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  • What is a Remote Physican Recruiter?
  • Taylor's Origin Story (childhood; college; career)
  • College and it's role in her career 
  • Skills needed to perform well in this career field
  • C.R.A.P ( Celebrating a success story throughout her career) 
  • Favorite College memories 
  • Favorite things to do in Nashville
  • Technology and its effect on here career 
  • Typical day in of a Remote Physican Recruiter
  • Favorite Place that she has traveled for work
  • 4 job pillars and how they relate to her job (Work life balance, Financial compensation, Management, Benefits 
  • Advice to someone who wants to get into remote work
  • Deep dive into the ladder to getting to the position she is currently at
  • What to expect from an interview in this field.




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Tevin mcGee (00:02):
Tennessee Titans, Broadway Avenue, Country Music
Hall of Fame.
These are probably a few of thethings that you think of when
you are thinking aboutNashville, Tennessee.
Well, on today's podcast, wehave a Nashville native, Taylor
Gee, a remote physicianrecruiter who has been working
as a recruiter for the past fiveyears.

(00:22):
Three of those years beingremote.
She graduated for her undergradfrom Arkansas State University.
And then she moved back toNashville in 2014, where she
dabbled in a startup for a fewyears before switching to
healthcare.
On today's episode, she givesyou the blueprint of what it
takes to be in her career fieldand some advice she would give

(00:43):
to somebody that is going intoremote work.
I hope you enjoy the episode.

Taylor Gee (01:08):
Taylor,

Tevin mcGee (01:08):
how are you doing today?

Taylor Gee (01:09):
I'm great.
How are you?
I'm

Tevin mcGee (01:12):
good.
I'm good.
I'm glad you decided to do thepodcast because you have a very
interesting career.

Taylor Gee (01:19):
No, thank you.
When I saw your call, I waslike, well, I'm a remote worker
and I bet a lot of otherphysician recruiters haven't
reached out.
So I'm going to see if I canhelp out anyway.

Tevin mcGee (01:31):
Well, I appreciate it.
So let's just dive right intoit.
Can you explain your role withinyour company and who you work
for?

Taylor Gee (01:40):
Yeah.
So I work for a company that's anational private practice,
anesthesia management group,essentially.
And what that looks like is, youknow, we have.
Practices all across thecountry, pretty attractive
areas.
Like we have one in Nashvillebut my territory is Houston,
Texas.

(02:00):
So I'm a senior physicianrecruiter for obviously
physicians in Houston, Texas.

Tevin mcGee (02:08):
That's awesome.
So to me that there's, there arefour different things that kind
of established if it is a goodjob or not.
So.
They are work life balance,finances, obviously, benefits
and management.
Giving every one of thesepillars a maximum score of one,

(02:33):
um, or a maximum score for wherewould you, where would you kind
of put your career in those fourpillars?

Taylor Gee (02:43):
Oh, so by the four pillars.
Okay.
Yeah, by the four pillars.
Yeah.
So for work life balance out offour, I would give it a 3.
5.
It's great.
I love it.
The only reason why I wouldn'tsay it's a four out of four is
because it does require sometravel and a lot more in the

(03:04):
heavier seasons.
And I'm kind of coming out ofthat right now.
So I'm like burned out ontraveling.
And I say that as I'm.
Heading to Houston tomorrow.
But overall, I mean, work lifebalance is great.
And when we go into schedulesand kind of my day to day you
can kind of see that.

Tevin mcGee (03:24):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I think that from just myexperience on every job that
I've worked so far leading up tothe job that I have now, I don't
think you're ever going to beperfect as far as like four out
of four on everything.
There's always room forimprovement no matter where you
work.
It's still work, you know?
So that's encouraging to hearthat.

(03:44):
So what about Management

Taylor Gee (03:47):
management.
So here, I mean, that's prettyimportant, but here I would give
it a 2.
5 out of four.
And that's because we're kind ofsplit up into two different
realms.
I guess you could say I have thenational recruiting team.
So then I work with the otherrecruiters who are over

(04:09):
different.
cities such as Nashville,Orlando, Denver, that sort of
thing, and commute with them.
And then in my other realm, I'mworking directly with the
Houston office.
So it's a little difficult toknow kind of who I'm answering
to sometimes because I answer tothe Houston office.

(04:30):
But my manager's on the nationalrecruiting team.
So it's kind of a bit of abalance and a delicate dance
kind of navigating between thetwo.
So that's why I give it a 2.
5 because it's a challenging.

Tevin mcGee (04:45):
Absolutely.
And the position that I hadbefore the one I'm currently
doing now, I was over 32 peopleand managing people is just a
hard job.
Just a hard task to do andhaving to balance so many
personalities and this personwanting different things.
So I definitely think that.

(05:06):
You know, I don't envy thosepeople that have to manage
people, but at the same time,it's very important when it
comes to, you know, if I'm goingto be working for somebody, you,
you want that communication tobe clear.
You want that aspect of your jobto be, to be clear and concise.

Taylor Gee (05:23):
And I have a great manager.
She's super great.
She's always there.
She's helpful.
It's just, sometimes I have tolisten to.
Someone in the Houston office,and then sometimes her and
sometimes their answers don'tmatch up.
So it's kind of difficultnavigating that, but I do have a
great manager and you made agreat point.

(05:43):
There's all kinds ofpersonalities and management
styles too.

Tevin mcGee (05:48):
Absolutely.
So just.
Continuing to work our waythrough the, the pillars
benefits, what kind of benefitsdoes it have, you know, from a
okay insurance type of thing,but what benefits do you have
just having this job in general,as far as being able to work
remote.

Taylor Gee (06:07):
Okay, that's a good question.
Honestly, I mean, the freedom tokind of do things.
You know, if I, if it's a slowmorning, which sometimes when
it's not busy, it is, I can, youknow, read a book.
I can do a side of laundry orhousehold chores in between

(06:28):
doing emails and having meetingsand phone calls.
Let's see you another benefit.
Most people don't think of iswith the travel.
I'm racking up a ton of travelpoints.
So building loyalty with hotelsand airlines.
So you have to stick with one.
You're either a Hilton orMarriott person.

(06:49):
And then you pick your loyaltyto which airline you want to fly
with.
And you kind of build pointsthat way.
So I fly with Southwest becauseNashville is a hub.
I have a list status.
Which is very exciting.
I'm close to getting a companionpass.
So my boyfriend can come ontrips with me for free and have
status with Marriott as well.

(07:10):
So that's some of the perks thatyou don't really think about,
but when you do travel withwork, that's, it kind of eases
the headache of the travel, youknow.

Tevin mcGee (07:20):
So where's the coolest place that you've ever
traveled for work?

Taylor Gee (07:25):
Oh, so it wasn't with these jobs.
I actually was not in aphysician recruiter when I went
here, but I got to go to BarHarbor, Maine, which is.
It's kind of a couple, it'sabout a couple hours from the
tip of the Canadian coast.
It's near, or it's AcadiaNational Park so that was just

(07:46):
super beautiful.
I loved going up there.
I went up there at great timesof the year, around August, and
then again in October.
So that's probably the coolestplace that I've been to.

