February 20, 2025 • 61 mins
Join us as we chat with Aaron Harris, a psychic medium and grief companion, who shares his compelling journey from numbing pain with substances to embracing his calling as a medium. Aaron recounts the pivotal moment while editing a documentary about a young man named Tyler, where he received and shared spirit messages that validated his abilities and changed the course of his life. This transformation led him to use his gifts to comfort those grappling with grief, offering insights into the support and healing he provides.
Our conversation delves deeper into mediumship's fascinating intersection with brain science and intuition. Aaron shares how trauma might unlock psychic potentials, suggesting that everyone harbors intuitive gifts waiting to be tapped. We explore the enigmatic connection between brain lateralization and medium activities, shedding light on the universal nature of intuition and practical ways to engage the brain's creative side. With personal anecdotes, Aaron illustrates how overthinking can hinder intuition and offers creative approaches to harness these inner abilities, from music and editing to even building with Legos.
We explore the delicate dynamics of spiritual guidance and the unique roles of spirit guides and ancestral connections, and Aaron explains how cultural and ancestral influences shape his spiritual practice. Tune in to this profound exploration of how spiritual practices can foster personal growth, support in caregiving, and offer healing guidance through life’s challenging transformations.
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Lauren (00:01):
Hello, in this episode we talked to Aaron Harris, a
psychic medium and griefcompanion.
We talked about his spiritguides, the work he does with
clients experiencing grief andhis journey to mediumship, which
is a beautiful story.
I'm Lauren Leon.
Frank (00:16):
And I'm Frank.
Lauren (00:17):
We are a married couple learning how to develop our own
intuition, and this is episode62 of Clear Voyaging our own
intuition.
And this is episode 62 ofclaire voyaging.
Frank (00:31):
Wayfeather media presents claire voyaging what's going on
, hey everybody, how we doingtoday I hope you're having a
great day I hope you had a greatweek thus far yes, I hope it's
(00:54):
wonderful and I hope you arewonderful.
Lauren (00:56):
That's a lot of hopes and it's all for you we wish the
best for you, and nothing less.
Frank (01:04):
Welcome back.
Lauren (01:04):
Guys, we have a good episode today.
Frank (01:07):
We do have a very nice episode, I mean they're all
great.
Lauren (01:10):
All our guests have been incredible.
Not a clunker in the bunch.
Frank (01:15):
Wow.
Lauren (01:17):
Do they say that?
Frank (01:18):
No, clunker, I don't think so.
Lauren (01:19):
Okay, well, I mean, we just have these.
Guests are amazing, it's beengreat.
Today it's Aaron Harris.
But before we get to that, Iwant to remind you that there
are some new little bits on ourPatreon.
Some of them are free foreverybody and some are for the
paid members, our patrons.
(01:41):
How?
Frank (01:45):
much is that.
Lauren (01:48):
Are you sure you want to know?
I don't, just I know.
Okay, it's four dollars permonth.
How many of you are tired ofhearing that?
Frank (01:54):
oh, he's gonna do the thing again oh, it's that one
again that sucks.
Did you?
Did you know?
Lauren (01:59):
this is the worst part of every episode the intro no me
, oh just frank is the worstpart of every episode.
The intro no me, oh, just frankis the worst part of every
episode anyway don't talk aboutyourself.
That way, frank's been gettingnotes from his dad.
Don't talk bad about yourself.
Frank (02:18):
That's true.
That's true.
He's only been saying it for 40years.
Lauren (02:22):
It's true, I mean you gotta listen at some point.
Frank (02:25):
We've got a nice episode today.
Let's talk about Aaron.
Lauren (02:28):
Yes, aaron is awesome, like such a calming presence.
Yeah, so kind.
Just I don't know there wasjust like this, this sweetness
to the way he speaks and he'sjust lighthearted and smiles a
lot.
I really enjoyed talking to him.
Frank (02:47):
And the gateway to his like psychic experience occurred
in the editing bay, which issomething that I can only hope
for in the future.
Lauren (02:57):
Yeah, that was a cool.
It's a really cool story, yeah,so let's just get to it.
Frank (03:01):
Yeah.
Lauren (03:01):
Cause we don't have any more updates for you, and
sometimes it's just nice to nothear us chit chat.
Frank (03:08):
And yet here we are, aren't we cute?
Lauren (03:11):
Okay, play Aaron Harris and I hope you enjoy.
Let her rip Aaron Hi.
Thank you for joining us.
On Claire Voyaging Hi, we loveto hear everyone's backstory.
Yeah, of course.
Can you tell us how'd you getinto doing mediumship and Aaron
(03:33):
Harris Live.
Aaron (03:33):
Yeah.
So let's see, I've always beensuper duper, like just into, I
would say, like the metaphysicalor supernatural aspect of um,
ghosts and all those cryptidaspects.
Um, and then back in 2019, mycousin tragically passed away
(03:59):
and I was opened, I would saythat way, um, curiosity just
kind of pushed me into thatsituation and it really opened
me up to spirit and what lifeand passing means and also, I
would say, the cruelty thathuman can be to another human.
(04:21):
And then, through that trauma,I started to cope with
substances to kind of numb thosefeelings from spirit, because I
didn't really understand thedeeper anxiety that was like
coming through and then I shutit off completely.
I didn't want to deal with thatother side of afterlife yet.
(04:45):
And then jump to 2021, I gotinto videography and directing
and studio set type stuff and Iwas working on a documentary
called Tyler and it's about a 16year old who self inflicted.
And as I was editing hisdocumentary, I kept getting
(05:06):
validation after validation andI was really confused.
I was working on the memorialscene and I kept getting I hope
they know that I'm okay, I amstill here, I hope they know how
much I miss them and I was likewhat the hell?
And so I opened up a Google docand I just started typing like
everything I heard, because Iwas just like kind of there's a
(05:28):
weird space to be in to notunderstand.
I was listening to spirit atthe time, yeah.
So then I just started typingand typing and then I read it
back to myself and I'm like am Italking to him?
And I sat there kind of likewhat the hell.
And I told my friend at thetime I was like hey, like what
is this?
And she's like what the heck?
That's weird.
You should tell his mom.
(05:48):
So I reached out to Tyler's momand I said hey, like just kind
of this weird moment last nightwhile I was editing the film I
don't know what it is and I readit to her and then I asked
Tyler.
I said, well, can I have avalidation?
That would really like standout.
And he said said, well, ask mymom what Ducky means.
So I was like, okay, amanda,what does Ducky mean?
(06:10):
And then she's like no fuckingway, like Ducky was my brother's
nickname.
Only really Tyler would knowthat in the moment, kind of
thing.
And I was like oh, okay, andshe's like Erin, you're a medium
.
Let me put you in contact withmy friend.
I was like, oh okay, so I wasjust kind of thrown into this
world of spirit and afterlife.
(06:31):
I mean I watched you know, Iwould watch theresa caputo's
long island medium and that'sreally only at the time, the
only really mainstream mediumthat I really knew of besides
Matt Brazier and all thoseothers.
And I talked to her friend,erica, and she told me about my
(06:53):
spirit guide and that I'll beable to find him soon.
And so jump, a couple of dayslater I was like really curious
what that meant, because at thetime I didn't know.
So I started researching.
I am Chippewa indigenous.
At the time I didn't know thisyet, but I looked into, I was
just typed in, like because Ihad an image of what he looked
like in my mind, and so I typedin Native American chiefs and
(07:17):
the first picture that reallydrew me was Rocky Boy and he's a
Chippewa chief from Montana andhe has a really interesting
backstory.
But as I was doing some research, I found an art gallery for
youth and I'm really connectedwith bear and it's called Makwa,
and so it shows a list.
(07:38):
I screenshotted it all.
I'll send it to you guys later,but I screenshotted the list of
all the different animals andthe spirit meanings.
It popped up with makwa andnext to it it said youth suicide
.
And so from there I was likewhat the hell?
Because it was specificallyrocky boy reservation art
gallery for youth.
And then to link those twotogether, I realized, oh, he put
(08:01):
me on like this kind of pathhere to kind of click everything
together.
And now that I look back I seeall the puzzle pieces have
aligned and then jump to 2021.
I found my birth family and itturns out I'm chipolo jibwe,
african nation native.
(08:22):
So those puzzle pieces just allclicked in together, like with
Rocky Boy.
And then, through my spiritualjourney, as I got in touch more
with my Native roots, I knew Iwas Native.
Since I was a child I've beenvery involved in Native culture,
really loved and enjoyed thehistory points of it too.
And then as I just kept gettinginto more spirituality it
(08:47):
started to evolve into more of aNative American spiritualism
and looking into like theculture, aspects of afterlife
and then, working with my guidesand everything, it just really
kind of turned into that.
And then the mediumship.
I've always had a caring heart.
(09:08):
I've been a caregiver sinceprobably like 13, 14 with my
great grandmother and from thereI started to work at facilities
and I always got put in thedementia unit because I don't
know, the men just work in thedementia unit.
So I always had a soft spot fordementia and hospice care and I
(09:29):
thought maybe going on to likehospice as a travel nurse or
something with that.
But uh, my path led me here.
So now I work as a medium.
I do this full time.
I would say I do spiritualadvising, so I listen to guides
and get higher guidance.
My main forte is grief,companionship and mediumship.
(09:52):
So I kind of combine the twowhen I do my mediumship.
So my main focus is grief.
So everything I talk about andlearn has been through spirit.
I've never really taken anyclasses or mentoring.
I just like to listen to myguides and I just kind of spew
what they spew and that's what Ido.
That's me in a nutshell.
Frank (10:14):
That's great.
Lauren (10:15):
That's so cool.
Frank (10:16):
Real quick.
I'm sorry if I missed it.
Did your main spirit guide evercome through?
Aaron (10:20):
Yeah, rocky Boy, he does yes.
Oh okay, yeah, I have sevenspirit guides that I work with
on a daily basis and how do theycome through for you?
So I use Claire Sentience andClaire Cognizant so I'm able to.
I would say I also the way thatI listen to spirit.
(10:41):
I channel on my left hand side.
So when I do my readings andwhen I work I always look to the
left.
Don't know why that is.
I have a couple of theories.
But then when I channel I don'thear outside my peripheral.
It's always comes through onthe right and that's how I hear
is on the inside.
(11:02):
The way that I hear spirit is Iget names, numbers, dates,
memory triggers, colors, aurasand healing messages.
If you ever watch my TikToklives, you'll hear me say that a
million times to get themessage out there.
I do get apparitions once in awhile, but usually I will get
orbs or colors a lot of the time.
That's kind of how I hearspirit.
(11:25):
They do come through very clear.
I call myself telephone toheaven because the way that I
listen it's just like a phonecall.
I'm very emotion-based when Ido my readings, so I connect
through emotions of spirit.
I've been told well, and I'vealso heard other people's
mention, spirit doesn't feelemotion, but I feel like this
(11:47):
work is so emotion-based.
How could it not be readthrough emotions?
It's very interesting, very,very interesting.
Frank (11:56):
Yeah, yeah, that is funny .
I've never heard anybody saythat spirit doesn't feel
emotions.
It feels like that's maybe allthey can feel.
All this spiritual, spiritualwork is all in emotions, are all
vibration based and like soit's.
It's funny that I haven't heardanyone say that before.
So you should punch him in theface next time you hear that.
Aaron (12:17):
It's so interesting.
It's so interesting.
And then there's other aspectsto mediumship as well, with with
the emotions and energy and allthat stuff.
Lauren (12:26):
Yeah, I mean yeah, Like getting the the emotions of how
that spirit was as a human.
You know, sometimes they'relike, oh, they're coming in
really angry, or yes, yes, yes,exactly.
Like they were.
They were a really happy person.
So that's so yeah in.
(12:47):
So that's so.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Did um, did your cousin evercome through to you like I know
you kind?
Of blocked you blocked that outa little bit, but did you ever
get any?
Aaron (12:53):
so I've had him come through a handful of times, um,
mainly with his energy.
That's the hard thing I willconnect with, but I haven't
fully allowed myself yet tofully hear him.
It's kind of the trauma and myown mind kind of blocking that
energy from really comingthrough.
(13:14):
I've had moments and blipswhere I've been able to connect,
but for the most part I keephim more in the back.
Frank (13:22):
I haven't fully just allowed myself yet that is
interesting, having you know theshow where we talk to so many
like deeply intuitive people.
It's funny when it seems likewhen you're not quite ready to
you know, dive deeply into thattrauma, it seems like they still
(13:43):
come through every once in awhile, just give you like a
quick tip of the hat, as in likewe'll talk when you're ready
kind of thing.
Aaron (13:49):
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
I know that they're alwaysaround my cousin and then just
other loved ones and familymembers as well, but for the
most part I don't know.
I try to keep that separatewith my own journey of healing
and sobriety and all that funstuff.
Frank (14:08):
Yeah.
Are you still close with thefamily that raised you before
you met your biological family?
Oh, yeah, yeah, so you alwaysknew that you had Native
American in you.
Aaron (14:18):
Oh, I had a feeling.
