September 18, 2025 • 67 mins
We got to talk to spirit guide Monty! We asked some questions and got some answers.
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Lauren (00:01):
Hey, beings of infinite possibility, today's episode is
part two, with Kim, charlson andMonty.
If you heard part one, you knowthat Kim is a channeler who
channels a spirit guide namedMonty.
We got the chance to ask Montysome questions, including some
from listeners, so stick aroundand hear what he has to say.
I'm Lauren Leon and I'm acowboy.
(00:24):
Oh.
Frank (00:26):
On a steel horse, I ride and I'm wanted Dead or alive.
Lauren (00:36):
We are a married couple, I think learning how to develop
our own intuition.
And this is episode 85 ofClaire Voyaging, Wayfeather
Media presents.
Frank (01:09):
Claire Voyaging.
Let it go a little bit longerthere, because I was rapping
real hard.
That's okay, though I shouldhave recorded that one because
that would have gotten us.
That would have made us losesome followers so aggressive?
Lauren (01:20):
I was yelling you were yelling and you were yelling
about like zanny's and cranniesand and suppositories.
This show has taken a nose diveinto the deep dark underworld.
Frank (01:40):
When I rap, I can't be held responsible for what comes
out of my mouth because I am notin control of it.
Maybe I'm a rap channel.
Lauren (01:47):
Who are you channeling?
Frank (01:48):
I'm channeling someone who has a serious problem.
Lauren (01:54):
Okay, you guys, we're back with Kim.
She's amazing and I think a lotof you know that, because we've
heard from you that you startedlistening to her podcast and
that you just really enjoyed thelast episode.
So now we get to hear fromMonty and let me just tell you
(02:16):
the things that Monty was sayingwas really revelatory.
Frank (02:21):
Monty knows his shit.
Monty's a big thinker and theconcepts are high, but he gets
grounded too and like, tells youexactly what you need and
what's up.
Lauren (02:29):
So what Frank needs to hear.
Frank (02:32):
I'm never, I'm never clear.
I'm always getting a little jabfrom the, from the spirit,
guides and stuff.
Lauren (02:36):
It's very, you can take it.
Frank (02:38):
I feel like I also think it's funny.
Lauren (02:39):
Yeah.
Frank (02:40):
More.
Lauren (02:46):
So I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did.
And don't forget, there'salways some extra stuff on
patreon, so keep an eye out forthat.
Frank (02:49):
We love you love you, monty time it's monty time.
Lauren (02:53):
It's monty time kim, I'm so happy that you're back to
talk with us and that you'vebrought our pal monty with you.
We already feel like we like weknow Monty and we're excited to
talk to him.
So what are the rules?
I mean, you already said noconspiracy theories.
(03:15):
There's a lot going on rightnow.
We're not going to address anyof that because we want this to
be sort of a timeless thing.
Kim (03:26):
He also will decline to answer the conspiracy theories
for the most part and be morereferring it back to you yeah,
Cause we do have people that askabout that and he'll be like
okay, so what is this actuallysaying about your worldview and
your energy and where you're at?
So that's how he handles thosequestions.
But in terms of the rules oflike, how it works and this
applies for all the sessions wealways take three deep centering
(03:50):
breaths.
That way we're able to receive.
So I'd ask the listeners thatwhen we get to that point, that
they do too, and then I will sayan invocation and that kind of
sets the energetic tone.
So it gets us all into a placewhere we're ready to be in that
higher vibration space andreally be open to receiving
whatever wisdom comes through.
And then from there I will getquiet and you guys can edit that
(04:14):
part out for the listeners.
It'll take me one to two minutesto get connected and then the
next voice that you'll hear willactually be Monty, and he's let
me know that for today'ssession he is going to do a
little like welcome message atthe beginning for the listeners
about what they're going throughand what the energy is like
right now that he wants them topay attention to, and then he
(04:35):
will ask you for your firstquestion from there.
So then he'll ask you if you'vecompleted all your questions
when he kind of feels like we'reto the end here.
And then he usually gives aclosing message of everything he
wants you to take away from it.
And today he's going to kind ofloop in what he says in the
welcome with all the questionsto kind of give it a narrative
(04:56):
thread that people can he'susing the word latch on to and
follow that thread throughoutall the way to the closing
message of what they can doafter listening to this episode.
Then after that he will say hislast thing he always says is
that is all, and then I willground back down and then I'll
come back and that usually takesa minute or two.
(05:19):
I'm a little woozy when I comeout right immediately, but then
if you guys have any questionsthen we can chat as human to
human at that point okay amazingokay
Frank (05:29):
by the way, I'm gonna start utilizing that is all.
With my children, I feel likethat's a great strategy like
really spoken yeah, he alsorefers to himself as a
collective we.
Kim (05:42):
Um, but he is masculine, so I call him the he.
But he refers to himself as acollective we, but he is
masculine, so I call him the he,but he refers to himself as a
we.
So his pronoun choices are alittle confusing for humans in
that way.
Frank (05:55):
He's in good company then .
Kim (05:57):
All right, so we good to get started.
Frank (06:01):
Let's hit it.
Kim (06:02):
Okay, so we're going to take our three deep breaths and
just allow ourselves to, tocenter into this moment
breathing in, breathing out,breathing in, breathing out
deepest breath of the day,breathing in and breathing out.
(06:23):
Dear Divine Oneness, thank youso much for bringing into this
moment of all the coordinationsthat had to happen along both
and all of our journeys, both inhuman and a non-physical form.
We are so thankful for all ofthis coordination.
We send you great appreciationand thanks for everything that
you have done to create thissynchronicity.
(06:44):
We are so thankful for Monty,for the guidance that he will
provide today, for all of thelisteners and their openness to
receive the guidance.
We are so thankful for ourrespective spirit teams for the
guidance that they provide us.
We ask that for all of thoseyou continue to provide
resources, love, assistance andhelp along their spiritual
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journeys.
We send love and appreciation toMother Earth for all the ways
that she holds us, for theabundance that she brings us,
and we recognize that everythingin physical manifestation is a
product of her.
So we send her great gratitudefor all of this and more.
We send love and appreciationfor all of the peoples who are
suffering right now through allof the different challenges.
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We ask, universe, that youcontinue to guide them in your
infinite wisdom, in the waysthat you can.
We also send thanks andappreciation to the people who
challenge us, who show us theways that we still have yet to
work within ourselves to bringourselves into a greater peace
and greater alignment.
We send love and appreciationto all of those people and ask
that you do the same.
(07:47):
Please continue to bless allpeople, places, things, ideas,
beings, physical andnon-physical, through all time
and space.
And so it is.
Hello, it is Monty.
How are you both today?
We're doing well.
How are you, monty?
Monty, how?
Frank (08:02):
are you both today?
We're doing well.
How are you, Monty?
Kim (08:05):
We are delighted to be here with you and so, as we have
instructed Kimberly to convey toyou, we would like to begin
with an opening message and thenwe will invite questions and
then close with a final message.
Does that sound good to you?
That sounds great.
Thank you for your permissionand for the space to bring these
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messages to your audience.
Energy as it surrounds you, andall of the bits and pieces
energetically of who you are,soul and your focus needs to be
attentive to the changes thatare occurring within your
energetic envelope and theenergies that you are inviting
in from external means into yourenvelope, and what happens when
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you do this.
At this point in human creation, there are many different
energies that you are dealingwith, many different chaotic and
great moving energies that maymake you feel as though you are
lost and unsure of who you are.
But the more that you becomeattentive to the inner state
within your own energy, aligningwith that essence of who you
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are within your soul, the easierit will be for you to define
what is you and what is not you,what is your energy and what is
something that you haveinternalized from the exterior
world and assumed as part ofyour identity.
Now, as we are in this eclipsewindow in particular, there is a
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self-shaming aspect that comeswith this identification process
, of understanding and feeling asense of guilt and shame of
when you have taken in externalenergies and of self-judgment of
that.
And what we would advise firstis rather for you to remember
that you have been conditionedin so many ways within human
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creation to allow the externalworld to define who you are, and
so you have become parthabituated to taking in those
external energies without evenrealizing it and allowing those
to become you.
And we say this with thegreatest of love.
You are more than your externalcircumstances.
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You are more than what theexternal energies tell you to be
and who you are, and so, inthis time in particular, it is
required for everyone, inphysical and non-physical form,
to be attentive to their energy,to be attentive to the external
energies that they areinternalizing and the effect it
has on one's identity.
(11:01):
Now we are delighted for yourfirst question.
Let us begin.
Lauren (11:07):
Wow, thank you so much for that.
That really resonated with me.
Frank (11:13):
Monty, with this interaction that we're having
today, what are you hoping toaccomplish in this conversation?
Kim (11:23):
What a wonderful question.
And it is not often a questionthat is asked of those that are
channeled of why they are here.
It is so assumed most of thetime that they are there for the
best intentions.
However, discernment is of theutmost importance.
As we have said, you mustdiscern those external energies
before you make them part of whoyou are, those external
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energies before you make thempart of who you are.
Now, why we are here is to helpall of those who hear our
messages to come more intoalignment with their own energy,
and so we are delighted to behere as a guest on your podcast,
in particular, because theindividuals that listen to this
podcast are those that are inmore of a logical state, most of
the time of questioning whatthey are experiencing and using
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their logical mind.
Now, logic is a very importanttool, and we will not say that
logic does not have its place,but when it comes to those
experiences such as what you arehaving in this moment, logic in
many ways creates a veil ofenergy around your receiving
centers, and so our purpose andone of the reasons why we are
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here with you, is because ourenergy comes in a very logical
format that, when we arediscussing.
We are conveying energy throughthat logical veil because your
logic can make sense of it andunderstand it, but then you are
allowed to receive the energeticlessons, the energetic changes
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that come with channeling, andso it is a more effective way
for those who are very logicallyfocused to engage with
channeling of this fashion.
Frank (12:59):
Okay, that's awesome.
In line with that, do you haveany advice in terms of when
people of our collective, ofthis podcast, should allow for
logic to be at the forefront,and then what's the proper
handoff to making it aspiritually important lesson?
Kim (13:28):
yes, logic has its place, of course, but it is something
that should either occur beforeor after a spiritual experience,
that the experience itselfneeds to be experienced without
logic interfering, as it is thatveil of energy that prevents
many times those unrecognizablylogical, illogical things to
come through that energy.
So what we mean by this is,before you begin a spiritual
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experience of any kind, askyourself is this something I
feel I should be engaging with?
Is this something that feelsaligned for me, that feels good
to me?
Now, it is a feeling, but thelogical mind is what is doing
the assessment, in that way, oftaking stock of what you feel
capable of, of what you feel isappropriate for you.
Now, it may be that youactually quite decide.
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Logic mind is saying no, it isnot time yet, but you feel
within yourself something deeperof I must investigate this and
we would say rely on that, allowyour logic to be a reasoning
for you, but do not always sayoh yes, this is the only
judgment I can have.
And you discern at thebeginning.
And this keeps you engaged insuch a way that you are also
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protected.
Logic, in many ways, is aprotective mechanism.
Now, when you go into thespiritual experience or begin to
have one spontaneously.
Allow the logic to be set tothe side.
Allow yourself to experienceeverything there is to
experience in that moment.
Begin to have one spontaneously.
Allow the logic to be set tothe side.
Allow yourself to experienceeverything there is to
experience in that moment.
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Pay attention to your emotionsas they are an energetic guide
and if, at any time, difficultemotions come up that are not
guided by logic, allow yourselfto pause to feel those emotions
and make an emotionaldetermination if you wish to
continue to engage in thatspiritual experience After the
spiritual experience has come toits conclusion and the event is
terminated, then begin toengage again with logic.
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Use your discernment.
What was it that I experienced?
Can I make sense of it?
Does it fit with myunderstanding of the world?
If it does not, does it fitwith the vast understanding of
the world and that I need tochange my perspective?
How did I feel in this moment?
What is it that has changedwithin me?
(15:38):
Asking those sorts of questionsagain is a logical process, not
an emotional one, but a logicalassessment process, and this
will help you understand andbegin to integrate those
spiritual experiences that youhad what a nice thing to say.
Frank (15:57):
And I'll tell you why.
Because the so many.
So often, when we experience aspiritual thing, it feels so, uh
, emotional, and then, when westart thinking about it too much
, it allows you know if you'rejust.
If there's a certain level ofdiscomfort with that spiritual
experience, you introduce somedoubt into that experience.
