December 19, 2024 • 57 mins
Renee Merkle, the visionary behind Light Heals, graces our latest episode with her profound insights into the realms of the metaphysical and beyond. As a trance channel, quantum mentor, and new Earth leader, Renee opens the door to an exhilarating discussion on aliens, star seeds, and the Galactic Federation.
Renee's journey from childhood encounters with spirits to embracing her psychic lineage is nothing short of inspiring. She shares poignant memories of her Cherokee and Pawnee heritage, her early terrifying experiences with spiritual phenomena, and the invaluable guidance of her twin brother, who passed away as an infant. These vivid stories paint a picture of the triumphs and trials of growing up with psychic gifts and underscore the importance of familial and spiritual connections in navigating such a unique path. Rennee's ability to channel energies and historical figures serves as a testament to her growth and dedication to the spiritual evolution of herself and others.
Through our exploration of consciousness, we question societal norms around money and examine the shift towards 5D awareness. Our discussions challenge the myths of safety and meritocracy, urging listeners to see money as a tool for creation and generosity, rather than an evil. Together, we embark on this transformative journey, encouraging a return to authenticity and an awakening to new possibilities in our lives.
To learn more about Renee or to work with her directly:
Visit: www.thelightheals.com
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Lauren (00:01):
Hello pals, in this episode we talk to Renny Merkel,
founder of the Light Heels.
She is a trance channel, aquantum mentor and a new Earth
leader.
She's real cool.
This is part one of amulti-part series.
Frank (00:18):
Sure is.
Lauren (00:19):
I am Lauren Leon.
Frank (00:21):
And I am Frank.
Lauren (00:22):
We are a married couple learning how to develop our own
intuition, and this is episode56 of Claire Voyaging To the
moon.
Wayfeather Media presentsClaire Voyaging.
Frank (00:53):
Let's do it, hey guys we're going for it today.
Lauren (00:54):
We're doing it, we are living for it right now.
What an episode we have for youwe're coming in hot.
Frank (01:01):
You're not ready, I'm not ready.
Lauren (01:03):
The pan's hot.
The skillet is sizzling.
Frank (01:07):
It's skilleting, skeletting.
And we are also sizzling, we'rehot, yeah, yeah.
Lauren (01:17):
Good evening, good afternoon All of those.
Frank (01:21):
In that order.
Lauren (01:22):
Yeah, we've got a good one, you know.
But first, frank, we got alittle.
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Frank (01:34):
Really.
Lauren (01:34):
Effie.
Frank (01:35):
Effie.
Lauren (01:36):
Effie joined us on Buy Me a Coffee, welcome.
She caught the button right.
I did it.
Frank (01:44):
Amazing Effie.
Thank you so much.
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That's right, we have stuff to give you.
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We got stuff.
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Lauren (02:12):
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Oh, that's right, we don't get notified on Spotify.
No, well, you know what If theydo it?
Hey, go leave a comment on anySpotify episode, send a
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Lauren (02:28):
Yeah, send us an email clearvoyagingpodcasts at
gmailcom and we will send itaway.
We've got some fun stuff.
Frank (02:36):
I like it.
Lauren (02:37):
Yeah.
Frank (02:37):
You like it.
Lauren (02:38):
Also, I have a little news guys.
Frank (02:48):
We are starting to fundraise for a documentary, a
clairvoyaging documentary.
Lauren (02:51):
The meetings are underway, yeah people are lined
up, the discussions arehappening.
So we got a 501 c3 statusthrough a company called
fractured atlas and that meansthat your donation is tax
deductible.
Guys, it's the end of the yearand sometimes getting getting
(03:14):
your funds out the door meansyou have less less taxable
income.
Frank (03:21):
That's a little fun fact for you really interesting,
lauren, I did not expect such ashell and yet I you know I'm
appreciative of this one becauseit's going to something good
I'm just trying to tell peoplethat if they're like, oh, I made
too much money this year, Igotta put it somewhere.
The classic problem give it tolauren, could sell a catch, a
ketchup popsicle to a womanwearing white gloves.
Lauren (03:43):
That's from Tommy what?
Oh, I like it.
Frank (03:46):
Yeah.
Lauren (03:47):
But could I?
Frank (03:48):
am I a salesperson.
You just did.
Lauren (03:51):
Okay, Thank you for.
Thank you for that.
Frank (03:52):
Look at her.
Thank you for pumping me up.
She's glowing, I'm confident.
Lauren (03:56):
Sales manager of the year, so I you know I can sell
things that I'm passionate aboutand I'm really excited about
this documentary.
We're going to put a link toour fundraising page in the show
notes, so hop on over there ifyou want to make a tax
deductible donation to theClaire Voyaging documentary.
Frank (04:15):
Let me make one more note here.
That's not on our list of notes, but we are also going to be
coming out, probably in the nextcouple of weeks, with an
updated clairvoyaging website.
It's going to be more of aresource for people who need
that for themselves or for theirchildren and age-appropriate
content.
We want to be able to guide theway for a new generation of
(04:37):
intuitive people.
So coming up soon.
Lauren (04:40):
Conscious people, yeah, awakened souls.
Frank (04:49):
So, yeah, some fun things to look forward to.
Lauren (04:50):
It not ready yet, but yeah it'll be ready it'll be
ready soon, and so this is justmore content to come, including
a large bit of content in theform of documentary yeah, the
first of many, I I believe.
Frank (05:03):
Yeah, but don't quote me.
Lauren (05:04):
Yeah, yeah, we don't know.
Frank (05:05):
Let's move on.
Lauren (05:06):
Uh, thank you for being here with us, and with that,
let's, let's get into the Rennyconversation.
Frank (05:12):
We got to talk about Renny.
Lauren (05:14):
Yeah, she's, she, she's a real deal.
She's very cool.
Frank (05:19):
Team Voyagers.
This voyagers, this is ourfirst dip of the toe into the
alien conversation, which, nowthat I think about it, is quite
timely.
With what's going on in newjersey and all that stuff, I
don't know how this is going toturn out.
Maybe that statement won't agewell, but uh, this conversation
we had will.
(05:40):
It's very cool.
If you've ever been curiousabout star seeds or if you've
heard the galactic federation asa term, stay tuned, because
this is the one and I just wantto point out if you've ever been
like very skeptical of thesethings, so have I.
It sounds like it's straightout of star trek.
(06:00):
It doesn't sound believable atfirst.
I honestly like it all soundsreally great and then you throw
in like the term galacticfederation and I'm like okay,
stop.
But you know what?
I'm a convert, and renny did itfor me yeah that's a.
It's kind of a big deal and itmakes a lot of sense.
(06:20):
So, um, dude, dudes, jump in.
This is going to be a lot offun.
It is split into, as of now,two episodes, and I think we
might have a third episodecoming out where we are actually
going to do a channeling rennysaid she'd love to share and
channel a message, so that wouldbe part three that would be
(06:42):
part three, so it's on the books.
Lauren (06:44):
We haven't done it yet.
Frank (06:46):
But it's probably going to be.
These all are probably going tobe released consecutively.
Yeah, so here we go.
It's going to be good.
Lauren (06:57):
All right, send it away Again to the moon.
It's a rocket.
Rennie, thank you so much forjoining us on Clear Voyaging.
I'm so thrilled to meet you andto hear your story, and so is
Frank.
We're excited.
Renee (07:16):
It is nice to meet you both and so excited that we have
been connected and lookingforward to this.
Lauren (07:23):
Yay, we love to start from the beginning, which is
always it's always a big one.
It's a great place to start,though.
Yeah, we like to know how didyou start doing?
You are a trance channel and apsychic medium and you connect
and a quantum healer and aquantum healer.
(07:44):
Okay, I'm so pumped right now.
How did you start doing this?
Renee (07:52):
I have always had my spiritual gifts wide open, and
so, as a child, I was alwayscommunicating with spirits.
Um, I used to think thatputting myself completely
underneath my blanket, head totoe, holding my stuffed animals,
was going to make it where theycouldn't see me.
(08:13):
Um, I was terrified to sleep inmy own room.
I slept in the living room onthe couch.
Um, it was just always, youknow, because I didn, I didn't
understand.
Nobody was there telling me oh,by the way, this is what's
going on.
Even though my mom was apsychic medium, it didn't take
the time to tell me like, okay,this is what's going on, that's
(08:36):
what to expect.
My mom didn't tell me aboutthis until after she passed away
and came back and talked to meall about it in the middle of
the night one night.
Oh, my gosh, yeah, I was likewell, thanks, I really could
have used this information.
Lauren (08:55):
Um, growing up, yeah that would have been helpful.
Yeah, it would have been veryhelpful.
That's so cool.
Though wait, how old were youwhen that happened, when she
came to you in your dream?
Renee (09:08):
She passed when I was 19 and about six months I was
probably still 19 when she camethrough and let me know, wow,
she would push my shoulder,because I always slept on my
side, would push my shoulderbecause I always slept on my
(09:28):
side.
Um, to push my shoulder.
And you know, you kind of gohave your shoulder move without
you doing anything.
You're kind of like, uh, what'sthat?
And then you know, after acouple of times doing that, she
pulled my blanket a little bitand I was like, oh no, what's
that?
And then she moved my blanketlike fully, just like off my
(09:48):
shoulder, so that it wouldreally get my attention, yeah,
and she used to sit behind myknees like if I were in a fetal
position, and she would pat myhip and then I could feel the
impression in the bed and herhand on my hip.
And then she, you know, being amedium, communication is
(10:11):
telepathic so we had atelepathic conversation about
how she was a psychic medium andhow I had the gift and growing
up she always told me I hadmagic fingers and I, you know,
never really paid attention toit, but she was speaking to my
healing abilities.
