November 21, 2025 • 45 mins
Co-Host Dave Campbell - What Does It Mean To Have Passion For Your Dreams
Hi Friends,
In this episode I have my dear friend Dave Campbell on the show and we talk about:
Passion and what it really means. Passion comes from the latin word Passio which means to suffer or to endure. Are you willing to suffer and endure in order to achieve your dreams? Following your passion is not always going to be light and fluffy but challenging and hard.
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(00:01):
Hi everyone, welcome to classic advice to those of you that are
new. I share stories from my personal
life in order to draw lessons from them to encourage self
improvement for a more fulfilling and happier life.
I have a very special episode for you guys today because I'm
not here alone. I have my dear friend Dave
(00:24):
Campbell here with me. He's come back.
Hello, everybody. Welcome, Dave Campbell.
Say hi. Hello to my favorite podcasting
host, Scarlett Classic, who makes me happy and I can as you
as I listen to your show, Scarlett, I just love.
I love what you do and I love how you do it.
(00:46):
So thanks. Oh absolutely, absolutely.
It's good to to be back into theswing of things.
And yeah, the move, the move took a lot out of me, but to end
the new job. But I, yeah, today I, I was
actually listening because Dave has not 9 shows now it's 9, not
(01:07):
8, right? So I was editing my website and
I had to change the 8 to a nine yesterday.
So I wanted to confirm that was right.
So Dave has nine shows. One of his shows is called the
How to Podcast series. And one of the episodes, I think
it's 461 if memory serves. You talk about having passion
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for your podcast and what that means.
And immediately I was like, oh, Dave has to come on and tell
everybody about passion. So what?
What is passion? OK, so before we jump into this,
your comment to me, Scarlett, about your reaction to this
episode really, really touched me.
(01:50):
Like as podcasters, we create content, we put stuff out in the
world and we don't really know the impact of our words.
And you know, like I recorded this episode, I put it out, I'm
on to the next one. And I almost forgot about what I
even talked about on this episode.
And when you reached out to me, I had to go back and re listen
to it again and imagine myself sitting next to you when you're
(02:14):
listening to this. So can before we, before I get
into the topic of what we're talking about, can you just tell
people what you said to me kind of your reaction to this
episode? Because that's really meaningful
to me as well. I think.
I think people just need to kindof hear that side of it before
we get into this too. Yes, well, I, I listen to the
episode and obviously you're talking about podcasting in
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general. And obviously I have a show too,
so it was relevant. But the whole time I really it,
it really hit me hard and I was really thinking about where I'm
at now and if you guys are joining for the first time.
I sold my house or me and my husband sold my our house in and
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we moved out and bought a property bare land in July.
We, we came on to the new property and it, it has nothing
on it other than a well, septic and so fancy.
So we're living in our camper and we're going to build our
homestead from scratch. And it's, it's, you know, you
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see those videos of, of van lifeand, and, and camper life and
it's, it's glamorized. It is, it is glamorized right
now. There's snow outside.
You know, it's, it's a nice day.It's, but it's, there's a lot
more to it than it's just being,you know, I don't know, I think
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people hype it up as it being easier than it really is.
And it's, it's, I mean, it's nothard.
It's not too like crazy hard, but it's, you have to really
change the way that you live andyou have to be willing to have
passion for it and, and suffer for it because it's not, you
know, the one day I came home and I was so tired.
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I had a 14 1/2 hour day. Well, probably more like a 15
hour day because we're working at a different site.
My commute is longer and I really just wanted to have a
shower and lay down. But there's no water in my
freshwater tank and it was frozen.
So I'm sitting there trying to get water out of the well from
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my hose and I'm waiting and I'm waiting and it's doing, it's
like spurty thing trying to get water up.
And I'm thinking, oh, no, the line is frozen.
And I'm waiting for probably a good solid minute, which felt
like an hour thinking I'm not going to be able to have a
shower tonight. And it's so when I was listening
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to your episode to rabbit back to your question, I just if you
have a dream, you need to have alot of passion for your dream.
Otherwise it's just it's it's it's gonna really get to you and
you're probably wanna get gonna give up, right?
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So when I was listening to her, I just really hit me.
I was like, yeah, I I need to have a lot of passion for this
or it's not gonna work. Right, which can touch every
part of your life, relationships, your marriage,
your parenting, anything writinga book like all of these things
require passion and the one thing people will say often is
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follow your passion and it sounds light and fluffy kind of
like icing on a cake, but it's not light and fluffy.
It's not light and fluffy at all.
We've been lied to Scarlet Classic.
We've been lied to. So that's why I did the episode
because I find in creative places, people will, whatever
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they're creating, they will start strong and then over time
they lose their passion for whatthey do.
And what does that mean? To lose your passion or to
follow your passion, right? Or to live with passion?
And when I looked up the, the Latin root word for passion,
it's passio. PASS I/O for you at home and it
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simply means to suffer or endure.
So I just mentioned to Jen before I came down to talk to
you Scarlett, she says hi. I said to Jen, like I can say I
have a passionate relationship with my wife and that sounds
like, but what it means is I'm willing to suffer and endure
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with my wife in relationship. And she's like, am I that bad?
Like you have to suffer? I'm like, no, no, no.
It's just it's my commitment to go beyond the fields and
understand that in relationshipsthere's going to be times where
we don't like each other, right?And if we have passion, then
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we're suffering and enduring in relationship together.
There's times where we go to work and we suffer and endure.
My passion is my job, right? There's, there's your kids.
I love my kids. I'm passionate about my kids.
I'm willing to suffer and endurefor the sake of my kids to give
them the life that they deserve,right?
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So I think when we say follow your passion or we put passion
into a sentence or we see it on a poster somewhere in the office
to motivate you to do your thing, just remember that it's
based on that Latin root word passio to suffer and endure.
So that was kind of the idea behind the episode and then from
there we just kind of went off on a a tangent.
(07:50):
Yeah, it and it, it, it really did hit because you know, if you
just follow, follow the the light and fluffy or the, OR your
feelings, right, you're not always going to want to feel
like if you're writing a book, like writing or, you know, lots
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of people start podcasting and then pod fade or whatever, they
lose their quote UN quote passion for it or their their
love for it and then they stop. Because if you're, and I know
I've mentioned this on the show before, you know, for doing
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things, even though you don't, you don't feel like doing it in
the moment, but you do it anywaybecause you have to like you're
hungry. So you go cook.
You have to you don't feel like cooking all the time.
I hate cooking. So that's very relevant to me.
You know, it's just it, it's sort of to find your to find
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your, your, your. I don't know that passions.
That doesn't even feel like the right word right now, but to you
have to be willing to suffer forit to go to the room, lock
yourself in the room like I am right now and and do the thing,
even though you may not, becauseyou're not going to want to feel
like doing it all the time. You're not going to want to feel
like, you know, I'm living a camp right now.
(09:23):
I really didn't feel like standing outside with the hose
trying to bring water up. Oh, I will so I could have a
shower. You know you're not going to get
you questioning your life choices in that moment because
if you're not willing to suffer for the end goal, that's going
to take years to get there, right?
(09:43):
Right. It's.
And OK, I remember walking. I've mentioned this to you.
I remember walking with you and Jen, my wife Jen in Calgary
downtown, getting lost and then finding our way.
Anyway, we did a lot of walking,a lot of walking.
We're like, oh, we're back to where we started anyways.
But I remember you sharing your passion for this dream you had
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for to go and create your own place and do what you're doing
right now. And your, your, your voice was
full of excitement, a little bitof nervousness for doing a big
change in your family, but it was your passion.
I'm so passionate about this. I want to build this new life
and new homestead. And you kept going on and on and
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on and generally like, wow, thatseems like a big goal to make
that big change with a, with a, a family too.
Like I'm like, we're cheering you on.
And then to see you follow your passion to suffer and endure A
peeing amount of water that comes out of your wells.
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So you can't have a shower like you, you are, you are suffering
and enduring right now. You are following your passion
and again, I just want people tounderstand how the the other
side of passion is is perseverance.
It's your ability to endure wheneverything tells you to stop,
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when you don't feel motivated. That's where passion comes from.
