#56 - Peptides 101 with Jay Campbell: The Future Of Human Optimization - Choose Hard with Cody McBroom

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Welcome to the Choose Hard podcast, the one and only
fitness and nutrition podcast that goes way beyond just
training in nutrition and helps you transform your body and your
mind. I'm your host, Cody Mcbroom, and
obviously my job with this podcast is to help you choose
hard so that you can grow as an individual.
You can challenge your mind, challenge your body and
transform. But it is also my job to bring
leading experts in different topics and industries to help

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guide you and educate you so that you can stop just listening
and following to the informationyou read and see online
anywhere, and you can actually investigate, educate and
experience yourself. And when you do this, you are
empowered to actually take control of your life and make
decisions that are going to helpyou grow and be more successful.
And so today I dove into one of the topics that has been

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probably one of the most commonly asked and requested
topics for me to do a podcast onand that is peptides.
And So what did I do? I went and found the leading
expert in the world on peptides.This guy has read some of the
top and most well known books inthe entire world when it comes
to both hormones and peptides. He also owns a company called
Bio Longevity Labs that actuallyproduces and cells peptides for
you to improve your healing properties, to improve your

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optimization and longevity and improve your performance.
So we're going to cover all three of those categories.
We're going to show you how peptides can help you heal your
body, whether we're talking about joints, ligaments,
injuries, tears, or even gut health.
We're going to dive into optimization and show you how
they can help you improve your health and live a longer,
healthier life. And we're going to show you how
they can build more muscle, losemore fat, and improve your
performance in and out of the gym.

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This podcast dives so deep. I want you to listen closely.
You might have to go back a little, but you might even have
to slow the speed down because we went off.
I couldn't believe how much information we packed into this
one hour podcast. So listen in and as the podcast
unfold, you're going to see us get pretty hyped up and excited
about this topic about 1/4 of the way in and then it just
starts unraveling. Really listen in, take notes,

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study this material. I think it's going to be so
helpful for you. This is one of the the topics in
the industry that is growing andit's growing for a reason
because this can change people'slives for the long haul.
Now I want to also mention that because Jay owns Bio Longevity
Labs and you can actually get peptides that are produced in
America from his company, we're going to leave a show note,
discount code in the description.

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So just check the description. You can click that link.
You can put in the promo code tosave some money on a peptide
order if you feel like you need peptides and if not, check out
his content. Check out this podcast, ask me
questions. You can e-mail me find out if
peptides are right for you and then go that route.
But either way, I want to leave a note in here in this intro to
let you know that there is a discount code for you when
ordering peptides yourself. Now, without any further ado,

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let's get into this jam packed informative episode on peptides
sides with the one and only Jay Campbell.
The greatest things in life all start with.
A challenge you. Must accept that everything is
hard before it gets easy. Every, every, every, everything
you want in life begins with a hard path.
All right, Jay, I'm excited about this, man.

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I have had countless people, I'mnot exaggerating.
Countless people request contentdone on peptides.
More content on peptides. People want to know more about
it. It is a very hot topic right
now, a lot of conversation around it.
So selfishly I'm excited to chatwith you.
I have dabbled little bit. I'm way more familiar with HRT,

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TRT, stuff like that. But I think peptides is
something that is growing so quickly and there's just so much
information out there that can be unpacked.
So I'm excited to talk to an expert like yourself on this
topic. But before we get into that
rabbit hole and start diving through, fill the audience in
with who is Jay Campbell in a nutshell and and what got you
off on this peptide journey? Like what started your process

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and journey and interest in peptides?
Sure. So First off, my name is Jay
Campbell. I'm 54 years old.
I was the guy that wrote the number one selling book of all
time on hormone optimization. So if you want to go down that
path, I can talk about that better than 99.99999% of people
on the planet. So if you want to go down that
path, we can. And then I wrote the second best

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selling book in the history of the world on testosterone
optimization. So I mean, honestly, my Internet
claim to fame is on hormones. But at the same time that I was
learning about hormones 26 yearsago, I was also learning about
peptides. When I tell people I've been
using peptides since 2004, they kind of say that's bull.
There's no way, bro. What do you talk about?
And I'm like, Nah, bro. I mean, I've been on therapeutic
testosterone since 1998. So, you know, I started using

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peptides in 2004. Really at the same time that I
was learning about using hormones, I was also learning
about peptides because at that time in the world there was no
books. The Internet was in its infancy.
The signal to noise ratio on theInternet was insane.
There was no noise. It was only signal.
Nowadays mostly noise. In fact, 95% of people that talk

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about peptides, no, no, not don't have a clue about anything
about peptides. They literally listen to people
like me or read my book or talk about listen to me and
regurgitate me. And it's not just me.
There's other people that are smart about peptides, but it's
insane. Like the whole peptide space is
right now is is laughing stock because there's so many idiots
talking about peptides. There's people out there selling
plant based peptides. I mean, it's so insane that

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like, you know, me and my inner circle, we laugh about it every
day because we're like, how could it have gotten to this
when just three years ago the average person on the street
didn't even know what a peptide was?
You know what I mean? Like I've been in this space,
like I said, since using them since 2004, in the space like
the research chemical space since like 2012.
And truthfully, Cody, I never wanted to get into the space

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like I have now because it was aGray area.
I mean, it was never illegal. It's not illegal.
I'd like to make that as a clarification, but it's not FDA
approved, it's not clinical, so to speak.
So you know, there's like, it's a, it's a weird market, put it
that way. The research space, I mean,
obviously most people realize that if you purchase research
based peptides to research on yourself or your hamster or your

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lab rat or whatever, it's legal,but it's not FDA approved.
You know, doctors are not buyingtheir peptides from research
chemical companies. So the whole white market is
very, very Gray. And so I always just kind of
stayed out of it because I was like, you know, I don't really
want to be involved in somethinglike that.
But then obviously, you know, RFK came into the marketplace,

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started to talk about peptides. People needed to heal from the
vaccine, you know, started to talk about peptides.
And so really in the last two years, we've had this like
renaissance in the mainstream where now everyone's talking
about peptides. And that's why I was telling you
that like the average person that talks about peptides and
tries to coach people on peptides has been using them for
six months, you know what I mean?

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So it's like it's become like a joke.
And that's, you know, you know, unfortunately that's the problem
for most people because they think the peptides are magic
bullets. And we can talk about all that
in this podcast and go down the rabbit hole with you and stuff,
but it's sad because there's really, unfortunately, there's
not enough. The signal is way less than the
noise when it comes to talking about peptides.

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So just to provide context for anybody who maybe doesn't fully
understand what a, you know, what peptides are, can can you
give me the definition like the,let's try like the science base,
like the, you know. Yeah, I mean basically of.
The peptide and then also like what you use them for.
What kind of people actually need these?
Sure. So I mean, peptides are

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basically signaling molecules. They're fractionated proteins.
The difference between an injectable peptide and an oral
peptide is the length of the of the chain.
So short chain protein moleculesor amino acid profiles are oral
based peptides and injectable base which are the most highest
impact delivery system and most that people know about are

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longer chains. And so they're found organically
in the human body. Obviously they are synthesized
by a chemist in a laboratory to be used for, you know, many but
many different purposes. There's probably about 53
peptides right now, you know, incirculation that people are
familiar with, you know, the scientific industry, the medical
industry, clinical industry, theresearch industry.

