January 10, 2025 • 35 mins
Award-winning singer and songwriter Kathy Bee, affectionately known as the Dream Maker, graces us with her visionary spirit, aiming to bridge the world through music. Her ambitious project, "One Million Voices," is set for the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics, where she plans to unite a million voices in harmony for her song "Torch of Love," a tribute to universal unity. Kathy captivates us with her passion for teaching this song in schools and her creative vision of using coloring books to spread messages of peace and harmony, setting the stage for an inspiring worldwide movement.
As we journey through Kathy's life, we uncover her fascinating experiences on the road as an opening act for legends like Bob Hope and Crystal Gale. A chance meeting with Mary Stevenson leads us to the renowned poem "Footprints in the Sand," revealing a touching narrative of resilience and friendship. Kathy's heartfelt mission to honor Mary's legacy through storytelling unfolds, showcasing the profound impact of human connection, culminating in plans for a documentary and a special Mother's Day book honoring Mary's work.
Kathy's path is guided by spiritual insight and the influence of entrepreneur Arlan Hamilton, reinforcing her commitment to building a dream team. She invites listeners to join her free membership platform, Do the Dream Team, to foster collaboration and inspiration. With upcoming projects like the 2028 Olympics and a documentary celebrating Mary's legacy, Kathy encourages us all to embrace new beginnings, emphasizing the courage to connect and share our stories.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, I'm Coach Mickey and thank you for joining us,
and if this is your first timejoining us, come on in and make
yourself comfortable.
And for those of you that joinus on a regular basis, we are so
glad that you do and I'mexcited.
But I'm always excited when myguests are here.
But this woman is amazing.
I had an opportunity to meetwith her and her mission and
what she has done and who she isis just going to be so much fun
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today, so I'm excited to haveher.
So, without further ado, I'mgoing to tell you a little bit
about who she is and what she'sgoing to be presenting, and then
how you guys can jump in andalso help her with some of her
causes.
So this is Kathy B.
She is an award-winning singer,songwriter, producer and
visionary leader known as theDream Maker.
As the CEO of Touching LivesMultimedia Incorporated, and she
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is the founder of GrowingOnline Community, do the Dream
Team.
She empowers dreamers toachieve their big dreams.
Kathy is also an inspiringYouTube show, do the Dream TV,
where she motivates viewers toturn dreams into reality.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So I'm excited to have you Welcome, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Thank you for inviting me.
Well, I'm excited to have you,and it's not just these things
that you do, it's who you areand what you're doing, and we're
going to touch on some of thatbecause you have got submissions
that are pretty profound andand the one that I do want to
talk about is, uh, footprints inthe sand.
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We're going to cover that in alittle bit, so stay tuned.
But also, um, your, yourmillion, um, I don't want to
kathy, we'll let you talk aboutit, because I don't want to say
something wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's One Million Voices.
Thank you, one Million Voices.
It's a song for the Olympics2028 Olympics, because Los
Angeles is going to be hostingthe Olympics in 2028.
And France just got through.
They had the Olympics.
So what the whole thing is, Ilove the Olympics, love the
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whole idea of it.
And in 1984, I had anopportunity to go to the
Olympics in LA when it was outhere and I was pregnant with my
son and I had final tickets tothe diving event and he came
early, seven weeks early, and Ihad to sell my tickets.
So, and he came early, sevenweeks early, and I had to sell
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my tickets.
So since then I wrote a song.
I actually wrote a song afterthat happened about the Olympics
and it was called the Torch ofLove.
I love the idea of the Statueof Liberty and everything that
goes along with that, and nowit's going to combine.
We're going to have the peoplewho gave us the Statue of
Liberty and they're coming hereto hand us the torch.
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So that's the torch of love.
I want to teach it in schools.
We've got coloring books, justall kind of projects, because I
see us going to New York andFrance coming over that torch
and our singers a million voicesof people same place not the
same place, but same time, andall over the country singing the
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song the Torch of Love.
So I've got a quest.
It's a big deal to try to get amillion voices plus a Guinness
World Book of Records.
We can make that too.
That would be fantastic.
Technically I don't know howwe're going to do it, but I know
we can because there's choirsout there and people who would
love to get involved insomething that's about unity and
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peace and harmony.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I love it.
