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When a medical misdiagnosis shattered Erin Brown’s trust in the system she had worked in for 25 years, it sparked an unexpected spiritual awakening. A former nurse and medical instructor, Erin’s journey from science to spirituality began with meditation—and led her to powerful visions and a new path as an energy alchemist. 

In this inspiring conversation, Erin shares how she bridges the worlds of medicine and mysticism, explaining the Schumann Resonance and how Earth’s electromagnetic frequencies impact our bodies, moods, and creativity. Erin breaks down how energy patterns mirror emotional cycles, and how tuning into these natural rhythms can support our healing and growth. We also explore timeline shifts, quantum jumps, and the deeper meaning of ascension—not as escape, but as an evolving consciousness. Whether you're grounded in science or drawn to spirit, Erin’s insights offer a grounded, transformative lens for navigating life with more awareness.

To learn more about Erin or to book a session with her:

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Lauren (00:01):
Hiya pals.
In this episode, Frank and Ichatted with Aaron Brown, a
skeptical science-basedresearcher turned channel energy
alchemist and Schumannresonance expert.
We talked about how the sun'selectromagnetic energy affects
our emotions and physical bodiesand what ascension probably

(00:21):
actually looks like.
I'm Lauren Leon.

Frank (00:24):
And I'm probably actually Frank.

Lauren (00:27):
We are a married couple learning how to develop our own
intuition, and this is episode69 of Claire Voyaging.
Wayfeather Media presentsClaire Voyaging.

Frank (00:56):
What's going on?

Lauren (00:57):
Hello everybody, How's it going?
Oh, you know, little thislittle, that Little this little
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Lauren took a sick day todayyou know, and I pulled a card
that said rest and breathe itliterally said that yeah, and I

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Frank (01:22):
Thank you very much and she did, it's's true.

Lauren (01:24):
Yeah.

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So what's going on?

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Frank (02:44):
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It's true enthusiasm.

Lauren (02:56):
I'm so excited support the project support the project
listen, frank doesn't likeasking for support.
That is a big thing, he, whenhe pulls tarot cards, often it's
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Sometimes, yes, you do.
It's fine Listen he's like I'drather learn how to make my own

(03:18):
stove than have somebody comeand fix it for me.

Frank (03:21):
Have I watched videos on what it would take to
manufacture your own toasterfrom scratch?
Yes, but listen, did it start afire?
Yes, it did frank.

Lauren (03:33):
No, but it's okay.
But I want to just point outthank you very much, this ain't
this isn't your grandfather'sdocumentary.

Frank (03:40):
Okay, this is going to be a blast.

Lauren (03:42):
First of all your grandfather's documentary.

Frank (03:44):
I don't know, but it's going to be a good one.

Lauren (03:48):
So it is not your grandfather's.
Listen here's my grandfathermight like our documentary.
I would like it.

Frank (03:54):
I'm just saying, like you know, we're behind the helm
here and I don't know if you'venoticed, if you've gone and
checked out the other spiritualuh ask podcasts out there.
We're not your grandfather'spodcast either, for about
spirituality.

Lauren (04:09):
Specifically.
That's true we are weird, we'redoing our own thing.

Frank (04:14):
We're doing our own thing .

Lauren (04:16):
And the documentary will likely have elements of weird,
just as we are.

Frank (04:21):
Look, we're not in it.
We're not in it.

Lauren (04:23):
We'll be there, but we'll accidentally infuse it
with our weirdness.

Frank (04:27):
We don't know how to not.
Yeah, we might end up in thebackground somewhere.
But yeah, it'll be great.

Lauren (04:31):
It's going to end up being about us.

Frank (04:33):
Everything is about me.

Lauren (04:36):
Okay, let's get to Erin Brown.
She's so cool, so friendly andhas a ton of information about
the Schumann resonance, which issomething we started paying
attention to a few months ago.

Frank (04:48):
Ever heard of it.

Lauren (04:50):
Yeah, a lot of people haven't.
I've been the one going.
Well, of course you'reenergetically feeling a little
off, maybe a little tired.
It's the Schumann resonance andno one knows what I'm talking
about.
We're going to let Aarondescribe what that is.

Frank (05:05):
Ever wonder if there was some kind of frequency that was
affecting the entire collectiveat the same time?

Lauren (05:09):
Yeah.

Frank (05:10):
Well, welcome to it.
It's the Schumann Resonance,and Aaron Brown is going to
expertly describe what it is.
And I might want to throw intoo that you should go check out
our Patreon because there aresome additional detailed slides,
like a whole presentation shegives about it.
So, yeah, jump in there.
Yeah, and there's a coupleother parts too.

(05:30):
This was a long conversationthat I love erin so much.
I start my mornings with her.
Literally, I talk too much, andI did it again.

Lauren (05:37):
I kept being like she's gotta go frank yeah, she
literally asked more questions,but she, she's gotta go.
She literally had a ask morequestions.

Frank (05:44):
Well, she, she's got to go.
She literally had a client.
I was like hold on, one morething.

Lauren (05:48):
So what do you think about aliens?

Frank (05:52):
We didn't talk about aliens Finally we didn't talk
about aliens for once.

Lauren (05:56):
He's like can we compare notes about Star Wars?

Frank (06:02):
I do that with everybody about Star.

Lauren (06:03):
Wars.
I do that with everybody.
So without further ado, let'sget to Erin and our conversation
with her.

Frank (06:10):
All right, let's go for Erin.

Lauren (06:12):
We are go for launch.

Frank (06:14):
Say the thing, roll the tape.

Lauren (06:19):
Erin, thank you so much for joining us on Claire
Voyaging today.
We're pretty excited.
I know Frank listens to your orwatches your videos often about
the human resonance.
So let's back up a little bitand can we get some of your
backstory on how you got here,because I know you have like a

(06:39):
nursing background.
I do.

Erin (06:42):
Yeah, so I was a nurse for 25 years.
I actually worked inophthalmology so I helped people
see, did eye exams and helpedwith surgeries, and then at one
point I hit burnout with thatand so I left nursing and went
into teaching, and I wasteaching in the Department of
Healthcare Simulation at amedical school here in the
Chicagoland area for the lastlike five years or so.

(07:04):
You know, that's just kind ofprofessionally where I was.
I've never been interested inReiki or anything like that.
I've been very grounded inscience.
All of my studies have been in,you know, anything that is
tangible.
So keep that in mind.
And then I'd say I don'tremember what year it is, I'm

(07:25):
going to say 2017, 2018.
I was diagnosed with a diseasecalled APS, which is
antiphospholipid syndrome, andwhat that means is that your red
blood cells, the coating that'son there, gets stripped away by
your immune system and you clotvery easily and it can be
catastrophic and it can kill you.
And I was diagnosed with thisbecause I had a series of blood

(07:46):
clots that could not beexplained any other way.
So I got that diagnosis andbecause of that diagnosis my
whole life changed.
I had to take all thismedication that made me feel
terrible.
I had to change my lifestyle,all this stuff.
Then 2020 comes right.
The great year of COVID comesright.
So a couple of things happenedin a row that were really

(08:08):
interesting.
The first thing that happenedis we all got sent home from the
university.
Because of COVID you can'tteach in person.
Go home and I'm sitting at homeand I'm literally bored out of
my mind because what am Isupposed to do, right?
And then one day it occurs tome you know, I have access to
one of the greatest libraries inthe country and I've never done
my own research on my disease.
Well, that seemed ridiculousand I had nothing else to do.

(08:30):
So I log into the universitywebsite and get to the library
and start researching this.
As a nurse, I'm well versed inwhat's in my chart.
I know what tests I've had, Iknow all the results and as I'm
going through this research, I'mslowly recognizing that there
is a pivotal test that was notdone and it's dawning on me that

(08:51):
I'm recognizing somethingthat's not right.
So I did the whole nurse thing.
I printed out the studies, Ihighlighted circle, wrote it all
down.
I take it to my specialist.
I think it's important to notethat APS is extremely rare.
The specialist for this is anoncologist, not because they're
a specialist in APS, but becauseit's the closest thing.

(09:12):
So I go to my specialist and Itell him hey, I don't think I
had this test.
And he completely shut me downand he said nope, I'm the expert
, you're going to listen to me,you do what I tell you to.
Okay, so I left.
As someone who teaches medicine, that's that really badly with
me.
So of course I go no, that'snot right.

(09:34):
So I am sitting there one dayand I realized the doctor who
discovered this disease is stillalive and still teaching, and
so I thought, well, maybe he'sin COVID lockdown too.
I'm going to email him.
So I emailed him just to seewhat would happen and, knowing
how doctors are, I didn't askhim to diagnose me, but what I

(09:55):
told him was what I found, thetest I had.
And then I said if I were afriend of your daughter's, would
you be comfortable with this orwould you tell me that I should
probably get a second opinion?
And he emailed me back and hesaid I think you should get a
second opinion.
So I took all those test resultsand I went to my primary care
doctor, who's always beenwonderful, and at first, of

(10:17):
course, he's like no, no, no, no, I'm sure you've had this test.
And he literally sat with me.
It was like 45 minutes goingthrough these records.
He realized we didn't have it.
He goes I'm going to run thistest.
I'm sure it's just going toconfirm everything.
You're going to be fine.
He orders the test.
The next day.
I get a call and I can hear itin his voice and he said I need

(10:37):
you to stop immediately takingthis medication.
I need to tell you that youhave been misdiagnosed.
You do not have this disease.
You have zero markers for thisdisease and the medication
you've been taking for the lastseveral years we don't know what
it's going to do to your organsor to your body, because it was
unnecessary in your system.
Oh my God, dude.

