September 9, 2024 • 47 mins
Sometimes I have to work really hard to write the titles - not this time. John takes Aaron and Producer Sean through the grisly history of the Guillotine. You certainly don't want to be from the French high society this week.
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Humansover the course of history
have come up with some ingeniousor some might say,
dastardly waysof executing prisoners.
With some examplesincluding boiling,
drawn and quartering,burning and modern day methods
such as electrocution, firingsquad and lethal injection.
But one of the most famousand probably quickest methods
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used was that of beheadingby guillotine.
Awww sacrebleu!
Which is what we're looking aton this episode,
which is the 47th anniversaryof the last time it was used.
Welcome to a morbid, cheekyTales.
Cordon Bleu.
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47 years.
Is that it?
That's it.That's it. That feels like.
It's not a long time.That doesn't. Feel right.
That means it'll be in, like,the 80s.
Yeah. Yeah, we'll get to it.
Oh, no. No, no, to be, like, 70.
I played this game of how long?40 years ago is.
Because then all of a suddenit's like, oh, great.
Grand Theft
Auto Vice City is closer towhen it was set than it is now.
Oh that's right. Yeah it is. I.
(01:10):
Yeah, I hate it.I feel like he's heard that,
this week.
It comesup a lot in the barbershop.
So let's, let's not.
Talk about that quickly.Before we start.
Welcome back.
We're back.
He's back.
Let's not bore. Can we.
Can we continue a discussion?
We started last episode.
(01:31):
Oh, yeah. Of course. Again.
So, taquitos.
I got some new audio equipment.It's fantastic.
I got a new headphone amp.
I'm the only onewith over a year.
I've got in-ear monitors, lovelynew ones.
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It's mainly for my other job.You know, it's lovely.
And I've got. Stufffor you to you.
(01:52):
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Right. I'm gonna have a drink.
I got this great Bluetooth pageturning thing, and guess what?
All of it works.
All of it works out on Apple,and it's amazing.
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Why are we using this?Come out to one?
Because Kimetsu is the favorite
earthmovingcompany of Cheeky Tail.
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Where's our know? Where'sour cheeky tail? Stubby coolers.
Do you know what these ones arejust really good for a stubby.
That's why
I'm getting ones if I can.
He's deflecting.He's deflecting.
Hey, buddy,I'm on my cheeky tails.
One back has my name on it.
Aaron, can we have an updateon the PC, please?
Which pc?
The one he's building.
(02:32):
Which oneare the very responsive one.
We're not using?
We're not using the new one.
Because, the part that broke.
I asked the company to send me
a replacement,and I were like, yeah, sure.
And they sent methe wrong one. So.
That took.
It broke on the Saturday,the following Thursday.
(02:54):
So not the next Thursday.
The following Thursday,
I received, the new parts,and they were the wrong ones.
So now I'm in contact
with two companiestrying to get the correct parts.
And still do not have to do.
Is it just the screwsthat hold the thing in?
Dude,go to the nut and bolt factory
at Will and Gabba and say,I need this thread.
It needs to be this longand that will go okay.
(03:17):
And they will get it to you.
They like it's a spacer.
So it's got threadon both sides,
different kinds of thread,different lengths
I probably will.
Yeah. Yeah probably.
Well they might.
Yeah I can take Barton.
Yeah. Cool.
I might have to go there. Yeah.
So how long.
Bolt factory Woolloongabbasince.
You purchased the graphics card.
(03:37):
So todayis the 7th of September. Yes.
And I purchasedthe graphics card,
which is the first part ofthe upgrade on the 22nd of July.
Okay.
So, yeah,people will be listening
to thison the 10th of September. Yeah.
If you release day.
So it'sbeen close to two months.
I'm apparently salty.
(03:57):
Yeah. What's what's it doing?
Me yeah, yeah,we were out cycling before
this morning.
DNA like it's an ice creamon a 40 degree day.
Yeah. So,yeah. No, no new PC. No.
You still hasn'thad any power on through.
It has not been booted upat all. Nope. Yeah.
Now do you thinkthat would be it?
(04:17):
Wouldn'tyou know, it's not at all right.
Why would it be it.
How did you go with your thirdPC build
that you told me the other day
that you were going to do. Itokay.
So you making it soundlike I purchased more parts?
I did not.
I had an old spare computerfrom the office
that they were just checking outthat I got four years ago,
and I at the time, I was like,I'll turn it into a media PC.
(04:39):
And then that became irrelevantwith Chromecast and Google
TV and such.
So I went,
you know what,I'll leave this thing
alight and I'm goingto turn it into a ghetto ness.
So I just like a big hard drive
that I can access from anywhere.
And I have not purchasedanything, but it is working.
That was a successful rebuild.
(05:00):
So how many pieces do you havein this house at the moment for
plus laptops?
Two ofthem were free from how many?
Okay into.
(05:26):
Do we say anymore?
Aaron's computer manufacturedAaron surplus computer supplies.
Yeah. If you want some old.
Broken bases or brand new PC.
He's never been turned on.
Oh my God.
Yes. I'm not having a good run.
Cordon bleu, cordon bleu?
(05:46):
More fund topping.
Everyone can join in.
NFL season has started in NFLseason.
Is he, Aaron'swearing his Buccaneers hat.
Tampa Bay baby. Off.
I got too distracted gettingchips and forgot to get chips.
Yeah, I got chipsinstead of Bucs gear.
I've got tigers on my shirtbecause you. Two.
Cincinnati Bengals.
Bengals fans and gals,
(06:08):
yes, Joe Burrow willhopefully have a good season
and won't hurt himself.
At the moment.
There's a bit.All right. Hey Packers.
Well there's an issueat the moment
because they're having
a contract dispute withthe marquee wide receiver okay.
Not team Jamaar Chase.
It's week one. He'squestionable.
He's on my fantasy team.
And I don't know if he's playingbecause
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I haven't given him a contract.
It's week one of the season.
Get that get that stuff sorted.Yeah.
Let's just said.
The wrong way. I have to check.
Please remind me tomorrow nightbefore I go to bed.
I need to checkif he's playing or not because.
Fantastic openinggame of the season.
Yeah.
Absolutely brilliant.
Came down to the last play. Yep.
It shouldn'thave come down on the last play,
(06:50):
but Lamar Jackson just chokedquite a few times.
He threw an absolute.
Rubbish dummy of a ball.
And just had a wide openreceiver in the end zone,
and they throw it to the left.
Yeah, I was tracking the scorebetween the Packers and the
Jets that day.
Yep. That was also quitea good game.
It's a very high scoring gameafter
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I think the eagle startedvery slightly.
My quarterback was onnegative points with a fumble
and an interception. Yeah.
Anyway yeah.
So so when we're recording,we could either be upset
or very happy, depending on.
The whole demeanor.
Is determinedby 22 million is. Yes.
If a fantasy is looking goodthough.
(07:31):
So yeah, we've got six playersnow I see it.
Yeah.
Because I was looking good
before you change the pointsand they're terrible.
I told you he'd bring this up.
Oh wait I added points.
I didn't subtract anything.
Y'all players did shit.
No, this was in the predicted
for everyonebecause I never more.
You picked playersbased on their predicted
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point scoring, didn't you?
That wasone of the keys to this.
Research.
The weekone points never add up.
Lamar Jackson scored 3040 pointsmore than is pretty good.
Patrick Mahomes scored 20 pointsless than his predicted.
Imagine if you had Aaron Rodgerson your team last year.
The running back for the Eaglesscored very well too.
(08:13):
Did Saquon Barkley. Saquon.
Travis Kelsey did not.Yeah yeah.
See that's the other thing.Is that the person you acquired.
Taylor Swift, the.
Fact the person you were playingagainst had Saquon Barkley.
And that doesn't contribute.
That doesn't contributegood to you.
And TravisKelsey didn't do diddly.
But tight ends don't often getus a great deal in our fantasy.
(08:34):
Oh they do fantastic.
Yeah.
It's either gigantic ginormousnumbers or they get two points.
Blondie Tyler hold on Blair,I am happy with my backup QB.
I'm interestedto see how he goes.
He brings. You backupQB. C.J. straight up.
Oh, okay. Texans.
I'm thinking of it
now that 50% of our fantasyleague is in this room.
I'm thinking about adding,adding in.
(08:55):
And then you put it to the vote.
And new thing for next year.
Okay, one mandatory rookie okay.
So what is the gowith the rookies.
Because I'm sayingyou could pick some.
Do they get like double pointsor something.
No. It was just that they don'thave any predicted stat lines
because they haven'tplayed a season yet.
That'swhy they're in their own tabs.
I do have a rookie. Yeah,so I do I do you have a.
I do know I don't have a rookie.
(09:16):
Mandatory rookie and
I don't know not on the bench
like mine's on the benchat the moment, which is fine
because he's a quarterback andI've already got a quarterback.
But I'd put Caleb Williamsin my starting lineup.
I, I went with the ultimate,
the ultimate rookiemove and chose Aaron Rodgers.
Yeah. That wasn't. Was Mr..
For snaps. Mr..
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Not a pass.
Yeah, yeah I didsay you pick Rodgers. Yep.
Because he could statisticallyhave a huge season.
So let's see.
Anyway,
most of our fans would love totalk about NFL all day I'm sure.
Well, maybe if we got sponsoredby Underdog Fantasy,
then we could set up an underdogfantasy league
and our listenerscould join in with us.
We could?
Yeah. If you want to joinour fantasy league.
(09:59):
Yeah, if you want to.
Or honestly,
if you want to join the fantasyleague next season,
there's no buy in.
We don't do it for money becauseChiquito is anti-gambling.
I would
I we heardthis catch on the show confuses.
I would love itif race was in it Mr. UK.
All right.
That reminds me.
Have to ship the the jacket.
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Over there.
That.
No, no
we'll have a fans and us leagueand then we have our personally
because the jacket doing it allfor the jacket.
That's our own thing. Yeah.
I'm not shipping that jacketanyway.
That does remind me.
Yeah I don't know
if you're sayingthe analytics during the week
we would have got a listenerfrom Wales.
Oh Wales.
So shout out to Fallen Helix.
(10:40):
Cool fallen helix.
Thank you for listening.What platform?
Spotify YouTube.
YouTube rank each. Yeah.
Don't get me.
Don't get as detailed.A breakdown on YouTube.
What episode did he listen to?
He said he hasn't listened to
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Have seen him in the analytics?Because he was. He's.
I'm subscribed on YouTube.
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You don't see subscriberlocations.
You see.
Listen to local.
I don't knowwhat I'm talking about.
Is he just. Interactingwith people?
John's in the. Comments, John.
He's just we were chattingand I said, I've got this thing.
So subscribe.
He's been puttinghis personal number
in the metadata of everything.
Just so people can find me.
All right, so tell me, Tee.
Higgins will.
