#71 - Your Biggest Fitness Mindset Mistakes — Fixed [Q&A w/ Coach Kyle] - Choose Hard with Cody McBroom

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In this episode of the Choose Hard podcast, I have the one and
only KJ Kyle Johnson on the show.
KJ is a relatively new coach on the tailored coaching methods
staff, but he has been with us for a while, has created
countless transformations with clients that have hired us.
But also he was a client of oursfor a long time and saw an
amazing transformation with us before becoming a coach.

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And the story behind that is really funny.
Long story short, I kind of pissed him off.
And because I pissed him off, heended up creating an insane
transformation and getting hiredon my staff.
And we're going to tell that story.
And I think you're going to learn a lot about how something
that triggers you or something that creates a fence or
insecurity can actually be turned into a triumphant story
of impactful inspiration and life transformation.

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And Kyle did just that. He set a perfect example of how
you can take a negative and turnit into such positive.
And so we're going to go over a story and then he's going to
bring to the table a bunch of questions around fitness,
nutrition, and coaching. So we're going to dive into fat
loss mindset. We're going to dive into really
just the hustle culture around my journey, what I've had to do,
and we work through some different extra precise
questions. I think you're going to get a
lot out of this, especially if you're somebody who is either A,

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getting coached or be seeking coaching or C, looking to
transform. And maybe you don't have a coach
or weren't thinking about getting coached.
But after this podcast, you might think about getting a
coach, but you'll definitely learn a bit about how to train,
diet, better body composition change.
So without any further ado, let's get into this powerful Q&A
with the one and only Kyle Johnson.

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The greatest things in life all start with a challenge.
You must accept that everything is hard.
Every, every, every, everything you want in life begins.
With a hard path. Kyle's been on the Tailored
Transformations podcast, which will become the Tailored
Coaching Method podcast. We're changing the name of that
soon, so I'll link that in the description.

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That's where you can hear clienttransformations, just coaching
guidance. Some of the we're going to
actually do some like archived episodes of like episode 300 of
the Tailored Life podcast when Ihad, you know, Eric Holmes or
Mike Isitel or it's me doing Q&Aon certain topics because it's
such good content. But people would have to scroll
back 1000 episodes to get to it,you know, So we'll link that in

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the description. But Kyle was also a client of
ours, had a huge transformation.He's been in the industry as a
trainer for how long? 10 or 11 years at least.
Yeah. So how old are you?
I am 34. OK, so he's been.
This is basically all you've done, Really.
Yeah. I mean, like for like a literal
career. So very similar to me.

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He's from here. Washington.
Where were you born, actually? I was born in Des Moines, so,
you know, real close right there, I think.
Highline Hospital. Yeah, OK.
Where did you live by when you were like, real like a kid?
When we were really young, it was really close to the high
school, actually Mount Rainier High School in Des Moines and
not too far away from the Marina.

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Grew up going to Des Moines Elementary.
Like if you know, right around that area, small, small little
town, you know, Marina, 4th of July, all that kind of stuff.
Super fun. Yeah, I, so I moved to Des
Moines when I was in 9th grade, I think 9th or 10th grade, but
so I didn't go to any of those schools because my, when we
moved, my brother had just got his license, so he would still

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drive us all the way down to Tacoma, basically Fife.
But 5 Tacoma's deep every morning for school.
But I skated all those schools, got kicked out a couple of those
schools for skateboarding and stuff.
But give us like a synopsis, just a real quick nutshell, who
you are. And then we'll just kind of dive

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right into the, to the questions, 'cause we're gonna
essentially for the listeners, we're gonna go through
questions. I have no idea what they are.
Kyle's gonna basically ask me questions.
There'll probably be some dialogue and feedback, mainly
'cause I just miss doing Q. And as with people, it's so
nice. And this is a really good
opportunity to introduce one of our coaches that hasn't had a
chance to be on the podcast yet,but has been with the team for a

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bit now and has been with the company for a bit, 'cause you
were working with us. Which is a cool, cool story in
itself. But just give us a nutshell,
man. Who is Who's Kyle Johnson?
Yeah, absolutely. Well, first and foremost, thank
you for having me on. It's very surreal, to be honest
'cause I remember listening to the Tail Life podcast years and

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years and years. I wasn't quite around when it
was Boom boom performance podcast, but it was still like a
thing. I would listen to it and all the
guests you had on, like you said, like Eric Helms, you know,
Stan efforting like huge guys inthe industry.
I'm sitting there like, who is this guy?
You know, And you'd worked at Vigor at the time and I'd known
you from then and Theo and it was, it was insane.

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So to be here, you know, on the podcast, like talking to you and
then obviously doing the podcastwith Ariel, it just feels like
like 5 year ago Kyle would have been like, dude, what is going
on right now? Kind of like a little freak out
moment. Yeah, all right, cool.
That's. Good.
That's but like to me that's, I mean, it's really just like
you're the perfect example of hard work, like you're going to

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get into it, but like putting your mind to something and just
doing it. And I'll, I'll say this too,
man, actually, I've never said this to you.
I've heard this a couple times. Alex just said it to me
recently. Alex Cod he said his exact words
were KJ is one of those guys where he puts his mind to
something. Dude, that guy just gets it
done. He won't stop until he does it.
I was like, that's dope to hear.Like 'cause I didn't really

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prompt anything. I just, I think he mentioned
something about your transformation and then he just
started talking about it and I was like a stop 'cause he's
known you for. Quite a while.
If anyone's going to know me other than like my own personal
family, Alex is going to be the one.
I mean I was roommates with thatguy for like 10 plus years.
We lived in his dad's rental house.
Been through everything together.
Best friends to this day. So like, yeah, absolutely.

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But even just like my own story,like how I got started.
So I mean, I've been a trainer. You've mentioned that I've been
a trainer for 10 plus years. Still train people and clients,
you know, in persons today. I love doing that.
It is an amazing feeling to be able to change people's lives
just because like you're that person that they look to.
That's like, I don't know exactly what I'm doing or I need

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a little extra push. I need my form.
I need this. And you get to be the, the, the,
the guide. You get to be the person walking
right along with them and just like showing them everything
they're doing, pumping them up when they need a little extra
juice in the morning. They don't feel like it's Friday
morning. Shoot, even this morning I was
in the gym, people are sitting there just dragging it and
they're like, Oh my gosh, it's Friday.
I'm like, it's Friday, Like damnright, it's Friday.

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And they're like, oh, here's Kyle again.
He's all happy and pumped up. I'm like, give me one good
reason why not to be like, that's who I've been throughout
this whole process. And it kind of kept me going
when it comes to personal training.
Cause for the coaches out there,they know sometimes it's a
grind. Like you're in the gym long
hours, you're there early in themorning, late at night, you're

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there when people can make it. So that's just how.
It goes and then the days that you don't want to be there, I
mean, like theoretically we always want to be there.
But of course there's even even us coaches aren't superheroes,
you know, there's days where we're just not motivated.
You have to go into the gym and be, I mean, we got to do this
online too, but like, I don't know, 'cause we do so much

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virtual like video zoom loom, like we have to still do this.
But there was a point where it was easier to fake it.
You, you can't now you have to get into the mode because if you
go into the gym and you're not motivated to go, but you're
people are waiting for you therewho need you to get them
motivated, it's like like you have no choice.
There is no choice. You know.

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But you get. Better at it over time.
It's a skill. And when I was young, it was
just like, fake it till you makeit.
You know, you're learning the skills as you go along.
I mean, shoot, I remember when you're in your early 20s, I'm
showing up on a Saturday morning.
I'm like, I'm still a little hungover, to be honest.
But we're going to get this thing going, you know, quickly
grew out of that because you realize I'm going to, I'm going
to burnout so fast if I do that too many times.

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But yeah, like throughout the years, just learning, getting
more certifications, listening to podcasts, reading books,
being around other trainers who genuinely are just like, better
than me and really growing theirbusinesses.
That's why I listen to this podcast for so long, 'cause I
was like, man, like I can be around in the gym and have other
trainers who are there and they're pushing me and that's

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great. But I always wanted more.
And that's where that growth came from in terms of wanting to
join this team. I think I told you throughout my
own process, like when I hired Taylor Coaching Method, I hopped
on the sales call with you and Itold you I was like, when when
I, you know, lose this weight and I have my transformation,
like you're going to hire me, right?
And at that point, to be honest,like I'm sitting there going

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like, OK, fingers crossed, you know, but I wanted to put it out
there into the universe and be like, no, like I'm going to say
it out loud. So at least even if it's a no,
Cody knows it. And I put in the work.
I did that effort and learned more about myself in that year
than I probably have in the past10 years combined because it was
so much more about self reflection and just learning who

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I was than anything else. So.
And dude, as as a like as the leader of the company when it's
funny too, because I've, I've over the years, just as you
know, being transparent as a, the owner of a coaching company,
I'm one of my like worst traits that I've had to like work on is

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just giving everybody the Ben ofthe doubt always.
It's like they probably mean well, they're probably a good
person. They'll probably be trusted.
You know, I just always I, I don't know what it is, but women
have the best instincts. So I rely on like my wife and
Ariel quite a bit to like vet everything now and stuff, But
which by the way, like my wife competent multiple times.

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She was like, I love Kyle and Katie, she loved you too.
That was protection at either ofyou guys.
Kyle and Katie Johnson came out of the team at the same time,
both previous clients completelyunrelated, completely unrelated.
So but anyway, it's like there'sno better way to like earn my
trust guaranteed. And when I say trust, I mean

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like, I mean, you think about it.
This is where and and I love this part.
Like this is the part that firesme up.
Like I shared with you guys in that voicemail the other day,
Like I went to my daughter's cheer conditioning thing and
there's this random guy walking around the track with a tailored
shirt. Shannon was embarrassed 'cause
she she was pointed it out, 'cause I'm like the type where I
just like kind of zone out. I'm just like, I can just block
out my surroundings, which is good and bad.

