March 27, 2025 • 69 mins
DeeDee Hawk, an incredible psychic medium and team member of Austin's MetaphysicalU takes us on a mesmerizing journey through the unseen world of elementals, spirit communication, and animal telepathy. A healer with Navajo roots, DeeDee shares how her deep connection with nature blossomed into extraordinary psychic gifts.
The conversation reveals fascinating insights into how trees communicate, and her descriptions of fairies offer a rare glimpse into this hidden dimension of our natural world. Her approach to spirit communication emphasizes respect, permission-asking, and reciprocity—a framework that has served her well across all her metaphysical work.
Ready to discover the elemental beings in your own backyard? Join us for this enchanting conversation that will forever change how you perceive the natural world around you.
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Lauren (00:01):
Welcome, friends.
In this episode, Frank and Italked to Dee Dee Hawk, a healer
, animal communicator andpsychic medium who works with
elementals.
Frank (00:10):
I'm Lauren Leon and I'm inviting a gnome out for a
coffee.
Lauren (00:14):
We are a married couple learning how to develop our own
intuition, and this is episode67 of Claire Voyaging.
67 of Claire Voyaging.
Wayfeather Media presentsClaire Voyaging.
Frank (00:51):
What's going on?
Frank was rapping again.
I always do, I know.
Why don't you give us a little?
No, it wasn't good, it'lldamage my reputation it was
something about coffee andlattes don't worry about it
behind the scenes it'll makemore sense later voyaging.
Hello everyone how's it going?
I hope this day finds you well,really, really having good
(01:12):
energy out there let's get to itkeep it up yeah, well, I hope
everyone is doing great, becausethere are a lot of astrological
things going on.
This is not exactly an episodeabout that, but I'm just saying
my tiktok's going off about theastrology stuff.
Yeah, everyone's like do youfeel?
Lauren (01:30):
what I'm feeling and the kind of the general sense is
like everything feels hard andit's not just because of
circumstances, it's also theenergy out there, the planets,
the moon, eclipse season, whatthe actual F?
(01:52):
Hey y'all, we got some newdonations for our documentary.
That's right, yes, so here's alittle shout out.
Here we go.
Here we go, thank you, tiffany.
Tiffany, carol, carol and Lori.
Frank (02:05):
Lori, a little shout out here we go, here we go, thank
you tiffany, tiffany, carol,carol and laurie, laurie, my
laurie, a round of my laurieshe's ours, she's our laurie
thank you guys claim her.
Thanks everybody you guys.
Lauren (02:19):
We only have 82 days left of this as of today oh
we're recording this on mondaylauren likes countdowns.
Frank (02:28):
Drives me crazy when we're on a road trip.
Lauren (02:29):
She's like you hate that .
Frank (02:30):
She's like oh, it's only 150 more miles left.
I'm like, do not say that againif we're on a long road trip.
Lauren (02:37):
He just thinks that's a nightmare.
Frank (02:39):
I'm like no, no, 42 more miles no, let me, let me zone
out and get there before I knowit.
Don't count it down the wholeway.
Lauren (02:46):
Why did you have to bring it to my attention?
We only have 82 days left ofthis fundraising campaign for
our documentary and there aresome great perks to donating,
most importantly, helping us toget the thing actually made,
that's a big part.
But beyond that, some funbehind the scenes stuff shout
(03:07):
outs, like you just heard.
Go check it out and we can't doit without your support, so
thank you thank you thank youfor being the wind beneath our
wings wow you know somethingabout that song sounds um, it
sounds a little belittling orsomething.
I've always loved that song, butit's like you are the wind.
(03:30):
You let me soar.
You are the wind beneath mywings.
Frank (03:35):
Yeah.
Lauren (03:36):
I don't know.
Frank (03:38):
I mean, I think that was a phrase before.
It was a song, was it?
Yeah, it's like you know, it'sa wind, wind in my sails, kind
of thing I don't know.
Lauren (03:47):
I'm gonna have to, I'm gonna have to consult google or
chat gpt on this one.
I don't like it uh I know youare I know it from I know it,
you're more than that may we bethe wind beneath your wings.
Frank (04:01):
We are.
Lauren (04:02):
We are just here to serve we want to help you soar
like an eagle yeah okay, thedocument talking about the
documentary brings me to today'sguest, which is didi hawk.
uh, she is part of the team atmetaphysical you, which was
started by sarah reeves, andwe've had sarah reeves as a
guest before episode 12.
She's amazing.
The team at metaphysical youhas their own podcast called MP
(04:28):
unleashed, and they doinvestigations in Austin, texas,
and they come from a place ofknowing that spirits exist
instead of trying to prove thatthey do.
So I'm just saying that becauseif you hear us mentioned Sarah
while we're talking to DD,that's who we're talking about
Sarah Reeves.
Uh, they work together and whenfrank and I go to austin to
film our documentary, we willget to see firsthand how they
(04:51):
all work how it works yeah, howthe sausage gets made.
I hate that okay, so I'm notlet's cut that part out.
Frank (05:02):
No.
Lauren (05:05):
Okay, so, frank, let's get.
Let's just get to Didi.
Frank (05:09):
Let's get to Didi this was a great conversation.
Lauren (05:12):
She's just got like really calming, sweet,
lighthearted energy and I justreally enjoyed talking to her
and talking about elementalswhich we've never talked about
on the show, Really.
Frank (05:24):
Listen, there's this.
I was just talking to Laurenabout this.
There's this.
There's something going on withthe Metaphysical you team.
They know more than they'reletting on, I'm pretty sure, and
they're very calm about it.
I haven't figured out what thesecret is.
There's a secret here.
I will get to the bottom of it.
Lauren (05:43):
I promise all y'all, but you're all too too intuitive
they're too chill, psychic andlike just really awesome so I've
got my eye on you I don't knowwhat you're you're trying to
uncover I have no real threatsto offer not at all I'm gonna
(06:05):
ask a question I'm gonna ask youso many things, um, but yeah, I
mean, dd was an absolute joy totalk to, yes, so let's just,
let's just press play well,let's just circle the wagons
circle the wagons, circle thewagons.
(06:26):
Roll the tape.
Dee Dee Hawk, thank you so muchfor joining us today.
On Claire Voyaging, we are justtickled that you are with us.
We love to hear people'sbackstories, and I know you've
got a good one, so can you tellus a bit about yourself, how you
got into doing the work thatyou're doing now?
DeeDee (06:48):
Yeah, I'd be happy to.
First of all, thank you bothfor having me on your podcast.
I really appreciate the ask.
I was really blown away.
So thank you so much for havingme.
As far as, like I would say, myjourney, it really started with
a deep connection that I havewith nature and animals and that
(07:11):
later blew up intounderstanding energy and spirit
communication.
I don't know if it's because Iwas born on a reservation, being
part of the Navajo Nation, Iwas surrounded by a lot of
nature and animals all the time.
Eventually, what I ended updoing is I ended up moving to
(07:32):
Austin back at the end of 99.
And over the years I've justimmersed myself in metaphysical
studies.
Thankfully, I've been able togo on a lot of like a better
term ghost investigations.
I've been on one with the 9-0podcast, I've been on a couple
(07:54):
with the Real Ghosts Of and thenour own MP1 Leashed.
So that has really helped myintuitive work really kick into
high gear and use all my senses.
So, yeah, mainly my work is allabout healing, whether it's for
animals, people or unseenenergies in the space.
Lauren (08:19):
So were you like was this like a thing when you were
a kid?
Like, was this like a thingwhen you were a kid, like, oh,
dd has a sensitivity, or is itjust kind of um in your family
like everybody?
Or, you know, like a lot ofpeople have it?
DeeDee (08:34):
yeah, it's, it's.
It's something I've already hadalways had in my life, but I
didn't really start to exploreit until I was much older.
Um, there'd be little thingshere and there.
For example, we went to myfamily and I went to go look at
a house to rent and I rememberwalking up to the house and
(08:56):
everybody went inside, greetedwith the real estate agent and
everything, and had a greatconversation and, of course, as
a kid, you're not going to standthere and listen to the real
estate agent, you're going torun around.
So that's exactly what I did.
I went to the kitchen, I wentto the living room, I raced to
the bedrooms and I was like okay, and then I realized through
the kitchen there is a basementand I started to take a couple
(09:20):
steps down into the basement andI just I'm like okay, no
problem, and I backed out and Iwaited for my family in the car
because something in there justdid not set well with me wow
Frank (09:33):
oh, I assume you didn't end up with the house no,
thankfully my parents did notchoose that house.
Lauren (09:41):
Yeah, yeah it could have caused some unnecessary trauma.
I would imagine the fear ofthat basement.
Frank (09:50):
Wow so let me ask you, did you?
You said you were born on a, ona reservation, did you?
Were, you like, raised on thereservation too?
DeeDee (09:59):
no, I was not raised on the reservation.
I was adopted uh pretty young.
So um, I was adopted.
Both my parents are white.
Frank (10:08):
Okay, okay, do you, I mean?
So I've heard so much aboutpeople who have.
Recently we interviewed someone, Aaron Harris, who same thing,
actually, which is really funny,yeah founded that so much of
his psychic intuition was solinked to his heritage.
I guess my question to you islike, how much of that Navajo
(10:32):
heritage do you kind of tap intowhen you're doing your thing?
DeeDee (10:37):
Well, I would say all of it, all the time.
Frank (10:41):
That's what Aaron said too, yeah.
DeeDee (10:44):
I don't really think I can say like a what piece or
portion of it is, because it'sso a part of who I am that I
just I don't know, it's just apart of who I am so.
But you know, I'm also goingthrough the journey of finding
out more details about myadoption and how all that worked
(11:06):
.
So as we speak right now, I'mfinding out more information and
finding out my bloodline.
So it should be pretty fun tofigure out all those details.
Frank (11:17):
Oh, wow, so this is ongoing.
DeeDee (11:20):
Yeah, it's ongoing.
I decided to jump into it andexplore it.
I didn't really have anyinterest for a long, long time
and then now it's a.
I'm like you know what?
I'm curious, you know.
Lauren (11:30):
I want to know what's in my background.
DeeDee (11:32):
I want to know, like you know, do I have?
Do I have healers in mybackground?
Do I have healers in my lineage?
Um, you know, do it?
Is there a medicine woman in my, in my bloodline?
There's lots of possibilities.
So I figured.
Frank (11:51):
I'd rather dig my heels in now and find out.
Yeah, yeah, that's really cool.
So let me ask you the, the like, energy and spirit, the way you
tap into stuff.
How does it present to you?
What is it?
Or, if you want to use typicalterms, what are you?
What are the Claire's that youtap into?
DeeDee (12:06):
Well, I'd have to say, for me, animal communication is
more telepathic.
It's about tuning into ananimal's energy.
They carry a lot of emotionsand they have so many thoughts.
I feel like sometimes, whenthey're speaking to me, they
speak to me in emotions.
They also give me images andsensations rather than words.
(12:32):
I would say this one's kind offunny, but one of the most
recent ones that I got was fromthe point of view of a very
small, small, petite dog, andwhat he was showing me is he was
showing me from his point ofview of a very small, small,
petite dog, and what he wasshowing me is he was showing me
from his point of view therefrigerator open, so basically
looking at like ankle high upinto refrigerator, and he's
(12:54):
showing me the back of a bottleand it's specifically red on top
and white on bottom and I'mlike what are you showing me?
And he had a request for whatthat was and then I realized
it's ready.
Lauren (13:10):
Whip.
DeeDee (13:11):
I'm like.
So he's showing me from hispoint of view.
He hasn't been getting hisready whip and she goes.
I forgot that was in therefrigerator.
Lauren (13:27):
That is so funny, gosh, that is so amazing, oh no these
little dogs.
Frank (13:33):
Oh, finally someone, someone who's listening to me
and it's like can you get theready whip?
DeeDee (13:37):
already exactly, I just want a little whipped cream yeah
, and I'm like this is theweirdest image I've ever gotten
and I'm like, is that Ready Whip?
Lauren (13:48):
That's amazing oh my gosh, that's so cool.
Frank (13:53):
So that was just like imagery, that kind of popped in
your head.
Did you know this dog, or wasit just like a friend's dog or
something?
DeeDee (14:00):
This was for an animal communication reading.
Frank (14:03):
Got it.
DeeDee (14:05):
She just asked.
The owner was like well, youknow, I feel like I just kind of
want to do a gut check, see howthings are going and, you know,
make sure that we have a strongcommunication.
I'm like that's great.
I love that.
So let's dive in deeper intothat.
And at the very end I had askedthe dog I'm like well, was
there anything else that youwanted me to communicate to your
owner?
(14:25):
And that's the final image.
Was the ready whip bottle?
I'm like okay.
Frank (14:30):
That's amazing.
DeeDee (14:30):
I will do that.
I will get that communicatedright away.
Frank (14:34):
So it was straight up.
A last but not least.
Lauren (14:37):
Yeah, I'd like to put in a formal request for my ready
whip.
DeeDee (14:41):
I am lacking ready whip in my life.
Can you please help me out?
Lauren (14:46):
That's so funny.
Oh my gosh, I love that so much.
They have so much to say andwe're just like.
They stare at us and we're likewhat?
I know?
Our dog has like a specifictime, two specific times of day,
that he comes and harassesfrank and like follows him to
(15:08):
the kitchen, like, punches himin the foot, like, and he's like
staring at him and frank's likewhat, and then he'll like bark
at him.
Frank (15:17):
It's like that's his treat time it's treat time and
it's so specific but I'm likelately, I'm like, dude, I
haven't gotten you out for walksenough.
I gotta, we gotta, lay off thetreats.
I'm sorry I don't, he does notlike it.
DeeDee (15:29):
We, we argue yeah, I, I can.
I can totally understand wherefrank's coming from as far as
like the animals, because thefirst thing in the morning we
have, uh, an old maine coon, hisname is tokyo, and he purposely
waits yeah, he purposely waitsuntil I get up and actually show
up in the kitchen and as soonas I do, he starts talking and I
(15:53):
know exactly what he wants.
He's like give me food, give mewater, give me food and water,
yeah, and I'm like, and I havewhat we call a toll.