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Do good tea.
I don't have to, Higgins. I do.
I thought he took the.
You know. I took him.
Anyway.
The history of the guillotineor team with the head.
Oh, we'll get the.
We will get there.
So do you sayguillotine or guillotine?
You can.
I think it's.
You take a wanker.You up according.
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To the pronunciation on here
it says it's guillotine.
It's,
The guillotine.
Yeah. So you.
Phonetically g h l upsidedown at a n.
T guillotine
Michael Jackson's.
But these. Guillotine.
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You may think it originatedin France.
Well, the word did,but the upper ranks
had its roots across Europe,Europe, Europe, Europe, Europe.
As early as 1280.
The Halifax Gibbet from England
is believed to bethe ancestor to the guillotine,
a wooden structurewith two uprights
and a horizontal beamand attached to the beam.
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It's 3.5 kilo. Accursed.
Sheesh.
Irelandalso had a similar contraption
dating back to the early 1300sin Scotland.
Had the maidenconstructed in 1564.
One of the people executed by
the maiden was JamesDouglas, fourth Earl of Morton.
In 1581
you got your Scottish historyshowing you the fourth Earl
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of Morton,
James Douglas.
Yeah, the fourth element in,
Scottish Governmentplay a leading role
in the murders of the QueenMary's confidante, David Rizzio.
It's most Scottish nameI've ever heard.
Rizzio and the king consort,Henry Darnley.
He was the last
of the four regents of Scotland
during the minority of Jamesthe Six,
some waysthe most successful of the four
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since he won the Civil War
that have been draggingwith the supporters
of the exiled Mary,Queen of Scots.
So the Earl of.
Morton don't do well.
A couple yearsafter his demise in 1644,
a publication beginsspreading the legend
that James himselfhad commissioned the maiden.
After seeing the Halifaxgive it right,
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so it says that he commissionedit, and then in 1581 he was
by thegibbet, by the maiden, sorry.
The fourth Earl of Morton's
townhouse is now a backpackershostel in Edinburgh.
Interesting remembering,of course, that
and everything inEdinburgh is very old.
So you can check that out,
because if you happen to betraveling through Scotland,
you can stopat the National Museum
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of Scotland in Edinburgh
and see the original maidenwhich is on display there.
Also stop in at.
At the fourth Earl Morton'stownhouse house,
now Backpackers hostel.
Pick up somesome some infections
that if I take a small step,check it out, says double top.
Oh jeez, maybe.
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But this device,
this device we're talking about
recentlywas made infamous by the French.
Yeah. Yep.
Really?
How did it originate? There?
I don't know, how did it.
Have a short break.
Well, these people may laugh.
Laugh at this at least.
(14:38):
You like that show?
For ideas of.
I think show and likes that.
He's gone.
Sean wants to trade it likeasbestos and bubble wrap it. Oh.
Bullshit.
Rafael, you're really.
(15:01):
Oh, that's just too darn good.
Okay.
All right,all right, I'm back. I'm good.
You continue.
We're good.
We're in the 30s.
So how did the made infamousby the French.
How did originate in France?
Well, a long time.
A man called Joseph Ignace.
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Guillotine.
Guillotine. Yes.
He was againstcapital punishment
but in failing to abolish itinstead of a compromise
that all capital punishmenttakes the form of decapitation
by means of simple mechanism.
That was his kind of compromise.
He didn't want.
Well if we have to kill them.
(15:42):
Yeah, yeah.
He's goal was to make capitalpunishment painless,
quick and equalto all classes of men and women.
So. Well, good. Jobhe did. That. Yeah.
So for lower class citizens
before the guillotine,hanging was used
and not the type wherethe drop would break the neck.
This is the one that would leavethe condemned
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hanging forminutes as they asphyxiated.
No, thanks.
As well, burning at the stakewas used.
Death by boiling dismembermentand the breaking wheel.
Yeah, the breaking wheels. Yeah.
I'm reading about the breaking.Well, how.
Does the breaking will work?
Oh, tell the cheeky listeners.
The breaking wheel, also knownas the execution wheel.
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The wheel of Catherineor Saint Catherine's
Wheel, was a torturemethod used.
Used for public execution,primarily in Europe
from antiquitythrough to the Middle Ages
up to the 19th century,
by breaking the bonesof a criminal
or bludgeoning them to death.
The practice was abolishedin Bavaria in 1813.
So the way it.
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Worked, I got strappedover the wheel on their back.
Hands and feet were tied down.
Right. It's kind of odd.
There's athere is a really good diagram.
Of them to a wagon and thenbroke every bone in the body.
That's pretty much it.
As a curse.
The picture is the crucifixion.
Yeah.
I thought they were likeon the wheel,
on their backwardsand they were pulled over.
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The wheel was alreadystraining up.
So it's actually really awful.
Perhaps a rectangleon the primary goal.
The first act was agonizingmutilation of the body,
not death.
Therefore,the most common form would start
with the breaking of leg bones.
The executionerdropped the execution
wheel on the shin bonesof the convicted person,
then worked his wayup to the arms
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rhythm,and the number of beatings
were prescribed in each use.
Sometimes also,the number of spokes on
the wheel was prescribedto increase the effect.
Often sharp edged timbers wereplaced under the convex joints.
Later, there were devicesin which the convicted person
would be harnessed.
Although not commonplace,
the executionerwould be instructed
to execute the convicted personat the end of the first act
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by aiming for the neck or heart
in, they could agree more often,less often, even less often.
This occurred immediatelyfrom the start.
In the second act,the body was braided
into another woodenspoked wheel, which was
which was possiblebecause of the broken limbs
or tied to the wheel.
The wheel wasthen erected on a mast
or a pole, similarto a crucifixion.
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After this,the execution was permitted
to decapitate or corruptthe convicted if need be.
Alternatively, fire was kindledunder the wheel
or the wheeled convictwas simply thrown in the fire.
Oh, you can see why this
gentleman, Joseph Ignace, wantedto, change it up a little bit.
Yeah, this. Is just. Awful.
Oh, I found the braiding.
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Oh. Oh, no.
Yeah.
Medievaldeaths were pretty gruesome.
Oh, when I was looking this up,I looked up a list of
punishmentsof how things were happen.
Firing squad had its own
subsection where it was like,
fire firing squad. Yeah.
(18:53):
I like a single bulletto the head over.
All the use of anti-aircraftguns,
like oversize weaponry.
And there was even onewhere people would be strapped
to the barrel of a cannon,and the cannon fired,
like, through them. Yep.
Oh, like that.
Strappedto the front of the cannon?
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Yeah.
This is not a kid friendlyepisode.
People were messed up.
So King Louis Wood bannedthe use of the breaking wheel
in 1791 after sensinggrowing discontent.
An ability would have their.
Not moved from him.As it turns out.
The nobility would have theirown form of executed, execution.
They would always, usuallybe beheaded by ax or sword.
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Problem was wasn't alwaysaccomplished with one swing
taking multiple.
Yeah.
Gross.
In October of 1789,
guillotine a, proposed
to the National Assembly.
Note this was at the startof the French Revolution.
Along with what I mentioned
earlier, six articlesfor consideration.
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They are, number one,
all punishmentfor the same class of crimes
shall be the same,
regardlessof the criminal, i.e.,
there would be no privilegefor nobility.
I said before,
when the death sentenceis applied,
it will be brought to
decapitation carried outby machine number three.
Excuse me.
The family of the guilty party
will not suffer any legaldiscrimination.
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Number four, it will be illegalto anyone to reproach
the guilty parties familyabout his or her punishment.
Number five
the property of the convictedshall not be confiscated.
And number six,the bodies of those executed
shall be returned to the family.
If so requested.
This was a little bitcontroversial for this part,
because the rights ofthe condemned were not really
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thought of. Yeah, previously.
They didn't care.
This is the first time that
that was eventaken into consideration.
So in following
in the following speechto the Assembly a month later,
he was quotedor maybe misquoted as saying,
now with my machine,I cut off your head
in the twinkling of an eye,and you never feel it.
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That statementquickly became a joke.
Maybe even a French Revolutionmeme,
and a comical song startedcirculating about guillotine
and his machine, forevertying his name to it despite
never actually being involvedin any of its design.
Jerry.
Geez. Jerry.
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These proposals were acceptedon the 3rd of June.
If the. Pride in.
1791 and it became law
on March 20th, 1792.
So those six things became law.
Yeah. In 1792.
Now there is the legendthat Jerry G
was eventually executedby guillotine.
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This is untrue.
However, he was arrestedand imprisoned later
for not giving up informationabout accounts.
Family who the counthad left in Jerry G's care.
The countwas executed by guillotine.
However, JerryG was freed from prison
in the general amnesty of nineThermidor.
(22:13):
That is perhaps for adifferent time, because that is
in relationto the French Revolution.
Bonkers. Complicated. Yes.
We I'm not going to go toodeep into the French Revolution.
Just because it could bean episode later on.
But, yeah, there was thethis count was
he was getting executed.
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And in a letter,he left the care of his family
to Joseph Ignace.
And then
I don't knowwhich side of the revolution
came looking for them.
But he would refuseto give them up.
And then. So he was imprisoned.Yeah,
that's the short of it.
Right.
So who designed it then?
Well,it was a French surgeon, Antoine
(22:56):
Louis, and Germanengineer Tobias Schmidt.
Tobias.
They have what's called.
It was really quite cold.
It was
it was from the toilet.
Is it the toilet commission?The toilet?
Yeah, it sure was the toiletcommission. What?
To knowif they flushed the other way.
(23:16):
Hey, Mr.
Prime Minister Handy.
So good.
On a rubbertire at the like, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
Drinking fosters.
Yeah. Drinkingfosters. So, yeah.
These two gentlemenbuilt the prototype,
and it was inspiredby the Halifax.
Give it, it, in fact,included a curved blade,
(23:37):
but that was laterchanged after King
Louis the 16th suggested itbe used with a straight blade.
So he made that decisionto make the,
like the bit of a straightangled blade. Why?
Because like a. 16thwas an idiot.
He was a bitof a amateur locksmith.
And he came upwith this idea stating that,
it would have beenbetter for more stout Nick's.
(23:59):
Louis the 16th had no anything.
He was just a rich manthat was the son of the previous
emperor and king,and he was just a original.
Don't worry anything about whatLouis the 16th came up with.
He was just like,I can put input into this.
I'm to put input into this.Which is why they killed him.
Sean sounding very. Revolutions.
(24:20):
Very revolutionary.
All with their I think the rich.
Actually, I.
Saw a meme today that was like,
I'm not saying anything,but look at these two charts.
And it was like the wealth
distributionin France in 1772, 1790.
It was like,
you know, the top 10%,90% of the wealth or something.
And then now and it wasthe exact same graph, but worse.
(24:42):
It was like, oh, oh.
So the prototype.
