February 13, 2025 • 53 mins
Carrie Lingenfelter, the insightful host of the Heart to Heart Parents podcast shares transformative strategies to nurture children's intuitive abilities while addressing the inner child issues we may face as parents. Discover practical advice for parents as we explore the heart-centered approach to parenting highly sensitive children. Carrie draws from her personal experiences and spiritual insights, spotlighting the shift from fear-based to love-based parenting. Learn how letting children lead with their own rhythms can foster profound growth and connection. Carrie equips neurodiverse and sensitive kids with the mindful tools needed to thrive in today's fast-paced world. This episode is rich with personal stories and revelations, offering invaluable lessons for parents and non-parents alike.
Dive into the world of energy management and empowerment in parenting. We discuss innovative techniques for helping sensitive children navigate their emotions and surroundings, from visualizing protective lights to understanding energetic influences. Carrie shares her perspective on star seed and indigo children, offering insights into nurturing their unique gifts. We emphasize the importance of mindfulness and maintaining emotional balance as parents, exploring practices like meditation to ensure both we and our children remain energetically grounded and healthy.
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Lauren (00:01):
Hello friends, In this episode we talk to Keri
Lingenfelter, host of the Heartto Heart Parents podcast and
former educator and speechtherapist.
She is an advocate forconscious parenting.
But even if you aren't a parent, I think you'll still get a lot
out of this episode.
I'm Lauren Leon and I'm Frank.
We are a married couplelearning how to develop our own
(00:22):
intuition.
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We have some really helpful guides, so one.
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All the contact info for the like psychics and mediums
that we've had on the show.
Lauren (03:29):
Yeah, and that's really great.
Also, we have a guide forparents raising psychic children
.
We have a guide for people whoare needing help expanding their
religious faith.
Frank (03:43):
Yeah, In case specifically for parents, if
you're a parent and you haverealized that your kid is
psychic and you it kind ofchallenges your belief system,
there's kind of a guide in therefor how to how to expand your
own faith system.
And then we have one more guidein there for if you yourself
are new, developing or buddingpsychic, just the basic ethical
rules that we've picked up over.
You know the past year or so ofof talking to a very intuitive
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people.
Lauren (04:06):
Yeah, so if you or someone you know needs some
guidance, it's just a nicehelpful hub of resources.
Frank (04:15):
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We're going to make some likemore.
All those guys are going toturn into videos.
We're going to keep making moreguides, so we want it to be a
resource.
For you know kind of kind ofresource we're looking for when,
when glenn was going throughher thing before we met all
these cool people yeah sobecause I did some extensive
research and I couldn't findshit and well, it's like you
(04:37):
know, you can find one book hereand there you can find books or
maybe some blogs or something,but I feel like there's
something helpful about kind ofhaving a more of a contained.
Lauren (04:52):
Here's this and here's this, and you can go to this
person you know.
Frank (04:55):
Listen to this episode whatever it's a hub, yeah so go
check it out so tell yourfriends speaking of our guest is
really really cool.
She is.
Lauren (05:10):
Carrie was.
She was great to talk to.
I got some you know what?
I had some helpful guidancefrom her today that I actually
implemented with our kids.
Frank (05:21):
Well, like as usual when it comes to information on how
to help raise your kids to behealthy people, you inevitably
run into some advice about howto just like take care of your
own inner child stuff that maybeyou didn't get around to or
wasn't done for you.
So, even if you're not a parent, there is advice in there for
(05:41):
you.
Lauren (05:42):
Yes, enjoy this episode, check out her podcast, but
first listen to this episode.
Frank (05:50):
Yeah, let her rip.
Lauren (05:54):
Carrie, thank you so much for joining us on Clear
Voyaging.
We are so excited to talk alittle bit about parenting in
this episode.
So can you give a little bit ofyour backstory and tell us what
brought you here as host of theHeart to Heart Parents podcast?
Carrie (06:11):
Yeah, definitely so.
Thanks so much for having meguys.
I was raised spiritually.
I'll start out with that.
I was raised spiritually.
My grandmother is fromArgentina, and so my mom and my
grandmother both werespiritually connected their
whole lives, and I grew up goingto psychics and healers and
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raised with a positive mindset,looking for how we can change
our mindset from challenges intowhat are we meant to learn and
grow in this moment, as well asliving in the present moment,
not focusing on the future.
Having said all of that, westill come into life as a human,
which can be challenging,especially for a highly
sensitive person like me, and Idefinitely disconnected with a
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lot of it in my 20s as well asmy teenage years.
So when I became a parent, itreally helped me to find that
peace again.
I was trying to be this perfectin the box parent.
I was trying to read all of thebooks.
What to what to expect whenyou're expecting anything was
one of them which I should havethrown out the window, cause it
was really just fear-based, likeit really just brought out that
(07:19):
here's everything that could gowrong, and I didn't realize
that I was such a person thatwould get into my head or trying
to fit the mold of being thisperfect mom.
So, luckily, I had spiritualpeople around me that they said
throw out the books, connectwith your heart.
Like stop trying to get yourkid on a sleep schedule, stop
(07:40):
trying to make him eat at acertain time.
Follow your kid, connect withyour kid.
And I was bouncing on a yogaball in the closet one time,
looking down at my little guyand he had these bright blue
eyes with his little binky andhe was staring up at me like I'm
not going to go to sleep rightnow.
I have 85 sleep gadgets on.
Right now.
You're trying to make me go tosleep.
(08:01):
I don't want to.
And I realized, like, follow mykid, connect with him.
He's going to show me how he,when he wants to eat, when he
wants to sleep, um, and this kidreally came in very spirited
and it really just rocked ourworld.
I was a formerly an educator andso I thought I've got this
(08:22):
parenting thing.
Husband, you can just sit inthe back seat.
I've got this parenting thing,husband, you can just sit in the
back seat.
I've got it.
I'm driving the car, you don'tneed to worry.
I was made for this.
I was a speech therapist and ateacher and so, um, but when our
kid came in, he had thesebright, fluorescent, blue eyes.
They laid them on top of me andthey said my husband, um, he
connected with my eyes rightaway with these eyes, and I was
(08:44):
like Whoa, what is this?
What?
is going on and my husband saidhe's beautiful Carrie.
And he turned and he lookeddirectly into my husband's eyes
and he was like what, what?
He's so alert and he hasn'tstopped being alert since.
He's just um.
And now our daughter is thesame way.
They both have this passion andthis zest and this energy for
(09:06):
life.
So I started Heart to HeartParents.
As a former educator, Ioriginally started with wanting
to teach our kids mindful tools,especially neurodiverse kids
that are born with these amazinggifts but have a really hard
time with the heightenedsensitivity and being in the
human form, but have a reallyhard time with the heightened
sensitivity and being in thehuman form.
My kids were born connectedspiritually and wanting to learn
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about the world, and I'vewatched them have a hard time
being in the human form.
Just putting on snow pants is alot of screaming and a lot of
this is hard, mom, I hate this.
Why is life so hard?
And so teaching them thesetools including you know a lot
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of the sensory based tools butalso integrating these mindful
pieces of yes, your brain canget heavy, but I need you to
hear your heart, I need you tostay connected.
Yes, your soul can sometimes belike oh, this human form is why
is mom feeding me this greenstuff?
I don't want to eat this andjust wanting to disconnect from
their spirit and their soul.
So teaching them to regroundthemselves and also, as a highly
sensitive mom, teaching myselfto reground myself too.
(10:14):
So it was a very long way ofhow I got here.
Lauren (10:19):
No, no, that's I mean.
It's perfect.
That's so great Also.
So how old are your kids now?
Carrie (10:25):
Yeah, so I have an almost seven year old daughter
and an almost 10 year old son.
Lauren (10:30):
Oh my gosh, we have a seven year old daughter too.
Carrie (10:33):
Okay, I love that era.
It's very fun.
It's one of my favorites.
It's really fun yeah.
Lauren (10:38):
Yeah, when you talk about like how sensitive your
kids are, what does that looklike?
Is it um, because I knoweveryone's talking about like
neurodiversity or just highlysensitive people?
Um, what does that look like inyour household?
Carrie (10:54):
Yeah, definitely.
Um.
So there is definitely thelabel piece, the medical piece
of getting that support, and Iwas a speech therapist so I
understand the therapy and theinsurance and all of those fun
pieces, those human form pieces,and so in our house we have
used labels to get extra supportand therapies from OTs.
(11:16):
So there is the label piece andthen I'm finding oftentimes we
are almost using an umbrella oflabels to fit kids into because
we do not know how to help thesekids that are coming in.
They're so gifted and talented,their sensitivity systems are
(11:37):
so heightened, they comespirited right, they come on a
mission.
I recently had a sorry, this isa little story, but I recently
had a family constellationsession.
I don't know if you guys havelooked into that, but we were
doing a it's.
The idea is the energy that isbrought down in different
generations of family and it cancause like, for example, one of
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my kids had some anger thatthey were going through and it
just kept coming up in all thesesituations and then it would
trigger some anger in me, and soduring our session we worked on
some anger that was in myfamily that was coming down.
It didn't even necessarily haveanything to do with me, but it
was coming down to me and thenalso my kiddo, and so we worked
on healing that during thatsession and that was helpful.
(12:21):
In now, my son or my kiddo andmyself are getting so we stay
grounded and calm duringsituations that we may explode
in normally.
So that's the idea in thisfamily constellation.
So the facilitator, she wastelling me that these kids that
are born today in the familyconstellations idea, right now,
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in this era, they're coming inwith so many gifts and these
lives and souls missions that wecannot control them.
We can guide and facilitatetheir journey, but we cannot
control them.
And I feel like that is.
So my kids like, yeah, go cleanup right now.
Ah, my system is not ready.
Like, just this explosion oflike I can't handle that right
(13:03):
now, mom.
I had a long day at school.
I had, you know, this explosionof like.
I can't handle that right now,mom.
I had a long day at school.
I had, you know I'm.
I have a scratchy throat rightnow.
Whatever the reasoning is,that's the sensitivity piece
that I'm talking about too is Ihave to monitor my kids and what
energy level they're at Ifthey've had a long day, if they
have been in school, usuallyright after school for my kids
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is not the time to ask them topick up their toys or to ask
them to clear off their desk.
So the sensitivity piece isdefinitely in the sensory system
.
Being a human, but also I'vebeen working with my kids a lot
to understand that, althoughthere are labels for these
sensitivities, which I do notshare with my kids ever the
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labels I'm working to empower mykids.
These heightened sensitivitiesso, um, like things can take
food, food can taste stronger tomy kids.