I'm like the toll is a bodybump where he bumps his body
against my legs and then I dowhat he wants.
So, I'm like body bump.
Lauren (16:08):
He's like ugh, fine, oh my gosh.
We had a Maine Coon.
He was 17 when he passed and hewas a talker Like just he was
just, you know, big guy, Likelovable, but so quirky, like
just the weirdest cat in theworld.
Frank (16:30):
Oh man, that's so fun.
So.
So, what were the?
What were some of the thingsthat you did?
To like start developing your,your sensitivity to your, your,
your abilities your sensitivity,to your abilities.
DeeDee (16:51):
Well, we had a female cat show up on our porch and
just decided she was never goingto leave, didn't know her, and
when we would walk out of thehouse she would rub up on our
body and love on us.
And then, eventually, wecouldn't help it.
We started feeding her ofcourse yeah, yes, of course.
And then she eventually had alitter and of course we watched
(17:14):
those babies.
And out of her litter, um,there was one particular cat by
the name of brando.
And brando made it very clearto us from the very beginning I
refuse to be an inside cat, soyou better let me out.
So we're like, all right, allright, we'll let you out.
So we had a routine of himgoing out, fighting whatever was
(17:36):
in the neighborhood, comingback people torn, ripped, you
know, a chunk of fur gone, achunk of you know skin missing,
and he would come home and hewould sit there and be real
pitiful and this is kind of likesemi during the cooler months
here in Austin.
And so I would have a chair Iwas sitting in and I had a
(17:58):
blanket in my lap and he'd waitfor me to get situated, he'd pop
into my lap and then just passout.
He'd wait for me to getsituated, he'd pop into my lap
and then just pass out.
Um, and then, when that wouldhappen, I'm mindlessly watching
television, but at the same timeI was putting my hands on him
and eventually this, we becamein tune with one another which
was not at all what I expected,um, but then I started realizing
(18:22):
like I was helping him heal andhe would sleep in my, my lap,
um, until I started to move, soprobably like an hour or so, and
then I'd start to move and he'dhe'd be out, go back out, and
we'd have this cycle over andover and over, um, for the
longest time, where he wouldjust come in and be like fix me
(18:43):
heal me.
So he'd get my lap and we do thesame thing, and it just became
a routine for a long time.
And then I then once I startedgetting in tune with him and I
could start hearing him, and itjust was a slow progression.
Lauren (19:00):
Wow, Were you like what is happening with?
DeeDee (19:04):
my hands.
Lauren (19:05):
Did you like know, okay, I've got something.
Or did it take a little whileum?
DeeDee (19:14):
at first I think I I fought it because I didn't want
to have to really dive into it.
I didn't want to have to like,really be like, okay, is this
really happening?
And then there was a party thatwe had gone to, a mutual
friends party, and there was aguy there who kept saying you
(19:35):
know, I I got to go see thesurgeon, I've got this hole in
my hand.
You know, I can't, I can't getit to heal.
And I was like, well, let metake a look at it.
And he was like OK, and in myhead I started Basically kind of
picturing like his skin movingtowards the center of his hand
and pulling it from every angleof the wound and just moving it
(19:59):
towards the center.
And I just kept doing that andthat was my quote-unquote party
trick um and eventually uh, hesaid he didn't have to go
through surgery, anything likethat, and he didn't have to go
see anybody else, and I was justlike, okay, maybe this is a
(20:21):
little bit more than what Ithink it is.
I'm like, yeah, well, you know.
So I think there's just beenlittle things here and there
that have kind of developed overtime and have been my sign.
But for a while there I didn'twant to read the signs, I didn't
want to read that I could dothis, it, it, it.
It really put me in a weirdspace and for acceptance.
(20:42):
But eventually I was like, okay, I can't say that I don't have
this any longer, like it's justgoing to be part of me now.
Lauren (20:51):
Yeah, what do you think that hesitation was?
DeeDee (20:55):
Oh man, there's so much I would say with my faith, I
think, with my faith was thebiggest one.
I think with my faith was thebiggest one, wow, because my, my
, my birth, my, my, my adoptedmom.
She knows I have gifts.
So like that's not any any kindof new thing to her, like she
knows but, my mother-in-law notat all Interested in hearing
(21:20):
anything about my gifts.
Whoa, yeah, totally, totallyjuxtaposition.
So that was really hard becauseit's like well then, who do you
tell, now that you haveadmitted to yourself that you
have these gifts, who do youtell, who do you share this with
?
And that became a verycumbersome, I guess, reveal.
(21:43):
Yeah, of course my husbandknows um and um, my immediate
family knows.
But sharing that, even with mymother-in-law, uh like say, for
example, there was a momentwhere she and I were just in the
kitchen together and we werejust hanging out and this is
early AM morning, nobody's up,it's just her and I, and we both
(22:07):
have our cup of coffee.
And down the hall comes hermother, her mother-in-law, and
I'm like oh, and she comes inand she's standing behind my
mother-in-law in the kitchen andI'm just looking at her and I'm
like I don't know who this is.
Lauren (22:25):
Oh boy.
DeeDee (22:26):
And she said can you, can you, can you deliver a
message for me?
And I'm like yes, ma'am.
And she said can you tell?
Her that nobody takes as goodas care as my boy, of my boy, as
she does, and I was like yeah.
I'll tell her oh wow, and I Ididn't know it, but, um, my
(22:49):
husband later told me that, um,when she was coming to the end
of her life, she actually stayedin one of the rooms downstairs,
in that hallway that she camefrom.
Wow, so she spent her last daysin that house, wow.
Yeah, how did she take?
Lauren (23:06):
that Like, did you blurt it out or were you like I gotta
tell you something, yeah.
DeeDee (23:11):
Cause that's the one thing about message messages you
have to deliver them.
So I was like, oh, this isgoing to be uncomfortable and
awkward, yeah, so I.
So I was like I took a sip ofcoffee and I said, um, that
morning good courage, right yeahand I'm like, can I share
something with you?
(23:32):
and she's like, sure.
And I'm like, uh, I see thiswoman coming down the hallway,
so she's got a nightgown on andshe's got a, a robe and, um, she
wants me to tell you that noone takes care of her son as
well as you do.
And then it was just silence.
(23:53):
Oh my god, nothing was said.
You could just tell it was veryuncomfortable for her, yeah,
and then it got uncomfortablefor me and then, as if it wasn't
enough already yeah, yeah, andthen, um, it just felt awkward
so I didn't.
(24:14):
You know, I didn't pursue or askher any more follow-up
questions or anything like that,but that was that was.
That was it, and we haven'treally talked about it since wow
, so she never, she never reallycame around, huh.
Frank (24:24):
No, wow Does she have like her own, her own faith that
that conflicts with her.
DeeDee (24:32):
I, I do, I do believe it probably does conflict with her
faith.
Lauren (24:36):
Yeah.
DeeDee (24:38):
She's old school she's she's in her eighties, so I
don't know how much of that shewould be accepting of of um, but
yeah, it seems like there's avery defined line there.
That happened with that wasunspoken.
Frank (24:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and just out of curiosity, not that
it matters, but what faith isthat?
Because I've got a littlescoreboard going here.
DeeDee (25:04):
I don't necessarily know what that, what that is, I'll
have to.
I'll have to ask her.
Frank (25:09):
I don't really know let me know it's heavily weighted in
some directions you work withelementals, right, or do you?
Lauren (25:20):
okay?
Can you talk about that alittle bit?
We've never had someone on ourpodcast that works with or sees
or senses elementals I think weonly talked about it once, and I
think it was with alexis okay,yeah, we had alexis and eric and
eric on yeah uh, from somealchemist um they're so they're
(25:43):
so cool, I love them.
Frank (25:45):
We didn't talk about it that much.
I love this line of questioningyes.
Lauren (25:52):
Can you tell us what that is?
What elementals are?
The first time I ever evenheard about it was Frank
listening to the night owlpodcast.
He started listening to itbefore I did and he's like, yeah
, did you know?
Supposedly fairies are real andalso tree spirits, yeah, more.
(26:15):
But I'd love to hear you talkabout it.
DeeDee (26:19):
Yeah, totally so for me.
Um, in pioneer farms there'sthis great tree, um, she's
massive and huge, um she, um.
Basically, we went to pioneerfarms gosh, I don't know, we've
(26:40):
been so many times um, but Iwent with a group of people.
That's a place in austin,yeah's a place here in Austin.
It's called Pioneer Farms.
It's one of where one of theepisodes on the NIDAL podcast
was uh made and they also had,like uh, repeat, uh tours of the
area on the NIDAL um.
(27:01):
So I went and um I, there'sthis huge tree.
You, basically, when you comeinto her area, I knew that I had
to, like, introduce myselffirst before I could even get
close to her.
Um, it's just like this feelingof royalty, like you're in the
(27:22):
presence of this elderlyknowledgeable, seen everything,
tree, and so before I even gotclose to her, I had to ask her
permission to walk into herspace and I waited and I waited
and I waited and eventually shegave me permission and I went up
(27:43):
to her and started talking toher.
Um, we eventually returned andI did the same thing.
Before I approached her, Iasked her permission and she let
me come close, and one of herrequests was um.
When I see you next time, canyou?
She's like it's been a verylong time, because Pioneer Farms
(28:06):
was actually Native Americanland.
And so she had said to me it'sbeen a long time since I've had
anybody sing to me.
That's Native.
She's like can you come backand can you sing to me?
And I'm like, yeah, not knowingwhat I was singing, but I did.
Yeah, not knowing what I wassaying, but I did um.
(28:30):
So that second time I came tosee her I had an offering for
her, um and um, as I had theoffering, I also sang to her as
well and um, standing close tothe tree was my uh friend jack's
wolf.
Uh, who was originally a partof mp1, leashed um, right, he
was.
Yeah, he was standing there, uh,listening to me and he's just
(28:52):
crying and I'm walking aroundthe base of the tree singing to
her and just pouring as muchlove into her as I could.
And it was after that, thatvisit, that I could start to see
things that were in the woods,things that were up in the trees
(29:13):
.
They first started off asshadows, and so I feel like in
my gut, like that gift came fromher.
I didn't have it before that oh, that is interesting oh my god
okay, okay.
Frank (29:31):
Well, I have a couple, a couple of questions real quick
about this.
Lauren (29:34):
Go for it also that made me feel emotional, like that's
so beautiful it was veryemotional.
DeeDee (29:41):
I I was trying not to, I I was crying, but I was singing
, but at the same time I waslike crying.
I was like because every time Ilooked at Jax I could not get
emotional.
Lauren (29:51):
Yeah, oh my gosh, what were you singing?
DeeDee (29:56):
I sing to her.
It's a.
I'm trying to think what songis it?
It's a I'm trying to think whatsong is it the Sweetest Gift by
Sade?
Lauren (30:12):
Great.
Frank (30:13):
I guess it's better than Highway to Hell, which is what I
like.
The tree's like get out of herethe tree says I made a poor
choice you don't have permissionanymore okay, let me ask this.
(30:40):
Okay, what was the sense yougot?
How did you know that this waslike, like you put it, royalty
of a tree?
DeeDee (30:48):
I could feel the boundary before I got.
I felt like the boundary of,like a threshold, basically
around her and I wanted, when Isensed that threshold, I wanted
to honor that before I went anyfurther.
Frank (31:02):
Okay.
DeeDee (31:03):
Wow yeah.
Frank (31:06):
So what are the other other trees?
Just a bunch of dorks hangingaround like saying I don't care.
DeeDee (31:11):
I, you know, I don't know exactly, but they, they are
, they all are connected.
So, but for her specifically,like she has seen everything.
She's the oldest tree there.
She is by far way completelyfull of a lot more knowledge
(31:32):
than any any any other tree thatI've interacted with, and she's
full.
She's full of so much love andshe, she loves the land that
she's on, she loves everythingthat happens there.
She just tries to, you know,know, reach as many people as
she can, um, so, yeah, I, I justreally love being around her.
Her energy is just amazingthat's really cool so this is
(31:54):
why the giving tree?
Lauren (31:55):
like kind of pisses me off, because oh, the giving tree
like does that.
Does that bug you?
That story, like this tree isjust like oh sure, boy, I'll
give you everything you everwanted.
DeeDee (32:07):
But like I don't know, he's not honoring that tree at
all you know, I hadn't reallythought about it, but you're
right, he isn't no, he's notsinging songs to the tree we
stopped around here.
Frank (32:21):
It's like no, this book sucks yeah, our daughter got
real sad.
Lauren (32:24):
We read that to her like once and it's like no, this
book sucks.
Yeah, our daughter got real sad.
We read that to her like onceand she's like it's really sad.
We're like you know what it is.
It's messed up.
Frank (32:33):
I get the message, but still.
Lauren (32:34):
Okay.
Frank (32:35):
Sorry.
So what would have happened ifyou didn't ask for permission to
approach?
DeeDee (32:43):
I don't think I would have had the same interaction
with her.
Okay, I don't think that wouldhave been a possibility.
I feel like when you come to atree, you have to pay attention
to the cues that they're givingyou when you approach, because
not every tree is going to, youknow, ask you to ask permission.
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Some are just like hey and theyand they just want to gossip.
A lot of trees gossip.
Lauren (33:11):
No, really.
Yes, oh, please, please saymore about that.
DeeDee (33:17):
Right.
So I we went to uh oneinvestigation and there is a
tree that overhangs basicallylike splits the fence between
one property and the next.
And so I'm walking around theperimeter of the backyard and
this tree is like hey, hey, comehere.
(33:39):
And I'm like what's's going on?
And basically telling on hisowners like do you know what
he's doing over here?
And I'm like, yeah, I'm sorry,I'm not here for this house.
I'm like please keep whateverhe's doing to yourself.
I'm like I'm here on this sideof the fence, I'm like I'm here
for them.
And uh, he's like, oh, I couldtell you all about them.
(34:02):
Spilled the beans, talked aboutan energy that was walking back
and forth on the top floor,just consistently Talked about
the people that lived therebefore.
I mean, they just know the tea.
Frank (34:23):
Neighborhood watch?
Yes, I mean if you're going tea.
