Inking Loyalty in a Digital Age

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Dustin Steffey (00:19):
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Without being said and withoutfurther ado, let's chop it up

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and we are live, we're live,we're live.
Well, it's 2024.
We haven't heard from well anyof us since 2023.
It's been a minute, it's been alittle bit.
Bree's alive, still still Mannyis well, still Manny, and still

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me.
I tried to die, but it didn'twork.

Manny Midkiff (01:53):
So how does that go, man?
You try to die and it don'twork.

I just I guess I'm retarded.
I just don't know how to likedie.
You need to work on that, Iknow.
I know I need to fix that someway, somehow, bree, say
something, yeah what is going onwith you?

Bree Jackson (02:08):
Yeah, I can say that.
Yeah, I can say that.

All right, all right, in all seriousness, I am
here with Manny and Bree atSpeakeasy Tattoo.
What's up everybody.
We have a live audience of one.

Yes, M R Say hello.

He's watching the camera and making sure we're
good.
So I mean we're we're doinggreat.
We're good so far, but, yes,welcome back.
This is going to be the postfor the new year for the podcast
, and the reason we haven'tposted anything is I tried to
pull Batman right, like I triedto go on this journey to find
Raz Aguil or like train and likefind myself and figure it out.

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Here's what I found.

Look at the bright side, man.
You're down what like 40 pounds.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I tried to find myself and instead I lost myself
.
Hey, man, but no, we're back.
Everything's good Phone ringingin the background.
We know business is good.

So, man, that's.
That's some good stuff, LikeSpeakeasy Tattoo.

So yeah, we're in the new year, yes, definitely
in the new year.

Happy fucking 2024.
You know 2023 and 2024.
That's what I'm here to talkabout.
You know 23 wasn't too bad.
We did a pretty good convention.
Bree got hung by some fishhooks, which was pretty awesome.

More, more video to come on more video.

She took first place at her first real big
convention, which I was proud ofher to see.
That was good for the shop.
It was amazing.
You know 2024, though, man.
It's starting out rocky Wellwe'll get into that.

First and foremost, I want to bring up
something I don't know different.
So we go into new years, right,right, and each new year
everybody does what we call aNew Year's resolution.
Yeah, what the fuck is a NewYear's resolution?
Good?

for I have no idea, man.
I quit doing them a long timeago.

Same like, like.
Oh, I'm going to go to the gym.
So I go to the gym, right, Isee these people walking in and
then two weeks later theydisappear, they're gone.

I mean, that's the whole point, man, you start
something, don't finish it, andthen you don't hold yourself
accountable.

And the point of it is so you can say you just
did it, you know so then,instead of calling it New Year's
resolution, why don't we justcall it a New Year?
Like I'm not going to fuckingdo it.

A New Year's.
I don't know what you wouldcall that brie Anything, brie
anything.

Come on, chime in.
No man, no resolutions thisyear.

None, not at all.

I ended up completing my last suspended
sentence, so I'm good.

Sorry, not this year Great.

This year's been great for me.

Clean slate.

Yeah, absolutely, you know, I'm good.

Instead of resolutions.
Honestly, I just I take asecond to write in my journal.
I like to write, guys, I'm acreative right, obviously, with
the podcast and everything.
So I wrote in my journal for2023 reflection.
Mind you, this year was like 10pages long, oh shit.
Yeah, 10 pages of like shit.

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And then I turned the page to2024.
And I was like, all right, I'mgoing to set goals.

So I goal set you know, I think there's a
difference between resolutionsand goals.
Definitely Like resolutionsfeel fake Goals I feel are more
positive and like moreobtainable.

You know what I mean.

Yeah, yeah, like a goal, a short term goal.
Like you know, for the New YearI'm going to save I don't know,
$200 a month, like that's afair, you know, a fair, fair
deal.
But like agreed, you know, Idon't know, just the resolutions
that we set ourselves up tofail, and then it like makes us
feel bad about ourselves.
So goals, and you know betterthan that stuff.

Yeah, so I, I took this and I should have
brought it just as a visual aid.
But I took the page and I putpersonal goals and listed about
10.
Right, I then took the page,divvied it out and I did
business goals and I have likefive.
I couldn't get to 10 with thebusiness goals.
I got to five and then I puthow right, so so there's like

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some, some tangible measure forit and so far I mean it's going
okay.
I mean I have a little bit of astruggle with some of it right
now on the personal side, but sofar, so good.
So, yeah, what the fuckerresolution is good for?
Here's my answer Nothing,unless you're actually doing
something to enforce it.

Right, I would agree with that.

It's just like fake fake words in the air.
It's kind of like the fake newsFake news Fake Boy.
I got some fake news oh my God,well, we're getting, we're
getting there, but let's play agame first.
We're gonna play a fun game.

Okay, okay.

I named this game myself.
I'm real creative.
Okay, what the fuck?
Okay, yeah, that's the game.

So we're gonna play.

what the fuck that's my favorite word, perfect
, so Bree should be winning thisgame.

On landslides so we're.

We're 21 days into the new year without a day
off and her without a day off.
I think she should talk to herboss.
Anyway, 21 days in and there'sbeen some spend some shit.
That's gone on.
So we're gonna play a gamecalled what the fuck, and it's
going to consist of small,little statements, small, small,

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tiny, tiny ass statements.
I'm getting trouble here thatwe're gonna dive into later.
Okay, and how we're gonna playthis game is is we're gonna roll
like this, right?
So we'll start with me, okay,and then we'll move to Bree
Gotta get you to participate.

Yep.

I got it, I got it, I got it.
I'm gonna move to you, and thereason we'll start with me is
because kind of got to know howto play right.

Exactly.

Yeah, I'm gonna make a statement that happened
within the last 21 days, right?

Okay.

And it's a what the fuck statement, then I'm
gonna move on.
Let's go, and then it's gonnabe Bree, so my what the fuck
statement is going to be socialmedia.
I'm gonna just leave it at thatand then move forward.
I know it makes it broad onpurpose because we're going to
dive into this, so like socialmedia to me is what the fuck so.

I mean I don't know if I feel the same way
about that the what the fuckwith social media.
I feel like it's a tool.

Actually well, we'll dive into that, though,
because there are many ways thatsocial media can be used.

I guess I could say what the fuck?
It's a tool, yeah.

But well, we will dive into that later.
I mean I could have said shitass.
Relationships that aren't takenlike seriously, that's a what
the fuck.
That's a big what the fuck.
Yeah.
But I mean I'll start withsocial media.
That's better Bree.

So you're what the fuck is social media?

Yeah.
Like like we're gonna dive intowhy later, I'm just bringing up
, bringing up like little bullet, little bullet, yeah little
little fucking social media orwhat the fuck for you?

or is it like a?
It's fun, I sit on it in themorning.

I'm on the toilet now on social media,
probably the one on talking bad,like scrolling through for 10
hours.
No.

Social media for me is like how the fuck how the
fuck?

Okay, okay A couple of more.

What is this?

Yeah, definitely, I think it's a what the fuck.
It's a tool for me.
Yeah, all right, bree, you'rewhat the fuck.
What the fuck we went out oforder, my bad.

No, because that that would have helped me out a
lot, because this is reallybroad.
I have a lot of what the fucks?
And I don't know to start.

