May 28, 2025 • 39 mins
Got laid off? Had an identity crisis? Spiraled over a cold brew and Champagne? Same.
Welcome to Episode 2 of Clocked In, Checked Out, titled "Unemployed, Unfiltered, and Slightly Unhinged ft. Hana" your go-to podcast for post-layoff chaos, career pivots, situationships and unfiltered emotional glow-ups.
This week, we’re flipping the script. My ex-coworker and real-life spiral witness Hana interviews me about the aftermath of getting laid off. From the ego crash to the awkward LinkedIn post to the Tuesday afternoon breakdowns we don’t talk about enough, we’re going there.
In this episode, we get into:
• Job loss grief and the ego death of being unemployed
• Crying in public (and pretending you’re fine on Zoom)
• Soft-launching your layoff spiral on social media
• Rebuilding identity without a job title
• Emotional burnout, productivity guilt, and post-layoff glow-ups
• Navigating friendship shifts when your calendar’s empty but your head is full
Whether you're job hunting, emotionally spiraling, or just here for the vibes, you’ll feel seen.
✨ This week’s cocktail: The Spiral Spritz
Fizzy, slightly bitter, and secretly strong. Just like your post-layoff personality.
This episode is part breakdown, part glow-up, and fully on brand.
Grab your Spiral Spritz and come spiral responsibly.
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Hit by a layoff, processing life on the treadmill, or feeling stuck in your twenties? We get it. Let’s talk.
Email ClockedInCheckedOutPod@gmail.com or slide into the DMs — and maybe we’ll spiral together on air.
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(00:00):
Hi, everyone, welcome back. You're listening to Clocked In
checked out. This is going to be where
corporate meets chaos, burnout gets a mic, and royal dolphin
gets dragged again. I'm Joseph Singh, your host for
most of this episode, your unfiltered bestie, and this week
your interview subject because let's get to know me a little
(00:21):
bit better before we dive into every week's episode.
That's right, we're flipping thescript.
And joining me today is someone who knows exactly what it's like
to watch me spiral both in teamsand honestly in personal life.
My former Co worker and current chaos companion Hana can't
(00:44):
pronounce her last name. Sheik, I think.
I think it's something along there.
She's taking the mic and asking me the questions that I usually
like to dodge in therapy and keeping it really real, which I
think is really rude, to be honest, because I should be
asking you the questions. But it's also fair.
So yeah, things are about to getreal.
(01:05):
In this week's episode called Unemployed, Unfiltered and Still
Unhinged, we're gonna be really talking about what happens after
the layoff. So like life after layoff, when
the dust settles and what you'rereally left with is just a
resume and a mild identity crisis.
Because it's hit me quite hard the last couple of weeks.
(01:26):
This is going to be the part where no one glamorizes the
weird grief, the friendship shifts, the spiral snacks like
me, the healing and the hustling.
And we're going to be doing it with a drink in one hand.
So Speaking of today's drink, today's cocktail is called the
Spiral Spritz. Cheers.
(01:46):
This is a little bit of apparel.I can't even say.
Aperol. Aperol, sparkling wine, lemon
soda, and a splash of emotionally instability.
What should you say? I can't even say.
Splash right a. Splash A.
Splash of emotional instability because let's just be real, it's
(02:08):
what you'd serve if your quarterlife crisis had bubbles.
For me, probably midlife becauselike would have been ages ago.
About 15 years. So let's get into it.
So before Hana, before you take it away, I do have a little
disclaimer after last week's episode.
(02:30):
I've got a lot of DMS and a lot of text messages asking if I was
single again even though I shot the episode with my wedding ring
on. Where is it?
It's right here. It's on.
It's because of all like the innuendos I was mentioning and
spoiler, I'm not Israel and I are still very much together.
(02:52):
In fact, he was actually behind the screen as we were filming.
Say hi, Israel, hello. He's literally right here.
So basically I'm just unhinged on air or maybe also in like
real life maybe or this is just who I.
Am I think a little. Not at all.
Probably what got me in trouble quite a bit in life.
Probably. Well, mostly.
(03:14):
But let's get the party started.Are you ready, Hannah?
No. I need to like, Chuck this whole
thing down. You're my foundation, OK?
I'm not sweating, right? Girl, please.
It's Penty. Mine too.
Oh, I have the blur tent. I don't have the blur tent.
I don't know which one I have. I should have signed my own.
You don't have enough money to have a lawyer currently.
(03:37):
Where's my lawyer? Oh, you have a?
Lawyer world dating you do have a.
Lawyer. Oh, no.
We love her. I'm getting in trouble.
All right. Are you ready?
Are you ready for it? Time, time, time.
OK, I have my questions written on these cue cards, but I'm
wondering what you have on your cue cards.
(04:03):
My cue cards have affirmations that noodle Rd. because since
you're interviewing me, mine says you're doing great.
Sweetie, give the people what they want you, which is me, not
you, and you're a star. I think they want us both.
No, I think it needs to be closer to your mic.
Clearly you've never shot a video before.
(04:23):
I haven't. We're doing it OK.
All right, let's do this. All right.
Before we get into your layoff, I have a couple questions just
about you. What?
You ready? Yeah.
OK. What led you to your last job?
How'd you get there? What led me to my last job and
how did I get there? Well, I mean, I've been in
beauty quite for a very long time.
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I've done skin care. I love skin care.
I've done the whole makeup thing, you know, when I was with
another beauty brand within the same company, I've done fashion
which is in my background and you feel like the only thing in
beauty that I had not done was hair.
But not only that, also because I lack hair.
(05:04):
I know when we lived in New York, I had like a full blown
Mohawk and everything, but like little by little my hair was
like gone. So when I saw the opportunity to
work with another beauty world, you know, that did hair, I
jumped on the opportunity because I wanted to learn more
about it, understand what hair was and like how it works
because it is very different than like skin care, but also
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similar at the same time. But it's a different beast.
I feel it's a different set of knowledge that you needed.
And not only that, but it was also a product marketing
position and education that I really wanted.
I wanted to learn how to do pipeline product innovation and
I took that and then I ran with it.
(05:48):
Yeah. Speaking of that, your job kind
of like shifted over the time that you were there.
Shifted. Shifted.
Into many different lanes. Do you want to do you want to
talk about that a little more? Yeah.
You know, I'm very grateful for the position that I had, to be
honest, and I got to learn a lot.
(06:09):
I think in most companies you get hired to do something in one
role, right? The beauty in this company, no
pun intended, literally no pun intended, was I was able to be
in my position but also learn other aspects of it.
And that's what really excited me about it.
I was able to learn a little bitof like sales, a little bit of
PRA, little bit of like influencing, a little bit of
(06:32):
social media, you know? And that's what I that's one
thing I really enjoyed about it.You got to do a little bit of
everything at times. Was it overwhelming?
Yeah, it was. Yeah, when we were launching and
we were. Launching anything, it was just,
you know, we, we all had a say in everything and that's what I
liked about it and we all dippedour hands in everything, right.
(06:57):
So you got to experience what other verticals were doing
right. I think in most companies that
they're so structured that you don't get that.
I want to say beauty again, beauty of having it.
So it did my my role did shift quite a bit and I did enjoy the
shift that came with it. Yeah.
(07:17):
What do you think? It was like your favorite part.
My favorite? Part of everything.
The creative aspect of it, and that's in terms of what I did in
product marketing and education.Being creative, being open,
looking at trends, looking at like what's coming out.
I've always believed in like, you know, whatever brand I work
for, I want to be like a trend setter versus a trend follower.
(07:38):
Yeah. And you pushed that and we we.
We did initially we did because we did work together on it.
We pushed that envelope quite fucking hard, you know?
Yeah. We ran out of swipes on fucking
Hinge, you know, But we pushed that envelope really hard.
And what was the question? What was your favorite part?
