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Lauren (00:01):
Hey there, you wondrous
creatures wrapped in beautiful
moonlight.
In today's episode, we caughtup with friend of the show, Eva
Svetleva.
You might remember her fromepisode 54.
Since then, she's taken a bigleap in her work, evolving from
mindset coaching into somethingmore intuitive and energetically
guided.
We talk about what sparked thatshift, how she helps
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entrepreneurs break out of oldstories, and why authentic
growth sometimes looks less likestrategy and more like
surrender.
I'm Lauren Leon.
Frank (00:33):
I want you to know.
Lauren (00:38):
We stop it.
We are a married couplelearning how to develop our own
intuition.
And this is episode 88 ofClaire Voyaging.
Oh! Oh, we're dancing.
Frank (01:13):
Happy to come back.
Lauren (01:14):
Hello.
Frank (01:15):
How's it going?
Lauren (01:16):
Welcome in, friends.
Hey, come on over the chair.
Frank (01:20):
Mikasa is two costs.
Lauren (01:22):
Grab your beverage, grab
your french fries.
Frank (01:26):
You know what?
This is the nice time for youto come here.
Lauren (01:30):
It's the perfect time.
It's the right time.
How's everyone liking our tarotcard polls, by the way?
Frank (01:37):
Is that okay?
Lauren (01:38):
Do you like them?
Frank (01:39):
Hey, maybe a little
inconsistent.
That's okay.
Lauren (01:42):
We we realized we went
in over our heads a little bit.
We were doing two a week and wesaid, I uh we can't do this.
We can't do it.
We can't do it.
Frank (01:50):
You know what else
doesn't help?
A family stomach flu.
Lauren (01:55):
That'll do it.
Frank (01:56):
That happens sometimes.
Lauren (01:58):
That does.
Well, I hope everyone is havinga fantastic day today.
We've got a great episode.
Eva, Eva Svetleva reached outrecently and she said, Hey, you
know what?
I've changed my offerings andI'd love to come chat with you
guys.
And I said, Come, come in,sister.
Frank (02:17):
And who are we?
Who are we to say no to someonewho says, I have grown?
It's kind of like a wholething, right?
Lauren (02:24):
Yeah.
Like the whole thing isintuitive development and
alignment and authenticity.
Frank (02:32):
So also you don't just
say no to Eva.
Lauren (02:34):
You don't.
Frank (02:35):
When Eva says can I, you
say yes.
Lauren (02:37):
You say, come on,
sister.
Frank (02:39):
When Eva says, can you,
you say yes.
Lauren (02:43):
And so I'd say, open the
gate, let her out.
Frank (02:48):
Let's hit it.
We are a go for Eva, Evalaunch.
Lauren (02:51):
Enjoy Eva's Vedliva.
Eva, we're so happy to have youback.
You are just a ray of sunshine.
Look at that smiling face.
Um, okay.
So you have, you've done some,there's been some developments
since we talked to you last.
You've been working on somesome things.
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Yeah.
Let's just tell us, tell useverything.
Iva (03:16):
Oh my gosh.
Well, we'd be here for likefive days if I told you
everything.
Um, okay, so I guess if I couldsummarize it, I would say I
feel like the direction of thedirection I went in my business
is feeling so much more aligned,which is funny because last
time I was on here, I wascalling myself a soul alignment
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mentor or something like that.
But yeah, like I just, I kindof just started giving myself
more permission to do what Iwanted to because I was like
holding myself back from likesome experiences with like past
mentors who had kind of likesteered me away from like you
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know, working with certainpeople.
So I really wanted to work withentrepreneurs.
And like I just felt like everytime I would connect with other
entrepreneurs, just like reallyloved the interaction, really
loved supporting entrepreneurs.
And people say entrepreneurshipis like self-development on
steroids.
So you need like a lot of innerwork in order to really get
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through it.
And um when I started to feelthis shift in my business, where
I was like, wow, this is likeI'm creating in a way that
actually feels good.
I am focusing on platforms thatalign with the way I express.
