June 6, 2025 • 47 mins
Ever wake up in the morning with a song in your head or your heart and you have no idea why it's there? Talk about that unbidden song you encountered. Why do you think it popped into your mind and stuck with you? It might be a hymn or a worship song, or it could be some pop tune you heard as a child. The song in your head—hear the musical conversation on Chris Fabry Live.
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S1 (00:07):
Am I the only one? Does this only happen to me,
or have you experienced the unbidden song that pops into
your head? Today on Chris Fabry Live, come on over
to my musical radio backyard fence, and let's talk about
the song in your head. When you woke up one morning,
you were thinking about the lyrics. You were hearing the tune. Perhaps.
Maybe a classical song or a hymn or worship song,
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or a country tune or pop tune from your childhood.
Doesn't matter what the song was. I want to know
what was the song. Tell me the name and why
you think it bubbled up from your subconscious. Let's talk
about your life's random playlist today. Maybe this theme song
is playing in your mind. It does mine Saturday and
Sunday at this time. I will hear it and rush
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to the studio. And today I'm here. Let me thank
our team assembled. Chris Siegert is engineering today. Trisha is
our producer. Lisa is in the chair. I believe Rihanna
is answering your calls today. And since it's Friday. That's right.
It's time for the fabulous favorite Friday. Sigh. Here's what
it does one. We oxygenate your blood. Two we get
your endorphins going. Three we raise your serotonin level. Four
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we promote lymphatic drainage. And five we stimulate your parasympathetic system.
That's why we call it the five love languages. We
also stimulate your vagus nerve. We help you release acetylcholine.
And don't you dare forget what it does to cortisol dissipation.
Taking four seconds of air through your nose right now.
Hold it for seconds, and then as you release that
air through your mouth, push on the left side of
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your rib cage to get rid of all that bad
carbon dioxide. Give a sigh today for that song you
didn't know was trapped somewhere inside that pops into your mind.
Maybe it's this one by the Paul Mickelson strings. Maybe
it's a hymn you remember in church back when you
could hold a hymnal in your hands? Maybe it's the
first 45 rpm record you bought when you were ten,
or it's a Bob Dylan song or something from Johnny
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Cash or Elvis or Frank Sinatra. Maybe it was a
song that you can only remember the tune and not
the name or the artist. You just have it back
there somewhere. Give a sigh today for the wonder of
our prefrontal cortex, or the amygdala, or wherever those songs
are stored. The Fabulous Favori Friday is brought to you
by the Hymnal Holding Society of Ottumwa, Iowa. All rights reserved.
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Nice job Chris, that was really good. You really brought
that in. Uh, I've had this idea. Full disclosure, I
have had this idea for so long, I have been
holding back, and I thought, you know what? Today is
the day. Uh, there are more pressing topics, more important
things in our national psyche we could be talking about,
for sure. We could do a history topic. It's June 6th.
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Every June 6th, I get this image in my head
of the beach in France and D-Day. So there's just
an infinite number of topics we could cover. But as
I was talking with doctor de rosé this week about
enchantment and delight, I thought, I need to do this topic,
even though I haven't found the guest who can answer
the question for us why does this happen? I was
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holding out until we could find the definitive answer. You know,
a scientist, a brain scientist, neurosurgeon who could tell us,
you know, this is why this happens. This is the
neural pathway. ET cetera. ET cetera. I haven't found that person.
If you're the person, call us today. But a few
mornings ago, a few weeks ago, actually, I woke up
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and there was a tune running around my head, and
I got into the office. Here, I turned on my recorder.
I hit record early in the morning, so I kept
my voice down so I wouldn't wake up any of
the dogs. And I recorded the tune I could remember,
but could not resurrect the words. Or, you know, who
was by what the title was. And this is what
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I hummed.
S2 (03:46):
Da da da da da da da da da da
da da da da da da da da da da
da da da da da da da da da da
da da da da da da da da da da
da da da da da da da da da da
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da da da da da.
S1 (04:10):
Okay, you can hear it was early. It was kind
of I kind of had that cloud, you know? But
that's exactly what happened to me. I couldn't figure out
I had the tune. I didn't know the words. Do
you know what it is? Can you call me quickly
if you know the answer to this. And this is.
And I'll send you. I'll give you a prize if
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you want, but call (877) 548-3675. If you know what hymn
tune that is. (877) 548-3675. Or if you want to guess,
that is an illustration of what I'm talking about today.
I did nothing other than wake up. I did nothing
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to try to bring that song into my head. It
just popped in there. Has that ever happened to you?
Am I the only one I want to hear from
you today? And if you know the answers I'm seeing,
nobody knows the answer to this. Uh, well, there might be.
There might be somebody. The first person I thought of.
And really, the reason I hit the record button and hum,
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that was a person that I knew well, I assumed
he would know that hymn tune his. He is my
erstwhile audio compadre. We worked together at Moody Radio many
moons ago. He hosted Sound of Majesty. Make sure you
keep it singular, friend. Not plural. Sound of Majesty. He
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hosted Prime Time America, a morning program with panache. He
also taught at Moody Bible Institute and Concordia University and
Wheaton College. I'm talking about the one, the only Greg Reely. Greg.
How in the world are you?
S3 (05:51):
I am good. Let me try it. Da dee da
dum bum bum.
S4 (05:56):
You did it.
S1 (05:57):
Yeah. You got it. And you knew that. You knew
as soon as you opened that you knew. Don't tell
me what it is. But you knew what the hymn
tune was. Even by my scratchy throat, right?
S3 (06:06):
Guilty. Guilty as charged. Yeah. Yeah.
S1 (06:10):
Because you've just been steeped in hymns. Is that right?
S3 (06:15):
Uh, well, I mean, um, I don't know. Steeped is
a relative term, but, um.
S1 (06:22):
I that's a good word, though, isn't it? Isn't it
a good word to be steeped?
S3 (06:26):
Steeped like a like a cup of tea? Um, I,
I mean, I know a fair number of hymns because
I love them, and I have worked with them, but
that one is happened to be, um, one of my favorites. So.
And and to the, you know, to the topic of the,
the program today, um, I think it does speak to,
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to that whole thing. We're talking about the memorability, um,
which we can probably talk about later, but, um, yeah,
I did know it right away.
S4 (06:55):
Yeah. Okay.
S1 (06:56):
James is in Florida. James, you think you know the
answer to this? Tell me. Tell me what you think.
S5 (07:03):
Chris, how are you today?
S4 (07:05):
I'm doing great.
S5 (07:06):
I, I don't know the words to the song, and
I'm going to tell you why, but it goes something like,
this is my father's world and I blah, blah.
S4 (07:17):
Blah, blah, blah. That is okay.
S1 (07:21):
That's close. I think there is. There are some similarities
to what the tune actually is. And this is my
father's world. But James, you're not correct. I'm sorry. Uh,
you don't win the prize.
S5 (07:35):
I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you
why I'm not correct. Because they sang that song or
that hymn in my father's church when I was growing
up as a kid. All the time.
S4 (07:45):
Really?
S5 (07:46):
And I, I likened it to. This is why I
don't want to be here. Because you're singing songs like this.
And so it's kind of a funny thing, but I
kind of rebelled against because it reminded me of going
to church when I was a tiny kid, when I
wanted to be home playing football or something.
S4 (08:07):
Yes. So. So it was.
S1 (08:08):
A kind of a negative. Okay. And now bring us
back to today. Here you are listening to Moody Radio.
Listening to us. Hum. What? Where are you now? Are
you still saying I don't want to go to church?
S5 (08:20):
Oh, no. I'm a youth minister in my church, so
I knew.
S4 (08:27):
That's fantastic.
S5 (08:29):
I need and I have other hymns in my head
that I wake up with like that. And I'm like,
where did this come from?
S4 (08:35):
Bingo.
S5 (08:36):
Um, so. So, yeah. That's it.
S1 (08:39):
You are the one that I wanted to talk to. Okay. Now,
I have a question for you. I said you didn't
win the prize. But you know what? Um, we're sending
anyone who supports the program this month. We're sending the
Moody Bible commentary excerpt of the Gospels. Do you have
a moody Bible commentary at all?
S5 (08:56):
I do not, and I listen to the Michaels all
the time, and I've been intending to get one.
S1 (09:02):
This is great. Okay, so what I'm going to do
is I'm going to send you this excerpt of the
Moody Bible Commentary. It's just the Gospels, but it's 240 pages,
so you hang on. James and Lisa will get your information,
and we'll send you a copy of this. And Fran,
by the way, if you'd like a copy of it,
we're giving this to anyone who supports us with a
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gift of any size. It's our fiscal year end in June.
Just go to Chris Reliford or call 86695 Faberry. Give
a gift of any size. We'll send you the excerpt
from the Moody Bible Commentary. Matthew. Mark. Luke. John. Now, Greg,
what do you think about that? Do you see how
swiftly and deftly I've moved into that?
S3 (09:42):
Yeah, absolutely. That was a work of beauty. That's Mask
of Beauty there. Yeah.
S1 (09:47):
Okay, so here's here's what I want to do. I
want to take a break. I want to see if
anybody gets that song that I hummed. And if not,
I want you to tell us what it is. So
here's the number (877) 548-3675. Is this just me or is
this just happening to James and to Greg that we
wake up with these unbidden songs in our heads and
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our hearts? We don't know what they are. (877) 548-3675. This
is Chris Fabry live on Moody Radio. Greg Wheatley is
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joining me today at the radio backyard fence. And my
question to you is, ever woken up with a song
in your head? And maybe you do remember the the
text of the tune, the what the title is, maybe
even the the artist that sang it. But you ask
the question why? Why is that there right now? Why
did that jump into my mind? Um, Greg Wheatley is
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we've worked together for a long time, so we're old pals.
