December 15, 2025 • 49 mins
The most dangerous movie ever made. Probably not a title you really want, but once you hear this story you'll realise it was all but inevitable. This week John takes Aaron and Sean through the crazy story of the film that was inspired by a house over-run by wildlife - Roar. Also a quick note - we won't have an episode next fortnight as we take a break for a busy Christmas period.
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(00:00):
It is oneof our most brought up episodes.
However, it isalso the least
talked about episode.
Dolphin House.
No Sean, this isn’t astory about boats
or World War 2.Good.
Or dolphin fugging.
But there will be water!Nooooo!
Yes. Splash Mountain.
(00:21):
The episode I'm talking aboutis not Dolphin House.
But today's episodeis a spiritual successor
to that story.
It's as if Dolphin Houseand the first spooky
spectacular had a baby.
Oh gross....
We're heading to Africa,Hollywood and the emergency
room.
Over and over and over again.
(00:42):
Welcome to Cheeky Tales,
and this is the story of themost dangerous movie ever made.
The 1981 film, Roar.
No connection to Katy Perry. Oh.
(01:04):
Well, well, well,
if it isn't the most ickyepisode we've done.
Dolphins. Dolphins?
No, this isn't about dolphinHouse.
There's no dolphins inthis story.
Oh, good. Icky.
I really thought you were
going to talk about that, actionpark.
You know that the theme parkthat killed a bunch of people.
Amazons? No. No, no.
(01:24):
Action park.
Oh, I don't know about that one.
Amazons.That's the Australian one.
Is the waterparkthat they close?
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't. Know anything. Else.
No. Action Park was bad.
Yeah. No. Not action.
Not action park. No, no.I don't even know about that.
Have you ever heard of thismovie?
No. Good. Okay.
Good. Go. I'm excited.
(01:46):
Good. Oh.
Are you just going to pause nowand watch the entire movie?
No, because, I mean, if we maybe
if we
purchased it on Prime Video,but it's not on any streaming,
platforms. I've already looked.
That's a shame. Yeah.
So roar.
Roar.
Okay.
More cursed than jawsand The Wizard of Oz. Yes.
I wouldn't say curse,but more dangerous.
(02:09):
Do we want to addressnext week first?
They're all doing it.
Okay, moving on with the Raven.
We got no news.
Is good news, as they say.
Going to be,going to be busy for three.
Weeks.
Doing some stuff, maybeseeing the Bucs play in Tampa,
maybe kissing the Empire StateBuilding on the lips.
(02:30):
John,what are you going to be bloody
doing something for Christmas?
You'regoing to be up to something.
I'm going to be at home.
Oh, cool.
You bloody.
You got stuff to do? You.
Church's moved out, so he's.
He's busy with. That.What if we talked him to him?
I was like,
someone'sgetting doxed to this thing.
Sign. It's not. Get it baby.
Shorts are.
Get boxes at a new place. Yeah.
(02:53):
Yeah.
So we're finally a location.
I've moved from Burpengaryto Walkabout.
So it's end of year business.
Yeah.
So we we will be giving, thethe Christmas episode,
a miss, actually.
Would it be a New Year'sepisode?
I think it'll be a New Year'sepisode. Look, let's be real.
We we said last year that we'verun out of Christmas stories.
(03:17):
There's just noChristmas stories anymore.
We're gonna turn into a LindsayLohan movie.
We're going to be hashing stuff.
We do have Christmas coloredlights.
That's the only reference.
That's it.
Sorry, folks.
Have a rest from Christmas.
I would like to do a LindsayLohan movie.
That it would bereally fun to be in that.
But we will be backin the new year.
And we willhave the now annual t shirt,
(03:40):
competition.
Sean will make
you a custom t shirt
if you do a specific thingin that episode.
Now, that's in the new
is that if we've got timeto record that episode.
But we're not going to havea New Year's.
No, we're not going to have anyis episode.
So that won't that won't work.
Yeah.
But, Sean will dosome sort of shirt giveaway.
He promises.
Yeah, I'll find a finda reason to do a shirt giveaway.
(04:01):
Yeah.
Maybe our most avidlistener will might actually win
this one for me the other day
that he's about to finishevery episode
that we've ever done. Nice.
Which makes him
in the top 0.01% of listeners,which is very impressive.
I hope we showed upin his Spotify Wrapped.
I would assume that it would
show up in the Spotifyright for him.
So shout out to Will.Good on you, big dog.
(04:22):
If we didshow up in your Spotify app,
send the screenshot to us.
Yeah,it'd be pretty cool to say yeah.
Maybe. Maybe. No,that didn't do it for podcast.
Should we do it?
Should we doone of them done videos then?
What?
You know, the like the
the listening goalis where the goal is for.
Thank you.
Thanks so much for listeningto us. And this year.
Like make sure. To likefor that.
(04:42):
Isn't that next year? Next year.All right. Yeah. Next to you.
We going to be backwith more episodes.
Yeah.Like I got. One in the studio.
But to be fair,I like completely off topic.
My Spotify wrapped,
because I do a lot of music onreading that's just completely
boring music, like maybe moviesoundtrack stuff or something.
So I had, like, bear McCreary,the guy that I was like,
(05:04):
music for things like Outlanderand like Vikings and
and TV shows becauseI was reading books. My cool.
This is like really good bookrating music.
I can't imagine that. Was that.
Peoplethat had van McCreary for them.
Can't imagine.I can't believe he even did one.
I was like,good on him. Did you get one?
Yeah, I got, the band neck deep.
Yeah, yeah. Did you get there?Yeah. You got there?
Yeah. Who did you get?
I think I had Mark Schneider,Mike Shinoda.
(05:26):
Yeah, well.
I had one from the regulationpodcast as well.
Oh, there you go.
My other top artist was MF doom,but rest in pepperonis.
I wasn't getting a videofrom him.
Pocketcasts, the podcast app of choice
for the Cheeky Tales boys.
And by that I mean me.
Yeah,you're these both on Spotify.
Yeah, they did a wrapped
(05:47):
and it was likeyou listened to 19,300
and something minutes of podcast
this year, and I went,oh jeez, that's a lot.
And then Jeezy sent me.
He's he's donelike 39,000 minutes.
Like, what the hell?
I think I was atI think 42 Spotify.
Yeah. Oh Spotify as well.Yeah. No, no.
Just podcast minutes on Spotify.Oh right.
(06:09):
Because I'm not.
Work. I'm trying to him.
Anyway, speaking of podcast,we should do one.
Yeah,we start with married couple.
No, Marshall and Tippi Hedren.
All of Tippi?
No. Was born in 1931and had 11 youngest siblings.
It's like you. Lovethis specific Tippi.
It is. It'll be the.
(06:29):
Jimi Hendrix of classic.Actress.
She's a well-known.Oh, was an actor?
Yeah, she's an actress.Okay. She wasn't a hard hit.
All right, all right.
I'd like to retract my comment.
He's. Now. He's got it.
It's the best.
Any other tips?No. There's no any other to.
Not imagine.There's many tapes at all.
So, no.
Had 11 younger siblingsand early on in his career,
(06:50):
worked a summer jobat Saint Louis Zoo
before moving to Hollywood inhis 20s to work in television.
Saint Louis, Missouri.
That don't say home of the Rams.
They don't say their stateproperly.
Missouri. Missouri.
As a Hollywood agent.
One of his clientswas William Blatty,
who wrote the novelThe Exorcist.
(07:10):
Originally, but he had a dealwith producer producer.
Patricia Patricia, producer.
Paul Monash.
But they clashed over plotchanges and Monash left crashed.
What? Christ did I say? Christ.
Now he's now. Tryingto find a way to add that in.
No. Was
made executiveproducer of the film
(07:33):
after marriage film.
Yeah. After we,I'm talking about The Exorcist.
So he was a producerof The Exorcist?
After marrying and divorcinghis first wife, he was the agent
and manager for TippiHedren before marrying her.
TV, believe itor not, is not her real name.
It is not Hedren.
(07:54):
Not like Natalie.
Like Natalie with a. Yes.
No I thought. Yeah.
I don't know how you say thatname.
Kirstie Alley.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
I think that's probably moreaccurate. Natalie.
Kirstie, did, coach me on it?
Because she knew someone
who had this name,and apparently
they were very specificin saying it's not Natalie.
(08:15):
It's nothing. Really. Natalie.
Okay.
I've seen someone with it speltlike that, and they had it.
Natalie.They said it like Natalie.
Oh, okay.
Yeah. So I bet it's differentfor everybody.
S different for everyone. Yeah.
Anyway, I'm just goingto call Tippi from now on
because that is what she isknown as.
She was born in 1930 and startedher career as a fashion model,
(08:36):
appearing on the front coversof life and Glamor magazines.
She made her big screen debutafter Alfred Hitchcock
spotted her on a TV commercial,became her drama coach,
and cast her in his 1963film The Birds.
Oh, yeah.
That's.
Yeah, that's that's most of it.
As Melanie Daniels dumped herone of the leading roles
(08:58):
in the film continuum.
I'm still in Hitchcock.It was Hitchcock.
It was Hitchcock'sPsycho as well.
I don't think he was.
No, no.
Anyway, no, I think he waspretty aware in the head.
Oh, you mean that movie?
Oh, didn't.
He might be gladwe're having a wake up.
We need a week.
We need a week off of that.
(09:20):
She also won the Golden Globe
for New Star of the yearfor that role.
Her career spans
more than 80 productionsin film and television,
and she has a staron the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
Tippi had a daughter,Melanie Griffith.
Yes, the famous one known forthe 1988 film Working Girl.
And in
(09:40):
1957, to her, like shehad her with, her first album.
Husband.How about how about husband?
Husband?Who is a producer husband.
And you give him Peter Griffith.
And, she divorced him in 1960and then married now in 1964.
Okay.Do you mean divorced him? Yeah.
(10:01):
Divorced him or to get SeanConnery?
He's got be Tudor Welsh.
Rock on a pancake.
One last personal noteto his granddaughter, meaning
Melanie's daughter is alsoan actress, Dakota Johnson.
Oh, there you go.
The one that I always get,mixed up with Dakota Fanning.
Yeah. How?
Oh, because.They both called Dakota man.
(10:23):
Dakota Johnson is of 50 Shadesof Gray fame and Madame Web.
I was going to saythe spider lady.
Can't rememberthe name of the slides.
Of great fame and, Madame Web.
Infamy.
What doyou think is a great movie?
Dude, she was so bad.
She was so bad. And.
They took her offthe promotional
because she was baggingthe movie
in, like, the first interview.
(10:44):
She was going around just being,like, this movie's garbage.
And so they took her out andmade Sydney Sweeney more of a,
prominent figure in the movie.
Actually,I haven't seen it, cause
I heard it was pretty good.I feel. Sorry.
I feel sorry for actors.
You you go and you make a movie,and you do your best effort,
and then they.
Let's just be blunt.
They edit it like shit. Yeah.
(11:04):
And then you watch itand you go,
I can't even do anythingabout this.
I did my best with the direction
I was given,and then I edit it like crap.
Justice League. There,I said it.
There's movies that are just badperformances and bad scripts.
There is so much squad. Yeah.
What do you. Mean?
Like I will never forget?
Well, that's what I told that.
Crap so bad.
(11:25):
Worst I, I was at a premierewith free tickets
thanks to John,and I almost got up and left.
It was so bad. That movie.
If youhave got up and left a movie
message is on the socials
because I'm actuallyreally curious about it.
I have never.I've never done it.
I've never done it.
