blessedit, it's fine, i opened the
(11:09):
window like the whole, likesuperstition of, like letting
the spirit go, like the wholething Right.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
She's like so it's been cleansed and blessed, and I
go, okay, yeah, i appreciatethat.
And then I go back and I'mdoing it all the time anyways,
because, regardless of himpassing, there's a ton of
activity that happens.
So she's, she's saged, she'slike I'm saging, saging, and
then she like goes to sleepfacing the door and you know,
and she didn't see it againBefore that, after I was sick,
(11:36):
leslie and Mary came to see meand Mary is a Reiki master and
the aligning of the chakra, butit's something similar like
seeing things too, right, so shesees a lot of stuff too.
So she was over at the houseand she was like, huh, she goes.
So I just saw somebodydownstairs And I was like
(11:56):
different person, differentperson completely.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, and she says they don't know each other.
Yeah, these two people, becausethe other person that's had saw
it Vanessa.
Yeah, she they don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
They've never met before.
They've never met before.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
No, no, and this is your Texas friends that came up
to visit you.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Well, vanessa's in Washington now.
So, like they're, they've nevercrossed paths And Vanessa
wasn't really at one point.
Yeah, and this is after I gotback from the hospital.
So this is before Vanessa Marysaw this person, okay, and she
says she's like this is moreprotective, though what I saw,
like I didn't feel any fear.
I felt like this we'll call ita being was there on a
(12:35):
protective mission, like kind ofjust overseeing everything to
make sure everything's okay,like there was like a calming
sense that she got from that,because there's another story I
need to tell you about.
Bring it That too.
But anyways, really quick, justto wrap up the whole cleansing
thing.
Yeah, that That's something wedo regularly, like I because of
(12:57):
my herbalism and stuff.
like I love to infuse oil, so Iinfuse my own frankincense oil
and I anoint it, so I like,literally, i have some in the
car for you.
I literally like walk aroundwith my own anointing oil, you
know and it's so cool because,out of the blue, i'll run into a
situation where I'm like and Ineed to go bless that place with
my anointing oil.
(13:17):
Like you know, it's just it'sit's really cool.
So I regularly like pray overall my doorways, pray over all
my windows and Sage everything.
Well, i'm sorry, i say sage, iuse Palo Santo.
I love policy and they're bothvery similar to each other in
what they're in their propertiesbecause, like your actual, like
(13:39):
herbal Properties, that theymedicinal properties.
That they do is, when you burnthe Palo Santo or the sage, it
Literally cleanses the air.
Cleanses the air, so it'seating up anything that you know
little micro Organisms that arethere that are bad for the air,
and it purifies the air So it'sso it's meant to do that.
(13:59):
It is it's so?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
beautiful And there's .
I know there was like a PaloSanto is also used in for
blessing as well.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Mm-hmm, yeah, absolutely and it, yeah, so like
it's spiritual benefit would be, or metaphysical, like have
whatever word you want to useIt's very, it's a blessing, it's
this you know, opens up to likebeautiful things to happen
around you it's just reallypretty, and This, like a side
note on it, is that they wereendangered for a while in
(14:27):
Ecuador, the Palo Santo trees,because everybody was using them
.
Oh, my god resource.
So just you know, noweverything's back to.
It's okay now.
They've known how to likeethically.
Yeah resource it and Whatever.
So just make sure you like,when you're getting it, that
you're getting it from like asound place, you know, yeah, to
be safe and keep the trees going.
(14:48):
You know, like, keep the treesalive, we need them.
As I'm kind of like walkingThrough this week to get to you,
right, i have, like you know,i'm getting ready for the day
and I'm kind of like buzzingaround Wimberley, you know, like
my old stomping ground, and goand like I feel I felt like
wherever I was, that's where Iwas supposed to be like, and
just magical, beautiful peoplekeep just kept falling in front
(15:09):
of me.
Yeah, it was the coolest day.