Yeah, it was usedfirst on higher.
I mean, on a higher rate man,
which is just a rubberwho steals from travelers.
Yeah.
Nicholas Jaques Pelletier.
Yep. That'll do. Cool.
You don't even want to admit.
(25:04):
I mean, you nailed Jack.
Nicholas, Jack Pelletier. It's.
Yeah, yeah,sounds like it sounds.
Nicer, but pretty much.That was it. Pelletier.
Pelletier. Lady.
Oh, I never mentioned him again.Anyway.
That'sbecause he doesn't matter.
He wasn't even around that long,but his fucking.
Wikipedia came off.
His Wikipedia.
Page is so. Long.
(25:26):
Why is it that important?
He was the first personto be executed by guillotine.
Yeah, he. Was a robber that diedlike.
Yeah. Interesting.
That happenedon the 25th of April
in 1792, in front of what is nowthe Palace de hotel de Ville.
The City hall of Paris, right.
All executions took place thereuntil August 21st,
(25:47):
when the guillotine was movedto the Palace do carousel,
which I think is the citysquare.
Paris with the main square.
All I need to know.
It's the open end.
Where is the Eiffel Tower?
It's located at the openend of the courtyard.
It exists at this point.
But. It's, it'sat the other end of the Louvre.
It's at the open ended.
That's right.
It's in the courtyardof the leaves. Isn't the Louvre
(26:08):
like in a straight linefrom the Eiffel Tower? Yeah.
The Louvre is.
The Louvre building
is part of the original Palaceof Versailles. Like.
And all of that construction.
The Eiffel Tower was obviouslycreated much later,
but obviously it was designedto work
with the existing architectureof Paris and Paris.
Remember, somehow it looks very,very well laid out.
That's because one of the kingsjust decided one day
(26:28):
everything's really grossgoing boot everybody out
and knock a bunch of shit down
and make the roads widerand make them straight.
So they they displaced
tens of thousands of peopleto said, get out of here.
This is a slum. That'swhy I like you name.
It worked, it worked.
But you look at Paris,you're like,
how are all these buildingsbig and beautiful?
And why are the roads so wide,
(26:49):
That's why I hada strong, wealthy upper class.
Yeah, because. Paris is shaped.
Shaped like a snail.
So, yeah. All cities.
Of course. Paris is shaped like.
I'm going to show you guysa video
in between these nexttwo podcasts,
and you were going to love it.
So the next time you are walkingto the leave or possibly
just remember that's where the.
Guillotine, you know, we all doall the time. Yeah, yeah.
(27:10):
Thank you. Were sayingwhat's that?
Do to leaves and then leave
the machine.
You tell me where the live.
The la the machine was theprototype was deemed a success.
Though.
That's Italian for croissant.
In the end.I'm learning Italian.
Duolingohas been very kind to us. Me?
(27:31):
I ordered a coffee in Italianthe other day.
Anyway, a side mission.
Un cappuccino conducted.
To the persontaking the order. Understand it?
Yeah.
You did one cappuccino,latte for 40.
It's notgood. It's cafe con latte.
Cappuccinois already going okay.
He asked for a coffee with milk,please.
(28:06):
Anyway,
the machine was deemeda success.
Oh. Very much.
Yeah,of course it was. Off with. Z.
Quick and seamlessly.Seemingly painless death.
Seemingly painless,seemingly painless.
But no one really knowwhat to do. Like no.
Do I really need to explainhow it works? No.
Everyone listening has an idea,right?
(28:26):
Well, if you don't either gotraveling through time.
You went to a really bad.
School,go right around Braintree, and.
We went to bad. School.Yes we. Did.
We got to go to the Linktree
or jump on YouTube and searchSkateboard Guillotine.
Thereyou'll find the jackass skit
with the guillotinemade with the skateboard.
And you get the idea.I've seen that one.
(28:47):
I have, yeah.Steve-O? Yep. Yeah. Hey.
Looked very.
Quickly.
They have a skateboardand they drop it on his shins.
It's PG 13.Yeah, it's pretty clear.
It's a PG13 way of understanding
how the guillotine works.
Well, that watching anybody,you know die.
I didn't look up any videos.
No, I don't know if they exist.
No I don't why would you?
(29:08):
I might try searching one.
The one we're
going to talk about laterbecause video cameras existed.
Yeah. I'm all good.
Yeah. I don't need to say that.
The guillotine,however, gained its infamy
from the French Revolutionduring the Reign of Terror.
Which is literallywhat it's called. Yep.
No one was really safefrom its unbiased edge,
(29:30):
starting with Louis
calling the agreement.
And trying to pronounce Louisthe 16th.
And my name. Is.
No, I don't believe that is KingLouis.
This is like the first person.Some other Louis in.
The French Revolution,who was a royalist, famed
for being the first guillotinefor his political ideas.
(29:51):
So he wasn't a criminal,he just had political ideas.
And he was the first personto get. Off with his head.
Off with his head.
Louis Collin.
And to promote. Him.
This led to about 17,000 peoplebeing guillotined
between June of 1793and July of 1794.
That's so.
That is right.
Many of this, so many.
(30:12):
I've already donethe math. Yeah.
Get ready, get ready.TBH, mind blowing.
How many people is just over12 months?
So one year plus a month.
These 396 days.
Let's divide 17,000 by 396.
That is an average of 43people every day.
And like you have to assumethey weren't doing 43 a day.
So they were seven days.
What they were doing hundreds.
(30:33):
Of hours,
they probably gotone day of a week
and they're doing 350 on thatone day.
Oh 40. Lined up.
At 43 day.
Let's say they.
They utilize eight hours of.
Sunlight to do it.
It's like one every ten minutes.
They would have had them.
Lined up so that soso eight hours of sunlight.
(30:54):
So we've got whathow many minutes of sunlight.
It's we got 60 minutes.
It's like when you at Aldiand like you've got your bag.
And they just beat.
It's like not even all the wayup yet.
And the next. Person,it's already in there.
It's like,I think that's when we're ready.
It's like a construct.It's like.
It's like, what's.The shutter speed on the camera?
(31:14):
Yeah,but how fast is the guillotine?
All right.
Hundred percent believewhat you just said is right.
It was being crankedback to the top
as they wouldloading the next victim.
Yeah, the blood's the headstill on the day you get put it
in, the head is in frontof you and you're like hot.
I thinkyou're like, oh, it's a basket.
Yeah, it's a basket.
It's a basket with the headin. It is in a bag.
(31:35):
I played Skyrim,I know what that bit looks like.
And we get. The head clear.
Oh please guys,
but when I, when I did thatmath, that was ridiculous.
An average of 43 peopleevery day, like.
A part of a chain.When the positivity.
Like you said,
if it was like you're tryingto take the beat off of itself
and you can't get it back down.
Yeah.
Let's say in the head,
the head gets chopped, the headsitting on the pile of heads
(31:57):
and you're like,oh, crap, empty the bin, guys.
So if we were going to go,
yeah, I was the sunlight. Yeah.
I was just on about ten.
Let's just say an eight hourworkday. Sounds fun.
Eight hour workday.
So what, 43divided by eight is what, five?
Yeah, five. Every fiveevery hour.
Every day, every hours.
(32:17):
And just think they wouldhave had to have lunch. I'm
assuming a one hourlunch break in the monarchy.
Like I want.
To be the 45th personor the first person, 43rd,
43rd person or the first person.
Yeah, I'd. Ratherbe none of them. To be honest.
I'm pretty happy having my headattached.
That is just.
And that is on the lowside of the estimates.
(32:37):
Some estimateshave it up to 30,000 people.
That's a very big differencein estimates.
And I.
I, I do lovethese like historical numbers
where they're like could be 20,could be 500 million.
Who knows.
But that's just ridiculous.
Yeah.
There's a reasonwhy they called it the terror.
The Reign of Terror. Yeah.
It's like it's not quite as bad,but it brings to mind,
(32:59):
like the Soviet era of just like
one night, they'll just comeget you and off you go.
Bye bye.
It was so bad that they started
going after the peoplethat started the revolution.
Are getting back.
This alsowas considered an event.
It was a popular event.
Crowds gathered.
(33:19):
Vendors would sell programs
listingthe names of the condemned. The.
And this wasn'tjust then either,
public guillotine and continuedinto the early 1900s.
Oh, the verb. Facilitating.
Guillotine.
With the feather. Guillotine.
There's got to bea more intricate.
I'm sure it was guillotine is.
(33:40):
But like I said, no one was safefrom the former King Louis
the 16th and his wife,Mary, Queen Mary.
And ten a.
I actually have pinsof those two.
That was at the startof the French.
All the reign of terror.
The pins, the heads separate,different pin,
Small. But.
So those two were done at thestart of the Reign of Terror.
(34:02):
Yeah. And towardsthe end of the Reign of Terror,
alter the end of the revolution
with the revolutionary leaderssuch as George Danton
sank just and MaximilienRobespierre.
Robespierrewas a bit of a decade.
He was it. Yeah.
So if you want to learn moreabout the French Revolution,
(34:22):
we'll probably doan episode sometime.
But he does it.
Yeah, a
brilliant series on it,on a channel
calledoversimplified on YouTube.
That's where I got my pins from.
A lot of
maybe some of these victimsin that 17,000 were just, well,
there was somethat was just like cable
opposite ordealor apology to Robespierre.
So that's kind of howwe kept these power for a while.
(34:45):
Yeah.
But he has a long
it took him to I mean,Maximilian is pretty cool.
Maximilian FrancoisMarie Isadore de Robespierre.
That is one. Was a great name.
It evokes a lot of thought.
So to tieit all into the cheeky verse.
Forgot the boring job. Damn it.
(35:06):
And now to tie itall into the cheeky verse.
Yeah.
On the 17th of June 1939,we skipped forward
couple hundred yearsoutside of Saint Pierre prison
that saw the last publicguillotine execution.
The condemned man was EugeneBorden,
convicted of six countsof murder, and in the crowd,
Christopher Lee.
(35:26):
Matthew Mandel.
Christopher Lee, Christopher Leethe actor.
Episode topic.
And subject of Cheeky Talesepisode 4544 are you kidding?
Nobody thought we recorded thathere? Yep.
Wow. Sorry, guys,I've just gone through little.
What? Where at episode 88.
35. I think before I believe.
(35:48):
Anyway. Doesn't matter.
I think it's 85. Yeah.
If you'd like to know how
the famed actor from
the franchisesis from franchises
such as Star Warsand Lord of the rings,
was there in the crowd,go check out that episode.
However, there were a few issueswith this proceeding.
The last public execution,
there was inappropriate behaviorfrom spectators.
(36:10):
What kind of behavior is crosses
inappropriate at a publicexecution? I hear you ask.
What kindof behavior is inappropriate
at a public execution? Boy,would.
You like to have a guess?