And on my mom's side of thefamily were Cherokee and Pawnee
(10:32):
and the psychic medium thatcomes through the Pawnee line.
So my grandma's side of thefamily.
Lauren (10:41):
Whoa oh my gosh.
That's a lot of information toget.
Frank (10:47):
The only time anyone pushes my shoulders, when Lauren
pushes my shoulder to get me tostop snoring Roll over.
Yours is much more interesting.
Lauren (10:55):
And so much more loving.
I'm sure that's so sweet though.
Frank (11:02):
So what happened from there?
You're 19 and now you arehaving a psychic experience with
your, with your mom.
Renee (11:09):
So you know, and go back a little bit, just because
there's a lot that happened as achild, yeah, so I would have
all these experiences as a kidand I wasn't sure what exactly
was happening.
So you know, like at probablyage 10 or 11, my friends and I
(11:29):
wasn't sure what exactly washappening.
So you know, like at probablyage 10 or 11, my friends and I
thought it would be fun to get aOuija board.
Uh-oh yeah, the little thingthat moved around started moving
around by itself when we wereasking questions, because I'm a
medium, and so whoever wastrying to communicate with us,
we vowed never to use one again.
I don't recommend them foranybody.
(11:50):
So if you're listening, don't,don't do it, don't do it.
Frank (11:54):
I think we've put out that warning a few times, yeah
you don't know who or whatyou're communicating with
through that.
Renee (12:00):
Yeah, um, there were other times where, um, at a
friend's birthday party, it wasa sleepover and they wanted to
play bloody mary and sent usinto the bathroom one by one.
Well, I was doing it andsomebody appeared in the mirror
(12:23):
and freaked me out and I I ranhome thankfully, she's only like
a couple houses up my housethat I could see the whole
(12:51):
situation happening, and thisperson had passed long before I
came into this world, so I wasseeing it like a hologram of the
the whole.
It was, um, somebody else tookthem out and I could see that
all playing out.
(13:11):
This was all around the sameage.
So, um, if you could imaginebeing around 10 years old and
all of these things happening nobeing pretty terrified, yeah,
and so that's why I was sayingyou know, if my mom would have
told me this stuff ahead of time, I could have learned how to do
spiritual protections and allof that kind of stuff.
Lauren (13:30):
Yeah, you were in a Stephen King novel a little bit,
I mean just like all thosethings happen all in the same
time frame is wild, yeah yeah,yeah.
Renee (13:43):
And then, um, you know, I had a twin brother.
He passed when you're 10 daysold and he's always been with me
as one of my guides and so Iwas always communicating with
him as well and I would knowthings before they happened.
Um, so there were multiple justkind of traumatic events that
(14:08):
happened as a child and I wouldknow that they were coming
before they happened.
And so having my brother,having the gift, were beneficial
to know these things beforethey happened, beneficial to
(14:28):
know these things before theyhappened.
Um, so then when my mom camethrough, it kind of explained
everything to me.
Like, oh, you know, when I wasa kid, I was a teenager I was
looking at the um astrology.
I was all into the horoscopes,um, got tarot cards, all of
those things, and I didn't knowwhy I was drawn to all of this.
It was just like something Ijust it was.
You know, obviously my soulknew these things, but I didn't
(14:50):
know it as a kid and um, so mymom told me, um, after she
passed, and then, um, she wasone of my guides for a bit after
she had passed, and when I wasabout 25, my mom guided me to a
(15:15):
little religious shop withsomebody who was a psychic
medium.
It was kind of like my momhandpicked somebody to be a
mentor for me and so I learned alot of things.
I started working with thesaints, I started to learn how
to do Olympias with holy waterand carnations and it's
(15:38):
basically a spiritual cleansing,and I would do healings and
readings for people in thislittle shop.
And then it was kind of like Igot pushed out in the nest and I
kept going, um, kept, you know,opening my gifts, utilizing
them, um, and then it wasn'tuntil about uh, 20, it was the
(16:10):
new year's eve of 2014, so 2013into 2014 I told my husband, who
was my boyfriend at the time, Isaid I'm gonna have my own
spiritual business.
And he's like okay, great, youknow not thinking I would
actually go through with it.
Yeah, um, I had graduated withmy degree in psychology and I
(16:31):
was going to go do.
Um, I was going to go do, I wasgoing to go get my PsyD so I
could be a clinical psychologist.
And the universe was like no,you're going to be restricted in
that role and you have a biggerimpact to make.
So it took me until 2018 toreally start stepping into
(16:57):
working with my gifts.
And then I was working incorporate accounting and
absolutely amazing company Iworked for Like would be
people's dream jobs and they'rejust amazing, best company I've
ever worked for.
Well, spirit had been trying totell me to get on my path and
(17:22):
stop trying to be in corporatebecause that's not where I'm
meant to be, and I strained myback and then, a few months
later, strained my back and thena few months later, I had a
stress fracture in my lumbar andthen, a few months later, I
slipped a disc in my lumbar, somuch so that I couldn't get out
of bed for a whole day, like Icouldn't breathe without pain
(17:46):
going throughout my entire body.
I couldn't walk.
I I literally couldn't get outof bed yeah, frank has had that
experience before.
Lauren (17:54):
It's awful.
It is awful yeah.
Renee (17:57):
So first, you know, leading up to that, I was having
a hard time because, you know,moving and bending and all of
that was really difficult.
And then that incident happened.
It was kind of like my teamsaying, okay, are you done now?
Yeah, you had enough.
And of course I was like, oh, Ican keep doing this.
(18:17):
And it took me another.
So that flare up happened inAugust of 2021.
I had already started mybusiness, but I was doing both
corporate and helping otherpeople.
So in December of 2021, I putin my notice with corporate and
(18:41):
I said I basically told them Ican either work part-time or I
have to step down.
I just can't do this.
It's the definition of insanitywhere I'm breaking my back
every day working and thenrecovering over the weekend,
just to come back and break myback again, yeah.
(19:01):
And so they said, well, wedon't have any part-time
positions.
And so I did step down and itwas really hard for me to let go
of the stable, secure job andtrust the universe that they
were going to still support me,because having that corporate
(19:22):
position, you know, that's very3D energy and my team was asking
me to step into 5Dconsciousness at that time, and
so I did, and the universe hastaught me every step of the way.
You know, has it been a smoothride?
No, but there's so much freedomin my being, being in my soul
(19:47):
mission, rather than trying tofit into what society says we're
supposed to do.
You know you're supposed to goto school and then you're
supposed to do.
You know you're supposed to goto school and then you're
supposed to get married and havewhat is it?
3.2 kids, and you're supposedto have two dogs, a cat and, you
know, a hamster or something.
It's just not how I am meant tooperate.
(20:12):
And so I did my first paidreading at a fair in um.
It was actually leap day of2020.
Wow, and then the world satdown and everything went online.
And then, when I first startedout, I started with Renny's
(20:34):
intuitive feeling, because I wasgoing to be at this fair and I
didn't know what else to call it.
And then, in 2021, at the endof 2020, I created the light
heels and I launched it inFebruary of 2021, and so it has
been a journey.
And then, um, every step of theway, I've just gotten
(20:56):
obliterated.
So I did go into a whole bunchof healing classes.
I sat in healing classes forabout two and a half years
because I really feel that it'simportant to be a clear channel
when you're helping other people, right?
And so I went through and I dida whole bunch of healing that I
(21:16):
didn't even realize that I hadto do um, but I did.
We know well, I still continueto do my healing um, but I felt
it was really important to dothat before I stepped into this
and um.
You know every step of the way.
You.
You know, through the healing,my channel opened even more and
(21:41):
I had already been a transmedium.
I used to trans channelpeople's loved ones back when I
used to work at that shop backin 2005.
And I kind of shut it downbecause I had an experience
where this woman that I did notknow came through and she was
(22:01):
literally having me do Africandancing and I didn't know how to
like get her out.
Luckily somebody there wasthere to assist me get her out.
Luckily somebody there wasthere to assist me.
Lauren (22:18):
But from that experience I was like no, I'm not doing
this.
Yeah, whoa.
I haven't heard of someone likenot being able to.
That would be my fear of tryingto be a chance channel.
Like how do I get them out nowthat I'm done?
Renee (22:31):
this was also before I understood how to work with it.
Yeah, I was just like, oh, Ican do it, okay, let's do it.
And then I was like, oh, maybeI should learn some more about
this before I let people come in, right, because I would trans
channel my mom and my brotherand then like for other people's
loved ones, and it was fine.
(22:51):
But that experience I was likemaybe I shouldn't do that.
Now I can do it, no problem.
But um, back then it was likethis is why also important to
learn what you're doing.
Yeah, be like properlydeveloped.
Yeah, yeah.
So, as my channel opened, evenmore than the galactic
federation of light came through, I have also channeled the
(23:16):
members of the GalacticFederation.
I also have importanthistorical figures come through.
So I have channeled people likeMarilyn Monroe, mlk, george
Floyd he had a lot of messagesafter he passed that he wanted
(23:38):
to get out to the world TyreeNichols I have had JFK, abraham
Lincoln it's just kind of likewhoever has a message for the
world will come through.
They always ask permission.
I don't let anyone come in ifthey haven't asked.
I have strong parameters now.
Frank (24:01):
Yeah, but how do you say no to Abraham Lincoln?
You know?
Renee (24:04):
Yeah.
Lauren (24:07):
Or MLK, or MLK.
Yeah, I have so many questions.
First, can you, can you definewhat the galactic federation?