My parents famouslygot up and left Moulin Rouge,
(11:47):
which I told my dad
about the other day,that I actually love that movie,
and I said he was crazy for it.
He proceeded to scoff and walkaway without saying anything.
So he got up and leftthe movie theater of your house.
So if you.
Nicole Kidman, Ewan McGregor.
A great soundtrack.
What's not to love?
Bit of TV. Well, it was great.
(12:07):
I think you dad's crazy.
If you've walked outof the movie, please.
Yeah, I want to knowbecause it's funny.
Yeah. Kirstie, you almost,
walkedout of Wolf of Wall Street.
Really?
Well, she didn't know whatit was about.
I kind of didn't know whatit was about.
We thought it was more of a
actualstockbroking type of movie.
Like something a bit moreintelligent than what it was.
(12:29):
Why would you want to see that?
That's just boring shit.It does.
We just just made money.
We just. Stocks are at 1.5%today.
Sell sell, sell.
I made $1.8 million buy credits.
So it's a little known
that stock
brokers actuallywere just really boring people
that didn'tdo a bunch of debaucherous crap.
(12:49):
They're actually just nerds.Just Bill gates.
Okay. Moving on.
We're in the year of 1969.
Nice.
That's a nice one.
Yes, I do have six dogs,as opposed to a spiteful.
I've got that written down.
No. Nope.
We're in Mozambique,
and Toby was filming for Satan'sHarvest near.
(13:10):
That's it.
They came across an abandonedplantation house,
Barong Goza National Park.
It was in
that place, I think.
Yeah,I think I know the first guy.
I'm not going to try it again.
You stitched.
Yourself upwith the hottest place names.
To pronounce.
Three.
It's fun. It's fun. You just.
You stop being, like,just episodes
(13:32):
based solely in America.
Like, which had been overrun.
So this plantation housewas overrun by a pride of lions.
And we're toldby that local guard
that the animal populations
were becoming endangereddue to poaching.
And this was their inspirationto make a movie.
Yeah. Ron.
This quote is from TPfrom parade magazine.
(13:54):
Heard of this?
Now that you mentioned the housefull of Lions.
Yeah. Anyway. Go on.
So yeah, this is a quotefrom Tippi from parade magazine.
It was an amazing thing to see.
The lions were sittingin the windows.
They were going inand out of the doors.
They were sittingon the verandas.
They were on topof the Portuguese house,
and they werein front of the house.
It was such a unique thingto see.
And we thought, for a movie,
(14:15):
let us use the great catsas our stars.
They're nice.Nothing can go wrong.
Nothing could go wrong.Yeah. No.
And to be discussed. The conceptwith the family.
Melanie and Noel, three sons,John, Joel and Jerry Marshall,
who all liked the idea andagreed to participate as actors.
So John and I'm.
Just winking. At them, tryingto do foreboding little bits.
(14:36):
Okay, but being that you haven'tdone, I'm just gonna hang on.
Yeah.
Nice.
What do you do?
The good use of the red light.
He just went behind you andgot the little light chasing me.
I just want him to be inJohn's shots. Oh,
so we've all got a.
Foreboding thing, butit's just me and John's camera.
So, yeah, they always wantedto be in the movie.
(14:57):
Except for Joel, who preferredto be art and director.
They visited animal preservesand spoke with line experts,
and learned
that the film would have to bemade in the US, as timelines
weren'ta common occurrence in Africa.
No, I don't think so.
They were also warnedbringing a large number of lions
togetheron set would be impossible.
(15:18):
Instead, it was suggestedthat they obtain their own
animals, raise and train them,and introduce them slowly.
What? Yes.
Yeah.
For this movie, we're goingto need 15 lions from birth.
You, sweet, innocent child.
The movie was estimatedto have a budget of 3 million.
And what year was this again?
(15:39):
1969.
And the concept.
Concept is probablyabout what they spent
on the Apollo missions.
No, no.
Developedthe first script in 1970,
and it had the workingtitle of Lions
Screen script.
Which was laterchanged to Lions.
Lions and More Lions.
(15:59):
Oh that's what.That is a great movie.
I'd go see that.
And that sounds like a strip
club in the Queen StreetMall near KFC.
Lions. Lions!Lions. Mau mau Mau.
I want lions, we got lions.
As he developed the script,
he was inspiredby slapstick comedy
and decided to includea mixture of comedy and drama,
all with the goalof portraying a message
(16:19):
for the need of preservationfor African wildlife.
There's one thing I think of
when I think of fully grown malelions it's comedy, comedy.
Slapstick. Comedy.
This included.It. It did it at a.
Two Lions, doing that thing
where they holding a bit of woodand they turn around smacking.
On it. This included it's.
You Love a.
(16:42):
Picture of the PowerPointone shows.
Up. Yeah.
This included sceneswhere characters would be chased
by the animals and pretendto be scared and scream, but
pretend you're saying
he allowed for the inclusionof spontaneous actions
from the animals,
which led to some of the lionsbeing credited as writers?
Nice.
I like that.
This is some woke.
(17:02):
Bullshit.
Do they have a union? No.
I wonder if that makes. Thempart of Sag-Aftra.
No, they didn't. They?
This was somethingI don't include.
But they did say that,
a lot of the crew onthe film were not.
You know,this was like a nonunion film.
There was only oneunion member in the film
(17:23):
and we'll get to him.Good union.
And it was a lion.
So they began the process.
Unions film.
Well this.
Is not a, not an opinionthat Aaron and John.
Share.
We've spoken about this.
Just for our safety.
So they begin the processof acquiring
and raising their own lionsalong with their family.
(17:44):
Most of the lions were rejects
from zoos, circusesand private owners.
Unableto cope with the responsibility.
As zoorejects is really what you want.
Yeah.
Their first lions lived,slept and ate with them
in their suburban housein Sherman Oaks, California.
Nice.
As you can imagine,the neighbors
and the local authoritiesweren't too thrilled.
(18:04):
Eventually,they brought a large,
secluded ranch 40 miles northof Los Angeles in Soledad Canyon
and would accommodate their
lines and serveas the African set for the film.
After several years of breedingand acquiring other species
of cats, including ayoung African bull elephant,
their labor of love grew
(18:25):
into one of the largest private
collectionsof big cats in the world.
Although tigers.
Sorry.
Lions. Yes.
Although tigers, cougars andjaguars are not found in Africa.
You know, like.
Okay, Tigers.
You know, like lions.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah, Tigers.
I'm sorry, I got confused.
(18:47):
Hey, are you cool?
I thought I was going into it.
I thought I was goinginto a different list.
Are you a little knownCarole like, Carole Baskin
episode that you haven'tfinished her on yet?
No, because I goI go list off the animals next.
Oh, that'swhat I was going to ask.
So although tigers, cougarsand jaguars
are not found in Africa.
No. Found a wayto write them into the story
(19:09):
so they could be in the filmas well. I do.
And once again, the titlechanged to what it is now.
Rah rah rah. Rah.
Rah rah rah. Filming today.
Filming started on
October 1st, 1976.
It does sort.
(19:30):
Oh, cool.
I don't know what it's for.
I'll be back soon.
Justin, this is the kind.
I did like my Myspace
or, like, love modeling.
This is a.
This. Is a visual episode.
On YouTube.
This is what it's likeevery time he does an episode.
I'm getting.
I'm feeling it. Yeah. Yeah.
(19:53):
Finally, filmingstarted on October 1st, 1976,
but by 1979, the family wouldhave the following animals.
71 lions. To 81.
Yeah. So roughly
72 minute 71.
You'reyou're a little 15 candles.
I know.
26 tigers.
(20:15):
That is so many
a tiger.
What? Oh.
Tiger. Lauren. Really?
That's what they went with.
Not like a no. Well, no dialog.
Different thing, isn't it? Yes.
What what what?
Yeah.
To be like a male or a malelion and a female tiger.
They. No no no no no no no.
I'm not having this type of fishbottom lighting thing.
(20:35):
They're both men. Well.
So you're saying if it wasthe head was a fish in the head?
Human legs. That's it.
I don't know. Well,tell him that.
I don't know that either.
Nine black panthers.
This is, like,the worst Christmas song.
Ten cougars.
How? Oh, birds.
(20:56):
Get me upset.
Ferrari.
These.
Do you feel. Randy?
Two jaguars.
I'm not finished yet.
Four leopards.
Sorry.
We're going to appeal to ourAmerican audience as a Jaguar.
All right.
Jaguar.
Two elephants.
Seven. 11. Elephant.
(21:17):
Six. Black swans. Five.
Oh, yeah. That's not all that.
Birds yet for Canadian geese.
Four cranes. Two peacock.
Seven flamingos and a stork.
Canada goose.I love the Canada goose.
So free birds comparedto the others. I don't. Know.
That's just what was listed on.
I generally go in vlogs.
Anyway, flamingos.
(21:37):
They're crazy.
Can I just drophow cool flamingos are?
Do you know how long they live?He does his bird person.
Like like idea.
Yeah.
They live to, like, 80or 90 years old. That's awesome.
You know, they're not actuallynaturally pink.
That's just the toxic toxins
in the waterthat colors their skin.
I did not know that.And I have no food.
Oh, yeah. That food. Yeah.
Because I was.
Saying is also toxic,but they're saying that.
Because I've seen the flamingos
(21:58):
at the Adelaide Zooand they're very pink.
And I don't think the waterin the Adelaide's it.
Yeah. Rest in pepperonis.
You might be right,but it's the food then
that's in there. Yeah.
One of the for for breastin pepperonis reference
one of the flamingosat the Adelaide.
So there was two of them.
Now mind you,
if you see a flamingoat the zoo,
that's probablythe only time you ever going
to see a flamingofor the rest of your life.
Unless you go to Africa, becausethey are Arctic protected.
(22:20):
And there was two
and some people brokenand baited up and it died.
It was 66 years oldor 65 years old
or something like that. Why?
Just cruel.
The only animal that was turneddown,
for what was a hippopotamus?
No, that's. Yeah. That's fair,that's fair.
Hippos hit.
(22:41):
Hippos can scary.
You know,they have a hippo problem
in Colombiabecause of Pablo Escobar.
Oh, because he brought so many.
They brought some in,and they started breeding
and got loose and,like, just went into the lakes.
Yeah.
Was like one of his has,
like, one of his propertiesis overrun by something. Yeah.
He thought he wasgetting a mudding and he did.
I believe
I think this is a well-knownfact as it goes around
all the timethat they kill more people than.
(23:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Hippos are scary. Yep.
This large amount of animalsrequired some extra structures
built on the ranch animalenclosures, an elephant barn,
an animal hospital, and afour and a half ton freezer.
But all for all the food.
For all the food.
So a freezerthat can accommodate
four and a half ton of meat.Yeah.
(23:25):
As well as extra buildingsneeded for the film staff
services, editing roomsand a mini.
Mini. Filming studio.
By 1973,monetary issues were arising.
You don't say the.
Cost of crew and food forthe animals was 4000 a.
Week. Oh.
In 1970 money.
So that's about $8 milliontoday.
(23:46):
That's
family assets were sold off,and family members would have
to take on extra dutiesto cover the crew tasks.
John called in Curtisfrom calls.
Yeah, yeah, they could
no, no, you gotta haveis 31 lives and feed him
for ten months.
Yeah, he's a bag of cheesebecause $11.50.
Nah, not the whole meals. $10.
(24:08):
No. You see, actually,you only use about
one eighth of the cheese,so really, it's only about $2.
Even though. This bag of cheeseonly comes in one.
Kilo variety,we're not counting.
So we're not countingoil. We're not counting the.
