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May 27, 2025 27 mins

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In this episode, Kate and Carrie chat with Vernon Mason Jr., a childcare veteran with over 32 years of experience. They dive into the staffing challenges that hit childcare programs during the COVID-19 pandemic. Vernon shares his journey from running a family childcare program to becoming a keynote speaker and author. 

The trio discusses the importance of leadership, professional development, and engaging teachers to improve childcare quality. Vernon offers practical tips on observing classrooms and fostering a positive environment for both teachers and children. It's a must-listen for anyone in the childcare field! 

Find Vernon's book at our Director Bookshelf - https://pin.it/7vefuQw3K

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