Neighborhood watch yes, that'swild.
I mean if you're going to standaround all day long.
I'm sure you're just lookingaround waiting to be entertained
by whatever nonsense ishappening.
Lauren (34:31):
Do you know?
DeeDee (34:32):
what's going on here?
Yeah, pretty much, and I'm likeI'm not here for that house, I
don't want to know.
Oh, that's so crazy, my God.
Okay, okay.
Frank (34:48):
So is it like they are recognizing that you are
receptive to them?
DeeDee (34:54):
Yeah, um, when I go out to a property, specifically, I'm
usually the first one to be inthe backyard, like it usually is
calling to me.
Um, so I'll jump in thebackyard and check it out.
I'm touching everything.
Frank (35:07):
I have to touch everything I was gonna ask you
about that.
I you were talking about havingto touch stuff, and that's, it
seems like an important part ofyour practice yeah, I gotta
touch everything.
DeeDee (35:17):
So I gotta touch the trees, I gotta touch the earth,
I gotta touch, um, justeverything I can get my hands on
, and that's pretty much wherethey're like.
It's kind of like hearing likea familiar song.
When you touch them, theirenergy just passes to you and
you can hear it.
(35:38):
That's the best way I candescribe it.
Lauren (35:41):
That's so poetic, that's so cool.
DeeDee (35:44):
Yeah, it's very cool, yeah, it's very different, it's
very different.
But yeah, um, and in that, uh,seeing the elementals has been
definitely interesting.
Um, sarah laughs, because everytime I see elementals or if she
knows that something's going onin the backyard, she's like all
right, let me, let me let Didicheck it out.
(36:05):
She's like.
She's like I know you're goingto be over the moon and go in
the backyard.
Frank (36:09):
I'm like, yes, Like, what kind of a spirit is a tree Like
?
If you know we're alwaystalking on the show about, you
know how we as people are hereand like what we're playing at
and what we're all trying to do.
But, like you know, I'massuming trees are non-human
(36:30):
entities, right?
Or are the more gossipy ones?
Were they once?
Lauren (36:40):
Were they once human.
Frank (36:40):
Yeah.
DeeDee (36:43):
I would love to tell you that I know the answer to that
question, but I honestly don'tknow.
I've met other people that havebeen to Pioneer Farms who have
said to me at the base of thetree, like within the tree
itself, they're seeing NativeAmericans in each one of them.
(37:04):
That's what I heard when we wentto pioneer farms, um, and I
said, can you draw that?
And they're like, yeah, um, andthey drew it.
This is probably, I don't know,four or five years ago, but
they drew what they were seeingand it it looked like somebody
who was sitting crisscrossapplesauce, um, as like the base
(37:26):
of the tree, and then as itwent from being thicker on the
bottom to like the, to thetaller portion, that's where,
like, their upper body was um,and so, yeah, they kind of drew
it for me and I'm like that'ssomething I need to ponder that
is such a trip, yeah, especiallywith, like you know, native
American culture being so tiedto the spirit of the land and
(37:51):
how everything essentially has aspirit, like I wonder if
there's just a choice orsomething like after death, to
like just fuse with that and bea part of it, or something.
Lauren (38:02):
I mean.
Frank (38:03):
I don't know I'm the last person to be commenting on this
, but that's so interesting tome.
DeeDee (38:09):
Yeah, it's fascinating to me still.
I'm I'm still learning a lotall the time.
They're always teaching mesomething new.
Frank (38:16):
Yeah, all right, all right, real quick.
Circling back to the whole theelementals thing, like, how many
different types of elementalshave you encountered or are you
still like discovering new types?
DeeDee (38:28):
oh my goodness, there are always new types.
Um, I feel like depending uponwhere you go there, you're gonna
see different things.
Um, I haven't really counted.
How many have you encounteredlike fairies or gnomes?
Yeah, specifically, there's aproperty that we've gone out to
(38:49):
Gosh, I want to say south ofAustin, where they have both
fairies and gnomes.
They're more.
We've been on there at thisparticular location on two
different occasions One whenthere was water running in the
creek bed, and again when therewasn't any water running in the
(39:09):
creek bed.
When there was water running,they were everywhere, really
congested in this wooded area,and you could actually, if you
were, if you wanted to, youcould basically call them to you
to like light up, um, becausethey were filled with light and
uh.
So at some point we wepurposely made a point to break
(39:33):
away from the rest of theirgroup to see if we could get
them to light up for us and giveus a light show.
Um, when the water was there,totally no problem.
But when the water was gone,that totally no problem.
But when the water was gone,that was their source of energy.
So they would try to come, buttheir light was very dim and
very, very bland, but they wouldtry to light up, but they just
(39:56):
didn't have a way to pull thatenergy, so they couldn't really
do a light show for us like theycould when the water was there.
So, like running.
Frank (40:03):
I've heard before like running water is like is like a
big you know, everything needssome kind of power source.
Yeah, and I've heard runningwater before.
DeeDee (40:11):
Any idea why I think it's just where they pull their
energy from yeah, what is thelight show.
Frank (40:19):
Yeah, was that light show like in the physical or in like
the like, uh like psychic sense.
DeeDee (40:25):
And the physical.
They would basically, um, comefrom out of the woods and then,
uh, we'd ask them, we wouldstart talking to them and be
like hey, you know, if youwouldn't mind, you know we're
here and we would introduceourselves.
Um, we would be, we would loveto see, you know, a light show,
can you?
Can you, you know, throw somelights on and let us see what
(40:47):
you look like?
And, um, they would eithercomply or be like eh, I don't
have it, I don't have any energyto do that.
So, uh, they would justbasically show like, show up
like balls of light Um, is thebest way I can put it.
Yeah, like balls of light isthe best way I can put it.
Yeah.
Frank (41:06):
What Is this?
Lauren (41:09):
What Is this more?
I want to come, I want to seethat.
DeeDee (41:15):
That's so cool.
Believe me, tell Sarah and shewill bring you.
Lauren (41:18):
Okay, well, we're coming out there.
Yeah, when do you guys get out?
Frank (41:24):
I think sometime in fall, yeah, so I don't know, is this
at any of these?
Okay?
First of all, are theselocations like very?
Do you find more elementals invery desolate environments, or
not desolate necessarily, butlike more um rural?
I said it right you did.
Lauren (41:41):
I have a really hard time with the word rural.
DeeDee (41:44):
It's hard to say I say rural, I try not to have a twang
in my voice, but sometimes itsneaks out.
I would have to say if it'sland that hasn't been touched,
you can get a lot of goodelementals in that area.
If it's land that's been messedaround with, elementals in that
(42:06):
area, if it's land that's beenmessed around with, they might
relocate to a, to a less, to aspot that's not quite, as I
guess, as touched or invadedright the word they use is
invaded, so that's why I'mthinking invaded invaded wow
Frank (42:18):
oh they're not wrong yeah yeah, yeah, um, something I
always notice with your team isthat you guys always walk into
these spaces with like you comein confidently, but you also
come in very politely andrespectfully of the existing
anybody, any things that mightbe nearby or residing there.
(42:39):
Yeah, I always think that'slike just really cool.
Can you like speak towards thata little bit as to what your
practice is in that for anybodywho wants to go out and maybe
try and connect with theelementals of their land?
DeeDee (42:55):
Yeah, I would say just like you would to another person
you don't know be sure tointroduce yourself, ask
permission.
Permission is a strong way toget communication started and it
also lets them know that you'rethere not to hurt them, and I
(43:20):
usually will say something alongthe lines of like, I'm not here
to change anything, I'm justhere to ask questions.
If you're open to answeringthose questions, fantastic.
If you're not totallyunderstand, this is your area,
I'm the one who's coming intoyour space and I usually will
come with an offering.
So they know that I'm not hereto take anything away from you.
(43:44):
And it seems like with thathappening together, all those
things happening together, it'sa great way to then start
communication.
What kind of offering?
It depends, um.
(44:06):
It depends sometimes, um, thisis really weird, but, like
before we go on an investigation, usually the night before um,
someone or something will visitme and tell me what the offering
should be.
So in the past it's been umcoffee, specifically coffee
grounds, not coffee beans.
Lauren (44:18):
I don't know why yeah, like you, just like put them in
a cup or like throw on the floor.
DeeDee (44:26):
Well, I basically, when I get there, I listen to them
how they want it.
So sometimes, like for example,the great tree, she wanted
coffee grounds, but she wantedthem.
She wanted them spread aroundher roots, so I spread them
around the base of a tree roots,so I spread them around the
(44:49):
base of a tree.
Um, I've gotten questions for arequest, for we see tobacco
singing songs, um, dude, hold on.
Frank (44:54):
I just gotta point out real quick even when, even when
you're in spirit form, you needto wake up, you need a cup of
coffee and a cigarette.
It's just the way it is.
It's it's not limited to a losangeles starbucks.
That's so, that's so.
I'm like, yeah, of course,that's the thing that gets me up
(45:15):
in the morning yeah, why not?
Lauren (45:17):
why not?
Or a song?
Frank (45:20):
yeah, or pop on your favorite song.
DeeDee (45:21):
You have time to wake up but on your favorite jams, yeah
, man sorry, what else?
What else um flowers orsomething else.
It was like in pill form, but Iended up taking like a little.
It was like a gel capsule and Iended up taking like a little
(45:42):
um puncturing the capsule andthen using whatever it was in
there.
I think it was like vitamin Eor something specific that they
wanted, that's so specific.
Yeah it was.
It was very specific and I waslike, well, I'm not going to
carry that whole bottle, becausewhat if it gets loose in my bag
?
I'm like that's going to be amess.
Yeah, let me go get capsules.
I think it was vitamin e orsomething like that.
(46:03):
It was something somethingoddly strange that I've never
been asked for before, but I didit and they were.
Frank (46:08):
so you have you have a rep.
Come to you, a messenger.
Come to you the night beforeand say you know, you know, what
we'd really like is that isthat, is that messenger person
like a, also an elemental or inthe form of something else?
DeeDee (46:23):
um, usually when they come to me, it's in my dream, so
sometimes they don't look likeanything and sometimes it's just
a voice.
Lauren (46:30):
Wow, it's like a backstage writer list.
They're like bring M&M's.
Only green M&M's yeah exactlyPink Starburst A bottle of
whiskey, three bottles of redwine, some Fritos.
Frank (46:50):
That is so funny.
DeeDee (46:51):
So, Frank, let me ask you what would be your list,
what would be your offeringrequest?
Frank (46:57):
Oh, if I were to make a request, let me think here Just
get like tacos.
It's Just get like tacos, it'sgoing to be tacos, I don't care
what kind.
That's the most unhingedrequest you can make.
Lauren (47:17):
What about you, Lauren?
What would yours be?
I feel like my first thoughtwas like it's just like sprinkle
some like marshmallows.
Frank (47:23):
Oh, my God, lauren's would be marshmallows, just like
basically unadulterated sugar,that's it.
Lauren (47:31):
Yeah, just get it straight in there.
Yeah, maybe roast one if you're, if you're really feeling up
for the task.
What about you, deedee Um?
DeeDee (47:44):
I would say my offering would probably be gin gins,
because I'm so in love withthose right now, I don't know
why.
Lauren (47:52):
Wait what.
DeeDee (47:53):
Gin gins.
They're ginger candies.
Frank (47:55):
Oh, the little ginger candy with a little ginger candy
on them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lauren (48:00):
Oh my God.
DeeDee (48:01):
I love it.
I would say gin, gins, mushroomcoffee and some brisket.
Lauren (48:09):
Oh, yeah, oh, the Texas brisket.
Yeah, now, you're really, nowyou're doing it, yeah, you're
doing it right.
DeeDee (48:17):
I know I love brisket.
It's my kryptonite.
Lauren (48:23):
We enjoy a good brisket over here.
Frank (48:25):
But also all that is to say that I was just trying to
not say coffee, because, yeah,coffee, I do that.
I have some of those.
What do you call it?
It's like a mushroom coffee.
It's similar, but I put it inmy regular coffee.
Lauren (48:39):
Yeah.
Frank (48:40):
And boy, that's how I start my days.
Yeah, and I like it a lot Withyour.
And boy do I?
That's how I start my days.
Yeah, and I like it a lot withyour mud.
Yeah, I call it.
I call it my morning mud.
Lauren's like that's not coffee, I'm like it's my morning mud.
Let me have it literally matcha,and coffee yeah, I'll throw a
scoop of matcha in there too,it's not good.
I have not done that yet, butI'm gonna it's not great, but I
like it, but also yeah it's aweird combo it's earthy it's not
(49:03):
bad.
Lauren (49:04):
It's just like what is going on in that cup listen he
doesn't sweeten it at all.
I wouldn't expect themarshmallow.
Frank (49:12):
Yeah, I wouldn't expect the marshmallow queen to like my
mud, my mud, joe well, I can, Ican, I can see where frank's
coming from.
DeeDee (49:19):
I don't sweeten mine either, and and it drives my
husband crazy, oh my.
Lauren (49:23):
God.
Frank (49:26):
Sometimes, if I'm feeling fancy, I'll throw in a scoop of
like one scoop of coconut sugar, which is like the least sugary
thing you can do Get wild.
Yeah, that's wild for me.
Lauren (49:35):
Yeah.
Frank (49:36):
That's so funny.
Lauren (49:37):
Oh man, I'm like I.
We have to.
We have to go talk, we have tosee a light show in Austin.
DeeDee (49:45):
I know I have so many more questions, but I think
we'll just do it in person yeah,we can have a round table with
you guys there with us and youcan ask all the questions you
want that would be fun.
Frank (50:02):
let me ask you one more question then we'll wrap it up.
Yeah, but like, if anybodyencounters an elemental or any
kind of like nature-based spirit, that and they say that they
feel like their space has beeninvaded, what can we do to, kind
of like, rectify that?
DeeDee (50:24):
What I'm finding out is that elementals really enjoy
shiny objects.
Frank (50:33):
Like leprechauns or raccoons.
DeeDee (50:35):
Yeah, like they really love shiny glittery things.