Oh, countingthe rent in the water bill can.
Pay to use the kitchen or.
Keep the cheesecold in the fridge. Yeah.
(24:29):
John Marshallso some of his duties
that he tookan extra was an animal wrangler.
Yep. Set mechanic.Boom. Operator.
Oh, and camera operator.
Okay.
He also undertook
veterinary work,
such as giving vaccines
and drawing bloodfrom the animals. Not.
No, thank you.
Drawing vaccines to. Lions.
Yeah, that's a lot of lions.
It's a lot of needles.That's a lot of nails.
(24:51):
Have you ever seen. No.Thank you.
Have you seen.
How they likethey lice dip or whatever it is?
Sheep?
Yeah.
Let's look for the cage overthe top of it.
You heard me. Do a cage.Put a thing on top.
Cage guys in the eye.Just drop them in the dip.
Hold him down to the bubble.Stop them.
Bring them back up.
It's so awful.
Well, they do the samefor cattle, for tick dipping.
(25:11):
Yeah.
Well, that covers pre-production
in the backgroundside of things.
So let's now look at the movieitself and its production,
our first kind of hit,the synopsis from
Where do I get this from?
I am on. IMDb.
I think I know IMDb was like oneand a half sentences, so yeah.
So it's Wikipedia.
No, I think I got ChatGPT
to give me a synopsiswithout ruining things
(25:33):
because otherwise, yeah, highly.Likely this is inaccurate.
Raw is about HankMarshall, an American naturalist
living alone on a wildlifepreserve in Africa, surrounded
by dozens of free roaming lionsand other big cats.
When his wife and childrentravel to reunite with him,
they arrive to find the compoundcompletely overrun by animals.
With Hank missing,the family struggles
(25:53):
to stay togetherand avoid dangers.
As lions wanderthrough the house,
math people down and turneveryday life into chaos.
When Hank finally returns,
he insiststhe animals are harmless
and must be protected,and the film ends
with the familyaccepting a fragile,
uneasy coexistencebetween humans and nature.
Leaf stones stay in the house.
(26:15):
Get out! Yeah.
If there was a lionin this room, I'm not going one.
We should probably just hangin one line. What about 50?
You know, maybe.
The lion just wantsto peacefully coexist, you know.
It's a good name.
Cocaine bear all over again.
Just. Just leave. Yeah.
So, as I said
earlier, principal photographystarted October 1st, 1976
(26:35):
and was scheduled to lastsix months.
Nice. This quicklyballooned out.
One reason was filmingwas restricted
to five months at a time,
because the cottonwood treeson set with ten brand
from November until March.
So for consistency, also filming
the big capsbig cats proved to be difficult.
The cinematographerwho would like to direct speed
(26:56):
would end upsetting like would set up hours,
would spend hourssetting up five cameras
ready for the catsto do something
that could be includedin the film,
which just.
Didn't happen because the cats.
Cats? Yep. Yeah.
Eventually the filming processwould change
to a more documentary stylewith eight Panavision cameras.
So I'd like just
set them up with the water thingand just being able to.
(27:19):
Yeah.
When something happens, Google,
rather than having to set upfor the shot each.
Time, that's a lot. Of peoplejust hanging out.
Hanging out.
One scene, which, had no drive,a 1937 Chevy
containing two tigerstook seven weeks to film
as the animals needed to betrained to ride in the car.
(27:39):
Seven weeks to film.
One shot was shot day, and.
It's only meant to takesix months.
I shot like the Tropic Thunder.
Like, yeah. What line?
How are you already three monthsbehind?
It's been two days.
Another scene had Tippi
cover her face in honeyand had a leopard lick it off.
Oh, thanks.
Tippi herself
(28:00):
later said that this wasone of the most dangerous scenes
because even though trainerswere only 2.5m away,
they would not have been able
to stop theanimal if it decided to bond.
Other scenes had
some cats being shotby the hunters.
But like by hunters,
this effect was doneby filming the animals
when they were tranquilizedfor their annual blood draw.
(28:22):
So like thatwould be taking animal bloods
to make sure they're healthyand all that.
So they just filmed him,
put him to sleep,like actual sleep did?
Yeah.
Still,
I mean, that's pretty smart.
I suppose, but.
Overall, filming tookfive years to complete. Yep.
Even with principal filmingending in October of 1979,
just over three yearspickup shops, pick up
(28:43):
shots were filmed in Kenyaduring the editing stage,
making total production time11 years.
Oh oh.
Okay.Yeah. Like from conception.
Yeah. To 1969.
Yep. Nice. Yeah.
The other thingthat kept delaying filming
was that the animals justcouldn't
stop attacking the attacking.
The castand crew of the estimated 140
(29:06):
personcrew, at least 70 were injured.
During a 2015 interview, John
Marshall said he believedthe number was over 100.
So let's get into the injuriesthat made this movie
the most dangerous film evermade.
Oh, dear.
Line by line, by.
Line by line. Scratch. Yeah. No.
(29:26):
You pretty much. No, no.
Marshall suffered these duringthe course of the filming.
He was bitten through the hand
when interactingwith male lines.
Lines? During a fight scene.
Doctors initially thoughthe was going to lose his arm.
And I believe that incidentis actually in the film,
so I like what.They just put it in. Yep.
(29:46):
They left it in time.
Like,
I read a thing where you can seehim, like something happens.
He looks at his hand,quickly, shakes the thing,
and then keeps going like, yeah.
So I was bittenthrough the hand.
Oh, he was bittena total of 11 times
and requiring hospitalizationfrom face and chest bites. Yep.
Also from the injuries.
He had blood poisoning
(30:07):
and developed gangrene,as well as multiple concussions
from being knockedover by the large animals.
Yeah.
Because he had a concussion.
Feels like the safest thing
that could happen to youwith a lion tip.
He wasn't immune from injuries,either.
She was bitten on the headby cherries.
The lion whoseteeth scraped tbe skull.
She had a trip to the
(30:28):
hospital after, Tembo,which was the elephant.
Yeah, so I don't I.
Know he broke her ankle.
He picked her up by the anklewith his trunk, fracturing it.
That's a pretty funny.
Aside from aside from the pain.
That sounds like fun.
Yeah, right. Like.
Yeah. Wait.
It like
(30:48):
I've always wanted in my lifeto feel like I'm
absolutely insignificant tosomething much larger than me.
How to do it in the most fun waypossible.
Elephant picking you up. Gooutside and stare at the cosmos.
Or get picked up by an elephant.Yeah.
Always fancy being flung aroundlike Hong Kong.
Hang out with an elephant.
The elephant also bucked heroff. Off his back.
Oh, really? Oh,that's a long way down.
That is a. Long way down.
(31:09):
Tippy said.
Tembo was trying to keep her
from falling,so I was not at fault.
I mean, it sounds likehe kind of caused the problem.
Tippy also developed a gangreneinfection.
Oh, come on, man.
From that, from that incident.
Also days before,Tembo had backed off his trainer
and, the trainer had fallen intoa tree and broke her shoulder.
All these peoplegetting gangrene so much.
(31:30):
It happens all the time.
But it's like.
70s. It's not. The Lions live.
With 150 wild animals.
It's like complete
lack of blood flowto an injury or in general.
I okay, maybe I'm just likeputting a modern lens on it.
TB was also scratched on the armby a leopard
and bitten on the chestby a cougar.
Come on man.
Melanie Griffith,
a teenagerat the time of filming,
(31:51):
was bitten on the faceby a lioness.
Initial fees werethat she would lose an eye.
However, receiving 50 stitchesand some facial reconstruction,
she recoveredwithout being disfigured.
I mean, I'd arguethat point, but.
Yeah, well.
As bad as it could be, like
if you've seen the photo,I mean, you can tell you
can now that you know you likethat is definitely a.
(32:11):
It wasn't a Melanie. Griffith.
Melanie Griffith.That is definitely a lion bite.
Melanie Griffith GriffithGriffiths Griffith I'm kidding.
Is Griffith. Geez.Oh yeah, I can see that.
Yeah. She's not around.You can see it around here.
I can't tell you about that.
But yeah. Yeah.
Like her eyes are actually,like, slightly offset.
So not make the supplementalcontent on the socials.
(32:32):
Yeah.
We're not gonnawe're not going to judge
somebody's faceafter a lion attack. Howie, you.
Can you can search up anywhere.She's a woman act.
Melanie Griffith.
Lion attack.
Oh, there's a photo of somebody
jumping in a pool with a liongrabbing their leg.
Oh, this is crazy. Yeah.
Oh, likeI said, a lot of these injuries
were caught on filmbecause they were filming.
(32:53):
Yeah.
Watch a lion maul MelanieGriffith and roll.
Paulo,these are the proud creatures.
The young Polly. Paula is going.
To legally a.Lion. Completely related to.
Come on, buddy,get off your jaw.
If you tell.
A lion just how. Tough you are.
Paula.Go on, Paula, getting shot.
But my face.
Come on, buddy, get up here.
(33:13):
Come on.
Paulahas had a very bad haircut.
Thanks to that.
Would not.
Recommend.
Lions,Kings of the African Sahara.
Apollo, a lion that you. But
a lion jumped on John
Marshall Marshall and beganto bite the back of his head.
Oh, it took six minutesto separate the line from him,
and he's wound. Required 56stitches.
(33:36):
Or for.
Jerry Marshall was bitten onthe thigh by a lion while he was
in a cage on set, and he was,
hospitalized
alongside Tippi for a monthdue to the bite.
Lots of arteries.
How many people werein his hospital?
Over 70 of the crew were.
Yeah. No.But at once, I don't know.
I didn't say a berry is. He'sa lion.
(33:58):
Look at. His face.His face in the sky.
I think that camera, didn'tsay what?
Like at the same time.
Just that those two werehospitalized at the same time.
The cinematographerI mentioned earlier,
he was scalped by cherrieswhile filming under a tarp.
He required 220 stitches,but resumed his duties
after recovering.
(34:18):
Now, I didn't I didn't,mention his name, but he did go
on, I think, to direct speed.
It was called The busthat couldn't slow down.
That's the Simpsons bit.
So, there's
actuallyquite a lot of people on here
who went on to have some quite
prominent careers in the filmindustry. Yeah, because.
Everyone you can put up withthat, you can be in a movie.
(34:42):
Toga.
One of the lead lines.
It's literally due.
He couldn't stop himselfto sleep.
Sleep face first into the wall.
Apollo just jumped upon the counter behind.
Us, and Kings of the safari.
So yeah.
So jungle everything. Net.
And look at it.Work it out. That light.
Anyway.
(35:02):
Tiger, one of the lead lions bit
assistant director in the throatand jaw and tried to pull one
pull off. One of his is.
This was due to him accidentallysignaling the lion to attack.
He also received injuriesto his scalp, chest and thought
and had to go and had to undergoa 4.5 hour surgery.
I'm just going to suggest thatmaybe don't work with lions.
(35:24):
Alternatively,clearly they had auditions
to make surethis lion could be the leader,
and I want to knowwhat that callback was like.
I'm sorry that.
After witnessing that attack,20 of the crew left collectively
and did not return. I yeah,
that's no season.
That'sno fun to the movie with money
he made from being the producer
of the Exodus, rumorsbegan to spread
(35:45):
that the movie was plaguedby the curse of the Exorcist.
No. Damn. Oh, no, I don't think.
Come on. No, it's not,it's just.
It's just got 71 lions on.
It's just. It's just got 150wild animals.
I'm certainly not curse.It's just. Really dumb.
I don't.
Know, we've talked abouta lot of curses on this podcast.
