Bring her back / A late work night takes a bad turn

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We'll be reviewing Bring her back.
My bad.
Bring her back.
Before we get into that, we arevery happy to be once again
reviewing movies with you.

SPEAKER_03 (01:34):
Disclaimer
As you know, we live in a verynoisy area with bad.
And sleeping goblins.
And we happen to be cooking,washing clothes, dishwasher,
we're doing everything all atonce.
So ignore our background noise.
Okay, now jumping right in.
Okay, so this movie Bring HerBack.
It's an Australian horror movie.

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And it was directed by Danny andMichael Philippo.
Philippu?
I don't know.
Philippiu, Peppy Le Piu, writtenby Danny Philippiou and Bill
Hinsman.
Heinzman.
The film stars Billy Barat.
Sorrow.
Well, no, I want to say allthese things.
No, don't.
I don't know.
I don't know who's that.
So, anyways, this plot followstwo step siblings who find
themselves orphaned and placedin the middle of an occult

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ritual by their new foster mom.
So basically, that's like alittle very mini, mini, mini
summary.
Right now it's available onAmazon Prime and YouTube.
And many other TV, like inmostly everything.
Be sure to watch it if youhaven't watched it.
So the cast.
The main like people, who do youfeel like is like the main
character?
The little girl?

SPEAKER_02 (02:36):
You know, I was thinking about that and I'm kind
of conflicted because there's anequal amount of importance to
each character.
And just looking at the cover ofBring Her Back, it does portray
Ollie slash Connor Bird, thecharacter that is portrayed in
the cover.
And he's not necessarily thefirst person that I would think
of when you get asked thequestion of like who's the main

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character.
But he is at the same time likea very important character
because of the role he plays inthe process of bringing someone
back ritualistically.
So, anyways, I guess what I'mtrying to say is that the
children are the most importantcharacters.
Yeah.
Um, in the hierarchy, maybe itwould be Andy, then Piper, and

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then Ollie.
Yes, it's kind of hard to say.
I mean, definitely Piper andAndy.
Uh siblings.
They're the protagonists of thestory.
They're siblings.
Yeah, the step siblings, yes.
I just feel like we saw a lot ofone-on-one scenes with Andy,
like showing what he was goingthrough.
So that's why I think Andy isthe main character.

SPEAKER_03 (03:36):
Yeah, maybe so.
Maybe so.
So basically, Andy is played byBilly Berat.
I'm not even sure how to saythese names, so I'm sorry.
Billy Barrett.
And then Piper, which is thelittle girl.
She's blind.
Is she blind in real life?
It looks like she is.
I did not look into like I didnot look up the individual
characters or I mean actors, butum, it looks like she is and is

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played by Sora Wong, and she's areally great actress, by the
way.
And um then there's this evilwitch.
I was gonna she doesn't, she'snot a witch, she seems all nice
at the end, like one of thosequirky little weirdo ladies, and
then at the end, she's like,evil Laura.
Why?
Let me pause right there.
Why in so many damn horrormovies is there a Laura or Laura

(04:25):
in the characters?

SPEAKER_02 (04:26):
That's what I'm saying.
We do not us, we do not claimall the Laura's for sure, no.

SPEAKER_03 (04:31):
I know, but it's crazy because there's so many,
so many horror stories.
And it's it's funny.
Like, I always like I'm watchinga movie and oh Laura, and I'm
like, oh my god.
I'm always thinking about Laura.
I'm like, do it like again,again, like another name.
And I searched this up.

SPEAKER_02 (04:46):
Why is it that most horror movies have a character
name, Laura, in it, and nothingappears in the search results,
not even AI.

SPEAKER_03 (04:54):
So we need to ask Wikipedia or AI, like, hello,
pay attention and start likedocumenting this because this is
real.
Like, I watch so many horrormovies, and there's always a
Laura.

SPEAKER_01 (05:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (05:05):
So, anyways, this lady is played by Sally Hawkins.
Like we already mentioned,Oliver or Ollie, uh, Jonah Brand
Phillips.
So Ollie is actually the namethat Laura names him to play it
off because his real name,Connor Bird, later we find out
as a different thing.
Okay, so let's just jump in.
There's obviously othercharacters, but these are the

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important ones.
So let's jump in.

SPEAKER_02 (05:28):
So we see that these children, Andy and Piper, are
unfortunately dealt a bad card.
How do you say that phrase likethere?
Yeah, they've been a they'vebeen dealt a bad hand, right?
That's how you say it.
Because their biological fatherto both encounter some form of
heart attack slash accident thatcauses what I think it to be

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like a like a concussion,something that affected his
head, and then there was signsof throw-up in his mouth.
So it looked like he had areally sad death.
But the point is he died, andthat was really tragic to see
because you automatically getthe hint that Andy, which is the
oldest of the siblings, I mean,will now become responsible.
But the household, you startthinking, like, damn, they

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clearly have no one, likethere's no woman or mom for
either of them.
So it's kind of it kind ofleaves you at that cliffhanger
very early on, like what's gonnahappen next?
Why where do they go?
And Andy's like old, but he'snot even 18 yet.
No, that's the thing.

SPEAKER_03 (06:26):
Like, he's he's the four months away from being 18
or something like that, right?

SPEAKER_02 (06:30):
Yeah, but he's still a child, and yeah, he's it was
traumatic that they both Piperand him had to see their father,
like and they even showed usthat the dad passed away in the
shower, so they saw him naked.

SPEAKER_03 (06:43):
The part that I remember started intriguing me
more was when they were alreadyI mean, it's Australia, so I'm
sure it's basically the samething as like uh like a child um
protective services that type ofthing.
And um, where they're trying tofind them like a foster home,
you know.
So they're in this office, andthe lady that's in charge is
like talking about it.

SPEAKER_02 (07:02):
My name is Wendy.

SPEAKER_03 (07:03):
And she's like really nice.
She's like, oh, you know, likeshe's talking about this lady.
Like, you know, she's a reallynice lady, blah blah blah, this
and that.
The only problem is that shementions that, oh well, we'll
see what we can find for Andy.
And Andy right away is like,wait a minute, we can't be split
up.
Especially because Piper, Imean, besides the fact that
they're like close, he feelslike he's like, he needs to take

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care of her, you know,especially because they lost
both parents.
But more importantly, yes,because she's blind and she
relies on him, even though shelooks to be a very independent
blind child.
But obviously, like they showher moving around in their old
home because he was eventhinking we can't stay in our
home.
And he said, No.
And then he's like, Well, Icould take care of her and this
and that.

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And he's and then the lady said,which tells us that he was gonna
turn 18 soon.
He goes, Well, you couldn'tapply for a guardianship, like
once you turn 18.
But just because you apply forguardianship doesn't mean
they're gonna grant it to you,first of all.

SPEAKER_02 (07:58):
And then they're probably gonna ask him, like, do
you have a job?

SPEAKER_03 (08:00):
Or like, what do you think?
Like, how are you gonnamaintain?
So, I mean, it looked bleak, buthe also didn't want them to be
separated, obviously.

SPEAKER_02 (08:08):
So, Wendy seemingly already has for foster a foster
parent for Piper, and shebasically made it seem like I'll
talk to her and let's see ifshe'll make room for you, Andy.
And they both wanted to staytogether, so luckily they were
able to.
So there was this one detailthat kind of they kind of
brushed over it.
We didn't know the details atthe start.

(08:29):
So that lady Wendy referencesAndy and the new foster parent,
saying that she would have tospeak with her because she's had
an experience in the past thatkind of spooked her from
allowing new kids to come inthat had some form of like
trauma or like violentbackground.
But what she's referring to issomething that's in Andy's file.

(08:50):
I guess it was reported oncethat he maybe put hands on
Piper.
The thing that's unclear is likehow did that get on his file
report?
I did that parents once calledthe cops on him.
Like, we don't know all that.
Yeah, and we don't know how it'slike public knowledge.
Yeah, but she brought that up.

SPEAKER_03 (09:06):
And then Piper was kind of confused, she might get
a little confused now.

SPEAKER_02 (09:09):
And as the audience, you you are confused at the
start of the movie, too.
But we later find out it's it'sliterally that that when they
were siblings younger, like theygot into it.
And he was like eight years old.
I honestly think that part is alittle stupid and ridiculous
because what sibling doesn'treally get down with the other
sibling in the past.
I know.
What Leslie doesn't at one pointslap somebody in the head,

(09:30):
especially Mexican families,like isn't aren't you like isn't
that a given?
Like you're gonna have fossilsin your lifetime.
This foster parent, her name isLaura Laura, however you want to
call it.
I would never want someone tocall me Laura, but that's that
person's name.
So she ends up accepting Andy toenter her house, and she's very
welcoming.
But right away, um, she seems tobe way more interested in Piper

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than Andy.
Like, she didn't even play itoff when they take a selfie and
like to the whole welcoming.
She's really just cateringtowards Piper.
She even blocks Andy, like yeah,when they supposedly take a
selfie, like she's she's noteven worrying that his he's like
in the image or like at a goodangle.
She really just disregards himfrom the start.
Like, it's almost likepessimaggressive on purpose.

(10:14):
Yeah, like who wouldn't noticethat?

SPEAKER_03 (10:16):
Up until this point, we didn't realize, or we find
out as we're there arriving withthem, that there's another child
in Laura's home.
Okay, so this child, first ofall, doesn't look like a normal
child.
He's emotionless, mute, weirdo.
Yeah, and he looks kind of likecreepy, traumatized.
It's like something's wrong.
Like maybe like, so we're tryingto understand like, uh, is

(10:38):
something like mentally wrongwith him, or is he what?
Like, you know, he obviouslystands out.
And he told the other kids, oh,he's harmless, he's really nice,
he's a sweet boy, this and that,whatever, whatever, right?
And then like she kind of likeshoes him into like a room, and
like, oh, you stay there.
We'll we'll see him later.
And then like she like locks himup, no?

