May 15, 2023 • 30 mins
Welcome to the very first episode of the Clearly Cultured Podcast! That Mexican OT joins our hosts Mike Mills, Young Jas and J Mac at The Closet store front right on top of the Legendary Johnny Dang's jewelry shop! That Mexican OT Talks rapping for his pop's friends, why he got signed so early with Interscope and his fish skin boots!
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You are now tuned in to Clearly Cultured!
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So we got episode one of the Clearly Cultured podcast.
Live from the closet storefront on the entire second floor of the world famous Johnny Dangs.
And we had to start interview one with a bang.
We got Texas' own, that Mexican OT.
And I'm out here with my family from the Clearly Cultured podcast.
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We got J-Mac, Young Jas from 979 the Box.
Yup, the voices of the city.
And now, guys, you're all ready to do our podcast.
We doing something different now, you guys.
This one's been in the works for a minute too.
Let me just say that.
So we about to come out big.
There's no other way to come.
Well, let's get started, Jazz.
Bet.
All right, well, let's introduce our guest one time again.
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Thank you so much for coming.
He was on time, y'all.
He was, you know, everything.
So listen, let's start with, let's take it all the way back.
Like, how did you first get started to music?
Well, before we even get into that, I want to thank all of y'all
for having me, you know what I'm saying?
And it's crazy as fuck hearing y'all's voice live too,
you know what I'm saying?
It's cool.
My dog and Mike right here, you know what I'm saying?
Got punched in with them.
And it's a pleasure, bro.
I'm really getting to the beginning of what I'm doing.
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And it's exciting.
So, you know what I'm saying?
Like I said earlier, you know what y'all doing?
Having me here and just supporting and even just
liking and reposting little things like that.
You know, I can't do this without y'all.
So for that, I'm forever grateful.
I'm forever going hard, you know what I'm saying?
I'm excited to be here, let's go.
Told y'all he was live, I told y'all.
That boy is excited to be here.
And I'm glad you said that.
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I want you to take me back around the time
when your mama was alive.
And she was watching 106 in park.
Take me to that feeling.
Man, it was cool.
It's like flashes, you know what I'm saying?
I can't remember anything, you know, too vivid.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't want to say she manifested it for me
because I feel like people just kind of use that word.
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I don't know, it's a weird word now.
But she put it in the air for me, you know what I'm saying?
Right.
So for that, you know, it's cool as fuck
to see why I'm mad with it, you know?
But I don't know, man, I can't really
tell you too much of a feel.
You know, I just remember, you know, kind of flashes of it.
I remember my mama always had fucking hot ass,
hot ass big reds under the sink too.
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We always had hot pockets for dinner.
Every night, I promised to you.
My mama was, you know, she was young, you know what I'm saying?
So she was still being a kid while raising kids,
you know what I'm saying?
So it was cool.
I definitely wish she got to see this shit now.
But, you know.
And the reason I say that?
As soon as I was talking, like, I was rapping,
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like not even saying shit, just rhyming words, you know?
I'm not even words, just rhyming, you know what I'm saying?
English dance phase?
No, nothing, just delivery.
Just delivery.
And you know what?
The reason I thought about that, because, you know,
I lost my mom also.
And you know that Mother's Day is coming up.
And I know you did a song for your mother,
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because I've been watching you for quite some time.
I never got to hear that song.
Could you give me some of those lyrics?
Do you remember them?
If you do, could you please give me some of those lyrics?
Yeah, the verse.
I mean, if it's going to make you too emotional.
You want, like, the hook or the verse or what?
Yeah, give me the hook, the verse.
Give me some of it.
The hook say, I'm going to slide.
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I'm going to ride.
And if it comes to my family or money, somebody's going to die.
I'm going to try not to cry.
Well, I'm recording this song, because I got so much pain inside.
You can see it in my eye.
I had seen some things.
Even when it's sunny, I still feel the rain.
Overdose and on the pears, I still feel the pain.
I still feel the pain.
I'm going to push it with some yappas and choppers,
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and I'm going to act up.
I'm going to pop them on this head,
and I'm going to have them call it for backup.
He say, you got four people pushing up.
I'm going to crack them, do them boys like mosquitoes,
one on fishing.
I'm going to whack them right now, God.
I'm trying to bless me.
I know the devil going to test me.
The devil think he can beat me by the titan relation.
I'm going to slide on them.
I'm going to ride on them.
Put that nine on them.
Fuck it with my little baby brother.
Bitch, I'm going to die for them.
He the only thing I got left of my mother since she died.
If he say, need to be brother, baby, believe I'm going to slide.
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I'm going to step on mama, check on crashing.
Now we think a lot.
Put them drums on them.
Knick canisters.
Then pop, pop, pop.
I'm going to go kid, cheat, nick class.
I'm looking for some answers.
I'll push them to that ER.
One D, because I got cancer.
I'm going to put a rocket in my pocket, then cock, clap, clap, play with them.
Run and knock, gun and dime.
I take away his stamina.
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I'm going to slide.
I feel bad, man.
You know what?
You know it's crazy how that song by a good two years, two years old, almost two years
old.
I held the video for about a year and a half.
I didn't like it at first.
At the time, all I was doing was just so much like a Grecipe and hardcore rap.
Then I started learning what's the difference was of making the song.
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My doggy G as a legend right there.
Y'all don't even understand.
Oh my goodness.
Y'all know who that is?
Yeah.
Okay.
Just making sure.
Anyways, from the hardcore aggressive stuff, now I'm just learning how to make actual songs
and putting, being vulnerable.
Because not everybody can relate to hitting cocaine and fisting bullet holes.
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I had to switch it up sometimes.
Okay.
You put everything for everybody.
When was the first video or thing that you saw really start to go crazy?
I went live.
It was like 2019 and I was in the dub.
I was in the country with my grandparents and shit, I wasn't doing nothing.
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I was just being fucking dumb.
And then my uncle Mo had a studio, the ones you were talking about earlier.
So shit.
I was doing that easy accent.
Boom.
I'm in there recording music.
And one day this dude named Roddy Roddy, he was my cousin's homeboy.
He heard the song.
It was like, bro, I got to jump on it.
Please let me jump on it.
So I ended up letting him jump on it.
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And keep in mind, I'm doing this because there's fucking nothing else to do.
I'm not getting no job.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not.
I'm just, I don't know what the fuck I was on.
Anyways, we ended up doing a video tour after we recorded that he had a homeboy named Kurt
Go.
And I got a boy named Kurt Go, he finished shooting the video, we were going to get it
dropped, all this and that.
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I'm like, man, fuck it.
I ain't got nothing else to do.
Let's do it.
Boom.
Drop that hoe.
And when I dropped it, it went 15K, 20K, 30K, 40K.
It got stuck at 45K.
And I was maybe about probably like a month.
And I didn't, I didn't do it.
No problem.
I'm not doing nothing.
I just dropped it off.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
I didn't expect that.
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You know what I'm saying?
Right.
So it went crazy.
I dropped another one, that one went dumb, did another one.
And now I'm getting like 15, 20K, 30K views.
You know what I'm saying?
And this is just in my county.
Like I was already known, but I was already known just because people love me.
Like you know what I'm saying?
I'm a good person.
I'm cool as fuck.
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You know what I'm saying?
I show love everywhere.
You know what I'm saying?
Like so, I'm an likable person.
So like already off the rips.
Oh, I'll teach you music.
We out damn it.
You know what I'm saying?
I really support you.
