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November 26, 2025 54 mins

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Shirleon joins Melvin to discuss 2013's insane surprise financial hit, Now You See Me! Despite being a critical flop the film was a blockbuster blowout earning nearly 5x its budget! So, who's right, the critics or the audiences? Tune in and find out! 

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  • Editor's Note: No Patreon Exclusive discussion! But, I do intend to trim this episode down from its original 1:08:02 length, so if you want to hear the UNCUT version, tune in on Patreon here!
  • Shirleon says she'd rather rewatch Death Note (2017) than ever watch Now You See Me again.
  • Melvin, "I just thought the movie was bad."
  • Every character basically sucks. If they don't suck, they're boring.
  • Melvin has an issue with how normies and the working-poor are depicted, and he also feels it takes its audience for granted. It thinks its audience is a bunch of morons.
  • Shirleon is overtaken by how much stuff is stuffed into this film, and the two discuss why that's a serious problem.
  • Melvin talks about Safety Not Guaranteed, a movie that's got similar themes of belief and hope but isn't a total mess.
  • Trying to make sense of the ending.

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