So I'm sitting down atcommunity pizza and I ran into
one of my old girlfriend'sdaughters I've like got to
engage and she saw me and sheran around the corner and hugged
me and just just this beautifulperson like inside out, and I
wasn't feeling so hot thatweren't either.
It just kind of icky with allmy detoxing going on and just so
(15:33):
.
Yes, i'm like sitting there andjust not feeling 100% and my
hair is not messy because it'sTexas and and she's just.
She looks to me, she says youare, your soul is so beautiful
and bright today, like thank youfor coming to see me today.
I'm like looking around, likeme, like the same thing.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I did earlier.
Am I really Yeah, and she?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
says you're a phoenix on fire.
She goes like phoenixes arecool and they're like on fire.
She's like, but no, like you'reon fire.
She says I can see that you'reon fire and I was like, okay,
and I'm like it's one of thosedays, right, we just are just
talking and she says did youhave a near-death experience?
And I was like, yeah, prettymuch like I was pretty much
(16:15):
almost dead.
I didn't like she goes you were.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Didn't call sober, But yeah yeah, yeah, and she
goes.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
No, she goes.
But you were there and itchanged you.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
She's like and you're , you're different now, you're
totally different now.
And she said So yeah, it waslike you know how I talk, i'm
just like all over the place areextra back and forth, back and
forth.
And so at some point mentionedmommy dying in November, and and
then we like come back aroundto the other conversation and
She says your mom was there.
(16:45):
She goes did you have like anexperience Like coming back?
I was like, yes, i did.
I was like it was amazing, likeand I'm like, i'm like telling
her bits and pieces of it.
And she goes your mom was therethe whole time and like her
hands were there.
Mm-hmm on you, mm-hmm, and shewants me to tell you that and
(17:05):
she's like you, you're, you'redoing it.
You're doing exactly what youneed to be doing, really.
And I told her that becauseIt's dark around me, but not
like in a dark place.
I'm not in like a dark place,i'm just a little like I feel
lost, mm-hmm, because they don'tknow which direction I'm
supposed to be going.
Yeah, so I feel like I'm stuck.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I think you made it your head up to the water and
now you're just trying to figureout what shortest one to Yeah,
yeah, and that you're in theright spot and he's got you
right there.
And I feel like it's just keeplistening, just keep taking the
steps, because sometimes he willonly give you a step for right
(17:46):
now, but you want to see the 10steps in front of you and you
want to see the end.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Because that's what my life has been as well, and
Adam and whatever we're dealingwith, yeah, You know, And Adam
and I have laughed about it.
It's like can you just give melike we look at him as stones
What's the first stone?
Can you give me two stones, twosteps ahead, not just one?
But when you do, he's there Andthen it just starts to flow And
(18:18):
I think that's what's happening.
And then there's also aspiritual battle.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
That's also going on All the time that are trying to
stop us.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I felt like last night I was attacked, which I
hadn't told any, obviouslyanybody.
This The only one that reallyknows is Isabelle, because she
was there.
But I've had experiences before, like when I was interviewing
Rich the night before hisinterview, i was in the kitchen
(18:47):
And the lights on our vent forthe oven just start going off
and on it starts turning on andthe lights start turning.
I mean it's chaos, yeah, and itnever happens, but it's
happened one other time And Ifelt like it was spiritual
because there's nothing wrongwith it.
We've had it looked at and itworks.
(19:09):
And then when I interview Rich,he tells me pretty much almost
the exact same story that hisbrother who had passed Terry,
was always messing with him Andhe would mess with them at their
house after he passed, whichwas awesome, because he's
telling me this And I'm likethis just happened to me last
(19:30):
night.
My two daughters were in thereAnd it kept happening And we
were trying to turn it off Andfinally I stood up and I looked
at it And I said watch this,sophia.
I said, in the name of Jesus,stop.
It turned off.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
All of it.
Yeah, i mean, it was so loudThe vent, the lights we kept
pushing the buttons, we'retrying to turn it off.