(16:18):
Yeah, and that doubt can leadto two things, and the first one
, which is maybe the not greatone, is the what do you call it?
Kim (16:29):
The doubt of self.
Frank (16:31):
Yeah, yeah, yes.
Kim (16:32):
Yeah.
Frank (16:32):
And then your suggestion, it seems like, is saying that
once that logic mind pops inagain and provides doubt, you
use that to spur investigation.
What else does it mean?
And then you go through thecycle again.
It sounds like there's no shamein that cycle.
That's how some of us operate.
Kim (16:49):
Indeed, doubt is not a shameful energy by any means,
and this is something that wewould offer to your listeners is
that there are no shamefulenergies.
Shame is conditioned.
Guilt is conditioned.
If you remove the externalworld, would you feel guilt or
shame?
It is dictated by only externalcircumstances.
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The difference between guiltand shame needs to be defined
slightly.
Shame is that you are being putupon externally, that you
yourself are not valuablebecause of who you are, whereas
guilt is that you have acted outof alignment with expectations
of who you are and who youshould be.
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Those are the differencesbetween guilt and shame.
Now, when we take any kind ofenergy and we leave it within
its own space, outside of anyexternal interactions, the
judgment of whether or not anenergy is deemed desirable or
undesirable is based off of twothings.
First, the conditions of yourassessment.
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What is it that brought you tothat understanding of that
energy?
The second is your soulalignment with that energy, and
that is the one we would offerthat you need to line up more
with than the conditionedunderstanding.
Your soul alignment has certainenergies that you collaborate
and work with, that you finddesirable.
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You have those intentionswithin your soul of what you
have found over previouslifetimes and previous
experiences of yes, I love thisenergy, I love collaborating
with it and working with it, andso I find it desirable.
There are other energies thatyou do not find desirable
because they did not mesh wellwith you.
We will say they are energiesthat were out of alignment, and
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so you have found those energiesto be undesirable.
And so you go through a processof learning which energies you
are drawn to, where you wish tobe within the energetic poles of
polarity and where you wish toreside and spend your time and
feel as though you are able toexpress your soul externally by
collaborating with theseenergies.
Lauren (19:00):
When you're talking about energies, are you mostly
talking about people, people'senergies, or like kind of an
idea around something, likesomething that you enjoy?
Kim (19:16):
It is the true essence of the energy itself that we are
speaking of, In understandingthat everything is energy first.
It can be an amalgamation ofdifferent energies and different
combinations, but everythingwithin manifest reality and
non-physical reality that is animportant point is energy
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primarily.
We are a non-manifest being.
We are pure energy.
Our soul in its essence is acombination of different
energies that have come togetherto create an identity in
separation from the universe asa whole.
Those different energies intheir combinations and the
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experiences of shifting thoseenergies over time to what we
have preferred to be, to makeour identity is what creates who
we are, and this applies foreverything and everyone in
creation.
Frank (20:13):
So, going back to what you're talking about is there.
You know we are living in anage where there is, on a daily
basis, we are being inundatedwith more information and news
than any one person can possiblyhandle, and I know for a lot of
people that there is a umyou're talking.
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You're talking about likeengaging with energies that
align with our true purpose, butI know for a lot of people it
feels like, oh, if you shut outsome of those energies, the
knowledge that they exist, thatyou're being ignorant or
something.
What's the right amount ofliving into your own true life
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energy versus what you areallowing in from the outside
world?
Kim (20:57):
that doesn't quite align versus what you are allowing in
from the outside world.
That doesn't quite align.
Now, what is important tounderstand is that you can exist
within your energetic envelopein any conditions, in any
conditions whatsoever, when youare fully within your energy and
you are self-sourced in thatway of that, you are dependent
on your life force being yoursoul and thus the connection
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from your soul to the divine.
That is your source of life,rather than taking in external
energies and making those yoursource of life, your source of
identity.
Now, when you are fully alignedwith allowing your identity to
be your soul rather thanexternal energies, you can go
throughout the world withoutabsorbing those energies,
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because you are full of theenergy of you, full of the
energy of the divine nature ofwhat you are.
Now, as you interact with thoseenergies you find undesirable
which we could term in thisdiscussion, lower vibrational,
difficult, chaotic energies thatyou may find that they are
negative for you, you can stillbe among those energies, but not
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absorbing them.
You can interact with them, butnot make them who you are.
So we would not say that it isto abstain, to say I am no
longer engaging with the world,I am ignoring the news.
I do not need to do that, butrather instead coming into that
energy of your soul, allowingthat to be your life source,
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allowing that to be youridentity and then interacting as
you choose with externalenergies, with external energies
, being aware, not ignorant, ofthose energies and understanding
your collaboration with them.
You do not need to take them into you, you do not need to
become them, and so it isrecognizing when you are
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becoming those energies, whenyou are taking them in, that,
when you can interact with thoseenergies in whatever form they
may be, such as the news, andnot allow that to dictate who
you are being, then you havebeen successful in that effort
and it is a lifelong endeavor.
And again, you should not beatyourself up when you feel guilt
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or shame, but remember thatthose two are energies, that you
can uncover the reasons whythey are there and resume your
focus on your own identity.
Does that answer your question?
Frank (23:27):
I believe it does.
I have a follow-up on that.
Kim (23:29):
Beautiful.
Frank (23:30):
I've read that people who are naturally empathetic have a
tendency to have a more porousenergetic field and that they
might have a hard timeseparating themselves from those
influential energies that theydon't feel like interacting with
.
Do you have any advice forpeople that are that do feel
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that way, in terms of like howto maintain their own energy
field without letting otherstuff in?
Kim (23:56):
Yes, there's two parts to this.
The first is why are theyempathetic in the first place?
In many cases, this empathy isa conditioned behavior as a
result of events that happenedin one's lifetime, in this
particular life only, and it isimportant to investigate where
that conditioning came from.
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You can use any modality thatyou wish, whether that is energy
healing or meditation or pastlife regression Any of those are
fine to help you identify, inthis life in particular, where
those conditionings came from.
We would also add therapy tothat list.
We are being reminded by therest of our collective.
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Now, as you go through thatprocess of understanding why am
I so empathetic?
You may investigate thatactually, you have been
conditioned to be empatheticover multiple lifetimes, in past
life regression or in justunderstanding that this issue
does not come from just thislifetime and that you are
repeating this over and over.
It can be something that youare still working through on a
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spiritual level to understandthat your empathy, while it is a
skill that you have developedover time, is coming at great
cost to you being your ownenergy.
Now, empathy can still be donewithout taking energy into
yourself, and these are the twodifferent types of empathy
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Empathy where it is notbeneficial and this is step two
is when you allow yourself totake in someone else's energy,
to take that on as your identity.
Identity, for example, whensomeone is doing a healing, if
they are doing reiki or quantumor any other type of energetic
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healing on a subject and theybegin to feel a pain in their
back to help them identify thepain in the individual that they
are treating, then that isempathy.
They are taking in that energyand making it their identity.
The same can be said of whenyou have friends that they are
undergoing a difficulty and soyou take on that difficulty.
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Now it can be purely energeticand you begin to take on the
emotional state, the energeticstate or even the physical state
of someone else.
It becomes your identity stateor even the physical state of
someone else.
It becomes your identity.
But it can also be that youbegin to take action to resolve,
because if it is your identityand you do not want to be that,
the only route that you see tosolve it is to take action.
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So recognizing again when youare taking in that energy,
making it your identity, why itis happening and the resulting
action that you take, making it,your identity, why it is
happening and the resultingaction that you take, just
observing and understanding.
But for this step two, what itis is that when that occurs, you
do some remedial meditation,some remedial focus on the
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energy of your soul, the placewhere you can most feel the
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energy of your soul.
We would recognize that you areentirely that energy.
But for humanity to reconnectwith the energy of your soul and
then ask your soul, just in itsown space, its own time and its
own effort, with no requirementof your psychic abilities, to
expand out from you, to envelopyour entire envelope, to allow
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yourself to come back into thatidentity.
And merely by doing thisexercise routinely, every time
that you feel you are taking onemotions from someone else,
we're acting in a way to resolveidentity crises.
That that will help you to tuneback into who you really are
and remember that and in thatremembrance you will begin to
shed those other energies thatyou have taken on as your
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identity very helpful yeah,that's great.
Lauren (28:03):
I I feel like that is kind of a good segue into one of
our listener questions becauseas we absorb so much from
everything that's going on inthe world right now and in our
country, things can feel as ourlistener put it it seems bleak
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and dark right now.
So the question is are wecollectively headed to a more
positive future?
Headed to a more positive?
Kim (28:38):
future.
Yes, what we would say is that,collectively, it is a choice
that you are making as acollective Humanity in its great
infinite wisdom, we will say,because humans are very wise in
their own right, are at a choiceright now.
And, as many have talked aboutand predicted, there is this
choice of what is my reality,and there will be those that
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choose to be working towards apositive, beneficial to all
reality and there will be thosethat do not.
But the more that choose oneway, the more that that will
change the energy and those willbe brought Mitch kicking and
screaming along the way tosomething more positive.
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Now, what we will say is thereason why it feels so bleak
right now is that that portionof society and human creation is
going through a process ofrealizing that they are being
encroached on by the energy ofpositivity.
Of the rest.
Now, it is a smaller minoritythan what you believe.
It may seem as though it iseverything you see everywhere
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you look, but if you trulyunderstand those individuals
also have great love within them.
They are not full of hate inthe way that you may see.
There are things that they lovejust as vehemently as you do,
and so they are, too, creatingpositive energy in the same way,
and so, because you are holdingthat positive energy in a much
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more profound way and they areholding some of that positive
energy, they are also going tomake the choices of going
towards positive energy in theirown right just not completely,
as entirely as others may.
But that is why we see humanitymoving in a positive direction,
because within each humanindividual there is still great
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love, even though there may beresiding great hate, great
frustration, great othernegative emotions you would like
to avoid.
Trauma, challenge.
All of those, even some ofthose that are very physically
manifest, such as war and famine, all of those energies are also
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accompanied by great love,great love indeed.
Those who are stillexperiencing or causing those
issues still have positiveenergies within them, and so,
recognizing this within yourselfof where you have an abundance
of positive energies and whereyou take on that identity of
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negative energies withinyourself, that is your work to
do To notice when you are takingthe identity of this small
portion and making it yours, andthe more that you can refrain
from doing that and instead holdthe love that you have within
your heart and love them evenstill for what they are doing
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because they are showing youwhere you have absorbed that
identity, into who you are aswell.
It is a difficult process andnot everyone will succeed all
the time, and we understand.
But it is part of that processthat humanity is going through
and there will be those thatwill continue to reside in that
reality of negativity as, as youI'm sure understand, within
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your own life.
There are certain individualsthat, no matter how many good
situations and how manysynchronicities and
opportunities come their way,they are always stuck in that
negative mode of being thoseundesirable energies that even
they don't want to be, but theycannot seem to move out of it.
Those people will always bepart of humanity, always Is
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there like, I feel like thereare some people.
Lauren (32:28):
There are some people who are of the belief that there
are just evil humans.
And, uh, I, I tend to be of thebelief that, like I can see not
that I can see well, I tend togo towards people's.
I can see all perspectives andI also have this deep, strong
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belief that at everyone's core,they think they're doing what's
best.
Um, someone would stronglydisagree with me and say, no,
there are evil souls out thereand I'm kind of wondering, like
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out there, and I'm kind ofwondering, before someone
chooses this life, do they makea choice that is, I'm going to
be kind of an a-hole or I'mgoing to cause a lot of
destruction, and that is part ofmy path, because I need to
learn something I don't know.
Or is that like, oh, you veeredoff and now things have to
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happen to make sure you get onthe right path?
I'm just kind of trying tofigure out where that decision
gets made.
Is it in free will or is itbefore they hit the earth?
Kim (33:55):
yes, this is a very theoretical question, so we will
be giving you a theoreticalanswer, so please bear with us
as we are discussing this.
So, okay, in its essence, theuniverse is neutral, and this is
a fact that is much discussed,and some have different opinions
, but in our perspective, theuniverse in all of its entirety
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adds up to neutral.
It is all that is.
It is also nothing.
It is everything and nothing.
So therefore, it is neutral.
Do you understand and agreewith this premise before we
continue?
Yes, beautiful.