Frank (24:19):
of like no, no, no, that is not.
First, let's do it.
Okay, a couple basic things.
Was there any indication thatyour mom had intuitive abilities
when she was living?
Renee (24:34):
yes what?
Frank (24:35):
what was?
What was her thing like?
What was daily life with mom?
Renee (24:38):
she would.
Um, there were times where youknow she would see something she
wouldn't, because so my mom wasborn in 1944, so she was in the
generation that you didn'tspeak of these things.
You didn't speak of familytrauma.
You didn't speak of thesethings.
You didn't speak of familytrauma.
You didn't speak of yourspiritual gifts.
It was just, you know, youdidn't talk about all these
things.
(24:59):
Yeah, and so a lot of what Iknew was because my dad told me
oh, wow, no-transcript you, you,you, you, you, you, you, god,
(30:33):
that we had to have an intimateintimate uh, somebody in between
, I think that's the word rightnow Like an intermediary,
intimate, somebody in between.
I can't think of the word rightnow Like an intermediary.
Yes, that's it, and we didn'thave a direct connection, but we
are one, we're returning tooneness and there is no
separation.
We are all source, we're allpart of source.
(30:55):
There's no separation.
I am you, you are me, you knowyou're the tree, you're all part
of source.
There's no separation.
I am you, you are me, you'rethe tree, you're the ocean,
you're everything.
All of these energies that havehad power over others is
starting to fall.
We're seeing this across theboard.
Look at how many governmentshave fallen in the last three
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weeks as Pluto entered Aquarius.
This is so back in 2021, itcame through my channel that we
were the Earth and humanconsciousness are both ascending
at the same time.
We're in the age of the GreatAwakening, and so back then they
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were talking about how we were.
We were about to go into labor,birthing a new consciousness,
um, and they used the birthingprocess as the um, the metaphor,
birthing process as themetaphor.
So you know, on the way to thehospital then you know that was
2021.
2022, we were havingcontractions.
2023, we were starting to push,and then, on the solar eclipse
(32:16):
on April 8th, we made the finalpush.
We had a flashpoint, a jump intimelines, and then now we're
anchoring into the 5Dconsciousness.
(32:37):
So it was kind of like a powermoment for 3D.
Lauren (32:40):
Okay, you have a question?
Go ahead, I do.
First of all, it's a boy secondof all okay, it's not a boy,
it's a feminine.
It's a feminine energy that'strue.
Renee (32:50):
The divine feminine is rising.
Lauren (32:51):
Try that again it's a girl, the future is female, okay
you correct?
Renee (32:58):
right, rani.
Yes, the patriarchy is fallingthe patriarchy is falling sorry
bro, I always like to think acouple things.
Frank (33:05):
I always like to think that, like religion did,
organized religion served apurpose at some point, just for
this, oh, absolutely yeah, andthat we are just just beyond
that now and now.
Instead of like it'sorganizational usefulness, now,
all we see is the borders thatwe need to transcend, which I
used to be very angry aboutorganized religion, and I still
am, but I'm now.
I'm telling everybody no, no,no, like that's part of it.
(33:27):
You don't have to like rethinkeverything, you just have to
like you know, hop over thefence now, yeah.
Renee (33:33):
I went through all of my like.
I went through all of my like.
I went through so manydifferent religions because, you
know, you look for that whenyou're going through the process
and then I realized, oh, Idon't need religion because I
have that connection.
Right, and some people do needreligion, some people need a
guidepost to you know, a way tomove forward in life.
(33:58):
But yes, you know, we dotranscend it, it's just yeah you
know rules and regulationsright.
Frank (34:05):
Yeah, religion is a gateway drug.
Should probably use a differentterm gateway drug.
Whatever um, it's a gateway tobigger, better um.
So you've mentioned the term 5da handful of times and I'd can
I get a your definition of whatthat is?
You're talking about themovement from 3d to 5d.
(34:28):
I and and to be fair, my firstexposure to the term 5d was
during covid when everyone wasreally huge into conspiracies
and q, q, a non and all thisstuff.
Lauren (34:41):
So I all they kept talking about.
Frank (34:43):
It was always talking about so it was all very wrapped
up in this negative connotation, but I know it's got to be more
than that, so I'd love yourdefinition it definitely is more
than that um.
Renee (34:53):
So I'm going to just give a quick definition of the 3D
matrix.
It is where there's power overothers.
This is like those systems andstructures that have been put in
place, like going throughschool and then getting a
corporate position and followingthe guidelines of what we're
supposed to do by a certain age,all of that kind of stuff Work
(35:16):
your ass off until you canretire and then, if you have
money, you can enjoy your life.
Then, um, that kind of energy,um 5d I refer to as new earth
energy, so it's new earthconsciousness, um, and it is
(35:37):
about oneness.
It is about returning to oursoul rather than, you know,
having the answers outside ofourselves is very 3d.
Having all the answers within usis 5d.
But there's also just this hugeshift that we're going through,
(35:59):
where we're returning to love,compassion, kindness, dignity,
respect, equality, equity.
Now, this isn't all going tohappen overnight, but that is
where we're leading and that'salso why we're going through
what we're going through rightnow, so that we can see the
contrast.
And 3D has a lot of duality.
(36:21):
5d there's not duality there'sno separation.
People are like fighting it sohard right now because yeah, you
know, we've been so entrainedin fear and you the fear of
other.
We're all souls having a humanexperience.
There is no difference, and theonly difference that has been
(36:45):
perpetuated has been drilledinto us by people who want to
control.
Right, yeah, because at ourcore we're all souls.
We're at different frequencies,but we're all souls.
Lauren (36:59):
Yeah.
Frank (37:00):
You know what I have.
First of all, I love that.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Thank you, um.
What does sometimes like thething that makes big transitions
difficult for people is a lackof imagination, and what I mean
by that is our entire, like asocietal structure is based on
(37:20):
this 3d, like hierarchy andtears and yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what does like a societybased on 5d consciousness?
Like resemble, and this isagain maybe part of my lack of
imagination.
It's hard for me to imaginesuch a thing.
It sounds great though.
Lauren (37:35):
Yeah, cause it's always been this way.
Yeah, I mean yeah, even youleaving your job was even that
has been hard to like mentally.
Frank (37:45):
Our listeners are tired of hearing this, but they are,
I'm not I'm not gonna say itagain because I'm they can't do
it again.
I can't do this to you guysagain, but but yeah, your
journey, similar journey here,um yeah I had to go I had.
Renee (37:57):
It's very hard, yeah, it is very hard, but also like to
be able to, you know, finallyjust get to that place of
surrender, to the knowing thatyou've had in your soul and the
nudges that you've been gettingthat you're not on the right
path and that this bright littlething over here is the thing
(38:19):
for you and you just have to sayyes to it.
Yeah, then I can guarantee thatit has.
It's probably been reallydifficult as a human in a 3d
world to make the jump into like5d, like I can create my life.
(38:47):
So that's another thing.
In 5d, we are the creators.
We are creating our lives.
Yeah yeah there's no other forcethat's creating it.
It's us.
Frank (39:00):
Right.
Yeah, that is a thing I'd liketo throw out to, because I know
we've spoken to a couplelisteners lately who are in the
middle of big transitionsthemselves.
Yeah, I will say, if you know,people have heard my not to make
this about me, it's not aboutme, but I will say, like a big
realization I've had recentlyabout the transition that I'm in
the middle of, or like I feellike towards the end of, I feel
(39:21):
like I'm getting there is thatyour 3d life is likely hard and
difficult and structured in away that doesn't feel authentic,
and the thing that keeps youfrom moving on to the next thing
is that that fear of theunknown and like, which is also
hard.
It's going to be hard, but oneis hard in a direction that,
like you know, you don't want togo in, and the other one is
(39:44):
hard in a direction that's goingto restart your life in a way
that's more, more conscious andavailable to your direct, your
directives and what you want.
So what I mean to say is takethe leap bros.
It's great Because, seriously,if they were, you've outgrown.
So what I mean to say is takethe leap bros, go for it, it's
great.
Renee (39:59):
Because, seriously, if they were, you've outgrown.
Just think if, okay, we're alladults Could you imagine trying
to put on infant clothing?
It's not going to fit, it couldbe very uncomfortable.
We have outgrown things andwe're always constantly in
(40:20):
evolution.
Frank (40:21):
Yeah, yeah.
Renee (40:22):
And so you've always been okay, even when it didn't feel
like it.
And everything that's happenedhas happened for a reason, and
it has happened for your highestgood, whether you realize it or
not.
Yeah, it's all about growth wesimultaneously like.
Lauren (40:39):
we fight against it sometimes because it's so
uncomfortable, because we're soused to the structure, we're so
used to like the one way.
Frank (40:48):
Well, look what 3d structure has.
What 3d structure has providedat some point was a promise of
safety, and it's if, likeeveryone, take a second and look
around.
It was a lie the whole time, ormaybe at one point it wasn't,
but it is now Like what are yougoing to get taken care of into
your older years and you'regoing to have plenty of money.
(41:10):
It's not there, it's gone.
I'm sorry, it sucks and you arenow responsible for what
happens next.
And that's a difficulttransition to make and it is
scary.
But unless you're like in thetop 1% of like a people in
America as far as your earningsare concerned, you are not going
to be taken care of and you arethe only person who's going to
be able to take care of you.
And I don't say it mean that inlike a scary, like you know,
(41:34):
fear mongering way.
I mean it like you were alwaysin control and you are now.
So what are you going to doabout?
Lauren (41:38):
it.
Renee (41:39):
Yeah, what you gotta do about it?
Just think about, like you know, quitting your job.
