December 6, 2025 • 31 mins
Content creator, beauty enthusiast, and multihyphenate creative Elise Osafo (@eltheegg) joins Deborah Joy Winans Williams for her first-ever podcast interview — and it’s overflowing with joy, wisdom, and creative inspiration.
Elise opens up about growing up in a Ghanaian household rooted in education, earning her law degree, and still choosing to follow her passion for creativity, beauty, travel, food, and storytelling. She shares how skating, music, curiosity, and her “Why Not?” philosophy help her stay grounded and joyful while building a loyal online community.
This conversation is for anyone who’s ready to try something new, reclaim their creativity, or simply find more joy in the everyday moments that make life beautiful.
💜 “Make yourself the through line of your content — people come back because of YOU.”
💜 “Life is too short not to have fun. Why not?”
If you’re craving inspiration, joy, and permission to show up fully as yourself, you will love this episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, it is Deborah Joy Winen's Williams here, and thank
you so much for tuning into choosing Joy.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Today. I get to sit with.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Someone who I would say is equal beauty and brains. Yes,
they go together, honey, they are going together with you.
They go together real hard.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh, thank you. Someone who is.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Incredibly intelligent, incredibly smart, but also is somewhat joy personified.
I feel like she walks with a smile because she
is doing the thing that she loves. And a lot
of times it takes discipline and courage to step out
there and step away from something that maybe feels very
(00:47):
sure and to sort of jump into or rather dive
face forward into something that is unpredictable, but it's the
thing that you love. Who gets to do that on
the daily and see the rewards? Not very many people.
It takes a lot of courage. And I get to
sit with this beautiful, amazing, really gorgeous. I've said this before, y'all,
(01:13):
y'all understand. You know I love me a brown skinned girl, Okay,
And she is truly a beauty content creator. She talks
about a lot of things. Beauty is something that I
think she personifies, whether she's talking about beauty or talking
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about food, or talking about travel or talking about hair.
Beauty is always represented, and so I would like to
call her a beauty content creator and influencer. The one
and only gorgeous Eleast.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Hello, thank you so much for the amazing introduction.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
It's how I see you.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I really appreciate it is you're beautiful.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
First of all, y'all. Clearly the material.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Never decline. Face card never declined, never ever.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Okay, So how are you? How is your joy meter today?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
It's it's at ten.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
So I get to be here with you, the wonderful
people in this room.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I get to live my life and I get to enjoy,
and I'm really thankful for that.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
So my my joy meter is up here.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Is up here? Okay, Well we're gonna keep it up
there and maybe raise it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Tell y'all, Okay, so question because I was reading a
little bit and you come up from a you come
from a very educated family.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I do very family.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I do, yes, and you got your law degree.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And I'm talking beauty and brains, y'all. It really don't
make sense. The package is packaging.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Come on tell them, But what.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Did you find that at all pressure to grow up
in a family that was so well educated.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Did you feel like you were not forced, but.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Really needed to find something that felt like it was
like them.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I would definitely say that I come from an immigrant household.
My parents are from Ghana, that's in West Africa, so
coming I just always put the caby out there. I
don't know if people know I, but yeah, I think
my parents, you know, I think any West African parent
is going to really put an emphasis on education, which
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I think is also very important because at the end
of the day, education is power in this country, so
it's really important. And yeah, my parents are in the
medical field. My brother also went the medical route. I
went the law route technically, and my sister graduated from
Cornell recently. So I definitely have a lot of like,
(03:58):
you know, everyone's kind of doing something in that realm.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
But I think one thing I'm really really thankful for
is that though my parents were always very much pushing
the importance of education, they never actually forced us or
made us choose any specific pathway. It was more so,
do what you like, just make sure that you pursue
it to the fullest amount that you can. So there
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was never like a my dad and mom, they never
sat around and was like, oh, you know, at least
you have to become a doctor, you have to become
a lawyer. Very thankfully, I was never pressured to do that,
but I think I felt the understanding and they're like,
you know the importance of what it was to be
an educated black person, And I was like, I'm going
to do this because I know how important is it is.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
And I think the law is very interesting and a
very good thing to know just in general.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
So yeah, you know, the pressure wasn't there, but the
importance to do so definitely was.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
That's a really really good distinction.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
When did you you realize you had all of this
creativity just bubbling up in you?
Speaker 5 (05:06):
It has.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
You are you are just I know, there's too many
things I'm doing all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
No, I mean I think that with the creator, it's
always just been who I am. Like, since I was
a child, me and my mom used to uh watch
the Sound of Music and like Annie over and over
and we had them on DVD.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
No, no, no, no vhs.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Oh yeah vhs. So like I've been singing, taking pictures.
I got my first camera when I was like seven,
or eight years old, my parents got me like a
little just digital camera from like Walmart or something, but
like it was creativity has always been something that's like
bubbled within me, and my mom has always been someone
(05:49):
who wanted to nurture that as well. I was in
music lessons since I was a child, I was in
dance lessons, I did ballet, so all these like different
creative things have always It's just been something that I've
always pursued since I was a kid, and I knew
that it had to be part of whatever I do
in the future, regardless of what my pathway was. And yeah,
(06:11):
I'm really glad that I've been able to like just
even turn it into a career and I get to
be creative and I get to express my joy in
so many different ways, and it's been a great time.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, I love that is Music's still part of your
creative journey.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Oh absolutely.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I feel like music has always been like my my
first love. Like I've been playing the piano since I
was seven years old. I taught myself the guitar, I
taught myself the bass. I wanted to learn the drums,
and actually I had a drum kit for two years
but I never actually sat down to learn because the
drums is like you got to get somebody to teach
you that sometimes, cause.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
You know, it wasn't I couldn't do it myself.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
But it's still on the list of like you know things,
it's on the list. It's on the But yeah, music
is always I love instruments. I collect instruments, even the
ones that I cannot play. I have a trumpet, I
have a saxophone. Neither of them I can play, but
I do have them.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
But yeah, no, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I've always enjoyed music, listening to it, playing it, singing
anything related to it.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It's so, does it.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Come from anywhere specifically in your family or is.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
This an a least original love and desire.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I think I.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Think it does stem from I think I have a
unique connection to music myself. But my sister's also very
musical askue. She's very technically proficient. She was to wire
her entire like middle school and high school career, so
she really enjoyed it too. My mom and my grandma
were always like singing in church and things like that.