And I knew that Greg would be good on this.
The the the hymn tune that I hum. Da da
da da da da. We don't have any correct answers
so far, so I'm going to tell you to tell
us this is one of your favorites. What is that hymn.
S3 (11:16):
The hymn is called We Sing the Boundless Praise. Um,
I'm not aware of any. You know, sometimes, uh, one
tune will get sung to a bunch of different texts, right? Right. Um.
And I don't know of any others for this tune. Uh,
there could be, but that's the one. And, um, it
is one of my favorites. I've loved it for a
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long time. So there you.
S1 (11:38):
Go. Sing the boundless praise of him who reigns on high.
And of his glorious son. The lamb who brought salvation nigh.
Thine everlasting power and majesty. We sing, but with our
songs of sovereign grace will make heaven's arches ring. Isn't
that good? Yeah. That's great. And then it goes on
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to the precious, thy precious blood alone. And then the
third stanza is all hail, Redeemer, King, thou Lamb of Calvary,
and ends. All worthy is the lamb. So these kinds
of things, I think it's a good sign when you've
got something like that ringing in your soul. And you,
and you, even if you don't know what it is,
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it's like, I got to figure this out, and I'm
glad I have a friend like you who can tell me.
S3 (12:25):
Well, I have a question back for you, though, if
you do not recall ever singing that hymn, I do.
S1 (12:31):
I remember, I remember the hymn tune. And again, I
don't understand why it came there. Um, on that morning
when I woke up and I just hit the record button. Yeah,
I'm mystified by that.
S3 (12:44):
And, uh, also one other was it James who called
us first? Um, yeah, there are some similarities. There's some
little melodic similarities with This is My Father's World, right? Yes.
So that's another interesting phenomenon, how we sometimes sort of
mix two things. And um, it's because of those, those
similarities that are in the, in the tunes.
S1 (13:06):
Um, Carolyn's in Allentown, Pennsylvania. Carolyn, why did you call today?
S6 (13:12):
Well, Chris, I've emailed you several times about my mother,
and she passed away on May 3rd. And one song
she and my my dad was a pastor, and she
and my dad used to sing duets. And they sang
this song called I've Discovered the Way of Gladness. And
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so that's been ringing through my heart and my soul
for the last month.
S1 (13:37):
So you you know why it's there? Because they sang it, right?
S6 (13:42):
Right. Right. But I hadn't thought of that song. I
hadn't thought of it for years and years and years.
I don't know when the last time it was that
I thought of that song and. But ever since my
mom died, that's been coming to me.
S1 (13:57):
Oh, I'm so sorry for that loss. How old was she?
S6 (14:01):
91.5.
S1 (14:03):
91. So a good long life. I'm sorry, but. But
that doesn't. That doesn't mean that, you know. Well, she
lived a long time, so I don't feel anything. No.
You feel it, right?
S6 (14:14):
Yeah. Oh, definitely. And the other, the, um, second line
to that is I've discovered the way of joy. And
one thing that people have been telling my siblings and
me for the last month, her and especially at her funeral,
people talked about her joy. She had a great joy
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in life, and she had a beautiful smile. And everybody's
talking about her smile and her joy. So she really
did live out that song all of her 91 years.
S1 (14:46):
Okay, I found the I found the text.
S6 (14:49):
The way of gladness. I've discovered the way of joy
was the second line.
S1 (14:54):
I've discovered relief from sadness.
S6 (14:57):
Sadness?
S1 (14:57):
It's a happiness without a joy. Oh, there's a good word. Okay, Greg.
So what is a. Oh, why? What is that?
S3 (15:06):
Eloi. Eloi, uh, that's a mixture, right? Like when you
have a chemical mixture, it's not pure. It's. It's an alloy.
S1 (15:14):
I think I think it's like dross, isn't it? You know,
like you get rust or it's happiness without anything holding
it back. I've discovered the fount of blessing. I've discovered
the living word. Twas the greatest of all discoveries. When
I found Jesus. My Lord, my Lord. So? So you
remember that as your. Your parents singing that together. What
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a precious memory for you.
S7 (15:37):
Yeah.
S8 (15:38):
Way of gladness. I discovered the way of joy. I've
discovered release from sadness is a happiness without money.
S1 (15:58):
Dick Anthony and Bill Pearce singing that.
S6 (16:01):
And my dad passed away 21 years ago, so I
can just basically hear my mom and dad singing that
together and having in front of Jesus throne.
S1 (16:12):
Yes. Oh, that's so Greg. What do you say about that?
S3 (16:15):
Yeah. Is that a that's a Peterson song, isn't it?
Do you have the credits there? Is that. Um, maybe
I could be wrong, but yeah, I can't remember. I
think what's interesting and, you know, this may come up
later on, Chris, but, um, as you say, those lyrics,
you know, one line follows another in your mind and
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it's like. And my, my contention is that that's largely
because of the music that they're married to. Um, I
think it would be ten times harder to remember those
words if you didn't have the music hooked on to it. Um,
it would be like trying to memorize word, you know,
like a poem or something, right? Um, so I think
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that's one of the reasons why what we sing is
so important. Yeah, because it's a memory device.
S1 (17:07):
The what I see here, it says it's written by
Floyd Hawkins.
S3 (17:11):
Okay. Wrong on that one.
S1 (17:12):
And I don't own the rights to this song, and
neither do I. So there it is. You heard it
first here. Uh, and, Carolyn, God bless you, friend. Thank
you for calling in here today and getting us started
at the radio.
S6 (17:24):
Thank you for having me on the air. I listen
to you frequently. And the two Michaels that are shout out,
I love the two Michaels as well. So do I
listen to Ride Dominic every Saturday.
S1 (17:35):
So as as everyone should. And if you don't, you're
you're missing out. All right, so Greg, when I asked
you this question, there was you went the extra mile
and you went to J.S. Bach. Of course you would,
because of Sound of Majesty. Um, and you have tell
me why you you sent this to me?
S3 (17:56):
Yeah. Well, honestly, excuse me a moment. I wanted to
bring back memories of my throat clearing for you there. Um, yes. Honestly,
I think, you know, when you asked me the question,
I thought what you were after is what we sort
of commonly call earworms, right? Things that get sort of
stuck in our head. And I really was having a
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hard time coming up with one because I thankfully haven't
really dealt with. Some people really suffer with that. Um,
but I did think, okay, what piece does come back
to me and and why? And this is one that
I thought would be good because we can talk about
kind of what I think makes it makes it memorable. Okay.
So this is, uh, the minuet in G by Bach. Probably.
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If you've ever played piano, you've probably played this.
S1 (19:07):
Okay, at the risk of doing violence to Bach, I'm
going to jump in here. So that's the minuet in
G major. And you're right, I've heard that that motif
in in different uh, through the, through the years.
S3 (19:21):
Yeah.
S1 (19:22):
And there's another song that you brought.
S3 (19:25):
Yeah. So, um, I'm going to give away my age here.
When I was ten years old, this song that we're
about to hear, uh, came out, uh, and became pretty
popular by a, a women's group, a girls group called
the toys. And if you're. I know it's a funny name,
but hey, it was the 60s. Um, if you're anything
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close to my age, I bet you're going to remember this.
S1 (19:48):
Do you want to do the talk over on this?
S3 (19:50):
Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't want to. I don't think I.
S1 (19:53):
Could do 16 seconds. 16 seconds. A wonderful lover's concerto.
All right, here we go. Practice this. Listen to this, folks.
See if you can tell why Greg wanted to play
this on my program today. Right here on Chris Fabry Live.
S9 (20:15):
How gentle is the rain that falls softly on the
mad world? High up in the trees. Serenade the flowers
with their melody. Oh, sweet baby on the hill. The
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bright I.
S10 (20:36):
Think I get it. I think I get it. Da
da da da da da. Yeah yeah yeah.
S3 (20:42):
So a number of pop singers, you know, down through
the years have done that. They've taken classical tunes and
recrafted them with, with pop lyrics and obviously some other
additions like the rhythm and so forth. But it's pretty
clearly there. I mean, if you, if you play the
Bach piece and then that you can hear the, the tune,
that's pretty intact actually. Yes. Between the two.
S1 (21:06):
Well, remember, wasn't it Cat Stevens who sang Morning has Broken? Yeah.
It was like it charted. That charted. And then, uh,
there's so many different songs. I have one for you.
And here's the number (877) 548-3675. So if you're thinking, oh,
I've got to have a hymn in my head in
order to, to call in today, you don't. There are
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other kinds of songs. Uh, the Herb Alpert Christie. You
have the Herb Alpert thing. Um, because and and here's
why I think I remember this when I think of
my father, I remember riding in the car with him.
It was probably a 68 Chevy, and I was about
the same age as you, about ten years old. And
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I remember hearing this on the Am radio.
S11 (22:10):
It takes me right back. See, that's the thing that
music can do. It will take you back to that.
S1 (22:15):
When you heard the toys a minute ago, it takes
you right back to when you're ten. This is the
same thing with me, Greg. It takes me right back
to that era. That epoch in my life.
S3 (22:25):
Yeah. Yeah, it really does. Um, there's a huge, um,
component of of memory, attachment to things. Um, one of
mine to go back to a him is, um, for
some reason, and I can't really explain it because I
don't have a good enough memory of the time. My grandmother,
the first person to be a close family member to
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pass away, was my dad's mom. And I was probably
8 or 9, maybe ten. And, um, for some reason,
all I can, all I can figure now is probably
the hymn My Jesus, I Love Thee was used maybe
at her funeral. I don't know. But that hymn became
attached to my sort of emotions as attached to my
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grandmother's passing. And, um, for a long time, it just
when that hymn came up, it was like, oh, that's
where I am emotionally. Yeah. Um, so there's a huge
there's really a big component of that with music.