SPEAKER_02 (10:58):
Yeah, but the weirdest part is that Piper
can't see, right?
And they're all somehow in thehousehold down to lie to Piper
and make it seem as if he's likethis cute, happy little boy
because she's over here askingAndy, like, what's he doing?
And clearly that's what Andy isto her, like someone to confirm,
you know, what's going on, whatare the details of what I can't

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see.
And he's like, Oh, he's smilingat you, like he's nice.
And re in reality, when you arewatching the movie, you're gonna
know what we're talking about.
He is just like out of it, andhe could clearly trans, like
weird, yeah.
But because Andy does that, thenit looks like the foster parent,
it looks like she likes the ideaof lying to her and giving her
this facade, and that's when shejust starts describing him as

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like his curly haired, red, cuteboy.
Perfect.
So I don't know.
For me, that was already rubbingme the wrong way.
Like, you guys are lying to her,which maybe all these things
could have helped type her downthe line, you know, foresee
what's going on.
Like, she should have known fromthe start there was something
off, whatever.
That's just my opinion.
Yeah, and then yeah, like thatthat's my biggest observation
that like Andy I think messed upbecause he opened that door of

(12:03):
like showing that it's okay tolie and like kind of hide the
truth and show your cook stuff.
So let's see yola corrientelaway.

SPEAKER_03 (12:09):
Yeah, and let's add that they don't they have like a
secret word that to know ifthey're actually like saying the
truth to each other, which isgreat for yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (12:18):
That was weird.

SPEAKER_03 (12:18):
Yeah, it was weird because they didn't use it that
much, and then when they countedand they use it, like it was not
yeah.
So remember, because they losttheir father, they actually are
gonna be attending the dad'sfuneral.
And Laura was more than happy totake them, but she was also like
kind of telling them, yeah, kindof telling them like odd things,

(12:40):
like uh people also have to bethat sad, and she's trying to
uplift them and but in a waythat's very inconsiderate.
Like, I get you, like you know,like it's a celebration, but not
everybody feels that way,they're still mourning.

SPEAKER_02 (12:52):
And then when they get there, first of all, she's
the only one in like bright asspurple.
I know, which I thought wasweird because I'm like, you
could at least have dent it downa tad bit if you didn't own
black, but you should have wornblack, and then secondly, she's
over there like asking or mustbe and telling Andy, like say
the proper goodbye to him, likekiss him.
Yeah, first she made him look athim.

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So I don't know what youremember about being with Piper
in the car.
I don't recall anything, otherthan her saying, like, oh, what
do you guys like to do for fun?
Like trying to change thesubject.
But before we get there, at theactual funeral, Andy wasn't down
to look at his father, and Ithink it was because he's like
in a corpse state.
And then Piper being that she'sunable to, she was asking him to

(13:35):
describe blah blah blah.
You get you get where this isgoing.
Like Andy just easily lies toher just to pacify her, but it's
not truth.
So she used that littlegrapefruit thing on him, and he
he lied and said that no, helooks great, blah blah blah.
But you could say you just likelooking up in the yeah, he was
he would never actually lookedat him.
So that snitch foster parent isover there trying to stir up

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something, and she's like outinghim basically in front of Piper,
saying, You should look at him.
Like it's like this is the lasttime you're gonna see him.
Yeah, it's unhealthy, and likeif you believe in certain
things, like this, their soulwas something like their soul is
still in here, so pay yourrespects.
But then Piper gets affectedbecause she's you know, she's
really and that, and sheprobably is buying into that

(14:18):
whole fake thing of like, oh,we're not saying our proper
respects.
Come on, it's our daddy shoulddo that at the very least.
I don't know what she'sthinking, but the tell me why
the ladies like kiss him, it'scustom for you to kiss him, and
it's like no, like, what if hedoesn't want to kiss him because
he's dead, a dead body, andsecondly, what if he didn't have
a good relationship with him?
Like, that's not for her to bein interjecting that way, but

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just because he did it, she didit, and she kissed him on the
lips, which is so weird, random.
I don't know what customs thatis from.

SPEAKER_03 (14:49):
That's just a made up because she was doing some
worship.

SPEAKER_02 (14:52):
But you'll see, like, in the moment, it looks
like she's almost gettingsomething out of it, like she's
getting a kick out of seeing himthat tormented.
Yeah, like she was very, veryshe was being a very pressureful
person.
Is that even?
Yeah, and it didn't even soundlike she was being pressure, but
she was.
She was even her face, likeshe's just someone that you want
to slap.

SPEAKER_03 (15:11):
Okay, so once they do make it home, she was like,
Let's get hammered, y'all.
Who's weird ass?
Like, whose idea was that?
He said, No, but who cares?

SPEAKER_02 (15:21):
She was asking a question of like, What do you
what do you like to do for fun?
And he's like, get hammered.
And she's like, What?

SPEAKER_03 (15:26):
Okay, okay, let's do that.
Let's do that right now.
And he was like, What?
So she busts out a bottle, andnot only that, like they let
Piper join.
She was kind of making her like,Lo, she could drink too.
Oh, drink this.
And we almost thought, like, isshe trying to get her drunk?
Because she was mixing theirdrinks.

SPEAKER_02 (15:44):
She wanted him to get drunk too.

SPEAKER_03 (15:45):
So that was already like red flags for you as a
watcher.
A watcher, for you as a viewer,because it's like, what the hell
is she trying to do?
Like, why is she doing that?

SPEAKER_02 (15:54):
Now, a main point that we haven't brought up at
all, but it's a very crucialone.
She's a foster parent because Idon't know why, but she's up to
something.
This lady is not right in thehead, and it's good to note that
she lost a child.
Yes.
And we haven't brought that upat all till now.

SPEAKER_03 (16:12):
And we should have kind of brought it up because in
the very beginning, when she wasassigning their bedrooms, she
first, when she wanted to shoeaway Andy, like she said, Oh
yeah, your room's over there.
She kind of like just likepointed at some random place,
some closet or whatever, someweird ass Harry Potter under the
I don't know, some place thatlooked kind of like he's like,
Oh, yeah, it's kind of likebulky because it was like a
bunch of crap, and then he'slike, Oh, no, and then she went

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and to give Piper her room.
It was a room that was alreadydecorated for like a little
girl, it was like supercolorful, and it had like beads,
and it had this like in thedoorway.

SPEAKER_02 (16:42):
Now you look like that little girl had just been
there, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (16:44):
And she's just having like flashbacks, right?
So we realized that this childof hers was also blind, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (16:51):
So that all honestly plays into that obsession that
she has towards Piper because itlooks like it's reminding her a
lot of her daughter, and shewants her to be here, and she's
longing for that replacement,yeah.
Which is kind of creepy.
So at the end, when we'rereaching that point of them
wrapping up that day of thefuneral, they're all drunk.

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Andy and her have like aone-on-one.
Oh, wait, let me interject thatthis whole time, well, where's
Ollie?

SPEAKER_03 (17:17):
Remember?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (17:19):
Ollie.

SPEAKER_03 (17:22):
Yeah, so anyways, this whole time that they're at
the funeral, doesn't she lockhim?
Ollie, yeah, he's like in somehe's just forgotten about.
Yeah, but doesn't he start likebreaking the window, trying to
get out?

SPEAKER_02 (17:33):
He's like possessed looking, like there's something
about him that shows that he isnot trying to get out or like he
can't be alone.

SPEAKER_03 (17:42):
Yeah.
And she's like, Oh, he'll befine, I'll be back.
And then she leaves him, andthen we're like, Dad, like she
doesn't feed him, nothing,remember?

SPEAKER_02 (17:49):
And keep in mind she starts saying that throughout
the movie a lot, like she startscomforting him a lot, saying,
Oh, I know you're hungry, butnot yet.
Those are red flags.
Like, what do you mean?
Not yet, like maybe a damnsandwich.
So that just shows you, like,what does he eat?
Like, I mean, it starts to plantthat seed, like, what is he
waiting for?
What is she waiting for?
What kind of food is he like?

SPEAKER_03 (18:10):
Yeah, because at some point we start seeing,
don't we see him like go outsideand he starts like doing weird
things like like he wants tokill a chicken and cat?
His behavior is passed out.

SPEAKER_02 (18:19):
Scary.
So the biggest mistake that Andycould have done, but again, he's
only a child, and I feel likethat old lady, she was very
manipulative and she knew whatcards to play from the start.
Um, so keep in mind they're bothdrunk, they're supposedly under
the influence.
Yeah, but for your Piper, she'sout, she passed out.
But yeah, that wasn't veryresponsible of her.
Like, supposedly, it's up to herto report if Andy's a

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responsible enough person.
That's her job as a fosterparent to also typically assess
him.
Assess him.
That's the perfect word.
But it's like, look at whatshe's doing.
She's giving these minorsalcohol to the point that
they're blacking out, and thenshe has another little kid
locked up, like, she doesn'twant to talk.
But, anyways, but like the worstthing that Andy did was honestly
open up about the fact that hehit Piper because Piper doesn't

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recall this, and it just kind ofshows how that's haunted Andy
for a while.
But he was coming from a placeof like just trying to be open
and also just trying to give umthat girl Laura something back
because she was opening up abouther loss of her child and
da-da-da-da-da.
So they were just a moment ofthem like pouring into each
other, yeah.
Like, you know what?
Like, we've both dealt with hardthings or whatever, but she uses

(19:24):
that against him because now shewants to frame him to make it
seem as if he's like thisviolent person that's like
losing it, but it's only becausehe disclosed um things, and they
always say that in life likebetter not to say much to people
because you don't know howthey're gonna do it against you.

SPEAKER_03 (19:40):
Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 (19:41):
But she did do a good job of trying to make this
space where he could feel safeand open up.
Like, she did a good jobmanipulating.