(11:19):
So for someone like me who wasso rooted in science and
medicine and who had completefaith in what science and
medicine was telling me, itchanged my identity when that
happened, because I thoughteverything I knew was wrong.
Everything I knew was wrong Idon't know how else to explain
it and I kind of turned intomyself and for a good solid week
I didn't go to work, I didn'ttalk to anybody, I didn't really
leave my room for a whole week,because I could not wrap my
brain around how this thing thatI had built my entire life
around being true was wrong.

(11:40):
And also I had allowed myselfto fully identify as this
disease.
And so, when you take that away, I suddenly didn't know who I
was on top of all of this.
So that's where my awakeningstarted.
My daughter literally myteenage daughter came in my room
one day and she said um, haveyou ever thought about, you know

(12:02):
, like meditating?
And I go no, get out of here.
And she's like, well, I'm justsaying maybe you could try it.
And so I did, and it wasamazing.
It was the most incredibleexperience I've ever had.
I've never had a meditationsince then.
That's been that incredible.
I think for someone like mewho's so rooted in the physical,
I needed to have a massiveexperience in order for me to
accept it.
For someone like me, who's sorooted in the physical, I needed

(12:24):
to have a massive experience inorder for me to accept it,
because I am quick to judge anddiscount myself.
I'm quick to logic myself outof things.
Oh well, it could have beenthis, could have been that.
Blah, blah, blah, becausethat's how my brain has been
trained.
When you're in science andyou're in medicine.
The job is to weed out whatit's not, not figure out what it
is right.
So that's kind of how I workthrough things.

(12:44):
That's the story, long andshort, really.

Lauren (12:50):
What, okay?
So she said, do a meditation.
And you, just like you hadnever meditated before.

Erin (12:57):
Well, I mean I've done, I had done.
You know, here and there Notreally.

Lauren (13:01):
I have.

Erin (13:01):
ADD.
My mind is far too busy.
And the one she gave me was aguided meditation and to this
day I don't remember who it wasand I don't remember anything
they said.
I just know that because I knowhow stimulated I am.
I have a walk-in closet that'soff my bathroom.
Shut the door, go in thebathroom, turned off the light,
shut the door, went in thecloset, turned off the light and

(13:22):
shut the door.
It was black, dark in there,because if anything was going to
distract me, my mind was goingto ping pong all over the place.
I sat down, I put in my earbudsand I started listening to this
and I don't know what thisperson was saying or what
happened, but I started seeingthe most amazing colors and

(13:43):
explosions of colors and I feltlike I could reach out and touch
them with my hand and my mindcould not process this.
It was like watching fireworksright in front of your face and
then I saw this big.
It was like an earth right thatcomes up out of nowhere and I'm
watching it and as I'm watchingit, it starts to divide like
mitosis, like this.
And then suddenly there weretwo separate earths and then
they started to move like thisand as I'm watching it, it

(14:03):
starts to divide like mitosis,like this, and then suddenly
there were two separate earthsand then they started to move
like this and I saw that and myheart rate was so fast that I
went into a panic attack and itbrought me out of that
experience, but it was so likeeven telling you you can't see
it my whole body's broken out.
It's like it was so impactfulthat I had no choice but to

(14:26):
accept it as having been real,even as the deep skeptic that I
was about everything.
Because how can I discount that?
I saw it, I felt it, Iexperienced it.

Lauren (14:35):
Yeah.

Erin (14:36):
So now, what do I do?
So the first thing I did was Iwent to a psychic in a town near
me.

Frank (14:44):
You're all in now.

Erin (14:45):
Yeah, I'm all in because I couldn't find a reason.
I spent days trying to combthrough scientific reasons.
I thought, well, maybe I had anocular migraine.
Ocular migraines don't looklike the planet Earth.
I don't know.
That's not right.
I tried really hard to come upwith a reason.
When I couldn't, I thought Ihave to step outside of what I
know.
Now, just a little caveat sidestory that'll come back

(15:06):
interesting later is when I wasin my undergraduate studies in
psychology, my thesis paper wason fringe religion, Okay, and I
wrote my paper on Doreen Virtue.
So back in the day, DoreenVirtue is like the OG angel
whisperer.
She's the one who made stufflike this huge.
She's part of Hay House, or sheused to be part of Hay House.
Now she's gone to somethingelse, but she was huge back in

(15:30):
the 80s and 90s.
Right, Doreen Virtue, of course.
With a name like that, howcould you not be ripped her
apart?
I used psychology and scienceand I made, I literally pulled
apart everything she said, Right?
So now here I am, years later,trying to figure out what's

(15:51):
going on and the only thing thatcould come to my mind is that
paper that I wrote.
So that's why I went to thepsychic Okay, Sitting with this
psychic, and it was the firstreal psychic greeting I'd ever
had.
So I didn't know what to expect.
I'm super hyper, sitting in achair bouncing up and down like
what's going on, what's going onand he kept telling me he's
like you're just at thebeginning, You've got to relax,

(16:12):
and I'm just nope, that's notgood enough.
What's going on?
What's going on?
And he told me he said it'sgoing to take you a few years.
You have to let your brainrelax and then, when your brain
relaxes, what you need to knowwill come forward.
Instead of trying to forceyourself to learn something you
don't need to know, what youneed to know comes to the
surface.
He told me to calm down, take abreath and pick one teacher and

(16:35):
stick to that teacher until Ifelt like I was done with him
and I said great, who's theteacher?
He goes.
I'm not going to tell you thathe goes.
I'm not going to tell you thathe goes.
I want you to go on YouTube andjust whoever resonates with you
start going down that rabbithole.
And that's what I did.
Who was the teacher?
Ram Dass.
Oh yeah, oh okay.
But I didn't find him on YouTube.
My dad just mentioned.

Frank (16:55):
We were just talking about Ram Dass with your dad.
Yeah, that's so funny.

Erin (17:00):
His story is fantastic, but I didn't find him on YouTube
, interestingly.
A couple of days later, I'mgoing to visit my mom in Florida
, a couple hours on the plane.
I'm looking on my iPhone for apodcast to download.
I'm looking for something goodand murdery to listen to, and I
noticed that.
I had this big file on mine,like a whole podcast had been

(17:21):
downloaded, and I clicked on itand it was a Ram Dass podcast.
Never heard of this man, had noidea who he was, but it was
literally not just saved onpodcast list but downloaded to
my phone.
Is it possible?
My daughter did it, Of course,but probably not.
She wouldn't have thought thatfar ahead.
So I just thought, okay, well,I'll just listen to that.
So the whole ride down there Iwas listening to him and the way

(17:43):
he speaks and the way he talksabout things.
He doesn't discount science,which is important to me,
Because if you come at me andtell me there's only one way
that this is possible, I'm goingto tell you you're wrong.
There's never only just one way.
It's perspective that matters,and because he brought that with
him into his teachings, it mademe more open to what he had to

(18:04):
say, so he really opened doorfor me.
I read all of his books.
Over the course of about fouror five days I listened to like
five or six of his lectures,Like I was voraciously consuming
this information and that guy,that psychic I saw, was right.
There came a day where I justone day I kind of was like I

(18:24):
think I'm done with him and Ijust moved on to a different
teacher it was really funny.

Frank (18:29):
I want to point out real quick because I just looked up
Ram Dass, like literallyprobably on Tuesday, when we saw
your dad last.
Yeah, um, I had noticed that Ithink he like he passed away in
like 2019, so like he, he died,and then you immediately
launched into this experience.
That's so funny to me.

Erin (18:49):
I don't know why it feels like a handoff Like oh, here's
my collective work.

Frank (18:53):
Now I have an experience.

Lauren (18:54):
She's like I'll need all of it in four days.

Erin (18:59):
So a couple things.
I'm a really fast reader and hewrites really nicely.
It's like reading butter it'svery easy to read.
But the last thing of his thatI saw was by accident.
I was looking through Netflixfor something to watch and I
happened to see a Ram Dass thingpop up and I thought what the
heck is that?
I've never heard of him havinga movie or anything out and I
click on it and it was like a 15minute short film of him

(19:22):
basically saying goodbye to theworld.
He was in Hawaii and he'sfloating in the water and it was
right before he died and it wassuch a beautiful, fitting end.
I felt like he said goodbye tome and then just I was ready to
go on.

Frank (19:34):
How cool is that it's beautiful.

Erin (19:36):
But I'll always, always regard him as my first and
biggest influence ever in thisenvironment.

Frank (19:43):
So who did you learn from next after that?

Erin (19:46):
So then I found a woman named Christina Lope.
She's on YouTube, it'sL-O-P-E-S and I liked her
because she's an ex-doctor whowent through a very disruptive
spiritual awakening, whichincluded a terrible divorce.
She left her practice andeverything in the US and moved

(20:07):
to a whole nother country andjust reinvented herself.
Wow and she has a very clear wayof explaining things like
frequency, harmonics, vibration,because she also incorporates
that scientific side.
For me, and I think for a lotof people, your brain tends to
work one or the other way.
You either tend to have astructured, logical brain or one

(20:29):
that's more open toperspectives.
I call it the spaghetti sideright.
Part of the work of being humanis learning to balance those
two sides, but most of us areeither in one side or the other.

Lauren (20:41):
I'm all spaghetti Right.

Erin (20:42):
And I'm all structure right.
So for people like me, readingsomeone like Eckhart Tolle
doesn't work, because hisconcepts are very etheric in
nature, the way he describes himare very etheric in nature and
it doesn't give you a whole lotof solid to hold on to.
For people like me, I needsomeone who gives me the solid
to hold on to and then I canexpand from there.

(21:04):
I'm not someone who tends tojust take things because I said
so.
I've never been one of thosepeople.
But if you can explain to mewhy something's happening and I
can connect the dots myself, itmakes it much easier for me to
embody that understanding as myown, instead of trying to fit
your teaching into my vernacular.