Through.
Unfortunately,the animals weren't
the only thing to cause damage.
(36:06):
On February 9th, 1978,after a night of heavy rain,
flooding from nearbypipes and berms
which were put in placeto direct water
away from the Southern PacificRailroad tracks, caused
a three meter flood,destroying the ranch.
Four sound crew membershad to be rescued from the flood
with no leaving hospital.
I'm assuming because no,because he was there
(36:28):
having knee surgery.
I don't know,because he was bitten by a
tigeror a lawn or something that,
he returned from hospitalto help rescue, the animals.
15 of the lionsand tigers escaped from fences
being knocked down.
And local law enforcementhad to put down.
I think three of them.
I didn't, all of them,
but I think three, includingI think Tiger was one of them.
(36:50):
Oh no. The leadlion. Or the lead line.
What are you going to do?The leading man.
He was replaced.Yeah, obviously.
The flooding causedthe surrounding lake
to be filledwith two meters of sediment,
and most of the setediting equipment and film stock
were also destroyed, totaling$3 million worth of damage.
Wow. Production was halted
for 12 monthsto allow the area to recover,
(37:11):
and it took eightmonths to rebuild. The set
as well.
They planted 700 replacementtrees, so all resolved.
After the flood.
So everything was resolved
just for a series of 12bush fires
to break out in Californiain September.
So they floodedand then bush fires.
Oh, wow.
(37:31):
Wildfires is the Americans call.
It's the.Santa. Real Australian.
Yeah, Santa.
Real Australian deadlyanimals flood fire.
It's a little known factthat Lemony Snicket
Series of Unfortunate Events
is actually a dramatic retellingof the country of Australia.
Every week in Australia. Yes,
the film didn't shy away fromhow dangerous it was either.
They embraced it.
(37:53):
The first injuryI mentioned with the handprint
that's in the movie. Yes,we covered that.
Most of the injuries
that occurredwere caught on film, and again,
a lot of them were includedin the film.
Even in the rerelease trailerthat was out
ten years ago,they say in the trailer,
quoting, like,we can look this up.
After livedwith 150 untried, trained
(38:15):
wild animals to create
what became the mostdangerous movie ever made
and then pops up.
No animals were harmedin the making of this film.
Except the ones are dead.
70 membersof the cast and crew were.
Didn'tyou just say that some animals.
Well,that wasn't during making that.
The film.
They weren'tharmed for the purpose
of making the film there.
You know that's a. Prettythey unfortunate.
(38:37):
Crisp, unfortunate technicality.
Unfortunate.Quoting hit fix here.
I don't know who fixesbut someone.
They say it's like WaltDisney went insane and shot
a snuff version of the SwissFamily Robinson.
Wow. That's that is.
Descriptive.
And then when introducingthe actors in the trailer,
(38:58):
much like whatAaron does in their podcast,
like they come upwith their name,
they have the taglineof the injuries
they sustained underneath it.No ice.
So I'm gonna put our injuriesthis time.
Oh no.
They're I'm gonna have to havea whole frame.
It's just it's just fun.
I'm like, Steve-O does, like,a mug shot list.
(39:19):
Just like those imagesthat are, like, where it hurts.
Funny. It's just. All red.
Yeah, for me, it's
just a compilation of all of allthe seasons of MTV's scars.
Can you do chases?
Just delete them.
Just like it's just a pictureof man with no right like it.
Oh, still could do, did I?
(39:41):
You know.
I was like, man, I hope you keepdoesn't have your days.
It'd be like, hell.
He did say that his knee hurt.
Oh he's like,oh no, it's starting.
To sound that defeated.
Yeah I can confirmhe has his dad's fringe.
And I was like, oh man, he'sgot your hair, you guys.
Yeah, he does.
Part of the reasonit was rereleased
was because originallythe movie wasn't released
(40:02):
theatricallyin North America. Wow.
So all this time and money and.
Too hot for. Theaters?
Yeah, but not for Mozambique.
Or was the number one it.
Tippy stated that they wouldn'trelease it because distributors
distributors, sorry, wantedthe lion's share of the profits.
Yeah.
Good. On to, good one tippers.
(40:23):
Which the couple had hoped that
they would use to carefor the film's animals.
It actually made its screendebut
in on October30th, 1981, in Sydney.
And of course, yeah.
Yeah, the Country of Unfortunate
Events is like,yeah, this is normal.
And had a one week distributionin Australia and in the UK. It
(40:45):
also released in Japan, Germanyand Italy at the box office.
It did good. Didn't do great.
A world wide grossexcluding the US of 2 million.
Remember how that budgetblew out?
Yeah, yeah.
The movie cost17 million to make.
Oh, oh. That is a deficit.
Which is also way short of TV'sprediction of the film
(41:08):
making 125 to.
Yeah, 50 million much.
Yeah, that's quiteshort. That's a little bit.
Yeah.
2015 saw
the rerelease 34 yearsafter its initial release.
It was picked up by Drafthousefounder Tim Leak
and initially had a runin six Drafthouse theaters
(41:28):
before expanding to 50 cities.
So yeah, 2015,it was back in the movies.
Which I actually thoughtwas really interesting
since we had that big movie talkbefore the episode.
I'm like, you guys don't knowwhat you're getting into.
Ghetto me
the financial failureput a stop to the plans
of using the profitsto fund the animals retirement.
No. And Tippi grew distant,and they divorced.
(41:51):
In 1982.
Tippi founded the RoarFoundation and established
Shambala Preserve in 1983 tohouse all of the film's animals.
Nice.
She still advocates for animalrights and opposes exploitation,
and even though they had split
nor providedmost of the financial support
for the preserve,but he rarely attended, saw it
(42:12):
not being with the animalshe loved and raised.
He never directedanother film and died in 2010.
Tippi is alive today.
He is 95 years old.
Not recently featured.
Well, recently,probably ten years ago.
Now featured in the televisionshow Cougar Town
where she went on a forced date,effectively with the actor.
(42:33):
The playsBob Kelsey from scrubs. I'm not.
So that
is the story of themost dangerous movie ever made.
And I kind of did a little bitof a thing where I'm like,
what is the most dangerousmovie ever made?
And there was a bunch ofmovie was on there
that we could go intoanother time.
Roar was number one.
And yeah, I can see why.
That had on the listwas the Crow, obviously.
(42:56):
For reasons. Yeah.
The Twilight Zone moviefor other reasons.
We can get into itanother episode, but.
Surely was it was?
Yes. Wizard ofOz was on the list, I think.
Yeah.
It's crazy to me that they
went through all of this for itto basically flop and be like,
you can't even say it now.
It, it did have a Blu rayrelease a couple of years ago,
(43:16):
and it had a, actuallyVHS release, like back then.
Just afterthat first run. They did,
it kind of got a bit of a cultfollowing.
There wasn'ta lot of those tapes made,
so they became actuallyvery expensive, actually.
So you think you can purchase it
through Prime Video,but it's not on any streaming?
(43:37):
Yeah.
It's probably on the horse's.
Yeah, you're probably part ofit don't mean.
We don't advocate piracy.Okay. Sorry.
Cheeky title says noto illegally pirating movies.
Guitar says no to getting VPNand did
BitTorrent programand downloading it illegally.
But the thing that.
I would say absolutelyyes to Nord VPN sponsoring.
(43:59):
This Nord VPN, please.
The thing that amazed me is that
no one thought, yeah, yeah.
No one. Why?
A lot of people got mauled.
The man that famously got upset
when no one died,and another episode
did an episode when no one died.
I don't even get eaten.
That boring. Episode.
Little boring.
If I hate this.And everything about this sucks,
(44:23):
that's what you're like.
And I know no one.I hate. Anyone.
You wish.You literally built it.
All up and was like, yeah,nothing happened.
What episode was that again?
Shackleton.That's from what's happened.
The insurance. Yeah.
What's happened is no one died.
That was good. Whiskey too high.
Pitched voice tone is this.
I was worked up about like the.
Director speed ended uphaving 220 stitches in his head.
(44:45):
Yeah. That's something.
And you made a movieabout a boss?
He was the only,you know, remember that?
He was the only unionizedmember. Yeah.
No, that was abig set up for nothing.
Yeah, I just it just from.I just remember.
We'll get episode. Boy,that was fun, right? It was a.
Yeah.
If you liked,animals living in the house,
maybego give dolphin history. No,
(45:08):
it's very rare for a podcastto say maybe, don't we?
I like to beginmy formal petition for 2026.
So we're not removing itto remove. It.
From Podbean. Nope.
We are not cowards on this show.
It's an interesting story.It's getting a taste.
No, it's just icky.It was interesting.
I can't say. It'snot interesting.
(45:28):
It's gross, not interesting.
It's ick.
But just don't make that one
the one you listen towith your kids.
When you tell people, hey,I listen to this great podcast.
It's popular history,it's funny stories,
it's banter, it's everything.
You should definitely banter.
You should listento the dolphin house first.
No, no, not first, not first.
No, no.
Go listen to 1904 Olympics.
(45:50):
Yeah, I went to get into deepcuts. Light.
I like dolphin. House.
Do 1904 Olympics. Dude.
Doctor pepper.
Game to Dan.
Yeah, Dan.
Sickles.
Personally, I do the baseball.
You three baseball players.That's a good one.
Yeah,I still like hanging garden.
Hanging garden is a good one.
That had a good twist.I don't know, go twist.
I actually think Battleof Surfaces is the business.
(46:14):
Don't bother with that one.
They thought
that was pretty weak storythat they're still fighting for.
That affects your bell curveso much for like
quality of episodeis battle of the
so we've all got an episodethat affects our bell curve.
Mine's quite short
so it's on a nice edgeand all it takes is one flop
and I'm done. Flop and Shaun.What's on.
Your worst episode? Your flop.
Oh, Jones.
(46:35):
Flop. Be
I don't knowI don't know what your flop is.
And we'll have to go backand look at all the, It
Christmas truce.
No, it was all right.
You can't count holiday episodesthat I can't.
Let's goback. Was it. Yeah. We stories.
Let'sput it out to the listeners.
Yeah, yeah,because I'm a nonbeliever.
So that's unfairbecause I obviously think
it was a flopbecause of some skeptic.
Yeah.
(46:55):
What do you think was John'sworst episode?
Hit us up on Facebookand Instagram.
Yeah. If I was going to not ex.
We're done with it.
We're done with. That. It sucks.
It is up on Tumblr.
What about BBS?
What are we going to beas a camp?
A what was your.
No, no.
I think I tried to sign upfor that.
It was very difficult.
(47:16):
Yeah.
Anywaywe going to be at the B. Yes.
To set us up on the Barmy ArmyFacebook page.
This, this flood them withquestions about this podcast.
But what do you think Joe Jones.
Hey we could get a Barmy Armychant at the next Ashes Test.
Like like this thing and cheekytowels. That'd be great.
That'd be great.
We could just record an episodefrom the ashes.
(47:37):
Yeah.
Oh, hey, Mitchell. Starc,your bowling is bad.
Battle of the surfaces.Yeah. There you go.
That's, That's terrible.
Why is this half turf off clay?
That'd be theworst cricket game of all time.
Yeah.
All right. Well, good at boy.
Thank you.
That's right. Let's wrapthis up. I enjoyed that story.
Yeah. Good one.
Let's go watch the trailer.Yeah, yeah.
(47:59):
All right.
Go do that at home as well.
Yeah. Go watch the trial. Yeah.All right. Well.
Good night.Thank you for listening.
We'll see.
Well, we'll see you in a month.
Have a lovely trip, boy.