SPEAKER_03 (19:49):
She wanted to get information and she got it.
We do see that when he goes andfinally lies down, and we're
like, what the hell is she doingat first?
We see that she goes and pops asquat somewhere and she like
starts.
Peeing into like a tin,whatever, like some measuring
cup things.
I don't know what the hell itwas.
She starts peeing in one and shegoes to his room, and when he's
asleep passed out, she openslike his covers and pours it on

(20:13):
him.
Like in this crotch area, whereobviously it whenever he does
wake up, he's gonna think thathe peed on himself, that he
urinated.
And the thing is that we used toremember because the first day
that he was there, um, was italready like he saw the shower
he didn't want to go in orsomething?
It was before that.
So, like he the reason he wantedto go and he like hurried up and
like woke up and just likewanted to wash his clothes and

(20:34):
made a load of um clothes towash was because when he woke
up, he looked down and he waslike, What the hell?
And you could see that he waswet from his pants or whatever.
So he got up and he took likechanged and he went to go wash.
So this is the second time wesee it, but this time we
actually realize, oh, she musthave done it the first time too,
because in the first time itdoesn't show that she did it.
We just think he's having likeissues and yeah, and he peed

(20:58):
himself at night, he didn't evennotice it, probably because some
PTSD.
But now we realize that thislady is doing this, and we're
kind of confused, like, why thehell would she do that?
But that's not all she does.
The library, what else did shedo?
So at some point, she also goesto Piper's room and socks her in
the face super hard and runsout.
And we're like, what the hell?
And you just hear Piper scream,she was sleeping, and then she

(21:19):
comes out.
You see that she has like a hereye, it's gonna be a black eye,
like she is like super swollenshut.
And she starts yelling at Andy,why did you do this?
Like, how could you do this toher?
I don't even know, like, ifyou're safe to be here and all
this stuff, and he's like, What?
Like, he's like, There's no waybecause even though he did black

(21:40):
out, like he's like, I was notin her room, and she's like,
Yes, you were in her room theother day, and it's creepy, and
I don't know why you were inthere staring at her, like
something like that.

SPEAKER_02 (21:49):
Yeah, and it sucks because this lady is obviously
typing into some black magicstuff, ritualistic things,
because she at the day of thefuneral, she chopped off the
dad's like hair, and she didsome weird ritual where like the
dad's ghost appeared to the son,Andy, but she notes this and
then like he opens up saying,like, he just drops hints here

(22:09):
and there of like what he isgoing through, but she totally
is framing him and setting himup to be like this guy who's
losing it that who's someone whocan't like grieve the death of
their father correctly.
Doesn't she get the hair andfeed it to Ollie?
Well, I didn't I didn't get intothe like how she did the ritual,
but that I mentioned it.
She did the ritual, but yeah,she did it weird.

(22:29):
Like, there's something up withher and Ollie and everybody, and
then to make things worse, well,it confirmed things for us as a
viewer, but it made things worsefor them when she decided to
take Piper shopping this oneday.
I feel like that was just adecoy for her to take Piper
alone and tell her, like, hey, Ithink your brother's going

(22:50):
through this, I think he'sbecoming more violent, he's
going crazy.
Because you know, Andy wouldhave for sure like defended
himself and said, like, no,that's not true.
So she already like is trying tolike paint this picture to Piper
about her own brother.
And Andy over here, like asweet, a sweet guy, like he's
over here staying with Olliebecause basically encargado,
like, here, like he's gonna behome alone with you.

(23:11):
But of course, he's locked up.
So just being a normal person,he probably was like, Oh, let me
see if he's hungry, let me seewhat's up.
So he knocked on his door, he'srealizes he's locked in, he
busts him out, and he's justlike, Hey, you wanna eat?
Like, uh, let's get some fruit.
That ended up being such achaotic thing for them because
Ollie, again, he's like weird,like he there's something wrong

(23:32):
with him.
He looks like he's possessed,and he starts doing things that
Andy did not foresee.
Hell no.
Yeah, like he had a knife withfruit, and just remember us when
you watch this scene becauseit's not even worth like
describing it because you haveto just watch it, like, it's
just horrific.
But he's cutting fruit, heoffers him a fruit on the knife.
That's Andy's mess up rightthere, but whatever.

(23:54):
This little boy instead ofpicking it off or whatever, like
he just starts biting, like hefirst of all, he grabs a knife
by the hand, so he's slicing hishand as he's like pulling it
towards him, but then he startslike eating and biting the
freaking knife, the sharpestpoint of it, and it's going in
his gums between his teeth.
Yeah, he's really messing up hisface, and of course, Andy's
having a heart attack trying tohelp him.

(24:16):
But how do you help him?
You have to take the knife away,and when you do that, you're
cutting his hands and cuttinghis cutting more stuff, exactly.
So he takes him outside in hopesto like get into the ER ASAP.
And we've been seeing thatthere's like a ring of salt
around that house, and we're notwe've been around the block a
few times with movies to knowthat that means that there's

(24:37):
some witch stuff going on.
Yeah, something is being kept inor kept out.
Yes, shout out to Weapons.
If you guys haven't watched thatmovie, it has it hints to that
same ring.
Um, that's another movie thatwe're gonna review later.
But, anyways, Ollie starts likefreaking having exorcism, like
when he's out of the ring.

SPEAKER_03 (24:53):
Yeah, because he's gonna he he tries to like take
them away, and when they crossthat, he's like, you start
screaming, and he never talks.
And at this point, he's likescreaming, right?
Like he's saying help me, andyeah, he says help me at one
point.
Keep in mind that before thishappened, because we skipped
that part, but before ourhorrific thing with the knife
and the fruit, Andy did say,like, oh, you don't want to

(25:15):
talk?
Like, oh, maybe you could write.
Do you want to write?
And he gives him like a piece ofpaper and uh a pencil, but he
doesn't see it till later,right?
Bird before he wrote, he wrotebird.
So we don't know.
Yeah, we're like, What?
But when he we were outside,when we were outside, when he
was outside, that was the firsttime that we heard him make any
noise or say, but that's becausehe was having like a and it
looks like he found normalnormal for a second, right?

(25:38):
Yeah, like his eyes look like hedidn't look all weird, like like
he actually made eye contactwith like Andy, like a normal
person, and then he says, Helpme.
Like he says it all like weak,like help me.
And then, like, even Andy'slike, What?
But coincidence, that isliterally when Laura is rolling
up.
Yeah, and she's having thisheart attack.

SPEAKER_02 (25:56):
Like, what are you doing?
Like, why is he out?
And she's really driving heranger towards the fact of like
you invaded my room, like youbusted him out, and it's like,
ladies, I know, like, just liketo the hospital, like yeah, like
he's bleeding from his mouth,like he's like in his arms and
everything.
Then they're allowing Piper'simagination to run wild wild

(26:18):
because they're not explaining,yeah, and they just she just
knows that he's like hurt orwhatever.
So it sucks because it also it'sall falling into place.
Like they're they're making itseem like Andy is losing it.
When in reality, we know he'sjust the victim.

SPEAKER_03 (26:31):
And Andy, I think because he's not expecting all
that, and also because maybe hisage, he doesn't know how to like
explain.
Like, he doesn't take Piper andbe like, Look, this is what's
happening.
This is happening, like hedoesn't have a chance.

SPEAKER_02 (26:43):
Only because he's trying to censor her too.

SPEAKER_03 (26:46):
He wants her to think that there's no bad in the
world or something, which isyeah, which is crazy because now
he's the only one that's lookingbad to her and it's kind of like
messed up because Laura's planis working.

SPEAKER_02 (26:56):
I can honestly see how having a disabled person in
your life makes you want tocater to them a little bit more
and go the extra length ofmaking their life better.
So it's like, oh, let's notworry them with like the truths
and like the ugly world.
But at the same time, he shouldhave thought about it like this
like, like, if homegirl couldsee, she would have seen this
regardless.
So yeah, let me just tell herstraight up.

(27:18):
Let me just describe it.
Let me just tell her.
Um, so we reach a point whereit's kind of like an ultimatum
for Piper.
Do I go with my brother or do Istay here?
Because he's saying, Let's go.
Because he's had enough of heraccusations and of the
mistreatment, and he alreadyknows that something's up.
But she's kind of like shebelieves Laura a little, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (27:37):
No, yeah, because she hasn't seen, so she can't
see the things that she's done,and she still believes Ollie is
normal.
And all she hears is thatLaura's saying, like, oh, he
Andy hurt him and whatever.
And then when Andy was gettinglike upset, he started like
throwing things around andwhatever.
And one of the times, like, itlooked like he was gonna hit
Laura, but he didn't.

SPEAKER_02 (27:56):
Piper's over there allowed to enter like the
vicinity where Ollie and Lauraare, but she's kind of like, Oh,
like, what's going on?
Is he gonna be okay?
Blah blah blah.
Laura's over there doing likesome rituals, trying to save
whatever she had going on.
So it looks like she wantedOllie to be repossessed as she
was doing the ritual.
And we know this because she'sre-watching like some VHS

(28:17):
videos, like tutorials of verygraphic things.
Because actually, the moviestarts off with that, right?

SPEAKER_03 (28:23):
Yeah, like it looks like she's following something,
like a ritual, like she'sfollowing the instructions, and
it's not it, yeah, and it'sinstructions that they're not
really giving you instructions,she's just trying to recreate
what she's watching.
Like, it's not like they'retelling you, like, they're not
telling you what theinstructions are, like, do this,
do this.
She's basically just payingattention and re-watching this
thing, trying to make it happenbecause she wants the same thing

(28:44):
to happen.

SPEAKER_02 (28:45):
Legit.
And and it's in Russian, really?
Yeah, it's in Russian, and itall comes down to like the fact
again, she wants to befriend herso bad, so she's allowing Piper
to come in, but she knows alsoshe's not a threat because she
can't see what she's watching,even like the home videos that
she watches of her and herdaughter.
Like, it looks like she's reallylonging for her daughter to come
back, and then hence the title,Bring Her Back.