And one of the things thatyou're leaving out is that you
wrote this song.
Yes, yeah, you wrote this song,and that is amazing and that's
inspiring and the fact that it'sgoing to bring a lot of people
together.
And one of the things that youand I have talked about briefly
that I think a lot of people arenot aware of is that the Statue
of Liberty is a gift fromFrance.
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Yes, yeah, and I don't think alot of people know that.
You know, and I'm from New Yorkand I think there's a lot of
people that didn't even knowthat that live in New York, let
alone the rest of the country.
So to bring those twocollaborations together is
pretty inspiring.
It's actually very much a greatcombination, and the timing
plus the torch.
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So I know I'm going to put youon the spot because she's got.
I've heard you sing it andyou've got a lovely singing
voice and that's what you do.
Anyway, would you be willing toshare this song with us?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Sit back down, For the torch is a symbol of love.
Peace and kindness to share forpeople everywhere we bear the
torch of love I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Thank you, I put you on the spot.
I get you.
It's free to warm up a millionvoices.
Little baby, you know singingtoo but it's the lyrics, and
hearing people sing it allthroughout the country while
this torch is being brought backto LA would be absolutely
amazing.
And you're right, there's somany people that could get
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involved.
And, remember, you guys, we'regoing to have the links down
below where you can connect withKathy B, because I know this is
something you will want to takepart in and we've got plenty of
time, so this is a great timefor everybody to connect and be
able to take part and, of course, whatever I can do for you here
on the West Coast too, pleaselet me know and see what we can
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pull together for you.
You also have another questjourney that, every time I talk
about it, it just touches myheart, my soul, and this is
something that I was not awareof, and I'm going to let you
tell the story because this isgoing to touch all of you.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I mean, and for those of you that know the poem,
footprints in the Sand, this isjust going to just touch your
hearts, so'm just going to giveyou the the mic to share your
story, kathy well, when I, whenI first talked to you about it
and and when I first askedpeople if you've heard of the
poem, footprints in the sand andthey'll kind of scratch your
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head and they'll go, oh yeah,but you know the one where god's
carrying the people because youknow they he thought he had to
walk it alone and all theproblems.
And here God says that's when Icarried you.
And I loved that poem becauseI'm from a real small town in
Ohio and my mom gave me a copyof the poem, a little card size
copy, to go on tour.
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I was going on tour, leavingthe 500 people town and going on
tour nationwide.
We were going to be the openingact for Bob Hope, crystal Gale
and the Oak Ridge Boys.
We were in a group where wewere a 45-minute show, five
costume changes and we had toplay 16 different instruments.
Just in that show Kepteverybody.
We had them entertained becausewe knew one song for that
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instrument Yakety sax on thesacks.
But anyway.
So that's where we had truckstops, that's where we ate,
because the truckers know wherethe good food is, and I'll tell
you what.
Guys, when you are touring youcan't get sick, you can't afford
to be sick.
So you have to watch everythingbecause the show must go on.
So here we are at truck stopsand I'm seeing my footprints in
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the sand.
I'm pulling it out and there itis on the wall.
They're selling it everywhereand it says Author Unknown.
So okay, author Unknown.
I get to California years later,had my own group on the road
and recording and got airplayright with my first song
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recording and got hair playright with my first song.
And uh was in oklahoma where Iwas interviewed by um danny's
day and it was a lady thatinterviewed me and I'm trying to
come up with her name right now.
I'll think of it later.
I'm 70, I'm gonna reveal that,so sometimes we get those brain
fogs.
So anyway, I was on my way.
So I had an opportunity to cometo california and sing record
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with the steve miller band, hisgroup, their manager, the
financial manager.
We saw him in texas and he saidif you're ever here, don't ever
say that to somebody, if youever come out our way because I
will show up If you invite me.
I'm there, mickey, we will doit.
So I'm singing.
We got an opportunity to singat a place called the Palomino
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Wind.
That was in Hollywood.
And as I'm singing I got throughthe song and at the bottom of
the stairs there was this lady.
She's just oh.
There was this lady.
She said oh, that was sowonderful, I'd like to invite
you to come to my house fordinner.
I'm going.
And she said spaghetti dinner,that's important spaghetti
dinner.
So basically I said yes.
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And when I got to her home thatnight she had poems and plaques
and all kind of stuff all overher walls.