They replaced you right away.
Yeah, it doesn't matter thatyou're not there anymore yeah,
it's crazy that's such a hardthing.
The person who took my place,yeah, and I was perfectly fine
(41:59):
with that.
But also like not wishinganything bad on anyone, but if
you got hit by a bus today,they'd have someone else in your
position by like a week fromnow.
Frank (42:10):
Yeah and like the, the another thing to let go of maybe
this is for the youngerlisteners, because maybe the
older ones know it already butthe concept of like, the
meritocracy of like you'll dohard work and someone will
notice, and and and like step up.
Lauren (42:21):
And so it's not happening.
Frank (42:23):
It's not going to happen because the person that you
think is going to come andrescue you also is looking for
the same thing.
They're waiting for someone torecognize them and pull them out
of the muck.
It's not happening.
Dude, dude.
Lauren (42:42):
So when you say like moving into a five D, like way
of living, is that what youconsider like ascending a little
or like an ascension orsomething?
Renee (42:49):
Ascension is just, you know, moving up.
So we all have a level of,we're all vibrational frequency
and you know we're all somewhereelse on the vibrational
frequency scale.
So you know, differentfrequencies do different things
than healing.
(43:09):
So you know, if you'relistening to 444 hertz or 732
hertz or 1111 hertz, they're alldifferent frequencies, just
like humans, we all arevibrational frequency.
We have a level of light closeand that's the amount of light
that we hold within our system.
(43:29):
Once you get past 51, there'sno going back.
So humanity collectively,humanity collectively has
reached the 51% and the earthhad already reached that 51%.
So we're all going forward Now.
My soul was there the two timesAtlantis fell.
I was there in Lemuria.
(43:50):
I have been there with Joan ofArc.
I have been in ancient Egypt.
I have done a lot of thingsthroughout all of my lifetime.
I volunteered to come and helpin the ascension.
My soul is here to up-levelhuman consciousness and help the
earth ascend.
Not a big mission at all, nobig deal what.
(44:19):
Back in 2021, I learned how toread and heal through the
akashic records.
Okay, and the very firstmessage I got when I asked
through the akashic records,what am I here, what is my
mission here?
And that is exactly what camethrough.
I'm here to up level humanconsciousness and help the earth
(44:40):
ascend.
And you know, now we're at thepoint where we're anchoring in
that new earth frequency, where,you know, I'm showing people
that there's a way forward as wereturn to our authentic soul,
as we return to our authenticsoul, we are lighting the way
and as we live into that and wedo our work, when we do our work
(45:05):
, we're looking at okay, whatpatterns, programming,
conditioning am I holding?
That doesn't serve me.
So let's say, with abundance.
A lot of people heard money isthe root of all evil, or we
can't afford that because blah,blah, blah, or rich people are
(45:26):
evil, or they did somethingreally bad to get that money.
Whatever the things were thatwe were told it's all a bunch of
BS.
Money is energy, it is thefrequency and we, as humans,
decided to put a value on it.
We said, hell, let's print somepaper and put a number on it,
(45:50):
and then that was what we'regoing to use.
Those are outdated old energies, old belief systems that you
know.
Money is the root of all evil.
No a, it's a tool, it's anamplifier.
It helps you to create more, ithelps you to help others in the
world.
It's not evil, it is afrequency and we should all
(46:13):
attune to it.
Last week in my energeticrebirth program, I actually
trans-channeled theconsciousness of money and
encoded everyone with thefrequencies of money and so, uh,
that was really fun and oh,that's cool.
It was just coming through.
Wait is is is.
Frank (46:35):
Is is the concept of money, since people spend so
much time thinking about it.
I mean, you know, when youspend a lot of time thinking
about something, you create.
You kind of create a manifestof being.
Lauren (46:49):
Oh, I see.
Frank (46:52):
Is money of being.
Renee (46:55):
I don't know how to put this, it's an energy, so not all
energy takes form.
So if you just think of, likeradio waves, you can think of
energy at the energy of money,as a frequency of energy that
doesn't actually have a formenergy that doesn't actually
(47:19):
have a form that makes sense.
Lauren (47:20):
I mean especially because, like you said, people
think about it so much.
You put a lot of emphasis on it, whether it's negative energy,
like you said, like people arelike oh, I don't even pay
attention to it because money,like rich people suck, or money
is evil, or what are you knowall the things you said or
people are so desperate for itthat it creates this.
(47:43):
That's like.
Those are all like lowfrequency.
Renee (47:45):
Yeah.
And if you think about it, youknow if you ever acted like that
in a relationship, the personthat you were in relationship
with ran the other directionbecause you were too clingy, too
desperate, right.
And the same thing with money.
Money doesn't want to come intothat energy.
If you're relaxed with moneyand know that money is going to
(48:05):
show up and you just have thisenergy of like, hey, you know,
come and play, yeah, and theenergy of money is going to come
to you in the form of currencyor opportunities, because it's
not always physical, tangiblemoney.
It could be like you get a tripto somewhere and you don't have
(48:26):
to pay for it, or you get extrapoints on your hotel thing or
whatever.
There are ways abundance showsup in other ways in which money
sends it to you, and when wetell money that we, so any
request we put out money, moneyhas to answer.
(48:47):
So please remove need or want.
So never say I need money or Iwant money, because money has to
respond to that by keeping youin the perpetual need or want of
money.
So delete it, delete it, deleteit.
Frank (49:04):
What can we say?
Renee (49:04):
instead Money.
Please give me X Y.
Lauren (49:09):
Z Speaking directly to money.
Yes, that's the, that'sinteresting.
Renee (49:15):
Yes, now you know you were talking about the fear of
things.
Now you know you were talkingabout the fear of things.
So you know, a lot of timeswhen we have a situation, we go
into the worst case scenario andwe play out all the ways that
the thing can go wrong, or we'reso focused on the problem that
we create a bigger problem.
(49:35):
So instead of focusing on theproblem, focus on the solution.
Okay, because when you focus onthe solution, the opportunities
for possibility of the solutionopen up.
But if you're like problem,problem, problem, problem,
problem, problem, all you see isthe problem and you can't see
(49:57):
any of the opportunities for thesolution.
So if you just do a quickmindset shift there, the
solutions open up and this worksfor everything.
Lauren (50:12):
Frank is staring directly into my soul right now
because I have done some healingthis year however however, that
is great advice because there'sbeen.
I have a history of likeimmediately thinking of the
(50:36):
problem of any, whatever it is,and Frank's always like why do
you?
Renee (50:43):
being solution based, you're just thinking of why
something wouldn't work yeah, sothank you, and apparently this
is something that was necessaryto be heard today, because they
brought it through.
Yes, and there's another pieceof this is something that was
necessary to be heard today,because they brought it through
yes and um, there's anotherpiece of this is that we give
meaning to things.
I'm sorry, Are you doing?
Frank (51:02):
are you doing like a trans thing, trans state right
now, or is this just always?
Renee (51:06):
I'm always channeling, so this is information that's
coming through Got it.
Okay, great, I'm not transchanneling at the moment.
Okay, you're just.
You would know if I were umchanneling.
They're giving me information.
I'm relating.
Okay, when I trans channel, Iallow them to speak through me,
got it.
Lauren (51:24):
But right now you're just like receiving some kind of
information I'm receiving.
Renee (51:27):
Maybe I need to hear or you know the listeners may need
exactly, okay, perfect, so, um,the piece was around um, giving
meaning to things.
If you make things a big deal,they are a big deal, but it's
just energy.
So you give meaning to it andit creates meaning.
(51:47):
If you neutralize the meaning,then the energetic charge
becomes neutral.
So let's say you got into a bigfight with your best friend and
you're like oh, they were wrong, and blah, blah, blah, and
you're making a big deal out ofit.
But if you just come to it andsaying, okay, well, we had an
(52:09):
argument and I'm just gonna beneutral about that energetic
charge where you got so madabout it, you wouldn't be able
to attune back to that frequencybecause you've already said,
okay, I'm going to be neutralhere, and then you can see the
solutions of how to go aboutthings going forward.
Frank (52:31):
Or you've been stuck on something in your energy forever
this is very similar to whatIsley Hallows was talking about
when she was talking about, like, reprogramming events, like,
but not the event itself, butthe emotional charge to the
event.
Yeah, where you can, neville.
Renee (52:47):
Goddard is the one.
Yeah, neville Goddard had theconcept of being able to go back
.
He had an experiment I can'tremember if it was Neville
himself or it was somebody else.
They had physically brokentheir leg.
Went to the doctor, got anx-ray, confirmed that it was a
(53:09):
broken leg, x-rayed God it's acast.
Went into the memory of theevent and said that you know,
the leg was completely healed.
There was never a break in thefirst place.
Went back to the doctor a weeklater.
There was no break, noindication that that leg had
(53:32):
ever been broken.
Frank (53:35):
Okay, so this is where there's been some I don't want
to say dispute on our show, but,like we've always talked about
being able to reprogram your ownemotions, like you're in
control of your emotions, butusing it to, using it to redraft
the past is this must be whereyou're the you use the term
quantum healing yeah, yes isthis where quantum healing comes
(53:55):
into play it is a concept ofquantum healing.
Renee (54:00):
so um, qhhp quantum healing, hypnosis technique, and
then beyond quantum healing,zqh.
They're both um formalities,they're formal modalities of
quantum healing.
I I have gotten certified inboth and then also I just work
in the quantum.
That's where my energy works.
(54:22):
You can go into hypnosis andyou can find out all the answers
that your soul wants you toknow and you can release the
charge of the emotions thatyou've been holding.