(29:08):
You can only assume, you canonly assume that she's doing
something to get her daughterKathy back or Catherine.
So Piper's all up in there, butOblivious, not knowing, you
know, what's really in front ofher.
And Andy just honestly put twoand two together.
Like, look, is this guy gonna goto the hospital or not?
You know, like he's looking atthe bigger picture, like, hey,

(29:29):
if things were normal, we wouldbe worried about Ollie's
well-being, his safety.
But she's just locked up inthere.
So there comes a point where hesees Ollie like super bloody,
like in the worst state he'sever been.
This whole time, we haven't seenhim as bad as we do now.
And he's ready to take a pictureand be like, you know what?
I'm gonna report this, and I'mgonna show Wendy and the police

(29:51):
that you have this kid superunattended.
So that's when what you saidstarts happening.
Where Laura starts challenginghim, trying to get his phone out
of his.
She's snatching him and hittinghim, like not wanting her him to
have that proof.
So he ends up getting also veryriled up.
Yeah.
But see, Piper's only hearingthis, so she's just like telling

(30:13):
Andy to stop.
And Laura, doesn't she say she'smaking it like, Oh my god, stop,
leave me alone.
And when he wasn't even hittingher, like he wasn't even doing
it.
She was completely theaggressor, and he ends up
sucking out this wall when itshould have been her face, but
he ends up sucking the wall nextto her, and Laura's like, ah,
ah, like if it hurt her orsomething.
And he leaves that that's whenhe honestly walks away from the

(30:33):
situation.

SPEAKER_03 (30:34):
And he's trying to leave with pipe where he's like,
Let's go.
And she doesn't want to becauseshe's scared, like she thinks he
did something, you know?
And it's so sad.

SPEAKER_02 (30:40):
And then um, oh, remember too.
We it's not even worthmentioning because you will
witness it.
But she's a weirdo because sheclearly has no boundaries.
Like his first day there, shetried to look look at his phone,
and like, yeah, she's just aweirdo.

SPEAKER_03 (30:52):
So I'm just gonna insert this little like OMG
moment.
I don't remember in what orderif we saw this, but it was one
of the times that it was towardsthe middle slash end.

SPEAKER_02 (31:03):
Yeah, don't worry about it.
Now's a good time to reveal.

SPEAKER_03 (31:05):
Because um, Laura is with Piper and she's like, Oh,
come here, you know, like thisand that.
She opens this, like, you know,those freezers.

SPEAKER_02 (31:13):
A meat freezer.

SPEAKER_03 (31:15):
Yeah, the ones that are like deep freezer.
The deep freezer, yeah.
The ones that are horizontaldown at the bottom.
Piper's touching, and she'slike, What's in here?
Like, what is this?
Oh, what did she say?
It's just meat.
Oh, yeah, it's just meat that Ikeep in here, but obviously,
like it was cold and there waslike stuff.
And then next thing you know,you look in, the camera pans to
like the inside, and there'sliterally a corpse in there, and

(31:37):
it's the little girl.
And this is like they show us, Ithink it's like right after that
they show us like a littlemontage of her imagining or
remembering her when she was inthe water, swimming, and
whatever.
And like, next thing you know,like she's there because she
drowned in the pool.
Then we find this out later.
So she's imagining her in thepool when she was still alive
and telling her that she'sbeautiful and all this stuff,
and whatever.

(31:57):
And literally, I think she'swearing the same little outfit,
right?
Like, she whatever she drownedin, like, she put it in the
freezer like that.

SPEAKER_02 (32:04):
I didn't catch that detail, but that would that
would make sense because she'scrazy.

SPEAKER_03 (32:07):
So so no one even knows.
Like that raises so manyunanswered questions.
And by that I mean like, well,did I mean people obviously know
she lost a daughter because alady Wendy does.
So does she not have a funeral?
How did she get her body in thefreezer?
She dug her up.
I mean, yeah, well, I mean, wedon't know that for sure.
Like, they they never becauseshe dug her up.

SPEAKER_02 (32:27):
Well, we know, yeah, kind of, because she told Andy
that the way she coped was bystaying at the funeral or at the
cemetery that she couldn'tleave.
Because she felt that when shewould leave, she would be like,
She was abandoning her.
No, she didn't know.
She probably just took her outlater.

(32:47):
Like away.

SPEAKER_03 (32:47):
Well, Hell, that's not an easy feat to do, but
you're still like no one's gonnanotice you digging up a grave.
Well, um, hello.

SPEAKER_02 (32:55):
No one's gonna notice that you kidnapped the
child, um, Ollie.
Um, she's going to limit.

SPEAKER_03 (33:02):
But also, in regards to Ollie, remember that at some
point when Andy, shortly afterthat whole incident, when he
tries to go and get help and hegoes to that same lady, Wendy,
and he's like waiting in theroom.
Remember, there's like missingposters on the things on the
cabinet?
And he jumps up and like, whatthe hell?
Because he sees Ollie's picturetalking about a missing child.

(33:24):
So supposedly this child thatshe was fostering went missing,
but he's not freaking missingbecause she freaking has him in
her damn house all possessed andweird.
And in the picture, he's smiley,looks normal, he has long blonde
hair, and his last name is Bird.

SPEAKER_02 (33:40):
Bird.
So, with this finding, it'senough for Wendy to start
questioning Laura, and at that,she's not really down to do a
big investigation because thatlady used to work as a counselor
at whatever company.
Yeah.
So she really trusts her as acolleague, as a friend, and
she's basically saying, like,you guys are in good hands.

(34:02):
And Andy swears by it, like, no,did you do any investigation on
her?
Like, did you not know where yousent us to?
So she's forced to basicallyreach out.
And I know that is protocol.
Like, if you do make some sortof claim, you have to kind of
take action.
Yeah.
So she was gonna call her, andAndy's like, no, let's just go
together.
So they go in person, and it'slike at that point, they should

(34:24):
have had a damn swap pulling up,you know?
But those type of accusations,that's just me.

SPEAKER_03 (34:29):
Yeah, because we see some policemen at some point and
they don't go.
They were like in the samebuilding almost, right?
Yeah, the police, like nobodythinks to like force the police
to go.

SPEAKER_02 (34:38):
And I think it's just all Wendy's fault because
she probably is downplaying thesituation, hella.

SPEAKER_03 (34:43):
Yeah, because she does really think like there's
nothing wrong.
Some trusted person that you'regonna do.

SPEAKER_02 (34:48):
And then she keeps saying, like, oh, saying, like,
oh, she's been telling me howyou've been acting.
All of those incidents that areclearly fabricated, it doesn't
help his case.
And yeah, I can't be sayingLaura over and over.
That sounds so weird.
I'm gonna just say Laura.
But then it sounds like I'mreferencing myself.
So I know.
This is deeper than Laura.
I just keep saying that lady.
So then we're reaching a pointwhere it's like the most

(35:10):
climatic part, you could say,because Wendy marches over
there, and oh my goodness, thescene prior to that.

SPEAKER_03 (35:18):
Wait, hold on, time out, time out really fast.
But the thing is that itprobably would have worked
immediately, like her seeing,but Andy's trying to reach
Piper, and he's calling her,saying, like, I'm so sorry, all
this happened, and this andthat.
So he's saying that, like, youknow, something nice.
But the thing is like he comesclean with everything.
Yeah, he's the story about thedad and what happened to him and

(35:39):
everything.
And even Wendy's like driving,but she's like looking at him,
like, oh my god, like she's justfeeling kind of sorry for him
and stuff, like seeing his sideof it.
But that lady Laura had tookPiper's phone before that.
So the message that he wasleaving Piper, we should see
that she's listening to it.
Like she's listening to thismessage.
And the fatal mistake here isthat Wendy, like before he hung

(36:02):
up, she said something.
So, like she said, we're gonnastart this all out right now.
Yeah, something like that.
And it recorded.
So when he hung up and Laura waslistening to the message, she
realized that Wendy was with himand that they were on their way.
So right away, she starts, shejumps up and starts doing like a
five-minute like clean, like thelike her house was like upside

(36:25):
down because of all the fightingthey had, and then Ollie like
destroying stuff.

SPEAKER_02 (36:29):
Honestly, Ollie was to blame because he was hungry
or something.
So he started trashing her wholehouse and he ate her daughter's
cork.
Is that what he was eating?
Yeah, amongst other things.

SPEAKER_03 (36:42):
Like he was really Well, remember, he's he was like
eating wood, and he was eatinglike the table, he was eating
like and his teeth were comingout.

SPEAKER_02 (36:50):
And when he saw her and she was like, Oh, I know
you're hungry, not yet.
He attacked her.
He bit her arm, he bit her, likehe was in a very bad place,
hunger-wise.

SPEAKER_03 (37:00):
So he wasn't eating normal things, like he wasn't,
he would like go and get foodand he would just like throw it
on the floor, like he the wholegallon of like milk, and then
like the cereal, like it wouldeverything was thrown around,
like he made a mess.
Obviously, he wasn't hungry forthat kind of food because he
didn't need any of it, he wasthrowing it around.
Who wants milk?
100% will eat cereal and milk.

(37:21):
He's like, Who wants milk?
Okay, so supposedly somehow shelike cleans everything.
So when they arrive, Wendy'slike, Oh, let me go.
Like, you stay in the car, typeof thing.
And he stays in the car atfirst, and then he sees Wendy go
in the house.
But obviously, because she gotthe heads up because she heard
her in the background, and shedid like a super like fast

(37:42):
cleaning of the kitchen andliving room area or whatever.
Like it looked like normal, itdidn't look as bad as how
originally it was.
And she was like, Oh, I was inthe shower.
Like she said some lie, like shewas in the shower and this and
that, and she had alreadywrapped her hands, so she I
think she was she had her handwrapped, so like you couldn't
see where she was bleeding andwhatever.

(38:03):
And Ollie, she she thought shehad locked him in the room, but
remember, like he broke out likethrough the window, and his
hands, like his arms were allbloody again, but he was over
there like in the back sheddoing god knows what.
So she was giving her the tour,like, oh, sorry for my mess,
just because she took her to theroom and like her bed wasn't
done.
But it's like, dude, like youdidn't even know what was going
on right here before.
And seemingly everything checkedout, and she was like, Oh, I'm

(38:27):
sorry, I didn't mean to disturbyou.
But then somehow she sees likethat she's bleeding from her
hand.
Like the lady like doessomething with her hand and
she's like, You're bleeding.
And like, I guess she doesn'tthink of a life fast enough that
Wendy starts like, Wait, wait aminute, like, what's going on?
And by that time, Andy had cameout of the car and he went to
the back because he wanted tosee where they were, so he was
looking in the rooms.