Lauren (21:33):
That's very.
That's that's my scientificminded brother, like he would be
very much in line with how you,how you learn and process
things Right.

Frank (21:37):
Right, I was going to say you're a distiller.
Yes, I'm a distiller.

Erin (21:42):
Yeah, I just I could, for some reason it it just.
It feels silly to me to try todiscount the things that we
already know.
Like, science is real.
It's real.
It's just incomplete.
You know what I mean.
And science is slowly catchingup with the spiritual side of
things, like I literally justposted an article this morning
on my patreon channel about anew experiment that's being
talked about that's literallyproving that consciousness and

(22:02):
quantum entanglement are part ofthe same thing.
And when they prove that, theimplications for that are
astounding.
Because that's the idea of yourhigher self, that there's a
piece of you here and a piece ofyou here and you are learning
and spinning at the same rate.
Right, that's what that'stelling you.
It's amazing to me that this iswhere science is, but it also

(22:24):
is amazing to me that nobody'stalking about it.

Frank (22:27):
You, know, I think there's there's a lot of like
pushback, because people don'tunderstand, because science is
stepping into the spiritual, inin terms of like things don't
work the way we thought theywork.
It is not.
Not everything is black andwhite now, and just the very
concept of, of, of quantumentanglement is, uh, I want to

(22:47):
say a leap of faith, but itrequires a little bit of how
does that work?
And we can see it.
We can see that quantumentanglement actually exists,
but it's hard to explain.
We don't know why.
Right, so that leap of faith isreally killing some people.

Erin (23:00):
It really is, and you know , I saw that in medicine a lot.
You know, at the universitywhere I was working, I worked
with nothing but PhDs and MDs,so a very educated crowd, Also
an aging crowd.
So a lot of the people who wereteaching are professors who
have aged out of practice.
They no longer were to be indaily practice, so they're
teaching.
So a lot of the professors wereolder, and that doesn't make

(23:22):
them bad doctors, but they'revery stuck in their way because
when they were coming up, whatthey were taught was the
philosophy of the doctor isright, the patient doesn't know
anything.
And the doctor is right Becausewhen they were coming up,
Google and all of these thingsdidn't exist, and so to keep
people safe, instead of goingoutside and plucking some root

(23:44):
out of the ground you don't knowwhat it is they taught people
to just trust your doctor.
But times have changed and sothe teaching philosophy of
medical students needs to alsoreflect that.
I actually saw that a lot at theschool where I was came in
right before I left, I had a lotof students who were coming up
to me and asking when is itappropriate for me to suggest

(24:11):
acupuncture rather thanmedication?
When is it appropriate for meto help someone with their
anxiety by teaching themmeditation rather than giving
them a Xanad?
Where is the line they'rereally starting to try to feel
that out?
And there's also this new Imean it shouldn't be, but this
newer push to teach theseincoming doctors that while they
may one day be an expert on adisease or a process and I hope

(24:31):
they are they'll never be anexpert on a patient Never.
The patient is the expert onthe patient.
And if you will just ask, justask the questions, Like, as
someone who has chronic migraine, I can 100% tell you how often
I get them, how bad they are,what helps, what doesn't help,
what tests I've had, how long Ihad them.
I can give you all thatinformation and it takes away

(24:51):
all the unnecessary testing andspeculation if you just listen.
That's not to say that thepatient's always going to know
what they're talking about, butthey can at least give you that
and that gives you somewhere tostart.
It's nice to see that it's just.
The scientific community atlarge is like that and I hate to
say it, but until the oldergeneration sort of starts to

(25:12):
step away from the control ofhow science is processed, the
younger generation is not goingto be able to bring forward all
the stuff they're discoveringwith the new technology and
stuff like that.

Frank (25:24):
I think everyone has had an experience of a doctor who
doesn't listen.
Oh my God, it's like the thingthe amount of times I've been
told like conflicting things ortold that for example
hypochondriac.
Yeah.

Lauren (25:36):
Doctor would literally say like you're a hypochondriac.

Frank (25:39):
I'm like dude, no, I don't feel good.
And like or I went to.
I have a history of like gastroissues and to the point where
I'd have a surgery to fix I'mnot going to get into it, I had
to fix my esophagus.
But to that doctor I was likehey, you know, I'm willing to do

(26:00):
like massive like diet changesand I've started doing this a
diet called FODMAP, which isavoiding fructans and various
sugars and other things, andcalled FODMAP, which is avoiding
fructans and various sugars andother things.
And he was like oh well, I cantell you to change your diet,
but you're not going to do it.
I'm like no, bro, I've beendoing it for 10 years already.
I don't think you understand.
Why aren't you helping?

Lauren (26:14):
You don't know me, that's so weird.

Frank (26:17):
And of course that was my surgeon right.
So having doctors who don'tlisten are always know better
like that has to die.
There's an arrogance to it.

Erin (26:25):
There's an arrogance in medicine and science in general.
I think a lot of scientists andthis isn't necessarily to judge
them in any way, but it's justthe way science works is if you
can put your theory out to peerreview and your peer review
comes back and says, yes, thischecks out.
We tend to stop exploringfurther explanations to that.
You know what I'm saying, whenthat shouldn't be what it is.

(26:46):
Yes, you know that much to thispoint.
But what comes after that?
You know, this stuff in Egyptis a big piece of that, like a
whole example of that.
They're saying they're findingall this stuff in Egypt, which
is wonderful, I'm all for it.
I think they're right.
But the things we have toremember is this is not yet peer
reviewed, right.
So we have to be careful.
We can't make these bigassumptions about things.

(27:07):
But what they said in theactual study made sense.
Like I went and read the study.
They are not speculating thatthere's cities under there.
They're saying they don't knowwhat's under there, they can
just see it.
And I think what happens issensationalism runs away with
stuff and then people getgarbled in what actually was
said and what wasn't said.
You know, yeah yeah, completelyso.

Frank (27:26):
When science and hopeful thinking interact, it's always a
it's tiktok content yeah, yeah,yeah.
And then people turn it intofact dude, I deeply hope there's
like insane stuff under thepyramids, but I'm also like
let's wait a minute okay well,here's the thing, so you know if
, if what they're saying is true.

Erin (27:43):
So, so when I read the study, the thing that stood out
to me as a Schumann girly right,there's a paragraph down in
there that talks about how theway the pyramid is positioned
and if this is a resonancechamber, it could actually be
pulling off of the Schumannresonance, harnessing the energy
of the Schumann resonance andcreating a reverberation chamber
and then producing energychamber and then producing

(28:07):
energy.
So then I thought, well, isthat like electricity, like
light?
That seems weird to me.
So I went to chat GPT and Isaid I gave the study to chat
GPT and I said let's just saythis is all proven to be true.
Let's just propose If that'sthe case, what type of energy
would this produce?
And what chat GPT told me isit's more of an ambient energy.
So think of things likerefueling your Tesla or med beds

(28:27):
or walking through somethingthat has an energy field, or
healing.
It really brought up that itwould have a lot to do with
healing.
And then it throws in this nicelittle tidbit that said, oh
yeah, the kind of energy thatthese UAPs been seeing around
New Jersey have been reported touse that kind of energy and I
thought, okay, okay, here we go,here we go.
You know, it really opens upthe field to 100 different

(28:50):
things, but when you get down tothe science of it, it's very
exciting but unproven as of yet.
So I think we should allapproach it with caution.
But excitement, you know, justbecause it hasn't been proven
doesn't mean it's not true.

Frank (29:02):
Yeah, the amount of, like , the amount of of things that
are coming up lately and thenagain it could just be my, my
Tik TOK echo chamber but theamount of things coming through
lately, of people saying, hey,it really seems like some
ancient civilizations may havetapped into, to having, like,
their entire city be built onresonance, and even to the point

(29:23):
where you look at the oldcathedrals and stuff and you see
, like that, their um, theirdecor and decorations seem to be
the grand flower, right, yeah,yeah, big flower they all have
is like a cymatic pattern yeah,yeah, yeah, which, for those of
you who don't know, that's likewhen you I don't know if you've
seen those those fun experimentsto the listeners where, like,

(29:44):
people put sand on like a, aplate or something, and there's
a speaker underneath it thatplays a frequency and the
frequency actually shapes apattern in the sand.
They're saying that cathedralsmight have tapped into that type
of thing.
So, basically, the decorationsin the windows of cathedrals are
basically telling you exactlywhat frequency that cathedral is

(30:04):
tuned to.

Erin (30:05):
That's cool.

Frank (30:06):
So in an event where there's a bunch of people
singing or singing a specificlike a tune or harmony and and
and or frequency inside that,that cathedral it could have
been built for that and likepeople go there for that
specific frequency or thatspecific healing or that like I
don't know spiritual umexperience, whatever it might be
.

Lauren (30:24):
Right, right Can healing or that like I don't know,
spiritual experience, whateverit might be.

Frank (30:27):
Yeah, let's take a couple steps back here.
Sorry, I'm gonna be the linearone, sorry.

Lauren (30:37):
I have a question about the like.
When you went back to thinkingabout Dorian Dorian.

Erin (30:45):
Virtue Dorian.

Frank (30:46):
Virtue.

Lauren (30:47):
Dorian Virtue, and Did you revisit that paper?

Erin (30:53):
once you started, I couldn't find the paper, but
what happened was I ended upopening a brick and mortar
wellness center with a friend ofmine, and on opening day, a
friend, like a mentor of mine,comes in and this is before I
put all together the wholeDorian Virtue thing.
I'm still sort of going, ohthat's interesting, but not
really paying attention, just togive an extra push, right.