Tevin mcGee (07:58):
No, that's awesome.
Fun fact about me, which it's,you know, it's either cool or
it's kind of sad.
I've actually never flowncommercial before.

Taylor Gee (08:09):
Oh my goodness.
Do you

Tevin mcGee (08:10):
have, I mean, honestly, growing up, I've been
to a lot of places like, youknow, I've been to Los Angeles,
I've been to many parts ofFlorida, Kentucky, all these
places, but my family was just abig driving.
Family, so it took us two daysto get to Los Angeles, have
family up there.
And we went to Disneyland whenwe were up there.

(08:30):
And then the first time that Iwas actually gonna make that
leap and get on an airplane,COVID hit.
So I was scheduled to go to NewYork and see one of my wife's
best friends up there.
And we just have neverrescheduled anything that's
required us to fly.
So I'm still waiting on thatfirst trip to.

(08:51):
To be on an airplane.
You're

Taylor Gee (08:53):
gonna, well, hopefully love it.
Some people get scared, thatsort of thing, but if you were
excited about it before, y'allshould definitely take the trip.

Tevin mcGee (09:02):
Yeah, I've got a few pilot buddies that are...
That have taken me up inairplanes, but I mean, it's like
27, it's 20 minutes awaydriving.
So it's like a seven minuteflight.
Like we flew from Jonesville toManila.
So I've, I've been in anairplane, just haven't had that
commercial experience just yet.

Taylor Gee (09:20):
Yeah.
Well it can be a little.
Troublesome.
So if you ever need any tips ortricks, when y'all do take the
trip, you can holler at me.

Tevin mcGee (09:29):
Absolutely.
Okay.
So the last pillar that we'vegot to go through is financial
compensation.
You know, we work for we want tobe able to work jobs that we
love going to, but you know,we're here for, for it to be
able to provide a life forourselves as well.
So how does that rank in?

Taylor Gee (09:51):
Yeah, so this will be my top one 3.
8 it's, it pays pretty wellit's, you know, comfortable, but
in previous roles, you, you havea base and then a lot of
companies that I've worked forwould be incentive driven.
So you hire X amount of doctors,you get paid X amount.

(10:14):
So, it's kind of variable inthat way.
My salaries have always beendifferent since I've been
physician recruiting justbecause of the incentives, that
sort of thing.
And then in this role, I.
And worked my way up to a seniorphysician recruiter role.
So I have a bit higher of a basenow, and then I still get some

(10:37):
incentives, but I'm not paidupon how many physicians I hired
that year.
It's kind of a little bit of amore quantitative and
qualitative decision on kind ofhow the incentives are paid out.
So it's paid pretty good.
If you're interested inphysician

Tevin mcGee (10:51):
recruiting.
Absolutely.
So do you think.
And this is just kind of like anoff the wall question.
Do you think the amount ofremote workers, remote jobs has
increased since we've had thepandemic?

Taylor Gee (11:06):
Absolutely.
Definitely.
I think some industries and I'lluse physician recruiting as an
example or recruiting ingeneral, doesn't have to be
doctors, just recruiting ingeneral does not have to be on
site and you can do this jobremotely.
So a lot of companies, you know,Work life balance, remote work

(11:28):
is kind of a buzzword now.
A lot of people want that optionand if your job can do it and
you can perform the tasks, youknow, hold yourself reliable
working from home.
Then.
Yeah, I think.
A lot of people realize that youcan do your work from home.
And you know,

Tevin mcGee (11:48):
10, 15 years ago, it was kind of unheard of to
have a remote job.
So I was just curious if, if youthought that being someone that,
that works remote now, do youthink that you ever see yourself
working back in an office or youthink remote work is just kind
of, kind of your jam right now?

Taylor Gee (12:08):
I would never want to go back to an office again.
I love working remote.
And it's nice when you have yourown little setup, you know, your
own little office, decorate theway you want.
But you know, like right now Iknow we're on a podcast so you
can't see me, but I've got onlike a workout outfit.

(12:28):
I've got my hair down, notwearing any makeup, you know,
and I don't have to wear realclothes every day, which is nice
too.
That's another benefit of it.
And then as far as the, youknow, human piece of it all my
boyfriend works from home aswell.
He's in textiles.
So I feel like I have a littleoffice mate here.

(12:49):
But I do go into the office downin Houston about once a month.
So I get that face to face time,which is great.
And I know I mentioned we havean office here in Nashville too
for the Nashville team and theyhave invited me To come down
there and work sometimes and Iwill every now and then i'm
gonna go in a couple of weekswhen some other leaders from our

(13:10):
team come into Nashville, sothat's nice i'm not

Tevin mcGee (13:17):
Absolutely.
I'm sure it's a great change ofpace from, you know, being able
to be in your home and make aliving and work to be able to
have that face to faceinteraction with people every
now and then.
So.
What does a, what does a typicalday look like for you?
I'm curious.

Taylor Gee (13:36):
Yeah.
So, I mean, it really dependswhich every day is kind of
variable.
I do start around 8 00 AM.
I check my.
from overnight.
If I had applicants apply viasome sort of job boards or my
contact information on LinkedInand on the certain job boards,
they just email me, reach out tome directly.

(13:59):
You know, get back with thecandidates.
Typically around nine.
It doesn't take a whole hour tocheck emails.
I will go get a coffee or grabsome breakfast if I don't, you
know, have any at home.
Like I said, some of the otherbenefits are time.
I will start some householdchores.
Maybe sit and read a book.

(14:19):
Usually I have one to twomeetings spread throughout the
day, and they're all at varyingtimes.
So one day on a Wednesday, I mayhave one at 10 a.
m.
And then on that Thursday, I mayhave one at 1 30 p.
m.
So it's never quite consistent.
And then, you know, the crux ofwhat I do is, if I do have an
applicant reach out, you set upa time to get them on the phone

(14:42):
to learn about them.
Share some information about.
my practice as a whole, what wecan offer in Houston and, you
know, just really connectingwith them.
You know, doctors work all hoursof the day.
So sometimes I may talk to themsuper early in the morning.
Sometimes I talk to them likewhen I'm cooking dinner and

(15:04):
honestly, you know, everywherein between.
Sometimes there'll be a nooncall a four call when they're
Getting out of the and that sortof thing.
So it really is all supervariable.
And then you have days liketomorrow where I will be getting
up very early to drive to theairport and fly to Houston for a
day full of meetings.

(15:24):
So.
It's a little give and take.

Tevin mcGee (15:28):
That's awesome.
That's a, it sounds like youjust have that balance of being
able to keep up with, you know,your house and your, your dog
and things like that, but alsogetting that sense of adventure
with travel.
So I think that that careerwould kind of appeal to a lot of
different people and not tospend too much time on it.