So if you want to be like, hey,you know, I know I pulled up
that shrub, you know, in theleft corner of the yard, you
know, and I know I disruptedlike your whole vibe back here,
so I'm going to put down like alittle gnome home and a little,
(50:56):
you know, disco ball planterthing and just kind of show you
some love.
That is helpful because theylove shiny glittery things, they
love little houses, they love.
Oh, they love.
Lauren (51:09):
Um, the shinier the better oh, just wait till we
tell our daughter about this oh,that's right up.
Frank (51:17):
Yeah, making like a gnome discotheque is going to be
perfect, that's my weekendactivity now yeah, like, and
she's going to be like.
Lauren (51:26):
yeah, I mean, she created a fairy house over the
summer.
She's like I don't think we hadshiny things in there.
Maybe we can actually get someactivity.
We need water.
We need a water source.
Frank (51:41):
I should ask one more question before we go, related
to what we're saying right now.
There's so much lore aboutfairies in particular and like
how I know, like the, what is itlike?
The, the irish or the scottishfae are such a thing that are
like respected but also feared,in a way like have you
experienced anything like that?
DeeDee (52:00):
that would be indicative that they are like something to
be afraid of um, I've only metone character that I that I
thought was pretty, uh,intimidating.
Um, it was also a characterthat sarah saw as well, and she
actually drew him.
He kind of looked like he had,he had legs, he, so he looked
(52:23):
like a human and he was verymuscular, he had horns and he
had like a, a very decorativebreastplate, and it was
basically.
He was basically on theoutskirts of a house that we
were looking at and we had askedcan we go beyond these gates?
(52:44):
And she's like, sure, go for it.
And we had gone beyond the gatesand I had sensed him
immediately.
But Sarah saw him and I waslike I don't, I'm not a fan of
his energy, woo, he's a lot.
And so she took some time, setsome time aside and she actually
drew him and, uh, I would haveto say he's probably the only
(53:06):
intimidating one that I've comeacross.
But also, too, I felt like inthat area again, this land
hadn't been touched in a longtime.
It's pretty, um, pretty much,um, I think it's several acres
that hadn't been touched there'strails back there there to walk
, but as far as that nothing'sreally been done.
I feel like he is the headhoncho there.
(53:28):
He is the main guy.
Like whatever happens he he hasit has to be run past him
before anything can happen.
Frank (53:40):
And did you sense that that was actually like an
elemental spirit or that it wasmaybe something else?
Cause I've heard a lot aboutNative American.
I don't know what to call themexactly.
I think they've been calledlike egregores or something.
But is that the right word?
Or it's like a thoughtmanifestation, like a thought
spirit, like something youmanifest in your belief in it?
DeeDee (53:57):
I feel like he was more elemental than anything, wow.
Lauren (54:03):
Wow, I wonder, does Sarah still have that photo or
that drawing?
Because I want to write to herand see if she could send me a
picture.
I'm sure she does.
DeeDee (54:12):
But this woman has tons of notebooks of drawings.
I don't know if she's able tofind it.
She has lots of notebooks ofdrawings that she's done.
So that would be the hard part.
It's for the notebook it's inbecause she has a lot.
Frank (54:28):
Okay, notebook gets in because she has a lot Okay.
So it sounds like the basicprotocol when you step into some
natural space is to show upwith respect.
Don't act a fool.
Lauren (54:43):
Introduce yourself.
Introduce yourself.
Frank (54:46):
And you know what?
Leave it better than you foundit, even if better than you
found it involves a disco ballgotta show the love, love that
that's so funny oh my goshthat's awesome.
Okay, alright yeah, dee, dee isamazing this is so cool, dee,
(55:08):
you're really cool.
Lauren (55:09):
Is there anything.
Frank (55:10):
I never asked anybody this, but is there anything that
you wish we would have askedyou in the interview?
DeeDee (55:16):
There is one thing I wanted to talk to you guys about
.
So there, well, there's acouple of things.
Healings is something that I doand I noticed on your
questionnaire is is, uh, youasked, do you work with children
?
Um, and, with my healing work,I do actually work with children
, Um.
As far as healings, um, yeah, I, I work on kids.
(55:39):
I have, uh, two or threeclients right now, um, that are
processing some trauma right nowas we speak and they, you know,
basically come with theirparents and we kind of do like a
gut check and haveconversations and then start
doing the energy work and theysleep a little bit better that
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night and then we just meet upon a consistent basis and touch
base and if they've had a reallyrough week, say lots of tests
and things of that nature,they'll be like, hey, can we
squeeze in an energy healing?
I feel like my levels are at a10 and I need to be at a five.
Can we get together?
And like yeah, so I have amobile healing service that I go
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out to their house so that whenI leave, they get to stay home
service that I go out to theirhouse so that when I leave, they
get to stay home, chill out,decompress and I cruise on home,
but they're in a space thatthey're safe in, that they know
they're fine in, and I lovebeing able to do the service at
their house and then bounce andthat way they can just chill out
in their house, not have toworry about driving or going to
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Smarty.
Frank (56:46):
That's so great.
It's probably so much easier tolike integrate, reintegrate
what they've learned or thehealing if they're already in
their space.
It's not like out of theirenvironment, where they're just
in the healing mindset, whenthey're just, like you know,
with you in, like an office orsomething.
DeeDee (57:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah that is really smart.
I have a kiddo that shepurposely like will eat her
dinner, go take her bath andeverything like that.
So when I show up she's in herpajamas.
Frank (57:13):
And so.
DeeDee (57:13):
I do the work while she's in her pajamas, and then
she goes straight to bed.
Lauren (57:18):
Like she she doesn't do anything.
DeeDee (57:19):
So she like makes sure she's ready to go.
So like, yeah, when I work onher, she's on her pajamas and we
crack up, and she's like herpajamas and we crack up and
she's like next time can youcome in your pajamas?
Lauren (57:31):
I'm like, I absolutely can and I will.
Oh my god that's so cute.
Oh, that's awesome I love thatthat's so cool is your healing,
um?
Is it?
Is it reiki?
Is it?
Does it have its own?
Have you created your own likemodality, have you incorporated
multiple different, like energyhealings or like what is your
style?
DeeDee (57:52):
um, I get it.
I hear a lot that it's comparedto reiki.
Um, I haven't personally satdown with somebody who does
reiki to know that if it's thesame thing, um, I just know that
, basically, when I do myhealings, the healing comes from
source and it just filters downthrough my head and it comes
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out through my arms and then outof my hands, and that's
something that, like I saidbefore, is one of those things I
struggled with in the verybeginning that I could do that,
but it seems to be somethingthat just speaks to my spirit.
So, um, I I really don't enjoydoing it for other people, um,
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and and being there to help themon their journey, because a lot
of people are like well, I'mcurious, so I'm just going to
dip my toe in.
So, you know, I'll schedule asession with you and then later
on they're like well, I'm stilla little curious, so I'll
schedule another session.
Frank (58:53):
That's so cool that you like, developed your own, like
it's just an intuitive, likehealing that you're, you've,
you've created, like you justknow how to do it.
DeeDee (59:02):
Yeah, it's basically when I do it.
Um, sarah said that when she'swhen she sees me do it, she says
there's a whole different teamof divines that come up behind
me and they're there and presentwhile I'm doing it.
I haven't seen them because I'mfocused on what I'm doing.
But she says she's seen themand I'm like, wow, that's
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fantastic that a whole differentgroup of divines come up behind
me to watch me do exactly whatI'm doing.
And so I'm like, okay, verycool, very cool that's awesome,
yeah amazing, y'all are so coolover there.
Frank (59:36):
Yeah, in Texas, well good did you have anything else that
you wanted to throw out ormention, or?
DeeDee (59:42):
I totally thought of you guys and I had to.
I wanted to share the storywith you, with both of you.
Um, so my friends and I went toa restaurant and we're having,
you know, a lovely, a lovelylunch, and, um, behind me I
can't see cause they're directlybehind me there's a couple,
it's a guy and a man, a guy anda girl and, um, they're
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whispering to each other, blah,blah, and they're whispering to
each other, blah, blah.
The next thing I hear is I hearas if someone took their hand
and slammed it down on the tablethat they were at, and I was
like, well, and I'm the only onewho jumped.
So I'm like, oh no, so I juststayed.
I stayed facing my party.
(01:00:26):
I didn't look around, but Icould hear what was going on.
And there was a lady yelling atthe couple and I was like, okay
, if I turn around, she knowsI'm going to be able to hear her
.
So I'm like, let me just stay,not just stay at the direction I
am.
And my friend goes are you okay?
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah,give me just a minute the
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direction I am.
And my friend goes are you okay?
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah,give me just a minute.
And listening to this lady, itturns out she was the wife of
the guy that was there with herbest friend and they just left
the wife's funeral.
Frank (01:01:01):
Oh my God, they'd been seeing each other.
DeeDee (01:01:04):
They'd been seeing each other for months and she didn't
know until she passed no, so shewas letting them have it.
Um, but I'm the only one whoheard the bang on the table with
her, like her hand, because shewas like what?
Oh my god and she was so mad,so I got up and I excused myself
(01:01:27):
and I went to the ladies roomand I came back because I I knew
I couldn't turn around and lookat her because then she'd want
me to like relay everything andI was like yeah, no thanks.
So I left, went to the ladiesroom and came back and when I
did, she had, you know,quietened down quite a bit, but
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at least I could see her.
And she had, you know,quietened down quite a bit but
at least I could see her.
And I went, I sat back at thetable and my friend goes, are
you okay?
Like do we need to leave?
And I'm like no, no, no, no,we're good, we're good.
And she's like you sure, likeyeah, I'm sure.
And so this lady is behind me,is going how long has this been
going on?
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Was this happening when I wasalive?
You two are awful.
And then she just lit into them, but they can't hear her.
So it just looks very likecasual no one's like Ooh, that's
insane, holy cow.
Frank (01:02:23):
How often does that happen to you, where you're like
you're just seeing that kind ofthing and no one else can can
pick it up?
DeeDee (01:02:31):
I'm sure it happens all the time, yeah well, I I make an
effort to not go into a lot ofcrowded places unless I have to,
yeah, so it doesn't happen thatoften.
Um, but yeah, that wassurprising.
I wasn't expecting that at all,I mean that's some juicy that
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is wild, that is some treeworthy gossip, holy cow.
Lauren (01:03:00):
Okay, that makes me wonder, though, like, like is
the?
I know, I'm just grunting wehave, we have, like some people
say like, oh, like once you,once you cross over, like it's
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all good, like you're just fullof love.
Was there an imprint orsomething that was like left
with the husband?
Frank (01:03:30):
this sounds pretty active .
Lauren (01:03:32):
This is a good question, though how does that work,
where, like because there's sucha difference between like now
I'm just one with everybody, butor are you still like pissed?
Yeah, that was a lot ofquestions, yeah, one, but um, I
just get like, how does thatwork?
DeeDee (01:03:52):
what it sounded like to me is that she didn't know any
of this until she died, rightbecause they'd hidden it so well
.
So to me it just sounded soundslike once she crossed over, she
got the real dish on what washappening yeah and then came
back to like lay into them so toto to like double down on your
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question.
Frank (01:04:19):
Yeah, in a way.
Then, to be more specific, Ihave noticed that people that
come from the uh, thespiritualist tradition, they
often, uh, we'll say that, likeonce you pass, like there's
nothing but love and light, andlike, but then I'm like, well,
I've seen Sarah and DD and thewhole MPU team go out there and
have to deal with some like notso healed people in spirit form.
Lauren (01:04:43):
Yeah, I'm trying to understand where you evolve as a
spirit, where you just becomelike back in the collective and
you could be anywhere all thetime, or where you're just like
wait.
But first I have to processthis very earthly thing where
I'm pissed off because I justlearned something about my
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stupid husband.
Yeah, best friend, yeah, Ifriend, yeah.
Frank (01:05:10):
I guess.
I guess we're just pointing outthe the division between these
two different like schools ofthought, I suppose.
Yeah.
DeeDee (01:05:15):
Yeah, I think she had to handle business first before
she ventured off to do otherthings.
I think, that was her, her goal.
Lauren (01:05:24):
That makes sense.
Frank (01:05:25):
I mean yeah, yeah.
Lauren (01:05:28):
Just like have to like.
You know, I think also, part ofit is like for our, for our
earthbound brains, where time isa thing I'm like well, she had
to like this is a thing thatneeds to be addressed right now.
Yeah, that's so, it's so.
That's so fascinating to me itis it is.
DeeDee (01:05:52):
And then I was like this you know what this is worthy to
share with frank and lauren?
Frank (01:05:56):
I need to tell you oh what a crazy story incredible I
love those two are just carryingon.
Lauren (01:06:03):
Yeah, the funeral, or like the day of the funeral, or
after.
DeeDee (01:06:07):
Oh my god yeah, after their funeral, because basically
she said they had enoughdecency to go home and change
their clothes and then they wentout to eat together yuck yeah,
that's so crazy it was a reallybizarre situation
Frank (01:06:25):
name names.
Let's call them out right.
Let's stick our viewership onthis.
Oh my God, that's so funny.
DeeDee (01:06:33):
You're in the Austin area, have you seen this couple
eat together?
Lauren (01:06:37):
Yeah, you like cracked a case.
Frank (01:06:40):
Yeah.
Lauren (01:06:41):
Didi, where can everyone find you if they want your
services or just learn moreabout you?
Give us all your plugs.
DeeDee (01:06:49):
Yeah, so if people are interested in personal intuitive
readings or animalcommunications or healing hand
sessions, definitely feel freeto reach out.
I'm going to be available athawkhealinghandscom.
You can also find me onInstagram and Facebook under DD
Hawk.
That's D E E, d, d E H A W K.
(01:07:13):
And yeah, feel free to reachout to me and we'll start the
journey together.
Lauren (01:07:20):
Love it.
Frank (01:07:21):
Is is.
Is that a chosen name or isthat your actual name, cause
it's like the coolest.
Lauren (01:07:26):
I was going to say how cool your name is.
DeeDee (01:07:39):
It's actually given to me by by sarah.
That's oh only cooler.
I love that dd hawk by sarahthat's amazing, that's awesome
all right yeah, perfect.