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But there's thousands of peptides that could be used that
we just haven't brought them into the marketplace, you know,
from a synthesization standpoint.
So very, very interesting thing though, because when you look at
petroleum distillate medications, which is what comes
from big Pharma, when they breakdown in the body and the, and at
the tissue level, they create side effects.
Because again, petroleum distillate, which is, you know,

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an oil residue inside the body or inside the cells as it breaks
down causes other chain reactions and, and technically
side effects. Whereas with peptides.
And then if you want to go deeper, bio regulators which
come from Russia, which are a form of peptides, when they're
in the human body, they do not 'cause side effects because when
they break down, they just breakdown into inert substances and
those substances are just used by the body or excreted by the

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body. So you have a lot greater
impact, I would say from using peptides or by regulators in
that a lot of lot of them are tissue specific.
So they work or target like 1 biological system or one organ
system. And they don't when they break
down, leave any kind of residue or you know, anything behind
that would cause other issues. If you look at, you know, big

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Pharma today, like majority of medications that are sold in the
marketplace are actually to cover up the side effects or the
problems systemically that are caused by the other medications
that are people taking, right? So you've got like 60 to 70 year
old people have been on medications for 20 years and a
lot of the medications they takeare to cover the side effects of
the other medications. So it's insane, you know, how
big pharma works that thing. But you would never have that

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issue with peptides. So first question on all this,
is there is there a difference inside of regarding benefits to
injectable versus oral peptides?When I think peptides, I've just
always thought of injectable. Do injectable typically work
better or is it more peptide specific?
So it's a good question. The highest impact delivery

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system for any peptide is alwaysinjectable.
And the reason that is, is because it crosses the blood
brain barrier fastest and also gets into portal circulation
fastest. In fact, whenever you inject any
kind of substance or a pharmaceutical drug, peptide by
a regulator, whatever, insulin, because it gets into portal
circulation fastest, it's alwaysgoing to be most effective and
that's why it's the highest impact.

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But there are peptides that can be taken intranasally in a mist,
inhaled transdermally, you know,in a cream or in a serum.
And then obviously you can also take some that are oral, oral
peptides by and large, and this technology is actually improving
in the marketplace. So this will eventually change.
But oral peptides by and large are only effective in the gut.

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So you know, because of first pass, you know, most medications
they have to go through the small intestine, large intestine
and the liver peptides again being aqueous.
And once they get in, they're going to be broken down after
they get into the stomach prettymuch by the small intestine or
large intestine. So they're not, they're going to
eventually not be as effective once they get through there.

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So that's why you're going to say like most oral peptides work
in the gut or the microbiome much more efficiently than they
would, for example, like in yourshoulder, right?
So let's say for example, somebody got injured in their
shoulder, they had a, you know, spraying a tear, a ligament tear
or something like that, and theywanted to inject BPC or TB500,
like right up in the top shoulder cap.
They would get much better effect than they would if they

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were taking an oral version of BPC.
But the oral. Version of BPCS do exist, like
we sell them, but they're mostlytargeting issues people have in
the gut or in the microbiome, like SIBO, you know,
inflammation basically, you know, any kind of other like the
pathogenic or virolytic virogenic response in the
stomach, you can use certain peptides to attack that.

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Can you explain in as simple as terms as possible?
Really like what, how a peptide is made.
Obviously it's made by a chemistin the lab.
But you know, I think when we think hormones it's, it's a
little bit easier 'cause it's a,it's a synthetic hormone.
We know what testosterone is. We know that it's a
synthetically made version of testosterone that you inject
when you were insufficient with natural, by the way.
Do you know how they make testosterone?

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I do not. It's a trivial question.
It's from yams. That's how they make therapeutic
testosterone. Yeah.
So all the all the oil based injectable testosterones, which
obviously there's multiple formats propionate stipulate and
they you know, then there's multiple esters.
But yeah, they use yams to make,to make synthetic or
bioidentical testosterone. But it's a good question.

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I mean, again, it's essentially a sequence of amino acids.
That's how they're made. So again, like something like
BPC 157 is probably 15 to 20 chain amino acids length versus
its oral form version, which is like 5-4 or five, right?
But again, same molecule just made differently based on like
how long the half life is and how long it'll stay bio active

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in a human body after it's either injected or consumed.
And so are these amino acids currently present in the body?
Most of them, yes, most of them are in fact like BPC 157.
Let's just talk about that because most people know what
BPC 157 is like. The most well known peptide in
the world stands for body protective compound.
You make that in your human. It's made that like basically in

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gastric. Juice.
So it's just, it's just in gastric juice.
So you know, obviously our salivary enzymes, our digestive
enzymes and they just can sequence in that from a human
cell and then obviously make that into a injectable format
for for injection or for research.
So are they taking cells in things that the body already

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makes in creating them in largerquantities that we don't produce
that large of a quantity in, so that we.
Yeah, that's how peptides are made exactly.
And what can somebody, and I want to ask this specifically
about BPC 157, just because sometimes it almost seems like
a, and maybe it is a wonder drug, right?
It's like this, this amazing magical healing drug essentially

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like what is it actually doing? What is that?
Because you said for the gut, but also I have people using it
for joints or tendons, ligaments, like what is this
actually doing for us? So.
BBC 157 again body protective compound 157 is actually
increasing what is known as angiogenesis and angiogenesis is
the increase in red blood cells and.
Lymph and basically all the softtissue, you know, fluid, IGF,

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all the stuff that comes when you're healing.
So essentially if you get a cut or a wound or a ligament air or
a sprain or a strain, the body has natural systems which I
don't want to go down that. Rabbit hole because it's too
technical for most people, but it has natural healing systems
and basically injecting BPC intoa local area where the injury
is. Is accelerating the healing,

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right? So like you were saying, it's
like a wonder drug. I mean we call it The Wolverine
healing protocol. If you use BPC 157 combined with
TB500, which is thymus and beta 500, you get massive
inflammation suppression or accelerated inflammation
suppression and increased healing from the increased
angiogenesis that BPC provides. So most people can heal

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somewhere between 7 to 10 times faster using a combination of
BPC 157 and TV 500. Now there's other peptides that
you can add into that stack thateven make it faster, like copper
peptide GHKCU, which is, you know, basically a bluish
purplish tinted. Peptide, when it's injected, you
can also use a transdermally, you can also use a serum in your
scalp to regrow hair. Very, very powerful angiogenic

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peptide. You can throw that into that
mix. And then the newest one on the
market that very few people knowabout, like less than maybe 1%
of the world is a peptide out ofRussia called Cardilacs.
And Cardilacs is repairing just like it sounds cartilage better
than anything else. So like one of the newest blends
that my company is manufacturingand it's not even in the

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marketplace yet, it will be probably hopefully for my
Memorial Day is TBBPCGHKCU and Cardilacs together.
And that combination of those 4 peptides and, and technically
Cardilacs is a bio regulator, but just not to get too
technical, bioregulars are a form of peptides.
They're just smaller chain. But all four of those together

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will accelerate healing at least10X.
And my guess is it'll be somewhere between 12 to 15X.
Now, the one thing it won't do, and again, this depends on the
healing capability of the individual and their genetics
and you know, their epigenetic factors and all that kind of
stuff. But it most likely will not like
stimulate bone growth. So it's not going to, it's not

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going to increase or accelerate the healing of bone.
But for soft tissue it will be, it'll be 11:50 to 15 acts.
It'll be insane. Like right now, the people that
are using cartilacs that you know that because it's very new
that people are using this. But the report so far is like,
it's incredible. Like it literally does help to
regrow and regenerate the nerve fiber bundles around cartilage.