So yeah, it's always been. It's just been around, always been. Yeah, Yeah,
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that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I think it's very interesting when you decide to there's
something about enjoying music, and then there's something about learning
how to play specific instruments, and I think that it
just takes it another step further, which is very It's how.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
To read the music and understand what you play.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, I definitely, Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I like to learn it by memory because learning music
theory now, that's that's It's definitely like I commend to
anyone who's able to like cite ready, that's amazing. I
definitely cannot site read to that degree. Maybe on the
piano I can, and then you play. Oh yeah, absolutely,
(08:30):
I can like hear it and then I'll have to
like transpose it. But yeah, that it's a lot of
fun for me. It helps me slow down, you know,
as a stop for a second.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Yea, let me focus on this thing. It's very therapeutic,
I feel is it?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
So do you feel like music is therapy for you
or or is there are there other things that you
used to sort of stop and slow down?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
You have so much going for you.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah, I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So many things. So what do you do to just
stop and sort of take a breather? And do a
little bit of I don't know that it's self care
because I feel like what you do you love, yeah,
which is you know every self care. Yeah, that's you know,
you're feeding your your brain, your spirit, your your body.
(09:18):
So what is the thing that allows you to slow
down and maybe enjoy the joy of the moment.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I think with like content creation, being an influencer, like
you are constantly on your phone, you were constantly consuming
content to see what am I gonna post?
Speaker 4 (09:35):
What am I going to do?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
And that became a big thing for me, especially during
law school, because doing both at the same time, I
was like, oh, I'm going to lose.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
My mind, like at this point.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yes, I think one of the big things that have
become like therapy for me that I've enjoyed is I
roller skate a lot. And I also the most California
thing about me is that I'm really into longboarding, which
no one ever like assumes of me, But I've been
long boarding since I was in high school, like you.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Know, the really long skateboard.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yeah, that's like the most California thing about me is
that I'm really into it. I love longboarding, But those
two activities are like physical activities, but they don't take
too much.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
They're not too strenuous. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, and it's a little bit more fun than just walking, though.
I think walking is great. And so I'll put on
a song and then I'll just go around my neighborhood
and it's like a nice way to kind of just
like decompress and enjoy moving through the environment and you know,
just listening that is so fascinating.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
No one ever knows that I longboard, but it's like
my longboard is in my trunk like I always have
it with me.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I love this. I love this.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
There's so many random things that I'm just like into.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
That is so so you're very curious.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Oh absolutely, Curiosity is so like that's how the world
is interesting. Like if you if you don't if you're
not inquisitive and you don't ask questions and wonder why
this is this and be like, oh, that's such an
interesting thing over there.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I want to. Like.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
My screen time on Wikipedia sometimes is crazy because I'm
just researching.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Things I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Wikipedia might not be the best, actually, no, I think
it's a perfect source at this look.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
People can get on and change what they need to, right,
So if they don't want to, it is what it is, right.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
But yeah, no, I think you're curiosity is important.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
That's really okay. So I'm you You've kind of just blown.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
My mind a little bit. But I love this and
I love the because.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I feel like you always have to find something to
do with your time. I feel like idle hands are
you know, you find some way to get busy doing
some you ain't got no business doing.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
That's how it happens.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
So I love that.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
You have these hobbies and have these things that you're
curious about, that that calm you, that excites you, that
allow you to be present and feel the joy of
what you've already created. When you decided school was content creation,
anything that was on your mind, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I was actually already I started content creation in like
I've always been posting on social media. But I feel
like there's always been like a bubble for you know,
people to break out in terms of like what social
media was popular at the time.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
There was the Instagram bubble, the YouTube.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Bubble, when TikTok came around, you know, twenty nineteen is
my sister was telling me get on TikTok. Get on TikTok,
I was like, girl, what I thought? It was like
a kid's app, you know, I didn't know what it was. Yeah,
but then the pandemic came around, I got on it,
just like so many other creators who got their start
in twenty twenty, and that's just kind of how it
happened for me. So I went to law school in
(12:41):
twenty twenty one, that's when I started. But I started
TikTok like for real in twenty twenty. So I had
gained a following and a substantial like idea that, oh,
this could possibly be like an actual career that I
could pursue. So when I decided to still pursue law
school at the same time, I was like, well, you
know what, I can like sustain myself out in California
(13:03):
just having fun while also going to law school and
just do both at the same time. And that's what
I did, because I was like, I'm not willing to
give this up, but I know it's important for me
to just get this extra degree, and so I just
decided to do both. And yeah, so it was definitely
like the very it was the start of me doing
it full time. At the same time that I started lost,
which is wild. It's absolutely insane. All my friends will
(13:27):
tell you. I was losing my mind constantly. I was
like editing in between classes. Yes, I was doing a lot. Man,
Oh my words.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
I made it through. That's what mattered to me.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You know, I talked to someone and I love it
and it was such encouragement for me. I interviewed Ryan
Michelle Bethet and we were talking about, you know, the
things that we do to try to make sure we
can get there, and how we try to make.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Sure we can finish, get to the finish line.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
How do we She was like, nobody says you have
to finish, You finish, just get to get there.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
When they got to throw themselves.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Do we just gotta get there. It doesn't matter what
it looks like. So you may love that.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I love that. That's really good?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Like that was that?