So we're 21 days in, so just limit it to your
first 21 days of social mediafor the year of 2014.

What is a what the fuck?

statement 20 years, 2024.
What the god damn, my, what thefuck is.
I don't know what year it is.
You went back like 10 years forall these old toys, okay.

Let's go to Manny and then come back to me Alright
.
Manny take it.

Like I said, the what the fuck for me is?
It's a tool.
Holy shit, I can't believe thatI figured out some shit on
social media.

Okay, alright, alright, 20 days.
So we're gonna piggyback offsocial still for you.

Okay, I got one.
How the fuck did 2023 go sofast?

It did.

A whole fucking year that is.

Because, there's so much that happened in the
last year.
That is so yeah, yeah, fuck.
That is a what the fuck?
So okay.

Yeah, that's mine.

Alright, so my next what the fuck I guess I
already dove into it would bebroad again relationships.
I'm just keeping it there.
Relationships, oh yeah, andthis could be business, personal
, whatever, but for merelationships.

Yeah, definitely some.
What the fuck with thatbusiness side?

Yeah, I can tell you that Yep and we'll dive in.
We will for sure Agree.

Um, how about economy?
Yeah, that's a big.
What the fuck?

Yeah, the what the fuck we're going.
So this is an election year,right?
So we're going into an electionyear, so we're going to see a
lot of what the fuck here soon.

It's going to be a circus side show.

It's going to be fun.
Yeah, yeah, um.
Alright, I think we got enough.
What the fucks in?

I think to just kind of dive in, just a couple.

Yeah, we got a couple, so we're going to dive
in to the big meat of it.
First, Just dive in to socialmedia.
Okay, I just, I might as welljust rip the damn bandage off,
right, we're going to dive intosocial media.
So here's.
Here's my take on it.
Social media has been aroundfor you'd say what about 15?

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My space days.

I was just going to say my space?

Yeah, so my space.
I was what?
Middle school, and now I'm 35years old, so we're going to say
20.
I was still an adult.

So I'm old as fuck 2006.

And we're in 2024 right now.
So we're going to, we're goingto call it 18 years Been around
for a minute.
It's been around for almost twodecades.
Yeah, all kinds of shit.

Yeah, stories all the time.

Okay.

People doing robberies and hosting it, people
putting their lives on it.
Those are bad things, you know.

So and that, and that's the thing.
So I'm diving into social media.
Right, social media is a tool,you're right, you're absolutely
right.
It can be used for good.
It could be used for marketingbusinesses.

It could be used for.

It could even be used.
Some would say so, like when Igraduated high school, there
were a lot of people that I knewthat moved away.

So it's a good tool to use to keep in contact
and keep connected.

Oh yeah, I mean, the list goes on on the
positives.
Let's bring up some negatives.
Okay, social media, I think,has evolved over the last two
decades.
Right, it turned into bashing.
Well that, and you have more.

A lot of bullying, yes, a lot of behind the scenes
.
Yep Too afraid to say tosomebody's face or bring in like
a formal complaint.
It's all behind the screen.

See, see, and this all goes back to when I was
in school, and probably you andprobably you I was bullied as a
motherfucker.
But watch this, there wassomething that I did do.
That was great, right?
So when, when, when I was inschool, I didn't have a screen
to hide behind.
If I had to go and take care ofsomething, it's getting on the
wrong fucking bus on purpose.
Beat the shit out of thatperson and then walk in your ass

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home.

I feel like there was more consequences for your
actions than there are.

Now that is very true, I mean we have.
So we have things like what mydaughter is going through in
school right now, right,restorative practices.
So we've taken our kids andwe've pretty much taken
everything that we learned askids and we've made it worse
than better.
And what I mean by that isrestorative practices, for our

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school system takes away theteacher's abilities to kibosh
anything and now they just haveto follow it based off severity.
So, like my daughter gettingbullied, it doesn't really
matter.
They have to put a consequencein place that fits the action.
So if she's being called a fatpig or she's being her hair
pulled or whatever, they'regoing to get called in the

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office and they're going to tellthe boy or girl don't do it
again until mom shows up.

That's about it.
Don't do it again.
That's it.

That's all you get.

That's it, that's it.

See, my daughter comes home and she tells me some
boy is picking on her.
And I tell her to tell thatlittle boy, to tell his dad he's
got problems with your mom.

Hold on Stop.

Guarantee.

You know, I don't know, I'm older, I guess but
when we had problems with kidsand other just picking fights
and shit like, you had to standup for yourself, correct?
You had to take a physicalthing, you had to go up, you had
to take a lump in the eye andthen turn around and hit the
bully in the mouth.
You know how it is, though, andthen you guys are best friends
afterward.

Your kindergarten daughter comes home saying that
this boy is putting his handsaround her neck.

That's different though.

You tell this boy to tell his dad that your mom
and him got problems now.
Because obviously this guy isdoing something at home that
this little boy thinks it's okayto put hands on a girl.

You're absolutely right and he's doing it to my
daughter.

Now you got problems with me.

But, guys, that's from a mom's perspective.
I never thought of that shit.

This is the problem.
I mean, we have found theproblem with what's going on
with today's society, because Ipulled statistics and
bureaucracy and politicians Wellstatistically right now, when a
young adult turns 18, 30% ofthose kids stay living at home

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with mom and dad.
If you take that back to when Igraduated or you it was they
kick you out, it was 1716.

Yeah.

And the statistic was about 5%.
Then now we're two decades in.

So definitely a generational shift.

Correct, correct .
And parents aren't as involvedanymore because of a few things
right, one being it's expensive,fucking live it just is
Especially right now it'sexpensive, the economy isn't
doing as well.
I mean, they like to think thatthe economy is doing well, but
it is not when gas is $5 agallon and you got to drive

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everywhere Uh-huh.

Major part of your income goes to that.

I mean, you have , I'm a single parent household,
right, yeah, two parenthouseholds are both working.

I have two damn jobs.
Picking up a second job.

Yeah, yeah, you kind of have to.
Yeah, so it has to be two now.

So it's it's.
It's harder right now to raisea child or children.

What about?
Let's tie it to the socialmedia stuff.
Like you see, kids nowadayslike posting their dirt and
their garbage online and gettingcaught up.
You see that stuff.

It's funny, yeah , but you see that with, you see
that with the.

But then also like with the education part, kids
bullying kids online, but it'soutside of school so that school
doesn't do anything about it.
Right, it's the same thing asbeing an adult.
You do it online, there'snothing, there's no
repercussions.
Correct?
There's no, you know anythingabout it.
That anybody can do, that'sjust like they could say
whatever they want and everybodytake it at face value and just

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run with that.
Is that?
Is that fair too?
Just because we're in the adultworld, you can't do nothing.
You can say whatever you wantand there's no repercussions.

No, I agree with that.

No, and the bigger issue I have with it is
people are tough when they'rehiding behind a screen.
Right, I mean, I can say justabout anything I want and have
no repercussions.

I say come say it to my fucking face.
How about?

that With your chest.

And come say it to my face, I got a waiver too,
by the way I just here's.