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So like older people are going to love that product because of,
you know, wear and tear is getting older.
When you're in your 40s, fiftiesand 60s and you're training, you
get a lot of wear and tear. I mean, I'm 54, so I know
cartilacs is going to be that like Ultimate bioregular
injectable bioregulator to like get rid of wear and tear or or
eliminate or alleviate a lot of wear and tear.
Stuff. Would this be applicable to say

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somebody tears a their meniscus,A labrum, like one of these,
kind of like a pad, like, you know, cartilage in between the
two joints instead of having surgery?
I mean, I've had two meniscus surgeries, for example, and like
they didn't have this bad. The last surgery I had was in
2018, I think it was. So it's been a while, but like
I'm thinking back then, instead of having surgery, is this

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something that you can actually inject into the area and
potentially depending on how bigthe tear is?
So dude, it's an amazing question.
So the answer is yes, potentially, for sure.
In fact, like I just was on a podcast talking about this.
If you're an orthopedic surgeon,you now have a dilemma because
the system is set up to pay you a lot of money to perform an ACL

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reconstruction or a delt reconstruction or a meniscus or
PCL or you know, on and on it goes.
All these major joints and they tear, Achilles tendon rupture.
But if you're aware about peptides and bioregulators.
And of course, we'd have to add.PRP and stem cells and all these
other things that are now out there, even what is it,

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lactopheresis, I mean, there's all these new things that are
that are being done like offshore, you know, because
they're not technically legal inthe United States according to
the FDA. But all of those things are so
profound from a healing standpoint.
Again, soft tissue, not bone. Soft tissue, tendon, ligament.
That it is a question and I would tell you that if you were
45 or older. Because I understand, you know,

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the strength, the tensile strength of a muscle or, or a
tendon or a ligament at that ageversus like if you were 18, in
your 20s, early 20s, you would definitely not want to have the
replacement surgery anymore because they're not going to be
able to strengthen the tensile strength of that joint or that
ligament at your age versus whatthey could do rebuilding it, re

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grafting it, you know, reattaching it if you were in
your late teens and early 20s. So it is becoming a moral
dilemma. Because if you're an orthopedic
surgeon, right, and you order anACL reconstruction for a 52 year
old woman who's, you know, tearsor ACL skiing downhill, you make
40 or 50K off that the insuranceagency makes. 60 grand or 55
grand because I mean, these things are $100,000 billable

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surgeries versus if you just write them a script for BPC,
TB500, GHK and Cardilacs, that's6 or 700 bucks.
Likely, you know they're going to heal just as well.
With that naturally over time than they would if you did that
surgery. So it's getting really weird and
there are some really smart orthopedic surgeons out there.
I'll give one name shout out Doctor Elizabeth the earth at

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Mile High in Denver. She works on a lot of pro
athletes. There's a lot of replacement.
Surgeries and I just have conversations with her all the
time about this and she says it's becoming tougher and
tougher for me to leg recommend these surgeries to older people
because again, it's they're not going to heal any better.
Than they would with a 5 or $600.00 peptide, you know,

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prescription, yeah. Do do you believe that, You
know, because one of the things I've thought a lot about is, I
mean, between peptides, HRT, stem cells, there's all of these
things that are disposal now that are being created that can
essentially create like an, A body armor in just this
longevity machine and everythingthat we want.

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But it's frowned upon or you gotto go out of the country to get
stem cells and you and like people look at HRT and
especially testosterone, things like that as if it's this
negative thing when birth control is a kind of the same
kind of idea or thyroid medication is very acceptable.
But as soon as you optimize now it's looked at like a steroid.
Do you think it stems from this loss of money that the

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government and big pharma and medical facilities will actually
have? Is that really what's probably
preventing? Because it doesn't seem like
there's anything dangerous about99% of this stuff.
Yeah, I mean, it's a great question, man.
You asked really good questions.Great job.
I mean, I mean, truthfully, I think the answer is yes.
I think that the normies, you know, I mean, look, I've been,

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I've been promoting it like this.
I know we just met today, but like I've been saying this for
five or six years. There's two different forms of
healthcare now, right? Like there's the optimization
healthcare. Plan and that comes cash pay out
of your pocket. You know, you're not, you're not
going to get that from your general garden variety family
doctor or PPO doctor or HMO doctor, right?
Like those guys, It's like $50 copay and then you get what you

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get. And obviously what you get is
not optimization. You know, I always tell people
like, if you want to do something funny, go down to your
family doctor or your PPO doctorand say, Hey, doc, I want you to
tell me what to do to live to 125.
They'll look at you and be like.What the fuck?
Talk about, you know what I'm saying?
They'll be like, are you sick? Open up, open up your mouth and
say, ah, you know what I mean? Like they're literally stewards

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of sick care and illness medicine.
They're not here to optimize you.
They're not pouring through yourmedical records to see how they
can make you live. Longer and stronger.
So like you as an individual, you have to take that decision,
you know, into your hands and become what I call the proactive
scientist of your own health. And if you do do that, then
you're very, very unlikely to ever go to a regular doctor

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unless your gut shot, you're in a horrible crash, you have
shrapnel, you're bleeding out, and you need to be surgically
sutured and and put back together.
You're not going to go to these people, right?
So if you are like that, and obviously I would assume that
you are, I know I am. You know my circle.
Is, you know, you have like a health optimization Dr. right?
You have a doctor that writes your script for hormones, write
your scripts for peptides, writeyour script for PRP.

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Maybe even more experimental things that you do.
And that's what you do, right? But even those people are
taking, taking stuff into their own hand.
They they order their own labs. I mean I get my labs done at
least once a year and sometimes if I start doing other things.
I'll do 2 labs a year right? Like I have a a deal with a lab
company. Private empty labs.
People can go there. I have 4 different lab profiles

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set up. You know, basic.
For people that don't have a lotof money all the way up to
elite, which costs $2000 to get your labs done, but you see
everything right? Like it's a deepest dive under
the hood and you understand, like all your risk factors, your
inflammatory markers, etcetera. So it really just comes down to
the individual. But your answer or your question
and your answer is right. The system doesn't want healthy
people. You know, I had a very, very

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intelligent mentor, very famous surgeon.
He doesn't like to be known thathe he mentored me, but he helped
me with my books. You know who he is?
He's a famous guy. And he told me in 2014 that he
said if metformin and growth hormone were in the water
supply, there wouldn't be any hospitals or emergency rooms
because there would be nobody sick.