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Go?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Get touched me? Okay?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
So content creation when you started, what was your idea
of what that could look like?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I think because I had always been aware of influencers
and like the influencer world, but I didn't really know
like any of the ins and outs of it at all,
because you know, at the time, there wasn't even a
lot of information in general, you kind of just find
yourself in the situation. But I think when I was
when I started creating, I mostly started with food and
(14:47):
and I think I got my first brand deal one
year after starting, and the brand deal wasn't even in food.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
It was like lifestyle was like shaving, what do you
call it? Yeah, And so I was like, huh, it
looks like there's.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Actually tons of avenues and ways that this can go,
Like I don't have to only do food. Yeah, And
so I was posting my photography, I was posting like
little vlogs here and there. But once I learned that
there's like a really big world of just what you
are allowed to do in any of your social media,
I was like, oh, okay, like content creation, I can
(15:24):
pursue it in so many different aspects, which I think
was what was exciting for me because I like the
idea of so many different things.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
As you can tell that I do so many things.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I liked the idea that there's so many avenues that
I could I could pursue. So yeah, when I started,
I kind of had like more of a narrow mind.
I thought, maybe you had to only do one thing.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
But focus on one thing.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, it turned out maybe you could just be yourself online.
That's what I did.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Turns out right, turns out it's okay.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
They like me. Yeah, which it was really nice to
see that.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
That's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Why food? When you started with food? Why food girl?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Food is my life. I love food so much.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
No, I mean, I feel like I've always being West African,
I eat a lot of gunny and food. But then
also growing up, I had a lot of East Asian
friends and Southeast Asian friends, so I would have a
lot of different Asian cuisines, which was really nice too.
And just like being someone who's never been like a
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picky eater, I just love any type of food that
I haven't had, Like I'll try anything at least once,
just because it's like that's cool, Like I want to
see what's going on in this country they make this
like this, Yeah, let me try it, you know. So
I did food because food was something that I'm so
comfortable with, Like I'm so comfortable trying new foods, cooking
new foods, trying new restaurants, anything like that, and food
(16:50):
is like the easiest way to connect with people.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Easiest way to connect with people.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Well, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Agree, because I feel like anytime you're wanting to talk
to people or get together, it's always like, hey, let's
you know, over some Yeah, let's grab a bike. Yeah
you know, because I think that also, food is something
that it truly feeds your soul, and so it's easier
to sort of break down walls when you're having a
(17:16):
nice meal and it's like, oh, Okay, this is good.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah you're good.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I like okay, I like this. You're more open, you know. Yeah,
a rapport going, girl, I love some food.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Come on.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
So then I need some recommendations for food. Yeahs, I
need I need some recommendations.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
So what is you do?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
So you do a lot? You do a lot, you
do travel, You do hair. I love your hair, You
do beauty, you just do funny. You do funny, you
do funny very.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Well, you funny.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
What is the piece of creation.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
That you're most proud of or the thing that that
has brought you the most joy to doutely.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I think when it comes to the thing that's brought
me the most joy, it's absolutely I do this little
series called one hundred why Nots, which is literally my like,
I have a tattoo right here.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I don't know if you can see it. It says why not?
Oh yeah, I got it.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I got it in Amsterdam like three years ago, whenever
I visited.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
But I love the idea.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Of just like saying why not to every single thing
that you could possibly do. So it was me just
going around doing crazy stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
I got a I got a.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Forty pound cheese of Parmigiano reggiano direct from Italy. I
got a Penny Farthing bike that's the one with the
really big front wheel and the really small one. I
got an Ostrich egg, two of them. Actually, one of
them is still in the back of my fridge because
I forgot about it.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
I'm too scared to open it now five months old.
Oh my god, I think I'm gonna I'm gonna turn
it into decoration and hopefully no one ever like knocks it.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Over because that'll be awkward for all of us.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
And yeah, I have tons of other ideas, but like
that whole series that I started was literally for the
purpose of enjoying life, like experiencing joy and whatever the
things that you decide to do, whatever fun things you
want to do. And it was kind of just a
way to like inspire people to just like pursue fun
things like life is too short?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Ye have fun?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah, just why not? That's literally what it was for.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
So I think that's the thing that brings me the
absolute most joy, just because that that series is the
personification of me doing things that bring me joy.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah, it's a good time.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
So do you feel like what you're doing in all
of your creation is the end goal to be inspiring
to other people?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I'm just gonna do this for the next five years
and then maybe pivot to something else.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
What's your end goal?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I think my end goal, like my goal has always
been to be able to just do the things that
I want with something that I enjoy. So whatever career
that I'm in, as long as I enjoy it and
I'm able to like live my life the way that
I want, I'm good. So I think exactly. I think
for me next five years, next whatever, I would hope
(20:21):
to still be creating them, like that's my big thing.
I would love to do that. I do want to
take the bar because I would love to like cross that. Yeah,
but definitely being able to still create in whatever capacity.
I would love to try traditional media. I would love
to do commercials. I'm gonna I'm going to try to
submit some headshots for that.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Things and stuff.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Why not? You get it?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
You love it, I love it, I love it.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
But being able to create and have fun, I think
is is my my goal. And then for people who
you know, I thankful who watch me and support me,
I hope to inspire them to just try to enjoy
any part of their lives. Obviously, I'm very thankful and
blessed to be in the place that I'm at. And
I obviously I'm not naive enough to just assume anyone
(21:13):
can just get up and do anything.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Because that's it's not life.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
But even if you're it's not a right now or
maybe it's a later finding just like the joy in
everyday things, Yeah, is also fun, Like I canna fantasize everything,
even my macha in the morning.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I'm like, ah, I go.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
And get fancy milk from sprouts so that I can
macha lavender macha. I got orange creamtickle milk the other day.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
And this is to me, this sounds like ways of
learning to love yourself.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, fully and completely.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Whatever moves you. This is what I want to try,
and this is what I'm liking. I'm going to do it.