Frank (01:07:48):
Beautiful.
Thank you so much for talkingwith us today and taking your
time with us Like we askedridiculous questions and thank
you.
DeeDee (01:07:56):
I'm so glad you guys asked me.
I'm so honored to be on your,to be on your podcast and, yeah,
I can't wait to for you guys toget here to Texas so we can
meet in person.
Lauren (01:08:05):
Yes, us too, thank you.
DeeDee (01:08:08):
Vicky.
Lauren (01:08:08):
Yeah, have a good one.
Frank (01:08:12):
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Welcome, friends.
In this episode, Frank and Italked to Dee Dee Hawk, a healer
, animal communicator andpsychic medium who works with
elementals.
Frank (00:10):
I'm Lauren Leon and I'm inviting a gnome out for a
coffee.
Lauren (00:14):
We are a married couple learning how to develop our own
intuition, and this is episode67 of Claire Voyaging.
67 of Claire Voyaging.
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Frank (00:51):
What's going on?
Frank was rapping again.
I always do, I know.
Why don't you give us a little?
No, it wasn't good, it'lldamage my reputation it was
something about coffee andlattes don't worry about it
behind the scenes it'll makemore sense later voyaging.
Hello everyone how's it going?
I hope this day finds you well,really, really having good
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energy out there let's get to itkeep it up yeah, well, I hope
everyone is doing great, becausethere are a lot of astrological
things going on.
This is not exactly an episodeabout that, but I'm just saying
my tiktok's going off about theastrology stuff.
Yeah, everyone's like do youfeel?
Lauren (01:30):
what I'm feeling and the kind of the general sense is
like everything feels hard andit's not just because of
circumstances, it's also theenergy out there, the planets,
the moon, eclipse season, whatthe actual F?
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Hey y'all, we got some newdonations for our documentary.
That's right, yes, so here's alittle shout out.
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Here we go, thank you, tiffany.
Tiffany, carol, carol and Lori.
Frank (02:05):
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you tiffany, tiffany, carol,carol and laurie, laurie, my
laurie, a round of my laurieshe's ours, she's our laurie
thank you guys claim her.
Thanks everybody you guys.
Lauren (02:19):
We only have 82 days left of this as of today oh
we're recording this on mondaylauren likes countdowns.
Frank (02:28):
Drives me crazy when we're on a road trip.
Lauren (02:29):
She's like you hate that .
Frank (02:30):
She's like oh, it's only 150 more miles left.
I'm like, do not say that againif we're on a long road trip.
Lauren (02:37):
He just thinks that's a nightmare.
Frank (02:39):
I'm like no, no, 42 more miles no, let me, let me zone
out and get there before I knowit.
Don't count it down the wholeway.
Lauren (02:46):
Why did you have to bring it to my attention?
We only have 82 days left ofthis fundraising campaign for
our documentary and there aresome great perks to donating,
most importantly, helping us toget the thing actually made,
that's a big part.
But beyond that, some funbehind the scenes stuff shout
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outs, like you just heard.
Go check it out and we can't doit without your support, so
thank you thank you thank youfor being the wind beneath our
wings wow you know somethingabout that song sounds um, it
sounds a little belittling orsomething.
I've always loved that song, butit's like you are the wind.
(03:30):
You let me soar.
You are the wind beneath mywings.
Frank (03:35):
Yeah.
Lauren (03:36):
I don't know.
Frank (03:38):
I mean, I think that was a phrase before.
It was a song, was it?
Yeah, it's like you know, it'sa wind, wind in my sails, kind
of thing I don't know.
Lauren (03:47):
I'm gonna have to, I'm gonna have to consult google or
chat gpt on this one.
I don't like it uh I know youare I know it from I know it,
you're more than that may we bethe wind beneath your wings.
Frank (04:01):
We are.
Lauren (04:02):
We are just here to serve we want to help you soar
like an eagle yeah okay, thedocument talking about the
documentary brings me to today'sguest, which is didi hawk.
uh, she is part of the team atmetaphysical you, which was
started by sarah reeves, andwe've had sarah reeves as a
guest before episode 12.
She's amazing.
The team at metaphysical youhas their own podcast called MP
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unleashed, and they doinvestigations in Austin, texas,
and they come from a place ofknowing that spirits exist
instead of trying to prove thatthey do.
So I'm just saying that becauseif you hear us mentioned Sarah
while we're talking to DD,that's who we're talking about
Sarah Reeves.
Uh, they work together and whenfrank and I go to austin to
film our documentary, we willget to see firsthand how they
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all work how it works yeah, howthe sausage gets made.
I hate that okay, so I'm notlet's cut that part out.
Frank (05:02):
No.
Lauren (05:05):
Okay, so, frank, let's get.
Let's just get to Didi.
Frank (05:09):
Let's get to Didi this was a great conversation.
Lauren (05:12):
She's just got like really calming, sweet,
lighthearted energy and I justreally enjoyed talking to her
and talking about elementalswhich we've never talked about
on the show, Really.
Frank (05:24):
Listen, there's this.
I was just talking to Laurenabout this.
There's this.
There's something going on withthe Metaphysical you team.
They know more than they'reletting on, I'm pretty sure, and
they're very calm about it.
I haven't figured out what thesecret is.
There's a secret here.
I will get to the bottom of it.
Lauren (05:43):
I promise all y'all, but you're all too too intuitive
they're too chill, psychic andlike just really awesome so I've
got my eye on you I don't knowwhat you're you're trying to
uncover I have no real threatsto offer not at all I'm gonna
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ask a question I'm gonna ask youso many things, um, but yeah, I
mean, dd was an absolute joy totalk to, yes, so let's just,
let's just press play well,let's just circle the wagons
circle the wagons, circle thewagons.
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Roll the tape.
Dee Dee Hawk, thank you so muchfor joining us today.
On Claire Voyaging, we are justtickled that you are with us.
We love to hear people'sbackstories, and I know you've
got a good one, so can you tellus a bit about yourself, how you
got into doing the work thatyou're doing now?
DeeDee (06:48):
Yeah, I'd be happy to.
First of all, thank you bothfor having me on your podcast.
I really appreciate the ask.
I was really blown away.
So thank you so much for havingme.
As far as, like I would say, myjourney, it really started with
a deep connection that I havewith nature and animals and that
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later blew up intounderstanding energy and spirit
communication.
I don't know if it's because Iwas born on a reservation, being
part of the Navajo Nation, Iwas surrounded by a lot of
nature and animals all the time.
Eventually, what I ended updoing is I ended up moving to
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Austin back at the end of 99.
And over the years I've justimmersed myself in metaphysical
studies.
Thankfully, I've been able togo on a lot of like a better
term ghost investigations.
I've been on one with the 9-0podcast, I've been on a couple
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with the Real Ghosts Of and thenour own MP1 Leashed.
So that has really helped myintuitive work really kick into
high gear and use all my senses.
So, yeah, mainly my work is allabout healing, whether it's for
animals, people or unseenenergies in the space.
Lauren (08:19):
So were you like was this like a thing when you were
a kid?
Like, was this like a thingwhen you were a kid, like, oh,
dd has a sensitivity, or is itjust kind of um in your family
like everybody?
Or, you know, like a lot ofpeople have it?
DeeDee (08:34):
yeah, it's, it's.
It's something I've already hadalways had in my life, but I
didn't really start to exploreit until I was much older.
Um, there'd be little thingshere and there.
For example, we went to myfamily and I went to go look at
a house to rent and I rememberwalking up to the house and
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everybody went inside, greetedwith the real estate agent and
everything, and had a greatconversation and, of course, as
a kid, you're not going to standthere and listen to the real
estate agent, you're going torun around.
So that's exactly what I did.
I went to the kitchen, I wentto the living room, I raced to
the bedrooms and I was like okay, and then I realized through
the kitchen there is a basementand I started to take a couple
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steps down into the basement andI just I'm like okay, no
problem, and I backed out and Iwaited for my family in the car
because something in there justdid not set well with me wow
Frank (09:33):
oh, I assume you didn't end up with the house no,
thankfully my parents did notchoose that house.
Lauren (09:41):
Yeah, yeah it could have caused some unnecessary trauma.
I would imagine the fear ofthat basement.
Frank (09:50):
Wow so let me ask you, did you?
You said you were born on a, ona reservation, did you?
Were, you like, raised on thereservation too?
DeeDee (09:59):
no, I was not raised on the reservation.
I was adopted uh pretty young.
So um, I was adopted.
Both my parents are white.
Frank (10:08):
Okay, okay, do you, I mean?
So I've heard so much aboutpeople who have.
Recently we interviewed someone, Aaron Harris, who same thing,
actually, which is really funny,yeah founded that so much of
his psychic intuition was solinked to his heritage.
I guess my question to you islike, how much of that Navajo
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heritage do you kind of tap intowhen you're doing your thing?
DeeDee (10:37):
Well, I would say all of it, all the time.
Frank (10:41):
That's what Aaron said too, yeah.
DeeDee (10:44):
I don't really think I can say like a what piece or
portion of it is, because it'sso a part of who I am that I
just I don't know, it's just apart of who I am so.
But you know, I'm also goingthrough the journey of finding
out more details about myadoption and how all that worked
(11:06):
.
So as we speak right now, I'mfinding out more information and
finding out my bloodline.
So it should be pretty fun tofigure out all those details.
Frank (11:17):
Oh, wow, so this is ongoing.
DeeDee (11:20):
Yeah, it's ongoing.
I decided to jump into it andexplore it.
I didn't really have anyinterest for a long, long time
and then now it's a.
I'm like you know what?
I'm curious, you know.
Lauren (11:30):
I want to know what's in my background.
DeeDee (11:32):
I want to know, like you know, do I have?
Do I have healers in mybackground?
Do I have healers in my lineage?
Um, you know, do it?
Is there a medicine woman in my, in my bloodline?
There's lots of possibilities.
So I figured.
Frank (11:51):
I'd rather dig my heels in now and find out.
Yeah, yeah, that's really cool.
So let me ask you the, the like, energy and spirit, the way you
tap into stuff.
How does it present to you?
What is it?
Or, if you want to use typicalterms, what are you?
What are the Claire's that youtap into?
DeeDee (12:06):
Well, I'd have to say, for me, animal communication is
more telepathic.
It's about tuning into ananimal's energy.
They carry a lot of emotionsand they have so many thoughts.
I feel like sometimes, whenthey're speaking to me, they
speak to me in emotions.
They also give me images andsensations rather than words.
(12:32):
I would say this one's kind offunny, but one of the most
recent ones that I got was fromthe point of view of a very
small, small, petite dog, andwhat he was showing me is he was
showing me from his point ofview of a very small, small,
petite dog, and what he wasshowing me is he was showing me
from his point of view therefrigerator open, so basically
looking at like ankle high upinto refrigerator, and he's
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showing me the back of a bottleand it's specifically red on top
and white on bottom and I'mlike what are you showing me?
And he had a request for whatthat was and then I realized
it's ready.
Lauren (13:10):
Whip.
DeeDee (13:11):
I'm like.
So he's showing me from hispoint of view.
He hasn't been getting hisready whip and she goes.
I forgot that was in therefrigerator.
Lauren (13:27):
That is so funny, gosh, that is so amazing, oh no these
little dogs.
Frank (13:33):
Oh, finally someone, someone who's listening to me
and it's like can you get theready whip?
DeeDee (13:37):
already exactly, I just want a little whipped cream yeah
, and I'm like this is theweirdest image I've ever gotten
and I'm like, is that Ready Whip?
Lauren (13:48):
That's amazing oh my gosh, that's so cool.
Frank (13:53):
So that was just like imagery, that kind of popped in
your head.
Did you know this dog, or wasit just like a friend's dog or
something?
DeeDee (14:00):
This was for an animal communication reading.
Frank (14:03):
Got it.
DeeDee (14:05):
She just asked.
The owner was like well, youknow, I feel like I just kind of
want to do a gut check, see howthings are going and, you know,
make sure that we have a strongcommunication.
I'm like that's great.
I love that.
So let's dive in deeper intothat.
And at the very end I had askedthe dog I'm like well, was
there anything else that youwanted me to communicate to your
owner?
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And that's the final image.
Was the ready whip bottle?
I'm like okay.
Frank (14:30):
That's amazing.
DeeDee (14:30):
I will do that.
I will get that communicatedright away.
Frank (14:34):
So it was straight up.
A last but not least.
Lauren (14:37):
Yeah, I'd like to put in a formal request for my ready
whip.
DeeDee (14:41):
I am lacking ready whip in my life.
Can you please help me out?
Lauren (14:46):
That's so funny.
Oh my gosh, I love that so much.
They have so much to say andwe're just like.
They stare at us and we're likewhat?
I know?
Our dog has like a specifictime, two specific times of day,
that he comes and harassesfrank and like follows him to
(15:08):
the kitchen, like, punches himin the foot, like, and he's like
staring at him and frank's likewhat, and then he'll like bark
at him.
Frank (15:17):
It's like that's his treat time it's treat time and
it's so specific but I'm likelately, I'm like, dude, I
haven't gotten you out for walksenough.
I gotta, we gotta, lay off thetreats.
I'm sorry I don't, he does notlike it.
DeeDee (15:29):
We, we argue yeah, I, I can.
I can totally understand wherefrank's coming from as far as
like the animals, because thefirst thing in the morning we
have, uh, an old maine coon, hisname is tokyo, and he purposely
waits yeah, he purposely waitsuntil I get up and actually show
up in the kitchen and as soonas I do, he starts talking and I
(15:53):
know exactly what he wants.
He's like give me food, give mewater, give me food and water,
yeah, and I'm like, and I havewhat we call a toll.
I'm like the toll is a bodybump where he bumps his body
against my legs and then I dowhat he wants.
So, I'm like body bump.
Lauren (16:08):
He's like ugh, fine, oh my gosh.
We had a Maine Coon.
He was 17 when he passed and hewas a talker Like just he was
just, you know, big guy, Likelovable, but so quirky, like
just the weirdest cat in theworld.
Frank (16:30):
Oh man, that's so fun.
So.
So, what were the?
What were some of the thingsthat you did?
