November 15, 2022 • 34 mins
In times of disagreement it can be difficult to navigate through high emotions and conflicts. Learn the strategies to find what connects us, instead of focusing on what divides. Explore how separation is a barrier that creates the illusion of friction and chaos. Take the steps to integrate a core spiritual practice of human dignity and validation to change the vibration from fear to love.
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Fortune (00:04):
Welcome all to circuitry. It's time to ignite
your life.
Jean (00:08):
Join us as we explore this episode's thought provoking
topic and what it means to usthrough everyday life challenges
and practical spiritual tools.
Fortune (00:17):
So let's start sharing Hello, darling, why hello,
darling. How are you?
Unknown (00:29):
I'm really good. Me too. I'm very bouncy enough and
like the energy. Yeah, I'm
Fortune (00:35):
really excited to talk about our topic today. Yes.
Unity
Unknown (00:39):
unity. Yeah. Well, it's actually timely because we're
recording this the day after theelection. Yes. So I think
election times brings up a lotof emotions opinions. Yes. And
unfortunately, that can bethings that can divide people.
Yes, yes.
Yes, yes. And we're here to talkabout how we need to fight
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against. Yeah, fight for unity.
You and I see why you may be.
Alright, which brings me toa study that I don't know
anybody can segue from that. Buta study that freaked me out.
Okay. And it's a study done.
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It's called Making care incommon is a project of Harvard
Graduate School of Education.
All right, so, um, my interest.
All right, so I'm going to readit. It says while Americans in
the past worried a great dealabout their child marrying
someone from a different race,religion or entering a same sex
relationship. Our surveysuggests that far more Americans
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these days are concerned abouttheir child marrying someone
with opposing political views.
Jean (01:55):
Wow.
Unknown (01:57):
That's just blew my mind when I read that. I was
like,Oh, wow. Okay, so wait, wait,
this is what I'm getting fromthis. Okay. Okay. So they just
like they found a way to getaround it. It's like almost
like, oh, no, well, it's notbecause they're this or it's not
because you believe that or it'snot because whatever, it's
because you're not of thispolitical party. But within
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those political parties cansomehow sometimes harbor
prejudices or opinions orAbsolutely. So it's like a way
of like, you know, wrapping itup in a different package. But
it's still the same thing.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't carewho my child marry, as long as
they're happy. That's theirjourney. But I guess it is
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something that is relevant rightnow. You know, because there is
such a divide with this. I just,I think
I want to read the whole study.
But yeah, that's really good.
It's just not.
I don't think that it's good forus as a people.
But none of it is like that. Butbut this is all happening for a
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reason. Because the it just thepolarity keeps getting bigger
and bigger and bigger andbigger. So unfortunately, and I
don't know who said this, a fewpolitical leaders have said
this, that it's going to takesomething bad to happen to bring
us together.
Oh, yeah, that oh, that'sdefinitely you know, I mean,
look at 911 Coronavirus, allthese tragedies happened. That's
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when we joined together and wedon't care about it, then we
don't care about any of thatanymore. You know, then it's all
about just helping each other toget through it. You know, and
that's a sad thing. I mean, butyou know, if that's the
motivation that we need, Hey,bring it you know, what are you
gonna do?
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Well, you know, me, I like totry and figure out
why. Yes. Okay, as you want toget to the
end, I spent a lot of time kindof mulling this over meditate,
taking it from a spiritual apolitical science or math point
of view, trying to find like,what is what creates this, like,
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why is this a human conditionthat we do that and I don't know
if this is exactly it, but Ifound something interesting.
Okay. Robert Lauer, okay. Itwrote a book called sacred
geometry. Okay, and I'm gonnaread this so I don't get it
wrong. It sounds good. Okay, theconcept of oneness or unity,
right is literally unthinkable.
Because in order for one thingto be known to exist, to have a
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positive affirmation, you mustalso know that it is opposite by
its negation. What that means
Fortune (04:51):
is unpack that please.
Unknown (04:52):
Okay. So, as humans, we qualify or firm something right?
By knowing it's opposite,meaning, if this is hard, then
it's not soft. If it's cold,then it's not hot. If it's wet,
it's not dry. So that causesduality, which is the opposite
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of unity. Okay, so it's almost ahuman condition to say, what is
it the opposite of it that makesit that thing?
Okay. Okay. So so like ananalogy would be rare, but
that's the surface.
Okay. Within that one thingcontains all of its fractions.
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And it's, I guess, diversity.
And that's the geometry of it.
So it can have different angles,it can have different points it
could have, but it all stillconnects. Right? Right. So
that's the sacred geometry ofit no matter what your
perspective, is, it still thebottom line is still the same
goal.
Right? So it may not be hot orcold, but it's still coffee.
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Right? Exactly. So let's try andlook for the commonality. Right?
in it. Instead of, well, otherthings forming What's the
opposite, or the knot, andequality?
You know, the other thing getsinto it. I know, to quote George
Carlin, he said, puttingchampionship competition ahead
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of cooperation, say then killsit, putting competition ahead of
cooperation, kills it. Wow. Withhumanity, that's okay. Because
if we all cooperated, we would Imean, okay, Henry Ford said
coming together as a beginning,keeping together is progress.
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Working together is success. Soif we could have that
cooperation, be awesome. But wehave this mode of competition,
you know, and wanting to beright, and be better and
whatever, instead of just, youknow, embracing all the
differences and all thedifferent, you know, that would
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be a beautiful thing, wouldn'tit?
It would be and and findingthat. Okay, so So one of the
things that I think I realizedthrough all of this is that in
order to find unity, which bythe way, Unity, Unity is not
uniformity. A lot of peoplethink, well, if we're unified,
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we must all be the same. No,that's not true. We can look, we
can look different talkdifferent. sound different.
Think different beliefs.
Different. Right? Right. Right.
Right. But it's just sort oflike it's
Fortune (07:41):
having that common
Unknown (07:41):
love. Oh, yeah. But also think about the how the
connectivity, like you'retalking about how that can work
together for a common cause. Soan example that I read was The
organs in the body?
Yes. And together every day hasto be united. They have one
to keep the body alive to be alight source to keep his hell
Thank goodness. Yeah. Right.
Yes. So that's what we have kindof gotten away from sometimes is
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this common goal? Right, right.
So if we can think of the causeor a purpose, or a reason that
we can come together, which,which what we started this out
with saying that sometimes whena catastrophe happens, right,
right, right, then everythinggets put to the side. And you
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can find that common focus Yes,exactly like to help people or
people go to the streets,because they have a cause that
they all want to fight forwhatever they come together. And
that sometimes is a beautifulthing. But sometimes it's not so
beautiful, as we've seen, youknow what I mean? And I feel
like, you know, there's been somany, there's been so many
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instances of this, right?
