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May 7, 2025 70 mins

On today's show, we chat with Sanctus Real!

If Sanctus Real has learned anything over the course of their career, it’s this: We’re all a work in progress. For Dustin Lolli (lead vocals) and founding members Chris Rohman (guitar) and Mark Graalman (drums), it’s a refining that’s been realized through hard-won seasons as a band. The

result is a bond of remarkable musicians that are making the best music of their career, and coming out on the other side more resilient than ever before.  Since forming in Toledo, Ohio, in the mid-’90s, Sanctus Real has become one of the most well-loved artists in Christian music. With eight No. 1 songs, 19 Top 10 hits and more than 2 million singles sold, their catalog boasts well-known anthems like “Lead Me,” “I’m Not Alright,” “Forgiven,” “My God Is Still

the Same” and RIAA Gold®-certified single “Confidence.” With a pair of GRAMMY® nominations, a GMA Dove Award and massive streaming numbers that place them in an elite tier of Christian artists

garnering more than 2.5 million listeners a month on Spotify alone, the trio has carved out a name for themselves with their raw lyrics and deft musicianship, evidenced during their critically lauded live shows.

  “The Difference” was built on top of a singular guitar riff Rohman created. Once the principle vibe was laid, the lyrics came easily as Lolli, Rohman and their collaborators — songwriters

Matt Armstrong and AJ Pruis — began talking about a key difference between believers and non-believers: Hope.

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