And I read this poem aboutchild abuse from the point of
view of a child who had beenkilled by her mother and father.
Child abuse to that degree.
But Mary had been working in ahospital and she was a nurse's
assistant and basically sheexperienced that.
And the little girl had saidmommy, if I'm good, will you
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love me and not hurt me anymore?
And this was this child died.
So it touched Mary's heart.
So she wrote a poem called alittle seed.
I'm reading this almost intears and I know because she had
it in a plaque on her wall andI said, oh, that is just
beautiful, I've never heardanything like that.
She says oh, you like that?
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Let me go get you somethingelse She'd come out with this
great little box, put it on thetable and as I'm going through
all these written andhandwritten and all kind of
typed and things, all thesewritten and handwritten and all
kind of typed and things I couldhold in my hand, footprints and
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the Sand handwritten, 1939.
And I'm going, mary, mary, I'mgetting my little thing out of
my purse.
You know I'm going.
You've got footprints, you'vegot this old footprints.
Where did it come from?
And she said I wrote it.
And I said you couldn't havebecause it's author unknown.
You'd have thought I would havesmacked her in the face.
It was oh boy, just how that.
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And I I am so sorry, I I don'tknow your story.
She says I will tell you mystory and I said I will help you
.
I said I'm a singer, songwriter, I know how to promote some
things, but I will help you andI meant it, it I vowed.
And so, basically since 1979,guys, mary passed away in 1999,
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in January, january 6th, andwhen we were doing all of our
projects, I'm helping her.
I became pregnant with mydaughter, been married five
years and nothing, and so Mary'shelping me become a mom because
I'm from Ohio, I'm out inCalifornia now, I don't know
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anyone, and Mary was helping mealong the way and telling me her
stories.
She didn't just went bleh, as Ineeded to hear, and I wrote
them down.
I wrote our experiences downbecause they were so unique and
so wonderful and at one point Inever wanted to be that woman's
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manager.
I'll tell you why.
She's a free spirit.
She loved people.
All she wanted to do was feedpeople and help people and get
them to their next level andencourage them, even though her
upbringing was opposite.
She was 14.
Her mother had passed away andthe father tried to take care of
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these little kids.
He was a stevedore so he couldmake money, give it to the
oldest one, and then he took offon the ship doing his job and
basically they were from Chester, pennsylvania, and the oldest
one had to take care ofeverybody.
Well, it was feasting time, youknow, at the beginning.
And then the money ran out andthis was during the Depression
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and it was famine and these guyswere starving, mary said.
I can remember her lining us upand giving us water to send us
to bed, because we had nothing.
And when they would put tar onthe roofs, the people called us
tar babies.
Now she had blonde hair andblue eyes.
They called her tar babies,because those kids were up on
the roof grabbing the tar andchewing on on it and eating tar
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off of people's roofs to be thatpoor and that hungry.
And I've always been a personwho asks questions.
My grandfather was a ministerand I would ask him so many
questions.
I was his caretaker and one ofthem, you you know and basically
I asked her.
I said why, mary?
What did it feel?
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Why?
She says you know what?
I never, ever, ever, ever wantto be poor again.
I never want to be hungry again.
So I feed and I help people.
And she says when I was 14, Iwas locked out of the house and
it was cold and it was winterand I saw a cat walking on the
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snow neighbor's cat.
And I said God, can you justgive me something to write?
Because she said Robert LouisStevenson was a descendant.
Somebody in the family musthave told her that, even though
he never had kids.
But when you're poor like that,you're going to hold on to
anything.
And she said I'm a descendantof robin louis stevenson.
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I should be able to write.
And she asked god give mesomething.
And basically uh, she said I, Igot this in my head and she
said I, I didn't want to be inthe snow, I thought of someplace
warmer.
So I thought of the beach andit just came to me.
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She said it came to me, Godgave it to me.
I just pushed the pencil and itwas footprints in the sand.
And she said people loved it.
I wrote it was the biggest.
Biggest.
If you talk about going viral,this is a piece that went viral
in the day when there was nocomputers and internet.
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She just kept writing big chainletter and writing everybody,
everybody, if you felt bad here,let me make, and there's some.
She said this to me because I'mlooking at the old copy.
Right, let's go back to herkitchen again.
