Casandra Carson Talks New Project with George Lynch, Paralandra Tour with Tantric & more!

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Chuck Shute (00:12):
Music, awesome. I like the what do you call that?
Like the blurred background. Itlooks cool.

Casandra Carson (00:17):
Yes, it's called blur. Thank you. Okay,

it's not that clever of a name, I guess. But
yeah, let's go for people whocan't see who are listening on
audio. Got to describe thesetting here. It's like, yeah,
you got the cool, blurredbackground. I think that's
called,

my room is messy. Oh, we're going for the
blur effect. That's

awesome. Yeah, I remember I interviewed Alice
Cooper's daughter, Calico, andshe was in her like, closet. It
was so funny. There was, like,clothes all over. It's like,
this is where I do podcasts. Iwas like, Okay, this is

cool. It's fun.
Yeah, probably good sounddampening in there. That makes
sense, yeah? Well, I

prefer that. I would rather have the good sound
and a little mess or whatever.
Then, like, people, they'll gooutside and there'll be wind, or
they'll be in an echoeybathroom, and, yeah, it's like,

I've got like, seven dogs next door barking
their

heads. Oh, the dogs. That's annoying, and
that's really hard. You can'tcontrol that. I mean, you know,
like, you don't want to send youdon't want to see them, like,
yell at the dog. And if you'rean animal lover, it's like, even
if they're doing it properly.
You're supposed to school dogs,I guess a little bit, but yeah,
right,

nobody around here does they just let them go.
It's great.

Where and where are you? Are you in Springfield? Now

I'm in Rogersville, Missouri, so it's
just a little town east ofSpringfield that is kind of out
in the middle of nowhere. It'sgreat. Yeah, okay, so

you like living in the country,

I do, yeah, it's like 15 minutes removed
from the city, so I'm closeenough where I can get where I
need to go, and also have nicepeace and quiet, you know, at
the same time. That's perfect.

So a Springfield, that's like the big city, I
mean, like a band would comethere and stuff and tour, yeah,

yeah, it's like, they call it the Queen
City of the Ozarks, but there'slike, Kansas City, St Louis or
the big Missouri cities, andthen southwest Springfield is
the big city.

Okay, so that's near like Ozark. Like you ever
watched that show? Ozark? Thatshow's crazy.

I never watched it, because I live it, dude,
like there is a trailer parkjust like a couple streets down
from me that was getting bustedfor meth every weekend. I mean,
it's like, Dude, this is mylife. Watch it.

The stereotypes are true that it's

I assume. So again, I never watched it, so I
can't totally confirm, but yeah,um, you know, there's some
pretty crazy stuff going on outhere.

I bet you do. You watch a lot of Netflix and stuff
when you're touring, because I'massuming there's a lot of
downtime when you're touring andon the boat. Like, that's to me,
I always think that, like backin the 80s, I think that's why
they did so many drugs, becausethey're, like, kind of so bored.
I'm just gonna do drugs. But nowit's like, you can, you know,
watch Netflix and so then youcould do so many things on your
phone and laptop while you'retouring, right?

It's true.
Yeah, I, I've been watchingBreaking Bad recently, which is
funny

that you I just rewatched the entire series,
dude.

I'm watching it for the first time. I'm like,
halfway through the fourthseason. And, yeah, it's, it's
great. It's everything thateverybody has hyped it up to be.
I just took a long time to geton that wagon. That's

so funny that, yeah, we literally just
rewatched that, and now we'rerewatching Better Call Saul.
Have you seen that one yet?

No, I haven't watched that yet, but I have a
feeling I'm gonna have to jumpon that train too. Yeah.

So that's the spin off. It's like the prequel of, I
don't know if you've gotten tothe seasons with, if you're
season four, you probably haveSaul Goodman as the lawyers and,
yeah, okay, so yeah, those showsare so, I mean, I think I've
rewatched Breaking Bad maybefive or six times, all through,
all the way through, and everytime it's still it's just like,
you get addicted to it, even ifyou've seen it, like, I gotta

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see the next one. It's so good.

