April 4, 2023 • 40 mins
When we can detach from out comes and opinions we have found a true peace. When we can understand that our reaction is the enemy and every time we have a negative response we stay stuck in a robotic reality.
In this episode we uncover the trappings of the convoluted system we live in and realize we are not free by just being able to do anything we want, when we want and how we want. We must realign in order to let go of patterns and routines that are not genuinely serving us. Freedom is when we can take the time and space to reconnect with our true nature and higher power to be able choose the things that nurture and support us.
This is how we can create a new reality for ourselves and the world.
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Fortune (00:04):
Welcome all to circuitry. It's time to ignite
your life.
Jean (00:08):
Join us as we explore this episode's thought provoking
topic and what it means to usthrough everyday life challenges
and practical spiritual tools.
Fortune (00:16):
So let's start sharing.
Jean (00:18):
Hello, darling.
Fortune (00:20):
Hello, darling.
Jean (00:22):
How are you today?
Fortune (00:23):
I'm excited. I feel like I had an inside peek
researching this in my soul.
Jean (00:31):
Yeah, we both had some interesting conversations this
week. Yeah, Revelation, and wewere doing our workbook about
coming up, you know, to thisseason of cleansing cleansing
and freedom. And yes, springcleaning. And
Fortune (00:49):
that's why we decided to do freedom. You as our
subject today. Yes, we did.
Yeah, yes. We all want freedom.
We all want it. But do
Jean (00:59):
we know what we're asking for? Yeah, it's
Fortune (01:01):
a hard work. Yes. Hard work. It is hard work. Getting
freedom.
Jean (01:06):
Now. I'm going to start with quote from the edge. No,
no, but the edge. Okay. And I'mparaphrasing edge if you're
listening, and I hope you arelistening. Yes. He wants said,
Be careful. What liberties youmust surrender in the name of
freedom. Yes. And I think that'sa really interesting, convoluted
(01:29):
way. Right.
Fortune (01:30):
Right. Right. So if you want freedom, then you have to
give up some freedom. Yeah.
Well, because it's freedom fromhard work and going out of your
comfort zone. Yes. You know, itmeans you're being free. Oh,
yeah. Because you're just doingsomething that's not work. Not
painful or not taking yourselfto another level? Yes.
Jean (01:49):
Well, we talked about last episode was about ego.
Fortune (01:54):
Yes. And this is definitely. This is
Jean (01:57):
a segue. Yes. Yeah, I think so. Because and I don't
even think we realized that whenwe necessarily like, I think we
realized it, but I don't thinkwe were as zoned in on how it
was actually part two.
Fortune (02:08):
Right. And so we started doing our notes. Yeah.
And then I definitely saw thatthat was a big part of it, you
know? Yeah. Because,
Jean (02:16):
well, in case you didn't listen, you know, we kind of
zoned in on that ego isreceiving for the self alone and
how your soul will resistpositive transformation. That's
how you can figure out that itis the ego driving the boat,
Fortune (02:30):
right. And it's our job to diminish that right. And
Jean (02:34):
to kind of be aware when it happens so that we're not
severing beautiful connectionswe have with people. We're not
bringing more negativity into ascenario. Yes, egos constantly
doing that. Right. And we're notwe're not sabotaging ourselves?
Yeah, well, that's the biggest,you know, we're here to
transform, we're here to havethat self awareness. And that's
(02:55):
what this whole show is about isabout that transformation. All
of the shows.
Fortune (03:03):
They all are, because that's where the meat and
potatoes of happiness andfulfillment and all that good
stuff.
Jean (03:09):
Yeah. So the egos the master, it's the ball and chain.
And it keeps us connected kindof to this physical world. I
think that's one of the thingswe realized is that it's
Fortune (03:20):
what keeps us in the dark. Yeah, keeps us not even to
the physical world, but evenenjoying the physical world and
being able to keep rising.
Jean (03:30):
Yes, but I mean, what I'm saying is, is that the physical
world that comes from all ofthese things that you're trying
to hold on to it, right, andalso make more, you know, bigger
and bolder and better, and thisis who I am. And this is what I
have, and this is what you know,right? And you hold on to that
persona of who you are. But Ithink it's also when we start
(03:54):
getting into freedom,
Fortune (03:56):
while you realize what how much you're a slave to
right. And I think
Jean (03:59):
that even a lot of those things are hidden, and we think
we're, we think last month waswhen not so smart. And we're
constantly in battle with thisphysical realm and trying to get
up, get some fresh air. Andthat's, you know, people talk
about ascending, you know, andit's, it's a very powerful, I
(04:20):
want to say concept going onright now. And a lot of people
have a lot of different ways ofpresenting that and getting
there getting there and, butreally, it's a sending in your
own mind, right. It's yourconscious, it's your
consciousness, and it's really
Fortune (04:36):
that's a choice.
Freedom is a choice. You know,you have to think about it. You
have to know what you're a slaveto recognizing what you're a
slave to. Yes. And what'skeeping you down.
Jean (04:49):
Yeah, I mean, we don't even like acknowledge sometimes
you know that and we haven't hada show about this, but I think
we should, talking about howwe're even influenced by the
planets. Go Yes, absolutely. Youknow, we talked about timing
season energies. But that's alot of the time where that comes
from. And like you're saying,this is the time. Yes. And
there's opening
Fortune (05:09):
ring, spring, it's time for new beginnings. But with new
beginnings, which we werelearning about yesterday, which
we didn't even realize, becausewe're looking up the T,
remember? And when there's anending, there's a beginning,
looking up the T. Yeah. So weare in a process of, if we want
(05:31):
to begin something new, we haveto let go of the old, that's
really hard. It is really hardand let go of the past because
Jean (05:39):
Oh, no, I mean, you know, it's really what you know. And I
think when people say, Oh, letit
Fortune (05:44):
go. Yeah, but holding on to the things that don't
serve you it's not good for youis when it's a time, when it's
no longer serving you.
Jean (05:51):
It's hard to recognize what isn't serving, it's
Fortune (05:54):
gonna say that is a big thing. Because like things like
things that you don't see likeyour approval of others, you
don't see that, you know, youknow, that you need to when we
discuss it go, we need to getrid of that. But that's
something that you just, it'snot so easy to see, we're in our
last episode, we talked a littlebit about that, you know,
because the ego wants theapproval of everybody, you know,
(06:16):
so letting go of that approvalis a big step in freedom. Yeah,
very good. I think
Jean (06:23):
a lot of this show is, you know, if you're just tuning in
for the first time, or if you'rea regular listener, we love you.
But it's really about kind oftaking a look at yourself, and
it's okay, some people areafraid to do the awareness, they
don't really want that change,or they're afraid of the change,
or what's going to be what'sgoing to what's what's am I
going to be on the other side ofthat change, you know, and one
(06:49):
baby step at a time, you know,until you feel like you can, you
know, walk a little faster thanjog and run. And each thing is a
different pace. You don't I'msaying each time you go and say
I'm gonna really take a lookthere. It's, it's all it's all
about starting again, you know?
Fortune (07:06):
Well, I think it's also about a big part of that is
about trust, to like trustingthe creator that we are not in
control. We are not in controlof the outcome. So if we start
something, you know, we have toknow that, okay, it may not look
like this right now. But, youknow, just trust that it's going
(07:26):
to be amazing. But you have tobe able to commit, you commit to
this consciousness of lettinggo. I mean, we're not going to
be able to let go of everything.
But there's so many things thatwe are such a slave to, well,
when
Jean (07:41):
you can at least say I'm going to detach from that
outcome or opinion, then youhave found some level of true
peace, just some level. Yeah.
And when we can understand andwe say this over and over again,
the reaction is every enemy Yes,every single time every single
time. And I know I've been doingthis with acceptance as well,
you know, like,
Fortune (08:02):
if something happens, you know, going, okay, you know
what I mean? I have to justpause here for a minute. And I
have to accept that this isreally this is really such a big
deal. Let it go. If it'ssomething that needs to be, you
know, immediate attention. Yes.
But if it's something about youhave to check yourself, you
know, is it your ego that'sgetting you all riled up and you
(08:23):
feel like you can't accept this?
I can't accept this like this,right. But it's
Jean (08:28):
also do you want to stay down in the muck? Because what
you're doing when you have thatreaction, whether it is
frustration, anger, intolerance,judgment, whatever reaction you
have to something, you'rebasically aligning yourself with
that energy and keeping yourselfwith it? Yes, absolutely. I
mean, that's a very importantconcept. It's like, okay, I've
(08:50):
been doing this thing I told youabout it, and I'm gonna share it
with everybody is working onthose reactions, whatever they
are, we all have them. And, youknow, we had started doing this
thing a while back where, youknow, we went over the concept
of, you know, our thoughts arenot our true voice. So it's
really powerful when you canjust go, this is not what I this
(09:12):
is just a thought, I don't haveto act on it. I don't have to do
anything. Just simply going, Ithought, that's a thought. It's
a thought, I don't want. Yeah.
Backing in I'm going to stopthinking in a negative way. I'm
going to just step back and say,that is not really what I want.