Exactly.
So, and then it just grew from there.
Word to mouth.
You know what I'm saying?
I started doing a little shit here and there.
And yeah, what are we going to have?
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That's all right.
For the people who don't know that Mexican OT, give me three songs that would introduce
you to them.
For the person who never heard of you.
What are the three songs they should listen to?
Just imagine, I've never heard of you.
I don't know who you are.
Give me three songs that can explain that Mexican OT.
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Just like that.
Man, I'll tell you pick one.
It's like this new.
It's like this new?
Anything.
Anything.
The whole music is good one.
Oh, you know what?
Okay, and I like that.
He has a lot of confidence.
And he said anything.
Most people, they will give you the songs.
And speaking of that, what makes you think you're so hot?
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Because I heard you say that you're the hottest Mexican rapper.
Why do you think that?
Tell me why.
I mean, shit, if I don't believe myself, I'll fuck you, you know?
Right.
But not only that, I mean, fuck.
Listen to it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I was blessed, bro.
You know, I go to these shows and I rock out.
I got to eat out my hands.
Shout out to my motherfucking fans, bro.
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Like they cut.
I just got done doing a song with Love It, Colorado.
Just got back from over there.
I was in Dallas fucking with some people over there.
Just got done rocking out over there.
You know, often just tour, FNB and corpus.
This Saturday, motherfucking, I'm FNB at a car show.
And they're lit every fucking time, bro.
You opened up for Wayne, right?
Last week?
Yes, and they're lit.
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Man, shout out to Fee.
New Wayne.
Shout out to Fee, bro.
That was the last minute thing.
Up for my dog, he punched me in there like that.
So that's cool.
Fee Banks.
Many blessings, baby.
Anyways, that's why I'm the hottest, because I work for it.
I like that.
I'm determined to be the hottest.
You know what I'm saying?
And not only that, I fucking love what the fuck I do.
Like I said, brother, if I'm getting paid or not, I'm going to be doing it.
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Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
Now you're sounding like that Mexican OT.
Which gives me to the point.
Beyonce had the beehive.
That's her fans.
How do you describe your fans?
Man, it's too early.
Too early?
Too early.
They don't give themselves a name already?
They haven't?
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Even if they don't give themselves a name, you said they're loyal.
You said they be there for you.
I promise to you.
I promise to you.
Even little stuff.
Like somebody hating in the comments, boom, I'm talking about from one comment to 30 to
40 on their ads.
I'm telling you.
You know what I'm saying?
That's real.
That's different.
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Wow.
Speaking of you open up for Wayne's stuff, which artists or like what kind of music did you
grow up listening to?
Everything.
Everything.
I was riding around with my dad and my dad, riding around.
I'm a passenger seat.
My mom and my dad, they was young.
So they was into all of it.
And they still had around.
They was around that time with my grandparents.
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They was still jamming with them.
They was jamming too.
What?
You know what I'm saying?
So like, does that make sense?
I understand.
Tell me your list because I know what your list is.
I bet you Jazz don't know anything in your list.
I mean, I can hit you with some rap easily.
I can show you.
Anything.
Whatever your top five was.
Man, in rap music, I was jamming a lot of East Coast.
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I was big into Detroit, Philly.
I was big in New York.
That's why my delivery is so stupid.
Like I was trying to tell you earlier, even before I was rapping, I was delivering.
Like I was like, you know what I'm saying?
I wasn't rapping, but I was working on how to, I'm going to hit it.
Right.
And now that I mastered that, give me some words.
That's all I need.
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I'm going to destroy it.
I promise to you, bro, because like, oh, this is muscle.
So it's muscle memory.
Once you work that bitch out and you get it there, man, that mouthpiece is an animal.
I like that.
But you said some of your influences were big L.
So big L, I'm going to put 50 up there.
I like 50.
I mean, shit, I ain't going to say it was my favorite, but I fuck the Will Smith too.
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I fuck the Will Smith because he had like a whole steelo.
His whole swagger was vicious.
Oh man.
What'd you have slapped somebody too if they started talking shit about your wife?
No, I mean.
You wouldn't have done it?
No.
I'm too chill for that.
Especially after all she been doing.
I love Will.
You know what I'm saying?
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I still love Will.
I love Will though.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, Humgur Kool too.
I was a huge fan of her.
I mean, fuck, she was beautiful.
I remember being a kid like, damn.
Like I think she was a real, like her and a few others was like reason why I like her.
I mean, I'm not going to say that.
I mean, I'm not going to say that.
I mean, I'm not going to say that.
I mean, I'm not going to say that.
I'm not going to say that.
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I'm not even going to say that.
I'm not going to say that.
Man, that's funny.
That's dope, man.
You were talking about fissin' bootyholes and stuff earlier.
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And I know in one song, the song you got with peso peso,
you said you let a girl lick your butt.
You will?
Yeah.
Look at Jazz.
I've never done it before, but like,
I almost didn't want to answer it, but I mean, fuck.
You said in the song.
Yeah. I mean, that's because like, damn, you stood on me.
Hold on, Jazz. Do you want to lick his butt?
No, I just said I've never done it before,
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but I'm trying to see like, what are some things I should get into?
And I mean, a lot of guys be likin' that stuff.
I'm not going to ask anymore about it.
I had a second question, but we're going to cap it on that.
Please go to the next question.
You made me...
You made something clean.
You made me forget what I was going to ask.
I was listening to it today, and I was like, nah.
I got a good one, so you speak on delivery, right?
Because that's the thing, you know, and if you go
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and you look at any of his YouTube videos in the comments,
everyone talks about how you roll those Rs, right?
And I feel like your delivery is
in the way that you rap, the way that you talk
also comes from how you were growing up.
Now, I had the pleasure of meeting you
twice before this interview, right?
And we were able to talk a little bit, but like I was telling you,
we wanted to save a lot of this for this interview,
so I want to ask you, right?
Growing up, and we're going to go back to when you were growing up,
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the way you were brought up
was a little bit different than the way I was brought up, right?
You know, you grew up riding horses,
you know, being more of the countryside.
I didn't really grow up riding horses.
I didn't really grow up riding horses.
But I was definitely around them.
I started riding horses when I was probably about like 17.
You know what I'm saying?
But I didn't get older.
I didn't do it until I was older, you know what I'm saying?
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But I was definitely older around them.
My people at Chico had a hard ranch.
My cousin Michael Ager, and that was all around.
I remember Michael, you know what I'm saying?
My cousin Michael passed.
Matter of fact, that tombstone that shows besides my mama,
they said, Michael Rudolph, that's my cousin.
He was a cowboy, man.
R.P. to my soldier.
He died on my birthday, man.
It was 2010. It was crazy.
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It was a...
It was a... Bro, that motherfucker was...
He was a crazy guy. He was cool, man.
He wasn't crazy. Like, man, he's fucking out here
doing stupid shit. He was, man, he was just
a good-ass individual, bro.
A good-ass human being was cooler, you know what I'm saying?
I remember he made me feel loved as a cousin,
you know what I'm saying? And I remember growing up,
like, my mama died, you know what I'm saying?
My dad was around, but he was, you know,
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getting in trouble and was being young
and doing him and, you know what I'm saying?
And, you know, I had to live with my nanny.
So, like, I longed for that family shit
and that, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I feel like I still, to this day, that's why I act
like a kid, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I just want that shit, bro.
And you bring up...
We brought a lot about your mom, but when
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our part combo, your dad was very influential
in you getting into the rap game as well.
