Transforming Loss Into Liberation: The Power Of Faith ft Kenisha Nichelle

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this love and it's good vibes thatI am sending you, guys. But
again, thank you guys for joiningme back for another episode. So as
we are continuing to move through themonth of March and Women's History Month,
I have another lovely guest joining ustoday that is going to share her journey
as well as offer some words ofinsight as well as encouragement to us today.

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All Right, the guest of thealbum is Miss Kanisha and Nachelle.
She is a life coach and author, a motivational speaker, and the founder
and CEO of k NBA Global.So our Thesist is in the sports media
world. She is embarking on manyendeavors at this time, but she is

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also sharing her story and using herstory of mental health and grief as a
way to help others navigate their ownpersonal development and healing journeys. She strives
to help others find their inner strengthand resilience, and that is what she
is going to do for us today. Kanisha and I recorded this conversation a

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few months ago, and this wasvery impactful in my life as well as
different things that have happened to meover the last couple months. And I'm
extremely grateful for the opportunity to haveKanisha a part of my life and on
this platform. And I know thatshe will pour into you guys the same
way that she has poured into meand motivated me to do some amazing things.

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So sit back, relax, openyour hearts and minds, and enjoying
this conversation with Kanisha and I andI will see you guys at the end.
All right, y'all, welcome backto another episode of Chronicles of a
Virgo podcast and as you see today, we are joined by another lovely guest.

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The guest of the hour is MissKanisha Nachelle. How are you doing
today, lady? I am doingwell. I'm doing well. How about
you? I am doing good?Can't complain, can't complain? Yeah,
but we are here right, wouldit do? Yes? Thank you so
much for joining us for this lovelyconversation. So, as explained in the

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intro, you are entrepreneur, motivationalspeaker, You are a life coach as
well as you are the CEO andfounder of k NBA Global. Okay,
y'all, So she is a womanof many things. So this conversation we
are going to get into some things. So before we get into our lovely

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conversation, we have to start withour lovely mental health check. So we
do you me in health check righton the scale of one to five,
five being that you are feeling goodtoday, one being you're not feeling the
best. You have some room forporn, but you are managing. So
where would you rate your mental healthtoday on the scale of one to five.

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I took a breath because I'm like, I want to be, you
know, fully present in this,and I would say I'm probably at about
a between a three and a four. I met at three and four only
because you know, I've got hitleft and right with some you know,
some some social media posts, ifyou will, and some things that became

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triggering for me that has to dowith my career and just kind of blast
from the past, if you will, And so within the last twenty four
hours spend a little little rough totry to navigate through. And so,
you know, I think I'm onthe other side and I'm definitely gonna be
fine. But it's it's it's putme in a position where I've got to

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stop and pause and kind of reevaluate some things. And while things have
been smooth sailing coming off of agood weekend, you know, getting hit
in the face with you know,some some comments and some people challenging me.
You know, it's it's bringing tolight a few things. So that
would be all right, I'm gonnabe okay, yes, girl, you

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and just a question, how areyou like navigating that time right now?
So I have to refocus myself onthe word. I know that my flesh
wants to respond in certain ways,you know, my my flesh is ready
to clap back. My flesh isready to put people in their place,

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right, But I know that theposition that I'm in, both professionally and
just me as a person, Godwould not be pleased. And so I
am having to step back and say, Okay, let's not do this the
way that our flesh would want toBut how can we do this and still
you know, get a point acrossif you will or not let anyone feel

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that they can mistreat me or talknegative to me, but do it in
such a way that it still bringshonor and grace to God. So that's
where I am right now, justkind of positioning myself to you know,
our recognition. You can't be that, oh girl, you know you're walking
in a new season. Trust tome. Social media can be a gift

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and a curse. It's been avery dark weekend on social media, so
it's been a lot of things inthe celebrity run, but I think a
lot of that emotion and stuff pourout to regular people. So thank you
for being vulnerable, and you know, I hope you continue to stay grounded
and navigate the path because, likeyou said, the flash boy be wanting

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to just jump out the gate,but all of it squared out. Yeah
a girl, but you know it'sno obedient. But you know, I
feel like you'll be good and likeyou said, staying your word, because
that's what I'd be having to doa lot of times too, because yeah,
that's it, but it shows theham inside of you. You too,

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You know, thank you, yes, thank you for that. So
my mental today on scale of oneto five, I want to say,
I am at a I'm a fourand a half. I've been four and
a half in a lot. Yeah, So today was my first day back
to work. Everyone knows that Iwas off for the month of January,
so I made my way back todayfeeling a lot lighter. I felt refreshed.

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I really needed the time off.I'm grateful that I was presented with
that paid of course, all rightnow, yes, but it gave me
time to like really take care ofmy mental health, my wellness, and
be in a relationship with God alot. I was in my prayer corner
and going my Bible studying stuff.So I'm just going to be consistent and

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obedient in those areas. But yeah, so, which is a busy day,
but like I said, it waslike a four and a half ish.
I do these mental health checks asa way to continue to hold myself
accountable, to make sure I'm okay, to take some deep breaths when i
feel like I'm getting all worked outor when my flesh want to jump out
there and respond, come back andreground myself, and to take my power

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back, but to also encourage everyoneelse to check in with themselves, make
sure they're okay, have that internaldialogue, talk out loud to yourself,
you know, just hey, amI good if I'm not trying to figure
out what's going on? So thankyou for taking part of our lovely mental
health check. Okay, it's like, yall, we're gonna get into some

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things. This conversation is going tobe centered around navigating life, navigating obstacles,
but still trying to hold on tofaith because I feel like, at
least speaking for me and other people, I know life be life in and
trying to have faith that it's goingto get better or faith that it is

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a reason for what we're going through. It doesn't make sense to us.
And Miss Kenisha is going to tellher story, but I want to start
a little different today. Before youjump into your story, something stood out
to me as I was being nosythough my research. I know you're a
life coach and a speaker and thingslike that. I've seen some quotes that

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you had listed on your site,and two of them stood out to me.
One specifically, was you have thepower to do the impossible if you
can just believe, and I feellike that res it's a light with this
whole faith talk. What where didthat come from? Where did that quote
come from? Uh, well it'sBible, but remix obviously in my own

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words. So there's a scripture andplease forgive me that I don't know on
the top of my head. Butyou know, all things are possible with
God, right, And I feelthat as long as we are in a
place where no matter what we're goingthrough, no matter the challenges that may
be presented to us, if wecan just hold on to just a mustard