So I'm not like forcing myselfto run against the algorithm all
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the time and having all thisresistance and like the creation
process started feeling so muchmore fun.
So I was like, I want tosupport other entrepreneurs to
do that as well.
So um I started a membershipand I'm looking for founding
members to join Everbloom forEntrepreneurs, which is all
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about basically like a space foryou to listen to yourself.
Like I'm I'm there supporting,asking the questions.
Um, but it's really aboutentrepreneurs to really have
that safe space to like tunewithin without all the outside
noise because there's so manyopinions and strategies and
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approaches out there.
And it is just so easy to getlost.
Like at one point, I felt likeI had to like try on other
people's strategies because whatI was doing wasn't working, but
then I ended up circling backaround to like, oh, I did know
what I needed to do.
I just wasn't, I hadn't foundquite figured out like the way
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to do it yet.
And so some puzzle pieces didlike fall in, but ultimately
like the way I do it is stillunique to me.
And so, yeah, authenticbusiness.
That's what I'm like reallyexcited for.
Lauren (06:07):
Oh, I love that.
That's what so is Everbloomlike a like a community thing?
Yeah, okay, that's great.
Iva (06:17):
Yeah, so um I have live
coaching calls where people can
just drop in and kind of likeoffice hours, but I'm calling
them like soul support calls.
So I would guide them toconnect to their higher self and
then ask whatever questions,get whatever clarity they want,
um, and then just really workwith them on like the creation
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process and and also I will sayum their definition of success.
Because I've also observed thatthat's like a really big thing
where we learn like successmeans like being a six-figure
entrepreneur or whatever, youknow, and then everyone's like
striving for that.
But then if people actuallyslow down and ask themselves, is
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that really what I want?
Then some of them realize, oh,that's actually not something
that I value as much.
But I had started, you know,following the crowd.
So um, yeah, and I do have umMystical Heart Collective, which
if you guys would love, um,would be interested to join, um,
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I would love to have your guys'energy in there.
That one is a completely freeum community space.
Um, so I I basically scrappedmy website.
I was like, we're done withthis because this is just a link
I keep sharing everywhere, butit felt so like everything felt
separate because like mycommunity was in Telegram,
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Heartflow, which is how I'mpodcasting right now, um, is in
was in Telegram.
And then my website wasseparate, and then social media
was all separate.
So um I got the intuitive nudgeto like just like have it all
be in one spot.
And so then I started lookingfor community-centered platforms
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and I found group app, which Ilove.
Like I'm so happy with thefunctionality and everything
that I can do in there.
Um, so yeah, so I opted for acommunity space instead of a
website, and then people arefree to share like their own
offerings, and it's just reallylike heart-led humans coming
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together on the journey, wantingto deepen their intuition and
walk together in community andlearn from each other because
that's kind of ultimately whatcommunity is.
Frank (08:34):
Let me ask you what, if
anything, initiated this change
for you in in in how things havebecome even more aligned?
Iva (08:44):
Well, you know, like, okay,
yeah.
Oh, but you guys are out inCal.
Yeah, you guys are safer.
Okay.
Frank (08:52):
So um the the code word
that everyone always uses is
plant medicine, if you like, youknow, and that like implies a
bunch of different things.
Lauren (08:59):
Yeah.
Frank (08:59):
You could be talking
about basil.
You so you took a hero dose ofbasil.
Iva (09:10):
So I took my um my hero
dose of basil.
My favorite way is uh making aNutella sandwich, actually, if
anyone is curious.
Oh wow.
Oh that is the tastiest form.
Frank (09:25):
That's funny.
Iva (09:27):
Um so uh yes, I was on a
journey out in nature, and I
just felt I I was alreadyfeeling like something was
percolating in like in general,but I it wasn't fully like there
yet.
But on this journey, I couldfeel it so much more, and it
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felt like very earthy.
It felt like the best way Icould describe it is maybe more
like shamanic.
And I played around with thatterm because I know there's like
kind of some controversy withusing a term like that.
Um, I feel like the way I was Iwould have used it was fine,
but some people had like otheropinions, and ultimately I just
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kind of was like, I don't wantto really deal with this.