(08:02):
I think the creative aspect, being able to like bring product
and innovation, I think that's the exciting part.
It's so when you're bringing something to like the beauty
world, right? It's also something like that
was exciting. Like you've got to look at the
newest and coolest ingredients, like the newest products and
like being like, oh, this product would be really cool.
(08:23):
I think that's what made it really exciting.
I was kind of hoping you would say your favorite part was
working with your favorite ex Coworker, me.
I mean, that was also fun too, but let's really talk about,
(08:44):
since I'm nine, my cue card. Speaking of you, you should tell
the audience on what you thoughtof me.
This is not about me. Oh, oh, but it is.
If we're gonna go there, we should really talk about what
you thought of me when you firstwere exposed to who I was.
So I met Joseph. So we met because we had a photo
(09:08):
shoot planned or the team had a photo shoot planned and you had
just joined and. Really like a month ago.
We had a very last minute switchup where product needed to get
taken to. Was it Texas?
Where was it? OK.
And I I. Flew there for like two hours.
(09:29):
Yeah. And I graciously declined the
offer to take the product myself.
And Joseph volunteered. I sure did.
And we what? We had to meet up in Emeryville.
Yeah. So I was at the office.
I was zooming in on Joseph's photo because I didn't know what
(09:50):
he looked like. And when I saw him, I was like,
oh, oh, this man looks like he'sjust like a total fuck boy.
I'm not going to like him at all.
This is not going to go well. And then I met him and I was
like, oh. He's gay.
He's a. Gay man, I'm completely wrong
(10:11):
and that's where a beautiful. Friend of a douche Blossom.
And that's where it blossomed. It was great.
It was amazing. I love to call Joseph corporate
Joseph when he turns it on, and he definitely taught me a lot in
my time with him there. Well.
Thank you. That's really nice of.
You that's Yeah sweetie, that's what talking about your favorite
(10:33):
Co worker means no. But she's not here.
Just kidding, all right? Anyway, I think everyone is
tired of hearing about you, so maybe let's switch into talking
about you getting laid off. Why don't you kind of walk me
through the day? I know you kind of talked about
(10:53):
like finding out and like the lead up to it, but like what
happened? Well in the last episode I might
have left out a few details about me being laid off, but
when I was laid off I had one ofmy good friends sitting right
next to me when it happened. And when I shut my computer off,
she immediately looked at me andshe was like what's going on?
(11:14):
And I told her, I'm like, I justlost my job Immediately.
This woman dropped everything. She took me for a walk.
She took me out to lunch. To the bar she.
Took me to the bar, literally took me to the bar.
She was there for me the minute it happened and she has been
(11:37):
there for me since it has happened, you know.
But I think I went to like a fewbars that day.
So I went to a bar that day after I got laid off, and I
think you and I went to yoga. We went to Yoga Sculpt, I had
work and then we went to Yoga Sculpt after.
(11:59):
Yeah, we went to yoga sculpt after it happened and we did
yoga sculpt pretty buzzed. I did yoga sculpt pretty buzzed.
You didn't. You were just like looking at.
Me. I was like, Joseph, are you
good? I was.
Great. I was feeling great.
I was downward dogging. You were singing along to the
songs. For sure.
(12:21):
But literally that's what happened.
And then after that, we got ready and I think we went to
another bar, you and I, where wegot like trashed a little bit.
Yeah. So that's what that day kind of
was like. Yeah, it was a good day.
Maybe with alcohol it wasn't a great day.
(12:42):
It was a. *. These affirmations are really
getting used. To that, they're really helping
me right now. Was there a moment like maybe
like a week later, whenever later that it like truly sunk in
for you? I don't think it's sunk in until
about 10 weeks later. So I think about two weeks
(13:03):
later, No, two weeks ago, it sunk in.
OK, I think immediately, like I mentioned in my last episode, I
went immediately into survival mode.
Yeah, looking for a job, reaching out to my network,
reaching out to my contacts on getting a job, seeing if there's
anything out there just like networking, right?
Like, I have a pretty amazing network, right?
(13:23):
And amazing friends in the industry, both like tech and
beauty, right? But it didn't hit me until, I
want to say, 2 weeks ago. What changed?
I think just not having like that steady income, not being
able to like work. I like working.
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I like doing things, you know, Ilike building brands.
I like being creative. And I think that's why this
podcast was kind of born from it.
But it hit me probably like 2 weeks ago and about a week ago,
a couple of people noticed like a shift in like my behavior.
I'm usually very like, happy, very go lucky, right?
(14:06):
Like, and anything that like breaks me or cracks me, I
typically don't like to show it,you know that.
Yeah. And I think a lot of people at
the gym know that. Yeah.
And like, my friends know that, right.
I think there's only a few people, you know, I can count
with one hand who I have been talking to and kind of venting
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to about it on like a daily and regular basis.
I think with the market out there and people being laid off,
you know, it just puts more people in the pool.
Yeah. And that's been like scary, you
know, And I think that's what's,that's what those are the things
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that start to get me a little bit scared, right?
Like it's been 3 months, literally 3 months.
Yeah. I can't believe it's been.
Three months. I know it like flew.
By, by, yeah. But there's been things that
I've been doing to kind of keep keep that keep me going.
But it's been. You cry.
(15:09):
This is a safe space. I think, I just think it's been,
it's been hard. It's been difficult.
Yeah. I don't want to be that person
that people, people are like, oh, Joseph's like bothering me
for this. Joseph's bothering me for that.
I don't like to rely on. Yeah, you know that.
Yeah. I'm an Aquarius.
I will hold that couch myself ifI need to take it out.
No one has to help me, right. But I think when time comes, if
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you need help, ask for it. In the last couple of weeks,
I've, I've been really asking for help.
Yeah. Because I don't know what's
going to happen, right? You, you can't predict the
future. You know, everyone out there is
like, you have such an amazing background, you'll get a job.
You don't know that. Yeah, yeah.
You don't know that. It's fair.
Yeah. You kind of mentioned you have
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like a wide network, but we've talked about it.
You haven't like posted on LinkedIn or you didn't feel like
comfortable posting about it on LinkedIn.
Posting on LinkedIn for like a while, right?
It was this week, wasn't it? Last week.
OK, Yeah. I was nervous to post on
LinkedIn. Yeah, you can tell me.
(16:18):
I've been getting uncomfortable talking about it.
I was a little nervous to post on LinkedIn because I didn't
know what people were going to think.
I think The thing is you have this fear of kind of being
vulnerable, especially on like LinkedIn, I think, right?
Like they're like, don't say open to work.
Yeah, right. Because it doesn't look good,
(16:39):
right? Don't say like you got laid off
or you're like looking for a job, right?
I think 3 months into it, I finally decided just to post it
because I needed help. Yeah, and I need help, right?
Like, I'm looking actively looking for a job.
Active, active, actively seekingfor a job.
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And to be honest, I realized there's nothing wrong with it.
Yeah, you got laid off. Post about it.
Let people know. Yeah, hey, this happened to me.
No bad intentions, but I need tosee what else is out there.
Like help me, right. And it gained some amazing
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things. To be honest, I, it took, it
took a lot in me to post it because I was also embarrassed
of what people were going to think.
I didn't want people to be like,oh, well, he got like laid off.
Let's not hire him. I mean, there might be some
people that do that. Right.
Sure. Spot and he posted about it.
Right, there's always going to be a hater.
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There's always going to be a hater.
I feel like you're hating me right now because I'm probably
my favorite Co worker. So I'm asking that first thing
question. But I don't think there's any
shame in doing that. Yeah.
Of saying, like open to work or saying anything like that.
Like I just. I think it's fine if you.
I should. I feel like I should have posted
sooner. Yeah.
(18:01):
You know, I reached out to a lotof people after I got laid off.
But I feel like posting on LinkedIn, it's like, it's like,
listen, people put a lot of things out on social media.
