November 20, 2025 • 32 mins
For part 2 with Human Design expert Lauren Noble, we unpack the six foundational lines and how they combine into the twelve profiles that shape purpose, relationships, and the way your energy actually wants to move through the world. If you’ve ever wondered why research soothes you, why alone time turns on your genius, or why people project their fantasies onto you, this conversation gives you a clear map and practical next steps.
We break down conscious versus unconscious lines and why your Sun and Earth placements anchor most of your energetic expression. Lauren walks us through each line with real, lived examples. Along the way, we explore karmic tracks and how profile dynamics show up in families, work, and love.
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Frank (00:21):
Key pasa, psychic bandidos.
Today we're jumping right intopart two of our human design
series.
We're continuing our discussionwith Lorne Noble, where we dig
a little deeper intofoundational concepts, and I
continue to have my mind blown.
This is episode 93 of ClaireVoyaging.
Lauren L (00:44):
Wayfeather Media presents Claire Voyaging.
Lauren N (01:06):
Your profile is like your archetype.
That's the role that you'rehere to play in life.
Um, and then your incarnationcross, that's your purpose that
just plays out whether you wantit to or not.
Lauren L (01:18):
Can you explain what is the profile?
You said it's an archetype forwho you are.
How many it's like based onlines?
That's what everyone says.
Like, oh, you're you're a fifthline, you're a third line,
whatever.
Can you explain that?
Yeah.
Lauren N (01:34):
Yeah.
So um every gate that you have,which is um you look at the
nine centers, and there's theselittle like lines or gates that
stick off of them.
So um every single one that isdefined, every gate is um or
colored in, whether you have thecenter colored in or not, it is
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in a line.
And so that is the theme orlike the color of how the energy
of that gate is going to be umplaying out in your life.
And so when you talk about theprofile, you're looking at the
sun and the earth.
So human design, it marries thesoul, which is your
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personality, the moment that youare born, and then 88 days from
that, that is your body, thatis your life purpose.
It marries the two together.
So it's not just, you know, whoyou were before you came here,
but it's like who, who you it'slike it, it's the roadmap of the
life that you came here tolive.
(02:40):
And your sun and earth, andboth the personality and the
design, makes up about 70% ofyour energy.
And so the lines that thosegates are in make up so much of
your energy that it gets lumpedinto this profile to say, to
essentially be like, this isyour role that you're here to
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play.
And most people have most ofthe lines, and so you're gonna
have certain aspects that youresonate to, but the
overwhelming theme and archetypeis your profile, the sun and
the earth, and those lines.
Lauren L (03:16):
How many different lines or how many different
combinations are there?
Lauren N (03:21):
Um, so all of the combinations, so it's lines one
through six, and um it there'stwo lines.
So one is going to beconscious, the first one, and
the second one is unconscious.
Um, and I can't think of thenumber off my head, but I can go
through all of them and countthem.
But so it's one three, one,four, two, four, two, five,
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three, five, three, six, four,one, four, six, five, one, five,
two, six two, six three.
So twelve.
Lauren L (03:56):
Oh wow.
Okay.
Frank (03:59):
It's pretty good for not having a photographic memory, by
the way.
Lauren L (04:04):
She doesn't forget anything about human design.
So, like you you know if yousee, like you were saying, like
a one in someone's profile.
Does it matter?
Okay, so you said sub, what didyou say?
Unconscious or conscious?
Unconscious.
(04:26):
So is that right?
Yes.
Okay.
Lauren N (04:29):
Yeah.
So the conscious is what you'regonna be more aware of.
Unconscious, that's the onewhere you're you could be like,
I don't know, like if that's me,or like, yeah, I could see
that, but it's not gonna bewhat's in your forefront because
it's not what your mind isfocusing on.
Uh, the personality, that isyour mind.
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That's what you are consciousto.
That is like your astrologychart.
Um, it's just the um theunconscious is what naturally
plays out, whether you want itto or not.
Lauren L (05:00):
So for example, I'm a three-five.
Is one of those numbersconscious?
Lauren N (05:07):
Yes.
So the first one, the three iswhat's conscious.
Okay.
And then the five isunconscious.
And so um, like, well, I I cango over each of the lines.
Um, I was gonna go off on likethe fifth line, but uh, I can go
over like each of them if youwould like me to.
Frank (05:28):
As long as it's not too tedious.
Lauren N (05:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I will I live for this.
And then so Frank, you're a1-4.
Um, and then Lauren, you're athree-five.
So the first line is theinvestigator, they are all about
security, a stable foundation.
There can be this um uhinferiority complex where you
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like never feel like you'reready.
The foundation is never secureenough.
Um, but you really feel safeand secure the more that you're
researching stuff.
And like when it comes torelationships, you need to be
able to take the time to build afoundation with somebody or
else you're gonna feel insecure.
And sometimes the insecuritymight still come to play because
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the first line, you are like inthe basement, you are setting
the foundation, making sure thatthe house is not gonna go
anywhere, and you are meant tolook for the cracks everywhere.
And so anywhere you see acrack, you're like, uh-oh, we
gotta fix this.
And so you're you know,repairing all of them, and uh,
(06:35):
you're really here to set thetone of I learned all of this
information, and this is what weneed to do because of that.
So investigating is the firstline.
Lauren L (06:48):
Yeah, very helpful to have someone like that around.
Frank (06:52):
That's nice to hear.
Yeah, thank you, Laura.
Lauren N (06:56):
Okay, and then what's the second two?
So the second line is thehermit.
So while the first line is, youknow, in the basement, in the
dark, the second line is thefirst floor, and you're living
in it's like living in a housewith all windows.
So they are the hermit.
They need alone time, time torecharge, and they're also known
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as the natural because theyjust kind of know how to do
stuff and they're naturally goodat stuff and they don't know
why.
Um, and so Ra, the founder,says second lines, they just
kind of are doing their ownthing and they don't realize
that they're good at it oranything special about it.
And then somebody knocks on thedoor and they're like, Hey, I
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was watching you in your house,and I noticed that you were
doing this thing, and it's likereally cool, and they can feel
so exposed, like, oh, you arewatching me, like you see me.
Because they are this hermit,they can just get so caught up
in their own trip and not reallyrealize, like, oh, other people
are observing you too.
And so for second lines, whilethe first line is here to
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research, the second line ishere to be naturally good at
things.