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You know what I'm saying? So it's like the the truth is,
is that you individually and thepeople listening to this
audience and, you know, watchingthis has to take matters into
their own hands because you're not going to get any kind of
optimization. Healthcare.
That's what I call it, you know?If you just rely on them to help
you, it's you got to seek peopleout.
You got to listen to podcasts like this, you got to go on

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YouTube or Instagram and, you know, find doctors and find the
longevity medicine people that truly are into exploring how
long how how, how long and how strong you can live.
And honestly, Cody, like, I believe this.
I mean, I don't even believe it.I know it.
I don't use that word, but I think that anyone who does the
right things and avoids, you know, the probabilities of

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getting hit by a bus or in a carcrash or something like that, I
think you can live to 150 no problem.
I mean, when I look at boomers right now and you know,
obviously my dad will turn 80 this year, he doesn't know the
first thing he and by the way, he's a multi millionaire, highly
intelligent, educated guy. He's retired.
My mom, God rest her soul, died two years ago of COVID.
But you know, he doesn't have the first clue about nutrition.

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He doesn't use testosterone, he thinks I'm a drug dealer.
I mean, he, he has no clue like who I am in this world.
And all the people that I've helped.
And I mean, I've helped hundredsof thousands of people and, and
they live in a different world than you and I live in.
But if you live in the world that you and I live in and you
understand all these things and you already mentioned it, like
therapeutic testosterone, you know, growth hormone, agonist

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peptides, human growth hormone and micro doses, GLP, one
peptides, I mean, all these amazing tools that we now have
at our disposal, all of them improve lifestyle markers, they
improve longevity markers, they lower biological age.
There's absolutely no reason, again, if you can avoid getting
hit by a bus or a plane crash orjust some random thing that you
can't live into your one 20s, one 30s, one 40s and be robust

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and be vigorous. It's just we haven't seen that
yet because of our generation, which, you know, I call myself
the Gen. X generation in your generation.
We're going to be the first generation that's going to be
living to that long as long as we don't blow ourselves up.
And, you know, that's a coin flip, right?
I mean, that's a possibility. But I really do think that there
would be people from our generation right now, 40s,
fifties and even early 60s who are doing all the right things,

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who are going to live at least into their one 20s, one 30s and
not be, you know, tepid and bentover at the spine.
And you know, pop, you know all the issues you see with boomers
today. Yeah, and you know,
unfortunately there's just not enough people that I think it's
getting better, but there's not enough people seeking out
information for themselves instead of just listening and
following. And I mean, I, I had a, that's

(25:50):
why I love doing this podcast. I had a conversation just
literally a couple days ago withmy dad and he brought up, he's
not on testosterone. He brought up testosterone.
He's like, but I know, like I was told, you know, that's it's
probably going to give me a stroke, so I don't.
Want to do that? I'm just like, exactly, hold on
dude. My dad thinks it's cheating.
My dad thinks it's cheating and unethical.
Can you imagine how brainwashed that generation of people is?

(26:11):
Yeah, unless you're an NFL player and you literally can't
take something because then you can't play.
There's no cheating here. There's no.
Cheating. Oh, but trust me, they're on.
Oh, for sure. Absolutely.
They just know how to get aroundit.
They just know how to take the test.
Speaking of which, I actually this is something that was on my
mind as you were kind of breaking some of this down is
and I don't know if you have theanswer, but maybe just what you

(26:32):
think it might be. Where was, you know, especially
peptides, where were they first sought out or tested or, or
'cause I'm just thinking of like, man, was this something
like in military soldiers or is this like athletes or like, who
was the first specimen to be like, I'm using this 'cause I'm
going to get ahead of the competition?
Or was it completely opposite ofthat?

(26:53):
No, dude, the Russians, the Russians and the Bulgarians.
So the Russians and the Bulgarians have been using
peptides, no lie, since the 40s,late 40s, early 50s.
And all of this stuff was, you know, again, when we had the
whole fake Cold War, you know, Imean, don't even get me going.
I could go down so many rabbit holes.
But like all of that, you know, Eastern, Western bloc, the

(27:15):
Russians were using all sorts ofstuff.
I mean, there's a reason the Russian athletes, when you see
them like the women and the men,you know, in the like in the
games, let's just call it the Olympic Games.
And there were other games, but like in the Seventies, 80s and
90s when you saw them and you saw a lot, you're like, what's
going on? You know what I mean?
Like these guys are all on testosterone, they're all on,

(27:38):
again, bio regulators, which area form of peptides.
I mean, they were on everything that they could be on blood
doping, growth hormone, I mean, you name it, right?
So it's like there's 60 years ofresearch with peptides and bio
regulators. You just have to use AI to
translate Bulgarian and Russian textbooks and manuals and and
peer review to see this stuff, right?

(28:00):
So, but they've been using this stuff for a long time.
And then like I said, like even in the underground performance
enhancement community, bodybuilding community, that
stuff like, you know, people have been using peptide since
the early 2000s. I mean, I started using HEPA
Marilyn in 2004. And I had only been using
therapeutic testosterone for five years previous to that.
So it was just, you know, filling it out and, or feeling
it out and learning. And, and again, back then there

(28:23):
were no books, dude. You know, therapeutic
testosterone wasn't prescribed unless you were really lucky.
And how I got it prescribed was I ran into a Harvard educated
endocrinologist in Southern California.
And it was, as I always say, there's no coincidences, only
synchronicities, you know, because me meeting him led me to
write all these books and do allthe things I've done for this to
advance this into the world. But now, I mean, testosterone is

(28:43):
like on every corner. There's windmill clinics, you
know, most of the clinics, like I said that prescribed
testosterone have no earthly idea what they're doing.
Bro, when I say this, I'm not joking. 95% of doctors that
prescribe testosterone have no idea what they're doing.
They tell guys to take AIS. I mean, I'm telling you it's,
it's, it's getting worse. Like in 2017, 2018 and 2019, it

(29:04):
started to get better, but then COVID came and obviously as you
know, the Internet, the signal to noise ratio on the Internet
became insane and. All the bro science that we have
seemingly overcome about testosterone and estrogen and
all this stuff just came back inmass and now it's like out there
and you know, they're I mean, dothey have clinics and compound

(29:24):
pharmacies making testosterone with a eyes compounded into the
medication? I mean aromatase inhibitor is
literally one of the most toxic drugs on the planet.
When you use an AI and you use it to take block your estrogen
or block your testosterone from converting through aromatase
into estrogen, you are literallyshortening your lifespan.
That is clinically provable. It's insane that people do this,

(29:47):
but again, that's the average doctor.
They don't know. They don't teach doctors in
medical school how to optimize people's hormones.
It's insane. It is insane and it's, you know,
crazy enough. I so I'm on TRT and I was
prescribed the very general you.Know.
Unfortunately, it's very difficult to do research.
I know more than most people. This is what I do for a living

(30:07):
and not on hormones to your level, but in this fitness and
nutrition industry, right? And there became a point where
I, I requested to change my prescription and they were
basically tried to say no. And then I showed them blood
work and then showed them that Istill haven't taken any of the
aromatase inhibitors. Oh, and by the way, I started
micro dosing the TRT instead of saying of course you suggested.