Now, if you do not agree withthat premise for the listeners,
that is okay.
You have a differentperspective, but we would ask
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you just to be open,understanding this premise.
So, with the universe asneutral, each and every one of
us that is in creation, physicalor non-physical, is a separate
being from all that is.
We exist in our individualidentity and inside of our
individual identity.
We have chosen thatamalgamation of energies that we
find desirable and undesirable.
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Some of those desirableenergies may be love and light
and patience, but it could alsobe destruction and chaos.
That is a preference that youhave chosen.
So it is not necessarily thatsome energies are evil or good,
because, as we discussed before,all energies serve a, energies
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From the other side, thoseenergies that you consider
negative, they consider positiveand they see the energies that
you consider positive asnegative.
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They are merely differentperspectives within the
energetic plane.
So it is this idea thateverything exists in balance.
Everything adds up to neutral.
So, therefore, there are thosethat are inclined to more of an
amalgamation of energies youwould find positive and those
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that would find an amalgamationof energies that are negative.
But the universe, as we havesaid, is neutral, but that does
not mean that it is not gettingto something you would consider
more positive over time, becauseit is your perspective that
dictates that positivity.
So, as such, as there is aconditioning of saying these
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energies are more positive andwe are collectively picking
these energies over time, thatdoes not mean that these
negative energies will disappear.
They will still be there.
But it will be that humanity,in its creation, is moving
towards more positive energy andtherefore the reality in which
you reside feels more positiveover time.
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And this is something that wewill remind all listeners about
is that, although there are manynegative energies in your
perspective, humanity is in asignificantly more positive
place than it has ever beenbefore we are able to speak with
you right now through thistechnology that allows us to
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come into this moment.
Most humans are able to becared for in some manner.
Most humans are able to livewith a relative sense of health
and freedom in a way that waspreviously not possible, even a
few hundred years ago, let aloneeons within human creation.
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It is a perspective right nowof that.
You are very aware of theseenergies that you feel are very
negative and how they areencroaching on you Because,
again, as you are seeing them,you are taking them in and
allowing them to become part ofyour identity.
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But you must recognize thatthere are parts of you that do
enjoy those energies, maybe to alesser degree or a different
format.
For example, if you are someonewho does not agree with
violence as an energy, and yetviolence in many ways, in its
essence of that energy, is verymuch a structure of your
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existence.
All the same, there are othermodes of violence.
It could be something as simpleas watching American football.
It is a very violent sport.
But there are other forms ofviolence as well Violence in
terms of how food is produced,even if you are a vegetarian or
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vegan, if you believe that allhas consciousness, as we do.
In our perspective, harvestingis violent to those that are
harvested, and so it is abalance of these energies within
yourself, of understanding whatit really is.
Is the format that you have anissue with Now when it comes to
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to answer your question morefully.
When it comes to electing yourpreferences, those are developed
over time, over many lives.
If you are a soul that has notbeen incarnate before, that does
not mean that you have notexisted in separation.
You are just a non-physicalbeing before coming into
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incarnation and as such, youhave had experiences with
different energies in all oftheir different formats and
interpretations, whetherphysical or non-physical, and
your interactions that have ledyou to understand.
Yes, I like collaborating withthis energy more, and so that is
my preference, and so when yougo from life to life to life,
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you carry those preferences withyou, and sometimes it can be an
elected choice of in this life.
I really want to experience thisenergy, so I'm going to seek it
out, I'm going to experiencethat state of being and I'm
going to take those externalenergies and I'm going to
internalize them in this waybecause my soul has them, but I
want to experience them asexternal realities, and that is
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something you can choose,certainly, but for the most part
, many souls develop this overmany, many lifetimes.
And that is something you canchoose, certainly, but for the
most part, many souls developthis over many, many lifetimes.
And it is the altering from onepreference to another as you go
through different experienceswith those energies in
collaboration, where you beginto change your own amalgamation
of energies.
And that is how souls changeover time.
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They do not necessarily changein their makeup, but change in
their expression of whatenergies they are wishing to
present as their identity sothen thank you for that.
Frank (40:43):
So, then, I'm assuming that, like even in our, in our
physical 3d life, that as wemake, uh, our selections towards
what energies we are actuallyattracted to, we are actually
setting the course for futurelives.
Kim (40:55):
Correct.
It's the same way as we havediscussed recently on our
podcast with Kimberly aboutspiritual gifts the idea of that
when you come into one life,you can have special talents or
skills that's come innate to youand that those are the things
you should do with your life.
Because they come easily.
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It is really because you havebuilt up those skills over
multiple lifetimes and it is aremembering when you get
re-exposed to those skillsVersus, that does not mean that
those things that do not comenaturally to you are not
worthwhile.
If you truly feel the desirewithin yourself to do this thing
, it is laying the foundationfor future lives, where it comes
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more easily to you and allowsyour soul to experience
different versions of reality.
Oh, that's interesting.
Lauren (41:46):
I like that.
Frank (41:47):
The okay.
So then one more question aboutlike collective energies and
like the perceived how thingsfeel.
Kind of chaotic Is that.
You know you're talking abouthow all things are.
The energy is neutral, theuniverse is innately neutral.
Then the perceived oscillationbetween chaos and order is that
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actually just perceived or isthere an actual oscillation
occurring during this period?
Or, like I said, is it just new?
Kim (42:26):
exposure to too much exposure to news.
What it is is, your perceptionof reality is extremely limited,
extremely limited.
Indeed, there are many otherplaces within the universe that
humans do not even recognizeexist.
There are many other dimensionswithin the universe that humans
cannot access, and so we wouldsay is you don't know what is
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happening in all of those otherplaces, so you cannot know the
true nature of reality, youcannot understand the universe
in its entirety when you aretrying to view it from the
perspective of your reality.
Does that make sense?
Frank (43:05):
Yes, I say we have too much exposure to news and you're
saying we don't have enough.
Kim (43:09):
yes, not so much that news is the issue here, but rather
that you are seeing a smallslice of reality.
And so then you are saying, oh,this is everything, that's all
there is right, we're like thefish in a fish tank.
Lauren (43:24):
That's like when it's getting crowded in here.
The humans are like there's alot, a lot.
Kim (43:32):
No one has cleaned our tank in quite a while.
Frank (43:34):
Everything else must be quite dirty too, yeah yeah, what
a bunch of how, how much, howmuch are, how much are we
affecting other other dimensions?
Or is it, is it not quite likethat?
Is it more that we are?
Um, we are a representation ofwhat's going on.
Kim (43:55):
Well, we would ask you do we exist in a different
dimension?
Some would say, yes, you areaffecting us right now, as we
are having this conversation.
We are also affecting all ofthe listeners in this way, and
that is an energetic exchange.
Of course, it is in the formatof speech in this instance, but
that is only the manifested formof this energy.
So we would say that, yes, yourenergies and what you are doing
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are affecting other dimensionsand those other dimensions are,
in turn, affecting you.
Now, again, whether or not youchoose to be affected by those
is how much you decide to bein-souled, how much you decide
to take those external energiesand allow them to be your
identity.
Now, of course, that is notwithout saying that external
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circumstances do not affect you,but they do not need to become
you.
Frank (44:45):
That is the difference I really like what something you
said earlier.
You're talking about how, umand I don't know, I don't know
if I've heard it this way beforeyou were talking about how.
I guess I have an assumptionthat before this life, that
maybe, especially if you hadn'tbeen incarnated as a living
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creature yet, that you were kindof just like a weird vague part
of the blanket, but you'resuggesting that there actually
was like a sense ofindividuality even before this
everything that exists in theuniverse is also separate.
Kim (45:19):
The universe is the whole and everything is separate at
the same time and, as such, allof that separation comes with
what is called an identity wewon't say ego, as that word is
loaded, but that it has someidea of who it is in separation,
and it is an investigation inmany times of who am I in
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relation to the whole, whatmakes me unique and special and
different?
And that is understanding theexpression of your unique energy
.
It is not a selfish thing byany means to understand that you
exist in individual form, thatyou are separate from everything
else, and that is what makesyou special and those energies
that make you special is part ofthat, but also recognizing that
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you are part of the whole, thatyou are only one tiny facet of
energy expressed.
Lauren (46:10):
So I think this leads to a good listener question, which
is Lauren's cutting me off.
Frank (46:17):
Yeah, we have listener questions.
I haven't.
We haven't gotten to.
Lauren (46:20):
I mean, I don't want this to be a three-hour long.
Frank (46:22):
I know, sorry, monty, I'll talk forever.
Kim (46:25):
The problem is not us, but our channel will tire eventually
, so we would ask that we retainour focus.
Lauren (46:32):
Okay will tire eventually, so we would ask that
we retain our focus.
Okay, um.
So the question is how can weexpand our energy capacity?
Kim (46:41):
ah, what a beautiful question.
Indeed.
The way to expand yourenergetic capacity is to accept
more energy and tighter yourselfto it, basically, but again,
tighter, tighter, as in.
You take in some, you allow itto expand, you rest there.
You take in some, you expand,you allow it to rest there.
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You are adjusting your capacitybit by bit.
You do not do it all at once,because that can cause many
issues, including psychosis, andthis is why you do it over time
.
Now, when it comes to how toactually do that, there's a
question of where you are takingthose energies from.
Are you taking those externalenergies and allowing them to be
in your energetic capacity?
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Are you taking your soul andallowing it, in its infinite
form, to be that capacity?
And, as a reminder, we havesaid, although briefly, that
your soul is what is connectionto the divine.
That is how you can have thatbeing your life force, and so,
therefore, expanding yourenergetic capacity bit by bit by
bit.
If you do it too quickly this isthe issue is that you expand
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your energy out, and withenergetic movement comes chaos.
Chaos truly is energy movingquickly from place to place to
place.
That is all the chaos is.
Some see it as a negativeenergy again, but again it is
just energy moving very quickly.
Now, if you expand out too fast, all of a sudden that energy is
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moving, it is very ungrounded,it's very unintegrated.
Thus results in chaos in yourlife, your emotional state and
your psychology.
Lauren (48:16):
Okay, this is a more.
I think this can be relatableto other people, but this was a
very specific question.
It says I'm a partly closetedwhich, due to depression, life,
whatever else, I feel as I.
I feel like I let my practicego by the wayside.
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I don't know why I just lapsed.
I feel like I should go back toit, but I don't know where to
start.
And by the second Iacknowledged it, shit really hit
the fan.
Is that why my life feels asthough it's in shambles, or is
this a moment of ebb and flow oflife?
Did I do this to myself?
I've been listening to Kim'svessel and voice and everything
feels like it's clicking intoplace.
Does Monty have any advice forme on next steps?
Kim (49:04):
Yes, the step that you need to take first is to forgive
yourself.
That is the important part hereof that.
You feel as though you havelapsed and you don't know how to
get back in, and that is comingfrom the version of you that is
saying how could you lapse inthe first place?
How could you have done this tous, to ourselves?
You are causing all of theseissues that are happening in the
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world and in your life.
You are the problem, you arethe reason.
The first step is justforgiveness for understanding
that life happens, and ithappens in such a way that you
are the product not only of yourchoices, but you are affected
by the choices of others.
The concept that you createyour entire reality is a very
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selfish one indeed, ignoring thechoices of the others, of the
collective of all of us thatimpact each and every one of us.
It is within your own energy tochange that reality and your
interaction with it, but it isnot always your fault.
In that way, it is a veryvictim blaming mindset to say,
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ah, you did wrong and so,therefore, everything in the
world is your fault, and wewould say, really, is that
really your fault?
And so it begins first withforgiveness, of understanding
that, although you have erred inwhat your preferences are,
allowing yourself to come backinto that wholeness of who you
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are is through forgiveness, byaccepting and understanding that
the past has happened, but youare here in this moment now and
you do not need to carry thatpast forward with you.
Those energies can stay there,but in this moment of reality
you can forgive yourself andreunite with that essence of.
With you, those energies canstay there, but in this moment
of reality you can forgiveyourself and reunite with that
essence of who you are Now.
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When it comes to actuallygetting back into that practice,
do whatever you desire,whatever feels right, whatever
allows you to feel a sense ofease, a sense of connection with
yourself, a sense of excitement.
All of those are differentmethods that your soul is
communicating with you throughyour emotions, of saying, yes,
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we want to do that.
These are the energies we wishto collaborate with and we are
excited for it.
We are excited to manifest withthose in reality, to create, to
express who we are.