(15:50):
But I.
Was interested in doing somekind of remote work at one point
in my life.
I wanted to be a, uh, like a, acoder, like I wanted to do to
kind of be like a, like a technomad.
So I researched it and, youknow, I was thinking about going

(16:11):
to a, a.
Coding bootcamp and those sortsof things.
Then I got promoted my job and Iwent a different direction, but
it's definitely something thatis appealing to a lot of people,
I would assume.

Taylor Gee (16:22):
Yeah.
And I feel like just with theage we're in, like, that's not
going to go away.
And that's not something that,you know, I think people could
pick up and learn recruiting theart of recruiting, but like not
everyone can learn or understandhow to code, you know?

Tevin mcGee (16:37):
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
And it's still maybe somethingthat I dabble in later.
You know, one thing that I'mseeing just from being a manager
of people for over five years isthat.
People are switching careersmore often than our parents did.

Taylor Gee (16:57):
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
Can you

Tevin mcGee (16:58):
repeat that?
No, I said people are switchingcareers more often than our
parents did.

Taylor Gee (17:03):
Oh, absolutely.
They definitely are.
And I'm, I've been one of them.

Tevin mcGee (17:10):
Yeah, my, my dad has actually worked for the same
company for 35 years.
And that was just kind of thething is you get a job, you work
at that job, you retire at thatjob and then, you know, that's,
that's life.
So I think with the millennialsdown, we are seeing a lot more
people are being more curious asfar as careers go.

(17:32):
And that's kind of one of thethings that sparked me to make
this podcast was let me.
Get in front of people.
Let me get on a zoom call withsomeone talk about their career,
you know, see how they carvedout a way to be able to get
there and get that informationout to people.

Taylor Gee (17:50):
Yeah.
And I can get into kind of thestory of how I got into it
later, but it's something Itruly just fell into.

Tevin mcGee (17:59):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I definitely want to get intoyour origin story.
So, like I said, in theintroduction.
You know, you went to ArkansasState University.
That's where we met, I believe.
So don't, don't kill me if I'mget this wrong.
Were you a AO pie in college?
I was okay.
Okay.
I was, I was thinking it wasbetween that or cow Omega, but I

(18:22):
was leaning AOPA.
So yeah.
Can you tell us a little bitabout your experience in
undergrad and kind of leading upto college?

Taylor Gee (18:31):
Yes.
So I grew up half in Nashville,born and raised here.
And then the other half was thistiny town in Kentucky, like
literally over the state line.
I had kind of a split family.
So I lived with my grandparentshere, then lived with my mom in
Kentucky, long story.
But you know, as a child, I was,I did exciting things all the

(18:54):
time.
Like I was always doingsomething fun and adventurous
and I definitely startedtraveling early.
I was a competitive cheerleadergrowing up.
So I did that all through highschool and then I wound up.
going to Arkansas StateUniversity, and I cheered my
freshman year at ASU.
So I did kind of carry on thecheerleading for a little bit.

(19:18):
I also rushed AOPI my freshmanyear, which was super great.
So much fun.
And, you know, at that point intime, I had been cheerleading
for so many years and I did it,loved it.
My goal was to be a collegecheerleader.
After I completed that, I waslike, you know what I can say I
did it.
I enjoyed it.
But now I want to focus on lifeas a college student and enjoy

(19:42):
getting a little bit moreinvolved in the sorority.
So I kind of worked my way upthroughout the years and various
leadership positions.
Within the sorority and studentcamp, the student leadership on
campus as well.

Tevin mcGee (19:56):
That's awesome.
I'll have to tell my daughterthat you were a cheerleader
because when you, as soon as yousaid competitive cheer, I've got
two daughters that are currentlydoing competitive cheer.
And I know they're still young,but they cheer at JCA and they,
they work with the ASUcheerleaders all the time.
So I'll tell I'll tell mydaughter.
It

Taylor Gee (20:15):
is so awesome.
That's that's great.
I hope they stay with it.

Tevin mcGee (20:20):
Absolutely.
My, my oldest loves it.
She's actually at cheer practiceright now.
So she just tumbles and flipsall over the place all the time.

Taylor Gee (20:29):
Yeah, that was also me before I had two ACL repairs.
So, oh gosh, yeah.
Tell her to stretch and stay,stay

Tevin mcGee (20:39):
healthy.
Yeah.
Okay.
So we talked a little bit aboutyour experience.
What was your degree actuallyin?

Taylor Gee (20:46):
Yeah.
So technically it is ajournalism degree but it fell
under strategic communications.
So that's why I went that route.
I think now Arkansas Stateoffers a public relations or
strategic communications degree.
But when I was there, ittechnically all rolled up under
journalism.
So my degree is bachelor's injournalism.

Tevin mcGee (21:08):
Okay.
What are the top three thingsyou learned from that degree?

Taylor Gee (21:14):
Oh, I learned that I did not want to be a journalist.
I, I love reading.
I love writing, but the act of,you know, like investigative
journalism, just it's a lot offact checking.
I'm kind of someone who likes tomore embellish things.
They're like.
You know, talk about thesuperfluous details of things,

(21:37):
and I'm not just straight to thepoint.
So that's kind of where I waslike, oh, journalism, you know,
fact checking.
That's not really my thing.
You know, something I wished Idid kind of explore a little bit
more when I was there was theyhad like the, the broadcasting,
you know.
I don't program, I guess youcould say so, you know, I know

(21:58):
someone who was in classes withme is now like a news reporter
for, I think she's in Tucson,Arizona.
So you know, and then there wasanother 1 who I saw last that
she was in Greensboro, NorthCarolina.
So there's at least two whograduated from that program that
went on to become newsreporters.
So I wish I gave it a little bitmore time or took a couple more

(22:21):
classes than that, because thatcould have been fun, but I was
pretty dead set on wanting to gointo public relations and
strategic communication.
Before I enrolled at Arkansasstate.

Tevin mcGee (22:34):
Yeah, that's, that's awesome.
And now that you're kind oftelling me a little bit about
your backstory, I can kind ofsee the journalism aspects
because I have to brag on you alittle bit.
You were probably the mostprepared podcast guest I've ever
interviewed.

Taylor Gee (22:48):
Oh, thanks.
That makes me feel

Tevin mcGee (22:51):
good.
When you sent that documentover, I was like, wow, this is,
she made life just super easy.
Now, I'm not saying that, youknow, it always has to be that
way, but just having thatstructure, I kind of work better
with.
So I appreciate that.

Taylor Gee (23:05):
Yeah, you're welcome.
I like structure too.

Tevin mcGee (23:09):
So okay, continuing on the college train here.
What are some of your favoritememories from college?

Taylor Gee (23:16):
So this is tough because I mean, you know, it's
like the days are short or thedays are long, but the years are
short when you're in college.
Honestly, the people I met alongthe way our family now, some of
my best friends.
So it's tough to just nail down.
One memory, you know, with thembut one thing I'm glad you

(23:37):
mentioned that you remembered Iwas an AOPAI now because one
awesome memory I had was myjunior year.
I was a new member educator,which means you're kind of
teaching the new pledges, likethe way that you do things in
your sorority about yoursisterhood, that sort of thing.
So I was a new member educator.
One of two for a pie, andthere's a competition every year

(24:01):
for the pledges called cream ofthe crop.
Where the newest class ofmembers compete for that title,
essentially.
And the whole time I was atArkansas State, I never won that
title.
So when I became the new membereducator, I was bound and
determined.
To, you know, have our girlswin.
And so my other new membereducator and I put together this

(24:23):
awesome routine.
And AOPI wound up winning thataward that year.
So I was super excited when theywere crowned cream of the crop
of 2000.
I guess it was 2012.