(30:28):
And I basically just schooled the person that was providing me
with my medication and they wereexactly.
OK. Well, yeah, we.
Can do it. That's what they say.
They're like, OK, sure, bro. Yeah.
Like. We can do it that way in.
A while and I'm like just I knowwhat I I'm doing so this is
fine. But like, unfortunately, this is
this is the world and This is why I love, again, I love doing
content. I guess I love what guys like

(30:49):
you are doing because it gets information to people with, you
know, circling back to these just general information on
peptides. The way I kind of see this is
there's kind of like 3 categories as far as like
reasons to use peptides in it. I feel like there's healing or
recovery of some sort, there's optimization or longevity, and
then there's performance. And I think performance can be a

(31:10):
combination of those two things,right?
There's obviously fat loss, muscle growth, performance based
ones. So performance might be using
BPC and TB500 to improve injury so that you can get back on the
field faster, right? Or whatever it may be.
So there's obviously crossover. But with regards to these three
categories, what do you see as the most common reason?

(31:33):
So healing, is it a gut? Is it a joint?
Whatever? And what are the primary?
I know there's a lot of peptides, but just like the the
big hitters that are popular that people would probably ask
about in each. Yeah, so basically the way I
classify them and these are goodquestions.
Like I said, bro, you're doing agreat job asking me questions.
It's hard. I do a lot, you know, and I
don't get a lot of great questions, but I appreciate what
I do, so thank you. But.
What when I classify peptides, Ido it and and again, one of my

(31:56):
gifts is breaking things down that are very esoteric and
arcade into very relatable terms.
So it's like the easiest way foryour listeners and anyone
listeners to hear this is like Ihave an issue with X.
What peptide attends to that, you know, condition?
Right. So like what you're saying?
So I like to look at them as like muscle building, fat
burning, cognitive enhancing, healing, what you said, which is

(32:17):
the biggest one for sure. And then you've got longevity,
right? So it's like there's technically
4. You could say healing and
longevity are the same, you know, realistically because they
do obviously there's multiple applications, but let's just
start with healing. So the biggest?
Movers are we already talked about them BPC 157 TB 500 BPC
and increases angiogenesis so itspeeds the rate of healing and

(32:40):
then TB 500 is the inflammation suppression.
Put them together, bam, massively speed the rate of
healing. Add in copper peptide GHKCU to
that mix and you'll even get faster healing.
Now copper peptide should be mentioned on its own because
it's also the rejuvenation peptide.
It's a hair regrowth and restoration peptide, so it does
a lot of thing. I like to call it the Shamwell

(33:01):
peptide because it does so many different things.
But women use copper peptide GHKCU for eliminating fine lines
and wrinkles. You know, rejuvenation.
Just. Improving skin elasticity and
tone and stuff like that. So that's a great one.
And then remember I mentioned you Cardil Axe, which is a new
one, but Cardil Axe is going to be a massive, massive like mover

(33:21):
and shaker peptide within the next six months as more and more
people find out about it becauseit's so profound.
And then I'll mention two other ones, Thymus and A1.
Thymus and A1 I use whenever I fly around.
I fly a lot, all right, fly around the world, fly
transcontinental. I inject it before I get off and
then I inject it when I get to my hotel room or my Airbnb when
I get home because it's a super powerful immunomodulator.

(33:45):
What that means is it improves immunity, right?
So like, you know, you're on these planes and God knows,
dude, but they're spraying on usto kill us, right?
So it's like you get on and off and it's like, man, I'm going to
inject some thymus and A1 because I want to enhance my
immunity. I want to prevent from getting
sick or illness. And honestly, dude, since I
started doing that in 2020, haven't got sick, no COVID, none

(34:07):
of the bullshit, you know, and Iknow that I was sprayed because
you know, dude, like when you'rereally sensitive and in tune
with what's going on, you know when they're spraying in the
plane because you just can feel it going to your throat.
And you're like, I don't want toget a sinus infection.
But that's a great one. There's some other ones I won't
mention. I'll briefly mention LL 37 and
VIPVIP Staffs for vasinal intestinal peptide.
Those are super powerful, like knockout peptides if you get

(34:29):
really sick. Like if you get some bio weapon
bull you want LL 37 on hand because it's super anti
pathogenic, anti virogenic, antimicrobial.
I mean it'll knock out anything and kill it but you want to save
that like in in really bad situations.
And then Vasinal intestinal prepdiet or VIP is a nasal inhaler.

(34:50):
You can also inject it but like if you get blocked in your sinus
from God knows what, you could literally inject that and it
massively opens your Airways. So that's an amazing peptide
along with LL37 to keep in your refrigerator, keep around your
house all the time in case they hit us with God knows what.
Moving out of healing will move into growth.
I mean fat loss and muscle building real.

(35:12):
Quick, I would love to add. I'm going to add something and
then I'm going to ask a questionabout the healing properties.
Just to add, if people listening, you know, again, this
all this is like most things in life, this all comes back down
to money and what they want to control.
Because even like you're talkingabout regenerating your skin and
getting wrinkles. OK, Well, there goes all the

(35:32):
people in the medical field thatmake a lot of money doing Botox.
Exactly. Hair, hair transplant,
surgeries, all these things thatcost 10s of thousands of
dollars, like all these things boil back down to like it's
removing, it's putting the powerand the control into the hands
of the person going through the issues and, and removing it from
the doctor or whoever else, which is crazy.
But the, the follow up question to those two is, is what, you

(35:54):
know, 'cause my mind is going to, especially with like the
tissue regrowth stuff, it's likeobviously there's, you know, you
tear your CL, your meniscus, whatever, but also he got
syndrome or these different issues where you have internal
issues. This is obviously something that
could be helpful for that too. When you say it's speeding up
recovery, how fast are we talking?
Obviously I'm sure it's, you know, the magic is in the dose,
but just so people can understand the difference

(36:16):
between, well, you know, is it that much faster than having
surgery? You know, like.
Yeah, So I mean, like I said earlier, I mean, you know,
again, there's there's factors, right, like the young, the the
age of the cells, right. So younger person, healthier
person, less inflammation, less body fat, they're going to heal
at a faster, more accelerated rate than a, a, a non one of

(36:36):
those people. But it's 7 to 10 times faster,
right? So again, like the best way to
say it, like a 30 year old man or woman, good health fitness
train, have muscle or low body fat.
If they tear their distal bicep tendon, you know, off the bone,
it's going to take four months to four to six months to heal.

(36:56):
And most likely the bone or the bicep tendon on the bone will
always be broken and not there. It'll be like you'll see that,
you know, when they get healthy and it flexes, the bicep will
cut off right there. If you inject BPC Yeah, it's a
it's a fighter injury. If you inject BPC or TV 500 into
that area dude I swear to God it'll be healed in six.
To 8 weeks. Now it's now that's regularly

(37:17):
right. So I mean, again, I, I said four
to six months now 6 to 8 weeks. So it's 7 to 10 times faster,
you know, mathematically, again,depending on that person's rate
of healing and their cell cellular age and how, how good a
shape and how good their nutrition and sleep and all that
stuff is. But it's pretty, it's pretty
profound. And and going back to what else
you said too, because it's I'm glad you brought it up.