Yeah, they do, right. But at the same time, it's like
people only put out the positiveshit on social media.
For sure. Right.
Yeah. It's like you're putting out
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your favorite picture on like a fucking dating app.
Look at me. Look how cute I am.
But you know, deep down inside you got issues.
Yeah, right. We all do.
We all. Do right?
I can see through the picture. I see you bitch, right?
But at the same time it's like 3months in, it hit me.
I'm out there looking actively. So I just said fuck it.
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Yeah, host it. Yeah.
Do you feel like you were expecting somebody to reach out
to you that like didn't reach out to you or kind of vice
versa, like throughout the. Whole process?
You mean after my layoff? Yeah, like after I posted.
Only just like after your layoffin general.
Yeah, I think I was very surprised.
Yeah. You know, I think a lot of
people did reach out to me within like the first couple of
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days, right? Some people shocked me,
actually. The ones who like reached out,
like actually surprised me, but I thought other people would
reach out that that didn't, you know, And that's OK.
Like I have no ill will towards anyone and that's OK.
That's just them. Maybe, you know, seeing it from
their perspective. Maybe they just don't know how
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to process it or anything. But there were some some things
I was like surprised by. Anything you'd want to share?
Not yet. The tea is too hot the.
Tea is too hot. I'm sweating already, all right?
You want a sip? Yeah, I was going to.
Say I need like a gallon of thisshit.
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OK, we can lighten it up a little bit.
Lighten up with what? In like the spiral post like
layoff and you thinking about what like your next job would
be. Has there been like a job that
came up for you that you were like fuck it, I'll just do X?
(20:12):
Like me like like. Be on only fans.
Israel, are we going to go on only fans?
He said. No, but you're the one who said
yeah initially. No, I'm not not going to go that
extreme. I mean, but like something else?
Like what? I don't know anything.
(20:34):
No, I haven't thought about that.
Oh, she only wants to stay in corporate, not me catching you
with a light hearted question. I don't.
Is there anything else I wanted to do beyond like corporate
basic? Yeah.
I mean started this podcast. Yeah.
Is that a safe answer? I guess, yeah, like.
Where like go on a dating app orsomething?
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No, to make money. You're not going to make money
on a dating app. You're just going to lose money
there, unfortunately. Unless it's a free subscription.
Unless it's only feat. We can do only feet, Israel.
We can do only feet. What do you think he's.
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He's ignoring. You.
That's a nap. Probably sleeping.
He's probably sleeping. OK, switching gears a little
bit, everyone knows that you canbe, obviously you're going
through a rough time, but you can be a little bit dramatic on
occasion. What is the most dramatic text
message you've sent in? Like the last week, you can look
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at your phone. What's the most dramatic?
I can't. My phone's still here.
What's the most dramatic text message that I've sent in the
last week? Yeah, dramatic.
He think. He thinks he's not dramatic,
just so that everyone knows. Yeah, you're also very dramatic
do I'm going to read your text messages next.
Time. No, it's OK, I thought.
(21:58):
What's the most dramatic text message that I've sent in the
last? I don't know, probably because I
wanted to talk to someone about some situations that happened.
I don't know, like the most dramatic.
He's not ready to share. I'm not.
Maybe that's a whole episode. Maybe.
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The most dramatic text messages that you've.
Ever sent? No, everyone, because you've
sent me some damn good dramatic.That's pretty true.
That's probably true. Can you talk about, like, what's
the most dramatic thing you've done in the last three months?
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Probably booked a last minute trip to Mexico within 12 hours
and left with a couple of my friends.
That was pretty dramatic. It was.
Spontaneous. It was like a Tuesday.
Yeah, it literally. I booked it on a Tuesday and
left on a Wednesday morning. She said goodbye, said bye and
then it hit me after I came back.
(23:01):
You were like, what did I do? And like the layoff, but I would
say that would be the most dramatic thing I probably done,
if that's even considered. Dramatic.
That's not the most dramatic, but I think that passes, that's
a very dramatic for you thing todo because you're a bit of a.
(23:21):
Planner myself and slamming my face into a pillow.
Yeah, that might be a little dramatic.
All right, we're gonna switch gears.
I think we're done looking up there.
I think we're done with your layoff, right?
Yeah, we don't want to talk about your layoff anymore, but
that's all right. I think we're kind of all right
for this episode at least. OK, so for those who don't
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really know, man's has kind of had a bit of a glow up in the
last year, year and a half. But also, like, specifically in
like the last three months, I feel like you've been very,
like, focused on the gym. Yeah.
How are you kind of like keepingmotivated?
How? Am I keeping motivated?
I think one of my coping mechanisms is if there's like a
(24:05):
shift in life or something, I just keep doing what I keep
doing. Yeah.
So the last three months I've continued to go to the gym
normally. Yeah, You know, every morning I
still go as if I had a job. Two hours with your booty
clenched. Two hours with my booty clenched
doing doing doing the the the squats, the sumo squats, the Rd.
(24:30):
LS. I'm trying to get a bigger
booty. That's not happening.
It's a bit of a stroke bust, butI think I continue to just go to
the gym, living my life normallyas if I wasn't laid off.
And then during the time that I would be working, I'd just sit
there and look for jobs. Yeah, that's what I've
literally, I've been doing. And it's except for the last
(24:53):
like week where I've kind of just like where hit me.
Yeah. And I kind of sort of just just
kind of been like, Oh yeah. And I think don't want to go
like yesterday I didn't even go to the gym very like.
Out of character. Very out of character and I've
got got a few text messages somesome people.
Will you have your office? Yeah.
(25:15):
And yeah, they call my office atthe gym.
The office is empty. It is.
Apparently when I'm not there, no one sits there.
Everyone's like he's definitely coming and he's going to kick me
out if. He's not, but yeah, I just
continue to do what I do, yeah. Like go to the gym, look for
jobs, live living normally, yeah.
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You've also, like, done a couplefitness competitions, which is
kind of crazy, yeah. Is that something that you've,
like, wanted to do before or wasit like a new thing?
Yeah. I mean like after I joined this
gym in the last like year and a half with the gym you go to too.
Yeah, I know. I'm talking like I don't.
Go there, but I do. But I don't compete.
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I've dropped like 30 lbs going there.
I think this is the best shape I've been in my entire life.
And a fitness competition came up in February, and I partnered
with a great partner that I love, Angela.
Angela. She's a great friend.
That's probably one of the only names you'll hear me say.
Yeah. Literally, we love Angela.
But like, did a fitness competition with her and then
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and 18 other people in February in Las Vegas, which was fun, and
then did another fitness competition what, like 3 weeks
ago? Yeah, like a group of like 12
people. I've always wanted to do
something like that. I just never thought I was in
shape of doing something like that.
But I did it and it was amazing.And I want to continue to do
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that. And I think it's a good release.
I think everything that's happened, this competition that
I did was a good, I think for me, it filled a space that I was
missing. Does that make any sense?
Yeah. Yeah, it's like you have
something to like do every day. Look forward.
To that, yeah, yeah. It like gives you a sense of
(27:00):
maybe stability when you're. Feeling stable?
Yeah, I guess. Speaking of instability, you
kind of like on the outside, I guess, like seem like you have
it like mostly together. So like where's the crazy
hiding? Like what's going on on the
inside? What do you mean?
(27:21):
Where's the crazy hiding? I think you have to know me
really well. I typically have everything
pretty buttoned up, buttoned up and put together.
Yeah, that's my life in general.I think a lot of people, you
know, even friends that I've metat the gym, they're like, you're
so like put together, like, you know, no one sees me crack,
(27:42):
right? Do you feel like you're cracking
the last? Couple weeks I've definitely
been cracking like the crack is wide open, not the crack that I
want to be wide open, wide open,but like it's definitely like
something that I, I don't like having things written on my face
(28:02):
when it comes to certain. Things we call that
vulnerability. 100% I think I'm vulnerable with certain people,
yeah, but with most people I'm not.