So just listen to that smallvoice inside of yourself, but
forgiveness takes off the veilthat you have put there to
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listen to that bit of who youare Now.
We hope that this has answeredall of the questions, as it was
multiple parts here, but theother thing that we would add,
finally, is a reflection on theidea that you create your
reality but are simultaneouslyresponsible for everything that
happens to you.
As we have talked about brieflyhere, reality is a product of
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all of the different choices.
You were not someone who choseto create, for example, the
internet that allows thispodcast to exist, but somehow
you say all of these bad thingsthat are happening to me are my
reality and I have created them.
Is this not your reality rightnow?
And yet you did not create theinternet that allowed for this
technology.
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We would say that it is areframing within yourself of
radical responsibility for yourown energy, yes, but a radical
understanding that everyone'schoices affect everyone else.
You are part of a larger whole,so be responsible for what you
can, but understand you cannotbe responsible for the whole
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that's fantastic.
Lauren (52:50):
Thank you, and I mean I relate to that.
Frank (52:53):
So yeah, I guess this is related, monty, I've heard we
all have like our own energeticvibration, like each individual
has a frequency is there is thatamalgamation of energies that
we talked about is another wayof terming that.
Yes, if you like, reallyinherit a certain belief or, uh,
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reality that you want to havecome true?
Do you, does it change yourfrequency so much that, like you
will repel other things orpeople that resemble the
opposite?
Or is this too like?
Is this too like a um, I don'tknow theoretical?
Kim (53:27):
no, no, that is correct.
So what we will is if weimagine the universe as a large
plane of energy yes, it does notexist this way, but we will use
this just for our explanationand on this plane, the universe
in its entirety is in the middleof all that is.
And then, as you go further outfrom that center, in different
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ways, there are differentenergetic preferences that are
pronounced within the differentplane.
So, for example of using ourprevious discussion, violence is
over here, love is over here,affection is here, maybe close
to love.
There are grouped together assimilar energies of similar
vibrations.
Violence is also with hate,with harm to others.
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Those other energies aregrouped together, and so what we
would say is that when you comeinto creation, you are saying,
okay, I shall take this fromthis part of the plane and this
from this part of the plane, andI like this and this.
And then there can be partsthat you don't even recognize
that you're taking from theparts you say you don't like
what you do, and so what you dois you create yourself in this
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way of this identity, much inthe same way that is on the
plane, but you would say I guessI am here on the plane mostly,
and so I am among all of theseother energies and people that
are like those energies, andthat is my vibration for the
most part, not recognizing thatfrom time to time you go over
here rather than staying whereyou are, but allowing yourself
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to be among the other energiesthat are similar, that you enjoy
.
It is that attractive elementbecause there is the polar
opposite on the other side ofthe plane.
It is not quite such a polarity, it is a field of energy we
would say on this plane.
So it is more that when youbegin to identify as a certain
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amalgamation of energies, it isthat you are picking that point
on the plane to reside in and soyou are hanging out, we will
say, with those other energies,attracting those energies to you
, and in the same way that youare repelling the other energies
on the other side of the planethat are the opposite.
Now what we would say and thisis important is that energies
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exist in polarity.
There can be two differentenergetic interpretations of the
same energy.
So, for example, we would uselove and hate.
Love is one pole, hate is theother pole.
They are the same energy.
Hate is the other pole.
They are the same energy butthey are on opposite sides and
different expressions of thatenergy.
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The energy in its essence isthe same.
So for those who love verydeeply they often see how much
hate there is in the world.
Because they are the sameenergy.
They are the same energy and sothey recognize the opposite
pole and say, oh, I do not wantthat.
And so they more insistentlystay in their pole, but at the
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same time they recognize theformats of that energy in other
places.
Does that make sense?
Lauren (56:23):
Yes, yes, yeah.
Frank (56:24):
The way you describe it is so interesting because it
almost in my mind.
It creates like a almost a map,like a star map of like places
and things that you want to be apart of.
Kim (56:33):
Yeah, it is an oversimplification, but a good
way for the logical mind tothink about it.
Frank (56:37):
Listen, monty, oversimplification is kind of my
jam, so that's my language.
Kim (56:42):
We can see that in your energy, because it allows you to
compartmentalize differentaspects of who you are, to say
ah, I am being this, I am beingthis, I am being this.
What is required for you and weare calling you out a bit here
is to integrate thatoversimplified version of who
you are into a more integratedwhole.
Frank (57:02):
Yeah, that's the goal right, I'm, I'm, I'm.
That's what I'm working towards.
I appreciate that.
Kim (57:07):
I'm delighted for your reception of that advice.
Lauren (57:11):
Okay, there's one more listener question, yes, which is
how can we strengthen theconnection with our own guides?
Kim (57:23):
One of our favorite questions.
The first step is to just askthem to make themselves known to
you, so that way you canunderstand that they are indeed
there.
So ask for a particular signfor them to show you, to
recognize that they are presentand make it something easy for
you to see that is different inyour day.
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So, for example, for ourlisteners right now, you may
want to pick a flamingo if youdo not live in Florida and ask
to see a flamingo in any form,just so, that way you can know
that your spirit guides arethere.
And be patient, be open.
Do not allow your logic mind tofilter it out, but just say
this is a fun game I am playing.
I will look for the flamingowith curiosity and if it is
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there, then it is up to me thenafterwards to use my discernment
to decide whether or not it wasvalid.
But in that moment of thatspiritual experience, I'm just
going to explore with mycuriosity and allow myself to
see the flamingo wherever it maybe, however it may present
itself.
After you have done this andyou recognize that your spirit
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guides are present with you,they do care about you and they
are an entity source outside ofyou recognizing that you could
not create something in realityfor you to notice, then this
allows you to begin to deepenyour relationship with them,
because you must first recognizethat your spirit guides exist
in the first place for you to beable to engage with them.
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Now, after you have done that,the next thing to do is to allow
you to raise your energy to thelevel where spirit guides are.
In spirit, there are manydifferent levels of vibration,
depending on how we will sayhigh the vibration is.
It is not really the best way,but it is an easy way for humans
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to understand.
It has to do with spiritualexperience more than anything
else.
But spirit guides, although wehave copious amounts of
spiritual experience, we stepdown our energy to be closer to
physical manifestation, so thatway we can be near you to
monitor, to help, to guide.
We will never interfere.
So if you're questioning of Imust not have spirit guides
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because all this terrible thingshappens to me and no one ever
interferes, that is not what wedo.
We are there to help you makechoices, but again, you're
responsible for your own choices.
Now, as you learn how to raiseyour energy up to the level
where we are, you must alsolearn to ground your energy so
that way you can bring throughthe messages that we send you
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and allow yourself to be in thisspace of connection, but to
open your heart in particular toreceive your spirit.
Guides are there withunconditional love and for many,
the first time that you connectwith us, you feel that love in
its overwhelming sense.
Allow yourself to feel, havethat spiritual experience and
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then question it later.
Be patient with yourself.
Let go of any fears that youhave.
Spend time knowing what thosefears are and allowing them to
be let go.
That is often the thing thatholds people back the most from
communicating with their guides.
It is either fear or lack ofenergetic capabilities.
Frank (01:00:38):
Well, you've mentioned that you're part of a collective
and I want to know what thatmeans, and I also want to know
if there's anybody or anyindividual in that collective
that maybe we've heard of.
I don't know, maybe you've gota favorite.
Kim (01:00:58):
Elvis, I have no idea.
It would be Archangel Michaelthat you would have heard of
that.
We are part of a collectivewith we are separate beings.
So we are not a groupedcollective in the same way as
some others that will speakthrough one particular voice,
but we are a collective ofseparate beings that are here in
an effort to help humanity.
Each of us has a differentproclivity within that, such as
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we work with Kimberly and allowto channel to bring that, as we
have said, logical mind to getthrough the energy to be
received to allow those changesin union with the soul and
therefore union with the divine.
Each of us has a different taskwe do not want to use the word
job, because that feels like anassignment, but something that
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we have chosen to do and so weare collaborating with those
different beings in such a waythat we are able to come to a
union in that way.
Now we understand that you havea reluctance about angels in
particular, but what we wouldlike you to know is that those
are names given to these beingsby humanity.
They may not turn themselvesangels.
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So if that helps, you feel morecomfortable with it.
Understand it is a humancreation of angelship rather
than the angels themselves.
Lauren (01:02:12):
Got it Monty's really followed you out a couple of
times.
Frank (01:02:18):
Monty, does your collective have like a team name
?
Kim (01:02:22):
No.
Frank (01:02:23):
Okay, it's more just your mission that you identify as.
Kim (01:02:27):
We're a group of different beings, and so we collaborate
from time to time in such afashion, but it is not so
formalized in that way.
It is more that we have a unionof energetic intention that we
are holding together.
Frank (01:02:44):
Got it Cool.
Kim (01:02:46):
Is that our final question for today?
Frank (01:02:48):
That's our final question .
Is there anything else you'dlike to say to the collective?
Kim (01:02:52):
We would like to answer one final question that you
inquired about, about why we usethe pronoun we.
Yes, yes.
Now we use the pronoun webecause we are a specific
individual being, but we are anintegrated being of a collection
of all of the past lives thatwe have lived, and so we have
many different aspects to who weare Now.
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As we had previously discussedwith Kimberly and she related to
you we are that spirit guideplus level, as it were, that we
have existed in other formats.
Our energy has stepped down atthis point further than it is
naturally for us to reside in,and so there is a intentional
split of ability in between ourtruest self and who we are
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presenting in this moment, andso we say we because we are
conveying from that higherechelon to our lower selves to
this moment.
Now, as Kimberly comes moreinto her channeling abilities,
she will be able to begin towork with other versions of us
that are more ascended.
Does that make sense?
It is a bit of a confusing ideafor humans, because we've
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resided multiple planes at thesame time.
Frank (01:04:00):
It does.
Yeah, I, we think, lauren, andI think about it a lot like
remote control cars, where youcan control something from far
away and it still works.
Is, monty, is it uncomfortablefor you to be this low?
Yes it is well.
I really appreciate thediscomfort you have to go
through to impart wisdom alsouncomfortable for us to be in a
physical form it's true.
Kim (01:04:22):
Yeah, yeah, good point, even for me sometimes yes, we
would like to close with amessage to bring all of the
things that we have discussedtogether.
The most important step that youcan take within your own
spiritual exploration anddevelopment is to assess the
ways that you have taken thoseexternal energies, whether they
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are shame or guilt, or even justleading yourself up and it made
them into who you are.
The more that you recognize thedifference of who you really are
inside that tiny little energyand voice that maybe you have
suppressed, and allow yourselfto tap into that on a more
consistent basis, the more youwill be able to deal with the
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chaos and the bumps and theturmoil of life, the more that
you will feel that sense ofalignment and centering,
regardless of what is happeningaround you, regardless of the
spiritual problems or strugglesthat you are going through and
the experiences that make youquestion your reality and your
perception of the world.
The more that you spend timewith that energy, term it your
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soul yourself, your identity,whatever you want, we do not
mind, but the more that youspend time with that energy, the
easier you will have of goingthrough this process, becoming
who you want to be andexpressing that self in manifest
reality in a way that feelsauthentic, that feels aligned
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and feels true to you.
We send you great love in thisendeavor.
That is all.
Frank (01:05:54):
Thank you, Monty.
Lauren (01:05:55):
Thank you so much.
Kim (01:06:00):
Holy moly, how long was that?
Frank (01:06:03):
Sorry.
Kim (01:06:06):
What time is it even?
Oh my God, it's one 30.
Frank (01:06:09):
I'm so sorry oh it's fine .
I'm really glad I ate lunch weuh, it's no, it's not we, it's
me.
Kim (01:06:20):
It is you.
Frank (01:06:21):
I was like I was like oh, we'll make this quick, make it
easy, nope.
Lauren (01:06:24):
Thank you so much.
Kim (01:06:27):
Very, very welcome.
Lauren (01:06:29):
I mean yeah, and if you guys have any, other questions
that pop up.
Kim (01:06:31):
you know or ever want to do a session with Monty?
We are always available and asyou re-listen to it you will
realize more things, like I'mgoing to tell you right now.
It's an unfolding.
When you listen to him it's notall apparent like the first go
through or even the second gothrough.
Lauren (01:06:46):
Yeah, oh, so helpful.
Thank you so much, kim.
Thanks, kim.