I'm guessing that they were,like, drunk
or were they, like, jeering?
I don't know if they were drunk.
Bottling reports do
say that the crowd was anythingbut sober and reserved, so
(36:32):
maybe they were just like,very disorderly.
Yeah, like you said,jeering and stuff like that.
That is not the worst of it.
Allegedly,some spectators rushed
towards the corpseand soaked up some blood
with handkerchiefsto keep as a souvenir.
You don't need to do that.
That's unnecessary. Necessary?
It is.
That's that's.
A key I would call. A key.
That's a key. Warning.
(36:53):
There was the
the assembly of the mechanismwas also incorrect
in some aspects.I had to fix it.
It was a bit of adelay. Went up instead of down.
And there was secret filming
and photography of the executionfrom several stories above.
Secret filming in 1939.
Hey, what's that sound?
What's that giant camera doing?
Look, a manwith a cape over him.
(37:15):
What's that?
The executionwas meant to take place at dawn.
Because of the crane.
As. They had time to get ready.
Because of the incorrectassembly,
it was,
allowed peopleto get in position,
and there was enough lightfor cameras and stuff.
Yeah, good openwet plate photography.
So when I said it was.
In the 70s, it. Wasn't.
No, this was 1939.
(37:36):
The oh, the last public.
Public execution.
So when I said earlier,I went looking for a video.
I was looking for this one.Yeah.
What the actual video was
this.
Oh, false.
The French government to forceany more executions to be moved
inside the prison courtyardfor privacy
during count one from. Sure.
I don't know if that's one.
Oh, that's like six.
(37:58):
I'm trying to yawn
behind my microphoneso he doesn't see me.
But it did remain the officialmethod of capital punishment
until the death penaltywas abolished in 1981.
You got me. Okay, okay.
With the last executionbeing Hamid.
Danger. Booey!
Oh, geez. Okay.
(38:18):
Sorry. Hamid.
I'm out of here.
I'm going to John Doobie.
I'm not done. Doobie.
That's not it.
Cut! It's weed.
Tomato. John Doobie.
So he. That's a hard. Name.
He was executed on September10th, 1977.
So that's.
That's today.
Today? Not today,but 40. Seven years ago.
(38:39):
Right. Tunisia.
Keeping with the Star Warsthing,
this was five months afterthe debut of the first movie.
The last
guillotineexecution was five months after
the releaseof the first Star Wars movie.
So the guys that did that
executionprobably went and saw style.
Probably
(39:00):
not only was Star Warsa thing, people were waiting
to get their handson the new Atari game system,
but the Atari gaming system
was also launchedin September of 1977.
So yeah,we talked before about GTA.
Is closer to the yeah,
that kind of thing,which is just a mind boggling.
Yeah.
Why was it executed?
(39:22):
No. It's gross.
He was a young man from Tunisiawhere he first worked
in a grocery storeand later on landscaper
that had a workplaceincident in 1971.
He's like, got caughtin the tracks of a tractor
and losttwo thirds of his right leg.
While in hospital recovering
from the amputation,he met a 21 year old.
Elizabeth was quit. Boss guy.
(39:43):
What? Boss guy? Boss guy.
She did file a complaint againstthe man stating that he tried
to force her into prostitution.
This did cause himto be arrested
and held in custodyfor a few months.
On his release,he resumed his pimping rights,
drawing in two
more young girlsinto his confidence
and forcing theminto prostitution.
It seems to me that what arewhat are we calling him?
(40:07):
Icky man?
Do we have to read outwhat he did?
Yes, yes.
We got to understandwhy he was executed.
Seems like we. Already get it.
I mean, it was alsohe also held grudges as well,
because in July of 1974,he kidnaped Elizabeth and took
her back to his house,
the motivation being that
she had dumped on him.
(40:28):
The other two girls were thereand in full view of them,
he beat Elizabeth and torturedher, tortured her
by stabbing a lit cigaretall over her private areas.
John.
To Elizabeth's resilience,she survived the ordeal.
Unfortunately.
Amelia then drove her outto the outskirts of the city
Marseille. Marseilles.
Marseilles,and strangled her there.
(40:49):
On his return to his house,he warned
the two terrified girls not tomention what they saw to anyone.
Yeah,this guy was a piece of work.
Four days later,Elizabeth's body was discovered
in a shed, and one month later,a mirror.
Tried to, like, triedanother abduction.
However, that girl escapedand reported him to the police
and he was arrestedon August 11th, 1974.
(41:12):
After facing trialon the 25th of February 1977,
Hamida would be convictedof the following charges.
Murderwith aggravating circumstances.
Procuring,also known as pimping,
two counts of rapeand three counts of premeditated
violence, and would be giventhe death penalty.
There was an appeal and it wasrejected on the 9th of June.
(41:36):
In theearly morning of September 10th,
Amira would be informedhe did not receive a reprieve
from President ValeryGiscard d'Estaing.
You will have a crackat that one.
That's a hard one.
Yeah, we'llI will leave it as it is.
And shortly afterwards,at at 25 or 4:40 a.m.,
he was executed by guillotine,
(41:57):
becoming the last personexecuted in France,
although he was sorry,
although he wasn'tthe last person to be condemned.
15 on the death sentenceswould be ruled afterwards,
but beforethey were carried out,
the death penalty was abolishedin France on October 9th, 1991,
and those sentenceswere communed cross.
(42:18):
Good.
I guess a yeah, it's gross.
The guy was a dirtbag causethe death penalty.
That was a piece of crap.
He was very young at that, Ithink. Yeah, we end up being 27.
When he was executed, he wasn't.
There 27 years old.
He looks like a piece of crap.
I mean, my personal opinionis that it
is a better punishment
(42:41):
to let them live their lifein punishment.
Yeah.
I mean, his executionhelped in the abolishment
of the death penalty
because public sentiment
was growing against
not only the guillotine, butcapital punishment in general.
And then there were reportsthat Emilia was responsible
for up to 30safter his head was severed.
(43:01):
This was
testified by a doctorwho attended the event.
Gross.
There's also other storiesfrom other doctors,
like they were tryingto determine
if people were responsive.
And there's like a
story of some doctoryelling at the dude's name,
and he kept looking at himafterwards.
Yeah,
but that is what endedthe guillotine.
It was, I'mtrying to think of a pun
(43:22):
like decapitated, but not thatwas the end of the line for it.
Not only was his executionthe last one by guillotine,
it was also the last one
to be like a governmentsanctioned guillotine.
The last one in Western.
I think some other countriesmay have used
similar items later on,but it was not.
No sanctioned
(43:44):
guillotine
after that.
So hewas the last one there? Yeah.
Cut there.
Yeah.You got there in the end, man.
Well, not a happy story.
It is not a happy story,but it is the like I said, it is
the 47th anniversary of.
Of that last.One of that last one.
(44:05):
So just why not do the historyof the guillotine.
And now it gets used all overofficers of the world
for carrying a paper.
It is Head and shoulders,one of the key stories with ten.
That's good.
Good one.
Yeah it was icky.
It took a bit of a downturnat the end there.
Yeah. The ending.
Well you mean a downfall.
(44:25):
I mean it didn't really stopstart. Right.
We're talking about peoplegetting their heads cut off.
That's true.
Yeah. 17,000 people in one year.
Yeah true.
But nonethelessit still is interesting.
Yes it is a.
Good one because I didn'trealize it was not that long.
Ago. Yeah it was that recent.Yeah.
Because we all know the story.
(44:45):
Of course most of us that haveever read any Wikipedia page.
Yeah.
No the story of Christopher Lee.
And you're like yeah,that wasn't in the 70s.
That was when he wasstill in the bloody.
He I think intelligence called.
It was. Yeah, yeah. Yep.
Since. Then.
Oh it's taken that way.
My two sisters were alivewhen that happened.
They were very young,but they were alive,
so it's not that long ago now.
(45:07):
That is so recent.
Yeah.
So, manlanded on the moon longer ago.
Yeah.
Nearly ten yearsbefore that. Nearly.
Nearly ten years before last,I see. No.
Don't you achievethe 1972 was the last landing.
Allegedly also they arethey had done the entire.
(45:28):
Irony.
The Apollo programended five years before that.
Yeah. LEDs shot up. Shot up.
I'm still going to do theconspiracy debunking episode.
Allegedly.
That's that's crazy.
Think of that.
The entire like Apollomission, but.
Legit Apollo not just.Oh my God, let's end this now.
No, no, no,we're not just talking.
We're not just talking about 11.
(45:49):
Like, what was the last Apollomission? 17.
Yeah, I got some photosfrom Adam a couple of weeks ago.
Now that were
he met someone that was therefor the Apollo program.
Like work. Legit late shot.
That personwas working on the program.
And like, the alleged program.
He was able to give mephotos of his that were.
Were they hand-drawn schematics?
(46:11):
But no, they didn't have them,
but they were ableto give photos of the Apollo
four launch,which was the first Saturn five
and the Apollo 9 or 10.
Depending on depending onlike how good the lights
were in in UniversalStudios at the time. Hey, you!
It would be so much
(46:31):
more difficult to fake itthan it would to do it for real.
Exactly. That's why they did it.
Why would
400,000 peopleworked on the Apollo project?
And they kept all them quiet.
Including Jack Black's.
Mom, including Jack black.Which is also wrapped.
So it's quiet.You can go and watch.
Listen. Yeah.
There's all two episodesthat I did on this. Yep.
(46:54):
You can go and listen to them.
And you hear from dayone to day end.
Yeah.
I wasn't on those episodes
because he didn'twant to keep the
he didn't want to keep the realinformation in the Jimmy.
If you.
Know what,if you want to come up
with all the conspiracies,all the bunkum.
All right.
That was fun.
(47:16):
I think that's a good placeto wrap up.
It's a good place to chop itthere.
Yeah.
I condemn this podcast to death.
Good night.
Because
that's good.
Let them eat cake.
(48:03):
Man landed on the moonlonger ago.
Yeah. Last.
See? Know.
Don't you like, chief?
The 1972 was the last landing.
Allegedly. Also they are.
They had done the entire irony.
The Apollo program ended upled to shot up.
Shot up.
I'm still going to do theconspiracy debunking episode.
(48:25):
Allegedly.
It would be so muchmore difficult to fake it
than it would to do it for real.
Exactly.
That's why they did it.
400. Thousand peopleworked on the Apollo project,
and they kept all them quiet.
And kept shooting Jack black.Including Jack black.
Which is also actually soit's quiet.
You can go and watch listen to.
Episodesthat I did on this. Yep.
(48:47):
You can go and listen to them
and you hear from dayone to day end.
Yeah, I was on those episodes
because he didn'twant to keep the
he didn't want to keep the realinformation in the death.
If you know what,if you want to come up
with all theconspiracies, all the bunkum.
Humansover the course of history
have come up with some ingeniousor some might say,
dastardly waysof executing prisoners.