You're living it in real time bydoing what you guys are doing as
a family. So that's inspiring and I'm glad
you're sharing that on your showbecause that piece, which might
seem like to you just things in the moment that you're dealing
with. We're following your journey as
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listeners. I'm a listener of your show.
We're following your your journey as a listener and
hearing your passion on display.You're building in public, which
I love so. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's yeah. So it's not, it's not going to
always be easy, is what I'm trying to, you know,
communicate. And it's what, what do you do
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when, when you're in the suffering stage, right?
Like what say for your podcast like, because you can't, you
have 9 shows. Like you can't always want to be
like super ecstatic to go downstairs in your basement.
What do you do when you're in that suffering stage?
(12:18):
Well, when I'm, when I'm on to my eighth interview, that day,
yeah, that day. Not that week, that day, you
kind of get a little bit cranky and you get a little bit like
mentally exhausted because you've had these amazing
conversations and you have to beon.
I'm an introvert, so for me to be on and engaged with humans,
(12:44):
it's interesting. I just did an episode on Dead
Space, which just went out today, and here's kind of the
overview the difference between an introvert and an extrovert,
right? We're kind of going a little
tangent, but I'll keep it short.An introvert starts every day
with five coins in their hand. OK?
That's how our day starts. And over the period of the day,
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we give away a coin in interactions with other people
until we run out. When we run out, we go back to
our safe place and recharge. OK, so we're giving away our
coins. An extrovert, which is my wife
Jennifer, starts her day with 0 coins in her hands and every
interaction gives her a new coin.
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So she's collecting coins. By the end of the day, she's got
armfuls and buckets full of coins because it's just how that
feeds her. So I'm giving away my coins and
she's collecting coins. So we're opposites in that
moment, right? And for me, I'm just, I was
trying to talk about on that show that introverts are not
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broken extroverts. Like we don't need to be fixed.
We need to be understood, right?And so as I'm kind of working
through this in my mind, I'm just thinking, you know, we, we
just need to have some, some space for each other and
understand how each other works.And I think that's another
component to all of this idea around passion because when I'm
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giving and giving and giving as a podcast host and interviewing
people and having great conversations, I'm running out
of coins right? To my wife, a podcast would be
great because she just gets moreand more coins.
I'm giving them away. So I do have to have a time to
kind of recharge and rebuild. And it's trying to find the
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moments to find time to recharge.
It's hard for me to do, but I'vebeen a introvert my whole life,
so I've been doing this for a long time.
So I do have some tools in my tool chest that help me, but I
think that's just one thing to keep in mind, 'cause you're
either 11 or the other most likely.
And there's, there's combinations.
But I say if you're an extrovert, don't try to fix an
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introvert. If you're an introvert, you
that's not an excuse to hide. So you still have to push
yourself out there. So that's kind of my, it's kind
of my, that's kind of how I dealwith all of the things going on.
What's right now? So you mentioned your, your
tools. What are you?
What are some of the tools? Just some examples.
Just I need to, I need to read myself, I need to know my
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limits. Like I could, I could open my
calendar and I could interview people 24 hours a day, but I
can't physically do that. So I do have to limit myself.
I give myself a day off every week where I have nothing on my
calendar. So that's kind of a, that's like
a, a reward where I, my mentallydon't have to show up that day.
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I can go putt around and do other things and not be on, you
know, and Jen's at work. I'm home by myself with the dogs
and the cat and the turtle and that's my day to just do what I
want to do without having to be responsible for anybody else.
That's so I build that in my day, that in my week.
So that kind of helps. Yeah, and that's, I think that's
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really key. Like I grew up in a a very
religious home. So Sunday's was always the
recharge. Other than we went to church, it
was the recharge date. Like we weren't extreme like,
you know, like we still, you know, my mom would cook, but she
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would just do really easy meals.So she prep kind of for
Saturday. So Sunday would be a really
easy, you know, throw something in the oven and let it do its
thing. And then it was just a nice day
that we didn't have to do chores.
Saturday was normally kind of a gong show at growing up.
We would do all the chores just in one day, like, you know, the,
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the vacuuming and the whatever, right?
Or, but then we all, we always set aside one day a week.
That was the recharge day. That was the just hang out, do
whatever you want. And it's, it's a, it's a really
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good tool to have in your chest when you're getting, when you're
in that suffering stage to, to and recognizing it.
You know, like you said, that you learned to recognize it.
I, I think that's really key too, because sometimes I'm
really cranky and I have to havethat self-awareness to be like,
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oh, OK, this is what's going on.I just had a really long day,
you know, don't take it out on anybody else.
Just recognize the fact that you're really overwhelmed or
maybe oversimulated from whatever.
Because I, you know, I in construction, so there's noise
all the time, right? And it's, it's funny because
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I'm, I'm hard of hearing, you know, I'm half deaf, but I don't
wear my hearing aids because noise overstimulates me.
So recognizing that like sometimes I'll just, you know, I
have an hour and 1520 minute drive home.
I don't listen to the radio, I don't listen to anything.
I'm just just the silence, right?
And that's part of me rechargingbecause I'm, I'm just
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decompressing through my day, not having any input.
Yeah, right. No, no podcasting.
No, like nothing for my brain toto distract, to just decompress
and have the silence to just wind down from a long hard day
or whatever. You see, you said no podcast.
How dare you? I know.
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Scarlet. Classic I know how.
Dare you? But you know, and, and so, yeah,
recognizing when you're in it and, and you know, if you're an
introvert, extrovert, deal with that accordingly, right.
And, and, and taking that one atleast that one day a week where
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you can just, and it's hard whenI'm on normally we were kind of
winding down through the season now and then I'm going to get my
seasonal layoff. So it's a little bit different
hours now. Now I have weekends off, but our
regular schedule is 11 days in arow and then three days off.
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So you're working, you know, youget every second weekend off
basically. So like to have that one day a
week is not gonna, it's, it's not gonna be there because you
have to work that day. But still, I try to when I am on
those days, you know, to have one one day or that I can come
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home and not do chores. So we make sure the water
stocked, you know, other than feed the dogs, whatever.
But you know, to, it can be challenging, you know, if you
have a schedule like I do, but it's, I think it's important to
take a day, right? Yeah.
And it all goes back to that passion again, right.
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I just think that when we talk about passion and that enduring
part and to suffer, I just thinkwe have it kind of backwards
that passion is a result of something good all the time.
It's an up for us. And when it's not an up, we're
confused because it's like all I'm doing is following my
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passion. But why is this so hard?
Should be easy. This is my passion, right?
This is what I want to do is what I love to do.
My job is what I get to do and my passion is what I want to do.
But then when it's difficult, we're like, well, this
shouldn't, this doesn't make sense.
If my passion is my thing that lights me up, then why is it so
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hard? It's because it's your passion
and your passion is based on suffering and endurance.
So understand that and whatever that is for you and your
journey, again, your relationships, your, your kids,
your partner, your work life, a creative project, whatever
you're doing, building a building a house in the middle
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of nowhere, like it's going to cost you something.
And I don't think that people understand the costs associated
to passion, right? It sounds, it's again, it sounds
warm and fuzzy to have this passion project, but you're
actually asking for a whole lot of hurt and you just need to be
aware of that. And then like you take time for
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yourself to recharge, you need to take time for yourself in
your passions to, to have some kind of support to help you
through those moments when the suffering and endurance is too
hard to continue the passion, right?
Then you need people around you who also believe in you or see
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your, the results of your passion and go cheer you on,
right? And go, you can do this and we
believe in you. And if you don't have those
people, you need to find some people like that, you know, like
I have you like it's, it's greatto have people in this world who
think about you when you're not in the room.
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That is so cool. Like, and then when you reached
out to me and said you enjoyed this episode of my show, I was
just like, wow, our words have meaning.
Our words have purpose. And if we can help people and
share our journey, share our passions, then maybe somebody
listening could then be inspiredto do the thing they're
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passionate about, work through the suffering and endurance.
Because they've had an example from someone else who builds in
public and shares the hard things and and the fun things.
And we get to walk along beside you and see you build your life.