There's no time like the present, exactly. A lot of
times people put so many things off because they're.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Just like, ah, but this is the girl, this is
the goal. To me, you are personifying enjoying the journey.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Yeah, you have to.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I mean, the time is going to pass regardless of
what you do, so you might as well what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Happy in it?
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I love that. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Just a couple
more questions. What would be your suggestion for other young
people wanting to They see what you do, they love it,
they think you're incredible, and they want to find their
space in content creation.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
What would you suggest for them?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I think when people ask me this, the two things
that come to mind.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
The first is you do just need to start.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I think it's always the hardest hump to get over
is the starting. But I always say, like, I know
that you have watched every video, you've watched, every tutorial,
you've read, every article about what to get, what to do,
how to do that. You got to apply those things
at some point to even see you know, the things
that you have to work on, if you have to
work on anything. So getting yourself to the point of
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just starting, which is it's much harder than it seems,
and I still struggle with it sometimes too. But once
you get over that, you find that all of this
is really not that serious.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
It's really not that serious, Like it's supposed to be fun.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
It's not supposed to be something that like causes you
so much.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Like internal stress and stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
And I understand that it can, but I think being
able to like remove that at least initially and just
allow yourself to start is definitely my first step. And
then the second thing that I always tell people is,
no matter what you decide to post, make sure that
who you are as a person is what shines through.
Because what I've learned is that you know you can
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do something and people really enjoy that one specific thing
that you do, but they don't care for you as
a person. They only see you as like this one
specific like product.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yeah, but when.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
When you really push forward your personality and who you
are as a person, and you make yourself the through
line of all your content, which is what I think
that I do, which I and you do it very well.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I think that's what I do, which is has allowed
me to post so many different types of things. When
you make yourself like the focal point of your content,
people really do enjoy coming back just for you.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
It doesn't matter what you're doing, they just like it
because it's yeah. Yeah. So those are the two things
that I usually I think I would tell.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
People, yeah, girl, are you good dropping some jobs?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I I hope they're picking it up because you're dropping it.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I just want to end this with like a little
game and this is I'm certainly thinking about this on
the fly. So I love your why not? And I
believe that that's an incredible challenge. I think that we
can all apply to life. Just it doesn't have to
be so serious. Life is going to life. We are
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all going to go through some things. So when asked
about something interesting, something that you know you would like
to try, but it's just sort of like.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Why not, think about why not?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
And and for you, I want to so in the
improv world, we kind of have a a yes and
and so I want to, uh, I want to dig
into your into your your singing, your your music life
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because I feel like, it's such a strong hobby that
brings you so much joy.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
So I'm hoping you'll say.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yes and uh, maybe sing a song that you love,
A little ditty that has brought you joy, that you
go back to, that makes you smile, that reminds you
of something. I don't know if you can find any
more joy to put on your face or your person.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Because you literally walk in it. You are a reflection
of joy.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
I appreciate you so much. It's just speaking so much
positive energy into me.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Right, it's beautiful. I love it.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Okay, a song, I have to think of something. Oh
my goodness, what's a song that I really enjoy? Okay, Yeah,
let's try. Yes, what's like my go toy karaoke song?
That'll be easy, okay, Alicia, conuse me.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, if it brings a smile, it can honestly be
anything any smile.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yes, Okay.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
How about how about the That's a Raven theme song?
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I know that I haven't heard that in forever?
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Please? Yes, Okay, I'm just gonna try and do a
little because on the spot.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Just a tank, just a tank space one two three.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
If you could gaze into the future, you know that
life would be breeze seeing trouble from a distance. Yeah,
go right, but it's not Thirtyay, I'm gone, You're try
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and see a situation. Then I end up misty. Haybabe, Oh.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Better go. That was a fun little clip, y'all.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
You know, Oh my god, I've actually never done that,
like in a live situation in front of Juals here.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Thank you. That was amazing, no warmer.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
But I think so what's so beautiful is that it's
not about hitting the wrong note. It's not about what
somebody else is going to think. And I think as
long as people can see you and see.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Your honesty and sincerity and your joy.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Because it was fun, like that was fun and also
you were amazing.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Thank you. But that was so fun.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I wish people could And it takes time. I get it.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
People come from different situations. It's difficult. I think you
are a very strong representation of what living your joy
out loud looks like. And it's so beautiful and I'm
so grateful that I get to sit here and chat
with you.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Do you know this is my first ever podcast interview
in my life.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Are you serious?
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Absolutely? What an honor?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Good honor is it to be here, We've got to
Lee's first baby. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I love that you are killing it, that you are
killing it. You are young.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I'm telling y'all beauty and brains together literally uh and
and whatever you want to do and desire to do,
I know that you will do.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I'm not worried about that at all.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Absolutely stunning, really truly in every in every way of
the word. You are stunning. Thank you, thank you, Thank
you so much for coming in. And I had so
much fun.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
No, this is great, this is.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Like, I'm so happy.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I'm I'm really overwhelmed because I think sometimes it's easy
to see the way.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
Of some people that are not quite your age and
be like what y'all doing, But to sit here with
at least, it's just like, I'm so excited the world.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
If people are watching her and looking at her and
following her, I think we're gonna be good. We're gonna
be all right, you know what I mean. The kid's
gonna be okay, the kids are the kids.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Are all right.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
And I think today, first of all, thank you for
tuning in to choosing joy. Thank you for listening to
my amazingly beautiful guests in and out at least beauty
content creator, influencer, woman of the world. Get into the
why not and understand that life is gonna be what
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you make it. Enjoy the journey, Enjoy getting to your destination.