Being at the house, you know,
you were telling me you had a house full of women,
a couple dudes there, but then he'd want you
to always go and rap battle against the dudes
because even at an early age, you were so talented.
Hell, yeah.
Hell, yeah.
Tell us a little bit about that, you know?
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How old were you and how old were the guys
that you were rapping against?
Man, I was in seventh grade. I was like...
I was like, shit, how old are you?
12, 13, man.
So I was probably about 12, 13, and he'd grown as many,
you know what I'm saying?
Some of them probably like 20 and up, you know what I'm saying?
My dad was always around everybody, you know?
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And, man, they would go crazy, you know, my dad.
I remember my dad, so look, he would play beats
like ghetto boys, right? That's what we was jamming.
Right.
People mind, ghetto boys, these beats are like
five, six minutes long sometimes, you know what I'm saying?
Like, any song, a lot of songs back then,
it was cool because it was long, even a lot of rock songs.
I remember rock songs being like fucking ten minutes long.
Right, right, right.
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So anyways, something on the beat is like five minutes long
and I'm about two, three minutes in, eating his whole...
I'm just like, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going.
And I'm like, you know, I'm starting to slow down, you know?
You know, I'm trying to figure out what else I'm saying?
My dad's like, what the fuck are you doing?
He's like, the beat's not over, you know what I'm saying?
So, I jumped back on this whole, you know what I'm saying?
And I figured it out, you know, and my dad, you know,
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he was hard on it, but it was still fun, you know?
Because like, man, I just love it, you know?
It was always a challenge, so I was like, shit, let's go.
It was almost like a thing, it was almost like,
oh, you think I can't do a type of thing?
Like, so I'm going, you know, that's my dad, that's the number one person.
He's been my number one fan forever.
Really?
You know, you got to understand, this is a grown-ass man
with a house full of women.
Beautiful women.
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Wow, that boy used to be...
I don't know, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
And he, you know what I'm saying? Out of all things,
he going to wake his son up
because he wants to hear his son rap battle this dude real quick.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, man, that's my number one fan, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
And, man, it was rough between us and stuff like that,
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you know what I'm saying?
But, man, I love that dude, and he loved me, you know what I'm saying?
And we know what it is between each other, you know?
Shit, I'm just like that motherfucker, you know?
So how was it when your dad found out you had got signed to enter school?
How was it?
Yeah, how did he, he loved it, I guess.
Yeah, I mean, shit, he was like, shit.
Now what?
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Like, I mean, he didn't, he was excited, but he was like, shit.
Got to sell some records.
Yeah, he was like, he's getting hit in the head.
It's, you know what I'm saying? It's hard to stay here.
I like that.
You know what I'm saying?
So he was happy, but he was like, almost like,
it ain't time to chill, yeah, you know, you still,
you barely started, you barely just opened a book of it.
Right.
You know, chapter one.
And how did you get a deal so quick?
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I like that.
You just answer your question, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So, I mean, not only that, I, you know, just, I had, I had my dog,
my doggy Greg, you know, he, he, he, he, he, a real one man,
me and him were coming up together, you know, we started from the mud.
So.
Okay. Let's take that back.
Why did you sign so quick?
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Because you are hot and you probably could have did it independently.
Because you are that dude that makes it an OT.
That's who you are.
So why did you sign the better question?
It's kind of like, let's say when you get this job and you,
okay, you get, you're done with this job.
Now you got to get another job.
Well, when you get this job, it's like, shit, I used to work for here.
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She don't say, right?
So it's kind of like, it's just, it's a background thing.
Not only that, I get a lot.
It's a lot easier for me as a rapper.
They take care of a lot of things for me that I probably just don't want to take care of,
you know, so it make me, it make it easier for me to focus on my creativity and my,
you know, my work, you know what I'm saying?
It's, it's, it's, it's, it's a lot of, you know, things that, like those artists,
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they'll get signed deals and things like that.
And they still got to pay for all that stuff.
Still got to worry about posting and do their marketing and things like that, you know.
So, G-Codes, you know, like I said, since I am high, I had, I had leverage, you know.
How long have you been signed to them for?
I don't know, man. Time's a blur right now.
Two years?
Nah, like a year.
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Sound right.
Since you said you were high, what are your favorite strands?
I'm just curious.
Man. Good question, Jay, man.
He laid two, that's why.
Trying to see what we doing after.
What did we smoke earlier? What was, what's your, what's that?
Man, it's a mixture. I don't, I don't even ask my dog enough more because I just,
I just know it's going to be that fire.
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When you said earlier you were talking about going from like hardcore rapping and stuff
and then like being more vulnerable.
How do you like open up that, you know, that shell or like go into that mode?
I feel like it's easy. You just, uh, I just, you know, because it's dead.
You know what I'm saying? I just got to...
But before he wasn't tapping into it, what made you be like, alright, let me, let me, let me switch it up.
When I stopped being selfish, when I realized that I got to make music for other people,
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and not just me.
So first you were doing music for yourself.
Yo, I love this shit bro.
We're not good.
But now, doing it for other people, is it, is it just as satisfying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, shit is, you know what I'm saying?
Like it's, it's coolest folks seeing their reaction.
It's coolest fuck when they want me to sign shit for them.
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It's coolest fuck when they sing my lyrics.
It's coolest fuck when I see them comment.
You know, it's, I love that, you know what I'm saying?
I, uh, I mean, who wouldn't love that, you know what I'm saying?
Uh, but I understand what it is, and I understand that I'm grateful for them.
Okay, that's good.
Okay, oh sorry, my answer to that question, are there any artists that you actually want to work with?
Cause I know some people be like, I'm Gucci.
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I want to work with like the weekend, and Drake.
Cause, I might have a radio here.
Yeah, for sure.
And then from there, you know what I'm saying? I could learn more.
Not only that, who wouldn't want to song for Drake?
Of course.
What's the worst thing about being that Mexican OT? What's the worst thing about being you?
At this particular point in your life?
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You know what's up.
You just know what's up.
You know what that means.
You know his business, you can find him.
And where do you see yourself in five years? Cause I see a lot of rappers.
Nah, he just know what's up with himself.
Okay.
Hey, and going off of a question, she had asked, she had asked, you know, uh, what is some artist you want to work with?
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Now, when we had first met, there was someone that you, that you brought up from California that you wanted to work with.
And his name was Money Swade.
Money Sign Swade.
And what happened a day later?
It's crazy.
Now, let me ask you, cause life is short, right?
And you do bring up family a lot too.
And one thing I noticed is that everybody that works in your circle is-
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Hey, I appeal to my dog, a man, a Money Sign Swade bro, living legend bro.
It's crazy.
It was crazy that that happened because literally it was less than 24 hours after you literally said on video that you wanted to work with him.
It said that he was murdered inside prison and met, and, you know, RIP to him, prayers for his family.
He had a whole, he had a whole steelo too, like a whole cool ass swagger, you know what I'm saying?
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It's crazy how that went down.
And, and about, again, going back off on family.
So everyone around you, whether it's the videographer or even the producer, cause I asked you, you know, who produces this amazing music that we get to hear?
And you're like, tell me, tell me who does the majority of your production.
And where, and where is he located at?
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It's, I got, I got TB Robbie, you know what I'm saying?
I'm, I normally, like before I started getting big, you know what I'm saying?
I had one person and then it was TB Robbie.
And I had, oh no, I had another one.
I had Kato, TB Robbie, Kato, and I had my buddy, Scales.