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seed sized faith, right, thenanything is possible for us to either get
through or to accomplish. You know, I'm sure a lot of you guys
out there probably have dreams and goalsand things that you want to achieve.
But if you are willing to wellfor one conjured up in your mind,
that just simply means that God gaveit to you. So that means it
is possible. But now we gotto put forth the effort and the energy

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to make it come to life.So I truly believe that nothing is impossible
as long as one we believe deepdown inside that we are to have it,
we are to be it, weare to do it, and then
if we're willing to actually put forththe effort and energy behind it to make
it happen. I love it.And having the faith of the must to

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see is something that I have toremind myself of because the must to seed
is so small, and as longas my faith is at least equivalent to
that or more, I know thatI'm going to just supersede whatever whatever I
got going on. You know,even though it gets hard sometimes, right
I said, you go through obstacles, different changes in life. I know

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a lot of your story has todo with grief. So, however much
you're willing to talk about whatever yourcomfort level is, can you take us
on the journey of you navigating grief? Like I don't want to. I
want you to. I want youto say you to talk about it.
And it feels me just jumping outthere because I don't like to get anything

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wrong. That's just taking me onyour journey of navigating grief. Sure,
sure so. And I'm not oneof those ones who am shy to tell
my age because my age is applicableto my story. So right now today
I'm thirty seven, but I wasfirst met with grief at the age of
twelve, and really people passed beforethen, but most significantly was at the

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age of twelve, where I wasa daddy's girl and my father was a
police officer and on a Thursday,I got abruptly pulled out of school because
he was at a routine training exerciseand had a massive aneurysm while on the
job. That happened on a Thursday, and by Saturday he was pronounced branded.

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So I lost my father at theage of twelve, and that,
you know, completely rocked my worldbecause, like I said, I was
a daddy's girl. We pretty muchhave his name. His name is Kenneth
Kenisha, and we had special bondingdays where we would just hang out,
go shopping, go do activities andthings. So my world was really turned
upside down at a very early age. I didn't know anything about processing pain.

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I didn't know anything about talking aboutmy feelings and all that kind of
stuff, because again, it wastaboo right in the African American community.
We don't talk about it, andespecially with children. And it's not that
I acted out, but I doknow, and I do very much remember
that I was experiencing pain because Iwas missing him, and while I can

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you know, kind of maneuver throughit. Now, I did try to
cut my wrists, but with themother knife that was twelve I know,
no member, but it's the factthat I had that thought, and it's
the fact that I thought that thatwould be a solution to the pain that
I was feeling. And so becauseof that, my stepmother at the time,
she found me and you know,she was like, what are you

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doing and all this kind of stuff. So my family, you know,
noticed that, okay, Kanisha doesneed some help with processing this. So
they put me in you know,child group therapy classes and I learned you
know, color therapy, art therapy, talking it out with other people and
other kids who could relate. Sothat was really the first you know opportunity
if you will, that I dealtwith grief. To fast forward. So

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I am an only child, soafter my mother, I'm sorry, after
my father passed, I did eventually, you know, move in with my
mom and I finished you know,the rest of grade school with her until
I left for college. Well,my freshman year of college, I found
out my mother was diagnosed with stagethree breast cancer and at the time I
was living about an hour away fromhome. So even though I was close,

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because you wouldn't think an hour asfar, I was far because I
still, you know, just couldn'tgo down the street when I wanted to.
So, you know, it's myonly living parent. I tried to
be with her as much as Icould, go to appointments, you know,
just be around and you know,all those kinds of things. And
it took its toll on me whileI was in college. And so literally

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every fall semester, although she wouldgo into remission, the cancer would come
back. And so in two thousandand seven it came back. It had
metastasized from breast cancer to her brainand then to her lungs. And in
July two thousand and seven, mymother did pass away from the breast cancer.
And so again that's when I reallyrealized, Okay, Knisha, you're

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you're an orphan. You're twenty oneyears old, and you no longer have
parents, and so you know,it was hard. It was very difficult.
And I talk about when I talkabout dairy grief, you know,
and processing the trauma, I hadcompound grief, whereas not only did I
lose my mother, but the weekbefore I lost my uncle. And fast

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forward two months later, I lostmy grandfather. Then on top of that
with losing my mother, that meantthat, you know, I didn't know
about finances or her finances. Thehouse was our house was in foreclosure.
So I ended up having to moveout of my home and I had an
aunt to take me in. Sotheoretically I became homeless because I didn't have,

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you know, a place to actuallycall home that was you know ours.
You know, of course the familytaking me in, grateful for that,
but when you think about it,it's like, not only did I
lose her, I lost you know, my sense of you know, safety
if you will. And so shepassed in July and classes resumed in August,
and so I had a month tofigure out, you know, okay,

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this new normal. And at thetime, like I said, I
was a junior in college. Iwas a student athletic trainer at the time,
working with the women's basketball team.I was full time student, I
was a new sty member, andI was working part time at the bookstore
because you know, my mother didn'thave a lot of income because she was
sick, so I was trying tosupplement by you know, picking up a

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few hours at the bookstore. Soall of that stuff was happening, and
you know, I showed back oncamp, showed back up on campus as
if you know, everything was justwhat it was like, Eh, my
mother died, it's all right,and it wasn't okay. And while I
had people who supported me and Ihad you know, friends who were there,
they didn't understand because they did notwalk in these shoes. And so

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again, being that hour away fromhome, it was tough. And you
know, there were times where Ijust wanted to go home and just be
loved on by my grandparents, tojust get a home cooked meal, just
have a sense of you know,comfort, and it was hard to get.
And so unfortunately I had a supervisorwhen I was a trainer to tell
me the time that I did makea request to go home, she told

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me no, She said, no, I need you to stay here,
and you need to be here withus for the weekend. I think it
was a long weekend, like wemay have had Friday and Monday off something
like that, but it was along weekend. I felt it was appropriate
that I could go home. Weweren't in basketball season. She told me
no, and so I was thatwas literally the catapult of just sent me

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spiring. And so I remember takingmy keys off my key ring and I
handed them to her and I said, I quit. And that was the
last day that I was a studenttrainer. I went back to my apartment,
I packed up some clothes, youknow, packed up my things,
got on the road, went backto my hometown, which is Louisville,
Kentucky. I stopped at the drugstore to pick up some narcotics and some