SPEAKER_02 (38:48):
He knew that Ollie and the garage had something
because Ollie would be backthere, like coming out from
there.
He siempre salargava, he wouldalways go to the pool back area,
but now we know why.
And he would like bang on the onthat garage door where the body
was.
So I don't know if he would feedfrom her often or like.
Well, he wanted to go in thebody or something.

(39:08):
Something.
So he knew to go back there.
He wanted to expose Olive, Ithink, first and foremost.
But then he did the biggerdiscovery, like he saw him
eating the corpse.
So Wendy, her fat ass, can'teven make it towards like she
she basically has like a momentof combat with the foster lady
because she starts tripping whenshe realizes that she's at the

(39:31):
brink of getting caught.
Especially because, like, howyou said it wasn't adding up.
Like, are you cut?
Like, what's are you okay?
And she starts holding Wendyhard, like, you know, we're good
friends, right?
Like trying to reassure thateverything's okay, everything's
gonna be okay.

SPEAKER_03 (39:45):
She kind of outs herself.

SPEAKER_02 (39:46):
She outs herself, definitely.
And Wendy's like, Hey, you gottalet me go.

SPEAKER_03 (39:49):
But once But she starts saying stuff like
something about like the kids,like, oh, but she's gonna help
me bring her back.
Yeah, this is that.
Like, she kind of said it andWendy's like, What?
Like, what are you talkingabout?

SPEAKER_02 (39:59):
Like, what the hell?
Help, yeah, and then witheverything that Andy said, like
his account, what she was sayingperfectly matched.
So she really starts trying toflee at that point.
But that lady tries to push herdown the yeah, like I'm telling
you, it was a combat, wholecombat scene.

SPEAKER_03 (40:12):
It was a kill bill, it was a um a therman Lucy Lu.

SPEAKER_02 (40:18):
So sadly, Wendy doesn't make it far.
Or Andy.
Or Wendy.
But Wendy was a funny onebecause she's like trying to
skip slash run slash jog likeher little body shape, and she
was waddling as fast as shecould out of that house.
But she first went and sawOllie.
Like she saw him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She saw him.
So everything was goingaccording to plan, except for

(40:39):
the fact that they didn't bringthe Swatchy.
So it's like, how can theydefend themselves?

SPEAKER_03 (40:43):
And sure enough, they're trying to run to her
little rain at that.
Yeah, to her little van.
And next thing you know, I don'tknow, Laura somehow got in a
freaking car.
And you see her like floor herdamn, like her gas pedal to the
metal type of thing.
And boom, she like that was poorWendy.
She went flying.
But she looked like Yeah, andAndy.

SPEAKER_02 (41:04):
It was just sad.
It was just sad to see Andy'sdeath because he tried to the
very end.
He tried to help Ollie, hissister.
Like he really was just tryingto get them out of a mess that
he didn't put them in.
Like, literally, that was justfake.

SPEAKER_03 (41:18):
He was just trying to help.
Like he was trying to get themout of there, like save them,
but like he couldn't.

SPEAKER_02 (41:23):
Another horror story of like these orphanage fosters.
Which I bet that happens morethan not.
It's like a tale of his time.
But he did not get to liveanother day.
Which me and you, we were bothkind of like, is he dead?
Like, did he survive?
But you know, it made sense thathe died because he got hit
really hard.
He got right over.

(41:43):
And I just know that your bodymust be paralyzed and pain for
some time.
And since it was raining, thereunfortunately was a puddle of
water that created.
So she didn't went the lady wentan extra mile to like dunk him
and drown him.

SPEAKER_03 (41:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (41:55):
And there was no going back.
Like he really couldn't defendhimself at that point because he
was very like impaired and weak.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (42:02):
So she drowned him in a puddle.
That's sad.
That was sad.
That was sad.
Like everything she does, you'relike, what the hell is her
frickin' problem?
Yeah, like your child's dead.
Just accept it.
And obviously, at this point inthe movie, I mean, obviously
that we're at the very end.
Throughout the movie, we realizethat because of that little
ritual that she's doing, thatwhat she did was somehow trap

(42:23):
her daughter's soul.
Soul or something.

SPEAKER_02 (42:26):
But it don't look like that.
It doesn't.

SPEAKER_03 (42:28):
She looks like an evil person.
She probably trapped a demon intheir neck.

SPEAKER_02 (42:31):
That's what I was telling you.
I was like, I would rather havemy family loved one be resting
in peace rather than being in ahuman flesh over here hungry,
over here, like unable toexpress themselves, like just
being kind of zombies in a way.
It's like, I would rather havethem dead.
Like, you know what, rest be atevil.
Yeah.
And that's the thing.

SPEAKER_03 (42:49):
It looked like it looked like she wanted to kill
uh because at the end she didsay to Piper, You're gonna I'm
gonna put her inside you.
Like she said something weirder.
Piper was like, What?

SPEAKER_02 (42:59):
She said, I'm gonna have to drown you.
Like she literally said, I'vebeen afraid to tell you, I don't
want to threaten you.
But then she basically says herplan.
Yeah, too.
But keep in mind this also wasanother very sad scene because
she only told her that becausePiper started getting like
piecing it together, likesomething feels weird.
Finally felt Ollie's head, andit completely challenged the

(43:20):
description that they gave fromthe beginning.
Where's his curly red hair?
Well, I mean, she couldn't seethe color, but where's his like
cute little face?
She felt him and felt like thisis not normal, and he remember
his cranium was already likeshape shifting, yeah.
Like he he was like secretinglike juice and like fluid, like
he was not okay.

(43:40):
So she felt like this being andwas like, What's wrong?
This is not so she knew likesomething is wrong, so she ran.
But in running, she ends upbeing in the same room that her
brother's in, and he's dead.
And she was so she felt sheyeah, she ended up realizing it
was him, so it was really sad.
It was one of the saddest scenesof the movie, just because she
came to the realization that herbrother is dead and it's at the

(44:02):
expense of this foster lady thatshe once confided in.
So it all just kind of kickedin, like, oh damn, like I am in
trouble.
So that's the only reason whyshe came clean, I think.
Because she was like, Well, letme just tell you what's in my
agenda since you already knowall this.

SPEAKER_03 (44:17):
She felt like probably messed up that she
didn't believe her brother, youknow, when he was trying to tell
her.
But then he she realized at thatmoment, like, oh, this lady I
can't believe anything this ladysays when I think the the
dawning moment for her was thatthat about like when she felt
Ollie with like his shaved head,and she kept saying, Oh, he has
curly, you know, red hair orwhatever, you know, because it

(44:37):
wasn't even true.

SPEAKER_02 (44:38):
Yeah, and she went on survival mode, which was
funny to see, kind of, becauseyou're just like, damn, like how
was she gonna stand the chance?
Like, she was like hittingherself, like, yeah, she kept
like trying to fall, yeah.
She was trying to run away, butshe was like crashing.
She was moving fast, like tryingto run.
But it's like, imagine being inthe dark, like, where are you
gonna go?

SPEAKER_03 (44:57):
Because remember in her original house, she was able
to move fast because she knewwhere everything was, and this
home was not her home like thatyet.
So she didn't know where shewas.
Basically, the lady didn't win,like she had her daughter right
there in the pool, like aweirdo.
She tried to drown her andeverything, but it this ritual
didn't work.
Well, it didn't work because shewas supposed to the ritual did
not work at the end, and thelady got caught because the cops

(45:19):
finally came.
Like, I don't know who calledthem where the hell at the end,
like yeah, paquet, but aftereveryone died, like that classic
scary movie.
I know in real life, too.
The thing is that like she theshe had to drown, like she was
supposed to drown the girl, soOllie, like the the soul trapped
in all Ollie, would go intoPiper, you know?
So but that obviously didn'thappen.

(45:43):
Yeah, because that's what itthat's what it showed in the
that video.

SPEAKER_02 (45:46):
Oh, okay.
Well, Ollie threw up somewhereelse.

SPEAKER_03 (45:47):
Yeah, Ollie threw up somewhere else.

SPEAKER_02 (45:49):
And Piper was able to escape, like she was doing
her best to survive, so thingsdidn't go according to planned,
and I think that's whyultimately the ritual didn't
work.
And the lady was just there inher own pool of sorrow with her
real daughter's dead body, likejust hugging her, embracing her.
Like she was going through it,but it's like lady, you did all
this for nothing.
It didn't work either way.

SPEAKER_03 (46:09):
And then the only thing that was like the silver
lining, yes, I know I'm gonnasay was that Ollie was able once
he threw up, and like I guessthe ugly like demon, whatever,
like was inside of him.
He was able to run through theforest, and somehow he went to
an area where they found him.
And he they found him, and he'slike, Who are you?

(46:31):
He's like, My name's OliverBird, and like he actually said
his name, and he was talkinglike a normal person finally.

SPEAKER_01 (46:37):
So he got saved, and so did Piper.

SPEAKER_03 (46:39):
And so did Piper.
So at least Andy's death wasn'tin vain.
He actually did save them.

SPEAKER_02 (46:44):
He did, in a way, in a way.

SPEAKER_03 (46:45):
I mean, he halfway, like the they had to like also
for themselves, but like withouthim, they wouldn't for sure.
Like it would have happened thatshe wouldn't end up killing
everybody, you know?

SPEAKER_02 (46:53):
Yeah, she was just uh dementedly stupid, crazy,
ugly.

SPEAKER_03 (46:57):
Like, what's wrong with you?
She was just like out of hermind to even think that because
again, what you were saying,like okay, well, you want to
bring your daughter's torturesoul back because she's not the
same.
It's like it's like it's likeit's like pest cemetery, like,
oh yeah, you bring that personback, but they're like all weird
and possessed and weird, likethey're not the same person.

(47:19):
I would rather not have that.
Yeah, yeah, like let the personbe.
So that was the story.

SPEAKER_02 (47:25):
It has a play on like ghosts slash demonic, but
it's somehow not that main focalpoint of this movie.
It's more of a delusion of her.
Yeah, like the real like thereal try to see all the human
being that is her.
Hold on, let's pause.
Okay.
Oh, who's hitting my foil?