And, you know, but Scales, he, even then, you know, he wouldn't be, you know, I did maybe like one of them.
(22:51):
But it was mostly TB Robbie.
Then I started getting big.
I started, I got GMB with me.
I did some shit with them.
I got a, all of them, you know, that's on that.
I feel like on Gucci Man in 2006, he did that whole project.
And he, uh, sat out my dog and he did, he did a few of my projects that's going to be on the, the one that's dropping.
(23:16):
It should be dropping soon.
I don't know. I don't think we have a date for it.
Is that the one with the Paul Walsong on it?
Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh-oh.
By the way, I've had a chance to see the video.
I, he, they shot it here.
I wasn't here when that video went down, but I was able to link back up with you.
Because you actually came back now real quick.
I know this, I know this is an interview about you, but I want to let y'all know how amazing this guy is.
(23:39):
So they came and shot the music video here.
I had to go to Hyde Park, which is a famous clothing brand in Houston and, uh, go pick up clothing.
So basically they were supposed to come on a Wednesday.
They ended up coming on a Tuesday.
I was, I was upset that I didn't get to meet them.
So I hit them up and was like, man, I'm so sorry I wasn't here.
You know, I was at Hyde Park, you know, but he fazed times me and he says, Mike, I'm coming back.
(24:02):
And then he goes, look where I met.
And he was at this place called the waffle bus.
And he goes, Mike, do you want some food?
I, when I mean, he literally came back here and brought me lunch.
I'm going to tell you right now, of all the artists that I've ever met in my entire life, celebrities, sport players, no matter who it is.
That was one of the realest moments I've ever encountered.
And I'll be honest, that was one of the reasons.
(24:24):
And when I, when I, we were, when I was thinking, who should we do for interview one?
How humble and how much energy you bring. That was why I wanted you here today.
And to be with other legends of the city here, especially from the biggest radio station in Texas.
You know, again, I'm just so thankful to have you here.
And sorry for kind of going off subject.
I just felt like I had to tell everybody.
Because it was amazing how we met, bro.
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No, yeah, I dig it. Yeah, for sure. I mean, shit, you know what I'm saying?
Like I said earlier, I just being a good person itself, get you far, you know what I'm saying?
I like making people happy. I like, you know what I'm saying?
Just shit, being good.
You know what I'm saying? I don't, I don't, being bad is no good.
Being bad made that shit hurt me. You know what I'm saying?
In the long run and being good shit.
Nobody like a dickhead anyways.
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Good energy, put it out, you get it back.
That's right.
Before we let you go to, you have some more music that's going to drop?
Yeah, like I said, I was trying to say earlier, but trying to figure it out.
I don't know. I don't think we have a date for it yet, but expect a project soon.
That's what I was saying, my boy Oliver, he did a few songs on that and I'm super excited for y'all to hear it.
Like I said, I'm, you know, fucking with some boss ass motherfuckers now.
(25:32):
So, and they liking it, you know what I'm saying?
So it's giving me the confidence to step into other lanes and, you know, try this and try that and, you know what I'm saying?
Shit, who knows what the hell I'll be doing next.
Like I said, I'm into all the music, you know, I jam, I would jam and Stevie Ray Vaughn on the way over here, you know.
So, who knows? Be ready.
Be ready. I like that. I got a freestyle for you.
(25:54):
Oh, yeah.
It wouldn't be right without a J-Mac freestyle.
You gonna kill it?
That Mexican OT, he don't want me. See, your boy J-Mac is a super G.
See, I got the flag on my chest cause that's what I do.
I got Gavin, he over there laughing like, what's up, fool?
See, when he comes to this rap, I am a master and I know OG is thinking that it's a disaster.
(26:17):
But when it comes to lyrics, this is what I do.
So I've been rapping on the radio since you was like, foe-fool, I ain't got no more.
That was good.
It was his worst one, honestly.
Hey, 1-10, what do you get that?
I give him, like an 8 and a half.
What? Okay.
I love him.
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He's definitely in his nice air.
Jazz, you up next.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. We good. I'm gonna let J-Mac come.
Hey, dog, thank you so much, man. Hey, now you know, she's a big DJ.
So one of these shows, we need young Jazz up there on stage with you.
Alright, I'm gonna say it right now. Can we make that happen?
Man, I'm fast.
She's got a big presence too, you know.
Yeah, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Definitely.
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I know I got some shows lined up for sure coming up soon.
So if you're down for it, we'll figure it out.
We ready for some Texas shows?
You like Austin?
Yeah, I love Austin.
I love Austin.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I love Austin. I love Austin.
I fuck with Austin, but yeah, so,
if I got something out there.
For sure, let me know.
(27:21):
Man.
Two hours away.
Hey, hey, and one thing, we cannot let him go without asking this question.
So right now we are inside.
What you want?
We're inside of a height, inside of a clothing store.
One thing about you is your style, your sense of style.
Now most people, they wanna wear the latest and greatest J's.
They wanna wear some supreme repulse.
(27:42):
I think you're against some supreme and stuff.
We had a combo about that.
But tell me a little bit about your style.
I'm glad you brought that up, bro.
That boy can't clean.
I feel like the simplicity of my steelo is what's there.
I ain't gotta do too much.
My music's big for itself, therefore I can still walk.
I can still chill.
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But don't get twisted.
You should shit it.
I'm telling my mom something.
Okay.
It's fish.
What fish?
She don't know.
I don't know about that.
Yeah, check me out.
I promise to you.
I'll take the boot off, show you the inside.
This girl knows me.
Come on, you got me first.
We in a shoe store.
Let's really see.
(28:24):
Look, she want to lick some booty.
See, that whole bar of clothing, you can even see that.
Now it says genuine fish in the inside.
Damn.
$1100 boots.
Now, one thing too, you all took it.
That's my favorite.
I just get that same in different colors.
That's cold.
That's cold.
That's hard.
Now you do have a collab coming up soon on some clothing.
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You know, and I feel like that's going to be a good one.
My fault.
No, you good.
Yeah, but I do be wearing like babes' like, but I wear Air Forces.
Like the crazy shoe I wear is Babe, because my favorite shoe ever made is the Air Force one.
And you did tell me that.
You did tell me that.
Air Force one.
Low-time.
You come around with me and some hot sauce, but I'm not a bullet.
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White or black horses?
White.
You got to go with this white.
What's the shades you got on?
I like the shades.
Sachi.
Sachi.
Oh, they clean.
They clean.
I'm looking to find some.
I want these, but I want them in the black lanes now.
Yeah.
I fuck with the yellow though.
Yellow, man.
Classic.
Can I get some cocaine on wholesale?
That's name is Hat.
(29:28):
That's the last line up.
That's the Hat.
All right.
Thank you all for watching.
We're going to do outro.
Wait, I was going to say, we just picked the name right before this episode.
We're going to be honest.
The name of the podcast is...
You say it.
Come on, somebody help me out.
Now, let's let Virgil say it.
Oh, yes.
I definitely don't want to hear you.
I know it.
(29:49):
He helped.
He helped.
Thank you for watching.
Clear the girls.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
You are now 2D2.
Clear the girls.
You are 2D2.
Clear the girls.
You are 2D2.
You always say, Miss Kenal 10, you are now 2D2.
You are now 2D2.
You are now tuned in to Clearly Cultured!
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So we got episode one of the Clearly Cultured podcast.
Live from the closet storefront on the entire second floor of the world famous Johnny Dangs.
And we had to start interview one with a bang.