Thank you.And have a merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas everyone.
Happy holidays. Yeah.
And take it easy.
Take it.
Do not do that again.
(48:20):
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(49:01):
I'm disappointed I said
Dolphin fugging....
It is oneof our most brought up episodes.
However, it isalso the least
talked about episode.
Dolphin House.
No Sean, this isn’t astory about boats
or World War 2.Good.
Or dolphin fugging.
But there will be water!Nooooo!
Yes. Splash Mountain.
(00:21):
The episode I'm talking aboutis not Dolphin House.
But today's episodeis a spiritual successor
to that story.
It's as if Dolphin Houseand the first spooky
spectacular had a baby.
Oh gross....
We're heading to Africa,Hollywood and the emergency
room.
Over and over and over again.
(00:42):
Welcome to Cheeky Tales,
and this is the story of themost dangerous movie ever made.
The 1981 film, Roar.
No connection to Katy Perry. Oh.
(01:04):
Well, well, well,
if it isn't the most ickyepisode we've done.
Dolphins. Dolphins?
No, this isn't about dolphinHouse.
There's no dolphins inthis story.
Oh, good. Icky.
I really thought you were
going to talk about that, actionpark.
You know that the theme parkthat killed a bunch of people.
Amazons? No. No, no.
(01:24):
Action park.
Oh, I don't know about that one.
Amazons.That's the Australian one.
Is the waterparkthat they close?
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't. Know anything. Else.
No. Action Park was bad.
Yeah. No. Not action.
Not action park. No, no.I don't even know about that.
Have you ever heard of thismovie?
No. Good. Okay.
Good. Go. I'm excited.
(01:46):
Good. Oh.
Are you just going to pause nowand watch the entire movie?
No, because, I mean, if we maybe
if we
purchased it on Prime Video,but it's not on any streaming,
platforms. I've already looked.
That's a shame. Yeah.
So roar.
Roar.
Okay.
More cursed than jawsand The Wizard of Oz. Yes.
I wouldn't say curse,but more dangerous.
(02:09):
Do we want to addressnext week first?
They're all doing it.
Okay, moving on with the Raven.
We got no news.
Is good news, as they say.
Going to be,going to be busy for three.
Weeks.
Doing some stuff, maybeseeing the Bucs play in Tampa,
maybe kissing the Empire StateBuilding on the lips.
(02:30):
John,what are you going to be bloody
doing something for Christmas?
You'regoing to be up to something.
I'm going to be at home.
Oh, cool.
You bloody.
You got stuff to do? You.
Church's moved out, so he's.
He's busy with. That.What if we talked him to him?
I was like,
someone'sgetting doxed to this thing.
Sign. It's not. Get it baby.
Shorts are.
Get boxes at a new place. Yeah.
(02:53):
Yeah.
So we're finally a location.
I've moved from Burpengaryto Walkabout.
So it's end of year business.
Yeah.
So we we will be giving, thethe Christmas episode,
a miss, actually.
Would it be a New Year'sepisode?
I think it'll be a New Year'sepisode. Look, let's be real.
We we said last year that we'verun out of Christmas stories.
(03:17):
There's just noChristmas stories anymore.
We're gonna turn into a LindsayLohan movie.
We're going to be hashing stuff.
We do have Christmas coloredlights.
That's the only reference.
That's it.
Sorry, folks.
Have a rest from Christmas.
I would like to do a LindsayLohan movie.
That it would bereally fun to be in that.
But we will be backin the new year.
And we willhave the now annual t shirt,
(03:40):
competition.
Sean will make
you a custom t shirt
if you do a specific thingin that episode.
Now, that's in the new
is that if we've got timeto record that episode.
But we're not going to havea New Year's.
No, we're not going to have anyis episode.
So that won't that won't work.
Yeah.
But, Sean will dosome sort of shirt giveaway.
He promises.
Yeah, I'll find a finda reason to do a shirt giveaway.
(04:01):
Yeah.
Maybe our most avidlistener will might actually win
this one for me the other day
that he's about to finishevery episode
that we've ever done. Nice.
Which makes him
in the top 0.01% of listeners,which is very impressive.
I hope we showed upin his Spotify Wrapped.
I would assume that it would
show up in the Spotifyright for him.
So shout out to Will.Good on you, big dog.
(04:22):
If we didshow up in your Spotify app,
send the screenshot to us.
Yeah,it'd be pretty cool to say yeah.
Maybe. Maybe. No,that didn't do it for podcast.
Should we do it?
Should we doone of them done videos then?
What?
You know, the like the
the listening goalis where the goal is for.
Thank you.
Thanks so much for listeningto us. And this year.
Like make sure. To likefor that.
(04:42):
Isn't that next year? Next year.All right. Yeah. Next to you.
We going to be backwith more episodes.
Yeah.Like I got. One in the studio.
But to be fair,I like completely off topic.
My Spotify wrapped,
because I do a lot of music onreading that's just completely
boring music, like maybe moviesoundtrack stuff or something.
So I had, like, bear McCreary,the guy that I was like,
(05:04):
music for things like Outlanderand like Vikings and
and TV shows becauseI was reading books. My cool.
This is like really good bookrating music.
I can't imagine that. Was that.
Peoplethat had van McCreary for them.
Can't imagine.I can't believe he even did one.
I was like,good on him. Did you get one?
Yeah, I got, the band neck deep.
Yeah, yeah. Did you get there?Yeah. You got there?
Yeah. Who did you get?
I think I had Mark Schneider,Mike Shinoda.
(05:26):
Yeah, well.
I had one from the regulationpodcast as well.
Oh, there you go.
My other top artist was MF doom,but rest in pepperonis.
I wasn't getting a videofrom him.
Pocketcasts, the podcast app of choice
for the Cheeky Tales boys.
And by that I mean me.
Yeah,you're these both on Spotify.
Yeah, they did a wrapped
(05:47):
and it was likeyou listened to 19,300
and something minutes of podcast
this year, and I went,oh jeez, that's a lot.
And then Jeezy sent me.
He's he's donelike 39,000 minutes.
Like, what the hell?
I think I was atI think 42 Spotify.
Yeah. Oh Spotify as well.Yeah. No, no.
Just podcast minutes on Spotify.Oh right.
(06:09):
Because I'm not.
Work. I'm trying to him.
Anyway, speaking of podcast,we should do one.
Yeah,we start with married couple.
No, Marshall and Tippi Hedren.
All of Tippi?
No. Was born in 1931and had 11 youngest siblings.
It's like you. Lovethis specific Tippi.
It is. It'll be the.
(06:29):
Jimi Hendrix of classic.Actress.
She's a well-known.Oh, was an actor?
Yeah, she's an actress.Okay. She wasn't a hard hit.
All right, all right.
I'd like to retract my comment.
He's. Now. He's got it.
It's the best.
Any other tips?No. There's no any other to.
Not imagine.There's many tapes at all.
So, no.
Had 11 younger siblingsand early on in his career,
(06:50):
worked a summer jobat Saint Louis Zoo
before moving to Hollywood inhis 20s to work in television.
Saint Louis, Missouri.
That don't say home of the Rams.
They don't say their stateproperly.
Missouri. Missouri.
As a Hollywood agent.
One of his clientswas William Blatty,
who wrote the novelThe Exorcist.
(07:10):
Originally, but he had a dealwith producer producer.
Patricia Patricia, producer.
Paul Monash.
But they clashed over plotchanges and Monash left crashed.
What? Christ did I say? Christ.
Now he's now. Tryingto find a way to add that in.
No. Was
made executiveproducer of the film
(07:33):
after marriage film.
Yeah. After we,I'm talking about The Exorcist.
So he was a producerof The Exorcist?
After marrying and divorcinghis first wife, he was the agent
and manager for TippiHedren before marrying her.
TV, believe itor not, is not her real name.
It is not Hedren.
(07:54):
Not like Natalie.
Like Natalie with a. Yes.
No I thought. Yeah.
I don't know how you say thatname.
Kirstie Alley.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
I think that's probably moreaccurate. Natalie.
Kirstie, did, coach me on it?
Because she knew someone
who had this name,and apparently
they were very specificin saying it's not Natalie.
(08:15):
It's nothing. Really. Natalie.
Okay.
I've seen someone with it speltlike that, and they had it.
Natalie.They said it like Natalie.
Oh, okay.
Yeah. So I bet it's differentfor everybody.
S different for everyone. Yeah.
Anyway, I'm just goingto call Tippi from now on
because that is what she isknown as.
She was born in 1930 and startedher career as a fashion model,
(08:36):
appearing on the front coversof life and Glamor magazines.
She made her big screen debutafter Alfred Hitchcock
spotted her on a TV commercial,became her drama coach,
and cast her in his 1963film The Birds.
Oh, yeah.
That's.
Yeah, that's that's most of it.
As Melanie Daniels dumped herone of the leading roles
(08:58):
in the film continuum.
I'm still in Hitchcock.It was Hitchcock.
It was Hitchcock'sPsycho as well.
I don't think he was.
No, no.
Anyway, no, I think he waspretty aware in the head.
Oh, you mean that movie?
Oh, didn't.
He might be gladwe're having a wake up.
We need a week.
We need a week off of that.
(09:20):
She also won the Golden Globe
for New Star of the yearfor that role.
Her career spans
more than 80 productionsin film and television,
and she has a staron the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
Tippi had a daughter,Melanie Griffith.
Yes, the famous one known forthe 1988 film Working Girl.
And in
(09:40):
1957, to her, like shehad her with, her first album.
Husband.How about how about husband?
Husband?Who is a producer husband.
And you give him Peter Griffith.
And, she divorced him in 1960and then married now in 1964.
Okay.Do you mean divorced him? Yeah.
(10:01):
Divorced him or to get SeanConnery?
He's got be Tudor Welsh.
Rock on a pancake.
One last personal noteto his granddaughter, meaning
Melanie's daughter is alsoan actress, Dakota Johnson.
Oh, there you go.
The one that I always get,mixed up with Dakota Fanning.
Yeah. How?
Oh, because.They both called Dakota man.
(10:23):
Dakota Johnson is of 50 Shadesof Gray fame and Madame Web.
I was going to saythe spider lady.
Can't rememberthe name of the slides.
Of great fame and, Madame Web.
Infamy.
What doyou think is a great movie?
Dude, she was so bad.
She was so bad. And.
They took her offthe promotional
because she was baggingthe movie
in, like, the first interview.
(10:44):
She was going around just being,like, this movie's garbage.
And so they took her out andmade Sydney Sweeney more of a,
prominent figure in the movie.
Actually,I haven't seen it, cause
I heard it was pretty good.I feel. Sorry.
I feel sorry for actors.
You you go and you make a movie,and you do your best effort,
and then they.
Let's just be blunt.
They edit it like shit. Yeah.
(11:04):
And then you watch itand you go,
I can't even do anythingabout this.
I did my best with the direction
I was given,and then I edit it like crap.
Justice League. There,I said it.
There's movies that are just badperformances and bad scripts.
There is so much squad. Yeah.
What do you. Mean?
Like I will never forget?
Well, that's what I told that.
Crap so bad.
(11:25):
Worst I, I was at a premierewith free tickets
thanks to John,and I almost got up and left.
It was so bad. That movie.
If youhave got up and left a movie
message is on the socials
because I'm actuallyreally curious about it.
I have never.I've never done it.
I've never done it.
My parents famouslygot up and left Moulin Rouge,
(11:47):
which I told my dad
about the other day,that I actually love that movie,
and I said he was crazy for it.
He proceeded to scoff and walkaway without saying anything.