Yeah. And I think there are a lot of
people out there that don't knowme really well.
Yeah. Or how I'm actually feeling.
I think because I've learned from my past, but that's why I
(28:24):
kind of like come across having it all put together.
Yeah. Do you feel like you're learning
maybe something new about yourself in this time that like
you're learning to let some people in?
Or are you like feeling more firm in your your ways?
I think there's always going to be that thing where, like, I
(28:44):
don't want to let everyone in. Yeah, because I've been burned
in the past and I've been hurt in the past.
Also, I listen to Israel. Stop telling everyone
everything. Don't, don't let everyone in.
It's like OK. I think I made him nervous.
I needed a refill. OK, switching gears a little
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bit, you recently turned 40. We're entering a new era.
Taylor Swift. What's that been like?
I mean you've been 40 for like 3months but as you like to say
your birthday is next next week and we need to be so literally.
The day after my birthday, I'm like my birthday's in 354 days,
guys, what are we going to do? The type of person I am I think.
(29:32):
What was the question? Like, how has it been just I
think it's entering a new decade.
I think it's been great. I think, listen, do I feel 40?
No. Do I look 40?
No, I don't think I do. Thank you, Botox.
I mean, I was laid off when I was 40.
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So it's definitely not what you were expecting.
Not was that not definitely not what I was expecting.
You know, I'm happy being 40. I think it's a definitely a new
decade. I think 40 is where, you know,
when you're in your 20s, you're partying.
Yeah. When you're in your 30s, you're
trying to find out who you are, right?
And partying, right? And in 40, you know who you are.
(30:19):
I feel. And I think I know my purpose in
life. I think I know what I want to do
next while partying. While also being out.
Yeah, there's only one being out.
I just feel like a geriatric millennial.
They feel like true knees are cracking, shoulders popping,
back is hurting. But we're still there.
(30:40):
But I'm still twerking on the dance.
Floor but I feel. Great.
Like I feel great being 40 and Ithink it's, you know, there's a
reason why things happen. Maybe something happened when I
turned 40 and we'll we'll just go from there.
Do you feel like there's something you want to like,
leave behind in your 30s or likea chapter you want to close
there? I think more in my 40s, I want
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people who are going to be there, true friendships.
You know there are going to be friends that come in, come in
and go out of your life. I think in your 40s you know who
your friends are, you know who your family is, obviously right.
1. Would hope, one would hope, if
not, hey Daddy. But I think rather than leaving
(31:25):
things behind, I think it's moreof having that solid foundation
of people around you. I think having a solid
foundation of people around you who are going to support you.
People aren't, who aren't, who aren't going to talk down to
you. People aren't going to, who
aren't going to be jealous of who you are.
(31:46):
And people who are going to helpyou grow.
Yeah, I think that's what I'm looking most forward to.
And if they're not there, then goodbye.
We're leaving them in the past. We're leaving them in the past.
We're saying goodbye. To be so mean.
All right, you've made it. You're on your last question.
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What's something that you hope to achieve in this next era of
yours? Next era of mine stability.
Mentally. Emotionally.
The last year I think something I hope to achieve is to continue
to inspire people. You know, that me being LED off,
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there's a lot of us that are outthere.
You know, I'm hoping this podcast inspires people to
continue to keep doing what they're doing and what they're
what they're meant to do. What about like you in
particular? Like what do you want for
yourself? I think for me, it's again, like
knowing who I'm worth, knowing what I'm worth.
(32:53):
Yeah. And like, I'm not taught, like
my worth isn't tied to my output, right.
I think that's what am I blanking on this question.
What do you want to achieve? Like what do you want in your
for when you're 50 looking back on your 40s?
Like what is it that you want tobe like?
I fucking did that. Whether it was like the merch
(33:16):
that we're going to make the tour.
OK, so we're going to do a little bit of rapid fire shit
just so that people can like really understand.
But they're light hearted. So it's a quickie.
It's a little bit of a quickie. It's only like 10 questions.
I like a 10. All right, we'll start easy.
(33:36):
Busty with 10. A favorite gym class.
A conditioning one. Conditioning.
Yeah. What about the strength girlies?
I like strength, but strength isa little hard and my shoulder's
been like fucked up. It is a little hard and it's
like do like a rap and like waitlike 10 minutes before the next
(33:59):
one. Like I no, I just want to keep
going like. Sweat.
Let's just do it. I like getting sweaty just.
Get it over. With yeah, get it over with.
Like a bad hookup. All right, when was the last
time you cried? Probably yesterday in my pillow
before I woke up with my dog. How are you crying?
Asleep. No, I was waking up OK.
(34:20):
I didn't want to get out of bed.Favorite snack?
Me. Myself and not, I'm just
kidding, anything sweet like me.OK, Taylor Swift song.
(34:40):
That's a tough one. Favorite Taylor Swift song.
You might agree with me on this one.
Out of the Woods, Yeah, is one of them.
All right, favorite snack? I already asked that you
literally. Just asked me that.
Favorite drink? Favorite.
Drink old fashioned. Oh, that's a little surprising.
(35:03):
Wait but alcohol drink or like normal?
That's what came to your mind. This is Rapid Fire favorite
trainer. Favorite trainer?
See the 5th. That's not part of the the game
here. They're all good.
I like all of them. They all are different.
They're all unique. They all.
(35:24):
Push my children equally. Yeah, for different reasons.
For different reasons. We do love all of them.
We do. Yeah.
They're great, yeah. I like all of them and they've
all pushed me in a way that I want to be pushed.
Yeah, I. Think they're all great?
Fine, fair. Who's your favorite gay?
(35:48):
Favorite gay? Yeah.
Do you have a mirror? Obviously it's me.
Oh my. God, you could have said Israel.
Oh yeah, you're gay too. Last question Most important
favorite sex position Missionary.
(36:10):
Shocking. I don't want to look that way.
What's Israel's face look like? Straight as opposed to gay.
As opposed to gay, I would say definitely say missionary
because I don't know. Many others.
Yeah, looking in the eyes is different than like, being like.
(36:33):
Not looking in the soul, that was sweet.
What a good way to end it. What missionaries?
This was fun. This was great.
Thank you for answering all of my questions my God and I will
not be doing this in. Reverse.
Yeah, you will. Trust me.
I know. That was like a lot of feelings
(36:55):
for someone who hasn't fully processed 2020, three, 2023,
right? 2023. 2023 So first and
foremost, a huge shout out to you for finally flipping the
script and making me answers questions that I've been
dodging. That was fun.
That was a lot of fun. If you loved her, and let's be
(37:17):
real, you might have. You might not have.
Definitely did. She'll be back.
And if you're wondering what's next, we're going to be talking
to someone who traded Slack messages for squats and pivoted
from the tech life to the gym life.
It's giving career plot twists. It's giving glutes and growth,
(37:39):
unlike my glutes that are growing the opposite way.
And honestly, I might just have to join a boot camp by the end
of it. After we speak to after we speak
to this person because they're just an incredible, inspiring,
funny individual. We're so excited, so excited.
Until then, hydrate or don't hydrate.
(38:00):
Cheers journal. And for the love of severance,
don't check LinkedIn after 10 PMI.
Don't. I I've been doing it, but if you
have a workplace Horror Story that belongs in a teams teams
thread. I was going to say Slack because
we know a lot of people use Slack.
(38:22):
Do you have a friendship falloutthat's going to need its own PTO
request? I'm going to need some unlimited
PTO fan or a situation ship thatended like a performance review.
DM me at Clockton check dot pod on Instagram or e-mail me at
clocktoncheck.pod@gmail.com and I might just read it on air.
(38:43):
I know you have a lot of storiesso you can e-mail me too.
I want to know everything so tell me everything and if you
want to stay anonymous we can totally make that happen.
I have fake names locked and loaded.