We got Texas' own, that Mexican OT.
And I'm out here with my family from the Clearly Cultured podcast.
(00:26):
We got J-Mac, Young Jas from 979 the Box.
Yup, the voices of the city.
And now, guys, you're all ready to do our podcast.
We doing something different now, you guys.
This one's been in the works for a minute too.
Let me just say that.
So we about to come out big.
There's no other way to come.
Well, let's get started, Jazz.
Bet.
All right, well, let's introduce our guest one time again.
(00:47):
Thank you so much for coming.
He was on time, y'all.
He was, you know, everything.
So listen, let's start with, let's take it all the way back.
Like, how did you first get started to music?
Well, before we even get into that, I want to thank all of y'all
for having me, you know what I'm saying?
And it's crazy as fuck hearing y'all's voice live too,
you know what I'm saying?
It's cool.
My dog and Mike right here, you know what I'm saying?
Got punched in with them.
And it's a pleasure, bro.
I'm really getting to the beginning of what I'm doing.
(01:08):
And it's exciting.
So, you know what I'm saying?
Like I said earlier, you know what y'all doing?
Having me here and just supporting and even just
liking and reposting little things like that.
You know, I can't do this without y'all.
So for that, I'm forever grateful.
I'm forever going hard, you know what I'm saying?
I'm excited to be here, let's go.
Told y'all he was live, I told y'all.
That boy is excited to be here.
And I'm glad you said that.
(01:28):
I want you to take me back around the time
when your mama was alive.
And she was watching 106 in park.
Take me to that feeling.
Man, it was cool.
It's like flashes, you know what I'm saying?
I can't remember anything, you know, too vivid.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't want to say she manifested it for me
because I feel like people just kind of use that word.
(01:50):
I don't know, it's a weird word now.
But she put it in the air for me, you know what I'm saying?
Right.
So for that, you know, it's cool as fuck
to see why I'm mad with it, you know?
But I don't know, man, I can't really
tell you too much of a feel.
You know, I just remember, you know, kind of flashes of it.
I remember my mama always had fucking hot ass,
hot ass big reds under the sink too.
(02:11):
We always had hot pockets for dinner.
Every night, I promised to you.
My mama was, you know, she was young, you know what I'm saying?
So she was still being a kid while raising kids,
you know what I'm saying?
So it was cool.
I definitely wish she got to see this shit now.
But, you know.
And the reason I say that?
As soon as I was talking, like, I was rapping,
(02:33):
like not even saying shit, just rhyming words, you know?
I'm not even words, just rhyming, you know what I'm saying?
English dance phase?
No, nothing, just delivery.
Just delivery.
And you know what?
The reason I thought about that, because, you know,
I lost my mom also.
And you know that Mother's Day is coming up.
And I know you did a song for your mother,
(02:54):
because I've been watching you for quite some time.
I never got to hear that song.
Could you give me some of those lyrics?
Do you remember them?
If you do, could you please give me some of those lyrics?
Yeah, the verse.
I mean, if it's going to make you too emotional.
You want, like, the hook or the verse or what?
Yeah, give me the hook, the verse.
Give me some of it.
The hook say, I'm going to slide.
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I'm going to ride.
And if it comes to my family or money, somebody's going to die.
I'm going to try not to cry.
Well, I'm recording this song, because I got so much pain inside.
You can see it in my eye.
I had seen some things.
Even when it's sunny, I still feel the rain.
Overdose and on the pears, I still feel the pain.
I still feel the pain.
I'm going to push it with some yappas and choppers,
(03:36):
and I'm going to act up.
I'm going to pop them on this head,
and I'm going to have them call it for backup.
He say, you got four people pushing up.
I'm going to crack them, do them boys like mosquitoes,
one on fishing.
I'm going to whack them right now, God.
I'm trying to bless me.
I know the devil going to test me.
The devil think he can beat me by the titan relation.
I'm going to slide on them.
I'm going to ride on them.
Put that nine on them.
Fuck it with my little baby brother.
Bitch, I'm going to die for them.
He the only thing I got left of my mother since she died.
If he say, need to be brother, baby, believe I'm going to slide.
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I'm going to step on mama, check on crashing.
Now we think a lot.
Put them drums on them.
Knick canisters.
Then pop, pop, pop.
I'm going to go kid, cheat, nick class.
I'm looking for some answers.
I'll push them to that ER.
One D, because I got cancer.
I'm going to put a rocket in my pocket, then cock, clap, clap, play with them.
Run and knock, gun and dime.
I take away his stamina.
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I'm going to slide.
I feel bad, man.
You know what?
You know it's crazy how that song by a good two years, two years old, almost two years
old.
I held the video for about a year and a half.
I didn't like it at first.
At the time, all I was doing was just so much like a Grecipe and hardcore rap.
Then I started learning what's the difference was of making the song.
(04:41):
My doggy G as a legend right there.
Y'all don't even understand.
Oh my goodness.
Y'all know who that is?
Yeah.
Okay.
Just making sure.
Anyways, from the hardcore aggressive stuff, now I'm just learning how to make actual songs
and putting, being vulnerable.
Because not everybody can relate to hitting cocaine and fisting bullet holes.
(05:05):
I had to switch it up sometimes.
Okay.
You put everything for everybody.
When was the first video or thing that you saw really start to go crazy?
I went live.
It was like 2019 and I was in the dub.
I was in the country with my grandparents and shit, I wasn't doing nothing.
(05:25):
I was just being fucking dumb.
And then my uncle Mo had a studio, the ones you were talking about earlier.
So shit.
I was doing that easy accent.
Boom.
I'm in there recording music.
And one day this dude named Roddy Roddy, he was my cousin's homeboy.
He heard the song.
It was like, bro, I got to jump on it.
Please let me jump on it.
So I ended up letting him jump on it.
(05:46):
And keep in mind, I'm doing this because there's fucking nothing else to do.
I'm not getting no job.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not.
I'm just, I don't know what the fuck I was on.
Anyways, we ended up doing a video tour after we recorded that he had a homeboy named Kurt
Go.
And I got a boy named Kurt Go, he finished shooting the video, we were going to get it
dropped, all this and that.
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I'm like, man, fuck it.
I ain't got nothing else to do.
Let's do it.
Boom.
Drop that hoe.
And when I dropped it, it went 15K, 20K, 30K, 40K.
It got stuck at 45K.
And I was maybe about probably like a month.
And I didn't, I didn't do it.
No problem.
I'm not doing nothing.
I just dropped it off.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
I didn't expect that.
(06:27):
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
So it went crazy.
I dropped another one, that one went dumb, did another one.
And now I'm getting like 15, 20K, 30K views.
You know what I'm saying?
And this is just in my county.
Like I was already known, but I was already known just because people love me.
Like you know what I'm saying?
I'm a good person.
I'm cool as fuck.
(06:48):
You know what I'm saying?
I show love everywhere.
You know what I'm saying?
Like so, I'm an likable person.
So like already off the rips.
Oh, I'll teach you music.
We out damn it.
You know what I'm saying?
I really support you.
Exactly.
So, and then it just grew from there.
Word to mouth.
You know what I'm saying?
I started doing a little shit here and there.
And yeah, what are we going to have?
(07:10):
That's all right.
For the people who don't know that Mexican OT, give me three songs that would introduce
you to them.
For the person who never heard of you.
What are the three songs they should listen to?
Just imagine, I've never heard of you.
I don't know who you are.
Give me three songs that can explain that Mexican OT.