S1 (23:24):
What a gift. You know, what a gift that God
gave us music to do all this to stir up.
Because there's somebody who's driving down. It's like, I remember
hearing that song, you know, when I, when I was
driving down the road or somebody was driving down the
road and I was a kid in the back seat. Uh,
there's one memory that I have, and I was a
big Cincinnati Reds fan as a kid. And so this
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was probably I was 9 or 10, and it was
just about the time when school was starting. So, um,
after Labor Day and there was a rain delay with the,
with the Reds, and I'm listening on the radio because
none of the games were on. It was like one
game a week that was on TV. And I didn't
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like to to watch the American League, but they usually played.
So I'm sitting there listening to the radio, to this
radio station, and there's a rain delay and it's so
long they send it back to the local station. They're
not going to do, you know, talking back and forth.
And they go to the station and they play Lean
on Me by Bill Withers. And I can still remember,
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you know, getting the stuff ready for school. I had
it all out there. It was raining outside where I
was in West Virginia, and listening to Lean on Me
by Bill Withers and all of the the emotion behind
that song and all of the longing and all of
the the idea that you're not in this alone. There's
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somebody walking with you. This is that's exactly it. And
it's got that ascending and descending. Greg, what do you
think of that?
S3 (25:03):
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Um, I, I'm also impressed with, uh,
Chris Siegert and the gang for being so quick on
the trigger.
S10 (25:12):
Yes.
S1 (25:13):
It's very. I didn't tell him about that.
S3 (25:14):
Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing. Yeah. Uh, and again, um, you know,
you have the emotional component you also have and this
is what obviously with my background, this is what's interesting
to me, the musical components that give it memorability. So
with with Lean on Me, you've got, as you mentioned,
that ascending and descending triad thing. Every kid who played
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piano at all tried to play that, right? Um, I
bet you did. And.
S1 (25:42):
Yeah. Well, it's it's. You can do C up to
F and back down. Okay. Let me, let me take
which is our, our theme is in the key of C.
So it all works out doesn't it. Uh, Greg Wheatley
is with me. I want to hear from you. (877) 548-3675.
More straight ahead. Father's day is coming up next week.
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I have a couple of father topics for you here
at the back fence. The Ministry of Clarinet also wants
to highlight dads. They're offering a free devotional. Uh, they
did that in May for moms. So in June, they
have a resource titled The Seven Marks of a Healthy dad.
Do you know what they are? Carenet is the pro
abundant life ministry. Meaning they're not just for the unborn.
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They're for everyone in the equation of making decisions about
the unborn. And they believe men are often overlooked on
the issue of abortion when their voice needs to be heard.
So as part of their pro abundant life approach, Carenet
is offering the free devotional for men The Seven Marks
of a Healthy Dad. Just go to Chris Fabry. Org.
There's a green connect button or connect link right there
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and you'll see how to get your copy. Dads do
that today. Go to Chris fabry.org, click the green connect
button and find out what are the seven marks of
a healthy Dad Chris fabric.org, where you'll also find out
about more about my guest Greg Wheatley. And we've got
a link. We haven't mentioned this yet a link to
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Sound of Majesty, the website, and I was listening to
I told you before we went on the the air
here I was listening today A to. Every time I
feel the spirit moving in my heart, I will pray.
And you've got some great music that streams around. It's
like 24 hours, isn't it?
S3 (27:42):
It is? Yeah, 24 hours a day. And, uh, every
other hour is the, um, Sound of Majesty programs that
we produced back in the day at Moody Radio. And
then on the other hours, it's just a selection of music. And, um,
we also have started, Chris, if I can mention this, a, um,
monthly e-news where we talk about, uh, briefly talk about
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a hymn text and pick a new one each time. So, um,
and that's free. And people can get that when they
go to that same website. Just hit the sign up
for E-news.
S1 (28:18):
So okay. Is that is the background music for that?
Is it a banjo?
S3 (28:23):
Uh, tell me more about that.
S1 (28:27):
I'll tell you afterwards. Okay. You know, I was thinking
about dads. I had this old Groucho Marx album. This
doesn't have anything to do with the program, but just
go with me and.
S3 (28:37):
I'm going with you. I always.
S10 (28:38):
Did.
S3 (28:38):
Go with you.
S1 (28:39):
I just he did all of these old songs from
vaudeville days and, you know, from the movies that he
did and all that stuff. And he sang, uh, today,
Father is Father's Day, and we're giving you a tie.
It's just our way of saying that we think you're
a regular guy.
S11 (28:57):
And I've never been able to forget that.
S3 (28:59):
I've never heard it. Thanks. Thanks a lot for that.
S10 (29:02):
It's.
S11 (29:02):
It's stuck way back.
S1 (29:03):
In there in the synapses. Gary is in Addison, Illinois. Hi, Gary.
Welcome to the program.
S12 (29:09):
How are you doing?
S11 (29:10):
Doing great.
S1 (29:11):
Thank you.
S12 (29:12):
Praise God. Yeah. The song I was the other day.
You know, you're praying and you're seeking the Lord and
you're battling through, uh, things that are coming in your
mind and situations you have in your life. And this
oldie but a goodie came to me. Uh, we will
understand it better by and by. I know you probably
heard it before.
S13 (29:32):
Understand it better by and by.
S1 (29:41):
Is that it?
S12 (29:42):
Yeah. It's, um. You get more upbeat. It's sort of like.
Like you said, banjo music. It's sort of like upbeat song.
S1 (29:50):
Bring the banjo in. Yeah. This sounds like a southern gospel. Uh,
feel or chorus feel. So what? What do you think?
Why did that song come to you, Gary?
S12 (30:03):
Well, you're, um. You're going through tests and trial and, um,
sometimes you don't understand, um, the length or the or
what you have to deal with, but you're, you know,
your god is faithful, and and it says, um, uh,
seek ye first the kingdom of God and all his
righteousness and everything else shall be added unto you. You're
quoting verses, promises and so on to and get the victory.
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And then that song came to me. It's, um. It's
it's I got some research on it because I, I
wanted to find out, but we sang it in church
when I was first saved. Charles Tinley, 1905, wrote the
music and the lyrics, and it's off of, like, First
Corinthians 1312. For now we see through a glass darkly.
But then face to face. Now I know in part.
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But then I know even also as I am known.
So he went with that verse and, um, produced the song, um,
you know.
S1 (30:56):
Okay, this is rich. This is so rich, Gary, because
I went to Hymnary.org. Charles Tindley was born in Maryland,
1851 July 7th, son of Charles and Hester. His father
was a slave. His mother was free. Hester died when
he was very young. He was taken in by his
mother's sister in order to keep his freedom. It seems
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that he was expected to work to help the family.
In his book sermons, 1932, he speaks about being hired
out as a young boy wherever her father could place me.
So the hymn then starts with there's four verses that
I have here. We are often tossed and driven on
the restless sea of time. Somber skies and howling tempests
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oft succeed. A bright sunshine in that land of perfect day.
When the mists have rolled away. We will understand it
better by and by. And then it goes through the
trials and temptations and other things. I no wonder you
thought about that, Greg. What do you think about that?
That song. That hymn text?
S3 (32:02):
Yeah, I recognize it. I recognized it right away. So, um,
and and again, you've got the attachment to a specific
event or memory or something that's very important. But in
you've got a song that's very singable, memorable kind of
in song form. Uh, a more popular kind of form.
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And so you've got all the, you've got all the
ingredients to to make it a memorable, uh, kind of thing.
S1 (32:31):
I think. See, here's the thing, Gary. What happens is
that I often say you are our best resource. You know,
our listeners are our best resource. And you've taken us
to another level here, because my guess is there's somebody
who needed to hear that song or the idea behind
that song because they're tossed on the restless sea, you know,
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in their own life. So you've spoken into somebody else's
life today.
S12 (32:56):
Right? And, um, it everybody needs it in their time of, uh, test,
time of trial. And, um, you don't understand what God's
doing sometimes, but you're trusting him, and you will understand
it better by and by, you know, and the and the, um,
all these, uh, stanzas, you know, the chorus and the
stanza are like the same, uh, music. So it's very
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easy to sing. Yes. You know.
S1 (33:22):
Repetition by and by, when the morning comes, all the
saints of God are gathered home. We will tell the
story how we've overcome. We will understand it better by
and by. Um, you were going to say something else, Greg,
about that?
S3 (33:34):
Well, I just I think what he brings up is
really important. I had a note jotted down here to
to talk about it. The repetition of stanzas or verses, um,
that aids in remembering is honestly something that I think
some of our contemporary music is missing. Um, and it's,
it's part of the power of hymnody because it's, it's
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what we call strophic, uh, which is just kind of
a fancy word for verses. Right? Um, so when you
get the repetition of verses, you have a chance each,
each time the stanzas, words change, but the music comes back.
And so you're not constantly learning new musical elements. You're,
you're you're able to hook those to the text that
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you're singing. So.
S1 (34:20):
Yeah. And the and the different and can it be? See,
I've got a hymnal and I. You know, I probably
shouldn't go negative on this because everything's been so positive
so far. But it's like. And can it be they've
only got four verses of an. Can it be in
my hymnal that my daughter gave me as a present?
How can you sing and can it be and leave
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out that third verse which I think.