Um, I'm just trying, like, Idon't know, me and titles.
We've had a long history.
Frank (10:26):
You mean just for like
the concept and the the the the
semantics of the the termshamanic and stuff like that?
Iva (10:32):
Yeah, I guess like it gives
like I don't know, I guess it
like scares people off.
Uh, because I'm like so used toall this work.
I'm like, it's just inner work.
Like at the end of the day,it's just all inner work, you
know.
Frank (10:46):
I feel like as long as
you're not storming the Capitol,
everyone's okay with it thesedays, at least in this
community.
Sorry, we we cut you off.
Yeah, what did that spark?
Iva (10:56):
Um, so it was like this
earthy shamanic energy that just
started, like it was sopresent.
And all of a sudden I realizedlike, oh, this is what has been
like kind of coming, likebubbling up.
But like it clicked that thatwas the new, like the new
approach, I guess.
(11:16):
So it kind of like was thispivoting moment of it, it wasn't
like a total rebrand, but itstarted to nudge me to kind of
evaluate and also like I don'tknow, like shift and and reflect
on the direction I was going inmy business.
(11:36):
So I still have like one-on-onework, like I call them inner
ceremonies now, where it's kindof like my signature offering.
Um, and we'll do like a littlebit of that.
We'll see like how it wants toflow.
Um, but basically I'mmulti-passionate, so I'm not
using like one specificmodality, I'm just present with
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each person.
And then in the moment, I'mlike feeling into and noticing
also like it.
Um, oh, this is the best way Ican describe it.
It's a co-creative healingjourney.
So when I'm sitting withsomeone, I'm creating it with
them.
So they're very active in theexperience.
(12:19):
And that is really importantfor me because I don't want to
be doing the healing like forthe person.
Like, I first off, like wecan't really do healing for
people, like it happens withinthem.
But I really wanted to empowerpeople to feel it for themselves
and to be like that, have thatactive role.
(12:41):
Um so yeah, it's like kind ofthat's just kind of my signature
thing.
I just flow in the moment.
I call it like the medicine ofthe moment because I never know.
Like, even if you tell me whatyour intention is, my brain
might be able to come up withlike, oh yeah, we'll do like
this like more hypnotherapyapproach, right?
(13:03):
To like drop you in and likethen we'll do, you know, we can
explore this and that and that.
But until we're like in themoment, sometimes things will
come up that I had no way ofknowing.
So that's why I've learned,like through all of the sessions
I've done with people, to justkind of also have this element
of surrender.
And I think that's so importantin our healing journey because
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we can't like control how itwill be.
And I've had healings myselfwhere I'm like, okay, we're
gonna work on this money woundstuff, and then I go in and then
I have this like expectation ofyou know what's supposed to
happen as a result, and thenthat's not how it went.
And then I had to lean intolike, how can I accept this
more?
(13:47):
Because I had really strongexpectations, and it doesn't
mean the healing wasn'tpowerful, but it was medicine of
the moment that I wasn't umlike I'm not, I wasn't always
like open to like on my journey.
Hmm.
Interesting.
Frank (14:03):
Yeah, so you're being
more you're you're leading more,
you're intuitive first now.
It's it's it seems like insteadof like trying to identify a
problem and being very logicalabout it and and then like
having a diagnosis for thatproblem, say, ah, I know just
the thing.
Here's this tool I have.
You're just you're it seemslike you're giving people space
to explore with you and and seewhat else comes up and and then
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taking it from there.
Is that a pro a goodassessment?
Iva (14:28):
I think I didn't have like
the words before to say it and
to identify like this is what'sactually happening in the space,
because I kept trying to fitwhat like other practitioners
were doing and saying today, youknow, like focus on like one
thing you're helping them with.
But then when I looked back atlike, well, you know, these are
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the sessions, and we've workedon all areas of life.
There's not a single thing thatI'm focused on.
Um, and then I would look atlike, well, what's like the
transformation?
And it's like, well, theyconnected deeper to themselves,
they received some kind ofhealing, but it was all unique,
like to them, you know, and thenI started owning that more.