I'm looking at the old copy andshe says oh, you like that.
Yeah, she says, let me make youa fresh copy.
So she sat down, took her penin hand and it was the exact
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same words she had written whenshe was 14 years old and that
meant something.
It's so strange.
Yeah, you go through things andyou.
They're so incidental at thetime, but later on they actually
mean something.
Those words were given to herdirectly from god.
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I believe that's why ittraveled and did what it did.
I even spoke to a gentleman whowrote all kinds he made millions
off the paintings of footprintsin the sand and he he said I
said, well, how did you get it,the copy of footprints?
He said a lady came up to himand he was in.
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I want to say he was on theEast coast and it was like
Myrtle it wasn't Myrtle beachbut was one of the beaches there
and it was like myrtle, itwasn't myrtle beach but was one
of the beaches there.
And she had a letter, she had acopy, handwritten copy, of
footprints and handed it to himand he said when he turned
around she was gone and hestarted painting the scenes of
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jesus on the water and he mademillions of dollars and writing
the poem footprints in the sand,author unknown.
So all the years we we got abook deals and I hold this up
powerful prayers because thiswas a big project.
This was with larry king andthe larry king people needed to
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know that the poem wasauthenticated.
We did that through a judge andthey put it in their book and
basically we even got moviedeals and offers and but nothing
.
Um, I said I was going to adocumentary about everything
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because I wrote a song HorseFootprints in the Sand to go
with it and a soundtrack ofsongs.
And my daughter who sings withSmokey Robinson.
Her name's Carrie BenoitMorales.
She was in the music video withMary and I when she was 16.
And Mary was in it in herwheelchair and we were in Seal
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Beach and we did it.
At the very end of the musicvideo of the song Footprints in
the Sand, mary got up out of herwheelchair, raised her hands to
the sky along with the music.
It wasn't even no one, even shejust did that.
And that to me, is the end ofthe documentary the music
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playing the music video and marylifting her hands.
But in the meantime, people'sstories.
So it's not just the storyabout mary meeting mary, it's
other people's stories like howdid you hear footprints in the
sand?
How did it?
It touch you?
And I've been collectingthrough all those years, you
guys, stories of other people Todo a collage someday of how
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footprints in the sand affectedpeople's lives.
Oh, another short one DollyParton and her book.
She was, she was going.
It's her book, dolly, and Ihave a copy.
I keep these things too.
She was going to commit suicidebook Dolly and I have a copy.
I keep these things too.
She was going to commit suicide.
She says it right in the bookand she says she read the
footprints there it was and saidno.
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She wrote Mary a nice letterabout her first book.
We did get her published afootprints book published and
then I wrote my book calledFootsteps, my Journey, and
that's those years that I spentputting this together and Mary's
first book.
At the back of it.
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I was trying to gather people'sstories and also said I was
going to do the documentary.
So here you have it I'm goingto do this documentary what is
Mary's last name?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
what was Mary's Stevenson?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
and that's why she was always told they were
descendants of Robert LouisStevenson, the author.
And if you look it up there'sno you know, kids, you know kids
?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
you know, you know that gave her hope and that's
all she needed.
You know, I mean, sometimes Ithink we do that where it
doesn't doesn't matter if you,if you feel it and you, you, you
need that.
That's something that, uh, willkeep you going.
And and for her, that was justthe one little facet that opened
up that door for her to createthis amazing poem.
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And I know you're working veryhard to get her name attached to
this poem, because I still seeit out there a lot of times it
says author unknown andunfortunately, I've also seen it
where other people have puttheir name on it and taken
credit for it and that's that'snot true either.
Now, I know you and I discussedbriefly, cause I know
everybody's thinking well, whydon't you just get it
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copyrighted?
Why don't you just get it, youknow, go to the library of
Congress and and have it, and sowhy don't you share why?
That's been a challenge to do.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Okay.
So you know, of course that'sthat a challenge to do, okay.
So you know, of course that'sthat is a quit.
That's one of my questions.
My very first question to her.
You know why why?
Just because I'm a songwriterand I said get a copyright.
She goes well.
When I found out that'ssomething that you, you should
do to protect your material, shesaid at the time they wouldn't
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let you unless it was published.
So how are you going to get itpublished if you and I'm going
really, and so I'm doing myresearch, and it was 70
something before they would letyou copyright something like
that as an individual?