S3 (34:46):
Is left out?
S1 (34:47):
I think it was long. My imprisoned spirit lay fast bound.
S3 (34:51):
My, that's not in there.
S1 (34:51):
It was like everything falls apart if you take that. Oh, yeah.
You know.
S3 (34:56):
Yeah. It's all got me going.
S1 (34:58):
Yeah, I know, I know, but I'm not going to
go negative here. I'm not going to go negative because
I don't want this to be implanted in your brain.
And it'll bring it up again. But just make sure
that if you look at hymnals and you're going to
buy one, that it has all five verses, and there's
probably more than that, you know, in the original writing. Gary.
God bless you, friend. Thank you for calling today. Patrick
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is in Florida. Patrick, why did you call?
S14 (35:22):
Afternoon to you. I was telling the young gal that
picked up my my call. She really. She brought back
my memory. Whistle while you work.
S15 (35:33):
Just whistle while you work.
S16 (35:37):
That's it.
S15 (35:38):
And cheerfully together we can tidy up the place. So good. Okay.
S1 (35:44):
So, Patrick, why did that come into your mind?
S14 (35:47):
Do you think? When I went, you know, when I
was ten years old. I grew up on a small farm,
and I don't whistle like that much anymore. But way
back when I was doing a lot of work, I'd
be sweating like a dog, and I'd whistle that. And
because of my memory of those dwarfs. Whistle while you work,
you know, I always brought a smile to my face,
even when I went into my 20s and 30s, uh,
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the song never left. Never left me whenever I was
working hard, I, you know, retired fireman. So when we'd
be loading hose that mine would be in my in,
you know, that that song would be in my head. Yeah,
but I don't whistle it much anymore though, buddy.
S1 (36:24):
Ah, well.
S14 (36:26):
I'm retired.
S1 (36:27):
Yeah, and you probably are whistling other songs, but it
came back to you as soon as you heard what
we were talking about today. That's what you thought of, right?
S14 (36:34):
And then it an immediate smile. It just brought back
those old days because when I, I always was happy
in my heart. Even though I was working like a dog. Uh,
but yes, you're right. The other one is, uh. Swing low,
sweet chariot. That's the only part I know, but I
used to sing. My daughter's asleep with that. Papa, can
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you swing? Sing that to us? That's another one. And, uh.
But it did bring a smile to my face that
showed that. Well done.
S1 (37:03):
Such rich memories there. And especially that the lullabies. Greg,
to sing the songs that you sang to your children,
or the song that you remember your parents singing to you,
those are rich.
S3 (37:15):
Yeah, well, think about, you know, in terms of a lullaby.
Think about what that's doing, you know, for kids and
for parents. The bedtime is one of the most, you know,
tender moments, right, of raising our kids. And, um, so
why not? You know, those should be memorable to us.
S17 (37:35):
You know, one of the questions I've always had is.
S1 (37:37):
Did did Mary sing a lullaby to Jesus? You know, when,
when she was rocking him to sleep and what was
it and what was? I've always wondered, you know, and
they sang an hymn and went out, you know, to
the Mount of Olives, um, and to the garden. What
was the hymn that they sang? And will we be
able to? We talked with John Kessler yesterday about heaven,
(38:00):
and we'll be able to sing the same hymns that
they sang, you know, in the first century back then, uh,
in heaven, or will we sing any other songs that
we now sing or any of the hymns in the
hymnal and all the verses of and can it be
we'll be able to do that in heaven? What do
you think about that?
S3 (38:18):
I hope so, I mean, at least, let's say the
best of the best, right? Um, and and we'll sing
a new song. So, you know, I think there's a
place for newly, newly created. But I hope so. I mean,
I was just talking to Jennifer the other day about
this idea of whether heaven is in continuity with our
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current life or it's this total. I think I grew
up thinking there was this complete break, like, when you
go to heaven, nothing of earth is left. It's just,
you know, like a brick wall. And I just don't
think that I don't think that's the picture of the
new heavens and new earth. I think I think we're
going to be able to remember the best things and
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what God did in this life. Um, there certainly won't
be any sorrow or tears, but, um, you know, I
just think. I think why not? Why would God waste
all the good things that he's already given us? And, um,
I'm hoping that's hymns are a part of that as well.
S1 (39:15):
One of the good things is, is purpose and work
is a part of what we do now. And if
work was a part of the garden before the fall,
why wouldn't work be a part of you know, what
we're doing there or something? We do. And I can
see you getting together a chorale of people, um, a
chorale of people and, you know, and singing and leading
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because you did that for for a lot, many years.
You know, it's a real joy for you to be
able to get these voices together and to sing. Won't
it be great when everybody has perfect pitch?
S3 (39:48):
I was going to say we have to be in
tune all the time. Yeah, exactly.
S1 (39:52):
All right. I want to be in that number and
counted in that number.
S3 (39:56):
Will you make sure there will be. There will be
an audition. But I'm confident you can pass it, so.
S1 (40:02):
Yeah. Wonder what the audition song is going to be. Okay,
this is good. We're talking about the song that kind
of came to you unbidden. Uh, whether it's whistle while
you work or a hymn. We've got more responses straight ahead.
This is Chris Fabry live on Moody Radio.
S16 (40:29):
This is Chris Fabry.
S1 (40:30):
Live on Moody Radio. Thanks a lot for joining us today.
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heard people say, oh, I wish I could hear sound
of majesty. Well, friend, you can. It's online. It's 24 hours.
And this e-news that Greg mentioned about each week he
sends one him and the story behind that him and
responding to that him. It's not necessarily the story. And
in toto. Right, Greg?
S3 (41:36):
No, it's more actually, um, it's not so much, you know,
the story behind the hymn. It's more a theological look
at the text. We kind of try to take it
apart and talk about why it's, you know, why it's
important for us and just just to be truth in advertising.
It's not weekly. It's more like monthly.
S1 (41:54):
So it's monthly.
S3 (41:55):
Okay. Yeah.
S1 (41:56):
Well, we'll we'll get you to do it every week.
S3 (41:58):
Now, you just suddenly made my life a whole lot worse. Yeah.
S16 (42:02):
Okay, so.
S1 (42:03):
Wilda is in Ohio. Wilda, tell me why you called.
S18 (42:07):
Well, you said, um, something about people waking up with
a song on their. On their mind or singing a song.
And you said, was you the only one done things
like that? No you're not. Um. I used to wake
up more often than I have lately, but the last
time I woke up singing, it was no. Not one.
S16 (42:30):
Oh.
S1 (42:31):
The old hymn by Johnson Oatman junior and, uh, George
hug Greg, the, uh, the person on the right is
the music, and the person on the left is the text. Right.
S3 (42:41):
Uh, other way around.
S19 (42:43):
It's the other way around.
S1 (42:44):
The right. John Oatman wrote da da da da da
da da da da da. Okay, here we go.
S9 (42:51):
Right.
S20 (42:51):
That's it. There's not a friend like the Lord Jesus. No.
Not one.
S16 (43:02):
Okay, so talk about.
S1 (43:03):
The the tempo of that, Greg, because there's you can't
separate the tempo with the lyrics, can you.
S3 (43:10):
Yeah. It's interesting you asked that I the minute that started,
I thought, wow, they're singing that fast. Um, yeah, that's
a little that that was. It's brisk. Um. Is that
what you mean? Is that what you're asking?
S1 (43:23):
Well, yeah, when I sing it, if I'm just playing
my banjo or guitar, I change up the tempo a
little bit. And da da da da.
S2 (43:33):
Da da da da.
S1 (43:35):
Da. You know, you can, you can. Yeah. They're malleable.
S3 (43:38):
Right? A little more free. Yeah. Yeah.
S1 (43:40):
But it has a repetition at the end of every,
not just in the chorus but at the end. No.
Not one, no not one. They're emphasizing that, um, that
there's there's not one here. There's not a friend like
the lowly Jesus. No friend like him is so high
and holy. No. Not one. There's not an hour that
he is not near us. No. Not one, no. Not one.
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So that's the. Why do you think that hymn sang
in your heart?
S18 (44:08):
I don't know, we sing that at church, but I
don't remember that we had sung it recently at that time,
but I. I have wondered since if maybe God put
that on my mind as a, as a motivation. Uh,
or and that's the wrong word. But to to, um,
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to write because I do write and it was shortly
after that, maybe the next week. I don't know that
I wrote, um, about that song and what it means and,
and the blessings that it brings to me.
S1 (44:41):
Yes. Well, there's such confidence in that, in that text,
and and it's giving you courage for whatever is in
front of you or or or help for what's behind you. And,
you know, things that have have happened to you. Um,
and I think that's one of the things that happens
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with hymns, Greg, is and, and they connect us with
the previous generation and then the generations before us. Right?
S3 (45:10):
Yeah, they sure do. Uh, if you look through, you know,
if you thumb through your hymnal, um, and just look
at dates, you'll find the whole gamut of relatively recent
to really, really old. Uh, in a lot of hymnals,
there's at least 1 or 2 hymns that go back
to like fourth century, maybe. Right. So, um, yeah. What's
the oldest.
S1 (45:30):
Hymn? What's the oldest hymn that you know?
S3 (45:33):
Oh, you mean that something that we would commonly call
a hymn in our hymnal? Yeah, probably. There's a, um.
The name is escaping me, and I hear the music
for a.
S1 (45:43):
Break, so.
S3 (45:44):
Let me think about that.
S1 (45:46):
Yeah. We'll get we'll do it next week. Um, yeah.
There's one that's like a Gregorian chant type of thing.
That is.
S3 (45:52):
Yeah.