That's a worry, that's ananxiety. And to do that when
you're having those emotions,
Fortune (09:33):
but you have to remember, it's also body
consciousness. So it's not justthe thought you also start to
get angry and you can feel
Jean (09:39):
that's my, that's my next step here. Is that okay? So then
the next is that you have thatreaction. So instead of going,
I'm gonna push that reactiondown, or I'm not gonna just say,
You know what, this, this angerdoesn't do anything to serve me.
Right? It says, This is not thethis is not the way I want to
feel. I'm not going to feel thatway. Right, right. I'm going to
step back. I'm not going tojudge that person. I'm not going
(09:59):
to be in tall and
Fortune (10:00):
make that change.
That's changing of it just beingconscious
Jean (10:03):
of it when it starts to rise up going, anger does not do
anything to help me. Now, it'sso powerful. It is so powerful
and it's like it is reallybrought this sense of but it put
Fortune (10:14):
put your handcuffs on again. You know what put your
handcuffs on again, when you getangry or when you get angry.
Yeah. And slaves you it enslavesyou to whatever it is that
you're getting.
Jean (10:25):
It aligns you with that energy of darkness, darkness and
muck. And we don't want it. Solet's talk about some of the
things. Maybe I think that'swhere you're going before that
enslave us that we don't evenrealize we got the handcuffs on
we don't even
Fortune (10:43):
what you were saying about detachment, you know what
I mean? So that's really whatthat's about. It's about seeing
that you're so attached to yourmoney, your job, your status,
what people think all thosethings, you know what I mean?
Alright, so I'm gonna throw outsome things marriage or
children. I mean, there's somany things, your car,
everything.
Jean (11:01):
Let's talk about oh, crazy. Okay. Not in general,
let's talk about, let's bringthem out. Because I think it's
important for people to go, Ahaor Yeah, I knew that. But maybe
I need to work on it a littlebit more. So let's I put a list
of things in my own thoughtsabout them. And I know you'll be
ready to respond. Because wetalked a little before the show.
Yeah. You said you had some ofthese. Same, same. Same thing.
(11:24):
Thoughts? Yeah. All right. So ittechnology. Yeah. How is that
enslaving us? How is that? Howdoes that something that was
supposed to give us a liberatingexperience? Yeah, I
Fortune (11:36):
have. I have a story happen. My daughter left her
phone. And she got upset. Shewas angry. She left her phone at
home. And she just starteddriving. And she got lost, call
me from a payphone or whatever.
And it's like, how do I gethome? You know? So like your
phone. I'm like, wow, we didn'thave phones. Now, when I was her
age, we had to figure it out.
(11:59):
And so like, she was in thestate of panic, because she
couldn't figure it out. Likewill ask for directions.
Jean (12:06):
Well, again, you're not paying attention to the world
around you, you're payingattention to the technology.
You're watching that GPS, turnlight at the next light, right?
But how come that's fine, butwe're on turning right? There's
a big tree that has a yellowmailbox in it. So when I'm
coming back, I know I need to goin the opposite direction.
Fortune (12:23):
That's fine. But just knowing that you're not a slave
to it, that knowing that if youdid leave your phone at home,
you could ask for direction,
Jean (12:32):
right? But it was supposed to give us more time. More it
was supposed to liberate us fromI think it's done the opposite.
Oh, yeah. You don't know whereyou're going? Well, data
specifically within thatexample, but I think that it is,
we did not get more time. We didnot get more time by with more
stuff, right? It just madethings more complicated. Okay,
(12:53):
so now it's you got emails toanswer this text messages,
there's a you got to watch thelatest tick tock, you gotta be
you're just up if you're notkeeping up with all that you're
not in the loop you're not in
Fortune (13:05):
and there's less time to connect with nature or less
time to do your meditating, orreally connect with your
thoughts and what's happening.
So you lose time you lose time,
Jean (13:15):
I can remember when I was when we were working together.
And they asked me to be adistrict manager. And I was
supposed to go to all thelocations in the region. And
then they also wanted me to helpset up stores. And so it was it
was before cell phones, right?
And they came in they said,Well, we're gonna have a package
delivered to you so that we cantake can keep in touch when you
(13:37):
went on the road. And they gaveme a pager and I think you
remember my reaction like, I'mnot I don't want anybody be able
to get in contact with me whereand wherever I am whenever they
want. Yeah, I was. I was solike, insulted by this. And so
inconvenienced
Fortune (13:53):
by and now it's like you can't go anywhere without
your phone. So we're Yes, that'smy point. We are definitely
enslaved, but that but it goesbeyond what I was trying to say
with the story of my daughter.
It goes beyond that. Okay,because you have to say, Okay, I
like having my phone. I like allthe things that it does for me
how I can connect to so manypositives. Yeah, but I have to
know in my consciousness that ifI did not have that phone, it is
(14:17):
not the end of the world. Right?
I will be okay. And that's whereI think the magic lies for the
freedom is to know in yourconsciousness, that you're okay
without it right.
Jean (14:30):
But let's go on to each one of these subjects because I
think each one of them revealssomething. And each of us
alright, consuming.
Fortune (14:38):
Shopping shopping. Yep.
Yeah, yeah.
Jean (14:41):
It's there's always a commercial coming at you.
There's always something youneed to buy. There's always
something
Fortune (14:48):
and we think that's going to bring happiness as
well. And that's wrong. I think
Jean (14:53):
sometimes it brings momentary happiness. It's the
short circuit, right? You know,it gives you
Fortune (14:57):
happiness for a minute, and well I mean, like, if you're
buying something for somebodythat they really need it and you
feel like you're sharing, it'snot just for the self alone, and
you are sharing with that giftthat always puts a quality that
I think that you know, isnecessary. But I think that we
(15:18):
have become a slave to consumingwe think, Oh,
Jean (15:21):
as soon as I get any money, we think about how we're
going to spend it right.
Fortune (15:25):
Or I need a new thing.
Even if you don't have money,you will charge right, right.
You want a new thing? Like yeah,okay, well, I'm done. This is
all done. Some work is good. I'mjust gonna
Jean (15:34):
call your husband just came back from visiting his his
home country. Yes. And hisexperience was that everyone
lived very humbly. Yes. And theywere very handsome
Fortune (15:44):
areas. Yeah, right.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Just the energywas just amazing. So great. So
grateful for everything,everything. And I feel like, you
know, my kids have so much stuffthat they don't really they have
no respect for it, because it'stoo much. Um, so
Jean (16:01):
the next thing, it's the next thing. Alright. social
status. Oh, yes.
Fortune (16:05):
Status. I have that as well. Okay.
Jean (16:06):
So what are your thoughts on that?
Fortune (16:08):
I think that that's, again, what people think, you
know, you're still worried aboutwhat people think what kind of
car you drive, what house youlive in? I think that
Jean (16:19):
the major latest vacation destination, right? Let me show
everybody. You know,
Fortune (16:23):
I think it's about you know, for me, and we do it, we
judge people. Yeah, we look atpeople who judge Well, wherever
they live, you know, what kindof car do they drive as soon as
you see somebody no old, youknow, broken down car, you're
like you judge them and beingless. And this is something that
has to come to our conscious andgo, no, he's the same as us.
(16:46):
There's no difference. And wehave to be just as compassionate
and loving and kind. Maybe evenmore, so.
Jean (16:54):
Okay. Security measures?
Fortune (16:58):
Oh, well, you're talking to a Taurus. Yeah. Yeah.
Security is various securitymeasures. Oh, what we do to
protect our homes and thingslike well, we do we even
Jean (17:07):
have to before 911, we used to just all meet at the
gate. And then welcome ourfamily home. You can't do that.
Now. You need a pass you need. Iremember when my niece was
coming to visit me all the time,I had to go stand in the line
Wait, just to be able to changeagain.
Fortune (17:23):
It's changed in Florida. They just told me that
you have to go to the cell lot.
And they call you. And then youcome Why yes. Yes. I was just
told us on the phone. Oh, myGod. Yes. Can you believe that?
They'll let you know, whenyou're when you're, you know,
you can pull up? Isn't thatcrazy? Yes. Somebody for
freedoms have been taken awaybecause we
Jean (17:46):
are the intensive surveillance and the measures
taken in scenarios that we'venever experienced before. And I
mean, that brings me back to myfirst quote, it's like, what
liberties are you willing togive up? In order to you know,
you think you're free? Okay. Youthink you're not? You are? So
Fortune (18:05):
yes. And that's one of our things with the USA, you
know, freedom. Listen, we allhave freedom, we all have
freedom of choice. Okay, so itall depends when you open your
eyes every morning, what youchoose. And as you go through
your day, step by step. Alright,so
Jean (18:22):
how about addicted to virtual?
Fortune (18:24):
Oh, yeah. Well, that's the new generation because
nothing's real. Everything isvirtual, very easy
Jean (18:31):
to post something. Yes.
It's very easy to send $10 to aGoFundMe, and you think you're
really doing something. And I'mnot saying that those are not
good actions. Okay. But they arenot connected actions, right? We
get this kind of false self fitsthis kind of false sense, excuse
me, that we've actually donesomething or participated in
(18:54):
something. And we're there's notownhall anymore. There's no
group meeting, there's no, let'sreally sit down and hash this
out. And how do we feel? Andwhat can we make a change about?