My husband has a really strongsense of smell, so when we were
looking at going to buy a house,he was like this house had a
cat, I can smell it, and theyreally like I don't smell it.
So in our house, theseheightened sensitivities.
(14:08):
We call them superpowers,whereas, like an OT or somebody
in the therapy side, might belike well, your system, your
brain is overworking, you'rebeing overstimulated by this,
but we're looking at it as theseare gifts that that spirit, god
, universe, has given to me sothat way I can connect further.
I can, I can use these extraheightened sensitivities to
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understand my world, to connectwith myself further, to
acknowledge when I have thisfeeling or this instinct about
careful on those stairs, whenyou're walking up them, carrie,
you might trip, and then I slowdown and I listened to those,
not sure if that answered yourquestion, lauren.
Lauren (14:47):
No, I mean it more than answered my question.
And also like it's such arespectful way to treat your
kids in in regard to like not,you know they don't want to be
controlled, so you're not tryingto like override it with more
control, because that doesn'twork.
Frank (15:08):
and what do you mean?
I mean, I heard every parenthas that that struggle, right
like that's yeah, no, it's sorelatable and as soon as like
close to bedtime strikes aroundour house, oh yeah oh, it gets
real, it is.
Lauren (15:24):
It's a nightmare.
Frank (15:26):
Yeah, and I always say like I hate that time and it's
the same thing with, like the we, we are just trying to keep
everybody on track so that theydon't.
You know, as a parent, I'm likeI don't want you guys to have a
bad day tomorrow because you'retired and grumpy.
Trying to get them to move inthe right direction.
Yeah, trying to get them tomove in the right direction
without an argument is close toimpossible.
(15:48):
So hearing that like having tolet go of the control element of
it, what do you do?
So what do you do?
Carrie (15:58):
You look at what is causing you as an adult to want
to control your child.
What were you not able tocontrol as a child in your own
childhood that you wish youcould have controlled?
You know, is there healing Forme?
I studied Reiki, so I loveReiki.
I'm going back to level two andso for me, I try to connect
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deeper during my meditation.
Sometimes I do intuitivejournaling, sometimes I do Reiki
and then I work on trying tofigure out what age it was when
something happened.
Or I just picture a littlecarry and I give myself Reiki to
heal myself.
In those times, what was itthat I was trying to control?
I'm trying to control.
Why do I get upset when my kidis like well, you said bedtime
(16:44):
was 730.
Why can't I do eight?
I'm almost 10, mom, why?
Frank (16:48):
do I have to be like, oh God, like what is it in?
Carrie (16:50):
me that erupts.
What is causing that?
That control piece?
Frank (16:58):
I know and then, like you're talking about, with the
kids these days, our kids toobeing super sensitive, you know,
like that, that anger, that toobeing super sensitive.
You know, like that, that angerthat you are feeling.
You know they're picking up onthat before you even say a word
or make a sound.
I can feel it yeah, I know it.
Yeah, and it triggers them andI.
Carrie (17:15):
I think it's interesting because, right, we have the
neurodiverse labels, we have thehighly sensitive child, we have
the gifted and talented.
Sometimes my husband and I havereceived labels for our kiddos
and then sometimes we just sitdown and we go are they just
gifted and talented and quirky?
Lauren (17:30):
Is this what a?
Carrie (17:31):
gifted and quirky kid looks like Like that.
That was probably us as kids.
We were quirky, introverted,gifted kids and, um, you know,
that's that's how our spiritreally shined was, um, looking
at these pieces, these—yeah, I'mnot sure where I'm going with
that, but when we're talkingabout these pieces, I've really
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learned that my kids, theyreally need to understand where
we're coming from.
So I explain a lot like this iswhy, like you said, we have to
go to bed early.
Because of this, but also like—Because they are empath kids,
there's so many tools that wecan be using with them.
My favorite lately has beendoing guided meditations with my
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almost seven-year-old.
We've been doing like lastnight we did an aligning chakras
guided meditation, wow.
The week before, we've beendoing exchanging energy, sending
the day's energy down through agreen tube into the earth,
where the earth absorbs it, andthen we saw that Kauai or not
(18:37):
Kauai, the big Island wasexploding and I was like, joking
around with my seven-year-old,like, do you think that it's all
of our energy we're sendinginto the earth?
Like she has to get it out.
That's what the earth is doing.
It's bubbling up.
So, yeah, that's what the earthis doing.
It's bubbling up, mom.
So, um, yeah, you know, like,like, um, actively talking about
their energy levels, activelysaying to them, drawing
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boundaries for ourselves.
Mom just took you to get newshoes.
Now you're asking me to do thisother thing with you.
I'm not energetically there,but I'm super tired.
Give me 10 minutes to layrecharge and then we can go and
do that with you.
So monitoring our own energylevels and teaching them with
being the example of that.
(19:19):
Yeah, and then yeah, when wewere talking about the, the
sensitivity piece, there's onethat I love using with my seven
and eight year old before theygo to school.
Uh, school is an intense place.
Frank (19:31):
Yeah.
Carrie (19:31):
These, these amazing kids, are trying to stay focused
, trying to I don't know ifyours is or your kiddos or other
kiddos are people pleasers, butthey're trying to be good in
their seat, not disrupt anything.
Um, it tends to happen withthese hypersensitive kids or
super sensitive kids.
So I love to do a white light.
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We picture it at the top of ourhead and it spirals around our
body all the way down to theground, and then we picture a
gold light spiraling around.
And then I've taught them.
They now recite it.
But we say no negative energyallowed, only positive energy.
And so now when the kids areleaving to go with dad in the
car or my husband, I'll say sayit white and gold light.
And then I'll hear them repeatno negative energy, only
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positive energy allowed.
We do that at night, at bed too.
Lauren (20:17):
But if you practice these things at bed like it gets
.
Carrie (20:20):
it gets shorter yeah.
Frank (20:22):
You know, like for a while there, especially when we
were dropping off our daughterat school, who's like very, very
sensitive we were doing like alittle bit of a, like a
protection mantra for her yeah,well, and also I had just
learned reiki, so I would haveher repeat with me like on the
way to school.
Lauren (20:39):
Just for today, I will not be angry, I will not worry,
um, I will be filled withgratitude and I will um, and I
will do my best and I will bekind to every being, including
and especially myself, andthere's something really
empowering about that.
Also, just paying attention toyour energy, I feel like adults
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who don't even have kids, thathaven't done as much energy work
Like I've.
I've posted things about it onsocial media and had, like you
(21:21):
know, adults like I'm 65 yearsold and I'm going to do this,
this thing too.
It's really important becausewe don't pay it as much
attention as we should.
Frank (21:26):
We do a car wash.
I love that one.
Energetic car wash, yes, yeah.
Lauren (21:30):
And and yeah, just anything that you can do to like
have your kids be aware ofwhat's going on in their body,
cause, like I mean, I wasn't asaware when I was a kid.
I was like just I would goinward and like not understand
why I was feeling upset or whyother people's energy was
(21:53):
affecting me so much.
At school I didn't have any ofthose tools, and I think that's
really helpful.
Frank (21:59):
This is really interesting to me right now
because you're making me realizenow that also when I was cause
I'm also an introvert, anddefinitely so as a kid when you
were feeling kind of off becauseof my lack of awareness of,
like you know, energeticinfluences, what you do
(22:20):
naturally as a person, as youturn inward, you make it about
what's wrong with me.
Lauren (22:23):
Right yeah.
Frank (22:25):
And and you're, I'm going to jump into full woo for a
second.
You know if we're talking abouthow on the show, we often talk
about you know your higher selfand all this stuff.
We have a mantra that we sayevery night here outside
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energies to say, hey, I knowthese little humans, they look
old to you energetically, butthey're just, they're babies and
they need to have a fullnight's rest.
So please kindly bug off.
And yes, and.
But now you're saying takingthat same like lesson into
parenting.
(23:06):
I can tell you that I have notbeen respecting my children as
aged, eternal beings, you know,and and when there's no reason
why they can't, wouldn't be ableto understand.
You have an energetic thinggoing on right now.
That's why you feel the way youdo.
I have an energetic thing goingon.
We're clashing, we're ondifferent frequencies.
Lauren (23:28):
Like we can make this work if we all just take a
second, you know yeah, the thething that you and I heard you
say it, I've heard you say it onyour podcast um, that do you.
I've heard other people saythis too, that the kids, kids
that are being born now or inthe last, what I don't know 15
(23:51):
years maybe, are more uh, notspecial, are more sensitive.
They're more like connected.
Where they're more connected,almost like people have said,
like they're here to kind ofhelp, like, yeah, us dumb, dumb
adults like ascend andunderstand, like we remember our
(24:16):
connection to yeah, I don'tspirit world or whatever I don't
know if you guys have heard ofstar seed.
Carrie (24:24):
Star seeds um, yes, or um, indigo children people can
take it or leave it, becauseit's an idea.
I think Dolores Cannon wrote alot about it.
She was a hypnotist and so shestarted to.
When she was doing the hypnosison people, she would start to
hear some of these messages, andso that's where I think
Starseed has come from from her,and then other people too, but
(24:47):
also new earth children there'smany terms for the same kind of
thing.
I was recently watching apresentation on YouTube.
I might have to send you guysthe link for it.
It's kind of interesting.
It was describing star seedchildren.
If you're drawn tounderstanding the universe, if
you feel like maybe you don'tbelong on earth, if you have
(25:08):
dreams of being on anotherplanet, that's the idea of star
seed children.
And then indigo children.
I believe Dolores Cannon hadmentioned the waves had started
coming in the late 50s, early60s, I think was when original
indigo children were coming andthey are coming with a passion
to help save the Earth.
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Basically, they can be verypassionate.
They oftentimes, I think, havelike blue eyes or bright round
eyes is an idea I think.
I've heard about indigo childrenand then crystal children is
one that I feel like might be me, and it's more of the light
worker, healer pieces of wantingto spread love, kindness,
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connect with others and helppeople to raise their energy
vibrations.
And I am wondering now this ismy idea is our people like us?
Maybe Indigo children, crystalor star seed?
Or new Earth?
Maybe our era?
Born in the 80s, 90s?
That's me.
Maybe we were here and we havebeen on this path in our own way
(26:17):
so that way we could raisethese kids.
This next era coming in and I'vebeen seeing it's getting
stronger with every generation,every generation like my mom was
definitely a change maker inher own way and did it.
Worked with kids and pediatricsas a nurse, and so she guided
me in her way to create me aswho I am, to help guide me in
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who I am, being open tospirituality Right.
So now I'm open, now I amunderstanding how to help my
kids stay connected.