S1 (45:53):
That's way back there. But I put you on the spot. Uh,
we'll do we'll do that again sometime. Okay.
S3 (45:59):
Give me time to study.
S1 (46:00):
I can't believe that we're done. This is that is just.
I was I was ready to go to Linda in Holland,
Michigan and talk about blessed assurance that she said, I
remember in my youth they used to sing it whenever
someone got saved at church. In my reading this morning, um,
Psalm 126, at the end of it, it says you
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they will you will bring the sheaves with you. And
I thought bringing in the sheaves. And then on Facebook
a listener said, bringing in the sheaves. It's like it
all comes together here. So yeah, if you didn't get
on today, uh, send me an email answer on Facebook.
I'd love to hear this song that popped into your
into your mind. And we'll do this again at some point.
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Maybe we'll even do it in connection with Father's Day.
I've got an idea about that. So Greg Wheatley, thanks
a lot for joining us today. God bless you friend.
S3 (46:51):
Thanks, Chris. Always good to be with you.
S1 (46:54):
Have a great weekend. And remember Chris Fabry Live is
a production of Moody Radio, a ministry of Moody Bible
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Nice job Chris, that was really good. You really brought
that in. Uh, I've had this idea. Full disclosure, I
have had this idea for so long, I have been
holding back, and I thought, you know what? Today is
the day. Uh, there are more pressing topics, more important
things in our national psyche we could be talking about,
for sure. We could do a history topic. It's June 6th.
(02:39):
Every June 6th, I get this image in my head
of the beach in France and D-Day. So there's just
an infinite number of topics we could cover. But as
I was talking with doctor de rosé this week about
enchantment and delight, I thought, I need to do this topic,
even though I haven't found the guest who can answer
the question for us why does this happen? I was
(03:01):
holding out until we could find the definitive answer. You know,
a scientist, a brain scientist, neurosurgeon who could tell us,
you know, this is why this happens. This is the
neural pathway. ET cetera. ET cetera. I haven't found that person.
If you're the person, call us today. But a few
mornings ago, a few weeks ago, actually, I woke up
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and there was a tune running around my head, and
I got into the office. Here, I turned on my recorder.
I hit record early in the morning, so I kept
my voice down so I wouldn't wake up any of
the dogs. And I recorded the tune I could remember,
but could not resurrect the words. Or, you know, who
was by what the title was. And this is what
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I hummed.
S2 (03:46):
Da da da da da da da da da da
da da da da da da da da da da
da da da da da da da da da da
da da da da da da da da da da
da da da da da da da da da da
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da da da da da.
S1 (04:10):
Okay, you can hear it was early. It was kind
of I kind of had that cloud, you know? But
that's exactly what happened to me. I couldn't figure out
I had the tune. I didn't know the words. Do
you know what it is? Can you call me quickly
if you know the answer to this. And this is.
And I'll send you. I'll give you a prize if
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you want, but call (877) 548-3675. If you know what hymn
tune that is. (877) 548-3675. Or if you want to guess,
that is an illustration of what I'm talking about today.
I did nothing other than wake up. I did nothing
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to try to bring that song into my head. It
just popped in there. Has that ever happened to you?
Am I the only one I want to hear from
you today? And if you know the answers I'm seeing,
nobody knows the answer to this. Uh, well, there might be.
There might be somebody. The first person I thought of.
And really, the reason I hit the record button and hum,
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that was a person that I knew well, I assumed
he would know that hymn tune his. He is my
erstwhile audio compadre. We worked together at Moody Radio many
moons ago. He hosted Sound of Majesty. Make sure you
keep it singular, friend. Not plural. Sound of Majesty. He
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hosted Prime Time America, a morning program with panache. He
also taught at Moody Bible Institute and Concordia University and
Wheaton College. I'm talking about the one, the only Greg Reely. Greg.
How in the world are you?
S3 (05:51):
I am good. Let me try it. Da dee da
dum bum bum.
S4 (05:56):
You did it.
S1 (05:57):
Yeah. You got it. And you knew that. You knew
as soon as you opened that you knew. Don't tell
me what it is. But you knew what the hymn
tune was. Even by my scratchy throat, right?
S3 (06:06):
Guilty. Guilty as charged. Yeah. Yeah.
S1 (06:10):
Because you've just been steeped in hymns. Is that right?
S3 (06:15):
Uh, well, I mean, um, I don't know. Steeped is
a relative term, but, um.
S1 (06:22):
I that's a good word, though, isn't it? Isn't it
a good word to be steeped?
S3 (06:26):
Steeped like a like a cup of tea? Um, I,
I mean, I know a fair number of hymns because
I love them, and I have worked with them, but
that one is happened to be, um, one of my favorites. So.
And and to the, you know, to the topic of the,
the program today, um, I think it does speak to,
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to that whole thing. We're talking about the memorability, um,
which we can probably talk about later, but, um, yeah,
I did know it right away.
S4 (06:55):
Yeah. Okay.
S1 (06:56):
James is in Florida. James, you think you know the
answer to this? Tell me. Tell me what you think.
S5 (07:03):
Chris, how are you today?
S4 (07:05):
I'm doing great.
S5 (07:06):
I, I don't know the words to the song, and
I'm going to tell you why, but it goes something like,
this is my father's world and I blah, blah.
S4 (07:17):
Blah, blah, blah. That is okay.
S1 (07:21):
That's close. I think there is. There are some similarities
to what the tune actually is. And this is my
father's world. But James, you're not correct. I'm sorry. Uh,
you don't win the prize.
S5 (07:35):
I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you
why I'm not correct. Because they sang that song or
that hymn in my father's church when I was growing
up as a kid. All the time.
S4 (07:45):
Really?
S5 (07:46):
And I, I likened it to. This is why I
don't want to be here. Because you're singing songs like this.
And so it's kind of a funny thing, but I
kind of rebelled against because it reminded me of going
to church when I was a tiny kid, when I
wanted to be home playing football or something.
S4 (08:07):
Yes. So. So it was.
S1 (08:08):
A kind of a negative. Okay. And now bring us
back to today. Here you are listening to Moody Radio.
Listening to us. Hum. What? Where are you now? Are
you still saying I don't want to go to church?
S5 (08:20):
Oh, no. I'm a youth minister in my church, so
I knew.
S4 (08:27):
That's fantastic.
S5 (08:29):
I need and I have other hymns in my head
that I wake up with like that. And I'm like,
where did this come from?
S4 (08:35):
Bingo.
S5 (08:36):
Um, so. So, yeah. That's it.
S1 (08:39):
You are the one that I wanted to talk to. Okay. Now,
I have a question for you. I said you didn't
win the prize. But you know what? Um, we're sending
anyone who supports the program this month. We're sending the
Moody Bible commentary excerpt of the Gospels. Do you have
a moody Bible commentary at all?
S5 (08:56):
I do not, and I listen to the Michaels all
the time, and I've been intending to get one.
S1 (09:02):
This is great. Okay, so what I'm going to do
is I'm going to send you this excerpt of the
Moody Bible Commentary. It's just the Gospels, but it's 240 pages,
so you hang on. James and Lisa will get your information,
and we'll send you a copy of this. And Fran,
by the way, if you'd like a copy of it,
we're giving this to anyone who supports us with a
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gift of any size. It's our fiscal year end in June.
Just go to Chris Reliford or call 86695 Faberry. Give
a gift of any size. We'll send you the excerpt
from the Moody Bible Commentary. Matthew. Mark. Luke. John. Now, Greg,
what do you think about that? Do you see how
swiftly and deftly I've moved into that?
S3 (09:42):
Yeah, absolutely. That was a work of beauty. That's Mask
of Beauty there. Yeah.
S1 (09:47):
Okay, so here's here's what I want to do. I
want to take a break. I want to see if
anybody gets that song that I hummed. And if not,
I want you to tell us what it is. So
here's the number (877) 548-3675. Is this just me or is
this just happening to James and to Greg that we
wake up with these unbidden songs in our heads and
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our hearts? We don't know what they are. (877) 548-3675. This
is Chris Fabry live on Moody Radio. Greg Wheatley is
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joining me today at the radio backyard fence. And my
question to you is, ever woken up with a song
in your head? And maybe you do remember the the
text of the tune, the what the title is, maybe
even the the artist that sang it. But you ask
the question why? Why is that there right now? Why
did that jump into my mind? Um, Greg Wheatley is
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we've worked together for a long time, so we're old pals.
And I knew that Greg would be good on this.
The the the hymn tune that I hum. Da da
da da da da. We don't have any correct answers
so far, so I'm going to tell you to tell
us this is one of your favorites. What is that hymn.
S3 (11:16):
The hymn is called We Sing the Boundless Praise. Um,
I'm not aware of any. You know, sometimes, uh, one
tune will get sung to a bunch of different texts, right? Right. Um.
And I don't know of any others for this tune. Uh,
there could be, but that's the one. And, um, it
is one of my favorites. I've loved it for a
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long time. So there you.
S1 (11:38):
Go. Sing the boundless praise of him who reigns on high.
And of his glorious son. The lamb who brought salvation nigh.
Thine everlasting power and majesty. We sing, but with our
songs of sovereign grace will make heaven's arches ring. Isn't
that good? Yeah. That's great. And then it goes on
(11:59):
to the precious, thy precious blood alone. And then the
third stanza is all hail, Redeemer, King, thou Lamb of Calvary,
and ends. All worthy is the lamb. So these kinds
of things, I think it's a good sign when you've
got something like that ringing in your soul. And you,
and you, even if you don't know what it is,
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it's like, I got to figure this out, and I'm
glad I have a friend like you who can tell me.