It wouldn't turn off And I saidthat and it stopped.
And the next day I'minterviewing Rich And he's
telling me all these things AndI'm like, well, i can tell you
he's here, because last nightthis is what happened to me And
(20:09):
he was just like no way, and itwas such a great story, yeah.
And then last night I wassitting there cooking, making
the sauce.
I eat honey all the time, idon't have allergies like that,
whatever And I took a sip And mythroat closed up in
anaphylactic shock.
Oh my gosh And I thought I wasgoing to die.
(20:30):
And I grabbed Isabelle And Isqueezed her And I looked at her
And I heard calm down and takeyour breath.
And right, when I heard thewords and I went and relax, i
started to breathe.
It was the craziest thing,right, things like this happen
(20:56):
to us all the time And somethings can be scary And I could
take it in a fear way, but Iknow that I'm protected.
Greater is he that is in me,that he is in the world.
I mean, i just know that.
And so this morning I was likeAll morning my whole body is
just like this, with energy andgoodness, but before, when I
(21:20):
would feel that I didn't knowwhat that was.
Now I know the differencebetween anxiety and when the
Holy Spirit's about to dosomething really powerful, and
so I felt like that was justsomething you know right before
we do something spiritual or anevent or a study or anything
Chaos.
(21:40):
It stirs up chaos because it's aspiritual warfare, and are you
strong enough to recognize it?
Are you stupid enough to ignoreit and think that or be afraid
of it?
Because I was.
I don't want any part of that.
You're going to stir up a wholebunch of stuff And when you do,
you don't know what's going tohappen to you.
Well, i know what's going tohappen, because this is life.
(22:04):
Things happen.
But I know that God saved my sonfrom being killed by getting
hit by a car.
Yeah, and he wasn't in a car.
He ran towards the car and didthirty five hundred dollars
worth of damage.
He should have been dead.
There was a boy that did it thenight before, and a boy that
did it the night before becausebecause the detective told us
(22:24):
And he said I just want you toknow, this is my third night,
same situation, same highway,same scenario, and your son
lived.
So nobody, nobody was therethat I can explain the story to,
because they don't know themagnitude of it.
Yeah, yeah, he shouldn't havelived, but I know that my God is
(22:45):
greater and I don't want tocome across and say because he
could have died and that couldhave been his time and there was
a reason and a purpose for it.
Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, wow Oh wow, that's so crazy.
It's hard And what?
and sometimes I feel like hehad to have known.
You know, the detective had tohave known that something more,
oh, he did.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
He told us Yeah, yeah , like there's on the phone with
me for two hours And he's fromwhen I I mean we were on the
phone for days because it wasvery complicated.
Miles has schizophrenia and hethought that he was being chased
by 30 cars that were trying tokill us and then was trying to
kill him And so he thought hewas saving our lives, and how
(23:33):
many.
And here's the other thing thatI feel like.
One of the reasons why I feelit's so important to tell this
story is because there's a lotof parents out there that did
lose their son to the same exactthing Yeah, mental illness
Doing.
I know someone that their sonjust ran out.
He snapped at a party, 18 yearsold, and he just started
(23:54):
running.
Well, he didn't know where hewas running.
Well, he ran out in the middleof the highway and got hit by 18
wheeler.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
He didn't know.
Yeah, and those stories I findare more common than the ones
that are.
I just didn't want to liveanymore.
You bet There are those, yeah,but for you to want to kill
yourself, there's somethingwrong mentally, whether they're
seeing things or hearing things,or depression is a mental
(24:24):
illness.
It really is.
So that's why I feel like I gotto tell that story.
There's a mom out there that isthinking that she did a bad job
.
She didn't do enough.
You know, if she would havedone this, if she would have
done that, he'd still be here.
And she didn't know that he hada mental illness, right?
(24:44):
Yeah, and I don't want thatperson to live the rest of their
life believing that lie.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Amen, yeah, 100% Wow.
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