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alcohol, and I went back tomy aunt's house and I sent a couple
of text messages just telling my family, Hey, I can't do this no
more. So I love y'all.And I took the pills and I took
the alcohol and got in the bedand just prayed that I didn't wake up.
And yeah, that that's literally thepeak of my grief because I did

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not do anything. I really didn'tdo anything to process it. I just
was like, Okay, this islife, and we got to go on
and we got to keep moving.But I did not take the time to
actually realize what was happening. Andso you know, when I share that
story, of course, I alwayscome back and say thank God that I'm
here. You know, God definitelyhad another plan, you know, I'm
grateful for that, but that wasactually the turning point for me to get

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to the other side of my grief. So I hope that wasn't too long.
But that is my story in anutshell. So yeah, yes,
And I'm so grateful that you're stillhere to tell your story because just following
you on social media in your post, like you have a powerful voice,

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and like, yes, of course, and like you said, there was
a reason. There was a reasonthat did not work, you know,
and I'm glad that it didn't.And you know, I have so much
empathy in my heart for you andjust hearing your story. I lost my
grandmother in twenty twenty to COVID andmy grandfather passed right behind her, and

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those two were like my right hire, you know. Okay, it's just
something about grandparents, you know,no offense to the aunties, uncles and
you know, love hit different,right. So these last couple of years,
like I told you before, Ijust feel like I don't understand this

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journey and this is such a toughtopic and things to try to even navigate
and talk about. But you wantto say the right things, but you
don't know what to say. AndI know that you were like very young
when your experience everything started and youas a child you said you went to
therapy. Now after your suicidal attempt, was there any more therapy or any

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patience days anything like that after that? Yes? Yes, So of course
my text message just sent a chainreaction to everybody like where's can like somebody
go get kniesia. And it's notfunny, But it's funny because I have
a cousin who I'm very very closeto, so I say it to my
sister. So she's one of thosepersons that I sent him as stitute,

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and she lives in New York,and so somehow she was able to get
the message to the people in Louisvilleto basically come and bust down the doors
and to find me. So obviouslyI'm grateful for her. But it's it's
funny because I'm like, dang,you're already New York. I'm thinking you're
away, You're not gonna But again, I'm definitely grateful for her. But

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yes, so they found me.Of course, you know, call MS
And then when I came to Ido distinctly remember, you know, them
asking me, you know, doyou want to get some help? And
I told him yes, I saidyes, and so I did. I
did get committed to a mental institution, impatient for four days. Again,

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I say that was a turning pointbecause it was horrible. It was a
terrible spence. It was terrible inthe fact that I didn't know what I
was getting myself into, right,I agreed, but I didn't know what
came with it. And so foran example, I had a roommate and

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so I'm in this room. Itkind of feels like prison a little bit.
So I was in this room andI had a roommate and she,
you know, she was having amental episode, but it was because she
was a rape victim and because ofus, you know, obviously just talking,
it's just us, you know.I God really spoke to me and

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just allowed me to know that Iand I heard him say, like,
I know that you're going through this, and I know that it hurts like
hell, but you're not going throughthat. And so while somebody else did
have a much horrible story, itallowed me to look at my situation and
say, yes, this is messedup, this is unfair. You don't

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deserve this, But it's not thatyou still have family who care because that's
why you're here. You still havea God who can because that's why you're
here. And so it was littlenuggets and little moments like that that helped
me to realize, Okay, it'snot it's bad. It's bad, but
it's not that I'm not being beat, I'm not being you know, molested.

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I'm not going through those things thatin this situation I would feel is
something worse. Off. Of coursethat's bad, and that's bad on its
own. Of course I'm not eversugarcoating that, but just in comparison,
in that particular moment, you know, it resonated that this wasn't that,
and so I had to count myblessings. But it was tough. You

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know. They they locked the bathroomsat night because I guess they don't want
you to go in and try todrown yourself. And when you take medication,
they're checking in your mouth. Andoh, I used to I was
actually at least staff, yeah,I lease, staff on a child adolescent
line, specifically the girls unit.So it was a lack of facility and

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all those things keep everyone safe.So I definitely know the protocol. They
wouldn't let me have a cell phone, but my family snuck it and gave
it to me. I was likeyears ago. I was like, cause
I think we had just like apayphone, which you only had like three
minutes the time. I was like, that's ridiculous. So they snuck my

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phote in for me. But Iwill say again, that was another opportunity
for me to get have taught therapyto talk it out amongst other people.
But color therapy and art therapy wasit revisited my life. So I went
I had that opportunity when I wasmy dad, and then it kind of
brought itself back during this experience.And so that's why I am an advocate

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of coloring and just having a wayto get their thoughts and feelings out because
if you try to hold onto it. I give the analogy of just thinking
like of a balloon, Like you'reblown into the balloon and that's all the
stress, and that's everything that you'regoing through, the anxiety, the negative
thoughts. You know, you're blowingall of that into your life and at

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some point that boon is gonna burst, and what you don't want is for
that to happen and then you don'thave necessarily the same outcome. And so
tools and resources like that I fullysupport and have actually created my own because
I know the power and how ithas helped me definitely. And that was
something that being at the hospital,they didn't like the art therapy and music

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therapy. I like the music therapyon my unit. She would come in
and play her guitar and stuff.But it's definitely beneficial, like you said,
especially our I didn't realize prior toworking on the unit and in that
field overall, how therapeutic coloring was. So I'm glad that you gained that
from you know, your whole experienceand just it being therapeutic and you've been

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able to use it as a catalystfor your healing and now to produce it
for other people to do. Sowhere do you stand now with navigating your
like mental health journey as well aslike, I guess i'll say, like
your spiritual journey. So on themental health journey, it actually took a

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situation, if you will, forlack of better words, in twenty twenty
to actually send me back to therapy. I had been and I had done
it back then, but to becompletely transparent. As I got older and
you know, just life doing whatlife does. I turned away and actually
didn't want to do it because Ifelt that I had so much baggage that

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I didn't even think it was possiblefor me to even like process it all,
do it all. And I justI just carried it. And you
know, like I said, I'vecome through that story that I shared,
and you know, I'm grateful andthankful that I haven't had, you know,
any other suicidal thoughts since that episode. But you know, life still