I've been hearing I do a lot ofintuitive journaling.
I love doing that and I've beenhearing these kids coming.
Today we give them labelsbecause we don't know how to
describe them.
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We don't necessarily know how tohelp them, even with labels.
I've been to therapists andI've done a lot of OT and stuff
with my kiddos.
Like let's help them be intheir bodies, let's teach them
tools for when they feel overreactive in this world, when
they feel their impulse controlchallenges, how do we help them?
And I've gone through it somuch with my 10 year old and my
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almost seven year old thatpeople are now saying like well,
I think you've hit all thetherapy tools you've done.
Like you know some of thecognitive behavioral therapy,
some of the OT.
Like I think you've hit all thetherapy tools You've done.
Like you know some of thecognitive behavioral therapy,
some of the OT.
Like I think you have all thetools in your pocket.
I don't know what's left.
I'm like, well, okay, thank you, universe for telling me it's
now up to energy work, energyhealing.
You know these, these holistictechniques.
I'm looking at a classic recordsand um, all these pieces to
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help my kids to connect and Ikeep hearing from the universe
we need to help these kids,neurodiverse or not, highly
sensitive, empaths, born giftedand talented and quirky, help
these kids stay true to who theyare by teaching them how to
stay connected, teaching,empowering them with the gifts
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that they're born with, becauseotherwise, when they're so
sensitive, it can be easy to putthese layers of protection on
us as we're becoming adults.
I did that myself.
I put these layers ofprotection and then it was
through, like what I call myparenting spiritual awakening,
that I reconnected with myselfto then become a better parent,
(28:32):
and now I'm parenting my kidsfrom my heart, and my kids are
so much happier when I'm not myneurotic self.
Lauren (28:42):
I feel like that's some part of masking, though, too
right, Like we learn to.
How do I?
Frank (28:47):
fit in.
We learned how to conform.
Lauren (28:49):
Yeah, how do I fit in Our generation to conform?
Yeah, how do I fit in, how do Iseem more normal?
Frank (28:52):
I just turned 40.
You're 43.
Lauren (28:55):
Yeah, thanks, yeah, yeah , yeah, I'm adding up.
Frank (28:58):
The world knows now You're how old Roy?
Carrie (29:00):
80s babies?
Lauren (29:01):
Yes totally and masking.
Carrie (29:04):
that's a neurodiverse term.
But yeah, yeah, how but?
Yeah, many of us are justsensitive and masking, because
that's what this world wants usto be.
That's the box of a human thatI'm supposed to smile right now
and I'm supposed to put myselfout there to make friends, even
though I just want to like layin my corner and drink some chai
tea.
A cozy blanket, connect, anintuitive journal.
Frank (29:31):
Like yeah, that's a form of masking.
Yeah, so like 100 likedefinitely feels like the lesson
right now in raising kids inthis, in this period of time, is
is helping them connect totheir, their innate authenticity
and whatever they're all about,and showing them how that can
fit in anywhere.
Um, god, the I we talk about sofrequently, like how the
guardrails from when we weregrowing up it was that you must
(29:53):
stay in your lane and do notdeviate.
And now, like the way we'reraising our kids, it's like you
like that.
Let's go try it, let's go do it.
I don't know the first thingabout it, but I'm going to learn
with you.
Like that kind of thing, itseems so important.
Carrie (30:11):
So one of my phrases is change makers, raising change
makers right we're helping themto feel empowered enough to make
a change, and there's so manyof our 80s babies that are
making a change, breaking freeof the box yeah, stopping the,
the generational trauma, youknow, and almost like
(30:33):
reparenting ourselves.
Lauren (30:34):
I've heard that that term too.
So, for people who any of ourlisteners because this isn't a
parenting podcast um, I knowsome of our listeners aren't
parents how would you what'slike a good suggestion for
people who are like on theprecipice of like having kids?
(30:57):
But maybe you know if there'sany suggestion or recommendation
for those people who maybe needto do some of the inner work?
Carrie (31:08):
I mean being open to, to receiving challenges too.
Right that I know that soundscrazy.
Like my term for this year islight me up.
It's taking my challenges andthen being okay, seeing that I
need to learn, heal and growfrom these challenges.
So being okay with things beinghard and then accepting that we
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are always learning right.
We're never like I thought whenI was becoming a parent, like I
have this, I've got this, I'vealready studied six years for
this, I'm ready.
No, no, no, no, carrie, youwere just starting out Like this
was a huge transition and nomatter what transitioning you're
going through right Getting anew job, buying your first house
(31:54):
or, you know, moving in withsomebody, like whatever path
you're in and those in thosetransitions in your life
noticing your mind, body, spiritconnection.
How am I feeling in this moment?
Do I feel like this is a goodchange?
Am I completely fear-based inthis change?
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That mind-body connection issomething so helpful to
understand and that's somethingI've been teaching my kids too.
Is that mind-body connectionpiece and I can go into that
further.
But if we're focusing on theyounger generations right now,
journaling has been so amazing.
I had a person on my show thatreally specialized in inner
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guidance and it was amazing tohear like or not inner guidance,
sorry, inner child.
It was amazing to hear it's notgoing to be a one and done, fix
it.
It's learning to heal, grow,change.
It's learning to accept thosechallenges and then also seeing
how to tune into yourself.
Do you feel, do you feel asacral?
(33:02):
I don't know if you guys haveheard that term.
Do you hear a sacral, yes or no?
Do you, you know, and then usingthose sacral yes, sacral no, to
understand, like is theresomething I need to work on from
my childhood that's making thisworse is is there, um,
something I've learned to make,to heal and grow from in this
moment?
Um, and then a huge piece,especially for those 20 year
(33:26):
olds that can get outside.
Nature is huge, huge.
I mean, we don't have theresistant 10 year old not
wanting to go out in the snow soyou can connect so profoundly
when you're in nature, and myhighly sensitive kids, when we
can get them out into nature.
I've had my kid go from.
Oh, life is so intense.
(33:47):
This body, just mom's making meget outside and put shoes on
and I just want to lay here andwatch TV.
And then he's outside, walkingalong a river, going this is the
best day ever.
Yes, nature, that connection.
Take your shoes off, stand inthe sun for three minutes and
just breathe like connectingwith ourselves.
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You need that now and forever.
And once you learn it, yeah,you could be a spiritual guru.
You're still human, you'restill going to come back to that
brain, you're still going toget caught up in those moments.
So, understanding those piecesof what can bring you back your
spirituality, nature, sayingaffirmations and prayers,
(34:33):
looking at tuning in?
When do I need to work on someof those inner child healing?
When do I need to use whatmodalities do I like to help
myself reconnect?
Frank (34:40):
yeah, it's such a good point, great.
Just keep saying that, like,even if you're a spiritual guru,
you're gonna.
You got it, you got a humanbrain yeah, it's a.
It's a it's a sloppy, wet meatthing that you we used to think
out of and it's not great and,like you're never going to have
all the answers, it's a journeyYou're going to mess up,
especially when you have kids.
Carrie (34:59):
Man, you're going to mess up, it's rough, yeah, and
each phase that that kid isgoing to go through it can bring
up, like we said, that innerchild pieces.
Each phase, you know, you thinkyou get through the baby phase
You're like, oh God, they'resleeping through the night, like
I can recharge, and then a newphase comes.
Frank (35:20):
Let's say you don't have kids yet, but you're really, you
want to have kids one day.
You're preparing, um, thosemoments that you have that make
you feel uncomfortable, that youjust ignore those, those during
your, your personal challenges,that you just you push off to
the side, right that that stuffand I'm telling you everybody,
from my perspective now, thatstuff that you've pushed off,
(35:42):
that you think you don't have todeal with, those little things
are going to come back in theform of issues with your kids,
and not because of some, likespiritual, like crazy, like you
gave them your problems youmight have, but like they're
going to go through the samethings from a young age and you
are going to have to confrontthose.
And now the stakes are higher.
It's way better to deal and getyourself right in the moment.
(36:06):
So you've got to have that that.
What I've learned is calledinteroception.
You've got to have that innerawareness of your processes and
work through them Love that?
Carrie (36:15):
Yeah, it's that.
I mean interoception.
I haven't heard that term.
I love it.
Um, and I.
It's something.
The mind body connection iswhat I call it with my kids mind
body spirit.
Um, I've been teaching my kids.
I started to do some littleclips on YouTube for a while
because I feel like parents needlike ideas of how we can bring
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it down to a seven and a 10 yearold level.
And you know, even just whenwe're outside playing with chalk
and drawing in the driveway,I'll be like what color are you
drawn to?
Which one does your body feellike it needs right now?
And then I'll use an examplelike green.
Really I'm going to use thegreen.
Green makes me think of treesand grass, the breeze in the
(36:58):
summer, like just you know,relating it back to a spiritual
version, being in that momentand also teaching them that mind
, body, spirit connection andmaking choices and connecting
ourselves.
And then prayers andaffirmations has been one I feel
like a lot of my listeners havebeen really drawn to lately and
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a lot of my prayers I've beenteaching for parents and for
parents to use for themselves,for parents to use with their
kids or for adults to use foradults is, um, connecting
ourselves back to universe,spirit, god, whatever source,
whatever we believe in,connecting ourselves back so
that way we can see whateverchallenge we're going through in
(37:42):
the, in the positive version,we can switch our idea into.
I'm seeing this happen in theway that you help me make it
happen, but feeling ourselvesrealigned and reconnected and
trying to help kids so that theydon't have the subconscious
programming that a lot of ushave as adults.
Lauren (38:03):
So what's it like?
Do you have a?
Do you have like a few prayersor affirmations that you that
are go-tos?
Carrie (38:13):
And I don't actually.
I pull them up each day as I'mgoing through and you know my
favorite place to say them, soI'll come up with my own.
So you can use that structurelike thank you, god, universe
source, for helping me toreconnect with my heart's
desires so that I can pick mykids up and stay grounded today
(38:37):
after school.
Lauren (38:38):
That's nice.
Yeah, that's great.
Carrie (38:39):
Something like that.
And you know my favorite placeto say it as a parent this might
not reflect for everybody, butat pickup.
So I get there a little bitearly.
My kids, I have to drive thereto pick them up.
I sit in the car, I meditatefor a few minutes with my
sunglasses on so nobody knowswhat I'm doing in the car.
And then I texted texted myselfthat affirmation.
So I pull it up on my phone, Iread it out loud and then, you
(39:01):
know, I say it a couple of timesand then I meditate for another
minute and then I am empoweredenergetically.
I'm ready for whatever comesout of those doors, right?