Everyone can be, but if this episode made you laugh, cry, or
spiral in public, send it to someone who's been ghosted by
(39:05):
both a recruiter and or a Hinge match or a Grinder hookup.
It happens to everyone, yeah. You can follow me on all my
socials, I'll drop it in the bio.
More chaos cocktails, recipes and questionable career advice.
But subscribe, rate and leave a review because I'm going to tell
you something. Being unemployed is expensive
(39:26):
and I'm trying to become someonetaxed by and until next time,
clock out, log off and spiral responsibly.
Cheers. Don't drink and drive.
Thanks for watching, Bye bye.
Hi, everyone, welcome back. You're listening to Clocked In
checked out. This is going to be where
corporate meets chaos, burnout gets a mic, and royal dolphin
gets dragged again. I'm Joseph Singh, your host for
most of this episode, your unfiltered bestie, and this week
your interview subject because let's get to know me a little
(00:21):
bit better before we dive into every week's episode.
That's right, we're flipping thescript.
And joining me today is someone who knows exactly what it's like
to watch me spiral both in teamsand honestly in personal life.
My former Co worker and current chaos companion Hana can't
(00:44):
pronounce her last name. Sheik, I think.
I think it's something along there.
She's taking the mic and asking me the questions that I usually
like to dodge in therapy and keeping it really real, which I
think is really rude, to be honest, because I should be
asking you the questions. But it's also fair.
So yeah, things are about to getreal.
(01:05):
In this week's episode called Unemployed, Unfiltered and Still
Unhinged, we're gonna be really talking about what happens after
the layoff. So like life after layoff, when
the dust settles and what you'rereally left with is just a
resume and a mild identity crisis.
Because it's hit me quite hard the last couple of weeks.
(01:26):
This is going to be the part where no one glamorizes the
weird grief, the friendship shifts, the spiral snacks like
me, the healing and the hustling.
And we're going to be doing it with a drink in one hand.
So Speaking of today's drink, today's cocktail is called the
Spiral Spritz. Cheers.
(01:46):
This is a little bit of apparel.I can't even say.
Aperol. Aperol, sparkling wine, lemon
soda, and a splash of emotionally instability.
What should you say? I can't even say.
Splash right a. Splash A.
Splash of emotional instability because let's just be real, it's
(02:08):
what you'd serve if your quarterlife crisis had bubbles.
For me, probably midlife becauselike would have been ages ago.
About 15 years. So let's get into it.
So before Hana, before you take it away, I do have a little
disclaimer after last week's episode.
(02:30):
I've got a lot of DMS and a lot of text messages asking if I was
single again even though I shot the episode with my wedding ring
on. Where is it?
It's right here. It's on.
It's because of all like the innuendos I was mentioning and
spoiler, I'm not Israel and I are still very much together.
(02:52):
In fact, he was actually behind the screen as we were filming.
Say hi, Israel, hello. He's literally right here.
So basically I'm just unhinged on air or maybe also in like
real life maybe or this is just who I.
Am I think a little. Not at all.
Probably what got me in trouble quite a bit in life.
Probably. Well, mostly.
(03:14):
But let's get the party started.Are you ready, Hannah?
No. I need to like, Chuck this whole
thing down. You're my foundation, OK?
I'm not sweating, right? Girl, please.
It's Penty. Mine too.
Oh, I have the blur tent. I don't have the blur tent.
I don't know which one I have. I should have signed my own.
You don't have enough money to have a lawyer currently.
(03:37):
Where's my lawyer? Oh, you have a?
Lawyer world dating you do have a.
Lawyer. Oh, no.
We love her. I'm getting in trouble.
All right. Are you ready?
Are you ready for it? Time, time, time.
OK, I have my questions written on these cue cards, but I'm
wondering what you have on your cue cards.
(04:03):
My cue cards have affirmations that noodle Rd. because since
you're interviewing me, mine says you're doing great.
Sweetie, give the people what they want you, which is me, not
you, and you're a star. I think they want us both.
No, I think it needs to be closer to your mic.
Clearly you've never shot a video before.
(04:23):
I haven't. We're doing it OK.
All right, let's do this. All right.
Before we get into your layoff, I have a couple questions just
about you. What?
You ready? Yeah.
OK. What led you to your last job?
How'd you get there? What led me to my last job and
how did I get there? Well, I mean, I've been in
beauty quite for a very long time.
(04:43):
I've done skin care. I love skin care.
I've done the whole makeup thing, you know, when I was with
another beauty brand within the same company, I've done fashion
which is in my background and you feel like the only thing in
beauty that I had not done was hair.
But not only that, also because I lack hair.
(05:04):
I know when we lived in New York, I had like a full blown
Mohawk and everything, but like little by little my hair was
like gone. So when I saw the opportunity to
work with another beauty world, you know, that did hair, I
jumped on the opportunity because I wanted to learn more
about it, understand what hair was and like how it works
because it is very different than like skin care, but also
(05:26):
similar at the same time. But it's a different beast.
I feel it's a different set of knowledge that you needed.
And not only that, but it was also a product marketing
position and education that I really wanted.
I wanted to learn how to do pipeline product innovation and
I took that and then I ran with it.
(05:48):
Yeah. Speaking of that, your job kind
of like shifted over the time that you were there.
Shifted. Shifted.
Into many different lanes. Do you want to do you want to
talk about that a little more? Yeah.
You know, I'm very grateful for the position that I had, to be
honest, and I got to learn a lot.
(06:09):
I think in most companies you get hired to do something in one
role, right? The beauty in this company, no
pun intended, literally no pun intended, was I was able to be
in my position but also learn other aspects of it.
And that's what really excited me about it.
I was able to learn a little bitof like sales, a little bit of
PRA, little bit of like influencing, a little bit of
(06:32):
social media, you know? And that's what I that's one
thing I really enjoyed about it.You got to do a little bit of
everything at times. Was it overwhelming?
Yeah, it was. Yeah, when we were launching and
we were. Launching anything, it was just,
you know, we, we all had a say in everything and that's what I
liked about it and we all dippedour hands in everything, right.
(06:57):
So you got to experience what other verticals were doing
right. I think in most companies that
they're so structured that you don't get that.
I want to say beauty again, beauty of having it.
So it did my my role did shift quite a bit and I did enjoy the
shift that came with it. Yeah.
(07:17):
What do you think? It was like your favorite part.
My favorite? Part of everything.
The creative aspect of it, and that's in terms of what I did in
product marketing and education.Being creative, being open,
looking at trends, looking at like what's coming out.
I've always believed in like, you know, whatever brand I work
for, I want to be like a trend setter versus a trend follower.
(07:38):
Yeah. And you pushed that and we we.
We did initially we did because we did work together on it.
We pushed that envelope quite fucking hard, you know?
Yeah. We ran out of swipes on fucking
Hinge, you know, But we pushed that envelope really hard.
And what was the question? What was your favorite part?
(08:02):
I think the creative aspect, being able to like bring product
and innovation, I think that's the exciting part.
It's so when you're bringing something to like the beauty
world, right? It's also something like that
was exciting. Like you've got to look at the
newest and coolest ingredients, like the newest products and
like being like, oh, this product would be really cool.
(08:23):
I think that's what made it really exciting.
I was kind of hoping you would say your favorite part was
working with your favorite ex Coworker, me.
I mean, that was also fun too, but let's really talk about,
(08:44):
since I'm nine, my cue card. Speaking of you, you should tell
the audience on what you thoughtof me.
This is not about me. Oh, oh, but it is.
If we're gonna go there, we should really talk about what
you thought of me when you firstwere exposed to who I was.
So I met Joseph. So we met because we had a photo
(09:08):
shoot planned or the team had a photo shoot planned and you had
just joined and. Really like a month ago.
We had a very last minute switchup where product needed to get
taken to. Was it Texas?
Where was it? OK.
