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May 2, 2025 29 mins

In Part 3, Waverly Deutsch steps into her latest role: founder of Wyseheart, a coaching firm designed to help the most overlooked founders build ventures that last. Focused on meaningful business, not unicorn exits, she brings her full career of coaching, teaching, and hard-won insight to early-stage leaders across age, gender, race, and identity. 

For Gen Xers who aren’t ready to “retire,” this is a playbook for doing your best work—on your terms, with your values, and no need for external approval.

>>What Retirement Really Means to Her

“Retirement means you no longer have to work to cover basic necessities… but you work because you want to.”

Waverly explains why Wiseheart was never about building a high-growth company, but creating space for meaningful work in the next chapter of life.

>>Who Wiseheart Is Really For

“I might have a session with you and turn you down as a client.”

She describes her ideal clients: early-stage founders with strong ideas and potential—but she’s selective, because she coaches from belief, not obligation.

>>Opening Access Where Systems Don’t

“I want to make myself available to people who don’t always have access to someone like me.”

Waverly shares how Wiseheart is designed to serve women, BIPOC, LGBTQ+, rural, and underestimated founders who often face systemic barriers.

>>LGBTQ+ Advocacy Through Data and Action

“You can ask: do you choose to publicly identify as an LGBTQ+ founder?”

She calls out the data gap and cultural risks still facing LGBTQ+ entrepreneurs—and how her work with StartOut aims to help change that.

>>Advising Older Entrepreneurs With Realism

“You may have to go back to the work that got you there.”

She offers grounded advice to Gen X and Baby Boomer entrepreneurs who face ageism and cost-cutting—and encourages them to translate wisdom into flexible, consulting-based careers.

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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Waverly Deutsch

 

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