Sometimes it's hey, mom, I wantto hug.
Sometimes it's oh, mom, why areyou like?
You know, you don't know what'scoming out after that day at
school.
Lauren (39:19):
Yeah, that's great.
Frank (39:21):
You know man, okay, the.
You were talking about, likeyou know, the backing up just a
second.
You were talking about backingup just a second subconscious
programming.
I was realizing that in thatmoment, when she said that, that
I sometimes refer to mysubconscious programming as
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being realistic.
But, in actuality, it's a deeppessimism.
I'm going to hear about thislater in this one.
Carrie (39:55):
Um, I think having affirmations to do.
Yeah, I mean.
Frank (39:58):
I mean deep realizations in front of my wife is very
dangerous sometimes, but it'sfine.
Lauren (40:04):
Um later like a little yeah.
Carrie (40:07):
A little witch Deep dive later.
Yeah, It'd be like taped onyour bathroom mirror.
Lauren (40:12):
Yeah Well, Frank have you said any affirmations lately
?
Frank (40:17):
Anyway, the, and then you're talking about like, like
doing these, these preparationsfor your yourself to like
basically have the, theenergetics room to be available
for whatever your kids mightbring into your energetic field,
right, yeah, you have to atleast give yourself, at the very
(40:48):
least, like a windows of like10 minutes at a time just to set
yourself straight.
If you feel like you got to dothis now.
There's no time for anything.
You have no time for your kidsand their emotions.
You're gonna, you're setting upa tower of cards that will fall
.
Lauren (41:06):
Yeah, they can feel that .
They can feel that.
They can feel that, man, you'relike, you know, kind of in your
head or you're in a rush andthey're like what I just had my
own day what's up with you, youknow, and they're not even
saying it.
They don't even know how, how,how to say it, because they
don't understand it yet, andespecially with kids, we're like
(41:27):
, you know, for various reasons.
Frank (41:31):
People say that, like you know, the older you get, time
seems like shorter right.
But, with kids every moment.
You know, relative to thelength of their lives, every
moment is the most importantmoment and just it only takes a
second to connect and I realizedwhen I, when I slow down and
just take that second to do whatyou're saying, putting myself
(41:53):
in the right mindset to addressand connect, it, can change the
day.
Carrie (41:58):
Yeah.
Frank (41:59):
It can change the day.
Carrie (42:00):
Understanding your energetic space and then also
like teaching like it's a Dan DrDan Siegel, it's one of the
child psychologists.
He recommends name it to tameit right Naming naming where you
are energetically sharing thatexample with your kids and then
also naming where they areenergetically being receptive to
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where they are.
Sometimes you have to letthings go, like maybe you don't
go to ninja tomorrow, ninjaclass in the afternoon and yes,
it's costly.
As a parent You're like, oh God, it goes 30 bucks.
But yeah, letting things gowhen you see your kids need to
recharge and they don't have thespace for it.
One thing somebody taught merecently which was really cool
(42:44):
was when our kids sometimes havethose moments of eruption, you
can ask them is this your energyor someone else's?
Frank (42:53):
yeah, yeah we say that all the time.
That's a big lauren question,these kids I learned about for
myself.
Lauren (43:01):
and then I started realizing, like you know, if I'm
empathic and frank's empathic,our kids obviously are too.
So you know, having them bereally aware of like wait, am I
carrying somebody else's stuffaround, it's been super helpful
and just empowering, especiallyour daughter, because she's
(43:22):
older, our son's three, um,empowering her to say like this
is not, these are not myemotions or I release anything
that doesn't belong to me, andthat's like a really helpful
empowering mantra to say Are youguys?
Carrie (43:38):
I um, I don't know if you guys have read psychic
psychology.
It's, I'm, I'm, oh gosh, I'mbeen dreaming it right now, and
it has a bunch of um guidedmeditations and it talks a lot
about energy work, and one ofthem is returning your kids
energy to themselves from youand then pulling your energy
(43:59):
from your kids for yourself, andit's recharging each person in
their own way.
It was really cool.
Frank (44:07):
That's great.
Oh, that's interesting.
Carrie (44:08):
Yeah.
Frank (44:09):
Psychic psychology.
Carrie (44:11):
Yeah, they use the idea of imagining a rose in front of
you and you picture the personsitting across from you and they
have a rose in front of them.
The rose is the opposite.
So, like my rose is in front ofmy kiddo, if I'm imagining my
kid and then I picture theenergy going on to that rose and
(44:36):
I picture my energy coming backonto the rose that's in front
of me, and then each personpicks up their own rose that's
in front of them, right?
So I pick up my rose that's atmy feet and I hold it and I
absorb my energy back into meand my kiddo absorbs their
energy back into them.
And some people are like, well,I'm supposed to be connected to
my kid, right, like you'restill connected, but it's
important to understand our ownenergy and for them to
understand their own energy andhow you know to to separate that
at times yeah, yeah, thatseparation has to occur,
(44:59):
especially when you are notbeing your best self and, in
certain moments, well, yeah, wealso say we have, we have our
daughter.
Lauren (45:08):
repeat, I call my energy back to me, but I really like
this visual of the rose.
That's so cool.
Carrie (45:16):
Yeah, yeah.
And then they said you pourgolden light back in to recharge
each person.
You picture it on them and onyou, so you're recharging every
cell in your body.
And then they always have youtip and invert to let out any
extra energy.
Frank (45:32):
Like a cup or something.
Carrie (45:34):
Yeah, like you're tipping the cup to pour out the
extra energy that you don't need.
Like you filled your body up.
Every cell in your body isfilled again and they don't use
that term, but my friend uses itin Qigong and I love it so
filling every cell back up andthen you pour out the extra
energy because you don't needthat.
It was interesting.
Lauren (45:54):
Huh, I like that there's some happening in this
conversation.
Carrie (46:02):
I love that book.
Lauren (46:05):
That's so cool.
Carrie (46:06):
Yeah, so yeah.
Lauren (46:09):
I mean, I feel like I'm going'm gonna, I'm gonna really
be thinking about the controlthing.
How, like certain kids just ourdaughter is like real, um, oh,
how do I not label it?
She's spirited, she's, she'sstrong-willed.
(46:29):
A bad thing to say yeah, isthat?
Carrie (46:31):
a bad label.
I say gifted, spirited andhighly sensitive is how I okay,
yeah, she, she likes to know therules.
Lauren (46:40):
She's, she's a little capricorn, so she likes to know
what the rules are.
Yeah, and she follows themreally well, especially at
school.
At home, she's like why?
and like I don't want to do thatright now she likes to look
under the hood like, yeahnothing, nothing at face value
yeah, but the idea of like,trying to rethink about it in
(47:02):
terms of like, how do I followyour flow a little bit better as
opposed to yeah?
Because when she was younger itwas like oh, we're, you know,
we're trying to like standardparenting, things of like, well,
if you don't do this, I'm gonnatake away this toy or whatever.
Frank (47:20):
And she it's so easy to fall back on too.
Carrie (47:22):
It's easy to go back to how.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know if youguys have done the choice of
two, so, like you, are theparent is the choice yeah, and
then also one that I've done islike the roomba is going to be
coming around today.
I'm going to set it up thisafternoon, so I really need you
to pick up your room by the timethe roomba gets there.
And you know, it wasinteresting because I was like
(47:45):
you need to pick up your room,I'm turning on the room button.
He was like, and then 10minutes later, I'm like I'm
going to try this again.
Um, can you have your roompicked up by the Roomba?
Yes, sir, yeah, mom, sure, okay, well, the Roomba is going to
come.
I'm going to turn it on thisafternoon, so you have that time
for you to get it done.
And as soon as I took off that,off that, it was like that
(48:09):
power, right, or yeah it waslike do it.
Like yeah, I challenge you topick up your room.
And as soon as that wasreleased it wasn't that
resistant.
Like, oh, I have to beat momdown, yeah.
Lauren (48:24):
I was like oh yeah.
Carrie (48:25):
I can do that, mom.
Yeah, whoa Okay.
So not having like you have todo it immediately, but like some
flexibility, like you are incharge of when you pick up your
room.
Lauren (48:35):
today it's so I love that.
Frank (48:38):
Here's here's like.
The big conundrum is that, likethe majority of our trauma as
adults comes from our lack ofautonomy that we had as kids.
And now that we are adults, weget to make certain choices and
then you have kids and like youdon't.
What's the balance betweenexpressing your own autonomy and
controlling them?
(48:59):
You know?
Lauren (49:00):
what I mean.
Frank (49:02):
I'm always, constantly, especially with the way the
things are going in the Statesright now.
I'm always like, oh, I reallydon't like authoritarianism, and
yet my house is.
I'm always expressing.
There's a clear hierarchy here,kids yeah you know what I mean
right, who are we?
Carrie (49:17):
a spirit to say that they are not here to teach us
too, yeah, that we know morethan them?
My kid can spout 85 facts aboutorcas.
I do not know.
So you know what ego?
Right, where is that ego comingfrom?
I'm powerful than more powerful, because I can drive a car and
(49:38):
you can't.
So maybe you've beenreincarnated way more than me,
maybe you know more, maybe youknow.
There's this idea of yeah.
And then I think there's oneother thing I forgot to share
with you guys is I really loveletting our kids find their
gifts and helping them to trydifferent things and helping
(50:00):
them to find what resonates intheir heart.
Yeah, so that was one otherthing I forgot to share today.
Frank (50:05):
No, I love that.
That's great, that's amazingyeah.
Lauren (50:08):
That's so funny, the soul thing.
Like our son is three and likeit's just he's so funny and he's
so.
He has so much personality andwe're like you have been on this
planet so many times Like he'sjust one of those you know.
They say old soul and we'relike, yeah, you know more than I
(50:29):
do.
Frank (50:30):
Clearly three years old I mean, we've talked to a psychic
who let me know that in ourfamily of four, I am the
youngest soul, which is funnybecause, yeah, but, and the
oldest being our youngest, ouryoungest son is supposed to be
the, the oldest of all of usyeah, that's beautiful I swear
the my daughter.
Lauren (50:49):
like when she was like two.
She would like have her herlike sippy cup of milk or
whatever and I'd lay on herchest and she'd like pet my hair
and I was like I swear she wasmy mom in another life or
something.
Oh, it's so true.
Carrie (51:05):
Those those um what is it called Soul families that?
Have been together for and whenI met my husband, it felt like
we knew each other forever.
It was like it felt like I camehome when I met him.
I've always had this feelingwith my daughter, who loves
animals, that we lived on a farmand I love one room
schoolhouses and I was a teacher, so I always was like we
must've been on a prairie atsome point.