Yeah, yeah, it's very addicting. I have to,
like, limit myself to, like,three episodes a day. I feel
like that's a good amount.
Otherwise, I'm like, I don'tknow what I'm doing with my
life. Start zoning out, like, Idon't know what reality is.
Yeah.

I mean, it is those distractions. That's, I guess
that's the downside of havingall this technology is, is a is
all the distractions? Because Ithink we talked before just
about how much work you have todo for your bands, like, you're
kind of like the manager, right?
I mean, you're doing everything.
Yeah,

I do a lot of it. Um, luckily, in the last few
months I have not had to do somuch in the booking area, we
have had a lot of help, like ingoing on tour with tantric and
Scotty Austin and lynch mob,like a lot of these shows, have
been taken care of by theagents. So I have to say, I've
been able to breathe a littlebit more in that department.

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Well, that's

so nice, yeah. So they just, it's like their tour,
and they just say. Do you wantthis slot or whatever? And
they've kind of already got itset up.

Does this date work for you? Yes, check at it.
Oh, it's amazing. Yeah, so good.

That's awesome. So yeah, it's Scotty Austin from
who was the former frontman fromsaving able, yes man trick. And
then I think that goes up untilNovember, and then it shifts.
And then it's Scotty Austin andseven year witch, which I think
I've had those guys on thepodcast a while ago. They're
really great band, too.

Oh yeah, they were awesome. We played with
them in Georgia last weekend. Itwas my first time seeing them,
and they put on just like a wildshow. It's it's so much fun to
watch, but then the music isgreat, super groovy stuff. I
mean, I loved it. I'm excited todo more shows with them. Yeah,

I wish that they were on that, because you're
coming here to Arizona onNovember 10, I believe. But I
think that is with, not withseven year. I wish it was all
four bands. There's none ofthat. You're doing that with
four of them, right? It's just,

yeah, November 10 will be tantric sky, Austin,
US, and then a local band calledtricus, which we played with
them last time we were at the 44I think it was about a year ago,
something like that, okay, or,wait, was it last summer, dude,
I don't know. My perception oftime is so so askew. I

think last time too, you told me you were going
to go to Winslow, Arizona, whichright? Did

you do that?
Oh, right, stand on a corner inWinslow, Arizona? Yeah,
I feel like probably

does it start to blur together all the cities and
everything. Just

it kind of does sometimes. But we really like to
sightsee and like, if we havetime, like whenever we went to
Roswell, we went to the alienMuseum, like when we were in
Albany, Georgia, we like,stopped by the little Ray
Charles statue in the park,which was pretty cool, like the
sidewalks were all piano likekeys anyway, so that's Cool when

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we're just driving through it?
Not so much, but

yeah, so you guys do when you to the way you tour,
I'm assuming you have a tour busthen, or we

do van and trailer. Okay, not so bougie,
but good for gas mileage.

Yeah. I mean, it's still economical to you know,
because it's just so hard totour I feel like now with, I
mean, you have to, like, figureall that stuff out that you're
gonna make enough so that itmakes sense to do it, right?

Yeah, absolutely. Factor in the gas,
hotels, food, you know, got tosurvive at the same time, yeah?

Because I know, like, warrant and stuff, a lot
of those bands, they'll just dolike a fly in date, especially
like casino I feel like thoseare, I just saw Brett Michaels
at the casino here, and I meanthose, I think those are good
gigs for musicians. I think theypay well, and they always have a
nice green room and stuff.

Oh yeah, casinos, they're the best about
taking care of their artists.
It's always like five staraccommodations, like great green
room, they'll normally hook youup with, like, the buffet or
something, which is like, oh,for a musician,

right? And then the thing I like about casino shows
too, is like, you know, like, ifyou're just going to see the
band that you're going to see,you know, sometimes you go to
these bars and there's like, 17local opening bands, because
they don't want you to leave,because they make all their
money from the alcohol, right?
But then the casino, they'relike, We want you to we want
people to come for the show andthen get out and get back in the
casino. So it's always like,there's usually no opening band,

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and it's like, get in, do theshows? Get out? Like, get back
to the casino and gamble.