(47:45):
Stop.
As I was saying before, I wasreally interrupted like chirps.
I think the focal point of thismovie is far from the demonic
ghost aspect of it.
It's more so the deluliness andinsanity of the foster parent.
Like it's the threat is stillanother human being.
It is not the ghosts and theritual.

SPEAKER_03 (48:06):
Yeah, because a lot of horror movies, you know,
usually the scary part is likethe entity, the unknown thing,
like you know.
But this was But this one, shewas the tormentor.

SPEAKER_02 (48:16):
And with that in mind, I would rate it, like,
should you watch it?
Yes, one time.

SPEAKER_03 (48:22):
At least at least.

SPEAKER_02 (48:23):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (48:24):
But I would like it.
It's not like, oh my god, it'sthe best movie, but it's not a B
movie either.

SPEAKER_02 (48:28):
It's kind of like somewhere in between.
This movie was created by thepeople who created Talk to Me.
And Talk to Me is a very funmovie.
Like, I really enjoy that one.
Talk to me was better than thisone, but this one still has an
entertaining.
Well, this one I think has moreof like it's because this one's
kind of like sad, you know.
Like, what's the scare factoryou would give it?

(48:49):
At the end of the day, we arereviewing scary movies, so we
have to tell our audience atwhat level of scary this is.

SPEAKER_03 (48:55):
How many screams?
None, no screams.
No, I'm saying like like howmany bananas or how many stars
you give it?
Like how many screams?
I'm like, there ain't no scream,no jump scares here, but there
is like a level from one tofive.

SPEAKER_02 (49:07):
How many screams do we give it?
We always do one to ten.
Honestly, I would give it thescare factor of like zero to
one.
It's not that scary.
Like you could watch it withlike a child, maybe.

SPEAKER_03 (49:17):
Uh yes, but keep in mind, like for a normal, not
necessarily a horror watcher,they would probably be scared.
Okay, like two?
No.
Entertainment wise.
Yeah, okay.
Think of someone in your familythat never watches horror movies
and would think would they bescared?
Yes.
No, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_02 (49:34):
I argue that.
Like if that's what our opinionsare for, and that's why.

SPEAKER_03 (49:39):
I I would give it a four.
Like for general public, I wouldgive it a four, which is still
pretty low in the scare factor.
It's good.
I would give it like a one totwo now, and that's pushing it.
So a horror fan, you'd probablygive it one to two in the scare
factor.
For general population, four tofive.
Well, I say one to one to two,you say four to five.

SPEAKER_02 (49:57):
What do you think?
Let us know.
Who was that crazy lap outside?
And this leads us into thepremise of this movie and making
it scary was not the ghosts andgoblins and demons.
It was the witch.
Which basically she's a witchbecause she was doing rituals,
right?
However, definitely put it on ifyou have a get together.
It's definitely good.
It's definitely a good watch.

(50:18):
Scary movie night or something,definitely put it on.
Consider it just because of thefact that it is entertaining and
there is a good storyline thatwill keep you engaged
throughout.
So now it's time for our scarystory.

SPEAKER_03 (50:41):
Now it's time for our scary true story segment.
And today we have our guest, heactually has been with us
before.
He is a treasure trove of horrorstories.

SPEAKER_02 (50:52):
For those of you that are tuning in for the first
time, we're gonna introduce ourrecurring guest.
Tell us, what is your name, afun fact about you, and what do
you love about Chica's Goku?

SPEAKER_00 (51:02):
Hello everybody, my name is Jorge Medrano Lopez.
And a fun fact about myself, Ilove records.
And I love 45, yes, to be exact.
I love records, I love music.
I like 45, so I collect them.

SPEAKER_02 (51:14):
He's being modest.
He's a very famous 45 spinner.
Yeah.
Very famous 45 DJ spinner.

SPEAKER_00 (51:20):
Deep soul.

SPEAKER_03 (51:20):
And in some circles, people have heard of him.
But uh pshiles.

SPEAKER_00 (51:24):
I'm one of the probably the only few deep soul
collectors in Los Angeles.
That's it.

SPEAKER_03 (51:29):
Woohoo!

SPEAKER_00 (51:29):
Shout out to Sick Jacket.

SPEAKER_03 (51:30):
AKA Rock and Roll, Ganster.
Instagram.com.

SPEAKER_00 (51:35):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (51:35):
So tell us.
Tell us about that night.
Because it was nighttime, right?

SPEAKER_00 (51:39):
I used to be uh delivery driver.
I was a delivery driver for thiscompany, and this particular
night, I used to come out at noat five in the afternoon.
That was my schedule.
But this particular day ornight, my manager had told me if
I wanted to go to um MorenoValley to look off some
important product of and comeback to the store, which was
gonna be when the store closed,I was gonna hit off.
I took two trips.
Moreno Valley is what likestores away from Lake?

SPEAKER_01 (52:00):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (52:00):
My last trip back was already like around nine at
night, and um came back to thestore.
The store is located um on thefour or five uh free ramp.
And there's nothing around thatflight.
I'll just bullet work.
So um, yes, as soon as I therewas no lights at all, it was the
it was just dark.
You can only see like a coupleof the letters of the store.
So I go in there with the vanand I parked and I started on

(52:21):
doing my free work.
For some reason, I felt somebodywas I thought what I was doing,
I was looking around.
Like I felt somebody was lookingat me.
I felt that present.

SPEAKER_03 (52:29):
So this is in the parking lot of your shops.

SPEAKER_00 (52:32):
Yes, correct.

SPEAKER_03 (52:33):
Under the freeway.
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (52:34):
And in front of the ramps, yes, nothing around.
Nothing just the freeway ramp.
And the night is way differentin the morning.
I mean still going in themorning.
So it looks different.
Like I was like, there wasnobody there.
So as long as I put off the van,I always feel dark and the four
or five.
But they were like, so um, I waswriting down my paperwork and I
felt something looking at me.
Like, so I looked up, I felt Iwas facing that way, so I

(52:54):
thought was like dirt.
And like bound, like the freestuff on the freeway.

SPEAKER_02 (52:57):
Like the little where there's like bushes and
like trash.
Right there, homeless peoplesleeping.

SPEAKER_00 (53:03):
Um yeah, so I was I felt like I feel looking at my
back, it's so dark feet.
But my manager told me, George,make sure you lock the van and
take off the pallets from theback, the wooden pallets.
Boom, not leave them inside,just in case supervisors come
and see them.
Then I don't know that I wasusing the van when I wasn't
supposed to.
So anyway, so.

SPEAKER_03 (53:17):
So you were using the van when you're not supposed
to?

SPEAKER_00 (53:19):
Oh, I did overtime.

SPEAKER_03 (53:20):
Oh, they didn't want to pay me under the table board.

SPEAKER_00 (53:23):
Anyway, so am I already?

SPEAKER_03 (53:25):
Let's not talk about that.
Yeah.
Under the table, but let's notname no names.

SPEAKER_00 (53:28):
Yes, so for some reason, I'm not like that, but
for some reason I did not wantto get out of the band.
I don't know what it was.
Usually that's it.

SPEAKER_03 (53:33):
You just had like a bad feeling?

SPEAKER_00 (53:34):
Something like I met sure my doors were locked.
We're like that.
I was like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_03 (53:39):
Did you have a feeling of dread creeping up
inside you?

SPEAKER_00 (53:42):
It was just weird.
It was just weird.

SPEAKER_02 (53:43):
I feel like since you said that you felt like
someone was looking at you,that's already like a human
sense.
You know, like us as humans, wehave extra senses and we don't
automatically know what theyare.
But I feel like that's one ofthem.
Like you know your body knowsthat you're not alone.
Oh, yeah.
So that's part of why I think hedidn't want to get out.
Like he felt that from thestart.
Because you just said that youfelt someone was looking at you.

SPEAKER_03 (54:03):
Yeah, it's kind of like animals, right?
Like animals, they use all theirsenses because they're out in
the wild, they don't talk, theydon't speak.

SPEAKER_02 (54:09):
Us, we get so desensitized with with our No,
but like this happened to me alot where like I turn around and
I'm like, dude, I knew somebodywas looking at me, like they're
staring in the eye.

SPEAKER_03 (54:17):
I know what you're saying, but that's what I'm
saying.
Like, as unless it's humanbeings and like in this world
that we live in, we we're notout in the wild like we once
were.
But you know, like people, weare used to just like oh, okay,
the obvious, like sight, sound,speech, whatever.
But in reality, like we're stilllike mammals that are that have
senses that we don't usuallyuse, but they're still there,

(54:42):
dormant, not used, whatever.
And at some point, I do alsoagree, like, if you're not
alone, whatever it may be, ourbody will tell us, you know,
kind of like when they show deerin the wilderness and then they
like look up, even though theycan't hear, seeing the thing
like they know something'slooking at them, yeah, and it's
like a person in the camera inDiscovery Channel.
So that was you, and you go withthe deer with his little come
see my eyes in the headlight.

SPEAKER_00 (55:03):
But yeah, the only thing was that I could have been
a it's a bum, or it's somethinglike it's somebody like not a
threat, right?

SPEAKER_03 (55:08):
Well, not a threat.

SPEAKER_00 (55:09):
That would have that would have said, let me get off
and said he said forgotten man.

SPEAKER_03 (55:12):
I'm just kidding.
Yeah, I would have been likeunho- unhoused individual.

SPEAKER_00 (55:16):
If that were if that was the case or anybody human or
something that was normal, Ithink I would have got off a bit
like, you know, fuck it, youknow.
But somehow this was not likethat.

SPEAKER_01 (55:24):
It was something like paranormal or like spooky,
scary.

SPEAKER_00 (55:27):
It was just I can't, it was weird.

SPEAKER_01 (55:29):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (55:29):
And I see stuff.
I always see stuff, but thisthis one was Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (55:33):
I mean, you've been our guest before, but we can
reiterate the fact that you dohave a sense like of of picking
up on ghosts and paranormalactivity.
Like he literally does have alike a sixth sense.
Yes.
We haven't mentioned that, buthe's known for that.