(51:26):
Oh, that's fun.
Frank (51:27):
He loves farm animals and horses and would always yell
nay prairie at some point.
Carrie (51:28):
Oh, that's fun.
She loves farm animals andhorses and would always yell nay
, nay, when she was 18 monthsold.
So like it comes in.
But yeah.
I'm going to send you guys thatYouTube that talks about like
star seed and all of those.
I played it for my kids, andboth my kids and my husband.
All three of them were like Iwas a star seed.
And then I said what do youthink I was?
And they're all like everyonesaid Crystal, you're a crystal
(51:50):
child.
Oh wow.
Frank (51:51):
Oh that's fun.
Lauren (51:52):
Oh, that's yeah, We'll check that out.
Frank (51:54):
Maybe we'll post that for free on our Patreon too, so
everyone can see what we'retalking about?
Lauren (51:57):
Yeah, we'll link it.
Frank (51:58):
Cool.
Lauren (51:58):
Yeah, carrie.
Frank (52:01):
Go for it, babe.
Lauren (52:02):
Listen to Carrie's Heart to Heart Parents podcast and
follow on all of your socialmedias would tell us all of your
links.
Carrie (52:12):
Yeah, yeah.
So on all the social mediaYouTube, instagram, facebook I'm
heart to heart parents podcastand then my website is heart to
heart lifecom.
You can get to Apple, spotify,youtube Through those.
Lauren (52:25):
Amazing, awesome.
Thank you so much.
Frank (52:27):
Yeah, yeah.
Thank you so much for hangingout with us today.
Carrie (52:29):
Yes, guys, I hope you have a great rest of your day.
Lauren (52:32):
Thank you, you too, talk to you soon.
Frank (52:38):
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Carrie was.
She was great to talk to.
I got some you know what?
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implemented with our kids.
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Well, like as usual when it comes to information on how
to help raise your kids to behealthy people, you inevitably
run into some advice about howto just like take care of your
own inner child stuff that maybeyou didn't get around to or
wasn't done for you.
So, even if you're not a parent, there is advice in there for
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Yes, enjoy this episode, check out her podcast, but
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Yeah, let her rip.
Lauren (05:54):
Carrie, thank you so much for joining us on Clear
Voyaging.
We are so excited to talk alittle bit about parenting in
this episode.
So can you give a little bit ofyour backstory and tell us what
brought you here as host of theHeart to Heart Parents podcast?
Carrie (06:11):
Yeah, definitely so.
Thanks so much for having meguys.
I was raised spiritually.
I'll start out with that.
I was raised spiritually.
My grandmother is fromArgentina, and so my mom and my
grandmother both werespiritually connected their
whole lives, and I grew up goingto psychics and healers and
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raised with a positive mindset,looking for how we can change
our mindset from challenges intowhat are we meant to learn and
grow in this moment, as well asliving in the present moment,
not focusing on the future.
Having said all of that, westill come into life as a human,
which can be challenging,especially for a highly
sensitive person like me, and Idefinitely disconnected with a
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lot of it in my 20s as well asmy teenage years.
So when I became a parent, itreally helped me to find that
peace again.
I was trying to be this perfectin the box parent.
I was trying to read all of thebooks.
What to what to expect whenyou're expecting anything was
one of them which I should havethrown out the window, cause it
was really just fear-based, likeit really just brought out that
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here's everything that could gowrong, and I didn't realize
that I was such a person thatwould get into my head or trying
to fit the mold of being thisperfect mom.
So, luckily, I had spiritualpeople around me that they said
throw out the books, connectwith your heart.
Like stop trying to get yourkid on a sleep schedule, stop
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trying to make him eat at acertain time.
Follow your kid, connect withyour kid.
And I was bouncing on a yogaball in the closet one time,
looking down at my little guyand he had these bright blue
eyes with his little binky andhe was staring up at me like I'm
not going to go to sleep rightnow.
I have 85 sleep gadgets on.
Right now.
You're trying to make me go tosleep.
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I don't want to.
And I realized, like, follow mykid, connect with him.
He's going to show me how he,when he wants to eat, when he
wants to sleep, um, and this kidreally came in very spirited
and it really just rocked ourworld.
I was a formerly an educator andso I thought I've got this
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parenting thing.
Husband, you can just sit inthe back seat.
I've got this parenting thing,husband, you can just sit in the
back seat.
I've got it.
I'm driving the car, you don'tneed to worry.
I was made for this.
I was a speech therapist and ateacher and so, um, but when our
kid came in, he had thesebright, fluorescent, blue eyes.
They laid them on top of me andthey said my husband, um, he
connected with my eyes rightaway with these eyes, and I was
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like Whoa, what is this?
What?
is going on and my husband saidhe's beautiful Carrie.
And he turned and he lookeddirectly into my husband's eyes
and he was like what, what?
He's so alert and he hasn'tstopped being alert since.
He's just um.
And now our daughter is thesame way.
They both have this passion andthis zest and this energy for
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life.
So I started Heart to HeartParents.
As a former educator, Ioriginally started with wanting
to teach our kids mindful tools,especially neurodiverse kids
that are born with these amazinggifts but have a really hard
time with the heightenedsensitivity and being in the
human form, but have a reallyhard time with the heightened
sensitivity and being in thehuman form.
My kids were born connectedspiritually and wanting to learn
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about the world, and I'vewatched them have a hard time
being in the human form.
Just putting on snow pants is alot of screaming and a lot of
this is hard, mom, I hate this.
Why is life so hard?
And so teaching them thesetools including you know a lot
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of the sensory based tools butalso integrating these mindful
pieces of yes, your brain canget heavy, but I need you to
hear your heart, I need you tostay connected.
Yes, your soul can sometimes belike oh, this human form is why
is mom feeding me this greenstuff?
I don't want to eat this andjust wanting to disconnect from
their spirit and their soul.
So teaching them to regroundthemselves and also, as a highly
sensitive mom, teaching myselfto reground myself too.
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So it was a very long way ofhow I got here.
Lauren (10:19):
No, no, that's I mean.
It's perfect.
That's so great Also.
So how old are your kids now?
Carrie (10:25):
Yeah, so I have an almost seven year old daughter
and an almost 10 year old son.
Lauren (10:30):
Oh my gosh, we have a seven year old daughter too.
Carrie (10:33):
Okay, I love that era.
It's very fun.
It's one of my favorites.
It's really fun yeah.
Lauren (10:38):
Yeah, when you talk about like how sensitive your
kids are, what does that looklike?
Is it um, because I knoweveryone's talking about like
neurodiversity or just highlysensitive people?
Um, what does that look like inyour household?
Carrie (10:54):
Yeah, definitely.
Um.
So there is definitely thelabel piece, the medical piece
of getting that support, and Iwas a speech therapist so I
understand the therapy and theinsurance and all of those fun
pieces, those human form pieces,and so in our house we have
used labels to get extra supportand therapies from OTs.
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So there is the label piece andthen I'm finding oftentimes we
are almost using an umbrella oflabels to fit kids into because
we do not know how to help thesekids that are coming in.
They're so gifted and talented,their sensitivity systems are
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so heightened, they comespirited right, they come on a
mission.
I recently had a sorry, this isa little story, but I recently
had a family constellationsession.
I don't know if you guys havelooked into that, but we were
doing a it's.
The idea is the energy that isbrought down in different
generations of family and it cancause like, for example, one of
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my kids had some anger thatthey were going through and it
just kept coming up in all thesesituations and then it would
trigger some anger in me, and soduring our session we worked on
some anger that was in myfamily that was coming down.
It didn't even necessarily haveanything to do with me, but it
was coming down to me and thenalso my kiddo, and so we worked
on healing that during thatsession and that was helpful.
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In now, my son or my kiddo andmyself are getting so we stay
grounded and calm duringsituations that we may explode
in normally.
So that's the idea in thisfamily constellation.
So the facilitator, she wastelling me that these kids that
are born today in the familyconstellations idea, right now,
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in this era, they're coming inwith so many gifts and these
lives and souls missions that wecannot control them.
We can guide and facilitatetheir journey, but we cannot
control them.
And I feel like that is.
So my kids like, yeah, go cleanup right now.
Ah, my system is not ready.
Like, just this explosion oflike I can't handle that right
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now, mom.
I had a long day at school.
I had, you know, this explosionof like.
I can't handle that right now,mom.
I had a long day at school.
I had, you know I'm.
I have a scratchy throat rightnow.
Whatever the reasoning is,that's the sensitivity piece
that I'm talking about too is Ihave to monitor my kids and what
energy level they're at Ifthey've had a long day, if they
have been in school, usuallyright after school for my kids
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is not the time to ask them topick up their toys or to ask
them to clear off their desk.
So the sensitivity piece isdefinitely in the sensory system
.
Being a human, but also I'vebeen working with my kids a lot
to understand that, althoughthere are labels for these
sensitivities, which I do notshare with my kids ever the
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labels I'm working to empower mykids.
These heightened sensitivitiesso, um, like things can take
food, food can taste stronger tomy kids.
My husband has a really strongsense of smell, so when we were
looking at going to buy a house,he was like this house had a
cat, I can smell it, and theyreally like I don't smell it.
So in our house, theseheightened sensitivities.
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We call them superpowers,whereas, like an OT or somebody
in the therapy side, might belike well, your system, your
brain is overworking, you'rebeing overstimulated by this,
but we're looking at it as theseare gifts that that spirit, god
, universe, has given to me sothat way I can connect further.
I can, I can use these extraheightened sensitivities to
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understand my world, to connectwith myself further, to
acknowledge when I have thisfeeling or this instinct about
careful on those stairs, whenyou're walking up them, carrie,
you might trip, and then I slowdown and I listened to those,
not sure if that answered yourquestion, lauren.
Lauren (14:47):
No, I mean it more than answered my question.
And also like it's such arespectful way to treat your
kids in in regard to like not,you know they don't want to be
controlled, so you're not tryingto like override it with more
control, because that doesn'twork.
Frank (15:08):
and what do you mean?
I mean, I heard every parenthas that that struggle, right
like that's yeah, no, it's sorelatable and as soon as like
close to bedtime strikes aroundour house, oh yeah oh, it gets
real, it is.
Lauren (15:24):
It's a nightmare.
Frank (15:26):
Yeah, and I always say like I hate that time and it's
the same thing with, like the we, we are just trying to keep
everybody on track so that theydon't.
You know, as a parent, I'm likeI don't want you guys to have a
bad day tomorrow because you'retired and grumpy.
Trying to get them to move inthe right direction.