Through our history, you know,and I think it comes down to two
things. This is what I came upwith, okay, researching, this
comes down to two things,tolerance. And human dignity.
Oh, yeah. That's, that's unity.
That's what will bring unitywhen we all can learn to raise
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our tolerance, and actually beable to see, because sometimes
we don't see it. We go, What doyou mean, I wasn't I didn't have
human dignity. But, you know,your actions are not dignified.
They were awful. Well, Ithink, you know, we we have this
little segment that we do calledHere's an idea. Yes. And one of
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the things that's a common thingis what you're talking about, is
to give that human dignity.
Right? And also to respect and Iguess, accept someone
unconditionally, right? It'shard because in that, when you
can validate somebody'sdiversity by those two points,
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right, right, right, you havecreated cohesion, without even
realizing it. And that isprobably one of the most
fundamental, basic spiritualpractices that you can do every
day. Right? Is to just be aware,be aware, every person has a
point of view, every person hasan opinion, and they should be
respected and validated for itnot be meant to conform, or be
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put down. Right. And that'ssometimes is one of the bad
things about social media. Yes,is people can hide behind them.
Right, right. Feelings are justgonna go into Okay, feelings.
I've made a list of feelingsthat separate us when we get
offended when we're disappointedwhen we get embarrassed. Yeah.
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When we get confused orstressed, then you don't act
your best self. You know what Imean? And you could say and do
things that are not nice. Yeah.
Okay. And there you go. There'sthat energy loss, he lost the
energy. But now, feelings thatcan unite us is love, hope,
freedom, pride, and even fear.
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You know what I mean? It becauselike, if you're afraid, you
know, you you want you needsomebody, I need you. I'm
scared. Right? You know, I needto I need your support. Don't be
scared. Hey, never leave. Youknow. I mean, fear is a real
thing. You know, and it works.
Both Well,separation barrier. And if
you're trying to go through thatbarrier, you're creating
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friction, right? When you'retrying when you're rubbing
against the two sides of allthese barriers, that's friction
and friction causes chaos. Yes,but chaos we've learned is an
illusion. Chaos doesn't exist.
But chaos is the, I guess thecatalyst of the fear, you're
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talking about? Disease.
Depression only knows things.
Right. Right. Alienation, right.
Right. Right. But it's not real.
It's created by this friction.
But if you can see yourself asnot rubbing against these
barriers and these things, andyou see yourself as one with
them, there is no more friction.
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Right. Right. Right. And thenthe chaos goes away.
Well, these feelings also whatthey do is they build a wall.
Yeah. You know, and the feelingsthat unite us knock them down.
Right? So that's what you'retalking about the friction,
right? I mean, it's eitheryou're either you're, you know,
making it impossible to beunited and together and you
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know, or you're opening it up,and you're going no matter what,
so what is the common thing? Youknow, well, the common things
we have that we rely on ourfamily, friends, faith, or
spirituality, you know, youknow, going to that music, art,
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anything that's creative, tobring out that the part of us
that's connected with yourhigher self, that helps you to
let go of the of the, you know,not being tolerant or being
nasty to somebody or whatever,because that connects you to the
goodness inside ofus. Those are good tools. But
I'm gonna go a little deeperfood.
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Food is another thing we use.
Yeah, those actionpoints, but I'm saying what is
the common thing about us, Tom,because we can have diversity
and all those things I can like,I like Rock You Like pop, I
subscribe to this. I like tocook this. So I don't like that
food. I like this food. So. Soyes, that's ways you can connect
with someone to share, however,but what is beyond that? If
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you're saying okay, well, I'mnow I'm telling me Tell me, I
think it is the divine spark ofdivinity and all of us.
Yes, we have to connect to that.
We all have that soul. We're alla soul. We're all. We're all
connected.
That's what connects us. And ifwe can stop looking at the
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personality, or the beliefsystem, or the
I don't know, it's like piecesin a puzzle. You took the puzzle
and threw it up in the air. Andnow we got to try to put the
pieces Yeah, but the thingis, is not by putting it
together about in a day to dayencountering everyone, every
situation yes, yeah. That youhave to look for that divine
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spark. You have to almostpractice the pause and go you
know, what, if somebody istriggering you or somebody's
making you, all of a suddenacted bring up this, you know,
intolerance in you, right,you're connected, you're totally
disconnecting. Another thingthat goes on. We're just talking
about social media is I don'tbelieve in intolerance. But
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isn't that in itselfintolerance?
Yes, yes. It certainly is. Yes,definitely. Definitely.
Do because, you know, you know,people, people try to find they
do a lot of spiritual practices,meditation, yoga, to get to that
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calm space inside of themselves.
And as a result, all thosethings are great. But like we've
been learning is going into likereally deep meditations where
you can kind of tap into thequantum experience. And in that
field, the frequencies areconnected. That is where we all
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become one. Yes, is connected inour souls. And in our
consciousness, like,yeah, it's like going to sleep
at night dreaming night and justbeing free to connect, you know,
you don't have that ego attachedto
you let go, let go of body youlet go of all of that. So, you
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know, the other part of thosepractices is, you know,
spiritual expression. I don'tknow if it was the SWAMI vaniqa
Nauvoo, if it was MaharishiMahesh Yogi, but George Harrison
constantly, which is for theforest to be trained to be
green, each tree must be green.
Yes. So for the world to bepeaceful or connected, each
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person must find them. Right.
Right. Right, right. So whenyou're looking at the other
person, and you're going, Oh, Idon't believe that or they're
wrong for this. I think the toolis not just to look right at
them. There can no not look atyourself. Start saying, You
Fortune (16:31):
know what I'm judging.
Yeah, well,
Unknown (16:33):
I'm not right. I'm not perfect. I have so much more to
learn. I am being, you know,maybe too judgmental or
flippant, or whatever the wordis, and maybe I need to work on
me before I start trying to fixyou.
Fortune (16:47):
Yes. And Winston Churchill,
Jean (16:49):
which Oh, well, you
Fortune (16:50):
know, go in there.
Listen, personal responsibility.
Listen to this. I love this. Allright, when there is no enemy
within the enemies outsidecannot hurt you. Oh, how awesome
is that? Tight is really,there's no enemy within, wow,
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the enemies outside cannot hurtyou that. So we all need to
strive for this, we need tostrive for this. Because I mean,
that just sounds so beautiful.