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Like it's a unique healing,it's custom to you, it's what
you need in the moment.
And then that also like reallyhelped me like anchor deeper
into like, yeah, this is mysignature process.
Sorry, he's in the crate.
Frank (15:28):
Did you hear you good?
Lauren (15:30):
Yeah, you're fine.
Iva (15:31):
Oh, okay.
This microphone is awesome.
I feel like it it blocks allthat stuff out.
Frank (15:37):
So it does, it really
does, yeah.
Um that's really cool.
So it seems like you're I hateusing this word and everyone
does now because it's beenabused, but it seems like your
approach is more holistic now.
You know, I've recently learnedabout like Reiki stuff.
Um I'm I'd actually just well,yeah, I actually just opened up
I'm officially gonna be a Reikipractitioner.
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But in that process of likelearning it all, like I was
like, oh, like I I got a map oflike Japanese like body
meridians and you know how oh,you have a cramp in your foot,
and now uh I don't know, youhate broccoli.
Like there's stuff thatshouldn't be related that like
ends up being related.
And it seems like you're doingthat on an intuitive, like
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emotional level of it's likewe're gonna solve your mentality
around money.
It's like, well, you know, howdo you feel about like safety
and security and like all thisother stuff that comes and
someone might talk about theirtheir parents or their home life
or their upbringing, and thattranslates to their business and
how they operate.
Iva (16:36):
Well, it's all connected,
right?
Because like we're at the heartof our life.
So then everything that that isthat we're like interacting
with, it like our connection toourself ultimately like touches
all of that, right?
Like how we show up in ourcareer, how we show up for our
family, how we show up in ourbusiness.
(16:57):
So I guess like the thing thatI'm really passionate about that
I almost kind of feel likepeople overlook a lot is the
connection to the self.
Like that's the best way I canput it because everyone's gonna
call it different things (17:10):
higher
self, intuition, inner self,
inner voice.
Um but it's like connecting tothat and then having this
self-leadership in your life,that's kind of what my journey
was.
And then that's what supportsme now.
(17:31):
Like, so just to give you likean example, um this past the
past few weeks have been reallyrough.
Like I had mentioned, you know,like some health stuff in the
family, um, juggling a lot,feeling kind of like stretched
thin.
So I was feeling veryoverwhelmed and had like all
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these questions in my mind.
And then I was like, okay, thisweekend I'm taking some time,
gonna like sit and connect.
Um, I reached out to a friendto hold space for me who like we
would like hold space andconnect um to each other's like
higher selves, like guide thatprocess.
Um, and we would like swap.
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So like we would have time likefor her to do it, and then me,
and then we would like help eachother like that.
And we would send whatquestions we have ahead of time,
and then yeah.
So I reached out to her, I waslike, hey, I've got some stuff
I'm like really attached to, andI need like to hear from my I
call it my inner magic.
(18:34):
Um, so I I sent the questions,and then all it took was 45
minutes to just take the time tosit down, ask the questions,
and it's not even just likehearing the guidance, but it's
like feeling it in your body.
When you feel it, it'sdifferent because there's a
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resonance, and then you're soclear that the mental stories
are no longer like bouncingaround because now you're like,
no, I actually like feel thetruth within me.
So I know like this is thedirection I'm going.
And then you're clear, and thenyou have that like higher
perspective that you alreadylike looked at it from.
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So then you don't have to likeoverthink and and do all the
mind gymnastics.
And and don't get me wrong, Ilove love our minds.
I think some people in thespiritual community like to shit
talk our minds.
I never resonated with thatapproach, and I think our minds
are a great ally.
I just think that we have giventhem too much power, like, and
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too many jobs.
Like we aren't want our mind tolike do everything for us, you
know?
And um, and I think it's justnot, it's technically not
designed to do that.
Like it can do certain things,but it's not really the space to
like, like it can pull from thepast.
So anytime you're trying tolike anytime you want to do
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something new, it's not the besttool to be using because it can
only pull from what it's beenexposed to.