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does what it does. You stillhave those thoughts. And I tell you,
I used to be one of thosepeople that is woe is Me because
I have been through so much.It's like, come on, God,
like, how much more are yougoing to keep putting me through? You
know, I've been through car accidents. I've been through layoffs and losing a
job. I've been through sickness andmy own cancer scares. It's like,
okay, why does all of thisstuff keep showing up? And so it

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forced me in twenty twenty to finda therapist and to say, all right,
let me start processing. I wentfor a issue that was that had
come up in my life, andonce you know, kind of work through
that issue, then of course,if you've been to therapy, you know,
they start peeling back the layers andall those kind of things. So

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all the other things started coming up. And so I am happy to share
that while I started, I believeI started in June of twenty twenty,
I officially graduated therapy in December oftwenty twenty three. I just graud.
That's good though, So it tookme three listen, but like I didn't

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know there was a timeline of completion, you know, so yes, not
a timeline for sure, but that'sgood. Do you think that it matters
how long a person is in therapy? Though? No, No, I
was doing it to myself just becauseof I just felt like I had two
just oversized luggages that I was gonnahave to bring in. And you know,
you don't try to unpack everything,you know in one session. Like

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if you think that that's gonna bethe case, then you're sadly mistaken,
right if you've ever been to therapyor you know, you know, like
I said, the therapists deal withthe past, so they want to go
and find the root cause of whyyou're doing or behaving a certain way,
and so that's what and you're notgonna do that in an hour, so

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it's going to take time. Andthen once you find one thing, then
they're going to start picking that apartand saying, why is that like that?
And then they find something else,and then we pick that apart.
You know. So it's great.You know, it's a safe space.
It's a time where you and yourtherapists just get to be one on one.

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You can say what you want,obviously if you're not gonna say anything
to hurt yourself or others, buteverything remains confidential. And so that was
my biggest spear factor was that Ijust felt like I had so much that
I was like, it's gonna takeme, you know, forever, And
in my opinion, it did takeforever. But you know, we eventually

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scaled back. I didn't have togo weekly as I did before, and
then eventually my therapists like, okay, well we can go bi weekly.
And then we got to a pointwhere she was like, okay, well
let's just do once a month checkins. And you know, she told
me that I could she could seethe language, my language was changing and
my perspective and outlooks was changing,and you know, she eventually got to

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the point where she was like,you're good. So now I have this
thing where you know, she toldme, we'll just you know, put
a reminder in your phone every month. I think the question is like,
do I need to do a checkin or something like that because things are
still going to happen, and soI'm still able to reach out to her,
you know, as needed, butI'm no longer you know, on

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a continuous schedule where I need toknow that every Thursday at eight o'clock I'm
checking in and having a session totalk things out. So yill listen.
I am an advocate for therapy,yeah all the time, Like because I'm
in therapy and I have been intherapy since twenty seventeen. Now see what

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happened was I switched it? Okay, okay because the one that I was
going to it was more like depressionanxiety. You know, she was helping
me. I realized during COVID.I was like, I need something a
little deeper. I need more traumainformed. My my stuff was trauma.
I found my therapist and I wentand I told her. I was like

(31:18):
listen. I already know how thisworks. I worke came into health.
You can't therapy, you can't counselyou with a book. Like I need
you to just be. You needme to be vulnerable and open. I
need you to do the same.And but there were things that I was
not ready to address that just froma few questions, I realized you just
got me to talk about stuff thatI didn't want to talk about about.

(31:42):
Here we are three years later,well going into four years, and I've
been able to really dig deep intothings. So I hope I get to
the graduation point series. I willwill keep at it, you know,
absolutely. So that's that's amazing though. And I love the fact that you
know, you speak so highly about, you know, your faith and your

(32:07):
relationship with God, but you werenot against going to therapy. And you
know, there's like many stigmas andmisconceptions when it comes to like the church
and then mental health. So whatare your thoughts in relation to kind of
drawing the two together and how isthat beneficial to you during your whole like

(32:28):
grieving and just your journey with navigatinglife. I think the stigma part is
is very real, for sure.I didn't. I didn't know that I
had an illness. I think this, I think that's how I want to
say it. I didn't know.I just felt that I experienced some really

(32:50):
messed up stuff, maybe losing myparents so early that, you know,
And again, I didn't know anybodyelse that has gone through that, so
I didn't know what to expect orwhat I'm supposed to be thinking or feeling.
So I just assumed that, well, if my parents are gone and
I haven't graduated college, I don'thave any children, I haven't got married,

(33:13):
I haven't got a job, Ihaven't accomplished anything, then why am
I here? And so I didn'tknow that that was really an illness to
like, having suicide of thoughts isconsidered an illness, and I did not
realize that. And so that's wherethe stigma for me came because I'm like,
well, no, I guess thisshould be normal, right, because

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I don't have parents, So howelse am I supposed to think? Am
I supposed to think that everything ispeachy and life is grand? Like?
No, like life sucks? Andso I think for me, that's where
the word stigma came in. AndI grew up in the church. You
know, grew up baptized. Imean, even as a twenty year old,

(33:55):
very involved. You know, I'mgoing to Bible study on Wednesdays,
all the things right. And sowhen my mother passed, I was very
much angry, like I'm like,no, dog, like this ain't it,
And so I stopped going. Iwas like, no, I can
find some other things I can dowith my tongue then to do this because

(34:17):
you took my parents from me,and so I turned away. I resulted,
of course to negative coping mechanisms andyou know, partying and all that
kind suffuse. Again, I'm stillcollege student, so I'm like, I'm
just gonna live my best life atthis point, so you know, I'm
out hanging out. I will saythat I did turn to travel. Now,

(34:42):
I'm still very much a lover oftravel, but I was not.
I was not doing it in ahealthy way. I didn't realize then that
my need for travel because I stillI still believe with my my stance on
travel that I do need a changeof scenery. I do like the mundane
routines of things really does mess withmy mental and so I still believe in

(35:06):
that. I'm still very much anadvocate just got back from a trip last
this weekend. But I was doingit then because I was running, and
I was doing it then, andI was doing it to the point where
I was lying to people like no, I'm gonna be here and then I'm
gone. Or you know my auntthat I was living with, you know,
I would park my car at theairport and she'd be like, did