Here's how I feel.
Like I mean, I've always been alike get the facts first person
Right.
Like you can't sit there and onsocial media just say whatever
the hell you want without havingfactual facts.
You can make assumptions allday long.
Fine, it's a free country.
Make make your assumptions, buthave some evidence.

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The last time, the last time Ichecked when you make
assumptions and you don't haveany tangible proof or evidence,
you look like a fucking idiot.
You can hurt other people'slives.
You can.

I've always been the person.
You talk shit, you get hit.
It's real simple.

I see a shirt talk shit, you get hit.

I love that shirt I see shirts on everything
.
I also want to point out thatsocial media, now more than ever
, has given like tremendousaccess, and here's what I mean
by that.
So we'll take it relationshipwise right For businesses more
access to be able to market tomore people broader and get more

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door swings.

So back in the day it was the radio station and
newspapers and magazines rightnow it's internet, you're in
control of your audience.
Yes, yes, so definitely a lotdifferent Yep Now with personal
relationships.
This is where it gets a littlehairy right Sticky, yes.

Because you have more access on social media.
Now we're talking about onlyfans.

Snapchat models all this shit.

People think that they have more options.
And now that old school way ofthinking where you have monogamy
and commitment and all thatstuff, it's out the window
because they're like well, I canjust get better anyway.
All I have to do is go onFacebook or whatever, whatever.

Just delete my messages.
I could talk to whoever I wantto at any second and it's gone.
There's no evidence.

But like, what's funny too about it is a lot of
those relationships are fuckingfake.
They're not real, they're not.
I can't go touch this person.
There's something between us.
It's fake.
It's a fake long distancebullshit relationship.

Look at the generations.
Right now, though, there is nocommitment anymore, there is no
monogamy, there is no importanceinto trying A lot of the
younger crowd it's to the pointwhere, like the two years, even
in their profession and they'redone they know everything and
move on to the next thingthere's no, like loyalty.

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I mean, here's a good one.
So, like red flag, green flag,are you ready for this?

one let's go, let's go.

Is this a red flag or green flag?
You're in a committedrelationship and you're sending
nudes to someone.

That's a green flag for me.
I was just going to say that'sa green flag.
My question would be why aren'twe marketing and selling these?

All you had to do was tell me we could just
sell.
I guess I should be a little.
Let's go into business together, I guess, I guess.

I should be Follow me on lonely fans.

Lonely.
I guess I should should be alittle more explicit, like
you're in, I understand.

I understand.

You're in a very real committed relationship and
your partner send nudes tosomeone else.
Something like that.

Like that's, that's that's like that breaks
the bond, that breaks thethere's no trust.
It breaks the trust ExactlySecurity and the relationship.
That's a fucking now if thisperson is going to be doing this
freely, then the next step iseasy.
I mean it's just, it's just Idon't know and like no one's
going to stop the other personfrom cheating Again.
It's a trust thing.

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You know what I mean?
Yeah, so like, have the fuckingballs to be trustworthy.

It's even past, like going to the extent of
sending nudes out like once.
Once that happens is alreadydone.

There's only like five nudes of me on the
internet, and I'm only five.

Only five.
There's like zero of me, butthere's five of man.

So it's mostly nipple shots for me it's an
implied nudity.

So I'm just saying, like this social media
stuff has given access to justabout everything and there is no
regulating like what to do.
Like I get it for the businessside, I get it for the good, I
get it for networking, I get itfor all of that.
But guys, there's so much morebad that needs to kind of there
needs to be consequences forsome.

I remember reading some article about how
it was my space at the time, Ithink it was, and it was right
before Facebook and they weretalking about how my space has
caused more divorces and, likeany other, that's where it
started.

That's where it started.
So it's like I don't, I don'tknow like.
Am I against social media?
No, we all use it.
Yes, I use it to market thedamn podcast.
Use it to market like tattoos.

Bree looks at a Ticker piercings all day.
Bree does print Albertpiercings.
She said I do because I do.

I mean some dark pictures.
I gotta go.
I catch her all the time, man,I catch her, it's like daily I
walk in.

I'm like god damn it, bree yeah yeah, check this
out, manny.

No, no, but we all in one way, shape or form,
have been a part of the negativeside of social media and it's
not OK and that just that kindof ties me into kind of like
relationships and stuff rightnow.
So like they come in all shapesand forms you know they do and
color.

And color they do .
Yeah, your business, yourfamily, your personal, you know
your kids' relationshipsdifferent than other, dynamic.

Everything's different you know, manny, we're
21 days into the new year, likewhat's been going on for you,
like with the business and stuffright now, what?

are you seeing what turned out to be?
What started out as a big fuckyou 24, actually turned out to
be really fun.
You know OK, I'm not going tomention any names, but our shop
recently in our small town ofFurnley Nevada, our shop me I
just got accused of robbinganother tattoo shop in town.

I don't see it.
I've never like I know you as ahuman right.
That's just not like what youwould do.
No, not what she would doeither.

The kicker why we're talking about the social
media is because this clowndecided to blast it all over
social media before getting hisfacts straight.
He got robbed in the morningand then by the midday he's
blasting out that speakeasytattoo robbed him.
That's some clown shit, rightthere, that's just some Some
specifics regarding speakeasytoo.

Yeah, yeah, it's not just like a general blanket,
but like the kids and the kids'kids, oh yeah.

They tried to come after everything and then,
within a couple days, just shutthe fuck up.
So, like I said, I got afucking waiver man, you can come
see me, you know what I mean.

It was overnight man.

It was taken down by like 1159, that same day
that it came out, and then acouple days later I had cops to
my house, cops in my shopquestioning everybody all
because some little jealous punkass, that's what it was from,
you know.

So I saw this transpire right, so I kind of
sat in the background, saw ittranspire, kind of read the
comments.
This is why I hate social media.

I didn't comment.
No, I know, I know I do notwork.

Hey, I'm going to go ahead, I'm going to go
ahead.

I'm going to go ahead and bring this full circle
.

Ok, like, I watched it in the background and
I was like well.
The first response was well, Iwasn't I invited, I'm just
kidding no because that's notwho any of us are, but, like we
all, go off families and you gorunning stuff.

Yeah, exactly, I go off four kids, it's like well
, the fuck do I want to rob thisdude man?
All I want to do is tattoo, gohome, smoke my joints, tattoo
the next day.
That's it Right.
You know?

I don't know None of his junk, none of his
garbage, and I saw the postingof what was like taken and stuff
and I was like why would Mannydo that?
He has all of that.

We have all those things.

Yeah, I got my own, plus they're fucking better
.
You know what?

I mean yeah, so like.

Like I don't it's owned out right.
I don't, I don't understandlike that right there all in
itself.
Here's where it went sidewaysand where I get pissed off right
.

This is where I get the fucking piss.

You have all the fucking idiots that chime in.
Yeah, ok, here's the fuckingdeal.
None of you and I eat, thisincludes myself even to.
None of you knew anything thatwas going on.
You just chimed in blindSpeculation.
You want to be part of someRight?
You just blindly chimed in.

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And that's not OK, because nowyou and a little ball and the
little ball bearded prick.

that set it all off.
That's the biggest problem.
Only thing big about that,fuckers, is little attitude.
That's about it.