So the things that they aregood at and they don't realize
why they're good at it, thoseare great indicators of
directions to go into thingsthat you are here to master and
put you towards your purpose.
Um, and then with the secondline, knowing when to recharge
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and hermit out because they needthat.
Lauren L (08:28):
I have our I have like if you just see us looking
down, it's because I have ourfamily's charts up here.
Um so this is reallyinteresting because our daughter
is a two for a two-four.
So like, yeah, that just kindof naturally being being good at
stuff.
Okay, sorry.
Lauren N (08:49):
Oh, so you have a two-four and a five-one.
Those profiles are likeopposite each other.
Frank (08:54):
Oh yeah, we know.
Lauren N (08:55):
You said your other child's a five one, right?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
So um yeah, so they are likethey can be like best friends or
they can be like completeopposite, like arch nemesis.
Lauren L (09:08):
They are best friends, but also like so different.
She's also like a Capricorn,he's Aquarius, but they get
deeply tired of each other.
Yeah.
Frank (09:17):
Or I should say, yeah, I should say R5-1 gets so sick of
her shit.
Lauren L (09:23):
He wants to just like sock her.
And she's like, I don'tunderstand.
I'm like, let leave him alone.
Okay, that's awesome.
Yeah.
Um, this is so good.
Okay.
Lauren N (09:37):
Okay, three.
So the third line, yes.
So the third line is like thestaircase that's going from the
first floor to the second floor.
And so they are the only liketransitional line.
They are here to mutate, theyare here to learn through
mistakes and then share thosemistakes with others because
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they figure out what works andwhat doesn't work.
So a big thing with third linesis that they can carry so much
shame for making mistakes andend up becoming so pessimistic
about life or pessimistic aboutthemselves instead of realizing
that every mistake that theymake is just them gaining
wisdom.
And third lines are especiallyresilient because we are meant
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to make mistakes.
And so when we do, so it's it'sprobably most of the time never
gonna be a mistake that is sobad that you can't bounce back
from it.
Um, any mistake that we make isjust there to help guide us,
and the third line is reallyhere to master the material
plane, so to make money, um,because they are so good at
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figuring out what works and whatdoesn't.
Um, and then with third lines,that's also about like bonds
made and broken.
And so if you are doingsomething for too long or you're
with somebody for too long, itcan be like, I need a break, I
need space.
And you can even pick uphobbies and drop them and come
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back to them.
And so allowing yourself thepermission to pause bonds and to
realize that you can pausebonds without like burning the
whole bond down to the ground.
That's kind of a shadow forthird lines is um like not
allowing yourself to take spacewhen you need to take it, and
then it builds and builds, andyou're like, I am done with this
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bond.
I never want to come back toit, and you want to burn it all
to the ground, and then youcircle back and you're like,
maybe actually I do want to comeback to this.
Lauren L (11:42):
I just needed a drive by myself for an hour and a
half.
Frank (11:47):
I actually don't see you like fully burning down bonds
like that.
Lauren L (11:50):
No, I don't do that.
Frank (11:52):
I I you do have issues with not taking up space.
Lauren L (11:55):
I have issues with not taking uh a break from from
things where I go like and thenI just like have like crash out
and I'm like, I need I need tobe away from everybody.
Frank (12:07):
And like that's true.
Lauren L (12:08):
Yeah, and I go, Oh, I've had some space.
I sat on the beach for a fewminutes and I feel great.
Frank (12:14):
Another thing with her three is I'm wondering if
because sometimes she uh isthere a thing where like threes
uh can be so afraid of their owntrial and error methods that
they get like scared intoinaction.
Lauren N (12:28):
Yes.
Oh, totally.
And that goes with thatpessimism too of like nothing
works, everything is broken, nomatter what I do, it it won't
matter.
And you can get that pessimismcan really stack up on top of
you.
Frank (12:42):
Yeah, yeah.
Lauren L (12:44):
When I'm not doing when I'm not doing so well, that
is my inner monologue for sure,or my my outer to Frank, where
I'm just like weepy and like whocares?
No one cares.
Frank (12:56):
No, sometimes I'm like, what's what's going on here?
Lauren L (13:01):
I'm so deeply pessimistic, and I come from
like a hope, a hope place, andbut boy, oh boy, I have my days.
Lauren N (13:09):
Yeah, and that's okay.
I mean, that's part of thethird line process, is that
sometimes like like you can putso much energy into something
and then it breaks, and you'relike, what?
I just put all of this energyinto this thing and it's not
working, like everything iswrong.
And it's just important toallow yourself to feel those
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things, you know, feel thepessimism, and you don't have to
hold on to it forever, but youcan feel it and then process it.
And then when you're ready, youcan be like, all right, well,
I'm ready to throw myself intothe void again.
Let's do it.
Yeah, yeah.
Fourth line.
So the fourth line is um, thisis like the networker, and they
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so this is you, Frank, where itis so important for you to
establish and maintainfriendships and bonds with
people.
And you really get your bestopportunities through the people
around you.
And the thing with fourth linesis that you kind of see the
world and the people around youas confidence or not, people
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that you trust or not.
And people can really disarmthemselves around you and really
trust you and feel like, oh,you're somebody who is safe for
me to confide in.
Um, and so the fourth line, itis the networker.
You're here to um to notpigeonhold yourself into like
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one relationship, but to giveand put your energy into many
because the more diverse yourfriend group is, which it might
not be super diverse as aone-four, um, but that is going
to give you your bestopportunities in life.
Lauren L (14:52):
Huh.
Yeah.
You've gotten opportunitiesfrom network.
Frank (14:57):
The way I prefer to be in relationship in relationships
is some kind of project-based,even if that project is
voluntary.
I love like I love meetingpeople in the in the context of
working on something together.
And so, yeah, like the majorityof the things that end up
happening for me, it's like likeI I I met I met Lauren from
being in a band, right?
(15:18):
Like, that's how we met.
Lauren L (15:19):
Yeah.
Frank (15:20):
Um, like one of my best friends.
I met him like at work.
We were doing work stufftogether, and then we started
doing outside of work stufftogether on other projects, and
that's the context.
And yeah, actually, and then myand then our drummer is like
one of my other best friends.
We're not playing music thesedays, but it's always been it's
always been in the context of anetwork, a project-based
networks.
Lauren N (15:39):
Totally.
Well, and when you talk tofourth lines about dating, so
often they find somebody throughtheir network, like through a
mutual friend, or like you weresaying, like through a hobby,
and then you met Lauren.