To like start developing your,your sensitivity to your, your,
your abilities your sensitivity,to your abilities.
DeeDee (16:51):
Well, we had a female cat show up on our porch and
just decided she was never goingto leave, didn't know her, and
when we would walk out of thehouse she would rub up on our
body and love on us.
And then, eventually, wecouldn't help it.
We started feeding her ofcourse yeah, yes, of course.
And then she eventually had alitter and of course we watched
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those babies.
And out of her litter, um,there was one particular cat by
the name of brando.
And brando made it very clearto us from the very beginning I
refuse to be an inside cat, soyou better let me out.
So we're like, all right, allright, we'll let you out.
So we had a routine of himgoing out, fighting whatever was
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in the neighborhood, comingback people torn, ripped, you
know, a chunk of fur gone, achunk of you know skin missing,
and he would come home and hewould sit there and be real
pitiful and this is kind of likesemi during the cooler months
here in Austin.
And so I would have a chair Iwas sitting in and I had a
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blanket in my lap and he'd waitfor me to get situated, he'd pop
into my lap and then just passout.
He'd wait for me to getsituated, he'd pop into my lap
and then just pass out.
Um, and then, when that wouldhappen, I'm mindlessly watching
television, but at the same timeI was putting my hands on him
and eventually this, we becamein tune with one another which
was not at all what I expected,um, but then I started realizing
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like I was helping him heal andhe would sleep in my, my lap,
um, until I started to move, soprobably like an hour or so, and
then I'd start to move and he'dhe'd be out, go back out, and
we'd have this cycle over andover and over, um, for the
longest time, where he wouldjust come in and be like fix me
(18:43):
heal me.
So he'd get my lap and we do thesame thing, and it just became
a routine for a long time.
And then I then once I startedgetting in tune with him and I
could start hearing him, and itjust was a slow progression.
Lauren (19:00):
Wow, Were you like what is happening with?
DeeDee (19:04):
my hands.
Lauren (19:05):
Did you like know, okay, I've got something.
Or did it take a little whileum?
DeeDee (19:14):
at first I think I I fought it because I didn't want
to have to really dive into it.
I didn't want to have to like,really be like, okay, is this
really happening?
And then there was a party thatwe had gone to, a mutual
friends party, and there was aguy there who kept saying you
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know, I I got to go see thesurgeon, I've got this hole in
my hand.
You know, I can't, I can't getit to heal.
And I was like, well, let metake a look at it.
And he was like OK, and in myhead I started Basically kind of
picturing like his skin movingtowards the center of his hand
and pulling it from every angleof the wound and just moving it
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towards the center.
And I just kept doing that andthat was my quote-unquote party
trick um and eventually uh, hesaid he didn't have to go
through surgery, anything likethat, and he didn't have to go
see anybody else, and I was justlike, okay, maybe this is a
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little bit more than what Ithink it is.
I'm like, yeah, well, you know.
So I think there's just beenlittle things here and there
that have kind of developed overtime and have been my sign.
But for a while there I didn'twant to read the signs, I didn't
want to read that I could dothis, it, it, it.
It really put me in a weirdspace and for acceptance.
(20:42):
But eventually I was like, okay, I can't say that I don't have
this any longer, like it's justgoing to be part of me now.
Lauren (20:51):
Yeah, what do you think that hesitation was?
DeeDee (20:55):
Oh man, there's so much I would say with my faith, I
think, with my faith was thebiggest one.
I think with my faith was thebiggest one, wow, because my, my
, my birth, my, my, my adoptedmom.
She knows I have gifts.
So like that's not any any kindof new thing to her, like she
knows but, my mother-in-law notat all Interested in hearing
(21:20):
anything about my gifts.
Whoa, yeah, totally, totallyjuxtaposition.
So that was really hard becauseit's like well then, who do you
tell, now that you haveadmitted to yourself that you
have these gifts, who do youtell, who do you share this with
?
And that became a verycumbersome, I guess, reveal.
(21:43):
Yeah, of course my husbandknows um and um, my immediate
family knows.
But sharing that, even with mymother-in-law, uh like say, for
example, there was a momentwhere she and I were just in the
kitchen together and we werejust hanging out and this is
early AM morning, nobody's up,it's just her and I, and we both
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have our cup of coffee.
And down the hall comes hermother, her mother-in-law, and
I'm like oh, and she comes inand she's standing behind my
mother-in-law in the kitchen andI'm just looking at her and I'm
like I don't know who this is.
Lauren (22:25):
Oh boy.
DeeDee (22:26):
And she said can you, can you, can you deliver a
message for me?
And I'm like yes, ma'am.
And she said can you tell?
Her that nobody takes as goodas care as my boy, of my boy, as
she does, and I was like yeah.
I'll tell her oh wow, and I Ididn't know it, but, um, my
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husband later told me that, um,when she was coming to the end
of her life, she actually stayedin one of the rooms downstairs,
in that hallway that she camefrom.
Wow, so she spent her last daysin that house, wow.
Yeah, how did she take?
Lauren (23:06):
that Like, did you blurt it out or were you like I gotta
tell you something, yeah.
DeeDee (23:11):
Cause that's the one thing about message messages you
have to deliver them.
So I was like, oh, this isgoing to be uncomfortable and
awkward, yeah, so I.
So I was like I took a sip ofcoffee and I said, um, that
morning good courage, right yeahand I'm like, can I share
something with you?
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and she's like, sure.
And I'm like, uh, I see thiswoman coming down the hallway,
so she's got a nightgown on andshe's got a, a robe and, um, she
wants me to tell you that noone takes care of her son as
well as you do.
And then it was just silence.
(23:53):
Oh my god, nothing was said.
You could just tell it was veryuncomfortable for her, yeah,
and then it got uncomfortablefor me and then, as if it wasn't
enough already yeah, yeah, andthen, um, it just felt awkward
so I didn't.
(24:14):
You know, I didn't pursue or askher any more follow-up
questions or anything like that,but that was that was.
That was it, and we haven'treally talked about it since wow
, so she never, she never reallycame around, huh.
Frank (24:24):
No, wow Does she have like her own, her own faith that
that conflicts with her.
DeeDee (24:32):
I, I do, I do believe it probably does conflict with her
faith.
Lauren (24:36):
Yeah.
DeeDee (24:38):
She's old school she's she's in her eighties, so I
don't know how much of that shewould be accepting of of um, but
yeah, it seems like there's avery defined line there.
That happened with that wasunspoken.
Frank (24:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and just out of curiosity, not that
it matters, but what faith isthat?
Because I've got a littlescoreboard going here.
DeeDee (25:04):
I don't necessarily know what that, what that is, I'll
have to.
I'll have to ask her.
Frank (25:09):
I don't really know let me know it's heavily weighted in
some directions you work withelementals, right, or do you?
Lauren (25:20):
okay?
Can you talk about that alittle bit?
We've never had someone on ourpodcast that works with or sees
or senses elementals I think weonly talked about it once, and I
think it was with alexis okay,yeah, we had alexis and eric and
eric on yeah uh, from somealchemist um they're so they're
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so cool, I love them.
Frank (25:45):
We didn't talk about it that much.
I love this line of questioningyes.
Lauren (25:52):
Can you tell us what that is?
What elementals are?
The first time I ever evenheard about it was Frank
listening to the night owlpodcast.
He started listening to itbefore I did and he's like, yeah
, did you know?
Supposedly fairies are real andalso tree spirits, yeah, more.
(26:15):
But I'd love to hear you talkabout it.
DeeDee (26:19):
Yeah, totally so for me.
Um, in pioneer farms there'sthis great tree, um, she's
massive and huge, um she, um.
Basically, we went to pioneerfarms gosh, I don't know, we've
(26:40):
been so many times um, but Iwent with a group of people.
That's a place in austin,yeah's a place here in Austin.
It's called Pioneer Farms.
It's one of where one of theepisodes on the NIDAL podcast
was uh made and they also had,like uh, repeat, uh tours of the
area on the NIDAL um.
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So I went and um I, there'sthis huge tree.
You, basically, when you comeinto her area, I knew that I had
to, like, introduce myselffirst before I could even get
close to her.
Um, it's just like this feelingof royalty, like you're in the
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presence of this elderlyknowledgeable, seen everything,
tree, and so before I even gotclose to her, I had to ask her
permission to walk into herspace and I waited and I waited
and I waited and eventually shegave me permission and I went up
(27:43):
to her and started talking toher.
Um, we eventually returned andI did the same thing.
Before I approached her, Iasked her permission and she let
me come close, and one of herrequests was um.
When I see you next time, canyou?
She's like it's been a verylong time, because Pioneer Farms
(28:06):
was actually Native Americanland.
And so she had said to me it'sbeen a long time since I've had
anybody sing to me.
That's Native.
She's like can you come backand can you sing to me?
And I'm like, yeah, not knowingwhat I was singing, but I did.
Yeah, not knowing what I wassaying, but I did um.
(28:30):
So that second time I came tosee her I had an offering for
her, um and um, as I had theoffering, I also sang to her as
well and um, standing close tothe tree was my uh friend jack's
wolf.
Uh, who was originally a partof mp1, leashed um, right, he
was.
Yeah, he was standing there, uh,listening to me and he's just
(28:52):
crying and I'm walking aroundthe base of the tree singing to
her and just pouring as muchlove into her as I could.
And it was after that, thatvisit, that I could start to see
things that were in the woods,things that were up in the trees
(29:13):
.
They first started off asshadows, and so I feel like in
my gut, like that gift came fromher.
I didn't have it before that oh, that is interesting oh my god
okay, okay.
Frank (29:31):
Well, I have a couple, a couple of questions real quick
about this.
Lauren (29:34):
Go for it also that made me feel emotional, like that's
so beautiful it was veryemotional.
DeeDee (29:41):
I I was trying not to, I I was crying, but I was singing
, but at the same time I waslike crying.
I was like because every time Ilooked at Jax I could not get
emotional.
Lauren (29:51):
Yeah, oh my gosh, what were you singing?
DeeDee (29:56):
I sing to her.
It's a.
I'm trying to think what songis it?
It's a I'm trying to think whatsong is it the Sweetest Gift by
Sade?
Lauren (30:12):
Great.
Frank (30:13):
I guess it's better than Highway to Hell, which is what I
like.
The tree's like get out of herethe tree says I made a poor
choice you don't have permissionanymore okay, let me ask this.
(30:40):
Okay, what was the sense yougot?
How did you know that this waslike, like you put it, royalty
of a tree?
DeeDee (30:48):
I could feel the boundary before I got.
I felt like the boundary of,like a threshold, basically
around her and I wanted, when Isensed that threshold, I wanted
to honor that before I went anyfurther.
Frank (31:02):
Okay.
DeeDee (31:03):
Wow yeah.
Frank (31:06):
So what are the other other trees?
Just a bunch of dorks hangingaround like saying I don't care.
DeeDee (31:11):
I, you know, I don't know exactly, but they, they are
, they all are connected.
So, but for her specifically,like she has seen everything.
She's the oldest tree there.
She is by far way completelyfull of a lot more knowledge
(31:32):
than any any any other tree thatI've interacted with, and she's
full.
She's full of so much love andshe, she loves the land that
she's on, she loves everythingthat happens there.
She just tries to, you know,know, reach as many people as
she can, um, so, yeah, I, I justreally love being around her.
Her energy is just amazingthat's really cool so this is
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why the giving tree?
Lauren (31:55):
like kind of pisses me off, because oh, the giving tree
like does that.
Does that bug you?
That story, like this tree isjust like oh sure, boy, I'll
give you everything you everwanted.
DeeDee (32:07):
But like I don't know, he's not honoring that tree at
all you know, I hadn't reallythought about it, but you're
right, he isn't no, he's notsinging songs to the tree we
stopped around here.
Frank (32:21):
It's like no, this book sucks yeah, our daughter got
real sad.
Lauren (32:24):
We read that to her like once and it's like no, this
book sucks.
Yeah, our daughter got real sad.
We read that to her like onceand she's like it's really sad.
We're like you know what it is.
It's messed up.
Frank (32:33):
I get the message, but still.
Lauren (32:34):
Okay.
Frank (32:35):
Sorry.
So what would have happened ifyou didn't ask for permission to
approach?
DeeDee (32:43):
I don't think I would have had the same interaction
with her.
Okay, I don't think that wouldhave been a possibility.
I feel like when you come to atree, you have to pay attention
to the cues that they're givingyou when you approach, because
not every tree is going to, youknow, ask you to ask permission.
(33:04):
Some are just like hey and theyand they just want to gossip.
A lot of trees gossip.
Lauren (33:11):
No, really.
Yes, oh, please, please saymore about that.
DeeDee (33:17):
Right.
So I we went to uh oneinvestigation and there is a
tree that overhangs basicallylike splits the fence between
one property and the next.
And so I'm walking around theperimeter of the backyard and
this tree is like hey, hey, comehere.
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And I'm like what's's going on?
And basically telling on hisowners like do you know what
he's doing over here?
And I'm like, yeah, I'm sorry,I'm not here for this house.
I'm like please keep whateverhe's doing to yourself.
I'm like I'm here on this sideof the fence, I'm like I'm here
for them.
And uh, he's like, oh, I couldtell you all about them.
(34:02):
Spilled the beans, talked aboutan energy that was walking back
and forth on the top floor,just consistently Talked about
the people that lived therebefore.
I mean, they just know the tea.
Frank (34:23):
Neighborhood watch?
Yes, I mean if you're going tea.
Neighborhood watch yes, that'swild.
I mean if you're going to standaround all day long.
I'm sure you're just lookingaround waiting to be entertained
by whatever nonsense ishappening.
Lauren (34:31):
Do you know?
DeeDee (34:32):
what's going on here?
Yeah, pretty much, and I'm likeI'm not here for that house, I
don't want to know.
Oh, that's so crazy, my God.
Okay, okay.
Frank (34:48):
So is it like they are recognizing that you are
receptive to them?
DeeDee (34:54):
Yeah, um, when I go out to a property, specifically, I'm
usually the first one to be inthe backyard, like it usually is
calling to me.
Um, so I'll jump in thebackyard and check it out.
I'm touching everything.