It's like, wow, that soundsmagical. No enemy within. Like,
I have not a mean bone in mybody. Nothing country, but
Unknown (17:32):
it's also self. Like we were just saying self
reflection, like, I'm reallyworking on me. So I don't have
anything in me that I'm inconflict with? Well, we'll never
get to that point. But you knowwhat I'm saying that I feel at
peace with myself. So I don'thave to that security and
connection to the creator, thedivine force, you know, that is
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where your certainty should be.
Right? And if you have thatfaith, certainty, belief,
whatever, right? That mindsetyou have, you know, and you can
remember it. And you canremember when you need to.
That's the key to remember itbecause like it just goes into
override, you know,that's what you're saying, I
have that certainty. So I don'thave to be afraid of anything.
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Right? And isn't that reallywhat? When we disconnect with
everyone? It's out of fear? Yes.
Yeah. Well, you're this personisn't like me, or this person
believes that, and I don't thinkI want that for the world or
from my life or from well,that's why you know, more from
my, where I practice, you know,or I praise or whatever.
Right, right. Right. And I thinkthat's why, you know,
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affirmations are getting sopopular now, because people have
to keep saying it over and overbefore you really believe it's
right. You know, and, and, youknow, having a different
perception of things, changesthings, just like one of our
listeners, yes, wrote in and wastelling us about her.
Oh, yeah, I have her letterhere. Do you want me to read a
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little? Yes, yes, yes. Okay. SoSusie, oh, good from upstate New
York. And this was one of thefirst letters we got. After our
first podcast. It was soexciting for us, because the
whole reason why we started thisis to share and to, to learn
with everyone and to kind ofconnect and this was such as
Fortune (19:17):
anybody, that's what it's
Unknown (19:18):
all about. It touched us back and it was like, Oh,
well, we're putting it out thereand it's coming back. So we were
feeling the unity we werefeeling the unit's we weren't
correct. So Suzy was kind enoughto write. And the first episode
was about gratitude. Yes, andabout expectations. If you
didn't listen to it, you shouldgo back and listen. Yes, she
said I liked the part about weas a race are only an illusion.
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Get past the negative thoughtsto arrive at magical results
because people can't possiblylive up to our expectations of
them. She said I learned this along time ago but listening to
your podcast made me realize thereverse of that is people being
constantly disappointed in me asa An individual for not living
up to their expectations. So Ijust let that go. And boy, do I
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feel better. First podcast, andyou've already changed my life
for the better. It's my firstpodcast I've ever listened to.
And I'm hooked.
Fortune (20:13):
And I was really excited. Thank you, Sue. Thank
Unknown (20:16):
you, Susie. That was like, so encouraged you. Yes. It
was humbling to hear that. Thatwas like, wow, yeah, you know,
so you gotta go.
It's just knowing theperception, ya know, is
different. Very different. It'sbeautiful. Just like, I know,
this is a whole nother podcast.
But like, we have to do apodcast because when I started
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studying about, you know,looking up about unity, yeah.
Fungi. You know, they have theyare the boss. That's it.
Mushrooms. Oh, mushrooms.
I thought you're talking aboutan organization named fungi.
Fungi? I've never heard of, orheard this business mushroom.
And is there something I candownload
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how their system is is like, youknow, 1000s and 1000s of
different kinds, but they're allconnected underground. And it's
so fascinating. So I want I wantto tell you this, I want to do a
podcast on that. Because I thinkthat really shows unity. Well,
you will teach us unity. Youknow, I'm
all about the fun guy. Andthat's another
Fortune (21:19):
episode a whole nother episode. Ya know, there's
Unknown (21:21):
so much. There's so much we watched that. I can't
remember. What was that? Thatdocumentary? Watch together?
What was that? Yeah, I can'tremember that come into my mind
right now.
But I have to figure that out.
But there was a documentary thatreally showed how the trees
communicate and protect eachother and help each other
through their root systemunderground.
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Right. Right. Right. Everything.
Yeah, it was just amazing. Like,that was like, whatever. It's
amazing. So all right. I have aquestion.
Oh, we have questions before. Goahead. No, I haven't already.
You know, I love your question.
Um, when in life, have you shownhuman dignity to someone, even
though they were triggering you?
Oh, give an example of that Ican.
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Without naming names. I no nameno names. I personally, I
personally went through asituation in my life, where I
was estranged from someone. Andthey needed my help. And I'll
just leave it at that they werein a place where they were. They
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were hurt, physically hurt,okay. And I saw it as an
opportunity to. And it wasn'tone occasion, it was over a long
period of time to help them getback on their feet. And just
kind of really felt that I wasbeing called upon to kind of
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take everything that noteverything but things that I had
learned and kind of say, Okay,well, this is a chance to walk
the walk and talk the talk andnot, and really just give that
person the human dignityregardless of anything that was
in conflict with us prior tothat moment to just kind of just
say, puftright, this is another man, I
need my help. And I'm here.
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Right. And it doesn't matterwhat they've done. Yeah. You
know,and the interesting thing was, I
got a lot of a lot of peoplethought that was a good thing.
But I also got people that wastelling me, what are you crazy,
right, right? That person didthis, this, this and this?
Right, right. Right. Right. AndI was like, I like you were
saying, it doesn't matter. I'm,I'm okay with me. Right. Nothing
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can harm me, nothing can hurtme. Right. And I have certainty
that this is the right thing todo for me for them for the
situation and actually was sucha lesson for me, and a humbling
experience to actuallyexperience that because,
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and it opens doors for so manyother things as well. Yeah, it
does. It does and gets clarityon who you are. And what you the
strength that you have. Aboutyour nature. Put your ego in the
back. Yeah. And just go for it.
Yeah, it was interesting,because at that moment, there
actually, there was no thoughtprocess. It was this moment of
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complete. Just write there wasno, there was no it wasn't a
reaction. It was an experience.
Right, right. It was justsomething organic. And it just,
it just, it got hard at certainpoints. But it just felt
absolutely. I felt in harmony,right with not just the person,
but the universe. How are you?
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Well, for me, I'm going to touchon tolerance. Okay? Because they
think that human dignity goesalong with tolerating things,
you know what I mean? So, whenyou feel like you're at your
limit, or you feel like that istriggering you and you just
don't, you don't want to haveit, you know, I mean, but you
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don't want to go about it thewrong way. Because that's within
you, you're getting triggered.
Okay, whatever they're doing,that's their issue. Okay? So I
feel like to show the thedignity, the human dignity to
the other person is to toleratewhatever is happening. And then
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at another time, talk about itwith them, not at the time, but
talk with them at another timelater, right when I'm not being
triggered, and I can really havea flowing conversation where I
can kind of take my ego out ofit, you know, and I think that
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I've been practicing that a lot.