S3 (12:25):
Well, I have a question back for you, though, if
you do not recall ever singing that hymn, I do.
S1 (12:31):
I remember, I remember the hymn tune. And again, I
don't understand why it came there. Um, on that morning
when I woke up and I just hit the record button. Yeah,
I'm mystified by that.
S3 (12:44):
And, uh, also one other was it James who called
us first? Um, yeah, there are some similarities. There's some
little melodic similarities with This is My Father's World, right? Yes.
So that's another interesting phenomenon, how we sometimes sort of
mix two things. And um, it's because of those, those
similarities that are in the, in the tunes.
S1 (13:06):
Um, Carolyn's in Allentown, Pennsylvania. Carolyn, why did you call today?
S6 (13:12):
Well, Chris, I've emailed you several times about my mother,
and she passed away on May 3rd. And one song
she and my my dad was a pastor, and she
and my dad used to sing duets. And they sang
this song called I've Discovered the Way of Gladness. And
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so that's been ringing through my heart and my soul
for the last month.
S1 (13:37):
So you you know why it's there? Because they sang it, right?
S6 (13:42):
Right. Right. But I hadn't thought of that song. I
hadn't thought of it for years and years and years.
I don't know when the last time it was that
I thought of that song and. But ever since my
mom died, that's been coming to me.
S1 (13:57):
Oh, I'm so sorry for that loss. How old was she?
S6 (14:01):
91.5.
S1 (14:03):
91. So a good long life. I'm sorry, but. But
that doesn't. That doesn't mean that, you know. Well, she
lived a long time, so I don't feel anything. No.
You feel it, right?
S6 (14:14):
Yeah. Oh, definitely. And the other, the, um, second line
to that is I've discovered the way of joy. And
one thing that people have been telling my siblings and
me for the last month, her and especially at her funeral,
people talked about her joy. She had a great joy
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in life, and she had a beautiful smile. And everybody's
talking about her smile and her joy. So she really
did live out that song all of her 91 years.
S1 (14:46):
Okay, I found the I found the text.
S6 (14:49):
The way of gladness. I've discovered the way of joy
was the second line.
S1 (14:54):
I've discovered relief from sadness.
S6 (14:57):
Sadness?
S1 (14:57):
It's a happiness without a joy. Oh, there's a good word. Okay, Greg.
So what is a. Oh, why? What is that?
S3 (15:06):
Eloi. Eloi, uh, that's a mixture, right? Like when you
have a chemical mixture, it's not pure. It's. It's an alloy.
S1 (15:14):
I think I think it's like dross, isn't it? You know,
like you get rust or it's happiness without anything holding
it back. I've discovered the fount of blessing. I've discovered
the living word. Twas the greatest of all discoveries. When
I found Jesus. My Lord, my Lord. So? So you
remember that as your. Your parents singing that together. What
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a precious memory for you.
S7 (15:37):
Yeah.
S8 (15:38):
Way of gladness. I discovered the way of joy. I've
discovered release from sadness is a happiness without money.
S1 (15:58):
Dick Anthony and Bill Pearce singing that.
S6 (16:01):
And my dad passed away 21 years ago, so I
can just basically hear my mom and dad singing that
together and having in front of Jesus throne.
S1 (16:12):
Yes. Oh, that's so Greg. What do you say about that?
S3 (16:15):
Yeah. Is that a that's a Peterson song, isn't it?
Do you have the credits there? Is that. Um, maybe
I could be wrong, but yeah, I can't remember. I
think what's interesting and, you know, this may come up
later on, Chris, but, um, as you say, those lyrics,
you know, one line follows another in your mind and
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it's like. And my, my contention is that that's largely
because of the music that they're married to. Um, I
think it would be ten times harder to remember those
words if you didn't have the music hooked on to it. Um,
it would be like trying to memorize word, you know,
like a poem or something, right? Um, so I think
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that's one of the reasons why what we sing is
so important. Yeah, because it's a memory device.
S1 (17:07):
The what I see here, it says it's written by
Floyd Hawkins.
S3 (17:11):
Okay. Wrong on that one.
S1 (17:12):
And I don't own the rights to this song, and
neither do I. So there it is. You heard it
first here. Uh, and, Carolyn, God bless you, friend. Thank
you for calling in here today and getting us started
at the radio.
S6 (17:24):
Thank you for having me on the air. I listen
to you frequently. And the two Michaels that are shout out,
I love the two Michaels as well. So do I
listen to Ride Dominic every Saturday.
S1 (17:35):
So as as everyone should. And if you don't, you're
you're missing out. All right, so Greg, when I asked
you this question, there was you went the extra mile
and you went to J.S. Bach. Of course you would,
because of Sound of Majesty. Um, and you have tell
me why you you sent this to me?
S3 (17:56):
Yeah. Well, honestly, excuse me a moment. I wanted to
bring back memories of my throat clearing for you there. Um, yes. Honestly,
I think, you know, when you asked me the question,
I thought what you were after is what we sort
of commonly call earworms, right? Things that get sort of
stuck in our head. And I really was having a
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hard time coming up with one because I thankfully haven't
really dealt with. Some people really suffer with that. Um,
but I did think, okay, what piece does come back
to me and and why? And this is one that
I thought would be good because we can talk about
kind of what I think makes it makes it memorable. Okay.
So this is, uh, the minuet in G by Bach. Probably.
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If you've ever played piano, you've probably played this.
S1 (19:07):
Okay, at the risk of doing violence to Bach, I'm
going to jump in here. So that's the minuet in
G major. And you're right, I've heard that that motif
in in different uh, through the, through the years.
S3 (19:21):
Yeah.
S1 (19:22):
And there's another song that you brought.
S3 (19:25):
Yeah. So, um, I'm going to give away my age here.
When I was ten years old, this song that we're
about to hear, uh, came out, uh, and became pretty
popular by a, a women's group, a girls group called
the toys. And if you're. I know it's a funny name,
but hey, it was the 60s. Um, if you're anything
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close to my age, I bet you're going to remember this.
S1 (19:48):
Do you want to do the talk over on this?
S3 (19:50):
Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't want to. I don't think I.
S1 (19:53):
Could do 16 seconds. 16 seconds. A wonderful lover's concerto.
All right, here we go. Practice this. Listen to this, folks.
See if you can tell why Greg wanted to play
this on my program today. Right here on Chris Fabry Live.
S9 (20:15):
How gentle is the rain that falls softly on the
mad world? High up in the trees. Serenade the flowers
with their melody. Oh, sweet baby on the hill. The
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bright I.
S10 (20:36):
Think I get it. I think I get it. Da
da da da da da. Yeah yeah yeah.
S3 (20:42):
So a number of pop singers, you know, down through
the years have done that. They've taken classical tunes and
recrafted them with, with pop lyrics and obviously some other
additions like the rhythm and so forth. But it's pretty
clearly there. I mean, if you, if you play the
Bach piece and then that you can hear the, the tune,
that's pretty intact actually. Yes. Between the two.
S1 (21:06):
Well, remember, wasn't it Cat Stevens who sang Morning has Broken? Yeah.
It was like it charted. That charted. And then, uh,
there's so many different songs. I have one for you.
And here's the number (877) 548-3675. So if you're thinking, oh,
I've got to have a hymn in my head in
order to, to call in today, you don't. There are
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other kinds of songs. Uh, the Herb Alpert Christie. You
have the Herb Alpert thing. Um, because and and here's
why I think I remember this when I think of
my father, I remember riding in the car with him.
It was probably a 68 Chevy, and I was about
the same age as you, about ten years old. And
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I remember hearing this on the Am radio.
S11 (22:10):
It takes me right back. See, that's the thing that
music can do. It will take you back to that.
S1 (22:15):
When you heard the toys a minute ago, it takes
you right back to when you're ten. This is the
same thing with me, Greg. It takes me right back
to that era. That epoch in my life.
S3 (22:25):
Yeah. Yeah, it really does. Um, there's a huge, um,
component of of memory, attachment to things. Um, one of
mine to go back to a him is, um, for
some reason, and I can't really explain it because I
don't have a good enough memory of the time. My grandmother,
the first person to be a close family member to
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pass away, was my dad's mom. And I was probably
8 or 9, maybe ten. And, um, for some reason,
all I can, all I can figure now is probably
the hymn My Jesus, I Love Thee was used maybe
at her funeral. I don't know. But that hymn became
attached to my sort of emotions as attached to my
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grandmother's passing. And, um, for a long time, it just
when that hymn came up, it was like, oh, that's
where I am emotionally. Yeah. Um, so there's a huge
there's really a big component of that with music.
S1 (23:24):
What a gift. You know, what a gift that God
gave us music to do all this to stir up.
Because there's somebody who's driving down. It's like, I remember
hearing that song, you know, when I, when I was
driving down the road or somebody was driving down the
road and I was a kid in the back seat. Uh,
there's one memory that I have, and I was a
big Cincinnati Reds fan as a kid. And so this
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was probably I was 9 or 10, and it was
just about the time when school was starting. So, um,
after Labor Day and there was a rain delay with the,
with the Reds, and I'm listening on the radio because
none of the games were on. It was like one
game a week that was on TV. And I didn't
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like to to watch the American League, but they usually played.
So I'm sitting there listening to the radio, to this
radio station, and there's a rain delay and it's so
long they send it back to the local station. They're
not going to do, you know, talking back and forth.