(07:35):
Just like that.
Man, I'll tell you pick one.
It's like this new.
It's like this new?
Anything.
Anything.
The whole music is good one.
Oh, you know what?
Okay, and I like that.
He has a lot of confidence.
And he said anything.
Most people, they will give you the songs.
And speaking of that, what makes you think you're so hot?
(07:58):
Because I heard you say that you're the hottest Mexican rapper.
Why do you think that?
Tell me why.
I mean, shit, if I don't believe myself, I'll fuck you, you know?
Right.
But not only that, I mean, fuck.
Listen to it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I was blessed, bro.
You know, I go to these shows and I rock out.
I got to eat out my hands.
Shout out to my motherfucking fans, bro.
(08:18):
Like they cut.
I just got done doing a song with Love It, Colorado.
Just got back from over there.
I was in Dallas fucking with some people over there.
Just got done rocking out over there.
You know, often just tour, FNB and corpus.
This Saturday, motherfucking, I'm FNB at a car show.
And they're lit every fucking time, bro.
You opened up for Wayne, right?
Last week?
Yes, and they're lit.
(08:38):
Man, shout out to Fee.
New Wayne.
Shout out to Fee, bro.
That was the last minute thing.
Up for my dog, he punched me in there like that.
So that's cool.
Fee Banks.
Many blessings, baby.
Anyways, that's why I'm the hottest, because I work for it.
I like that.
I'm determined to be the hottest.
You know what I'm saying?
And not only that, I fucking love what the fuck I do.
Like I said, brother, if I'm getting paid or not, I'm going to be doing it.
(09:00):
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
Now you're sounding like that Mexican OT.
Which gives me to the point.
Beyonce had the beehive.
That's her fans.
How do you describe your fans?
Man, it's too early.
Too early?
Too early.
They don't give themselves a name already?
They haven't?
(09:20):
Even if they don't give themselves a name, you said they're loyal.
You said they be there for you.
I promise to you.
I promise to you.
Even little stuff.
Like somebody hating in the comments, boom, I'm talking about from one comment to 30 to
40 on their ads.
I'm telling you.
You know what I'm saying?
That's real.
That's different.
(09:41):
Wow.
Speaking of you open up for Wayne's stuff, which artists or like what kind of music did you
grow up listening to?
Everything.
Everything.
I was riding around with my dad and my dad, riding around.
I'm a passenger seat.
My mom and my dad, they was young.
So they was into all of it.
And they still had around.
They was around that time with my grandparents.
(10:02):
They was still jamming with them.
They was jamming too.
What?
You know what I'm saying?
So like, does that make sense?
I understand.
Tell me your list because I know what your list is.
I bet you Jazz don't know anything in your list.
I mean, I can hit you with some rap easily.
I can show you.
Anything.
Whatever your top five was.
Man, in rap music, I was jamming a lot of East Coast.
(10:24):
I was big into Detroit, Philly.
I was big in New York.
That's why my delivery is so stupid.
Like I was trying to tell you earlier, even before I was rapping, I was delivering.
Like I was like, you know what I'm saying?
I wasn't rapping, but I was working on how to, I'm going to hit it.
Right.
And now that I mastered that, give me some words.
That's all I need.
(10:45):
I'm going to destroy it.
I promise to you, bro, because like, oh, this is muscle.
So it's muscle memory.
Once you work that bitch out and you get it there, man, that mouthpiece is an animal.
I like that.
But you said some of your influences were big L.
So big L, I'm going to put 50 up there.
I like 50.
I mean, shit, I ain't going to say it was my favorite, but I fuck the Will Smith too.
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I fuck the Will Smith because he had like a whole steelo.
His whole swagger was vicious.
Oh man.
What'd you have slapped somebody too if they started talking shit about your wife?
No, I mean.
You wouldn't have done it?
No.
I'm too chill for that.
Especially after all she been doing.
I love Will.
You know what I'm saying?
(11:28):
I still love Will.
I love Will though.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, Humgur Kool too.
I was a huge fan of her.
I mean, fuck, she was beautiful.
I remember being a kid like, damn.
Like I think she was a real, like her and a few others was like reason why I like her.
I mean, I'm not going to say that.
I mean, I'm not going to say that.
I mean, I'm not going to say that.
I mean, I'm not going to say that.
I'm not going to say that.
(11:50):
I'm not even going to say that.
I'm not going to say that.
Man, that's funny.
That's dope, man.
You were talking about fissin' bootyholes and stuff earlier.
(12:11):
And I know in one song, the song you got with peso peso,
you said you let a girl lick your butt.
You will?
Yeah.
Look at Jazz.
I've never done it before, but like,
I almost didn't want to answer it, but I mean, fuck.
You said in the song.
Yeah. I mean, that's because like, damn, you stood on me.
Hold on, Jazz. Do you want to lick his butt?
No, I just said I've never done it before,
(12:33):
but I'm trying to see like, what are some things I should get into?
And I mean, a lot of guys be likin' that stuff.
I'm not going to ask anymore about it.
I had a second question, but we're going to cap it on that.
Please go to the next question.
You made me...
You made something clean.
You made me forget what I was going to ask.
I was listening to it today, and I was like, nah.
I got a good one, so you speak on delivery, right?
Because that's the thing, you know, and if you go
(12:55):
and you look at any of his YouTube videos in the comments,
everyone talks about how you roll those Rs, right?
And I feel like your delivery is
in the way that you rap, the way that you talk
also comes from how you were growing up.
Now, I had the pleasure of meeting you
twice before this interview, right?
And we were able to talk a little bit, but like I was telling you,
we wanted to save a lot of this for this interview,
so I want to ask you, right?
Growing up, and we're going to go back to when you were growing up,
(13:17):
the way you were brought up
was a little bit different than the way I was brought up, right?
You know, you grew up riding horses,
you know, being more of the countryside.
I didn't really grow up riding horses.
I didn't really grow up riding horses.
But I was definitely around them.
I started riding horses when I was probably about like 17.
You know what I'm saying?
But I didn't get older.
I didn't do it until I was older, you know what I'm saying?
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But I was definitely older around them.
My people at Chico had a hard ranch.
My cousin Michael Ager, and that was all around.
I remember Michael, you know what I'm saying?
My cousin Michael passed.
Matter of fact, that tombstone that shows besides my mama,
they said, Michael Rudolph, that's my cousin.
He was a cowboy, man.
R.P. to my soldier.
He died on my birthday, man.
It was 2010. It was crazy.
(14:01):
It was a...
It was a... Bro, that motherfucker was...
He was a crazy guy. He was cool, man.
He wasn't crazy. Like, man, he's fucking out here
doing stupid shit. He was, man, he was just
a good-ass individual, bro.
A good-ass human being was cooler, you know what I'm saying?
I remember he made me feel loved as a cousin,
you know what I'm saying? And I remember growing up,
like, my mama died, you know what I'm saying?
My dad was around, but he was, you know,
(14:23):
getting in trouble and was being young
and doing him and, you know what I'm saying?
And, you know, I had to live with my nanny.
So, like, I longed for that family shit
and that, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I feel like I still, to this day, that's why I act
like a kid, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I just want that shit, bro.
And you bring up...
We brought a lot about your mom, but when
(14:45):
our part combo, your dad was very influential
in you getting into the rap game as well.
Being at the house, you know,
you were telling me you had a house full of women,
a couple dudes there, but then he'd want you
to always go and rap battle against the dudes
because even at an early age, you were so talented.