(35:27):
you catch a flight? I'm likeno, And he got behind us in
New York because I just felt likegetting away, you know. So I
know that I was resulting to thosenegative coping mechanisms then, because again I
just thought that's what I'm supposed todo. But like I said, it

(35:50):
was God that realizing that he savedme for one, that told me,
without a doubt, okay, therehas to be a guy, because while
I was upset, he still founda to save me. So off of
that alone, you will never getme to deny. But they again,
but again, you know, itstill took a minute for me to fully

(36:12):
engulf myself back into you know,the routines of prayer and you know,
devotions and all those kind of things. It still took time. Don't tell
me it was. It was likea flip of a switch. But I
definitely have the realization that, youknow, God is there, and I've
honestly within the last couple of months, I would say, in twenty twenty

(36:35):
three is where I really truly cameto the realization that every single thing that
we go through God simply allows.There's nothing that happens to us or in
our lives that He doesn't first permit. Now, those some of those things
are hurtful, and some of thosethings are not pleasurable. We don't like
them. But Roman's eight twenty eightsays that I will call all things to

(37:00):
work together for good, the good, the bad, and the ugly.
And so when I look at thetimeline of my life, I can trace
back to the person I am todaybecause of losing my mother. Because if
I didn't lose her, then Iwould have never transferred schools, I would
have never changed my major, andI would not be this sports executive that

(37:24):
I am today. So while itwas painful as hell, and while I
will forever miss them, I canattribute a lot of who I am now
because of that situation. And soI think about it sometimes, like,
well, what if you know,she should have had a surgery that she
opted not to do, and Ithink that that is the reason why she

(37:45):
didn't make it. So, youknow, it's always those wood ifs,
well, what if she would havehad the surgery, and would she still
be here today? And so Ican look at my life and say,
well, no, if she wouldhave survived and everything would be fine,
then I would be an athletic trainerright now. And I don't know where
I would be, and I don'tknow what that life would have led to,

(38:07):
but I do know that I amwho I am today all goes back
to that situation. So I don'tknow if that was a roundabout answer,
but no, it was just Ijust got chills because I've heard I hear
that a lot when we go throughthings, it's always for a reason.
And I think a lot of timesbecause of the extent of the experiences that

(38:30):
we experience, whether it's you know, grief, mine just happened to be
sexual trauma and grief. You're like, I don't understand how this can make
me a better person, Like Idon't understand the message in this, but
like you said, you stick itout and you just continue to believe that
there is a greater purpose for it, and with you dealing with your journey

(38:53):
of losing you know, your parentsand everything else that you had to go
through in life, it made youthe person that you are today. So
I think that's a powerful story initself because you found the blessing in it.
I hate to say that, yeah, but the blessing in your journey.

(39:14):
I'll just say that, the blessingin your journey. Yeah. And
one more thing to add, andagain this is very recent that I've heard
this, that it has become profoundto me and I'm like, I have
a for real aha moment, isthat I was listening to a podcast and
the gentleman on the podcast said thatthe things that we go through is simply

(39:37):
because God trusts you with the story. And I said, oh, wow,
who because He's not going to givethat to everyone. But if you
look at yourself right now, youhave a platform where you are talking about
your story and you're advocating, andyou're sharing with other people your journey to

(39:59):
get through your grief and your sexualtrauma. And so God knew, as
awful as it is, he knewthat you would eventually do something with it.
Not that it's gonna happen immediately.You know, I didn't really start
talking about my journey until almost tenyears. Ten years was my turning point
because I got to a point whereI was I was actually mad at myself

(40:22):
for like being upset, overly upseton like their angel anniversaries, and God
showed me, like in twenty seventeen, I want you to celebrate yourself for
still being here. Let's not lookat it this morning, but now let's
celebrate. And so we don't knowhow long it's gonna take for that,
you know, that switch to hit. But I do believe, and like

(40:44):
I said, hearing that podcast messageand I'm like, that's it. Like
God literally trust you with that storybecause he knew you would do something with
it, and it's gonna do somethingto glorify him. So I mean that
hit me in my face, andI'm like, okay, I just smagged
me right here, sack me righthere. Let me ask you this,

(41:07):
if there was some where you areright now, the doubt you, if
there was something you could tell youryounger self during that time of navigating what
seemed like the most horrific time ofyour life, what would you tell your
younger self, Hm, it's notover until God says it's over. It's

(41:32):
simple, We've all heard it.But there's absolutely nothing that you will go
through that you will not get throughon the other side. And sometimes it's
going to take the tears, andit's going to take the questions right,

(41:53):
it's going to take wondering will Imake it? Will I see this all
the way through? But it's againholding on to that faith that if God
brought me to it, he reallywill see me through it. And it's
my faith that honestly has gotten meto this point and beyond, because you

(42:15):
know, there's there's no one ornothing out here that is going to be
there for you that's going to givethose reminders to you that you know,
all things are going to work togetherfor good. And I've done a series
on my Instagram war are not serious, But I just did a post last

(42:37):
week talking about, you know,prayer and sometimes you know, it gets
difficult to talk to God and youknow, we don't know what to say.
But I believe that if you couldjust say God help me, then
that's a prayer. And even Biblesays that He understands our groans. So
even if you don't have words tosay. God hears all of that,

(42:59):
he knows all, he sees allhe's He's allowed these things to be so,
but he's just waiting for you.And so sometimes it gets difficult and
we forget those scriptures and we forgetyou know, our upbringing. But if
you can just easily say God,I need you, you know, that's
the strength to keep getting up eachand every day. And you got to

(43:19):
find the small joice, find thesmall whims. So all of that together,
I think, is what I wouldtell my younger self. You know,
hard times are gonna come, andthere's gonna be things in life that
come that we just don't agree with, we don't like, or we don't
understand, but if we keep hopingon and holding on to that faith,
we'll see it through. I lovethat. I love that, and I'm

(43:40):
pretty sure your youngest self would haveappreciate those words. Heaven. I have
a quote, Heaven, I havea quote. This is this is from
you, This is from you,from me. Okay, life is to
be lived, not merely survived.Do you feel like you are in your
survival stage of life or do youfeel like you're finally thriving that is an

(44:06):
amazing, amazing question. I dobelieve right here on January thirtieth, that
I do believe that I have reacheda thriving stage. It is a long
time coming, a long time.And when I say like only recently,
I mean maybe within the last yearhave I felt like it's gotten to this

(44:29):
point. Now. I will prefacethis by saying this, and I always,
you know, say it when Ido these, you know, type
of interviews that even though I feellike I'm in a good space right now,
when I turn these cameras off,right, I still go back to
a life without my parents. Ihave a daughter. I have eleven year

(44:50):
old daughter that I'm raising and it'snot easy, you know. I have
so many questions and I can't pickup the phone and call my mother.
So while life is good, andyou know, I have begun to see
blessings from God, there are stilllittle nuances that I'm you know, forever

(45:12):
gonna have to endure, for lackof a better word, just because it
is what it is. Right,we just kind of bonded on grandparents,
my my heart, my best friend, my grandmother, my paternal grandmother.
I lost her in twenty sixteen andso losing her was directed my world.