Tevin mcGee (24:35):
Well, that's awesome.
That's awesome.
It sounds like you had as muchfun in college as I did.
I definitely met some of my, mybest friends were from college.
It's funny because when me andmy wife, me and my wife have
been married for about six yearsnow and We didn't have a
traditional wedding.
We just kind of got married atthe courthouse.
And then we were like, once weget more established in our

(24:58):
careers, we'll go back and renewour vows.
So on our five year anniversary,we renewed our vows and.
I just remember having 10groomsmen at my wedding.
So she, she met a lot of friendsjust from, you know, her
experience in undergrad and gradschool.

(25:19):
And I'm had a lot of friends aswell.
So we had 20 people with us on,on that day.
So friends becoming family issomething I can definitely
relate to.

Taylor Gee (25:28):
That's awesome.
That's definitely a big partyfor sure, but that's so much
fun.

Tevin mcGee (25:33):
Absolutely.
So if you weren't currentlydoing your job now, what would
you say your dream career wouldbe?

Taylor Gee (25:43):
Oh, so I saw myself.
I kind of this is a toughquestion.
I kind of did it for a littlewhile.
You know, I was interested inweddings and party planning and
I went that route.
When I came out of college andthat was a lot of fun, but I'm
more of a I've learned that I'mmore of a.

(26:05):
Bigger picture kind of personand not minute details again.
I should have realized that withthe whole fact.
But I, I don't want the wholedetailed thing that you really
want your wedding planner to be.
I really got into the side of,you know, working for a wedding
magazine.

(26:25):
So I am a published writer in awedding magazine.
So I got to write.
Some fun pieces about differentvenues or different trends in
the wedding industry at the timefor this wedding magazine and
put together a style shoots.
So I got to kind of pick someyou know, work with different
vendors to put together photoshoots for the magazine.

(26:46):
And I got to be in some of them.
So that was really fun doingthat.
I enjoyed my time with it.
I didn't make a ton of moneydoing it.
It was kind of like.
Between in between gigs, youknow, part time jobs, and I had
the opportunity to buy into afranchise for a wedding planner

(27:06):
based out of Myrtle Beach.
And then I also, at the sametime, had the opportunity to
jump to corporate health careand at that point in time, I was
like, I think I'm going to gothe health care route instead
of.
You know, being my own manager,I guess you could say.

Tevin mcGee (27:22):
Yeah, yeah, it's, that's, that's crazy because I
can kind of relate to the, the,the wedding industry a little
bit.
I actually, me and my, mybrother actually have a, a
bartending business still thatwe bartend weddings on weekends
and different things like that.
So, you know, it kind of keepsyou social.

(27:44):
Yeah.
So.
That's cool.
That's cool.
I didn't, I didn't realize thatyou did that.

Taylor Gee (27:49):
Yeah, I did it for a couple of years, but that
doesn't have anything to do withpositional recruiting, which is
why I didn't really prepare forit.

Tevin mcGee (27:58):
So I'm going to backtrack a little bit because I
had one more kind of collegerelated question that I wanted
to ask you as we're talkingabout coming out of college and
doing different things.
So.
I've got a quick story after Iask you this question about
advisors.
So did you feel like that whenyou were at your time at

(28:18):
Arkansas state, and I know youwent to grad school as well,
that your advisors were helpfulon your journey going through
school?

Taylor Gee (28:26):
On my journey going through school.
Yes, I really felt like theyprepared me and help me pick the
right classes for my path.
I love them.
I know some people would gothrough advisors and change them
when they change majors andstuff, but I had the same one
all four years.
Now, when you had asked.

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Did they do a good job settingme up for post graduation?
I had great advisors, but theycould not have prepared me for
going to a startup company thatplanned bachelorette parties.
Like, startup companies are justso Learn as you go, so there's
no, like, you know, protocol forhow to enter that.

(29:11):
And that was my 1st experiencein, like, the workforce post
college.
So.
It was just kind of chaos allthe time.

Tevin mcGee (29:21):
Yeah, so I'm a firm believer, me and my, me and my
wife have different opinions oncollege and different things
like that.
I think that there aredefinitely certain careers that
you absolutely have to go tocollege for.
What I do think that college ismissing is I wish that just like
you came from Nashville, youwent to Arkansas state.

(29:41):
You went back to Nashville.
I stayed around Jonesboro.
I'm from Jonesboro.
And you know, there's a lot offactors about that.
I've got kids.
My family is here.
You know, I want my girls to beable to grow up around their
grandparents, different thingslike that.
I wish when I was in college,there were some kind of class
that was like, Hey, These arethe types of jobs that are

(30:03):
lucrative and abundant in thisarea.
If you're not planning onstaying in this area, Then you
should probably get a differentdegree because as an 18 year old
kid, I felt like that.
I wasn't really prepared onthere.
Not being a job for my degreegetting out.

Taylor Gee (30:23):
Okay.
That makes a lot of sense.

Tevin mcGee (30:25):
Yeah.
So I.
Have a advisor story.
So my degree, my undergraddegree is in health promotion.
So went through this awesomeinternship at ST Bernard's
health and wellness.
You know, I'm thinking that thisis going to lead to a job
opportunity.
It was really cool.
My my internship advisor wasreally awesome.

(30:47):
So graduation comes, you know,it's just exciting time.
It's the combination of prettymuch your whole life.
You know, you've been going fromKenya garden to first grade all
through high school throughcollege, and now you finally
graduate college, you know, nowit's just, you're, you're going
to get a job.
So I was working as a bartenderat the time and trying to find

(31:08):
jobs reached out to my uh,advisor at the time, who was
also the program manager at thetime.
And I was like, Hey.
You know, I've got this degree,you know, you, you promised me
all these awesome things, youknow, we, we talked about it in
class and his response to methat it was, you either need to
go back to school or you'regoing to have to move across the

(31:31):
country.
And for, for somebody that hadspent the last 4 years, like
trying to get this degree, itwas kind of deflating a little
bit because I would have justchosen a different degree.
You know, at 18, I didn't reallyknow what I was wanting to do.
I'm like, Hey, I enjoy workingout.
I enjoy health and promotingthat.
That's what I'm going to majorin.
You know?

(31:51):
So I just wish that there was aresource like that.
So people could kind of at leastbe a little bit more prepared
for, Hey, you might have to moveif this is what you want to do.

Taylor Gee (32:02):
And it makes you wonder that if students going
through those programs now dohave something like that in
place

Tevin mcGee (32:09):
now.
Yeah, exactly.
Because I mean, I, I think thata lot of people that I work with
in my field and I'm in sales nowthey have degrees that they're
not using.
And obviously college teachesyou a lot more than just
whatever the degree plan is, Ilearned so much valuable
information from college, butI'm not necessarily using the

(32:30):
degree as it was intended for.