So let's say that you know youalways had these hard feelings
(54:43):
with your dad because of thingsthat happened as a kid and you
go back into hypnosis and findout the reason why that event
happened.
You go back into hypnosis andfind out the reason why that
event happened and then you canread that a team can come in and
do a healing and release thoseemotions around that event.
(55:05):
You can also do it withoutbeing in hypnosis because we
have descended so far inconsciousness that we can.
We can access that now.
Frank (55:14):
So when you say team comes in and does healing like a
spirit team, or what do youmean?
Renee (55:18):
So we all have spirit teams, we all have healing teams
and a lot of us have galacticteams, and so this would be your
healing team that came throughto do the healing.
A lot of times in um bqh youcan ask to do a body scan and
(55:39):
the highest self of the personcomes through and starts doing a
complete scan of the body,starting at the top of the head,
working all the way down to thebottoms of the feet.
Frank (55:50):
That sounds similar to your Reiki stuff.
Lauren (55:53):
Yeah, your.
Frank (55:54):
Reiki stuff.
Lauren (55:56):
My Reiki stuff.
Renee (56:00):
But they can see what's going on and then they can bring
healing to it, like, oh, youreyesight's not 100%.
Let's clear the energies thathave created your eyesight not
being 100% or your liver's notfunctioning 100%.
So let's clear out the toxinsthat are in the liver and you
know it does work.
Frank (56:21):
Wow.
Renee (56:21):
Okay.
Frank (56:22):
So spirit team, healing team and galactic team.
So I guess it's time for yourquestion, Lauren.
Lauren (56:36):
Let's get to the Galactic Federation.
Frank (56:44):
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She is a trance channel, aquantum mentor and a new Earth
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She's real cool.
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And we are also sizzling, we'rehot, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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You like it.
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Frank (02:48):
We are starting to fundraise for a documentary, a
clairvoyaging documentary.
Lauren (02:51):
The meetings are underway, yeah people are lined
up, the discussions arehappening.
So we got a 501 c3 statusthrough a company called
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Guys, it's the end of the yearand sometimes getting getting
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Frank (03:21):
That's a little fun fact for you really interesting,
lauren, I did not expect such ashell and yet I you know I'm
appreciative of this one becauseit's going to something good
I'm just trying to tell peoplethat if they're like, oh, I made
too much money this year, Igotta put it somewhere.
The classic problem give it tolauren, could sell a catch, a
ketchup popsicle to a womanwearing white gloves.
Lauren (03:43):
That's from Tommy what?
Oh, I like it.
Frank (03:46):
Yeah.
Lauren (03:47):
But could I?
Frank (03:48):
am I a salesperson.
You just did.
Lauren (03:51):
Okay, Thank you for.
Thank you for that.
Frank (03:52):
Look at her.
Thank you for pumping me up.
She's glowing, I'm confident.
Lauren (03:56):
Sales manager of the year, so I you know I can sell
things that I'm passionate aboutand I'm really excited about
this documentary.
We're going to put a link toour fundraising page in the show
notes, so hop on over there ifyou want to make a tax
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Frank (04:15):
Let me make one more note here.
That's not on our list of notes, but we are also going to be
coming out, probably in the nextcouple of weeks, with an
updated clairvoyaging website.
It's going to be more of aresource for people who need
that for themselves or for theirchildren and age-appropriate
content.
We want to be able to guide theway for a new generation of
(04:37):
intuitive people.
So coming up soon.
Lauren (04:40):
Conscious people, yeah, awakened souls.
Frank (04:49):
So, yeah, some fun things to look forward to.
Lauren (04:50):
It not ready yet, but yeah it'll be ready it'll be
ready soon, and so this is justmore content to come, including
a large bit of content in theform of documentary yeah, the
first of many, I I believe.
Frank (05:03):
Yeah, but don't quote me.
Lauren (05:04):
Yeah, yeah, we don't know.
Frank (05:05):
Let's move on.
Lauren (05:06):
Uh, thank you for being here with us, and with that,
let's, let's get into the Rennyconversation.
Frank (05:12):
We got to talk about Renny.
Lauren (05:14):
Yeah, she's, she, she's a real deal.
She's very cool.
Frank (05:19):
Team Voyagers.
This voyagers, this is ourfirst dip of the toe into the
alien conversation, which, nowthat I think about it, is quite
timely.
With what's going on in newjersey and all that stuff, I
don't know how this is going toturn out.
Maybe that statement won't agewell, but uh, this conversation
we had will.
(05:40):
It's very cool.
If you've ever been curiousabout star seeds or if you've
heard the galactic federation asa term, stay tuned, because
this is the one and I just wantto point out if you've ever been
like very skeptical of thesethings, so have I.
It sounds like it's straightout of star trek.
(06:00):
It doesn't sound believable atfirst.
I honestly like it all soundsreally great and then you throw
in like the term galacticfederation and I'm like okay,
stop.
But you know what?
I'm a convert, and renny did itfor me yeah that's a.
It's kind of a big deal and itmakes a lot of sense.
(06:20):
So, um, dude, dudes, jump in.
This is going to be a lot offun.
It is split into, as of now,two episodes, and I think we
might have a third episodecoming out where we are actually
going to do a channeling rennysaid she'd love to share and
channel a message, so that wouldbe part three that would be
(06:42):
part three, so it's on the books.
Lauren (06:44):
We haven't done it yet.
Frank (06:46):
But it's probably going to be.
These all are probably going tobe released consecutively.
Yeah, so here we go.
It's going to be good.
Lauren (06:57):
All right, send it away Again to the moon.
It's a rocket.
Rennie, thank you so much forjoining us on Clear Voyaging.
I'm so thrilled to meet you andto hear your story, and so is
Frank.
We're excited.
Renee (07:16):
It is nice to meet you both and so excited that we have
been connected and lookingforward to this.
Lauren (07:23):
Yay, we love to start from the beginning, which is
always it's always a big one.
It's a great place to start,though.
Yeah, we like to know how didyou start doing?
You are a trance channel and apsychic medium and you connect
and a quantum healer and aquantum healer.
(07:44):
Okay, I'm so pumped right now.
How did you start doing this?
Renee (07:52):
I have always had my spiritual gifts wide open, and
so, as a child, I was alwayscommunicating with spirits.
Um, I used to think thatputting myself completely
underneath my blanket, head totoe, holding my stuffed animals,
was going to make it where theycouldn't see me.
(08:13):
Um, I was terrified to sleep inmy own room.
I slept in the living room onthe couch.
Um, it was just always, youknow, because I didn, I didn't
understand.
Nobody was there telling me oh,by the way, this is what's
going on.
Even though my mom was apsychic medium, it didn't take
the time to tell me like, okay,this is what's going on, that's
(08:36):
what to expect.
My mom didn't tell me aboutthis until after she passed away
and came back and talked to meall about it in the middle of
the night one night.
Oh, my gosh, yeah, I was likewell, thanks, I really could
have used this information.
Lauren (08:55):
Um, growing up, yeah that would have been helpful.
Yeah, it would have been veryhelpful.
That's so cool.
Though wait, how old were youwhen that happened, when she
came to you in your dream?
Renee (09:08):
She passed when I was 19 and about six months I was
probably still 19 when she camethrough and let me know, wow,
she would push my shoulder,because I always slept on my
side, would push my shoulderbecause I always slept on my
(09:28):
side.
Um, to push my shoulder.
And you know, you kind of gohave your shoulder move without
you doing anything.
You're kind of like, uh, what'sthat?
And then you know, after acouple of times doing that, she
pulled my blanket a little bitand I was like, oh no, what's
that?
And then she moved my blanketlike fully, just like off my
(09:48):
shoulder, so that it wouldreally get my attention, yeah,
and she used to sit behind myknees like if I were in a fetal
position, and she would pat myhip and then I could feel the
impression in the bed and herhand on my hip.
And then she, you know, being amedium, communication is
(10:11):
telepathic so we had atelepathic conversation about
how she was a psychic medium andhow I had the gift and growing
up she always told me I hadmagic fingers and I, you know,
never really paid attention toit, but she was speaking to my
healing abilities.
And on my mom's side of thefamily were Cherokee and Pawnee
(10:32):
and the psychic medium thatcomes through the Pawnee line.
So my grandma's side of thefamily.
Lauren (10:41):
Whoa oh my gosh.
That's a lot of information toget.
Frank (10:47):
The only time anyone pushes my shoulders, when Lauren
pushes my shoulder to get me tostop snoring Roll over.
Yours is much more interesting.
Lauren (10:55):
And so much more loving.
I'm sure that's so sweet though.
Frank (11:02):
So what happened from there?
You're 19 and now you arehaving a psychic experience with
your, with your mom.
Renee (11:09):
So you know, and go back a little bit, just because
there's a lot that happened as achild, yeah, so I would have
all these experiences as a kidand I wasn't sure what exactly
was happening.
So you know, like at probablyage 10 or 11, my friends and I
(11:29):
wasn't sure what exactly washappening.
So you know, like at probablyage 10 or 11, my friends and I
thought it would be fun to get aOuija board.
Uh-oh yeah, the little thingthat moved around started moving
around by itself when we wereasking questions, because I'm a
medium, and so whoever wastrying to communicate with us,
we vowed never to use one again.
I don't recommend them foranybody.
(11:50):
So if you're listening, don't,don't do it, don't do it.
Frank (11:54):
I think we've put out that warning a few times, yeah
you don't know who or whatyou're communicating with
through that.
Renee (12:00):
Yeah, um, there were other times where, um, at a
friend's birthday party, it wasa sleepover and they wanted to
play bloody mary and sent usinto the bathroom one by one.