(45:35):
I felt like the band aid wasripped off and I went back into that
cycle again because that dad my dog, you know, and so I have
literally I have one living grandparent andthat's it, and so obviously grateful for
her. But she's approaching eighty andyou know her time is gonna come,

(45:57):
and then there's gonna be the daywhere I literally had no parents and no
grandparents, And so I think aboutthose things. I don't harp on it.
So I say that to say thatwhile I may say I'm thriving in
some areas, I do still haveall of those type of things that you
know, I still have to processand so you know, life is in

(46:20):
a good space. I'm grateful formy family, you know, my child,
my husband, my dog, mycareer, you know, relationships and
you know, colleagues and all thosethings in the sports industry. So I
do feel to some aspect, yesI have reached that point. But don't
you know, don't think that everythingis just everything is just peaches and cream,

(46:44):
because no, life is still whatit is in spite of But I
have my gratitude, right, youknow, I'm grateful and I'm thankful and
when those experiences do come, howdo my best to deal with them?
And that's all you can do.And even the fact that you said you
feel like you are in your thrivingstages and it didn't come easy. You
deserve to experience the fullness of whateverthat life looks like for you, you

(47:08):
know, because it can look likemany things for a lot of us.
So you deserve that. You endureda lot. But I think the most
important piece is you did the workto conquer those fears and those struggles which
put you where you are today,you know, So thank you for being
transparent about just the battle is noteasy, you know, and every day

(47:30):
is not going to be easy,but you have that faith and your gratitude
to hold on to to guide youthrough. So hopefully someone out there that's
listen takes hold of that. Likeyou may be somewhere in your life that
you feel like, hey, thisis looking real rough right now, I
don't know how to see it through. Well, like you said, celebrate
the milestones and hold on to yourgratitude and your faith. So thank you

(47:52):
so much for being so transparent throughoutthis whole conversation. Before we get out
of here, I want to knowa little bit about your career. Okay,
how did you like, how didyou decide to go into the sports
industry? How did I get hear? That? Is? Because like I
know that for me, like Itold you, like, I played basketball

(48:15):
until college. So a lot ofwomen that I see that are in the
sporting industries because they played a sport, Like how did you end up there?
So I did not play a sportunless you want to count the dance
team. But I'm gonna say,but no. So again, I'm from
Louisville, Kentucky. That is,you know, Kentucky Wildcats is one of

(48:39):
the meccas of basketball. So thatwas you know, that was a bonding
time for me and my dad.We love to go to games. My
father played a little bit in college, and so I was introduced to sports
and being around sports early. Wasalso around it very very young, I
would say, who around nine tenyears old. So my grandparents, you

(49:00):
know, they would have church leaguesand so like every Friday night, you
know, this church versus this church. And so I got to work in
a concession stand. Little did theyknow that I was gonna go in there
and just like run that thing great. So they gave me the nickname of
MS. Brown because I was goingin there taking orders, what you need,
what you need, grabbing the hotels, grabbing the nachos, getting changed

(49:23):
and then like this little girl isreally like running this coiling like for real,
right, And if anybody struggling withfinding your purpose, I do believe
that there are some things from yourpast that will start to kind of give
you nuggets of what are give youforth sight of what you're you know,
some insight into what you enjoy doingin your purpose. So I think for

(49:45):
me, it started very young,just having that concession stand experience, and
so fast forward. I again,well, I wanted to be a doctor.
I knew I was gonna go toschool and it was gonna be a
betatrician. Got into those biogic classesand I was like, that's not gonna
work exactly. I changed my majorfrom nursing with the quickness state that science

(50:13):
and math. You know what I'msaying, We're not learning nothing about this
like no Northman or nothing like we'redoing an anatomy and microisms. And so
again, watching sports, going tosports events, I started seeing people running
out of the field and I waslike, who are those people like?

(50:34):
That looks like medicine, like medicinee. And so I did some research
and discovered athletic trainers. So they'renot like doctor doctors, but they're still
in the medical field. And Iwas like, that's what's up. So
I changed my major to kinesiology andexercise science fuell science, but I had
a little more incentive, and sothat's where I you know, positioned myself

(50:55):
to get a student athletic trainer positionsforward through that again, like I shared,
I lost my mother and so Ithat hour being away from home was
just too far. So I endedup changing well, I ended up leaving
school and going back to the universityin my hometown, which is the University
of Louisville, because I just Ineeded my support system. And so when

(51:19):
I transferred, you know, myadvisor said, well, you failed so
many of them science classes. Ifyou want to stick with this, it's
gonna take you about three years toget out. Baby girl didn't have three
years. My mental didn't have it. I said no, because I'm gonna
quit and I'm gonna end up doingsomething strange for some change. So what's
my other option? Said I?Don't want to disappoint anybody, but she

(51:45):
was honest. I promise you wasdead. I said, this is not
gonna work. So they said,won't have you considered sports administration the business
side of sports? I said no, but I am. Now when do
I get out? They said,well, we can get you out in
about a year and a half.Boom, let's do it. So I
changed my major to sports administration.And then I found out I had to

(52:05):
have an internship in order to graduate. And I said, okay, everybody's
doing their internships in Louisville, andI'm like, I want to use this
as an opportunity to travel, right, Remember I said I don't want to
leave, So I said, okay, well let me find an internship.
Not here. I'll make a longstory short, because that's the whole process
in itself. But I ended upgetting an internship with the Orange Bowl Committee,

(52:28):
which is in Miami, Florida,And if you don't know, they
produce one of the largest end offootball season bowl games, and that particular
year was also a national championship.So they did their Orange Bowl game and
then the following week they had anational championship, and so I was blessed
with that opportunity. So I packedup and I moved for four months,

(52:49):
never been to Miami. Just said, listen, I'm gonna go, and
I'm gonna take a leap of faith, bet on myself, and let's just
see what happens. And so thatwas the start of my career. Of
course, made all kinds of connectionsand relationships and things to where after I
graduated, I moved back, Iwent back home, finished classes, graduated
in two thousand and nine, andthen ended up getting jobs down in Miami.