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And she's like, that guy's wearing a tailored shirt.
And I was like, holy shit, I'm going to hop the fence.
She's like, what? No.
And I was like, yeah, I'm going to run over there to the like
the football practice and like walk track with him, talk to
him. And she's like, don't.
And he was on the phone and I was like, pacing, waiting for
him to hang up. And she's like, you're so
embarrassing. Like, just just chill.
He probably wants time. And then finally, when I get
over there, he was like, smilingat me as I was walking by.

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And he was like, I don't know ifyou Remember Me.
And then we were talking. His name's Gary.
And like, we were bullshitting for a while.
Another person walks up. The coach of the football team
used to be a client of mine whenhe was an athlete in high school
and college football player. I trained him and his brother.
So he came over and started talking to us.
And then Brandon's client, Maria's walking the track too,
stops us conversation. She's like, I don't know if you

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Remember Me. I'm one of Brandon's clients.
And she reminded me I'm terribleat names.
So she Maria and I was like, your husband's the cop, Eric.
And she's like, yes. And it's like dope driving home,
see another person walking her dog.
And and that was Brianna as we were going by.
And I'm like, like, that's the, I love it so much.
So I love being the one that is like the poster boy has the

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megaphone be the Billboard, go like rally the troops.
But also because all of that is on my back, it means it's a
reflection of me. And so when I'm just handing
clients that are coming on board, people are trusting us to
help them with their life. And you know, this as a coach
and a trainer, man, it's never just fitness, never just

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nutrition. It's so much deeper, you know,
and so we have these people who are trusting us.
And then I'm just going here, Kyle here, Katie here, Brantley,
you know, like, I have to have so much trust in the team to do
that because if anything goes bad, it's on me.
You know, I mean it's on the company, but that is on me.
No pressure. No pressure, right?

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But, you know, pressure's a privilege, man.
Pressure. If you can't take pressure and
make purpose with it, like you're gonna have a tough time,
man, you know? And so, but I say all that to
say, you doing what you did by telling me that.
And in a cocky way. And like in a good cocky, I
think there's like confident cocky and then arrogant.

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Arrogant is like ridiculous. But you said in a way.
And I was like, OK, motherfucker, let's see it, you
know, and you did it. And so there's, to me, it was
like when we were getting ready to hire again, it was like, OK,
well, we know Kyle, he's coming.Like, I don't know if I said it
that way, 'cause I didn't want to like blow smoke to you, but
that was like a hands down, I was like, there's no he already.

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He already proved it. You know what I mean?
Like that. And so anyway, that's to me,
that's the dopest thing. I couldn't tell you how excited
I was when you finally had like,reached out and talked to me
about that, 'cause I was sittingthere and I talked to my coach
about it a little bit here and there.
Kind of throw it out, you know, throw feelers out because like,
you know, I'm getting ready to move.
Me and my girlfriend are gettingready to move across the

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country. And there's that unknown where
I'm sitting there. Like we've already made-up my
mind. We're going, I'll make it happen
no matter what. Like if I have to find a gym
where I'm training, start brand new, I'll do it right.
But there's that line out there for the big fish that I'm like,
that's the dream. That's what I want.
If I don't throw this line out, I'm not catching this fish.
There's not even chance for me like.

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Did you guys know you were gonnamove back then too?
Absolutely. We knew we were gonna move.
We needed to save money. I was still paying for coaching.
Financially, I should not have done that, right?
Save your money. Absolutely not.
There was no chance because thatwas like the first step in the
process of like this is, you know, my ultimate goal.
We talk about ultimate goals a lot.

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Like the first thing on my ultimate goal, every single
check in was make myself proud. Yeah.
Before that, it was constant up and down.
I would lose 10/15/20 pounds because oh, I know the macros,
I'm a coach, I've been doing this forever and I could get
away with it for a certain period of time.
But there wasn't that deep self reflection of like, I'm not

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finishing what I started. And until I put that first, make
myself proud. And what was that?
It was finishing what I started.It was, you know, if I put a
number on things, get it done. And that was what, what kicked
that purpose on. So when we decided to move, it
was like, this is how it's going.
And you know, I had to, I had toshoot my shot one way or
another. And I was very, very happy that

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I stuck with it 'cause obviouslyI'm here today.
Yeah, let me ask you this cause to me I see three things.
I see one the make myself proud part.
I like that. I think not enough people, none
of people really think about that.
And it's like, can you lay your head down on your pillow at the
end of the night and be like, man, I'm proud of how I showed
up today. You know, even if things don't

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go your way and look, there's going to be days and nights
where, dude, I'm not joking. Last night was the first night
in a long time where I laid my head down and I wasn't my whole
day was great. I was proud of myself,
everything. But there was just one last
thing and it was it was I was put in blanket to bed and it was
in it was realistically, she's 7.

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This happens. There's some nights where she
she just don't want to go to bed.
And then a fit came and I just didn't love the way the night
ended. I woke up this morning and there
wasn't a as a parent you you'll be like like, I wonder if she
remembers, is she going to say something?
You know, and you want to overcompensate.
I wake up and she's like, dad, look, this new show's coming out

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of your birthday and it was likethe most girly.
It was like, it's like this new Hello Kitty Princess kind of
looking thing on Netflix. And she's just like, come here,
come here and she's just totallyfine.
And I'm like, she's like bipolar, completely forgot
everything. And so they're like, she has no
idea. And I'm like stewing on it.
But anyway, like at the end of the day, if you, if you can do
that and it says you have a highmoral integrity and value for

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yourself, you know, when you have a high level, it's like the
whole self formation thing. We talk about self respect all
the time. And self respect is when you
have such a high level of moral integrity and, and, and
standards for yourself, like when you don't meet those by
throughout the day, it just doesn't feel good, you know?
So I think that's a piece of it.And I'm just these, these are
like to me like the three principles that led to your

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success. But I think it applies to
anybody #2 was having a deep rooted purpose.
It's, it goes beyond just I wantto look good and get in shape.
It's like, OK, I'm moving. I want to be able to provide for
my girlfriend. Dare I say future wife probably
put. It out there?
I'm going to put it out there. I haven't talked to Kyle about
it being totally transparent, but just in case your girl

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listens to this, I'm not puttingout any hints.
Grace is I'm. Speaking into existence right
now, exactly. And so you have this deep rooted
purpose. It's like, OK, well, either one,
I guess I want to make myself proud. 2, I want to land this
job 'cause that's going to help me provide when we move.
And three, if I don't land that job, I'm going to be better at
whatever I do when I'm leaner, when I feel better, when I have

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more energy, because I'm in the fitness space.
Like plain and simple, right? And I would imagine even
training at your gym now, you probably just got better and
better and better and people gravitating more towards you.
And, and that can sound surface level.
It's like, oh, he's, he's a leaner person.
People gravitate towards him. No, he's a more motivated
person, more ambitious person, amore a higher work ethic.
He values himself more like the list goes on.

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When you go through the process to get lean, it's not the six
pack that earns the respect fromothers.
It's what you did to get there, you know, and then the third
thing and I and I, I, I know this just because you were at my
seminar and that's what kind of like kicked us off.
You were triggered a little bit,a little bit pissed.
And I think that people are surprised by this, but this is a
good way to find your, your corevalues and your purpose too.

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Like what kind of pisses you off, you know, And then
sometimes it's what you see around you, what pisses you off
in the world. And then that changes what you
want to see in the world and that changes how you show up.
And other times it's just like that pisses me off and it's
towards me kind of, but I know it's true.
So you can either bitch at the person who said it, me, or you
can change it, you know, And it was when I was like, if you're a

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trainer, you should look like a trainer.
You should. Look like a trainer.
I remember being in the car driving.
I can't remember. It was probably going to the gym
and, and listening to that podcast and just sitting there
going, who the heck does this guy think he is, man?
And, and I'm getting all I mean,I'm dude, I'm getting I'm ticked
off right now. And I had to like sit back and
like Stew on it for a day and itwas still there.
And I'm like, why am I so irritated at this?

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Literally most things fall rightoff my shoulder.
No problem. And I had to sit there and I'm
like, there's definitely truth to this.
That's why it's affecting me so much.
And it's like when you hear that, it's just uncomfortable.
It just makes you uncomfortable.And it's it literally that's
what got me to sign up, you know, first for the the seminar,
which was awesome. And then I hammered on that at

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the. Hammered on it, it was doubled
down. I was like, this guy knows I
listen to this damn podcast. And it worked 'cause then I
signed up immediately after and then got right going with my
coach. Yeah, which was cool too 'cause
that seminar was for people listening.
It was a seminar for coaches. I don't do many seminars for
like Gen. pop to lose weight andstuff like that.
We I have done it plenty of times, but the ones that I host
here usually once a year is for trainers.

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And so it's like I wasn't tryingto sell anybody into coaching
with us. And that's like, truthfully, I
don't even have an upsell at those.
Most people do seminars and thenthere's like a mastermind
afterwards. I just love connecting with
people and using the facility for something other than my
normal, you know. But no, I think it's, this is a
really good 20 minute intro and it's just, I think it's to me,

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like I, I wanted to go over thattoo, just so people, I don't
know it, it's important to me that people know that everybody
on the staff really walks the walk.
You know, it's like that's a really big important core value
of ours. And I think it's so important.
It's so important for people to,when you hire a coach, you
should be able to say they, theylive a life that I want to live

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mine more like they have a physique that's like what I want
to achieve. They have accomplished physical
goals that I want to accomplish.Like, and it can be weird on our
end sometimes 'cause it puts youin like a role model position in
a way. And it's to say people want to
be like me is a weird thing to say, and it can be taken wrong,
you know, But it's if I can create success in an area that I

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know people crave success in, I want to share that.
And that's all it is. It's like, and then we have an
accountability because we set the standard so high with it.
It's like, oh shit, now we have an accountability to stay here,
you know? There's a certain level to that
where you're like, I, I want to lead, while at the same time it,
it's more of it we're relatable.You've been in that position.