So it's all there.
You guys, the internet nowgives you everything, but this
was even before the internet, soI was living in libraries and
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calling people, so and then I'mgoing okay, well, let me help
you because we're working onsome projects and made a song
out of that little seed.
The Mama Don't you Love Me was asong that I made out of that
little baby that died the abuseand did a whole entertainers
against child abuse.
And that was the first timebecause we did that project, we
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were interviewed by thenewspapers in buena park that's
where disney and everything is.
And basically, when we wereinterviewed then we said mary
wrote footprints and that wasthe first time that they had put
footprints.
I don't know, this is a real.
This is a copy original of itthe buena park news and they put
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in there the footprints thingright here over on this side.
That's the first time, guys.
So you're seeing a real oldcopy of what we were able to do
and it was because of the childabuse thing recording.
So it's a piggyback thing thatwe did and that and I thought we
were finished.
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So anyway, I said because weput a copyright on that, I said
put a copyright on footprints.
She did, but still that didn'tkeep anybody from doing anything
because of clear back and ithad already been out there and
in my opinion, it put it intopublic domain.
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In public domain, you know,there's so many years that when
people are using the materialand using it it's in public
domain.
So she had no rights that way.
So I was trying to develop aher version of Footprints in the
Sand, the original, and I comeup with a trademark to clip on
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the bottom of it Because theseother people's versions.
If you ever plagiarize somethingor if you're ever a phony.
I'll tell you what.
You get so far away from whatthe original is because you're
being creative and you're tryingto make it your own.
And if you ever read any ofthese, because you're being
creative and you're trying tomake it your own, and if you
ever read any of these phonies,that's what you're going to be
reading, because we had aforensic scientist come in and
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do research, took the originalpiece and they had a team of
people to come up and say, no,mary's the oldest copy.
She is the authentic person whodid it.
And that is my job now in thisdocumentary to explain that.
I don't want to go deep into itto get people to miss the
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miracle of footprints in thesand.
It's a.
It's such a miracle.
I was going in the well whenMary died.
She was put in an unmarkedgrave and that bothers me.
So anyway, I was going throughthe internet.
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I always go through withfootprints and I have it logged
if something comes up.
I went.
I saw where there was amonument made 14 foot monument
of jesus and footprints in thesand in carthage, texas, and I I
got to go there and I went andit was like a year late.
Nothing happens like this, guys, so don't even just put your
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dream out there.
Work towards it, becauseinstant I don't have very many
things happen, except for Mickeyand I.
That was instant.
So I went to Carthage Texas andsaw what they had, because I
called the people and told themand wrote them and they probably
thought I was wacky.
And the guy who was the sculptor, he said he was at a funeral in
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Shawnee, oklahoma.
This is where my band met.
I'm from Ohio, I meet this bandin Shawnee Oklahoma and he said
I read this poem.
He said that needs a sculpture.
He said that needs a monument,a big monument.
His wife hated the idea and hewent.
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They moved to Carthage Texasbecause he was doing a job and
he was already making statuesand things like that.
So when he made this statue andI came there, I I said I want
to sing.
They gathered the people who hadbeen responsible for an entire
park to get, and these peoplewere older than me and I'm 70
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now, these are like 80s and 90sand 100.
And they were there.
They were responsible formaking this thing happen and
it's a beautiful park and it'sopen, it's free and I'm going.
Why did you do it.
He said my on my heart.
I was told to do it and I saidand they have a big thing,
marble thing, it says footprintsin sand for mary, mary
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stevenson.
So I'm going.
Oh God has his way, don't he?
There's 14.
We couldn't have done a plaqueon her grave that said that 14
foot and all of she got a wholepark.
Miracles, guys, miracles theyall have been.
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Even when she got sick and shewas put in a hospital Three
months later, apartment,three-bedroom apartment, nobody
had taken care of it, nobody hadhelped her.
Normally I was an apartmentmanager and singer.
I've always done all thesemultiple things and wore a lot
of hats, and we one yeah, you'relate a month or you're gone.
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Your, their stuff is gone.
You have to get ready foranother deal.
And I get this call from theapartment manager.
She goes, you know, mary's beenin the hospital.
I said, yeah, her son wassupposed to have been coming
taking something.