(31:14):
So he comes in, he's got a bagfull of books and I have not
told anyone about this story atthis point nobody he goes hey, I
want to, um, I want to donatesome books to you, to the store,
so, you know, for your libraryor whatever.
I'm like, okay, great, and Iopen them.
And everyone in that bag was adorian virtue book, so that's
for me.
When the moment was very fullof gravity I was like, oh hey,

(31:38):
oh my gosh.

Frank (31:40):
Look what I've become.

Erin (31:42):
Yeah, I feel like I have egg on my face and she literally
is laughing at me from wherevershe is right now.
That is so funny, I don'tremember what I said in my paper
.
But I do know I got an A on thepaper and that my psychology
professor was very impressedwith the tools I wielded but I'm
sure I was not kind and allkinds of stuff.

Frank (32:01):
Oh my gosh, that's very funny.
I want to know, I want to.
I want to see your transitionfrom going like oh, I'm studying
this, I've opened a wellnesscenter to like I, I.

Erin (32:10):
How do you go from like I think there might be something
more to I'm going to teach thisnow go from like I think there
might be something more to I'mgonna teach this now, right, so
that's where the shuman comes in, really, okay.
So once I go through thisawakening experience, um, I
don't remember exactly the timethat passed, but I was having
lunch with a friend of mine whowas a meteorology student and I
was remarking to him how I thinkI made a joke about pms or

(32:31):
something and I was like youknow, the moon's always
affecting me and he saidsomething like you, you know,
have you ever heard of theSchumann?
I'm like what is that?
And he said, well, it's thisblah, blah, blah.
And he explained it to me andhe showed me on his phone this
app and he goes so how are youfeeling today?
Or he said something like that.
Whatever, the conversation wasled me to make a connection.
So, yeah, so the Schumannresonance is a of extremely low

(32:51):
frequency ELF electromagneticwaves that all naturally occur
between the Earth's surface andthe ionosphere.
It's like a sponge or a cushionaround the Earth, right?
The main resonance of this is7.83 Hertz.
It has harmonics, so it goes upand it goes down, but the basic
harmonic frequency of the Earthitself is 7.83 Hertz.

(33:13):
Based on all this energy, so, Igot download the app and as a
scientist, I always want proof.
So I started to keep a log andevery single day for a full year
I wrote down what I observed onthe graph versus how I felt
versus the next day, and everysingle day I wrote that down.
And then, once I did that, Itook that because I was still

(33:35):
teaching at the university.
I took that to the universitywhere we have an AI engine, and
I plugged in all these numbersinto this statistical thing and
it spit out statistics and, sureenough, there was a bell curve
and I thought well, that'sinteresting, because when that
happens, that's statisticalsignificance and in science that
means you have something, youhave a theory, you have

(33:56):
something you can work with.
So that after I started doingall that observations, when I
really started to dig into it,because I really didn't expect
to see any correlation, I didn'texpect to see the pattern,
right.

Frank (34:08):
And this is emanating from the earth.

Erin (34:11):
No.
So these frequencies areproduced by lightning strikes,
they're produced by tectonicplate movement and they're
produced a lot by cmes from thesun.
Um, so when we get big solarflares and ejections of plasma
and protons, that all hits ouratmosphere and kind of gets
stuck in the ionosphere and sortof bounces around like this and

(34:34):
it starts out strong and thenit loses and then it dissipates.
So it's kind of like a cushionfor the Earth.
The Schumann resonance is themeasurement of that energy.
So it's not actually a Schumann, it's just energy.
The guy who discovered its namewas Schumann, so that's why
it's called that.
But this is a daily measurementof that energy.
There are many differentaspects to this.

(34:55):
They measure ELF, ulf, allthese different ones, and there
are many different reportingstations all over the globe.
There's one in Italy, there'sone in Russia, there's one, I
think, in Denmark.
They're all over the place.
Each of those stations measuresa different aspect of that
resonance, right?
The only one that I really paya whole lot of attention to is
the one in Russia.

(35:15):
The reason is because that'sthe one I started with, that's
the one I studied and that's theone I feel most comfortable
with.
But that shows ELF, that'sElectromagnetic Extremely Low
Frequency, which I love theirnaming, you know, extremely low,
ultra low.
Who came up with that?
How much do you get paid forthat, schumann, if you think

(35:41):
about it, if the main resonanceis 7.83 hertz, the reason that
made me so interested is becausestudies have shown that human
brain waves, especially alphaand theta, naturally synchronize
with that frequency.
So this links the earth'srhythm, the 7.83 hertz, the
cycles that the earth goesthrough it, links it to things

(36:03):
like your circadian rhythm, howyou sleep, your awareness.
All this gets linked to this.
It's all affected.
And then the other thought Ihad was well, our physical
bodies are electrical in nature.
Our heart and brain works onelectricity basically.
And if you're a part of aplanet that's being bombarded by
the electricity that's kind ofbouncing around, it was logical

(36:26):
to me to assume that it wouldaffect us as electrical beings
in some way, especially becausethe ground is oppositely charged
, right, yeah?
So if the ground is oppositelycharged than us, then it stands
to reason that we would be morein tune with that.
So that's kind of where Istarted.
So after I get all this data, asa scientist, I'm looking at all

(36:46):
this thinking, I'm losing mymind and I thought well, what
would a scientist do?
Right?
So the next thing a scientistdoes is put it out for peer
review.
Right, so the next thing ascientist does is put it out for
peer review.
So then I thought I'm justgoing to put it out on TikTok,
because it honestly felt saferthan YouTube, because there were
less doctors following me onTikTok than YouTube.
I'll put it out on TikTok justto see what would happen,

(37:07):
because, again, I'm stillteaching at the university at
this point.
Right, put it out there.
And the response wasoverwhelming.
It was unbelievable how manypeople started emailing me and
reaching oh my God, this is soright, this is so right.
So I just kept doing it everyday, because if it helps
somebody who's not sure what inthe world is happening right now
feel a sense of control, thenit's worth every ounce of work

(37:29):
that I've done for it.
Because when I was in thatstate, I hated that feeling.
I don't know what's going on.
I don't know what's going on.
I don't know how to help myself.
It's very uncomfortable to feelin that state.

Lauren (37:38):
So any way I can help this is the easiest way for me
to do it, I think so you startedrecognizing physical responses
that were in line with whatshowed up on the graph.
The graph kind of looks likewhat does that graph look like?

Frank (38:00):
It's almost like if you've seen a Richter scale,
almost like a chart forearthquakes, but it's in light
instead of lines.

Erin (38:07):
Right, yeah, well, it's in frequency, so the color is on
the frequency.

Frank (38:13):
Okay, First I'm going to ask you this very macro question
why is this happening?
What are we supposed to do withit?

Erin (38:23):
Well, I think we, as humanity, have reached a tipping
point where we need to make adecision.
We need to decide if we'regoing to stay very
material-based, which is wherewe've been, or if we're going to
allow ourselves to expand intoa place of balance where we find
the balance between thematerial and the non-material,
the etheric right Something Ilike to point out to people when
they dismiss the idea ofAtlantis or any of those things

(38:45):
if we had a cataclysmic eventright now all of our technology
disappeared they would belooking at us exactly the way
that we look at these placesthat we think didn't exist,
right?
So this is, to me, just arepeated cycle that comes up
over and over and over in Earthhistory not necessarily humanity

(39:05):
, but Earth history, becauseeverything in nature tends to
have that spiral pattern.
Right?
That's the Fibonacci sequence,right?
So until we learn the lesson,we are doomed to repeat the
problem, right?
So I think we've come to thenexus point again, as humanity
on earth, to decide which way dowe want to go.

(39:25):
Do we want to go one way wherewe stay rooted in?
I only believe what I can see,and there's black and white
issues, and everybody one or theother, or am I going to be open
to the idea of perspective andI still have more to learn and
science is not complete, andthat there's more to the story?
Because when you pull away fromthat, they're very different
realities.

(39:46):
They're very differentrealities.
So I think why all this stuffis happening, which coincides
just with us reaching the solarmaximum right now for our sun,
so I think everything'shappening all at one time very
purposely.
I think there's no denying whatastrology is telling us is

(40:06):
going on right now lines upperfectly with what the Vedic
calendar's been telling us,lines up perfectly with all this
stuff in the Mayan culture,lines up perfectly with the Hopi
prophecy, lines up perfectly.
I mean, you can go down thelist and it's uncanny how many
things literally feel likethey're coming together.
I mean, how many times do wehave to be told we have a tale
before we turn around and go?
I should have a tale.

(40:27):
How many times do they have totell us that?
Literally all of the propheciesif you just sit down and look
at them, there are so manycommon threads that are
happening right now.
People talk about the return ofChrist.
This is the return of Christ,my friends.
This is the return of Christconsciousness.
You're looking for a person.
It's not a person, it's aconsciousness.
It's an awareness that we allhave everything we need within

(40:51):
us and when we turn within andlisten here, we don't need this
out here.
But all the people that havemade their life on controlling
all of this out here don't likethat, and I don't know that they
do it maliciously.
I think some people do, but Ithink, just out of a sense of
losing control, that there's alot of pushback from the other
side and that's what makes thedivide so great.

Frank (41:17):
So this is like in terms of oh and for anybody who
doesn't know that, the solarmaximum is the this the sun is
having more.
Uh, the sun's acting up in away that it's supposed to, but
it's doing it way harder thesedays.
That's the tantrums.

Erin (41:29):
You know I'm not a geologist so I don't know the
actual numbers, but we are rightin the middle and I will tell
you that our solar maximum Iknow for a fact where we are
right now is way stronger thanthey ever anticipated it or what
they predicted it to be.