Yeah, my adopted mom reallyreally had this deep inkling
that I was native American, andso we were just like, oh, I
wonder.
And then to have thatrevelation of like, oh yeah,
you're Chippewa.
I was like, oh, what the heck.
And then I had registeredfamily with a black earth nation
out in Minnesota.
(14:39):
So it's pretty cool.
Yeah, really cool.
Frank (14:44):
So with your adopted family?
Um, how did they react when youcame out as as a, as a
intuitive person?
Aaron (14:54):
Well, let's see, I've had a few coming outs, but the
first one with the intuitiveaspect there, um, I mean, they
didn't seem to care.
They kind of had a.
My mom always kind of knew.
I mean, I don't, I wouldn'teven really say it was a coming
out cause I just started to getto work Right as soon as I
(15:15):
figured out this path.
My partner, really I wasstruggling with jobs a lot of
the time, so I didn't reallyhave my sense of purpose yet.
This is when I was like 26, 27.
And she was like you know, whydon't you try mediumship?
And I was like, okay, so Ireally put myself out there from
(15:40):
the get-go with my mediumshipof this is what I'm doing and
I'm going to just try to seewhere it goes.
I started working on Facebook alittle bit and that's where it
snowballed into going intoTikTok and all the other
platforms.
But for the coming out aspect,I mean my mom and my family, I
(16:01):
don't know, they never seem toreally mind.
I don't think they do at all.
Frank (16:07):
So you would say that you're like fairly supported in
that.
Aaron (16:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, for sure, that's cool.
My nana was super duperinterested in this work.
Frank (16:11):
Yeah, you would say that you're like fairly supported in
that.
Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.
Aaron (16:12):
Especially my Nana.
My Nana was super duperinterested in this work.
I like to think that that kindof gave her some support with
her passing and she'd always askme questions about what I do
and what clients I see and whatspirit life is like and who I
connect with.
So I like to think that gaveher some sense of comfort before
(16:35):
she was.
Lauren (16:36):
Oh, that's really cool.
Aaron (16:37):
Yeah.
Lauren (16:38):
To be able to like give that, like sense of ease, like
you know, transitioning out ofhuman form.
Aaron (16:49):
So I like to think that that really helped her with the
calmness before she passed.
So that's one of theinteresting, that's so sweet,
that's huge.
Frank (16:58):
That's such important work you having your first real
mediumship experience in theediting bay.
I wrote down.
I wrote down editing bay medium, being like in the zone
sometimes and just turning offyour brain.
I could imagine how you wouldsuddenly receive things that you
might.
How long were you receivingmessages without even really
(17:21):
recognize it before you finallydecided to open up that Google
Doc?
Aaron (17:25):
So, surprisingly, right away, as soon as I started to
hear like these other, theysounded like because I didn't.
I couldn't differentiate atfirst.
Now I can, but I was kind oflike it's not my own thoughts,
because why would I be feelingthe thoughts of what it was like
to go through a suicide?
You know deeper moments withspirit?
(17:46):
And so I was like huh.
And so right away I'm like letme type this down because this
might be important.
I typed, I think I puttimestamps on it too.
I think it was like I channeledhim for like two hours or
something crazy.
Oh, wow, I didn't realize,because time kind of goes away
when I do this work.
So, yeah, I have like six,seven pages of just notes in my
(18:10):
google of just everything Iheard from him.
That's amazing.
But I didn't know.
I.
And then the next day too, likeI was telling my uh, the, the
main producer of the documentary, and we ended up talking for
like six hours about it becauseshe was just so curious about
(18:31):
him and and what I was doing.
I didn't know.
I was like on fuckingadrenaline I guess.
Yeah, at the end of it Icrashed out.
I was so tired.
But um, at the end of thedocumentary.
There's a little secret there.
Uh anita, the producer asked medoes tyler have a message for
the film?
And so tyler was able to put amessage of his own at the end of
(18:53):
the film that they typed in.
Nobody really knows that, butnow they do so, yes, that's
amazing.
Frank (19:02):
What was the name of the film is tyler?
Aaron (19:03):
yeah, it's just called tyler, okay and this mediumship,
just really I got so likeabsorbed by it because it's so
interesting and I mean it's mylife 24, 7, unfortunately not
unfortunately, but you know Ihear it 24, 7 now.
So it's it really just is takenover in that way where it's
more of even a passion than thefilm.
Lauren (19:24):
But eventually, I want to combine the two.
Aaron (19:26):
That's my next big idea here in my brain is to combine
about that.
Frank (19:30):
Yeah, yeah when you get the calling for mediumship and
any kind of like psychic work,like it's uh, it's not a silent,
soft call.
From what I understand, it'slike this is happening now no,
they throw it in my face.
Aaron (19:42):
They're like it's right here, you just gotta listen and
connect with the right people.
Yeah, no, that's, that's one ofthe things I uh.
Yeah, I put a lot on my plate.
That's another part ofmediumship that goes into mental
health and mediumship.
Frank (19:55):
I would say yeah, yeah, such an important part of it, so
you said like it's kind ofconstant.
Lauren (20:02):
now, do you have have you figured out like your off
switch?
Aaron (20:06):
Oh, yeah, yeah, so I call it my.
It's like a red light, greenlight kind of thing, where it's
like green light I'm working,red light I'm not.
But the parallels are so thinwith turning it off and on.
It's just kind of like when I'mwith my partner or just cooking
or doing personal stuff, youknow it will lessen lesson, but
(20:38):
when I'm working is it's loudand and sometimes even that
parallel will cross anyways.
Um, so say, I'm shopping andI'll get like this really big
pit here in my chest and I'mjust like I know it's spirit but
like I don't want to answer thephone call because it's like
I'm trying to, you know, spendtime with family or do stuff
yeah I kind of have to forcemyself to disassociate almost,
(21:00):
yeah, when I'm out there in theworld.
Uh, so my partner knows,especially if I give her a look,
she intuitively knows like, ohshit, he's feeling spirit.
Feeling spirit Like we got tohurry up and go Cause it's going
to be like I just get reallyanxious or snippy and I don't
try to be, but it's just like ifI don't find that right person,
then it's like going to vomitout.
(21:22):
You know, and I've done thatbefore, where I've I've Teresa
Caputo to a few people and it'sbeen very interesting.
Oh yeah, I love veryinteresting.
Oh yeah, I love that term.
I don't know, I just use it.
It's easy, that's funny, um,but yeah, no, I've traced a few
people and it's always been ahundred.
But I just sometimes inside meI'm like I don't want to share
because you don't know howsomeone's going to react to
(21:42):
hearing.
Yeah, hey, your grandma's here,she tells you she loves you.
I know she passed last week.
You know, like that type ofstuff, you don't want to just
someone who's working or doingtheir own thing, like that type
of stuff, you don't want to justsomeone who's working or doing
their own thing.
But I've done it a few timesand it's been very positive.
I'll usually give a businesscard.
I don't have them on me rightnow, so I'm making more, but
(22:03):
that is one of the big things Itry to keep on hand as a
business card, because I don'twant to interrupt someone's day.
I just want to be like hey, ifyou want a free session with me,
here you go.
So that's what I've done a fewtimes is I just give my card out
.
But it is really hard to notlisten to that call of the void
over here on my left-hand side.
Frank (22:20):
It's so interesting See, Lauren, every time I'm being
kind of mean to you, it's justbecause I'm feeling something.
Lauren (22:28):
That's it, thank you.
Wink, wink, it's spirit, it'sspirit.
Huh, all right, I know who toblame now.
I guess I'm getting tips here.
It's interesting, the brainthing.
We had a.
Frank (22:39):
What brain thing.
Lauren (22:40):
Well, he said that he channels on the left.
Frank (22:44):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lauren (22:45):
Right.
Aaron (22:46):
I have a few theories.
I loved it, yeah.
Yeah, I have a theory of whythat is.
Lauren (22:54):
Oh, theories I loved.
Yeah, yeah, I have a theory ofwhy that is.
Oh, we had a um.
One of our guests, jeff tarrantwas, is a brain.
He studies brains.
I can't think of interestingbrain studier studier um and he
studied.
Do you know, laura lynn jackson?
Aaron (23:08):
I feel like I've heard of them.
Yes, Okay.
Lauren (23:12):
Anyway, she wrote a really cool book called signs,
but he studied her brain.
When she's doing psych, psychicwork, it's on one side, and
when she's doing mediumship,it's on the other side.
Aaron (23:22):
Oh, how interesting.
Lauren (23:23):
There's something to that.
I don't have more informationthan that, cause I can't
remember exactly what's yourtheory?
Aaron (23:33):
my theory with oh, oh boy , I did this the other night
with my friend because we werejust getting into it but, um, so
my theory is with the right,left side.
So I know that the right side,this is all the creative.
Our right side of the mind iscreative, open, um, so that's
where, like you, can go intothat meditative space.
And the right side is verylogical thinker math.
(23:53):
You have to make sense of theworld.
So I like to think that thereason why I look to the left
it's also kind of like a littlefunnel here so my creative, open
side is open anyways, all thetime, 90% of the time, 99% of
the time at this point, 99% ofthe time at this point, and so
I'm thinking that with thetheory is that because this is
(24:13):
always open, my right sidedoesn't really have time to
process the logical, analyticalside of it.
So then, when I'm doingmediumship, the reason why I
look to the left is that is theeasiest point for me to study
and focus in on using my right,but the left is open anyways.
Does that make sense?
Frank (24:32):
Yes, wow, make sense.
Yes, wow, it does yeah.
Aaron (24:37):
So the right side is hyper-focused and really using
my mathematical side to listenand like focus in on something,
but I'm hearing it on thetechnically it's on the right,
but I don't look to the right atall when I do my reads, it's
always the left.
Yeah, okay, so interesting.
Frank (24:52):
Yeah, this is making me.
I felt the brain tangles for asecond.
Yeah, I know I am not.
We don't want to say we're notpsychic.
We say we're practicing becausewe've been, we're practicing,
we're practicing on gettingbetter, because we've been
scolded by certain mediums,because everyone's psychic.
Aaron (25:19):
Everyone's psychic, everyone's like okay, sorry,
that's one of the big thingsthat I teach my clients and my
students is uh, there is no umthere, it's a spectrum.
There's no level of like,you're not completely closed or
you're right open.
Everybody, every single personon earth, has some intuitive
ability to some degree, whetherthat's instincts or intuition or
even psychic medium.
Everyone has this gift.
It's just opening it up andbeing around those like-minded
individuals as well.
Um, I've noticed there's alsoanother subject here.
(25:43):
Uh, the correlation of traumaand mediumship is also super
interesting to get into.
Lauren (25:48):
Oh, there's so many subjects, and that's that's why
I love this work I love thesponge, so yeah, we talk a lot
about trauma healing on this, onthis show.
Aaron (25:59):
Yeah yeah, big correlation, oh my god, really,
yeah, it's so fascinating sohold on, let's actually I'm
sorry I give you so manysubjects.
No it, it's fantastic.
I love it Fantastic.
Frank (26:12):
So, oh, what I was going to say about my brain is that I
realized that because I alwaystalk about how heady I am and
that I know that it's causinglike roadblocks I'm overthinking
stuff Roadblocks to connectingmore deeply with my level of
intuition.
Intuition, and you made merealize just now that I'd say,
(26:35):
90% of the time I feel maybe I,you can't, you can't feel your
thinking, but it feels very onthe right side.
You know what I mean, and Ilook to the right a lot just
when I'm thinking, and I neverlike look to the left and even
just doing it right now to thinkit feels super awkward and
uncomfortable and I think I needto start firing up.
(26:56):
I all my creativity comes inthe form of, like you know,
music or editing or whatever itmight be, and I haven't used my
left, I don't think I use theleft side of my brain just when
I'm existing, and I wonder whatwould happen well, when you're
editing, you're using the leftside of your brain, cause it's a
creative.
Aaron (27:14):
Yeah, anything that uses your hands like building,
editing, you know that opens upthat left side as well.
Frank (27:21):
I do that enough.
I have some things to try.
You gave me some ideas, yeah.
Aaron (27:29):
Good, even Legos, even legos, even legos anything that
just opens it up.
Lauren (27:34):
You know, I'm big on.
Frank (27:35):
You were a lego kid.
I was a lego kid in a big way,something.
So let's talk about trauma forjust one second, but let's talk
about trauma in the directionthat you're um working in more
frequently, and that is you'retalking about, uh, dementia care
yeah so this is always, youknow, I feel like at a certain
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age, everyone's brains startfalling apart and like in the
final phase of things.
But many, I'd say like 90 ofpeople experience some form of,
like you know, lowering brainfunction.
That could like be just, youknow, dementia, and like
alzheimer's is almost a blanketstatement at some point.
Oh yeah, the doctors use thatpretty loosely.
Um, from your experience, yeah,what is going on with with
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dementia patients?
Aaron (28:25):
that's an interesting question.
So with dementia, I know thatit's like the cognitive function
slows and and just the brainfunction just kind of turns into
uh, again a puddle.
This is the best word I canthink of, unfortunately.