With some examplesincluding boiling,
drawn and quartering,burning and modern day methods
such as electrocution, firingsquad and lethal injection.
But one of the most famousand probably quickest methods
(00:20):
used was that of beheadingby guillotine.
Awww sacrebleu!
Which is what we're looking aton this episode,
which is the 47th anniversaryof the last time it was used.
Welcome to a morbid, cheekyTales.
Cordon Bleu.
(00:48):
47 years.
Is that it?
That's it.That's it. That feels like.
It's not a long time.That doesn't. Feel right.
That means it'll be in, like,the 80s.
Yeah. Yeah, we'll get to it.
Oh, no. No, no, to be, like, 70.
I played this game of how long?40 years ago is.
Because then all of a suddenit's like, oh, great.
Grand Theft
Auto Vice City is closer towhen it was set than it is now.
Oh that's right. Yeah it is. I.
(01:10):
Yeah, I hate it.I feel like he's heard that,
this week.
It comesup a lot in the barbershop.
So let's, let's not.
Talk about that quickly.Before we start.
Welcome back.
We're back.
He's back.
Let's not bore. Can we.
Can we continue a discussion?
We started last episode.
(01:31):
Oh, yeah. Of course. Again.
So, taquitos.
I got some new audio equipment.It's fantastic.
I got a new headphone amp.
I'm the only onewith over a year.
I've got in-ear monitors, lovelynew ones.
And I got this beautiful iPadmicrophone stand.
So I can not necessarilymount this on here.
It's mainly for my other job.You know, it's lovely.
And I've got. Stufffor you to you.
(01:52):
And I got this gratefullythat I got this while. Sure.
Right. I'm gonna have a drink.
I got this great Bluetooth pageturning thing, and guess what?
All of it works.
All of it works out on Apple,and it's amazing.
And it's fantastic.
Why are we using this?Come out to one?
Because Kimetsu is the favorite
earthmovingcompany of Cheeky Tail.
(02:12):
Where's our know? Where'sour cheeky tail? Stubby coolers.
Do you know what these ones arejust really good for a stubby.
That's why
I'm getting ones if I can.
He's deflecting.He's deflecting.
Hey, buddy,I'm on my cheeky tails.
One back has my name on it.
Aaron, can we have an updateon the PC, please?
Which pc?
The one he's building.
(02:32):
Which oneare the very responsive one.
We're not using?
We're not using the new one.
Because, the part that broke.
I asked the company to send me
a replacement,and I were like, yeah, sure.
And they sent methe wrong one. So.
That took.
It broke on the Saturday,the following Thursday.
(02:54):
So not the next Thursday.
The following Thursday,
I received, the new parts,and they were the wrong ones.
So now I'm in contact
with two companiestrying to get the correct parts.
And still do not have to do.
Is it just the screwsthat hold the thing in?
Dude,go to the nut and bolt factory
at Will and Gabba and say,I need this thread.
It needs to be this longand that will go okay.
(03:17):
And they will get it to you.
They like it's a spacer.
So it's got threadon both sides,
different kinds of thread,different lengths
I probably will.
Yeah. Yeah probably.
Well they might.
Yeah I can take Barton.
Yeah. Cool.
I might have to go there. Yeah.
So how long.
Bolt factory Woolloongabbasince.
You purchased the graphics card.
(03:37):
So todayis the 7th of September. Yes.
And I purchasedthe graphics card,
which is the first part ofthe upgrade on the 22nd of July.
Okay.
So, yeah,people will be listening
to thison the 10th of September. Yeah.
If you release day.
So it'sbeen close to two months.
I'm apparently salty.
(03:57):
Yeah. What's what's it doing?
Me yeah, yeah,we were out cycling before
this morning.
DNA like it's an ice creamon a 40 degree day.
Yeah. So,yeah. No, no new PC. No.
You still hasn'thad any power on through.
It has not been booted upat all. Nope. Yeah.
Now do you thinkthat would be it?
(04:17):
Wouldn'tyou know, it's not at all right.
Why would it be it.
How did you go with your thirdPC build
that you told me the other day
that you were going to do. Itokay.
So you making it soundlike I purchased more parts?
I did not.
I had an old spare computerfrom the office
that they were just checking outthat I got four years ago,
and I at the time, I was like,I'll turn it into a media PC.
(04:39):
And then that became irrelevantwith Chromecast and Google
TV and such.
So I went,
you know what,I'll leave this thing
alight and I'm goingto turn it into a ghetto ness.
So I just like a big hard drive
that I can access from anywhere.
And I have not purchasedanything, but it is working.
That was a successful rebuild.
(05:00):
So how many pieces do you havein this house at the moment for
plus laptops?
Two ofthem were free from how many?
Okay into.
(05:26):
Do we say anymore?
Aaron's computer manufacturedAaron surplus computer supplies.
Yeah. If you want some old.
Broken bases or brand new PC.
He's never been turned on.
Oh my God.
Yes. I'm not having a good run.
Cordon bleu, cordon bleu?
(05:46):
More fund topping.
Everyone can join in.
NFL season has started in NFLseason.
Is he, Aaron'swearing his Buccaneers hat.
Tampa Bay baby. Off.
I got too distracted gettingchips and forgot to get chips.
Yeah, I got chipsinstead of Bucs gear.
I've got tigers on my shirtbecause you. Two.
Cincinnati Bengals.
Bengals fans and gals,
(06:08):
yes, Joe Burrow willhopefully have a good season
and won't hurt himself.
At the moment.
There's a bit.All right. Hey Packers.
Well there's an issueat the moment
because they're having
a contract dispute withthe marquee wide receiver okay.
Not team Jamaar Chase.
It's week one. He'squestionable.
He's on my fantasy team.
And I don't know if he's playingbecause
(06:29):
I haven't given him a contract.
It's week one of the season.
Get that get that stuff sorted.Yeah.
Let's just said.
The wrong way. I have to check.
Please remind me tomorrow nightbefore I go to bed.
I need to checkif he's playing or not because.
Fantastic openinggame of the season.
Yeah.
Absolutely brilliant.
Came down to the last play. Yep.
It shouldn'thave come down on the last play,
(06:50):
but Lamar Jackson just chokedquite a few times.
He threw an absolute.
Rubbish dummy of a ball.
And just had a wide openreceiver in the end zone,
and they throw it to the left.
Yeah, I was tracking the scorebetween the Packers and the
Jets that day.
Yep. That was also quitea good game.
It's a very high scoring gameafter
(07:11):
I think the eagle startedvery slightly.
My quarterback was onnegative points with a fumble
and an interception. Yeah.
Anyway yeah.
So so when we're recording,we could either be upset
or very happy, depending on.
The whole demeanor.
Is determinedby 22 million is. Yes.
If a fantasy is looking goodthough.
(07:31):
So yeah, we've got six playersnow I see it.
Yeah.
Because I was looking good
before you change the pointsand they're terrible.
I told you he'd bring this up.
Oh wait I added points.
I didn't subtract anything.
Y'all players did shit.
No, this was in the predicted
for everyonebecause I never more.
You picked playersbased on their predicted
(07:52):
point scoring, didn't you?
That wasone of the keys to this.
Research.
The weekone points never add up.
Lamar Jackson scored 3040 pointsmore than is pretty good.
Patrick Mahomes scored 20 pointsless than his predicted.
Imagine if you had Aaron Rodgerson your team last year.
The running back for the Eaglesscored very well too.
(08:13):
Did Saquon Barkley. Saquon.
Travis Kelsey did not.Yeah yeah.
See that's the other thing.Is that the person you acquired.
Taylor Swift, the.
Fact the person you were playingagainst had Saquon Barkley.
And that doesn't contribute.
That doesn't contributegood to you.
And TravisKelsey didn't do diddly.
But tight ends don't often getus a great deal in our fantasy.
(08:34):
Oh they do fantastic.
Yeah.
It's either gigantic ginormousnumbers or they get two points.
Blondie Tyler hold on Blair,I am happy with my backup QB.
I'm interestedto see how he goes.
He brings. You backupQB. C.J. straight up.
Oh, okay. Texans.
I'm thinking of it
now that 50% of our fantasyleague is in this room.
I'm thinking about adding,adding in.
(08:55):
And then you put it to the vote.
And new thing for next year.
Okay, one mandatory rookie okay.
So what is the gowith the rookies.
Because I'm sayingyou could pick some.
Do they get like double pointsor something.
No. It was just that they don'thave any predicted stat lines
because they haven'tplayed a season yet.
That'swhy they're in their own tabs.
I do have a rookie. Yeah,so I do I do you have a.
I do know I don't have a rookie.
(09:16):
Mandatory rookie and
I don't know not on the bench
like mine's on the benchat the moment, which is fine
because he's a quarterback andI've already got a quarterback.
But I'd put Caleb Williamsin my starting lineup.
I, I went with the ultimate,
the ultimate rookiemove and chose Aaron Rodgers.
Yeah. That wasn't. Was Mr..
For snaps. Mr..
(09:37):
Not a pass.
Yeah, yeah I didsay you pick Rodgers. Yep.
Because he could statisticallyhave a huge season.
So let's see.
Anyway,
most of our fans would love totalk about NFL all day I'm sure.
Well, maybe if we got sponsoredby Underdog Fantasy,
then we could set up an underdogfantasy league
and our listenerscould join in with us.
We could?
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Or honestly,
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We don't do it for money becauseChiquito is anti-gambling.
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I we heardthis catch on the show confuses.
I would love itif race was in it Mr. UK.
All right.
That reminds me.
Have to ship the the jacket.
(10:20):
Over there.
That.
No, no
we'll have a fans and us leagueand then we have our personally
because the jacket doing it allfor the jacket.
That's our own thing. Yeah.
I'm not shipping that jacketanyway.
That does remind me.
Yeah I don't know
if you're sayingthe analytics during the week
we would have got a listenerfrom Wales.
Oh Wales.
So shout out to Fallen Helix.
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Cool fallen helix.
Thank you for listening.What platform?
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YouTube rank each. Yeah.
Don't get me.
Don't get as detailed.A breakdown on YouTube.
What episode did he listen to?
He said he hasn't listened to
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Have seen him in the analytics?Because he was. He's.
I'm subscribed on YouTube.
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You don't see subscriberlocations.
You see.
Listen to local.
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Is he just. Interactingwith people?
John's in the. Comments, John.
He's just we were chattingand I said, I've got this thing.
So subscribe.
He's been puttinghis personal number
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Just so people can find me.
All right, so tell me, Tee.
Higgins will.
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Do good tea.
I don't have to, Higgins. I do.
I thought he took the.
You know. I took him.
Anyway.
The history of the guillotineor team with the head.
Oh, we'll get the.
We will get there.
So do you sayguillotine or guillotine?
You can.
I think it's.