Frank (35:07):
I have to touch everything I was gonna ask you
about that.
I you were talking about havingto touch stuff, and that's, it
seems like an important part ofyour practice yeah, I gotta
touch everything.
DeeDee (35:17):
So I gotta touch the trees, I gotta touch the earth,
I gotta touch, um, justeverything I can get my hands on
, and that's pretty much wherethey're like.
It's kind of like hearing likea familiar song.
When you touch them, theirenergy just passes to you and
you can hear it.
(35:38):
That's the best way I candescribe it.
Lauren (35:41):
That's so poetic, that's so cool.
DeeDee (35:44):
Yeah, it's very cool, yeah, it's very different, it's
very different.
But yeah, um, and in that, uh,seeing the elementals has been
definitely interesting.
Um, sarah laughs, because everytime I see elementals or if she
knows that something's going onin the backyard, she's like all
right, let me, let me let Didicheck it out.
(36:05):
She's like.
She's like I know you're goingto be over the moon and go in
the backyard.
Frank (36:09):
I'm like, yes, Like, what kind of a spirit is a tree Like
?
If you know we're alwaystalking on the show about, you
know how we as people are hereand like what we're playing at
and what we're all trying to do.
But, like you know, I'massuming trees are non-human
(36:30):
entities, right?
Or are the more gossipy ones?
Were they once?
Lauren (36:40):
Were they once human.
Frank (36:40):
Yeah.
DeeDee (36:43):
I would love to tell you that I know the answer to that
question, but I honestly don'tknow.
I've met other people that havebeen to Pioneer Farms who have
said to me at the base of thetree, like within the tree
itself, they're seeing NativeAmericans in each one of them.
(37:04):
That's what I heard when we wentto pioneer farms, um, and I
said, can you draw that?
And they're like, yeah, um, andthey drew it.
This is probably, I don't know,four or five years ago, but
they drew what they were seeingand it it looked like somebody
who was sitting crisscrossapplesauce, um, as like the base
(37:26):
of the tree, and then as itwent from being thicker on the
bottom to like the, to thetaller portion, that's where,
like, their upper body was um,and so, yeah, they kind of drew
it for me and I'm like that'ssomething I need to ponder that
is such a trip, yeah, especiallywith, like you know, native
American culture being so tiedto the spirit of the land and
(37:51):
how everything essentially has aspirit, like I wonder if
there's just a choice orsomething like after death, to
like just fuse with that and bea part of it, or something.
Lauren (38:02):
I mean.
Frank (38:03):
I don't know I'm the last person to be commenting on this
, but that's so interesting tome.
DeeDee (38:09):
Yeah, it's fascinating to me still.
I'm I'm still learning a lotall the time.
They're always teaching mesomething new.
Frank (38:16):
Yeah, all right, all right, real quick.
Circling back to the whole theelementals thing, like, how many
different types of elementalshave you encountered or are you
still like discovering new types?
DeeDee (38:28):
oh my goodness, there are always new types.
Um, I feel like depending uponwhere you go there, you're gonna
see different things.
Um, I haven't really counted.
How many have you encounteredlike fairies or gnomes?
Yeah, specifically, there's aproperty that we've gone out to
(38:49):
Gosh, I want to say south ofAustin, where they have both
fairies and gnomes.
They're more.
We've been on there at thisparticular location on two
different occasions One whenthere was water running in the
creek bed, and again when therewasn't any water running in the
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creek bed.
When there was water running,they were everywhere, really
congested in this wooded area,and you could actually, if you
were, if you wanted to, youcould basically call them to you
to like light up, um, becausethey were filled with light and
uh.
So at some point we wepurposely made a point to break
(39:33):
away from the rest of theirgroup to see if we could get
them to light up for us and giveus a light show.
Um, when the water was there,totally no problem.
But when the water was gone,that totally no problem.
But when the water was gone,that was their source of energy.
So they would try to come, buttheir light was very dim and
very, very bland, but they wouldtry to light up, but they just
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didn't have a way to pull thatenergy, so they couldn't really
do a light show for us like theycould when the water was there.
So, like running.
Frank (40:03):
I've heard before like running water is like is like a
big you know, everything needssome kind of power source.
Yeah, and I've heard runningwater before.
DeeDee (40:11):
Any idea why I think it's just where they pull their
energy from yeah, what is thelight show.
Frank (40:19):
Yeah, was that light show like in the physical or in like
the like, uh like psychic sense.
DeeDee (40:25):
And the physical.
They would basically, um, comefrom out of the woods and then,
uh, we'd ask them, we wouldstart talking to them and be
like hey, you know, if youwouldn't mind, you know we're
here and we would introduceourselves.
Um, we would be, we would loveto see, you know, a light show,
can you?
Can you, you know, throw somelights on and let us see what
(40:47):
you look like?
And, um, they would eithercomply or be like eh, I don't
have it, I don't have any energyto do that.
So, uh, they would justbasically show like, show up
like balls of light Um, is thebest way I can put it.
Yeah, like balls of light isthe best way I can put it.
Yeah.
Frank (41:06):
What Is this?
Lauren (41:09):
What Is this more?
I want to come, I want to seethat.
DeeDee (41:15):
That's so cool.
Believe me, tell Sarah and shewill bring you.
Lauren (41:18):
Okay, well, we're coming out there.
Yeah, when do you guys get out?
Frank (41:24):
I think sometime in fall, yeah, so I don't know, is this
at any of these?
Okay?
First of all, are theselocations like very?
Do you find more elementals invery desolate environments, or
not desolate necessarily, butlike more um rural?
I said it right you did.
Lauren (41:41):
I have a really hard time with the word rural.
DeeDee (41:44):
It's hard to say I say rural, I try not to have a twang
in my voice, but sometimes itsneaks out.
I would have to say if it'sland that hasn't been touched,
you can get a lot of goodelementals in that area.
If it's land that's been messedaround with, elementals in that
(42:06):
area, if it's land that's beenmessed around with, they might
relocate to a, to a less, to aspot that's not quite, as I
guess, as touched or invadedright the word they use is
invaded, so that's why I'mthinking invaded invaded wow
Frank (42:18):
oh they're not wrong yeah yeah, yeah, um, something I
always notice with your team isthat you guys always walk into
these spaces with like you comein confidently, but you also
come in very politely andrespectfully of the existing
anybody, any things that mightbe nearby or residing there.
(42:39):
Yeah, I always think that'slike just really cool.
Can you like speak towards thata little bit as to what your
practice is in that for anybodywho wants to go out and maybe
try and connect with theelementals of their land?
DeeDee (42:55):
Yeah, I would say just like you would to another person
you don't know be sure tointroduce yourself, ask
permission.
Permission is a strong way toget communication started and it
also lets them know that you'rethere not to hurt them, and I
(43:20):
usually will say something alongthe lines of like, I'm not here
to change anything, I'm justhere to ask questions.
If you're open to answeringthose questions, fantastic.
If you're not totallyunderstand, this is your area,
I'm the one who's coming intoyour space and I usually will
come with an offering.
So they know that I'm not hereto take anything away from you.
(43:44):
And it seems like with thathappening together, all those
things happening together, it'sa great way to then start
communication.
What kind of offering?
It depends, um.
(44:06):
It depends sometimes, um, thisis really weird, but, like
before we go on an investigation, usually the night before um,
someone or something will visitme and tell me what the offering
should be.
So in the past it's been umcoffee, specifically coffee
grounds, not coffee beans.
Lauren (44:18):
I don't know why yeah, like you, just like put them in
a cup or like throw on the floor.
DeeDee (44:26):
Well, I basically, when I get there, I listen to them
how they want it.
So sometimes, like for example,the great tree, she wanted
coffee grounds, but she wantedthem.
She wanted them spread aroundher roots, so I spread them
around the base of a tree roots,so I spread them around the
(44:49):
base of a tree.
Um, I've gotten questions for arequest, for we see tobacco
singing songs, um, dude, hold on.
Frank (44:54):
I just gotta point out real quick even when, even when
you're in spirit form, you needto wake up, you need a cup of
coffee and a cigarette.
It's just the way it is.
It's it's not limited to a losangeles starbucks.
That's so, that's so.
I'm like, yeah, of course,that's the thing that gets me up
(45:15):
in the morning yeah, why not?
Lauren (45:17):
why not?
Or a song?
Frank (45:20):
yeah, or pop on your favorite song.
DeeDee (45:21):
You have time to wake up but on your favorite jams, yeah
, man sorry, what else?
What else um flowers orsomething else.
It was like in pill form, but Iended up taking like a little.
It was like a gel capsule and Iended up taking like a little
(45:42):
um puncturing the capsule andthen using whatever it was in
there.
I think it was like vitamin Eor something specific that they
wanted, that's so specific.
Yeah it was.
It was very specific and I waslike, well, I'm not going to
carry that whole bottle, becausewhat if it gets loose in my bag
?
I'm like that's going to be amess.
Yeah, let me go get capsules.
I think it was vitamin e orsomething like that.
(46:03):
It was something somethingoddly strange that I've never
been asked for before, but I didit and they were.
Frank (46:08):
so you have you have a rep.
Come to you, a messenger.
Come to you the night beforeand say you know, you know, what
we'd really like is that isthat, is that messenger person
like a, also an elemental or inthe form of something else?
DeeDee (46:23):
um, usually when they come to me, it's in my dream, so
sometimes they don't look likeanything and sometimes it's just
a voice.
Lauren (46:30):
Wow, it's like a backstage writer list.
They're like bring M&M's.
Only green M&M's yeah exactlyPink Starburst A bottle of
whiskey, three bottles of redwine, some Fritos.
Frank (46:50):
That is so funny.
DeeDee (46:51):
So, Frank, let me ask you what would be your list,
what would be your offeringrequest?
Frank (46:57):
Oh, if I were to make a request, let me think here Just
get like tacos.
It's Just get like tacos, it'sgoing to be tacos, I don't care
what kind.
That's the most unhingedrequest you can make.
Lauren (47:17):
What about you, Lauren?
What would yours be?
I feel like my first thoughtwas like it's just like sprinkle
some like marshmallows.
Frank (47:23):
Oh, my God, lauren's would be marshmallows, just like
basically unadulterated sugar,that's it.
Lauren (47:31):
Yeah, just get it straight in there.
Yeah, maybe roast one if you're, if you're really feeling up
for the task.
What about you, deedee Um?
DeeDee (47:44):
I would say my offering would probably be gin gins,
because I'm so in love withthose right now, I don't know
why.
Lauren (47:52):
Wait what.
DeeDee (47:53):
Gin gins.
They're ginger candies.
Frank (47:55):
Oh, the little ginger candy with a little ginger candy
on them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lauren (48:00):
Oh my God.
DeeDee (48:01):
I love it.
I would say gin, gins, mushroomcoffee and some brisket.
Lauren (48:09):
Oh, yeah, oh, the Texas brisket.
Yeah, now, you're really, nowyou're doing it, yeah, you're
doing it right.
DeeDee (48:17):
I know I love brisket.
It's my kryptonite.
Lauren (48:23):
We enjoy a good brisket over here.
Frank (48:25):
But also all that is to say that I was just trying to
not say coffee, because, yeah,coffee, I do that.
I have some of those.
What do you call it?
It's like a mushroom coffee.
It's similar, but I put it inmy regular coffee.
Lauren (48:39):
Yeah.
Frank (48:40):
And boy, that's how I start my days.
Yeah, and I like it a lot Withyour.
And boy do I?
That's how I start my days.
Yeah, and I like it a lot withyour mud.
Yeah, I call it.
I call it my morning mud.
Lauren's like that's not coffee, I'm like it's my morning mud.
Let me have it literally matcha,and coffee yeah, I'll throw a
scoop of matcha in there too,it's not good.
I have not done that yet, butI'm gonna it's not great, but I
like it, but also yeah it's aweird combo it's earthy it's not
(49:03):
bad.
Lauren (49:04):
It's just like what is going on in that cup listen he
doesn't sweeten it at all.
I wouldn't expect themarshmallow.
Frank (49:12):
Yeah, I wouldn't expect the marshmallow queen to like my
mud, my mud, joe well, I can, Ican, I can see where frank's
coming from.
DeeDee (49:19):
I don't sweeten mine either, and and it drives my
husband crazy, oh my.
Lauren (49:23):
God.
Frank (49:26):
Sometimes, if I'm feeling fancy, I'll throw in a scoop of
like one scoop of coconut sugar, which is like the least sugary
thing you can do Get wild.
Yeah, that's wild for me.
Lauren (49:35):
Yeah.
Frank (49:36):
That's so funny.
Lauren (49:37):
Oh man, I'm like I.
We have to.
We have to go talk, we have tosee a light show in Austin.
DeeDee (49:45):
I know I have so many more questions, but I think
we'll just do it in person yeah,we can have a round table with
you guys there with us and youcan ask all the questions you
want that would be fun.
Frank (50:02):
let me ask you one more question then we'll wrap it up.
Yeah, but like, if anybodyencounters an elemental or any
kind of like nature-based spirit, that and they say that they
feel like their space has beeninvaded, what can we do to, kind
of like, rectify that?
DeeDee (50:24):
What I'm finding out is that elementals really enjoy
shiny objects.
Frank (50:33):
Like leprechauns or raccoons.
DeeDee (50:35):
Yeah, like they really love shiny glittery things.
So if you want to be like, hey,you know, I know I pulled up
that shrub, you know, in theleft corner of the yard, you
know, and I know I disruptedlike your whole vibe back here,
so I'm going to put down like alittle gnome home and a little,
(50:56):
you know, disco ball planterthing and just kind of show you
some love.
That is helpful because theylove shiny glittery things, they
love little houses, they love.
Oh, they love.
Lauren (51:09):
Um, the shinier the better oh, just wait till we
tell our daughter about this oh,that's right up.
Frank (51:17):
Yeah, making like a gnome discotheque is going to be
perfect, that's my weekendactivity now yeah, like, and
she's going to be like.
Lauren (51:26):
yeah, I mean, she created a fairy house over the
summer.
She's like I don't think we hadshiny things in there.
Maybe we can actually get someactivity.
We need water.