Because it's like, when you getwhen somebody triggers you, and
you get angry, right, stop. Oh,no, no, no, no, no, because, you
know, you can say things to hurtsomebody. You can, I mean, I've
been in physical things, youknow, what I mean? Where, you
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know, you just feel like youwant to just know, knock
somebody out. I mean, yeah. And,you know, you're like, Okay, I
gotta walk away from this,because it's too overpowering
for me, you know, I won't be me,you know, the other side of me
comes out. So, to show thathuman dignity, I have to pause,
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and wait for another time when Ican discuss with that person,
how that bothers Gus, discuss itor whatever, you know, however,
you have to say it, but guesswhat, then the other person is
going to, you know, see yourside of it a little bit better.
You know what I mean? Andunderstand you, and then maybe
not go there. You know what Imean? And really understand
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where you're coming from?
Because sometimes in the heat ofthe moment, nobody, nobody hears
you don't hear each other atall, you know, and I mean, and I
feel like that's a lot with thispolitical thing. You know,
everybody just wants to saysomething mean? And it's like,
no, let's just talk about what'sgood for us.
What connects us? what dividesus, right? There's so much that
connects us. I mean, like, youknow, we were saying, you know,
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our founding fathers made apretty simple, we all have a
right to life, liberty and thepursuit of happiness. Right,
right. So why can't we just behappy? Why can't we just
celebrate the fact that youknow, like, we want to help each
other we want to help each otherwith quality it's just like you
know, you know, have music in mybackground. And to me, it's like
when you know, one note is goingto sound exactly alike. Even if
it's the same note, there may bea different Tambor, or a
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different way of playing thatnote, each instrument brings out
a different frequency orvibration. But when you put all
of those different notestogether, they make a beautiful
song or a beautiful, magicalpiece of orchestra and amazing
frequency, that can heal thatcan inspire that can, you know,
bring people to a differentpower, right, bring
Fortune (27:54):
them to a different,
Unknown (27:55):
but when we start playing, always looking for
what's wrong, and and you're notlike me are?
Yep, one more quote, MartinLuther King, Jr. said, and I
said it this way, we must learnto live together as brothers or
perish together as false. Sothat's really putting it out
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there, too. You know what Imean? Like, either we gotta get
this right. Or we're going down.
All right.
I know you love it when I bringtools to the table. Yes. All
right. So I was searching forsomething like that. And I was
having a hard time. But I foundthis, what did you find? Five
strategies? Oh, yay. Then youcan use to avoid conflict, and
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cultivate unity. So next timeyou feel like you're being next
time you feel like you'reactually being emotionally
triggered, whether it's socialmedia, or you're in defense
attack mode, or Yes, yes. Youknow, it's sort of like an
elongated practice and pausekind of a thing. Okay. Okay. I
love it. Alright, so the firststrategy is, get neutral before
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you respond, which is kind ofwhat you were saying, right?
Wait until you can step back andthen have a discussion instead
of an argument,
Jean (29:08):
right. Number two, number two,
Unknown (29:14):
see the person you're responding to, has a divine
spark of soul, rather than theirhuman personality. Right. Right.
Right. And that's hardsometimes, but that's good. It's
a good tool. Like you just lookand see like a little halo over
there. Well, you know, visualhelps.
It's yeah. Okay. Strategy three,ask yourself. Do you want others
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to hear you? Or do you want themto listen to what you have to
say? Oh, okay. So someone who'slistening, yes, is responding
with human dignity and love,right? Someone who's just here
and yeah, it's just listening.
It's just a response. Yes, it'sa totally different so
communicating with love invitesothers to listen to what you
have to say if they Listen thanthey've heard you at a deeper
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level, which creates theopening, where true connections,
communication and transformationbecame man.
Amen. Amen. Number four, we havefour.
Consider whether you areadvocating for something you
believe in, or right, juststanding against something that
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you don't believe in.
So it's different. Yes. A bigdifference. Yeah.
In today's social and politicalenvironment, many people feel
very strongly about something,they'll take a stand against
something, they'll resist it.
That's a strong buzzword. Sothat's kind of back to what we
were saying is, you can say, I'magainst intolerance, but by
being against it, and beingintolerant to intolerant, you're
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intolerant. Right?
Exactly. Exactly. Doesn't makesense. Doesn't make sense. So
instead of what you're against,what are you 44? Right? What do
you for? We got to change that.
Okay. Five, be willing topractice these strategies every
day with every one in everycircumstance, right? Right.
Because when people withoutexception,
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right, because some people yougo, Oh, I can, I can bully them,
or I can say whatever to them,or whatever. But no, it's
everybody can use it every time.
Right? Everybody can single timeready to catch. I love
everybody. And we loveeverybody.
Yes, we do. I do. So, you know,one, one thing, I heard somebody
speaking about this, and I can'tfind it in my notes. So I'm
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gonna kind of go with it. Gowith it here. But they, they
kind of brought up this reallyinteresting analogy. When it's
your child, right? Sometimeswe'll even defend our child,
even when they're wrong.
Fortune (31:41):
Oh, yes, yes, yes. Is it okay, baby,
Unknown (31:43):
but that's the love.
It's the alignment, we feelright? Unity with them. Because
guess why? We know for a factthat they're a part of us.
I get where you're going. I getwhere you're going. We really
have to feel like everyone is apart of us. Yes, yes. Yes, yes.
And we don't have that.
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We don't have that. Well, we Ithink people are working towards
it.
You know, did you ever meetsomebody and you're like, why?
Fuck, I knew this personforever. You know what I mean?
So you do love those moments?
Yeah, you do. You do know thatperson, that person is a part of
you. And the person is a part ofyour solution. So that's why,
you know, if somebody I don'tknow, if I touch somebody, I
feel like oh, wow, that helps.
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Not just me, not just her. Buteveryone, you know, because now
we have some more good positivevibes out there. And, and that's
what you know, that's what it'sall about. That's what it's all
about.
Let's come together. People cometogether. Come right now. We are
one but we are not the same. Weget to carry each other. carry
each other. Yes, we are one.
Yes. So can we agree for themoment that we understand the
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concept of unity? Yes, we doagree. We do agree. All right.
Are we going to try to be moreunified? Yes, I am. Definitely.
This was like why? All right.
Well, that's awesome. All right.
So one thing I'm gonna say hereis that we do include a lot of
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these notes and extra content.
Oh, yeah. We're gonna do circleback. we circle back after this.
And we we have that available onour subscription page. Yes.
Yeah. So if anybody is lovingit,
Fortune (33:26):
podcast, podcast, companion content. Yes.
Unknown (33:30):
There's a lot of good stuff in there. There's good
stuff for kids. Yes, there'sgood stuff for adults. There's
activities or some of thesethese strategies to go about. So
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Join us as we explore this episode's thought provoking
topic and what it means to usthrough everyday life challenges
and practical spiritual tools.