So naturally, when you try todo something new, it feels scary
because it's like, oh, we don'tknow what's in this territory,
so I don't know how we feelabout this.
So you need to start kind ofshowing your mind like evidence,
(20:25):
like, look, this person did itand they're still alive, living
and breathing.
We we're not gonna die if we dothis too.
I mean, unless you're liketalking about skydiving, then I
don't know, but no, that's truetoo.
Frank (20:41):
Especially that that's
also what keeps people like
back, like in terms of it's notjust the the fear of uh it's not
just the fear, it's also thelike, well, logically I've
already tried this, so why wouldI why would it work again this
time?
And it's like, well, you'rebringing something different
into it this time now.
You're you're paying attentionmore, you're seeing what you
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what you uh what you um resonatewith more and you're not so
rigid.
Lauren (21:08):
Yeah, and the stories
are pr can be really powerful in
a not great way because theykind of can just keep you from
uh doing a lot of differentthings.
Like you know, if you hadn't uhreached out to your friend,
your mind can keep you juststruggling for days and days and
(21:29):
days and days, and uh, youknow, t taking that time to
really just kind of like groundyourself and connect to your own
body and higher self is I mean,that's so it's so powerful.
Frank (21:43):
So let me ask you this.
Your before you had shiftedlike your your approach with
your with your clients, the didyou have you said you felt
something kind of bubbling up atsome point, right?
Did you have this likeunderlying discomfort that you
were like kind of like, oh, it'sreally because this happens to
me a lot too.
Um of like, oh, I suddenlysense that maybe there's the
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need for change, and that's soinconvenient that I don't want
to think about it right now.
But then, you know, a littlemaybe a little bit of basil and
a nice long walk, and andsuddenly you're like that fear
is gone, and you're like able tolike look at it dead on and
like really start making thoseadjustments.
Did you have that likeunderlying discomfort?
Iva (22:30):
Not with this one, but with
with previous situations when I
was going through changes orhad to like take certain steps
um that I knew like it was gonnabe like challenging to do,
definitely.
Yeah, mainly around like familystuff, sure like like uh moving
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out of my parents' place andmoving to like a different
state.
Um I would say that definitelyI felt more of that, but I also
didn't really have the toolsback then, you know.
Like I I wasn't connecting tomy higher self yet.
I didn't, I hadn't had like thefirst session with a
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facilitator to experience that.
Um that's why I'm so like I'mlike guys, this work is like so
important.
We need more people doing it,you know.
And it's funny because like somany entrepreneurs will say,
like, yeah, I'm just like reallypassionate about this.
And I think in my business, Iwas passionate about like the
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what, but I think the way I wasdoing it, like the approach, I
was getting mixed up with likehow other people were saying to
do it.
And and so then once I starteddoing it my way, then I was
like, oh, like it gets toactually feel like like fun to
create this and to like so Iused to have my podcast, and you
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know, like on like allplatforms, right?
Like I hosted on the Spotifyfor creators.
I wish they would have juststuck with anchor, that was so
much easier to say.
But yeah, but um, so I I usedto have the podcast there, it
still is up there if anyonewants to go check it out.
Um, but I was like, I would beout and about in my life and
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have so much like I would havelike moments where all of a
sudden like I would make aconnection, like, oh, like you
know, I didn't even realize likethis is connected to that, or
like have like a question orsomething.
Um, and I would just want tolike talk about it with someone,
right?
And so then I started justvoice recording myself, like as
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I was driving in the car whenyou know these things would drop
in.
And so then I was like, I feellike this needs to live
somewhere, like I I need to likethis is kind of basically like
a podcast, just like inliterally in the like little
micro moments of life.
And so then I got this idea forheart flow.
(25:17):
So this is like my podcast,which is in the Mystical Heart
Collective community now.
I've moved it over in there.
Um, but basically it's so greatbecause I just click record and
then I share whatever is comingthrough, and then I upload it,
and then that's it.
And there's no editing, andthen they're short, most of them
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are short and sweet.
I do have a few that are likeabout 20 minutes, but most of
them are like five to 10minutes, sometimes even less.