So here I don't even come to show them here's
where?

here's where I get a little frustrated.
I get frustrated at the sensethat people don't do their
research Right.
So let's let's put some thingsto bed right now.
Let's do it.
We're in northern fuckingNevada.
So for those of you that do notknow the laws when it comes to
tattooing in northern Nevada,here they fucking are right now
and you can do your research.
Do not research Las Vegas.

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That's southern Nevada for allof us.

That's what they were doing.
Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, so that for all of you right here, let's
divv us out for a second.
We are the Republic of northernNevada.

No, we're not.
We carry guns.
Yeah, shit, kick your boots.
We are not.

Southern Nevada.

So I got boots on .
Now, I never wore fucking bootsas it stands.

As it stands right now and these two are here
to correct me, but I've done myresearch.
As it stands right now, inorder to tattoo in northern
Nevada, the only thing that youneed is your like health
inspecting license.

Bloodborne pathogen and the health
inspection.
Which is right there on thefucking wall right there.

you know, we operate under a business license
.

Correct, so this is where it gets.
You don't have to have abloodborne pathogen, god damn
right.
This is where it gets a littledifferent.
Watch this so, just like acontractor, if, if the general
contractor has his contractinglicense or hers, because we are
in 2024, him or her, ok, pretty.
John then every employee thatworks under that business and

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business license is coveredunder that general contractors
license.
So just for all of the fuckinghaters out there, just so you
know, in order to tattoo innorthern Nevada, as long as
subject A has his license,everybody underneath can tattoo

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under his license.
The only thing that everybodyneeds separately is their
bloodborne pathogen.
Yes, and the inspections fornorthern Nevada, so for all the
business license oh yeah, yeah,and a business license.
So for all the ignorant peoplethat did not do their research
first, shame on you.
Your comments are null and void.

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I'm sorry, not sorry, goodbye.

And not many of the piercers out there have an
education in the health carefield and have a CPR and first
aid certified license on top ofthat.
So if anything happens, Iautomatically know how to spot
that out.
So I know what's going on.
And that just goes along withmy 16 years of piercing
experience in a tattoo shop andeverything else that goes on Six

(28:53):
, god damn One, six.

Wait, how old are you, fuck?
I'm 31.
Don't say that 31.
Don't tell us you should.
She's like 48, 26.
She's like 40?
, 50.
No, I should have just keptfacing.

I've been piercing longer than I've not been
piercing.
Is she lying Emory?
Just so everybody knows so saywhat you just said.
The audience says no, no liesto yourself.

Emory can be the internet guy.
Like Emory, pull it up, right?

Yeah, hey, we need a fact check over here,
please, please, pull it up.
Emory, listen Absolutely.
I hope you do, so I'm going tomove on now that we got the
license thing out of the way.
So about three quarters of yourguys' comments, goodbye.
So now for the other Dismissed,dismissed.
Goodbye.
Now for the other quarter Setout.
I get it.
Everyone, everybody, has theirown preference of who they want

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to go to and you know what?
I'm OK with that.
He's OK with that.

She's OK with that Are you subjected?
Hold on, you know what's crazy.
Like, check this out.
Like this is from here.
You know what?
You know?
I don't bullshit.
Yeah, dude, I actually tried tobefriend this little fucking
dude.
We tried to like, like, likehis word, like he does actually
cool shit.
Yeah, he's just a little bitch,that's it.

I don't know what to say I can honestly say that I
did not try to befriend withanybody.
You never do that.

He's a little different.

No, I meant to go down there.
No, because I'm a legit persontoo.
I meant to go down there andsay face, because, hey, we both
peers, hey, what's up.

Befriend dude, I did.

And I dropped the ball because I was extremely
fucking pregnant and thehigh-risk pregnancy I was going
through some shit of my own.
She saw me, said what's up, Idon't know who.
This is OK.
We talked.
I ran into her like three othertimes I could never remember
who she was and she alwaysrecognized me and I'm like oh
hey, who the fuck was that?
I'm like ah, and I kept havingto think of who she was, because

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I could not remember thisperson and I felt bad because I
see so many people and I'm sobusy I'm like that was maybe a
client and then I'm like no,that was the other piercing.

That's the other piercing place, so she felt like
you might have brushed her off.

I think maybe she thought we were closer than what
we was, but the first thing shedid was talk shit about my boss
.
To me and I'm loyal as amotherfucker I'm like I don't
know what you saw, but that'snot me.

I never talked shit, I never said nothing, I
never did threaten nothing and Inever would have.

Yeah, Nothing.
So I have nothing againstpeople having their loyalties.
I have my loyalties whether itbe where.
It's a good thing, man, it's agood thing, yeah whether it be
where I get tattooed, whether itbe what I eat.

Who's your fucking friend at that?
Like loyalty goes a long way,yeah.

So I'm not hating on anybody who made
comments just based off ofloyalty.
However, this all goes back todo your fucking research, so you
don't sound ignorant as hell,because I'm sorry.
Out of all the comments onthere, not one of those
motherfucking comments soundedsmart at all None of them.
I'm sorry.
So that's everyone.

So Except for the ones that are like oh, we
reached out, they opened it,didn't get back to us.
Everybody in the shop hasaccess to our face page and
we've gone through so manyartists Some of the people that
had access opened it and then wedidn't see it.
The actual artist didn't see it.
They left.
We didn't see it because it wasalready red.
So the only people that had anyjust in that was like oh, I

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messaged, the owner saw it.
The owner didn't see it.
It was anybody in the shop thathad access to it had seen it
opened.
It didn't respond to it.
Past that, you still didn'tknow what the fuck you're
talking about.

So I still stand by my statement.
That's everyone else.
With that being said, though,let's be realistic for a second.
Here we live in a small damntown.

Yeah, we do.
We're just tiny as fuck.

We just do so, everybody's going to know
everything one way, shape orform.

I'm small town famous.
Yeah, just so everybody knows.

So you know you want to make me the fucking bad
guy.
Guess what?
I'll be the bad guy and youknow what?
It's been a spiking business.
So social media would turn outto be negative, which initially
I was like fuck, here we go.
You know we put out some satire, some bullshit, some videos,
some shit talking.
But it wasn't really shittalking, exactly.
And I know they got the cluebecause they shut the fuck up

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real quick.

We laughed off a serious situation.

We laughed it off , you know.

Instead of us going out and like accusing and
rebuttal and all the shit thatcould have happened we stacked
our chips.
We laughed it off and we'relike, hey, you know no big
fucking deal, Whatever, We'lldeal with the cops.
We'll say this whatever Laughedit off, made some posts that
were relevant to the situation,but then were the fucking
assholes the half ass apology.

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That was acceptable, but nowwe're fucking assholes just for
making a serious situationserious.

We're going to get into the apology part
because I do want to addressthat Like.

I really do like an half ass, apology I just want
to address it from a businessperspective.

We will get into that.

OK, you take that Because my words aren't nice.

No, I will address that from my perspective
, which is outside of everything.

A neutral party.

Before we address that, I want to put to
bed a couple things.
So the first thing, foremost,is we live in a small town.
These businesses, these allthese small businesses here,
they're all struggling, ok, likewe all are struggling here
because of said economy.
Yeah.
So I just want everybody toknow, like for everyone that

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supports all the smallbusinesses, all of them, every
last one of them, gas stationyeah, I don't care, if they're
good Everyone had whatever like.
Thank you for supporting ourtown.