Those are the best videos on YouTube.
Somebody building a cabin in themiddle of the woods, like you
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guys to follow. That is like so inspiring
because we're watching somebody live their passion and we see
them cut their finger, fall off a ladder, you know, a tree falls
on them, whatever, a bear chasesthem through the woods.
You're we're living our we're living through you vicariously.
We're watching your journey and going wow.
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I'd love to follow my passion and do blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah. But I can watch Scarlett and her
family do it and go, wow, if shecan do it, then I can do it
right? Well, exactly.
And that that circles back to who you surround yourself with.
So if you have a real passion for, you know, whatever it may
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be, insert your dream here. If you find other people that
have a parallel dream. Yeah, it can Really, Really, it
can really, really, really help you.
And that's where you can find community too.
So for example, when I was thinking of starting a podcast,
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I didn't know where to start. Found your show and you have the
the meet up group, right. And on meet up, there's there's
groups for everything on there. You know, there's groups for I'm
a part of a writing group on there.
I've only gone once, but they are, I know, wow, wow, wow.
There's only so many hours in the day.
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But there's, you know, there's ways to find people that have
similar interests. And if you surround yourself
with people with a shared goal or a shared dream, it can
really, really, really, really help you.
And that that's the leaning intoyour community, which I am.
I'm not good at. I, I'm really good at being
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there for other people and I need to learn to let other
people be there for me. And that's, that's one of my own
fault. But you know, having that
self-awareness, it's going to help down the road, right, to,
to recognize, oh, I'm falling into a slump.
I'm, I'm in the, the suffering stage of following my passion
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and following my dream. What do I do?
OK, let's go look in the toolboxand pull out our OK, well, maybe
we need a rest day. Maybe we're maybe we're running
too hard too fast and and finding those man manageable,
cutting it into bite size pieces.
Like in the meet up group last week, you did a live recording
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on the show and one of the things that you do is you do a
recording, then you stop your recording, regroup, you do the
next section stop, next section stop.
And it's it's bite sized little pieces.
And one of the things that I have to recognize like I was on,
I was on 10 hours days. I was getting home a lot earlier
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and I was like, OK, well, I can write a little bit half an hour
on my book, half an hour on my podcast, whether that's writing
emails or whatever. I try to record on weekends and
then I do all the background stuff during the week.
And then we moved sites and now I'm on 12 hour days again.
I'm getting home later. It's a farther away site.
I, I couldn't, there was no humanly way possible that I
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could work on my book or work onmy show all last week because
it's, there's just only 24 hoursin a day and I still have to
sleep and I still have to eat and I still have to be a mom
sleep. Yeah.
And it's. So then I was like, OK, well,
you know what? It's only for a couple more
weeks. It is what it is.
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I'll just work a little bit, youknow, I'll take some chunks out
during, during the weekend to doa little bit more work.
I did a bunch of batch recordings.
So I am ahead of myself now, youknow, and, and, and having those
realistic goals, that is, is pretty vital because if you put
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too, too much on your plate, there's only so much that you're
or so long that you're going to be able to sustain that.
And then you're just going to gointo a crash, which is what I
do. I'll put way too much on and
then I'll just and then I'll wonder why can't I do this?
Right, so I have some classic advice for people who listen to
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this show. OK, because you always do the
classic advice. I want to do the classic advice
and I want to be your host because I love how you say host.
That's the coolest thing ever. I just, it makes me smile every
time you do your intro. My classic advice, everyone who
listens to this show, Scarlett gives so much on this podcast.
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She just keeps showing up and there's days again, like we
don't feel like. And I, I know as a listener, you
might not understand what happens behind the scene for
podcasters, but I'm asking you to encourage Scarlett in.
She's got like her buy me a coffee.
She's got her website, she's gota calendar invites.
It's hard to fit people into your calendar, but she puts it
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out there. My encouragement to everyone
that listens to the show. You might assume that Scarlett
knows that you appreciate her, but she doesn't know for sure.
And I would encourage you to reach out to Scarlett and and
leave her a message Somehow. Voice messages are, are great
'cause we can play them over andover and over again and obsess
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over them because it's like, Oh my gosh, it's the voice of my
listener. Oh gosh.
It's really, really fun as a podcaster to get feedback.
And like I said, you'll buy a book and you'll never leave a
review, right? It's like, they know I like it.
I bought the book. They know I like Scarlett's
show. I listened.
And you think that's enough? It's not enough.
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It isn't. Scarlett would love to hear from
you. That's the community side of
what she does. And she just said for herself,
it's hard to build community forherself, but she knows what it's
like to be a part of someone else's community.
So we, and I'm speaking as a listener of the show.
So I am one of Scarlett's community members.
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By listening to the show is to be actively in the comments.
If you're on Spotify, leave comments in the episode.
You can leave a comment in this episode and, you know, talk
about your passion or something,but leave something related to
the episode and put that in there.
However you listen, there's probably a way to make a
comment. And if not, go to their website,
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Classic Chronicles. And you can, you can, you can do
all this. You can be one of the supports
to help Scarlett and her family follow her passions.
So that's my classic advice moment.
Dave's hijacking the show. I just want people to hear that.
You might anticipate that Scarlett just knows how much you
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appreciate her show, but she probably would like to hear it
more often. So she hasn't asked me to do
this. This is just one podcaster
helping another podcaster, but Ireally encourage you to do that
today and don't put it off because it's it's fuel in our
tank. That's the other part.
You have to refuel your tank in rest.
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But having people appreciate your efforts and support you
super important. So that's my ask.
Aw, thanks, Dave. That was so sweet.
Yeah. And it, it, it is important.
You know, one of the things we do as as a family is whenever
we're on a phone call or before we leave the house, we always
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say, I love you. We say I love you a lot in my in
my family, like annoyingly a lot.
But you just never know. You just never know when it's
going to be your last time leaving the house because
anything can happen. And that's, that's one of the
things we do because we always leave the conversations with.
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And I love you does really annoyme sometimes, but it is what it
is. You suffer for your marriage,
But it, it is, it comes back with, with, with giving that
feedback because you know, it's,I don't, I don't think it is sad
enough. And, and you know, I do, I do
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really, really, really love hearing from my listeners and
it's even 11 little e-mail here and there or one little response
or like, or when I log into my my account and see, oh, someone,
you know, left a review or, or, or sent me an e-mail, it's or
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someone booked time. It's like it, it, it, it really
does probably mean a lot more than than you think.
And it's, you know, if you, if you just think about, you know,
when's the last time someone at work told you did a good job and
how much that means to you. Or when your kids just light up
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when they show you some weird little Lego thing that they
built and you just go over the top and say, wow, that's really
cool. Like, what's this dude?
And what's that dude? And what's this piece mean?
And they just light up and they go right into it.
And then sometimes I'll ask, youknow, Riley, something will be
like, oh, I never thought about that.
And he's like, well, it's for this.
And he just makes something up on the moment, but he's so happy
about it. You know what I mean?
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Like it's when you when you givepeople that feedback, it does.
It does mean a lot when you're, especially when you're going
through those moments of place really hard right now.
Yeah, yeah. And think about as you listen to
this, when you go to work tomorrow and you're sitting in
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the lunch room or you're interacting with the Co workers
and somebody says something like, you know, on my days off,
I do blink, whatever that is. I golf, I write a book, I'm a
podcaster, whatever that is, right.
And as you listen to that, you're like, I don't have
anything that I do for myself onmy personal time that lights me
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up. I don't have a passion.
I my job is my thing. I can when I'm home, I'm just
watching Netflix. Like what's your passion?
What is the thing that you look forward to on the days when you
have personal time? Could be your family, could be
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painting, it could be drawing, reading, podcasting.
There's so many different things, right?
Gardening, getting water out of a well, when you want to have a
shower. There's a lot of things that are
your passion, right? But if you're feeling like don't
feel judged in this, but if you're feeling like, I don't
know what my passion is like, I haven't really given myself
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permission to pursue my passion,then maybe think about what
lights you up. Make a list makes.
There's on my dad's face podcast.