Well, I was doing it andsomebody appeared in the mirror
(12:23):
and freaked me out and I I ranhome thankfully, she's only like
a couple houses up my housethat I could see the whole
(12:51):
situation happening, and thisperson had passed long before I
came into this world, so I wasseeing it like a hologram of the
the whole.
It was, um, somebody else tookthem out and I could see that
all playing out.
(13:11):
This was all around the sameage.
So, um, if you could imaginebeing around 10 years old and
all of these things happening nobeing pretty terrified, yeah,
and so that's why I was sayingyou know, if my mom would have
told me this stuff ahead of time, I could have learned how to do
spiritual protections and allof that kind of stuff.
Lauren (13:30):
Yeah, you were in a Stephen King novel a little bit,
I mean just like all thosethings happen all in the same
time frame is wild, yeah yeah,yeah.
Renee (13:43):
And then, um, you know, I had a twin brother.
He passed when you're 10 daysold and he's always been with me
as one of my guides and so Iwas always communicating with
him as well and I would knowthings before they happened.
Um, so there were multiple justkind of traumatic events that
(14:08):
happened as a child and I wouldknow that they were coming
before they happened.
And so having my brother,having the gift, were beneficial
to know these things beforethey happened, beneficial to
(14:28):
know these things before theyhappened.
Um, so then when my mom camethrough, it kind of explained
everything to me.
Like, oh, you know, when I wasa kid, I was a teenager I was
looking at the um astrology.
I was all into the horoscopes,um, got tarot cards, all of
those things, and I didn't knowwhy I was drawn to all of this.
It was just like something Ijust it was.
You know, obviously my soulknew these things, but I didn't
(14:50):
know it as a kid and um, so mymom told me, um, after she
passed, and then, um, she wasone of my guides for a bit after
she had passed, and when I wasabout 25, my mom guided me to a
(15:15):
little religious shop withsomebody who was a psychic
medium.
It was kind of like my momhandpicked somebody to be a
mentor for me and so I learned alot of things.
I started working with thesaints, I started to learn how
to do Olympias with holy waterand carnations and it's
(15:38):
basically a spiritual cleansing,and I would do healings and
readings for people in thislittle shop.
And then it was kind of like Igot pushed out in the nest and I
kept going, um, kept, you know,opening my gifts, utilizing
them, um, and then it wasn'tuntil about uh, 20, it was the
(16:10):
new year's eve of 2014, so 2013into 2014 I told my husband, who
was my boyfriend at the time, Isaid I'm gonna have my own
spiritual business.
And he's like okay, great, youknow not thinking I would
actually go through with it.
Yeah, um, I had graduated withmy degree in psychology and I
(16:31):
was going to go do.
Um, I was going to go do, I wasgoing to go get my PsyD so I
could be a clinical psychologist.
And the universe was like no,you're going to be restricted in
that role and you have a biggerimpact to make.
So it took me until 2018 toreally start stepping into
(16:57):
working with my gifts.
And then I was working incorporate accounting and
absolutely amazing company Iworked for Like would be
people's dream jobs and they'rejust amazing, best company I've
ever worked for.
Well, spirit had been trying totell me to get on my path and
(17:22):
stop trying to be in corporatebecause that's not where I'm
meant to be, and I strained myback and then, a few months
later, strained my back and thena few months later, I had a
stress fracture in my lumbar andthen, a few months later, I
slipped a disc in my lumbar, somuch so that I couldn't get out
of bed for a whole day, like Icouldn't breathe without pain
(17:46):
going throughout my entire body.
I couldn't walk.
I I literally couldn't get outof bed yeah, frank has had that
experience before.
Lauren (17:54):
It's awful.
It is awful yeah.
Renee (17:57):
So first, you know, leading up to that, I was having
a hard time because, you know,moving and bending and all of
that was really difficult.
And then that incident happened.
It was kind of like my teamsaying, okay, are you done now?
Yeah, you had enough.
And of course I was like, oh, Ican keep doing this.
(18:17):
And it took me another.
So that flare up happened inAugust of 2021.
I had already started mybusiness, but I was doing both
corporate and helping otherpeople.
So in December of 2021, I putin my notice with corporate and
(18:41):
I said I basically told them Ican either work part-time or I
have to step down.
I just can't do this.
It's the definition of insanitywhere I'm breaking my back
every day working and thenrecovering over the weekend,
just to come back and break myback again, yeah.
(19:01):
And so they said, well, wedon't have any part-time
positions.
And so I did step down and itwas really hard for me to let go
of the stable, secure job andtrust the universe that they
were going to still support me,because having that corporate
(19:22):
position, you know, that's very3D energy and my team was asking
me to step into 5Dconsciousness at that time, and
so I did, and the universe hastaught me every step of the way.
You know, has it been a smoothride?
No, but there's so much freedomin my being, being in my soul
(19:47):
mission, rather than trying tofit into what society says we're
supposed to do.
You know you're supposed to goto school and then you're
supposed to do.
You know you're supposed to goto school and then you're
supposed to get married and havewhat is it?
3.2 kids, and you're supposedto have two dogs, a cat and, you
know, a hamster or something.
It's just not how I am meant tooperate.
(20:12):
And so I did my first paidreading at a fair in um.
It was actually leap day of2020.
Wow, and then the world satdown and everything went online.
And then, when I first startedout, I started with Renny's
(20:34):
intuitive feeling, because I wasgoing to be at this fair and I
didn't know what else to call it.
And then, in 2021, at the endof 2020, I created the light
heels and I launched it inFebruary of 2021, and so it has
been a journey.
And then, um, every step of theway, I've just gotten
(20:56):
obliterated.
So I did go into a whole bunchof healing classes.
I sat in healing classes forabout two and a half years
because I really feel that it'simportant to be a clear channel
when you're helping other people, right?
And so I went through and I dida whole bunch of healing that I
(21:16):
didn't even realize that I hadto do um, but I did.
We know well, I still continueto do my healing um, but I felt
it was really important to dothat before I stepped into this
and um.
You know every step of the way.
You.
You know, through the healing,my channel opened even more and
(21:41):
I had already been a transmedium.
I used to trans channelpeople's loved ones back when I
used to work at that shop backin 2005.
And I kind of shut it downbecause I had an experience
where this woman that I did notknow came through and she was
(22:01):
literally having me do Africandancing and I didn't know how to
like get her out.
Luckily somebody there wasthere to assist me get her out.
Luckily somebody there wasthere to assist me.
Lauren (22:18):
But from that experience I was like no, I'm not doing
this.
Yeah, whoa.
I haven't heard of someone likenot being able to.
That would be my fear of tryingto be a chance channel.
Like how do I get them out nowthat I'm done?
Renee (22:31):
this was also before I understood how to work with it.
Yeah, I was just like, oh, Ican do it, okay, let's do it.
And then I was like, oh, maybeI should learn some more about
this before I let people come in, right, because I would trans
channel my mom and my brotherand then like for other people's
loved ones, and it was fine.
(22:51):
But that experience I was likemaybe I shouldn't do that.
Now I can do it, no problem.
But um, back then it was likethis is why also important to
learn what you're doing.
Yeah, be like properlydeveloped.
Yeah, yeah.
So, as my channel opened, evenmore than the galactic
federation of light came through, I have also channeled the
(23:16):
members of the GalacticFederation.
I also have importanthistorical figures come through.
So I have channeled people likeMarilyn Monroe, mlk, george
Floyd he had a lot of messagesafter he passed that he wanted
(23:38):
to get out to the world TyreeNichols I have had JFK, abraham
Lincoln it's just kind of likewhoever has a message for the
world will come through.
They always ask permission.
I don't let anyone come in ifthey haven't asked.
I have strong parameters now.
Frank (24:01):
Yeah, but how do you say no to Abraham Lincoln?
You know?
Renee (24:04):
Yeah.
Lauren (24:07):
Or MLK, or MLK.
Yeah, I have so many questions.
First, can you, can you definewhat the galactic federation?
Frank (24:19):
of like no, no, no, that is not.
First, let's do it.
Okay, a couple basic things.
Was there any indication thatyour mom had intuitive abilities
when she was living?
Renee (24:34):
yes what?
Frank (24:35):
what was?
What was her thing like?
What was daily life with mom?
Renee (24:38):
she would.
Um, there were times where youknow she would see something she
wouldn't, because so my mom wasborn in 1944, so she was in the
generation that you didn'tspeak of these things.
You didn't speak of familytrauma.
You didn't speak of thesethings.
You didn't speak of familytrauma.
You didn't speak of yourspiritual gifts.
It was just, you know, youdidn't talk about all these
things.
(24:59):
Yeah, and so a lot of what Iknew was because my dad told me
oh, wow, no-transcript you, you,you, you, you, you, you, god,
(30:33):
that we had to have an intimateintimate uh, somebody in between
, I think that's the word rightnow Like an intermediary,
intimate, somebody in between.
I can't think of the word rightnow Like an intermediary.
Yes, that's it, and we didn'thave a direct connection, but we
are one, we're returning tooneness and there is no
separation.
We are all source, we're allpart of source.
(30:55):
There's no separation.
I am you, you are me, you knowyou're the tree, you're all part
of source.
There's no separation.
I am you, you are me, you'rethe tree, you're the ocean,
you're everything.
All of these energies that havehad power over others is
starting to fall.
We're seeing this across theboard.
Look at how many governmentshave fallen in the last three
(31:18):
weeks as Pluto entered Aquarius.
This is so back in 2021, itcame through my channel that we
were the Earth and humanconsciousness are both ascending
at the same time.