Taylor Gee (32:33):
Yeah, that makes sense.

Tevin mcGee (32:36):
Do you think now?
Versus probably, you know, kindof when we were going through,
it's more of a kind ofnetworking, who, you know, type
of environment versus this isthe credentials that you have.

Taylor Gee (32:51):
I, well, first of all, I definitely thought that
back then, like it.
The hands you shake type ofthing.
Yeah.
Back then too.
So I do still think it, youknow, has that networking value
to it as well.
Now for something like thiscareer path that I am in, most
of the time it does require afour year degree, but it doesn't

(33:16):
state in X, you know, like acertain degree.
Like you have to have ahealthcare administration degree
or a strategic.
Patient degree, you could have ahealth promotion degree like you
do, and still be able to kind ofgo down this career path.
So you know, if you'reinterested in it, I think it is
good to have and you could meeta lot of valuable people now, I

(33:38):
would recommend doing like astrategic communications route,
like public relations orsomething along the lines of,
you know, business and if youhave a particular interest in
health care, maybe some healthcare admin classes would be a
good start to.

Tevin mcGee (33:54):
Absolutely.
And like I said, I, I am apromoter of higher education.
I think that people should goand learn and try different
things and you know, see whatyou're interested in.
I just think that, you know,there, there are alternate
routes, which is kind of whywe're doing this podcast.
And it's, it was very valuableinformation for you to say, yes,
you would recommend getting adegree in these things, because

(34:16):
I think that's something thatpeople that are interested in
doing this career can go aheadand start.
Thank you.
Setting their sales up to beingon the road to do that.

Taylor Gee (34:25):
Yeah, absolutely.
And for those who, you know,haven't done that or aren't just
going into college, like it'snot too late because I didn't
find this career path until Iwas 26 years old.
So it's not too late if you'realready working now.
And even if you're our age, ifyou're, you know, 31, 32, like
it's still not too late.

Tevin mcGee (34:46):
Absolutely.
So when you finished undergrad,did you ever see yourself going
back to college for grad school?

Taylor Gee (34:53):
I most definitely did not.
I did not, you know, I wasn'tinterested in going back to
school, but certain events kindof led me to the point of like,
I'm, you know, losing my mind.
I was working for a healthcarecompany and I got let go and it
was not like a performancething.

(35:14):
It was, they got bought out byprivate equity group.
They got rid of my jobbasically.
And I was devastated because Ilove that job.
And, around that time, I waskind of like, well, what am I
gonna do?
I want to stay in health care,looking for a bunch of things.
And then someone, someone in myfamily was like, you could go
back to grad school.
And I guess I was just in thatplace of mind where I was like.

(35:37):
Yeah, that's an option.
And so I pursued that path whilealso looking for other jobs.
That company that I worked withhad just hired their first
position recruiter.
And when I got let go, hereached out to me on LinkedIn
and said, Hey, like, if you wantto get into physician
recruiting, I recommend checkingout this company.

(35:58):
I used to work there and thatwound up being the company that
I worked for for 3 years,getting my start in physician
recruiting.
While simultaneously going backto grad school.
So that was a crazy time inlife.

Tevin mcGee (36:13):
Absolutely.
So we'll kind of transition to alittle bit more like about your
job.
So physician recruiting, youknow, that's not something that
like, if I was five years old,like I'm saying that I want to
be a physician recruiter, youknow what I mean?
So it's, it's interesting.
It is an interesting career, butit's one that I'm not really

(36:34):
familiar with.
Can you.
Kind of just, just, just brieflydescribe what kind of drew you
to becoming that and making thatyour line of work.

Taylor Gee (36:47):
Yeah.
So I've always been a peopleperson.
I like people, I like buildingrelationships and I was really
good at networking and kind of,I don't want to say playing the
name game, but really doingthat.
So I did that kind of in the.
Wedding industry for a while.
And that was all, you know, goodand fun.
But then once I made that switchto corporate healthcare, I knew

(37:10):
I wanted to stay in that realm.
So I was like thinking, okay,what can I do?
And honestly, it was like agodsend that, that Person I used
to work with who was a physicianrecruiter reached out to me
because I was kind of curiousabout it, but still didn't
really know what to do.
And he reached out and was like,Hey, you should look into this

(37:30):
as an option.
And that was kind of my sign islike, yeah, like I'm going to
follow this path.
So call it serendipity, I guess,but I never, you know, thought
kind of like you said, I'm goingto be a physician recruiter one
day.
It just kind of happened.
Came about, if that makes sense.

Tevin mcGee (37:48):
Yeah.
And I think that, you know, fora lot of us graduating college,
you know, just that, what am Igoing to do for the rest of my
life?
That's a question that kind ofweighs heavy on a lot of people,
finding your purpose, findingwhat you're good at.
And, you know, it might come inthe form of you know, a lot of
different things.
So.
You know, I never thought tomyself that I would be in sales,

(38:09):
but, you know, it's somethingthat I'm enjoying and I'm not
saying that I would do it forthe rest of my life, but I'm
enjoying it right now.
And if I find something elsethat I enjoy more, I feel
confident that the experiencesthat I've learned in the jobs
that I've had so far cantranslate into another career.

Taylor Gee (38:27):
Oh yeah.
I think, I think as we, youknow, grow, that's definitely
something that can happen is,you know, transferable job
skills.
You learn as you go.

Tevin mcGee (38:38):
Speaking of job skills, healthcare is one of
those industries that areconstantly changing policies.
How do you keep up with thetrends and changing trends and
changes in the healthcareindustry?

Taylor Gee (38:51):
Yeah, so this is a great question.
As far, you know, for me, itkind of depends on the specialty
you're recruiting for.
So you, you know, gather datanumbers.
There's different spreadsheetson nationwide trends that my
company collects and they kindof filter it down to us.

(39:12):
But honestly, I get theinformation straight from the
source, which is the physiciansthat I'm talking to.
So I talk to them, you know, dayin and day out, and I get their
take on the local job market,the compensation trends.
And it's funny because whenyou're in it long enough, you
see trends start to recycle kindof like fashion does.

(39:33):
So right now I'm recruitinganesthesiologists.
And their market is very similarto radiologists market, which is
the specialty that I recruitedbefore anesthesia and the
summation of it all isphysicians have a great job
market right now because thereis a huge physician shortage and

(39:55):
they're in high demand so theycan be a little bit more
particular about what jobs theytake because everyone needs
doctors right now.

Tevin mcGee (40:05):
Absolutely.
We're living in that time whereit seems like I don't have the
numbers to back this up.
People are going to the doctorin the hospital more and more.
So can you name a challengingscenario that you've encountered
during your time as a physicianrecruiter?