Fortune (19:07):
Now I know, we just had I just had that issue with doing
our community connection thatthere was no place to post it
and a bulletin board in aphysical place. And nobody do it
on New Orleans
Jean (19:18):
to come. Nobody wants to come right. Can we zoom it?
Yeah. Can we zoom it? Yeah, no.
Yeah. So we're born into thissociety that has all these
things. And we're kind of evenwilling to enroll our children
into the system that does verylittle to cultivate any real
talents. Or you pointed this outmany times daily skills?
Fortune (19:40):
Yes. But I think Oh, definitely, definitely.
Jean (19:42):
I mean, you know, there's so many things that I think
should be different and they'rejust taught to comply, but I
think that it's time they'regiving all their time. And as
soon as they complete that areathat you know, they this
geometry that they don't reallynever gonna use them right then,
as soon as you get out. Oh,okay, now it's time go to work.
(20:03):
Right? And like as if, as if theschool system was some kind of
pleasure cruise for them. Well,now you have to go to work well,
okay. Here's an example of afuture not a dream. I was
Fortune (20:12):
right. Exactly, exactly. I was exploring school
in Italy. Okay. And they weresaying, well, the downfall the
high school is that they thatthey want you to focus on what
you're, you know, what you wantto follow for a career.
Jean (20:28):
What's your plan that is a downfall of the downfall that is
not a downfall. And I don'tthink that I don't think people
feel this way when they thinkabout it. But I think that we
just go through the system, wejust aren't like, we're little
worker, bees just going okay.
Fortune (20:43):
And this system was constructed back what Second
World War?
Jean (20:47):
Well, I, you know, I don't want to get political on here.
But there was a point in timewhere things really changed in
our school system. It was about,what, 20, almost 30 years ago,
and they changed how childrenwere put through the system. And
they said, no child was beingleft behind that that was not
true. But that was not true. Andthe end, let me tell you
(21:08):
something, I've had some greatexperiences with the school
systems, my daughter has hadnothing but support and great
teachers and whatever. I'm nottalking about that part of it.
I'm not talking about thathumanity within that system. I'm
talking about Islam itself. Yes,
Fortune (21:22):
yes. Yes. And that's, and that gets back to what I was
saying before, it starts withus. So we can't change the
school system. Okay, we can'tchange a lot of things, but we
can change ourselves, okay, andwe can change what we're
surrounded by. And we can changeour thinking, okay. And this is
a time, right, but
Jean (21:42):
what I'm saying these things, cultivate a different
mindset. They are dangerous.
Okay. Most children today, ifyou if you look up, the studies
are depressed. Yes. And they'relooking to disconnect it. Right.
Right. Okay. So so we may not beable to change the entire school
system, but we have to make achange. It's not just about
changing, you know, anorganization or whatever, we
(22:04):
have to change our world, whatwe're connected to. Absolutely.
And you know, it's like, thesekids are getting no real
stimulation in the school in theschool thing, and they're
enslaved to this process. Theydon't want to be there. They're
not. They're not inspired in anyway. Yeah.
Fortune (22:23):
Well, you know, my husband was talking to his
granddaughter over in Argentina.
And she said, Well, what do theywear to school? Do they have to
wear a uniform? And he said, No.
And she's like, Oh, the teachersokay with that. Like, it just is
a different, kind of, like,there's we talked about freedom,
and you can wear whatever youwant. But it goes to a an
(22:45):
extreme, that's just crazy. It'sjust crazy. Like, there's no I
can't explain it, it's just, youhave to have some kind of a
direction. They're all over theplace. Right. But they're all
over the place with everything.
Okay,
Jean (23:01):
we're good? Well, I'm
Fortune (23:03):
just saying for roles, and then there's no rules. Like,
there's rules, but then there'sno rules. So it's like, it's
very confusing to a child, youknow, which is it? You know,
what do we how do we followthat, you know, what kind of
direction is that taking me in.
And like you said, the dream isreally to inspire a child to
dream and to go after somethingthat you want, right? You know,
(23:27):
not make them sit there and dosomething that they want because
Jean (23:33):
it's, that's why it was done, like trying to stay
focused on these things wereenslaved by because we are
upholding all of that by thesystems that we have put in
place. And then we're enrollingour children into it to keep the
to keep the the primary going,just keep it going. Keep it
going. So freedom is reallycomes to you when you can let go
of that programming. And that's,that's kind of the first step.
(23:57):
It's almost like you really haveto see that what you're
robotically doing every day,right, and the things you have
supported financially andemotionally and taught your
children to embrace and youknow, I can remember you know,
when my daughter was 15 and wewe got her her first iPhone,
(24:17):
okay, and she was wanting totake a picture of it and you
know, pose your idolizing
Fortune (24:23):
Wow Yeah, that's not really it was like
Jean (24:25):
you know, it was like to us that was like getting the
keys to the car for the firsttime. Yeah, you know, different
mentality
Fortune (24:31):
but still, while it is a field the same thing, you
know, rolled out there, youknow, good and bad so
Jean (24:37):
it's not easy to get out of that I think it's a moment to
moment consciousness and it'snot something that can just be
you know, you're you've just
Fortune (24:46):
put that but what you're saying is to definitely
to see what we are and so youknow a pullback in Right.
Exactly. And a lot of times thisis another aspect is our
expectations of things, youknow, we think okay, this is how
this should be. So we lose ourfreedom, because we're so
wrapped up in what we want theoutcome to be. Yes. You know
(25:07):
what I mean? So we what do wedo? We try to control it to get
that x outcome. So having thoseexpectations and having that
control and wanting that certainoutcome is all our isn't our
demise? Well,
Jean (25:21):
you know, I think one of the the positive things from
talking about a lot of negativeshere, but I think that spiritual
practices and self awarenesspractices are becoming more
accepted and prevalent. Andpeople are really embracing, you
know, say meditation for one,you know, you know, going into
that quantum field, and justreally letting your mind let go
(25:43):
of this physical place, andattach to a higher frequency of
yourself, right? Not ofanything, not anything but
yourself, you're your ownthoughts, right? Not the
thoughts that are coming at youall day long and constantly
telling you consume socialstatus, to just really let
Fortune (26:01):
go of that connect with a higher place where that
doesn't exist, doesn't existdoesn't exist. And
Jean (26:07):
right, when those thoughts come through, they are thought
they are real freedom. And Iguess so. To me, freedom is
becoming whole with your ownsoul.
Fortune (26:17):
Yes, that's why I know this is silly to connect this,
but the cleansing that we doright now, okay, like, let's say
you're going to clean out acloset, okay, you're taking the
time to be quiet, to starttaking everything out to decide
what you want to keep what youwant to let go of, and really
cleaning everything out. Whenyou put it back. How's that
(26:37):
feeling? You've got rid of allof this new, write all of this
stuff. So that's, but it's alsogiven you the time to think and
really separate? Now I know,what's the material things that
you're separating, but you alsocan use that time to think about
the things that you want to letgo of? Yes. Does it bring you
joy? Exactly. So you know, whenyou get upset every time about
(27:02):
whatever it is, does that bringyou joy? No. So why should you
do it? And why are we holding onto it? Right? So the cleansing,
I feel like, you know, cleaningout the cloth, you know why we
work so hard to get it. But itbut it also the material thing
also transfers to a spiritualthing. Oh, I agree in your
thoughts, okay, so what is it inyour actions and your behaviors
(27:25):
that you need to let go of, andyou want to have that, embrace
that beautiful clean closet,within yourself, you know what I
mean? And start that new, andreally start to see the benefits
from that, you know, take and wedo another thing, we burn all
the things that we want to letgo of, we write take a piece of
paper, and we write downeverything we want to let go of,
and we burn it. And it's in thematerial, but really, it's for
(27:50):
our spiritual well, taking
Jean (27:51):
a physical action, which is setting an intention. You
know, that's so important. And Ithink that's a step that a lot
of people miss is that in orderto really bring something about,
you know, whether it's you'repraying for something or you're
manifesting, you're taking anaction, you need to set the
intention, you need to tell theuniverse, what it is you want,
(28:15):
and to intervene on your behalffor the sake of everyone's
benefit, in a way that is youknow, positive and purifying and
good. And so taking theseactions that you're talking
about, really give people achance to stop. And really
decide,
Fortune (28:34):
right, realign, realign, calculate everything.
Jean (28:38):
You know, I think COVID was an eye opener for a lot of
people. A lot. I know it was forme. Yes. And you literally, you
know, everything got shut down.
People couldn't go to their jobsdaily.
Fortune (28:51):
Everything changed,
Jean (28:52):
you know, so many things.
You couldn't go shopping the wayyou used to. You couldn't end
you had couldn't travel couldn'ttravel, you had to stop, right.
And people kind of realized thishamster wheel Lebanon isn't
going anywhere.
Fortune (29:07):
Well, also, you're grateful for the things too,
when you stop that you don'thave them, you know, you start
to feel some appreciation forthings that use that. Wow, took
that for granted. Yeah, that Icould just go and do that. So
now when I go and do it, I'mgoing to think twice about how I
you know, perceive it
Jean (29:22):
right. But I'm kind of I'm focusing a little bit about that
downtime that was forced uponus, which we never had before.