Fortune (00:17):
So let's start sharing Hello, darling, why hello,
darling. How are you?
Unknown (00:29):
I'm really good. Me too. I'm very bouncy enough and
like the energy. Yeah, I'm
Fortune (00:35):
really excited to talk about our topic today. Yes.
Unity
Unknown (00:39):
unity. Yeah. Well, it's actually timely because we're
recording this the day after theelection. Yes. So I think
election times brings up a lotof emotions opinions. Yes. And
unfortunately, that can bethings that can divide people.
Yes, yes.
Yes, yes. And we're here to talkabout how we need to fight
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against. Yeah, fight for unity.
You and I see why you may be.
Alright, which brings me toa study that I don't know
anybody can segue from that. Buta study that freaked me out.
Okay. And it's a study done.
(01:24):
It's called Making care incommon is a project of Harvard
Graduate School of Education.
All right, so, um, my interest.
All right, so I'm going to readit. It says while Americans in
the past worried a great dealabout their child marrying
someone from a different race,religion or entering a same sex
relationship. Our surveysuggests that far more Americans
(01:49):
these days are concerned abouttheir child marrying someone
with opposing political views.
Jean (01:55):
Wow.
Unknown (01:57):
That's just blew my mind when I read that. I was
like,Oh, wow. Okay, so wait, wait,
this is what I'm getting fromthis. Okay. Okay. So they just
like they found a way to getaround it. It's like almost
like, oh, no, well, it's notbecause they're this or it's not
because you believe that or it'snot because whatever, it's
because you're not of thispolitical party. But within
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those political parties cansomehow sometimes harbor
prejudices or opinions orAbsolutely. So it's like a way
of like, you know, wrapping itup in a different package. But
it's still the same thing.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't carewho my child marry, as long as
they're happy. That's theirjourney. But I guess it is
(02:43):
something that is relevant rightnow. You know, because there is
such a divide with this. I just,I think
I want to read the whole study.
But yeah, that's really good.
It's just not.
I don't think that it's good forus as a people.
But none of it is like that. Butbut this is all happening for a
(03:03):
reason. Because the it just thepolarity keeps getting bigger
and bigger and bigger andbigger. So unfortunately, and I
don't know who said this, a fewpolitical leaders have said
this, that it's going to takesomething bad to happen to bring
us together.
Oh, yeah, that oh, that'sdefinitely you know, I mean,
look at 911 Coronavirus, allthese tragedies happened. That's
(03:28):
when we joined together and wedon't care about it, then we
don't care about any of thatanymore. You know, then it's all
about just helping each other toget through it. You know, and
that's a sad thing. I mean, butyou know, if that's the
motivation that we need, Hey,bring it you know, what are you
gonna do?
(03:48):
Well, you know, me, I like totry and figure out
why. Yes. Okay, as you want toget to the
end, I spent a lot of time kindof mulling this over meditate,
taking it from a spiritual apolitical science or math point
of view, trying to find like,what is what creates this, like,
(04:11):
why is this a human conditionthat we do that and I don't know
if this is exactly it, but Ifound something interesting.
Okay. Robert Lauer, okay. Itwrote a book called sacred
geometry. Okay, and I'm gonnaread this so I don't get it
wrong. It sounds good. Okay, theconcept of oneness or unity,
right is literally unthinkable.
Because in order for one thingto be known to exist, to have a
(04:37):
positive affirmation, you mustalso know that it is opposite by
its negation. What that means
Fortune (04:51):
is unpack that please.
Unknown (04:52):
Okay. So, as humans, we qualify or firm something right?
By knowing it's opposite,meaning, if this is hard, then
it's not soft. If it's cold,then it's not hot. If it's wet,
it's not dry. So that causesduality, which is the opposite
(05:17):
of unity. Okay, so it's almost ahuman condition to say, what is
it the opposite of it that makesit that thing?
Okay. Okay. So so like ananalogy would be rare, but
that's the surface.
Okay. Within that one thingcontains all of its fractions.
(05:38):
And it's, I guess, diversity.
And that's the geometry of it.
So it can have different angles,it can have different points it
could have, but it all stillconnects. Right? Right. So
that's the sacred geometry ofit no matter what your
perspective, is, it still thebottom line is still the same
goal.
Right? So it may not be hot orcold, but it's still coffee.
(06:01):
Right? Exactly. So let's try andlook for the commonality. Right?
in it. Instead of, well, otherthings forming What's the
opposite, or the knot, andequality?
You know, the other thing getsinto it. I know, to quote George
Carlin, he said, puttingchampionship competition ahead
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of cooperation, say then killsit, putting competition ahead of
cooperation, kills it. Wow. Withhumanity, that's okay. Because
if we all cooperated, we would Imean, okay, Henry Ford said
coming together as a beginning,keeping together is progress.
(06:46):
Working together is success. Soif we could have that
cooperation, be awesome. But wehave this mode of competition,
you know, and wanting to beright, and be better and
whatever, instead of just, youknow, embracing all the
differences and all thedifferent, you know, that would
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be a beautiful thing, wouldn'tit?
It would be and and findingthat. Okay, so So one of the
things that I think I realizedthrough all of this is that in
order to find unity, which bythe way, Unity, Unity is not
uniformity. A lot of peoplethink, well, if we're unified,
(07:29):
we must all be the same. No,that's not true. We can look, we
can look different talkdifferent. sound different.
Think different beliefs.
Different. Right? Right. Right.
Right. But it's just sort oflike it's
Fortune (07:41):
having that common
Unknown (07:41):
love. Oh, yeah. But also think about the how the
connectivity, like you'retalking about how that can work
together for a common cause. Soan example that I read was The
organs in the body?
Yes. And together every day hasto be united. They have one
to keep the body alive to be alight source to keep his hell
Thank goodness. Yeah. Right.
Yes. So that's what we have kindof gotten away from sometimes is
(08:05):
this common goal? Right, right.
So if we can think of the causeor a purpose, or a reason that
we can come together, which,which what we started this out
with saying that sometimes whena catastrophe happens, right,
right, right, then everythinggets put to the side. And you
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can find that common focus Yes,exactly like to help people or
people go to the streets,because they have a cause that
they all want to fight forwhatever they come together. And
that sometimes is a beautifulthing. But sometimes it's not so
beautiful, as we've seen, youknow what I mean? And I feel
like, you know, there's been somany, there's been so many
(08:49):
instances of this, right?
Through our history, you know,and I think it comes down to two
things. This is what I came upwith, okay, researching, this
comes down to two things,tolerance. And human dignity.
Oh, yeah. That's, that's unity.