You take a wanker.You up according.
(11:43):
To the pronunciation on here
it says it's guillotine.
It's,
The guillotine.
Yeah. So you.
Phonetically g h l upsidedown at a n.
T guillotine
Michael Jackson's.
But these. Guillotine.
(12:03):
You may think it originatedin France.
Well, the word did,but the upper ranks
had its roots across Europe,Europe, Europe, Europe, Europe.
As early as 1280.
The Halifax Gibbet from England
is believed to bethe ancestor to the guillotine,
a wooden structurewith two uprights
and a horizontal beamand attached to the beam.
(12:25):
It's 3.5 kilo. Accursed.
Sheesh.
Irelandalso had a similar contraption
dating back to the early 1300sin Scotland.
Had the maidenconstructed in 1564.
One of the people executed by
the maiden was JamesDouglas, fourth Earl of Morton.
In 1581
you got your Scottish historyshowing you the fourth Earl
(12:48):
of Morton,
James Douglas.
Yeah, the fourth element in,
Scottish Governmentplay a leading role
in the murders of the QueenMary's confidante, David Rizzio.
It's most Scottish nameI've ever heard.
Rizzio and the king consort,Henry Darnley.
He was the last
of the four regents of Scotland
during the minority of Jamesthe Six,
some waysthe most successful of the four
(13:09):
since he won the Civil War
that have been draggingwith the supporters
of the exiled Mary,Queen of Scots.
So the Earl of.
Morton don't do well.
A couple yearsafter his demise in 1644,
a publication beginsspreading the legend
that James himselfhad commissioned the maiden.
After seeing the Halifaxgive it right,
(13:30):
so it says that he commissionedit, and then in 1581 he was
by thegibbet, by the maiden, sorry.
The fourth Earl of Morton's
townhouse is now a backpackershostel in Edinburgh.
Interesting remembering,of course, that
and everything inEdinburgh is very old.
So you can check that out,
because if you happen to betraveling through Scotland,
you can stopat the National Museum
(13:51):
of Scotland in Edinburgh
and see the original maidenwhich is on display there.
Also stop in at.
At the fourth Earl Morton'stownhouse house,
now Backpackers hostel.
Pick up somesome some infections
that if I take a small step,check it out, says double top.
Oh jeez, maybe.
(14:12):
But this device,
this device we're talking about
recentlywas made infamous by the French.
Yeah. Yep.
Really?
How did it originate? There?
I don't know, how did it.
Have a short break.
Well, these people may laugh.
Laugh at this at least.
(14:38):
You like that show?
For ideas of.
I think show and likes that.
He's gone.
Sean wants to trade it likeasbestos and bubble wrap it. Oh.
Bullshit.
Rafael, you're really.
(15:01):
Oh, that's just too darn good.
Okay.
All right,all right, I'm back. I'm good.
You continue.
We're good.
We're in the 30s.
So how did the made infamousby the French.
How did originate in France?
Well, a long time.
A man called Joseph Ignace.
(15:21):
Guillotine.
Guillotine. Yes.
He was againstcapital punishment
but in failing to abolish itinstead of a compromise
that all capital punishmenttakes the form of decapitation
by means of simple mechanism.
That was his kind of compromise.
He didn't want.
Well if we have to kill them.
(15:42):
Yeah, yeah.
He's goal was to make capitalpunishment painless,
quick and equalto all classes of men and women.
So. Well, good. Jobhe did. That. Yeah.
So for lower class citizens
before the guillotine,hanging was used
and not the type wherethe drop would break the neck.
This is the one that would leavethe condemned
(16:03):
hanging forminutes as they asphyxiated.
No, thanks.
As well, burning at the stakewas used.
Death by boiling dismembermentand the breaking wheel.
Yeah, the breaking wheels. Yeah.
I'm reading about the breaking.Well, how.
Does the breaking will work?
Oh, tell the cheeky listeners.
The breaking wheel, also knownas the execution wheel.
(16:24):
The wheel of Catherineor Saint Catherine's
Wheel, was a torturemethod used.
Used for public execution,primarily in Europe
from antiquitythrough to the Middle Ages
up to the 19th century,
by breaking the bonesof a criminal
or bludgeoning them to death.
The practice was abolishedin Bavaria in 1813.
So the way it.
(16:45):
Worked, I got strappedover the wheel on their back.
Hands and feet were tied down.
Right. It's kind of odd.
There's athere is a really good diagram.
Of them to a wagon and thenbroke every bone in the body.
That's pretty much it.
As a curse.
The picture is the crucifixion.
Yeah.
I thought they were likeon the wheel,
on their backwardsand they were pulled over.
(17:06):
The wheel was alreadystraining up.
So it's actually really awful.
Perhaps a rectangleon the primary goal.
The first act was agonizingmutilation of the body,
not death.
Therefore,the most common form would start
with the breaking of leg bones.
The executionerdropped the execution
wheel on the shin bonesof the convicted person,
then worked his wayup to the arms
(17:28):
rhythm,and the number of beatings
were prescribed in each use.
Sometimes also,the number of spokes on
the wheel was prescribedto increase the effect.
Often sharp edged timbers wereplaced under the convex joints.
Later, there were devicesin which the convicted person
would be harnessed.
Although not commonplace,
the executionerwould be instructed
to execute the convicted personat the end of the first act
(17:49):
by aiming for the neck or heart
in, they could agree more often,less often, even less often.
This occurred immediatelyfrom the start.
In the second act,the body was braided
into another woodenspoked wheel, which was
which was possiblebecause of the broken limbs
or tied to the wheel.
The wheel wasthen erected on a mast
or a pole, similarto a crucifixion.
(18:11):
After this,the execution was permitted
to decapitate or corruptthe convicted if need be.
Alternatively, fire was kindledunder the wheel
or the wheeled convictwas simply thrown in the fire.
Oh, you can see why this
gentleman, Joseph Ignace, wantedto, change it up a little bit.
Yeah, this. Is just. Awful.
Oh, I found the braiding.
(18:32):
Oh. Oh, no.
Yeah.
Medievaldeaths were pretty gruesome.
Oh, when I was looking this up,I looked up a list of
punishmentsof how things were happen.
Firing squad had its own
subsection where it was like,
fire firing squad. Yeah.
(18:53):
I like a single bulletto the head over.
All the use of anti-aircraftguns,
like oversize weaponry.
And there was even onewhere people would be strapped
to the barrel of a cannon,and the cannon fired,
like, through them. Yep.
Oh, like that.
Strappedto the front of the cannon?
(19:14):
Yeah.
This is not a kid friendlyepisode.
People were messed up.
So King Louis Wood bannedthe use of the breaking wheel
in 1791 after sensinggrowing discontent.
An ability would have their.
Not moved from him.As it turns out.
The nobility would have theirown form of executed, execution.
They would always, usuallybe beheaded by ax or sword.
(19:38):
Problem was wasn't alwaysaccomplished with one swing
taking multiple.
Yeah.
Gross.
In October of 1789,
guillotine a, proposed
to the National Assembly.
Note this was at the startof the French Revolution.
Along with what I mentioned
earlier, six articlesfor consideration.
(20:01):
They are, number one,
all punishmentfor the same class of crimes
shall be the same,
regardlessof the criminal, i.e.,
there would be no privilegefor nobility.
I said before,
when the death sentenceis applied,
it will be brought to
decapitation carried outby machine number three.
Excuse me.
The family of the guilty party
will not suffer any legaldiscrimination.
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Number four, it will be illegalto anyone to reproach
the guilty parties familyabout his or her punishment.
Number five
the property of the convictedshall not be confiscated.
And number six,the bodies of those executed
shall be returned to the family.
If so requested.
This was a little bitcontroversial for this part,
because the rights ofthe condemned were not really
(20:46):
thought of. Yeah, previously.
They didn't care.
This is the first time that
that was eventaken into consideration.
So in following
in the following speechto the Assembly a month later,
he was quotedor maybe misquoted as saying,
now with my machine,I cut off your head
in the twinkling of an eye,and you never feel it.
(21:08):
That statementquickly became a joke.
Maybe even a French Revolutionmeme,
and a comical song startedcirculating about guillotine
and his machine, forevertying his name to it despite
never actually being involvedin any of its design.
Jerry.
Geez. Jerry.
(21:30):
These proposals were acceptedon the 3rd of June.
If the. Pride in.
1791 and it became law
on March 20th, 1792.
So those six things became law.
Yeah. In 1792.
Now there is the legendthat Jerry G
was eventually executedby guillotine.
(21:52):
This is untrue.
However, he was arrestedand imprisoned later
for not giving up informationabout accounts.
Family who the counthad left in Jerry G's care.
The countwas executed by guillotine.
However, JerryG was freed from prison
in the general amnesty of nineThermidor.
(22:13):
That is perhaps for adifferent time, because that is
in relationto the French Revolution.
Bonkers. Complicated. Yes.
We I'm not going to go toodeep into the French Revolution.
Just because it could bean episode later on.
But, yeah, there was thethis count was
he was getting executed.
(22:34):
And in a letter,he left the care of his family
to Joseph Ignace.
And then
I don't knowwhich side of the revolution
came looking for them.
But he would refuseto give them up.
And then. So he was imprisoned.Yeah,
that's the short of it.
Right.
So who designed it then?
Well,it was a French surgeon, Antoine
(22:56):
Louis, and Germanengineer Tobias Schmidt.
Tobias.
They have what's called.
It was really quite cold.
It was
it was from the toilet.
Is it the toilet commission?The toilet?
Yeah, it sure was the toiletcommission. What?
To knowif they flushed the other way.
(23:16):
Hey, Mr.
Prime Minister Handy.
So good.
On a rubbertire at the like, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
Drinking fosters.
Yeah. Drinkingfosters. So, yeah.
These two gentlemenbuilt the prototype,
and it was inspiredby the Halifax.
Give it, it, in fact,included a curved blade,
(23:37):
but that was laterchanged after King
Louis the 16th suggested itbe used with a straight blade.
So he made that decisionto make the,
like the bit of a straightangled blade. Why?
Because like a. 16thwas an idiot.
He was a bitof a amateur locksmith.
And he came upwith this idea stating that,
it would have beenbetter for more stout Nick's.
(23:59):
Louis the 16th had no anything.
He was just a rich manthat was the son of the previous
emperor and king,and he was just a original.
Don't worry anything about whatLouis the 16th came up with.
He was just like,I can put input into this.
I'm to put input into this.Which is why they killed him.
Sean sounding very. Revolutions.
(24:20):
Very revolutionary.
All with their I think the rich.
Actually, I.
Saw a meme today that was like,
I'm not saying anything,but look at these two charts.
And it was like the wealth
distributionin France in 1772, 1790.
It was like,
you know, the top 10%,90% of the wealth or something.
And then now and it wasthe exact same graph, but worse.