Yes, because that thank you.

That goes a long way and that, for those of you
that know, that's like thebloodline of our town.
So thank you for that.
Thank you so very much.
Thank you for the loyalty, thesupport, all of that stuff.
We would not thrive withouthaving people to support.

I want to add to that too, and the people outside
of Fernley from the neighboringtowns and cities.
Thank you, too, for traveling.
I know it.
I know it's a lot of nothing todrive through Nevada.
And thank you for coming outhere and getting tattooed by us
and our crew, getting pierced byBree.
We really appreciate it.

Yeah, and for my 15,000 followers just not
trying to brag or anything, thatis global.
Just in case anyone wants tothrow shit my way or throw dirt
for my 15,000 people thatalready know who I am.
Thank you for supporting me.
So anybody that wants to throwshade my way, go for it, because

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I have about 15,000 people thatwill throw it the opposite.

That brings up an interesting point to me too,
because social media, again,it's a motherfucker, because
whether you hate it or like thecontent, when you click on it,
guess what?

Positive it's positive.

It's a positive click.
So good job and thank you.
I appreciate you guys.

So attention is still attention.

So, for all of the people that are in Australia
, I love you guys.
All the people that are inEngland good, I have a lot of
England people.
I love y'all.
All my Canadians, I love y'all.

And then you have any cockney speaking fans from.

No no, no.

Damn dude, I love cockney.
Yes, I was going to be likethat's tight and then most
importantly, which is my home toeverybody in the US.

I appreciate it.
I know it's been far too long.
I mean, I'm a podcast with twodamn awards.
Let's go like throw it my way,because guess what Quit dying
dude I know.
All I have to say is my podcastis making it right, so whatever
like let's have fun.
Still doing it, it's artisticability and it's the drive with

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it.
So I just want to thankeverybody and then, like zoning
it back into the home, dirtfirmly like thank you for
everything that you do for thesmall businesses.
I hope that we continue tosupport the small businesses,
but in a positive manner, youknow we had so many people that
were positive.

I ran into people on the store.

Yes, we do Dispensaries local places.

People came in the shop personally to pay their
respects.

It was awesome to see you, dude.
What's?

going on.
I know this isn't true and thatthat made a fucking big deal
out of like, oh my God, what thefuck is this out of?
Fucking nowhere?
And then so many people didshow up.

I got warm, tingly feelings when people came
in and said I don't believe it.

Yes, and it was and so many people laughed about
it.
I'm like what the fuck is this?
And we're like you don't knoweither.
I don't know.

I just want to point out that many gets warm,
tingly feelings all the fuckingtime, all the time 24 seven.

Yeah, and I'm a hugger.

Right, I'm a hugger.

Anyway, Dustin was just too far and we're
getting out.

Air hug.

So I just here's the deal, like whoever you
support it doesn't, it doesn'tmatter.

It doesn't matter .

Support them, it's a small business, yeah like
, we want everybody to besuccessful, because you know
what that's going to just makeour town bigger.

Yes.

All right, but here's the deal.
Let's, let's just play a tinybit of logic into this.
Right now, how many tattooshops are there in firmly right
now?
There's four of them.

Name them out.
We have Speak Easy, we haveTats and Flats, we have elevated
arts and then we have PurpleOrchid.

Ok, so we have four.
And that's not the people thatare not operating in a shop with
a license, correct, correct.
So we're not saying that.

Yeah, we have four legit established legit
brick and mortar.
Yes, tattoo businesses.

Storefront.
All of you can come in and sitdown.

Here is the biggest.
Here's the biggest question I'mgoing to propose to everyone to
think about on their own, andthey can comment on any one of
our socials later.
The biggest thing I'm going topropose is why do you not see
any other issues between any ofthe other ones?
I'm going to just leave it atthat.
Do not comment.
You don't need to.
Do not comment, you don't needto.
I'm going to just leave it atthat.

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Like, why is it that there's anissue between one versus the
other but none of the other ones?
Leave it at that.

OK, what do you mean?
One versus the other?
So the one is friends with theothers?

No, I'm saying like what's happened in the last
21 days, right, we haven't seenthat with any of the other ones
.

Well, what I want to say?
That I can't do anything elsebecause I can't keep my
motherfucking mouth shut.
Motherfucker.
We do help other other smallbusinesses and other tattoo
shops.
That's all I have to say aboutit.

We refer to the other shots.

La Fiesta burned down.
We partnered up with anothershop, we donated the entire day
tips, everything, everythingwent to the same time you want
to hear something funny.

Somebody was asked and didn't want to help.
I don't know who that was.
Neither, that's a funny thing.
You talk about your communityand support.

Immunity is the keyword.

So, one community guys, One team, one
dream.

One team one dream so I know if my house is on
fire.
I want my neighbor to call thefucking cops the fire department
.

I want one team, one dream for a man's like four
plans.

I get it.

If I were your neighbor, I'd probably you are
my neighbor, dude.
Sit down, that's right, goddamn it.

If I was your neighbor, if I was your neighbor
out of been calling on you.

But it's serious, you know.

Um no, I just, I just want everybody to just
like fucking chill, Daddy chill,Like you know like what the
fuck ever like chill.
Like understand, like shithappens right, like we
unfortunately were in the middleof that right.
Well, I wasn't, they were.
So I wasn't in the middle of it.

Yeah, I was on the front page, Reasonably.

we're in the middle of it, but all three of
us here do empathize with whatdid happen and we hope that
whatever happened like it getsresolved, and we're going to
leave that to the policeofficers.

I'm glad it wasn't our shit.
Yeah that's all I got to saybecause it could have easily
been us.
It could have easily beeneasily.

So, with that being said, there's there has
been a string of littlerobberies in our town for the
past.
I think he said the monththat's what I was informed of.

I think they said five, I think he said five total
since early January.

So basically, homeboy just pinned them all on
me.

That's what he did Right, exactly by throwing
my name in there.

He accused me of all these different robberies.
And that's some punk shit.

So this is where we bring it full circle.
Do you fucking research.
Be logical and don't point thefucking finger.

That's it.

Pretty simple.

That's it.
Like, don't be stupid, yeah,okay, you're only making it
worse for you.

Yep, that's it.
That's it.
I can tell you was going to geta whole lot worse, yeah.

Yeah, I just again.
I hope that everything getstaken care of in hash Hours for
me.
Well, no, but I do hope there'slegal repercussions to the
things you do.
Yeah, yeah.

Like we're not, we're not onthat thug shit.


We're sitting behind the keyboards and stuff
like I don't have to go knock onyour fucking door and make a
statement, you just write itdown at the local police
department and you have all theevidence that you have and then
they're screwed because they youcan't talk out of line on
things that you don't know about.
Is defamation, that slander,that's libel.

Those are all the things.
It's not freedom of speech.

That is not when it impacts and impedes a
business and cops are showing upand artists are having to stop
and go and talk to the copsoutside.

That's what it comes to work, dude.
What kind of shit is that?

Artistic ability and freedom of speech is what
we're doing right now.
We're not pointing any fingersright now, we're just voicing
what the right way to do thingsis.