That's what will bring unitywhen we all can learn to raise
(09:13):
our tolerance, and actually beable to see, because sometimes
we don't see it. We go, What doyou mean, I wasn't I didn't have
human dignity. But, you know,your actions are not dignified.
They were awful. Well, Ithink, you know, we we have this
little segment that we do calledHere's an idea. Yes. And one of
(09:37):
the things that's a common thingis what you're talking about, is
to give that human dignity.
Right? And also to respect and Iguess, accept someone
unconditionally, right? It'shard because in that, when you
can validate somebody'sdiversity by those two points,
(10:01):
right, right, right, you havecreated cohesion, without even
realizing it. And that isprobably one of the most
fundamental, basic spiritualpractices that you can do every
day. Right? Is to just be aware,be aware, every person has a
point of view, every person hasan opinion, and they should be
respected and validated for itnot be meant to conform, or be
(10:26):
put down. Right. And that'ssometimes is one of the bad
things about social media. Yes,is people can hide behind them.
Right, right. Feelings are justgonna go into Okay, feelings.
I've made a list of feelingsthat separate us when we get
offended when we're disappointedwhen we get embarrassed. Yeah.
(10:47):
When we get confused orstressed, then you don't act
your best self. You know what Imean? And you could say and do
things that are not nice. Yeah.
Okay. And there you go. There'sthat energy loss, he lost the
energy. But now, feelings thatcan unite us is love, hope,
freedom, pride, and even fear.
(11:12):
You know what I mean? It becauselike, if you're afraid, you
know, you you want you needsomebody, I need you. I'm
scared. Right? You know, I needto I need your support. Don't be
scared. Hey, never leave. Youknow. I mean, fear is a real
thing. You know, and it works.
Both Well,separation barrier. And if
you're trying to go through thatbarrier, you're creating
(11:33):
friction, right? When you'retrying when you're rubbing
against the two sides of allthese barriers, that's friction
and friction causes chaos. Yes,but chaos we've learned is an
illusion. Chaos doesn't exist.
But chaos is the, I guess thecatalyst of the fear, you're
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talking about? Disease.
Depression only knows things.
Right. Right. Alienation, right.
Right. Right. But it's not real.
It's created by this friction.
But if you can see yourself asnot rubbing against these
barriers and these things, andyou see yourself as one with
them, there is no more friction.
(12:14):
Right. Right. Right. And thenthe chaos goes away.
Well, these feelings also whatthey do is they build a wall.
Yeah. You know, and the feelingsthat unite us knock them down.
Right? So that's what you'retalking about the friction,
right? I mean, it's eitheryou're either you're, you know,
making it impossible to beunited and together and you
(12:36):
know, or you're opening it up,and you're going no matter what,
so what is the common thing? Youknow, well, the common things
we have that we rely on ourfamily, friends, faith, or
spirituality, you know, youknow, going to that music, art,
(12:59):
anything that's creative, tobring out that the part of us
that's connected with yourhigher self, that helps you to
let go of the of the, you know,not being tolerant or being
nasty to somebody or whatever,because that connects you to the
goodness inside ofus. Those are good tools. But
I'm gonna go a little deeperfood.
(13:22):
Food is another thing we use.
Yeah, those actionpoints, but I'm saying what is
the common thing about us, Tom,because we can have diversity
and all those things I can like,I like Rock You Like pop, I
subscribe to this. I like tocook this. So I don't like that
food. I like this food. So. Soyes, that's ways you can connect
with someone to share, however,but what is beyond that? If
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you're saying okay, well, I'mnow I'm telling me Tell me, I
think it is the divine spark ofdivinity and all of us.
Yes, we have to connect to that.
We all have that soul. We're alla soul. We're all. We're all
connected.
That's what connects us. And ifwe can stop looking at the
(14:04):
personality, or the beliefsystem, or the
I don't know, it's like piecesin a puzzle. You took the puzzle
and threw it up in the air. Andnow we got to try to put the
pieces Yeah, but the thingis, is not by putting it
together about in a day to dayencountering everyone, every
situation yes, yeah. That youhave to look for that divine
(14:28):
spark. You have to almostpractice the pause and go you
know, what, if somebody istriggering you or somebody's
making you, all of a suddenacted bring up this, you know,
intolerance in you, right,you're connected, you're totally
disconnecting. Another thingthat goes on. We're just talking
about social media is I don'tbelieve in intolerance. But
(14:48):
isn't that in itselfintolerance?
Yes, yes. It certainly is. Yes,definitely. Definitely.
Do because, you know, you know,people, people try to find they
do a lot of spiritual practices,meditation, yoga, to get to that
(15:09):
calm space inside of themselves.
And as a result, all thosethings are great. But like we've
been learning is going into likereally deep meditations where
you can kind of tap into thequantum experience. And in that
field, the frequencies areconnected. That is where we all
(15:29):
become one. Yes, is connected inour souls. And in our
consciousness, like,yeah, it's like going to sleep
at night dreaming night and justbeing free to connect, you know,
you don't have that ego attachedto
you let go, let go of body youlet go of all of that. So, you
(15:51):
know, the other part of thosepractices is, you know,
spiritual expression. I don'tknow if it was the SWAMI vaniqa
Nauvoo, if it was MaharishiMahesh Yogi, but George Harrison
constantly, which is for theforest to be trained to be
green, each tree must be green.
Yes. So for the world to bepeaceful or connected, each
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person must find them. Right.
Right. Right, right. So whenyou're looking at the other
person, and you're going, Oh, Idon't believe that or they're
wrong for this. I think the toolis not just to look right at
them. There can no not look atyourself. Start saying, You
Fortune (16:31):
know what I'm judging.
Yeah, well,
Unknown (16:33):
I'm not right. I'm not perfect. I have so much more to
learn. I am being, you know,maybe too judgmental or
flippant, or whatever the wordis, and maybe I need to work on
me before I start trying to fixyou.
Fortune (16:47):
Yes. And Winston Churchill,
Jean (16:49):
which Oh, well, you
Fortune (16:50):
know, go in there.
Listen, personal responsibility.
Listen to this. I love this. Allright, when there is no enemy
within the enemies outsidecannot hurt you. Oh, how awesome
is that? Tight is really,there's no enemy within, wow,
(17:10):
the enemies outside cannot hurtyou that. So we all need to
strive for this, we need tostrive for this. Because I mean,
that just sounds so beautiful.
It's like, wow, that soundsmagical. No enemy within. Like,
I have not a mean bone in mybody. Nothing country, but
Unknown (17:32):
it's also self. Like we were just saying self
reflection, like, I'm reallyworking on me. So I don't have
anything in me that I'm inconflict with? Well, we'll never
get to that point. But you knowwhat I'm saying that I feel at
peace with myself. So I don'thave to that security and
connection to the creator, thedivine force, you know, that is
(17:55):
where your certainty should be.