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I've been 45 lbs overweight and struggling, not just physically
in that sense, but like mentallyif like just getting it together
and when you figure it out, you wanna share those things.
It's not a gatekeeping thing. I'm like, I want everyone to
feel like this 'cause it's so much better.
And it's not nearly as hard as they think.
Like there's hard things. Don't get me wrong.

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Everybody's had to do them. Like I definitely went through
those. But sometimes before you go
through that process, it's like this mountain, like Mount
Kilimanjaro or something, like Ican never do that.
But until you reach checkpoint one, you don't quite realize,
oh, I'm just going 1 checkpoint at a time.
And it's very helpful when someone who's walked this exact

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same walk, it's like, here's checkpoint 2.
We've got X amount of miles to go.
It's gonna take us half an hour to get there.
This is what we need. Grab your water, grab this.
You're like, OK, this is this isit.
And all of a sudden you're halfway up, 3/4 of the way up
and you're like, OK, that wasn't, I was looking at the
whole mountain. I wasn't looking at it from a
step by step process. And it's just overwhelming.

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You get burnt out. You're just like, Oh my gosh, I
need to take a step back and forget everything in my life
right now for two weeks and I'llget back to it then.
Yeah. You know.
Well, and then it's and then it's after that it's maintaining
it. And guess what?
We, we did that too. I thought about this yesterday
and it was like a good like light bulb moment.
I don't know why I thought aboutthis.
I was doing dishes. I don't remember if I was

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listening to something, but I remember being like, I got to
write that down and then I didn't, but now I remember it.
Maintenance is actually so easy if you just, if you don't think
about the part of having to maintain it afterwards.
Cause the problem with most people is like, if I look to
somebody and I'd just go ahead, you're maintaining the weight
you're at right now, right? Yes, pretty easily, right?

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Yeah. OK, well, you don't have good
habits and it's out of weight that you don't wanna maintain,
right? Yes.
OK, so if we change the habits and then we connect the dots
between the habits, which, yes, it is choosing hard at first
'cause it's difficult. But then once you do it for a
little bit, this is the part people don't understand.
It's hard when you're changing to the habits, but once you have
the habits, they're easy. So it's not like I have to
choose hard to change these habits and then, man, I'm gonna

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have to choose hard every day tomaintain them.
No, no, no, it's not even. They're not difficult anymore,
but I like, I don't track macrosand I maintain my weight so
easily. I weigh myself everyday and it's
so easy for me to maintain my weight because I just know what
habits I have to do. I know around how often I have
to walk and step. I know how many times a week I
should probably train. I know I should probably get a
cardio session or two in. I know I got to sleep in it.

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Like it's just simple. It never has to be perfect, but
it's like maintaining weight canbe easy if you just learn the
habits and you just shift your lifestyle around it the same way
that you accumulated bad habits and that became, you became
accustomed to those. And that's the crazy part is a
lot of people just don't understand how to eat healthy,
you know? They just, I don't know it's and

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I understand that 'cause Once Upon a time I didn't either.
But it's just not that hard, youknow?
But that's what's helpful. You know, we were talking about,
you know, the relatable aspect of, you know, a lot of the
coaches that you hire have gone through their own transformation
cause they've been in those shoes, right?

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And you know how hard it actually is and what that feels
like. So you can, you can tell your
clients this is how hard it's gonna feel, right?
And then you can also pump them up.
You can be their biggest cheerleader and highlight their
wins. And you know, sometimes those
hard moments, you can almost flyby them so fast that almost like
you don't even realize, you know, some of the negatives or

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some of the things that you know, are really, really tough
if you're just literally pumpingthem up and pointing out every
single win to the point where they're like, man, I am killing
it. And you are.
But that scarcity kind of like it's very easy.
You know, it's yeah, and it's it, dude, if you and you can
gauge like you're the, the expectation of your goals, just
need to match your expectation for your habits and your systems

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and everything. And it's cool because like
talking about being relatable and stuff when we do team
meetups, like you can see like Nick is definitely the most
jacked on our team, but you can see his habits are a little bit
more. They're not restricted at all.
It's it's just more dialed in. Like he is just more particular,
you know what I mean? He's a machine.

(24:54):
He's a machine. The dude, the.
Love Machine. The love machine, his last
name's love. It's not some weird shit right
now, but like he, he is more dialed in on a on a consistent
basis because that like, I mean that he loves training and he
wants to be fueled. You know, like he is the guy.
He's the guy that took the Uber,unless he borrowed the rental

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car to get here to the gym and do a leg day at like 5:00 in the
morning before we all showed up to go on a hike, which ended up
being a harder hike than we realized.
And I like spontaneously was like, who's wearing the rucksack
with me? And he's like, OK, I was like,
but but it's cool because it's like, OK, like we all maintain
a, a pretty lean physique year round and we all are very dialed

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in compared to the average person.
We all understand habits and everything.
But there's a level like his expectation for himself is a bit
higher. He's like, OK, like my habits
need to be a little bit tighter,simple as that.
And so for people, it's like, ifyou have that, like you want
your results to be that level, you just got to tighten them up
a little bit more. And you can fluctuate too.
I fluctuate it kind of season toseason depending on what we're

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doing with the business, what I need to be worried about or
anything like that. But it's cool to be able to see
that even with the team, you know.
Yeah, and you bring up Nick, andthat's literally one of my
questions. Here we go.
OK. And this is a huge, like, pump
up to Coach Nick because he's absolutely amazing.
And the first thing is like, thequestion itself is just who is

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inspiring to you right now? It doesn't have to be in
fitness. It can be in brand, it can be in
family, it can be in, you know, anything, right?
But who's inspiring to you? And from my perspective, from
me, it's Coach Nick. Yeah, that's dope.
Right, like literally at the meet up, if you don't know coach
Nick, he is by far the most positive person and not just

(26:43):
positive, like genuinely positive.
It's not fake. You can't fake this.
He is exactly who he is and being able to be around him and
ask him questions and he's just like providing so much like
really valuable feedback for me as a.
Coach it took. My coaching from from one level
and jumped to the next level immediately.
My check insurance the next weekI felt like I was on fire.

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I was like, I am Nick right now.He is inspiring me, you know,
through this and it's just who he is.
So having people around us that are bringing us to the next
level, it's always something I'mlooking for.
Like who is inspiring you right now to get to that next level?
I think it's I mean, and Nick ishe's inspiring for sure.

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I mean, he's doing my training right now.
I mean he's he's really smart with training too, you know, and
so I was like, you know what, like one, it holds me
accountable. I can't let this dude that works
for me be way more jacked than me.
I'm just playing. I can't that guy, he's like tall
jacked like, but he's, he's a really, really good coach.

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And he is, he's so optimistic, so positive, super grateful to
have him on the team. But you know, for me, there's a
couple people that come to mind and there's a really good quote.
I have it on a post. I haven't posted it yet.
And it's weak people envy, strong people study.
And So what happens when you areintimidated, insecure or

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envious, which are the like typically people will see
somebody achieving greatness andthey are either going to be
inspired or they're going to be intimidated or envious.
So you're either going to be scared and walk away, you're
going to be jealous and talk shit, or you're going to be
inspired and you're going to askhow did you do that?
And strong people ask how there's no emotional attachment
to your success. You're successful.
That's awesome. You know, even if I, there's

(28:35):
times where I have to check myself on this, we all do where
I might not like how they did it.
I might not even like the person, but if they're
accomplishing success, there's something to it.
Success leaves templates, you know, So I'm always trying to
study people and and really see,you know what, what they're
doing. One person for sure that's like
close to my life is Cody Smith. Very inspired by that guy, which

(28:58):
is cool because he was a client of mine for multiple years and
then just became a really, really good friend.
I mean, they came on a trip up to Suncadia with us and spent my
birthday. Just couples things like they're
amazing. But from a just like a dude that
like, you know, there's this people where you're watching and
you're like, how do you do all that stuff at the same time?

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He's got three kids, coaches, some of the sports.
His son's like on a high level of football.
So like trainings and camps, allthat stuff, runs a gym and a BJJ
facility, like they're attached.He took over another gym in
Boise and turned it into a virtuous and then he just took
over another one up north on thepeninsula, like a little bit
further than where he's at in Silverdale.

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Took over that one. That's a virtuous.
Now he runs a men's group at hischurch on Sundays.
Like a few weeks ago he was, I was asking about the church.
I was like, I need to make it upthere and get to your men's
group again, 'cause it's been a minute.
So you should come this weekend,man.
I'm playing drums for the church.
I was like, wait, what? Like, yeah, so you play drums?
I was like, yeah, I was in a band.
What He he competed in MMA at like not in the UFC, but like at

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a high amateur pro level and wona bunch of fights.
He was correct. I might butcher this Cody, if
you are listening Air Force or Navy, I think it's Navy.
I think that's how they ended upin Silverdome, Bremerton.
So he was Navy way back. He comedian like CrossFit stuff,
which he's like 676566 doing a snatch bro.
That's so much distance to travel, you know, from the

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ground. So he's just one of those guys.
I'm like, dude, how are you? How are you holding all this
together? And he does it well, you know,
he's just, I don't know, it's very inspiring, especially the
family side of things like his family is very inspiring to me.
His marriage is very inspiring to me.
And to be able to do that while running all the rest, really
cool. A guy who inspires me a lot on
the business side of things is Ollie Marchon, who is from the

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UK. He, the reason he really
inspired me too is 'cause I had seen like the March On logo a
few times, but it actually wasn't until Cody Smith told me
I should check out more of theirstuff because of their branding
and how it's kind of similar to what I'm trying to build.
And then I'm like, man, that is really similar.
Like they have all these, they don't do the online coaching

(31:10):
like we do, but it's like all these gems.
Then they have an app and then they have this like apparel side
of things. They do supplements.
We don't do supplements. They train coaches with this
like off thing. I don't remember.
It's not called March on. I don't know what it's called,
but they train trainers which wementor people and we have
something in the future that is going to crush that side of the
industry. That's like a small teaser,