The things I'm saying fit the bill and you're a
rat, then that's you.
I mean it fits the bill andwhere to outfit man.

We're way different in 2024 than we were
back in the 50s.
Right Like I, I miss the oldschool, like gentlemen, gentle
lady.

Like hey, you know what?

I still hold a fucking door open for men, women
and children when I come in andout of places.
Yeah, yeah.

So, I still help old ladies with groceries If
they look at me funny because Ilook mean, but you know they're
like no, don't rob me, I'm like,I'm here to help you.

This is more expensive than your groceries.

What are you?

talking about.

Yeah, I just it baffles my mind.
We're 21 days in and all thedrama like we're not drama
people.
So let's, let's like, moveforward, let's move forward,
let's move on.
Whatever dislikes anybody hasof anybody like, I don't fucking
care, it's a business, we'rerunning a business, that's it.
I don't fucking care.
If you don't like me, go cryabout it in your nobody likes me

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See.

I still get business because I'm good at
what I do.

If he was smart.
Don't come talk to the business, come talk to me in person.
But you ain't smart.

I mean that would.
That's the difference between1950 and now.
You would go and talk to thedamn business and squash it.
But no, instead we have to makestatements like boy stalking or
driving around or cutting linesor whatever, like he did.
He did try to stalk me it wasfunny, it was funny.
I mean, I listen, I read allthe comments and I just think

(43:35):
it's all childish.

I didn't read shit.
I didn't read none of thecomments.

I was invested.

I didn't I mean nothing else.

Too busy making artwork, man.
You're too busy making moneyToo busy making money, yeah, to
pay attention to single day off.
Everything I'm talking abouthappened directly to me.
All this other shit, it'shearsay to me, you know
everybody is entitled to anopinion.

Everybody's entitled to an, everybody.
Here's where it's going to geta little money.
Whether it's right or wrong isa different story.
You can have your opinions, gofor it, but guess what?
You better back it up.

if you think you're right, fucking right in
the era of Google, you betterback that shit up in the cloud
in the cloud in the cloud.

See you.
Walmart is on site, though, youknow so out of the fucker in
that place.

This leads me to something else that I read that
I kind of want to like I wash,I want to.
Jeff's not here.

OK, but.

I want to say we got someone new with speak easy
.

What she said who the fuck is Jeff?
That's what she just asked.
He's all who the fuck is, soyou might have to tell her who
Jeff is.
You don't know who Jeff is.

I don't know who the fuck Jeff is.
Do you know who Jeff is?

I feel like I've heard the name, but you have to
you?

don't know either.

Break me in because I'm lost to get a smoke
to joint.
Come on, Run me by hey maybe Igot the name wrong.

Jeff, jeff, who fucks.
Jeff, who do you apprentice?

As Joey I was going to say Jeff Joey.

I started the.
He fucked you up, joey, he justfucked you up when you see him,
when you see him handle it.

It wasn't me.
I knew his name.

He said, Jeff, I was a little fuck is.

Jeff, no, I was like no, no, no, no.

Joey, man, joey, we're going to edit that out.

No, we're not.
No, we are going to keep thatin there, because I, she's all
who?

the fuck is, jeff .
I knew your name.
She whispered it to me that.

No, so we did add someone new on who is doing
awesome work, and something thatcame up and in in all of this
was the fact that the shop, thisshop specifically doesn't take
the time to help people that arenew out.
I'm sorry in advance if youguys felt that was one of you.

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That isn't what was intended.
Based off of my discussionswith Manny, based off of my
discussions with Abel, based offmy discussions with Brie, if
that's how you felt, we aresorry, but guess what, that
isn't what it is, and so I wasgoing to give Manny the stage to
actually clear a couple thingsup on.
What does having an apprenticelook like?

(46:12):
How does that look for?
Like a customer that walks in?
Do you announce it, do you?

hide it Like what ?
How does it?
So an apprentice is trying tomake their stripes, they have to
do a lot of training and somestuff on the side before they
even get, you know, get to theneedle phase.
But then when they come in andthey're trying to earn their
stripes, you tell people hey, Ihave an apprentice, you know
like, it's your choice, it's upto you.
And they have to sign a waiverwith the person's name on it and
everything.

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So you know, like there's nohiding it.
So all of that is nonsense.
Ok, you know all of that isnonsense.
It's not fair to customers tohide that, to be like oh yeah, I
got a great tattoo artist andthey're like six months in.
You know, I can tell you Joeyhas done a formal apprenticeship
.
Joey comes from, I'm not gonnasay where.

(46:59):
He comes from an area.

Across the border.
I mean listen, wow Listen, Icame from the state line the
state line.

She pulled your beard.

I came from there too, but listen.

I'm a fucking Fertuckian now.
Man, I love this place.
I can't lie, I hate where Icame from.
I love this place here and Ithink Joey's feeling the same,
but he does some amazingtraditional work.
So if you guys wanna see somecool shit, come see him.
American tradition he rocks atit.
And hand-painted artwork, oh mygod, which is very impressive

(47:32):
to me.

It's so cool.

He's handing it out to some of the businesses
out here that he's been drawingfor the last two weeks.

Yeah that's awesome, cool.
So some good positive moves,guys, happening out of here.
One more positive that I wannabring up because I wanna make
sure we're thorough.
Right, we're gonna run somespecials out of.

Speakeasy.
Oh yeah, we have been runningthem, but please tune in.
We run them.
It's Friday, saturday usually.
When we do it, we're trying todo more of a once a month type
sale and we're looking intogetting some cool merchandise.
So stay tuned.
Oh, and I wrote a book.
He did.
I wrote a children's book.

Very impressive.

More to come on the book.
We will have a separateinterview on the book.

I'm gonna have some for sale.
My auction's some off too.
It's hella funny man.
I'm buying one, I'll gift youone.

I also wanna spotlight something.
My arm is in fucking pain, butthis was done with a
non-licensed person right nextto me.
Non-licensed, non-licensedperson, and it turned out Anubi
never done it.

This is my first tattoo in my life, right here,
this thing first time Turned outphenomenal.

It's amazing.
I literally sat down forprobably about five 10 minutes
to discuss what we wanted to doand this is what came of it, and
it was great.
So I just want you all to knowthere's a lot of good stuff
coming out of here Promo's.
Take a look at that.
What do we got in the piercingworld?
I'm not good with those.

So that's all you I was just gonna say, and I'm
funny.

She thinks she's funny.

I am funny, I'm funny, I'm funny.

What we got on piercing is we are once a month
sale, once a month sale.
We're gonna be doing adiscounted rate I'm not gonna
say what yet or some kind ofspecial gear towards piercing
and tattooing, whether it beflash or even custom pieces that
we're working on the market.
We're gonna try to discountthem just to get more out.
We've been pretty busy but, wejust want to move.

And then stay tuned for some updates on the
website.
So remember, go towwwspeak-easy-tatco that's
T-A-T-T-C-Ocom and take a lookat the portfolios that are there
.

We're gonna update the website to make sure
oh, revamp, yeah, we gottarevamp this, yes.

I've been waiting on the owner to do a few
things, oh shit.

I don't wanna hear shit.

More to come on that.
We all have a YouTube that isgoing to be posting here soon
too, where we can actuallyinclude you all on some of the
journeys of some of thesetattoos.
I probably am gonna post somethings from each one of them and
there's a surprise videothat'll be posted soon.