Taylor Gee (40:22):
Yeah.
So for me, it's been getting toknow the areas and the hospitals
you're recruiting for when youdon't live there.
So there are some people thatare called in house physician
recruiters who recruit directlyfor a hospital system.
So, like, in Jonesboro, SaintBernard's are here, like

(40:42):
Vanderbilt Medical UniversityCenter or.
Yeah, so you can be an in housephysician or you can be one like
me where you work for like aprivate or like a practice
management group and they'rekind of deployed all of, you
know, wherever basically.
So I've recruited for placesI've never been to before, like.

(41:02):
Boise, Idaho and Butte, Montana.
That's pretty challengingbecause I know nothing about the
hospital systems.
Never been there.
I don't know what there is to doout there.
So how am I going to sell thisplace to somebody?
But the fun part of it iseducating yourself on the area
and the Tourism, what drawspeople to the area?
What do the locals do?

(41:24):
And then you can honestly gatherthe stats on the hospital from
your organization or, you know,doing your own research by going
to those hospital sites, lookingat their accolades, that sort of
thing.
I love traveling, so this wasalways a fun, a fun part of the
job.
And then with previousemployers, I have been able to

(41:44):
take a trip to see the area andmeet the hospital staff.
So then you could speak to ityourself.
You can speak to physiciansabout your own experiences
there.
I was able to do that withTucson, Arizona, which was a big
hub that I used to recruit for.
And now I recruit strictly forHouston.
So I travel there about once amonth and meet with the staff
there.

Tevin mcGee (42:06):
That's awesome.
That's awesome.
So being a remote worker and notphysically being on site, kind
of like we were just talkingabout, how do you build and
maintain those relationshipswith the physicians and the
organizations?
Like, do you have like astrategy to be able to not be
there, but, you know, still getthat connection?

Taylor Gee (42:27):
Yeah, so honestly, it's going to be texting and
emails when you can't be thereat first.
So.
When I'm talking to candidates,that's kind of how you do it.
You know, back in the day, ifyou talk to an older physician
recruiter, they would be likecold calls, cold calls.
Well, it's the 21st centurymillennial physicians, you know,

(42:48):
most millennials don't even pickup their phone to answer if it's
a number that they don'trecognize.
So let alone, you know, someonetrying to get someone to, Hey,
I've got a job for you.
You know so texting is mostconvenient for physicians.
They like it, especially withanesthesia.
They could be in the O.
R.
and they can, you know, you canget the message when they get

(43:10):
out.
And I like it because it'sunobtrusive because I'm not
sitting there and.
Begging them, like, if they wantto ignore my text or email, they
can just ignore it.
You know,

Tevin mcGee (43:21):
no, absolutely.
And you're, you're absolutelyright.
When it comes to, to answeringphone calls that you don't know,
you know, I'm much more likelyto open an email or something
like that.
Unless.
You know, it has like some kindof caller ID, like, okay, you
know, then I'll answer it.

Taylor Gee (43:40):
And then kind of second part of that question
building the relationships withmy programs.
I, I went through an extensiveinterview process with this
company.
So I knew.
When I was coming here that Iwas meeting with the Houston
team, I had, I interviewed forabout a month and I had about
one to two interviews and phonecalls a week, just because

(44:03):
there's so many differentchannels to go through.
So building that relationship,I've been here for about nine
months now at this company.
So, you know, I'm still buildingthose relationships and being on
site and Houston really.
Helps because I get to learnthings that doesn't come my way

(44:23):
when I'm sitting here inNashville.
Like, I just pick up differentthings in the office, you know
so that's really helpful.
And, you know, I'm stillbuilding those relationships
even now, but, yeah, it's kindof a work in progress always.

Tevin mcGee (44:37):
Absolutely.
And speaking of work in progressand things that are always
changing technology, tech, Ifelt like there's a new app, but
there's a new way to be able tomake something more efficient,
whether it's chat, GPT, somekind of you know, new version of
zoom.
Can you discuss how technology,what technology or tools that
you find crucial to being moreeffective as a remote physician

(44:59):
recruiter?

Taylor Gee (45:00):
Yeah, so I personally love using linkedin
recruiter.
That's a great tool to use tokind of network with physicians
in certain areas that you'reworking in.
And I also use very specific jobboards.
So there's all kinds of jobboards for, you know, us like
monster.

(45:20):
Linkedin is a great job boardactually.
I don't even know I can't eventhink of job boards off the top
of my head right now.
Zip recruiter, but there areSpecific ones to different
medical specialties and I workon one for anesthesia.
Anesthesia specifically calledgas work.
I actually got a physician intoday from gas work who saw our

(45:43):
posting and she attended collegein Arkansas when we did.
So small

Tevin mcGee (45:50):
world.
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
And this is a question I didn'task earlier.
So what made you want to come toArkansas state?

Taylor Gee (45:59):
Yeah.
So my dad actually lives inPocahontas, Arkansas, which is a
very small town.
If you don't know where it's at,it's about an hour ish.
North of Jonesboro, very smalltown.
So my dad lives there long storyshort my senior year of high
school, I was going to go to theuniversity of Kentucky and

(46:21):
audition to be a cheerleaderthere.
I tore my ACL my senior year.
I was basically out my wholesenior year because of that
surgery.
So I was like.
Well, I, I, and I was trying todecide what I wanted to do at
the time.
And when I decided on likepublic relations, strategic
communications, UK did not havethat at the time.

(46:42):
And I was like, I want to join asorority.
I don't have to do that at UK.
Cause they don't even have themajor I want simultaneously.
My dad was like, Hey.
We have a program or a schoolhere about an hour away that has
what you want to do.
They have sororities and thatsort of thing.
Why don't you at least look intoit?

(47:03):
And I thought, I'm not moving toArkansas.
Like, are you crazy?
And I wound up going for acampus tour.
And after that tour, I was like,Yeah, I'll move to Arkansas and
I don't regret it one bit.
It was so great.

Tevin mcGee (47:21):
It's so interesting how people that have never
really like explored theArkansas area have of what it's
like down here.
Like I hear a lot of people thatcome up here for college and
they, they just have this ideaof, of what it would be like,
you know, coming down here.
So it's refreshing to hear yousay that.
They, they, they got you in thecampus tour, you know, they

(47:43):
recruited you to be a Red Wolffor, for those four years.
So that's a really cool thing tohear.

Taylor Gee (47:48):
Yeah.
And I guess part of me was jadedbecause I was from Nashville,
big city, and then I had to goto this small town in Kentucky
and I didn't want to go.
So in my mind, I was like.
Arkansas is going to be likeanother Kentucky, you know, and
I was trying to get away fromKentucky.
So that was kind of why I hadthat jaded opinion, I guess.

(48:11):
And then when I went and saw itfor myself, I was like, Oh, this
is great.
Actually.

Tevin mcGee (48:16):
Absolutely.
So we talked a little bit aboutCOVID and its effect on how it
affected the workplace.
So.
One thing that they kind of wentover in my benefits meeting, you
know, it's open enrollment timeat my job was the option to be
able to see your doctor via liketelehealth.