And so um, yeah, it I just Ifeel like there's something
really empowering about finallygiving yourself that permission
to do it your way and like askyourself those questions of,
well, what's the way I'm doingit right now?
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And why does it feel why do Ihave resistance to it?
Frank (26:05):
I keep thinking of the
one of the the things that you
know, if you subscribe to Basharand his stuff, one of the
things he always talks about iswhat's in your life's theme,
right?
Yeah, yeah, and sometimes wefind ourselves kind of pushing
things that are like you weresaying, like the your your
mentors, like you are like, oh,this is the way they do it, and
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I I should try that, right?
And and like, and then you doit and it's just not hitting
right.
Like it's not landing the wayit lands for them.
It feels very forced the wayyou're the way they do it, it
seems effortless, you do it, itseems like it's it's shitty.
And like, well, this is maybejust not part of your theme.
This thing of like you landinginto your authenticity and
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bringing that into yourpractice, and then helping other
people find that in theirs isso cool.
And also, I want to commend youtoo.
Like, you gave yourself yougave yourself a wild amount of
permission to make adjustments,even if it felt kind of
uncomfortable.
I think that's really cool.
Lauren (27:02):
Yeah, that's great.
Iva (27:04):
Thank you.
I want to like put you guys inmy pocket and take you with me
everywhere.
Lauren (27:10):
Just cheer you on.
Frank (27:12):
God, I wish I was more
pocket-sized.
Have you had any clients thatwho are like they know they
should be talking to you andlike they also are holding back
a little bit because of theirdiscomfort, or like I don't
know.
Lauren (27:29):
There's yeah, I mean,
people have like fear,
self-judgment.
Frank (27:32):
Yeah.
Have you had any people thatare like clamming up?
I'd say this is this would be asession one, hello, big badass
CEO.
Like, you're doing a great job,but you're really stressed and
you you're trying to powerthrough, everything's going the
way exactly the way you youwant, except for you're stressed
and miserable still, and youdon't want to talk to me about
how you feel.
Because you know, because youyou're not in that business.
Uh and and they're like, Idon't know, everything's fine,
(27:54):
everything's fine.
Like, did they do they have youhad anybody like that yet?
Iva (27:59):
Um, yeah, I feel like I
can, I mean, like I'm not
perfect.
I'm not gonna claim to be, butsometimes when I'm talking to
people, I'll start to feel likesubconscious stuff coming up for
them.
Like, and and then I'll askquestions to see like if they're
aware of it, and then a lot oftimes they're not, or they're or
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they'll basically theirresponse tells me like they're
not willing to go there rightnow.
So I I try to like reallyrespect that people are going to
like feel it and know whenthey're ready.
I don't want to like pushanyone, or also because like in
the before like my whole healingstuff, I would like I wanted to
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help people so bad that I wouldgive a lot of unsolicited
advice.
So I learned like through thatprocess that I I want to respect
people's decisions and theirjourney and their sovereignty
ultimately.
Um and then yeah, just trustinglike the ones that are drawn,
it's for a reason.
And um, and then with the onesthat are not ready or not
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willing to go there, um, then Ijust let them be.
And if at some point along theway like that shifts, then
great.
Or if they find like adifferent person to work with
that's support that'ssupportive.
Ultimately, I just want peopleto receive the support that they
need, whether it's with me orsomeone else.
It's not really, for me, it'snot really about like where
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they're getting the support,it's just that they're feeling
the support and they're andthey're doing the like inner
work, you know, like to have abetter life from like the inside
out.
Frank (29:41):
What are the repetitive
patterns?
What are the patterns you'reseeing in entrepreneurs that is
consistently holding them back?
Iva (29:49):
So um visibility, that was
like literally what I just
walked through this past year.
Um not knowing how to get clearon articulating or
communicating what it is you'redoing with with the world
because I also walked throughthat one.
(30:10):
Basic here, let me just thinkback to the last four years and
I'll tell you I'll tell you allthe stuff.
People pleasing showed up withpricing, wanting to give
everyone discounts, not feelinglike worthy enough to stick to
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my pricing.