All the nooks and crannies that you walk into and
try to say.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Why not, You know, absolutely why not.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Enjoy.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Thank you for tuning in, Click that subscribe button, that
like button, let us know what else you want to
hear and talk about, and thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Thank you, Bye,
Hello, it is Deborah Joy Winen's Williams here, and thank
you so much for tuning into choosing Joy.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Today. I get to sit with.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Someone who I would say is equal beauty and brains. Yes,
they go together, honey, they are going together with you.
They go together real hard.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh, thank you. Someone who is.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Incredibly intelligent, incredibly smart, but also is somewhat joy personified.
I feel like she walks with a smile because she
is doing the thing that she loves. And a lot
of times it takes discipline and courage to step out
there and step away from something that maybe feels very
(00:47):
sure and to sort of jump into or rather dive
face forward into something that is unpredictable, but it's the
thing that you love. Who gets to do that on
the daily and see the rewards? Not very many people.
It takes a lot of courage. And I get to
sit with this beautiful, amazing, really gorgeous. I've said this before, y'all,
(01:13):
y'all understand. You know I love me a brown skinned girl, Okay,
And she is truly a beauty content creator. She talks
about a lot of things. Beauty is something that I
think she personifies, whether she's talking about beauty or talking
(01:34):
about food, or talking about travel or talking about hair.
Beauty is always represented, and so I would like to
call her a beauty content creator and influencer. The one
and only gorgeous Eleast.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Hello, thank you so much for the amazing introduction.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
It's how I see you.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I really appreciate it is you're beautiful.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
First of all, y'all. Clearly the material.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Never decline. Face card never declined, never ever.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Okay, So how are you? How is your joy meter today?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
It's it's at ten.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
So I get to be here with you, the wonderful
people in this room.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I get to live my life and I get to enjoy,
and I'm really thankful for that.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
So my my joy meter is up here.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Is up here? Okay, Well we're gonna keep it up
there and maybe raise it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Tell y'all, Okay, so question because I was reading a
little bit and you come up from a you come
from a very educated family.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I do very family.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I do, yes, and you got your law degree.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And I'm talking beauty and brains, y'all. It really don't
make sense. The package is packaging.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Come on tell them, But what.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Did you find that at all pressure to grow up
in a family that was so well educated.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Did you feel like you were not forced, but.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Really needed to find something that felt like it was
like them.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I would definitely say that I come from an immigrant household.
My parents are from Ghana, that's in West Africa, so
coming I just always put the caby out there. I
don't know if people know I, but yeah, I think
my parents, you know, I think any West African parent
is going to really put an emphasis on education, which
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I think is also very important because at the end
of the day, education is power in this country, so
it's really important. And yeah, my parents are in the
medical field. My brother also went the medical route. I
went the law route technically, and my sister graduated from
Cornell recently. So I definitely have a lot of like,
(03:58):
you know, everyone's kind of doing something in that realm.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
But I think one thing I'm really really thankful for
is that though my parents were always very much pushing
the importance of education, they never actually forced us or
made us choose any specific pathway. It was more so,
do what you like, just make sure that you pursue
it to the fullest amount that you can. So there
(04:24):
was never like a my dad and mom, they never
sat around and was like, oh, you know, at least
you have to become a doctor, you have to become
a lawyer. Very thankfully, I was never pressured to do that,
but I think I felt the understanding and they're like,
you know the importance of what it was to be
an educated black person, And I was like, I'm going
to do this because I know how important is it is.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
And I think the law is very interesting and a
very good thing to know just in general.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
So yeah, you know, the pressure wasn't there, but the
importance to do so definitely was.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
That's a really really good distinction.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
When did you you realize you had all of this
creativity just bubbling up in you?
Speaker 5 (05:06):
It has.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
You are you are just I know, there's too many
things I'm doing all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
No, I mean I think that with the creator, it's
always just been who I am. Like, since I was
a child, me and my mom used to uh watch
the Sound of Music and like Annie over and over
and we had them on DVD.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
No, no, no, no vhs.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Oh yeah vhs. So like I've been singing, taking pictures.
I got my first camera when I was like seven,
or eight years old, my parents got me like a
little just digital camera from like Walmart or something, but
like it was creativity has always been something that's like
bubbled within me, and my mom has always been someone
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who wanted to nurture that as well. I was in
music lessons since I was a child, I was in
dance lessons, I did ballet, so all these like different
creative things have always It's just been something that I've
always pursued since I was a kid, and I knew
that it had to be part of whatever I do
in the future, regardless of what my pathway was. And yeah,
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I'm really glad that I've been able to like just
even turn it into a career and I get to
be creative and I get to express my joy in
so many different ways, and it's been a great time.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, I love that is Music's still part of your
creative journey.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Oh absolutely.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I feel like music has always been like my my
first love. Like I've been playing the piano since I
was seven years old. I taught myself the guitar, I
taught myself the bass. I wanted to learn the drums,
and actually I had a drum kit for two years
but I never actually sat down to learn because the
drums is like you got to get somebody to teach
you that sometimes, cause.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
You know, it wasn't I couldn't do it myself.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
But it's still on the list of like you know things,
it's on the list. It's on the But yeah, music
is always I love instruments. I collect instruments, even the
ones that I cannot play. I have a trumpet, I
have a saxophone. Neither of them I can play, but
I do have them.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
But yeah, no, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I've always enjoyed music, listening to it, playing it, singing
anything related to it.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It's so, does it.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Come from anywhere specifically in your family or is.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
This an a least original love and desire.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I think I.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Think it does stem from I think I have a
unique connection to music myself. But my sister's also very
musical askue. She's very technically proficient. She was to wire
her entire like middle school and high school career, so
she really enjoyed it too. My mom and my grandma
were always like singing in church and things like that.
