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May 18, 2025 165 mins

(EDITOR NOTE - This episode was filmed on 02/19/25. Tragically, on 04/20/25, guest Christian Gribneau died unexpectedly.)


After a 3-part series on the diversity of the Jewish population, Boaz Hepner spoke to a panel of Wikipedia experts. A wide array of investigative journalists, Wikipedia editors, and more, this conversation was about the assumed role of Wikipedia's neutrality, and how far it appears to have veered from that path. Especially when analyzed by its stance on the Israel/Palestinian conflict, and Zionism.


Panelists:

-- Dr. Shlomit Aharoni Lir – University of Haifa

-- Aaron Bandler – Jewish Journal

-- Yfat Barak-Cheney – World Jewish Congress

-- Jordan Cope – StandWithUs

-- Christian Gribneau – Justapedia Foundation

-- Mathilda Heller – The Jerusalem Post

-- Ohad Merlin – The Jerusalem Post

-- David Swindle – The Algemeiner

-- Jonathan M Weiss – Wikipedia Editor

-- Betty Wills – Justapedia Foundation

-- David Wiseman – Online Reputation Expert


Chapters:


3:27 – Bios

11:43 – Boaz reads listener-Wikipedia exchange

17:57 – Jonathan on current editing activity

19:26 – Jordan asks about left-right balance

22:55 – Dr. Shlomit expands on Hamas coverage

25:45 – Wikipedia vs Al Jazeera?

27:57 – Consensus sources explained

29:05 – Is JPost a “trusted” source?

35:48 – When did bias begin?

39:01 – David on his investigations

40:21 – Dr. Shlomit: pre/post-October 7

53:41 – Ohad gives Eurovision example

55:08 – Jordan on legal liability

56:40 – Betty on lawsuits

58:27 – Anonymity and accountability

1:02:01 – Mathilda replies

1:03:13 – Betty on Wikipedia's monopoly

1:03:55 – Dr. Shlomit: sue Google, not Wikipedia

1:05:15 – David: no clear solution

1:07:24 – Betty on Justapedia as alternative

1:10:27 – Aaron clarifies Section 230

1:13:29 – Yfat: “train has left the station”

1:15:51 – Christian offers optimism

1:17:51 – Break

1:18:23 – Return

1:18:52 – Bible as a source?

1:19:38 – Aaron on the Wikipedia "Blacklist"

1:21:42 – David replies

1:22:26 – Arabic Wikipedia discussion

1:23:47 – Banners since Oct 7

1:25:30 – Day 1 confirmation

1:26:54 – Jordan: recent changes

1:28:10 – Betty on school radicalization

1:30:30 – Farewell to Jordan

1:31:02 – Wikipedia as a movement

1:33:44 – Wikipedia vs UNRWA

1:35:19 – Fixing Wikipedia?

1:36:10 – Christian on article visibility

1:39:12 – Yfat: digital literacy

1:41:39 – Risks of AI as solution?

1:43:15 – Betty: Wikipedia mirrors media

1:44:26 – Jon: Wikipedia reflects public bias

1:45:08 – Did Wikipedia change over time?

1:46:40 – David on antisemitism's rise

1:47:27 – Betty on universities

1:47:52 – Wikipedia-critical article downgraded

1:49:52 – Mathilda on editor bans

1:53:20 – Aaron responds

1:56:19 – Boaz summarizes

1:58:42 – Are foreign actors involved?

2:03:03 – Can editors be less anonymous?

2:05:07 – Shlomit: anonymity = no accountability

2:08:20 – David explains “sock/meat puppets”

2:09:42 – Jon replies

2:10:20 – Canvassing on Wikipedia

2:11:07 – Jon elaborates

2:12:13 – Yfat replies

2:13:50 – Boaz lightens the mood

2:14:32 – Final thoughts: How do we fix bias?


Final Answers:

2:16:03 – Ohad

2:19:17 – David Wiseman

2:21:07 – Mathilda

2:23:18 – David Swindle

2:24:47 – Christian

2:27:32 – Betty

2:29:53 – Jon

2:32:13 – Yfat

2:33:18 – Dr. Shlomit

2:37:54 – Aaron

2:40:49 – Boaz's final thoughts

2:44:48 – Goodnight​


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