It's like the people around youare kind of how things come and
find you.
Frank (15:57):
Very true.
I probably need a biggernetwork, to be honest.
Lauren N (16:00):
So um, there are three different types of like life
path karmas in human design.
So um four, six through theone, three are all um
transpersonal karma, where youare here gathering karma in this
life and playing it out as yougo.
But the five-one to thesix-three, they are here playing
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out karma from other livesthrough other people.
And so they can like, so forexample, my husband's a five-one
and he can like do stuff thatlike doesn't have like the same
kind of karmic likerepercussions, you know, um, as
like I would do.
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Like, I can be very paranoid,like, oh my gosh, like I could
not do that because of karma,and he's just like doesn't care.
Not like in an asshole way, butjust like it doesn't his
actions don't affect him as muchas the actions of the people
around him.
But then four ones are here fora fixed fate.
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So they aren't really hereplaying out karma in this life
or karma from other lives, butthey are here on their own path.
And either people jump on boardor they don't, but they're just
blazing through.
And it's not as um uh itdoesn't it doesn't matter as
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much like their externalcircumstances because like they
are locked in, and basicallywhat's going to happen is what's
going to happen.
And if you're with a 4-1, youessentially are kind of like
surrendering to their life pathand going along with it or not.
Frank (17:46):
Holy shit.
That's crazy.
Wow, okay, and that's the onethat's like that.
Lauren N (17:55):
The only profile, yeah, is the only one with fixed
fate.
So it's like no matter how goodof a person or how shitty of a
person, fate is fixed no matterwhat.
Lauren L (18:06):
Oh that is so interesting.
Lauren N (18:10):
Okay.
So five is the heretic or thesavior.
So the five is so interestingbecause nobody sees them
clearly, they are a completemirror for other people, and
people are going to see them inrelation to how they see
themselves and um how they Iguess want to see the other
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person.
And so there's this theme ofthe fifth line does really well
with strangers becauseoftentimes people will meet you
and they'll be like, wow, thisperson is amazing! Like, this is
so awesome.
And then the more they get toknow you and they start to have
that projection broken down,then they're like, Wow, I never
knew you.
Like, this is you're not theperson I thought you were.
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Um, and then they want to burnyou at the stake for it.
Um, and I mean, I'm alsomarried to a fifth line, and
it's like, even with theawareness of human design, there
are times where it's like, Iwant to burn him at the stake
for making assumptions or likehaving expectations in my mind
that I didn't voice that hedidn't like fulfill in the way
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that I thought he would.
So the thing with fifth linesis that they are great fixers
because they see things thatother people don't see.
They are here to universalize,and they can call trends or they
can call things before ithappens because they're like,
uh, I think that this is like,you know, like for example, uh,
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I watched a South Park episodeand it was about woke culture
being dead.
And so a fifth line could belike, woke, woke culture culture
is dying, and then people wantto burn them for it.
Because they're like, how dareyou say that?
But as soon as a fourth linelocks onto that and they put it
through their network andnormalize it, then they're like,
Whoa, the fifth line was sosmart, and they caught this
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before.
So the fifth line is reallyhere to um universalize the
things that they're seeing andexperiencing.
And something I say for fifthlines is over-communicate if you
can.
Because when people, if there'slike a little micro projection,
if you don't like nip it in thebutt right away, that
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projection is going to grow andgrow.
Um, and so really state your uhwhat you're able to do and what
you are not able to do, um,because unmet expectations are
like the Achilles heel for fifthlines.
And a lot of times it's likepeople don't even realize that
they're projecting onto you.
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And so just being really clearwith your boundaries, like I can
do this, I can't do that.
So, like, for example, if youhave somebody who is coming to
you and they are like, I needyou to fix this thing for me,
but you know that you do nothave the space or the time for
it, just instead of like beinglike, Okay, I'll just do this
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because I don't want you to burnme for it, to really state and
reinforce those boundaries.
Um then with and then withfifth lines, there can be this
paranoia and this like fear ofreally speaking up and sharing
your truth because you're soused to people, like they either
love it or they hate you forit, and it can condition you to
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like be paranoid and to expectthat people are gonna react
poorly to you.
Frank (21:35):
Oh man, that was my question.
I was gonna say, if you're afifth line and there's not a lot
of people who want to burn youat the stake, is that because
you're not being fifth lineenough?
Lauren N (21:48):
Well, but the thing is, as a three-five, people like
generally really love threefives because you have this
humanness about you.
Like the third line can be solike funny and charismatic, and
you're like, I'm not perfect,look at me.
And so there is, I feel likethis exception to the rule with
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the three five, but it's stillyou're still gonna have those
people that are coming back andthey're like, wait a minute.
But like, for example, DianaPrincess of Wales was a
three-five, like people lovedher.
Frank (22:22):
Oh yeah.
Lauren N (22:23):
Um, but then it's like when they got divorced, um,
people really hated her when shestarted to like share her truth
too.
Oh man.
Frank (22:32):
Oh no, that's such a good example.
She's a great example, yeah.
Lauren L (22:35):
That's so uh yeah, that's really interesting
because there's sometimes whereI'm like, I thought I was
friends with this person.
They just never called me againor something.
And I'm like, what the hell?
And I don't think it's thatlike they stopped liking me, but
maybe I'm maybe there's somepeople that I reflect back
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something to them that they'reseeing that they don't like
about themselves or something.
Lauren N (23:02):
Yeah, for sure.
The fifth line has a very theyRa says it's like a seductive
aura.
People like really they see youhow they want to see you.
And so if they have somethinginside that they don't like and
they see you, they are going toproject that onto you because it
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gives them an excuse from notlooking at that within
themselves.
So when somebody is wanting toburn a fifth line for something,
I'm always like, what is itinside of you that you want to
burn yourself for?
And instead of takingaccountability, you're putting
it on to this person becausethey are a mirror to you and
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they're really just showing youa shadow aspect of yourself.
Lauren L (23:48):
Yeah, yeah.
Frank (23:49):
How about that?
That tracks.
That does track.
Interesting.
Lauren N (23:55):
And sixth line.
Yeah, so they they experiencelife in three phases.
So the first 30 years of theirlife is this third line theme
where they're trial and erring,they're learning things the hard
way, but they're not asresilient as third lines.
Like third lines, we're kind ofmeant to be beaten down and
take it and like it makes usstronger.
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Um, but sixth lines, theyaren't like that.