SPEAKER_03 (55:46):
He's known for that.
Like where others may hear orfeel things, he will actually
see things during that time,right?
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (55:53):
So he has a heightened.
So it says a lot that he's extrascared today.

SPEAKER_00 (55:57):
Yes, exactly.
Because these, like, I seeghosts.

SPEAKER_03 (56:00):
These were not ghosts.
Do you ever feel like you'reused to that?
Like, oh, it's okay.
I see them all the time.
Or do you still get scared?

SPEAKER_00 (56:06):
No, it's like I see them all the time, I'm good.

SPEAKER_03 (56:08):
No, you say you're so scared, this scared.
Oh, I'm so scared.
No, that's his trend.

SPEAKER_00 (56:12):
I forgot to.
I'm getting abused here.

SPEAKER_03 (56:15):
Just kidding.

SPEAKER_00 (56:16):
No, I uh I just see them like whatever, but this for
this turn night company, it wasjust weird.
So I got off, but I just nope, Iwent back into the van and I
called the manager.
So that's the Bridget.

SPEAKER_04 (56:25):
So uh you're naming her.
I know she paid you through thetable.

SPEAKER_00 (56:30):
So she was like, so um, I called her, she's like,
Wait, Bridget, is there any wayI can take the van home?
She's like, No, you can't.
Just you know, so she goes, why?
So I kind of told her, she'slike, she's coming, Georgie.
Georgie, you come on.
I mean, you get scared.
I just go, cool, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 (56:42):
So like manna type thing.

SPEAKER_00 (56:43):
Manna, yeah.
So um Stop being a little bitch.
So uh I started doing mypaperwork.
All of a sudden, here's where itstarts.
I look up and I see like uhright in front of me, like a
light.
I was like, what do I think?

SPEAKER_03 (56:58):
But 10 feet.
Time for listeners, like 10 feetor 10 feet up with 10 feet.

SPEAKER_00 (57:02):
Okay, so it's dark now, it's dark, dark, and I saw
like three lights startedappearing, and those lights
became like flames just in theair.
I'm like, what the okay?
I thought again, just the bumpsover the fire, like you know,
burning something or burninglike cigarette.

SPEAKER_03 (57:16):
Transient.

SPEAKER_00 (57:17):
Yes.
So I'm like, huh?

SPEAKER_03 (57:21):
No.
She's transient.
No, that's another word forbums.

SPEAKER_00 (57:25):
Fucking bumps for like So I was looking out, I was
looking, I'm like, what the fuckis that?
I'm like, shit.
And then out of nowhere, I saw,they were tall.
They were real tall, and theywere all in black.
Oh in black.
And they just appeared, and theywere the homeless people?
Nobody.
So there was the homelesspeople.

SPEAKER_02 (57:39):
But like you saw a figure appear?

SPEAKER_00 (57:41):
The figures were just appeared out of nowhere,
like they disappeared, like, ohshit.
Like it ran in front of my eyesout of nowhere, out of midair.

SPEAKER_03 (57:47):
They were near the candles?

SPEAKER_00 (57:48):
At the end, they were holding the candles.
It was seven of them.
Damn.
Five of them were standing up,holding the candles, looking up,
and two of them were on one kneewith the candle like that.
And I'm like, what?
Oh shit.
And that's what I was like, ohhell no.

SPEAKER_02 (58:01):
Um, you did mention that they were tall, like.

SPEAKER_00 (58:03):
They were really tall.
They were tall.
They were not human.
They were tall.
They were really tall.
So not like people.
Not people.
They were not people.
They were tall.

SPEAKER_02 (58:09):
But did they look like giant, like as high as tall
as a tree?
Or like, or they were just likebig, like like otherworldly
beings.

SPEAKER_00 (58:16):
Yeah, they were tall.
Like, probably like two feet.
They were like that.
But they were not moving.
They did not move at all.
So, so I have this good friend,Julio.
Who's up?
He knows about that.
So I called him, hey, Julio,what's up?
Told me, like, where you at?
So I told him about what wasgoing on.
So I was trying to have myphone, so they won't see the
light.
But he told me, George, theyknow you're there.
They're allowing him to seethem, okay?
I'm like, oh.

SPEAKER_03 (58:36):
So So basically you were trying to hide your phone
or to keep it, like record themlike hiding.

SPEAKER_00 (58:40):
Yeah, no, I didn't want him to see the light.
Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 (58:44):
So your friend Julio's like, if they're if you
could see them, it's becausethey know you're there.

SPEAKER_00 (58:48):
Correct.
That makes total sense.
Correct.
And they're letting you seethem.

SPEAKER_03 (58:52):
Like, I know you know that we know that you know.

SPEAKER_00 (58:54):
That sounds like a ritual.
I was like, what?
It was a ritual.
And those then goes, they'redemons.
Yeah, bro.
So you told me what's don't tellme.
But whatever you're doing inlife or whatever you're stop.
I was like, what?
Tell me I'm not.
But like I said, I don't want tohear it.
It's none of my business.
You know what you're doing,stop.
And what were you doing?
Who knows?
Well, that should come outagain.

SPEAKER_03 (59:14):
So he's like, I'm not doing nothing for that to
come out.

SPEAKER_00 (59:17):
So he's not serious, or she goes, because next time,
that's how rituals you're doingfor you.
That next time.
So you can involve you?
You're done.
And I was like, That's scary.

SPEAKER_03 (59:23):
I was like, what?
He told you that while you werethere?

SPEAKER_00 (59:25):
I was right there.

SPEAKER_03 (59:27):
Yeah, so I was like, Like, sorry, Bridget is van
home.

SPEAKER_00 (59:30):
Yeah, so we I go, you know what?
Um, this is a this is a trickpart.
I grew up, I'm gonna recordthem.
He goes, Yeah, record them, seewhat happens.
He goes, you know what?
Say a prayer.
But for some reason I couldn't.
He ended up on me and I turned,but I just couldn't.
I was actually scared to do aprayer.

SPEAKER_01 (59:42):
Out of your wits.

SPEAKER_00 (59:43):
Yeah, I thought they were gonna like like mad or you
were gonna provoke them when Isaid I mean I know people were
not gonna be like, oh ithappened to me.
No.
You know, oh you should go on aprayer because um if God's
there, no.
At that time.

SPEAKER_02 (59:55):
It's easier said than done.
Like you had to be there.

SPEAKER_00 (59:58):
Yeah, they were really easy, you got to feel
their

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:00):
It's pretty cool for comfort.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:01):
Here's the part here's the thing.
So I got my iPhone, I recordedthem.
Like I recorded all the like thescene.
And I saw my iPhone and I sentit to my friend.
So same guy.
Oh I sent it to him, whatever.
There's um something on thebushes all around the, you know,
like weed.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:14):
Like not weeds, but like the ones that yeah, yeah,
yeah, like bushes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:18):
They started looking like gargoyles.
I swear to god, I was like, ohyes, like no people were gonna
be like, oh, this was long orno.
I was good.
Like that's that's what peopledon't understand.
Like you're hallucinating.
Yeah, you're hallucinating.
So um I had called an Uber.
Three times the the Uberdropped, the signal.
It said um Uber canceled becauseit dropped the signal.
I was like, oh shit, like theycouldn't find me.
They could not find me.

(01:00:38):
So they canceled.
So finally one got through.
So I was there for like what?
Like an hour and a half watchingthese guys the whole, but they
were not moving.
They did not move at all.
They were just looking up in thesky and they were looking at
the.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:48):
Like you said, you you were kind of in agony
because you felt like if I moveor if I do anything, like
they're gonna recognize that I'mhere and look at me or do
something.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:56):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:57):
Even though in retrospect, we feel like they
knew, right?
They were there purposely to getsome kind of reaction.
React something.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:04):
So what Uber Cause was um, um I'm here, and I saw
him.
But he had to pick me up, he hadto go inside the parking lot.
I saw him and I did not want tocome out.
I go, Can you come in theparking lot?
He's like, What?
Oh, you get coming, can you comein the parking lot?
It was like around 11, so it'sdark, and he's like, uh, but he
came in.
I got up the van, parked, and Iwent straight to the room.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:22):
And they were still there?

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:23):
They were still there.
So when he was driving off, hegoes, You okay, sir?
And I go, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I go, Look, look, uh, that was apassenger already.
Another one?

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:30):
Oh, you got like over shirt?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:32):
So it was a lady.
They looked at me like, Youokay?
I go, no, look, look.
And when we're leaving, I go,look at that, and they were
like, What, look at what?
I go, look, look.
You don't see nothing?
And they were like, No, man.
And the guy's like, looking atme, like, you know, you had a
long day, just go home andrelax.
You go, you don't see that?
So when I was leaving, dancewhen they turned, they were just
looking at it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:49):
They looked at you?

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:50):
They tried to look at me, but I didn't I didn't
want to see her face.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:53):
So you saw them turn to you.
Yeah, like now they acknowledgeyou.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:57):
Yes.
So the lady got off first, thenit was me.
But when I got off, I thought,yeah, thank you.
He he was just like.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:03):
So I get home, he's he thought, like, oh, this was a
long one.
Yes.
Or he's like tripping.
So I okay.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:08):
He's crazy.
So let me.
Oh, I forgot a big, big when Iwas recording to send it to my
friend.
Here's the trivial part.
Because my homeboy told me, Wellload you, you can record them,
but I don't know if they'regonna let you.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:18):
But he's gonna translate.
Yeah, like give him a you'regonna be able to see it, right?
In the screen.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:22):
Well, not not only was I able to see him, but I
saw, how can I explain to you?
I saw something on the screenthat wasn't there.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:28):
So you saw more things in the screen on the
lens?

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:31):
Nonetheless.
What I saw recorded, and Ilooked, it was like a cemetery.
And it had like crosses and umand like little like sticks and
candles everywhere.
I'm like, what?
On the iPhone?
Yeah.
And I look, and now it's like ifwe take a picture right now, and
you see like fucking lights, yousee, you don't see them on the
screen.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:45):
So as you were moving your phone recording, you
could see something totallydifferent on your screen.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:49):
When I put plates, if I recorded, it was.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:50):
So it stayed on your phone?
Were you able to send it?