Yes, that is totally and it's so weird
compared to club shows, likeyou're saying, because, like, as
soon as it's over, it's like,everybody out, we're done, no
one in a theater. You know, weplayed with Warren and Lita Ford
in Vegas this summer, and thatwas the same deal, just like,
get in, get out. But it wasamazing again, like 10 stars,

(09:01):
the way that they treated us somuch fun, and we got to play in
like, Elvis's theater. The staffgave us a little tour of all the
cool spots backstage, but all ofa sudden, you froze, and then it
kicked me out. But yeah, I

just checked. I was like, Was it my internet? I
think my internet is good, soit's your problem. I

don't know.
Mine still has full bars too. Somaybe it's probably me, though
I'm the one living out in thecountry. So, oh,

I don't know. Well, whatever. Hopefully it doesn't
do it again. But yeah, so youwere saying that that's so cool.
You played in Vegas with Warren.
I should have drove up for that,because I'm not that. I'm only
five hours away, but I didn'tknow Warren was like playing in
Cottonwood, Arizona, like, thispast weekend, I don't even know,
so I should pay attention. Butthat sounds like a fun show,
though.

Oh yeah, it's awesome. And Warren, like,
they're so freaking good, theykill it every night. It's just,
it's a fun show. And I'm sure,you know, like, the nostalgia
factor is probably way more forother people than me. But like,
you. It's still just awesome tosee, like, a bunch of guys, and
it's like, pretty much alloriginal members, except for
Janie, um, but Robert Masonkills it every single night on

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the vocals. And like, they'rejust tight. They have that
camaraderie, you know, um, yeah,they're great. Yeah,

I love one of my favorite bands I've had Eric and
Joey on the show. I'd still haveto get Jerry and Steven just to
I just want every member just totell it, because there's so many
different stories and stuff totell. But yeah, every time I see
him, they're, they're great. AndRobert Mason, amazing singer,
and I love him in lynch mob too.

Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah,

I just had oni Logan on the show. He doesn't,
he doesn't do a lot ofinterviews, but he's really nice
guy too.

Oh, wow. I've only met oni once. I got to run
into him on the MOS was a rockcruise a few years ago. That was
really cool. Yeah,

so you're doing this talk about this project
that you have with George Lynch.
You've got the full album. Ithink two songs are out now.
It's called Cassandra'scrossing. And you said this is
the favorite thing, your mostfavorite thing you've ever
written, this album, honestly,

yeah, I think so this is probably my, my
favorite writing, or maybe mymost accomplished that I've ever
done. Um, George, like, laiddown such an amazing foundation.
Like, whenever I got the songs,it was just like all of his
final guitar tracks with a verybasic drum loop. So, like, I

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mean, just basic, basic bones ofsongs. But anyway, I got to,
like, write all these lyrics,and I got to write all these
melodies, and I felt like itreally pushed me to be a better,
you know, songwriter and abetter creator. So some of it
was a little scary. It was like,Oh my gosh, I don't know what
the heck I'm supposed to singover this. Like, what am I going

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to do? But I would just likelisten to it while I was at the
gym, on repeat, and just kind oflike sing along. And every once
in a while, melodies or lyricswould just pop out at me. And
anyway, I ended up creating,yeah, some of my favorite music
I've ever done. So

a lot of times it does just come to you, because
I, I just had this guy. I don'tknow if you ever watched, like,
Celebrity Rehab, but Bob forest,he was a musician too, but then
he's like, a drug counselor, buthe was friends with, like, Red
Hot Chili Peppers. And he said,See for him, like, when he's
doing music, he said it justcomes to him, but he said he's
friends with Red Hot ChiliPeppers. And Anthony Kiedis, he
said he would have all theselike, notebooks and, like, he

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would, like, have to piece ittogether. And it was really more
of like an ex, like, he did alot of work, basically, to
create lyrics, whereas, for somepeople, just comes to them,
yeah,

it's, it's both for me for sure, like, I've got
a note in my phone that's just,like, all random lyric ideas,
and most of them will have like,some kind of melody to them that
I can just, like, remember, bylike, looking at the Lyric and
I'm like, Oh yeah, there'sanother little idea or whatever.
But then also sometimes,whenever I'm writing a song, I

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won't pull from that bank andI'll, like, create a whole
separate bank of all these lyricideas for like, one song. And so
sometimes it is like piecingthings together, like, oh well,
this line kind of works here,and this one kind of works here.
How do I connect that? How do Imake this like a clear, concise
story from beginning to end? Sosometimes it is a little bit of

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like filling in the holes andand piecing it together. Other
times, it kind of just flows outand it's natural. So, oh no.