(24:42):
It was like, oh, oh.
So the prototype.
Yeah, it was usedfirst on higher.
I mean, on a higher rate man,
which is just a rubberwho steals from travelers.
Yeah.
Nicholas Jaques Pelletier.
Yep. That'll do. Cool.
You don't even want to admit.
(25:04):
I mean, you nailed Jack.
Nicholas, Jack Pelletier. It's.
Yeah, yeah,sounds like it sounds.
Nicer, but pretty much.That was it. Pelletier.
Pelletier. Lady.
Oh, I never mentioned him again.Anyway.
That'sbecause he doesn't matter.
He wasn't even around that long,but his fucking.
Wikipedia came off.
His Wikipedia.
Page is so. Long.
(25:26):
Why is it that important?
He was the first personto be executed by guillotine.
Yeah, he. Was a robber that diedlike.
Yeah. Interesting.
That happenedon the 25th of April
in 1792, in front of what is nowthe Palace de hotel de Ville.
The City hall of Paris, right.
All executions took place thereuntil August 21st,
(25:47):
when the guillotine was movedto the Palace do carousel,
which I think is the citysquare.
Paris with the main square.
All I need to know.
It's the open end.
Where is the Eiffel Tower?
It's located at the openend of the courtyard.
It exists at this point.
But. It's, it'sat the other end of the Louvre.
It's at the open ended.
That's right.
It's in the courtyardof the leaves. Isn't the Louvre
(26:08):
like in a straight linefrom the Eiffel Tower? Yeah.
The Louvre is.
The Louvre building
is part of the original Palaceof Versailles. Like.
And all of that construction.
The Eiffel Tower was obviouslycreated much later,
but obviously it was designedto work
with the existing architectureof Paris and Paris.
Remember, somehow it looks very,very well laid out.
That's because one of the kingsjust decided one day
(26:28):
everything's really grossgoing boot everybody out
and knock a bunch of shit down
and make the roads widerand make them straight.
So they they displaced
tens of thousands of peopleto said, get out of here.
This is a slum. That'swhy I like you name.
It worked, it worked.
But you look at Paris,you're like,
how are all these buildingsbig and beautiful?
And why are the roads so wide,
(26:49):
That's why I hada strong, wealthy upper class.
Yeah, because. Paris is shaped.
Shaped like a snail.
So, yeah. All cities.
Of course. Paris is shaped like.
I'm going to show you guysa video
in between these nexttwo podcasts,
and you were going to love it.
So the next time you are walkingto the leave or possibly
just remember that's where the.
Guillotine, you know, we all doall the time. Yeah, yeah.
(27:10):
Thank you. Were sayingwhat's that?
Do to leaves and then leave
the machine.
You tell me where the live.
The la the machine was theprototype was deemed a success.
Though.
That's Italian for croissant.
In the end.I'm learning Italian.
Duolingohas been very kind to us. Me?
(27:31):
I ordered a coffee in Italianthe other day.
Anyway, a side mission.
Un cappuccino conducted.
To the persontaking the order. Understand it?
Yeah.
You did one cappuccino,latte for 40.
It's notgood. It's cafe con latte.
Cappuccinois already going okay.
He asked for a coffee with milk,please.
(28:06):
Anyway,
the machine was deemeda success.
Oh. Very much.
Yeah,of course it was. Off with. Z.
Quick and seamlessly.Seemingly painless death.
Seemingly painless,seemingly painless.
But no one really knowwhat to do. Like no.
Do I really need to explainhow it works? No.
Everyone listening has an idea,right?
(28:26):
Well, if you don't either gotraveling through time.
You went to a really bad.
School,go right around Braintree, and.
We went to bad. School.Yes we. Did.
We got to go to the Linktree
or jump on YouTube and searchSkateboard Guillotine.
Thereyou'll find the jackass skit
with the guillotinemade with the skateboard.
And you get the idea.I've seen that one.
(28:47):
I have, yeah.Steve-O? Yep. Yeah. Hey.
Looked very.
Quickly.
They have a skateboardand they drop it on his shins.
It's PG 13.Yeah, it's pretty clear.
It's a PG13 way of understanding
how the guillotine works.
Well, that watching anybody,you know die.
I didn't look up any videos.
No, I don't know if they exist.
No I don't why would you?
(29:08):
I might try searching one.
The one we're
going to talk about laterbecause video cameras existed.
Yeah. I'm all good.
Yeah. I don't need to say that.
The guillotine,however, gained its infamy
from the French Revolutionduring the Reign of Terror.
Which is literallywhat it's called. Yep.
No one was really safefrom its unbiased edge,
(29:30):
starting with Louis
calling the agreement.
And trying to pronounce Louisthe 16th.
And my name. Is.
No, I don't believe that is KingLouis.
This is like the first person.Some other Louis in.
The French Revolution,who was a royalist, famed
for being the first guillotinefor his political ideas.
(29:51):
So he wasn't a criminal,he just had political ideas.
And he was the first personto get. Off with his head.
Off with his head.
Louis Collin.
And to promote. Him.
This led to about 17,000 peoplebeing guillotined
between June of 1793and July of 1794.
That's so.
That is right.
Many of this, so many.
(30:12):
I've already donethe math. Yeah.
Get ready, get ready.TBH, mind blowing.
How many people is just over12 months?
So one year plus a month.
These 396 days.
Let's divide 17,000 by 396.
That is an average of 43people every day.
And like you have to assumethey weren't doing 43 a day.
So they were seven days.
What they were doing hundreds.
(30:33):
Of hours,
they probably gotone day of a week
and they're doing 350 on thatone day.
Oh 40. Lined up.
At 43 day.
Let's say they.
They utilize eight hours of.
Sunlight to do it.
It's like one every ten minutes.
They would have had them.
Lined up so that soso eight hours of sunlight.
(30:54):
So we've got whathow many minutes of sunlight.
It's we got 60 minutes.
It's like when you at Aldiand like you've got your bag.
And they just beat.
It's like not even all the wayup yet.
And the next. Person,it's already in there.
It's like,I think that's when we're ready.
It's like a construct.It's like.
It's like, what's.The shutter speed on the camera?
(31:14):
Yeah,but how fast is the guillotine?
All right.
Hundred percent believewhat you just said is right.
It was being crankedback to the top
as they wouldloading the next victim.
Yeah, the blood's the headstill on the day you get put it
in, the head is in frontof you and you're like hot.
I thinkyou're like, oh, it's a basket.
Yeah, it's a basket.
It's a basket with the headin. It is in a bag.
(31:35):
I played Skyrim,I know what that bit looks like.
And we get. The head clear.
Oh please guys,
but when I, when I did thatmath, that was ridiculous.
An average of 43 peopleevery day, like.
A part of a chain.When the positivity.
Like you said,
if it was like you're tryingto take the beat off of itself
and you can't get it back down.
Yeah.
Let's say in the head,
the head gets chopped, the headsitting on the pile of heads
(31:57):
and you're like,oh, crap, empty the bin, guys.
So if we were going to go,
yeah, I was the sunlight. Yeah.
I was just on about ten.
Let's just say an eight hourworkday. Sounds fun.
Eight hour workday.
So what, 43divided by eight is what, five?
Yeah, five. Every fiveevery hour.
Every day, every hours.
(32:17):
And just think they wouldhave had to have lunch. I'm
assuming a one hourlunch break in the monarchy.
Like I want.
To be the 45th personor the first person, 43rd,
43rd person or the first person.
Yeah, I'd. Ratherbe none of them. To be honest.
I'm pretty happy having my headattached.
That is just.
And that is on the lowside of the estimates.
(32:37):
Some estimateshave it up to 30,000 people.
That's a very big differencein estimates.
And I.
I, I do lovethese like historical numbers
where they're like could be 20,could be 500 million.
Who knows.
But that's just ridiculous.
Yeah.
There's a reasonwhy they called it the terror.
The Reign of Terror. Yeah.
It's like it's not quite as bad,but it brings to mind,
(32:59):
like the Soviet era of just like
one night, they'll just comeget you and off you go.
Bye bye.
It was so bad that they started
going after the peoplethat started the revolution.
Are getting back.
This alsowas considered an event.
It was a popular event.
Crowds gathered.
(33:19):
Vendors would sell programs
listingthe names of the condemned. The.
And this wasn'tjust then either,
public guillotine and continuedinto the early 1900s.
Oh, the verb. Facilitating.
Guillotine.
With the feather. Guillotine.
There's got to bea more intricate.
I'm sure it was guillotine is.
(33:40):
But like I said, no one was safefrom the former King Louis
the 16th and his wife,Mary, Queen Mary.
And ten a.
I actually have pinsof those two.
That was at the startof the French.
All the reign of terror.
The pins, the heads separate,different pin,
Small. But.
So those two were done at thestart of the Reign of Terror.
(34:02):
Yeah. And towardsthe end of the Reign of Terror,
alter the end of the revolution
with the revolutionary leaderssuch as George Danton
sank just and MaximilienRobespierre.
Robespierrewas a bit of a decade.
He was it. Yeah.
So if you want to learn moreabout the French Revolution,
(34:22):
we'll probably doan episode sometime.
But he does it.
Yeah, a
brilliant series on it,on a channel
calledoversimplified on YouTube.
That's where I got my pins from.
A lot of
maybe some of these victimsin that 17,000 were just, well,
there was somethat was just like cable
opposite ordealor apology to Robespierre.
So that's kind of howwe kept these power for a while.
(34:45):
Yeah.
But he has a long
it took him to I mean,Maximilian is pretty cool.
Maximilian FrancoisMarie Isadore de Robespierre.
That is one. Was a great name.
It evokes a lot of thought.
So to tieit all into the cheeky verse.
Forgot the boring job. Damn it.
(35:06):
And now to tie itall into the cheeky verse.
Yeah.
On the 17th of June 1939,we skipped forward
couple hundred yearsoutside of Saint Pierre prison
that saw the last publicguillotine execution.
The condemned man was EugeneBorden,
convicted of six countsof murder, and in the crowd,
Christopher Lee.
(35:26):
Matthew Mandel.
Christopher Lee, Christopher Leethe actor.
Episode topic.
And subject of Cheeky Talesepisode 4544 are you kidding?
Nobody thought we recorded thathere? Yep.
Wow. Sorry, guys,I've just gone through little.
What? Where at episode 88.
35. I think before I believe.
(35:48):
Anyway. Doesn't matter.
I think it's 85. Yeah.
If you'd like to know how
the famed actor from
the franchisesis from franchises
such as Star Warsand Lord of the rings,
was there in the crowd,go check out that episode.
However, there were a few issueswith this proceeding.
The last public execution,
there was inappropriate behaviorfrom spectators.
(36:10):
What kind of behavior is crosses
inappropriate at a publicexecution? I hear you ask.
What kindof behavior is inappropriate
at a public execution? Boy,would.