Um, there is like a reallyinteresting aspect working with
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dementia people where I'm likehuh, I I wonder if there is the
veil between spirit world andthe dementia is very thin and so
that's why they have those.
I know that hallucinations area scientific aspect to it, but I
also wonder in a spiritualaspect if the hallucinations are
actually more of them gettingcloser to spirit world, and I
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kind of wonder about that aswell.
Lauren (29:16):
Yeah, um, yeah, one foot in, one foot out yeah, yeah,
exactly yeah but also if, likewe've because we've talked about
too how we always wonder iftrauma that is unhealed like
kind of makes part of your brainlike a lot, if you're locking
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away memories, I would say soprocess you kind of your brain
kind of protects itself andstarts, but without that
protective layer of cognitivethinking, you know, because our
brain constantly is like workinghard to mask that trauma.
Aaron (29:54):
I'm wondering also if that's a good point too, that
dementia maybe thins that, sothen the trauma becomes more
prevalent as well, I would thinkyeah, so what do you?
Frank (30:02):
so what do you do with patients, like, what is your
work, like with them?
Aaron (30:04):
well.
So I haven't worked withdementia in four to five years
now okay but when I was workingwith them, um, I would say very
intuitive based, because I couldunderstand, like their erratic
and complex emotion to a t so Iwas kind of able to maneuver
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myself as a helper and carer,caregiver of them, a little
easier, I would say, because Iunderstood their wants and their
needs more, where you know shecan't cognitively say like I
want a hug or love or affection,but the signals in my mind
would be like, oh okay, shewants a hug.
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So kind of like that, using myown intuition of understanding
what they need as a caregiver.
Though mentally, emotionally itwas a lot of physical work that
I'm glad I left that fieldbecause it was just destroying
my, not just my back but just myalso.
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The emotional side of it wasjust very heavy for me and I
think that's part of theintuition because we constantly
had to deal with the physicalpassings and physical death.
That's kind of what I alsomentioned too with, like working
with spirit.
Now is I get to be a caregiverwith human, earth, plane people,
but now I'm almost a caregiverwith the aftermath of it as well
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, where now I get to help thosewho've passed um find the care
and the emotional support andthe healing that they need.
Not not saying that this workis any tiring, because, oh lord
knows, I can sleep for 12 hoursand still be.
But there there is that reallyinteresting aspect to it where I
see the, the same similar hereparts of the healing journey,
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for both physical andnon-physical, if that makes
sense.
Frank (31:55):
Yeah.
Aaron (31:55):
Yeah.
Frank (31:56):
So you also mentioned grief companionship.
Is that yeah?
Aaron (32:00):
So for grief companionship, it's more of a
newer concept that I'm kind ofputting into my work.
I mean, my work has been grieffocused since the day I started
this.
Just with what I've gonethrough in my life and knowing
that community and grief supportis one of the biggest things
that we can, you know, buildcommunities is really the
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foundation of what I'm doing.
Aside from mediumship and griefhelp, with my grief
companionship my focus is moreshifted to working almost like a
personal liaison for someonewho's really going through that
heavy grief journey.
Whether that's one month, Ibreak it down into one-on-one
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sessions one month, three months, six months, 12 month and 15
month, and that's kind of how Ibreak it down Again with kind of
numerology focused in there alittle bit.
Yeah, just a sprinkle.
So then the way that I work withthe grief companionship is that
I'm there pretty much five toseven days a week, one session a
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week, depending on what theirneeds are, and this is where I
involve spirits.
So with my spirit guides thereis one specific for grief, her
name is One who Heals and Cries,and so she does transmediumship
as well as Leon, but I haven'tworked with transmediumship in a
while.
But anyways, back to the greatfocus.
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So One who Heals and Criesreally helps with the healing
messages and spiritualconnection on what they need in
the moment.
So we go through a list ofgoals that they want to focus on
throughout the month orwhatever plan they choose and
then from there each session iskind of tailored to that
specific goal and we could evendo like a bi-weekly goal if
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that's a really big need.
But I always try to doincorporate like worksheets or
journal prompts and sometimesit's just talking.
So a lot of the times theseclients sign up for grief
companionship and all it is isjust us really just hanging out
talking about spirituality andwhat it means to grieve.
And then we go through a littlebit of mediumship sometimes,
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because when I connect with um,when I connect with them, no
matter what spirit's going tocome through, so our
conversations always have alittle bit of mediumship thrown
in.
Uh, it's it's reallyinteresting to do grief.
Lauren (34:26):
It's such a really beautiful service to provide
someone Like I'm just thinkingabout.
I mean, I lost my brother 20years ago and that's such a
powerful thing.
You said like sometimes it'sjust talking and sometimes
that's all you need, you know,and going through that grief
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process is so lonely.
It's so individual and justhaving someone that like is
literally just there to supportyour grief journey is what a
gift that's, so that's such agreat service to provide.
Aaron (35:03):
That is really cool, yeah , and that's kind of where, like
, that line really splitsbetween mediumship and grief,
because the way that I do mymediumship, I want people to
know like I'm not just a medium,I also can be, you know, a
companion or a friend as well.
Right, yeah, right so they.
I like to blend those two.
Sometimes it's a littledifficult to build the boundary
(35:24):
because I I'm just, I'm friendlyand I'm talkative and I love to
laugh, so finding that boundaryis a little difficult sometimes
.
But for the most part I reallyenjoy the community aspect and
really helping someone fromstart to finish in their
grieving path.
And I have people reach out tome even when I first started and
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I see the major shift in howthey view the world and how they
are going through their grief.
And that's what I love to seeis when they come reach back out
to me and I see just or justchanges on Facebook, you know, I
see them going through life andthey're healing and doing a lot
better than they were frompoint A.
But there are those clientsthat are so deep in grief that
(36:06):
you know the changes are asapparent, you know, and that
that's kind of the harder part Iwould say you might be the only
person doing beneficial work onfacebook.
Frank (36:17):
I left, I left a long time ago because I'm like this
place is vitriol but I usedfacebook first.
Aaron (36:26):
When I got into this I was burned real bad.
But facebook is a littlecompetitive.
I've noticed just groups andall that.
So I don't work on facebook asmuch.
I want to get into it againbecause that's where my
foundation started and I builtcommunity first.
But I really try to utilize allsocial media.
(36:46):
I mean I have people fromfacebook who follow me to tiktok
.
I have people from Facebook whofollowed me to tick tock.
I have people from tech talkwho followed me to Facebook and
now I'm trying to implementYouTube.
But you know that's a wholebeast in itself.
So it's just.
I'm just trying to get all thecheck boxes and and get
everything set up for my plan Bover here.
So it's just getting theselittle steps to plan B is is the
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hardest part right now, fromwhat I've noticed.
Lauren (37:13):
I'm very sorry.
How do you energeticallyprotect yourself from these?
Like I mean, this is reallyheavy emotional stuff.
Do you like any kind of processto just empathically kind of
protect your own emotionscarrying this?
Aaron (37:33):
So a lot of the time it's , um, I would say it's
compartmentalization a littlebit Um, but I also, I paint a
lot, I draw a lot.
Oh, cool, I would say, um, kindof spirits, funny.
So sorry, again, it's, it'salways here, but I paint a lot,
(37:56):
I draw a lot.
Uh, you know, the devilcouldn't catch me but he gave me
the gift of creation throughcopying.
So I love, uh, creating artthat's already been, you know,
characterized or done before.
So that's kind of what I do isI just love to paint and that's
already been, you know,characterized or done before.
So that's kind of what I do isI just love to paint, and that's
really a place where I canescape.
Uh, I'm with my dog partner.
Uh, I'm not really outdoorsy.
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I probably should be um videogames.
Frank (38:23):
There's no window in this room so I know it's like out
there.
Aaron (38:33):
Sleeping is a really big escape.
That's kind of my emotionallyde-attached and I can really
breathe.
Yes, I do burn out quite a bit,though, and I I think that
stems mostly from my owndepression and my own healing
that I'm doing.
But the emotional impact ofwhat I hear every single day, I
don't know.
I just kind of live alongsideit and cope in my own ways.
(38:55):
You know, I don't know.
It's just what I go through, Iguess.
But that's what I would answerto that question.
That's my thing.
There's really no definitive.
You know, I cut it off, I don'ttalk to anyone because my work
is 24 7, so it's like right, Idon't know, this is just how I'm
living.
Frank (39:15):
I don't know, that's the healthiest, but it's working
great now you mentioned thatduring your like grief
companionship sessions that youkind of help people set goals
sometimes.
Can you give me an example oflike what a goal would look like
?
Aaron (39:30):
yeah.
So one of the goals let's seeone of the goals that I've had
for my clients um, and thiscould be grief in any way, shape
and form, so this could be evensomeone reaching out for like,
uh, they lost their job.
So I had a client who lost theirgrandmother, lost their job,
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was going through all thesechanges all at once and they
really just wanted someone tohelp them find that purpose in
life where they can move on to adifferent path.
That would kind of almost shapetheir new life.
I would say, you know, afterloss and so like a pros and cons
list of like what they enjoy,and then that's kind of how I
(40:14):
would help pinpoint, but thenalso connecting with spirit, I
also do Oracle cards a littlebit too, but my main focus when
they're like, oh, I need helpwith career, I'll listen with
spirit, and then from there,when they're like, oh, I need
help with career, I'll listenwith spirit and then from there,
um, like again with like thecreative aspect.
So a lot of the times spiritsays like getting into creative
mindset will help them find whatthey need to do in life.
Frank (40:38):
So it sounds like almost like a you help them ground
themselves again.
Aaron (40:42):
Yeah, yeah, bounding and anchoring and then helping them
figure out what they need to donext, that's awesome.
Lauren (40:50):
How does the one who heals and cries?
Is that your guide?
Yeah, how does she support this?
How does she support yourclients, like, how do you?
Aaron (41:06):
is it like, oh, she's coming in and like she's gonna
give me a little guidance onwhat to say, or yes, so when I
work with my spirit team oh andthat also kind of goes into the
protection aspect a little bittoo so when I first started this
and just in general, I alwayshave asked them to bring me
people of love and light and whoneed healing, and so that's
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also kind of like thatprotective buffer there.
Yeah, so I know what I'm doingis to focus on healing.
So, like how I know she's hereto support the journey of
healing.
Um, I hear her voice, so I Idefinitely can hear an elderly
woman speaking when I'm reallytuning in to listen.
A lot of the times when they'rehere, they're here 24-7 and
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they're just up in the space.
It's not even that I hear aspecific guidance from either,
or it's just like in my soul Iknow, okay, this healing message
is from one who heals and cries, or I know this message is from
your brother, or I know thismessage is from Rocky Boy, and
then that's kind of how I workwith spirit.
Uh, the guidance that one whoheals and cries gives, it's
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usually I want to say it's moreof like I don't want to say
healing messages, but just theway and I read in the way that I
read it's just more of.
You can just tell it has ahigher guidance to it than just
like my own self and the waythat I talk and the way that I
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speak.
Sometimes the way that shespeaks will kind of be
reiterated through the way thatI speak, and then that's kind of
where you can tell thedifference in who.
I'm working with.
Rocky boys that's not workingwith Rocky boys.
That's not my language.
Rocky boys, we're stern andharsh, but so is one who heals
and cries.
They tell it like it is andthere's really no sugarcoating.
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And that's also kind of a hardpart for me where I want to
remain professional and alsofriendly, so I don't like to say
the harsh words or cussing even.
But you know, loved ones havetheir own personalities and
that's who they are here, is whothey are there, and so that's
where that's where it's kind ofdifficult for me to blur that
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part when I do readings andconnections.
Frank (43:21):
I hope that answered your question.
Aaron (43:22):
I went on a tangent and then it did Okay.
Frank (43:30):
Can you describe?
Aaron (43:31):
your, your relationship with rocky boy, oh yeah, oh boy.
So he is more of, I would sayI'll tell you each one.
So, um, I have rocky boy.
He is more of a uh, I would saymore of like a protective
fatherly type.
But even then when I listen, Idon't.
I honestly I don't.
That's an interesting pointthere.
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I don't fully like, hi, rockyboy, like I will do that, but I
won't.
I haven't in a long time.
They're just all collectivelyhere.
But Rocky boy is again more ofthe protective nature.
When I do connect with him, hedoes speak more gruff and more
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like this is what you're doingand you need to knock it off
kind of feeling, whereas one whoheals and cries comes through
with more of the um, softer tone, healing, more of the softer
tone, healing, more of a sassiernote when the way she speaks oh
, I do, she's so funny and she'salways on Nayeli's side, my
(44:35):
partner, she's always on herside.
I'm like come on here and theyall go against me when I'm, but
I'm usually wrong when thathappens.
That's funny, of course.
And then and then Leonon.
He's more quiet.
He usually comes through withhealing, through song, so he'll
channel in through trancemediumship.
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And then there's tyler, and hecomes in once in a while.
Frank (45:00):
He's not really a guide, but he's there still uh, is that
the same tyler as the the doc?
Uh, that's awesome.