Like, the song impatient you talk about, like,
something about, there's a line,like, never traveled to the
Northern Lights, like, is thatsomething that you've just
wanted to do, and then it justkind of came to you as a lyric,

yeah, uh, that's something I've always
wanted to go see and, that linewas just kind of talking about,
I'm not going to go do itwithout you, without my
significant significant other,without my boyfriend, but just
kind of like holding off onthose experiences that you
really want to have in yourlife, but like wanting to

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experience them with yourspecial person, too.

Yeah. And then the song stranger, great singing on
that great guitar work. But alsoyou mentioned that the songs
came in with just a basic drumloop, but I thought the drums
were on that one stranger,really good. Who did? Who's the
drummer on the track? Yeah,

Jordan Cannata.
Um, he's from slaughter, and heslaughtered the drums like every
single song on this record. Heobliterated in the best way,
just amazing. Like, actually,have you been able to listen to
any of the tracks besides thesingles that have come out?

No, they, I looked, and I think they only sent me
the the two, and I didn'trealize, like, Oh, it does. It's
not the full album isn't outyet,

right? Okay, it comes out on october 25 but, um,
anyway, there's a song on thealbum called ring me around, and
I never heard any of Jordan'sfinal drum tracks until I was
going into the studio to recordmy final vocals and litter.
Really like the song that I hadwritten to was a completely

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different feel than the one thathe reported, and he hadn't heard
my lyrics or my melodieswhenever he wrote his drum
parts. So like, anyway, somehow,like, we all had these different
ideas that ended up just piecingtogether, like perfectly, and
creating this really cool songthat I was not expecting. So,

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yeah, anyway, Jordan did amazingwork on this album and threw me
for a loop on numerousoccasions, in a very good way,

interesting. So the drums, I mean that can be part
of the songwriting, because Iknow with Metallica, a lot of
the songs are written by Jamesand Lars, and I don't know, I'd
be curious to have them on thepodcast, because I'm just
curious, like, how they writewith with drums, like, how so
that sometimes that does play apart in the actual song, and the
melody of the song and therhythm, I guess you would start

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with the drums, or change thingsthrough the drums, yeah?

Like, if I had heard Jordan's drums on this
track ring me around. Before Ihad written my lyrics and
melodies, I absolutely wouldhave done something different,
because it just like kind ofswings in a very odd but like
cool way, nothing that I wouldever anticipate or expect. So

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yeah, yeah, drums can be apretty big part of songwriting,
and it just happened to work outreally well in this one instance
that it was kind of crazy.

That's cool. I didn't know slaughter had a
different drummer, because Iknow they used to have Zoltan
Chaney, who I loved. I thoughthe was one of my favorite
drummers, just just from, like,watching him, like, how he's
such a performer, like he woulddo all these, like, crazy stunts
and, like, jump off his drumschool. Have you ever seen him?

No, I haven't, but that's funny, because Jordan
does a lot of the same stuff.
Oh, okay. He learned, like,charismatic drummer, yeah,
entertainer, okay,

yeah. That's very I like those kind of drummers. I
mean, I like all kinds ofmusicians, guitars, singing and
everybody you know. Like, whenyou can do things that stand
out, especially as a drummer,you're not just doing the same
old playing the beat. You'reactually like doing something
that stands out. Like, drum Ilove drum solos. I had a
drummer, I think was David LeeRoss drummer, and he goes, Oh, I
don't, I don't like doing drumsolos. Like, really, how do you

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not love doing a drum so ifyou're a drummer, yeah,

for real. Like, that's your one opportunity to
go crazy. Isn't that? Like, whatevery drummer wants to do,

yeah, I guess some don't. They just want to kind of
hang out in the background andjust play the beat.