Frank (41:41):
It's like 50 stronger yeah, it's a lot of tantrums and
it's funny when you think about, like ancient civilizations and
stuff.
Um, we're really, you knoweveryone thinks, oh, this, this,
how can all this ever go away?
we're really just one solarflare, one real good solar flare
, away from losing everythingyeah, like yeah, and so it's not

(42:02):
out, it's not out of reason tolike say you know we can lose
all of this.
And what would you choose, youknow, if we were set back to the
stone age?
And I sometimes wonder ifthat's what the all of this
would be leading up to.
Is we need to get into a placewhere we're okay with that and,
and you know, if we're soattached to this material world,
like, what kind of spiritualitycan you possibly have?

Erin (42:25):
Right, you know, I think yes and no.
I think I don't think we we canreally anticipate what it
really means, because I don'tthink our brains are smart
enough.
But to me it's the idea ofchoosing where I'm paying
attention, creating my ownreality.
So Bashar says it all the timethat there's two different
realities and they're pullingaway from each other and they're

(42:45):
like trains moving in oppositedirections.
Just because the train's movingaway from you doesn't mean you
can't see it.
But a perfect example of adifferent timeline like this is
a freaky story.
You guys.
This is awesome, it justhappened.
You're the freaky exclusive,okay, yes, I was invited to go
bowling with some friends lastweekend and I was like sure,
let's go bowling.
So my husband and I go andwe're getting ready in the

(43:08):
garage and I'm sitting in thecar.
I'm like what is taking him solong to get in the car?
And I look over and he's got abowling bag in his hand he's
holding up.
He goes do you want this?
And I go what is that?
He goes it's your bowling balland I go what?
He goes it's your bowling balland I go what are you talking
about?
He goes it's your bowling ball.
It has your bowling shoes in it.

Lauren (43:32):
Do you want it?

Erin (43:32):
And I'm looking at him going oh, like I had zero
recollection of that until hesaid it and pulled me out of
where I am.
All the way back there, I hadzero memory.
I would have walked into thatbowling alley, would have never
thought about it, neverconnected to that, nothing until
he pulled that out.
And that's like the othertimeline.

(43:54):
Look at, do you remember thisNow?
When I put those bowling shoeson, they were a full size, too
big for me, what A full size.
And he's looking at me goingthose have to be your shoes,
because they're a size seven.
I'm a man, I wear a size 12.
They're not mine and they'repurple, so they're definitely
yours.
Sitting there and I'm goingwell, how is it possible?

(44:16):
He goes well, maybe you werewearing really thick socks, it
was winter and I'm like no,that's not what's happening here
.
So I can't explain how my footis a full size smaller than it
was when I got those shoes.
I can't explain how I had zeromemory of that until he
literally brought it up.

(44:37):
And even now when I think aboutit, it's so foggy.
It's like trying to remember adream.
It's like I can't remember thedetails.
I can't remember anythingspecific until he says it and
then it comes back.
But that's kind of what I meanwhen you're creating your own
reality.
Where I was at that time in mylife is so removed from where I
am now that it's not even partof me anymore, right?

(44:59):
So was that like years ago?
Yeah, so he said it was when Iliterally don't really remember.
I know my kids were little, somy daughter is almost 23.
My son's 18.
And they were small enough thatthey had to go with us
everywhere and my son was a painin the butt, so he was probably
five or six years old, so it'sbeen at least probably 12, 13

(45:19):
years.
And it's very true.
I'm a very, very differentperson now than I was then and
it's like a whole shift to adifferent timeline.
Oh, that's so interesting.

Frank (45:30):
Is there any?
The first of all what's funnyis that like I, Is there any?
First of all, what's funny isthat, like I know you've told me
before, like when people, whenwomen get pregnant, after they
have kids and stuff, if anything, their feet get bigger.

Lauren (45:40):
Yeah, yeah, my feet got like half a size bigger.
Yeah, like that's a thing.

Frank (45:45):
Is it?
Does it make you feel good atall to know that somewhere on a
timeline there's an Erin who'sgot giant feet and she's just
throwing turkeys down the downthe lanes all the time?

Erin (45:56):
Well, it makes me feel good to think that she has the
fashion sense to get thoseadorable shoes, cause they were
really and it was felt betterthan putting my feet in the
bowling shoes.
You know that from the plate Ijust stuffed the back of them
with a sock.
I mean it was big enough that Icould stuff a little sock in
there to hold my shoes.

Lauren (46:12):
stuff a little sock in there to hold my crazy.

Frank (46:13):
Oh my gosh, that's so funny, so let's like hold on a
minute now.
So earlier you were talkingabout.
You were talking about how, um,the human sometimes expects us
if you can personify it that wayto.
It hits us with an energy andwe're supposed to meet it as as
much as we can.
Is that indicative of, of likea quantum jump in some way into

(46:38):
like a new version of ourselves,or what exactly?
Is it so that you areexperiencing something like a
Mandela effect in that capacitywhere you have to remember
something that you almost haveno personal experience with?

Erin (46:50):
Yeah.
So what I have found is themore aware you are, the more
awake you are, the moreconscious choices you make, the
more you move away frombehaviors that were prominent
when you were unconscious.
So, for example, I no longerdrink alcohol, I no longer eat
meat, and these were things thatjust sort of happened very
naturally, not because I needed.

(47:10):
I felt like, oh, they'reterrible.
I just they didn't feel.
If I ate a hamburger, I didn'tfeel good after I ate it.
I felt like, oh, they'reterrible.
If I ate a hamburger, I didn'tfeel good after I ate it, so I
stopped eating it.
It wasn't anything monumental,but over time I slowly started
to watch these things fall awayand I sort of entered into this
whole new state.
When I entered into this placewhere I'm focused more on
intuitive health and intuitiveeating and all these things, I

(47:31):
started to notice that the stufflike bowling and all the things
that meant a lot to me justdon't resonate anymore.
So I don't think about them, Idon't draw them into my timeline
, and I see this happen with alot of people.
It's a state I like to callcompression.
I kind of borrow that term fromBashar, but it's, you know,
your whole life.
You're told ask someone else.

(47:52):
You're never told to ask you.
You're never told to trustyourself.
You're told to trust yourdoctors, your parents, your
teachers, your lawyers, butnever you.
And when you come intoawareness and come into
awakening, you're finally beingtold and given permission to ask
yourself.
So your energy, instead ofbeing outward facing, turns
inward facing, and in doing thatit pushes away, kind of like

(48:14):
putting a drop of dish soap in adirty sink.
It pushes away all the stuffthat doesn't resonate with
what's trying to propagateinside.
And so you tend to go throughthis phase where you sort of
jettison a lot of stuff, and alot of people equate that with a
timeline jump or a quantum jump, because you feel like a
different person, because you'renot around there, and it is far
as I, as far as I'm concerned.

(48:36):
But it's not about changingyour timeline.
You're changing your timelineall day long.
It's just staying moreconsistently on the one that
feels better, if that makessense I feel like I kind of
talked in a circle on that one,but I hope it made sense no, I
love that idea of ask yourselfthough, like that.

Lauren (48:54):
That just made me think of when I was a kid I've told
you this before, frank that likebeing told sometimes, like I
know you better than you knowyou right, was like, don't like
thinking about it.
Now I'm like that's nice, youknow, like that's a, it's a,

(49:20):
it's a nice intention, but it'salso like deeply like removing
your own power.
You know, without it wasn'tlike a malicious thing to say,
but it really does like thatkind of just removes your own
personal power and that'ssomething that we're taught in
our current society over andover and over again you know

(49:41):
when you go to the doctor.

Erin (49:42):
They don't ask you what do you think is wrong.

Lauren (49:44):
They tell you what they think is wrong you know, and
that's part of the problem, youknow like there's a whole lot of
that going on with every yeah,I mean just the non-stop like
self-doubt, just perpetuated byevery single adult as you're
growing.
Yeah, what?

Frank (50:03):
Oh nothing.
We say it by adults and I'mstill encountering people who
feel like adults to me, tellingme what the hell to do, show
about the guardrail set up for,like what we're and breaking out
of that mold, of what we'reshown reality is supposed to be
and what the mold we're supposedto fit into.
Right, and like checking on theshuman resonance, it seems like

(50:24):
these are moments when we havean ability to a stronger ability
than usual, to step into ourown yes, it has the potential to
give you a reason why.

Erin (50:33):
So you don't feel so out of control and when you see
those big white pushes on theshuman, it's not ever going to
be forced on you, but it's oneof those things.
Hey, I have the opportunity toopen up to this and if I let go
of my disbelief and everything,you have to trust that it'll
settle in.
And for some people it affectsthem dramatically and some

(50:54):
people it barely affects them.
But you're getting effect allthe time from it.
It's just being open toaccepting it.
That's all you have to do.
People ask me all the time whatdo I need to do?
What do I need to do?
Nothing, you don't need to doanything.
You need to stop doingsomething.

Frank (51:06):
Stop telling yourself that you can't Stop telling
yourself.

Erin (51:08):
It's not what you need to do.
It's what you need to stopdoing.
It's not what you need to do.
It's what you need to stopdoing.
Everything is trying to reachyou Manifestations like a river
going in your direction.
The problem is the rocks thatyou put in the way.
So when you move the rocks, itcan reach you.
You don't have to go get it.
It's coming to you.
It's matching a frequency.

Lauren (51:29):
It's literally a matching of frequencies, and so
what are like the big?
When you see a big like streakor a big white energy, like what
are the things to kind of payattention to in your body?
Or like we have little kidssometimes you know there's
always something that they'reacting up about, but sometimes

(51:51):
it's like this whole house hasbig emotions or like everybody
here is exhausted and there'snot a real explanation for why
or whatever it is you are beingoffered the opportunity to
embody a higher frequency.