(48:38):
So like they, they're saying howsomehow they can do your whole
physical over the internet.
And it just takes like 10 or 15minutes to be able to get it set
up.
And you don't, one of the drawsfrom that is you don't have to
pay copays.
Do you think that With morephysicians opting for this kind

(48:58):
of at home type of service.
Is this affecting the healthcareindustry?

Taylor Gee (49:05):
Ooh, this is a good question.
And I don't know if I have ananswer.
I mean, I don't know ifaffecting is the right word, but
it's definitely changing theindustry.
Yeah, absolutely.
And because, because it'sproviding accessibility to
people who may not be, you know,you have access to Wi Fi, you

(49:28):
may not have access to a ride ifyou're younger or a car to take
you, you know, transportation totake you to your appointments.
So, yeah, I think that it'schanging in a good way.
When it comes to the physicianworkforce.
I don't see how that changesthings just because I personally

(49:49):
recruit for anesthesia and whenI recruit anesthesiologists, you
know, their role is there to putyou under while you're being
operated on, whether it's havingan epidural, cause you're having
a baby or you're having a kneesurgery like me or a cosmetic
procedure or open heart surgery,a transplant, you know,

(50:10):
anything, So those physicianscan't work from home.
Like they have to be there atthe OR.
So that's kind of the experienceI have with it.
Now, when I worked in radiology,I worked for a radiology
practice and radiologists.
are the physicians who do theimaging on you.
So if you break your bone, youget an x ray.

(50:30):
If you tear your ACL like I did,you get an MRI.
If you're in a car wreck and hityour head, you get a CT scan.
So they do the imagingbasically.
And the practice that I wasworking for when I recruited for
radiology was a teleradiologypractice.
So those physicians were, thatwas very popular because there

(50:51):
are, you know, on siteradiologists at hospitals and
with COVID and the pandemic alot of people wanted to leave
the on site, you know, piece ofit and a lot of radiologists
were working for remote work.
So that was very interesting.
Now when it comes to primarycare, I, I haven't recruited
primary care, so I don't know ifthat really affects.

(51:14):
sex, those positions whetherthey're on site in the office or
working from home.

Tevin mcGee (51:21):
I got you.
It's just, this whole interviewhas just been very fascinating
because it's kind of opening upthe door of something that I
didn't really even know existedand kind of just to, you know,
just peeking behind the curtainof, you know, what you get to do
every day.
So one of the sayings that.
Is big in the medical, not inthe medical, the mental health

(51:42):
field that my wife always tellsme is sharing crap, which was,
which means celebrating reallyawesome people.
So can you give us a successstory that you've had in your
job?

Taylor Gee (51:56):
Yeah.
So this, I'm trying to think ofwhich way to go with it because
I, you know, help physicians.
I help them find jobs andconnect with them.
They're always great recruiterstoo.
So really tapping into thatnetwork, which is great.
But 1 story in particular thatmakes me feel good is, my

(52:18):
radiology practice had aphysician a father who worked in
Illinois.
He did not work for my, I mean,he worked for the company I
worked for, but I was over theremote practice and he worked
for a practice in Illinois.
So different practice, but stillmy company and his son reached
out to me.
His son was a.

(52:39):
Fellow or a resident at Yale inConnecticut, and he had followed
the radiology residency as wellas his father's footsteps.
And he reached out to us becausehe was interested in our company
and I worked with him.
I met with him in person on atrip.
Actually met with him and hewound up signing with that

(52:59):
radiology practice.
And so him and his father get towork for the same employer doing
the same thing, which I thoughtwas really cool.
Kind of being able to carry onthe family tradition.
And I helped Kind of, you know,help with that.

Tevin mcGee (53:15):
No, that is, that is incredible.
And I don't know if I mentionedthis earlier, but you know, my
dad has worked for Coca Cola for35 years.
And, and so when I left therestaurant business, me and my
twin brother went to go work atCoca Cola and that's currently
where I work now.
So it was kind of like, Oh mygosh.

(53:36):
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was kind of like a wholefamily thing that I was really
proud of.
You know, there was a, there wasa point where my brother was in
one department, I was in anotherdepartment and then my dad was
in a third department and we gotto share that bond of being able
to see each other all day atwork.
So it was been, it's been reallycool being able to work with
family so I can definitelyresonate with that.

(53:59):
And for you to be able to be theperson that kind of made that
happen, that's a really coolstory.
I appreciate you sharing

Taylor Gee (54:05):
that.
That's, that's a really coolstory about you and your brother
and your dad.
That's awesome.

Tevin mcGee (54:12):
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, as I get older, familystarts to become more and more
important to me.
So.
It's definitely something that,that, that ranks at the top of
that list.
So um, can you describe the,like, is there a certain skills
or qualities that you believe tobe crucial for success in the,

(54:32):
in this field based on yourexperience?

Taylor Gee (54:36):
Yeah.
I mean, first and foremost, youdefinitely need to be a people
person.
And you know, some people arelike.
I hate people.
I want to, you know, lock myselfaway.
And some people are like, I'mtotally a people person.
But it's not just about likingpeople.
You have to not be scared toreally get to know them, ask
them questions to betterunderstand what the physician is

(54:58):
looking for and what ismotivating their job search.
Why are they looking in Houston,Texas?
You know, a lot of people I talkto are from there.
So they want to go back there.
A lot of other people like theirspouses, you know, it's a huge
medical community in Houston.
So their spouses are gettingjobs there.
So they're looking for jobsthere.
And then you have other peoplewho are like, I've just never

(55:20):
been, I'm looking at like 15different cities across the
country type of thing.
So you really have to understandtheir motivations, why they're
looking for that job.
And in a way.
Recruiting is a form of sales,so you can't be scared of
rejection either and you willget a lot of nose.
Now to be a great physicianrecruiter, I think learning more

(55:42):
about your specialty you'rerecruiting for and those
respective markets.
will help you be on top of yourgame.
So like I never recruitedanesthesia before I came to this
job nine months ago.
I'm still learning a lot aboutit.
And when I was working for theradiology practice, I felt like
I could have conversations withthose radiologists as good as I

(56:05):
could have without having goneto medical school myself.
So if you can speak the lingoand understand it they'll,
they'll open up to you morebecause they trust you.

Tevin mcGee (56:17):
Absolutely.
And that's, that's reallyvaluable information.
And, you know, that's kind ofwhy I wanted to put this episode
out because one being in remotework is its own sector being a
you know, physician recruiter isits own job.
So.
If someone is kind of interestedin the space, this is kind of a
blueprint, if you will, on howthey can get there based on

(56:38):
someone who's already doing thisin the field.
Yeah,

Taylor Gee (56:42):
I hope I can be a help.

Tevin mcGee (56:44):
Absolutely.
So what is some advice that youwould give to somebody?
Let's say this person's 18 yearsold.
They're considering the exactcareer path that they want to be
a remote of a physicianrecruiter based on your
experiences.
What's the quickest way to beable to get there?

Taylor Gee (57:02):
Yeah.
So honestly, like start applyingfor jobs.
Most of the time you won't landa physician recruiter job on the
first try.
It's kind of something you workyour way up to.
So ways around that are you canstart recruiting other health
care professionals, maybe suchas.
RNs or therapists or licensedpractical nurses.