I talk a lot about the fact thatwe as men can lose ourself over
time. There was something you love to
do back in the day that you werecompletely obsessed with, but
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life, career, family gets in theway at a point where you've lost
track of the things that you love to do in the past.
Re engage with the things that was your passion before and why
you loved what you loved back then, whatever that is, and
reignite that passion. So don't be, don't be jealous of
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someone else's passion, but be inspired by it.
And if you have, if you're lacking in that department, then
create the space to to find joy and passion again in your
journey. So that's just my encouragement.
Don't feel judged by it, but letit be an encouragement for you
that if other people can find something to be passionate
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about, so can you. Just you just got to figure out
what that is. Oh, that was that was really,
really beautiful what you just said.
I'd really, really like that. Like, couldn't have said it
better. What great advice.
Yeah. Because it's, it's very, very
easy. And you know, as parents to get
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so wrapped up in the job of a parent that you lose yourself.
It's so easy, you know, between I, I, you know, my kids aren't
in sports. We live out in the middle of the
nowhere. The hours that I work.
It's just I, I can't, I can't beeverywhere at once.
I don't know how people like that do it.
I just, I don't know. I don't.
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You're superhuman. But it's so easy with all those
little tasks to, to lose yourself and what you used to
love. And maybe you haven't found it
yet. Maybe I never, if someone would
have told me, you know, how longhave I been passed?
For like a year and a half, I'vebeen podcasting.
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If somebody would have told me two years ago that I would have
fallen in love with podcasting, I would have given them a really
weird thought because I never even, it never even dawned on
me, you know, it was just I started listening to them a lot.
And then I started having this thought and feeling that, hey,
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you know what? I think I would really enjoy
that. Yeah, well, Scarlett, you're a
natural. First of all, you are a natural.
And I think everyone that would listens to your show like I do
would agree with me that every time you come on the mic, you're
talking to one person, you're talking to me and the
companionship I feel through themicrophone.
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There's nothing fake about you at all.
Like I just, I lean in. I look forward to seeing that
notification on my phone that there's some more classic advice
in my, in my day, right. So as a, as a, again, as a
member of your community, I juston behalf of everyone else, I
just want to say thank you for how you show up on this show.
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Like you say that you can't imagine yourself at one point
ever being a podcaster. I can't imagine you not being a
podcaster. Well, that means so much to me.
You don't even know. You don't even know.
Yeah, that means that means a lot.
But my point was like, maybe you, maybe you haven't found it
yet. Yeah.
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And just just look, just just keep, keep your eye out, keep
your ear listening. And, and you, if you look out
for it, then I think you're gonna find it.
Yeah, and maybe ask somebody whoknows you well, like, what am I
good at? Like what?
What do I talk about a lot that make you roll your eyes?
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When you talk about. Star Wars way too much OK, well,
maybe that's my passion or maybeI love you pick pick your
favorite sports team and that's what I talked about in my
episode. People are passionate about
their sports teams, which means that they will suffer and endure
for the sake of their team. Even when their team sucks,
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there's still a fan right we think of Toronto Maple Leafs
here in Canada. Those fans suffer and endure for
a team that just can't win for some reason, they just can't.
They can't win the Cup, right? But their their fans are
passionate about that team, likepassionate.
So that's a great example of of passion in practice.
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Is. Suffering and enduring for
something that's not working, but still a fan, right?
Still cheering people on. And something that you know
what, it's for me, like when someone says or even when like I
love reading and I and I go intoa bookstore and it, I was
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telling Roy, I was like, it's it, it does.
It might not make sense to you, but for me, when I go into a
bookstore or when I get really into reading a book or whatever,
or listening to 1 because I haveno time to read anymore.
But it annoys me that I can't say that I'm an author.
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It really annoys me. So what is it that annoys you
that you don't? That to me is your calling.
You know it. It annoys me when I miss an
episode on here every time when I was in my slump and and I took
a sabbatical from the show or I was too busy because I was
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moving and I couldn't sit down in a it annoyed me that I wasn't
here. It annoyed me that I don't have
a book yet. You know, it's and that's,
that's something that it's, it'sfor lack of a better word,
that's, that's your calling. That's something's pushing you
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in that direction. Whatever you know that is, it's
and when when you're when you'repushed in that direction,
normally there's a reason and it, it, it's amazing what what
life can bring you when you whenyou follow that, when you, you
might be scared. I was terrified to push publish.
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On my first episode, so I was soscared, but now it's like I
don't even think about it. I just do it.
And it's, it's so you know, the whole show is about self
improvement for a happier and more fulfilling emphasis on
fulfilling life. And when you find your, your
passion that you're willing to suffer for it and you'll push
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and people around you might lookat you like you're nuts because
you're, you're, you're followingthis thing that they might not
understand. But for you, it just, it makes
so much sense. And when you, when you, when you
do it and you follow through. Yeah.
The fulfillment that you'll feelis.
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Right. Just you talked about being
annoyed by not having this book done.
Yeah, there's probably somebody listening and they're annoyed by
something that's not happening for them, right.
So I'm a musician. I've been doing music for 45
plus years. And when I see somebody who's
better at music than I am, I getannoyed because I've been doing
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this longer than they have. They're like 20 and they're
better than I am. And when I when I see people's
excel, it's something that I am passionate about, suffer and
endure as I see somebody excel in something.
I have two responses. I can either give up and go,
well, Scarlett's a better guitarplayer than I am, so there's no
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way I could be like Scarlett. So I'm giving up.
I'm going to sell all my stuff and I'm packing it in.
I'm never going to play the guitar again.
Yeah, that's one. That's one response.
The second response is, well, ifScarlett can do this, she's got
the same number of fingers that I have.
She's got the same number of strings on her guitar that I
have. So there's nothing different
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about us. It's just she's more disciplined
or she's more active or she's more proficient in her knowledge
than I am. So the only way for me to cut is
just for me to try harder. So I can either give up or I can
practice and I can put invest time.
So if you're annoyed, the fact that your books not happening in
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other people's books are, then writing your book is your
passion that you're willing to suffer and endure for to get to
the point where you're published.
Podcasting, same thing. Other people look easy, It looks
hard for you. We still all have the same 24
hours, right? Everybody's different, but we
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still have the same limitations.So that annoyance could just
simply be a prodding to be creative and find the motivation
to either to not give up, but toto realize that if someone else
can do it, there's a way somehowfor you to follow your passion.
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And, and the, the, the discipline is really hard.
That's part of the suffering, locking myself in this room when
you know they're maybe watching a movie or having fun in the
other room. This temporarily has 2 rooms so
but they're having fun in the other room while I need to have
the discipline to just follow through.
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Yeah. That's all part of the
suffering. Having that discipline is part
of the suffering because it's not always going to be fun and
fluffy. That's good.
Yeah, that's excellent. I think that that wrapped it up
pretty with pretty pretty prettywith a.
Box I think this has been a verypassionate episode.
I have suffered and endured my time with Scarlet.
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Crossing. It was that bad.
You had to suffer. No, it's this is a, this is,
this is a joyful passion. Oh, that's funny.
So yeah, I like. It well, thank you, thank you,
thank you, thank you so much forcarving out time in your day to
be here. Any time for you, Scarlet.
Any time, pleasure, pleasure always to talk to you.
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It's so easy. You're a natural.
Right back at you, my friend, Right back at you.
All righty. Well, to wrap it up, I always
leave you guys with a challenge,so we'll do that.
To quote JJ down in Maine, please pause and think about
what it is that you're passionate about and love
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yourself. Love yourself enough to follow
through and suffer through it. Even if you're you're from
family might call you crazy and think, oh, you could never.
Oh, you can, you can and be aware of the ripple that you
make because we all have one andlet's let's make it a +1.
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All righty. Well as as they've already said,
I would love to hear from you. My website
isclassicchronicles.ca it's in the show notes and we will catch
you next time. Bye.
Bye everybody.
Hi everyone, welcome to classic advice to those of you that are
new. I share stories from my personal
life in order to draw lessons from them to encourage self
improvement for a more fulfilling and happier life.
I have a very special episode for you guys today because I'm
not here alone. I have my dear friend Dave
(00:24):
Campbell here with me. He's come back.