Erin (52:06):
And in order to do that, when you create I mean, if you
think, if creator is all of theuniverse the act of creating is
channeling that energy throughyourself, right?

(52:26):
So the best way to access thisenergy is to go into some sort
of state of creation.
That doesn't mean you have topaint a work of art or you have
to create a Picasso, but dosomething that helps you feel
creative.
For me, a lot of times, it'sorganizing my kitchen or
cleaning my house.
That makes me feel good, butthat's you letting that energy
into your system.
It doesn't have to be definedabout what anybody else's
definition of creative is.

(52:47):
It's for you, right?
For little kids on days likethat, I like to call that a
ya-ya day.
You got to go outside and runand jump and scrape and swing
and be loud.
Get all your ya-yas out,because little kids don't have a
lot of filter.
So when this big energy comesin, it makes them very energized
and they don't know what to dowith it.
As adults, we know we can dosomething creative or whatever.

(53:10):
As kids, we need them to sayhey, let's go to the park, let's
go play air guns, or let 's godo have a water gun fight or
something.
Let's go get out of the house,do something like that.
On the days with the red energy,that is, release days.
That's when your energy isbeing invited to release.
Anything you've been working onthat to this point is no longer
serving you.
So those are the days wherepeople tend to be more tired,

(53:33):
more reactive, more emotional.
On those days, I tell peoplejust listen to your body.
If your body, if you sit downto work and you are forcing it,
then you need to walk away fromit.
If your body's tired, take anap.
If you feel like you need tohave some macarons, then you
need to have some macarons.
Just stop trying to fit intosomebody else's definition of
self-care.

(53:54):
Right, do something foryourself that feels good for you
, as long as you're not hurtinganybody else.
Yeah, I to that the biggestthing is, when you feel inspired
, do your best to follow up onthat inspiration in the moment,

(54:22):
if you can, even if it's justwrite it down.
Because when you are receivinginspiration from source, you're
not meant to be a sponge.
You're like a straw.
It's meant to come in and goout, just like an emotion is
meant to come in and go out.
You're meant to experience andrelease.
So when you get an idea, writeit down, catch it.
Even if you can't followthrough it in that moment, catch
it, write it down.
I have a book, a little purplebook, right here.
I literally carry it everywherewith me.

(54:43):
I will open this book and readsomething I wrote in here six
months ago.

Frank (54:48):
Oh my God that's such a great idea, I should do that.

Lauren (54:52):
But you got to catch it.
You got to catch it like but asyou're seeing, like, uh, a
streak or a color, it's like howlong does it?
Last, yeah, or like now for thenext, like two, like the whole
day I should be well, or likewhatever well, you just do it

(55:12):
until you feel better.

Erin (55:13):
You do it until you feel like you've reached that.
You know, kind of like when youtake your kids to the park to
get all the ya-ya's out.
You let them run until theyfinally feel like, okay, I got
it out and then you get back toyour normal thing.
But if it comes up again, thenyou get back into a state of
creativity.
If there's a day with big whiteenergy and you literally feel
nothing, you don't feel out ofplace, nothing feels off.
It doesn't mean there'sanything wrong with you or that

(55:33):
you're behind or anything.
It just means that there'snothing that you need to embody
right now.

Frank (55:38):
Yeah, I've taken that to mean like I'm in alignment with
whatever this is.

Erin (55:42):
It's kind of like going to a buffet right, you have the
option, but you're never forcedand sometimes you're full when
you get to the buffet, so youjust move on.

Frank (56:00):
But sometimes you're starving, so you take of it.
You know, and it's notnecessarily a conscious choice,
it's based on your energy, whereyou are, what you're working on
, all that sort of stuff.
Actually, lauren, this is areally good opportunity because
we're lucky that we even havethese graphs people didn't used
to, uh, and really we're kind oftrying to tap into the, the
energy of the collective at anygiven moment, right for For you
in particular, because youstruggle sometimes with, like,
the interoception of your own,like emotions and feelings it's

(56:22):
great to like.
it would be a great practice foryou to kind of assess your
feeling and how you're feelingthat day and then refer to the
graph and like see what's goingon, or just check out Aaron on
TikTok.

Erin (56:33):
Yeah, well, yeah, and I always encourage, I want
everybody to do that, because Ican only offer you how I feel.
I only have one perspective.
It's going to affect all of usdifferently, just like if I take
penicillin, you take penicillin.
They're going to affect usdifferently, even if neither one
of us is allergic cellularlevel, it's going to be
different.
Energy is the same way.
It's going to affect everybodydifferently.
The way it's going to affecteverybody differently.
The reason I put that out thereis to show you that there is a

(56:55):
correlation, that if you payattention.
If you start paying attention tothis, you can see patterns, so
that now when I open the graph,if I see a big red patch coming
in, I know it's not a good dayto call my sister.
You know what I mean.
I can sort of figure stuff outfrom that.
It's not that the graph istelling me.
That's how I feel.
It's me looking at it and going.

(57:16):
I might not be feeling sotalkative today with her.
It's kind of like a horoscopeor something, but it has more of
a grounding in somethingtangible like science, like
frequency and the movement ofyour brain, oscillations of your
energy and all that.

Frank (57:33):
We never got back around to and I wanted to ask you did
you figure out the thing?

Erin (57:39):
no, never had it again and I went away went away never had
it again.

Frank (57:45):
Do you ever think that sometimes you get physical
manifestations of dissonancethat you are putting yourself
through?
100 okay, and then when youcame around to learning all this
, it went away yes and no, Idon't.

Erin (57:58):
I think that the blood clots were probably part of some
energetic block, but I thinkfor me, because I was so rooted
in science, it took me losing myfaith in science to look at
something outside of that.

Frank (58:11):
Yeah, okay, I used to suffer from debilitating panic
attacks and turns out, myintuitive gifts are in the form
of feeling and I was on Prozacand stuff and that was the only
way I was able to survive for awhile.
And I don't know if Prozac didsome rewiring, but since I've
been off now for like months andI'm beginning to realize that

(58:33):
I'm able to feel more of peoplearound me and no panic attacks,
so I don't know, I don't know,you're right, you're right and
you know what it is the paniccomes from not knowing what it?

Erin (58:49):
is Now that you know what it is.
The panic is not part of itanymore, because you're able to
recognize it doesn't necessarilybelong to you.
Before you were embodying it asbelonging to you.
Now you know it doesn't, and soyou're able to remove yourself
a little bit from it and giveyourself some buffer space.
That's all you're doing is justrecognizing self.

Frank (59:05):
That's absolutely correct .
So many of my, so many of mypanic attacks.
I'd be looking at Lauren.
I'm like I don't know, I'm notthinking of it and there's
nothing bothering me, but I'mhaving a panic attack.
So being able to like separatethat and know what's going on I
also just giving myself time toisolate and recharge yeah, I
have days I call them my fold-updays.

Erin (59:26):
I have whole days that I just don't do a thing because it
is a lot of energy expenditurewhat I do.
I'm performing basically fortwo hours straight on TikTok and
then I have a whole afternoonof client after client after
client, and so I'm constantlygoing.
So every once in a while I'lltake an entire day off and I
literally will do nothing.
I will watch the worst TV I canfind, like 90 Day Fiance bad,

(59:48):
I'm all in the drama and then, Iwill eat all kinds of macaroni
and cheese and ho-hos and icecream, but I will give my body
the chance it needs to sort ofpull all of my energy back and
then the next day I'll alwaysfeel fine and I'm able to get up
and move around and do whatever.
But I have to give myselfpermission to have those days.
I used to push through them andit would elongate it Instead of

(01:00:10):
being one day, it would beweeks.
But if I just listen, I can sitdown and deal with it and then
come out of it and be fine.
And I think that's part of ourproblem as society is, we want
instant gratification andinstant fix, but sometimes you
need to feel your feelings, yeahwell, I mean we are have taught
ourselves that there's merit inthe pain right, yeah and

Frank (01:00:31):
that's well emotion.

Erin (01:00:33):
Emotion is energy in motion.
It's meant to visit release,visit release.
We as humans, visit a anemotion that we don't like.
We go I don't like that and wegrab it and we shove it down.
We go, stay right there and weliterally push it down into us.
We didn't release it.
But if we had just done whatwe're supposed to do feel the
sadness and let it leave oursystem, instead of saying I

(01:00:55):
don't want to feel this way,just feel it.
Just feel it, it will leave, itwill go away.
It's just doing its job.
It's your indicator of whereyou are in alignment with
whatever it is that's happeningto you.
If someone dies and you'refeeling fear, you feel the
misalignment for them not beingthere and you being here.
That's all you're feeling,right?
If you have fear around takinga test, you're feeling the

(01:01:18):
misalignment between your higherself, knowing you'll be fine,
and your lower self, not feelingthat confidence.
That's all you're feeling, andif you can just let yourself
feel it and walk through it, youcan let it go instead of
squashing it down and pushing itinto yourselves and having a
physical manifestation.

Frank (01:01:34):
You're talking about how your intuition comes through a
lot in visions and stuff andearlier you had mentioned that
you were in a meditation and youreceived some information that
way.
How are these?
How is that?
How do your meditations work?