And so when they get to theirSaturn return, it's like they
want to get out of society,they're done trial and erroring,
and they go up onto the roof,and they're like, I'm just gonna
watch everything from adistance, and they become very
aloof and like kind of unawareof and not wanting to be aware
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of everything going on aroundthem.
And then after they're um,after age 50, they um come down.
Sorry, I think it's actuallyage 60.
Um, they come down off of theroof and they're like, okay,
these are the lessons that Ilearned, and then they're here
to really embody this rolemodel.
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But the thing with six lines isthat they're either a role
model of what you should do or arole model of what you
shouldn't do.
And so there's kind of thesetwo ends of the coin.
Um, but they're essentiallythey're just here to be wise and
to learn from their trial anderroring.
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Um, and they either do or theydon't.
And you said by uh Saturnreturns, and that is a So Saturn
return is typically around likeage 30, around there.
So, but there is this like asthey are going onto the roof, it
takes them a while.
It's not just this immediatealoof, I am, you know,
disappearing.
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There are gonna be, there'sgonna be several years where
they are coming down and they'retrial and erring, and then
they're like, wow, this sucks.
I'm gonna go back onto theroof.
But then eventually there isthis like detachment and
aloofness where they're like,I'm just gonna focus on me.
And so that's when a lot oftimes six lines like have
families, or they just theydon't want to keep being like in
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society the way that they werebefore.
It's like they have to licktheir wounds, integrate their
lessons, and then show upstronger and better for it when
they're ready.
And that is um, so it's aftertheir Uranus opposition, which
is the four uh around like age42, and I'm like, oh, I have
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this photographic memory.
But I totally I'm spacing on umif it's 50 or 60, where they
come off of the roof, it mightbe I think their 60s.
Um, I think it's their secondSaturn return is when they come
back down.
So, like for a full 30-yearcycle, they're like, I'm, you
know, I am not a part of this,and then they integrate and they
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live this life that'sseparated, also that they can
come down and be the role modelthat they're supposed to be.
Frank (26:56):
Huh.
This is amazing.
I feel like I mean, obviously,the the wealth of information
that you're providing us isincredible, and also it goes so
much deeper.
But do you feel like this is agood, like for someone who's
just getting into it, like thisis the the the basics?
Because I assume that fromhere, like you know, with the
the profiles, then you haveprofile combinations and that
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presents in whole differentkinds of ways.
But is this like is this likethe good foundation?
Lauren N (27:25):
Yeah, I believe so.
Because if you know your energytype, then you know how to get
onto your path.
And then knowing your profile,that just helps you to really
embody and to not shame yourselffor who you are, you know, like
as a first line.
If you know your first line andyou're prone to insecurity,
that's okay.
That just means research more,investigate more.
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As a fifth line, if you knowpeople are gonna project onto
you, that's okay.
You can expect that, you know.
So it is like it's giving youthis framework of like giving
you permission of how of to beyourself and kind of showing you
how to be yourself.
But there are so many layers ofhuman design.
We could go really deep intoit.
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Yeah.
But I mean, then it's likedrinking from a fire hose, you
know?
Yeah.
And it's really human design.
It's like Raw says, you know,it's not just me giving you
information, it's me telling youways that you can experiment
with the system and make it yourown and see it for yourself.
It's like, don't trust me,don't take my word for it.
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Experiment with it.
It's really meant to beexperimented and just see what
happens, see if you get moreease into your life or not.
Frank (28:38):
Yeah, and after all is said and done, it's so
interesting.
The reason why, you know,there's no shortage of people
developing like interestingwoo-woo systems out there of
like, oh, here's what here's Iknow who you are.
It's this.
Here's the secret secretequation.
But there's something insanelyintuitive about this system.
I mean, not uh initiallyintuitive because there's charts
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and numbers and all this stuffall over the place.
But once you get in it, you'relike, oh my god, that makes so
much sense.
And it like kind kind ofteaches you how to uh how to
interface with the world uh in away that like feels correct.
And um it's it's really if itif it didn't make so much sense,
it wouldn't make any sense.
Lauren L (29:23):
Frank's starting to like we were following our
digestion specifically, and likeFrank was like, this works so
well for my body.
Frank (29:31):
Oh, for my digestion thing, we can't get into it now,
but for mine, if I don't followit, it is it it is it's
devastating for me.
Lauren N (29:40):
Yeah.
Consecutive, yeah.
Frank (29:43):
Yeah.
Lauren N (29:43):
Yeah.
Well, and you'll find that sothe one through six is the
foundation for like the wholesystem.
So like um digestion,digestion, it's six.
So consecutive is first linefoundation.
So it's the most primitive.
It's like the most, if you donot do this and have this solid
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foundation of this consecutivething, then like everything goes
amok.
Whereas like hot thirst, that'sa third line theme.
And so you can like trial anderror, it's not going to affect
you as much as a consecutivehour.
Appetite does.
Lauren L (30:21):
Oh, that's so interesting.
I didn't I didn't even thinkabout that being connected.
Frank (30:26):
No.
Lauren L (30:27):
Oh.
Rah.
Frank (30:29):
You did it again, Roma.
Lauren L (30:33):
Oh my gosh.
Okay.
We've kept you so far past thehour we said.
Frank (30:39):
Yeah.
Lauren L (30:39):
We're like, we keep things to an hour.
Yeah.
We are liars.
Frank (30:43):
Lauren, uh tell everybody where to find you and where
they can like book yourservices.
Lauren L (30:48):
Yeah.
Lauren N (30:49):
Yeah.
So I am my website isnoblealignment.com.
And um as I was like fillingout the questionnaire for you
guys, I had like differenthandles for everything.
I was like, this is soconfusing.
So I changed everything todayto just Noble Alignment.
So that's awesome.
TikTok, Substack, Instagram,making it as simple as possible.
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But I offer sessions, soindividual couples, parents.
Um yeah, and also I do uh Ioffer audio recordings.
So if you have a question, youcan fill out the questionnaire
and I can send you within 48hours like a 10 to 20 minute
audio spiff going over yourchart and like the specific area
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of advice that you're needing.
Frank (31:32):
Wait, that's like an introverts dream.
That's a fantastic idea.
Lauren L (31:35):
Yeah, that's amazing.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, well, you've been anabsolute joy to talk to, and
thank you for spending so muchtime with us, spending like so
so much explanation, and it'sjust it feels effortless from
you because you've like done somuch work, but thank you.