Aaron (45:07):
He's just kind of stuck around in that way, um, I think,
because it was such a, it waslike the cataclyst of my
spirituality and the mediumshipthat he just kind of stuck
around.
So he'll come through, um, andthen I have jericho and kinetic.
Uh, they.
So this part is kind of where,like it gets a little woo-woo
and that's even like, oh, for mea little bit uh, but jericho
(45:30):
and kinetic, they are mycelestial guardians.
Frank (45:33):
Um, so the term alien we just had a whole series of
episodes about the galacticfederation.
Aaron (45:39):
So yeah, so we get it so, jericho kinetic, I would say
those are the.
They are just so fascinating,but they, I keep those ones.
They're like.
You have your spirit guideshere.
And then I have my celestialguardians.
I, they're the same, but I, Ikeep a definitive line.
And then I have Lillian, who'sa spirit guide.
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She's of my Celtic Irishdescent.
One who heals in cries is alsonative American.
I also found her last earthplane life as well, so I have
photos of what she looked like,what Wait, could you send that
to us?
Yeah.
Frank (46:17):
I've always wondered about that, If you were able to
like backtrack that kind ofthing.
It seems like a boy.
Aaron (46:21):
Rocky boy was also a person in history, so I have his
photos as well, please.
Lauren (46:26):
Amazing, yeah, a person in history.
So I have his photos as well,please.
Aaron (46:28):
Amazing, yeah, so cool, um leon.
He was more great plains nativeamerican, I want to say
comanche, but I don't.
I haven't found any.
I haven't done research on himyet, uh, or at all.
Um, uh, who else?
Frank (46:43):
william.
These are incredible names.
These are good names.
It's a good team.
Aaron (46:47):
Oh, I know it's beautiful work too.
Oh, duh feathers facing the sun, um.
So I went through a very bigtransitional phase when I moved
back home to california and itwas like just this end of a
cycle where I was like, um,moving home and finding my place
back home here, um, and shecame through as, uh, the Hopi
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sun God.
Uh.
So I got my cousin has a tattooof the other half.
Oh, neat.
Frank (47:15):
Oh, that's awesome.
Aaron (47:17):
Yeah, and then I work with spirit animals.
So I work with bear, and then Ialso work with bison, um, and
then my dog, bucky.
He is my grounding magnet hereto earth plane, so he keeps me
grounded and he'll help me withmy spirit work as well.
Whenever I need like a littleenergy boost, he'll always come
over.
He's always by me when I'mworking to like just
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reciprocation of energy.
That's fantastic, it's quitenice.
Frank (47:44):
So this is actually a really good point.
I have a question.
This is a good time to ask it,because it seems like a lot of
your, your spirit team, are likea native American.
How much of your personalculture, of our personal
cultures, is, is an importantpart of our, our, our spirit
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team, or our spiritual guidancemoving forward.
Aaron (48:06):
I would say almost every aspect.
Really I would.
I would say almost every aspectbecause when you look at past
lives or just, uh, also just thelineage that you have, or
heritage, there's going to besome sort of influence in your
spirit team from your ancestorsat any given point.
Does that make sense?
(48:28):
No, it does.
It's interesting to think aboutit does.
Frank (48:32):
I don't know why.
For some reason, maybe this ismy like toxic individual
individualism or something but Ialways like kind of kept that
kind of stuff separate separate.
I am half Cuban and likebasically half Scottish Right.
So, uh, but I don't superidentify as being Cuban because
I grew up in a very whiteculture.
(48:53):
I mean, look at me, hear me,but I have family who, like are
still very much steeped in thatculture and that tradition.
So I've always been like, oh, Ialways.
I guess I'm just unnecessarilydisassociated from that heritage
element of it all.
And then, same thing, my, myvery white Scottish side of the
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family, like I don't have a lotof connection culturally to that
because they came from Chicago.
So I think, oh, cool, chicago.
Like I don't think much beyondthat.
Lauren (49:26):
Yeah, but I bet once you learned the names of your
spirit guides, you'd be like oh,okay, I mean, I'm so jealous of
your spirit guides' names.
Frank (49:34):
at the very least, every single one of them could be a
band name.
Aaron (49:38):
There's a really interesting teaching point too,
with learning your spiritguides' names.
It's not as complicated as youwould think.
If you need help, let me know I.
I there's, it's super easy, sowhat I'll teach you real quick
sure yeah, yeah you guys coulddo it also with like after the
podcast or whatever, uh, butwhat you do is you close your
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eyes and then you just do reallythree big deep breaths and then
you can ask in your mind's eyeor out loud can the first spirit
guide who's followed me frombirth to now, can you give me
your name and then the firstname that you hear you can
attach to your spirit guide, andwhether that evolves or changes
later on, at least nowsomething you have, something to
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call upon when you're workingwith spirit or wanting to
connect in meditation andsometimes it could be a family
member who's passed wanting toconnect in meditation, and
sometimes it could be a familymember who's passed.
And that's kind of where theancestral or the heritage or
culture aspect come into play alittle bit that is very
interesting I did one meditationone time frank knows this and I
(50:41):
.
Lauren (50:41):
I said I was like just about to fall asleep and I said
is anyone like in here with me?
And his male voice said or Iwas like just about to fall
asleep and I said is anyone likein here with me?
And his male voice said or Iwas like what's your name?
And he said Stefan.
I said okay.
Frank (50:57):
Now remind me, did you hear that?
I heard a male voice.
Like with your ear.
Lauren (51:02):
In my brain.
Aaron (51:04):
Okay.
Lauren (51:04):
Not outside my ear.
Aaron (51:05):
In my brain.
That's how I hear.
Lauren (51:08):
A male voice said Stefan .
Frank (51:13):
I don't think he likes you doing the impersonation.
Lauren (51:15):
I don't know.
Sorry, stefan, that's just aswing, I don't know, and I said
what do I need to know?
Or something like that, and hesaid, keep going.
I was like there's no way.
Aaron (51:32):
I made that up because I didn't even.
I had never heard that.
That's how I feel about mymediumship when I connect with
clients.
So I do a majority of myreadings on tiktok live.
Uh, about 99 of them.
They want that's the, that'sone of the other things.
Uh, with the right now theoryand also like our attention
spans are so blip, so I do allmy readings on TikTok.
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That's just been the easiestway for me to get clients.
And then I do private session,but the ratio is not there.
But with TikTok live, it's justcrazy how you can get
validation just through a chat.
It's really mind-blowing.
Lauren (52:11):
Do you do spirit-led or are you doing like I'm going to
choose who's in the chat?
Aaron (52:18):
Yeah, so with my way that I work, spirit-led is just too
loud, because it's just too loudfor me to really pinpoint who's
here, because I my chat dependsit and the most people I've had
was 600, but it's been verylittle.
I get like 50 to 100 people inmy chats at a time and that's
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and it jumps.
So it's like it could be lessor more in like a minute and
spirit led just is so difficult.
So what I do is I build a list.
Whoever wants to pay gets on mylist, and that's how I do my
readings.
I'll only do maybe five to tenclients uh, live, just to make
it a little easier on me energywise and then I'll go through
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that list and each one getsabout 10 to 15 minutes.
Sometimes it's more because Ican't just stop at the vibe.
Yeah, I like to ramble and sothey really get, you know, more
minutes than allotted.
Um, as a little secret tipthere.
But when I connect with spirit,yeah, the validations, it's
just crazy.
Um, and the definitive of who'swho, I really try to keep it to
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one person, like one spiritentity, because it's just too
much if it's like they have likea list of like four people they
want to connect with or theycome through with like a.
I have clients who will comethrough with, like a grocery
list of who they want to connectwith.
In those 10 minutes I can onlypull as much as I can, you know.
So, yeah, yeah, sometimes I'llspeed run it and I'll try to get
validations for each, but it isso difficult and that that's
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the other part too.
I wish people understood howhard this work was.
So my focus on my tiktok.
I'm gonna start to try to justdo like daily vlogs of day in my
life or like this is what I'mdoing today.
I don't know how to do that yet.
Content is very difficult, butyeah, I want people to see like
you know, I'm not just a medium,like yes, I, I do connect with
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people who've passed, but I alsogo through my own emotions, my
own mental health, my ownhealing, and so that's also one
thing I make very clear withclients At least I try to and
the community I'm building that,hey, I'm also a human too.
I'm not just a telephone.
Frank (54:19):
Yeah, you've got to respect the person too.
Aaron (54:21):
I think that's one of the hard parts with seeing
mainstream mediums working isthey get all the expectations
and the this is what you'regetting and this is who I am and
very showboaty.
But there is a person behindthat as well, Right.
Frank (54:36):
Right, yeah, important to note.
Yeah, for trying to figure outlike your spirit guides, names
and stuff like that.
You know, I just zero percenttrust my imagination.
My, my brain's always firingand I, I will come up with.
Oh, my, my lead spirit guy'sname is carl's jr and I'll be
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like I'm gonna call you carl'sjr now, and of course, on east
coast that's hardy's.
So like, how have you been ableto develop, like your ability
to separate, uh, yourimagination from what you're
actually receiving, or do youjust go with it and if there's a
course correction later on, youjust accept that?
Aaron (55:20):
I just go with it.
I don't know, they've just kindof come to me and I'm like,
okay, that's who you are, allright oh, frank's gonna be like
it's Carl's Jr, it's Slim Jimthat could be like a cowboy
figure or something.
That's a good question.
Yeah, I mean, I honestly myimagination, that's that's.
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That's interesting, because Idon't I have imagination, but
this is, it's too real andgrounding and anchoring to be
just my imagination at thispoint.
Yeah, whoa, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Frank (55:58):
It's so interesting.
Aaron (56:00):
I'm not saying it's your ability, I'm second-guessing my
ability, no, no, but it's a goodpoint though, because how do
you know that it's not you beingcrazy or kooky, or you know?
Congrats, aaron, you're bananas, but it's, it's interesting.
That is an interesting point,but no, I mean, I just go with
it If that's what they're givingme, and that goes into how to
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build your intuition.
Uh, there's three aspects thereof um, trust, self and pain,
pain, and those three things canhelp you open up with spirit.
Uh, when you trust, you justhave to trust with what you're
hearing, and that's that'swhat's.
That's what it's going to be,you know that's yeah and pain.
Frank (56:40):
Trust self and pain.
Can you.
Can you go through that realquick?
Aaron (56:44):
yeah.
So with uh, trust, self andpain, uh, three ways to open
your psychic or intuitiveabilities.
So trust if you can't trustyourself your instincts are your
own power then how would youtrust another person or the
messages that you receive?
So that's lesson number one istrust.
So just trusting the voicesthat you're hearing here and
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trusting here with your heart.
So it's just like you know, youcan't go into a medium reading
with expectations.
You just really have to go inwith an open heart, open mind to
what you're receiving.
And that's how I do.
My mediumship is, you know, butI'm, and I used to be very anal
about that too.
But now I've learned, like Ican't, I just have to give them
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what I hear and hope that itsticks, because at some point it
will.
If it doesn't right away, inthe next couple days, it will.
The next one is self, and that'sself-care, self-reflection.
When you love yourself, carefor yourself and truly at the
center of self, not necessarilyself-centered then you'll start
to heal from grief, have a morejoyful life and open spiritually
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.
So one of the second teachingsespecially big in my grief
teachings is self-care, andthat's not just, like you know,
cooking or watching TV or takinga bath.
It's like that deep soulself-care that you're taking
care of yourself and that'swhat's going to help with grief
and everything.
And then pain that wouldnecessarily be working on trauma
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, shadow work.
It could also be a little bitof physical pain, if you think
that would also fit there foryou.
So you have to sit with yourpain and get to know it.
Yes, it's uncomfortable to faceit, but physical death,
addiction and own mistakes,actions are all counted as pain.
But you can also grow and workwith it.
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And holding on to pain can leadto anger and so on.
But with pain and with grief.
One of the other big teachingsthat I teach is you have to
learn to live alongside grief.
People say that they want theclosure.
They're coming to me to getclosure with their loved one,
but they'll never.
They're not gonna.
You're chasing a unicorn withclosure because you're not gonna
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find it.
You just have to learn to have,learn to build a new sense of
normalcy with the grief in yourlife and how to move forward.
And that's where a lot ofpeople lose that stepping stone
because they're so hyper andespecially the society very
focused on closure basis.
But it's you're not going tofind closure.
Yeah yeah, there's no end tothat.
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That's.
That's one of the big things Itry to teach people whether that
lands and whether that thatworks, and you know people want
to listen Then, and whether thatworks and people want to listen
, then that's kind of what Iteach with that as well.
Frank (59:30):
All important things.
Aaron, please give everybodyyour plugs.
Aaron (59:34):
Tell them where to find you, oh yeah, so you can find me
on TikTok at AaronHarrisLive.
You can go to my website,AaronHarrisLivecom.
I also offer free grief supportonce a month and I'm also
opening up an LGBT grief supportgroup as well once a month
Hopefully that's in the works.
Classes found on the website,Private sessions found on the
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website Everything is on mywebsite pretty much YouTube,
pretty much all social mediaYouTube, Instagram, Facebook,
all the same.