We need a water source.
Frank (51:41):
I should ask one more question before we go, related
to what we're saying right now.
There's so much lore aboutfairies in particular and like
how I know, like the, what is itlike?
The, the irish or the scottishfae are such a thing that are
like respected but also feared,in a way like have you
experienced anything like that?
DeeDee (52:00):
that would be indicative that they are like something to
be afraid of um, I've only metone character that I that I
thought was pretty, uh,intimidating.
Um, it was also a characterthat sarah saw as well, and she
actually drew him.
He kind of looked like he had,he had legs, he, so he looked
(52:23):
like a human and he was verymuscular, he had horns and he
had like a, a very decorativebreastplate, and it was
basically.
He was basically on theoutskirts of a house that we
were looking at and we had askedcan we go beyond these gates?
(52:44):
And she's like, sure, go for it.
And we had gone beyond the gatesand I had sensed him
immediately.
But Sarah saw him and I waslike I don't, I'm not a fan of
his energy, woo, he's a lot.
And so she took some time, setsome time aside and she actually
drew him and, uh, I would haveto say he's probably the only
(53:06):
intimidating one that I've comeacross.
But also, too, I felt like inthat area again, this land
hadn't been touched in a longtime.
It's pretty, um, pretty much,um, I think it's several acres
that hadn't been touched there'strails back there there to walk
, but as far as that nothing'sreally been done.
I feel like he is the headhoncho there.
(53:28):
He is the main guy.
Like whatever happens he he hasit has to be run past him
before anything can happen.
Frank (53:40):
And did you sense that that was actually like an
elemental spirit or that it wasmaybe something else?
Cause I've heard a lot aboutNative American.
I don't know what to call themexactly.
I think they've been calledlike egregores or something.
But is that the right word?
Or it's like a thoughtmanifestation, like a thought
spirit, like something youmanifest in your belief in it?
DeeDee (53:57):
I feel like he was more elemental than anything, wow.
Lauren (54:03):
Wow, I wonder, does Sarah still have that photo or
that drawing?
Because I want to write to herand see if she could send me a
picture.
I'm sure she does.
DeeDee (54:12):
But this woman has tons of notebooks of drawings.
I don't know if she's able tofind it.
She has lots of notebooks ofdrawings that she's done.
So that would be the hard part.
It's for the notebook it's inbecause she has a lot.
Frank (54:28):
Okay, notebook gets in because she has a lot Okay.
So it sounds like the basicprotocol when you step into some
natural space is to show upwith respect.
Don't act a fool.
Lauren (54:43):
Introduce yourself.
Introduce yourself.
Frank (54:46):
And you know what?
Leave it better than you foundit, even if better than you
found it involves a disco ballgotta show the love, love that
that's so funny oh my goshthat's awesome.
Okay, alright yeah, dee, dee isamazing this is so cool, dee,
(55:08):
you're really cool.
Lauren (55:09):
Is there anything.
Frank (55:10):
I never asked anybody this, but is there anything that
you wish we would have askedyou in the interview?
DeeDee (55:16):
There is one thing I wanted to talk to you guys about
.
So there, well, there's acouple of things.
Healings is something that I doand I noticed on your
questionnaire is is, uh, youasked, do you work with children
?
Um, and, with my healing work,I do actually work with children
, Um.
As far as healings, um, yeah, I, I work on kids.
(55:39):
I have, uh, two or threeclients right now, um, that are
processing some trauma right nowas we speak and they, you know,
basically come with theirparents and we kind of do like a
gut check and haveconversations and then start
doing the energy work and theysleep a little bit better that
(56:01):
night and then we just meet upon a consistent basis and touch
base and if they've had a reallyrough week, say lots of tests
and things of that nature,they'll be like, hey, can we
squeeze in an energy healing?
I feel like my levels are at a10 and I need to be at a five.
Can we get together?
And like yeah, so I have amobile healing service that I go
(56:24):
out to their house so that whenI leave, they get to stay home
service that I go out to theirhouse so that when I leave, they
get to stay home, chill out,decompress and I cruise on home,
but they're in a space thatthey're safe in, that they know
they're fine in, and I lovebeing able to do the service at
their house and then bounce andthat way they can just chill out
in their house, not have toworry about driving or going to
(56:46):
Smarty.
Frank (56:46):
That's so great.
It's probably so much easier tolike integrate, reintegrate
what they've learned or thehealing if they're already in
their space.
It's not like out of theirenvironment, where they're just
in the healing mindset, whenthey're just, like you know,
with you in, like an office orsomething.
DeeDee (57:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah that is really smart.
I have a kiddo that shepurposely like will eat her
dinner, go take her bath andeverything like that.
So when I show up she's in herpajamas.
Frank (57:13):
And so.
DeeDee (57:13):
I do the work while she's in her pajamas, and then
she goes straight to bed.
Lauren (57:18):
Like she she doesn't do anything.
DeeDee (57:19):
So she like makes sure she's ready to go.
So like, yeah, when I work onher, she's on her pajamas and we
crack up, and she's like herpajamas and we crack up and
she's like next time can youcome in your pajamas?
Lauren (57:31):
I'm like, I absolutely can and I will.
Oh my god that's so cute.
Oh, that's awesome I love thatthat's so cool is your healing,
um?
Is it?
Is it reiki?
Is it?
Does it have its own?
Have you created your own likemodality, have you incorporated
multiple different, like energyhealings or like what is your
style?
DeeDee (57:52):
um, I get it.
I hear a lot that it's comparedto reiki.
Um, I haven't personally satdown with somebody who does
reiki to know that if it's thesame thing, um, I just know that
, basically, when I do myhealings, the healing comes from
source and it just filters downthrough my head and it comes
(58:13):
out through my arms and then outof my hands, and that's
something that, like I saidbefore, is one of those things I
struggled with in the verybeginning that I could do that,
but it seems to be somethingthat just speaks to my spirit.
So, um, I I really don't enjoydoing it for other people, um,
(58:35):
and and being there to help themon their journey, because a lot
of people are like well, I'mcurious, so I'm just going to
dip my toe in.
So, you know, I'll schedule asession with you and then later
on they're like well, I'm stilla little curious, so I'll
schedule another session.
Frank (58:53):
That's so cool that you like, developed your own, like
it's just an intuitive, likehealing that you're, you've,
you've created, like you justknow how to do it.
DeeDee (59:02):
Yeah, it's basically when I do it.
Um, sarah said that when she'swhen she sees me do it, she says
there's a whole different teamof divines that come up behind
me and they're there and presentwhile I'm doing it.
I haven't seen them because I'mfocused on what I'm doing.
But she says she's seen themand I'm like, wow, that's
(59:22):
fantastic that a whole differentgroup of divines come up behind
me to watch me do exactly whatI'm doing.
And so I'm like, okay, verycool, very cool that's awesome,
yeah amazing, y'all are so coolover there.
Frank (59:36):
Yeah, in Texas, well good did you have anything else that
you wanted to throw out ormention, or?
DeeDee (59:42):
I totally thought of you guys and I had to.
I wanted to share the storywith you, with both of you.
Um, so my friends and I went toa restaurant and we're having,
you know, a lovely, a lovelylunch, and, um, behind me I
can't see cause they're directlybehind me there's a couple,
it's a guy and a man, a guy anda girl and, um, they're
(01:00:05):
whispering to each other, blah,blah, and they're whispering to
each other, blah, blah.
The next thing I hear is I hearas if someone took their hand
and slammed it down on the tablethat they were at, and I was
like, well, and I'm the only onewho jumped.
So I'm like, oh no, so I juststayed.
I stayed facing my party.
(01:00:26):
I didn't look around, but Icould hear what was going on.
And there was a lady yelling atthe couple and I was like, okay
, if I turn around, she knowsI'm going to be able to hear her
.
So I'm like, let me just stay,not just stay at the direction I
am.
And my friend goes are you okay?
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah,give me just a minute the
(01:00:47):
direction I am.
And my friend goes are you okay?
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah,give me just a minute.
And listening to this lady, itturns out she was the wife of
the guy that was there with herbest friend and they just left
the wife's funeral.
Frank (01:01:01):
Oh my God, they'd been seeing each other.
DeeDee (01:01:04):
They'd been seeing each other for months and she didn't
know until she passed no, so shewas letting them have it.
Um, but I'm the only one whoheard the bang on the table with
her, like her hand, because shewas like what?
Oh my god and she was so mad,so I got up and I excused myself
(01:01:27):
and I went to the ladies roomand I came back because I I knew
I couldn't turn around and lookat her because then she'd want
me to like relay everything andI was like yeah, no thanks.
So I left, went to the ladiesroom and came back and when I
did, she had, you know,quietened down quite a bit, but
(01:01:47):
at least I could see her.
And she had, you know,quietened down quite a bit but
at least I could see her.
And I went, I sat back at thetable and my friend goes, are
you okay?
Like do we need to leave?
And I'm like no, no, no, no,we're good, we're good.
And she's like you sure, likeyeah, I'm sure.
And so this lady is behind me,is going how long has this been
going on?
(01:02:07):
Was this happening when I wasalive?
You two are awful.
And then she just lit into them, but they can't hear her.
So it just looks very likecasual no one's like Ooh, that's
insane, holy cow.
Frank (01:02:23):
How often does that happen to you, where you're like
you're just seeing that kind ofthing and no one else can can
pick it up?
DeeDee (01:02:31):
I'm sure it happens all the time, yeah well, I I make an
effort to not go into a lot ofcrowded places unless I have to,
yeah, so it doesn't happen thatoften.
Um, but yeah, that wassurprising.
I wasn't expecting that at all,I mean that's some juicy that
(01:02:52):
is wild, that is some treeworthy gossip, holy cow.
Lauren (01:03:00):
Okay, that makes me wonder, though, like, like is
the?
I know, I'm just grunting wehave, we have, like some people
say like, oh, like once you,once you cross over, like it's
(01:03:22):
all good, like you're just fullof love.
Was there an imprint orsomething that was like left
with the husband?
Frank (01:03:30):
this sounds pretty active .
Lauren (01:03:32):
This is a good question, though how does that work,
where, like because there's sucha difference between like now
I'm just one with everybody, butor are you still like pissed?
Yeah, that was a lot ofquestions, yeah, one, but um, I
just get like, how does thatwork?
DeeDee (01:03:52):
what it sounded like to me is that she didn't know any
of this until she died, rightbecause they'd hidden it so well
.
So to me it just sounded soundslike once she crossed over, she
got the real dish on what washappening yeah and then came
back to like lay into them so toto to like double down on your
(01:04:19):
question.
Frank (01:04:19):
Yeah, in a way.
Then, to be more specific, Ihave noticed that people that
come from the uh, thespiritualist tradition, they
often, uh, we'll say that, likeonce you pass, like there's
nothing but love and light, andlike, but then I'm like, well,
I've seen Sarah and DD and thewhole MPU team go out there and
have to deal with some like notso healed people in spirit form.
Lauren (01:04:43):
Yeah, I'm trying to understand where you evolve as a
spirit, where you just becomelike back in the collective and
you could be anywhere all thetime, or where you're just like
wait.
But first I have to processthis very earthly thing where
I'm pissed off because I justlearned something about my
(01:05:05):
stupid husband.
Yeah, best friend, yeah, Ifriend, yeah.
Frank (01:05:10):
I guess.
I guess we're just pointing outthe the division between these
two different like schools ofthought, I suppose.
Yeah.
DeeDee (01:05:15):
Yeah, I think she had to handle business first before
she ventured off to do otherthings.
I think, that was her, her goal.
Lauren (01:05:24):
That makes sense.
Frank (01:05:25):
I mean yeah, yeah.
Lauren (01:05:28):
Just like have to like.
You know, I think also, part ofit is like for our, for our
earthbound brains, where time isa thing I'm like well, she had
to like this is a thing thatneeds to be addressed right now.
Yeah, that's so, it's so.
That's so fascinating to me itis it is.
DeeDee (01:05:52):
And then I was like this you know what this is worthy to
share with frank and lauren?
Frank (01:05:56):
I need to tell you oh what a crazy story incredible I
love those two are just carryingon.
Lauren (01:06:03):
Yeah, the funeral, or like the day of the funeral, or
after.
DeeDee (01:06:07):
Oh my god yeah, after their funeral, because basically
she said they had enoughdecency to go home and change
their clothes and then they wentout to eat together yuck yeah,
that's so crazy it was a reallybizarre situation
Frank (01:06:25):
name names.
Let's call them out right.
Let's stick our viewership onthis.
Oh my God, that's so funny.
DeeDee (01:06:33):
You're in the Austin area, have you seen this couple
eat together?
Lauren (01:06:37):
Yeah, you like cracked a case.
Frank (01:06:40):
Yeah.
Lauren (01:06:41):
Didi, where can everyone find you if they want your
services or just learn moreabout you?
Give us all your plugs.
DeeDee (01:06:49):
Yeah, so if people are interested in personal intuitive
readings or animalcommunications or healing hand
sessions, definitely feel freeto reach out.
I'm going to be available athawkhealinghandscom.
You can also find me onInstagram and Facebook under DD
Hawk.
That's D E E, d, d E H A W K.
(01:07:13):
And yeah, feel free to reachout to me and we'll start the
journey together.
Lauren (01:07:20):
Love it.
Frank (01:07:21):
Is is.
Is that a chosen name or isthat your actual name, cause
it's like the coolest.
Lauren (01:07:26):
I was going to say how cool your name is.
DeeDee (01:07:39):
It's actually given to me by by sarah.
That's oh only cooler.
I love that dd hawk by sarahthat's amazing, that's awesome
all right yeah, perfect.
Frank (01:07:48):
Beautiful.
Thank you so much for talkingwith us today and taking your
time with us Like we askedridiculous questions and thank
you.
DeeDee (01:07:56):
I'm so glad you guys asked me.
I'm so honored to be on your,to be on your podcast and, yeah,
I can't wait to for you guys toget here to Texas so we can
meet in person.
Lauren (01:08:05):
Yes, us too, thank you.
DeeDee (01:08:08):
Vicky.
Lauren (01:08:08):
Yeah, have a good one.
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