(37:37):
We're literally about. To come out with a hair regrowth
product that I'm not joking is going to cost.
Probably $1000 but it'll regrow hair on a cue ball.
So going to Turkey and you know,spending 8:10 12/15/20.
Grand for a hair transplant? Guys won't need to do that now.
Again, the people that get the best response are the best
cellularly healthy people. So you can't be a fat flaming,

(38:01):
you know, tune up, I mean, a pizza, beer drink and dumpster
fire with no hair and think you're going to get better
results with that than somebody who takes great care of
themselves and sleeps and eats meticulously.
You'll still get something, but you're not going to get the hair
regrowth that somebody else does.
And just so I can say this for this show, because I don't talk
about this and people get mad, very few people in the world

(38:23):
even knows what causes hair loss.
The average person who knows something about it thinks it's
due to DHT inhibition. Or DHT diminutizing the
follicles in the scalp. It's completely not true.
How we lose hair as we get olderis due to blood flow restriction
to the scalp. So what causes that?
Dude, Hundreds of thousands of things.

(38:44):
Heavy metal exposure, sunlight, EMF, just eating poorly, you
know, killing obviously insulin signaling and receptors,
sensitivity to your head becauseyou're not getting blood flow up
there anymore. I mean, again, there's so many
causal agents, but people when Isay that, they'll ask me, well,
if that's true, if you hung upside down, would you have
better hair growth? The answer is yes.

(39:05):
There are people out there that literally hang in traction
things for like 30. I swear to God in my life.
I mean, I know some of these people, they hang in those
traction things for like 30 minutes a night and they put
GHKCU on their scalp and a red light cap and their hair stays
great. Even with genetic, you know,
androgenic alopecia, which is a genetic predisposition hair
loss. So depending on how aggressive

(39:25):
anal where 10 of you are, you can keep your hair even if
you're genetically prone to loseit.
You just have to do the right things.
And so that's what it is. What causes hair loss is blood
flow restriction. Yeah, and this is like a a point
that you made about just somebody being health healthy,
causing a better response to some of these things.
This is why. And, and I just want to point
this out because stem cells is asimilar topic, you know, of

(39:48):
discussion and I think a lot of people they don't understand
this part. And so they assume any stem cell
is going to work. And it's, it's not,
unfortunately, it's illegal in the United States.
But if you get stems, I watched my dad do this too because he
had to end up getting double hipsurgery on both sides and he get
the stem cell route paid out. Dude, my dad did too by the way
and like. You know when he gets stem cells

(40:08):
for this, They're his stem cells.
I'm like you're your stem cells are not going to be the same as
the stem cells from a baby fetusthat they're actually in
Argentina or Mexico or whatever.And so those healthy cells are
going to work rapidly. That's why the UFC have that
that center in Mexico that the designers go to.
Yeah, exactly. But by.
By the way, did your did your dad get any benefits from his

(40:29):
own stem cells? Probably not, right?
I think he felt better for like a month, at most.
Two weeks. Yeah.
And he's a golfer and stuff, youknow, so he started feeling
everything. But I, I for all we know, it
could have been placebo. I mean, dude, don't even get me
going on that, but at least yourdad did stem cells.
My dad wouldn't even do that. My dad is just not get old

(40:49):
naturally and die, you know whatI mean?
Like they're not going to try anything experimental.
It's insane. He's needed testosterone for 30
years, you know? But I mean, again, it is what it
is. But to your point, getting back
to that and just, you know, keeping going with the peptides,
you do have to make a decision because the system is designed
to suck you dry, right? Hair regrowth, Botox.

(41:12):
I mean, you know, Botox for women, it never ends.
You know what I'm saying? Like it's just you constantly
are injecting in a virulent, youknow, pathogenic agent that God
knows what that's going to do over time either, right?
Because it's literally paralyzing your cells so that
your skin says, I mean, I've never done any of that.
I won't do that. I'm just going to get old.
I mean, I'll use peptides and other stuff, but I'm not going
to do like that. But hey, my wife does it and I

(41:33):
understand women, you know, theywant to look younger and feel
younger and blah, blah, blah. And if you have the money and
the means and you have the rightperson, fine, go for it, right?
But it's like at the end of the day, it's expensive, like you
said, and it never ends versus, you know, these peptides and
bioregulators and serums and injectables and all these new
things. And they're probably going to
offer as good, if not better. But Cody, the issue is, like you

(41:55):
said, like you have to become the proactive scientist of your
own health. You have to learn how to use
these. You have to reconstitute, you
know, you have to take ownershipand, and a lot of people don't
want to take ownership. They just want to be children
and they want somebody else to do it for them, whether it's a
doctor. Or a nurse.
Or whatever. And if they're like, hey, I make
enough money, I've been successful in my life.
I want to do it that way. I don't want to, I don't want to

(42:16):
put my brain under the pressure of having to learn how to do
this myself. And that's cool if that's and
that's the path you want to go. But I mean, I teach people how
to do it themselves. Yeah.
And the listeners of the this podcast, they want that.
That's why they're listening. So OK, so we, we touched on
healing. Now we let's move into either,
you know, optimization or performance, whatever 1 you want
to tackle. First, yeah, so let's do it.
So we'll go three more down South, Fat loss and muscle

(42:38):
building. Which would be.
Performance, so you've got the best ones are GH agonist
peptides. There's three that are worth
mentioning. There are others, but that is
tessamerellin, which is actuallya pharmaceutically approved, FDA
approved. Peptide called a.
Grifta and that peptide was madefor men that have HIV because
they get this disease that is known as lipodystrophy.

(42:59):
And lipodystrophy when you have HIV is basically this hard
visceral fat right around the belly.
So if a person like you and me who's into longevity for using
these peptides injects that right into the round the belly
button area, it shreds through belly fat.
So very powerful peptide to shred through belly fat.
The next one would be ipamerellin and ipamerellin is

(43:21):
probably the number one GH agonist peptide, most well
known. It's also the most studied, it
has the least amount of side effects because it does not
disturb the body's endogenous production of growth hormone,
right? So like our pituitary is what
releases growth hormone. As we get older, it releases
less and less. That's why people inject human
growth hormone, which by the way, human growth hormone is

(43:41):
amazing. A micro dose of human growth
hormone is going to be better than any GH agonist peptide.
And also, I like to say this to people because a lot of people
in the medical community get this confused.
As we get older, we don't produce natural growth hormone,
right? Like our IGF 1 levels fall.
And so if peptides theoreticallyincrease natural IGF one

(44:02):
production, then if you don't have any, what is a peptide
actually doing, right? So like if you're in your late
50s and your early 60s and you don't have any IGF one and you
can obviously go get it measured, you can get a lab
test. Peptides have very limited
viability, right? So it's like if you're one of
those people, then you need to just go on human growth hormone
and stay on a micro dose of human growth hormone forever.