We're in the age of the GreatAwakening, and so back then they
(31:49):
were talking about how we were.
We were about to go into labor,birthing a new consciousness,
um, and they used the birthingprocess as the um, the metaphor,
birthing process as themetaphor.
So you know, on the way to thehospital then you know that was
2021.
2022, we were havingcontractions.
2023, we were starting to push,and then, on the solar eclipse
(32:16):
on April 8th, we made the finalpush.
We had a flashpoint, a jump intimelines, and then now we're
anchoring into the 5Dconsciousness.
(32:37):
So it was kind of like a powermoment for 3D.
Lauren (32:40):
Okay, you have a question?
Go ahead, I do.
First of all, it's a boy secondof all okay, it's not a boy,
it's a feminine.
It's a feminine energy that'strue.
Renee (32:50):
The divine feminine is rising.
Lauren (32:51):
Try that again it's a girl, the future is female, okay
you correct?
Renee (32:58):
right, rani.
Yes, the patriarchy is fallingthe patriarchy is falling sorry
bro, I always like to think acouple things.
Frank (33:05):
I always like to think that, like religion did,
organized religion served apurpose at some point, just for
this, oh, absolutely yeah, andthat we are just just beyond
that now and now.
Instead of like it'sorganizational usefulness, now,
all we see is the borders thatwe need to transcend, which I
used to be very angry aboutorganized religion, and I still
am, but I'm now.
I'm telling everybody no, no,no, like that's part of it.
(33:27):
You don't have to like rethinkeverything, you just have to
like you know, hop over thefence now, yeah.
Renee (33:33):
I went through all of my like.
I went through all of my like.
I went through so manydifferent religions because, you
know, you look for that whenyou're going through the process
and then I realized, oh, Idon't need religion because I
have that connection.
Right, and some people do needreligion, some people need a
guidepost to you know, a way tomove forward in life.
(33:58):
But yes, you know, we dotranscend it, it's just yeah you
know rules and regulationsright.
Frank (34:05):
Yeah, religion is a gateway drug.
Should probably use a differentterm gateway drug.
Whatever um, it's a gateway tobigger, better um.
So you've mentioned the term 5da handful of times and I'd can
I get a your definition of whatthat is?
You're talking about themovement from 3d to 5d.
(34:28):
I and and to be fair, my firstexposure to the term 5d was
during covid when everyone wasreally huge into conspiracies
and q, q, a non and all thisstuff.
Lauren (34:41):
So I all they kept talking about.
Frank (34:43):
It was always talking about so it was all very wrapped
up in this negative connotation, but I know it's got to be more
than that, so I'd love yourdefinition it definitely is more
than that um.
Renee (34:53):
So I'm going to just give a quick definition of the 3D
matrix.
It is where there's power overothers.
This is like those systems andstructures that have been put in
place, like going throughschool and then getting a
corporate position and followingthe guidelines of what we're
supposed to do by a certain age,all of that kind of stuff Work
(35:16):
your ass off until you canretire and then, if you have
money, you can enjoy your life.
Then, um, that kind of energy,um 5d I refer to as new earth
energy, so it's new earthconsciousness, um, and it is
(35:37):
about oneness.
It is about returning to oursoul rather than, you know,
having the answers outside ofourselves is very 3d.
Having all the answers within usis 5d.
But there's also just this hugeshift that we're going through,
(35:59):
where we're returning to love,compassion, kindness, dignity,
respect, equality, equity.
Now, this isn't all going tohappen overnight, but that is
where we're leading and that'salso why we're going through
what we're going through rightnow, so that we can see the
contrast.
And 3D has a lot of duality.
(36:21):
5d there's not duality there'sno separation.
People are like fighting it sohard right now because yeah, you
know, we've been so entrainedin fear and you the fear of
other.
We're all souls having a humanexperience.
There is no difference, and theonly difference that has been
(36:45):
perpetuated has been drilledinto us by people who want to
control.
Right, yeah, because at ourcore we're all souls.
We're at different frequencies,but we're all souls.
Lauren (36:59):
Yeah.
Frank (37:00):
You know what I have.
First of all, I love that.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Thank you, um.
What does sometimes like thething that makes big transitions
difficult for people is a lackof imagination, and what I mean
by that is our entire, like asocietal structure is based on
(37:20):
this 3d, like hierarchy andtears and yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what does like a societybased on 5d consciousness?
Like resemble, and this isagain maybe part of my lack of
imagination.
It's hard for me to imaginesuch a thing.
It sounds great though.
Lauren (37:35):
Yeah, cause it's always been this way.
Yeah, I mean yeah, even youleaving your job was even that
has been hard to like mentally.
Frank (37:45):
Our listeners are tired of hearing this, but they are,
I'm not I'm not gonna say itagain because I'm they can't do
it again.
I can't do this to you guysagain, but but yeah, your
journey, similar journey here,um yeah I had to go I had.
Renee (37:57):
It's very hard, yeah, it is very hard, but also like to
be able to, you know, finallyjust get to that place of
surrender, to the knowing thatyou've had in your soul and the
nudges that you've been gettingthat you're not on the right
path and that this bright littlething over here is the thing
(38:19):
for you and you just have to sayyes to it.
Yeah, then I can guarantee thatit has.
It's probably been reallydifficult as a human in a 3d
world to make the jump into like5d, like I can create my life.
(38:47):
So that's another thing.
In 5d, we are the creators.
We are creating our lives.
Yeah yeah there's no other forcethat's creating it.
It's us.
Frank (39:00):
Right.
Yeah, that is a thing I'd liketo throw out to, because I know
we've spoken to a couplelisteners lately who are in the
middle of big transitionsthemselves.
Yeah, I will say, if you know,people have heard my not to make
this about me, it's not aboutme, but I will say, like a big
realization I've had recentlyabout the transition that I'm in
the middle of, or like I feellike towards the end of, I feel
(39:21):
like I'm getting there is thatyour 3d life is likely hard and
difficult and structured in away that doesn't feel authentic,
and the thing that keeps youfrom moving on to the next thing
is that that fear of theunknown and like, which is also
hard.
It's going to be hard, but oneis hard in a direction that,
like you know, you don't want togo in, and the other one is
(39:44):
hard in a direction that's goingto restart your life in a way
that's more, more conscious andavailable to your direct, your
directives and what you want.
So what I mean to say is takethe leap bros.
It's great Because, seriously,if they were, you've outgrown.
So what I mean to say is takethe leap bros, go for it, it's
great.
Renee (39:59):
Because, seriously, if they were, you've outgrown.
Just think if, okay, we're alladults Could you imagine trying
to put on infant clothing?
It's not going to fit, it couldbe very uncomfortable.
We have outgrown things andwe're always constantly in
(40:20):
evolution.
Frank (40:21):
Yeah, yeah.
Renee (40:22):
And so you've always been okay, even when it didn't feel
like it.
And everything that's happenedhas happened for a reason, and
it has happened for your highestgood, whether you realize it or
not.
Yeah, it's all about growth wesimultaneously like.
Lauren (40:39):
we fight against it sometimes because it's so
uncomfortable, because we're soused to the structure, we're so
used to like the one way.
Frank (40:48):
Well, look what 3d structure has.
What 3d structure has providedat some point was a promise of
safety, and it's if, likeeveryone, take a second and look
around.
It was a lie the whole time, ormaybe at one point it wasn't,
but it is now Like what are yougoing to get taken care of into
your older years and you'regoing to have plenty of money.
(41:10):
It's not there, it's gone.
I'm sorry, it sucks and you arenow responsible for what
happens next.
And that's a difficulttransition to make and it is
scary.
But unless you're like in thetop 1% of like a people in
America as far as your earningsare concerned, you are not going
to be taken care of and you arethe only person who's going to
be able to take care of you.
And I don't say it mean that inlike a scary, like you know,
(41:34):
fear mongering way.
I mean it like you were alwaysin control and you are now.
So what are you going to doabout?
Lauren (41:38):
it.
Renee (41:39):
Yeah, what you gotta do about it?
Just think about, like you know, quitting your job.
They replaced you right away.
Yeah, it doesn't matter thatyou're not there anymore yeah,
it's crazy that's such a hardthing.
The person who took my place,yeah, and I was perfectly fine
(41:59):
with that.
But also like not wishinganything bad on anyone, but if
you got hit by a bus today,they'd have someone else in your
position by like a week fromnow.
Frank (42:10):
Yeah and like the, the another thing to let go of maybe
this is for the youngerlisteners, because maybe the
older ones know it already butthe concept of like, the
meritocracy of like you'll dohard work and someone will
notice, and and and like step up.
Lauren (42:21):
And so it's not happening.
Frank (42:23):
It's not going to happen because the person that you
think is going to come andrescue you also is looking for
the same thing.
They're waiting for someone torecognize them and pull them out
of the muck.
It's not happening.
Dude, dude.
Lauren (42:42):
So when you say like moving into a five D, like way
of living, is that what youconsider like ascending a little
or like an ascension orsomething?
Renee (42:49):
Ascension is just, you know, moving up.
So we all have a level of,we're all vibrational frequency
and you know we're all somewhereelse on the vibrational
frequency scale.
So you know, differentfrequencies do different things
than healing.
(43:09):
So you know, if you'relistening to 444 hertz or 732
hertz or 1111 hertz, they're alldifferent frequencies, just
like humans, we all arevibrational frequency.
We have a level of light closeand that's the amount of light
that we hold within our system.
(43:29):
Once you get past 51, there'sno going back.
So humanity collectively,humanity collectively has
reached the 51% and the earthhad already reached that 51%.
So we're all going forward Now.