(31:57):
Thank you.
Lauren N (31:58):
Yeah, thank you so much for having me.
It was so great plugging intoyou guys.
I feel satisfied.
Yeah, and thank you forlistening.
Frank (32:13):
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Key pasa, psychic bandidos.
Today we're jumping right intopart two of our human design
series.
We're continuing our discussionwith Lorne Noble, where we dig
a little deeper intofoundational concepts, and I
continue to have my mind blown.
This is episode 93 of ClaireVoyaging.
Lauren L (00:44):
Wayfeather Media presents Claire Voyaging.
Lauren N (01:06):
Your profile is like your archetype.
That's the role that you'rehere to play in life.
Um, and then your incarnationcross, that's your purpose that
just plays out whether you wantit to or not.
Lauren L (01:18):
Can you explain what is the profile?
You said it's an archetype forwho you are.
How many it's like based onlines?
That's what everyone says.
Like, oh, you're you're a fifthline, you're a third line,
whatever.
Can you explain that?
Yeah.
Lauren N (01:34):
Yeah.
So um every gate that you have,which is um you look at the
nine centers, and there's theselittle like lines or gates that
stick off of them.
So um every single one that isdefined, every gate is um or
colored in, whether you have thecenter colored in or not, it is
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in a line.
And so that is the theme orlike the color of how the energy
of that gate is going to be umplaying out in your life.
And so when you talk about theprofile, you're looking at the
sun and the earth.
So human design, it marries thesoul, which is your
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personality, the moment that youare born, and then 88 days from
that, that is your body, thatis your life purpose.
It marries the two together.
So it's not just, you know, whoyou were before you came here,
but it's like who, who you it'slike it, it's the roadmap of the
life that you came here tolive.
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And your sun and earth, andboth the personality and the
design, makes up about 70% ofyour energy.
And so the lines that thosegates are in make up so much of
your energy that it gets lumpedinto this profile to say, to
essentially be like, this isyour role that you're here to
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play.
And most people have most ofthe lines, and so you're gonna
have certain aspects that youresonate to, but the
overwhelming theme and archetypeis your profile, the sun and
the earth, and those lines.
Lauren L (03:16):
How many different lines or how many different
combinations are there?
Lauren N (03:21):
Um, so all of the combinations, so it's lines one
through six, and um it there'stwo lines.
So one is going to beconscious, the first one, and
the second one is unconscious.
Um, and I can't think of thenumber off my head, but I can go
through all of them and countthem.
But so it's one three, one,four, two, four, two, five,
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three, five, three, six, four,one, four, six, five, one, five,
two, six two, six three.
So twelve.
Lauren L (03:56):
Oh wow.
Okay.
Frank (03:59):
It's pretty good for not having a photographic memory, by
the way.
Lauren L (04:04):
She doesn't forget anything about human design.
So, like you you know if yousee, like you were saying, like
a one in someone's profile.
Does it matter?
Okay, so you said sub, what didyou say?
Unconscious or conscious?
Unconscious.
(04:26):
So is that right?
Yes.
Okay.
Lauren N (04:29):
Yeah.
So the conscious is what you'regonna be more aware of.
Unconscious, that's the onewhere you're you could be like,
I don't know, like if that's me,or like, yeah, I could see
that, but it's not gonna bewhat's in your forefront because
it's not what your mind isfocusing on.
Uh, the personality, that isyour mind.
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That's what you are consciousto.
That is like your astrologychart.
Um, it's just the um theunconscious is what naturally
plays out, whether you want itto or not.
Lauren L (05:00):
So for example, I'm a three-five.
Is one of those numbersconscious?
Lauren N (05:07):
Yes.
So the first one, the three iswhat's conscious.
Okay.
And then the five isunconscious.
And so um, like, well, I I cango over each of the lines.
Um, I was gonna go off on likethe fifth line, but uh, I can go
over like each of them if youwould like me to.
Frank (05:28):
As long as it's not too tedious.
Lauren N (05:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I will I live for this.
And then so Frank, you're a1-4.
Um, and then Lauren, you're athree-five.
So the first line is theinvestigator, they are all about
security, a stable foundation.
There can be this um uhinferiority complex where you
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like never feel like you'reready.
The foundation is never secureenough.
Um, but you really feel safeand secure the more that you're
researching stuff.
And like when it comes torelationships, you need to be
able to take the time to build afoundation with somebody or
else you're gonna feel insecure.
And sometimes the insecuritymight still come to play because
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the first line, you are like inthe basement, you are setting
the foundation, making sure thatthe house is not gonna go
anywhere, and you are meant tolook for the cracks everywhere.
And so anywhere you see acrack, you're like, uh-oh, we
gotta fix this.
And so you're you know,repairing all of them, and uh,
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you're really here to set thetone of I learned all of this
information, and this is what weneed to do because of that.
So investigating is the firstline.
Lauren L (06:48):
Yeah, very helpful to have someone like that around.
Frank (06:52):
That's nice to hear.
Yeah, thank you, Laura.
Lauren N (06:56):
Okay, and then what's the second two?
So the second line is thehermit.
So while the first line is, youknow, in the basement, in the
dark, the second line is thefirst floor, and you're living
in it's like living in a housewith all windows.
So they are the hermit.
They need alone time, time torecharge, and they're also known
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as the natural because theyjust kind of know how to do
stuff and they're naturally goodat stuff and they don't know
why.
Um, and so Ra, the founder,says second lines, they just
kind of are doing their ownthing and they don't realize
that they're good at it oranything special about it.
And then somebody knocks on thedoor and they're like, Hey, I
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was watching you in your house,and I noticed that you were
doing this thing, and it's likereally cool, and they can feel
so exposed, like, oh, you arewatching me, like you see me.
Because they are this hermit,they can just get so caught up
in their own trip and not reallyrealize, like, oh, other people
are observing you too.
And so for second lines, whilethe first line is here to
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research, the second line ishere to be naturally good at
things.
So the things that they aregood at and they don't realize
why they're good at it, thoseare great indicators of
directions to go into thingsthat you are here to master and
put you towards your purpose.
Um, and then with the secondline, knowing when to recharge
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and hermit out because they needthat.
Lauren L (08:28):
I have our I have like if you just see us looking
down, it's because I have ourfamily's charts up here.
Um so this is reallyinteresting because our daughter
is a two for a two-four.
So like, yeah, that just kindof naturally being being good at
stuff.