(31:32):
'cause I haven't talked much about it, but, and it's, it's
just all so cohesive and it's all March on, you know?
So it's like his branding acrosseverything and everybody is very
on brand. And it's, yeah, to me, it's just
like an English version of us with more people because they
have gyms, so they have to have way more employees, you know,
But it's just super inspiring tosee somebody doing that on like,

(31:54):
I don't know, cause a lot of times it's like it's hard to do,
to take like for us, we have tailored and to take tailored
and do multiple things, but we have tailored coaching.
We're building this community. By the time this airs, it's
probably already there. And we have tailored trainer
choose hard as the podcast, which is like an off brand, but
it matches the tailored perfectly.
It's our slogan, right? He has a podcast too, without

(32:16):
limits. It's good.
But that's like their kind of slogan.
It's so it's very similar. This happened actually from us
telling clients to choose hard. And then I just trademarked it,
you know, we're going to be coaching coaches on a
certification level and helping a lot of people like, and it's
all tailored and I love that, you know, it's bigger than me,
it's bigger than us. And so he inspires me a lot from

(32:36):
that perspective for sure. And then I would say Cody from
like the family side of things. And yeah, man, I think that's,
and this, this sounds kind of like corny, but my daughter,
dude, like, I don't know, like being around a child often
enough will inspire you in different ways.
You know, the the amount of times adults get frustrated or

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or hold on to something for too long.
Like you, you get upset about something's normal, you're
human, but then just you hold it.
I just watched that little girl be so upset, walk around the
corner, come back and she's happy again and playing.
And it's like, and I'm like, man, like that alone is, you
know, and I don't know, just thethe kindness of her heart.
Like she that I'll never forget.She did I tell you about the bum
story? I don't think so.

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Oh my gosh, bro, she like, I felt bad for even like telling
them that, that this happened 'cause she was so distraught all
night, 'cause she found out whata bum was.
They didn't have homes and the dog didn't have home.
But there's bums, you know, we live in Washington, they're
everywhere. And the dude, one thing that
pulls on my heart string is whena bum's got a dog.
Oh my God, the dog. Like, I should feel bad for a

(33:43):
human too, of course, but I was pulling into Walmart and I saw
them at the corner. So I was like, all right, I'm
gonna give him some stuff. So I just got like a bunch of
dog food, Gatorade, jerky for the guy and everything.
And like, I just give him his whole bag.
So I like told Shannon and Blakely and she's like, you gave
who a bum? And I like had to explain to her
and she was so sad that they didn't have a home to sleep in

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and the dogs didn't have anywhere to go.
And it was like, man, the, the amount of like genuine kindness
and love in that heart, you know, that's like hard to find
nowadays. And it, and it kind of helps too
in in today's world where you see so much evil, it, it can
kind of just remind you that there is purity.
And it's just like you got to, you got to like hold on to that

(34:27):
and harness it, you know? Bottle it.
You got to bottle that up, you. Do so.
That's so cool. Yeah, she's the answer.
But like my daughter for sure A.100% Oh, actually it's as soon
as I say bottle it up, literallyit's part of the next question.
Wait, actually I'm going to savethis one.
I'm going to save this one. OK, So it's mainly just to bring
up this question. So when I told you I was

(34:48):
listening to the podcast, you know, for years and years and
years, my personal favorite podcast that you guys had ever
done was with Ariel. OK, The Psychology of Fat Loss,
Part 1 and 2. I listen to that podcast.
I don't know how many times, right?
It struck A chord with me so deep that I was like, this is

(35:09):
like, this is my thing. Like, I need to listen to this
more frequently because Ariel's amazing, obviously, duh.
But you guys killed it. But yeah, so basically what I
wanted to know is like, where dopeople and most people, what do
they get wrong about more of themindset, the psychology
surrounding not just fitness, but like, fat loss and
everything, right? Where do they waste most of

(35:29):
their time when it comes to likethat mental energy?
You know when they're getting going with fat loss.
Yeah. Oh, that's a good question.
And that's a really popular episode.
I'll try to remember to link that in the description for you
guys. Fat loss psychology with Ariel's
really good. And I think by the time this
airs, I think my episode I did with her when she was here just

(35:51):
for the meet up last month or whenever that was would have
aired too. And we did one.
It's really good. I think it's called The Dark
Side of Success. She's like just asking me
questions about entrepreneurshipand it's really good.
So I think there's a few things that come to mind.
One, I think that I think a lot of people, this is like where
people get wrong with productivity too.

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They're like, what are like, what are your hacks?
What are your tips for productivity?
And there is no hacks or tips. It's just discipline.
Because if you have the discipline to remove
distractions, you increase your productivity.
Productivity is literally just eliminating distractions, right?
And I think that when it comes to the mindset in psychology
with fat loss, and it can be applied elsewhere, obviously, I
think it's very similar where people get so tied up in

(36:34):
strategy and tactic that they forget to just remove the noise.
And I also think that there's a misconception of really just
what body positivity is. And that's why I love talking to
myself respect so much, because I think the the real key is
changing your perspective and your frame of mind by increasing

(36:57):
your own self respect. Because the the higher self
respect you have, the more love and appreciation you have and
the higher you believe your standard should be for yourself,
the better you treat your body. And the more you realize that I
don't need to be disciplined forthese things.
I need to love myself to do these things.
It's like that that I think I told you about the Charles
Poliquin quote where he's like, there's no, maybe I told you

(37:19):
about it. There's no such thing as
discipline, just love. You either love the version of
yourself that you are and have been, or you love the version of
yourself that you're trying to become more.
If you love the version of yourself you're trying to become
more than you just do what's required to become that person,
right? And so now it takes discipline
to do those things. So I don't agree with him saying
that discipline's not a thing, but it's true in the sense that

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I think a lot of the mindset isn't grit or like that David
Goggins realized that you let's crack it up.
Whoever put that together did really well.
They. Did a great job.
At first I was like, is that a three podcasts?
Shane Giles and Dave Goggin in the same, but no, it's not.
But in that sense, it's like I don't have to grind my teeth and
grit through it. I have to change my perspective

(38:04):
of I'm doing this to show myselflove.
I had a conversation with a client about this yesterday
where she has a rebellious tendency.
And so it's almost like the things that we're trying to do
in order to change her body to get to where she wants to be,
it's almost like rebelling against it.
And it's because most likely there's something in her
history. But like, and I can relate to

(38:25):
this. But like if somebody tells you
this is the thing to do, you know, even though this, and this
is where it's tough, 'cause even, you know, popular with
like motivational interviewing and stuff, I gave options.
This wasn't like you need to do this.
Like we came to this agreement. But as soon as it's a task where
it's on the list, she rebels against it subconsciously.
And part of that is because it, it's, it's this higher level of

(38:48):
commitment to herself, I think. And I think you have to learn
how to love yourself enough to commit to the hard things.
You know, you, this isn't a, a, I'm not rebelling against this
task somebody's telling me to do.
You're rebelling against a task you want to do for a body you
want to achieve and a life you want to live.
And when you change it, the narrative, it, it starts to make
a little bit more sense. So I think a lot of the mindset,

(39:09):
man, to me at least what I've seen in our coaching is getting
people to raise their own standards is 90% of the battle.
It's, it's once we can get them to admit and understand and talk
through the fact that they want more for themselves and they
know they deserve more for themselves, all the work that's
required to get there becomes a lot easier to do.

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You don't need to grit and grindthrough it as much.
And even when you do 'cause you're not super motivated, it's
way easier to do it. And there was actually a study
that I talked about, I think it's in the Self Belief Podcast,
which as we're recording airs onMonday.
It's out by now if you're listening to this.
And I talk about this study thatbasically showed two things.
One, if you have a specific plan, you can automate

(39:53):
discipline, which means that it requires more less discipline
and actual energy to get throughsomething without motivation.
If I have a plan because I feel like I can just rely on the
plan. And then on the other side of
it, they showed that when peopleactually wrote out their moral
core values, which is so crazy, but they wrote out their moral
core values, they showed a higher level of self belief in

(40:17):
any task that they had to jump into.
And all that really is, is deciding at one point, like,
'cause the researchers basicallymade them sit down and go, what
do you stand for? What do you believe in?
And that anchored them to something.
Now they have integrity 'cause it's like I'm this kind of
person, OK, now you got to do this thing, you know, and it's
like, OK, well, I have a higher level of confidence because I
know at the end of the day, the,and they saw this too.

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The reward is less attached to the outcome.
It's more attached to your values.
So if I have a hard work ethic or a discipline or a follow
through, or when I set my mind to something I'm going to get
done, like I'm going to go, go, go, go until I have that feeling
and I know I can put my head on my pillow and say I did well,
not, I lost blank exact pounds, you know, I love that.

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Does that make sense? Absolutely.
This guys me thinking of my own core values.
I'm like the first thing that pops into my mind, generosity.
I think about it with my grandpa, He was the most
generous guy I ever met in my entire life.
I don't want to be just like him.
Like generosity. I'm like man, what am I doing
right now? And be more generous.
Well, that's the thing. And the more you and what they
showed this and This is why I was hoping like write, write
your values down a ton. Look at them because when you do

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and they're at the forefront of your mind now, it's, it's, it's
part of that, that decision making and emotional regulation
part of your brain. And so when you go through
day-to-day tasks and actions, you enter opportunities or
situations and you will questionyourself, am I acting in a
generous way 'cause that's a value of mine, you know, and you

(41:45):
can't get away from it. And if you don't and you walk
away, it pops in your head and you're like, I got to go back.
I got to make that right, you know?
And so, but like it, it's, again, it's, it's so crazy
'cause it's so simple, but it's,it's just that simple, Like, sit
down, write your values, figure out what you stand for.
And if you do that, you are going to make decisions better.
100% plain and simple. One of the things that I tried

(42:07):
to do not too long ago, 'cause I, I would like, live in the
Gray area 'cause I didn't want to like hurt anybody's feelings.
So I, if I knew I probably couldn't, I wouldn't say no.
But then I, I realized it was hurting people 'cause it would
like lead them on. And so I started just saying
like, you know what, I'm a person who makes decisions like
I'm a decision maker. And so it's like, I'm not going
to live in the grey. So it's, it's a yes.