What else have we movedthrough?
I think at some point too likefeeling like the ant someone had
like the golden key and theanswer.
And then after trying to listento a few different people, I
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realized like oh it's notbecause have you guys heard
these stories where likeentrepreneurs will be like I
didn't have the money to investin this coaching.
It was like 10K I felt I feltthe nudge.
So I went ahead and put it onmy credit card and then I went
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through the program and then Imade all that money back in like
a month.
Yeah.
Frank (31:21):
Oh I've heard that story.
I think I'm I'm living thatstory right now.
I'm looking at some coachingprograms and I'm like that's
expensive.
Iva (31:29):
I think the difference
because the thing is that I've
noticed there's a lot of peopleinvesting in these coaches and
programs and stuff, right?
But then I got really curiouslike what's the difference
between someone who actuallyends up make like having a shift
and a change in their businessand with themselves versus
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someone who doesn't.
And I realized it's thealignment piece.
So first you have to make sureyou're being discerning and
really picking a coach thatactually aligns for you not just
because they showed you allthese receipts of their clients
making a certain amount of moneyevery month.
And being really clear on thatbecause I've also invested in
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more on the marketing side but Iremember one particular person
I had reached out and I said heyI really need help with my
messaging and she basically justhelped me with um with my
aesthetics and like creatingvideo content.
(32:43):
So by the end of the call I waslike we didn't do anything with
my messaging and I had saidlike I really need help with
this part of my business.
So I think just being reallyclear on like what's the area
that you need help with but alsonot like not undervaluing
yourself because there's so muchlike like it's all coming from
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you right like I was having thisconversation with a friend and
she was talking about like thedifferent modalities right like
that exist which I think is sobeautiful like you know we've
got Reiki we've got inner childhealing we've got ancestral
healing like past lives you knowwhatever you name it there's we
have the whole buffet in frontof us.
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And the really beautiful thingabout that is it doesn't matter
which tool you're using whatmatters is that that tool
supports you to shift yourperspective and it gives you
like the it presents theinformation in a way that can
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support you in that moment.
I think that's the differencebetween trying a modality or
exploring something for likeyour self-discovery journey and
it landing and then sometimeslike it doesn't land.
And it's just the way that it'sbeing presented.
It's like it all comes down tothe alignment.
I think that's the differencebetween like whether something
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works or not.
I think if you're looking at itand you feel like is this oh
okay this is good.
This this was what I learned bymaking the wrong investment was
when I feel in my body likethis person is going to save me
from whatever I'm not makingenough in my business.
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I I can't get the clients umI'm struggling in this way
whatever that is fill in theblank for you and then when when
you feel like this person orthis whatever they have like is
the key like is the thing that'swhen you know you're not in
you're not going you're notchoosing it from a clear space
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but because you're putting likealso like pressure on it right
like to work and having certainexpectations and in my
experience those have alwaysbackfired.
So I would not recommend um butwhen you I don't know like for
me in my body and it could bedifferent for different people
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that's why I always say liketune in to yourself and really
practice like what does it feellike for you and to build that
discernment muscle becausethat's how you're going to be
able to identify it ultimatelybut for me when I've invested
when it has felt right and I'velooked back and been like oh
(35:37):
yeah that's like that was what Ineeded like I got like it was
like aligned and it flowedreally well it has almost kind
of felt I don't know like thebest way I can describe it is
it's almost like I'm being likespirit led like I'm still taking
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the action like it's Eva takingthe action but it's almost like
the I don't know how todescribe it.
And maybe you guys might havesome questions to help me
explain it a little more it'salmost like it's not coming from
me.
Like it's like I'm being guidedbut I'm not poss like I'm not
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possessed or anything.
Lauren (36:21):
Do you know what I mean?
Like listening yeah listeningto what what feels like the next
thing what feels like the rightthing.
Frank (36:29):
It's also just like when
it's an easy yes.
Like not when it's a not whenit's an excited like I need this
right now and then whilesomeone's telling you for a
limited time we'll take off likefive thousand yeah and then but
it's also not so challengingwhere it's like wow this is a
left turn from my current likemode of operation and it's
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giving me like a uncomfortablegut feeling.
