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May 21, 2025 • 38 mins

šŸ“˜ Episode Synopsis

In this powerful and honest episode, Dr. Joey Weisler sits down with clinical psychologist and neurodiversity advocate Dr. Matt Zakreski for a transformative conversation about what it really means to teach and support gifted and neurodivergent students. Together, they unpack failure, challenge superhero narratives in education, and explore how flexible pedagogy can create spaces where all kinds of minds are seen, supported, and celebrated. With stories from the classroom and the clinic, this episode is a candid reflection on how to change the narrative—not just for our students, but for ourselves.

šŸ“ Show Notes

Guest: Dr. Matt Zakreski

Host: Dr. Joey Weisler

Podcast: Classroom Narratives: Healing in Education

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šŸ” Key Ideas from This Episode:

  • Why ā€œyour brain is not a problem to solve—it’s a story to understandā€
  • The danger of the ā€œgifted kid = superheroā€ myth
  • Using flexible pedagogy to honor different learning styles
  • A fresh take on failure: from shame to strategy
  • Interest-Based Learning (IBL) as a tool for engagement and healing
  • Why rigid systems lead to burnout—for both students and educators
  • Creating learning environments that invite student agency
  • Educator honesty and vulnerability as acts of transformation
  • Rethinking assessment: choice as a form of equity
  • Reimagining what success looks like in modern education

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