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If it's not a hell yes, it's a hell no.
And it's like, and even in the situations where it is a hell no
and I don't want to be mean, it's like, hey, right now, no
reach back out. Or like, let's do something
later, let's plan something. Or it's like even like planning
stuff with people that I love inmy life.
It's like, I can't, but in two months I can.
And that sounds absolutely insane, but it's like, I would

(42:50):
rather just, I, I would rather somebody be like, that's
annoying. But I respect him 'cause he's
honest than like he's a flake orhe doesn't like who knows with
him, you know? And like nobody's ever said that
to me, but I just, I fear that. And maybe a part of it was like
some, I felt that towards somebody.
At one point I was like, oh shit, I don't want that.
We've all felt that. Yeah, I don't want people to

(43:10):
think that about me. There's.
A zero chance. I want people to think that for
me. All right, let's move on.
Let's do another one here. So, oh, let's go back to the
bottle question. So if you could bottle one
lesson, you know, from your coaching career and hand it
every single day or every day orevery to every new client on day
one, what would it be? And I'll say that again, 'cause

(43:31):
I actually butchered it. You could bottle one lesson from
your coaching career and hand itto every new client on day one.
What would it be? Oh man.
Just one. So I think the the the one that
comes to mind, I think there's afew ways to interpret it, but
it's the same thing. So it's not multiple.

(43:52):
I'm not cheating, just. The whole it depends, you know.
I kind of but it also I think like, you know, you know, when
you're like coaching somebody inperson, like training and like
you'll throw a cue and it just doesn't land and they're not
like they're not sitting into the squat like you want them to.
And you're like, that cue is great, but you just keep
throwing out cues and then one of them.
Just hits a. 100% I'm thinking about it like that.
So one of them is and actually Iwas listening to it was actually

(44:16):
a sermon. I was listening to it this
morning on my ruck and he said he was trying to make a point
about you won't ever achieve success without struggle.
And and then he goes, you can't get what do you, you can't get
swole without getting sore. And everybody in the cars are
like laughing. And I was like, damn it, that's
a good way of looking at it. But like, you can't have the
success without struggle. So I think like part of it is

(44:38):
just that like there's gonna be struggle in success.
And I think that's a big piece of it.
And the other way to interpret this is like literally why I
choose hard as a thing is because I think if you like the
real lesson or thing to try to grab onto is accepting
difficulty 'cause I think there's a difference between
this. The reason we don't say do hard
things is because there's a difference between doing hard

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things and choosing to do hard things.
Choosing is accepting and takingownership of the hard thing and,
and really like stepping into it, leaning into it.
And so I think if you accept thedifficulty, you accept the
struggle in the case of getting swole, you accept the soreness.
Like that lends itself to be more helpful and the frame I try

(45:21):
to like really tell people of, of it's this is always easier
said than done. Everything is.
But at some point in time, number one, you're going to look
back and say, I wouldn't change it for the world.
You know, I've said it a milliontimes to clients and on this
podcast because we always do that.
So if you can just remember, like this sucks.
I'm struggling right now, but eventually I'm going to look

(45:42):
back and be like, I wouldn't change it for the world because
it taught me so much. Just remind yourself, 'cause it
might be easier to accept difficulty and accept the
struggle that is required, a required part of getting those
results, you know, and I think if I could just teach people
that alone, I think that would be the most beneficial thing
because every micro detail, because everybody struggles with

(46:05):
a different aspect of fitness and nutrition.
But no matter what, it's the struggle, no matter what, it's
the difficulty, no matter what, it's accepting that challenge,
that difficulty, that hard thing.
And I think if you can kind of think of what you will think in
the future on the forefront by looking back or looking ahead to
when you would look back, it's like some inception shit and

(46:27):
just say like, I know eventuallyI'll look back and say I
wouldn't change it for the world.
This made me who I am. The struggle provided the
lessons I needed and I accepted the challenge.
I I think you're going to be able to have such an easier time
getting through it. It's going to be a lot simpler.
And also you'll realize, and this is like what my main goal
is with a lot of the coaching, you'll easily be able to see

(46:50):
where it applies to other areas in life.
Because if it was just about getting people ripped, I mean,
dude, like in two weeks, I fly out to LA to see my client
compete. He's competing at the Muscle
Mayhem. And hopefully by the time people
listen to this here, he got his pro card.
He's he's the one that came. He was here a couple weeks ago.

(47:12):
Yeah, the dude is jacked and, and this is the first season
competing. The only reason he's doing the
show is 'cause he was supposed to go to North Dakota like a
couple months ago and he got cancelled.
His flight got cancelled cause nobody flies to Fargo, ND
apparently. So his prep got extended.
It was rough. But like, anyway, I'm flying out
there for that. And look, I love getting people

(47:32):
shredded. It's a blast.
But like he's also got a baby onthe way.
He's married. He is a, an attorney.
He's a small business lawyer, like he's grinding and he loves
developing. He's done multiple Iron Man's
marathons, like the dude's got aice bath.
Like he just wants to push himself in challenge 'cause he

(47:52):
sees growth in other areas of his life.
That's why I love coaching him and why when he was like, maybe
we should do a show, I was like,let's do it.
My client that competed before him, one of them 'cause there's
been a few, but he had Parkinson's.
He's been on the podcast. That was more than just getting
a six pack, you know, And like, and I still coach him and he's
gonna do another show. Next year, Which?
Is. Dude put on some sides too, but

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like, it's always more, you know, it's always more when I
was talking to those people at the football field, it's more
than just weight loss. And I think when you can accept
difficulty, I think when you canaccept that there's struggle
required, I think you really getthat and you start to connect
the dots. And I know we do really well
with this in our coaching for anybody listening, But like we,

(48:37):
we kind of force people to learnthe lesson because we want to
point it out. Like, where is this applying
over and over and over again? Because once they start making
those connections, the weight loss thing becomes easy because
they're like, oh shit, I'm a better dad or I'm a better mom,
or I'm working better at my job or I'm making more money or I
appreciate more things in life. Like how can I be negative when
Nick's in my DML? Dude, this is.
What I say, dude, every single time it pops up, check

(48:59):
insurance. Every single week there's
challenges down on yourself likeit's it's, it's normal.
It's normal. It happens a lot.
But being able to kind of point out similarities and so many
other things. I think back I played baseball
growing up, went to college, played baseball.
The first thing they'll tell you, especially in Little
League, is that you're going to fail.
At least the Hall of Famers are failing 7 out of 10 times.

(49:21):
Yeah, that's crazy. Right.
And you're as a kid, you're justlike, whatever, right?
But you start to get it as you're growing up and you're
like, OK, no, this is a game of failure.
And it is a game of relentless practice.
It is the only way to really lose that game is to stop
showing up. And it and it applies directly
to a lot of areas of life, but especially with nutrition and
fitness, you know, it is the more repetitions you put in, the

(49:43):
more reflection you do, the moreyou to learn and grow, the the
easier that skill is grown. And all of a sudden you're
there. You don't even realize you're
there, but you're there. And we can all be frustrated and
we can all show patience. We can all be in those periods
of times where it feels like life is crazy or man, I'm just
like running, you know, downhill.
This is amazing. But it's it's that like over a

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span of time and go throughout that whole entire process, can I
keep on producing reps Rep afterRep after Rep?
It's not even the outcome that matters at that point.
It is can I show up and play thegame.
If I can do that, the rest takescare of itself.
So true and it's so true and it's that reflection piece that
allows you to see where else in your life you're growing and
getting better. You know it just that part is

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just to me that is so important.So like, I guess to answer the
question exactly, it would be topoint that out, it'd be to get
them to understand that right away, 'cause sometimes it takes
time. You know, it takes like there's
perfect example is like the first time a client goes on like
a trip or something or try and diet and they screw it up.
Not everybody screws it up, but most people do.

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It's like, you know, even if youdidn't really screwed up, you
think you did 'cause you're likeupset yourself.
And then that conversation afterwards is always like
awesome, you got it out of the way.
And they're like what? And it's like, how are you
supposed to learn how to do it right if you don't screw it up
once? Like if you don't go on vacation
and kind of fall off your diet and, and realize that tracking's
kind of impossible. So I kind of have to figure out

(51:12):
this like, mindset thing, unlessI'm travelling for work and then
maybe tracking's possible. And like, I can't weigh in every
day, 'cause I'm in a hotel. Like whatever.
At first you're like anxious, 'cause like I'm so dialed in.
I'm doing all these things now. I can't, it's taken away from
me. OK, You can't control it.
So it's easier said than done, but don't worry about what you
can't control. What could you have done better?
Cool. Let's do that next time.