Yeah, trying to get them tomove in the right direction
without an argument is close toimpossible.
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So hearing that like having tolet go of the control element of
it, what do you do?
So what do you do?
Carrie (15:58):
You look at what is causing you as an adult to want
to control your child.
What were you not able tocontrol as a child in your own
childhood that you wish youcould have controlled?
You know, is there healing Forme?
I studied Reiki, so I loveReiki.
I'm going back to level two andso for me, I try to connect
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deeper during my meditation.
Sometimes I do intuitivejournaling, sometimes I do Reiki
and then I work on trying tofigure out what age it was when
something happened.
Or I just picture a littlecarry and I give myself Reiki to
heal myself.
In those times, what was itthat I was trying to control?
I'm trying to control.
Why do I get upset when my kidis like well, you said bedtime
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was 730.
Why can't I do eight?
I'm almost 10, mom, why?
Frank (16:48):
do I have to be like, oh God, like what is it in?
Carrie (16:50):
me that erupts.
What is causing that?
That control piece?
Frank (16:58):
I know and then, like you're talking about, with the
kids these days, our kids toobeing super sensitive, you know,
like that, that anger, that toobeing super sensitive.
You know, like that, that angerthat you are feeling.
You know they're picking up onthat before you even say a word
or make a sound.
I can feel it yeah, I know it.
Yeah, and it triggers them andI.
Carrie (17:15):
I think it's interesting because, right, we have the
neurodiverse labels, we have thehighly sensitive child, we have
the gifted and talented.
Sometimes my husband and I havereceived labels for our kiddos
and then sometimes we just sitdown and we go are they just
gifted and talented and quirky?
Lauren (17:30):
Is this what a?
Carrie (17:31):
gifted and quirky kid looks like Like that.
That was probably us as kids.
We were quirky, introverted,gifted kids and, um, you know,
that's that's how our spiritreally shined was, um, looking
at these pieces, these—yeah, I'mnot sure where I'm going with
that, but when we're talkingabout these pieces, I've really
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learned that my kids, theyreally need to understand where
we're coming from.
So I explain a lot like this iswhy, like you said, we have to
go to bed early.
Because of this, but also like—Because they are empath kids,
there's so many tools that wecan be using with them.
My favorite lately has beendoing guided meditations with my
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almost seven-year-old.
We've been doing like lastnight we did an aligning chakras
guided meditation, wow.
The week before, we've beendoing exchanging energy, sending
the day's energy down through agreen tube into the earth,
where the earth absorbs it, andthen we saw that Kauai or not
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Kauai, the big Island wasexploding and I was like, joking
around with my seven-year-old,like, do you think that it's all
of our energy we're sendinginto the earth?
Like she has to get it out.
That's what the earth is doing.
It's bubbling up.
So, yeah, that's what the earthis doing.
It's bubbling up, mom.
So, um, yeah, you know, like,like, um, actively talking about
their energy levels, activelysaying to them, drawing
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boundaries for ourselves.
Mom just took you to get newshoes.
Now you're asking me to do thisother thing with you.
I'm not energetically there,but I'm super tired.
Give me 10 minutes to layrecharge and then we can go and
do that with you.
So monitoring our own energylevels and teaching them with
being the example of that.
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Yeah, and then yeah, when wewere talking about the, the
sensitivity piece, there's onethat I love using with my seven
and eight year old before theygo to school.
Uh, school is an intense place.
Frank (19:31):
Yeah.
Carrie (19:31):
These, these amazing kids, are trying to stay focused
, trying to I don't know ifyours is or your kiddos or other
kiddos are people pleasers, butthey're trying to be good in
their seat, not disrupt anything.
Um, it tends to happen withthese hypersensitive kids or
super sensitive kids.
So I love to do a white light.
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We picture it at the top of ourhead and it spirals around our
body all the way down to theground, and then we picture a
gold light spiraling around.
And then I've taught them.
They now recite it.
But we say no negative energyallowed, only positive energy.
And so now when the kids areleaving to go with dad in the
car or my husband, I'll say sayit white and gold light.
And then I'll hear them repeatno negative energy, only
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positive energy allowed.
We do that at night, at bed too.
Lauren (20:17):
But if you practice these things at bed like it gets
.
Carrie (20:20):
it gets shorter yeah.
Frank (20:22):
You know, like for a while there, especially when we
were dropping off our daughterat school, who's like very, very
sensitive we were doing like alittle bit of a, like a
protection mantra for her yeah,well, and also I had just
learned reiki, so I would haveher repeat with me like on the
way to school.
Lauren (20:39):
Just for today, I will not be angry, I will not worry,
um, I will be filled withgratitude and I will um, and I
will do my best and I will bekind to every being, including
and especially myself, andthere's something really
empowering about that.
Also, just paying attention toyour energy, I feel like adults
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who don't even have kids, thathaven't done as much energy work
Like I've.
I've posted things about it onsocial media and had, like you
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know, adults like I'm 65 yearsold and I'm going to do this,
this thing too.
It's really important becausewe don't pay it as much
attention as we should.
Frank (21:26):
We do a car wash.
I love that one.
Energetic car wash, yes, yeah.
Lauren (21:30):
And and yeah, just anything that you can do to like
have your kids be aware ofwhat's going on in their body,
cause, like I mean, I wasn't asaware when I was a kid.
I was like just I would goinward and like not understand
why I was feeling upset or whyother people's energy was
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affecting me so much.
At school I didn't have any ofthose tools, and I think that's
really helpful.
Frank (21:59):
This is really interesting to me right now
because you're making me realizenow that also when I was cause
I'm also an introvert, anddefinitely so as a kid when you
were feeling kind of off becauseof my lack of awareness of,
like you know, energeticinfluences, what you do
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naturally as a person, as youturn inward, you make it about
what's wrong with me.
Lauren (22:23):
Right yeah.
Frank (22:25):
And and you're, I'm going to jump into full woo for a
second.
You know if we're talking abouthow on the show, we often talk
about you know your higher selfand all this stuff.
We have a mantra that we sayevery night here outside
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energies to say, hey, I knowthese little humans, they look
old to you energetically, butthey're just, they're babies and
they need to have a fullnight's rest.
So please kindly bug off.
And yes, and.
But now you're saying takingthat same like lesson into
parenting.
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I can tell you that I have notbeen respecting my children as
aged, eternal beings, you know,and and when there's no reason
why they can't, wouldn't be ableto understand.
You have an energetic thinggoing on right now.
That's why you feel the way youdo.
I have an energetic thing goingon.
We're clashing, we're ondifferent frequencies.
Lauren (23:28):
Like we can make this work if we all just take a
second, you know yeah, the thething that you and I heard you
say it, I've heard you say it onyour podcast um, that do you.
I've heard other people saythis too, that the kids, kids
that are being born now or inthe last, what I don't know 15
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years maybe, are more uh, notspecial, are more sensitive.
They're more like connected.
Where they're more connected,almost like people have said,
like they're here to kind ofhelp, like, yeah, us dumb, dumb
adults like ascend andunderstand, like we remember our
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connection to yeah, I don'tspirit world or whatever I don't
know if you guys have heard ofstar seed.
Carrie (24:24):
Star seeds um, yes, or um, indigo children people can
take it or leave it, becauseit's an idea.
I think Dolores Cannon wrote alot about it.
She was a hypnotist and so shestarted to.
When she was doing the hypnosison people, she would start to
hear some of these messages, andso that's where I think
Starseed has come from from her,and then other people too, but
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also new earth children there'smany terms for the same kind of
thing.
I was recently watching apresentation on YouTube.
I might have to send you guysthe link for it.
It's kind of interesting.
It was describing star seedchildren.
If you're drawn tounderstanding the universe, if
you feel like maybe you don'tbelong on earth, if you have
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dreams of being on anotherplanet, that's the idea of star
seed children.
And then indigo children.
I believe Dolores Cannon hadmentioned the waves had started
coming in the late 50s, early60s, I think was when original
indigo children were coming andthey are coming with a passion
to help save the Earth.
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Basically, they can be verypassionate.
They oftentimes, I think, havelike blue eyes or bright round
eyes is an idea I think.
I've heard about indigo childrenand then crystal children is
one that I feel like might be me, and it's more of the light
worker, healer pieces of wantingto spread love, kindness,
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connect with others and helppeople to raise their energy
vibrations.
And I am wondering now this ismy idea is our people like us?
Maybe Indigo children, crystalor star seed?
Or new Earth?
Maybe our era?
Born in the 80s, 90s?
That's me.
Maybe we were here and we havebeen on this path in our own way
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so that way we could raisethese kids.
This next era coming in and I'vebeen seeing it's getting
stronger with every generation,every generation like my mom was
definitely a change maker inher own way and did it.
Worked with kids and pediatricsas a nurse, and so she guided
me in her way to create me aswho I am, to help guide me in
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who I am, being open tospirituality Right.
So now I'm open, now I amunderstanding how to help my
kids stay connected.
I've been hearing I do a lot ofintuitive journaling.
I love doing that and I've beenhearing these kids coming.
Today we give them labelsbecause we don't know how to
describe them.
(27:01):
We don't necessarily know how tohelp them, even with labels.
I've been to therapists andI've done a lot of OT and stuff
with my kiddos.
Like let's help them be intheir bodies, let's teach them
tools for when they feel overreactive in this world, when
they feel their impulse controlchallenges, how do we help them?
And I've gone through it somuch with my 10 year old and my
(27:23):
almost seven year old thatpeople are now saying like well,
I think you've hit all thetherapy tools you've done.
Like you know some of thecognitive behavioral therapy,
some of the OT.
Like I think you've hit all thetherapy tools You've done.
Like you know some of thecognitive behavioral therapy,
some of the OT.
Like I think you have all thetools in your pocket.
I don't know what's left.
I'm like, well, okay, thank you, universe for telling me it's
now up to energy work, energyhealing.
You know these, these holistictechniques.
I'm looking at a classic recordsand um, all these pieces to
(27:47):
help my kids to connect and Ikeep hearing from the universe
we need to help these kids,neurodiverse or not, highly
sensitive, empaths, born giftedand talented and quirky, help
these kids stay true to who theyare by teaching them how to
stay connected, teaching,empowering them with the gifts
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that they're born with, becauseotherwise, when they're so
sensitive, it can be easy to putthese layers of protection on
us as we're becoming adults.
I did that myself.
I put these layers ofprotection and then it was
through, like what I call myparenting spiritual awakening,
that I reconnected with myselfto then become a better parent,
(28:32):
and now I'm parenting my kidsfrom my heart, and my kids are
so much happier when I'm not myneurotic self.