Hello, everybody. Welcome, Dave Campbell.
Say hi. Hello to my favorite podcasting
host, Scarlett Classic, who makes me happy and I can as you
as I listen to your show, Scarlett, I just love.
I love what you do and I love how you do it.
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So thanks. Oh absolutely, absolutely.
It's good to to be back into theswing of things.
And yeah, the move, the move took a lot out of me, but to end
the new job. But I, yeah, today I, I was
actually listening because Dave has not 9 shows now it's 9, not
(01:07):
8, right? So I was editing my website and
I had to change the 8 to a nine yesterday.
So I wanted to confirm that was right.
So Dave has nine shows. One of his shows is called the
How to Podcast series. And one of the episodes, I think
it's 461 if memory serves. You talk about having passion
(01:28):
for your podcast and what that means.
And immediately I was like, oh, Dave has to come on and tell
everybody about passion. So what?
What is passion? OK, so before we jump into this,
your comment to me, Scarlett, about your reaction to this
episode really, really touched me.
(01:50):
Like as podcasters, we create content, we put stuff out in the
world and we don't really know the impact of our words.
And you know, like I recorded this episode, I put it out, I'm
on to the next one. And I almost forgot about what I
even talked about on this episode.
And when you reached out to me, I had to go back and re listen
to it again and imagine myself sitting next to you when you're
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listening to this. So can before we, before I get
into the topic of what we're talking about, can you just tell
people what you said to me kind of your reaction to this
episode? Because that's really meaningful
to me as well. I think.
I think people just need to kindof hear that side of it before
we get into this too. Yes, well, I, I listen to the
episode and obviously you're talking about podcasting in
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general. And obviously I have a show too,
so it was relevant. But the whole time I really it,
it really hit me hard and I was really thinking about where I'm
at now and if you guys are joining for the first time.
I sold my house or me and my husband sold my our house in and
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we moved out and bought a property bare land in July.
We, we came on to the new property and it, it has nothing
on it other than a well, septic and so fancy.
So we're living in our camper and we're going to build our
homestead from scratch. And it's, it's, you know, you
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see those videos of, of van lifeand, and, and camper life and
it's, it's glamorized. It is, it is glamorized right
now. There's snow outside.
You know, it's, it's a nice day.It's, but it's, there's a lot
more to it than it's just being,you know, I don't know, I think
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people hype it up as it being easier than it really is.
And it's, it's, I mean, it's nothard.
It's not too like crazy hard, but it's, you have to really
change the way that you live andyou have to be willing to have
passion for it and, and suffer for it because it's not, you
know, the one day I came home and I was so tired.
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I had a 14 1/2 hour day. Well, probably more like a 15
hour day because we're working at a different site.
My commute is longer and I really just wanted to have a
shower and lay down. But there's no water in my
freshwater tank and it was frozen.
So I'm sitting there trying to get water out of the well from
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my hose and I'm waiting and I'm waiting and it's doing, it's
like spurty thing trying to get water up.
And I'm thinking, oh, no, the line is frozen.
And I'm waiting for probably a good solid minute, which felt
like an hour thinking I'm not going to be able to have a
shower tonight. And it's so when I was listening
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to your episode to rabbit back to your question, I just if you
have a dream, you need to have alot of passion for your dream.
Otherwise it's just it's it's it's gonna really get to you and
you're probably wanna get gonna give up, right?
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So when I was listening to her, I just really hit me.
I was like, yeah, I I need to have a lot of passion for this
or it's not gonna work. Right, which can touch every
part of your life, relationships, your marriage,
your parenting, anything writinga book like all of these things
require passion and the one thing people will say often is
(05:37):
follow your passion and it sounds light and fluffy kind of
like icing on a cake, but it's not light and fluffy.
It's not light and fluffy at all.
We've been lied to Scarlet Classic.
We've been lied to. So that's why I did the episode
because I find in creative places, people will, whatever
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they're creating, they will start strong and then over time
they lose their passion for whatthey do.
And what does that mean? To lose your passion or to
follow your passion, right? Or to live with passion?
And when I looked up the, the Latin root word for passion,
it's passio. PASS I/O for you at home and it
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simply means to suffer or endure.
So I just mentioned to Jen before I came down to talk to
you Scarlett, she says hi. I said to Jen, like I can say I
have a passionate relationship with my wife and that sounds
like, but what it means is I'm willing to suffer and endure
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with my wife in relationship. And she's like, am I that bad?
Like you have to suffer? I'm like, no, no, no.
It's just it's my commitment to go beyond the fields and
understand that in relationshipsthere's going to be times where
we don't like each other, right?And if we have passion, then
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we're suffering and enduring in relationship together.
There's times where we go to work and we suffer and endure.
My passion is my job, right? There's, there's your kids.
I love my kids. I'm passionate about my kids.
I'm willing to suffer and endurefor the sake of my kids to give
them the life that they deserve,right?
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So I think when we say follow your passion or we put passion
into a sentence or we see it on a poster somewhere in the office
to motivate you to do your thing, just remember that it's
based on that Latin root word passio to suffer and endure.
So that was kind of the idea behind the episode and then from
there we just kind of went off on a a tangent.
(07:50):
Yeah, it and it, it, it really did hit because you know, if you
just follow, follow the the light and fluffy or the, OR your
feelings, right, you're not always going to want to feel
like if you're writing a book, like writing or, you know, lots
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of people start podcasting and then pod fade or whatever, they
lose their quote UN quote passion for it or their their
love for it and then they stop. Because if you're, and I know
I've mentioned this on the show before, you know, for doing
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things, even though you don't, you don't feel like doing it in
the moment, but you do it anywaybecause you have to like you're
hungry. So you go cook.
You have to you don't feel like cooking all the time.
I hate cooking. So that's very relevant to me.
You know, it's just it, it's sort of to find your to find
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your, your, your. I don't know that passions.
That doesn't even feel like the right word right now, but to you
have to be willing to suffer forit to go to the room, lock
yourself in the room like I am right now and and do the thing,
even though you may not, becauseyou're not going to want to feel
like doing it all the time. You're not going to want to feel
like, you know, I'm living a camp right now.
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I really didn't feel like standing outside with the hose
trying to bring water up. Oh, I will so I could have a
shower. You know you're not going to get
you questioning your life choices in that moment because
if you're not willing to suffer for the end goal, that's going
to take years to get there, right?
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Right. It's.
And OK, I remember walking. I've mentioned this to you.
I remember walking with you and Jen, my wife Jen in Calgary
downtown, getting lost and then finding our way.
Anyway, we did a lot of walking,a lot of walking.
We're like, oh, we're back to where we started anyways.
But I remember you sharing your passion for this dream you had
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for to go and create your own place and do what you're doing
right now. And your, your, your voice was
full of excitement, a little bitof nervousness for doing a big
change in your family, but it was your passion.
I'm so passionate about this. I want to build this new life
and new homestead. And you kept going on and on and
(10:29):
on and generally like, wow, thatseems like a big goal to make
that big change with a, with a, a family too.
Like I'm like, we're cheering you on.
And then to see you follow your passion to suffer and endure A
peeing amount of water that comes out of your wells.
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So you can't have a shower like you, you are, you are suffering
and enduring right now. You are following your passion
and again, I just want people tounderstand how the the other
side of passion is is perseverance.
It's your ability to endure wheneverything tells you to stop,
(11:11):
when you don't feel motivated. That's where passion comes from.
You're living it in real time bydoing what you guys are doing as
a family. So that's inspiring and I'm glad
you're sharing that on your showbecause that piece, which might
seem like to you just things in the moment that you're dealing
with. We're following your journey as
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listeners. I'm a listener of your show.
We're following your your journey as a listener and
hearing your passion on display.You're building in public, which
I love so. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's yeah. So it's not, it's not going to
always be easy, is what I'm trying to, you know,
communicate. And it's what, what do you do
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when, when you're in the suffering stage, right?
Like what say for your podcast like, because you can't, you
have 9 shows. Like you can't always want to be
like super ecstatic to go downstairs in your basement.
What do you do when you're in that suffering stage?