(53:15):
And so by I think like byDecember of two thousand and nine,
I permanently moved to Miami and thatwas the start of my career. So
full circle, you know. Now, and I'm the senior director of operations
for the Orange Blossom Classic, whichis an HBCU event happening Labor Day weekend
here in South Florida. But thebeautiful thing is, so I produced football

(53:38):
games. I you know, itwas a team of us, but my
sole responsibility is everything connected to thefootball game. And we had to in
the beginning because we're now going intothe fourth year, but the first year
we had to partner with Orange Bulleall of those folks still knew me and
remembered me from my intern days.And so my boss back then now became

(54:05):
a mentor, and he is theone who has been teaching me and giving
me all the insight on how todo a football game. And so I
did not know that my internship ineight would lead me to a very close
knit relationship with this organization, withthese people to now do the things that
I do now. So I athousand percent bet on yourself. You know,

(54:30):
have that faith? Is scary.Oh gosh, it's scary. I
know him about mine. I'm fromI'm a country girl from Kentucky. Only
water we have is the Ohio River. Like I know nothing about the big
city. But betting on your listen, betting on yourself and have some faith,

(54:52):
and I promise you like you haveno idea where it can lead you.
So that's amazing. Now this istotally off subject, but I saw
you. I saw your post lastnight and them prices are you going to
the super Bowl? I wanted Imeant to comment ask you because I was
like them tickets really that first ofall my team were our chance of going.

(55:15):
So like I am, I amchairing for usher at this point,
you're right, are you going tothe super Bowl? So the crazy girl
in me has been exploring if itnot to go, like, no,
I'm not lord, if you haveit in your wheel, so blessed like
that one day, that's fine,but to day so no, I mean

(55:40):
no. So the answer is thoseare very real. It's very unfortunate.
I don't like it. I thinkit's unfair because it's like, you know,
you want real fans in the building, right, and it will give
the appearance when you're walk watching thegame that it's fans, but you gotta
remember you've got corporate sponsors that mayget one hundred and fifty tickets. Well,

(56:02):
the senior vice president is not inthe regular season. They in the
suites, right, But they're givingthose tickets away two fans, which is
fine, But those tickets were neveractually purchased by someone. Now, they
may have come by way of asponsorship that's millions of dollars and they have
tickets a part of their package,so they kind of paid for it.

(56:22):
But theoretically it's not just the generalconsumer that's buying tickets. And so yeah,
it I was like, yeah,and so I was a part of
the Committee, the local Committee thathelps put on additional events in and through
the city for that reason. Thatbecause truth of the matter is, unless

(56:45):
you know, you own a Brinkstruck, like, you're not going to
the game, but you want toenjoy the atmosphere and be a part of
the festivities. So the Local Committeeplus the NFL, they do so many
events, you know, the weekof the game. So there's free super
Bowl Live where there'll be a bunchof memorabilia and activations and all kinds of

(57:06):
things. There's Super Bowl Experiences,generally inside of a convention center where there's
more activations and interactives and you canyou know, throw a football for a
touchdown or kick a field goal.Like there's so many things that take over
an entire convention center to give youactivation, so you get the feeling and
the excitement. But yeah, Iwas like, yeah, maybe in my

(57:31):
dreams, but like I'll be watchingit at home if I am in chair
for us at this tint because that, yeah, that matchup was actually my
game in twenty twenty, so I'mnot really into I was rooting for a
Baltimore and Detroit, Like what youknow, this is so funny I know

(57:57):
this is so off subject. Isaw some writes video on TikTok because I
live in TikTok TikTok world. Therewas like the NFL is so very we
just had the opportunity to have theblackest super Bowl and history. I was
like, you're right, we couldhave blackety black. Yeah, you know,

(58:19):
I don't know what happened to myquarterback one Sunday. I'm sorry,
guys, like we're still agreeving therelike it was. I don't know,
but hopefully next year it's we getthat way. You're a Baltimore fan,
I am, yes, born andraged. Okay, well, so Lamar
was at Louisville when I was there. Oh so you made him. So

(58:40):
I went there long to meet people, and truth be told, I'm not
a Loivell fan, but I wasdefinitely supporting him because you know, that's
home team, and that's another blackman who's doing it on his own,
that faith move right, no agentout here getting it. So of course
I'm definitely I was supporting what webeen taking faith moves the last couple of

(59:01):
years because like he was on pinsand needles a couple of years ago.
So oh man, that's amazing.But this conversation has been so good.
Thank you so much. I reallyhope that something resonated with someone that's listening
or just was what they needed tohave their cup filled. And as we

(59:22):
have talked about a lot, andyou have had a lot of insightful words
of encouragement, I like to endon a positive note. Someone that is
navigating their grief journey right now,what is a piece of advice you can
give them to just kind of bein a more of a comfortable space,

(59:45):
even though grief is not comfortable,but something you can just tell them at
this moment. Yeah, my numberone thing that I would share is to
give yourself grace. And I knowthat that maybe be kind of something we've
started to hear a lot, youknow, giving yourself grace, But it
is so true. There is notimeframe, there is no blueprint, there's

(01:00:10):
no manual. You know, youcan google and find the five stage degreef
and all of those things, buteveryone's walk is different. And even with
me sharing my story, my storyis not yours. But I would share
with you that the grace that isneeded is insurmountable. I would go a

(01:00:31):
little deeper and be more specific thatif you're especially if you're in within the
first year of your loss, thatthis is a very very sensitive time that
honestly you're just you are just tryingto survive, and it's okay. It
is okay that you know, youmay not feel like getting out of the

(01:00:53):
bed, and you may not feellike eating, because those things are very
real when you're in the midst ofyour pain, those things, those normal
behaviors don't seem like something that youreally want to go through. But I
just want to let you know thatright now, it's really about you.
It is not selfish. You know, my only caveat is, obviously there's