So he got up and leftthe movie theater of your house.
So if you.
Nicole Kidman, Ewan McGregor.
A great soundtrack.
What's not to love?
Bit of TV. Well, it was great.
(12:07):
I think you dad's crazy.
If you've walked outof the movie, please.
Yeah, I want to knowbecause it's funny.
Yeah. Kirstie, you almost,
walkedout of Wolf of Wall Street.
Really?
Well, she didn't know whatit was about.
I kind of didn't know whatit was about.
We thought it was more of a
actualstockbroking type of movie.
Like something a bit moreintelligent than what it was.
(12:29):
Why would you want to see that?
That's just boring shit.It does.
We just just made money.
We just. Stocks are at 1.5%today.
Sell sell, sell.
I made $1.8 million buy credits.
So it's a little known
that stock
brokers actuallywere just really boring people
that didn'tdo a bunch of debaucherous crap.
(12:49):
They're actually just nerds.Just Bill gates.
Okay. Moving on.
We're in the year of 1969.
Nice.
That's a nice one.
Yes, I do have six dogs,as opposed to a spiteful.
I've got that written down.
No. Nope.
We're in Mozambique,
and Toby was filming for Satan'sHarvest near.
(13:10):
That's it.
They came across an abandonedplantation house,
Barong Goza National Park.
It was in
that place, I think.
Yeah,I think I know the first guy.
I'm not going to try it again.
You stitched.
Yourself upwith the hottest place names.
To pronounce.
Three.
It's fun. It's fun. You just.
You stop being, like,just episodes
(13:32):
based solely in America.
Like, which had been overrun.
So this plantation housewas overrun by a pride of lions.
And we're toldby that local guard
that the animal populations
were becoming endangereddue to poaching.
And this was their inspirationto make a movie.
Yeah. Ron.
This quote is from TPfrom parade magazine.
(13:54):
Heard of this?
Now that you mentioned the housefull of Lions.
Yeah. Anyway. Go on.
So yeah, this is a quotefrom Tippi from parade magazine.
It was an amazing thing to see.
The lions were sittingin the windows.
They were going inand out of the doors.
They were sittingon the verandas.
They were on topof the Portuguese house,
and they werein front of the house.
It was such a unique thingto see.
And we thought, for a movie,
(14:15):
let us use the great catsas our stars.
They're nice.Nothing can go wrong.
Nothing could go wrong.Yeah. No.
And to be discussed. The conceptwith the family.
Melanie and Noel, three sons,John, Joel and Jerry Marshall,
who all liked the idea andagreed to participate as actors.
So John and I'm.
Just winking. At them, tryingto do foreboding little bits.
(14:36):
Okay, but being that you haven'tdone, I'm just gonna hang on.
Yeah.
Nice.
What do you do?
The good use of the red light.
He just went behind you andgot the little light chasing me.
I just want him to be inJohn's shots. Oh,
so we've all got a.
Foreboding thing, butit's just me and John's camera.
So, yeah, they always wantedto be in the movie.
(14:57):
Except for Joel, who preferredto be art and director.
They visited animal preservesand spoke with line experts,
and learned
that the film would have to bemade in the US, as timelines
weren'ta common occurrence in Africa.
No, I don't think so.
They were also warnedbringing a large number of lions
togetheron set would be impossible.
(15:18):
Instead, it was suggestedthat they obtain their own
animals, raise and train them,and introduce them slowly.
What? Yes.
Yeah.
For this movie, we're goingto need 15 lions from birth.
You, sweet, innocent child.
The movie was estimatedto have a budget of 3 million.
And what year was this again?
(15:39):
1969.
And the concept.
Concept is probablyabout what they spent
on the Apollo missions.
No, no.
Developedthe first script in 1970,
and it had the workingtitle of Lions
Screen script.
Which was laterchanged to Lions.
Lions and More Lions.
(15:59):
Oh that's what.That is a great movie.
I'd go see that.
And that sounds like a strip
club in the Queen StreetMall near KFC.
Lions. Lions!Lions. Mau mau Mau.
I want lions, we got lions.
As he developed the script,
he was inspiredby slapstick comedy
and decided to includea mixture of comedy and drama,
all with the goalof portraying a message
(16:19):
for the need of preservationfor African wildlife.
There's one thing I think of
when I think of fully grown malelions it's comedy, comedy.
Slapstick. Comedy.
This included.It. It did it at a.
Two Lions, doing that thing
where they holding a bit of woodand they turn around smacking.
On it. This included it's.
You Love a.
(16:42):
Picture of the PowerPointone shows.
Up. Yeah.
This included sceneswhere characters would be chased
by the animals and pretendto be scared and scream, but
pretend you're saying
he allowed for the inclusionof spontaneous actions
from the animals,
which led to some of the lionsbeing credited as writers?
Nice.
I like that.
This is some woke.
(17:02):
Bullshit.
Do they have a union? No.
I wonder if that makes. Thempart of Sag-Aftra.
No, they didn't. They?
This was somethingI don't include.
But they did say that,
a lot of the crew onthe film were not.
You know,this was like a nonunion film.
There was only oneunion member in the film
(17:23):
and we'll get to him.Good union.
And it was a lion.
So they began the process.
Unions film.
Well this.
Is not a, not an opinionthat Aaron and John.
Share.
We've spoken about this.
Just for our safety.
So they begin the processof acquiring
and raising their own lionsalong with their family.
(17:44):
Most of the lions were rejects
from zoos, circusesand private owners.
Unableto cope with the responsibility.
As zoorejects is really what you want.
Yeah.
Their first lions lived,slept and ate with them
in their suburban housein Sherman Oaks, California.
Nice.
As you can imagine,the neighbors
and the local authoritiesweren't too thrilled.
(18:04):
Eventually,they brought a large,
secluded ranch 40 miles northof Los Angeles in Soledad Canyon
and would accommodate their
lines and serveas the African set for the film.
After several years of breedingand acquiring other species
of cats, including ayoung African bull elephant,
their labor of love grew
(18:25):
into one of the largest private
collectionsof big cats in the world.
Although tigers.
Sorry.
Lions. Yes.
Although tigers, cougars andjaguars are not found in Africa.
You know, like.
Okay, Tigers.
You know, like lions.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah, Tigers.
I'm sorry, I got confused.
(18:47):
Hey, are you cool?
I thought I was going into it.
I thought I was goinginto a different list.
Are you a little knownCarole like, Carole Baskin
episode that you haven'tfinished her on yet?
No, because I goI go list off the animals next.
Oh, that'swhat I was going to ask.
So although tigers, cougarsand jaguars
are not found in Africa.
No. Found a wayto write them into the story
(19:09):
so they could be in the filmas well. I do.
And once again, the titlechanged to what it is now.
Rah rah rah. Rah.
Rah rah rah. Filming today.
Filming started on
October 1st, 1976.
It does sort.
(19:30):
Oh, cool.
I don't know what it's for.
I'll be back soon.
Justin, this is the kind.
I did like my Myspace
or, like, love modeling.
This is a.
This. Is a visual episode.
On YouTube.
This is what it's likeevery time he does an episode.
I'm getting.
I'm feeling it. Yeah. Yeah.
(19:53):
Finally, filmingstarted on October 1st, 1976,
but by 1979, the family wouldhave the following animals.
71 lions. To 81.
Yeah. So roughly
72 minute 71.
You'reyou're a little 15 candles.
I know.
26 tigers.
(20:15):
That is so many
a tiger.
What? Oh.
Tiger. Lauren. Really?
That's what they went with.
Not like a no. Well, no dialog.
Different thing, isn't it? Yes.
What what what?
Yeah.
To be like a male or a malelion and a female tiger.
They. No no no no no no no.
I'm not having this type of fishbottom lighting thing.
(20:35):
They're both men. Well.
So you're saying if it wasthe head was a fish in the head?
Human legs. That's it.
I don't know. Well,tell him that.
I don't know that either.
Nine black panthers.
This is, like,the worst Christmas song.
Ten cougars.
How? Oh, birds.
(20:56):
Get me upset.
Ferrari.
These.
Do you feel. Randy?
Two jaguars.
I'm not finished yet.
Four leopards.
Sorry.
We're going to appeal to ourAmerican audience as a Jaguar.
All right.
Jaguar.
Two elephants.
Seven. 11. Elephant.
(21:17):
Six. Black swans. Five.
Oh, yeah. That's not all that.
Birds yet for Canadian geese.
Four cranes. Two peacock.
Seven flamingos and a stork.
Canada goose.I love the Canada goose.
So free birds comparedto the others. I don't. Know.
That's just what was listed on.
I generally go in vlogs.
Anyway, flamingos.
(21:37):
They're crazy.
Can I just drophow cool flamingos are?
Do you know how long they live?He does his bird person.
Like like idea.
Yeah.
They live to, like, 80or 90 years old. That's awesome.
You know, they're not actuallynaturally pink.
That's just the toxic toxins
in the waterthat colors their skin.
I did not know that.And I have no food.
Oh, yeah. That food. Yeah.
Because I was.
Saying is also toxic,but they're saying that.
Because I've seen the flamingos
(21:58):
at the Adelaide Zooand they're very pink.
And I don't think the waterin the Adelaide's it.
Yeah. Rest in pepperonis.
You might be right,but it's the food then
that's in there. Yeah.
One of the for for breastin pepperonis reference
one of the flamingosat the Adelaide.
So there was two of them.
Now mind you,
if you see a flamingoat the zoo,
that's probablythe only time you ever going
to see a flamingofor the rest of your life.
Unless you go to Africa, becausethey are Arctic protected.
(22:20):
And there was two
and some people brokenand baited up and it died.
It was 66 years oldor 65 years old
or something like that. Why?
Just cruel.
The only animal that was turneddown,
for what was a hippopotamus?
No, that's. Yeah. That's fair,that's fair.
Hippos hit.
(22:41):
Hippos can scary.
You know,they have a hippo problem
in Colombiabecause of Pablo Escobar.
Oh, because he brought so many.
They brought some in,and they started breeding
and got loose and,like, just went into the lakes.
Yeah.
Was like one of his has,
like, one of his propertiesis overrun by something. Yeah.
He thought he wasgetting a mudding and he did.
I believe
I think this is a well-knownfact as it goes around
all the timethat they kill more people than.
(23:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Hippos are scary. Yep.
This large amount of animalsrequired some extra structures
built on the ranch animalenclosures, an elephant barn,
an animal hospital, and afour and a half ton freezer.
But all for all the food.
For all the food.
So a freezerthat can accommodate
four and a half ton of meat.Yeah.
(23:25):
As well as extra buildingsneeded for the film staff
services, editing roomsand a mini.
Mini. Filming studio.
By 1973,monetary issues were arising.
You don't say the.
Cost of crew and food forthe animals was 4000 a.
Week. Oh.
In 1970 money.
So that's about $8 milliontoday.
(23:46):
That's
family assets were sold off,and family members would have
to take on extra dutiesto cover the crew tasks.
John called in Curtisfrom calls.
Yeah, yeah, they could
no, no, you gotta haveis 31 lives and feed him
for ten months.
Yeah, he's a bag of cheesebecause $11.50.
Nah, not the whole meals. $10.
(24:08):
No. You see, actually,you only use about
one eighth of the cheese,so really, it's only about $2.
Even though. This bag of cheeseonly comes in one.
Kilo variety,we're not counting.
So we're not countingoil. We're not counting the.
Oh, countingthe rent in the water bill can.
Pay to use the kitchen or.
Keep the cheesecold in the fridge. Yeah.