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:52):
Yeah, I stayed on my phone, I sent it to my friend.
That's streaming.
I was like, I'm out.
And that's it, I'm out.
That's when I know somethinglike sinister, like something
like evil.
Like, okay, when I got home,talk to my homeboy five.
Text him, I go, Wait, um, didyou get it?
He goes, I didn't get nothing.
I go, what?
I said to you, he goes, I didn'tget it.
When I recorded it, not only didI send it to my friend, but he
said, Well, let me see if theycome out.
Not only they didn't come out,the video, like it was, it
didn't come out.
It was like that there.

(01:03:13):
But what?

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:13):
So you remember recording it then?

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:15):
I remember recording it, so when I saw it, it was
there because when I saw it, Imean that was told.
And I'm like, that's what it'sall like.
I didn't receive nothing,George.
Let me see.
Let's see again.
He goes, nope, I didn't receivenothing.
I'm like, but it's right here.
I'm like, oh, wait.

SPEAKER_04 (01:03:26):
Nothing.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:27):
I was like, it was like if I was in the like on the
twilight zone.
Yeah, like in another, yeah,like even when the the rubber
guy though, he was looking at melike, damn, get the look at my
get out of here.
Like, that was nice, like, uh,you also.
I don't know how he saw me whenI came out the van.
I'm pretty sure he was like,What's wrong with you?
Yeah, like what's wrong withlike that?
He goes, bro, what are youlooking at?
I go, damn, damn, look, look,look.

(01:03:48):
He's like, bro, yeah, bro.
Long day, just go home andrelax.
And I was like, oh, okay, I'mtrip, bro.
So this day, that phone doesn'tturn on no more.
My phone shot off and then notturn and I still have it at
home.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:57):
I was gonna say that with the phone, I remember that
when this was still working, yousaid that you were going into
your camera role and in themessages, yeah no padded, it was
not that it was like no, likethe file wasn't there.
And like, um, you know howthere's recently deleted on
iPhone?
Like he said it was as if henever recorded anything.
Like it was no trace of it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:16):
No trace of it, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:17):
Sounds crazy.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:18):
So um, yeah, my friend called me like what, like
two days did it or not.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:21):
Shout out to the Uber.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:22):
Shout out to Uver.
Mom would call me like latersaying that um he he um he
checked and like before it wasuh the store where I was, it's a
paint store.
Found out that it was acrematory place.
Crematory.
I was like, what?
Yeah, bro.
And that's uh and that rightthere was a cemetery, but they
took it off and built thefreeway there and all that.
But back days, it was acemetery, and that building it

(01:04:44):
was uh crematory.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:47):
Dang.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:47):
So then he told me something, okay, George.
For some reason, they want tolet you know that they're there.
So he told me, just like Iadvise you, like, do not stay
there late no more.
I go, okay.
And he goes, then um, justdon't.
If you stay late or like justdon't look, don't even turn
around because you may see themsomething that you don't want to
see.
And I was like, oh and yeah, Inever stay they've asked me, I'm
like, hell no.
And um, yeah, I never stay thereone, nope, that was it, that was

(01:05:09):
the last day.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:09):
Except for drug, that's it.
You're not saying that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:10):
That's what I'm gonna say now.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:11):
The light streets come on, you're leaving.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:13):
So yeah, and if you guys do that right now, it's
creeping.
Yeah, people used to come up tothe store sometimes.
Like, because I'm really like,hey, what is like what's going
on here?
What this feels weird in here.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:22):
Hopefully, to accompany this particular story,
he actually took a picture ofthe storefront, and that picture
did um capture like a ghost uhchild.
So we have that file.
I still have it, I still haveit.
Available.
Hopefully, we can show it.
Okay, so we'll see.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:37):
So once we do have that website, we'll be
definitely posting it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:41):
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:42):
Yeah, but no, yeah, like that whole that whole area
seems to be haunted, and you'rethe gifted one that is lucky
enough or cursed enough to seeit.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:50):
Gifted in quotes, gifted.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:52):
And I remember, like, hey, how old are you right
now?
Like 49.
So at what it was like a yearago, two years ago?
To see like a grown man thatscared and that wake him up.
It was weird because he hestayed like that for like a a
while, like more than a month.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:07):
Yeah, I remember I forgot about that.
Yeah, I remember.
I didn't.

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:09):
I'll never forget how you were acting.
You were like actually scared,like to go to the front porch,
like to see it again.
I was a good one.
Yeah, like just to see likeanything.
Anything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:17):
He was really spooked.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:19):
Yeah, that was crazy, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:20):
TSD.
That sounds really, reallyscary.
I don't I really don't know whatI would do if I don't know.
I think I would have like said,you know what?
Uh if I'm gonna get fired orthey're gonna call the cops on
me that I sold the van, uh so beit.
Because I think I would haveleft.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:31):
Yeah, no, but I didn't expect that to happen.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:33):
I thought it was No, of course not.
But I'm saying, like, once yousaw something, like, I don't
know if I would have been ableto hang this day there.

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:39):
Because you were there for a long time and I'm
sure every second felt eternal.
I think I would have cry andstart praying.
I know you said you couldn't.

SPEAKER_04 (01:06:45):
Yeah, I couldn't.

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:46):
But I would have I think I would have thought,
like, let me try, because youwould think that God can help
you or like repel it, you know.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:54):
At least, like, don't let me see it.
Right?

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:57):
I mean, of course, God will, yeah, we wouldn't even
got of course, but why couldn'tcouldn't I?
Does that mean that evil wasstronger than I did?
I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:05):
It just depends.
I mean, maybe it has somestrength, but you would have to
like really overcome it.
Like, you would have to likefocus and do it.
But if you felt scared to do it,then it was just because you
were scared.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:15):
Okay, that's what I always think with me.
Like, why was I scared to break?

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:19):
That like oh because you probably knew that that was
not just like any little ghost.
Like, you know, sometimes youhave seen a ghost or you thought
you saw something on a stream,you're like, Oh, I just saw
something and whatever, and it'sscary.
But maybe if these beings wereactually worse, like a higher um
comes, like some notches up ofbeing like scary or evil, then

(01:07:39):
this like my concluding thoughtis that you might have been able
to see like another dimension orlike something that was that you
were seeing like kind of likefrom Stranger Things.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:51):
Like in Stranger Things, there's like the under
the underworld version of theworld, if that makes sense.
So I feel like you were able tosee like the spiritual, um the
spiritual realm, the spiritualrealm that most humans can't
sense, or like that's correct.
Like what stayed there, like theenergy that stayed there.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:08):
It's the whole that made me realize that that what
you said right now.
That's that like we're only aspeck, this world, like we're
nothing.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:13):
In this universe, especially because you saw being
so tall, like that big.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:17):
So empower, like like they were if they really
wanted to, yeah, and then andthen people will commit what if
they really wanted to, though,like man, and then people below
suicide or over.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:25):
I always think that.
I think that a lot, and I thinkI've told you this too.
Yeah, and I do have that littletheory that there's a lot of
people that commit, and I'msaying, you know, air quotes
here, that commit suicide that Ifeel like a lot of them weren't,
because sometimes it's beenreported that they were like
scared, that they used to seespirits and whatever.
Obviously, people didn't takethem seriously, they didn't
believe them, and it was ruledout they were schizophrenic or

(01:08:47):
whatever because they took testsand they're like okay.
No, they're just tripping.
A lot of those sound like itwould be like possibly some kind
of otherworldly thing that wasaffected, and it just since
there's no explanation, and itlooks something like they did
something to themselves.
People will rule it like asuicide.
But I think sometimes there'speople that do not commit
suicide.

SPEAKER_04 (01:09:04):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:04):
My conclusion is that this is one of those
stories or slash hauntings thatyou don't want to happen again.
We joke around, like, oh, let'sshare your story, like hopefully
something happens.
We say it to some people, likesome of our kids, like to come
back and talk to us.
But this is definitely one ofthose stories that we hope never
happens to George ever again oranybody because it obviously

(01:09:25):
left an eternal impression.
And I don't think our smallhuman minds and bodies are
equipped to take on aninteraction like that.
And I just hope that it doesn'thappen to you again.
And if anything, it shows thatyou are strong because you were
able to get through that nightand be here today.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:42):
I agree.
There's people that see ghoulsor they get haunted and this and
that, but like to see somethingand see beings that are there
and they're like, they don'tdisappear, they're looking, and
then like when you leave, you'rethe one to leave, and they're
they turn around and look atyou, you know?
Because usually there's no wayaround, like, you might see
something and it just like fadesaway or it goes away, like, oh,
I blinked and it was gone, orwhatever, you know.
People might see like glimpsesof things, but for them to be

(01:10:04):
like there and then to top itall off, like you're trying to
record something and you seeextra stuff, it's like dang how
what am I tapping into?

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:11):
And they're making it happen.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:14):
They're allowing you to be that's really, really
scary.

unknown (01:10:18):
Woo!

SPEAKER_02 (01:10:19):
Well, thank you for making the time and being our
guest once again to our podcast.
And we hope to have you againbecause I know you think you're
full of stories, a lot ofstories throughout your
lifetime.
And so be careful.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:31):
You never know where there was once a cemetery, you
never know what little beingsand weird things are lurking or
what exists on the other side.
We want to thank everyone allaround the world, our wonderful
listeners that love her just asmuch as we do, because without
you, it would just be me andLaura talking to each other, but
still watching scary movies, sothat's not bad.
But we also want to add that wewant to hear your scary story.

(01:10:54):
If you've encountered, if you'vebeen haunted, if you have
something spooky that you wouldlove to share with us, we would
love to hear it.
We would love to put it on ourpodcast.
Please call the Chica Skukuihotline, which is 310-910-1439.
Once again, Chica Skucui 3109101439.
You can also visit us at ChikaSkuckui Podcast.com to listen to

(01:11:17):
our latest stories there andalso leave a message.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:21):
I second that.
Yeah, thank you.
Stay tuned for the next episode.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:25):
Bye.
I don't know.
I didn't name them.

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