(44:22):
And it's very affordable. Now, you know, if I said that
five years ago, people be like, yeah, but Jay, it's $6000 a
month to have a script for growth hormone.
Not anymore. You can buy it overseas and get
that you you can get a year. Supply of human growth hormone
in a pen for 4500 bucks. Right.
And most people can afford that.But back to the growth of the GH

(44:44):
agonist peptides. IPA is great.
And then the next one would be CJC 1295 and that's a very
strong growth hormone agonist peptide.
I don't like it as much because a lot of people feel like a, a
flushing, they feel kind of likea niacin, you know, they don't
get nauseous, but they just you,you feel it for a couple minutes
after you inject it. So I don't like it as much as

(45:05):
the other two because the other two don't produce that.
But all three of those peptides increase natural growth hormone
production. They improve skin elasticity,
they improve deeper sleep definitely, and help with fat
loss. If your diet's on point, if
you're using therapeutic testosterone or therapeutic
hormones, it can help with muscle building too.
But those are your, those are your three biggest needle

(45:26):
movers. Now to, to stay on performance.
We, we probably should talk about the mitochondrial
optimizing peptides. And there's three of those,
there's mod C 5 amino, one MQ, which can be taken orally or
injectable. And then the other one, which is
my favorite one is called SS31. And SS31 is my favorite peptide

(45:47):
because it's essentially an amplifier peptide.
And what that means is if you'reon therapeutic testosterone or
even growth hormone and anythingelse, it amplifies the cells
signaling cascades and pathways.So what that means is, like, for
example, if you're on testosterone or growth hormone,
your androgen receptors are peaked or popped or amplified

(46:07):
when you're taking s s 31. So you can actually use less
growth hormones, less therapeutic testosterone, and
get a similar effect if you wereusing more.
So s s 31 is an amazing peptide.Obviously, it also amplifies and
optimizes your mitochondria spin, the rate of spin.
So it's just a really awesome peptide to take when you're in
the full health optimization. Mott C is as strong as s s 31,

(46:30):
but it's probably better for people that are heavier and more
metabolically deranged because it it turns the, it turns your
mitochondria on somebody like meor you who's already pretty
health optimized, you already have pretty good functioning
mitochondria. So you won't feel Mott C as much
as somebody who's heavy and has too much inflammation or too
much body fat, especially visceral body fat.

(46:50):
So that's a really good peptide for heavy people.
It's also a really good peptide for a person who's fat and wants
to get in shape, but says they have no energy to train or to
exercise or to do cardio. If you give them Mott C and
therapeutic testosterone at the same time, they have energy.
And so it really can be a good needle mover to get them over
the hump, to get them to a pointwhere they can lose, you know,

(47:10):
2030 lbs and then feel good enough about themselves that
they can continue and lose all the fat.
So I love that. And then the other peptide is 5
amino and five amino can be orally consumed up to 150
milligrams a day or injected. I think the injectable format is
a little bit better and a littlebit more effective, but it's
also similar to Mott C and that it will enhance mitochondrial

(47:32):
optimization and power. So you'll have more, more
strength in the gym, more force production and more energy when
you're doing cardio. And again, if you're heavy,
you're just going to feel better, right?
Because again, heavy people, they're inflamed.
They don't feel like you and I they're not motivated to go to
the gym because they just don't have the energy to exercise.
But if you give them those mitochondrial peptides, they
feel a lot better and they usually get that energy.

(47:54):
So those would be. Like my top 6 peptides for like
performance enhancement? I love that you touched on
growth hormone briefly too, justbecause I think that there's
some of these that have names that are commonly and
stereotypically associated with performance enhancement drugs
for bodybuilding, especially in the fitness world.
You know, and there's, there's alot of bodybuilders that have

(48:17):
died over the years. And you know, the media just
points a finger at steroids and steroids is this huge umbrella
topic of like they what, what people don't realize when
somebody dies from steroids is that they're taking a lot of
different things. They're taking extreme dosages.
And I mean, some of the, I've been to Mr. Olympia, these these
dudes are for freaks. And seeing them in person, I

(48:37):
mean, it's amazing. It's an amazing show to see.
They are so big like it is, it'sinsane.
They're cartoon characters, dude.
They are, it is wild. So I, it just, I just wanted to
mention that 'cause I think, I mean, I know of a, a little boy
who is, he had a lot of stunninggrowth.
He's taking growth home every single day cause doctors try to
make sure that he grows up and is big enough, you know, so

(48:58):
people need to know more about these topics.
But quick question on some of those.
What I, I, I experimented with one of the growth hormones,
secretagog peptides and I want to say it was ipamorilin in
something else. I can't remember.
It was probably IPA and CJC together that you'll see that a
lot. Yes, and it was a daily
subcutaneous injection. And that's part of the reason

(49:20):
why, you know, for me, I, I am younger and I don't, I don't,
it's not something I needed, butit was I was starting to
experiment. I like doing that, my client's
question stuff and it, it just, I don't want to take that every
day. Like it's just annoying.
Is are all of them this way? Are some of them you just take
bigger dosage? I, I, it's just a question I
thought of that I probably should ask because people are
probably wondering, well, like, how often do I got to take this

(49:41):
stuff? Yeah.
So I mean, so most injectable peptides you take at least five
to six days a week. If it's a growth hormone agonist
peptide, you're going to take itdaily to get the effects.
But healing peptides are cognitive enhancing peptides.
You can probably. Inject it two or three times a
week. It's not every day.
For BPC and TV 500, if you're severely injured and critically

(50:03):
injured or you know, acutely, you know, you have acute tear,
you're going to take that twice a day until the inflammation is
gone. So I mean, again, you know,
depending on how much you know about these things and you know
how used to you are, you're using a 31 or a 32 gauge needle.
The big advancement, you know, because this is now we're going
down the rabbit hole. The big advancement now in
peptides is you can use pens. So you can use a medical grade

(50:26):
pen to inject multiple peptides at one time, which is a game
changer. I mean, I've been using a pen
now for close to a year and that's massively, radically up
regulated my peptide game. In fact, this morning I have to
do this now every six months. I made six new pens and it was 6
pens of my peptides, right? So it's like my, the primary

(50:48):
peptides I use are BBC and TB500together, right?
I always have a pen of that because you never know when
injuries going to strike. I use my GLP one peptide, the
third, the triple stage agonist GLP 3, which is called red a
true tide. I always have a pen of that.
I have a pen of melanotanin one because melanotanin 1 darkens my
skin and also enhances my consciousness.

(51:10):
And then I have thymus and A1, which is the immunomodulator
peptide that I always have because you never know when
you're going to get sick. And plus I travel so much.
And then the other two peptides or tirzepatide, which my wife
and I every now and then use, it's a appetite suppression
peptide. It's also a stage 2 GLPA.
Lot of people use that as they know it as Manjaro or Zep bound.

(51:31):
And then the the last peptide isSS31, right, the amplifier
peptide. So I mean, it takes me now like
every six months I redo the pensbecause they're each like in a
cartridge. I don't have it in front of me
right now, but they're each in acartridge or three milliliter
cartridge. So a three milliliter cartridge
is going to last a person like 4to 5 months depending on how

(51:51):
much they use it. So but it massively speeds up
your life use of that because you don't have to reconstitute.
You're not pulling out an insulin syringe.
And seriously, Cody, I don't have it on me right now, but
it's a four MMM needle. So you can jab your eyeball with
it, not feel it. Jeez.
Yeah, so I mean, honestly, dude,I inject here, I inject here, I
inject my glutes, I inject in mylower abs and my belly button.