My soul was there the two timesAtlantis fell.
I was there in Lemuria.
(43:50):
I have been there with Joan ofArc.
I have been in ancient Egypt.
I have done a lot of thingsthroughout all of my lifetime.
I volunteered to come and helpin the ascension.
My soul is here to up-levelhuman consciousness and help the
earth ascend.
Not a big mission at all, nobig deal what.
(44:19):
Back in 2021, I learned how toread and heal through the
akashic records.
Okay, and the very firstmessage I got when I asked
through the akashic records,what am I here, what is my
mission here?
And that is exactly what camethrough.
I'm here to up level humanconsciousness and help the earth
(44:40):
ascend.
And you know, now we're at thepoint where we're anchoring in
that new earth frequency, where,you know, I'm showing people
that there's a way forward as wereturn to our authentic soul,
as we return to our authenticsoul, we are lighting the way
and as we live into that and wedo our work, when we do our work
(45:05):
, we're looking at okay, whatpatterns, programming,
conditioning am I holding?
That doesn't serve me.
So let's say, with abundance.
A lot of people heard money isthe root of all evil, or we
can't afford that because blah,blah, blah, or rich people are
(45:26):
evil, or they did somethingreally bad to get that money.
Whatever the things were thatwe were told it's all a bunch of
BS.
Money is energy, it is thefrequency and we, as humans,
decided to put a value on it.
We said, hell, let's print somepaper and put a number on it,
(45:50):
and then that was what we'regoing to use.
Those are outdated old energies, old belief systems that you
know.
Money is the root of all evil.
No a, it's a tool, it's anamplifier.
It helps you to create more, ithelps you to help others in the
world.
It's not evil, it is afrequency and we should all
(46:13):
attune to it.
Last week in my energeticrebirth program, I actually
trans-channeled theconsciousness of money and
encoded everyone with thefrequencies of money and so, uh,
that was really fun and oh,that's cool.
It was just coming through.
Wait is is is.
Frank (46:35):
Is is the concept of money, since people spend so
much time thinking about it.
I mean, you know, when youspend a lot of time thinking
about something, you create.
You kind of create a manifestof being.
Lauren (46:49):
Oh, I see.
Frank (46:52):
Is money of being.
Renee (46:55):
I don't know how to put this, it's an energy, so not all
energy takes form.
So if you just think of, likeradio waves, you can think of
energy at the energy of money,as a frequency of energy that
doesn't actually have a formenergy that doesn't actually
(47:19):
have a form that makes sense.
Lauren (47:20):
I mean especially because, like you said, people
think about it so much.
You put a lot of emphasis on it, whether it's negative energy,
like you said, like people arelike oh, I don't even pay
attention to it because money,like rich people suck, or money
is evil, or what are you knowall the things you said or
people are so desperate for itthat it creates this.
(47:43):
That's like.
Those are all like lowfrequency.
Renee (47:45):
Yeah.
And if you think about it, youknow if you ever acted like that
in a relationship, the personthat you were in relationship
with ran the other directionbecause you were too clingy, too
desperate, right.
And the same thing with money.
Money doesn't want to come intothat energy.
If you're relaxed with moneyand know that money is going to
(48:05):
show up and you just have thisenergy of like, hey, you know,
come and play, yeah, and theenergy of money is going to come
to you in the form of currencyor opportunities, because it's
not always physical, tangiblemoney.
It could be like you get a tripto somewhere and you don't have
(48:26):
to pay for it, or you get extrapoints on your hotel thing or
whatever.
There are ways abundance showsup in other ways in which money
sends it to you, and when wetell money that we, so any
request we put out money, moneyhas to answer.
(48:47):
So please remove need or want.
So never say I need money or Iwant money, because money has to
respond to that by keeping youin the perpetual need or want of
money.
So delete it, delete it, deleteit.
Frank (49:04):
What can we say?
Renee (49:04):
instead Money.
Please give me X Y.
Lauren (49:09):
Z Speaking directly to money.
Yes, that's the, that'sinteresting.
Renee (49:15):
Yes, now you know you were talking about the fear of
things.
Now you know you were talkingabout the fear of things.
So you know, a lot of timeswhen we have a situation, we go
into the worst case scenario andwe play out all the ways that
the thing can go wrong, or we'reso focused on the problem that
we create a bigger problem.
(49:35):
So instead of focusing on theproblem, focus on the solution.
Okay, because when you focus onthe solution, the opportunities
for possibility of the solutionopen up.
But if you're like problem,problem, problem, problem,
problem, problem, all you see isthe problem and you can't see
(49:57):
any of the opportunities for thesolution.
So if you just do a quickmindset shift there, the
solutions open up and this worksfor everything.
Lauren (50:12):
Frank is staring directly into my soul right now
because I have done some healingthis year however however, that
is great advice because there'sbeen.
I have a history of likeimmediately thinking of the
(50:36):
problem of any, whatever it is,and Frank's always like why do
you?
Renee (50:43):
being solution based, you're just thinking of why
something wouldn't work yeah, sothank you, and apparently this
is something that was necessaryto be heard today, because they
brought it through.
Yes, and there's another pieceof this is something that was
necessary to be heard today,because they brought it through
yes and um, there's anotherpiece of this is that we give
meaning to things.
I'm sorry, Are you doing?
Frank (51:02):
are you doing like a trans thing, trans state right
now, or is this just always?
Renee (51:06):
I'm always channeling, so this is information that's
coming through Got it.
Okay, great, I'm not transchanneling at the moment.
Okay, you're just.
You would know if I were umchanneling.
They're giving me information.
I'm relating.
Okay, when I trans channel, Iallow them to speak through me,
got it.
Lauren (51:24):
But right now you're just like receiving some kind of
information I'm receiving.
Renee (51:27):
Maybe I need to hear or you know the listeners may need
exactly, okay, perfect, so, um,the piece was around um, giving
meaning to things.
If you make things a big deal,they are a big deal, but it's
just energy.
So you give meaning to it andit creates meaning.
(51:47):
If you neutralize the meaning,then the energetic charge
becomes neutral.
So let's say you got into a bigfight with your best friend and
you're like oh, they were wrong, and blah, blah, blah, and
you're making a big deal out ofit.
But if you just come to it andsaying, okay, well, we had an
(52:09):
argument and I'm just gonna beneutral about that energetic
charge where you got so madabout it, you wouldn't be able
to attune back to that frequencybecause you've already said,
okay, I'm going to be neutralhere, and then you can see the
solutions of how to go aboutthings going forward.
Frank (52:31):
Or you've been stuck on something in your energy forever
this is very similar to whatIsley Hallows was talking about
when she was talking about, like, reprogramming events, like,
but not the event itself, butthe emotional charge to the
event.
Yeah, where you can, neville.
Renee (52:47):
Goddard is the one.
Yeah, neville Goddard had theconcept of being able to go back
.
He had an experiment I can'tremember if it was Neville
himself or it was somebody else.
They had physically brokentheir leg.
Went to the doctor, got anx-ray, confirmed that it was a
(53:09):
broken leg, x-rayed God it's acast.
Went into the memory of theevent and said that you know,
the leg was completely healed.
There was never a break in thefirst place.
Went back to the doctor a weeklater.
There was no break, noindication that that leg had
(53:32):
ever been broken.
Frank (53:35):
Okay, so this is where there's been some I don't want
to say dispute on our show, but,like we've always talked about
being able to reprogram your ownemotions, like you're in
control of your emotions, butusing it to, using it to redraft
the past is this must be whereyou're the you use the term
quantum healing yeah, yes isthis where quantum healing comes
(53:55):
into play it is a concept ofquantum healing.
Renee (54:00):
so um, qhhp quantum healing, hypnosis technique, and
then beyond quantum healing,zqh.
They're both um formalities,they're formal modalities of
quantum healing.
I I have gotten certified inboth and then also I just work
in the quantum.
That's where my energy works.
(54:22):
You can go into hypnosis andyou can find out all the answers
that your soul wants you toknow and you can release the
charge of the emotions thatyou've been holding.
So let's say that you know youalways had these hard feelings
(54:43):
with your dad because of thingsthat happened as a kid and you
go back into hypnosis and findout the reason why that event
happened.
You go back into hypnosis andfind out the reason why that
event happened and then you canread that a team can come in and
do a healing and release thoseemotions around that event.
(55:05):
You can also do it withoutbeing in hypnosis because we
have descended so far inconsciousness that we can.
We can access that now.
Frank (55:14):
So when you say team comes in and does healing like a
spirit team, or what do youmean?
Renee (55:18):
So we all have spirit teams, we all have healing teams
and a lot of us have galacticteams, and so this would be your
healing team that came throughto do the healing.
A lot of times in um bqh youcan ask to do a body scan and
(55:39):
the highest self of the personcomes through and starts doing a
complete scan of the body,starting at the top of the head,
working all the way down to thebottoms of the feet.
Frank (55:50):
That sounds similar to your Reiki stuff.
Lauren (55:53):
Yeah, your.
Frank (55:54):
Reiki stuff.
Lauren (55:56):
My Reiki stuff.
Renee (56:00):
But they can see what's going on and then they can bring
healing to it, like, oh, youreyesight's not 100%.
Let's clear the energies thathave created your eyesight not
being 100% or your liver's notfunctioning 100%.
So let's clear out the toxinsthat are in the liver and you
know it does work.
Frank (56:21):
Wow.
Renee (56:21):
Okay.
Frank (56:22):
So spirit team, healing team and galactic team.
So I guess it's time for yourquestion, Lauren.
Lauren (56:36):
Let's get to the Galactic Federation.
Frank (56:44):
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