Right. It's been a long timesince people are not in the rat
race as they call it. They werenot getting from the coffee
machine in their house to thecar to the coffee machine at the
office.
Fortune (29:39):
Well, I times our downtime was to have a drink and
disappear. Yeah, and that's notwhere your downtime should be.
Your downtime should be in yourthoughts. Yes. And really taking
that to another level right. And
Jean (29:52):
then when it was over, when when I said okay, ready to
go back to work. Wait a minute,I don't want to go back to work.
I don't want to I want to goback to that office, those four
walls that have no window oreven worse a cubicle? How is
this freedom? How are we in thissystem? And we really don't want
(30:13):
to be this. We've created thispersona, and we don't even like
it. Yes. We don't even like it.
It makes us upset, right? Soit's really about, I guess,
dismantling that persona. And Iguess we're back to the
Fortune (30:27):
cleaning out, right, but letting go of me to let go
of Yes. And another huge lessonthat we really, I mean, I know
we know this lesson, but likeuncovering it over and over and
over. And it's funny to sayuncover because you know, but
(30:49):
the important thing to get thatfreedom is not going after your
happiness or your fulfillment.
It's working on what doesn'twork, because that's what's
covering that was keeping youfrom that. So if we really work
on all our negative traits, andall our negativity that we deal
with every day, from the minutewe wake up, if we really can be
(31:12):
conscious of those things, andeach little thing that we
overcome, guess what? It sheds alittle more light.
Jean (31:22):
Yeah, and I'm not seeing aligning with your true nature.
Okay, we are in a environmentwhere we do not get the
opportunity to make thosealignments to find those moments
of peace. What you're talkingabout, requires someone to have
some quiet time, yes, to havesome self evaluation, which
brings about the awareness. Soin order to have the true free
(31:46):
talking about, you know, you'vegot to go to that higher power,
you've got to go to nature,you've got to go to a place
where you can connect withyourself again. Yes. And that
means stopping. It meansstopping. It's not even just
pausing. It means stop it, it'salmost it's an it's don't move
into the social pressures turnoff the news. It's not helping
(32:08):
you. But and I'm not saying thatto be aware, I'm just saying,
you're not you're buying intothis fear based society where
you are just constantly being, Iguess, pressure pressure to
react in a way that does is notnatural, or good for you. Yes,
Fortune (32:27):
exactly. Going back to the stopping and pausing and
realigning and all that we talkabout it like, oh, that sounds
wonderful. But guess what it'sreally hard to do. It's hard to
stop. When we want to stop, wewant to sit there and watch a
show. We want to lose our mind,we want to we want to you know,
have a cocktail or, or whateverit is that you know you do to
release. We don't it's work,it's work to pause and really
(32:52):
think and really connect. Butit's so worth it. We have to
care, we have to care aboutourselves that much to take that
time I agree to do those things.
But it's not easy. It's noteasy. It's the last thing you
think of
Jean (33:09):
I gotta say something true freedom is being able to say
this. And I don't mean it's myconstitutional right. I mean,
it's my connection to theCreator. Because what I'm saying
right now is through pastexperiences, or right now that I
am getting this message, right?
And I have to say it right? Sowe need to choose our own
(33:29):
reality. We need to choose love,compassion, no fear, certainty
in the process of selfawareness, choose who you are,
you have the power of your owncreation, the power of a higher
consciousness, and you can tunein and tune out of the false
messages. Yes.
Fortune (33:47):
Another thing is, you know, we're talking about
finding our negative traits, wealso have to see what our good,
what makes us what makes uslight up, you know, and we all
are good stuff. So we can folkput more focus on that, you
know,
Jean (33:59):
like, what is your true purpose?
Fortune (34:01):
Right? Or what, what, what, what is your passion?
Right? What's your passion? Youknow, it is so take that time to
just think about all thosethings. And we have to
Jean (34:10):
support each other in this. Yes, this is important,
what in that is coming from theconnection, and that's
disconnecting when the with theother stuff that are not, that's
not serving us all these thingswe talked about, then enslaved
us, okay, like you said, takethe good, yes, I like having my
phone and some of the thingsthat go with it. But I don't
want to get to the point whereI'm so reliant on it. I'm
(34:31):
missing everything else, right.
Fortune (34:32):
What happens when you lose your phone? What do you do
you?
Jean (34:35):
You panic out?
Fortune (34:36):
So that's what I'm saying. We're enslaved,
everything's on there. Right,right. Or the electric goes out.
Right? Or, I don't know,something gets shut off. You
know, you're just like, Oh, mygoodness. But guess what, like
we used to have we used to livein Florida. Yeah. And we would
have hurricanes. Oh, yeah. Okay.
And I remember the power wouldgo out and, you know, be
destruction and the next day allthe neighborhood would get
(34:59):
together, and we would, youknow, help each other to clean
up and to cook one person wouldcook on the barbecue or
whatever. So everybody cametogether. So with those things
shutting off it also you canfind the light the beauty,
Jean (35:18):
right? So look, we're not saying like through this, like
you should choose isolation,like shut everything down and be
isolated. But I'm saying no, Ithink the other things we said
talking about being like, dude,like we're not suggesting you go
off by yourself somewhere. Andthat's the only way you can have
true freedom. That's not whatwe're saying. We're saying like
what you're saying, You need tocomment those thing where you're
(35:38):
not totally independentthinking, right or
interconnected with yourcommunity and with the people
around you. And then we can wecan trust you and trust each
other
Fortune (35:48):
trust the Creator, trust to create, the outcome is
not up to us, okay, we can onlydo the actions, the outcome is
up to the creator in theuniverse. And, you know, it's
just like the flight yesterday.
Yeah, you know, I was so carefulto get a certain flight from my
husband, so be able to pick themup. So I wouldn't have the I
would get him when the kids werein school and the whole thing.
And it just happened that theairport, he missed his flight,
(36:11):
because they didn't give himenough time to go through
security. And so I had to pickthem up anyways, with so he was
like, Oh, the universe, youknow, like, you don't get to
choose even though I MIT wasvery careful planning that
ticket. Guess what, I didn't getto choose that outcome. And
maybe that was a better outcome.
Maybe the kids were supposed tobe better. Oh, it was beautiful.
(36:32):
And the whole lady was. So it'slike, you know, we just have to
trust that no matter even if itgets messed up, like I said to
him, he was like, Oh, I can'tbelieve that they did this. And
that it Oh, my God, buteverything happens for a reason.
So it's going to be good. Wehave to know,
Jean (36:47):
you know, that's a that's a catchphrase. And you know,
that's, that is true. But Ithink people want some dramatic
thing attached to it. You knowwhat I'm saying? Like, oh, well,
maybe if I would have went onthat plane and would have
crashed? It doesn't have to bethat yeah, just being, you know,
one on the ride home, you got totalk to your children, right.
And you wouldn't have had thattime because they would have
been in school, if you took theother flight, you know, it can
(37:07):
just be F and what? Maybe theyremember that conversation or
maybe something, just thatmoment that you had with them.
Right, you know, so it's reallythe consciousness that goes
into, and also the captain so.
Fortune (37:18):
Right, exactly. And when something bad happens, we
have to understand that there'sa good there's a silver lining
there somewhere. You know, it'sso important this concept, I
know, we keeps driving at home,but it's so important, you know,
whether good or bad, you know,
Jean (37:35):
what's perceived as bad or what's perceived as good? You
know, right. And that's also astrength controller saying, This
is my desire. This is what Iwant the app. And so that
happened. So that's good. Areyou think, right now, because
what I wanted to happen didn'thappen. You don't want the
Creator has a bigger plan, andknows exactly what we need, when
we need it, and how we need it.
And if we can surrender thatbend,
Fortune (38:01):
then we have true freedom. Go with it. Accept it,
like you said, except that Iappreciate it. All those good
things. Yes. And I am just soexcited.
Jean (38:13):
You know, we've said this before that one of our teachers
said to us that freewill isgiving up your freewill to the
Creator. Exactly have free willto do that or not do that.
Right. It was a mind blower.
Right? Yeah. And to me, that'strue freedom. Yeah, because
you're not caught in the muckanymore, you are aligned with
something higher and morepeaceful, and amazing and
(38:36):
amazing. So I don't know ifwe've really told people about
exactly what to do with freedom.
But um, I'm hoping that we wethink about
Fortune (38:52):
once you get the finale, you know, they're all
small can be small freedoms, youknow, little different things
that you can take on to let goof that brings you back to the
rations,
Jean (39:01):
that reaction is the enemy to start even just getting that
under control, as you're freefrom what those people think or
how you respond, or you can go,Wow, no, I'm not going to be
robotic, that
Fortune (39:14):
we're so powerful.
We're so powerful we canovercome. And I have just tried
that a couple of times and seewhat happens. You're gonna go
Jean (39:23):
why is that? Go? I'm exhausted acting that way. Why
am I even that didn't even knowwho I am. Who that person I
created. I mean, like thatperson, right? I don't like
those actions of that person. Orwhen I act like that. I don't
like it. So why am I doing it?
Right? Well, because
Fortune (39:37):
you're used to doing it. That's who I am. And you
think right, you think I'm doingit here, right. And there's your
ego. Hello.