And I I. Flew there for like two hours.
(09:29):
Yeah. And I graciously declined the
offer to take the product myself.
And Joseph volunteered. I sure did.
And we what? We had to meet up in Emeryville.
Yeah. So I was at the office.
I was zooming in on Joseph's photo because I didn't know what
(09:50):
he looked like. And when I saw him, I was like,
oh, oh, this man looks like he'sjust like a total fuck boy.
I'm not going to like him at all.
This is not going to go well. And then I met him and I was
like, oh. He's gay.
He's a. Gay man, I'm completely wrong
(10:11):
and that's where a beautiful. Friend of a douche Blossom.
And that's where it blossomed. It was great.
It was amazing. I love to call Joseph corporate
Joseph when he turns it on, and he definitely taught me a lot in
my time with him there. Well.
Thank you. That's really nice of.
You that's Yeah sweetie, that's what talking about your favorite
(10:33):
Co worker means no. But she's not here.
Just kidding, all right? Anyway, I think everyone is
tired of hearing about you, so maybe let's switch into talking
about you getting laid off. Why don't you kind of walk me
through the day? I know you kind of talked about
(10:53):
like finding out and like the lead up to it, but like what
happened? Well in the last episode I might
have left out a few details about me being laid off, but
when I was laid off I had one ofmy good friends sitting right
next to me when it happened. And when I shut my computer off,
she immediately looked at me andshe was like what's going on?
(11:14):
And I told her, I'm like, I justlost my job Immediately.
This woman dropped everything. She took me for a walk.
She took me out to lunch. To the bar she.
Took me to the bar, literally took me to the bar.
She was there for me the minute it happened and she has been
(11:37):
there for me since it has happened, you know.
But I think I went to like a fewbars that day.
So I went to a bar that day after I got laid off, and I
think you and I went to yoga. We went to Yoga Sculpt, I had
work and then we went to Yoga Sculpt after.
(11:59):
Yeah, we went to yoga sculpt after it happened and we did
yoga sculpt pretty buzzed. I did yoga sculpt pretty buzzed.
You didn't. You were just like looking at.
Me. I was like, Joseph, are you
good? I was.
Great. I was feeling great.
I was downward dogging. You were singing along to the
songs. For sure.
(12:21):
But literally that's what happened.
And then after that, we got ready and I think we went to
another bar, you and I, where wegot like trashed a little bit.
Yeah. So that's what that day kind of
was like. Yeah, it was a good day.
Maybe with alcohol it wasn't a great day.
(12:42):
It was a. *. These affirmations are really
getting used. To that, they're really helping
me right now. Was there a moment like maybe
like a week later, whenever later that it like truly sunk in
for you? I don't think it's sunk in until
about 10 weeks later. So I think about two weeks
(13:03):
later, No, two weeks ago, it sunk in.
OK, I think immediately, like I mentioned in my last episode, I
went immediately into survival mode.
Yeah, looking for a job, reaching out to my network,
reaching out to my contacts on getting a job, seeing if there's
anything out there just like networking, right?
Like, I have a pretty amazing network, right?
(13:23):
And amazing friends in the industry, both like tech and
beauty, right? But it didn't hit me until, I
want to say, 2 weeks ago. What changed?
I think just not having like that steady income, not being
able to like work. I like working.
(13:45):
I like doing things, you know, Ilike building brands.
I like being creative. And I think that's why this
podcast was kind of born from it.
But it hit me probably like 2 weeks ago and about a week ago,
a couple of people noticed like a shift in like my behavior.
I'm usually very like, happy, very go lucky, right?
(14:06):
Like, and anything that like breaks me or cracks me, I
typically don't like to show it,you know that.
Yeah. And I think a lot of people at
the gym know that. Yeah.
And like, my friends know that, right.
I think there's only a few people, you know, I can count
with one hand who I have been talking to and kind of venting
(14:26):
to about it on like a daily and regular basis.
I think with the market out there and people being laid off,
you know, it just puts more people in the pool.
Yeah. And that's been like scary, you
know, And I think that's what's,that's what those are the things
(14:46):
that start to get me a little bit scared, right?
Like it's been 3 months, literally 3 months.
Yeah. I can't believe it's been.
Three months. I know it like flew.
By, by, yeah. But there's been things that
I've been doing to kind of keep keep that keep me going.
But it's been. You cry.
(15:09):
This is a safe space. I think, I just think it's been,
it's been hard. It's been difficult.
Yeah. I don't want to be that person
that people, people are like, oh, Joseph's like bothering me
for this. Joseph's bothering me for that.
I don't like to rely on. Yeah, you know that.
Yeah. I'm an Aquarius.
I will hold that couch myself ifI need to take it out.
No one has to help me, right. But I think when time comes, if
(15:35):
you need help, ask for it. In the last couple of weeks,
I've, I've been really asking for help.
Yeah. Because I don't know what's
going to happen, right? You, you can't predict the
future. You know, everyone out there is
like, you have such an amazing background, you'll get a job.
You don't know that. Yeah, yeah.
You don't know that. It's fair.
Yeah. You kind of mentioned you have
(15:57):
like a wide network, but we've talked about it.
You haven't like posted on LinkedIn or you didn't feel like
comfortable posting about it on LinkedIn.
Posting on LinkedIn for like a while, right?
It was this week, wasn't it? Last week.
OK, Yeah. I was nervous to post on
LinkedIn. Yeah, you can tell me.
(16:18):
I've been getting uncomfortable talking about it.
I was a little nervous to post on LinkedIn because I didn't
know what people were going to think.
I think The thing is you have this fear of kind of being
vulnerable, especially on like LinkedIn, I think, right?
Like they're like, don't say open to work.
Yeah, right. Because it doesn't look good,
(16:39):
right? Don't say like you got laid off
or you're like looking for a job, right?
I think 3 months into it, I finally decided just to post it
because I needed help. Yeah, and I need help, right?
Like, I'm looking actively looking for a job.
Active, active, actively seekingfor a job.
(17:00):
And to be honest, I realized there's nothing wrong with it.
Yeah, you got laid off. Post about it.
Let people know. Yeah, hey, this happened to me.
No bad intentions, but I need tosee what else is out there.
Like help me, right. And it gained some amazing
(17:21):
things. To be honest, I, it took, it
took a lot in me to post it because I was also embarrassed
of what people were going to think.
I didn't want people to be like,oh, well, he got like laid off.
Let's not hire him. I mean, there might be some
people that do that. Right.
Sure. Spot and he posted about it.
Right, there's always going to be a hater.
(17:41):
There's always going to be a hater.
I feel like you're hating me right now because I'm probably
my favorite Co worker. So I'm asking that first thing
question. But I don't think there's any
shame in doing that. Yeah.
Of saying, like open to work or saying anything like that.
Like I just. I think it's fine if you.
I should. I feel like I should have posted
sooner. Yeah.
(18:01):
You know, I reached out to a lotof people after I got laid off.
But I feel like posting on LinkedIn, it's like, it's like,
listen, people put a lot of things out on social media.
Yeah, they do, right. But at the same time, it's like
people only put out the positiveshit on social media.
For sure. Right.
Yeah. It's like you're putting out
(18:22):
your favorite picture on like a fucking dating app.
Look at me. Look how cute I am.
But you know, deep down inside you got issues.
Yeah, right. We all do.
We all. Do right?
I can see through the picture. I see you bitch, right?
But at the same time it's like 3months in, it hit me.
I'm out there looking actively. So I just said fuck it.
(18:44):
Yeah, host it. Yeah.
Do you feel like you were expecting somebody to reach out
to you that like didn't reach out to you or kind of vice
versa, like throughout the. Whole process?
You mean after my layoff? Yeah, like after I posted.
Only just like after your layoffin general.
Yeah, I think I was very surprised.