(52:14):
I mean, I have no fat right now on my on my lower abs.
So like I have to be cautious that I don't, you know, hit the
muscle. But in in truth, man, it's
changed the game for peptides. Like most people that are using
peptides that are pretty advanced now are using pets.
Yeah. Oh, this is insane, man.
OK, so as we kind of wind down, I feel like we've covered so
much ground. I would love to just hear really

(52:35):
just for you to plug your company so people know where
they can access some of this stuff.
And, and I'm assuming really I can just kind of drop your
content, your website, that kindof stuff.
But just kind of give us an ideaof, of how do people access this
kind of these peptides and, and going this route?
So for sure, so First off, my website isjcampbell.com, it's

(52:57):
just Jay and then like campbellsoup.com and that site
last month had 64,000 unique visitors.
So it's like top three websites on planet earth for peptide
related information. There's a lot of biohacking
information there. But as of last count, my SEO guy
told me that we had 103 articlesthat are either top five
rankings on Google. Now that's an amazing

(53:18):
accomplishment for me because bro, I've been heavily shadow
band and suppressed for my content.
Obviously I've been talking about testosterone since 2014.
YouTube ships suppresses me, X suppresses me.
Instagram suppresses me. I mean, it's crazy.
I have really good social media teams.
I got to give them all the credit.
You know that they've even been able to get me up to like I'm
like, I have like 55,000 followers on Instagram, which I

(53:40):
have no idea how, because like Icould have a 12 million
impression posts like a a seriesof posts on X and I get one
follower. It's such a scam, dude.
I mean, like the X gods literally are like, Oh no, we
can't have Jay Campbell go viral.
His information is too important.

(54:01):
Like he would, he would blow up the whole medical, you know, the
the medical establishment. So we can't have, but it's crazy
because I've had all these teamsover the years, but again, shout
out to them. But you can find me obviously on
social media. It's Jay Campbell 333.
I don't know if you can see it over here, but 333 stands for
the connection between master teachers and spirit.
Obviously I know a lot about peptides and hormones, but

(54:22):
truthfully bro, my jam is consciousness.
Now I talk to people about raising their consciousness.
That's like the most important thing for me.
So I know we didn't talk about that today, but we could always
come back. If you want to meet him, bring
back and talk about this. But my company is Bio Longevity
Labs and we launched it in October of last year.
And I really honestly do have the envision.
It's not envisioned, it's the. Knowledge that it's going to

(54:43):
become the Amazon for biohackers.
Our goal is to ship globally, which we're already doing right
now. There are definitely countries
in EU and Scandinavian countriesthat will not let our products
come in no matter what we do or how we, you know, get them,
attempt to get them to you. So if you live in Switzerland or
you live in Denmark, don't try to buy it and ship it to us
because you won't get it. They will steal it at your

(55:03):
customs. I do have a affiliate code.
Again, I own the company so it doesn't matter, but it's JAYC
and it's any every time you use that code you get 15.
Percent off our products. Just to talk about our product
for a second, every single product that we make is
manufactured in the United States.
It's all GMP compliant, it's allsterility process and

(55:25):
controlled. Both of the labs that we make,
one is in Philadelphia, 1 is in Orlando, FL.
They are both FDA registered andcertified.
Again, research is not FDA approved.
It's a big scam, right? Like you got to pay for play.
I mean, to be FDA approved, you have to go through all these,
you know, rites of passage and pay the FDA as many bribes as

(55:45):
you possibly can to get that. But it's it we are FDA certified
and registered in both of our labs.
So anybody who buys our productsis going to get the Real McCoy.
You're not getting, you know, low quality ingredients are
coming out of a, you know, a rat, what do you call it?
A rat infested container from China.
It's everything's made in the United States.
So we have amazing products thatdo like we have 82 skews as of

(56:07):
right now. So I mean any research peptide
that's oral or injectable that is worth anything we sell.
We have 6 proprietary oral formulations that are the best
in the industry right now. We have a product called Bio Gut
Pro and it literally will cure any gut dysbiotic issue or
condition within two to three weeks.
It has every single gut enhancing or gut, gut gut

(56:29):
destroying peptide KPVBPCTV 500,Tributrin P/E AI mean every
single thing. It's like a kitchen sink
peptide. And then we also have one called
Bio Mine and it's brand new by the way, it's only three weeks
old, but it's a nootropic peptide and we have 3 three
products in that Dyhexa, the nootropic peptide J147.

(56:52):
Now, most people don't know whatJ 147 is, but it's actually a
stage 2 Alzheimer's drug that's showing incredible promise and
clinical trials. And then it's got new PEPT in
it. So that that nootropic, it's an
oral capsule. You take two in the morning.
I will put that nootropic up against pretty much anything in
the marketplace. Like it doesn't cause
jitteriness. It will not stimulate heart rate
or accelerate your heart rate. So you're not going to get

(57:13):
wired. It just like makes the lights
brighter like you just. Have more focus, everything just
seems better and it also kind ofputs you in a good mood.
And then the other product that I would want to mention is Meta
Shred. And Meta Shred is the strongest
fat loss oral product in the world.
It's a mitochondrial supplement with SLU PP-332 combined with a

(57:35):
product called BAM 15 and BAM 15is a is a metabolic on coupler.
So the bodybuilder Bros that arewatching this show, they all
know what DNP was and DNP you know you can't use because it's
so, so bad and so high risky foryou.
But this is like a safe version of DNP.
So you can take it increase sweating, increase resting
thermogenesis. Anyone who takes it before
exercise will sweat more and have a more productive workout

(57:56):
because it also enhances force production.
So those three oral supplements that we sell are absolutely best
in class, top of the line, tip of the spear.
So you know, if you're interested, just use the code JC
or JAYC and you'll get 15%. Off your your purchase.
I love it, man, Super, super helpful.
I'm going to link all that in the description of this podcast
so people can go check all that out, as well as your content,

(58:17):
your products, everything. One final quick question for you
that I ask all my listeners, because this podcast is the
Choose Hard podcast is just whatChoose Hard means to you in your
daily life. Yeah, so choose hard is a great
point or statement this way I look at, I'll just throw a
consciousness angle in there foryou.
We come here as souls to evolve and grow, and you're going to

(58:41):
evolve and grow the most by choosing to deal with contrast.
So every time your life deals you an obstacle in your path,
whatever it is, don't complain, don't become a victim.
Embrace it, look into it, grasp it and say thank you, God for
providing this challenge for me.Because when I overcome it or I

(59:03):
solve it, I'm going to be that much evolved, that much better
evolved as a soul. And that is the whole purpose
for my growth as a, as a human being to evolve and grow my
soul. So there's no such thing as, you
know, debacles, Fiasco's, mishaps, problems.
There are only solutions, but it's up to you to see.
How to solve whatever is put in your way.
And again, the bigger the obstacle, the greater the

(59:25):
contrast, the greater the opportunity for growth.
Oh man, I love that. Such a great answer.
Thank you dude. Thank you.
Thank you for spending the time.This has been amazing.
I appreciate it a ton. I learned a lot.
I know the audience is going to learn a lot.
I'm going to link all your stuffin the show notes so they can
check that out. And again, I just appreciate you
coming on the show and spend time with me.
Dude, I love your goatee. I wish I could get my goatee as

(59:46):
dark as yours but man honestly thank you for having me man.
It was a great show. You have a great way with your
guests and your questions were beautiful.
So let me know how I can serve you further, I'd love to.

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