Jean (39:44):
All right. So can we agree that we have talked about
freedom and
Fortune (39:49):
yes, freedom is getting rid of all those negative
things?
Jean (39:54):
Well, yeah, it's about it's about coming to an
understanding in yourself. Andreally what makes any slave what
makes you a slave and and whatyou need to let go of in order
to embrace a new
Fortune (40:08):
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Jean (00:08):
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Fortune (00:16):
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Jean (00:18):
Hello, darling.
Fortune (00:20):
Hello, darling.
Jean (00:22):
How are you today?
Fortune (00:23):
I'm excited. I feel like I had an inside peek
researching this in my soul.
Jean (00:31):
Yeah, we both had some interesting conversations this
week. Yeah, Revelation, and wewere doing our workbook about
coming up, you know, to thisseason of cleansing cleansing
and freedom. And yes, springcleaning. And
Fortune (00:49):
that's why we decided to do freedom. You as our
subject today. Yes, we did.
Yeah, yes. We all want freedom.
We all want it. But do
Jean (00:59):
we know what we're asking for? Yeah, it's
Fortune (01:01):
a hard work. Yes. Hard work. It is hard work. Getting
freedom.
Jean (01:06):
Now. I'm going to start with quote from the edge. No,
no, but the edge. Okay. And I'mparaphrasing edge if you're
listening, and I hope you arelistening. Yes. He wants said,
Be careful. What liberties youmust surrender in the name of
freedom. Yes. And I think that'sa really interesting, convoluted
(01:29):
way. Right.
Fortune (01:30):
Right. Right. So if you want freedom, then you have to
give up some freedom. Yeah.
Well, because it's freedom fromhard work and going out of your
comfort zone. Yes. You know, itmeans you're being free. Oh,
yeah. Because you're just doingsomething that's not work. Not
painful or not taking yourselfto another level? Yes.
Jean (01:49):
Well, we talked about last episode was about ego.
Fortune (01:54):
Yes. And this is definitely. This is
Jean (01:57):
a segue. Yes. Yeah, I think so. Because and I don't
even think we realized that whenwe necessarily like, I think we
realized it, but I don't thinkwe were as zoned in on how it
was actually part two.
Fortune (02:08):
Right. And so we started doing our notes. Yeah.
And then I definitely saw thatthat was a big part of it, you
know? Yeah. Because,
Jean (02:16):
well, in case you didn't listen, you know, we kind of
zoned in on that ego isreceiving for the self alone and
how your soul will resistpositive transformation. That's
how you can figure out that itis the ego driving the boat,
Fortune (02:30):
right. And it's our job to diminish that right. And
Jean (02:34):
to kind of be aware when it happens so that we're not
severing beautiful connectionswe have with people. We're not
bringing more negativity into ascenario. Yes, egos constantly
doing that. Right. And we're notwe're not sabotaging ourselves?
Yeah, well, that's the biggest,you know, we're here to
transform, we're here to havethat self awareness. And that's
(02:55):
what this whole show is about isabout that transformation. All
of the shows.
Fortune (03:03):
They all are, because that's where the meat and
potatoes of happiness andfulfillment and all that good
stuff.
Jean (03:09):
Yeah. So the egos the master, it's the ball and chain.
And it keeps us connected kindof to this physical world. I
think that's one of the thingswe realized is that it's
Fortune (03:20):
what keeps us in the dark. Yeah, keeps us not even to
the physical world, but evenenjoying the physical world and
being able to keep rising.
Jean (03:30):
Yes, but I mean, what I'm saying is, is that the physical
world that comes from all ofthese things that you're trying
to hold on to it, right, andalso make more, you know, bigger
and bolder and better, and thisis who I am. And this is what I
have, and this is what you know,right? And you hold on to that
persona of who you are. But Ithink it's also when we start
(03:54):
getting into freedom,
Fortune (03:56):
while you realize what how much you're a slave to
right. And I think
Jean (03:59):
that even a lot of those things are hidden, and we think
we're, we think last month waswhen not so smart. And we're
constantly in battle with thisphysical realm and trying to get
up, get some fresh air. Andthat's, you know, people talk
about ascending, you know, andit's, it's a very powerful, I
(04:20):
want to say concept going onright now. And a lot of people
have a lot of different ways ofpresenting that and getting
there getting there and, butreally, it's a sending in your
own mind, right. It's yourconscious, it's your
consciousness, and it's really
Fortune (04:36):
that's a choice.
Freedom is a choice. You know,you have to think about it. You
have to know what you're a slaveto recognizing what you're a
slave to. Yes. And what'skeeping you down.
Jean (04:49):
Yeah, I mean, we don't even like acknowledge sometimes
you know that and we haven't hada show about this, but I think
we should, talking about howwe're even influenced by the
planets. Go Yes, absolutely. Youknow, we talked about timing
season energies. But that's alot of the time where that comes
from. And like you're saying,this is the time. Yes. And
there's opening
Fortune (05:09):
ring, spring, it's time for new beginnings. But with new
beginnings, which we werelearning about yesterday, which
we didn't even realize, becausewe're looking up the T,
remember? And when there's anending, there's a beginning,
looking up the T. Yeah. So weare in a process of, if we want
(05:31):
to begin something new, we haveto let go of the old, that's
really hard. It is really hardand let go of the past because
Jean (05:39):
Oh, no, I mean, you know, it's really what you know. And I
think when people say, Oh, letit
Fortune (05:44):
go. Yeah, but holding on to the things that don't
serve you it's not good for youis when it's a time, when it's
no longer serving you.
Jean (05:51):
It's hard to recognize what isn't serving, it's
Fortune (05:54):
gonna say that is a big thing. Because like things like
things that you don't see likeyour approval of others, you
don't see that, you know, youknow, that you need to when we
discuss it go, we need to getrid of that. But that's
something that you just, it'snot so easy to see, we're in our
last episode, we talked a littlebit about that, you know,
because the ego wants theapproval of everybody, you know,
(06:16):
so letting go of that approvalis a big step in freedom. Yeah,
very good. I think
Jean (06:23):
a lot of this show is, you know, if you're just tuning in
for the first time, or if you'rea regular listener, we love you.
But it's really about kind oftaking a look at yourself, and
it's okay, some people areafraid to do the awareness, they
don't really want that change,or they're afraid of the change,
or what's going to be what'sgoing to what's what's am I
going to be on the other side ofthat change, you know, and one
(06:49):
baby step at a time, you know,until you feel like you can, you
know, walk a little faster thanjog and run. And each thing is a
different pace. You don't I'msaying each time you go and say
I'm gonna really take a lookthere. It's, it's all it's all
about starting again, you know?
Fortune (07:06):
Well, I think it's also about a big part of that is
about trust, to like trustingthe creator that we are not in
control. We are not in controlof the outcome. So if we start
something, you know, we have toknow that, okay, it may not look
like this right now. But, youknow, just trust that it's going
(07:26):
to be amazing. But you have tobe able to commit, you commit to
this consciousness of lettinggo. I mean, we're not going to
be able to let go of everything.
But there's so many things thatwe are such a slave to, well,
when
Jean (07:41):
you can at least say I'm going to detach from that
outcome or opinion, then youhave found some level of true
peace, just some level. Yeah.
And when we can understand andwe say this over and over again,
the reaction is every enemy Yes,every single time every single
time. And I know I've been doingthis with acceptance as well,
you know, like,
Fortune (08:02):
if something happens, you know, going, okay, you know
what I mean? I have to justpause here for a minute. And I
have to accept that this isreally this is really such a big
deal. Let it go. If it'ssomething that needs to be, you
know, immediate attention. Yes.
But if it's something about youhave to check yourself, you
know, is it your ego that'sgetting you all riled up and you
(08:23):
feel like you can't accept this?
I can't accept this like this,right. But it's
Jean (08:28):
also do you want to stay down in the muck? Because what
you're doing when you have thatreaction, whether it is
frustration, anger, intolerance,judgment, whatever reaction you
have to something, you'rebasically aligning yourself with
that energy and keeping yourselfwith it? Yes, absolutely. I
mean, that's a very importantconcept. It's like, okay, I've
(08:50):
been doing this thing I told youabout it, and I'm gonna share it
with everybody is working onthose reactions, whatever they
are, we all have them. And, youknow, we had started doing this
thing a while back where, youknow, we went over the concept
of, you know, our thoughts arenot our true voice. So it's
really powerful when you canjust go, this is not what I this
(09:12):
is just a thought, I don't haveto act on it. I don't have to do
anything. Just simply going, Ithought, that's a thought. It's
a thought, I don't want. Yeah.
Backing in I'm going to stopthinking in a negative way. I'm
going to just step back and say,that is not really what I want.
That's a worry, that's ananxiety. And to do that when
you're having those emotions,
Fortune (09:33):
but you have to remember, it's also body
consciousness. So it's not justthe thought you also start to
get angry and you can feel
Jean (09:39):
that's my, that's my next step here. Is that okay? So then
the next is that you have thatreaction. So instead of going,
I'm gonna push that reactiondown, or I'm not gonna just say,
You know what, this, this angerdoesn't do anything to serve me.