Thank you guys for having me.
I really appreciate it.
Frank (01:06:56):
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Claire Voyaging is a productionof Wayfeather Media.
Hey, beings of infinite possibility, today's episode is
part two, with Kim, charlson andMonty.
If you heard part one, you knowthat Kim is a channeler who
channels a spirit guide namedMonty.
We got the chance to ask Montysome questions, including some
from listeners, so stick aroundand hear what he has to say.
I'm Lauren Leon and I'm acowboy.
(00:24):
Oh.
Frank (00:26):
On a steel horse, I ride and I'm wanted Dead or alive.
Lauren (00:36):
We are a married couple, I think learning how to develop
our own intuition.
And this is episode 85 ofClaire Voyaging, Wayfeather
Media presents.
Frank (01:09):
Claire Voyaging.
Let it go a little bit longerthere, because I was rapping
real hard.
That's okay, though I shouldhave recorded that one because
that would have gotten us.
That would have made us losesome followers so aggressive?
Lauren (01:20):
I was yelling you were yelling and you were yelling
about like zanny's and cranniesand and suppositories.
This show has taken a nose diveinto the deep dark underworld.
Frank (01:40):
When I rap, I can't be held responsible for what comes
out of my mouth because I am notin control of it.
Maybe I'm a rap channel.
Lauren (01:47):
Who are you channeling?
Frank (01:48):
I'm channeling someone who has a serious problem.
Lauren (01:54):
Okay, you guys, we're back with Kim.
She's amazing and I think a lotof you know that, because we've
heard from you that you startedlistening to her podcast and
that you just really enjoyed thelast episode.
So now we get to hear fromMonty and let me just tell you
(02:16):
the things that Monty was sayingwas really revelatory.
Frank (02:21):
Monty knows his shit.
Monty's a big thinker and theconcepts are high, but he gets
grounded too and like, tells youexactly what you need and
what's up.
Lauren (02:29):
So what Frank needs to hear.
Frank (02:32):
I'm never, I'm never clear.
I'm always getting a little jabfrom the, from the spirit,
guides and stuff.
Lauren (02:36):
It's very, you can take it.
Frank (02:38):
I feel like I also think it's funny.
Lauren (02:39):
Yeah.
Frank (02:40):
More.
Lauren (02:46):
So I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did.
And don't forget, there'salways some extra stuff on
patreon, so keep an eye out forthat.
Frank (02:49):
We love you love you, monty time it's monty time.
Lauren (02:53):
It's monty time kim, I'm so happy that you're back to
talk with us and that you'vebrought our pal monty with you.
We already feel like we like weknow Monty and we're excited to
talk to him.
So what are the rules?
I mean, you already said noconspiracy theories.
(03:15):
There's a lot going on rightnow.
We're not going to address anyof that because we want this to
be sort of a timeless thing.
Kim (03:26):
He also will decline to answer the conspiracy theories
for the most part and be morereferring it back to you yeah,
Cause we do have people that askabout that and he'll be like
okay, so what is this actuallysaying about your worldview and
your energy and where you're at?
So that's how he handles thosequestions.
But in terms of the rules oflike, how it works and this
applies for all the sessions wealways take three deep centering
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breaths.
That way we're able to receive.
So I'd ask the listeners thatwhen we get to that point, that
they do too, and then I will sayan invocation and that kind of
sets the energetic tone.
So it gets us all into a placewhere we're ready to be in that
higher vibration space andreally be open to receiving
whatever wisdom comes through.
And then from there I will getquiet and you guys can edit that
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part out for the listeners.
It'll take me one to two minutesto get connected and then the
next voice that you'll hear willactually be Monty, and he's let
me know that for today'ssession he is going to do a
little like welcome message atthe beginning for the listeners
about what they're going throughand what the energy is like
right now that he wants them topay attention to, and then he
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will ask you for your firstquestion from there.
So then he'll ask you if you'vecompleted all your questions
when he kind of feels like we'reto the end here.
And then he usually gives aclosing message of everything he
wants you to take away from it.
And today he's going to kind ofloop in what he says in the
welcome with all the questionsto kind of give it a narrative
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thread that people can he'susing the word latch on to and
follow that thread throughoutall the way to the closing
message of what they can doafter listening to this episode.
Then after that he will say hislast thing he always says is
that is all, and then I willground back down and then I'll
come back and that usually takesa minute or two.
(05:19):
I'm a little woozy when I comeout right immediately, but then
if you guys have any questionsthen we can chat as human to
human at that point okay amazingokay
Frank (05:29):
by the way, I'm gonna start utilizing that is all.
With my children, I feel likethat's a great strategy like
really spoken yeah, he alsorefers to himself as a
collective we.
Kim (05:42):
Um, but he is masculine, so I call him the he.
But he refers to himself as acollective we, but he is
masculine, so I call him the he,but he refers to himself as a
we.
So his pronoun choices are alittle confusing for humans in
that way.
Frank (05:55):
He's in good company then .
Kim (05:57):
All right, so we good to get started.
Frank (06:01):
Let's hit it.
Kim (06:02):
Okay, so we're going to take our three deep breaths and
just allow ourselves to, tocenter into this moment
breathing in, breathing out,breathing in, breathing out
deepest breath of the day,breathing in and breathing out.
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Dear Divine Oneness, thank youso much for bringing into this
moment of all the coordinationsthat had to happen along both
and all of our journeys, both inhuman and a non-physical form.
We are so thankful for all ofthis coordination.
We send you great appreciationand thanks for everything that
you have done to create thissynchronicity.
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We are so thankful for Monty,for the guidance that he will
provide today, for all of thelisteners and their openness to
receive the guidance.
We are so thankful for ourrespective spirit teams for the
guidance that they provide us.
We ask that for all of thoseyou continue to provide
resources, love, assistance andhelp along their spiritual
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journeys.
We send love and appreciation toMother Earth for all the ways
that she holds us, for theabundance that she brings us,
and we recognize that everythingin physical manifestation is a
product of her.
So we send her great gratitudefor all of this and more.
We send love and appreciationfor all of the peoples who are
suffering right now through allof the different challenges.
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We ask, universe, that youcontinue to guide them in your
infinite wisdom, in the waysthat you can.
We also send thanks andappreciation to the people who
challenge us, who show us theways that we still have yet to
work within ourselves to bringourselves into a greater peace
and greater alignment.
We send love and appreciationto all of those people and ask
that you do the same.
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Please continue to bless allpeople, places, things, ideas,
beings, physical andnon-physical, through all time
and space.
And so it is.
Hello, it is Monty.
How are you both today?
We're doing well.
How are you, monty?
Monty, how?
Frank (08:02):
are you both today?
We're doing well.
How are you, Monty?
Kim (08:05):
We are delighted to be here with you and so, as we have
instructed Kimberly to convey toyou, we would like to begin
with an opening message and thenwe will invite questions and
then close with a final message.
Does that sound good to you?
That sounds great.
Thank you for your permissionand for the space to bring these
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messages to your audience.
Energy as it surrounds you, andall of the bits and pieces
energetically of who you are,soul and your focus needs to be
attentive to the changes thatare occurring within your
energetic envelope and theenergies that you are inviting
in from external means into yourenvelope, and what happens when
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you do this.
At this point in human creation, there are many different
energies that you are dealingwith, many different chaotic and
great moving energies that maymake you feel as though you are
lost and unsure of who you are.
But the more that you becomeattentive to the inner state
within your own energy, aligningwith that essence of who you
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are within your soul, the easierit will be for you to define
what is you and what is not you,what is your energy and what is
something that you haveinternalized from the exterior
world and assumed as part ofyour identity.
Now, as we are in this eclipsewindow in particular, there is a
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self-shaming aspect that comeswith this identification process
, of understanding and feeling asense of guilt and shame of
when you have taken in externalenergies and of self-judgment of
that.
And what we would advise firstis rather for you to remember
that you have been conditionedin so many ways within human
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creation to allow the externalworld to define who you are, and
so you have become parthabituated to taking in those
external energies without evenrealizing it and allowing those
to become you.
And we say this with thegreatest of love.
You are more than your externalcircumstances.
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You are more than what theexternal energies tell you to be
and who you are, and so, inthis time in particular, it is
required for everyone, inphysical and non-physical form,
to be attentive to their energy,to be attentive to the external
energies that they areinternalizing and the effect it
has on one's identity.
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Now we are delighted for yourfirst question.
Let us begin.
Lauren (11:07):
Wow, thank you so much for that.
That really resonated with me.
Frank (11:13):
Monty, with this interaction that we're having
today, what are you hoping toaccomplish in this conversation?
Kim (11:23):
What a wonderful question.
And it is not often a questionthat is asked of those that are
channeled of why they are here.
It is so assumed most of thetime that they are there for the
best intentions.
However, discernment is of theutmost importance.
As we have said, you mustdiscern those external energies
before you make them part of whoyou are, those external
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energies before you make thempart of who you are.
Now, why we are here is to helpall of those who hear our
messages to come more intoalignment with their own energy,
and so we are delighted to behere as a guest on your podcast,
in particular, because theindividuals that listen to this
podcast are those that are inmore of a logical state, most of
the time of questioning whatthey are experiencing and using
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their logical mind.
Now, logic is a very importanttool, and we will not say that
logic does not have its place,but when it comes to those
experiences such as what you arehaving in this moment, logic in
many ways creates a veil ofenergy around your receiving
centers, and so our purpose andone of the reasons why we are
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here with you, is because ourenergy comes in a very logical
format that, when we arediscussing.
We are conveying energy throughthat logical veil because your
logic can make sense of it andunderstand it, but then you are
allowed to receive the energeticlessons, the energetic changes
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that come with channeling, andso it is a more effective way
for those who are very logicallyfocused to engage with
channeling of this fashion.
Frank (12:59):
Okay, that's awesome.
In line with that, do you haveany advice in terms of when
people of our collective, ofthis podcast, should allow for
logic to be at the forefront,and then what's the proper
handoff to making it aspiritually important lesson?
Kim (13:28):
yes, logic has its place, of course, but it is something
that should either occur beforeor after a spiritual experience,
that the experience itselfneeds to be experienced without
logic interfering, as it is thatveil of energy that prevents
many times those unrecognizablylogical, illogical things to
come through that energy.
So what we mean by this is,before you begin a spiritual
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experience of any kind, askyourself is this something I
feel I should be engaging with?
Is this something that feelsaligned for me, that feels good
to me?
Now, it is a feeling, but thelogical mind is what is doing
the assessment, in that way, oftaking stock of what you feel
capable of, of what you feel isappropriate for you.
Now, it may be that youactually quite decide.
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Logic mind is saying no, it isnot time yet, but you feel
within yourself something deeperof I must investigate this and
we would say rely on that, allowyour logic to be a reasoning
for you, but do not always sayoh yes, this is the only
judgment I can have.
And you discern at thebeginning.
And this keeps you engaged insuch a way that you are also
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protected.
Logic, in many ways, is aprotective mechanism.
Now, when you go into thespiritual experience or begin to
have one spontaneously.
Allow the logic to be set tothe side.
Allow yourself to experienceeverything there is to
experience in that moment.
Begin to have one spontaneously.
Allow the logic to be set tothe side.
Allow yourself to experienceeverything there is to
experience in that moment.
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Pay attention to your emotionsas they are an energetic guide
and if, at any time, difficultemotions come up that are not
guided by logic, allow yourselfto pause to feel those emotions
and make an emotionaldetermination if you wish to
continue to engage in thatspiritual experience After the
spiritual experience has come toits conclusion and the event is
terminated, then begin toengage again with logic.
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Use your discernment.
What was it that I experienced?
Can I make sense of it?
Does it fit with myunderstanding of the world?
If it does not, does it fitwith the vast understanding of
the world and that I need tochange my perspective?
How did I feel in this moment?
What is it that has changedwithin me?
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Asking those sorts of questionsagain is a logical process, not
an emotional one, but a logicalassessment process, and this
will help you understand andbegin to integrate those
spiritual experiences that youhad what a nice thing to say.
Frank (15:57):
And I'll tell you why.
Because the so many.
So often, when we experience aspiritual thing, it feels so, uh
, emotional, and then, when westart thinking about it too much
, it allows you know if you'rejust.
If there's a certain level ofdiscomfort with that spiritual
experience, you introduce somedoubt into that experience.