Lauren (36:53):
Yeah.
Frank (36:53):
And you're like oh this
is this is going to be
challenging for me.
It's probably good that becausethen you're in a space of just
like accepting what other peopleare saying, right?
Lauren (37:00):
It's like giving your
own power away.
Frank (37:01):
Yeah.
It's an improv you're lookingfor things that are a yes and
you know it's a oh yeah you'redoing it the right way and try
this too on top of it.
You're that way you're likekind of modality stacking.
Like that's yeah.
I think a lot of times just inin general in life when people
aren't finding things that arealigning with them they're
looking for those two things.
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They're looking for the thingthat's okay what's the 180
opposite of what I'm doing rightnow.
Because if what I'm doing rightnow isn't working it must be
the exact opposite and that's soextreme you find yourself in
the same problem once you getcomfortable to that new
direction.
Lauren (37:34):
And then you know just
fucking car dealerships they're
like oh the best I could do foryou is this and you're like oh
man I don't feel good about anyof this you know last time we
talked to Eva we had a wholething about a car oh my god
that's right I was wondering isthat still linger no it's not
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she did like a mini healingexample too and you were you
were talking about I think it'son our Patreon that we left that
clip out but it was uh about apower move of like a car dealer.
Frank (38:09):
I just always feel like
you know it's because we're
talking about people that arelike putting you in an
uncomfortable sales positionwhere you feel like you you and
like that's what car that's likethe cornerstone of of of like
hard hard sales right it'salways like oh you know you're
giving them too much moneyalready but they're also acting
like you're doing they're doingyou a favor.
(38:31):
And it's like what what is thisun I'm trying I'm going for
like healing and like um youknow doing some self-work here.
Why do I also have to have thisreally uncomfortable
negotiation on top of it thatthat makes it it kind of taints
the entire thing in like somelike uncomfortable unnecessary
capitalism in the space of ofhealing or in the space of like
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modalities you know what I mean?
So that's sometimes anuncomfortable challenge on top
of the the work that's alreadycoming.
So yeah I get that cardealerships man.
I don't know if that maybe Ispoke over your point.
Iva (39:10):
No I I think that was good.
Frank (39:13):
It wasn't good.
It's okay dude thank you somuch for spending time with us
today.
Lauren (39:17):
Thank you for coming
back and also I just want to say
like I can see the the like theevolution and the growth since
we talked to you which I feellike was about a year ago and I
think that's really cool.
It's cool to watch someoneevolve and kind of shift what
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they're doing because it feelsmore like aligned to them and
their their heart and soul.
So I see that.
Frank (39:47):
And we always talk about
like permission to grow and like
you have to you have to be inthat space.
And you know if you don't giveyourself permission to grow it's
going to turn into like aharder lesson down the road and
it seems like you're doing sucha good job in integrating these
newer lessons and so you're abadass now.
Iva (40:05):
Thank you.
You guys are as well I lovehearing all your updates and the
ways that you guys are growingas well.
It's so nice to reconnect.
Frank (40:14):
Eva if you don't mind
tell everybody where they can
find you all your plugs all thatstuff.
Iva (40:19):
Okay so um I'll have links
up shared with Lauren on my
social media um the ones thatI'm most active on right now are
Threads and YouTube and it'sthe same username handle.
So it's Eva of the heart and umand then I would love to invite
you and your listeners to theMystical Heart Collective.
(40:41):
That's my free online communitywhere heart led humans are
gathering to support one anotherto share our gifts and um yeah
just it's kind of a crazy timeright now in the world and I
think we need more communitymore than ever before.
So we already have some peoplefrom all over the world.
So it is a global community andit's really exciting and uh
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we'll have monthly gatherings umfor true connection and um and
support.
So would love to see you allthere and then I'll also have
links for ways to work with meone-on-one down below as well.
Frank (41:21):
All right Yeah you have a
great rest of your day and uh
we'll talk to you soon.
Yeah sounds good you guys aswell thank you for listening
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