Handle Aaron Harris Live.
Lauren (01:00:06):
Thank you so much for spending time with us and
telling us your story.
Aaron (01:00:10):
Thanks for having me.
Frank (01:00:13):
We'll definitely talk to you soon.
Keep in touch and send us someof those cool things that you
collect?
Lauren (01:00:16):
Yeah, I'll send you some more.
Thank you, Aaron.
Talk to you soon Good one Bye.
Aaron (01:00:21):
Bye.
Frank (01:00:24):
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Claire Voyaging is a productionof Wayfeather Media.
Hello, in this episode we talked to Aaron Harris, a
psychic medium and griefcompanion.
We talked about his spiritguides, the work he does with
clients experiencing grief andhis journey to mediumship, which
is a beautiful story.
I'm Lauren Leon.
Frank (00:16):
And I'm Frank.
Lauren (00:17):
We are a married couple learning how to develop our own
intuition, and this is episode62 of Clear Voyaging our own
intuition.
And this is episode 62 ofclaire voyaging.
Frank (00:31):
Wayfeather media presents claire voyaging what's going on
, hey everybody, how we doingtoday I hope you're having a
great day I hope you had a greatweek thus far yes, I hope it's
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wonderful and I hope you arewonderful.
Lauren (00:56):
That's a lot of hopes and it's all for you we wish the
best for you, and nothing less.
Frank (01:04):
Welcome back.
Lauren (01:04):
Guys, we have a good episode today.
Frank (01:07):
We do have a very nice episode, I mean they're all
great.
Lauren (01:10):
All our guests have been incredible.
Not a clunker in the bunch.
Frank (01:15):
Wow.
Lauren (01:17):
Do they say that?
Frank (01:18):
No, clunker, I don't think so.
Lauren (01:19):
Okay, well, I mean, we just have these.
Guests are amazing, it's beengreat.
Today it's Aaron Harris.
But before we get to that, Iwant to remind you that there
are some new little bits on ourPatreon.
Some of them are free foreverybody and some are for the
paid members, our patrons.
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How?
Frank (01:45):
much is that.
Lauren (01:48):
Are you sure you want to know?
I don't, just I know.
Okay, it's four dollars permonth.
How many of you are tired ofhearing that?
Frank (01:54):
oh, he's gonna do the thing again oh, it's that one
again that sucks.
Did you?
Did you know?
Lauren (01:59):
this is the worst part of every episode the intro no me
, oh just frank is the worstpart of every episode.
The intro no me, oh, just frankis the worst part of every
episode anyway don't talk aboutyourself.
That way, frank's been gettingnotes from his dad.
Don't talk bad about yourself.
Frank (02:18):
That's true.
That's true.
He's only been saying it for 40years.
Lauren (02:22):
It's true, I mean you gotta listen at some point.
Frank (02:25):
We've got a nice episode today.
Let's talk about Aaron.
Lauren (02:28):
Yes, aaron is awesome, like such a calming presence.
Yeah, so kind.
Just I don't know there wasjust like this, this sweetness
to the way he speaks and he'sjust lighthearted and smiles a
lot.
I really enjoyed talking to him.
Frank (02:47):
And the gateway to his like psychic experience occurred
in the editing bay, which issomething that I can only hope
for in the future.
Lauren (02:57):
Yeah, that was a cool.
It's a really cool story, yeah,so let's just get to it.
Frank (03:01):
Yeah.
Lauren (03:01):
Cause we don't have any more updates for you, and
sometimes it's just nice to nothear us chit chat.
Frank (03:08):
And yet here we are, aren't we cute?
Lauren (03:11):
Okay, play Aaron Harris and I hope you enjoy.
Let her rip Aaron Hi.
Thank you for joining us.
On Claire Voyaging Hi, we loveto hear everyone's backstory.
Yeah, of course.
Can you tell us how'd you getinto doing mediumship and Aaron
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Harris Live.
Aaron (03:33):
Yeah.
So let's see, I've always beensuper duper, like just into, I
would say, like the metaphysicalor supernatural aspect of um,
ghosts and all those cryptidaspects.
Um, and then back in 2019, mycousin tragically passed away
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and I was opened, I would saythat way, um, curiosity just
kind of pushed me into thatsituation and it really opened
me up to spirit and what lifeand passing means and also, I
would say, the cruelty thathuman can be to another human.
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And then, through that trauma,I started to cope with
substances to kind of numb thosefeelings from spirit, because I
didn't really understand thedeeper anxiety that was like
coming through and then I shutit off completely.
I didn't want to deal with thatother side of afterlife yet.
(04:45):
And then jump to 2021, I gotinto videography and directing
and studio set type stuff and Iwas working on a documentary
called Tyler and it's about a 16year old who self inflicted.
And as I was editing hisdocumentary, I kept getting
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validation after validation andI was really confused.
I was working on the memorialscene and I kept getting I hope
they know that I'm okay, I amstill here, I hope they know how
much I miss them and I was likewhat the hell?
And so I opened up a Google docand I just started typing like
everything I heard, because Iwas just like kind of there's a
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weird space to be in to notunderstand.
I was listening to spirit atthe time, yeah.
So then I just started typingand typing and then I read it
back to myself and I'm like am Italking to him?
And I sat there kind of likewhat the hell.
And I told my friend at thetime I was like hey, like what
is this?
And she's like what the heck?
That's weird.
You should tell his mom.
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So I reached out to Tyler's momand I said hey, like just kind
of this weird moment last nightwhile I was editing the film I
don't know what it is and I readit to her and then I asked
Tyler.
I said, well, can I have avalidation?
That would really like standout.
And he said said, well, ask mymom what Ducky means.
So I was like, okay, amanda,what does Ducky mean?
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And then she's like no fuckingway, like Ducky was my brother's
nickname.
Only really Tyler would knowthat in the moment, kind of
thing.
And I was like oh, okay, andshe's like Erin, you're a medium
.
Let me put you in contact withmy friend.
I was like, oh okay, so I wasjust kind of thrown into this
world of spirit and afterlife.
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I mean I watched you know, Iwould watch theresa caputo's
long island medium and that'sreally only at the time, the
only really mainstream mediumthat I really knew of besides
Matt Brazier and all thoseothers.
And I talked to her friend,erica, and she told me about my
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spirit guide and that I'll beable to find him soon.
And so jump, a couple of dayslater I was like really curious
what that meant, because at thetime I didn't know.
So I started researching.
I am Chippewa indigenous.
At the time I didn't know thisyet, but I looked into, I was
just typed in, like because Ihad an image of what he looked
like in my mind, and so I typedin Native American chiefs and
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the first picture that reallydrew me was Rocky Boy and he's a
Chippewa chief from Montana andhe has a really interesting
backstory.
But as I was doing some research, I found an art gallery for
youth and I'm really connectedwith bear and it's called Makwa,
and so it shows a list.
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I screenshotted it all.
I'll send it to you guys later,but I screenshotted the list of
all the different animals andthe spirit meanings.
It popped up with makwa andnext to it it said youth suicide
.
And so from there I was likewhat the hell?
Because it was specificallyrocky boy reservation art
gallery for youth.
And then to link those twotogether, I realized, oh, he put
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me on like this kind of pathhere to kind of click everything
together.
And now that I look back I seeall the puzzle pieces have
aligned and then jump to 2021.
I found my birth family and itturns out I'm chipolo jibwe,
african nation native.
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So those puzzle pieces just allclicked in together, like with
Rocky Boy.
And then, through my spiritualjourney, as I got in touch more
with my Native roots, I knew Iwas Native.
Since I was a child I've beenvery involved in Native culture,
really loved and enjoyed thehistory points of it too.
And then as I just kept gettinginto more spirituality it
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started to evolve into more of aNative American spiritualism
and looking into like theculture, aspects of afterlife
and then, working with my guidesand everything, it just really
kind of turned into that.
And then the mediumship.
I've always had a caring heart.
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I've been a caregiver sinceprobably like 13, 14 with my
great grandmother and from thereI started to work at facilities
and I always got put in thedementia unit because I don't
know, the men just work in thedementia unit.
So I always had a soft spot fordementia and hospice care and I
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thought maybe going on to likehospice as a travel nurse or
something with that.
But uh, my path led me here.
So now I work as a medium.
I do this full time.
I would say I do spiritualadvising, so I listen to guides
and get higher guidance.
My main forte is grief,companionship and mediumship.
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So I kind of combine the twowhen I do my mediumship.
So my main focus is grief.
So everything I talk about andlearn has been through spirit.
I've never really taken anyclasses or mentoring.
I just like to listen to myguides and I just kind of spew
what they spew and that's what Ido.
That's me in a nutshell.
Frank (10:14):
That's great.
Lauren (10:15):
That's so cool.
Frank (10:16):
Real quick.
I'm sorry if I missed it.
Did your main spirit guide evercome through?
Aaron (10:20):
Yeah, rocky Boy, he does yes.
Oh okay, yeah, I have sevenspirit guides that I work with
on a daily basis and how do theycome through for you?
So I use Claire Sentience andClaire Cognizant so I'm able to.
I would say I also the way thatI listen to spirit.
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I channel on my left hand side.
So when I do my readings andwhen I work I always look to the
left.
Don't know why that is.
I have a couple of theories.
But then when I channel I don'thear outside my peripheral.
It's always comes through onthe right and that's how I hear
is on the inside.
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The way that I hear spirit is Iget names, numbers, dates,
memory triggers, colors, aurasand healing messages.
If you ever watch my TikToklives, you'll hear me say that a
million times to get themessage out there.
I do get apparitions once in awhile, but usually I will get
orbs or colors a lot of the time.
That's kind of how I hearspirit.
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They do come through very clear.
I call myself telephone toheaven because the way that I
listen it's just like a phonecall.
I'm very emotion-based when Ido my readings, so I connect
through emotions of spirit.
I've been told well, and I'vealso heard other people's
mention, spirit doesn't feelemotion, but I feel like this
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work is so emotion-based.
How could it not be readthrough emotions?
It's very interesting, very,very interesting.
Frank (11:56):
Yeah, yeah, that is funny .
I've never heard anybody saythat spirit doesn't feel
emotions.
It feels like that's maybe allthey can feel.
All this spiritual, spiritualwork is all in emotions, are all
vibration based and like soit's.
It's funny that I haven't heardanyone say that before.
So you should punch him in theface next time you hear that.
Aaron (12:17):
It's so interesting.
It's so interesting.
And then there's other aspectsto mediumship as well, with with
the emotions and energy and allthat stuff.
Lauren (12:26):
Yeah, I mean yeah, Like getting the the emotions of how
that spirit was as a human.
You know, sometimes they'relike, oh, they're coming in
really angry, or yes, yes, yes,exactly.
Like they were.
They were a really happy person.
So that's so yeah in.
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So that's so.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Did um, did your cousin evercome through to you like I know
you kind?
Of blocked you blocked that outa little bit, but did you ever
get any?
Aaron (12:53):
so I've had him come through a handful of times, um,
mainly with his energy.
That's the hard thing I willconnect with, but I haven't
fully allowed myself yet tofully hear him.
It's kind of the trauma and myown mind kind of blocking that
energy from really comingthrough.
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I've had moments and blipswhere I've been able to connect,
but for the most part I keephim more in the back.
Frank (13:22):
I haven't fully just allowed myself yet that is
interesting, having you know theshow where we talk to so many
like deeply intuitive people.
It's funny when it seems likewhen you're not quite ready to
you know, dive deeply into thattrauma, it seems like they still
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come through every once in awhile, just give you like a
quick tip of the hat, as in likewe'll talk when you're ready
kind of thing.
Aaron (13:49):
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
I know that they're alwaysaround my cousin and then just
other loved ones and familymembers as well, but for the
most part I don't know.
I try to keep that separatewith my own journey of healing
and sobriety and all that funstuff.
Frank (14:08):
Yeah.
Are you still close with thefamily that raised you before
you met your biological family?
Oh, yeah, yeah, so you alwaysknew that you had Native
American in you.
Aaron (14:18):
Oh, I had a feeling.
Yeah, my adopted mom reallyreally had this deep inkling
that I was native American, andso we were just like, oh, I
wonder.
And then to have thatrevelation of like, oh yeah,
you're Chippewa.
I was like, oh, what the heck.
And then I had registeredfamily with a black earth nation
out in Minnesota.
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So it's pretty cool.
Yeah, really cool.
Frank (14:44):
So with your adopted family?
Um, how did they react when youcame out as as a, as a
intuitive person?
Aaron (14:54):
Well, let's see, I've had a few coming outs, but the
first one with the intuitiveaspect there, um, I mean, they
didn't seem to care.
They kind of had a.
My mom always kind of knew.
I mean, I don't, I wouldn'teven really say it was a coming
out cause I just started to getto work Right as soon as I
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figured out this path.
My partner, really I wasstruggling with jobs a lot of
the time, so I didn't reallyhave my sense of purpose yet.
This is when I was like 26, 27.
And she was like you know, whydon't you try mediumship?