Yes, thank you.
Oh yeah, we got a cool one.
It's a cool one.

Soon we are making edits on it, so soon.
I know the hype is there.

Listen, it's not for the faint of heart.
I'll tell you that it's not.
No, no.

Only real piercers , do it.

Yeah, it's true, yeah, real reels.

It's like a club, yeah, yeah.

It's a fight club.
You don't talk about it.

It's first real fight club.
I know a piercer that knows apiercer.

Hey, what's the first real fight club?
Don't talk about a fight club.
Don't talk about a fight club.

So, yeah, some good things coming out.
I want you all to know that inmy world.
So we'll shift gears a littlebit.
Still going on my journey, guys, still trying to kind of
artistically figure out where Iwant the podcast to head for
2024.
I think we'll run some limitedseries, more than likely
partnership with here,partnership with another

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business that's happening, sodoing some Another cool one
coming down the pipeline.
Yes, and that again, we willprobably do some community
events as well too, because Ithink that will be a big deal.
And I just getting back to thebasics of who I am Like the
price is right.

Man, spend new to your cats and dogs and we
should do a fundraiser for them.
I agree.

You know what just came up in my head when you
said the price is right, thathappy Gilmore scene.
The price is wrong bitch.

Every says, I wouldn't that game.

But no, I'm just dealing with me right, Like I'm
trying here to not let myartistic flame extinguish you
know what, though, that's a hardplace, because it does do it.

Sometimes, when it does, then you have to find a
new muse dude.

Yeah, so this has been my artistic flame for
the last two, three years.

I can tell you that the shit that happened
recently, over the past week,has sparked some major fucking
creativity for me, man.
Like I'm up.
I have literally been up at 3and 3 30 in the morning every
day this week working onmaterial drawing, coming up with
story lines for my book Allkinds of children's book, Just
in case you didn't get it thefirst three times.

It's a children's book.
We'll make it colorable too.

Yes, yes, it'll be colorable, but it has sparked
creativity, man, and, like Itold, you, the other day is.
It's like hitting streaks andrallies.
Man, it feeds, everyone canfeed off it.
You know, I definitely see thisone is her ideas.
Like all of a sudden it's likehey, manny, you know, and you've
been like that too.
Like, hey, what if this, youknow, it's just kind of like

(52:44):
Yours and my ideas are like inthe works, right.

So, like throughout this whole year,
you're going to see a shift.
I think this year for thepodcast, just so you all know,
is going to be like finding thatfucking niche that works.
Okay, it's still going to bebusiness, but there's going to
be more substance to it.
I think it's going to be morecontent yeah, yeah Down the
pipeline.

Merchandise, like I said, all kind of goods.

I think for me my biggest win is just the
partnership with the smallbusinesses and stuff.
I think that's where my talentis and that's what this median
is for.
So more to come on that withspeak easy.
Please be on the lookout on thewebsite and on the socials for
the deals and the flashes.
I have some ideas that aregoing through to them.

So more to come on that, if you don't know the
story, go on to Instagram andcheck out the cool little videos
.

Yes, and whatever conclusions you draw
from those videos are your,yours, not ours.

So I work seven days a week, so anytime you want
to stop on in, I'm usually here, and if I'm not, email me,
because I'll get down here intwo seconds.

You mean every day?
We have a piercer in this townthat's actually open fucking
every day.

Oh shit, I'm getting exhausted.
I'm going to caveat.
I'm going to caveat that youknow I did.

Hey, I'm going to caveat that, though, with the
fact that, like you all got tobe patient.
Like she has kids, ok, like sheain't going to be coming down
here, like, hey, I got to callyou now.

No, I don't have two minutes down the street.
You know what?

She does come in at some weird ass times to
accommodate customers becausethey have weird, weird hours.

I get it but like I've seen some of the post
guys like let's be reasonablehere.

Let's get good to me, I'm good to you, that's all
that matters.

I'm terrible to her, and so she went hard on
this.

I did.
It's really hard.
You can fuck yourself, go allthat blood in there.

I know I was horrible.

Oh, my arm Cut it off.

I'm going to snag it.
I know I forgot to say it too.

But no, I want you all to be on the lookout.
More to come.
Yes, we are going to have a newexciting business coming here
soon and I'm excited, superexcited, to announce that one.

We will soon enough, you know what I'm still
chirping off of is why my greenhat is black.

So, for those of , for those of you that don't
know, we are a professionalpodcast, so we have a green
screen.
We have lighting, we haveeverything, so his we got props
His his bus.

Look at half of my shirts missing.
I'm looking at the screen likemy logo is missing.

What the heck, it's just Burglar eyes.

Oh, it's burglar eyes.
Watch it, my studio.

From the bush.
Sorry guys, anyway, sorry Guys.

I don't know what the fuck just happened, but
it just Anyway, I need a minute.
Anyway, I'm really excited thatwe introduced Jeff.
I mean Joey, joey, kick him inthe nuts when you see him.
Joey, I love you.
Buddy Fuck is Jeff.

I love that that was awesome and I even read it
on the notes.
So I was like I saw Jeff and Iwas like, oh, maybe it's like
advertising.

Right.

Maybe, maybe he's advertising.

a friend, it's fucking Joey.

He was there yesterday with you I hate you
guys, whatever.

Hey, listen, I'm not perfect, all right, so
let's just whatever we'rekeeping that anyway.
Biggest takeaways today, justso we zone in on everything is
Do you have to pick up.
Oh, I'm going to.
So I'm going to bring this upprofessionally, sorry.
Zip it Biggest, biggesttakeaways today are Do your

(56:17):
research.
Please Don't point fingersunless you absolutely are
certain, because there arerepercussions.
You may not have seen them yet,but there will be and there are
always.
It doesn't matter, there arerepercussions to everything.
So please do your research.
Try to use social mediaresponsibly.
Yeah, for every buddy thatchimes in like, do your thing.

(56:41):
I mean freedom of speech.
Right, but just know that, like, if you're not trying to sound
ignorant, if you're not tryingto sound like a dummy.
Yeah, like, just if you'retrying to be educated and
intelligent about it, do yourresearch please, because slander
is very real, defamation ofcharacters very real and it's.
It's just, it's not an OK thing, right?

(57:03):
Like you don't see me slanderin everyone.
You don't see half the peoplethat have businesses here
slander in anyone, because weall care about the businesses.
So do your research.
And lastly and this is where itbrings it full circle If you're
wrong, and it's you're wrong.
Apologize.
So let's, let's just dive intoit.

(57:24):
I read the apology.
I read it If you want to callit.

I can reread it if you want Just the apology
part.
No, I'm not.
I'll leave the names out.

No, we're good, I'm going to address this.

Unfortunately.

I'm going to address this.
Ok, yeah, we, I read it.
I'm not going to call it anapology, because it was a long
drawn out story of pointing thefinger still, and then a little
tiny snippet that shows that youdon't really even care about
the apology part.
Ok, here's the deal.
You're wrong, that's it.

(57:58):
You're wrong, that's it, you'rewrong.

You brought families into it also that had
nothing to do with that.
You brought artists into itthat have no affiliation with
the shop other than just comingin, two weeks ago.