And they go to the station and they play Lean
on Me by Bill Withers. And I can still remember,
(24:30):
you know, getting the stuff ready for school. I had
it all out there. It was raining outside where I
was in West Virginia, and listening to Lean on Me
by Bill Withers and all of the the emotion behind
that song and all of the longing and all of
the the idea that you're not in this alone. There's
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somebody walking with you. This is that's exactly it. And
it's got that ascending and descending. Greg, what do you
think of that?
S3 (25:03):
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Um, I, I'm also impressed with, uh,
Chris Siegert and the gang for being so quick on
the trigger.
S10 (25:12):
Yes.
S1 (25:13):
It's very. I didn't tell him about that.
S3 (25:14):
Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing. Yeah. Uh, and again, um, you know,
you have the emotional component you also have and this
is what obviously with my background, this is what's interesting
to me, the musical components that give it memorability. So
with with Lean on Me, you've got, as you mentioned,
that ascending and descending triad thing. Every kid who played
(25:37):
piano at all tried to play that, right? Um, I
bet you did. And.
S1 (25:42):
Yeah. Well, it's it's. You can do C up to
F and back down. Okay. Let me, let me take
which is our, our theme is in the key of C.
So it all works out doesn't it. Uh, Greg Wheatley
is with me. I want to hear from you. (877) 548-3675.
More straight ahead. Father's day is coming up next week.
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I have a couple of father topics for you here
at the back fence. The Ministry of Clarinet also wants
to highlight dads. They're offering a free devotional. Uh, they
did that in May for moms. So in June, they
have a resource titled The Seven Marks of a Healthy dad.
Do you know what they are? Carenet is the pro
abundant life ministry. Meaning they're not just for the unborn.
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They're for everyone in the equation of making decisions about
the unborn. And they believe men are often overlooked on
the issue of abortion when their voice needs to be heard.
So as part of their pro abundant life approach, Carenet
is offering the free devotional for men The Seven Marks
of a Healthy Dad. Just go to Chris Fabry. Org.
There's a green connect button or connect link right there
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and you'll see how to get your copy. Dads do
that today. Go to Chris fabry.org, click the green connect
button and find out what are the seven marks of
a healthy Dad Chris fabric.org, where you'll also find out
about more about my guest Greg Wheatley. And we've got
a link. We haven't mentioned this yet a link to
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Sound of Majesty, the website, and I was listening to
I told you before we went on the the air
here I was listening today A to. Every time I
feel the spirit moving in my heart, I will pray.
And you've got some great music that streams around. It's
like 24 hours, isn't it?
S3 (27:42):
It is? Yeah, 24 hours a day. And, uh, every
other hour is the, um, Sound of Majesty programs that
we produced back in the day at Moody Radio. And
then on the other hours, it's just a selection of music. And, um,
we also have started, Chris, if I can mention this, a, um,
monthly e-news where we talk about, uh, briefly talk about
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a hymn text and pick a new one each time. So, um,
and that's free. And people can get that when they
go to that same website. Just hit the sign up
for E-news.
S1 (28:18):
So okay. Is that is the background music for that?
Is it a banjo?
S3 (28:23):
Uh, tell me more about that.
S1 (28:27):
I'll tell you afterwards. Okay. You know, I was thinking
about dads. I had this old Groucho Marx album. This
doesn't have anything to do with the program, but just
go with me and.
S3 (28:37):
I'm going with you. I always.
S10 (28:38):
Did.
S3 (28:38):
Go with you.
S1 (28:39):
I just he did all of these old songs from
vaudeville days and, you know, from the movies that he
did and all that stuff. And he sang, uh, today,
Father is Father's Day, and we're giving you a tie.
It's just our way of saying that we think you're
a regular guy.
S11 (28:57):
And I've never been able to forget that.
S3 (28:59):
I've never heard it. Thanks. Thanks a lot for that.
S10 (29:02):
It's.
S11 (29:02):
It's stuck way back.
S1 (29:03):
In there in the synapses. Gary is in Addison, Illinois. Hi, Gary.
Welcome to the program.
S12 (29:09):
How are you doing?
S11 (29:10):
Doing great.
S1 (29:11):
Thank you.
S12 (29:12):
Praise God. Yeah. The song I was the other day.
You know, you're praying and you're seeking the Lord and
you're battling through, uh, things that are coming in your
mind and situations you have in your life. And this
oldie but a goodie came to me. Uh, we will
understand it better by and by. I know you probably
heard it before.
S13 (29:32):
Understand it better by and by.
S1 (29:41):
Is that it?
S12 (29:42):
Yeah. It's, um. You get more upbeat. It's sort of like.
Like you said, banjo music. It's sort of like upbeat song.
S1 (29:50):
Bring the banjo in. Yeah. This sounds like a southern gospel. Uh,
feel or chorus feel. So what? What do you think?
Why did that song come to you, Gary?
S12 (30:03):
Well, you're, um. You're going through tests and trial and, um,
sometimes you don't understand, um, the length or the or
what you have to deal with, but you're, you know,
your god is faithful, and and it says, um, uh,
seek ye first the kingdom of God and all his
righteousness and everything else shall be added unto you. You're
quoting verses, promises and so on to and get the victory.
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And then that song came to me. It's, um. It's
it's I got some research on it because I, I
wanted to find out, but we sang it in church
when I was first saved. Charles Tinley, 1905, wrote the
music and the lyrics, and it's off of, like, First
Corinthians 1312. For now we see through a glass darkly.
But then face to face. Now I know in part.
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But then I know even also as I am known.
So he went with that verse and, um, produced the song, um,
you know.
S1 (30:56):
Okay, this is rich. This is so rich, Gary, because
I went to Hymnary.org. Charles Tindley was born in Maryland,
1851 July 7th, son of Charles and Hester. His father
was a slave. His mother was free. Hester died when
he was very young. He was taken in by his
mother's sister in order to keep his freedom. It seems
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that he was expected to work to help the family.
In his book sermons, 1932, he speaks about being hired
out as a young boy wherever her father could place me.
So the hymn then starts with there's four verses that
I have here. We are often tossed and driven on
the restless sea of time. Somber skies and howling tempests
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oft succeed. A bright sunshine in that land of perfect day.
When the mists have rolled away. We will understand it
better by and by. And then it goes through the
trials and temptations and other things. I no wonder you
thought about that, Greg. What do you think about that?
That song. That hymn text?
S3 (32:02):
Yeah, I recognize it. I recognized it right away. So, um,
and and again, you've got the attachment to a specific
event or memory or something that's very important. But in
you've got a song that's very singable, memorable kind of
in song form. Uh, a more popular kind of form.
(32:25):
And so you've got all the, you've got all the
ingredients to to make it a memorable, uh, kind of thing.
S1 (32:31):
I think. See, here's the thing, Gary. What happens is
that I often say you are our best resource. You know,
our listeners are our best resource. And you've taken us
to another level here, because my guess is there's somebody
who needed to hear that song or the idea behind
that song because they're tossed on the restless sea, you know,
(32:52):
in their own life. So you've spoken into somebody else's
life today.
S12 (32:56):
Right? And, um, it everybody needs it in their time of, uh, test,
time of trial. And, um, you don't understand what God's
doing sometimes, but you're trusting him, and you will understand
it better by and by, you know, and the and the, um,
all these, uh, stanzas, you know, the chorus and the
stanza are like the same, uh, music. So it's very
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easy to sing. Yes. You know.
S1 (33:22):
Repetition by and by, when the morning comes, all the
saints of God are gathered home. We will tell the
story how we've overcome. We will understand it better by
and by. Um, you were going to say something else, Greg,
about that?
S3 (33:34):
Well, I just I think what he brings up is
really important. I had a note jotted down here to
to talk about it. The repetition of stanzas or verses, um,
that aids in remembering is honestly something that I think
some of our contemporary music is missing. Um, and it's,
it's part of the power of hymnody because it's, it's
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what we call strophic, uh, which is just kind of
a fancy word for verses. Right? Um, so when you
get the repetition of verses, you have a chance each,
each time the stanzas, words change, but the music comes back.
And so you're not constantly learning new musical elements. You're,
you're you're able to hook those to the text that
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you're singing. So.
S1 (34:20):
Yeah. And the and the different and can it be? See,
I've got a hymnal and I. You know, I probably
shouldn't go negative on this because everything's been so positive
so far. But it's like. And can it be they've
only got four verses of an. Can it be in
my hymnal that my daughter gave me as a present?
How can you sing and can it be and leave
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out that third verse which I think.
S3 (34:46):
Is left out?
S1 (34:47):
I think it was long. My imprisoned spirit lay fast bound.
S3 (34:51):
My, that's not in there.
S1 (34:51):
It was like everything falls apart if you take that. Oh, yeah.
You know.
S3 (34:56):
Yeah. It's all got me going.
S1 (34:58):
Yeah, I know, I know, but I'm not going to
go negative here. I'm not going to go negative because
I don't want this to be implanted in your brain.
And it'll bring it up again. But just make sure
that if you look at hymnals and you're going to
buy one, that it has all five verses, and there's
probably more than that, you know, in the original writing. Gary.
God bless you, friend. Thank you for calling today. Patrick
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is in Florida. Patrick, why did you call?
S14 (35:22):
Afternoon to you. I was telling the young gal that
picked up my my call. She really. She brought back
my memory. Whistle while you work.
S15 (35:33):
Just whistle while you work.
S16 (35:37):
That's it.
S15 (35:38):
And cheerfully together we can tidy up the place. So good. Okay.
S1 (35:44):
So, Patrick, why did that come into your mind?