Lauren (28:42):
I feel like that's some part of masking, though, too
right, Like we learn to.
How do I?
Frank (28:47):
fit in.
We learned how to conform.
Lauren (28:49):
Yeah, how do I fit in Our generation to conform?
Yeah, how do I fit in, how do Iseem more normal?
Frank (28:52):
I just turned 40.
You're 43.
Lauren (28:55):
Yeah, thanks, yeah, yeah , yeah, I'm adding up.
Frank (28:58):
The world knows now You're how old Roy?
Carrie (29:00):
80s babies?
Lauren (29:01):
Yes totally and masking.
Carrie (29:04):
that's a neurodiverse term.
But yeah, yeah, how but?
Yeah, many of us are justsensitive and masking, because
that's what this world wants usto be.
That's the box of a human thatI'm supposed to smile right now
and I'm supposed to put myselfout there to make friends, even
though I just want to like layin my corner and drink some chai
tea.
A cozy blanket, connect, anintuitive journal.
Frank (29:31):
Like yeah, that's a form of masking.
Yeah, so like 100 likedefinitely feels like the lesson
right now in raising kids inthis, in this period of time, is
is helping them connect totheir, their innate authenticity
and whatever they're all about,and showing them how that can
fit in anywhere.
Um, god, the I we talk about sofrequently, like how the
guardrails from when we weregrowing up it was that you must
(29:53):
stay in your lane and do notdeviate.
And now, like the way we'reraising our kids, it's like you
like that.
Let's go try it, let's go do it.
I don't know the first thingabout it, but I'm going to learn
with you.
Like that kind of thing, itseems so important.
Carrie (30:11):
So one of my phrases is change makers, raising change
makers right we're helping themto feel empowered enough to make
a change, and there's so manyof our 80s babies that are
making a change, breaking freeof the box yeah, stopping the,
the generational trauma, youknow, and almost like
(30:33):
reparenting ourselves.
Lauren (30:34):
I've heard that that term too.
So, for people who any of ourlisteners because this isn't a
parenting podcast um, I knowsome of our listeners aren't
parents how would you what'slike a good suggestion for
people who are like on theprecipice of like having kids?
(30:57):
But maybe you know if there'sany suggestion or recommendation
for those people who maybe needto do some of the inner work?
Carrie (31:08):
I mean being open to, to receiving challenges too.
Right that I know that soundscrazy.
Like my term for this year islight me up.
It's taking my challenges andthen being okay, seeing that I
need to learn, heal and growfrom these challenges.
So being okay with things beinghard and then accepting that we
(31:31):
are always learning right.
We're never like I thought whenI was becoming a parent, like I
have this, I've got this, I'vealready studied six years for
this, I'm ready.
No, no, no, no, carrie, youwere just starting out Like this
was a huge transition and nomatter what transitioning you're
going through right Getting anew job, buying your first house
(31:54):
or, you know, moving in withsomebody, like whatever path
you're in and those in thosetransitions in your life
noticing your mind, body, spiritconnection.
How am I feeling in this moment?
Do I feel like this is a goodchange?
Am I completely fear-based inthis change?
(32:15):
That mind-body connection issomething so helpful to
understand and that's somethingI've been teaching my kids too.
Is that mind-body connectionpiece and I can go into that
further.
But if we're focusing on theyounger generations right now,
journaling has been so amazing.
I had a person on my show thatreally specialized in inner
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guidance and it was amazing tohear like or not inner guidance,
sorry, inner child.
It was amazing to hear it's notgoing to be a one and done, fix
it.
It's learning to heal, grow,change.
It's learning to accept thosechallenges and then also seeing
how to tune into yourself.
Do you feel, do you feel asacral?
(33:02):
I don't know if you guys haveheard that term.
Do you hear a sacral, yes or no?
Do you, you know, and then usingthose sacral yes, sacral no, to
understand, like is theresomething I need to work on from
my childhood that's making thisworse is is there, um,
something I've learned to make,to heal and grow from in this
moment?
Um, and then a huge piece,especially for those 20 year
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olds that can get outside.
Nature is huge, huge.
I mean, we don't have theresistant 10 year old not
wanting to go out in the snow soyou can connect so profoundly
when you're in nature, and myhighly sensitive kids, when we
can get them out into nature.
I've had my kid go from.
Oh, life is so intense.
(33:47):
This body, just mom's making meget outside and put shoes on
and I just want to lay here andwatch TV.
And then he's outside, walkingalong a river, going this is the
best day ever.
Yes, nature, that connection.
Take your shoes off, stand inthe sun for three minutes and
just breathe like connectingwith ourselves.
(34:09):
You need that now and forever.
And once you learn it, yeah,you could be a spiritual guru.
You're still human, you'restill going to come back to that
brain, you're still going toget caught up in those moments.
So, understanding those piecesof what can bring you back your
spirituality, nature, sayingaffirmations and prayers,
(34:33):
looking at tuning in?
When do I need to work on someof those inner child healing?
When do I need to use whatmodalities do I like to help
myself reconnect?
Frank (34:40):
yeah, it's such a good point, great.
Just keep saying that, like,even if you're a spiritual guru,
you're gonna.
You got it, you got a humanbrain yeah, it's a.
It's a it's a sloppy, wet meatthing that you we used to think
out of and it's not great and,like you're never going to have
all the answers, it's a journeyYou're going to mess up,
especially when you have kids.
Carrie (34:59):
Man, you're going to mess up, it's rough, yeah, and
each phase that that kid isgoing to go through it can bring
up, like we said, that innerchild pieces.
Each phase, you know, you thinkyou get through the baby phase
You're like, oh God, they'resleeping through the night, like
I can recharge, and then a newphase comes.
Frank (35:20):
Let's say you don't have kids yet, but you're really, you
want to have kids one day.
You're preparing, um, thosemoments that you have that make
you feel uncomfortable, that youjust ignore those, those during
your, your personal challenges,that you just you push off to
the side, right that that stuffand I'm telling you everybody,
from my perspective now, thatstuff that you've pushed off,
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that you think you don't have todeal with, those little things
are going to come back in theform of issues with your kids,
and not because of some, likespiritual, like crazy, like you
gave them your problems youmight have, but like they're
going to go through the samethings from a young age and you
are going to have to confrontthose.
And now the stakes are higher.
It's way better to deal and getyourself right in the moment.
(36:06):
So you've got to have that that.
What I've learned is calledinteroception.
You've got to have that innerawareness of your processes and
work through them Love that?
Carrie (36:15):
Yeah, it's that.
I mean interoception.
I haven't heard that term.
I love it.
Um, and I.
It's something.
The mind body connection iswhat I call it with my kids mind
body spirit.
Um, I've been teaching my kids.
I started to do some littleclips on YouTube for a while
because I feel like parents needlike ideas of how we can bring
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it down to a seven and a 10 yearold level.
And you know, even just whenwe're outside playing with chalk
and drawing in the driveway,I'll be like what color are you
drawn to?
Which one does your body feellike it needs right now?
And then I'll use an examplelike green.
Really I'm going to use thegreen.
Green makes me think of treesand grass, the breeze in the
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summer, like just you know,relating it back to a spiritual
version, being in that momentand also teaching them that mind
, body, spirit connection andmaking choices and connecting
ourselves.
And then prayers andaffirmations has been one I feel
like a lot of my listeners havebeen really drawn to lately and
(37:22):
a lot of my prayers I've beenteaching for parents and for
parents to use for themselves,for parents to use with their
kids or for adults to use foradults is, um, connecting
ourselves back to universe,spirit, god, whatever source,
whatever we believe in,connecting ourselves back so
that way we can see whateverchallenge we're going through in
(37:42):
the, in the positive version,we can switch our idea into.
I'm seeing this happen in theway that you help me make it
happen, but feeling ourselvesrealigned and reconnected and
trying to help kids so that theydon't have the subconscious
programming that a lot of ushave as adults.
Lauren (38:03):
So what's it like?
Do you have a?
Do you have like a few prayersor affirmations that you that
are go-tos?
Carrie (38:13):
And I don't actually.
I pull them up each day as I'mgoing through and you know my
favorite place to say them, soI'll come up with my own.
So you can use that structurelike thank you, god, universe
source, for helping me toreconnect with my heart's
desires so that I can pick mykids up and stay grounded today
(38:37):
after school.
Lauren (38:38):
That's nice.
Yeah, that's great.
Carrie (38:39):
Something like that.
And you know my favorite placeto say it as a parent this might
not reflect for everybody, butat pickup.
So I get there a little bitearly.
My kids, I have to drive thereto pick them up.
I sit in the car, I meditatefor a few minutes with my
sunglasses on so nobody knowswhat I'm doing in the car.
And then I texted texted myselfthat affirmation.
So I pull it up on my phone, Iread it out loud and then, you
(39:01):
know, I say it a couple of timesand then I meditate for another
minute and then I am empoweredenergetically.
I'm ready for whatever comesout of those doors, right?
Sometimes it's hey, mom, I wantto hug.
Sometimes it's oh, mom, why areyou like?
You know, you don't know what'scoming out after that day at
school.
Lauren (39:19):
Yeah, that's great.
Frank (39:21):
You know man, okay, the.
You were talking about, likeyou know, the backing up just a
second.
You were talking about backingup just a second subconscious
programming.
I was realizing that in thatmoment, when she said that, that
I sometimes refer to mysubconscious programming as
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being realistic.
But, in actuality, it's a deeppessimism.
I'm going to hear about thislater in this one.
Carrie (39:55):
Um, I think having affirmations to do.
Yeah, I mean.
Frank (39:58):
I mean deep realizations in front of my wife is very
dangerous sometimes, but it'sfine.
Lauren (40:04):
Um later like a little yeah.
Carrie (40:07):
A little witch Deep dive later.
Yeah, It'd be like taped onyour bathroom mirror.
Lauren (40:12):
Yeah Well, Frank have you said any affirmations lately
?
Frank (40:17):
Anyway, the, and then you're talking about like, like
doing these, these preparationsfor your yourself to like
basically have the, theenergetics room to be available
for whatever your kids mightbring into your energetic field,
right, yeah, you have to atleast give yourself, at the very
(40:48):
least, like a windows of like10 minutes at a time just to set
yourself straight.
If you feel like you got to dothis now.
There's no time for anything.
You have no time for your kidsand their emotions.
You're gonna, you're setting upa tower of cards that will fall
.
Lauren (41:06):
Yeah, they can feel that .
They can feel that.
They can feel that, man, you'relike, you know, kind of in your
head or you're in a rush andthey're like what I just had my
own day what's up with you, youknow, and they're not even
saying it.