And I was like, okay, so Ireally put myself out there from
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the get-go with my mediumshipof this is what I'm doing and
I'm going to just try to seewhere it goes.
I started working on Facebook alittle bit and that's where it
snowballed into going intoTikTok and all the other
platforms.
But for the coming out aspect,I mean my mom and my family, I
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don't know, they never seem toreally mind.
I don't think they do at all.
Frank (16:07):
So you would say that you're like fairly supported in
that.
Aaron (16:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, for sure, that's cool.
My nana was super duperinterested in this work.
Frank (16:11):
Yeah, you would say that you're like fairly supported in
that.
Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.
Aaron (16:12):
Especially my Nana.
My Nana was super duperinterested in this work.
I like to think that that kindof gave her some support with
her passing and she'd always askme questions about what I do
and what clients I see and whatspirit life is like and who I
connect with.
So I like to think that gaveher some sense of comfort before
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she was.
Lauren (16:36):
Oh, that's really cool.
Aaron (16:37):
Yeah.
Lauren (16:38):
To be able to like give that, like sense of ease, like
you know, transitioning out ofhuman form.
Aaron (16:49):
So I like to think that that really helped her with the
calmness before she passed.
So that's one of theinteresting, that's so sweet,
that's huge.
Frank (16:58):
That's such important work you having your first real
mediumship experience in theediting bay.
I wrote down.
I wrote down editing bay medium, being like in the zone
sometimes and just turning offyour brain.
I could imagine how you wouldsuddenly receive things that you
might.
How long were you receivingmessages without even really
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recognize it before you finallydecided to open up that Google
Doc?
Aaron (17:25):
So, surprisingly, right away, as soon as I started to
hear like these other, theysounded like because I didn't.
I couldn't differentiate atfirst.
Now I can, but I was kind oflike it's not my own thoughts,
because why would I be feelingthe thoughts of what it was like
to go through a suicide?
You know deeper moments withspirit?
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And so I was like huh.
And so right away I'm like letme type this down because this
might be important.
I typed, I think I puttimestamps on it too.
I think it was like I channeledhim for like two hours or
something crazy.
Oh, wow, I didn't realize,because time kind of goes away
when I do this work.
So, yeah, I have like six,seven pages of just notes in my
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google of just everything Iheard from him.
That's amazing.
But I didn't know.
I.
And then the next day too, likeI was telling my uh, the, the
main producer of the documentary, and we ended up talking for
like six hours about it becauseshe was just so curious about
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him and and what I was doing.
I didn't know.
I was like on fuckingadrenaline I guess.
Yeah, at the end of it Icrashed out.
I was so tired.
But um, at the end of thedocumentary.
There's a little secret there.
Uh anita, the producer asked medoes tyler have a message for
the film?
And so tyler was able to put amessage of his own at the end of
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the film that they typed in.
Nobody really knows that, butnow they do so, yes, that's
amazing.
Frank (19:02):
What was the name of the film is tyler?
Aaron (19:03):
yeah, it's just called tyler, okay and this mediumship,
just really I got so likeabsorbed by it because it's so
interesting and I mean it's mylife 24, 7, unfortunately not
unfortunately, but you know Ihear it 24, 7 now.
So it's it really just is takenover in that way where it's
more of even a passion than thefilm.
Lauren (19:24):
But eventually, I want to combine the two.
Aaron (19:26):
That's my next big idea here in my brain is to combine
about that.
Frank (19:30):
Yeah, yeah when you get the calling for mediumship and
any kind of like psychic work,like it's uh, it's not a silent,
soft call.
From what I understand, it'slike this is happening now no,
they throw it in my face.
Aaron (19:42):
They're like it's right here, you just gotta listen and
connect with the right people.
Yeah, no, that's, that's one ofthe things I uh.
Yeah, I put a lot on my plate.
That's another part ofmediumship that goes into mental
health and mediumship.
Frank (19:55):
I would say yeah, yeah, such an important part of it, so
you said like it's kind ofconstant.
Lauren (20:02):
now, do you have have you figured out like your off
switch?
Aaron (20:06):
Oh, yeah, yeah, so I call it my.
It's like a red light, greenlight kind of thing, where it's
like green light I'm working,red light I'm not.
But the parallels are so thinwith turning it off and on.
It's just kind of like when I'mwith my partner or just cooking
or doing personal stuff, youknow it will lessen lesson, but
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when I'm working is it's loudand and sometimes even that
parallel will cross anyways.
Um, so say, I'm shopping andI'll get like this really big
pit here in my chest and I'mjust like I know it's spirit but
like I don't want to answer thephone call because it's like
I'm trying to, you know, spendtime with family or do stuff
yeah I kind of have to forcemyself to disassociate almost,
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yeah, when I'm out there in theworld.
Uh, so my partner knows,especially if I give her a look,
she intuitively knows like, ohshit, he's feeling spirit.
Feeling spirit Like we got tohurry up and go Cause it's going
to be like I just get reallyanxious or snippy and I don't
try to be, but it's just like ifI don't find that right person,
then it's like going to vomitout.
(21:22):
You know, and I've done thatbefore, where I've I've Teresa
Caputo to a few people and it'sbeen very interesting.
Oh yeah, I love veryinteresting.
Oh yeah, I love that term.
I don't know, I just use it.
It's easy, that's funny, um,but yeah, no, I've traced a few
people and it's always been ahundred.
But I just sometimes inside meI'm like I don't want to share
because you don't know howsomeone's going to react to
(21:42):
hearing.
Yeah, hey, your grandma's here,she tells you she loves you.
I know she passed last week.
You know, like that type ofstuff, you don't want to just
someone who's working or doingtheir own thing, like that type
of stuff, you don't want to justsomeone who's working or doing
their own thing.
But I've done it a few timesand it's been very positive.
I'll usually give a businesscard.
I don't have them on me rightnow, so I'm making more, but
(22:03):
that is one of the big things Itry to keep on hand as a
business card, because I don'twant to interrupt someone's day.
I just want to be like hey, ifyou want a free session with me,
here you go.
So that's what I've done a fewtimes is I just give my card out
.
But it is really hard to notlisten to that call of the void
over here on my left-hand side.
Frank (22:20):
It's so interesting See, Lauren, every time I'm being
kind of mean to you, it's justbecause I'm feeling something.
Lauren (22:28):
That's it, thank you.
Wink, wink, it's spirit, it'sspirit.
Huh, all right, I know who toblame now.
I guess I'm getting tips here.
It's interesting, the brainthing.
We had a.
Frank (22:39):
What brain thing.
Lauren (22:40):
Well, he said that he channels on the left.
Frank (22:44):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lauren (22:45):
Right.
Aaron (22:46):
I have a few theories.
I loved it, yeah.
Yeah, I have a theory of whythat is.
Lauren (22:54):
Oh, theories I loved.
Yeah, yeah, I have a theory ofwhy that is.
Oh, we had a um.
One of our guests, jeff tarrantwas, is a brain.
He studies brains.
I can't think of interestingbrain studier studier um and he
studied.
Do you know, laura lynn jackson?
Aaron (23:08):
I feel like I've heard of them.
Yes, Okay.
Lauren (23:12):
Anyway, she wrote a really cool book called signs,
but he studied her brain.
When she's doing psych, psychicwork, it's on one side, and
when she's doing mediumship,it's on the other side.
Aaron (23:22):
Oh, how interesting.
Lauren (23:23):
There's something to that.
I don't have more informationthan that, cause I can't
remember exactly what's yourtheory?
Aaron (23:33):
my theory with oh, oh boy , I did this the other night
with my friend because we werejust getting into it but, um, so
my theory is with the right,left side.
So I know that the right side,this is all the creative.
Our right side of the mind iscreative, open, um, so that's
where, like you, can go intothat meditative space.
And the right side is verylogical thinker math.
(23:53):
You have to make sense of theworld.
So I like to think that thereason why I look to the left
it's also kind of like a littlefunnel here so my creative, open
side is open anyways, all thetime, 90% of the time, 99% of
the time at this point, 99% ofthe time at this point, and so
I'm thinking that with thetheory is that because this is
(24:13):
always open, my right sidedoesn't really have time to
process the logical, analyticalside of it.
So then, when I'm doingmediumship, the reason why I
look to the left is that is theeasiest point for me to study
and focus in on using my right,but the left is open anyways.
Does that make sense?
Frank (24:32):
Yes, wow, make sense.
Yes, wow, it does yeah.
Aaron (24:37):
So the right side is hyper-focused and really using
my mathematical side to listenand like focus in on something,
but I'm hearing it on thetechnically it's on the right,
but I don't look to the right atall when I do my reads, it's
always the left.
Yeah, okay, so interesting.
Frank (24:52):
Yeah, this is making me.
I felt the brain tangles for asecond.
Yeah, I know I am not.
We don't want to say we're notpsychic.
We say we're practicing becausewe've been, we're practicing,
we're practicing on gettingbetter, because we've been
scolded by certain mediums,because everyone's psychic.
Aaron (25:19):
Everyone's psychic, everyone's like okay, sorry,
that's one of the big thingsthat I teach my clients and my
students is uh, there is no umthere, it's a spectrum.
There's no level of like,you're not completely closed or
you're right open.
Everybody, every single personon earth, has some intuitive
ability to some degree, whetherthat's instincts or intuition or
even psychic medium.
Everyone has this gift.
It's just opening it up andbeing around those like-minded
individuals as well.
Um, I've noticed there's alsoanother subject here.
(25:43):
Uh, the correlation of traumaand mediumship is also super
interesting to get into.
Lauren (25:48):
Oh, there's so many subjects, and that's that's why
I love this work I love thesponge, so yeah, we talk a lot
about trauma healing on this, onthis show.
Aaron (25:59):
Yeah yeah, big correlation, oh my god, really,
yeah, it's so fascinating sohold on, let's actually I'm
sorry I give you so manysubjects.
No it, it's fantastic.
I love it Fantastic.
Frank (26:12):
So, oh, what I was going to say about my brain is that I
realized that because I alwaystalk about how heady I am and
that I know that it's causinglike roadblocks I'm overthinking
stuff Roadblocks to connectingmore deeply with my level of
intuition.
Intuition, and you made merealize just now that I'd say,
(26:35):
90% of the time I feel maybe I,you can't, you can't feel your
thinking, but it feels very onthe right side.
You know what I mean, and Ilook to the right a lot just
when I'm thinking, and I neverlike look to the left and even
just doing it right now to thinkit feels super awkward and
uncomfortable and I think I needto start firing up.
(26:56):
I all my creativity comes inthe form of, like you know,
music or editing or whatever itmight be, and I haven't used my
left, I don't think I use theleft side of my brain just when
I'm existing, and I wonder whatwould happen well, when you're
editing, you're using the leftside of your brain, cause it's a
creative.
Aaron (27:14):
Yeah, anything that uses your hands like building,
editing, you know that opens upthat left side as well.
Frank (27:21):
I do that enough.
I have some things to try.
You gave me some ideas, yeah.
Aaron (27:29):
Good, even Legos, even legos, even legos anything that
just opens it up.
Lauren (27:34):
You know, I'm big on.
Frank (27:35):
You were a lego kid.
I was a lego kid in a big way,something.
So let's talk about trauma forjust one second, but let's talk
about trauma in the directionthat you're um working in more
frequently, and that is you'retalking about, uh, dementia care
yeah so this is always, youknow, I feel like at a certain
(27:57):
age, everyone's brains startfalling apart and like in the
final phase of things.
But many, I'd say like 90 ofpeople experience some form of,
like you know, lowering brainfunction.
That could like be just, youknow, dementia, and like
alzheimer's is almost a blanketstatement at some point.
Oh yeah, the doctors use thatpretty loosely.
Um, from your experience, yeah,what is going on with with
(28:23):
dementia patients?
Aaron (28:25):
that's an interesting question.
So with dementia, I know thatit's like the cognitive function
slows and and just the brainfunction just kind of turns into
uh, again a puddle.
This is the best word I canthink of, unfortunately.
Um, there is like a reallyinteresting aspect working with
(28:50):
dementia people where I'm likehuh, I I wonder if there is the
veil between spirit world andthe dementia is very thin and so
that's why they have those.
I know that hallucinations area scientific aspect to it, but I
also wonder in a spiritualaspect if the hallucinations are
actually more of them gettingcloser to spirit world, and I
(29:14):
kind of wonder about that aswell.
Lauren (29:16):
Yeah, um, yeah, one foot in, one foot out yeah, yeah,
exactly yeah but also if, likewe've because we've talked about
too how we always wonder iftrauma that is unhealed like
kind of makes part of your brainlike a lot, if you're locking
(29:38):
away memories, I would say soprocess you kind of your brain
kind of protects itself andstarts, but without that
protective layer of cognitivethinking, you know, because our
brain constantly is like workinghard to mask that trauma.
Aaron (29:54):
I'm wondering also if that's a good point too, that
dementia maybe thins that, sothen the trauma becomes more
prevalent as well, I would thinkyeah, so what do you?
Frank (30:02):
so what do you do with patients, like, what is your
work, like with them?