S14 (35:47):
Do you think? When I went, you know, when I
was ten years old. I grew up on a small farm,
and I don't whistle like that much anymore. But way
back when I was doing a lot of work, I'd
be sweating like a dog, and I'd whistle that. And
because of my memory of those dwarfs. Whistle while you work,
you know, I always brought a smile to my face,
even when I went into my 20s and 30s, uh,
(36:10):
the song never left. Never left me whenever I was
working hard, I, you know, retired fireman. So when we'd
be loading hose that mine would be in my in,
you know, that that song would be in my head. Yeah,
but I don't whistle it much anymore though, buddy.
S1 (36:24):
Ah, well.
S14 (36:26):
I'm retired.
S1 (36:27):
Yeah, and you probably are whistling other songs, but it
came back to you as soon as you heard what
we were talking about today. That's what you thought of, right?
S14 (36:34):
And then it an immediate smile. It just brought back
those old days because when I, I always was happy
in my heart. Even though I was working like a dog. Uh,
but yes, you're right. The other one is, uh. Swing low,
sweet chariot. That's the only part I know, but I
used to sing. My daughter's asleep with that. Papa, can
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you swing? Sing that to us? That's another one. And, uh.
But it did bring a smile to my face that
showed that. Well done.
S1 (37:03):
Such rich memories there. And especially that the lullabies. Greg,
to sing the songs that you sang to your children,
or the song that you remember your parents singing to you,
those are rich.
S3 (37:15):
Yeah, well, think about, you know, in terms of a lullaby.
Think about what that's doing, you know, for kids and
for parents. The bedtime is one of the most, you know,
tender moments, right, of raising our kids. And, um, so
why not? You know, those should be memorable to us.
S17 (37:35):
You know, one of the questions I've always had is.
S1 (37:37):
Did did Mary sing a lullaby to Jesus? You know, when,
when she was rocking him to sleep and what was
it and what was? I've always wondered, you know, and
they sang an hymn and went out, you know, to
the Mount of Olives, um, and to the garden. What
was the hymn that they sang? And will we be
able to? We talked with John Kessler yesterday about heaven,
(38:00):
and we'll be able to sing the same hymns that
they sang, you know, in the first century back then, uh,
in heaven, or will we sing any other songs that
we now sing or any of the hymns in the
hymnal and all the verses of and can it be
we'll be able to do that in heaven? What do
you think about that?
S3 (38:18):
I hope so, I mean, at least, let's say the
best of the best, right? Um, and and we'll sing
a new song. So, you know, I think there's a
place for newly, newly created. But I hope so. I mean,
I was just talking to Jennifer the other day about
this idea of whether heaven is in continuity with our
(38:38):
current life or it's this total. I think I grew
up thinking there was this complete break, like, when you
go to heaven, nothing of earth is left. It's just,
you know, like a brick wall. And I just don't
think that I don't think that's the picture of the
new heavens and new earth. I think I think we're
going to be able to remember the best things and
(38:58):
what God did in this life. Um, there certainly won't
be any sorrow or tears, but, um, you know, I
just think. I think why not? Why would God waste
all the good things that he's already given us? And, um,
I'm hoping that's hymns are a part of that as well.
S1 (39:15):
One of the good things is, is purpose and work
is a part of what we do now. And if
work was a part of the garden before the fall,
why wouldn't work be a part of you know, what
we're doing there or something? We do. And I can
see you getting together a chorale of people, um, a
chorale of people and, you know, and singing and leading
(39:38):
because you did that for for a lot, many years.
You know, it's a real joy for you to be
able to get these voices together and to sing. Won't
it be great when everybody has perfect pitch?
S3 (39:48):
I was going to say we have to be in
tune all the time. Yeah, exactly.
S1 (39:52):
All right. I want to be in that number and
counted in that number.
S3 (39:56):
Will you make sure there will be. There will be
an audition. But I'm confident you can pass it, so.
S1 (40:02):
Yeah. Wonder what the audition song is going to be. Okay,
this is good. We're talking about the song that kind
of came to you unbidden. Uh, whether it's whistle while
you work or a hymn. We've got more responses straight ahead.
This is Chris Fabry live on Moody Radio.
S16 (40:29):
This is Chris Fabry.
S1 (40:30):
Live on Moody Radio. Thanks a lot for joining us today.
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(41:15):
heard people say, oh, I wish I could hear sound
of majesty. Well, friend, you can. It's online. It's 24 hours.
And this e-news that Greg mentioned about each week he
sends one him and the story behind that him and
responding to that him. It's not necessarily the story. And
in toto. Right, Greg?
S3 (41:36):
No, it's more actually, um, it's not so much, you know,
the story behind the hymn. It's more a theological look
at the text. We kind of try to take it
apart and talk about why it's, you know, why it's
important for us and just just to be truth in advertising.
It's not weekly. It's more like monthly.
S1 (41:54):
So it's monthly.
S3 (41:55):
Okay. Yeah.
S1 (41:56):
Well, we'll we'll get you to do it every week.
S3 (41:58):
Now, you just suddenly made my life a whole lot worse. Yeah.
S16 (42:02):
Okay, so.
S1 (42:03):
Wilda is in Ohio. Wilda, tell me why you called.
S18 (42:07):
Well, you said, um, something about people waking up with
a song on their. On their mind or singing a song.
And you said, was you the only one done things
like that? No you're not. Um. I used to wake
up more often than I have lately, but the last
time I woke up singing, it was no. Not one.
S16 (42:30):
Oh.
S1 (42:31):
The old hymn by Johnson Oatman junior and, uh, George
hug Greg, the, uh, the person on the right is
the music, and the person on the left is the text. Right.
S3 (42:41):
Uh, other way around.
S19 (42:43):
It's the other way around.
S1 (42:44):
The right. John Oatman wrote da da da da da
da da da da da. Okay, here we go.
S9 (42:51):
Right.
S20 (42:51):
That's it. There's not a friend like the Lord Jesus. No.
Not one.
S16 (43:02):
Okay, so talk about.
S1 (43:03):
The the tempo of that, Greg, because there's you can't
separate the tempo with the lyrics, can you.
S3 (43:10):
Yeah. It's interesting you asked that I the minute that started,
I thought, wow, they're singing that fast. Um, yeah, that's
a little that that was. It's brisk. Um. Is that
what you mean? Is that what you're asking?
S1 (43:23):
Well, yeah, when I sing it, if I'm just playing
my banjo or guitar, I change up the tempo a
little bit. And da da da da.
S2 (43:33):
Da da da da.
S1 (43:35):
Da. You know, you can, you can. Yeah. They're malleable.
S3 (43:38):
Right? A little more free. Yeah. Yeah.
S1 (43:40):
But it has a repetition at the end of every,
not just in the chorus but at the end. No.
Not one, no not one. They're emphasizing that, um, that
there's there's not one here. There's not a friend like
the lowly Jesus. No friend like him is so high
and holy. No. Not one. There's not an hour that
he is not near us. No. Not one, no. Not one.
(44:02):
So that's the. Why do you think that hymn sang
in your heart?
S18 (44:08):
I don't know, we sing that at church, but I
don't remember that we had sung it recently at that time,
but I. I have wondered since if maybe God put
that on my mind as a, as a motivation. Uh,
or and that's the wrong word. But to to, um,
(44:29):
to write because I do write and it was shortly
after that, maybe the next week. I don't know that
I wrote, um, about that song and what it means and,
and the blessings that it brings to me.
S1 (44:41):
Yes. Well, there's such confidence in that, in that text,
and and it's giving you courage for whatever is in
front of you or or or help for what's behind you. And,
you know, things that have have happened to you. Um,
and I think that's one of the things that happens
(45:01):
with hymns, Greg, is and, and they connect us with
the previous generation and then the generations before us. Right?
S3 (45:10):
Yeah, they sure do. Uh, if you look through, you know,
if you thumb through your hymnal, um, and just look
at dates, you'll find the whole gamut of relatively recent
to really, really old. Uh, in a lot of hymnals,
there's at least 1 or 2 hymns that go back
to like fourth century, maybe. Right. So, um, yeah. What's
the oldest.
S1 (45:30):
Hymn? What's the oldest hymn that you know?
S3 (45:33):
Oh, you mean that something that we would commonly call
a hymn in our hymnal? Yeah, probably. There's a, um.
The name is escaping me, and I hear the music
for a.
S1 (45:43):
Break, so.
S3 (45:44):
Let me think about that.
S1 (45:46):
Yeah. We'll get we'll do it next week. Um, yeah.
There's one that's like a Gregorian chant type of thing.
That is.
S3 (45:52):
Yeah.
S1 (45:53):
That's way back there. But I put you on the spot. Uh,
we'll do we'll do that again sometime. Okay.
S3 (45:59):
Give me time to study.
S1 (46:00):
I can't believe that we're done. This is that is just.
I was I was ready to go to Linda in Holland,
Michigan and talk about blessed assurance that she said, I
remember in my youth they used to sing it whenever
someone got saved at church. In my reading this morning, um,
Psalm 126, at the end of it, it says you
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they will you will bring the sheaves with you. And
I thought bringing in the sheaves. And then on Facebook
a listener said, bringing in the sheaves. It's like it
all comes together here. So yeah, if you didn't get
on today, uh, send me an email answer on Facebook.
I'd love to hear this song that popped into your
into your mind. And we'll do this again at some point.
(46:41):
Maybe we'll even do it in connection with Father's Day.
I've got an idea about that. So Greg Wheatley, thanks
a lot for joining us today. God bless you friend.
S3 (46:51):
Thanks, Chris. Always good to be with you.
S1 (46:54):
Have a great weekend. And remember Chris Fabry Live is
a production of Moody Radio, a ministry of Moody Bible
Institute online. Chris Fabry live. Org.
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