(16:18):
Yeah, and that doubt can leadto two things, and the first one
, which is maybe the not greatone, is the what do you call it?
Kim (16:29):
The doubt of self.
Frank (16:31):
Yeah, yeah, yes.
Kim (16:32):
Yeah.
Frank (16:32):
And then your suggestion, it seems like, is saying that
once that logic mind pops inagain and provides doubt, you
use that to spur investigation.
What else does it mean?
And then you go through thecycle again.
It sounds like there's no shamein that cycle.
That's how some of us operate.
Kim (16:49):
Indeed, doubt is not a shameful energy by any means,
and this is something that wewould offer to your listeners is
that there are no shamefulenergies.
Shame is conditioned.
Guilt is conditioned.
If you remove the externalworld, would you feel guilt or
shame?
It is dictated by only externalcircumstances.
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The difference between guiltand shame needs to be defined
slightly.
Shame is that you are being putupon externally, that you
yourself are not valuablebecause of who you are, whereas
guilt is that you have acted outof alignment with expectations
of who you are and who youshould be.
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Those are the differencesbetween guilt and shame.
Now, when we take any kind ofenergy and we leave it within
its own space, outside of anyexternal interactions, the
judgment of whether or not anenergy is deemed desirable or
undesirable is based off of twothings.
First, the conditions of yourassessment.
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What is it that brought you tothat understanding of that
energy?
The second is your soulalignment with that energy, and
that is the one we would offerthat you need to line up more
with than the conditionedunderstanding.
Your soul alignment has certainenergies that you collaborate
and work with, that you finddesirable.
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You have those intentionswithin your soul of what you
have found over previouslifetimes and previous
experiences of yes, I love thisenergy, I love collaborating
with it and working with it, andso I find it desirable.
There are other energies thatyou do not find desirable
because they did not mesh wellwith you.
We will say they are energiesthat were out of alignment, and
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so you have found those energiesto be undesirable.
And so you go through a processof learning which energies you
are drawn to, where you wish tobe within the energetic poles of
polarity and where you wish toreside and spend your time and
feel as though you are able toexpress your soul externally by
collaborating with theseenergies.
Lauren (19:00):
When you're talking about energies, are you mostly
talking about people, people'senergies, or like kind of an
idea around something, likesomething that you enjoy?
Kim (19:16):
It is the true essence of the energy itself that we are
speaking of, In understandingthat everything is energy first.
It can be an amalgamation ofdifferent energies and different
combinations, but everythingwithin manifest reality and
non-physical reality that is animportant point is energy
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primarily.
We are a non-manifest being.
We are pure energy.
Our soul in its essence is acombination of different
energies that have come togetherto create an identity in
separation from the universe asa whole.
Those different energies intheir combinations and the
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experiences of shifting thoseenergies over time to what we
have preferred to be, to makeour identity is what creates who
we are, and this applies foreverything and everyone in
creation.
Frank (20:13):
So, going back to what you're talking about is there.
You know we are living in anage where there is, on a daily
basis, we are being inundatedwith more information and news
than any one person can possiblyhandle, and I know for a lot of
people that there is a umyou're talking.
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You're talking about likeengaging with energies that
align with our true purpose, butI know for a lot of people it
feels like, oh, if you shut outsome of those energies, the
knowledge that they exist, thatyou're being ignorant or
something.
What's the right amount ofliving into your own true life
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energy versus what you areallowing in from the outside
world?
Kim (20:57):
that doesn't quite align versus what you are allowing in
from the outside world.
That doesn't quite align.
Now, what is important tounderstand is that you can exist
within your energetic envelopein any conditions, in any
conditions whatsoever, when youare fully within your energy and
you are self-sourced in thatway of that, you are dependent
on your life force being yoursoul and thus the connection
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from your soul to the divine.
That is your source of life,rather than taking in external
energies and making those yoursource of life, your source of
identity.
Now, when you are fully alignedwith allowing your identity to
be your soul rather thanexternal energies, you can go
throughout the world withoutabsorbing those energies,
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because you are full of theenergy of you, full of the
energy of the divine nature ofwhat you are.
Now, as you interact with thoseenergies you find undesirable
which we could term in thisdiscussion, lower vibrational,
difficult, chaotic energies thatyou may find that they are
negative for you, you can stillbe among those energies, but not
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absorbing them.
You can interact with them, butnot make them who you are.
So we would not say that it isto abstain, to say I am no
longer engaging with the world,I am ignoring the news.
I do not need to do that, butrather instead coming into that
energy of your soul, allowingthat to be your life source,
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allowing that to be youridentity and then interacting as
you choose with externalenergies, with external energies
, being aware, not ignorant, ofthose energies and understanding
your collaboration with them.
You do not need to take them into you, you do not need to
become them, and so it isrecognizing when you are
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becoming those energies, whenyou are taking them in, that,
when you can interact with thoseenergies in whatever form they
may be, such as the news, andnot allow that to dictate who
you are being, then you havebeen successful in that effort
and it is a lifelong endeavor.
And again, you should not beatyourself up when you feel guilt
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or shame, but remember thatthose two are energies, that you
can uncover the reasons whythey are there and resume your
focus on your own identity.
Does that answer your question?
Frank (23:27):
I believe it does.
I have a follow-up on that.
Kim (23:29):
Beautiful.
Frank (23:30):
I've read that people who are naturally empathetic have a
tendency to have a more porousenergetic field and that they
might have a hard timeseparating themselves from those
influential energies that theydon't feel like interacting with
.
Do you have any advice forpeople that are that do feel
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that way, in terms of like howto maintain their own energy
field without letting otherstuff in?
Kim (23:56):
Yes, there's two parts to this.
The first is why are theyempathetic in the first place?
In many cases, this empathy isa conditioned behavior as a
result of events that happenedin one's lifetime, in this
particular life only, and it isimportant to investigate where
that conditioning came from.
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You can use any modality thatyou wish, whether that is energy
healing or meditation or pastlife regression Any of those are
fine to help you identify, inthis life in particular, where
those conditionings came from.
We would also add therapy tothat list.
We are being reminded by therest of our collective.
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Now, as you go through thatprocess of understanding why am
I so empathetic?
You may investigate thatactually, you have been
conditioned to be empatheticover multiple lifetimes, in past
life regression or in justunderstanding that this issue
does not come from just thislifetime and that you are
repeating this over and over.
It can be something that youare still working through on a
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spiritual level to understandthat your empathy, while it is a
skill that you have developedover time, is coming at great
cost to you being your ownenergy.
Now, empathy can still be donewithout taking energy into
yourself, and these are the twodifferent types of empathy
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Empathy where it is notbeneficial and this is step two
is when you allow yourself totake in someone else's energy,
to take that on as your identity.
Identity, for example, whensomeone is doing a healing, if
they are doing reiki or quantumor any other type of energetic
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healing on a subject and theybegin to feel a pain in their
back to help them identify thepain in the individual that they
are treating, then that isempathy.
They are taking in that energyand making it their identity.
The same can be said of whenyou have friends that they are
undergoing a difficulty and soyou take on that difficulty.
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Now it can be purely energeticand you begin to take on the
emotional state, the energeticstate or even the physical state
of someone else.
It becomes your identity stateor even the physical state of
someone else.
It becomes your identity.
But it can also be that youbegin to take action to resolve,
because if it is your identityand you do not want to be that,
the only route that you see tosolve it is to take action.
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So recognizing again when youare taking in that energy,
making it your identity, why itis happening and the resulting
action that you take, making it,your identity, why it is
happening and the resultingaction that you take, just
observing and understanding.
But for this step two, what itis is that when that occurs, you
do some remedial meditation,some remedial focus on the
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energy of your soul, the placewhere you can most feel the
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energy of your soul.
We would recognize that you areentirely that energy.
But for humanity to reconnectwith the energy of your soul and
then ask your soul, just in itsown space, its own time and its
own effort, with no requirementof your psychic abilities, to
expand out from you, to envelopyour entire envelope, to allow
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yourself to come back into thatidentity.
And merely by doing thisexercise routinely, every time
that you feel you are taking onemotions from someone else,
we're acting in a way to resolveidentity crises.
That that will help you to tuneback into who you really are
and remember that and in thatremembrance you will begin to
shed those other energies thatyou have taken on as your
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identity very helpful yeah,that's great.
Lauren (28:03):
I I feel like that is kind of a good segue into one of
our listener questions becauseas we absorb so much from
everything that's going on inthe world right now and in our
country, things can feel as ourlistener put it it seems bleak
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and dark right now.
So the question is are wecollectively headed to a more
positive future?
Headed to a more positive?
Kim (28:38):
future.
Yes, what we would say is that,collectively, it is a choice
that you are making as acollective Humanity in its great
infinite wisdom, we will say,because humans are very wise in
their own right, are at a choiceright now.
And, as many have talked aboutand predicted, there is this
choice of what is my reality,and there will be those that
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choose to be working towards apositive, beneficial to all
reality and there will be thosethat do not.
But the more that choose oneway, the more that that will
change the energy and those willbe brought Mitch kicking and
screaming along the way tosomething more positive.
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Now, what we will say is thereason why it feels so bleak
right now is that that portionof society and human creation is
going through a process ofrealizing that they are being
encroached on by the energy ofpositivity.
Of the rest.
Now, it is a smaller minoritythan what you believe.
It may seem as though it iseverything you see everywhere
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you look, but if you trulyunderstand those individuals
also have great love within them.
They are not full of hate inthe way that you may see.
There are things that they lovejust as vehemently as you do,
and so they are, too, creatingpositive energy in the same way,
and so, because you are holdingthat positive energy in a much
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more profound way and they areholding some of that positive
energy, they are also going tomake the choices of going
towards positive energy in theirown right just not completely,
as entirely as others may.
But that is why we see humanitymoving in a positive direction,
because within each humanindividual there is still great
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love, even though there may beresiding great hate, great
frustration, great othernegative emotions you would like
to avoid.
Trauma, challenge.
All of those, even some ofthose that are very physically
manifest, such as war and famine, all of those energies are also
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accompanied by great love,great love indeed.
Those who are stillexperiencing or causing those
issues still have positiveenergies within them, and so,
recognizing this within yourselfof where you have an abundance
of positive energies and whereyou take on that identity of
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negative energies withinyourself, that is your work to
do To notice when you are takingthe identity of this small
portion and making it yours, andthe more that you can refrain
from doing that and instead holdthe love that you have within
your heart and love them evenstill for what they are doing
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because they are showing youwhere you have absorbed that
identity, into who you are aswell.
It is a difficult process andnot everyone will succeed all
the time, and we understand.
But it is part of that processthat humanity is going through
and there will be those thatwill continue to reside in that
reality of negativity as, as youI'm sure understand, within
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your own life.
There are certain individualsthat, no matter how many good
situations and how manysynchronicities and
opportunities come their way,they are always stuck in that
negative mode of being thoseundesirable energies that even
they don't want to be, but theycannot seem to move out of it.
Those people will always bepart of humanity, always Is
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there like, I feel like thereare some people.
Lauren (32:28):
There are some people who are of the belief that there
are just evil humans.
And, uh, I, I tend to be of thebelief that, like I can see not
that I can see well, I tend togo towards people's.
I can see all perspectives andI also have this deep, strong
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belief that at everyone's core,they think they're doing what's
best.
Um, someone would stronglydisagree with me and say, no,
there are evil souls out thereand I'm kind of wondering, like
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out there, and I'm kind ofwondering, before someone
chooses this life, do they makea choice that is, I'm going to
be kind of an a-hole or I'mgoing to cause a lot of
destruction, and that is part ofmy path, because I need to
learn something I don't know.
Or is that like, oh, you veeredoff and now things have to
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happen to make sure you get onthe right path?
I'm just kind of trying tofigure out where that decision
gets made.
Is it in free will or is itbefore they hit the earth?
Kim (33:55):
yes, this is a very theoretical question, so we will
be giving you a theoreticalanswer, so please bear with us
as we are discussing this.
So, okay, in its essence, theuniverse is neutral, and this is
a fact that is much discussed,and some have different opinions
, but in our perspective, theuniverse in all of its entirety
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adds up to neutral.
It is all that is.
It is also nothing.
It is everything and nothing.
So therefore, it is neutral.
Do you understand and agreewith this premise before we
continue?
Yes, beautiful.
Now, if you do not agree withthat premise for the listeners,
that is okay.
You have a differentperspective, but we would ask
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you just to be open,understanding this premise.