Aaron (30:04):
well.
So I haven't worked withdementia in four to five years
now okay but when I was workingwith them, um, I would say very
intuitive based, because I couldunderstand, like their erratic
and complex emotion to a t so Iwas kind of able to maneuver
(30:24):
myself as a helper and carer,caregiver of them, a little
easier, I would say, because Iunderstood their wants and their
needs more, where you know shecan't cognitively say like I
want a hug or love or affection,but the signals in my mind
would be like, oh okay, shewants a hug.
(30:44):
So kind of like that, using myown intuition of understanding
what they need as a caregiver.
Though mentally, emotionally itwas a lot of physical work that
I'm glad I left that fieldbecause it was just destroying
my, not just my back but just myalso.
(31:06):
The emotional side of it wasjust very heavy for me and I
think that's part of theintuition because we constantly
had to deal with the physicalpassings and physical death.
That's kind of what I alsomentioned too with, like working
with spirit.
Now is I get to be a caregiverwith human, earth, plane people,
but now I'm almost a caregiverwith the aftermath of it as well
(31:26):
, where now I get to help thosewho've passed um find the care
and the emotional support andthe healing that they need.
Not not saying that this workis any tiring, because, oh lord
knows, I can sleep for 12 hoursand still be.
But there there is that reallyinteresting aspect to it where I
see the, the same similar hereparts of the healing journey,
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for both physical andnon-physical, if that makes
sense.
Frank (31:55):
Yeah.
Aaron (31:55):
Yeah.
Frank (31:56):
So you also mentioned grief companionship.
Is that yeah?
Aaron (32:00):
So for grief companionship, it's more of a
newer concept that I'm kind ofputting into my work.
I mean, my work has been grieffocused since the day I started
this.
Just with what I've gonethrough in my life and knowing
that community and grief supportis one of the biggest things
that we can, you know, buildcommunities is really the
(32:21):
foundation of what I'm doing.
Aside from mediumship and griefhelp, with my grief
companionship my focus is moreshifted to working almost like a
personal liaison for someonewho's really going through that
heavy grief journey.
Whether that's one month, Ibreak it down into one-on-one
(32:42):
sessions one month, three months, six months, 12 month and 15
month, and that's kind of how Ibreak it down Again with kind of
numerology focused in there alittle bit.
Yeah, just a sprinkle.
So then the way that I work withthe grief companionship is that
I'm there pretty much five toseven days a week, one session a
(33:07):
week, depending on what theirneeds are, and this is where I
involve spirits.
So with my spirit guides thereis one specific for grief, her
name is One who Heals and Cries,and so she does transmediumship
as well as Leon, but I haven'tworked with transmediumship in a
while.
But anyways, back to the greatfocus.
(33:29):
So One who Heals and Criesreally helps with the healing
messages and spiritualconnection on what they need in
the moment.
So we go through a list ofgoals that they want to focus on
throughout the month orwhatever plan they choose and
then from there each session iskind of tailored to that
specific goal and we could evendo like a bi-weekly goal if
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that's a really big need.
But I always try to doincorporate like worksheets or
journal prompts and sometimesit's just talking.
So a lot of the times theseclients sign up for grief
companionship and all it is isjust us really just hanging out
talking about spirituality andwhat it means to grieve.
And then we go through a littlebit of mediumship sometimes,
(34:12):
because when I connect with um,when I connect with them, no
matter what spirit's going tocome through, so our
conversations always have alittle bit of mediumship thrown
in.
Uh, it's it's reallyinteresting to do grief.
Lauren (34:26):
It's such a really beautiful service to provide
someone Like I'm just thinkingabout.
I mean, I lost my brother 20years ago and that's such a
powerful thing.
You said like sometimes it'sjust talking and sometimes
that's all you need, you know,and going through that grief
(34:47):
process is so lonely.
It's so individual and justhaving someone that like is
literally just there to supportyour grief journey is what a
gift that's, so that's such agreat service to provide.
Aaron (35:03):
That is really cool, yeah , and that's kind of where, like
, that line really splitsbetween mediumship and grief,
because the way that I do mymediumship, I want people to
know like I'm not just a medium,I also can be, you know, a
companion or a friend as well.
Right, yeah, right so they.
I like to blend those two.
Sometimes it's a littledifficult to build the boundary
(35:24):
because I I'm just, I'm friendlyand I'm talkative and I love to
laugh, so finding that boundaryis a little difficult sometimes
.
But for the most part I reallyenjoy the community aspect and
really helping someone fromstart to finish in their
grieving path.
And I have people reach out tome even when I first started and
(35:45):
I see the major shift in howthey view the world and how they
are going through their grief.
And that's what I love to seeis when they come reach back out
to me and I see just or justchanges on Facebook, you know, I
see them going through life andthey're healing and doing a lot
better than they were frompoint A.
But there are those clientsthat are so deep in grief that
(36:06):
you know the changes are asapparent, you know, and that
that's kind of the harder part Iwould say you might be the only
person doing beneficial work onfacebook.
Frank (36:17):
I left, I left a long time ago because I'm like this
place is vitriol but I usedfacebook first.
Aaron (36:26):
When I got into this I was burned real bad.
But facebook is a littlecompetitive.
I've noticed just groups andall that.
So I don't work on facebook asmuch.
I want to get into it againbecause that's where my
foundation started and I builtcommunity first.
But I really try to utilize allsocial media.
(36:46):
I mean I have people fromfacebook who follow me to tiktok
.
I have people from Facebook whofollowed me to tick tock.
I have people from tech talkwho followed me to Facebook and
now I'm trying to implementYouTube.
But you know that's a wholebeast in itself.
So it's just.
I'm just trying to get all thecheck boxes and and get
everything set up for my plan Bover here.
So it's just getting theselittle steps to plan B is is the
(37:09):
hardest part right now, fromwhat I've noticed.
Lauren (37:13):
I'm very sorry.
How do you energeticallyprotect yourself from these?
Like I mean, this is reallyheavy emotional stuff.
Do you like any kind of processto just empathically kind of
protect your own emotionscarrying this?
Aaron (37:33):
So a lot of the time it's , um, I would say it's
compartmentalization a littlebit Um, but I also, I paint a
lot, I draw a lot.
Oh, cool, I would say, um, kindof spirits, funny.
So sorry, again, it's, it'salways here, but I paint a lot,
(37:56):
I draw a lot.
Uh, you know, the devilcouldn't catch me but he gave me
the gift of creation throughcopying.
So I love, uh, creating artthat's already been, you know,
characterized or done before.
So that's kind of what I do isI just love to paint and that's
already been, you know,characterized or done before.
So that's kind of what I do isI just love to paint, and that's
really a place where I canescape.
Uh, I'm with my dog partner.
Uh, I'm not really outdoorsy.
(38:17):
I probably should be um videogames.
Frank (38:23):
There's no window in this room so I know it's like out
there.
Aaron (38:33):
Sleeping is a really big escape.
That's kind of my emotionallyde-attached and I can really
breathe.
Yes, I do burn out quite a bit,though, and I I think that
stems mostly from my owndepression and my own healing
that I'm doing.
But the emotional impact ofwhat I hear every single day, I
don't know.
I just kind of live alongsideit and cope in my own ways.
(38:55):
You know, I don't know.
It's just what I go through, Iguess.
But that's what I would answerto that question.
That's my thing.
There's really no definitive.
You know, I cut it off, I don'ttalk to anyone because my work
is 24 7, so it's like right, Idon't know, this is just how I'm
living.
Frank (39:15):
I don't know, that's the healthiest, but it's working
great now you mentioned thatduring your like grief
companionship sessions that youkind of help people set goals
sometimes.
Can you give me an example oflike what a goal would look like
?
Aaron (39:30):
yeah.
So one of the goals let's seeone of the goals that I've had
for my clients um, and thiscould be grief in any way, shape
and form, so this could be evensomeone reaching out for like,
uh, they lost their job.
So I had a client who lost theirgrandmother, lost their job,
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was going through all thesechanges all at once and they
really just wanted someone tohelp them find that purpose in
life where they can move on to adifferent path.
That would kind of almost shapetheir new life.
I would say, you know, afterloss and so like a pros and cons
list of like what they enjoy,and then that's kind of how I
(40:14):
would help pinpoint, but thenalso connecting with spirit, I
also do Oracle cards a littlebit too, but my main focus when
they're like, oh, I need helpwith career, I'll listen with
spirit, and then from there,when they're like, oh, I need
help with career, I'll listenwith spirit and then from there,
um, like again with like thecreative aspect.
So a lot of the times spiritsays like getting into creative
mindset will help them find whatthey need to do in life.
Frank (40:38):
So it sounds like almost like a you help them ground
themselves again.
Aaron (40:42):
Yeah, yeah, bounding and anchoring and then helping them
figure out what they need to donext, that's awesome.
Lauren (40:50):
How does the one who heals and cries?
Is that your guide?
Yeah, how does she support this?
How does she support yourclients, like, how do you?
Aaron (41:06):
is it like, oh, she's coming in and like she's gonna
give me a little guidance onwhat to say, or yes, so when I
work with my spirit team oh andthat also kind of goes into the
protection aspect a little bittoo so when I first started this
and just in general, I alwayshave asked them to bring me
people of love and light and whoneed healing, and so that's
(41:27):
also kind of like thatprotective buffer there.
Yeah, so I know what I'm doingis to focus on healing.
So, like how I know she's hereto support the journey of
healing.
Um, I hear her voice, so I Idefinitely can hear an elderly
woman speaking when I'm reallytuning in to listen.
A lot of the times when they'rehere, they're here 24-7 and
(41:51):
they're just up in the space.
It's not even that I hear aspecific guidance from either,
or it's just like in my soul Iknow, okay, this healing message
is from one who heals and cries, or I know this message is from
your brother, or I know thismessage is from Rocky Boy, and
then that's kind of how I workwith spirit.
Uh, the guidance that one whoheals and cries gives, it's
(42:13):
usually I want to say it's moreof like I don't want to say
healing messages, but just theway and I read in the way that I
read it's just more of.
You can just tell it has ahigher guidance to it than just
like my own self and the waythat I talk and the way that I
(42:35):
speak.
Sometimes the way that shespeaks will kind of be
reiterated through the way thatI speak, and then that's kind of
where you can tell thedifference in who.
I'm working with.
Rocky boys that's not workingwith Rocky boys.
That's not my language.
Rocky boys, we're stern andharsh, but so is one who heals
and cries.
They tell it like it is andthere's really no sugarcoating.
(42:56):
And that's also kind of a hardpart for me where I want to
remain professional and alsofriendly, so I don't like to say
the harsh words or cussing even.
But you know, loved ones havetheir own personalities and
that's who they are here, is whothey are there, and so that's
where that's where it's kind ofdifficult for me to blur that
(43:18):
part when I do readings andconnections.
Frank (43:21):
I hope that answered your question.
Aaron (43:22):
I went on a tangent and then it did Okay.
Frank (43:30):
Can you describe?
Aaron (43:31):
your, your relationship with rocky boy, oh yeah, oh boy.
So he is more of, I would sayI'll tell you each one.
So, um, I have rocky boy.
He is more of a uh, I would saymore of like a protective
fatherly type.
But even then when I listen, Idon't.
I honestly I don't.
That's an interesting pointthere.
(43:52):
I don't fully like, hi, rockyboy, like I will do that, but I
won't.
I haven't in a long time.
They're just all collectivelyhere.
But Rocky boy is again more ofthe protective nature.
When I do connect with him, hedoes speak more gruff and more
(44:15):
like this is what you're doingand you need to knock it off
kind of feeling, whereas one whoheals and cries comes through
with more of the um, softer tone, healing, more of the softer
tone, healing, more of a sassiernote when the way she speaks oh
, I do, she's so funny and she'salways on Nayeli's side, my
(44:35):
partner, she's always on herside.
I'm like come on here and theyall go against me when I'm, but
I'm usually wrong when thathappens.
That's funny, of course.
And then and then Leonon.
He's more quiet.
He usually comes through withhealing, through song, so he'll
channel in through trancemediumship.
(44:57):
And then there's tyler, and hecomes in once in a while.
Frank (45:00):
He's not really a guide, but he's there still uh, is that
the same tyler as the the doc?
Uh, that's awesome.
Aaron (45:07):
He's just kind of stuck around in that way, um, I think,
because it was such a, it waslike the cataclyst of my
spirituality and the mediumshipthat he just kind of stuck
around.
So he'll come through, um, andthen I have jericho and kinetic.
Uh, they.
So this part is kind of where,like it gets a little woo-woo
and that's even like, oh, for mea little bit uh, but jericho
(45:30):
and kinetic, they are mycelestial guardians.
Frank (45:33):
Um, so the term alien we just had a whole series of
episodes about the galacticfederation.
Aaron (45:39):
So yeah, so we get it so, jericho kinetic, I would say
those are the.
They are just so fascinating,but they, I keep those ones.
They're like.
You have your spirit guideshere.
And then I have my celestialguardians.
I, they're the same, but I, Ikeep a definitive line.
And then I have Lillian, who'sa spirit guide.