They don't even know how, how,how to say it, because they
don't understand it yet, andespecially with kids, we're like
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, you know, for various reasons.
Frank (41:31):
People say that, like you know, the older you get, time
seems like shorter right.
But, with kids every moment.
You know, relative to thelength of their lives, every
moment is the most importantmoment and just it only takes a
second to connect and I realizedwhen I, when I slow down and
just take that second to do whatyou're saying, putting myself
(41:53):
in the right mindset to addressand connect, it, can change the
day.
Carrie (41:58):
Yeah.
Frank (41:59):
It can change the day.
Carrie (42:00):
Understanding your energetic space and then also
like teaching like it's a Dan DrDan Siegel, it's one of the
child psychologists.
He recommends name it to tameit right Naming naming where you
are energetically sharing thatexample with your kids and then
also naming where they areenergetically being receptive to
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where they are.
Sometimes you have to letthings go, like maybe you don't
go to ninja tomorrow, ninjaclass in the afternoon and yes,
it's costly.
As a parent You're like, oh God, it goes 30 bucks.
But yeah, letting things gowhen you see your kids need to
recharge and they don't have thespace for it.
One thing somebody taught merecently which was really cool
(42:44):
was when our kids sometimes havethose moments of eruption, you
can ask them is this your energyor someone else's?
Frank (42:53):
yeah, yeah we say that all the time.
That's a big lauren question,these kids I learned about for
myself.
Lauren (43:01):
and then I started realizing, like you know, if I'm
empathic and frank's empathic,our kids obviously are too.
So you know, having them bereally aware of like wait, am I
carrying somebody else's stuffaround, it's been super helpful
and just empowering, especiallyour daughter, because she's
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older, our son's three, um,empowering her to say like this
is not, these are not myemotions or I release anything
that doesn't belong to me, andthat's like a really helpful
empowering mantra to say Are youguys?
Carrie (43:38):
I um, I don't know if you guys have read psychic
psychology.
It's, I'm, I'm, oh gosh, I'mbeen dreaming it right now, and
it has a bunch of um guidedmeditations and it talks a lot
about energy work, and one ofthem is returning your kids
energy to themselves from youand then pulling your energy
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from your kids for yourself, andit's recharging each person in
their own way.
It was really cool.
Frank (44:07):
That's great.
Oh, that's interesting.
Carrie (44:08):
Yeah.
Frank (44:09):
Psychic psychology.
Carrie (44:11):
Yeah, they use the idea of imagining a rose in front of
you and you picture the personsitting across from you and they
have a rose in front of them.
The rose is the opposite.
So, like my rose is in front ofmy kiddo, if I'm imagining my
kid and then I picture theenergy going on to that rose and
(44:36):
I picture my energy coming backonto the rose that's in front
of me, and then each personpicks up their own rose that's
in front of them, right?
So I pick up my rose that's atmy feet and I hold it and I
absorb my energy back into meand my kiddo absorbs their
energy back into them.
And some people are like, well,I'm supposed to be connected to
my kid, right, like you'restill connected, but it's
important to understand our ownenergy and for them to
understand their own energy andhow you know to to separate that
at times yeah, yeah, thatseparation has to occur,
(44:59):
especially when you are notbeing your best self and, in
certain moments, well, yeah, wealso say we have, we have our
daughter.
Lauren (45:08):
repeat, I call my energy back to me, but I really like
this visual of the rose.
That's so cool.
Carrie (45:16):
Yeah, yeah.
And then they said you pourgolden light back in to recharge
each person.
You picture it on them and onyou, so you're recharging every
cell in your body.
And then they always have youtip and invert to let out any
extra energy.
Frank (45:32):
Like a cup or something.
Carrie (45:34):
Yeah, like you're tipping the cup to pour out the
extra energy that you don't need.
Like you filled your body up.
Every cell in your body isfilled again and they don't use
that term, but my friend uses itin Qigong and I love it so
filling every cell back up andthen you pour out the extra
energy because you don't needthat.
It was interesting.
Lauren (45:54):
Huh, I like that there's some happening in this
conversation.
Carrie (46:02):
I love that book.
Lauren (46:05):
That's so cool.
Carrie (46:06):
Yeah, so yeah.
Lauren (46:09):
I mean, I feel like I'm going'm gonna, I'm gonna really
be thinking about the controlthing.
How, like certain kids just ourdaughter is like real, um, oh,
how do I not label it?
She's spirited, she's, she'sstrong-willed.
(46:29):
A bad thing to say yeah, isthat?
Carrie (46:31):
a bad label.
I say gifted, spirited andhighly sensitive is how I okay,
yeah, she, she likes to know therules.
Lauren (46:40):
She's, she's a little capricorn, so she likes to know
what the rules are.
Yeah, and she follows themreally well, especially at
school.
At home, she's like why?
and like I don't want to do thatright now she likes to look
under the hood like, yeahnothing, nothing at face value
yeah, but the idea of like,trying to rethink about it in
(47:02):
terms of like, how do I followyour flow a little bit better as
opposed to yeah?
Because when she was younger itwas like oh, we're, you know,
we're trying to like standardparenting, things of like, well,
if you don't do this, I'm gonnatake away this toy or whatever.
Frank (47:20):
And she it's so easy to fall back on too.
Carrie (47:22):
It's easy to go back to how.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know if youguys have done the choice of
two, so, like you, are theparent is the choice yeah, and
then also one that I've done islike the roomba is going to be
coming around today.
I'm going to set it up thisafternoon, so I really need you
to pick up your room by the timethe roomba gets there.
And you know, it wasinteresting because I was like
(47:45):
you need to pick up your room,I'm turning on the room button.
He was like, and then 10minutes later, I'm like I'm
going to try this again.
Um, can you have your roompicked up by the Roomba?
Yes, sir, yeah, mom, sure, okay, well, the Roomba is going to
come.
I'm going to turn it on thisafternoon, so you have that time
for you to get it done.
And as soon as I took off that,off that, it was like that
(48:09):
power, right, or yeah it waslike do it.
Like yeah, I challenge you topick up your room.
And as soon as that wasreleased it wasn't that
resistant.
Like, oh, I have to beat momdown, yeah.
Lauren (48:24):
I was like oh yeah.
Carrie (48:25):
I can do that, mom.
Yeah, whoa Okay.
So not having like you have todo it immediately, but like some
flexibility, like you are incharge of when you pick up your
room.
Lauren (48:35):
today it's so I love that.
Frank (48:38):
Here's here's like.
The big conundrum is that, likethe majority of our trauma as
adults comes from our lack ofautonomy that we had as kids.
And now that we are adults, weget to make certain choices and
then you have kids and like youdon't.
What's the balance betweenexpressing your own autonomy and
controlling them?
(48:59):
You know?
Lauren (49:00):
what I mean.
Frank (49:02):
I'm always, constantly, especially with the way the
things are going in the Statesright now.
I'm always like, oh, I reallydon't like authoritarianism, and
yet my house is.
I'm always expressing.
There's a clear hierarchy here,kids yeah you know what I mean
right, who are we?
Carrie (49:17):
a spirit to say that they are not here to teach us
too, yeah, that we know morethan them?
My kid can spout 85 facts aboutorcas.
I do not know.
So you know what ego?
Right, where is that ego comingfrom?
I'm powerful than more powerful, because I can drive a car and
(49:38):
you can't.
So maybe you've beenreincarnated way more than me,
maybe you know more, maybe youknow.
There's this idea of yeah.
And then I think there's oneother thing I forgot to share
with you guys is I really loveletting our kids find their
gifts and helping them to trydifferent things and helping
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them to find what resonates intheir heart.
Yeah, so that was one otherthing I forgot to share today.
Frank (50:05):
No, I love that.
That's great, that's amazingyeah.
Lauren (50:08):
That's so funny, the soul thing.
Like our son is three and likeit's just he's so funny and he's
so.
He has so much personality andwe're like you have been on this
planet so many times Like he'sjust one of those you know.
They say old soul and we'relike, yeah, you know more than I
(50:29):
do.
Frank (50:30):
Clearly three years old I mean, we've talked to a psychic
who let me know that in ourfamily of four, I am the
youngest soul, which is funnybecause, yeah, but, and the
oldest being our youngest, ouryoungest son is supposed to be
the, the oldest of all of usyeah, that's beautiful I swear
the my daughter.
Lauren (50:49):
like when she was like two.
She would like have her herlike sippy cup of milk or
whatever and I'd lay on herchest and she'd like pet my hair
and I was like I swear she wasmy mom in another life or
something.
Oh, it's so true.
Carrie (51:05):
Those those um what is it called Soul families that?
Have been together for and whenI met my husband, it felt like
we knew each other forever.
It was like it felt like I camehome when I met him.
I've always had this feelingwith my daughter, who loves
animals, that we lived on a farmand I love one room
schoolhouses and I was a teacher, so I always was like we
must've been on a prairie atsome point.
(51:26):
Oh, that's fun.
Frank (51:27):
He loves farm animals and horses and would always yell
nay prairie at some point.
Carrie (51:28):
Oh, that's fun.
She loves farm animals andhorses and would always yell nay
, nay, when she was 18 monthsold.
So like it comes in.
But yeah.
I'm going to send you guys thatYouTube that talks about like
star seed and all of those.
I played it for my kids, andboth my kids and my husband.
All three of them were like Iwas a star seed.
And then I said what do youthink I was?
And they're all like everyonesaid Crystal, you're a crystal
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child.
Oh wow.
Frank (51:51):
Oh that's fun.
Lauren (51:52):
Oh, that's yeah, We'll check that out.
Frank (51:54):
Maybe we'll post that for free on our Patreon too, so
everyone can see what we'retalking about?
Lauren (51:57):
Yeah, we'll link it.
Frank (51:58):
Cool.
Lauren (51:58):
Yeah, carrie.
Frank (52:01):
Go for it, babe.
Lauren (52:02):
Listen to Carrie's Heart to Heart Parents podcast and
follow on all of your socialmedias would tell us all of your
links.
Carrie (52:12):
Yeah, yeah.
So on all the social mediaYouTube, instagram, facebook I'm
heart to heart parents podcastand then my website is heart to
heart lifecom.
You can get to Apple, spotify,youtube Through those.
Lauren (52:25):
Amazing, awesome.
Thank you so much.
Frank (52:27):
Yeah, yeah.
Thank you so much for hangingout with us today.
Carrie (52:29):
Yes, guys, I hope you have a great rest of your day.
Lauren (52:32):
Thank you, you too, talk to you soon.
Frank (52:38):
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