(24:29):
John Marshallso some of his duties
that he tookan extra was an animal wrangler.
Yep. Set mechanic.Boom. Operator.
Oh, and camera operator.
Okay.
He also undertook
veterinary work,
such as giving vaccines
and drawing bloodfrom the animals. Not.
No, thank you.
Drawing vaccines to. Lions.
Yeah, that's a lot of lions.
It's a lot of needles.That's a lot of nails.
(24:51):
Have you ever seen. No.Thank you.
Have you seen.
How they likethey lice dip or whatever it is?
Sheep?
Yeah.
Let's look for the cage overthe top of it.
You heard me. Do a cage.Put a thing on top.
Cage guys in the eye.Just drop them in the dip.
Hold him down to the bubble.Stop them.
Bring them back up.
It's so awful.
Well, they do the samefor cattle, for tick dipping.
(25:11):
Yeah.
Well, that covers pre-production
in the backgroundside of things.
So let's now look at the movieitself and its production,
our first kind of hit,the synopsis from
Where do I get this from?
I am on. IMDb.
I think I know IMDb was like oneand a half sentences, so yeah.
So it's Wikipedia.
No, I think I got ChatGPT
to give me a synopsiswithout ruining things
(25:33):
because otherwise, yeah, highly.Likely this is inaccurate.
Raw is about HankMarshall, an American naturalist
living alone on a wildlifepreserve in Africa, surrounded
by dozens of free roaming lionsand other big cats.
When his wife and childrentravel to reunite with him,
they arrive to find the compoundcompletely overrun by animals.
With Hank missing,the family struggles
(25:53):
to stay togetherand avoid dangers.
As lions wanderthrough the house,
math people down and turneveryday life into chaos.
When Hank finally returns,
he insiststhe animals are harmless
and must be protected,and the film ends
with the familyaccepting a fragile,
uneasy coexistencebetween humans and nature.
Leaf stones stay in the house.
(26:15):
Get out! Yeah.
If there was a lionin this room, I'm not going one.
We should probably just hangin one line. What about 50?
You know, maybe.
The lion just wantsto peacefully coexist, you know.
It's a good name.
Cocaine bear all over again.
Just. Just leave. Yeah.
So, as I said
earlier, principal photographystarted October 1st, 1976
(26:35):
and was scheduled to lastsix months.
Nice. This quicklyballooned out.
One reason was filmingwas restricted
to five months at a time,
because the cottonwood treeson set with ten brand
from November until March.
So for consistency, also filming
the big capsbig cats proved to be difficult.
The cinematographerwho would like to direct speed
(26:56):
would end upsetting like would set up hours,
would spend hourssetting up five cameras
ready for the catsto do something
that could be includedin the film,
which just.
Didn't happen because the cats.
Cats? Yep. Yeah.
Eventually the filming processwould change
to a more documentary stylewith eight Panavision cameras.
So I'd like just
set them up with the water thingand just being able to.
(27:19):
Yeah.
When something happens, Google,
rather than having to set upfor the shot each.
Time, that's a lot. Of peoplejust hanging out.
Hanging out.
One scene, which, had no drive,a 1937 Chevy
containing two tigerstook seven weeks to film
as the animals needed to betrained to ride in the car.
(27:39):
Seven weeks to film.
One shot was shot day, and.
It's only meant to takesix months.
I shot like the Tropic Thunder.
Like, yeah. What line?
How are you already three monthsbehind?
It's been two days.
Another scene had Tippi
cover her face in honeyand had a leopard lick it off.
Oh, thanks.
Tippi herself
(28:00):
later said that this wasone of the most dangerous scenes
because even though trainerswere only 2.5m away,
they would not have been able
to stop theanimal if it decided to bond.
Other scenes had
some cats being shotby the hunters.
But like by hunters,
this effect was doneby filming the animals
when they were tranquilizedfor their annual blood draw.
(28:22):
So like thatwould be taking animal bloods
to make sure they're healthyand all that.
So they just filmed him,
put him to sleep,like actual sleep did?
Yeah.
Still,
I mean, that's pretty smart.
I suppose, but.
Overall, filming tookfive years to complete. Yep.
Even with principal filmingending in October of 1979,
just over three yearspickup shops, pick up
(28:43):
shots were filmed in Kenyaduring the editing stage,
making total production time11 years.
Oh oh.
Okay.Yeah. Like from conception.
Yeah. To 1969.
Yep. Nice. Yeah.
The other thingthat kept delaying filming
was that the animals justcouldn't
stop attacking the attacking.
The castand crew of the estimated 140
(29:06):
personcrew, at least 70 were injured.
During a 2015 interview, John
Marshall said he believedthe number was over 100.
So let's get into the injuriesthat made this movie
the most dangerous film evermade.
Oh, dear.
Line by line, by.
Line by line. Scratch. Yeah. No.
(29:26):
You pretty much. No, no.
Marshall suffered these duringthe course of the filming.
He was bitten through the hand
when interactingwith male lines.
Lines? During a fight scene.
Doctors initially thoughthe was going to lose his arm.
And I believe that incidentis actually in the film,
so I like what.They just put it in. Yep.
(29:46):
They left it in time.
Like,
I read a thing where you can seehim, like something happens.
He looks at his hand,quickly, shakes the thing,
and then keeps going like, yeah.
So I was bittenthrough the hand.
Oh, he was bittena total of 11 times
and requiring hospitalizationfrom face and chest bites. Yep.
Also from the injuries.
He had blood poisoning
(30:07):
and developed gangrene,as well as multiple concussions
from being knockedover by the large animals.
Yeah.
Because he had a concussion.
Feels like the safest thing
that could happen to youwith a lion tip.
He wasn't immune from injuries,either.
She was bitten on the headby cherries.
The lion whoseteeth scraped tbe skull.
She had a trip to the
(30:28):
hospital after, Tembo,which was the elephant.
Yeah, so I don't I.
Know he broke her ankle.
He picked her up by the anklewith his trunk, fracturing it.
That's a pretty funny.
Aside from aside from the pain.
That sounds like fun.
Yeah, right. Like.
Yeah. Wait.
It like
(30:48):
I've always wanted in my lifeto feel like I'm
absolutely insignificant tosomething much larger than me.
How to do it in the most fun waypossible.
Elephant picking you up. Gooutside and stare at the cosmos.
Or get picked up by an elephant.Yeah.
Always fancy being flung aroundlike Hong Kong.
Hang out with an elephant.
The elephant also bucked heroff. Off his back.
Oh, really? Oh,that's a long way down.
That is a. Long way down.
(31:09):
Tippy said.
Tembo was trying to keep her
from falling,so I was not at fault.
I mean, it sounds likehe kind of caused the problem.
Tippy also developed a gangreneinfection.
Oh, come on, man.
From that, from that incident.
Also days before,Tembo had backed off his trainer
and, the trainer had fallen intoa tree and broke her shoulder.
All these peoplegetting gangrene so much.
(31:30):
It happens all the time.
But it's like.
70s. It's not. The Lions live.
With 150 wild animals.
It's like complete
lack of blood flowto an injury or in general.
I okay, maybe I'm just likeputting a modern lens on it.
TB was also scratched on the armby a leopard
and bitten on the chestby a cougar.
Come on man.
Melanie Griffith,
a teenagerat the time of filming,
(31:51):
was bitten on the faceby a lioness.
Initial fees werethat she would lose an eye.
However, receiving 50 stitchesand some facial reconstruction,
she recoveredwithout being disfigured.
I mean, I'd arguethat point, but.
Yeah, well.
As bad as it could be, like
if you've seen the photo,I mean, you can tell you
can now that you know you likethat is definitely a.
(32:11):
It wasn't a Melanie. Griffith.
Melanie Griffith.That is definitely a lion bite.
Melanie Griffith GriffithGriffiths Griffith I'm kidding.
Is Griffith. Geez.Oh yeah, I can see that.
Yeah. She's not around.You can see it around here.
I can't tell you about that.
But yeah. Yeah.
Like her eyes are actually,like, slightly offset.
So not make the supplementalcontent on the socials.
(32:32):
Yeah.
We're not gonnawe're not going to judge
somebody's faceafter a lion attack. Howie, you.
Can you can search up anywhere.She's a woman act.
Melanie Griffith.
Lion attack.
Oh, there's a photo of somebody
jumping in a pool with a liongrabbing their leg.
Oh, this is crazy. Yeah.
Oh, likeI said, a lot of these injuries
were caught on filmbecause they were filming.
(32:53):
Yeah.
Watch a lion maul MelanieGriffith and roll.
Paulo,these are the proud creatures.
The young Polly. Paula is going.
To legally a.Lion. Completely related to.
Come on, buddy,get off your jaw.
If you tell.
A lion just how. Tough you are.
Paula.Go on, Paula, getting shot.
But my face.
Come on, buddy, get up here.
(33:13):
Come on.
Paulahas had a very bad haircut.
Thanks to that.
Would not.
Recommend.
Lions,Kings of the African Sahara.
Apollo, a lion that you. But
a lion jumped on John
Marshall Marshall and beganto bite the back of his head.
Oh, it took six minutesto separate the line from him,
and he's wound. Required 56stitches.
(33:36):
Or for.
Jerry Marshall was bitten onthe thigh by a lion while he was
in a cage on set, and he was,
hospitalized
alongside Tippi for a monthdue to the bite.
Lots of arteries.
How many people werein his hospital?
Over 70 of the crew were.
Yeah. No.But at once, I don't know.
I didn't say a berry is. He'sa lion.
(33:58):
Look at. His face.His face in the sky.
I think that camera, didn'tsay what?
Like at the same time.
Just that those two werehospitalized at the same time.
The cinematographerI mentioned earlier,
he was scalped by cherrieswhile filming under a tarp.
He required 220 stitches,but resumed his duties
after recovering.
(34:18):
Now, I didn't I didn't,mention his name, but he did go
on, I think, to direct speed.
It was called The busthat couldn't slow down.
That's the Simpsons bit.
So, there's
actuallyquite a lot of people on here
who went on to have some quite
prominent careers in the filmindustry. Yeah, because.
Everyone you can put up withthat, you can be in a movie.
(34:42):
Toga.
One of the lead lines.
It's literally due.
He couldn't stop himselfto sleep.
Sleep face first into the wall.
Apollo just jumped upon the counter behind.
Us, and Kings of the safari.
So yeah.
So jungle everything. Net.
And look at it.Work it out. That light.
Anyway.
(35:02):
Tiger, one of the lead lions bit
assistant director in the throatand jaw and tried to pull one
pull off. One of his is.
This was due to him accidentallysignaling the lion to attack.
He also received injuriesto his scalp, chest and thought
and had to go and had to undergoa 4.5 hour surgery.
I'm just going to suggest thatmaybe don't work with lions.
(35:24):
Alternatively,clearly they had auditions
to make surethis lion could be the leader,
and I want to knowwhat that callback was like.
I'm sorry that.
After witnessing that attack,20 of the crew left collectively
and did not return. I yeah,
that's no season.
That'sno fun to the movie with money
he made from being the producer
of the Exodus, rumorsbegan to spread
(35:45):
that the movie was plaguedby the curse of the Exorcist.
No. Damn. Oh, no, I don't think.
Come on. No, it's not,it's just.
It's just got 71 lions on.
It's just. It's just got 150wild animals.
I'm certainly not curse.It's just. Really dumb.
I don't.
Know, we've talked abouta lot of curses on this podcast.
Through.
Unfortunately,the animals weren't
the only thing to cause damage.