Right? And if you have thatfaith, certainty, belief,
whatever, right? That mindsetyou have, you know, and you can
remember it. And you canremember when you need to.
That's the key to remember itbecause like it just goes into
override, you know,that's what you're saying, I
have that certainty. So I don'thave to be afraid of anything.
(18:15):
Right? And isn't that reallywhat? When we disconnect with
everyone? It's out of fear? Yes.
Yeah. Well, you're this personisn't like me, or this person
believes that, and I don't thinkI want that for the world or
from my life or from well,that's why you know, more from
my, where I practice, you know,or I praise or whatever.
Right, right. Right. And I thinkthat's why, you know,
(18:37):
affirmations are getting sopopular now, because people have
to keep saying it over and overbefore you really believe it's
right. You know, and, and, youknow, having a different
perception of things, changesthings, just like one of our
listeners, yes, wrote in and wastelling us about her.
Oh, yeah, I have her letterhere. Do you want me to read a
(18:58):
little? Yes, yes, yes. Okay. SoSusie, oh, good from upstate New
York. And this was one of thefirst letters we got. After our
first podcast. It was soexciting for us, because the
whole reason why we started thisis to share and to, to learn
with everyone and to kind ofconnect and this was such as
Fortune (19:17):
anybody, that's what it's
Unknown (19:18):
all about. It touched us back and it was like, Oh,
well, we're putting it out thereand it's coming back. So we were
feeling the unity we werefeeling the unit's we weren't
correct. So Suzy was kind enoughto write. And the first episode
was about gratitude. Yes, andabout expectations. If you
didn't listen to it, you shouldgo back and listen. Yes, she
said I liked the part about weas a race are only an illusion.
(19:42):
Get past the negative thoughtsto arrive at magical results
because people can't possiblylive up to our expectations of
them. She said I learned this along time ago but listening to
your podcast made me realize thereverse of that is people being
constantly disappointed in me asa An individual for not living
up to their expectations. So Ijust let that go. And boy, do I
(20:05):
feel better. First podcast, andyou've already changed my life
for the better. It's my firstpodcast I've ever listened to.
And I'm hooked.
Fortune (20:13):
And I was really excited. Thank you, Sue. Thank
Unknown (20:16):
you, Susie. That was like, so encouraged you. Yes. It
was humbling to hear that. Thatwas like, wow, yeah, you know,
so you gotta go.
It's just knowing theperception, ya know, is
different. Very different. It'sbeautiful. Just like, I know,
this is a whole nother podcast.
But like, we have to do apodcast because when I started
(20:37):
studying about, you know,looking up about unity, yeah.
Fungi. You know, they have theyare the boss. That's it.
Mushrooms. Oh, mushrooms.
I thought you're talking aboutan organization named fungi.
Fungi? I've never heard of, orheard this business mushroom.
And is there something I candownload
(20:58):
how their system is is like, youknow, 1000s and 1000s of
different kinds, but they're allconnected underground. And it's
so fascinating. So I want I wantto tell you this, I want to do a
podcast on that. Because I thinkthat really shows unity. Well,
you will teach us unity. Youknow, I'm
all about the fun guy. Andthat's another
Fortune (21:19):
episode a whole nother episode. Ya know, there's
Unknown (21:21):
so much. There's so much we watched that. I can't
remember. What was that? Thatdocumentary? Watch together?
What was that? Yeah, I can'tremember that come into my mind
right now.
But I have to figure that out.
But there was a documentary thatreally showed how the trees
communicate and protect eachother and help each other
through their root systemunderground.
(21:41):
Right. Right. Right. Everything.
Yeah, it was just amazing. Like,that was like, whatever. It's
amazing. So all right. I have aquestion.
Oh, we have questions before. Goahead. No, I haven't already.
You know, I love your question.
Um, when in life, have you shownhuman dignity to someone, even
though they were triggering you?
Oh, give an example of that Ican.
(22:03):
Without naming names. I no nameno names. I personally, I
personally went through asituation in my life, where I
was estranged from someone. Andthey needed my help. And I'll
just leave it at that they werein a place where they were. They
(22:24):
were hurt, physically hurt,okay. And I saw it as an
opportunity to. And it wasn'tone occasion, it was over a long
period of time to help them getback on their feet. And just
kind of really felt that I wasbeing called upon to kind of
(22:45):
take everything that noteverything but things that I had
learned and kind of say, Okay,well, this is a chance to walk
the walk and talk the talk andnot, and really just give that
person the human dignityregardless of anything that was
in conflict with us prior tothat moment to just kind of just
say, puftright, this is another man, I
need my help. And I'm here.
(23:06):
Right. And it doesn't matterwhat they've done. Yeah. You
know,and the interesting thing was, I
got a lot of a lot of peoplethought that was a good thing.
But I also got people that wastelling me, what are you crazy,
right, right? That person didthis, this, this and this?
Right, right. Right. Right. AndI was like, I like you were
saying, it doesn't matter. I'm,I'm okay with me. Right. Nothing
(23:28):
can harm me, nothing can hurtme. Right. And I have certainty
that this is the right thing todo for me for them for the
situation and actually was sucha lesson for me, and a humbling
experience to actuallyexperience that because,
(23:49):
and it opens doors for so manyother things as well. Yeah, it
does. It does and gets clarityon who you are. And what you the
strength that you have. Aboutyour nature. Put your ego in the
back. Yeah. And just go for it.
Yeah, it was interesting,because at that moment, there
actually, there was no thoughtprocess. It was this moment of
(24:10):
complete. Just write there wasno, there was no it wasn't a
reaction. It was an experience.
Right, right. It was justsomething organic. And it just,
it just, it got hard at certainpoints. But it just felt
absolutely. I felt in harmony,right with not just the person,
but the universe. How are you?
(24:33):
Well, for me, I'm going to touchon tolerance. Okay? Because they
think that human dignity goesalong with tolerating things,
you know what I mean? So, whenyou feel like you're at your
limit, or you feel like that istriggering you and you just
don't, you don't want to haveit, you know, I mean, but you
(24:59):
don't want to go about it thewrong way. Because that's within
you, you're getting triggered.
Okay, whatever they're doing,that's their issue. Okay? So I
feel like to show the thedignity, the human dignity to
the other person is to toleratewhatever is happening. And then
(25:19):
at another time, talk about itwith them, not at the time, but
talk with them at another timelater, right when I'm not being
triggered, and I can really havea flowing conversation where I
can kind of take my ego out ofit, you know, and I think that
(25:39):
I've been practicing that a lot.