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Yeah, move on. Simple, you know.
But you gotta fail. You gotta fail.
You gotta fail. It's part of it.
All right, let's do this one, let's change it up to a little
bit of training, OK, Obviously we both trained for a long, very
or a very long time, been in thegym for a long time.
OK, Do you believe everyone has a gear that they haven't tapped
into yet in the gym? And if so, how are you helping

(51:55):
them find it right? Cuz personally this is like an
every single day thing with clients and it's sometimes it's
the same person where they reacha new level that they didn't
realize that was a thing. They're laying on the ground
huffing and puffing. I'm like, we just did some
lunges and they're like just kill me now please.
I like how do you help people, especially in the online realm,

(52:18):
be able to find that place and get to that next level, get to
that next gear when maybe this isn't like their their first.
They haven't been lifting weights for 15 years.
They're new. Like how do you do that?
I think that it's there's a few strategies.
I think it's more tactical thingbecause I think obviously you
have to create proof that the person can train harder because

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everybody does have that next level, they have that next gear.
Your mind quits before your bodyevery single time, but until
it's like the failure thing, until you see that your mind
quits before your body, you're never going to be able to push
your body further beyond your mind.
You know, So it's funny because I was just talking to Travis
about this yesterday, Travis Bolton who came in to shoot

(53:02):
content and I did a set and I was like, man, it's, it's always
crazy how much harder the sets are when the camera's on.
And he like laughed and he was like, why?
I'm like, 'cause my form is perfect.
I go a little bit heavier, you know, like I push myself and I
get all the reps done. So you're like, oh shit, I can
do more next time. So for me, it's easy to go to

(53:24):
that next level because I can remember, like today I'm going
to go to the gym. I'm going to remember yesterday
I had a little bit more in me and I pushed through it.
So I know I can now too, you know.
So I think there's a few ways, like strategically to do this
'cause everybody is the same, weall can go push further.
The first way is to film yourself, whether you're doing
content or not, if you have a coach, it's good to film

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yourself for your coach at leasta little bit.
You know, one, get your form right, but two, if your form's
on point, I think you should still film some of the exercise.
Maybe you don't love as much so that they can call you out
because it's helpful for a coachto be like, you got a couple
more in the tank. And a lot of times once you film
it, you know, because you see it.
So even if you don't send it to a coach, if you don't have a
coach, film yourself and just look at it and be like, tell me

(54:08):
you don't, you know, because I can.
I remember doing APR squat attempt and I did the squat and
I literally walking towards the camera said that was a zero RAR.
I'm done. Like I have nothing in me.
And I watched it and it was likesmooth as butter.
I was like, damn, I had a couplemore because, but, but like that
much weight on my back freaked out my mind, you know, And so

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and look, I'm not telling anybody go do PRS with that, but
do a, a freaking, I don't know, like a gobble squat, a cycle
squat, a leg press with like safety pins, you know, anything
push ups. Yeah, something that is safe to
go to failure. But like film yourself first.
That's step one. Because I think when you film
yourself, you'll be able to expose your, yourself not taken

(54:49):
all the way to yourself. I think doing a like a there's
an RIR strategy I will use. So for people listening, RIR
stands for reps in reserve. It's like a scale of effort.
And So what I'll do with people is I'll look at their their
training log and I'll see, OK, they did that exercise with 25
lbs for 10 reps next week. It says as many reps as possible

(55:12):
with 25 lbs. And then they do 20 reps.
And it's just a way for me to prove to them like, see, I know
you could do more and there's certain exercise you could tell,
right? Like somebody's doing, like I
can look at one day and see a dumbbell press with 20 fives.
And then I see they're doing a row with 20 fives around the
same weight. I'm like, you can row more than
you can press. 99% of people came, so I'll like do that
intentionally and sometimes doing it with the Roe will help

(55:33):
their squat because it's just the, it's just the like,
literally the thought process. It's just understanding this
rule of thumb of like, oh, I cango heavier than I realized, you
know, And for some people it's like they'll, I have a ton of
clients who will say my grip's limiting like, and I know I
shouldn't wear straps because I,I, I should be building my grip
strength and I'm like, no, wear straps, wear gloves, glue your

(55:56):
hand to it. I don't care like we're not here
to build massive forearms and they will get stronger even with
straps like but you're not goingto hold your back back or your
legs, your glutes your with because your grip, you know it's
stupid. So use whatever you got to do.
But I think that strategy of of going to failure with a similar
weight teaches you that. So filming yourself doing that

(56:17):
helps a lot as well. And then honestly, like even
just training around people, like if you have a spot or
nearby or anything like that, that helps.
I mean, you probably see it likeon Mondays, you know, when
you're here lifting with me and stuff, when there's people
around you just lift harder, lift heavier.
You know, there's, I mean, there's, you can even look in
the research too. There's music plays a role.
So play music that is going to push you and challenge you.

(56:39):
There's even research that showsyou will match your playlist to
your emotions, which sometimes is not good.
You should do the opposite. So like if you're sad, you'll
probably play sad music, which makes sense, but it makes you
more sad and it's just like thisnever ending cycle.
So when you're sad, play this shit.
You don't feel like listening toyou right now because it'll help
you. So maybe in the gym, if you're
not in the mood, you got to likeput on some metal.
Even though you don't want to listen to it, do it Like it has

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an impact. It's really weird.
But so I think like just your training environment, I think
filming yourself is a huge one and then you going to fail your
unsafe exercises. Honestly, quite often like it
just there's a lot of times where I'm just like, OK, if it's
10 plus reps and it's saved exercise, just go to failure
like and then if you especially if you don't know what weight to

(57:22):
lift. So when people are like, how
much weight should I use for this?
I don't know yet. I haven't seen you do it.
So grab a weight that you know you can confidently do go to
absolute failure. It's a lateral raise.
You'll be fine. It'll be fun.
And then you'll be able to gaugewhat you should actually be
doing. So I think in general, to me,
like the best way is to just probably just go to failure and
find safe ways to do it and filmyourself doing hard sets so you

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can really know. Because there's times too where
like if you're doing a bench press, you shouldn't just go to
absolute failure. But if you film yourself doing
A5 Rep bench press and you see that you had a couple more in
the tank, that's going to give you the confidence you need.
Because proof is what creates belief, right?
And so you either have proof of something good that shows you
did it, or you have proof that you could have done more.

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Either way, you're gonna gain the self belief to add some
weight, right? 100% and the amount of times
that even in the gym, right, I've pulled out my phone.
I'm like this one's for Instagram people's form.
I've never seen it more perfect.I can't use it too much because
then there's, you know, it doesn't really mean anything,
right? And whether it goes on Instagram
or not is completely up to them.But like they know, Oh my gosh,

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the phone's out here. It comes.
And it's like I've never seen a more perfect squat in my entire
life. And where has that been this
whole time? But it's that pressure that
comes in. It's like, you know, they're
doing chin UPS now. You haven't even done a chin up
before. You just got your first one
because I pulled my phone out. Like, Dang, this is insane.
That's like the mind is crazy. One thing to think about too.
This is completely theoretical, so nobody quote me on this, but

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I think, I mean you can tell me,I think this would be kind of
true. If you are consistently training
at like 80% of your effort, you're going to get results.
But if you train with 100% of your effort, you're going to get
the same results in 80% of the time, which means that you'll
save 20% time, right? So if it takes you 6 months to
get to a goal, you'll probably get there in five months if you

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were training at 100% effort every time.
And I don't mean effort as in maxing out all the time.
I mean you're actually being very intentional.
Like when I'm doing a chin up isI'm, I'm really focusing on all
my fingers gripping the bar. Am I pulling my shoulders down
and depressing? Am I doing a full range of
motion? Am I letting my lats stretch at
the bottom? Am I avoiding the swing?
You know, like these little things, they do take a lot of

(59:32):
mental effort. But like if you put 100% effort
in your training, you will get to the result faster.
And so to me, I'm like, the easiest way for me to explain to
people too is like, hey, do you want to get to the result sooner
or later? It's always sooner.
We all want to get the result faster, obviously.
Well, I want to get you there faster.
So if you just do this now, you'll get there sooner.

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Yeah, it's learning how to be present in the gym because every
single time, I mean, I'm there alot in between sets, people are
on their phone scrolling, not really paying attention.
They're not really being presentand training hard.
You can look around the gym, youcan know immediately who is
training hard and who's just kind of going through the
motions. Yep.
Even just by their resting, they're sitting there just, Oh

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my gosh. They're.
Trying to get their life together because Oh my God, I'm
literally just like, let me dropto a knee, catch my breath.
You're like that. That Lady right there, Bad ass.
Yeah, well, in that, that rest period is actually a really good
way to tell too. If I, if I just ask how long,
like if I'm thinking somebody's not training hard enough, hey, I
want you to time your rest sets like, or either A, I'm not going

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to plug them in, time them so I can see how long you're resting
or B, follow the exact time thatI put in there.
And then either one or two things, they're going to come
back and I'm going to see they're timing themselves in a
super quick or they're going to say, I didn't want to wait that
long before my next set. I'm like, that's because you're
not training hard enough. That's an easy way to tell if
you're doing like A, a leg press, a deadlift, anything like
that. And you're not taking 3 minutes

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between sets, maybe four or five, depending on how much
you're lifting. You're not training hard enough.
Plain simple. If you can talk while doing a
set, you're not training hard enough.
If your last Rep is as fast as your first Rep, the speed and
the cadence like of you pressingthe weight, you're not training
hard enough because your last Rep should be significantly
slower than your first Rep. In fact, that's a scientific way

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to test your RAR is to have a decrease in your velocity so
that the speed at which you are able to perform the concentric
lift, the positive. That should drop quite a bit,
probably by about 50% on your last Rep realistically, because
that's really hard and you mighteven have one more grinder in
you, but that's where it's like,OK, you're RAR one stop.
It's safe here, but it's effective.

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So I think like there's all these little things that we can
say like you're doing that you're actually hard enough, you
know, and the rest period is is a big one.
And I see that a lot for women, they shorten rest periods up
which women can take shorter rest periods, partially because
they lift lighter on average andpartially because in this
interesting, they have a higher estrogen dominance, which

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improves their cardiovascular health.
So typically they recover between sets faster too, which
is actually pretty interesting. So they can handle more volume.
There was like 1 good volume study on women cause most
studies are on men for muscle. And it was really cool and
interesting because of that. Like they can handle a lot of
volume because they're able to recover so quickly between sets.
I feel like chances are they'd be able to handle a lot of pain

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too. Absolutely.
Yep. You know.
It's just how we were designed, you know.
But I think, I think in general too, like it's, if you don't,
this goes back to the journalingthing.
I think reflection's so, so goodfor everybody in every
situation, 'cause it's like, if I ask you, you know, do you
think you're training hard enough?
You don't know? And then I'm like, how long do

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you take between sets? I don't know, Like what do you,
what are you thinking between sets?
Do you text between sets? Are you calling anybody?
Do you have like, like how long does it take you to the gym?
If the answers aren't specific, you, you don't recall, which
means you're not tracking and you're not reflecting.
So like right when you get done in the gym next time, just
reflect on the session. How hard do you feel like you,
you went, do you feel like you're sweating?