Wow. Well, I mean, I don't get that, but All
right, I'm not a drummer.

Yeah, that's why you're the singer. You get to be
in the front and

yeah, I guess, I guess so, yeah, these solos
too.

I mean, George's solo is, like, it's crazy that
he can it's almost like hesounds like he got better, you
know what? I mean, like, he'salways amazed me. But kind of, I
listen to these souls, I'm like,he really is an amazing guitar
player. Because people like,I've had him on my show, and
like, you know, I've interviewedDon dawkin and people, so people
will talk about him and rave howgreat he is. And I don't think I

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really appreciated it until I,you know, started listening to
these songs. I was like, God,yeah, he really is amazing.
Yeah,

it's super inspiring, too. Because, like, I
mean, I was thinking the samething, and I showed the tracks
to my dad, and he said the samething, like, this is just like,
I mean, it's George Lynch to a Tbut it's fresh, like, this guy
has not stopped advancing andgetting better, and that makes
me just, like, super inspired,you know, in every aspect of

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being a musician. Just like tocontinue getting better and, you
know, striving to do somethingthat I haven't done before, you
know, like, somehow George isstill cranking out awesome,
unique, you know, guitar solosand riffs and stuff. So, yeah,

I think that's the path of a lot of musicians, is
that they do get better withtime. It's just the problem is,
like, the music business, or atleast the way it used to be, it
was like, you had this window,and then it was like, okay, that
that band is too old now they'renot cool. And then it was like
they wouldn't give people achance to listen to their newest
music, like, Warren's a perfectexample. Like, a lot of the

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stuff that they did that, youknow, in the 90s, that when
warrant wasn't, you know,fashionable or whatever. Like, I
love that stuff. So I think itwas like Jamie Lane wrote some
of his best songs after theband's peak of popularity. Yeah,

it's crazy how that happens. But you know, with
the development of a band, Ifeel like if you just keep being
together after all those years,you're just going to keep
growing together. I mean,sometimes people don't like the
band's later albums, and theyshould just play the old stuff.
But you know, like, I think thegoal is to just always be
getting better. And like, youknow, it's just a competition

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with yourself just trying tooutdo yourself every day. I
guess at least that's how I lookat it. No,

that's perfect, yeah. And, I mean, and you guys
are still growing as a band, andso, like, when you open for,
like, a warrant and an eliteafford, and that. Kind of stuff,
or like this tour with tantricand stuff, are you, I'm assuming
that you're building a fan base,like you're building up new
exposing the band to people whohad never seen it before?
Absolutely,

yeah, that's why it's so important to get out
there and tour. I mean, youknow, like you were saying it's
like, financially, sometimes itmakes no sense to go on tour,
but then you go out there, andyou get in front of these people
that may have never heard of youor seen you before, and now
they're fans for life. So forme, there's a huge value that

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goes into that, and that's whyit's all worth it. For me,

I agree. I think even if, like, you break even on
a tour, or even if maybe youlose a little bit. I think in
the long run, if you're tryingto build a brand and build fans,
you kind of have to do that fora little bit. I mean, it's like
a lot of businesses, what dothey say? Like, most businesses
lose money in the first fiveyears, or whatever it's like,
you gotta build up the brand.
Build up I think Amazon, whichis a perfect example. I
remember, like, watching aninterview years ago with Bezos,

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and he was saying how much moneythey were losing, because they
just, they it was more importantfor them to get customers to
then to make a profit. And ofcourse, now, I mean, they're
making a huge profit. So I thinkthat's kind of the way you've
got to build a brand up andbuild fans, which you're
obviously doing with thetouring. And then also the other
part, I think, is social media,right,

right? Exactly, interacting with people
responding to comments like youwouldn't even realize how far
that goes, just to say thankyou, you know. And then you're
acknowledging someone, and theyfeel special, and now they have
a connection with you, and maybethey come back for some more
connection later. Maybe theylisten to your song because
they're like, Wow, that wasreally cool. Um, so yeah, you

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know, little droplets at a time,yeah. And

then what about and then also getting on radio. And
I feel like even bigger thanradio is the playlist? Do you
have a strategy for for doingthat? Or is that, just like, if
people like it, they put it onthe playlist? We

have used, like, um, through our management
or through legend recordings,they have, like, done promotions
to try and get us on playlistsand stuff. I'm not really sure
how all those inner workingslike, how that works, but I know
that we have gotten on a fewpretty large playlists and
gotten, like, I don't even know,a few 100,000 streams on some

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songs by being added to theseplaylists. So there's something
to it, I guess. Yeah.