Erin (01:01:46):
My meditation.
So I, because my brain is sobusy, I don't do meditation
where you sit alone in a room.
I do a lot of activemeditations and what that looks
like for me is my body,physically, is moving, doing
something, and my I have likeeither frequency, tones playing
or something else going on.
Nothing with words, because ifit's words it's going to

(01:02:07):
distract me.
I'm trying to listen, but somekind of tone or frequency and I
do this like in the morning whenI'm getting ready, when I'm
taking a shower and gettingready, I have frequency playing
and tones playing and all thisstuff and I'm getting visions
and stuff coming through, likewhen I'm in the shower, I get
out of the shower, I do mynormal stuff and I'm getting
visions and stuff coming through, like when I'm in the shower, I

(01:02:28):
get out of the shower, I do mynormal stuff.
One of the ways I talk to myguides is I have a playlist.
Part of my clairaudience isthat music really affects me and
if I hear a song that gives methat full body feel, I will
Shazam the song, put it on myplaylist.
In the morning, part of mymeditation is I open that
playlist and I close my eyes andI say tell me a story.

(01:02:49):
And I hit shuffle and the firstthree songs that come up will
give me an indication of how myday is going to go based on how
I feel You're like givingyourself your own patterns.

Frank (01:03:00):
You're giving yourself something to respond to.
Yeah, really cool, yeah, andyou know giving yourself
something to respond to yeah,which is really cool.

Erin (01:03:04):
Yeah, and you know, I think a lot of people think that
they're waiting for someoneelse to give them the tool.
You have the tool, you justhave to figure it out.

Frank (01:03:11):
That's all it is and there's a certain amount of like
effort you have to put into itto set up the tool.

Lauren (01:03:16):
Yeah, I love that you, like, created your own system.

Erin (01:03:18):
That's a fun system that works for you, it's so fun and
the songs cycle in and out and Idon't just put songs on there
that move me in a positive way.
If I hear a song that makes meprofoundly sad or makes me feel
some profound emotion, I alwaysput it on there.
Because you can't just bebiased against anything bad.
You're going to have days thataren't great, but for me this is

(01:03:41):
kind of giving me insight.
Okay, this is, you're going tohave a day that's maybe not
feeling so great, but it's goingto end up on a good note.
This is the last song that camethrough.

Frank (01:03:47):
Try to, you know, push through it, it's going to be all
right, you know um, this isfunny to me because you're
essentially using your playlistLike someone would use tarot
cards, where it's like just yes,absolutely, and there's so many
different ways you can do that.

Erin (01:04:05):
You know so many different ways.
My favorite thing that everhappened with that playlist,
though, is I was having one ofthose days where it was just
kind of crappy day and I was inthe shower and I get out of the
shower, and the second I steppedout of the shower.
That song step into my powercame on, and the first line is I
stepped out of the shower and Iwas like okay, okay, I hear you
, I hear you, I hear you, youknow yeah that's so cool, oh man

(01:04:27):
so this makes sense because youcall yourself an energy
alchemist and like that's justlike what you're doing all the
time.

Lauren (01:04:36):
You're like kind of taking different things and yeah
, and making meaning and likeshifting your energy.

Erin (01:04:45):
Yeah, right, so that term comes from the old world,
meaning of changing lead intogold right, Taking something
dense and perceived as worthlessand turning it into something
valuable.
The way I work is when I have aprivate session with someone, I
rarely use my tarot card.
It is all about conversation,because as a channel I work best
when we talk.
As you've seen through thiswhole thing, I just open up and

(01:05:08):
let whatever needs to come outcome out, and it usually takes
us in the direction we need togo.
I think people sometimes cometo me and they want me to give
them the answer to the question.
But the problem is is thatdoesn't give you any empowerment
.
I want you to understand thatyou can figure out the answer to
the question.
You just need the tools to doit.
And you know there's nothing.

(01:05:29):
My most favorite feeling in thewhole world is sitting with
someone and talking them throughsomething and seeing the look
on their face when they havethat moment of recognition.
Oh, I get it.
That's something I'm constantlychasing.
That's what makes me happy.
That's why I'm doing this,because I love that moment of
empowerment.
But I'm never going to just giveyou the answer, because there's
no value to be gained from thatYou've got to see your own

(01:05:52):
strength.
So I think people sometimescome in and they want me to just
read cards.
It'll take me literally fiveminutes to read cards for you.
But if you want to have aconversation and want to get
into something deeper and figureout why you're doing the things
you are, that's kind of wherethe energy transformation comes
in and the modulation of yourfrequency and all that sort of
stuff there's such a biggerdifference to doing that,

(01:06:12):
because the people that arewanting like a reading and just
tell me, tell me how I feel, ortell me what's going on in my
life they're to just kind ofkeep seeking more of that.
Well okay, got it Like part ofthe problem, right, until they
find someone who tells them whatthey want to hear.
Right, yeah, right.

Frank (01:06:37):
And but that's just once again like, like, uh, uh, uh,
sacrificing your own sovereigntyfor someone else's system, and
like a different set of rulesthat you want to live with and
right, and like a different setof rules that you want to live
within, right, right.
Would you argue that, likeeveryone is doing that, everyone
is doing their own form ofdivination and alchemy.
Like all the time, they justdon't know what they're doing.

Erin (01:06:53):
Naturally, yes and no, I think for most people.
Um, when it comes to alchemy,when there is the feeling of
discomfort, they stop becauseyou have to push through the
discomfort to get to the otherside, right?
And for most people, people whoare unawakened I hate to
generalize, but for most peoplewho are not super self-aware

(01:07:15):
when they come up against achallenge, when the challenge
comes to the point of makingthem personally uncomfortable,
they back away from the changerequired to push through that
right.
People who are awakened tend tobe more willing to push through
the challenge because we havelearned things like the closer
to a manifestation you get, thebigger the shadow attached to it

(01:07:36):
is.
You have to push through thatshadow before you can embody the
thing you want, and that has todo with frequency.
If you're holding on to abelief that you can't ride a
bike, you're never going to beable to ride that bike until you
tell yourself you can do it,and that's a matching of
frequency.

Frank (01:07:52):
By the way, I really love the way you use Shazam, because
I use Shazam to track songs andgroups that I hate.
If you look at my Shazam, I'llbe at a restaurant and be like
this song sucks and I'll shazamit.
I'm like oh man, now I know whoto blame.

Erin (01:08:09):
You know, I just I started .
Music has always, always movedme and something interesting
both of my children I think it'scalled synesthesia when they
listen to music they're bothmusicians.
And when they listen to musicthey see colors.
And they did not know thatwasn't normal.
They thought everybody saw that.
It's kind of like someone who'scolorblind.
Until you tell them they'recolorblind, they don't know.

(01:08:29):
The world doesn't look likethat.
I was sitting next to mydaughter at an orchestra concert
.
She plays um violin and we'relistening to this orchestra and
she's taught.
She made some offhand remarkabout how beautiful it was and
I'm like, yeah, it is reallybeautiful, because I beautiful
she goes, I love that color andI'm like what she's like.

Frank (01:08:44):
I love that color.

Erin (01:08:45):
What are you talking about ?
And then she started talkingabout it and it helped me
realize that we all access theseenergies, these frequencies, in
so many different ways.
Yeah, it's just an individualthing.
For her, she sees color.
For me, I get chills andgoosebumps in my body and all
this stuff.
But we're both being affectedby the same piece of music, just
translating it differently.

Frank (01:09:08):
We don't have time for all this, but when we talk
you're opening.

Lauren (01:09:13):
Are you opening a new?

Frank (01:09:14):
I'm trying not to, but I just want to cause.
I want to make sure she has asecond.
I know I want to make sure shehas a second to chill before a
client, but you talked aboutthat vision that you had where
you saw the earth split inmitosis, like a mitosis kind of
thing.
Help me square this Like.
What does this mean when wetalk about like the earth or
consciousness splitting orsomething?

(01:09:35):
Is that, what is that how itcomes about in 3D?
Someone's not going to want totalk to you, or is there some
kind of big thing thatsupposedly is going to occur?

Erin (01:09:44):
Well, I don't know.
The short answer is I don'tknow, but my intuition is no.
It's not a big event.
5d is not somewhere you canlive.
People need to remember thatyou are a multi-dimensional
being.
You live on all levels all thetime.
You have a 3D body, you have a4D mind and you have access to
the 5D possibility.
You are constantly moving inand out of this.
So the idea of moving to ahigher timeline, that's a

(01:10:06):
misnomer.
You're not moving to 5D, you'removing to a higher timeline for
you, right, and what that means?
What's happening right now iswe're seeing a divide in the
collective between people whoare awakened and people who are
not, and for a long time, thosetwo timelines have very much
mirrored each other.
But we have reached a pointwhere they're starting to do
this and it looks like on oneside and it's not.

(01:10:28):
People ask me all the time isit about being a Republican?
Is it about being a Democrat?
It has nothing to do with it.
Only to the fact where on oneside, on the unawakened side,
you will see people who are verymired down in their own
perspective.
I am a Democrat standing overhere, refusing to see your side.
I'm a Republican standing overhere to see your side.
Neither one is right, but therefusal to see or to accept that

(01:10:51):
someone else's opinion outsideof yours is valuable is part of
the problem.
On the awakened collective, youhave someone who says I'm a
Democrat, this is what I believe.
What do you believe?
You have someone who says I'm aRepublican, this is what I
believe.
How can we work together?
That's what that feels like,right.
So what's happening is you'regetting people starting to

(01:11:11):
conglomerate onto either side,so you will have some friends
who suddenly don't come aroundso much anymore.
You don't hear from them, notbecause you cut them out or they
move.
They just aren't there so muchanymore and it's because your
frequency is no longer harmonic.
They're sort of dissonantagainst you.
So they naturally, like dishsoap and dirty water, will
naturally move away from you.