(12:18):
Well, when I'm, when I'm on to my eighth interview, that day,
yeah, that day. Not that week, that day, you
kind of get a little bit cranky and you get a little bit like
mentally exhausted because you've had these amazing
conversations and you have to beon.
I'm an introvert, so for me to be on and engaged with humans,
(12:44):
it's interesting. I just did an episode on Dead
Space, which just went out today, and here's kind of the
overview the difference between an introvert and an extrovert,
right? We're kind of going a little
tangent, but I'll keep it short.An introvert starts every day
with five coins in their hand. OK?
That's how our day starts. And over the period of the day,
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we give away a coin in interactions with other people
until we run out. When we run out, we go back to
our safe place and recharge. OK, so we're giving away our
coins. An extrovert, which is my wife
Jennifer, starts her day with 0 coins in her hands and every
interaction gives her a new coin.
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So she's collecting coins. By the end of the day, she's got
armfuls and buckets full of coins because it's just how that
feeds her. So I'm giving away my coins and
she's collecting coins. So we're opposites in that
moment, right? And for me, I'm just, I was
trying to talk about on that show that introverts are not
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broken extroverts. Like we don't need to be fixed.
We need to be understood, right?And so as I'm kind of working
through this in my mind, I'm just thinking, you know, we, we
just need to have some, some space for each other and
understand how each other works.And I think that's another
component to all of this idea around passion because when I'm
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giving and giving and giving as a podcast host and interviewing
people and having great conversations, I'm running out
of coins right? To my wife, a podcast would be
great because she just gets moreand more coins.
I'm giving them away. So I do have to have a time to
kind of recharge and rebuild. And it's trying to find the
(14:34):
moments to find time to recharge.
It's hard for me to do, but I'vebeen a introvert my whole life,
so I've been doing this for a long time.
So I do have some tools in my tool chest that help me, but I
think that's just one thing to keep in mind, 'cause you're
either 11 or the other most likely.
And there's, there's combinations.
But I say if you're an extrovert, don't try to fix an
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introvert. If you're an introvert, you
that's not an excuse to hide. So you still have to push
yourself out there. So that's kind of my, it's kind
of my, that's kind of how I dealwith all of the things going on.
What's right now? So you mentioned your, your
tools. What are you?
What are some of the tools? Just some examples.
Just I need to, I need to read myself, I need to know my
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limits. Like I could, I could open my
calendar and I could interview people 24 hours a day, but I
can't physically do that. So I do have to limit myself.
I give myself a day off every week where I have nothing on my
calendar. So that's kind of a, that's like
a, a reward where I, my mentallydon't have to show up that day.
(15:43):
I can go putt around and do other things and not be on, you
know, and Jen's at work. I'm home by myself with the dogs
and the cat and the turtle and that's my day to just do what I
want to do without having to be responsible for anybody else.
That's so I build that in my day, that in my week.
So that kind of helps. Yeah, and that's, I think that's
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really key. Like I grew up in a a very
religious home. So Sunday's was always the
recharge. Other than we went to church, it
was the recharge date. Like we weren't extreme like,
you know, like we still, you know, my mom would cook, but she
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would just do really easy meals.So she prep kind of for
Saturday. So Sunday would be a really
easy, you know, throw something in the oven and let it do its
thing. And then it was just a nice day
that we didn't have to do chores.
Saturday was normally kind of a gong show at growing up.
We would do all the chores just in one day, like, you know, the,
(16:53):
the vacuuming and the whatever, right?
Or, but then we all, we always set aside one day a week.
That was the recharge day. That was the just hang out, do
whatever you want. And it's, it's a, it's a really
(17:13):
good tool to have in your chest when you're getting, when you're
in that suffering stage to, to and recognizing it.
You know, like you said, that you learned to recognize it.
I, I think that's really key too, because sometimes I'm
really cranky and I have to havethat self-awareness to be like,
(17:36):
oh, OK, this is what's going on.I just had a really long day,
you know, don't take it out on anybody else.
Just recognize the fact that you're really overwhelmed or
maybe oversimulated from whatever.
Because I, you know, I in construction, so there's noise
all the time, right? And it's, it's funny because
(17:58):
I'm, I'm hard of hearing, you know, I'm half deaf, but I don't
wear my hearing aids because noise overstimulates me.
So recognizing that like sometimes I'll just, you know, I
have an hour and 1520 minute drive home.
I don't listen to the radio, I don't listen to anything.
I'm just just the silence, right?
And that's part of me rechargingbecause I'm, I'm just
(18:22):
decompressing through my day, not having any input.
Yeah, right. No, no podcasting.
No, like nothing for my brain toto distract, to just decompress
and have the silence to just wind down from a long hard day
or whatever. You see, you said no podcast.
How dare you? I know.
(18:43):
Scarlet. Classic I know how.
Dare you? But you know, and, and so, yeah,
recognizing when you're in it and, and you know, if you're an
introvert, extrovert, deal with that accordingly, right.
And, and, and taking that one atleast that one day a week where
(19:05):
you can just, and it's hard whenI'm on normally we were kind of
winding down through the season now and then I'm going to get my
seasonal layoff. So it's a little bit different
hours now. Now I have weekends off, but our
regular schedule is 11 days in arow and then three days off.
(19:26):
So you're working, you know, youget every second weekend off
basically. So like to have that one day a
week is not gonna, it's, it's not gonna be there because you
have to work that day. But still, I try to when I am on
those days, you know, to have one one day or that I can come
(19:52):
home and not do chores. So we make sure the water
stocked, you know, other than feed the dogs, whatever.
But you know, to, it can be challenging, you know, if you
have a schedule like I do, but it's, I think it's important to
take a day, right? Yeah.
And it all goes back to that passion again, right.
(20:14):
I just think that when we talk about passion and that enduring
part and to suffer, I just thinkwe have it kind of backwards
that passion is a result of something good all the time.
It's an up for us. And when it's not an up, we're
confused because it's like all I'm doing is following my
(20:36):
passion. But why is this so hard?
Should be easy. This is my passion, right?
This is what I want to do is what I love to do.
My job is what I get to do and my passion is what I want to do.
But then when it's difficult, we're like, well, this
shouldn't, this doesn't make sense.
If my passion is my thing that lights me up, then why is it so
(20:57):
hard? It's because it's your passion
and your passion is based on suffering and endurance.
So understand that and whatever that is for you and your
journey, again, your relationships, your, your kids,
your partner, your work life, a creative project, whatever
you're doing, building a building a house in the middle
(21:18):
of nowhere, like it's going to cost you something.
And I don't think that people understand the costs associated
to passion, right? It sounds, it's again, it sounds
warm and fuzzy to have this passion project, but you're
actually asking for a whole lot of hurt and you just need to be
aware of that. And then like you take time for
(21:42):
yourself to recharge, you need to take time for yourself in
your passions to, to have some kind of support to help you
through those moments when the suffering and endurance is too
hard to continue the passion, right?
Then you need people around you who also believe in you or see
(22:03):
your, the results of your passion and go cheer you on,
right? And go, you can do this and we
believe in you. And if you don't have those
people, you need to find some people like that, you know, like
I have you like it's, it's greatto have people in this world who
think about you when you're not in the room.
(22:23):
That is so cool. Like, and then when you reached
out to me and said you enjoyed this episode of my show, I was
just like, wow, our words have meaning.
Our words have purpose. And if we can help people and
share our journey, share our passions, then maybe somebody
listening could then be inspiredto do the thing they're
(22:43):
passionate about, work through the suffering and endurance.
Because they've had an example from someone else who builds in
public and shares the hard things and and the fun things.
And we get to walk along beside you and see you build your life.
Those are the best videos on YouTube.
Somebody building a cabin in themiddle of the woods, like you
(23:04):
guys to follow. That is like so inspiring
because we're watching somebody live their passion and we see
them cut their finger, fall off a ladder, you know, a tree falls
on them, whatever, a bear chasesthem through the woods.
You're we're living our we're living through you vicariously.
We're watching your journey and going wow.
(23:27):
I'd love to follow my passion and do blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah. But I can watch Scarlett and her
family do it and go, wow, if shecan do it, then I can do it
right? Well, exactly.