(01:01:15):
small children involved. You know,if you have children, you have a
you know, a family household,that's understandable. But at the end of
the day, it's about you.And you've heard it. I'm sure that
you know. You are no goodto anyone else unless you fill up your
own cup. And so in orderfor you to be able to function and
do and to fulfill those responsibilities thatyou do have, you do have to

(01:01:37):
take care of yourself. And it'snot selfish. Boundaries are not selfish,
right, It is lovingly telling peoplethat I just don't have the capacity for
this, and so in order forme in my balloon not to burst,
you know, there are some thingsthat I can't do, and that's giving
yourself grace. That is giving yourselfthe love and attention that you need as

(01:01:57):
you enter into this new normal.And then the last thing is, you
know, it may not even beone day at a time, it may
be one minute at a time.You know, grief triggers are real.
You know, we just come throughthe holiday season, so that's a trigger.
You know, we're going into anew year. Valentine's Day is coming,
you know, anniversaries, your birthday, their birthdays, all of those

(01:02:21):
things are reminders, and so it'svery important that you check in with yourself
in preparation for those things, anddon't get ahead of yourself, right,
don't think too far ahead into thefuture. Sometimes, you know, people
start thinking, well, Mother's Dayis coming, and I don't know how
we're still in January. Let's notgive ourselves that anxiety of something that's in

(01:02:45):
the future, because again, tomorrow'snot promised, which we all know,
right, and so let's not stressourselves out today for things of the future.
So I know there was a lot, but I think that all of
those different nuggets are very pivotal inthe grieving process. And so hopefully and
prayfullty that if there's someone who isexperiencing that you take those nuggets away and

(01:03:08):
just know that you're not going throughby yourself. You're not alone. You're
not alone. Yes, and it'snever a lot. So I appreciate that
I needed to hear that thank youbecause I be thinking like, oh,
when I get married and have kids, these people won't get to see me
at that. So it's sometimes thereassurance and a reminders. Take it a

(01:03:28):
minute at a time. It doesn'thave to be a day. So thank
you so much. If someone wantedto connect with you or find your social
medias, where can they reach outto you at? Yes, so it's
my name, Instagram, TikTok,and I won't say Twitter but x those

(01:03:49):
are my three. But I reallyhonestly I live on Instagram, but it's
kenisian Nachelle, so you can findme on those platforms. And then my
website is Karnisianashelle dot as well,all right, and I will have all
of her links and information in adescription so y'all can go tap in with
her see her wonderful inspirational content,and are you still looking to do like

(01:04:14):
other podcasts or like interviews, ifsomeone wanting to reach out to you for
that, I am I you know, again, like I said, God
trusted me with this, and sonow that I'm really truly on the other
side, I'm completely commissioned to dothis work and to share this message.
So yes, I am open foryou know, other opportunities, you know,

(01:04:39):
whatever it may be, if it'sin a small setting or if it's
you know, a podcasts like this. I definitely believe that, you know,
I want to be a voice ofhope and for someone to see that.
You know, even though life didget as bad as it could get,
if you keep hoping on it,you know, you can definitely have
a better life after awesome. Thatjust made me think of a song.

(01:05:03):
Are you familiar with Marvin Sap?Yes, you know the song keep holding
on No to that. Listen thatsong along with a couple other ones.
I will have one to repeat allthe time. But you said keep holding

(01:05:23):
on that song? It is thefirst thing to pop to myself. Definitely
check that out mine offenses. I'mnot sure it's the title but I made
it through. Hmmm, I haveto look Okay, yes I've heard.
Oh yes, yes, yes,Mars, yes, you got a catalog

(01:05:43):
that will send me every time Iunderstand. Well, look, thank you
so much for coming on the Verbalpodcast and connecting with me and my audience,
and for telling your story and forjust being vulnerable again, y'all.
I will have all of her linkslistening description box, so y'all can go
tap in with her and get inspired. All right, y'all that y'all enjoyed

(01:06:05):
that episode. I hope you,guys truly enjoyed that conversation, and I
hope that it was very impactful toyou, as it definitely was to me.
Even listening back to it now afterit was recorded a couple of months
ago, it still has the sameemphasis that it did when we first recorded.
And I will never forget that experienceand just being able to hold space

(01:06:30):
with miss Kanisha. So again,Kanisha, thank you so very much for
coming on Chronicles of a very goodpodcast and sharing all of your words of
wisdom and for sharing your story andyour energy and your time with us.
And you are welcome back at anytime. So guys, please please please
go to the description box. Whetheryou are listening or if you're watching on

(01:06:51):
YouTube, go find her social mediagive her a follow, because, like
I said, she puts out somevery good encouraging words daily, just about
things around grief, things around mentalhealth, and it may just be enough
to fill your cup at that moment. It may just be the word that

(01:07:12):
you needed to hear that it's goingto get you up and motivated to do
something amazing in life. Okay,So all of her links are below,
including her website, so you guyscan go tap in with her and see
what else she got working on inthe sports media world, because she is
indulgent on a lot right now.So yeah, go tap in with her,
and by all means, give mea follow on social media if you

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have not yet. Whatever your socialmedia preference of choice may be, whether
it's Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,TikTok Chronicles of a verbal podcast on all
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how YouTube I'll Grow in YouTube channel. I put all these episodes up there,

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as well as previous episodes, aswell as some little and type videos
that you can find too. Okay, your girl trying to put out more
content, but yes, give mea follow and if you want to connect,
have questions concerns, please buy means. Feel free to DM me on
those platforms or reach out to methrough email. Chronicles of a Virgo twenty

(01:08:16):
two at gmail dot com. Okay, so again, I'll you guys enjoyed
this episode. If you need to, go ahead and hit the rewind button
and take some notes the second timethrough because she dropped a lot of gems.
Okay again, thank you Kenisha forcoming through, and thank you guys
for joining us. And please,by all means, y'all take care of

(01:08:41):
yourselves, but most importantly take careof each other. Peace out. Thank
you for listening to an episode ofChronicles of a Virgo podcast with me your
favor favorite favorite Virgo host, ShikithaJohnson. Your support means the world to
me as I want to continue tosee you all prosper and grow. Please
join me back next Wednesday, wherewe will continue to dive into more candid

(01:09:04):
and empower on conversations that we'll getyou a step closer to stepping into a
new killed individual. Remember you're notalone on your journey. Please don't forget
to Subscribe to us on social mediaat Chronicles of a Verbal podcast on all
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