(57:26):
And then you can work your wayup to physicians.
And it, you don't even have tostart with healthcare
recruiting.
You can recruit other thingslike it or.
mAybe not, you know, executivesbecause I feel like that's going
to be very kind of specific,like physicians are but like I.
T.
People, H.
R.
People, you know, recruitingjust different kinds of people.

(57:47):
Getting your feet wet is a greatway to, but if you know, you
want the healthcare focus, thereare ways.
To kind of get in that with likenurse recruiting, therapist
recruiting, that sort of thing.
As far as the job search goes,you can search for talent
acquisition talent scout jobs.
sourcing jobs or even juniorrecruiter roles.

(58:10):
Because I started as a talentscout, which is basically a
junior recruiter role, and Iworked my way up to where I am
today as a senior physicianrecruiter.
I learned so many valuablethings during that time, and I
would not be the recruiter I amtoday without it.
And you really just learn theindustries, learn your
specialties and just basicpeople skills.

(58:31):
too.
So it's very interesting.
And then obviously talking to aphysician recruiter.
I'm happy to volunteer as onefor anyone.
And talk to them about theirexperiences.
Like I mentioned earlier, Irecruit for practice management
group.
And then if you talk to an inhouse recruiter, someone who
recruits directly for thehospital system, you're going to

(58:51):
get different experiences.
And I'm not saying that one isbetter than the other.
I'm just saying I can't Speak toan in house recruiters
experience because I've neverdone it.
So it's probably just, you know,apples to oranges at that point
in time.
Other things I guess I can leaveyou with would be be personal,
be confident, be yourself.

(59:12):
Talking with physicians dorequire a certain level of
sharpness and sophistication.
Some people may get scared or alittle, I don't want to say
turned off, but intimidated bythat, but physicians are people
too, you know, they.
you know, don't be scared ofthem.
So just be confident and sharpand sophisticated when you're

(59:36):
working with physicians.

Tevin mcGee (59:38):
No, that's, that's a lot of, a lot of nuggets of
information there.
And that that, that segment thatyou just explained there.
So one of the last questionsthat I want to ask you is, so
being someone.
Me being someone that has beenin the same job for over six
years now.
What is the interview processlike for landing a job like

(59:59):
this?
Like what kind of questions dothey ask and what does it look
like?

Taylor Gee (01:00:03):
Oh my gosh.
Okay.
So let's see, I'm trying tothink back to my first job in
physician recruiting, but Ireally can't.
That was over five years ago, soI just don't remember, but in
this role.
This may not be super helpfulbecause I'm in a senior role, so
it may not be helpful forsomeone starting out, but it was

(01:00:25):
more about kind of situationalthings.
Of course, they want to do.
You know, culture checks, makesure you're going to be a fit,
that sort of thing, personalitywise, but you know, it was
really having conversations,this interview process about
what I've done historically forother groups and kind of my

(01:00:46):
thought process.
Because coming into Houston thispractice in particular has done
things the way they've done itfor a long time, and they're
having okay results, but theywant to be better and they need
help getting better.
So I was kind of hired as thatperson to kind of bring in this
shift of innovation.

(01:01:07):
And Implementing this new way ofrecruiting in Houston, and
we're, you know, I'm nine monthsinto this role, and we're just
now really starting to do thatbecause there's a lot of things
in play, but my interview withthis company was really
situational things like, whathave you done in previous roles

(01:01:30):
in, in this way or helped thishappen?
And how do you think?
Strategically to change somethings.
So they were really trying toget through or understand my
thought processes on things andsome feedback I've gotten from
my boss or manager over the past9 months is, you know, we hired

(01:01:52):
you for this exact kind of outof the box thinking that you
have.
And this is what we need here inHouston.
So, you know, as far as tips forinterviewing, obviously be
yourself.
And this goes for not justposition recruiting, but be
yourself.
It's okay if you, you know, haveto pause and think, fully listen

(01:02:14):
to the questions and thenprovide your answers you know,
from the heart, I guess youdon't have to sit and prepare
your answers cause they wantsomething honest, you know.
But as far as specific toposition recruiting I can't
really think of anything at thispoint in time.
Because it's been a while.

Tevin mcGee (01:02:34):
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
No.
And I think you gave a lot ofvaluable information that they
can kind of use to think, okay,if I do find myself in an
interview with.
One of these types of you know,whether it's recruiting nurses,
just any kind of recruitment jobthat would be remote.
I think that the informationthat you gave would be helpful.

(01:02:56):
You know, you've got meconsidering like, man, do I know
someone that would want to dothis job just for how good of a
storyteller you are talkingabout your, your career?
And I appreciate you coming onand doing this.

Taylor Gee (01:03:09):
Great.
Thank you so much.
And I, I really do enjoynetworking with people and
connecting them to it.
You know, I'm glad you picked mefor the remote portion slash
physician recruiter, but that'swhy I said what I do, because
it's not something that reallycomes to mind as an option.
More people should know aboutit.

(01:03:30):
And you know, if it's a fit forthem, I'm happy to be a resource
and connect them in other waysto, to see if this is the right
fit for those people.

Tevin mcGee (01:03:40):
Absolutely.
So what Taylor, you have been awonderful guest on the show and
I appreciate you coming on.
Is it okay if we put your socialon in the show notes so people
can connect to you and ask youmore questions if need be.

Taylor Gee (01:03:54):
Yeah, definitely.
I'm on LinkedIn.
I'm on Instagram my personalemail.
I'm trying to think Facebook.
I don't have TikTok.
I've, I've drawn the line there,but, um, but yeah, I'll send
over my, my specials for you.

Tevin mcGee (01:04:11):
Absolutely.
So yeah, we'll have those in theshow notes so you can connect
with Taylor.
If this is something that youfind interesting, and if you
found value in this episode ofthe podcast, please give us a
follow on Apple podcast orwherever you get your podcast.
And I appreciate you taking thetime, you know, despite the
technical difficulties at thebeginning, I think we've got a

(01:04:32):
lot of valuable information thatpeople are going to find helpful
in their career journey.

Taylor Gee (01:04:39):
Great.
Cause I can talk a lot.
So I hope it wasn't too much.

Tevin mcGee (01:04:43):
No, no, it was perfect.
So this has been another episodeof the Clever Angle podcast.
You can find me on X at theClever Angle, Instagram at the
Clever Angle.
And this episode will be comingout on November 30th.
So two weeks from tomorrow.
But Taylor, thank you again forbeing on the show.

Taylor Gee (01:05:02):
Thank you for having me, Tevin.
It was great catching up with

Tevin mcGee (01:05:05):
you.
Absolutely.
And like I said, if I'm in theNashville area, I will
definitely love to connect withyou.
so Thank you again.

Taylor Gee (01:05:14):
Yes, of course.
Take care.
Okay.

Tevin mcGee (01:05:16):
Take care.
This has been another episode ofthe Clever Angle podcast until
next time.
Peace.
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