Yeah. You know, I think a lot of
people did reach out to me within like the first couple of
(19:07):
days, right? Some people shocked me,
actually. The ones who like reached out,
like actually surprised me, but I thought other people would
reach out that that didn't, you know, And that's OK.
Like I have no ill will towards anyone and that's OK.
That's just them. Maybe, you know, seeing it from
their perspective. Maybe they just don't know how
(19:28):
to process it or anything. But there were some some things
I was like surprised by. Anything you'd want to share?
Not yet. The tea is too hot the.
Tea is too hot. I'm sweating already, all right?
You want a sip? Yeah, I was going to.
Say I need like a gallon of thisshit.
(19:49):
OK, we can lighten it up a little bit.
Lighten up with what? In like the spiral post like
layoff and you thinking about what like your next job would
be. Has there been like a job that
came up for you that you were like fuck it, I'll just do X?
(20:12):
Like me like like. Be on only fans.
Israel, are we going to go on only fans?
He said. No, but you're the one who said
yeah initially. No, I'm not not going to go that
extreme. I mean, but like something else?
Like what? I don't know anything.
(20:34):
No, I haven't thought about that.
Oh, she only wants to stay in corporate, not me catching you
with a light hearted question. I don't.
Is there anything else I wanted to do beyond like corporate
basic? Yeah.
I mean started this podcast. Yeah.
Is that a safe answer? I guess, yeah, like.
Where like go on a dating app orsomething?
(20:55):
No, to make money. You're not going to make money
on a dating app. You're just going to lose money
there, unfortunately. Unless it's a free subscription.
Unless it's only feat. We can do only feet, Israel.
We can do only feet. What do you think he's.
(21:15):
He's ignoring. You.
That's a nap. Probably sleeping.
He's probably sleeping. OK, switching gears a little
bit, everyone knows that you canbe, obviously you're going
through a rough time, but you can be a little bit dramatic on
occasion. What is the most dramatic text
message you've sent in? Like the last week, you can look
(21:36):
at your phone. What's the most dramatic?
I can't. My phone's still here.
What's the most dramatic text message that I've sent in the
last week? Yeah, dramatic.
He think. He thinks he's not dramatic,
just so that everyone knows. Yeah, you're also very dramatic
do I'm going to read your text messages next.
Time. No, it's OK, I thought.
(21:58):
What's the most dramatic text message that I've sent in the
last? I don't know, probably because I
wanted to talk to someone about some situations that happened.
I don't know, like the most dramatic.
He's not ready to share. I'm not.
Maybe that's a whole episode. Maybe.
(22:19):
The most dramatic text messages that you've.
Ever sent? No, everyone, because you've
sent me some damn good dramatic.That's pretty true.
That's probably true. Can you talk about, like, what's
the most dramatic thing you've done in the last three months?
(22:40):
Probably booked a last minute trip to Mexico within 12 hours
and left with a couple of my friends.
That was pretty dramatic. It was.
Spontaneous. It was like a Tuesday.
Yeah, it literally. I booked it on a Tuesday and
left on a Wednesday morning. She said goodbye, said bye and
then it hit me after I came back.
(23:01):
You were like, what did I do? And like the layoff, but I would
say that would be the most dramatic thing I probably done,
if that's even considered. Dramatic.
That's not the most dramatic, but I think that passes, that's
a very dramatic for you thing todo because you're a bit of a.
(23:21):
Planner myself and slamming my face into a pillow.
Yeah, that might be a little dramatic.
All right, we're gonna switch gears.
I think we're done looking up there.
I think we're done with your layoff, right?
Yeah, we don't want to talk about your layoff anymore, but
that's all right. I think we're kind of all right
for this episode at least. OK, so for those who don't
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really know, man's has kind of had a bit of a glow up in the
last year, year and a half. But also, like, specifically in
like the last three months, I feel like you've been very,
like, focused on the gym. Yeah.
How are you kind of like keepingmotivated?
How? Am I keeping motivated?
I think one of my coping mechanisms is if there's like a
(24:05):
shift in life or something, I just keep doing what I keep
doing. Yeah.
So the last three months I've continued to go to the gym
normally. Yeah, You know, every morning I
still go as if I had a job. Two hours with your booty
clenched. Two hours with my booty clenched
doing doing doing the the the squats, the sumo squats, the Rd.
(24:30):
LS. I'm trying to get a bigger
booty. That's not happening.
It's a bit of a stroke bust, butI think I continue to just go to
the gym, living my life normallyas if I wasn't laid off.
And then during the time that I would be working, I'd just sit
there and look for jobs. Yeah, that's what I've
literally, I've been doing. And it's except for the last
(24:53):
like week where I've kind of just like where hit me.
Yeah. And I kind of sort of just just
kind of been like, Oh yeah. And I think don't want to go
like yesterday I didn't even go to the gym very like.
Out of character. Very out of character and I've
got got a few text messages somesome people.
Will you have your office? Yeah.
(25:15):
And yeah, they call my office atthe gym.
The office is empty. It is.
Apparently when I'm not there, no one sits there.
Everyone's like he's definitely coming and he's going to kick me
out if. He's not, but yeah, I just
continue to do what I do, yeah. Like go to the gym, look for
jobs, live living normally, yeah.
(25:37):
You've also, like, done a couplefitness competitions, which is
kind of crazy, yeah. Is that something that you've,
like, wanted to do before or wasit like a new thing?
Yeah. I mean like after I joined this
gym in the last like year and a half with the gym you go to too.
Yeah, I know. I'm talking like I don't.
Go there, but I do. But I don't compete.
(25:57):
I've dropped like 30 lbs going there.
I think this is the best shape I've been in my entire life.
And a fitness competition came up in February, and I partnered
with a great partner that I love, Angela.
Angela. She's a great friend.
That's probably one of the only names you'll hear me say.
Yeah. Literally, we love Angela.
But like, did a fitness competition with her and then
(26:19):
and 18 other people in February in Las Vegas, which was fun, and
then did another fitness competition what, like 3 weeks
ago? Yeah, like a group of like 12
people. I've always wanted to do
something like that. I just never thought I was in
shape of doing something like that.
But I did it and it was amazing.And I want to continue to do
(26:40):
that. And I think it's a good release.
I think everything that's happened, this competition that
I did was a good, I think for me, it filled a space that I was
missing. Does that make any sense?
Yeah. Yeah, it's like you have
something to like do every day. Look forward.
To that, yeah, yeah. It like gives you a sense of
(27:00):
maybe stability when you're. Feeling stable?
Yeah, I guess. Speaking of instability, you
kind of like on the outside, I guess, like seem like you have
it like mostly together. So like where's the crazy
hiding? Like what's going on on the
inside? What do you mean?
(27:21):
Where's the crazy hiding? I think you have to know me
really well. I typically have everything
pretty buttoned up, buttoned up and put together.
Yeah, that's my life in general.I think a lot of people, you
know, even friends that I've metat the gym, they're like, you're
so like put together, like, you know, no one sees me crack,
(27:42):
right? Do you feel like you're cracking
the last? Couple weeks I've definitely
been cracking like the crack is wide open, not the crack that I
want to be wide open, wide open,but like it's definitely like
something that I, I don't like having things written on my face
(28:02):
when it comes to certain. Things we call that
vulnerability. 100% I think I'm vulnerable with certain people,
yeah, but with most people I'm not.
Yeah. And I think there are a lot of
people out there that don't knowme really well.
Yeah. Or how I'm actually feeling.
I think because I've learned from my past, but that's why I
(28:24):
kind of like come across having it all put together.
Yeah. Do you feel like you're learning
maybe something new about yourself in this time that like
you're learning to let some people in?
Or are you like feeling more firm in your your ways?
I think there's always going to be that thing where, like, I
(28:44):
don't want to let everyone in. Yeah, because I've been burned
in the past and I've been hurt in the past.
Also, I listen to Israel. Stop telling everyone
everything. Don't, don't let everyone in.