Right? It says, This is not thethis is not the way I want to
feel. I'm not going to feel thatway. Right, right. I'm going to
step back. I'm not going tojudge that person. I'm not going
(09:59):
to be in tall and
Fortune (10:00):
make that change.
That's changing of it just beingconscious
Jean (10:03):
of it when it starts to rise up going, anger does not do
anything to help me. Now, it'sso powerful. It is so powerful
and it's like it is reallybrought this sense of but it put
Fortune (10:14):
put your handcuffs on again. You know what put your
handcuffs on again, when you getangry or when you get angry.
Yeah. And slaves you it enslavesyou to whatever it is that
you're getting.
Jean (10:25):
It aligns you with that energy of darkness, darkness and
muck. And we don't want it. Solet's talk about some of the
things. Maybe I think that'swhere you're going before that
enslave us that we don't evenrealize we got the handcuffs on
we don't even
Fortune (10:43):
what you were saying about detachment, you know what
I mean? So that's really whatthat's about. It's about seeing
that you're so attached to yourmoney, your job, your status,
what people think all thosethings, you know what I mean?
Alright, so I'm gonna throw outsome things marriage or
children. I mean, there's somany things, your car,
everything.
Jean (11:01):
Let's talk about oh, crazy. Okay. Not in general,
let's talk about, let's bringthem out. Because I think it's
important for people to go, Ahaor Yeah, I knew that. But maybe
I need to work on it a littlebit more. So let's I put a list
of things in my own thoughtsabout them. And I know you'll be
ready to respond. Because wetalked a little before the show.
Yeah. You said you had some ofthese. Same, same. Same thing.
(11:24):
Thoughts? Yeah. All right. So ittechnology. Yeah. How is that
enslaving us? How is that? Howdoes that something that was
supposed to give us a liberatingexperience? Yeah, I
Fortune (11:36):
have. I have a story happen. My daughter left her
phone. And she got upset. Shewas angry. She left her phone at
home. And she just starteddriving. And she got lost, call
me from a payphone or whatever.
And it's like, how do I gethome? You know? So like your
phone. I'm like, wow, we didn'thave phones. Now, when I was her
age, we had to figure it out.
(11:59):
And so like, she was in thestate of panic, because she
couldn't figure it out. Likewill ask for directions.
Jean (12:06):
Well, again, you're not paying attention to the world
around you, you're payingattention to the technology.
You're watching that GPS, turnlight at the next light, right?
But how come that's fine, butwe're on turning right? There's
a big tree that has a yellowmailbox in it. So when I'm
coming back, I know I need to goin the opposite direction.
Fortune (12:23):
That's fine. But just knowing that you're not a slave
to it, that knowing that if youdid leave your phone at home,
you could ask for direction,
Jean (12:32):
right? But it was supposed to give us more time. More it
was supposed to liberate us fromI think it's done the opposite.
Oh, yeah. You don't know whereyou're going? Well, data
specifically within thatexample, but I think that it is,
we did not get more time. We didnot get more time by with more
stuff, right? It just madethings more complicated. Okay,
(12:53):
so now it's you got emails toanswer this text messages,
there's a you got to watch thelatest tick tock, you gotta be
you're just up if you're notkeeping up with all that you're
not in the loop you're not in
Fortune (13:05):
and there's less time to connect with nature or less
time to do your meditating, orreally connect with your
thoughts and what's happening.
So you lose time you lose time,
Jean (13:15):
I can remember when I was when we were working together.
And they asked me to be adistrict manager. And I was
supposed to go to all thelocations in the region. And
then they also wanted me to helpset up stores. And so it was it
was before cell phones, right?
And they came in they said,Well, we're gonna have a package
delivered to you so that we cantake can keep in touch when you
(13:37):
went on the road. And they gaveme a pager and I think you
remember my reaction like, I'mnot I don't want anybody be able
to get in contact with me whereand wherever I am whenever they
want. Yeah, I was. I was solike, insulted by this. And so
inconvenienced
Fortune (13:53):
by and now it's like you can't go anywhere without
your phone. So we're Yes, that'smy point. We are definitely
enslaved, but that but it goesbeyond what I was trying to say
with the story of my daughter.
It goes beyond that. Okay,because you have to say, Okay, I
like having my phone. I like allthe things that it does for me
how I can connect to so manypositives. Yeah, but I have to
know in my consciousness that ifI did not have that phone, it is
(14:17):
not the end of the world. Right?
I will be okay. And that's whereI think the magic lies for the
freedom is to know in yourconsciousness, that you're okay
without it right.
Jean (14:30):
But let's go on to each one of these subjects because I
think each one of them revealssomething. And each of us
alright, consuming.
Fortune (14:38):
Shopping shopping. Yep.
Yeah, yeah.
Jean (14:41):
It's there's always a commercial coming at you.
There's always something youneed to buy. There's always
something
Fortune (14:48):
and we think that's going to bring happiness as
well. And that's wrong. I think
Jean (14:53):
sometimes it brings momentary happiness. It's the
short circuit, right? You know,it gives you
Fortune (14:57):
happiness for a minute, and well I mean, like, if you're
buying something for somebodythat they really need it and you
feel like you're sharing, it'snot just for the self alone, and
you are sharing with that giftthat always puts a quality that
I think that you know, isnecessary. But I think that we
(15:18):
have become a slave to consumingwe think, Oh,
Jean (15:21):
as soon as I get any money, we think about how we're
going to spend it right.
Fortune (15:25):
Or I need a new thing.
Even if you don't have money,you will charge right, right.
You want a new thing? Like yeah,okay, well, I'm done. This is
all done. Some work is good. I'mjust gonna
Jean (15:34):
call your husband just came back from visiting his his
home country. Yes. And hisexperience was that everyone
lived very humbly. Yes. And theywere very handsome
Fortune (15:44):
areas. Yeah, right.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Just the energywas just amazing. So great. So
grateful for everything,everything. And I feel like, you
know, my kids have so much stuffthat they don't really they have
no respect for it, because it'stoo much. Um, so
Jean (16:01):
the next thing, it's the next thing. Alright. social
status. Oh, yes.
Fortune (16:05):
Status. I have that as well. Okay.
Jean (16:06):
So what are your thoughts on that?
Fortune (16:08):
I think that that's, again, what people think, you
know, you're still worried aboutwhat people think what kind of
car you drive, what house youlive in? I think that
Jean (16:19):
the major latest vacation destination, right? Let me show
everybody. You know,
Fortune (16:23):
I think it's about you know, for me, and we do it, we
judge people. Yeah, we look atpeople who judge Well, wherever
they live, you know, what kindof car do they drive as soon as
you see somebody no old, youknow, broken down car, you're
like you judge them and beingless. And this is something that
has to come to our conscious andgo, no, he's the same as us.
(16:46):
There's no difference. And wehave to be just as compassionate
and loving and kind. Maybe evenmore, so.
Jean (16:54):
Okay. Security measures?
Fortune (16:58):
Oh, well, you're talking to a Taurus. Yeah. Yeah.
Security is various securitymeasures. Oh, what we do to
protect our homes and thingslike well, we do we even
Jean (17:07):
have to before 911, we used to just all meet at the
gate. And then welcome ourfamily home. You can't do that.
Now. You need a pass you need. Iremember when my niece was
coming to visit me all the time,I had to go stand in the line
Wait, just to be able to changeagain.
Fortune (17:23):
It's changed in Florida. They just told me that
you have to go to the cell lot.
And they call you. And then youcome Why yes. Yes. I was just
told us on the phone. Oh, myGod. Yes. Can you believe that?
They'll let you know, whenyou're when you're, you know,
you can pull up? Isn't thatcrazy? Yes. Somebody for
freedoms have been taken awaybecause we
Jean (17:46):
are the intensive surveillance and the measures
taken in scenarios that we'venever experienced before. And I
mean, that brings me back to myfirst quote, it's like, what
liberties are you willing togive up? In order to you know,
you think you're free? Okay. Youthink you're not? You are? So
Fortune (18:05):
yes. And that's one of our things with the USA, you
know, freedom. Listen, we allhave freedom, we all have
freedom of choice. Okay, so itall depends when you open your
eyes every morning, what youchoose. And as you go through
your day, step by step. Alright,so
Jean (18:22):
how about addicted to virtual?
Fortune (18:24):
Oh, yeah. Well, that's the new generation because
nothing's real. Everything isvirtual, very easy
Jean (18:31):
to post something. Yes.
It's very easy to send $10 to aGoFundMe, and you think you're
really doing something. And I'mnot saying that those are not
good actions. Okay. But they arenot connected actions, right? We
get this kind of false self fitsthis kind of false sense, excuse
me, that we've actually donesomething or participated in
(18:54):
something. And we're there's notownhall anymore. There's no
group meeting, there's no, let'sreally sit down and hash this
out. And how do we feel? Andwhat can we make a change about?
Fortune (19:07):
Now I know, we just had I just had that issue with doing
our community connection thatthere was no place to post it
and a bulletin board in aphysical place. And nobody do it
on New Orleans
Jean (19:18):
to come. Nobody wants to come right. Can we zoom it?
Yeah. Can we zoom it? Yeah, no.
Yeah. So we're born into thissociety that has all these
things. And we're kind of evenwilling to enroll our children
into the system that does verylittle to cultivate any real
talents. Or you pointed this outmany times daily skills?