So, with the universe asneutral, each and every one of
us that is in creation, physicalor non-physical, is a separate
being from all that is.
We exist in our individualidentity and inside of our
individual identity.
We have chosen thatamalgamation of energies that we
find desirable and undesirable.
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Some of those desirableenergies may be love and light
and patience, but it could alsobe destruction and chaos.
That is a preference that youhave chosen.
So it is not necessarily thatsome energies are evil or good,
because, as we discussed before,all energies serve a, energies
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From the other side, thoseenergies that you consider
negative, they consider positiveand they see the energies that
you consider positive asnegative.
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They are merely differentperspectives within the
energetic plane.
So it is this idea thateverything exists in balance.
Everything adds up to neutral.
So, therefore, there are thosethat are inclined to more of an
amalgamation of energies youwould find positive and those
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that would find an amalgamationof energies that are negative.
But the universe, as we havesaid, is neutral, but that does
not mean that it is not gettingto something you would consider
more positive over time, becauseit is your perspective that
dictates that positivity.
So, as such, as there is aconditioning of saying these
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energies are more positive andwe are collectively picking
these energies over time, thatdoes not mean that these
negative energies will disappear.
They will still be there.
But it will be that humanity,in its creation, is moving
towards more positive energy andtherefore the reality in which
you reside feels more positiveover time.
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And this is something that wewill remind all listeners about
is that, although there are manynegative energies in your
perspective, humanity is in asignificantly more positive
place than it has ever beenbefore we are able to speak with
you right now through thistechnology that allows us to
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come into this moment.
Most humans are able to becared for in some manner.
Most humans are able to livewith a relative sense of health
and freedom in a way that waspreviously not possible, even a
few hundred years ago, let aloneeons within human creation.
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It is a perspective right nowof that.
You are very aware of theseenergies that you feel are very
negative and how they areencroaching on you Because,
again, as you are seeing them,you are taking them in and
allowing them to become part ofyour identity.
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But you must recognize thatthere are parts of you that do
enjoy those energies, maybe to alesser degree or a different
format.
For example, if you are someonewho does not agree with
violence as an energy, and yetviolence in many ways, in its
essence of that energy, is verymuch a structure of your
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existence.
All the same, there are othermodes of violence.
It could be something as simpleas watching American football.
It is a very violent sport.
But there are other forms ofviolence as well Violence in
terms of how food is produced,even if you are a vegetarian or
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vegan, if you believe that allhas consciousness, as we do.
In our perspective, harvestingis violent to those that are
harvested, and so it is abalance of these energies within
yourself, of understanding whatit really is.
Is the format that you have anissue with Now when it comes to
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to answer your question morefully.
When it comes to electing yourpreferences, those are developed
over time, over many lives.
If you are a soul that has notbeen incarnate before, that does
not mean that you have notexisted in separation.
You are just a non-physicalbeing before coming into
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incarnation and as such, youhave had experiences with
different energies in all oftheir different formats and
interpretations, whetherphysical or non-physical, and
your interactions that have ledyou to understand.
Yes, I like collaborating withthis energy more, and so that is
my preference, and so when yougo from life to life to life,
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you carry those preferences withyou, and sometimes it can be an
elected choice of in this life.
I really want to experience thisenergy, so I'm going to seek it
out, I'm going to experiencethat state of being and I'm
going to take those externalenergies and I'm going to
internalize them in this waybecause my soul has them, but I
want to experience them asexternal realities, and that is
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something you can choose,certainly, but for the most part
, many souls develop this overmany, many lifetimes.
And that is something you canchoose, certainly, but for the
most part, many souls developthis over many, many lifetimes.
And it is the altering from onepreference to another as you go
through different experienceswith those energies in
collaboration, where you beginto change your own amalgamation
of energies.
And that is how souls changeover time.
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They do not necessarily changein their makeup, but change in
their expression of whatenergies they are wishing to
present as their identity sothen thank you for that.
Frank (40:43):
So, then, I'm assuming that, like even in our, in our
physical 3d life, that as wemake, uh, our selections towards
what energies we are actuallyattracted to, we are actually
setting the course for futurelives.
Kim (40:55):
Correct.
It's the same way as we havediscussed recently on our
podcast with Kimberly aboutspiritual gifts the idea of that
when you come into one life,you can have special talents or
skills that's come innate to youand that those are the things
you should do with your life.
Because they come easily.
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It is really because you havebuilt up those skills over
multiple lifetimes and it is aremembering when you get
re-exposed to those skillsVersus, that does not mean that
those things that do not comenaturally to you are not
worthwhile.
If you truly feel the desirewithin yourself to do this thing
, it is laying the foundationfor future lives, where it comes
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more easily to you and allowsyour soul to experience
different versions of reality.
Oh, that's interesting.
Lauren (41:46):
I like that.
Frank (41:47):
The okay.
So then one more question aboutlike collective energies and
like the perceived how thingsfeel.
Kind of chaotic Is that.
You know you're talking abouthow all things are.
The energy is neutral, theuniverse is innately neutral.
Then the perceived oscillationbetween chaos and order is that
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actually just perceived or isthere an actual oscillation
occurring during this period?
Or, like I said, is it just new?
Kim (42:26):
exposure to too much exposure to news.
What it is is, your perceptionof reality is extremely limited,
extremely limited.
Indeed, there are many otherplaces within the universe that
humans do not even recognizeexist.
There are many other dimensionswithin the universe that humans
cannot access, and so we wouldsay is you don't know what is
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happening in all of those otherplaces, so you cannot know the
true nature of reality, youcannot understand the universe
in its entirety when you aretrying to view it from the
perspective of your reality.
Does that make sense?
Frank (43:05):
Yes, I say we have too much exposure to news and you're
saying we don't have enough.
Kim (43:09):
yes, not so much that news is the issue here, but rather
that you are seeing a smallslice of reality.
And so then you are saying, oh,this is everything, that's all
there is right, we're like thefish in a fish tank.
Lauren (43:24):
That's like when it's getting crowded in here.
The humans are like there's alot, a lot.
Kim (43:32):
No one has cleaned our tank in quite a while.
Frank (43:34):
Everything else must be quite dirty too, yeah yeah, what
a bunch of how, how much, howmuch are, how much are we
affecting other other dimensions?
Or is it, is it not quite likethat?
Is it more that we are?
Um, we are a representation ofwhat's going on.
Kim (43:55):
Well, we would ask you do we exist in a different
dimension?
Some would say, yes, you areaffecting us right now, as we
are having this conversation.
We are also affecting all ofthe listeners in this way, and
that is an energetic exchange.
Of course, it is in the formatof speech in this instance, but
that is only the manifested formof this energy.
So we would say that, yes, yourenergies and what you are doing
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are affecting other dimensionsand those other dimensions are,
in turn, affecting you.
Now, again, whether or not youchoose to be affected by those
is how much you decide to bein-souled, how much you decide
to take those external energiesand allow them to be your
identity.
Now, of course, that is notwithout saying that external
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circumstances do not affect you,but they do not need to become
you.
Frank (44:45):
That is the difference I really like what something you
said earlier.
You're talking about how, umand I don't know, I don't know
if I've heard it this way beforeyou were talking about how.
I guess I have an assumptionthat before this life, that
maybe, especially if you hadn'tbeen incarnated as a living
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creature yet, that you were kindof just like a weird vague part
of the blanket, but you'resuggesting that there actually
was like a sense ofindividuality even before this
everything that exists in theuniverse is also separate.
Kim (45:19):
The universe is the whole and everything is separate at
the same time and, as such, allof that separation comes with
what is called an identity wewon't say ego, as that word is
loaded, but that it has someidea of who it is in separation,
and it is an investigation inmany times of who am I in
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relation to the whole, whatmakes me unique and special and
different?
And that is understanding theexpression of your unique energy
.
It is not a selfish thing byany means to understand that you
exist in individual form, thatyou are separate from everything
else, and that is what makesyou special and those energies
that make you special is part ofthat, but also recognizing that
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you are part of the whole, thatyou are only one tiny facet of
energy expressed.
Lauren (46:10):
So I think this leads to a good listener question, which
is Lauren's cutting me off.
Frank (46:17):
Yeah, we have listener questions.
I haven't.
We haven't gotten to.
Lauren (46:20):
I mean, I don't want this to be a three-hour long.
Frank (46:22):
I know, sorry, monty, I'll talk forever.
Kim (46:25):
The problem is not us, but our channel will tire eventually
, so we would ask that we retainour focus.
Lauren (46:32):
Okay will tire eventually, so we would ask that
we retain our focus.
Okay, um.
So the question is how can weexpand our energy capacity?
Kim (46:41):
ah, what a beautiful question.
Indeed.
The way to expand yourenergetic capacity is to accept
more energy and tighter yourselfto it, basically, but again,
tighter, tighter, as in.
You take in some, you allow itto expand, you rest there.
You take in some, you expand,you allow it to rest there.
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You are adjusting your capacitybit by bit.
You do not do it all at once,because that can cause many
issues, including psychosis, andthis is why you do it over time
.
Now, when it comes to how toactually do that, there's a
question of where you are takingthose energies from.
Are you taking those externalenergies and allowing them to be
in your energetic capacity?
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Are you taking your soul andallowing it, in its infinite
form, to be that capacity?
And, as a reminder, we havesaid, although briefly, that
your soul is what is connectionto the divine.
That is how you can have thatbeing your life force, and so,
therefore, expanding yourenergetic capacity bit by bit by
bit.
If you do it too quickly this isthe issue is that you expand
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your energy out, and withenergetic movement comes chaos.
Chaos truly is energy movingquickly from place to place to
place.
That is all the chaos is.
Some see it as a negativeenergy again, but again it is
just energy moving very quickly.
Now, if you expand out too fast, all of a sudden that energy is
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moving, it is very ungrounded,it's very unintegrated.
Thus results in chaos in yourlife, your emotional state and
your psychology.
Lauren (48:16):
Okay, this is a more.
I think this can be relatableto other people, but this was a
very specific question.
It says I'm a partly closetedwhich, due to depression, life,
whatever else, I feel as I.
I feel like I let my practicego by the wayside.
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I don't know why I just lapsed.
I feel like I should go back toit, but I don't know where to
start.
And by the second Iacknowledged it, shit really hit
the fan.
Is that why my life feels asthough it's in shambles, or is
this a moment of ebb and flow oflife?
Did I do this to myself?
I've been listening to Kim'svessel and voice and everything
feels like it's clicking intoplace.
Does Monty have any advice forme on next steps?
Kim (49:04):
Yes, the step that you need to take first is to forgive
yourself.
That is the important part hereof that.
You feel as though you havelapsed and you don't know how to
get back in, and that is comingfrom the version of you that is
saying how could you lapse inthe first place?
How could you have done this tous, to ourselves?
You are causing all of theseissues that are happening in the
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world and in your life.
You are the problem, you arethe reason.
The first step is justforgiveness for understanding
that life happens, and ithappens in such a way that you
are the product not only of yourchoices, but you are affected
by the choices of others.
The concept that you createyour entire reality is a very
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selfish one indeed, ignoring thechoices of the others, of the
collective of all of us thatimpact each and every one of us.
It is within your own energy tochange that reality and your
interaction with it, but it isnot always your fault.
In that way, it is a veryvictim blaming mindset to say,
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ah, you did wrong and so,therefore, everything in the
world is your fault, and wewould say, really, is that
really your fault?
And so it begins first withforgiveness, of understanding
that, although you have erred inwhat your preferences are,
allowing yourself to come backinto that wholeness of who you
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are is through forgiveness, byaccepting and understanding that
the past has happened, but youare here in this moment now and
you do not need to carry thatpast forward with you.
Those energies can stay there,but in this moment of reality
you can forgive yourself andreunite with that essence of.
With you, those energies canstay there, but in this moment
of reality you can forgiveyourself and reunite with that
essence of who you are Now.
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When it comes to actuallygetting back into that practice,
do whatever you desire,whatever feels right, whatever
allows you to feel a sense ofease, a sense of connection with
yourself, a sense of excitement.
All of those are differentmethods that your soul is
communicating with you throughyour emotions, of saying, yes,
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we want to do that.
These are the energies we wishto collaborate with and we are
excited for it.
We are excited to manifest withthose in reality, to create, to
express who we are.
So just listen to that smallvoice inside of yourself, but
forgiveness takes off the veilthat you have put there to
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listen to that bit of who youare Now.