It's like OK. I think I made him nervous.
I needed a refill. OK, switching gears a little
(29:08):
bit, you recently turned 40. We're entering a new era.
Taylor Swift. What's that been like?
I mean you've been 40 for like 3months but as you like to say
your birthday is next next week and we need to be so literally.
The day after my birthday, I'm like my birthday's in 354 days,
guys, what are we going to do? The type of person I am I think.
(29:32):
What was the question? Like, how has it been just I
think it's entering a new decade.
I think it's been great. I think, listen, do I feel 40?
No. Do I look 40?
No, I don't think I do. Thank you, Botox.
I mean, I was laid off when I was 40.
(29:57):
So it's definitely not what you were expecting.
Not was that not definitely not what I was expecting.
You know, I'm happy being 40. I think it's a definitely a new
decade. I think 40 is where, you know,
when you're in your 20s, you're partying.
Yeah. When you're in your 30s, you're
trying to find out who you are, right?
And partying, right? And in 40, you know who you are.
(30:19):
I feel. And I think I know my purpose in
life. I think I know what I want to do
next while partying. While also being out.
Yeah, there's only one being out.
I just feel like a geriatric millennial.
They feel like true knees are cracking, shoulders popping,
back is hurting. But we're still there.
(30:40):
But I'm still twerking on the dance.
Floor but I feel. Great.
Like I feel great being 40 and Ithink it's, you know, there's a
reason why things happen. Maybe something happened when I
turned 40 and we'll we'll just go from there.
Do you feel like there's something you want to like,
leave behind in your 30s or likea chapter you want to close
there? I think more in my 40s, I want
(31:02):
people who are going to be there, true friendships.
You know there are going to be friends that come in, come in
and go out of your life. I think in your 40s you know who
your friends are, you know who your family is, obviously right.
1. Would hope, one would hope, if
not, hey Daddy. But I think rather than leaving
(31:25):
things behind, I think it's moreof having that solid foundation
of people around you. I think having a solid
foundation of people around you who are going to support you.
People aren't, who aren't, who aren't going to talk down to
you. People aren't going to, who
aren't going to be jealous of who you are.
(31:46):
And people who are going to helpyou grow.
Yeah, I think that's what I'm looking most forward to.
And if they're not there, then goodbye.
We're leaving them in the past. We're leaving them in the past.
We're saying goodbye. To be so mean.
All right, you've made it. You're on your last question.
(32:09):
What's something that you hope to achieve in this next era of
yours? Next era of mine stability.
Mentally. Emotionally.
The last year I think something I hope to achieve is to continue
to inspire people. You know, that me being LED off,
(32:33):
there's a lot of us that are outthere.
You know, I'm hoping this podcast inspires people to
continue to keep doing what they're doing and what they're
what they're meant to do. What about like you in
particular? Like what do you want for
yourself? I think for me, it's again, like
knowing who I'm worth, knowing what I'm worth.
(32:53):
Yeah. And like, I'm not taught, like
my worth isn't tied to my output, right.
I think that's what am I blanking on this question.
What do you want to achieve? Like what do you want in your
for when you're 50 looking back on your 40s?
Like what is it that you want tobe like?
I fucking did that. Whether it was like the merch
(33:16):
that we're going to make the tour.
OK, so we're going to do a little bit of rapid fire shit
just so that people can like really understand.
But they're light hearted. So it's a quickie.
It's a little bit of a quickie. It's only like 10 questions.
I like a 10. All right, we'll start easy.
(33:36):
Busty with 10. A favorite gym class.
A conditioning one. Conditioning.
Yeah. What about the strength girlies?
I like strength, but strength isa little hard and my shoulder's
been like fucked up. It is a little hard and it's
like do like a rap and like waitlike 10 minutes before the next
(33:59):
one. Like I no, I just want to keep
going like. Sweat.
Let's just do it. I like getting sweaty just.
Get it over. With yeah, get it over with.
Like a bad hookup. All right, when was the last
time you cried? Probably yesterday in my pillow
before I woke up with my dog. How are you crying?
Asleep. No, I was waking up OK.
(34:20):
I didn't want to get out of bed.Favorite snack?
Me. Myself and not, I'm just
kidding, anything sweet like me.OK, Taylor Swift song.
(34:40):
That's a tough one. Favorite Taylor Swift song.
You might agree with me on this one.
Out of the Woods, Yeah, is one of them.
All right, favorite snack? I already asked that you
literally. Just asked me that.
Favorite drink? Favorite.
Drink old fashioned. Oh, that's a little surprising.
(35:03):
Wait but alcohol drink or like normal?
That's what came to your mind. This is Rapid Fire favorite
trainer. Favorite trainer?
See the 5th. That's not part of the the game
here. They're all good.
I like all of them. They all are different.
They're all unique. They all.
(35:24):
Push my children equally. Yeah, for different reasons.
For different reasons. We do love all of them.
We do. Yeah.
They're great, yeah. I like all of them and they've
all pushed me in a way that I want to be pushed.
Yeah, I. Think they're all great?
Fine, fair. Who's your favorite gay?
(35:48):
Favorite gay? Yeah.
Do you have a mirror? Obviously it's me.
Oh my. God, you could have said Israel.
Oh yeah, you're gay too. Last question Most important
favorite sex position Missionary.
(36:10):
Shocking. I don't want to look that way.
What's Israel's face look like? Straight as opposed to gay.
As opposed to gay, I would say definitely say missionary
because I don't know. Many others.
Yeah, looking in the eyes is different than like, being like.
(36:33):
Not looking in the soul, that was sweet.
What a good way to end it. What missionaries?
This was fun. This was great.
Thank you for answering all of my questions my God and I will
not be doing this in. Reverse.
Yeah, you will. Trust me.
I know. That was like a lot of feelings
(36:55):
for someone who hasn't fully processed 2020, three, 2023,
right? 2023. 2023 So first and
foremost, a huge shout out to you for finally flipping the
script and making me answers questions that I've been
dodging. That was fun.
That was a lot of fun. If you loved her, and let's be
(37:17):
real, you might have. You might not have.
Definitely did. She'll be back.
And if you're wondering what's next, we're going to be talking
to someone who traded Slack messages for squats and pivoted
from the tech life to the gym life.
It's giving career plot twists. It's giving glutes and growth,
(37:39):
unlike my glutes that are growing the opposite way.
And honestly, I might just have to join a boot camp by the end
of it. After we speak to after we speak
to this person because they're just an incredible, inspiring,
funny individual. We're so excited, so excited.
Until then, hydrate or don't hydrate.
(38:00):
Cheers journal. And for the love of severance,
don't check LinkedIn after 10 PMI.
Don't. I I've been doing it, but if you
have a workplace Horror Story that belongs in a teams teams
thread. I was going to say Slack because
we know a lot of people use Slack.
(38:22):
Do you have a friendship falloutthat's going to need its own PTO
request? I'm going to need some unlimited
PTO fan or a situation ship thatended like a performance review.
DM me at Clockton check dot pod on Instagram or e-mail me at
clocktoncheck.pod@gmail.com and I might just read it on air.
(38:43):
I know you have a lot of storiesso you can e-mail me too.
I want to know everything so tell me everything and if you
want to stay anonymous we can totally make that happen.
I have fake names locked and loaded.
Everyone can be, but if this episode made you laugh, cry, or
spiral in public, send it to someone who's been ghosted by
(39:05):
both a recruiter and or a Hinge match or a Grinder hookup.
It happens to everyone, yeah. You can follow me on all my
socials, I'll drop it in the bio.
More chaos cocktails, recipes and questionable career advice.
But subscribe, rate and leave a review because I'm going to tell
you something. Being unemployed is expensive
(39:26):
and I'm trying to become someonetaxed by and until next time,
clock out, log off and spiral responsibly.
Cheers. Don't drink and drive.
Thanks for watching, Bye bye.
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