Okay, sorry.
Lauren N (08:49):
Oh, so you have a two-four and a five-one.
Those profiles are likeopposite each other.
Frank (08:54):
Oh yeah, we know.
Lauren N (08:55):
You said your other child's a five one, right?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
So um yeah, so they are likethey can be like best friends or
they can be like completeopposite, like arch nemesis.
Lauren L (09:08):
They are best friends, but also like so different.
She's also like a Capricorn,he's Aquarius, but they get
deeply tired of each other.
Yeah.
Frank (09:17):
Or I should say, yeah, I should say R5-1 gets so sick of
her shit.
Lauren L (09:23):
He wants to just like sock her.
And she's like, I don'tunderstand.
I'm like, let leave him alone.
Okay, that's awesome.
Yeah.
Um, this is so good.
Okay.
Lauren N (09:37):
Okay, three.
So the third line, yes.
So the third line is like thestaircase that's going from the
first floor to the second floor.
And so they are the only liketransitional line.
They are here to mutate, theyare here to learn through
mistakes and then share thosemistakes with others because
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they figure out what works andwhat doesn't work.
So a big thing with third linesis that they can carry so much
shame for making mistakes andend up becoming so pessimistic
about life or pessimistic aboutthemselves instead of realizing
that every mistake that theymake is just them gaining
wisdom.
And third lines are especiallyresilient because we are meant
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to make mistakes.
And so when we do, so it's it'sprobably most of the time never
gonna be a mistake that is sobad that you can't bounce back
from it.
Um, any mistake that we make isjust there to help guide us,
and the third line is reallyhere to master the material
plane, so to make money, um,because they are so good at
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figuring out what works and whatdoesn't.
Um, and then with third lines,that's also about like bonds
made and broken.
And so if you are doingsomething for too long or you're
with somebody for too long, itcan be like, I need a break, I
need space.
And you can even pick uphobbies and drop them and come
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back to them.
And so allowing yourself thepermission to pause bonds and to
realize that you can pausebonds without like burning the
whole bond down to the ground.
That's kind of a shadow forthird lines is um like not
allowing yourself to take spacewhen you need to take it, and
then it builds and builds, andyou're like, I am done with this
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bond.
I never want to come back toit, and you want to burn it all
to the ground, and then youcircle back and you're like,
maybe actually I do want to comeback to this.
Lauren L (11:42):
I just needed a drive by myself for an hour and a
half.
Frank (11:47):
I actually don't see you like fully burning down bonds
like that.
Lauren L (11:50):
No, I don't do that.
Frank (11:52):
I I you do have issues with not taking up space.
Lauren L (11:55):
I have issues with not taking uh a break from from
things where I go like and thenI just like have like crash out
and I'm like, I need I need tobe away from everybody.
Frank (12:07):
And like that's true.
Lauren L (12:08):
Yeah, and I go, Oh, I've had some space.
I sat on the beach for a fewminutes and I feel great.
Frank (12:14):
Another thing with her three is I'm wondering if
because sometimes she uh isthere a thing where like threes
uh can be so afraid of their owntrial and error methods that
they get like scared intoinaction.
Lauren N (12:28):
Yes.
Oh, totally.
And that goes with thatpessimism too of like nothing
works, everything is broken, nomatter what I do, it it won't
matter.
And you can get that pessimismcan really stack up on top of
you.
Frank (12:42):
Yeah, yeah.
Lauren L (12:44):
When I'm not doing when I'm not doing so well, that
is my inner monologue for sure,or my my outer to Frank, where
I'm just like weepy and like whocares?
No one cares.
Frank (12:56):
No, sometimes I'm like, what's what's going on here?
Lauren L (13:01):
I'm so deeply pessimistic, and I come from
like a hope, a hope place, andbut boy, oh boy, I have my days.
Lauren N (13:09):
Yeah, and that's okay.
I mean, that's part of thethird line process, is that
sometimes like like you can putso much energy into something
and then it breaks, and you'relike, what?
I just put all of this energyinto this thing and it's not
working, like everything iswrong.
And it's just important toallow yourself to feel those
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things, you know, feel thepessimism, and you don't have to
hold on to it forever, but youcan feel it and then process it.
And then when you're ready, youcan be like, all right, well,
I'm ready to throw myself intothe void again.
Let's do it.
Yeah, yeah.
Fourth line.
So the fourth line is um, thisis like the networker, and they
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so this is you, Frank, where itis so important for you to
establish and maintainfriendships and bonds with
people.
And you really get your bestopportunities through the people
around you.
And the thing with fourth linesis that you kind of see the
world and the people around youas confidence or not, people
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that you trust or not.
And people can really disarmthemselves around you and really
trust you and feel like, oh,you're somebody who is safe for
me to confide in.
Um, and so the fourth line, itis the networker.
You're here to um to notpigeonhold yourself into like
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one relationship, but to giveand put your energy into many
because the more diverse yourfriend group is, which it might
not be super diverse as aone-four, um, but that is going
to give you your bestopportunities in life.
Lauren L (14:52):
Huh.
Yeah.
You've gotten opportunitiesfrom network.
Frank (14:57):
The way I prefer to be in relationship in relationships
is some kind of project-based,even if that project is
voluntary.
I love like I love meetingpeople in the in the context of
working on something together.
And so, yeah, like the majorityof the things that end up
happening for me, it's like likeI I I met I met Lauren from
being in a band, right?
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Like, that's how we met.
Lauren L (15:19):
Yeah.
Frank (15:20):
Um, like one of my best friends.
I met him like at work.
We were doing work stufftogether, and then we started
doing outside of work stufftogether on other projects, and
that's the context.
And yeah, actually, and then myand then our drummer is like
one of my other best friends.
We're not playing music thesedays, but it's always been it's
always been in the context of anetwork, a project-based
networks.
Lauren N (15:39):
Totally.
Well, and when you talk tofourth lines about dating, so
often they find somebody throughtheir network, like through a
mutual friend, or like you weresaying, like through a hobby,
and then you met Lauren.
It's like the people around youare kind of how things come and
find you.
Frank (15:57):
Very true.
I probably need a biggernetwork, to be honest.
Lauren N (16:00):
So um, there are three different types of like life
path karmas in human design.
So um four, six through theone, three are all um
transpersonal karma, where youare here gathering karma in this
life and playing it out as yougo.
But the five-one to thesix-three, they are here playing
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out karma from other livesthrough other people.