You like to have a guess?
I'm guessing that they were,like, drunk
or were they, like, jeering?
I don't know if they were drunk.
Bottling reports do
say that the crowd was anythingbut sober and reserved, so
(36:32):
maybe they were just like,very disorderly.
Yeah, like you said,jeering and stuff like that.
That is not the worst of it.
Allegedly,some spectators rushed
towards the corpseand soaked up some blood
with handkerchiefsto keep as a souvenir.
You don't need to do that.
That's unnecessary. Necessary?
It is.
That's that's.
A key I would call. A key.
That's a key. Warning.
(36:53):
There was the
the assembly of the mechanismwas also incorrect
in some aspects.I had to fix it.
It was a bit of adelay. Went up instead of down.
And there was secret filming
and photography of the executionfrom several stories above.
Secret filming in 1939.
Hey, what's that sound?
What's that giant camera doing?
Look, a manwith a cape over him.
(37:15):
What's that?
The executionwas meant to take place at dawn.
Because of the crane.
As. They had time to get ready.
Because of the incorrectassembly,
it was,
allowed peopleto get in position,
and there was enough lightfor cameras and stuff.
Yeah, good openwet plate photography.
So when I said it was.
In the 70s, it. Wasn't.
No, this was 1939.
(37:36):
The oh, the last public.
Public execution.
So when I said earlier,I went looking for a video.
I was looking for this one.Yeah.
What the actual video was
this.
Oh, false.
The French government to forceany more executions to be moved
inside the prison courtyardfor privacy
during count one from. Sure.
I don't know if that's one.
Oh, that's like six.
(37:58):
I'm trying to yawn
behind my microphoneso he doesn't see me.
But it did remain the officialmethod of capital punishment
until the death penaltywas abolished in 1981.
You got me. Okay, okay.
With the last executionbeing Hamid.
Danger. Booey!
Oh, geez. Okay.
(38:18):
Sorry. Hamid.
I'm out of here.
I'm going to John Doobie.
I'm not done. Doobie.
That's not it.
Cut! It's weed.
Tomato. John Doobie.
So he. That's a hard. Name.
He was executed on September10th, 1977.
So that's.
That's today.
Today? Not today,but 40. Seven years ago.
(38:39):
Right. Tunisia.
Keeping with the Star Warsthing,
this was five months afterthe debut of the first movie.
The last
guillotineexecution was five months after
the releaseof the first Star Wars movie.
So the guys that did that
executionprobably went and saw style.
Probably
(39:00):
not only was Star Warsa thing, people were waiting
to get their handson the new Atari game system,
but the Atari gaming system
was also launchedin September of 1977.
So yeah,we talked before about GTA.
Is closer to the yeah,
that kind of thing,which is just a mind boggling.
Yeah.
Why was it executed?
(39:22):
No. It's gross.
He was a young man from Tunisiawhere he first worked
in a grocery storeand later on landscaper
that had a workplaceincident in 1971.
He's like, got caughtin the tracks of a tractor
and losttwo thirds of his right leg.
While in hospital recovering
from the amputation,he met a 21 year old.
Elizabeth was quit. Boss guy.
(39:43):
What? Boss guy? Boss guy.
She did file a complaint againstthe man stating that he tried
to force her into prostitution.
This did cause himto be arrested
and held in custodyfor a few months.
On his release,he resumed his pimping rights,
drawing in two
more young girlsinto his confidence
and forcing theminto prostitution.
It seems to me that what arewhat are we calling him?
(40:07):
Icky man?
Do we have to read outwhat he did?
Yes, yes.
We got to understandwhy he was executed.
Seems like we. Already get it.
I mean, it was alsohe also held grudges as well,
because in July of 1974,he kidnaped Elizabeth and took
her back to his house,
the motivation being that
she had dumped on him.
(40:28):
The other two girls were thereand in full view of them,
he beat Elizabeth and torturedher, tortured her
by stabbing a lit cigaretall over her private areas.
John.
To Elizabeth's resilience,she survived the ordeal.
Unfortunately.
Amelia then drove her outto the outskirts of the city
Marseille. Marseilles.
Marseilles,and strangled her there.
(40:49):
On his return to his house,he warned
the two terrified girls not tomention what they saw to anyone.
Yeah,this guy was a piece of work.
Four days later,Elizabeth's body was discovered
in a shed, and one month later,a mirror.
Tried to, like, triedanother abduction.
However, that girl escapedand reported him to the police
and he was arrestedon August 11th, 1974.
(41:12):
After facing trialon the 25th of February 1977,
Hamida would be convictedof the following charges.
Murderwith aggravating circumstances.
Procuring,also known as pimping,
two counts of rapeand three counts of premeditated
violence, and would be giventhe death penalty.
There was an appeal and it wasrejected on the 9th of June.
(41:36):
In theearly morning of September 10th,
Amira would be informedhe did not receive a reprieve
from President ValeryGiscard d'Estaing.
You will have a crackat that one.
That's a hard one.
Yeah, we'llI will leave it as it is.
And shortly afterwards,at at 25 or 4:40 a.m.,
he was executed by guillotine,
(41:57):
becoming the last personexecuted in France,
although he was sorry,
although he wasn'tthe last person to be condemned.
15 on the death sentenceswould be ruled afterwards,
but beforethey were carried out,
the death penalty was abolishedin France on October 9th, 1991,
and those sentenceswere communed cross.
(42:18):
Good.
I guess a yeah, it's gross.
The guy was a dirtbag causethe death penalty.
That was a piece of crap.
He was very young at that, Ithink. Yeah, we end up being 27.
When he was executed, he wasn't.
There 27 years old.
He looks like a piece of crap.
I mean, my personal opinionis that it
is a better punishment
(42:41):
to let them live their lifein punishment.
Yeah.
I mean, his executionhelped in the abolishment
of the death penalty
because public sentiment
was growing against
not only the guillotine, butcapital punishment in general.
And then there were reportsthat Emilia was responsible
for up to 30safter his head was severed.
(43:01):
This was
testified by a doctorwho attended the event.
Gross.
There's also other storiesfrom other doctors,
like they were tryingto determine
if people were responsive.
And there's like a
story of some doctoryelling at the dude's name,
and he kept looking at himafterwards.
Yeah,
but that is what endedthe guillotine.
It was, I'mtrying to think of a pun
(43:22):
like decapitated, but not thatwas the end of the line for it.
Not only was his executionthe last one by guillotine,
it was also the last one
to be like a governmentsanctioned guillotine.
The last one in Western.
I think some other countriesmay have used
similar items later on,but it was not.
No sanctioned
(43:44):
guillotine
after that.
So hewas the last one there? Yeah.
Cut there.
Yeah.You got there in the end, man.
Well, not a happy story.
It is not a happy story,but it is the like I said, it is
the 47th anniversary of.
Of that last.One of that last one.
(44:05):
So just why not do the historyof the guillotine.
And now it gets used all overofficers of the world
for carrying a paper.
It is Head and shoulders,one of the key stories with ten.
That's good.
Good one.
Yeah it was icky.
It took a bit of a downturnat the end there.
Yeah. The ending.
Well you mean a downfall.
(44:25):
I mean it didn't really stopstart. Right.
We're talking about peoplegetting their heads cut off.
That's true.
Yeah. 17,000 people in one year.
Yeah true.
But nonethelessit still is interesting.
Yes it is a.
Good one because I didn'trealize it was not that long.
Ago. Yeah it was that recent.Yeah.
Because we all know the story.
(44:45):
Of course most of us that haveever read any Wikipedia page.
Yeah.
No the story of Christopher Lee.
And you're like yeah,that wasn't in the 70s.
That was when he wasstill in the bloody.
He I think intelligence called.
It was. Yeah, yeah. Yep.
Since. Then.
Oh it's taken that way.
My two sisters were alivewhen that happened.
They were very young,but they were alive,
so it's not that long ago now.
(45:07):
That is so recent.
Yeah.
So, manlanded on the moon longer ago.
Yeah.
Nearly ten yearsbefore that. Nearly.
Nearly ten years before last,I see. No.
Don't you achievethe 1972 was the last landing.
Allegedly also they arethey had done the entire.
(45:28):
Irony.
The Apollo programended five years before that.
Yeah. LEDs shot up. Shot up.
I'm still going to do theconspiracy debunking episode.
Allegedly.
That's that's crazy.
Think of that.
The entire like Apollomission, but.
Legit Apollo not just.Oh my God, let's end this now.
No, no, no,we're not just talking.
We're not just talking about 11.
(45:49):
Like, what was the last Apollomission? 17.
Yeah, I got some photosfrom Adam a couple of weeks ago.
Now that were
he met someone that was therefor the Apollo program.
Like work. Legit late shot.
That personwas working on the program.
And like, the alleged program.
He was able to give mephotos of his that were.
Were they hand-drawn schematics?
(46:11):
But no, they didn't have them,
but they were ableto give photos of the Apollo
four launch,which was the first Saturn five
and the Apollo 9 or 10.
Depending on depending onlike how good the lights
were in in UniversalStudios at the time. Hey, you!
It would be so much
(46:31):
more difficult to fake itthan it would to do it for real.
Exactly. That's why they did it.
Why would
400,000 peopleworked on the Apollo project?
And they kept all them quiet.
Including Jack Black's.
Mom, including Jack black.Which is also wrapped.
So it's quiet.You can go and watch.
Listen. Yeah.
There's all two episodesthat I did on this. Yep.
(46:54):
You can go and listen to them.
And you hear from dayone to day end.
Yeah.
I wasn't on those episodes
because he didn'twant to keep the
he didn't want to keep the realinformation in the Jimmy.
If you.
Know what,if you want to come up
with all the conspiracies,all the bunkum.
All right.
That was fun.
(47:16):
I think that's a good placeto wrap up.
It's a good place to chop itthere.
Yeah.
I condemn this podcast to death.
Good night.
Because
that's good.
Let them eat cake.
(48:03):
Man landed on the moonlonger ago.
Yeah. Last.
See? Know.
Don't you like, chief?
The 1972 was the last landing.
Allegedly. Also they are.
They had done the entire irony.
The Apollo program ended upled to shot up.
Shot up.
I'm still going to do theconspiracy debunking episode.
(48:25):
Allegedly.
It would be so muchmore difficult to fake it
than it would to do it for real.
Exactly.
That's why they did it.
400. Thousand peopleworked on the Apollo project,
and they kept all them quiet.
And kept shooting Jack black.Including Jack black.
Which is also actually soit's quiet.
You can go and watch listen to.
Episodesthat I did on this. Yep.
(48:47):
You can go and listen to them
and you hear from dayone to day end.
Yeah, I was on those episodes
because he didn'twant to keep the
he didn't want to keep the realinformation in the death.
If you know what,if you want to come up
with all theconspiracies, all the bunkum.
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