And that that circles back to who you surround yourself with.
So if you have a real passion for, you know, whatever it may
(23:50):
be, insert your dream here. If you find other people that
have a parallel dream. Yeah, it can Really, Really, it
can really, really, really help you.
And that's where you can find community too.
So for example, when I was thinking of starting a podcast,
(24:11):
I didn't know where to start. Found your show and you have the
the meet up group, right. And on meet up, there's there's
groups for everything on there. You know, there's groups for I'm
a part of a writing group on there.
I've only gone once, but they are, I know, wow, wow, wow.
There's only so many hours in the day.
(24:33):
But there's, you know, there's ways to find people that have
similar interests. And if you surround yourself
with people with a shared goal or a shared dream, it can
really, really, really, really help you.
And that that's the leaning intoyour community, which I am.
I'm not good at. I, I'm really good at being
(24:55):
there for other people and I need to learn to let other
people be there for me. And that's, that's one of my own
fault. But you know, having that
self-awareness, it's going to help down the road, right, to,
to recognize, oh, I'm falling into a slump.
I'm, I'm in the, the suffering stage of following my passion
(25:16):
and following my dream. What do I do?
OK, let's go look in the toolboxand pull out our OK, well, maybe
we need a rest day. Maybe we're maybe we're running
too hard too fast and and finding those man manageable,
cutting it into bite size pieces.
Like in the meet up group last week, you did a live recording
(25:40):
on the show and one of the things that you do is you do a
recording, then you stop your recording, regroup, you do the
next section stop, next section stop.
And it's it's bite sized little pieces.
And one of the things that I have to recognize like I was on,
I was on 10 hours days. I was getting home a lot earlier
(26:00):
and I was like, OK, well, I can write a little bit half an hour
on my book, half an hour on my podcast, whether that's writing
emails or whatever. I try to record on weekends and
then I do all the background stuff during the week.
And then we moved sites and now I'm on 12 hour days again.
I'm getting home later. It's a farther away site.
I, I couldn't, there was no humanly way possible that I
(26:25):
could work on my book or work onmy show all last week because
it's, there's just only 24 hoursin a day and I still have to
sleep and I still have to eat and I still have to be a mom
sleep. Yeah.
And it's. So then I was like, OK, well,
you know what? It's only for a couple more
weeks. It is what it is.
(26:46):
I'll just work a little bit, youknow, I'll take some chunks out
during, during the weekend to doa little bit more work.
I did a bunch of batch recordings.
So I am ahead of myself now, youknow, and, and, and having those
realistic goals, that is, is pretty vital because if you put
(27:08):
too, too much on your plate, there's only so much that you're
or so long that you're going to be able to sustain that.
And then you're just going to gointo a crash, which is what I
do. I'll put way too much on and
then I'll just and then I'll wonder why can't I do this?
Right, so I have some classic advice for people who listen to
(27:31):
this show. OK, because you always do the
classic advice. I want to do the classic advice
and I want to be your host because I love how you say host.
That's the coolest thing ever. I just, it makes me smile every
time you do your intro. My classic advice, everyone who
listens to this show, Scarlett gives so much on this podcast.
(27:55):
She just keeps showing up and there's days again, like we
don't feel like. And I, I know as a listener, you
might not understand what happens behind the scene for
podcasters, but I'm asking you to encourage Scarlett in.
She's got like her buy me a coffee.
She's got her website, she's gota calendar invites.
It's hard to fit people into your calendar, but she puts it
(28:17):
out there. My encouragement to everyone
that listens to the show. You might assume that Scarlett
knows that you appreciate her, but she doesn't know for sure.
And I would encourage you to reach out to Scarlett and and
leave her a message Somehow. Voice messages are, are great
'cause we can play them over andover and over again and obsess
(28:38):
over them because it's like, Oh my gosh, it's the voice of my
listener. Oh gosh.
It's really, really fun as a podcaster to get feedback.
And like I said, you'll buy a book and you'll never leave a
review, right? It's like, they know I like it.
I bought the book. They know I like Scarlett's
show. I listened.
And you think that's enough? It's not enough.
(28:58):
It isn't. Scarlett would love to hear from
you. That's the community side of
what she does. And she just said for herself,
it's hard to build community forherself, but she knows what it's
like to be a part of someone else's community.
So we, and I'm speaking as a listener of the show.
So I am one of Scarlett's community members.
(29:18):
By listening to the show is to be actively in the comments.
If you're on Spotify, leave comments in the episode.
You can leave a comment in this episode and, you know, talk
about your passion or something,but leave something related to
the episode and put that in there.
However you listen, there's probably a way to make a
comment. And if not, go to their website,
(29:40):
Classic Chronicles. And you can, you can, you can do
all this. You can be one of the supports
to help Scarlett and her family follow her passions.
So that's my classic advice moment.
Dave's hijacking the show. I just want people to hear that.
You might anticipate that Scarlett just knows how much you
(30:01):
appreciate her show, but she probably would like to hear it
more often. So she hasn't asked me to do
this. This is just one podcaster
helping another podcaster, but Ireally encourage you to do that
today and don't put it off because it's it's fuel in our
tank. That's the other part.
You have to refuel your tank in rest.
(30:23):
But having people appreciate your efforts and support you
super important. So that's my ask.
Aw, thanks, Dave. That was so sweet.
Yeah. And it, it, it is important.
You know, one of the things we do as as a family is whenever
we're on a phone call or before we leave the house, we always
(30:45):
say, I love you. We say I love you a lot in my in
my family, like annoyingly a lot.
But you just never know. You just never know when it's
going to be your last time leaving the house because
anything can happen. And that's, that's one of the
things we do because we always leave the conversations with.
(31:07):
And I love you does really annoyme sometimes, but it is what it
is. You suffer for your marriage,
But it, it is, it comes back with, with, with giving that
feedback because you know, it's,I don't, I don't think it is sad
enough. And, and you know, I do, I do
(31:28):
really, really, really love hearing from my listeners and
it's even 11 little e-mail here and there or one little response
or like, or when I log into my my account and see, oh, someone,
you know, left a review or, or, or sent me an e-mail, it's or
(31:51):
someone booked time. It's like it, it, it, it really
does probably mean a lot more than than you think.
And it's, you know, if you, if you just think about, you know,
when's the last time someone at work told you did a good job and
how much that means to you. Or when your kids just light up
(32:11):
when they show you some weird little Lego thing that they
built and you just go over the top and say, wow, that's really
cool. Like, what's this dude?
And what's that dude? And what's this piece mean?
And they just light up and they go right into it.
And then sometimes I'll ask, youknow, Riley, something will be
like, oh, I never thought about that.
And he's like, well, it's for this.
And he just makes something up on the moment, but he's so happy
about it. You know what I mean?
(32:31):
Like it's when you when you givepeople that feedback, it does.
It does mean a lot when you're, especially when you're going
through those moments of place really hard right now.
Yeah, yeah. And think about as you listen to
this, when you go to work tomorrow and you're sitting in
(32:52):
the lunch room or you're interacting with the Co workers
and somebody says something like, you know, on my days off,
I do blink, whatever that is. I golf, I write a book, I'm a
podcaster, whatever that is, right.
And as you listen to that, you're like, I don't have
anything that I do for myself onmy personal time that lights me
(33:15):
up. I don't have a passion.
I my job is my thing. I can when I'm home, I'm just
watching Netflix. Like what's your passion?
What is the thing that you look forward to on the days when you
have personal time? Could be your family, could be
(33:35):
painting, it could be drawing, reading, podcasting.
There's so many different things, right?
Gardening, getting water out of a well, when you want to have a
shower. There's a lot of things that are
your passion, right? But if you're feeling like don't
feel judged in this, but if you're feeling like, I don't
know what my passion is like, I haven't really given myself
(33:56):
permission to pursue my passion,then maybe think about what
lights you up. Make a list makes.
There's on my dad's face podcast.
I talk a lot about the fact thatwe as men can lose ourself over
time. There was something you love to
do back in the day that you werecompletely obsessed with, but
(34:16):
life, career, family gets in theway at a point where you've lost
track of the things that you love to do in the past.