I mean, that is a huge thing. Is that the
playlist, because I feel like ifthe playlist has a bunch of
followers, then people will justlisten to it and you'll get the
streams, whether they become afan or not, you still get the
streams, right. But, I mean, Ithink you do end up getting a
lot of new people discoveringyour band and following you.

Yeah, yeah. I have had a lot of people say,
like, I was listening to, youknow, my pretty reckless
playlist, or in this moment,like, you guys popped up and I
couldn't believe it. And, youknow, so that's, like, really
cool that we would even become,like, you know, a suggested
artist for people. Like, that'sjust weird to think about,

right? No. I mean, I do, because I see that you're,
you're building up the followerson Spotify too. And you do you
follow, like, the new music,because I know you're big. Miles
Kennedy fan. I think he justreleased a new album.

Yeah, I've listened to miles new album. I
think it's really cool that hedecided to do his own rock
album, because normally hisstuff is kind of like more on
the full piece side of things.
So it was cool hearing him go alittle bit harder. Um, I've also
really enjoyed listening to Dinojalusik new projects. Um, just
his jalusik band had albumrelease, I think it was earlier

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this year, and then whom Godsdestroy anyway. He had a couple
releases recently that wereawesome. Honestly, though I'm
not like, totally in the loopwith new music, like I I listen
to artists as people recommendthem to me, but I'm not like,
seeking it out typically. Yeah,

it is crazy. Like I heard of this guy Hardy, which I
think they said, was country.
But then I listened, I was like,Oh, this is actually more like
rock. And then I saw he haslike, 5 million followers. I'm
like, How have I never heard ofthis guy? And he was like, he
had, like, Oh, her two songs,but they were really good, like,
really well written. And I waslike, it's crazy how there's so
many bands out now. There's somuch good I think there's a lot

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of good music. I know people saythere's nothing good. I think
there's a lot of good stuff outthere. Personally, yes,

yes, there is a ton of good music actually. You
know what? Now that I'm thinkingabout it. Um, unknown, really
good music that's out right now.
Uh, band called The mini colordeath out of Columbia, Missouri.
Um, they are just a three piece,and it's like, very Prague,
like, kind of King's X inspired,type metal slash rock, but

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amazing. Anyway, they justreleased an album, like last
month, and I mean, sadly to say,kind of unknown, like some
people in Missouri know aboutit, and we've taken. Them on
tour with us once before. Sothey've got a little bit of a
fan base, but they need more.

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That's

cool. So that I'll have to check out all these
recommendations. I love gettingrecommendations of bands,
comedians and TV shows andmovies all that. So I love all
those things. So yeah, I'll haveto check all that stuff out.
That's great. And so see, that'swhat's so cool. I know people, I
know artists hate Spotify andstuff, but I love it because I
love discovering new music, andI just can't afford to buy,
like, every CD back, like, backin the day, and now you can

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listen to anything, and thenwhen you become a fan, I think
you support the band by going toshows, buying merch and all
those things,

right? Exactly.
Yeah, that's the big way tosupport or

have them on your podcast, if you have a podcast
like me, right, right?

But it's pretty like, it's great to be able to
be discovered on a platform likethat, yeah. So it's kind of one
of those just necessary evils,but I don't see it as, like, you
know, I need to get streamed sothat I can make a living. Like,
I know that that's not the case.
So right,

the streaming helps bring in the fans That'll buy a
ticket and buy a t shirt and allthose, and then don't you guys
also get you get some money forstreams and some money for,
like, YouTube and stuff.
Because, I mean, that's how Iget money off YouTube from my
podcast. So I'm assuming thatyou guys probably get way more
than I do, just for people aregoing to listen to songs more
than podcasts.