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You're, you're lit up, you're onfire.
You're, you're like your core temperature's up.
You know, all these little indicators, if you're training
hard enough, because if, if I ask you a week later, you're
gonna be like, I don't remember,you know, But if you ask
yourself right afterwards, there's all these little things
that literally tell you, yes, I am training hard enough to get
great results rather quickly. You got to reflect right after
the session. Otherwise, you're not going to.

(01:03:24):
Know OK, right on that reflection part OK, this is
something more from like my own coaching that I'm just curious
about right. You're talking about journaling
and specifically for me, it's like men journaling.
I got into journaling one through coaching, but two you
hear about it frequently enough and I needed prompts.
I needed things, but I was terrible at it in the beginning.

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You sitting there saying what amI grateful for?
I'm grateful for the the house over my head.
I'm grateful for the I'm grateful for the food.
You just, you feel like a, a dunce, just like stumbling
around. Then day after day after day, I
get a little better. How are you bringing that up to,
to especially men, right, That might not be as receptive to
journaling in the beginning because they're like journaling

(01:04:07):
for chicks. That ain't for me, You know,
like, where do you start that conversation with them?
Because personally, I feel like there is so much growth to be
had from journaling in so many different aspects, not just, you
know, physically, Oh, I can lower, but like emotionally in
their relationship in every areaof life.
Like where do you start with? Yeah, I I can think of a literal

(01:04:29):
exact conversation with a clientthat was a guy that was like, I
don't do that. I wasn't raised that way.
Men don't journal. It's like a diary.
Feelings. No.
It's for girls. And I literally my response was
actually I was like, so my girl.And then he was like, well, no,
what do you mean? This one?
I'm like, I journal every day. It was just kind of like, oh
shit, I don't want to be mean tohim, you know?
So he stopped. But anyway, I think that

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there's, you know, there's a lotof different ways to journal and
I think one, that's why I like the journals we have because it
does lower the barrier of entry because people first go, I don't
know what to journal. Cool.
You don't have to worry about it.
Just do what the book says the prompts are for you.
So that's like the first and easiest and obviously most

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effective way to dive into it. Like the lower, lower the
barrier, which is just give themprompts.
You know 2 is showing research and so there's a lot of research
on on journaling and so showing guys research sometimes like I
don't like in people get weird about this kind of stuff today,
but the end of the day, like menare different than women, right

(01:05:33):
And there are certain things that men do and think in the way
they operate is just different and one of them is they're
logical creatures. Women are more emotional
creatures for good reasons. Women are way better nurturers.
They're also way better at they have a fast track of emotional
intelligence and actually reading somebody's intentions,

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integrity, which is why I'm like, oh, everybody wants to be
good and I can trust anybody like a big dummy.
And then he's just like, come on.
That's why I rely on women to help me with that.
But anyway, because men are logical creatures, going to the
science is helpful sometimes 'cause it's like they are, it's
easier for them to change their opinion and their world view on

(01:06:16):
something. If they're so like, if they're
like journaling's for women, I don't do that shit.
They're more likely to shift their opinion because they're
logical if you just show them the facts.
Because it's, it's very unemotional on my end too.
It's like, hey, I thought the same thing.
But like, this is what the research says and I'm not the
researcher. And it's like, OK, well, this is
not me arguing you. This is just me going now the

(01:06:38):
sky is blue and this is what they like.
Look at this picture and they'relike, oh shit, OK, yeah, you're
right. You know it.
It's that simple. So showing them research is
helpful and there's so much research to show it lowers
depression, lowers anxiety, lowers overwhelming stress, it
it helps productivity. So people, there's association.
So it's correlative research, but still correlations with
people who journal in success because obviously when they

(01:06:58):
journal, they're usually reflecting, learning and then
growing faster and they're planning their day.
Usually it's part of what you doin a journal.
So it's going to make them more organized.
There's the studies on discipline being automated if
you have a plan. So if you write out your plan
for the day, you're more likely to do it without requiring so
much discipline, which saves your mental energy.
And then there's higher levels of self belief and confidence

(01:07:20):
when you journal because most likely you're you're journaling
affirmations in core value basedstuff like I talked about.
But I just point out the research and it's like, man, we
can't get away from it. It's right here.
And so really to me, it's like challenging why they think that
because nobody has a really goodreason.
It's an opinion based on probably most.
Like even the guy I was talking about, like it was, it was

(01:07:42):
something that he took from his older brothers and dad way back
in the day. So they thought and said
something and then it's like, OK, no disrespect, but do you
want to be like them? Do you aspire to be like them?
Do they live a life and have a body and have a family, have a
career or anything like that that you aspire to accomplish?
And if the answer is a yes, absolutely, then don't follow

(01:08:04):
their lead. Success leaves templates, you
know, And most likely the peoplethat have success across those
all those areas, whether they journal or not, they wouldn't
hate on it. That's just not the type of
person that has success, right? So I think you should be looking
for, and this is what actually got me to start journaling and
meditating, is I started lookingat different successful people
that I was inspired by that wererole models.

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I didn't know Tony Robbins, Rob Dyrdek at the time, people like
that. And I saw that they're all
meditating. And I was like, I thought it was
like some hippie weird thing andI just didn't want to meditate.
And I'm, I'm, it's hard for me to slow down as is.
But I think I remember Rob Dyrdek when I started kind of
studying what he did, that was the first, that was the person
that really got me over the edgewith a lot of the personal

(01:08:46):
development stuff, 'cause I saw what he was doing and there's so
many successful rich people doing it.
I'm like, these people are wealthy, successful, they're
impacted people and they actually look happy.
They're not like rich and miserable.
So maybe I should take a hint, you know?
And so showing proof, showing science and like challenging
their narrative, I think is a really just the easiest way to

(01:09:07):
accomplish it. And then if they need help, you
know, show them like, what am I grateful for?
Like, it's easy pick out of three things.
Pick one small thing that is like you're just stopping to
smell the roses. Like, thank God I got a roof
over my head. Pick an abnormal thing, a big
thing, a, a person, your wife, your spouse, your kid, somebody
else. And then I always tell people,
and this is a weird one for mostpeople, pick yourself.

(01:09:27):
Like, you know, if I sat there and was like, I'm grateful that
I have had the tenacity to just keep on going over the years and
accomplished what I've accomplished and never said no,
never back down, never quit. Like I'm literally fueling
myself because what you appreciate elevates.
So appreciating everybody else is great.

(01:09:49):
But if you don't stop to appreciate yourself, how do you
elevate yourself? Right?
So I, I love doing like a littlesmall thing, big thing, and then
something about yourself typically like what I literally
do in my journal is I thank God for all the small things.
And then I thank somebody close to me and then I, I'm thankful
for something about me. And that has always been, and I
took that from Doctor Caroline Leaf, who is AI think she's a

(01:10:10):
neuroscientist and a psychologist.
She's a unbelievable human being.
I had her 100 episodes ago, probably like so great.
But more than that, it was during COVID when I had her on,
which was an interesting time totalk to her.
But doing that is super helpful.I think the affirmations is
super helpful too. I am blank.
I will blank. You know what will make today

(01:10:32):
great? You're speaking like the whole
speak into existence thing isn'tas simple as you say it.
And you'll be it. But, and this is her too, 'cause
I asked her this, when you speaksomething into existence, you're
changing your subconscious behavior and actions.
So you will align your attitude,your actions and your behaviors
subconsciously with what you consciously spoke into the

(01:10:53):
universe. So if I'm sitting here saying I
am a blank I, I remember writingI am a great father every day
for like 9 months, however long pregnancy is.
I can't remember off talking, but like long time, you know, I
was just over and over and over again because I was kind of
nervous about that, but I wantedto be like that.
This I need to get into my like I will be, I will be, I will be,

(01:11:14):
and then I am blank and I will what I will work hard to blank.
You know, it's you're speaking things into your attitude, your
actions and behaviors throughoutthe day and you stack those days
over of course time. I mean, it's like you said, at
first journaling, it's kind of hard, but once you just keep
doing it. Immediately it makes me think
like you're talking about I am great father.
You weren't even a father at that point in time.

(01:11:36):
How many of us are like those affirmations speaking something
that we want to happen right into existence and it feels
cringy at first cuz it's disingenuous.
I have not done that yet. There is no proof there, but I
have to say it anyways. My coach is telling me I should
do this, I know I should. I want to be that.
And you kind of have to put in the reps This is another point

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of failure where it's like, it might feel like failure right
now because you haven't done it,but you're actively working
towards it. I, I want to be disciplined.
That's a huge one for a lot of people.
Until we put ourselves in positions to challenge
discipline, how do you even knowthat you're going to fail
sometimes, right? Hall of Fame numbers failing 7

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times out of 10. They're sitting there with a
plaque in Cooperstown, right? Like, you got to go through
those reps and you got to be willing to have those
uncomfortable conversations and write them down for yourself,
not just for your coach, not just for your other people
around you. It's like it's you.
You're the one that's internalizing everything.
And you got to have those hard conversations.
You can't just, like, sweep it under the rug and say, oh, yeah,

(01:12:38):
I should have done this. I'll do better next time.
That's what journaling's. For well, and that's like when
you, when you put I will you're,you're creating a declaration.
It's an IM statement. And I mean, this is like
everybody has imposter syndrome because of this exact thing.
But the reality is if you don't have any imposter syndrome, it
means you're not pushing your boundaries.
The only reason you have imposter syndrome is because

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you're stepping into a new territory, you know, and you got
to become more. The only reason you got to
become more is if you're pushingand you're trying to challenge
yourself and grow. You know what I mean?
But there was another good research study on they did it in
kids, but it was, it was external affirmation.
So the teachers saying to the kid, the researchers and stuff
like that. Basically, when they all got,

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they took all the kids that got good grades and they took half
of them and said, you're so smart, well done.
And then they told them you workso hard.
Well done. Split into two.
The group that was told they're so smart started declining in
grades. The group that kept getting
affirmed that they worked so hard, kept increasing their
grades and continued to have good grades because it
associated with work ethic, which is a moral integrity.