(36:06):
On February 9th, 1978,after a night of heavy rain,
flooding from nearbypipes and berms
which were put in placeto direct water
away from the Southern PacificRailroad tracks, caused
a three meter flood,destroying the ranch.
Four sound crew membershad to be rescued from the flood
with no leaving hospital.
I'm assuming because no,because he was there
(36:28):
having knee surgery.
I don't know,because he was bitten by a
tigeror a lawn or something that,
he returned from hospitalto help rescue, the animals.
15 of the lionsand tigers escaped from fences
being knocked down.
And local law enforcementhad to put down.
I think three of them.
I didn't, all of them,
but I think three, includingI think Tiger was one of them.
(36:50):
Oh no. The leadlion. Or the lead line.
What are you going to do?The leading man.
He was replaced.Yeah, obviously.
The flooding causedthe surrounding lake
to be filledwith two meters of sediment,
and most of the setediting equipment and film stock
were also destroyed, totaling$3 million worth of damage.
Wow. Production was halted
for 12 monthsto allow the area to recover,
(37:11):
and it took eightmonths to rebuild. The set
as well.
They planted 700 replacementtrees, so all resolved.
After the flood.
So everything was resolved
just for a series of 12bush fires
to break out in Californiain September.
So they floodedand then bush fires.
Oh, wow.
(37:31):
Wildfires is the Americans call.
It's the.Santa. Real Australian.
Yeah, Santa.
Real Australian deadlyanimals flood fire.
It's a little known factthat Lemony Snicket
Series of Unfortunate Events
is actually a dramatic retellingof the country of Australia.
Every week in Australia. Yes,
the film didn't shy away fromhow dangerous it was either.
They embraced it.
(37:53):
The first injuryI mentioned with the handprint
that's in the movie. Yes,we covered that.
Most of the injuries
that occurredwere caught on film, and again,
a lot of them were includedin the film.
Even in the rerelease trailerthat was out
ten years ago,they say in the trailer,
quoting, like,we can look this up.
After livedwith 150 untried, trained
(38:15):
wild animals to create
what became the mostdangerous movie ever made
and then pops up.
No animals were harmedin the making of this film.
Except the ones are dead.
70 membersof the cast and crew were.
Didn'tyou just say that some animals.
Well,that wasn't during making that.
The film.
They weren'tharmed for the purpose
of making the film there.
You know that's a. Prettythey unfortunate.
(38:37):
Crisp, unfortunate technicality.
Unfortunate.Quoting hit fix here.
I don't know who fixesbut someone.
They say it's like WaltDisney went insane and shot
a snuff version of the SwissFamily Robinson.
Wow. That's that is.
Descriptive.
And then when introducingthe actors in the trailer,
(38:58):
much like whatAaron does in their podcast,
like they come upwith their name,
they have the taglineof the injuries
they sustained underneath it.No ice.
So I'm gonna put our injuriesthis time.
Oh no.
They're I'm gonna have to havea whole frame.
It's just it's just fun.
I'm like, Steve-O does, like,a mug shot list.
(39:19):
Just like those imagesthat are, like, where it hurts.
Funny. It's just. All red.
Yeah, for me, it's
just a compilation of all of allthe seasons of MTV's scars.
Can you do chases?
Just delete them.
Just like it's just a pictureof man with no right like it.
Oh, still could do, did I?
(39:41):
You know.
I was like, man, I hope you keepdoesn't have your days.
It'd be like, hell.
He did say that his knee hurt.
Oh he's like,oh no, it's starting.
To sound that defeated.
Yeah I can confirmhe has his dad's fringe.
And I was like, oh man, he'sgot your hair, you guys.
Yeah, he does.
Part of the reasonit was rereleased
was because originallythe movie wasn't released
(40:02):
theatricallyin North America. Wow.
So all this time and money and.
Too hot for. Theaters?
Yeah, but not for Mozambique.
Or was the number one it.
Tippy stated that they wouldn'trelease it because distributors
distributors, sorry, wantedthe lion's share of the profits.
Yeah.
Good. On to, good one tippers.
(40:23):
Which the couple had hoped that
they would use to carefor the film's animals.
It actually made its screendebut
in on October30th, 1981, in Sydney.
And of course, yeah.
Yeah, the Country of Unfortunate
Events is like,yeah, this is normal.
And had a one week distributionin Australia and in the UK. It
(40:45):
also released in Japan, Germanyand Italy at the box office.
It did good. Didn't do great.
A world wide grossexcluding the US of 2 million.
Remember how that budgetblew out?
Yeah, yeah.
The movie cost17 million to make.
Oh, oh. That is a deficit.
Which is also way short of TV'sprediction of the film
(41:08):
making 125 to.
Yeah, 50 million much.
Yeah, that's quiteshort. That's a little bit.
Yeah.
2015 saw
the rerelease 34 yearsafter its initial release.
It was picked up by Drafthousefounder Tim Leak
and initially had a runin six Drafthouse theaters
(41:28):
before expanding to 50 cities.
So yeah, 2015,it was back in the movies.
Which I actually thoughtwas really interesting
since we had that big movie talkbefore the episode.
I'm like, you guys don't knowwhat you're getting into.
Ghetto me
the financial failureput a stop to the plans
of using the profitsto fund the animals retirement.
No. And Tippi grew distant,and they divorced.
(41:51):
In 1982.
Tippi founded the RoarFoundation and established
Shambala Preserve in 1983 tohouse all of the film's animals.
Nice.
She still advocates for animalrights and opposes exploitation,
and even though they had split
nor providedmost of the financial support
for the preserve,but he rarely attended, saw it
(42:12):
not being with the animalshe loved and raised.
He never directedanother film and died in 2010.
Tippi is alive today.
He is 95 years old.
Not recently featured.
Well, recently,probably ten years ago.
Now featured in the televisionshow Cougar Town
where she went on a forced date,effectively with the actor.
(42:33):
The playsBob Kelsey from scrubs. I'm not.
So that
is the story of themost dangerous movie ever made.
And I kind of did a little bitof a thing where I'm like,
what is the most dangerousmovie ever made?
And there was a bunch ofmovie was on there
that we could go intoanother time.
Roar was number one.
And yeah, I can see why.
That had on the listwas the Crow, obviously.
(42:56):
For reasons. Yeah.
The Twilight Zone moviefor other reasons.
We can get into itanother episode, but.
Surely was it was?
Yes. Wizard ofOz was on the list, I think.
Yeah.
It's crazy to me that they
went through all of this for itto basically flop and be like,
you can't even say it now.
It, it did have a Blu rayrelease a couple of years ago,
(43:16):
and it had a, actuallyVHS release, like back then.
Just afterthat first run. They did,
it kind of got a bit of a cultfollowing.
There wasn'ta lot of those tapes made,
so they became actuallyvery expensive, actually.
So you think you can purchase it
through Prime Video,but it's not on any streaming?
(43:37):
Yeah.
It's probably on the horse's.
Yeah, you're probably part ofit don't mean.
We don't advocate piracy.Okay. Sorry.
Cheeky title says noto illegally pirating movies.
Guitar says no to getting VPNand did
BitTorrent programand downloading it illegally.
But the thing that.
I would say absolutelyyes to Nord VPN sponsoring.
(43:59):
This Nord VPN, please.
The thing that amazed me is that
no one thought, yeah, yeah.
No one. Why?
A lot of people got mauled.
The man that famously got upset
when no one died,and another episode
did an episode when no one died.
I don't even get eaten.
That boring. Episode.
Little boring.
If I hate this.And everything about this sucks,
(44:23):
that's what you're like.
And I know no one.I hate. Anyone.
You wish.You literally built it.
All up and was like, yeah,nothing happened.
What episode was that again?
Shackleton.That's from what's happened.
The insurance. Yeah.
What's happened is no one died.
That was good. Whiskey too high.
Pitched voice tone is this.
I was worked up about like the.
Director speed ended uphaving 220 stitches in his head.
(44:45):
Yeah. That's something.
And you made a movieabout a boss?
He was the only,you know, remember that?
He was the only unionizedmember. Yeah.
No, that was abig set up for nothing.
Yeah, I just it just from.I just remember.
We'll get episode. Boy,that was fun, right? It was a.
Yeah.
If you liked,animals living in the house,
maybego give dolphin history. No,
(45:08):
it's very rare for a podcastto say maybe, don't we?
I like to beginmy formal petition for 2026.
So we're not removing itto remove. It.
From Podbean. Nope.
We are not cowards on this show.
It's an interesting story.It's getting a taste.
No, it's just icky.It was interesting.
I can't say. It'snot interesting.
(45:28):
It's gross, not interesting.
It's ick.
But just don't make that one
the one you listen towith your kids.
When you tell people, hey,I listen to this great podcast.
It's popular history,it's funny stories,
it's banter, it's everything.
You should definitely banter.
You should listento the dolphin house first.
No, no, not first, not first.
No, no.
Go listen to 1904 Olympics.
(45:50):
Yeah, I went to get into deepcuts. Light.
I like dolphin. House.
Do 1904 Olympics. Dude.
Doctor pepper.
Game to Dan.
Yeah, Dan.
Sickles.
Personally, I do the baseball.
You three baseball players.That's a good one.
Yeah,I still like hanging garden.
Hanging garden is a good one.
That had a good twist.I don't know, go twist.
I actually think Battleof Surfaces is the business.
(46:14):
Don't bother with that one.
They thought
that was pretty weak storythat they're still fighting for.
That affects your bell curveso much for like
quality of episodeis battle of the
so we've all got an episodethat affects our bell curve.
Mine's quite short
so it's on a nice edgeand all it takes is one flop
and I'm done. Flop and Shaun.What's on.
Your worst episode? Your flop.
Oh, Jones.
(46:35):
Flop. Be
I don't knowI don't know what your flop is.
And we'll have to go backand look at all the, It
Christmas truce.
No, it was all right.
You can't count holiday episodesthat I can't.
Let's goback. Was it. Yeah. We stories.
Let'sput it out to the listeners.
Yeah, yeah,because I'm a nonbeliever.
So that's unfairbecause I obviously think
it was a flopbecause of some skeptic.
Yeah.
(46:55):
What do you think was John'sworst episode?
Hit us up on Facebookand Instagram.
Yeah. If I was going to not ex.
We're done with it.
We're done with. That. It sucks.
It is up on Tumblr.
What about BBS?
What are we going to beas a camp?
A what was your.
No, no.
I think I tried to sign upfor that.
It was very difficult.
(47:16):
Yeah.
Anywaywe going to be at the B. Yes.
To set us up on the Barmy ArmyFacebook page.
This, this flood them withquestions about this podcast.
But what do you think Joe Jones.
Hey we could get a Barmy Armychant at the next Ashes Test.
Like like this thing and cheekytowels. That'd be great.
That'd be great.
We could just record an episodefrom the ashes.
(47:37):
Yeah.
Oh, hey, Mitchell. Starc,your bowling is bad.
Battle of the surfaces.Yeah. There you go.
That's, That's terrible.
Why is this half turf off clay?
That'd be theworst cricket game of all time.
Yeah.
All right. Well, good at boy.
Thank you.
That's right. Let's wrapthis up. I enjoyed that story.
Yeah. Good one.
Let's go watch the trailer.Yeah, yeah.
(47:59):
All right.
Go do that at home as well.
Yeah. Go watch the trial. Yeah.All right. Well.
Good night.Thank you for listening.
We'll see.
Well, we'll see you in a month.
Have a lovely trip, boy.
Thank you.And have a merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas everyone.
Happy holidays. Yeah.
And take it easy.
Take it.
Do not do that again.
(48:20):
Goodbye.
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