And so they can like, so forexample, my husband's a five-one
and he can like do stuff thatlike doesn't have like the same
kind of karmic likerepercussions, you know, um, as
like I would do.
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Like, I can be very paranoid,like, oh my gosh, like I could
not do that because of karma,and he's just like doesn't care.
Not like in an asshole way, butjust like it doesn't his
actions don't affect him as muchas the actions of the people
around him.
But then four ones are here fora fixed fate.
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So they aren't really hereplaying out karma in this life
or karma from other lives, butthey are here on their own path.
And either people jump on boardor they don't, but they're just
blazing through.
And it's not as um uh itdoesn't it doesn't matter as
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much like their externalcircumstances because like they
are locked in, and basicallywhat's going to happen is what's
going to happen.
And if you're with a 4-1, youessentially are kind of like
surrendering to their life pathand going along with it or not.
Frank (17:46):
Holy shit.
That's crazy.
Wow, okay, and that's the onethat's like that.
Lauren N (17:55):
The only profile, yeah, is the only one with fixed
fate.
So it's like no matter how goodof a person or how shitty of a
person, fate is fixed no matterwhat.
Lauren L (18:06):
Oh that is so interesting.
Lauren N (18:10):
Okay.
So five is the heretic or thesavior.
So the five is so interestingbecause nobody sees them
clearly, they are a completemirror for other people, and
people are going to see them inrelation to how they see
themselves and um how they Iguess want to see the other
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person.
And so there's this theme ofthe fifth line does really well
with strangers becauseoftentimes people will meet you
and they'll be like, wow, thisperson is amazing! Like, this is
so awesome.
And then the more they get toknow you and they start to have
that projection broken down,then they're like, Wow, I never
knew you.
Like, this is you're not theperson I thought you were.
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Um, and then they want to burnyou at the stake for it.
Um, and I mean, I'm alsomarried to a fifth line, and
it's like, even with theawareness of human design, there
are times where it's like, Iwant to burn him at the stake
for making assumptions or likehaving expectations in my mind
that I didn't voice that hedidn't like fulfill in the way
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that I thought he would.
So the thing with fifth linesis that they are great fixers
because they see things thatother people don't see.
They are here to universalize,and they can call trends or they
can call things before ithappens because they're like,
uh, I think that this is like,you know, like for example, uh,
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I watched a South Park episodeand it was about woke culture
being dead.
And so a fifth line could belike, woke, woke culture culture
is dying, and then people wantto burn them for it.
Because they're like, how dareyou say that?
But as soon as a fourth linelocks onto that and they put it
through their network andnormalize it, then they're like,
Whoa, the fifth line was sosmart, and they caught this
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before.
So the fifth line is reallyhere to um universalize the
things that they're seeing andexperiencing.
And something I say for fifthlines is over-communicate if you
can.
Because when people, if there'slike a little micro projection,
if you don't like nip it in thebutt right away, that
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projection is going to grow andgrow.
Um, and so really state your uhwhat you're able to do and what
you are not able to do, um,because unmet expectations are
like the Achilles heel for fifthlines.
And a lot of times it's likepeople don't even realize that
they're projecting onto you.
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And so just being really clearwith your boundaries, like I can
do this, I can't do that.
So, like, for example, if youhave somebody who is coming to
you and they are like, I needyou to fix this thing for me,
but you know that you do nothave the space or the time for
it, just instead of like beinglike, Okay, I'll just do this
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because I don't want you to burnme for it, to really state and
reinforce those boundaries.
Um then with and then withfifth lines, there can be this
paranoia and this like fear ofreally speaking up and sharing
your truth because you're soused to people, like they either
love it or they hate you forit, and it can condition you to
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like be paranoid and to expectthat people are gonna react
poorly to you.
Frank (21:35):
Oh man, that was my question.
I was gonna say, if you're afifth line and there's not a lot
of people who want to burn youat the stake, is that because
you're not being fifth lineenough?
Lauren N (21:48):
Well, but the thing is, as a three-five, people like
generally really love threefives because you have this
humanness about you.
Like the third line can be solike funny and charismatic, and
you're like, I'm not perfect,look at me.
And so there is, I feel likethis exception to the rule with
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the three five, but it's stillyou're still gonna have those
people that are coming back andthey're like, wait a minute.
But like, for example, DianaPrincess of Wales was a
three-five, like people lovedher.
Frank (22:22):
Oh yeah.
Lauren N (22:23):
Um, but then it's like when they got divorced, um,
people really hated her when shestarted to like share her truth
too.
Oh man.
Frank (22:32):
Oh no, that's such a good example.
She's a great example, yeah.
Lauren L (22:35):
That's so uh yeah, that's really interesting
because there's sometimes whereI'm like, I thought I was
friends with this person.
They just never called me againor something.
And I'm like, what the hell?
And I don't think it's thatlike they stopped liking me, but
maybe I'm maybe there's somepeople that I reflect back
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something to them that they'reseeing that they don't like
about themselves or something.
Lauren N (23:02):
Yeah, for sure.
The fifth line has a very theyRa says it's like a seductive
aura.
People like really they see youhow they want to see you.
And so if they have somethinginside that they don't like and
they see you, they are going toproject that onto you because it
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gives them an excuse from notlooking at that within
themselves.
So when somebody is wanting toburn a fifth line for something,
I'm always like, what is itinside of you that you want to
burn yourself for?
And instead of takingaccountability, you're putting
it on to this person becausethey are a mirror to you and
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they're really just showing youa shadow aspect of yourself.
Lauren L (23:48):
Yeah, yeah.
Frank (23:49):
How about that?
That tracks.
That does track.
Interesting.
Lauren N (23:55):
And sixth line.
Yeah, so they they experiencelife in three phases.
So the first 30 years of theirlife is this third line theme
where they're trial and erring,they're learning things the hard
way, but they're not asresilient as third lines.
Like third lines, we're kind ofmeant to be beaten down and
take it and like it makes usstronger.
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Um, but sixth lines, theyaren't like that.
And so when they get to theirSaturn return, it's like they
want to get out of society,they're done trial and erroring,
and they go up onto the roof,and they're like, I'm just gonna
watch everything from adistance, and they become very
aloof and like kind of unawareof and not wanting to be aware
(24:39):
of everything going on aroundthem.
And then after they're um,after age 50, they um come down.
Sorry, I think it's actuallyage 60.