Hell, yeah.
Hell, yeah.
Tell us a little bit about that, you know?
(15:08):
How old were you and how old were the guys
that you were rapping against?
Man, I was in seventh grade. I was like...
I was like, shit, how old are you?
12, 13, man.
So I was probably about 12, 13, and he'd grown as many,
you know what I'm saying?
Some of them probably like 20 and up, you know what I'm saying?
My dad was always around everybody, you know?
(15:31):
And, man, they would go crazy, you know, my dad.
I remember my dad, so look, he would play beats
like ghetto boys, right? That's what we was jamming.
Right.
People mind, ghetto boys, these beats are like
five, six minutes long sometimes, you know what I'm saying?
Like, any song, a lot of songs back then,
it was cool because it was long, even a lot of rock songs.
I remember rock songs being like fucking ten minutes long.
Right, right, right.
(15:53):
So anyways, something on the beat is like five minutes long
and I'm about two, three minutes in, eating his whole...
I'm just like, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going.
And I'm like, you know, I'm starting to slow down, you know?
You know, I'm trying to figure out what else I'm saying?
My dad's like, what the fuck are you doing?
He's like, the beat's not over, you know what I'm saying?
So, I jumped back on this whole, you know what I'm saying?
And I figured it out, you know, and my dad, you know,
(16:15):
he was hard on it, but it was still fun, you know?
Because like, man, I just love it, you know?
It was always a challenge, so I was like, shit, let's go.
It was almost like a thing, it was almost like,
oh, you think I can't do a type of thing?
Like, so I'm going, you know, that's my dad, that's the number one person.
He's been my number one fan forever.
Really?
You know, you got to understand, this is a grown-ass man
with a house full of women.
Beautiful women.
(16:37):
Wow, that boy used to be...
I don't know, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
And he, you know what I'm saying? Out of all things,
he going to wake his son up
because he wants to hear his son rap battle this dude real quick.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, man, that's my number one fan, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
And, man, it was rough between us and stuff like that,
(16:59):
you know what I'm saying?
But, man, I love that dude, and he loved me, you know what I'm saying?
And we know what it is between each other, you know?
Shit, I'm just like that motherfucker, you know?
So how was it when your dad found out you had got signed to enter school?
How was it?
Yeah, how did he, he loved it, I guess.
Yeah, I mean, shit, he was like, shit.
Now what?
(17:21):
Like, I mean, he didn't, he was excited, but he was like, shit.
Got to sell some records.
Yeah, he was like, he's getting hit in the head.
It's, you know what I'm saying? It's hard to stay here.
I like that.
You know what I'm saying?
So he was happy, but he was like, almost like,
it ain't time to chill, yeah, you know, you still,
you barely started, you barely just opened a book of it.
Right.
You know, chapter one.
And how did you get a deal so quick?
(17:43):
I like that.
You just answer your question, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So, I mean, not only that, I, you know, just, I had, I had my dog,
my doggy Greg, you know, he, he, he, he, he, a real one man,
me and him were coming up together, you know, we started from the mud.
So.
Okay. Let's take that back.
Why did you sign so quick?
(18:05):
Because you are hot and you probably could have did it independently.
Because you are that dude that makes it an OT.
That's who you are.
So why did you sign the better question?
It's kind of like, let's say when you get this job and you,
okay, you get, you're done with this job.
Now you got to get another job.
Well, when you get this job, it's like, shit, I used to work for here.
(18:29):
She don't say, right?
So it's kind of like, it's just, it's a background thing.
Not only that, I get a lot.
It's a lot easier for me as a rapper.
They take care of a lot of things for me that I probably just don't want to take care of,
you know, so it make me, it make it easier for me to focus on my creativity and my,
you know, my work, you know what I'm saying?
It's, it's, it's, it's, it's a lot of, you know, things that, like those artists,
(18:51):
they'll get signed deals and things like that.
And they still got to pay for all that stuff.
Still got to worry about posting and do their marketing and things like that, you know.
So, G-Codes, you know, like I said, since I am high, I had, I had leverage, you know.
How long have you been signed to them for?
I don't know, man. Time's a blur right now.
Two years?
Nah, like a year.
(19:12):
Sound right.
Since you said you were high, what are your favorite strands?
I'm just curious.
Man. Good question, Jay, man.
He laid two, that's why.
Trying to see what we doing after.
What did we smoke earlier? What was, what's your, what's that?
Man, it's a mixture. I don't, I don't even ask my dog enough more because I just,
I just know it's going to be that fire.
(19:33):
When you said earlier you were talking about going from like hardcore rapping and stuff
and then like being more vulnerable.
How do you like open up that, you know, that shell or like go into that mode?
I feel like it's easy. You just, uh, I just, you know, because it's dead.
You know what I'm saying? I just got to...
But before he wasn't tapping into it, what made you be like, alright, let me, let me, let me switch it up.
When I stopped being selfish, when I realized that I got to make music for other people,
(19:58):
and not just me.
So first you were doing music for yourself.
Yo, I love this shit bro.
We're not good.
But now, doing it for other people, is it, is it just as satisfying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, shit is, you know what I'm saying?
Like it's, it's coolest folks seeing their reaction.
It's coolest fuck when they want me to sign shit for them.
(20:19):
It's coolest fuck when they sing my lyrics.
It's coolest fuck when I see them comment.
You know, it's, I love that, you know what I'm saying?
I, uh, I mean, who wouldn't love that, you know what I'm saying?
Uh, but I understand what it is, and I understand that I'm grateful for them.
Okay, that's good.
Okay, oh sorry, my answer to that question, are there any artists that you actually want to work with?
Cause I know some people be like, I'm Gucci.
(20:40):
I want to work with like the weekend, and Drake.
Cause, I might have a radio here.
Yeah, for sure.
And then from there, you know what I'm saying? I could learn more.
Not only that, who wouldn't want to song for Drake?
Of course.
What's the worst thing about being that Mexican OT? What's the worst thing about being you?
At this particular point in your life?
(21:01):
You know what's up.
You just know what's up.
You know what that means.
You know his business, you can find him.
And where do you see yourself in five years? Cause I see a lot of rappers.
Nah, he just know what's up with himself.
Okay.
Hey, and going off of a question, she had asked, she had asked, you know, uh, what is some artist you want to work with?
(21:22):
Now, when we had first met, there was someone that you, that you brought up from California that you wanted to work with.
And his name was Money Swade.
Money Sign Swade.
And what happened a day later?
It's crazy.
Now, let me ask you, cause life is short, right?
And you do bring up family a lot too.
And one thing I noticed is that everybody that works in your circle is-
(21:44):
Hey, I appeal to my dog, a man, a Money Sign Swade bro, living legend bro.
It's crazy.
It was crazy that that happened because literally it was less than 24 hours after you literally said on video that you wanted to work with him.
It said that he was murdered inside prison and met, and, you know, RIP to him, prayers for his family.
He had a whole, he had a whole steelo too, like a whole cool ass swagger, you know what I'm saying?
(22:07):
It's crazy how that went down.
And, and about, again, going back off on family.
So everyone around you, whether it's the videographer or even the producer, cause I asked you, you know, who produces this amazing music that we get to hear?
And you're like, tell me, tell me who does the majority of your production.
And where, and where is he located at?
(22:29):
It's, I got, I got TB Robbie, you know what I'm saying?
I'm, I normally, like before I started getting big, you know what I'm saying?
I had one person and then it was TB Robbie.