We hope that this has answeredall of the questions, as it was
multiple parts here, but theother thing that we would add,
finally, is a reflection on theidea that you create your
reality but are simultaneouslyresponsible for everything that
happens to you.
As we have talked about brieflyhere, reality is a product of
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all of the different choices.
You were not someone who choseto create, for example, the
internet that allows thispodcast to exist, but somehow
you say all of these bad thingsthat are happening to me are my
reality and I have created them.
Is this not your reality rightnow?
And yet you did not create theinternet that allowed for this
technology.
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We would say that it is areframing within yourself of
radical responsibility for yourown energy, yes, but a radical
understanding that everyone'schoices affect everyone else.
You are part of a larger whole,so be responsible for what you
can, but understand you cannotbe responsible for the whole
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that's fantastic.
Lauren (52:50):
Thank you, and I mean I relate to that.
Frank (52:53):
So yeah, I guess this is related, monty, I've heard we
all have like our own energeticvibration, like each individual
has a frequency is there is thatamalgamation of energies that
we talked about is another wayof terming that.
Yes, if you like, reallyinherit a certain belief or, uh,
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reality that you want to havecome true?
Do you, does it change yourfrequency so much that, like you
will repel other things orpeople that resemble the
opposite?
Or is this too like?
Is this too like a um, I don'tknow theoretical?
Kim (53:27):
no, no, that is correct.
So what we will is if weimagine the universe as a large
plane of energy yes, it does notexist this way, but we will use
this just for our explanationand on this plane, the universe
in its entirety is in the middleof all that is.
And then, as you go further outfrom that center, in different
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ways, there are differentenergetic preferences that are
pronounced within the differentplane.
So, for example of using ourprevious discussion, violence is
over here, love is over here,affection is here, maybe close
to love.
There are grouped together assimilar energies of similar
vibrations.
Violence is also with hate,with harm to others.
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Those other energies aregrouped together, and so what we
would say is that when you comeinto creation, you are saying,
okay, I shall take this fromthis part of the plane and this
from this part of the plane, andI like this and this.
And then there can be partsthat you don't even recognize
that you're taking from theparts you say you don't like
what you do, and so what you dois you create yourself in this
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way of this identity, much inthe same way that is on the
plane, but you would say I guessI am here on the plane mostly,
and so I am among all of theseother energies and people that
are like those energies, andthat is my vibration for the
most part, not recognizing thatfrom time to time you go over
here rather than staying whereyou are, but allowing yourself
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to be among the other energiesthat are similar, that you enjoy
.
It is that attractive elementbecause there is the polar
opposite on the other side ofthe plane.
It is not quite such a polarity, it is a field of energy we
would say on this plane.
So it is more that when youbegin to identify as a certain
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amalgamation of energies, it isthat you are picking that point
on the plane to reside in and soyou are hanging out, we will
say, with those other energies,attracting those energies to you
, and in the same way that youare repelling the other energies
on the other side of the planethat are the opposite.
Now what we would say and thisis important is that energies
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exist in polarity.
There can be two differentenergetic interpretations of the
same energy.
So, for example, we would uselove and hate.
Love is one pole, hate is theother pole.
They are the same energy.
Hate is the other pole.
They are the same energy butthey are on opposite sides and
different expressions of thatenergy.
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The energy in its essence isthe same.
So for those who love verydeeply they often see how much
hate there is in the world.
Because they are the sameenergy.
They are the same energy and sothey recognize the opposite
pole and say, oh, I do not wantthat.
And so they more insistentlystay in their pole, but at the
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same time they recognize theformats of that energy in other
places.
Does that make sense?
Lauren (56:23):
Yes, yes, yeah.
Frank (56:24):
The way you describe it is so interesting because it
almost in my mind.
It creates like a almost a map,like a star map of like places
and things that you want to be apart of.
Kim (56:33):
Yeah, it is an oversimplification, but a good
way for the logical mind tothink about it.
Frank (56:37):
Listen, monty, oversimplification is kind of my
jam, so that's my language.
Kim (56:42):
We can see that in your energy, because it allows you to
compartmentalize differentaspects of who you are, to say
ah, I am being this, I am beingthis, I am being this.
What is required for you and weare calling you out a bit here
is to integrate thatoversimplified version of who
you are into a more integratedwhole.
Frank (57:02):
Yeah, that's the goal right, I'm, I'm, I'm.
That's what I'm working towards.
I appreciate that.
Kim (57:07):
I'm delighted for your reception of that advice.
Lauren (57:11):
Okay, there's one more listener question, yes, which is
how can we strengthen theconnection with our own guides?
Kim (57:23):
One of our favorite questions.
The first step is to just askthem to make themselves known to
you, so that way you canunderstand that they are indeed
there.
So ask for a particular signfor them to show you, to
recognize that they are presentand make it something easy for
you to see that is different inyour day.
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So, for example, for ourlisteners right now, you may
want to pick a flamingo if youdo not live in Florida and ask
to see a flamingo in any form,just so, that way you can know
that your spirit guides arethere.
And be patient, be open.
Do not allow your logic mind tofilter it out, but just say
this is a fun game I am playing.
I will look for the flamingowith curiosity and if it is
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there, then it is up to me thenafterwards to use my discernment
to decide whether or not it wasvalid.
But in that moment of thatspiritual experience, I'm just
going to explore with mycuriosity and allow myself to
see the flamingo wherever it maybe, however it may present
itself.
After you have done this andyou recognize that your spirit
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guides are present with you,they do care about you and they
are an entity source outside ofyou recognizing that you could
not create something in realityfor you to notice, then this
allows you to begin to deepenyour relationship with them,
because you must first recognizethat your spirit guides exist
in the first place for you to beable to engage with them.
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Now, after you have done that,the next thing to do is to allow
you to raise your energy to thelevel where spirit guides are.
In spirit, there are manydifferent levels of vibration,
depending on how we will sayhigh the vibration is.
It is not really the best way,but it is an easy way for humans
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to understand.
It has to do with spiritualexperience more than anything
else.
But spirit guides, although wehave copious amounts of
spiritual experience, we stepdown our energy to be closer to
physical manifestation, so thatway we can be near you to
monitor, to help, to guide.
We will never interfere.
So if you're questioning of Imust not have spirit guides
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because all this terrible thingshappens to me and no one ever
interferes, that is not what wedo.
We are there to help you makechoices, but again, you're
responsible for your own choices.
Now, as you learn how to raiseyour energy up to the level
where we are, you must alsolearn to ground your energy so
that way you can bring throughthe messages that we send you
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and allow yourself to be in thisspace of connection, but to
open your heart in particular toreceive your spirit.
Guides are there withunconditional love and for many,
the first time that you connectwith us, you feel that love in
its overwhelming sense.
Allow yourself to feel, havethat spiritual experience and
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then question it later.
Be patient with yourself.
Let go of any fears that youhave.
Spend time knowing what thosefears are and allowing them to
be let go.
That is often the thing thatholds people back the most from
communicating with their guides.
It is either fear or lack ofenergetic capabilities.
Frank (01:00:38):
Well, you've mentioned that you're part of a collective
and I want to know what thatmeans, and I also want to know
if there's anybody or anyindividual in that collective
that maybe we've heard of.
I don't know, maybe you've gota favorite.
Kim (01:00:58):
Elvis, I have no idea.
It would be Archangel Michaelthat you would have heard of
that.
We are part of a collectivewith we are separate beings.
So we are not a groupedcollective in the same way as
some others that will speakthrough one particular voice,
but we are a collective ofseparate beings that are here in
an effort to help humanity.
Each of us has a differentproclivity within that, such as
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we work with Kimberly and allowto channel to bring that, as we
have said, logical mind to getthrough the energy to be
received to allow those changesin union with the soul and
therefore union with the divine.
Each of us has a different taskwe do not want to use the word
job, because that feels like anassignment, but something that
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we have chosen to do and so weare collaborating with those
different beings in such a waythat we are able to come to a
union in that way.
Now we understand that you havea reluctance about angels in
particular, but what we wouldlike you to know is that those
are names given to these beingsby humanity.
They may not turn themselvesangels.
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So if that helps, you feel morecomfortable with it.
Understand it is a humancreation of angelship rather
than the angels themselves.
Lauren (01:02:12):
Got it Monty's really followed you out a couple of
times.
Frank (01:02:18):
Monty, does your collective have like a team name
?
Kim (01:02:22):
No.
Frank (01:02:23):
Okay, it's more just your mission that you identify as.
Kim (01:02:27):
We're a group of different beings, and so we collaborate
from time to time in such afashion, but it is not so
formalized in that way.
It is more that we have a unionof energetic intention that we
are holding together.
Frank (01:02:44):
Got it Cool.
Kim (01:02:46):
Is that our final question for today?
Frank (01:02:48):
That's our final question .
Is there anything else you'dlike to say to the collective?
Kim (01:02:52):
We would like to answer one final question that you
inquired about, about why we usethe pronoun we.
Yes, yes.
Now we use the pronoun webecause we are a specific
individual being, but we are anintegrated being of a collection
of all of the past lives thatwe have lived, and so we have
many different aspects to who weare Now.
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As we had previously discussedwith Kimberly and she related to
you we are that spirit guideplus level, as it were, that we
have existed in other formats.
Our energy has stepped down atthis point further than it is
naturally for us to reside in,and so there is a intentional
split of ability in between ourtruest self and who we are
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presenting in this moment, andso we say we because we are
conveying from that higherechelon to our lower selves to
this moment.
Now, as Kimberly comes moreinto her channeling abilities,
she will be able to begin towork with other versions of us
that are more ascended.
Does that make sense?
It is a bit of a confusing ideafor humans, because we've
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resided multiple planes at thesame time.
Frank (01:04:00):
It does.
Yeah, I, we think, lauren, andI think about it a lot like
remote control cars, where youcan control something from far
away and it still works.
Is, monty, is it uncomfortablefor you to be this low?
Yes it is well.
I really appreciate thediscomfort you have to go
through to impart wisdom alsouncomfortable for us to be in a
physical form it's true.
Kim (01:04:22):
Yeah, yeah, good point, even for me sometimes yes, we
would like to close with amessage to bring all of the
things that we have discussedtogether.
The most important step that youcan take within your own
spiritual exploration anddevelopment is to assess the
ways that you have taken thoseexternal energies, whether they
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are shame or guilt, or even justleading yourself up and it made
them into who you are.
The more that you recognize thedifference of who you really are
inside that tiny little energyand voice that maybe you have
suppressed, and allow yourselfto tap into that on a more
consistent basis, the more youwill be able to deal with the
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chaos and the bumps and theturmoil of life, the more that
you will feel that sense ofalignment and centering,
regardless of what is happeningaround you, regardless of the
spiritual problems or strugglesthat you are going through and
the experiences that make youquestion your reality and your
perception of the world.
The more that you spend timewith that energy, term it your
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soul yourself, your identity,whatever you want, we do not
mind, but the more that youspend time with that energy, the
easier you will have of goingthrough this process, becoming
who you want to be andexpressing that self in manifest
reality in a way that feelsauthentic, that feels aligned
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and feels true to you.
We send you great love in thisendeavor.
That is all.
Frank (01:05:54):
Thank you, Monty.
Lauren (01:05:55):
Thank you so much.
Kim (01:06:00):
Holy moly, how long was that?
Frank (01:06:03):
Sorry.
Kim (01:06:06):
What time is it even?
Oh my God, it's one 30.
Frank (01:06:09):
I'm so sorry oh it's fine .
I'm really glad I ate lunch weuh, it's no, it's not we, it's
me.
Kim (01:06:20):
It is you.
Frank (01:06:21):
I was like I was like oh, we'll make this quick, make it
easy, nope.
Lauren (01:06:24):
Thank you so much.
Kim (01:06:27):
Very, very welcome.
Lauren (01:06:29):
I mean yeah, and if you guys have any, other questions
that pop up.
Kim (01:06:31):
you know or ever want to do a session with Monty?
We are always available and asyou re-listen to it you will
realize more things, like I'mgoing to tell you right now.
It's an unfolding.
When you listen to him it's notall apparent like the first go
through or even the second gothrough.
Lauren (01:06:46):
Yeah, oh, so helpful.
Thank you so much, kim.
Thanks, kim.
Thank you guys for having me.
I really appreciate it.
Frank (01:06:56):
Thank you for listening.
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