So yeah, it's always been. It's just been around, always been. Yeah, Yeah,
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that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I think it's very interesting when you decide to there's
something about enjoying music, and then there's something about learning
how to play specific instruments, and I think that it
just takes it another step further, which is very It's how.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
To read the music and understand what you play.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, I definitely, Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I like to learn it by memory because learning music
theory now, that's that's It's definitely like I commend to
anyone who's able to like cite ready, that's amazing. I
definitely cannot site read to that degree. Maybe on the
piano I can, and then you play. Oh yeah, absolutely,
(08:30):
I can like hear it and then I'll have to
like transpose it. But yeah, that it's a lot of
fun for me. It helps me slow down, you know,
as a stop for a second.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Yea, let me focus on this thing. It's very therapeutic,
I feel is it?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
So do you feel like music is therapy for you
or or is there are there other things that you
used to sort of stop and slow down?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
You have so much going for you.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah, I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So many things. So what do you do to just
stop and sort of take a breather? And do a
little bit of I don't know that it's self care
because I feel like what you do you love, yeah,
which is you know every self care. Yeah, that's you know,
you're feeding your your brain, your spirit, your your body.
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So what is the thing that allows you to slow
down and maybe enjoy the joy of the moment.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I think with like content creation, being an influencer, like
you are constantly on your phone, you were constantly consuming
content to see what am I gonna post?
Speaker 4 (09:35):
What am I going to do?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
And that became a big thing for me, especially during
law school, because doing both at the same time, I
was like, oh, I'm going to lose.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
My mind, like at this point.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yes, I think one of the big things that have
become like therapy for me that I've enjoyed is I
roller skate a lot. And I also the most California
thing about me is that I'm really into longboarding, which
no one ever like assumes of me, But I've been
long boarding since I was in high school, like you.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Know, the really long skateboard.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yeah, that's like the most California thing about me is
that I'm really into it. I love longboarding, But those
two activities are like physical activities, but they don't take
too much.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
They're not too strenuous. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, and it's a little bit more fun than just walking, though.
I think walking is great. And so I'll put on
a song and then I'll just go around my neighborhood
and it's like a nice way to kind of just
like decompress and enjoy moving through the environment and you know,
just listening that is so fascinating.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
No one ever knows that I longboard, but it's like
my longboard is in my trunk like I always have
it with me.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I love this. I love this.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
There's so many random things that I'm just like into.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
That is so so you're very curious.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Oh absolutely, Curiosity is so like that's how the world
is interesting. Like if you if you don't if you're
not inquisitive and you don't ask questions and wonder why
this is this and be like, oh, that's such an
interesting thing over there.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I want to. Like.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
My screen time on Wikipedia sometimes is crazy because I'm
just researching.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Things I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Wikipedia might not be the best, actually, no, I think
it's a perfect source at this look.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
People can get on and change what they need to, right,
So if they don't want to, it is what it is, right.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
But yeah, no, I think you're curiosity is important.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
That's really okay. So I'm you You've kind of just blown.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
My mind a little bit. But I love this and
I love the because.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I feel like you always have to find something to
do with your time. I feel like idle hands are
you know, you find some way to get busy doing
some you ain't got no business doing.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
That's how it happens.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
So I love that.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
You have these hobbies and have these things that you're
curious about, that that calm you, that excites you, that
allow you to be present and feel the joy of
what you've already created. When you decided school was content creation,
anything that was on your mind, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I was actually already I started content creation in like
I've always been posting on social media. But I feel
like there's always been like a bubble for you know,
people to break out in terms of like what social
media was popular at the time.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
There was the Instagram bubble, the YouTube.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Bubble, when TikTok came around, you know, twenty nineteen is
my sister was telling me get on TikTok. Get on TikTok,
I was like, girl, what I thought? It was like
a kid's app, you know, I didn't know what it was. Yeah,
but then the pandemic came around, I got on it,
just like so many other creators who got their start
in twenty twenty, and that's just kind of how it
happened for me. So I went to law school in
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twenty twenty one, that's when I started. But I started
TikTok like for real in twenty twenty. So I had
gained a following and a substantial like idea that, oh,
this could possibly be like an actual career that I
could pursue. So when I decided to still pursue law
school at the same time, I was like, well, you
know what, I can like sustain myself out in California
(13:03):
just having fun while also going to law school and
just do both at the same time. And that's what
I did, because I was like, I'm not willing to
give this up, but I know it's important for me
to just get this extra degree, and so I just
decided to do both. And yeah, so it was definitely
like the very it was the start of me doing
it full time. At the same time that I started lost,
which is wild. It's absolutely insane. All my friends will
(13:27):
tell you. I was losing my mind constantly. I was
like editing in between classes. Yes, I was doing a lot. Man,
Oh my words.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
I made it through. That's what mattered to me.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You know, I talked to someone and I love it
and it was such encouragement for me. I interviewed Ryan
Michelle Bethet and we were talking about, you know, the
things that we do to try to make sure we
can get there, and how we try to make.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Sure we can finish, get to the finish line.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
How do we She was like, nobody says you have
to finish, You finish, just get to get there.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
When they got to throw themselves.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Do we just gotta get there. It doesn't matter what
it looks like. So you may love that.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I love that. That's really good?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Like that was that?