Because it's like, when you getwhen somebody triggers you, and
you get angry, right, stop. Oh,no, no, no, no, no, because, you
know, you can say things to hurtsomebody. You can, I mean, I've
been in physical things, youknow, what I mean? Where, you
(26:01):
know, you just feel like youwant to just know, knock
somebody out. I mean, yeah. And,you know, you're like, Okay, I
gotta walk away from this,because it's too overpowering
for me, you know, I won't be me,you know, the other side of me
comes out. So, to show thathuman dignity, I have to pause,
(26:23):
and wait for another time when Ican discuss with that person,
how that bothers Gus, discuss itor whatever, you know, however,
you have to say it, but guesswhat, then the other person is
going to, you know, see yourside of it a little bit better.
You know what I mean? Andunderstand you, and then maybe
not go there. You know what Imean? And really understand
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where you're coming from?
Because sometimes in the heat ofthe moment, nobody, nobody hears
you don't hear each other atall, you know, and I mean, and I
feel like that's a lot with thispolitical thing. You know,
everybody just wants to saysomething mean? And it's like,
no, let's just talk about what'sgood for us.
What connects us? what dividesus, right? There's so much that
connects us. I mean, like, youknow, we were saying, you know,
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our founding fathers made apretty simple, we all have a
right to life, liberty and thepursuit of happiness. Right,
right. So why can't we just behappy? Why can't we just
celebrate the fact that youknow, like, we want to help each
other we want to help each otherwith quality it's just like you
know, you know, have music in mybackground. And to me, it's like
when you know, one note is goingto sound exactly alike. Even if
it's the same note, there may bea different Tambor, or a
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different way of playing thatnote, each instrument brings out
a different frequency orvibration. But when you put all
of those different notestogether, they make a beautiful
song or a beautiful, magicalpiece of orchestra and amazing
frequency, that can heal thatcan inspire that can, you know,
bring people to a differentpower, right, bring
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them to a different,
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but when we start playing, always looking for
what's wrong, and and you're notlike me are?
Yep, one more quote, MartinLuther King, Jr. said, and I
said it this way, we must learnto live together as brothers or
perish together as false. Sothat's really putting it out
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there, too. You know what Imean? Like, either we gotta get
this right. Or we're going down.
All right.
I know you love it when I bringtools to the table. Yes. All
right. So I was searching forsomething like that. And I was
having a hard time. But I foundthis, what did you find? Five
strategies? Oh, yay. Then youcan use to avoid conflict, and
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cultivate unity. So next timeyou feel like you're being next
time you feel like you'reactually being emotionally
triggered, whether it's socialmedia, or you're in defense
attack mode, or Yes, yes. Youknow, it's sort of like an
elongated practice and pausekind of a thing. Okay. Okay. I
love it. Alright, so the firststrategy is, get neutral before
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you respond, which is kind ofwhat you were saying, right?
Wait until you can step back andthen have a discussion instead
of an argument,
Jean (29:08):
right. Number two, number two,
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see the person you're responding to, has a divine
spark of soul, rather than theirhuman personality. Right. Right.
Right. And that's hardsometimes, but that's good. It's
a good tool. Like you just lookand see like a little halo over
there. Well, you know, visualhelps.
It's yeah. Okay. Strategy three,ask yourself. Do you want others
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to hear you? Or do you want themto listen to what you have to
say? Oh, okay. So someone who'slistening, yes, is responding
with human dignity and love,right? Someone who's just here
and yeah, it's just listening.
It's just a response. Yes, it'sa totally different so
communicating with love invitesothers to listen to what you
have to say if they Listen thanthey've heard you at a deeper
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level, which creates theopening, where true connections,
communication and transformationbecame man.
Amen. Amen. Number four, we havefour.
Consider whether you areadvocating for something you
believe in, or right, juststanding against something that
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you don't believe in.
So it's different. Yes. A bigdifference. Yeah.
In today's social and politicalenvironment, many people feel
very strongly about something,they'll take a stand against
something, they'll resist it.
That's a strong buzzword. Sothat's kind of back to what we
were saying is, you can say, I'magainst intolerance, but by
being against it, and beingintolerant to intolerant, you're
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intolerant. Right?
Exactly. Exactly. Doesn't makesense. Doesn't make sense. So
instead of what you're against,what are you 44? Right? What do
you for? We got to change that.
Okay. Five, be willing topractice these strategies every
day with every one in everycircumstance, right? Right.
Because when people withoutexception,
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right, because some people yougo, Oh, I can, I can bully them,
or I can say whatever to them,or whatever. But no, it's
everybody can use it every time.
Right? Everybody can single timeready to catch. I love
everybody. And we loveeverybody.
Yes, we do. I do. So, you know,one, one thing, I heard somebody
speaking about this, and I can'tfind it in my notes. So I'm
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gonna kind of go with it. Gowith it here. But they, they
kind of brought up this reallyinteresting analogy. When it's
your child, right? Sometimeswe'll even defend our child,
even when they're wrong.
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Oh, yes, yes, yes. Is it okay, baby,
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but that's the love.
It's the alignment, we feelright? Unity with them. Because
guess why? We know for a factthat they're a part of us.
I get where you're going. I getwhere you're going. We really
have to feel like everyone is apart of us. Yes, yes. Yes, yes.
And we don't have that.
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We don't have that. Well, we Ithink people are working towards
it.
You know, did you ever meetsomebody and you're like, why?
Fuck, I knew this personforever. You know what I mean?
So you do love those moments?
Yeah, you do. You do know thatperson, that person is a part of
you. And the person is a part ofyour solution. So that's why,
you know, if somebody I don'tknow, if I touch somebody, I
feel like oh, wow, that helps.
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Not just me, not just her. Buteveryone, you know, because now
we have some more good positivevibes out there. And, and that's
what you know, that's what it'sall about. That's what it's all
about.
Let's come together. People cometogether. Come right now. We are
one but we are not the same. Weget to carry each other. carry
each other. Yes, we are one.
Yes. So can we agree for themoment that we understand the
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concept of unity? Yes, we doagree. We do agree. All right.
Are we going to try to be moreunified? Yes, I am. Definitely.
This was like why? All right.
Well, that's awesome. All right.
So one thing I'm gonna say hereis that we do include a lot of
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these notes and extra content.
Oh, yeah. We're gonna do circleback. we circle back after this.
And we we have that available onour subscription page. Yes.
Yeah. So if anybody is lovingit,
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podcast, podcast, companion content. Yes.
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There's a lot of good stuff in there. There's good
stuff for kids. Yes, there'sgood stuff for adults. There's
activities or some of thesethese strategies to go about. So
yes, check it out. All right.
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