Um, they come down off of theroof and they're like, okay,
these are the lessons that Ilearned, and then they're here
to really embody this rolemodel.
(24:59):
But the thing with six lines isthat they're either a role
model of what you should do or arole model of what you
shouldn't do.
And so there's kind of thesetwo ends of the coin.
Um, but they're essentiallythey're just here to be wise and
to learn from their trial anderroring.
(25:19):
Um, and they either do or theydon't.
And you said by uh Saturnreturns, and that is a So Saturn
return is typically around likeage 30, around there.
So, but there is this like asthey are going onto the roof, it
takes them a while.
It's not just this immediatealoof, I am, you know,
disappearing.
(25:40):
There are gonna be, there'sgonna be several years where
they are coming down and they'retrial and erring, and then
they're like, wow, this sucks.
I'm gonna go back onto theroof.
But then eventually there isthis like detachment and
aloofness where they're like,I'm just gonna focus on me.
And so that's when a lot oftimes six lines like have
families, or they just theydon't want to keep being like in
(26:05):
society the way that they werebefore.
It's like they have to licktheir wounds, integrate their
lessons, and then show upstronger and better for it when
they're ready.
And that is um, so it's aftertheir Uranus opposition, which
is the four uh around like age42, and I'm like, oh, I have
(26:25):
this photographic memory.
But I totally I'm spacing on umif it's 50 or 60, where they
come off of the roof, it mightbe I think their 60s.
Um, I think it's their secondSaturn return is when they come
back down.
So, like for a full 30-yearcycle, they're like, I'm, you
know, I am not a part of this,and then they integrate and they
(26:49):
live this life that'sseparated, also that they can
come down and be the role modelthat they're supposed to be.
Frank (26:56):
Huh.
This is amazing.
I feel like I mean, obviously,the the wealth of information
that you're providing us isincredible, and also it goes so
much deeper.
But do you feel like this is agood, like for someone who's
just getting into it, like thisis the the the basics?
Because I assume that fromhere, like you know, with the
the profiles, then you haveprofile combinations and that
(27:18):
presents in whole differentkinds of ways.
But is this like is this likethe good foundation?
Lauren N (27:25):
Yeah, I believe so.
Because if you know your energytype, then you know how to get
onto your path.
And then knowing your profile,that just helps you to really
embody and to not shame yourselffor who you are, you know, like
as a first line.
If you know your first line andyou're prone to insecurity,
that's okay.
That just means research more,investigate more.
(27:48):
As a fifth line, if you knowpeople are gonna project onto
you, that's okay.
You can expect that, you know.
So it is like it's giving youthis framework of like giving
you permission of how of to beyourself and kind of showing you
how to be yourself.
But there are so many layers ofhuman design.
We could go really deep intoit.
(28:08):
Yeah.
But I mean, then it's likedrinking from a fire hose, you
know?
Yeah.
And it's really human design.
It's like Raw says, you know,it's not just me giving you
information, it's me telling youways that you can experiment
with the system and make it yourown and see it for yourself.
It's like, don't trust me,don't take my word for it.
(28:30):
Experiment with it.
It's really meant to beexperimented and just see what
happens, see if you get moreease into your life or not.
Frank (28:38):
Yeah, and after all is said and done, it's so
interesting.
The reason why, you know,there's no shortage of people
developing like interestingwoo-woo systems out there of
like, oh, here's what here's Iknow who you are.
It's this.
Here's the secret secretequation.
But there's something insanelyintuitive about this system.
I mean, not uh initiallyintuitive because there's charts
(29:01):
and numbers and all this stuffall over the place.
But once you get in it, you'relike, oh my god, that makes so
much sense.
And it like kind kind ofteaches you how to uh how to
interface with the world uh in away that like feels correct.
And um it's it's really if itif it didn't make so much sense,
it wouldn't make any sense.
Lauren L (29:23):
Frank's starting to like we were following our
digestion specifically, and likeFrank was like, this works so
well for my body.
Frank (29:31):
Oh, for my digestion thing, we can't get into it now,
but for mine, if I don't followit, it is it it is it's
devastating for me.
Lauren N (29:40):
Yeah.
Consecutive, yeah.
Frank (29:43):
Yeah.
Lauren N (29:43):
Yeah.
Well, and you'll find that sothe one through six is the
foundation for like the wholesystem.
So like um digestion,digestion, it's six.
So consecutive is first linefoundation.
So it's the most primitive.
It's like the most, if you donot do this and have this solid
(30:05):
foundation of this consecutivething, then like everything goes
amok.
Whereas like hot thirst, that'sa third line theme.
And so you can like trial anderror, it's not going to affect
you as much as a consecutivehour.
Appetite does.
Lauren L (30:21):
Oh, that's so interesting.
I didn't I didn't even thinkabout that being connected.
Frank (30:26):
No.
Lauren L (30:27):
Oh.
Rah.
Frank (30:29):
You did it again, Roma.
Lauren L (30:33):
Oh my gosh.
Okay.
We've kept you so far past thehour we said.
Frank (30:39):
Yeah.
Lauren L (30:39):
We're like, we keep things to an hour.
Yeah.
We are liars.
Frank (30:43):
Lauren, uh tell everybody where to find you and where
they can like book yourservices.
Lauren L (30:48):
Yeah.
Lauren N (30:49):
Yeah.
So I am my website isnoblealignment.com.
And um as I was like fillingout the questionnaire for you
guys, I had like differenthandles for everything.
I was like, this is soconfusing.
So I changed everything todayto just Noble Alignment.
So that's awesome.
TikTok, Substack, Instagram,making it as simple as possible.
(31:10):
But I offer sessions, soindividual couples, parents.
Um yeah, and also I do uh Ioffer audio recordings.
So if you have a question, youcan fill out the questionnaire
and I can send you within 48hours like a 10 to 20 minute
audio spiff going over yourchart and like the specific area
(31:30):
of advice that you're needing.
Frank (31:32):
Wait, that's like an introverts dream.
That's a fantastic idea.
Lauren L (31:35):
Yeah, that's amazing.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, well, you've been anabsolute joy to talk to, and
thank you for spending so muchtime with us, spending like so
so much explanation, and it'sjust it feels effortless from
you because you've like done somuch work, but thank you.
(31:57):
Thank you.
Lauren N (31:58):
Yeah, thank you so much for having me.
It was so great plugging intoyou guys.
I feel satisfied.
Yeah, and thank you forlistening.
Frank (32:13):
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