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Go?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Get touched me? Okay?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
So content creation when you started, what was your idea
of what that could look like?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I think because I had always been aware of influencers
and like the influencer world, but I didn't really know
like any of the ins and outs of it at all,
because you know, at the time, there wasn't even a
lot of information in general, you kind of just find
yourself in the situation. But I think when I was
when I started creating, I mostly started with food and
(14:47):
and I think I got my first brand deal one
year after starting, and the brand deal wasn't even in food.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
It was like lifestyle was like shaving, what do you
call it? Yeah, And so I was like, huh, it
looks like there's.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Actually tons of avenues and ways that this can go,
Like I don't have to only do food. Yeah, And
so I was posting my photography, I was posting like
little vlogs here and there. But once I learned that
there's like a really big world of just what you
are allowed to do in any of your social media,
I was like, oh, okay, like content creation, I can
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pursue it in so many different aspects, which I think
was what was exciting for me because I like the
idea of so many different things.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
As you can tell that I do so many things.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I liked the idea that there's so many avenues that
I could I could pursue. So yeah, when I started,
I kind of had like more of a narrow mind.
I thought, maybe you had to only do one thing.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
But focus on one thing.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, it turned out maybe you could just be yourself online.
That's what I did.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Turns out right, turns out it's okay.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
They like me. Yeah, which it was really nice to
see that.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
That's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Why food? When you started with food? Why food girl?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Food is my life. I love food so much.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
No, I mean, I feel like I've always being West African,
I eat a lot of gunny and food. But then
also growing up, I had a lot of East Asian
friends and Southeast Asian friends, so I would have a
lot of different Asian cuisines, which was really nice too.
And just like being someone who's never been like a
(16:27):
picky eater, I just love any type of food that
I haven't had, Like I'll try anything at least once,
just because it's like that's cool, Like I want to
see what's going on in this country they make this
like this, Yeah, let me try it, you know. So
I did food because food was something that I'm so
comfortable with, Like I'm so comfortable trying new foods, cooking
new foods, trying new restaurants, anything like that, and food
(16:50):
is like the easiest way to connect with people.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Easiest way to connect with people.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Well, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Agree, because I feel like anytime you're wanting to talk
to people or get together, it's always like, hey, let's
you know, over some Yeah, let's grab a bike. Yeah
you know, because I think that also, food is something
that it truly feeds your soul, and so it's easier
to sort of break down walls when you're having a
(17:16):
nice meal and it's like, oh, Okay, this is good.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah you're good.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I like okay, I like this. You're more open, you know. Yeah,
a rapport going, girl, I love some food.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Come on.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
So then I need some recommendations for food. Yeahs, I
need I need some recommendations.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
So what is you do?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
So you do a lot? You do a lot, you
do travel, You do hair. I love your hair, You
do beauty, you just do funny. You do funny, you
do funny very.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Well, you funny.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
What is the piece of creation.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
That you're most proud of or the thing that that
has brought you the most joy to doutely.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I think when it comes to the thing that's brought
me the most joy, it's absolutely I do this little
series called one hundred why Nots, which is literally my like,
I have a tattoo right here.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I don't know if you can see it. It says why not?
Oh yeah, I got it.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I got it in Amsterdam like three years ago, whenever
I visited.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
But I love the idea.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Of just like saying why not to every single thing
that you could possibly do. So it was me just
going around doing crazy stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
I got a I got a.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Forty pound cheese of Parmigiano reggiano direct from Italy. I
got a Penny Farthing bike that's the one with the
really big front wheel and the really small one. I
got an Ostrich egg, two of them. Actually, one of
them is still in the back of my fridge because
I forgot about it.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
I'm too scared to open it now five months old.
Oh my god, I think I'm gonna I'm gonna turn
it into decoration and hopefully no one ever like knocks it.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Over because that'll be awkward for all of us.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
And yeah, I have tons of other ideas, but like
that whole series that I started was literally for the
purpose of enjoying life, like experiencing joy and whatever the
things that you decide to do, whatever fun things you
want to do. And it was kind of just a
way to like inspire people to just like pursue fun
things like life is too short?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Ye have fun?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah, just why not? That's literally what it was for.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
So I think that's the thing that brings me the
absolute most joy, just because that that series is the
personification of me doing things that bring me joy.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah, it's a good time.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
So do you feel like what you're doing in all
of your creation is the end goal to be inspiring
to other people?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I'm just gonna do this for the next five years
and then maybe pivot to something else.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
What's your end goal?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I think my end goal, like my goal has always
been to be able to just do the things that
I want with something that I enjoy. So whatever career
that I'm in, as long as I enjoy it and
I'm able to like live my life the way that
I want, I'm good. So I think exactly. I think
for me next five years, next whatever, I would hope
(20:21):
to still be creating them, like that's my big thing.
I would love to do that. I do want to
take the bar because I would love to like cross that. Yeah,
but definitely being able to still create in whatever capacity.
I would love to try traditional media. I would love
to do commercials. I'm gonna I'm going to try to
submit some headshots for that.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Things and stuff.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Why not? You get it?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
You love it, I love it, I love it.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
But being able to create and have fun, I think
is is my my goal. And then for people who
you know, I thankful who watch me and support me,
I hope to inspire them to just try to enjoy
any part of their lives. Obviously, I'm very thankful and
blessed to be in the place that I'm at. And
I obviously I'm not naive enough to just assume anyone
(21:13):
can just get up and do anything.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Because that's it's not life.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
But even if you're it's not a right now or
maybe it's a later finding just like the joy in
everyday things, Yeah, is also fun, Like I canna fantasize everything,
even my macha in the morning.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I'm like, ah, I go.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
And get fancy milk from sprouts so that I can
macha lavender macha. I got orange creamtickle milk the other day.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
And this is to me, this sounds like ways of
learning to love yourself.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, fully and completely.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Whatever moves you. This is what I want to try,
and this is what I'm liking. I'm going to do it.
There's no time like the present, exactly. A lot of
times people put so many things off because they're.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Just like, ah, but this is the girl, this is
the goal. To me, you are personifying enjoying the journey.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Yeah, you have to.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I mean, the time is going to pass regardless of
what you do, so you might as well what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Happy in it?