(01:11:32):
But you will also attract newpeople to you, people who are
curious and more aligned withwhat you're doing.
And this is what it's meant bythe dividing of the timeline.
It's not necessarily there'sgoing to be a brand new earth
that we're all teleported to,which would be nice, but that's
not going to happen.
The idea that you are findingyourself more and more grouped,

(01:11:52):
with people more in alignmentwith you.
So for a lot of people who areawakening, there's a big feeling
of a pull to physically move.
I feel it.
A lot of people I know feel it.
I just don't feel comfortablewhere I am anymore.
I have this feeling of wantingto be more near the coast or
more near wherever.

Frank (01:12:09):
We're literally in four months.
We're moving to the coast ofSan Diego from.
Oh my God, I'm so jealous.

Erin (01:12:15):
That's where I want to go, so that's what I'm saying.
But a lot of people are feelingthat and Bashar says this and I
100% agree with him that what'sgoing to happen it's not that
these other people are going todisappear, it's they won't
affect you as much becauseyou're going to be living on the
coast of San Diego in yourbubble of people who align with
you and choices you make thatare good for you, and those

(01:12:37):
people who are stuck in strugglewill stay where they are.
It doesn't mean that that stuffisn't happening in the real
world, but your attention to itis what brings it into your
timeline.
So, like the bowling shoes, Icompletely forgot about that
until he brought it up and thenit brought it right back into my
timeline and now I'm thinkingabout it and returning it,
pulling it right back here.

(01:12:58):
The same thing with politicsand all the stuff going on.
I don't ever listen to the news.
I will not listen to the news.
It's so crazy, but I still knowenough about what's going on to
keep me updated.
I don't need to know thedetails.
I can do nothing about it.
And the sooner you recognizethat your anxiety is being fed
by a feeling of not being ableto control something you
literally cannot control.

(01:13:19):
It helps to dissipate that alittle bit and you feel yourself
being drawn towards things thatfeel better, you know, careers
that feel better, people thatfeel better, locations that feel
better Right.

Lauren (01:13:30):
Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

Frank (01:13:32):
I'm always trying to, because there's no shortage of
people on like the internet whoare telling us that, like any
day now, the, the aliens, aregoing to come and take half of
us.
It's gonna be crazy you knowwhat, maybe, but I don't think
so, you know yeah, but then I'malways like the way I've
distilled that is like okay,listen, if, if these, like you
know, the galactics and stuffthat people are interacting with

(01:13:53):
, if they are existing on anenergetic level, they're telling
us readings from an energeticlevel and we manifest things
here in a very 3d slow mannerism, it's like congress like
congress is 20, 20 years behindeverything that we need right
we're gonna go with like 30, 40okay we're gonna need to back up
a little bit on that one, yeahit's the same thing like in in
our 3d reality, like we are alittle bit behind of what's

(01:14:16):
happening energetically.
There's a big energetic split,but that's going to manifest
very slowly here right, well,and it comes down to the idea of
frequency.

Erin (01:14:23):
I hate to interrupt you, but the idea of frequency.
Right, things are all in the 5D.
We're moving very fast.
Frequency, all of possibility,is here.
To bring it down intoprobability, you have to bring
it down into 4D, which is time.
So it has to go from this tothis and then, as you process it
through time in your mind, itgoes from this to this.
Because 3D is heavy, it's aheavy environment.
You cannot take all of this.

(01:14:43):
It gets compressed to come downand manifest in the way that
you've made room for it too youknow that makes all the sense.

Frank (01:14:51):
Yeah, as once again, I'm gonna say it.
The listeners have heard me sayit a lot.
Time is a joke, but it's, it'sthe our condition.

Erin (01:14:58):
Yeah here, yeah your mind is where time lives.
Yeah, your mind can travelforward and backwards in time.
That's the only piece of youthat can.
Right, but it's also thedimension in between all
possibility and 3D.
Reality is you have to processit through your mind, which is
where time lives.
The reason we incarnate isbecause in the 5D there's no

(01:15:20):
time.
Nothing ever changes.
If there's no progression oftime, there is no progression
right?
So you incarnate into 3D sothat you can experience the
progression of time andtherefore go through growth.
Otherwise, if you can't producethat movement of time, you
cannot grow.
And because we are quantumlyentangled with our higher self,
like this, everything you learnhere, they learn at exactly the

(01:15:41):
same time.
So that's the purpose of thisphysical incarnation is to learn
and grow.
You're not here to save anybody.
You're not here to save theworld.
You're here to figure yourselfout and, as a side effect of
that, you help other people oh,time is time.

Frank (01:15:57):
Is the the canvas on which we are?

Lauren (01:15:59):
painting that.
That helped.
I'm going to be chewing on thatfor the rest of the day, I
think.

Frank (01:16:08):
Listeners Lauren's brow is furrowed.

Lauren (01:16:13):
Deep in thought right now.

Frank (01:16:15):
I can see the neurons.

Lauren (01:16:16):
Yeah, okay, yeah, that helps me, okay, thank you.

Erin (01:16:24):
That's what I mean, like sometimes you just need an
explanation anchored insomething you understand, so
that you can pull down thebigger understanding yeah,
because my brain wants to gowhen I start having those
existential freak outs of likebut why?

Lauren (01:16:43):
And like Frank's like, calm down, lauren.
It's that kind of thing whereI'm like but why?
Why do we need to come intothese human bodies and like, but
that's such a great explanationfor me.

Erin (01:16:58):
There's no change without progression of time, otherwise
it just exists.
So in order to grow, to learn,to expand, you have to
experience change, which is theelement of time.
Come down through it to a 3Dbody.

Lauren (01:17:11):
Fantastic.
You explained something kind ofsimilar, but you said it in a
very abstract way.

Frank (01:17:17):
Yeah, I'm learning right now that it went over your head.
That's okay.

Lauren (01:17:21):
This is.

Frank (01:17:21):
Erin's job.
She's great at it.

Lauren (01:17:22):
You were like we are a reflection of time or something,
and I was like I don't knowwhat the hell you're saying, so
I'm going to move on Sometimes,laura would be like very
concrete, like a visual yeah.

Frank (01:17:36):
Yeah, that was painted on time.

Lauren (01:17:38):
I'm like what the fuck are you saying?

Frank (01:17:40):
Listen, sometimes I have something really weird and big
to say and I have to say it, butI know I have two sentences.

Lauren (01:17:46):
It's not for me.

Frank (01:17:47):
I have two sentences of tolerance from Lauren and I'm
like I got to figure out, Okay,and I'm like time is a painting
and then I walk away.

Erin (01:17:55):
He's dropping just little bombs of provision right around
him.
Very profound, here you go.

Lauren (01:18:04):
See you later.
Then Aaron comes over and sayssays something, something better
yeah, oh, now that makes sense.
He's like god damn it oh my god.

Frank (01:18:11):
Okay, all right, aaron, tell everybody where to find you
and your services and all thatstuff, because this has been
such a nice conversation followAaron on TikTok because we do.

Lauren (01:18:20):
Oh yeah, I love it.

Frank (01:18:22):
I told you before we started, but I haven't told the
audience.
I literally have been startingmy day with Aaron's TikToks for
the past month at least, and Ihave no plan on stopping.

Erin (01:18:31):
Well, hopefully TikTok is still around.
We don't know what's going tohappen to TikTok.

Frank (01:18:35):
I'll follow you over there, yeah.

Erin (01:18:37):
So I have a website it's just consciouslyaaroncom, and
through that website you canbook a private session with me,
which comes in 30 or 50 minuteincrements.
It's not tarot card readings,it's a conversation, but you can
get a lot done in that time.
It also will link you to myPatreon channel, which is where
I'm building a consciouscommunity.
I host classes, workshops, Iput up lots of articles that I

(01:19:00):
write.
I make posts about connectionsbetween science and spirituality
.
I use Patreon a lot, like mostpeople use Facebook, and my fun
thing that I'm doing right nowis I'm a writer.
I've always been a writer andI'm writing a serial novel and I
just put the first chapter out.
So each month you'll get a newchapter of this novel that's out
.
This was a story that came tome in a dream.

(01:19:21):
This is a dream that I'm justwriting out.

Frank (01:19:24):
That's amazing oh my gosh .

Erin (01:19:25):
This is a dream that I'm just writing out.

Frank (01:19:26):
That's amazing, that's awesome.
Hey, you know what?
That's how the Twilight Sagagot started, so I'm sure yours
is better.

Erin (01:19:32):
So I have my Patreon channel.
You can find it through mywebsite.
On there I have Professor BrownBreaks it Down.
That's a class that meets oncea month where we talk about
metaphysical things.
It's run like a collegeclassroom.
You have reading assigned, youhave discussion posts for it,
you have all kinds of stuff.
Then we have the SoulQuest BookClub.
That is a self-guided lifecoaching program that I wrote

(01:19:54):
myself.
It's a book that I wrote.
It is a self-guided lifecoaching program because I want
everybody to be able to do it,and what the book club is doing
is we're meeting once a month totalk about each chapter as a
group.
How did you feel?
What came up?
What did you work through?
I'm not leading, I'm justfacilitating this.
And then we have a I call it atown hall where once a month, I

(01:20:15):
go live on Patreon, which iskind of like being live on
YouTube, and I'm just going toanswer your questions as much as
I can about whatever's going onin your life.
I'm going to answer yourquestions as much as I can about
whatever's going on in yourlife.
I'm going to sit in my channeland just embrace whatever comes
through.
And there's that, not tomention all the written material
that's on there, so it's kindof like a library.
But you can find that throughmy website, which is consciously
Erincom.

Frank (01:20:36):
Erin, thank you so much, and thank you for making my
mornings better in general.

Erin (01:20:39):
Yeah, bye, guys have a great afternoon, thank you.
Yeah, thanks, bye, guys have agreat afternoon, thank you.

Frank (01:20:46):
Thank you for listening.
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