(46:01):
She's of my Celtic Irishdescent.
One who heals in cries is alsonative American.
I also found her last earthplane life as well, so I have
photos of what she looked like,what Wait, could you send that
to us?
Yeah.
Frank (46:17):
I've always wondered about that, If you were able to
like backtrack that kind ofthing.
It seems like a boy.
Aaron (46:21):
Rocky boy was also a person in history, so I have his
photos as well, please.
Lauren (46:26):
Amazing, yeah, a person in history.
So I have his photos as well,please.
Aaron (46:28):
Amazing, yeah, so cool, um leon.
He was more great plains nativeamerican, I want to say
comanche, but I don't.
I haven't found any.
I haven't done research on himyet, uh, or at all.
Um, uh, who else?
Frank (46:43):
william.
These are incredible names.
These are good names.
It's a good team.
Aaron (46:47):
Oh, I know it's beautiful work too.
Oh, duh feathers facing the sun, um.
So I went through a very bigtransitional phase when I moved
back home to california and itwas like just this end of a
cycle where I was like, um,moving home and finding my place
back home here, um, and shecame through as, uh, the Hopi
(47:09):
sun God.
Uh.
So I got my cousin has a tattooof the other half.
Oh, neat.
Frank (47:15):
Oh, that's awesome.
Aaron (47:17):
Yeah, and then I work with spirit animals.
So I work with bear, and then Ialso work with bison, um, and
then my dog, bucky.
He is my grounding magnet hereto earth plane, so he keeps me
grounded and he'll help me withmy spirit work as well.
Whenever I need like a littleenergy boost, he'll always come
over.
He's always by me when I'mworking to like just
(47:40):
reciprocation of energy.
That's fantastic, it's quitenice.
Frank (47:44):
So this is actually a really good point.
I have a question.
This is a good time to ask it,because it seems like a lot of
your, your spirit team, are likea native American.
How much of your personalculture, of our personal
cultures, is, is an importantpart of our, our, our spirit
(48:04):
team, or our spiritual guidancemoving forward.
Aaron (48:06):
I would say almost every aspect.
Really I would.
I would say almost every aspectbecause when you look at past
lives or just, uh, also just thelineage that you have, or
heritage, there's going to besome sort of influence in your
spirit team from your ancestorsat any given point.
Does that make sense?
(48:28):
No, it does.
It's interesting to think aboutit does.
Frank (48:32):
I don't know why.
For some reason, maybe this ismy like toxic individual
individualism or something but Ialways like kind of kept that
kind of stuff separate separate.
I am half Cuban and likebasically half Scottish Right.
So, uh, but I don't superidentify as being Cuban because
I grew up in a very whiteculture.
(48:53):
I mean, look at me, hear me,but I have family who, like are
still very much steeped in thatculture and that tradition.
So I've always been like, oh, Ialways.
I guess I'm just unnecessarilydisassociated from that heritage
element of it all.
And then, same thing, my, myvery white Scottish side of the
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family, like I don't have a lotof connection culturally to that
because they came from Chicago.
So I think, oh, cool, chicago.
Like I don't think much beyondthat.
Lauren (49:26):
Yeah, but I bet once you learned the names of your
spirit guides, you'd be like oh,okay, I mean, I'm so jealous of
your spirit guides' names.
Frank (49:34):
at the very least, every single one of them could be a
band name.
Aaron (49:38):
There's a really interesting teaching point too,
with learning your spiritguides' names.
It's not as complicated as youwould think.
If you need help, let me know I.
I there's, it's super easy, sowhat I'll teach you real quick
sure yeah, yeah you guys coulddo it also with like after the
podcast or whatever, uh, butwhat you do is you close your
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eyes and then you just do reallythree big deep breaths and then
you can ask in your mind's eyeor out loud can the first spirit
guide who's followed me frombirth to now, can you give me
your name and then the firstname that you hear you can
attach to your spirit guide, andwhether that evolves or changes
later on, at least nowsomething you have, something to
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call upon when you're workingwith spirit or wanting to
connect in meditation andsometimes it could be a family
member who's passed wanting toconnect in meditation, and
sometimes it could be a familymember who's passed.
And that's kind of where theancestral or the heritage or
culture aspect come into play alittle bit that is very
interesting I did one meditationone time frank knows this and I
(50:41):
.
Lauren (50:41):
I said I was like just about to fall asleep and I said
is anyone like in here with me?
And his male voice said or Iwas like just about to fall
asleep and I said is anyone likein here with me?
And his male voice said or Iwas like what's your name?
And he said Stefan.
I said okay.
Frank (50:57):
Now remind me, did you hear that?
I heard a male voice.
Like with your ear.
Lauren (51:02):
In my brain.
Aaron (51:04):
Okay.
Lauren (51:04):
Not outside my ear.
Aaron (51:05):
In my brain.
That's how I hear.
Lauren (51:08):
A male voice said Stefan .
Frank (51:13):
I don't think he likes you doing the impersonation.
Lauren (51:15):
I don't know.
Sorry, stefan, that's just aswing, I don't know, and I said
what do I need to know?
Or something like that, and hesaid, keep going.
I was like there's no way.
Aaron (51:32):
I made that up because I didn't even.
I had never heard that.
That's how I feel about mymediumship when I connect with
clients.
So I do a majority of myreadings on tiktok live.
Uh, about 99 of them.
They want that's the, that'sone of the other things.
Uh, with the right now theoryand also like our attention
spans are so blip, so I do allmy readings on TikTok.
(51:52):
That's just been the easiestway for me to get clients.
And then I do private session,but the ratio is not there.
But with TikTok live, it's justcrazy how you can get
validation just through a chat.
It's really mind-blowing.
Lauren (52:11):
Do you do spirit-led or are you doing like I'm going to
choose who's in the chat?
Aaron (52:18):
Yeah, so with my way that I work, spirit-led is just too
loud, because it's just too loudfor me to really pinpoint who's
here, because I my chat dependsit and the most people I've had
was 600, but it's been verylittle.
I get like 50 to 100 people inmy chats at a time and that's
(52:39):
and it jumps.
So it's like it could be lessor more in like a minute and
spirit led just is so difficult.
So what I do is I build a list.
Whoever wants to pay gets on mylist, and that's how I do my
readings.
I'll only do maybe five to tenclients uh, live, just to make
it a little easier on me energywise and then I'll go through
(53:00):
that list and each one getsabout 10 to 15 minutes.
Sometimes it's more because Ican't just stop at the vibe.
Yeah, I like to ramble and sothey really get, you know, more
minutes than allotted.
Um, as a little secret tipthere.
But when I connect with spirit,yeah, the validations, it's
just crazy.
Um, and the definitive of who'swho, I really try to keep it to
(53:22):
one person, like one spiritentity, because it's just too
much if it's like they have likea list of like four people they
want to connect with or theycome through with like a.
I have clients who will comethrough with, like a grocery
list of who they want to connectwith.
In those 10 minutes I can onlypull as much as I can, you know.
So, yeah, yeah, sometimes I'llspeed run it and I'll try to get
validations for each, but it isso difficult and that that's
(53:43):
the other part too.
I wish people understood howhard this work was.
So my focus on my tiktok.
I'm gonna start to try to justdo like daily vlogs of day in my
life or like this is what I'mdoing today.
I don't know how to do that yet.
Content is very difficult, butyeah, I want people to see like
you know, I'm not just a medium,like yes, I, I do connect with
(54:04):
people who've passed, but I alsogo through my own emotions, my
own mental health, my ownhealing, and so that's also one
thing I make very clear withclients At least I try to and
the community I'm building that,hey, I'm also a human too.
I'm not just a telephone.
Frank (54:19):
Yeah, you've got to respect the person too.
Aaron (54:21):
I think that's one of the hard parts with seeing
mainstream mediums working isthey get all the expectations
and the this is what you'regetting and this is who I am and
very showboaty.
But there is a person behindthat as well, Right.
Frank (54:36):
Right, yeah, important to note.
Yeah, for trying to figure outlike your spirit guides, names
and stuff like that.
You know, I just zero percenttrust my imagination.
My, my brain's always firingand I, I will come up with.
Oh, my, my lead spirit guy'sname is carl's jr and I'll be
(54:59):
like I'm gonna call you carl'sjr now, and of course, on east
coast that's hardy's.
So like, how have you been ableto develop, like your ability
to separate, uh, yourimagination from what you're
actually receiving, or do youjust go with it and if there's a
course correction later on, youjust accept that?
Aaron (55:20):
I just go with it.
I don't know, they've just kindof come to me and I'm like,
okay, that's who you are, allright oh, frank's gonna be like
it's Carl's Jr, it's Slim Jimthat could be like a cowboy
figure or something.
That's a good question.
Yeah, I mean, I honestly myimagination, that's that's.
(55:43):
That's interesting, because Idon't I have imagination, but
this is, it's too real andgrounding and anchoring to be
just my imagination at thispoint.
Yeah, whoa, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Frank (55:58):
It's so interesting.
Aaron (56:00):
I'm not saying it's your ability, I'm second-guessing my
ability, no, no, but it's a goodpoint though, because how do
you know that it's not you beingcrazy or kooky, or you know?
Congrats, aaron, you're bananas, but it's, it's interesting.
That is an interesting point,but no, I mean, I just go with
it If that's what they're givingme, and that goes into how to
(56:21):
build your intuition.
Uh, there's three aspects thereof um, trust, self and pain,
pain, and those three things canhelp you open up with spirit.
Uh, when you trust, you justhave to trust with what you're
hearing, and that's that'swhat's.
That's what it's going to be,you know that's yeah and pain.
Frank (56:40):
Trust self and pain.
Can you.
Can you go through that realquick?
Aaron (56:44):
yeah.
So with uh, trust, self andpain, uh, three ways to open
your psychic or intuitiveabilities.
So trust if you can't trustyourself your instincts are your
own power then how would youtrust another person or the
messages that you receive?
So that's lesson number one istrust.
So just trusting the voicesthat you're hearing here and
(57:05):
trusting here with your heart.
So it's just like you know, youcan't go into a medium reading
with expectations.
You just really have to go inwith an open heart, open mind to
what you're receiving.
And that's how I do.
My mediumship is, you know, butI'm, and I used to be very anal
about that too.
But now I've learned, like Ican't, I just have to give them
(57:28):
what I hear and hope that itsticks, because at some point it
will.
If it doesn't right away, inthe next couple days, it will.
The next one is self, and that'sself-care, self-reflection.
When you love yourself, carefor yourself and truly at the
center of self, not necessarilyself-centered then you'll start
to heal from grief, have a morejoyful life and open spiritually
(57:51):
.
So one of the second teachingsespecially big in my grief
teachings is self-care, andthat's not just, like you know,
cooking or watching TV or takinga bath.
It's like that deep soulself-care that you're taking
care of yourself and that'swhat's going to help with grief
and everything.
And then pain that wouldnecessarily be working on trauma
(58:12):
, shadow work.
It could also be a little bitof physical pain, if you think
that would also fit there foryou.
So you have to sit with yourpain and get to know it.
Yes, it's uncomfortable to faceit, but physical death,
addiction and own mistakes,actions are all counted as pain.
But you can also grow and workwith it.
(58:33):
And holding on to pain can leadto anger and so on.
But with pain and with grief.
One of the other big teachingsthat I teach is you have to
learn to live alongside grief.
People say that they want theclosure.
They're coming to me to getclosure with their loved one,
but they'll never.
They're not gonna.
You're chasing a unicorn withclosure because you're not gonna
(58:56):
find it.
You just have to learn to have,learn to build a new sense of
normalcy with the grief in yourlife and how to move forward.
And that's where a lot ofpeople lose that stepping stone
because they're so hyper andespecially the society very
focused on closure basis.
But it's you're not going tofind closure.
Yeah yeah, there's no end tothat.
(59:18):
That's.
That's one of the big things Itry to teach people whether that
lands and whether that thatworks, and you know people want
to listen Then, and whether thatworks and people want to listen
, then that's kind of what Iteach with that as well.
Frank (59:30):
All important things.
Aaron, please give everybodyyour plugs.
Aaron (59:34):
Tell them where to find you, oh yeah, so you can find me
on TikTok at AaronHarrisLive.
You can go to my website,AaronHarrisLivecom.
I also offer free grief supportonce a month and I'm also
opening up an LGBT grief supportgroup as well once a month
Hopefully that's in the works.
Classes found on the website,Private sessions found on the
(59:57):
website Everything is on mywebsite pretty much YouTube,
pretty much all social mediaYouTube, Instagram, Facebook,
all the same.
Handle Aaron Harris Live.
Lauren (01:00:06):
Thank you so much for spending time with us and
telling us your story.
Aaron (01:00:10):
Thanks for having me.
Frank (01:00:13):
We'll definitely talk to you soon.
Keep in touch and send us someof those cool things that you
collect?
Lauren (01:00:16):
Yeah, I'll send you some more.
Thank you, Aaron.
Talk to you soon Good one Bye.
Aaron (01:00:21):
Bye.
Frank (01:00:24):
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