And I had, oh no, I had another one.
I had Kato, TB Robbie, Kato, and I had my buddy, Scales.
And, you know, but Scales, he, even then, you know, he wouldn't be, you know, I did maybe like one of them.
(22:51):
But it was mostly TB Robbie.
Then I started getting big.
I started, I got GMB with me.
I did some shit with them.
I got a, all of them, you know, that's on that.
I feel like on Gucci Man in 2006, he did that whole project.
And he, uh, sat out my dog and he did, he did a few of my projects that's going to be on the, the one that's dropping.
(23:16):
It should be dropping soon.
I don't know. I don't think we have a date for it.
Is that the one with the Paul Walsong on it?
Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh-oh.
By the way, I've had a chance to see the video.
I, he, they shot it here.
I wasn't here when that video went down, but I was able to link back up with you.
Because you actually came back now real quick.
I know this, I know this is an interview about you, but I want to let y'all know how amazing this guy is.
(23:39):
So they came and shot the music video here.
I had to go to Hyde Park, which is a famous clothing brand in Houston and, uh, go pick up clothing.
So basically they were supposed to come on a Wednesday.
They ended up coming on a Tuesday.
I was, I was upset that I didn't get to meet them.
So I hit them up and was like, man, I'm so sorry I wasn't here.
You know, I was at Hyde Park, you know, but he fazed times me and he says, Mike, I'm coming back.
(24:02):
And then he goes, look where I met.
And he was at this place called the waffle bus.
And he goes, Mike, do you want some food?
I, when I mean, he literally came back here and brought me lunch.
I'm going to tell you right now, of all the artists that I've ever met in my entire life, celebrities, sport players, no matter who it is.
That was one of the realest moments I've ever encountered.
And I'll be honest, that was one of the reasons.
(24:24):
And when I, when I, we were, when I was thinking, who should we do for interview one?
How humble and how much energy you bring. That was why I wanted you here today.
And to be with other legends of the city here, especially from the biggest radio station in Texas.
You know, again, I'm just so thankful to have you here.
And sorry for kind of going off subject.
I just felt like I had to tell everybody.
Because it was amazing how we met, bro.
(24:46):
No, yeah, I dig it. Yeah, for sure. I mean, shit, you know what I'm saying?
Like I said earlier, I just being a good person itself, get you far, you know what I'm saying?
I like making people happy. I like, you know what I'm saying?
Just shit, being good.
You know what I'm saying? I don't, I don't, being bad is no good.
Being bad made that shit hurt me. You know what I'm saying?
In the long run and being good shit.
Nobody like a dickhead anyways.
(25:08):
Good energy, put it out, you get it back.
That's right.
Before we let you go to, you have some more music that's going to drop?
Yeah, like I said, I was trying to say earlier, but trying to figure it out.
I don't know. I don't think we have a date for it yet, but expect a project soon.
That's what I was saying, my boy Oliver, he did a few songs on that and I'm super excited for y'all to hear it.
Like I said, I'm, you know, fucking with some boss ass motherfuckers now.
(25:32):
So, and they liking it, you know what I'm saying?
So it's giving me the confidence to step into other lanes and, you know, try this and try that and, you know what I'm saying?
Shit, who knows what the hell I'll be doing next.
Like I said, I'm into all the music, you know, I jam, I would jam and Stevie Ray Vaughn on the way over here, you know.
So, who knows? Be ready.
Be ready. I like that. I got a freestyle for you.
(25:54):
Oh, yeah.
It wouldn't be right without a J-Mac freestyle.
You gonna kill it?
That Mexican OT, he don't want me. See, your boy J-Mac is a super G.
See, I got the flag on my chest cause that's what I do.
I got Gavin, he over there laughing like, what's up, fool?
See, when he comes to this rap, I am a master and I know OG is thinking that it's a disaster.
(26:17):
But when it comes to lyrics, this is what I do.
So I've been rapping on the radio since you was like, foe-fool, I ain't got no more.
That was good.
It was his worst one, honestly.
Hey, 1-10, what do you get that?
I give him, like an 8 and a half.
What? Okay.
I love him.
(26:38):
He's definitely in his nice air.
Jazz, you up next.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. We good. I'm gonna let J-Mac come.
Hey, dog, thank you so much, man. Hey, now you know, she's a big DJ.
So one of these shows, we need young Jazz up there on stage with you.
Alright, I'm gonna say it right now. Can we make that happen?
Man, I'm fast.
She's got a big presence too, you know.
Yeah, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Definitely.
(27:00):
I know I got some shows lined up for sure coming up soon.
So if you're down for it, we'll figure it out.
We ready for some Texas shows?
You like Austin?
Yeah, I love Austin.
I love Austin.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I love Austin. I love Austin.
I fuck with Austin, but yeah, so,
if I got something out there.
For sure, let me know.
(27:21):
Man.
Two hours away.
Hey, hey, and one thing, we cannot let him go without asking this question.
So right now we are inside.
What you want?
We're inside of a height, inside of a clothing store.
One thing about you is your style, your sense of style.
Now most people, they wanna wear the latest and greatest J's.
They wanna wear some supreme repulse.
(27:42):
I think you're against some supreme and stuff.
We had a combo about that.
But tell me a little bit about your style.
I'm glad you brought that up, bro.
That boy can't clean.
I feel like the simplicity of my steelo is what's there.
I ain't gotta do too much.
My music's big for itself, therefore I can still walk.
I can still chill.
(28:03):
But don't get twisted.
You should shit it.
I'm telling my mom something.
Okay.
It's fish.
What fish?
She don't know.
I don't know about that.
Yeah, check me out.
I promise to you.
I'll take the boot off, show you the inside.
This girl knows me.
Come on, you got me first.
We in a shoe store.
Let's really see.
(28:24):
Look, she want to lick some booty.
See, that whole bar of clothing, you can even see that.
Now it says genuine fish in the inside.
Damn.
$1100 boots.
Now, one thing too, you all took it.
That's my favorite.
I just get that same in different colors.
That's cold.
That's cold.
That's hard.
Now you do have a collab coming up soon on some clothing.
(28:46):
You know, and I feel like that's going to be a good one.
My fault.
No, you good.
Yeah, but I do be wearing like babes' like, but I wear Air Forces.
Like the crazy shoe I wear is Babe, because my favorite shoe ever made is the Air Force one.
And you did tell me that.
You did tell me that.
Air Force one.
Low-time.
You come around with me and some hot sauce, but I'm not a bullet.
(29:07):
White or black horses?
White.
You got to go with this white.
What's the shades you got on?
I like the shades.
Sachi.
Sachi.
Oh, they clean.
They clean.
I'm looking to find some.
I want these, but I want them in the black lanes now.
Yeah.
I fuck with the yellow though.
Yellow, man.
Classic.
Can I get some cocaine on wholesale?
That's name is Hat.
(29:28):
That's the last line up.
That's the Hat.
All right.
Thank you all for watching.
We're going to do outro.
Wait, I was going to say, we just picked the name right before this episode.
We're going to be honest.
The name of the podcast is...
You say it.
Come on, somebody help me out.
Now, let's let Virgil say it.
Oh, yes.
I definitely don't want to hear you.
I know it.
(29:49):
He helped.
He helped.
Thank you for watching.
Clear the girls.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
You are now 2D2.
Clear the girls.
You are 2D2.
Clear the girls.
You are 2D2.
You always say, Miss Kenal 10, you are now 2D2.
You are now 2D2.
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