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It's a it's a value that you have and standard you have for
yourself. Being so smart can be pawned off
as like a genetic a gift. It is what it is.
I'm just, you know what I mean? Like I just have it.
I am it. I don't, I don't know.
But when I say you worked so hard, you know exactly why You
got good grades. Yeah, you're probably smart too,
but you're only smart because you worked hard, you know?
And So what you repeat and what your environment repeats to you,

(01:14:02):
which is a hard one for people 'cause sometimes you got to got
to cut things or people out of your life or call them out if
they're being negative. It does a lot, a lot for your
your, your mindset and your belief.
I remember that podcast, listening to that podcast and
having that like snap fingers, like, Oh my gosh, how does this
make so much sense that I've never thought about it that way?

(01:14:23):
It took a long time for me to realize that even just in the
gym, you know, coaching clients,oh, you know, you're giving them
advice or you're giving them, you know, their kudos and you're
just like, yeah, you worked really hard on that set.
You pushed yourself to the limiton that set, right?
You showed up when you didn't want to.
Like you're giving those, them, them those reminders of like,
this is what matters. It's not, oh man, I I hit Apri

(01:14:44):
did this. It's like, no, on the on the
really, truly hard stuff, you showed up and you put an effort.
The only thing that matters is that effort, because that effort
can be completely different. Tomorrow you get into a car
crash, you can't do squats anymore.
Well, what happens when you're not that person?
Yeah, you still have effort. I can do something, right.
It's coming back to. That yeah, and and parents you
got to teach this young, you know, I like the the whole like,

(01:15:08):
I don't even know if they do anymore that's like the trophies
for everybody kind of thing, youknow not.
Participation trophies. Yeah, I don't think they do it
anymore, thankfully, because it's not, it's and this is not
like a this is not just an opinion, this is just a fact.
Like doing that sets kids up forthe opposite of what we're
talking about right now, becauseit shows that you will get a

(01:15:30):
trouble even if you don't work hard.
But then they go get a job and then they get fired 'cause you
don't keep a job if you don't work hard.
You know what I mean? Like, it's just you don't keep a
wife or a husband if you don't show up and treat him well.
Like it's just plain and simple,like you.
So you can't do that to kids. But like, the reason this kind
of pops up my head is I remembermy daughter doesn't play soccer

(01:15:50):
anymore. She only did it for one year.
She didn't like it very much, but she was really young.
And so they picked somebody and everybody got a trophy.
Like one kid got a trophy on a team every game and or like a
little medal or something. And it was not because of goals
or anything like that, because half the time they scored the
wrong goal and shit. Like, it's not, you know, they
were like 5. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But like it was a trophy or award for like teamwork or

(01:16:16):
kindness or whatever it is. They saw something on the field,
you know, patience and they would decide this is what it is,
which is cool. And that's a value based award.
So it's awesome. But like, I remember my daughter
being kind of like, sad after a couple games, not winning
anything. And like, her response was so
great. It like, 'cause I was like, oh,
like, you're right. And she said like, I'm mad I
didn't win. And I was like, yeah, like, I

(01:16:37):
get it. She was like, it's OK, I'll try
hard next time. And I was like, yeah, exactly.
And that's all you can do. And honestly, part of the reason
why she didn't get award is because she was she wasn't
trying hard. She didn't want to go out there.
She was embarrassed. She like at one point she had to
like hold the ref's hand. And then I ref the game, which
is basically like you're just running around with kids and she
was trying to hold my hand. I was like, you can't hold my

(01:16:57):
hand. Like, but like you got to go out
there and try hard. You're not going to get a
trophy. Absolutely.
You know, she never got one. You're.
Probably sitting there going. Yep exactly.
And then she got she's gotten multiple awards at school.
It's actually cool. She's been awarded kindergarten
and 1st grade in front of the whole squad assemblies and
stuff. No way for like, you know, one

(01:17:18):
was, oh God, what was it? I think 1 was the respect award.
It was like recognizing for a trait and like, one kid in each
class got it. It was dope.
It was really dope. Yeah.
So like but like, that stuff is so valuable.
Yeah. You know.
I love that. So I got one more question.
This one's completely off topic from everything else we've been

(01:17:39):
doing, but I've just been super into fiction, fiction books
lately. I mean, I've been talking to you
as, as we're training and whatnot.
I, I, you know, during my, my process of like, you know, fat
loss transformation, I was goingthrough Lord of the Rings.
Great. While you're doing cardio, by
the way, keeps you very interested, that's for sure.
But I went through Lord of the Rings and then I went through
the Andy Weir books, specifically the Hail Mary

(01:18:01):
project. If you haven't read or listened
to that, so good. And then now I'm working my way
through Game of Thrones. But do you have a favorite
fiction series, fiction book, something you like to read to
Blakely? Like do you have anything?
So I I haven't been reading fiction much just because
honestly I just working a lot. I didn't know what I'm reading

(01:18:24):
is usually it's very specific towhat I know I need to work on
right now. But I'm always reading something
and I have read like one of my favorite series in the past was
Wayward Pines. I read, I read quite a few
fictions. At one point when I was really
trying to learn copywriting, I started reading a lot of fiction

(01:18:44):
books. Because if you want to learn how
to story tell, I mean, pick up Harry Potter.
Like this person made-up a wholecivilization, powers a language
for Lord of the Rings, especially like a different
literature. Orvin Elvin like yeah that's
wild, you know, and I haven't actually read through all the
Lord of the Rings books, but I've seen the movies like 8

(01:19:06):
times. Huge fan.
But Wayward Pines is probably myfavorite book to read,
especially because there wasn't even TV series at the time.
There is ATV series now and it was good, but it doesn't do it
justice. But that was a book that like
really pulled me. There's three books and it's
like a post apocalyptal kind of thing.
Like basically he basically likehe, it's kind of like he doesn't

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literally just like pass out in a hyperbolic chamber, but in a
way like they have like a amountof them.
And then he wakes up in this place, doesn't know where he's
at and he's like trying to figure it out, but it's very
quiet. Nobody's talking.
It's and it's like this like white pick a fence, perfect
place and like you're trying to figure out what the fuck's going
on while reading it. And then you find out that
they're like in this like place that this guy built and can't

(01:19:47):
get out. And it's because it's thousands
of years in the future and anybody who was left on earth
was is like now like Walking Dead, but like not zombie slow
like like they're like, they'll mess you up.
I'm. Definitely gonna check this out
'cause it sounds exactly like the same start to Project Hail
Mary 'cause he wakes up, he's inspace, literally can't like open
his eyes, blink, speak, everything's like coming back

(01:20:10):
very slowly. And the, you know, the story
goes on and it's basically like he's an astronaut.
Earth is like technically dying to an extent, not giving any
spoilers, but like he has to be the one to solve what's going on
and might have some interaction with, you know, you know, alien
beings and things like that. It's really cool.
Oh yeah, you'll like this one then.

(01:20:30):
Yeah, it's good. That's definitely been one of my
favourites as far as right now, like I'm always reading stuff
with Blakely. She's she loves, Yeah.
She's into like fairies and stuff.
So like, like I read a chapter book with her recently that was
like, God, what was it? Some some fairy, kind of.
Do they still? Read Junie B Jones I feel like
my sisters were I don't even know immensely into Junie B.

(01:20:50):
Jones right now she's got, it's like there's a ton of these
different fairy books, so we've read a couple already and so
she's got a couple of those and then she's actually, it's
actually really cool. So she has really kind of pushed
me to memorize stories from the Bible as much as I can because

(01:21:11):
she wants to know And so she'll ask me and it's lights off time,
like she needs to go to bed. So I'm sitting in there with her
and then she wants me to tell her story.
So I have to like recite it and like after like the third time
telling the story I love the most.
That is like really powerful to me, sort of Joseph.
She was like, I was like, I got to learn some more stories.
So dude, I've, I mean, I've toldher the story of Mary and Joseph

(01:21:32):
and then Joseph and his brothers, different Joseph,
Samuel, King Saul, Joshua, like I've just gone through so many.
And so it's like like last nighteven she was like, did you learn
a new one? And I was like, I haven't
finished a new one yet. Because it's like you got to
really like, once you start to recite it, you're like, wait,

(01:21:52):
what was it we did what, what was it like?
And you can't really think aboutit, you know?
Writing it on your hand, you're like, OK, I got to.
Be able to see this. So like and, and so, and if it's
too quick, she's like, that was short.
And it's like, OK, I mean, like it is kind of short when you're
reading it. It's not it's long.
But like when you just say the, the premise of like this is this
is what happened. It's kind of short.
So I've been reading a lot and then like listening to people

(01:22:17):
tell the stories so I can like try to memorize them, which has
been fun. But otherwise, I mean, like the
Bible is just a normal thing. I read every day basically.
But other than that, man, I'm reading like just either AI have
a podcast guest coming on soon and I'm trying to fly through
their book or I have like, I'm not going to say his name
because he hasn't agreed yet, but somebody I want on the
podcast, I'm trying to read his book says yes, then I have some

(01:22:39):
knowledge and it's just a good book.
And then just business stuff, you know?
But dude, check out Wayward Pines.
I'm definitely going to. You'll like that.
Yeah. All right.
Well, that's a wrap for this oneguys.
I'm going to link Kyle's podcast, the Taylor coaching
podcast, Taylor Transformation podcast.
I will link his Instagram so youcan give him a follow.

(01:23:01):
One of our coaches I will also link, I think it was the the fat
loss psychology that we talked about.
I'm going to link all that stuffthat we talked about in the
description of this podcast as well as everything we have to
offer just in case because we got a bunch in the pipeline and
I don't know when this airs as I'm recording it, but we got
some good stuff coming. So I'll link everything there.
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