So many, so many things.

An artist has been here for a year and a half.
That is quiet and it's stilllike under the blanket of
speakeasy, and then speakeasy'sfamilies also were brought into
it.

But the funny thing is he did it with the
intent to think he's gonna harm.
That's the best part, and all Ido is backfire.

That's the funny thing If that's fired up being a
mom, though that's still here'sthe deal don't bring my
significant other into it.
Don't bring, don't bringchildren into it that I refer to
as children like 21, 22, 23, 24.

That's a child to me high school kids
Absolutely.

That's unacceptable.

Here's.
Here's the deal.
I don't Care, like I don't care, that all that shit happened,
right?
I don't care, I do and I don'tright, I wish.

I get what you mean I wish it didn't happen,
because that's unfortunate.
Bullshit aside, yeah, that'swhat we're left with, yeah
that's.

It's unfortunate that this happened.
Okay, and I hope to god that,like you, guys are good,
families good, everything's allright.
My kid goes school with yourkid, all right.
So I know you.
Here's the deal.
If you're gonna apologize, manup, woman up, apologize.
Hey, dude, I don't like you,but I was wrong.

(59:21):
Okay, like cuz, that's gonna goa long way.
Anyway, like we all know, youdon't like them.
You made it clear.
But here's the deal.
You were wrong.
Be so, be professional andHappen.
Sign the waiver right.
Like.
Here's the deal.
Like, let's not be trashy, likeFirmly already has enough of a
reputation of being trashy.

(59:42):
We're not a trashy little town,we're a good town.

So firmly don't need rats when people snitching
on everything, we just don'tneed it.

We need to come together in a time like now and
we need to do the right things.
That's it.
Do the fucking right thing youobviously have a clientele base.

We have a clientele base.
Don't try and muddy up what wegot by false accusations.
It's just, it's ridiculous.
So keep yours, we'll keep ours.

Manny Midkiff (01:00:08):
Do your tattoos your three times a month and
then go home.

Dustin Steffey (01:00:11):
I Listen, I don't know anything that y'all
do I I know more about thisbusiness because I'm invested in
this business, but what I doknow is how to run a business
appropriately.
In the way that you handlethings was not appropriate and
it inconvenienced a lot ofpeople, not only the businesses,
but how about our officers thatare confused your resources,
your local resources, on a, youknow, dealing with crap, you

(01:00:35):
know, and they can be doingsomething else.
Yep.

Bree Jackson (01:00:37):
They could have already had a lead by now if
they weren't misguided.

Yeah by being directed to towards us, that's
right and Lastly, the last thingI'm going to bring up is, again
something you brought up don'tinvolve family, don't involve
kids, don't involve like anyone.
If you all have an argumentLike, you all go fight, club it
out somewhere else, like, butdon't involve the families,
because I'm pretty certain ifyour family was involved, like

(01:01:03):
your guys is the same, you guyswould feel the Same way.
Keep the kids out of it.
Keep names out of your mouth.
Significant others like, justlike, just if you have an issue.
If you, if you have an issue,deal with it, deal with it, man,
deal with it at any point intime.
I mean, that's, that's all Ihave.
Like I I don't know how Moreprofessional to say it like

(01:01:26):
nobody wants to hear this like.
So let's, let's move forward.
Uh, that being said, closingremarks I, I want to give you
Like an opportunity just to kindof, if you want to go through
Some things that you want to dogoing into the new year, what
what we're thinking about forthe community, maybe a little

(01:01:47):
bit stuff like that, and then Iwanted to kind of revert to you
as well, too, for your piercingside and stuff, and then I'll
close this out like I had kindof mentioned man, I love animals
, I love cats, I love dogs, Ieven like birds.

Some people don't like them, I like birds.
But like I've been involved inthe veterinary side for my whole
life, you know, with the familyand everything you know, I want
to give back to it.
I know there's people whostruggle to take care of their
animals.
Get them spayed, get them fixed.
We don't need more runningaround.
You know, one guy hit the otherday right down the street from

(01:02:21):
the shop.

I was in the we tried to save him.

Dude, yes, I was in the vehicle and he died later
.

Somebody hit him dude.
So like that kind of stuff, youknow, like man, that bothers me
, you know, and I want to beable to like help and if
somebody can't, afford it.
Maybe there's a little fun thatcan help them.
You know, and we've talked to,the.

We're gonna be doing some community events here
soon, so keep looking at thewebsite, dude, I want to.

I'm going on merchandise.
Like you know, I really want tohave some cool merchandise is
in the works.
We're, we're getting there.
And then, of course, contentman and cool tattoos.
We got.

We got content to lork.
I'm excited.
Brie piercing side.

Um, one more thing .
On that one, I know me andanother um Participant are going
to be working together to alsogive back to the community in a
different way.
Um, community service gettingin with other things that like
Events or programs that they gotgoing on.
We're still looking into to seewhich ones that we want to
apply and get into.

(01:03:16):
But that's going to also begoing on.
It's going to be a differentway because, you know, the
public stresses me the fuck out,not because I'm a certain way,
just because I have a horriblesocial anxiety, and that's
something I've struggled with myentire fucking life.
But, um, I'm, I'm a good personat heart and I will always be
that.
But you fuck around, that'sjust what you get.
Do like I'm very blunt and stuff, but, um, the piercing side of

(01:03:40):
it I give, I give back, I'm amom first, I'm a mom first
before anything else.
So take that into considerationalso with all the bullshit that
goes on.
Um, piercing side, I want to dolike a, a sale once, once a day
, one day a month, just somekind of discounted special.
We have titanium jewelry, we'reconstantly buying new stuff,

(01:04:03):
we've got an anodizer, we canchange colors, we do custom
orders and everything like that.
So if you have certain sizegauge, a diameter, type of
jewelry, something that you'relooking for, we want to get that
in there.

So and more custom your ear curations like
your body period.

That's what.
That's what I won first placeon best piercing in Arizona out
of state First time I've everbeen out of state to a
convention, to, and I won firstplace for that.
So that's like a huge, hugething for me.
So, uh, we're definitelyworking on that.
We're going to revamp a bunchof stuff.
We're going to get a special,get a bunch of um our inventory.
We've we've had and we built uptrying to move out to get all

(01:04:40):
the new stuff back in so we cankeep um the rotation of uh, what
, what, what the community wantsnew things, new stuff coming
out.
Every year there's a new, brandnew piercing that's coming out.
Something, yeah, yep.

You gotta, they gotta, start asking you about
debris, the piercing.

In closing, I just wanted to thank everybody
for listening, welcome us backand, uh, thank you to Manny.
Thank you to brie for beingspecial co-hosts for the the end
of the year episode, right, uh,there's a lot more to come down
the pipeline.
I'm excited to get to it assoon as I can and give you guys

(01:05:23):
more of that quality contentthat you all were looking for.
So, again, I appreciate both ofyou.
Thank you for coming on Again.
Speak easy tattoo.
If you haven't seen any oftheir work, head on over to the
website, wwwspeak easy tat cothat's tat c o dot com and give

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them a look at their work andgive them a phone call and
schedule your next appointment.
With that being said, we aredone.
Thank you all, and I will seeyou all on the other side.
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