Maybe, I just don't know about it. Yeah,

it's so that's not the big piece of the pie there.
But, right, yeah,

yeah. But, uh, for sure, we just try to get
people to come to live shows.
You know, it's, that's where themagic happens anyway. That's
what it's all about. Yeah,

I want to see you guys live. It sounds like it
would be a really fun show,especially. And then you got the
couple other bands, ScottyAustin and tantric. I don't
think I've seen either one ofthem, either. So that would be,

oh my gosh.
Scotty Austin is a hoot. He isreally like, I mean, literally,
the definition of anentertainer. He is so funny, and
he's a great performer. He's gota great voice. I mean, the music
is there, but, like, he's just,he's really fun and tantric,
we've toured with them multipletimes. They're just solid
musicians, and they've gotgreat, great songs, like,

(27:14):
they've got such a huge catalogof great music. So, yeah, didn't

John korobi son play drums for them? I don't
know if you don't think he doesanymore, but he

did for a short time. Yeah, he had, I think he's
playing with rehab now. Oh, ormaybe he left them recently. He
was playing with rehab for alittle

while. Yeah, it's, it's cool that you know there's,
there's so many opportunities,opportunities out there for all
these other musicians and, and,you know, again, I think that's
what's so great about music now,is it's not like, Oh, you have
to be on this record label and,and then if you're not on a
record label, your shit, it'slike, everybody can just, you
know, anybody can start a band,which I guess is good and bad,

(27:56):
but you can grow it. And there'sso many projects, so many
concerts, like every weekend,I'm like, I have to choose who
do I want to go see, becausethere's so many concerts going
on.

Oh yeah, for sure. I love it.

Yeah. Are you guys?
You're not going to tour withthe George Lynch project, the
Cassandra's crossing? Are you?
No, that's

not in the plans. I wish that it was. And
you know, if I can twistGeorge's arm hard enough, maybe
we will. But would

you do like a, like a one off, like, if you guys
were both playing a festival orsomething, just do a few songs,
right?

So paralandra will be opening for lynch mob
once in November later thisyear, and then we're doing a
handful of dates between Januaryand March with them as well. So
I'm hoping that at some point,during some of these dates,
like, we could at least work upa song like, yeah, yeah. I feel

(28:49):
like it would be easy enough,but, you know, we'll see.

And then you do you still have, is the life project?
Is that still active, the onewith stone sour guitarist, Josh
Rand, yeah,

actually, I leave Sunday to go up to Des
Moines to record three moretracks for our next album. So,
yes, very much. Still active.
Um, we're probably looking at2025, before we release
anything. But yeah,

does that one do live shows as well? Or is that
only just recorded music,

the plan is to do live shows. And of course, we
did a tour with like Allisonchains and Breaking Benjamin and
Bush back in 2022 so like ourwhole intention was always to be
a live band, but Josh had backsurgery that he had to get that
was pretty extensive. And sobetween then and now, he's just

(29:43):
been recovering and getting backinto the swing of things. Being
able to play guitar wassomething that took a while to
even get to so it's been kind ofbaby steps, but we're finally at
the point where we're able to belike back in the studio. Josh
has reported all. All of hisguitar tracks at this point,

(30:03):
and, yeah, hoping to get back onstage. You know, sometime
relative Revit, relatively soon.
Wow, I cannot talk.

Well, you're so busy, that's awesome. Well,
yeah, just stay busy and keepdoing what you're doing. I'll
try to come see that paralandparalandra show in November
here, that would be fun.
Otherwise a life project or oneof the if you start a fourth
band, maybe I'll go see that.

Oh my gosh. If I start a fourth band, I will be
dead, but I'll see you there.

Okay, all right.
Well, thanks so much for doingthis. Anything else to promote?

Oh my gosh, um, I don't know. I feel like we hit
everything paralandras on theroad and Cassandra crossing
album out on october 25 like,Yep, perfect, yeah.

I'll put the website in the show notes, and
people can follow you guys onsocial media. Of course,

we thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
Thanks

for coming back See you later. Yeah. Bye. Bye, you.

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