Fortune (19:40):
Yes. But I think Oh, definitely, definitely.
Jean (19:42):
I mean, you know, there's so many things that I think
should be different and they'rejust taught to comply, but I
think that it's time they'regiving all their time. And as
soon as they complete that areathat you know, they this
geometry that they don't reallynever gonna use them right then,
as soon as you get out. Oh,okay, now it's time go to work.
(20:03):
Right? And like as if, as if theschool system was some kind of
pleasure cruise for them. Well,now you have to go to work well,
okay. Here's an example of afuture not a dream. I was
Fortune (20:12):
right. Exactly, exactly. I was exploring school
in Italy. Okay. And they weresaying, well, the downfall the
high school is that they thatthey want you to focus on what
you're, you know, what you wantto follow for a career.
Jean (20:28):
What's your plan that is a downfall of the downfall that is
not a downfall. And I don'tthink that I don't think people
feel this way when they thinkabout it. But I think that we
just go through the system, wejust aren't like, we're little
worker, bees just going okay.
Fortune (20:43):
And this system was constructed back what Second
World War?
Jean (20:47):
Well, I, you know, I don't want to get political on here.
But there was a point in timewhere things really changed in
our school system. It was about,what, 20, almost 30 years ago,
and they changed how childrenwere put through the system. And
they said, no child was beingleft behind that that was not
true. But that was not true. Andthe end, let me tell you
(21:08):
something, I've had some greatexperiences with the school
systems, my daughter has hadnothing but support and great
teachers and whatever. I'm nottalking about that part of it.
I'm not talking about thathumanity within that system. I'm
talking about Islam itself. Yes,
Fortune (21:22):
yes. Yes. And that's, and that gets back to what I was
saying before, it starts withus. So we can't change the
school system. Okay, we can'tchange a lot of things, but we
can change ourselves, okay, andwe can change what we're
surrounded by. And we can changeour thinking, okay. And this is
a time, right, but
Jean (21:42):
what I'm saying these things, cultivate a different
mindset. They are dangerous.
Okay. Most children today, ifyou if you look up, the studies
are depressed. Yes. And they'relooking to disconnect it. Right.
Right. Okay. So so we may not beable to change the entire school
system, but we have to make achange. It's not just about
changing, you know, anorganization or whatever, we
(22:04):
have to change our world, whatwe're connected to. Absolutely.
And you know, it's like, thesekids are getting no real
stimulation in the school in theschool thing, and they're
enslaved to this process. Theydon't want to be there. They're
not. They're not inspired in anyway. Yeah.
Fortune (22:23):
Well, you know, my husband was talking to his
granddaughter over in Argentina.
And she said, Well, what do theywear to school? Do they have to
wear a uniform? And he said, No.
And she's like, Oh, the teachersokay with that. Like, it just is
a different, kind of, like,there's we talked about freedom,
and you can wear whatever youwant. But it goes to a an
(22:45):
extreme, that's just crazy. It'sjust crazy. Like, there's no I
can't explain it, it's just, youhave to have some kind of a
direction. They're all over theplace. Right. But they're all
over the place with everything.
Okay,
Jean (23:01):
we're good? Well, I'm
Fortune (23:03):
just saying for roles, and then there's no rules. Like,
there's rules, but then there'sno rules. So it's like, it's
very confusing to a child, youknow, which is it? You know,
what do we how do we followthat, you know, what kind of
direction is that taking me in.
And like you said, the dream isreally to inspire a child to
dream and to go after somethingthat you want, right? You know,
(23:27):
not make them sit there and dosomething that they want because
Jean (23:33):
it's, that's why it was done, like trying to stay
focused on these things wereenslaved by because we are
upholding all of that by thesystems that we have put in
place. And then we're enrollingour children into it to keep the
to keep the the primary going,just keep it going. Keep it
going. So freedom is reallycomes to you when you can let go
of that programming. And that's,that's kind of the first step.
(23:57):
It's almost like you really haveto see that what you're
robotically doing every day,right, and the things you have
supported financially andemotionally and taught your
children to embrace and youknow, I can remember you know,
when my daughter was 15 and wewe got her her first iPhone,
(24:17):
okay, and she was wanting totake a picture of it and you
know, pose your idolizing
Fortune (24:23):
Wow Yeah, that's not really it was like
Jean (24:25):
you know, it was like to us that was like getting the
keys to the car for the firsttime. Yeah, you know, different
mentality
Fortune (24:31):
but still, while it is a field the same thing, you
know, rolled out there, youknow, good and bad so
Jean (24:37):
it's not easy to get out of that I think it's a moment to
moment consciousness and it'snot something that can just be
you know, you're you've just
Fortune (24:46):
put that but what you're saying is to definitely
to see what we are and so youknow a pullback in Right.
Exactly. And a lot of times thisis another aspect is our
expectations of things, youknow, we think okay, this is how
this should be. So we lose ourfreedom, because we're so
wrapped up in what we want theoutcome to be. Yes. You know
(25:07):
what I mean? So we what do wedo? We try to control it to get
that x outcome. So having thoseexpectations and having that
control and wanting that certainoutcome is all our isn't our
demise? Well,
Jean (25:21):
you know, I think one of the the positive things from
talking about a lot of negativeshere, but I think that spiritual
practices and self awarenesspractices are becoming more
accepted and prevalent. Andpeople are really embracing, you
know, say meditation for one,you know, you know, going into
that quantum field, and justreally letting your mind let go
(25:43):
of this physical place, andattach to a higher frequency of
yourself, right? Not ofanything, not anything but
yourself, you're your ownthoughts, right? Not the
thoughts that are coming at youall day long and constantly
telling you consume socialstatus, to just really let
Fortune (26:01):
go of that connect with a higher place where that
doesn't exist, doesn't existdoesn't exist. And
Jean (26:07):
right, when those thoughts come through, they are thought
they are real freedom. And Iguess so. To me, freedom is
becoming whole with your ownsoul.
Fortune (26:17):
Yes, that's why I know this is silly to connect this,
but the cleansing that we doright now, okay, like, let's say
you're going to clean out acloset, okay, you're taking the
time to be quiet, to starttaking everything out to decide
what you want to keep what youwant to let go of, and really
cleaning everything out. Whenyou put it back. How's that
(26:37):
feeling? You've got rid of allof this new, write all of this
stuff. So that's, but it's alsogiven you the time to think and
really separate? Now I know,what's the material things that
you're separating, but you alsocan use that time to think about
the things that you want to letgo of? Yes. Does it bring you
joy? Exactly. So you know, whenyou get upset every time about
(27:02):
whatever it is, does that bringyou joy? No. So why should you
do it? And why are we holding onto it? Right? So the cleansing,
I feel like, you know, cleaningout the cloth, you know why we
work so hard to get it. But itbut it also the material thing
also transfers to a spiritualthing. Oh, I agree in your
thoughts, okay, so what is it inyour actions and your behaviors
(27:25):
that you need to let go of, andyou want to have that, embrace
that beautiful clean closet,within yourself, you know what I
mean? And start that new, andreally start to see the benefits
from that, you know, take and wedo another thing, we burn all
the things that we want to letgo of, we write take a piece of
paper, and we write downeverything we want to let go of,
and we burn it. And it's in thematerial, but really, it's for
(27:50):
our spiritual well, taking
Jean (27:51):
a physical action, which is setting an intention. You
know, that's so important. And Ithink that's a step that a lot
of people miss is that in orderto really bring something about,
you know, whether it's you'repraying for something or you're
manifesting, you're taking anaction, you need to set the
intention, you need to tell theuniverse, what it is you want,
(28:15):
and to intervene on your behalffor the sake of everyone's
benefit, in a way that is youknow, positive and purifying and
good. And so taking theseactions that you're talking
about, really give people achance to stop. And really
decide,
Fortune (28:34):
right, realign, realign, calculate everything.
Jean (28:38):
You know, I think COVID was an eye opener for a lot of
people. A lot. I know it was forme. Yes. And you literally, you
know, everything got shut down.
People couldn't go to their jobsdaily.
Fortune (28:51):
Everything changed,
Jean (28:52):
you know, so many things.
You couldn't go shopping the wayyou used to. You couldn't end
you had couldn't travel couldn'ttravel, you had to stop, right.
And people kind of realized thishamster wheel Lebanon isn't
going anywhere.
Fortune (29:07):
Well, also, you're grateful for the things too,
when you stop that you don'thave them, you know, you start
to feel some appreciation forthings that use that. Wow, took
that for granted. Yeah, that Icould just go and do that. So
now when I go and do it, I'mgoing to think twice about how I
you know, perceive it
Jean (29:22):
right. But I'm kind of I'm focusing a little bit about that
downtime that was forced uponus, which we never had before.
Right. It's been a long timesince people are not in the rat
race as they call it. They werenot getting from the coffee
machine in their house to thecar to the coffee machine at the
office.
Fortune (29:39):
Well, I times our downtime was to have a drink and
disappear. Yeah, and that's notwhere your downtime should be.
Your downtime should be in yourthoughts. Yes. And really taking
that to another level right. And
Jean (29:52):
then when it was over, when when I said okay, ready to
go back to work. Wait a minute,I don't want to go back to work.