Re engage with the things that was your passion before and why
you loved what you loved back then, whatever that is, and
reignite that passion. So don't be, don't be jealous of
(34:39):
someone else's passion, but be inspired by it.
And if you have, if you're lacking in that department, then
create the space to to find joy and passion again in your
journey. So that's just my encouragement.
Don't feel judged by it, but letit be an encouragement for you
that if other people can find something to be passionate
(35:00):
about, so can you. Just you just got to figure out
what that is. Oh, that was that was really,
really beautiful what you just said.
I'd really, really like that. Like, couldn't have said it
better. What great advice.
Yeah. Because it's, it's very, very
easy. And you know, as parents to get
(35:23):
so wrapped up in the job of a parent that you lose yourself.
It's so easy, you know, between I, I, you know, my kids aren't
in sports. We live out in the middle of the
nowhere. The hours that I work.
It's just I, I can't, I can't beeverywhere at once.
I don't know how people like that do it.
I just, I don't know. I don't.
(35:43):
You're superhuman. But it's so easy with all those
little tasks to, to lose yourself and what you used to
love. And maybe you haven't found it
yet. Maybe I never, if someone would
have told me, you know, how longhave I been passed?
For like a year and a half, I'vebeen podcasting.
(36:05):
If somebody would have told me two years ago that I would have
fallen in love with podcasting, I would have given them a really
weird thought because I never even, it never even dawned on
me, you know, it was just I started listening to them a lot.
And then I started having this thought and feeling that, hey,
(36:25):
you know what? I think I would really enjoy
that. Yeah, well, Scarlett, you're a
natural. First of all, you are a natural.
And I think everyone that would listens to your show like I do
would agree with me that every time you come on the mic, you're
talking to one person, you're talking to me and the
companionship I feel through themicrophone.
(36:46):
There's nothing fake about you at all.
Like I just, I lean in. I look forward to seeing that
notification on my phone that there's some more classic advice
in my, in my day, right. So as a, as a, again, as a
member of your community, I juston behalf of everyone else, I
just want to say thank you for how you show up on this show.
(37:06):
Like you say that you can't imagine yourself at one point
ever being a podcaster. I can't imagine you not being a
podcaster. Well, that means so much to me.
You don't even know. You don't even know.
Yeah, that means that means a lot.
But my point was like, maybe you, maybe you haven't found it
yet. Yeah.
(37:27):
And just just look, just just keep, keep your eye out, keep
your ear listening. And, and you, if you look out
for it, then I think you're gonna find it.
Yeah, and maybe ask somebody whoknows you well, like, what am I
good at? Like what?
What do I talk about a lot that make you roll your eyes?
(37:49):
When you talk about. Star Wars way too much OK, well,
maybe that's my passion or maybeI love you pick pick your
favorite sports team and that's what I talked about in my
episode. People are passionate about
their sports teams, which means that they will suffer and endure
for the sake of their team. Even when their team sucks,
(38:10):
there's still a fan right we think of Toronto Maple Leafs
here in Canada. Those fans suffer and endure for
a team that just can't win for some reason, they just can't.
They can't win the Cup, right? But their their fans are
passionate about that team, likepassionate.
So that's a great example of of passion in practice.
(38:36):
Is. Suffering and enduring for
something that's not working, but still a fan, right?
Still cheering people on. And something that you know
what, it's for me, like when someone says or even when like I
love reading and I and I go intoa bookstore and it, I was
(38:56):
telling Roy, I was like, it's it, it does.
It might not make sense to you, but for me, when I go into a
bookstore or when I get really into reading a book or whatever,
or listening to 1 because I haveno time to read anymore.
But it annoys me that I can't say that I'm an author.
(39:18):
It really annoys me. So what is it that annoys you
that you don't? That to me is your calling.
You know it. It annoys me when I miss an
episode on here every time when I was in my slump and and I took
a sabbatical from the show or I was too busy because I was
(39:42):
moving and I couldn't sit down in a it annoyed me that I wasn't
here. It annoyed me that I don't have
a book yet. You know, it's and that's,
that's something that it's, it'sfor lack of a better word,
that's, that's your calling. That's something's pushing you
(40:02):
in that direction. Whatever you know that is, it's
and when when you're when you'repushed in that direction,
normally there's a reason and it, it, it's amazing what what
life can bring you when you whenyou follow that, when you, you
might be scared. I was terrified to push publish.
(40:24):
On my first episode, so I was soscared, but now it's like I
don't even think about it. I just do it.
And it's, it's so you know, the whole show is about self
improvement for a happier and more fulfilling emphasis on
fulfilling life. And when you find your, your
passion that you're willing to suffer for it and you'll push
(40:49):
and people around you might lookat you like you're nuts because
you're, you're, you're followingthis thing that they might not
understand. But for you, it just, it makes
so much sense. And when you, when you, when you
do it and you follow through. Yeah.
The fulfillment that you'll feelis.
(41:13):
Right. Just you talked about being
annoyed by not having this book done.
Yeah, there's probably somebody listening and they're annoyed by
something that's not happening for them, right.
So I'm a musician. I've been doing music for 45
plus years. And when I see somebody who's
better at music than I am, I getannoyed because I've been doing
(41:37):
this longer than they have. They're like 20 and they're
better than I am. And when I when I see people's
excel, it's something that I am passionate about, suffer and
endure as I see somebody excel in something.
I have two responses. I can either give up and go,
well, Scarlett's a better guitarplayer than I am, so there's no
(41:59):
way I could be like Scarlett. So I'm giving up.
I'm going to sell all my stuff and I'm packing it in.
I'm never going to play the guitar again.
Yeah, that's one. That's one response.
The second response is, well, ifScarlett can do this, she's got
the same number of fingers that I have.
She's got the same number of strings on her guitar that I
have. So there's nothing different
(42:20):
about us. It's just she's more disciplined
or she's more active or she's more proficient in her knowledge
than I am. So the only way for me to cut is
just for me to try harder. So I can either give up or I can
practice and I can put invest time.
So if you're annoyed, the fact that your books not happening in
(42:41):
other people's books are, then writing your book is your
passion that you're willing to suffer and endure for to get to
the point where you're published.
Podcasting, same thing. Other people look easy, It looks
hard for you. We still all have the same 24
hours, right? Everybody's different, but we
(43:01):
still have the same limitations.So that annoyance could just
simply be a prodding to be creative and find the motivation
to either to not give up, but toto realize that if someone else
can do it, there's a way somehowfor you to follow your passion.
(43:24):
And, and the, the, the discipline is really hard.
That's part of the suffering, locking myself in this room when
you know they're maybe watching a movie or having fun in the
other room. This temporarily has 2 rooms so
but they're having fun in the other room while I need to have
the discipline to just follow through.
(43:47):
Yeah. That's all part of the
suffering. Having that discipline is part
of the suffering because it's not always going to be fun and
fluffy. That's good.
Yeah, that's excellent. I think that that wrapped it up
pretty with pretty pretty prettywith a.
Box I think this has been a verypassionate episode.
I have suffered and endured my time with Scarlet.
(44:07):
Crossing. It was that bad.
You had to suffer. No, it's this is a, this is,
this is a joyful passion. Oh, that's funny.
So yeah, I like. It well, thank you, thank you,
thank you, thank you so much forcarving out time in your day to
be here. Any time for you, Scarlet.
Any time, pleasure, pleasure always to talk to you.
(44:30):
It's so easy. You're a natural.
Right back at you, my friend, Right back at you.
All righty. Well, to wrap it up, I always
leave you guys with a challenge,so we'll do that.
To quote JJ down in Maine, please pause and think about
what it is that you're passionate about and love
(44:55):
yourself. Love yourself enough to follow
through and suffer through it. Even if you're you're from
family might call you crazy and think, oh, you could never.
Oh, you can, you can and be aware of the ripple that you
make because we all have one andlet's let's make it a +1.
(45:22):
All righty. Well as as they've already said,
I would love to hear from you. My website
isclassicchronicles.ca it's in the show notes and we will catch
you next time. Bye.
Bye everybody.
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