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I love that. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Just a couple
more questions. What would be your suggestion for other young
people wanting to They see what you do, they love it,
they think you're incredible, and they want to find their
space in content creation.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
What would you suggest for them?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I think when people ask me this, the two things
that come to mind.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
The first is you do just need to start.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I think it's always the hardest hump to get over
is the starting. But I always say, like, I know
that you have watched every video, you've watched, every tutorial,
you've read, every article about what to get, what to do,
how to do that. You got to apply those things
at some point to even see you know, the things
that you have to work on, if you have to
work on anything. So getting yourself to the point of
(23:09):
just starting, which is it's much harder than it seems,
and I still struggle with it sometimes too. But once
you get over that, you find that all of this
is really not that serious.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
It's really not that serious, Like it's supposed to be fun.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
It's not supposed to be something that like causes you
so much.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Like internal stress and stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
And I understand that it can, but I think being
able to like remove that at least initially and just
allow yourself to start is definitely my first step. And
then the second thing that I always tell people is,
no matter what you decide to post, make sure that
who you are as a person is what shines through.
Because what I've learned is that you know you can
(23:51):
do something and people really enjoy that one specific thing
that you do, but they don't care for you as
a person. They only see you as like this one
specific like product.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yeah, but when.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
When you really push forward your personality and who you
are as a person, and you make yourself the through
line of all your content, which is what I think
that I do, which I and you do it very well.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I think that's what I do, which is has allowed
me to post so many different types of things. When
you make yourself like the focal point of your content,
people really do enjoy coming back just for you.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
It doesn't matter what you're doing, they just like it
because it's yeah. Yeah. So those are the two things
that I usually I think I would tell.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
People, yeah, girl, are you good dropping some jobs?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I I hope they're picking it up because you're dropping it.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I just want to end this with like a little
game and this is I'm certainly thinking about this on
the fly. So I love your why not? And I
believe that that's an incredible challenge. I think that we
can all apply to life. Just it doesn't have to
be so serious. Life is going to life. We are
(25:07):
all going to go through some things. So when asked
about something interesting, something that you know you would like
to try, but it's just sort of like.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Why not, think about why not?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
And and for you, I want to so in the
improv world, we kind of have a a yes and
and so I want to, uh, I want to dig
into your into your your singing, your your music life
(25:43):
because I feel like, it's such a strong hobby that
brings you so much joy.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
So I'm hoping you'll say.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yes and uh, maybe sing a song that you love,
A little ditty that has brought you joy, that you
go back to, that makes you smile, that reminds you
of something. I don't know if you can find any
more joy to put on your face or your person.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Because you literally walk in it. You are a reflection
of joy.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
I appreciate you so much. It's just speaking so much
positive energy into me.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Right, it's beautiful. I love it.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Okay, a song, I have to think of something. Oh
my goodness, what's a song that I really enjoy? Okay, Yeah,
let's try. Yes, what's like my go toy karaoke song?
That'll be easy, okay, Alicia, conuse me.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, if it brings a smile, it can honestly be
anything any smile.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yes, Okay.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
How about how about the That's a Raven theme song?
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I know that I haven't heard that in forever?
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Please? Yes, Okay, I'm just gonna try and do a
little because on the spot.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Just a tank, just a tank space one two three.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
If you could gaze into the future, you know that
life would be breeze seeing trouble from a distance. Yeah,
go right, but it's not Thirtyay, I'm gone, You're try
(27:27):
and see a situation. Then I end up misty. Haybabe, Oh.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Better go. That was a fun little clip, y'all.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
You know, Oh my god, I've actually never done that,
like in a live situation in front of Juals here.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Thank you. That was amazing, no warmer.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
But I think so what's so beautiful is that it's
not about hitting the wrong note. It's not about what
somebody else is going to think. And I think as
long as people can see you and see.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Your honesty and sincerity and your joy.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Because it was fun, like that was fun and also
you were amazing.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Thank you. But that was so fun.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I wish people could And it takes time. I get it.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
People come from different situations. It's difficult. I think you
are a very strong representation of what living your joy
out loud looks like. And it's so beautiful and I'm
so grateful that I get to sit here and chat
with you.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Do you know this is my first ever podcast interview
in my life.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Are you serious?
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Absolutely? What an honor?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Good honor is it to be here, We've got to
Lee's first baby. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I love that you are killing it, that you are
killing it. You are young.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I'm telling y'all beauty and brains together literally uh and
and whatever you want to do and desire to do,
I know that you will do.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I'm not worried about that at all.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Absolutely stunning, really truly in every in every way of
the word. You are stunning. Thank you, thank you, Thank
you so much for coming in. And I had so
much fun.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
No, this is great, this is.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Like, I'm so happy.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I'm I'm really overwhelmed because I think sometimes it's easy
to see the way.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
Of some people that are not quite your age and
be like what y'all doing, But to sit here with
at least, it's just like, I'm so excited the world.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
If people are watching her and looking at her and
following her, I think we're gonna be good. We're gonna
be all right, you know what I mean. The kid's
gonna be okay, the kids are the kids.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Are all right.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
And I think today, first of all, thank you for
tuning in to choosing joy. Thank you for listening to
my amazingly beautiful guests in and out at least beauty
content creator, influencer, woman of the world. Get into the
why not and understand that life is gonna be what
(30:44):
you make it. Enjoy the journey, Enjoy getting to your destination.
All the nooks and crannies that you walk into and
try to say.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Why not, You know, absolutely why not.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Enjoy.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Thank you for tuning in, Click that subscribe button, that
like button, let us know what else you want to
hear and talk about, and thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Thank you, Bye,
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