I don't want to I want to goback to that office, those four
walls that have no window oreven worse a cubicle? How is
this freedom? How are we in thissystem? And we really don't want
(30:13):
to be this. We've created thispersona, and we don't even like
it. Yes. We don't even like it.
It makes us upset, right? Soit's really about, I guess,
dismantling that persona. And Iguess we're back to the
Fortune (30:27):
cleaning out, right, but letting go of me to let go
of Yes. And another huge lessonthat we really, I mean, I know
we know this lesson, but likeuncovering it over and over and
over. And it's funny to sayuncover because you know, but
(30:49):
the important thing to get thatfreedom is not going after your
happiness or your fulfillment.
It's working on what doesn'twork, because that's what's
covering that was keeping youfrom that. So if we really work
on all our negative traits, andall our negativity that we deal
with every day, from the minutewe wake up, if we really can be
(31:12):
conscious of those things, andeach little thing that we
overcome, guess what? It sheds alittle more light.
Jean (31:22):
Yeah, and I'm not seeing aligning with your true nature.
Okay, we are in a environmentwhere we do not get the
opportunity to make thosealignments to find those moments
of peace. What you're talkingabout, requires someone to have
some quiet time, yes, to havesome self evaluation, which
brings about the awareness. Soin order to have the true free
(31:46):
talking about, you know, you'vegot to go to that higher power,
you've got to go to nature,you've got to go to a place
where you can connect withyourself again. Yes. And that
means stopping. It meansstopping. It's not even just
pausing. It means stop it, it'salmost it's an it's don't move
into the social pressures turnoff the news. It's not helping
(32:08):
you. But and I'm not saying thatto be aware, I'm just saying,
you're not you're buying intothis fear based society where
you are just constantly being, Iguess, pressure pressure to
react in a way that does is notnatural, or good for you. Yes,
Fortune (32:27):
exactly. Going back to the stopping and pausing and
realigning and all that we talkabout it like, oh, that sounds
wonderful. But guess what it'sreally hard to do. It's hard to
stop. When we want to stop, wewant to sit there and watch a
show. We want to lose our mind,we want to we want to you know,
have a cocktail or, or whateverit is that you know you do to
release. We don't it's work,it's work to pause and really
(32:52):
think and really connect. Butit's so worth it. We have to
care, we have to care aboutourselves that much to take that
time I agree to do those things.
But it's not easy. It's noteasy. It's the last thing you
think of
Jean (33:09):
I gotta say something true freedom is being able to say
this. And I don't mean it's myconstitutional right. I mean,
it's my connection to theCreator. Because what I'm saying
right now is through pastexperiences, or right now that I
am getting this message, right?
And I have to say it right? Sowe need to choose our own
(33:29):
reality. We need to choose love,compassion, no fear, certainty
in the process of selfawareness, choose who you are,
you have the power of your owncreation, the power of a higher
consciousness, and you can tunein and tune out of the false
messages. Yes.
Fortune (33:47):
Another thing is, you know, we're talking about
finding our negative traits, wealso have to see what our good,
what makes us what makes uslight up, you know, and we all
are good stuff. So we can folkput more focus on that, you
know,
Jean (33:59):
like, what is your true purpose?
Fortune (34:01):
Right? Or what, what, what, what is your passion?
Right? What's your passion? Youknow, it is so take that time to
just think about all thosethings. And we have to
Jean (34:10):
support each other in this. Yes, this is important,
what in that is coming from theconnection, and that's
disconnecting when the with theother stuff that are not, that's
not serving us all these thingswe talked about, then enslaved
us, okay, like you said, takethe good, yes, I like having my
phone and some of the thingsthat go with it. But I don't
want to get to the point whereI'm so reliant on it. I'm
(34:31):
missing everything else, right.
Fortune (34:32):
What happens when you lose your phone? What do you do
you?
Jean (34:35):
You panic out?
Fortune (34:36):
So that's what I'm saying. We're enslaved,
everything's on there. Right,right. Or the electric goes out.
Right? Or, I don't know,something gets shut off. You
know, you're just like, Oh, mygoodness. But guess what, like
we used to have we used to livein Florida. Yeah. And we would
have hurricanes. Oh, yeah. Okay.
And I remember the power wouldgo out and, you know, be
destruction and the next day allthe neighborhood would get
(34:59):
together, and we would, youknow, help each other to clean
up and to cook one person wouldcook on the barbecue or
whatever. So everybody cametogether. So with those things
shutting off it also you canfind the light the beauty,
Jean (35:18):
right? So look, we're not saying like through this, like
you should choose isolation,like shut everything down and be
isolated. But I'm saying no, Ithink the other things we said
talking about being like, dude,like we're not suggesting you go
off by yourself somewhere. Andthat's the only way you can have
true freedom. That's not whatwe're saying. We're saying like
what you're saying, You need tocomment those thing where you're
(35:38):
not totally independentthinking, right or
interconnected with yourcommunity and with the people
around you. And then we can wecan trust you and trust each
other
Fortune (35:48):
trust the Creator, trust to create, the outcome is
not up to us, okay, we can onlydo the actions, the outcome is
up to the creator in theuniverse. And, you know, it's
just like the flight yesterday.
Yeah, you know, I was so carefulto get a certain flight from my
husband, so be able to pick themup. So I wouldn't have the I
would get him when the kids werein school and the whole thing.
And it just happened that theairport, he missed his flight,
(36:11):
because they didn't give himenough time to go through
security. And so I had to pickthem up anyways, with so he was
like, Oh, the universe, youknow, like, you don't get to
choose even though I MIT wasvery careful planning that
ticket. Guess what, I didn't getto choose that outcome. And
maybe that was a better outcome.
Maybe the kids were supposed tobe better. Oh, it was beautiful.
(36:32):
And the whole lady was. So it'slike, you know, we just have to
trust that no matter even if itgets messed up, like I said to
him, he was like, Oh, I can'tbelieve that they did this. And
that it Oh, my God, buteverything happens for a reason.
So it's going to be good. Wehave to know,
Jean (36:47):
you know, that's a that's a catchphrase. And you know,
that's, that is true. But Ithink people want some dramatic
thing attached to it. You knowwhat I'm saying? Like, oh, well,
maybe if I would have went onthat plane and would have
crashed? It doesn't have to bethat yeah, just being, you know,
one on the ride home, you got totalk to your children, right.
And you wouldn't have had thattime because they would have
been in school, if you took theother flight, you know, it can
(37:07):
just be F and what? Maybe theyremember that conversation or
maybe something, just thatmoment that you had with them.
Right, you know, so it's reallythe consciousness that goes
into, and also the captain so.
Fortune (37:18):
Right, exactly. And when something bad happens, we
have to understand that there'sa good there's a silver lining
there somewhere. You know, it'sso important this concept, I
know, we keeps driving at home,but it's so important, you know,
whether good or bad, you know,
Jean (37:35):
what's perceived as bad or what's perceived as good? You
know, right. And that's also astrength controller saying, This
is my desire. This is what Iwant the app. And so that
happened. So that's good. Areyou think, right now, because
what I wanted to happen didn'thappen. You don't want the
Creator has a bigger plan, andknows exactly what we need, when
we need it, and how we need it.
And if we can surrender thatbend,
Fortune (38:01):
then we have true freedom. Go with it. Accept it,
like you said, except that Iappreciate it. All those good
things. Yes. And I am just soexcited.
Jean (38:13):
You know, we've said this before that one of our teachers
said to us that freewill isgiving up your freewill to the
Creator. Exactly have free willto do that or not do that.
Right. It was a mind blower.
Right? Yeah. And to me, that'strue freedom. Yeah, because
you're not caught in the muckanymore, you are aligned with
something higher and morepeaceful, and amazing and
(38:36):
amazing. So I don't know ifwe've really told people about
exactly what to do with freedom.
But um, I'm hoping that we wethink about
Fortune (38:52):
once you get the finale, you know, they're all
small can be small freedoms, youknow, little different things
that you can take on to let goof that brings you back to the
rations,
Jean (39:01):
that reaction is the enemy to start even just getting that
under control, as you're freefrom what those people think or
how you respond, or you can go,Wow, no, I'm not going to be
robotic, that
Fortune (39:14):
we're so powerful.
We're so powerful we canovercome. And I have just tried
that a couple of times and seewhat happens. You're gonna go
Jean (39:23):
why is that? Go? I'm exhausted acting that way. Why
am I even that didn't even knowwho I am. Who that person I
created. I mean, like thatperson, right? I don't like
those actions of that person. Orwhen I act like that. I don't
like it. So why am I doing it?
Right? Well, because
Fortune (39:37):
you're used to doing it. That's who I am. And you
think right, you think I'm doingit here, right. And there's your
ego. Hello.
Jean (39:44):
All right. So can we agree that we have talked about
freedom and
Fortune (39:49):
yes, freedom is getting rid of all those negative
things?
Jean (39:54):
Well, yeah, it's about it's about coming to an
understanding in yourself. Andreally what makes any slave what
makes you a slave and and whatyou need to let go of in order
to embrace a new
Fortune (40:08):
beautiful. Yes, so happy. Happy Spring Happy Spring
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