And her daughter-in-law, blah,blah, ex-daughter-in-law, and uh
, she goes.
They haven't we got anapartment full?
She says you have, can you dosomething?
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I'm in, I am in california, maryis in vegas and she was in a
hospital in vegas and at thispoint.
They had put her in a nursinghome in vegas and the lady said
I don't want to throw all thisaway.
And my husband had been up tohere with everything with me.
He's a former drag racer, donHampton, wonderful man to put up
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with me and Mary, his is Marystories.
So I got in my car and I saidGod, I got to do something.
And I drove to Vegas and I saidI got to save some of her stuff
.
Because the lady said please,please, I don't want to throw it
away.
And I'm there looking at this,going in three bedrooms of all
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this furniture and all this kindof stuff going, and something a
voice said take a cart.
She had no shopping cart.
Little shopping cart was partof her act because she's a
comedian too and I took this up,filled it full, put it out in
the trash, the stuff I couldn'ttake with me.
And my next trip out, this olderguy come up and he said you
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know what he says.
We have a family that hasnothing.
They moved out here.
He said is there anything inthere for them?
I said if you guys can help me,yes, she would enjoy that.
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So those were those things,that to save her writings and
save it has been and put what inmy car and then come back here
Now the tears, the hurt.
There's been a lot Finding out.
This lady that first found output her name on it.
That was miserable.
And then back and forth, andthe lady one of them's from
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Canada, and it just.
It's been a big battle but itdoesn't matter about the fight.
If you let go, they say let goand let God, that really means
you let go.
They say let go and let god,that really means you let go of
off your shoulders but you'reletting god direct you.
And so now, okay.
So you said kathy, well, whatare you doing now?
(28:59):
All right, so I'm going, okay,I, I got five a's.
I asked god, okay, what do I donext?
And he says yeah, just, I'm awriter.
So when I say he says it's notlike you hear, I'm god, no, it's
just in a spirit, you hearthings.
And so I'm to right now buildan audience.
(29:21):
And so how do I build anaudience?
It's, and I just going okay,god, lead me.
How do I build an audience?
So the next thing, I know I'mlistening.
This lady who was a millionaireand she was homeless before she
became a millionaire.
And I'm sitting in the audienceand I'm so excited.
And then the first thing thatlady does and it was at a
(29:42):
women's event she gives out herbooks to everybody.
Arlen hamilton's her name.
She gives out her books and I'mgoing, she wants everybody to
help, she wants and I'm going,that's that spirit, that's that
same spirit mary had.
And so I I said, well, I'mgonna follow her.
I just kept following her,couldn't afford for her to be my
(30:05):
mentor, until one day she didthis thing, what's called school
s-k-o-o-l and and you can teachover there.
And I followed her to school.
And then I opened up my ownschool class.
Why?
Because now I can build team,the dream team.
Do the dream team, do the dreamteam.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Well, I love the fact that you've taken everything
that you've had an opportunityto be part of and you've you've
always take it to the next levelto do something else and
something else and your heart is.
You wear your heart on yoursleeve and some of the
conversation that we had, youknow, prior, you know, to this
podcast and then you knowhearing your story and and
seeing seeing what you're doingwith it, you know you're such a
(30:56):
gift and to be in Mary's life tobe able to help her.
You know, have peopleunderstand who she was and again
, she didn't know at that time,but she gets this amazing
insight and get from God andthen it's taken people, I mean.
Here we are now in 2024, cominginto 2025.
And everybody is familiar withthat poem.
They know it, you know it'sbeen known all over the world
(31:20):
and but for her to get thecredit for it, I mean, is long
overdue.
With that, kathy, you're doingsuch amazing things and I know
there's going to be ways thatpeople are going to want to
reach out to you.
So we are going to have all ofKathy's links down below and if
you're listening to the podcast,just click on Kathy B's name.
(31:41):
You'll see it highlighted andthat will take you right to her
website, and then I'll give youguys an opportunity to connect
with her and reach out, and ifthere's something you'd like to
do to help her whether it is forthe 2028 Olympics or something
along with this documentary, youknow, please feel free to reach
out to her.
Kathy, I'm going to give youthe last minute to kind of wrap
it up, and then I want to haveyou back.
(32:03):
I really want to have you backbecause we got so many more
things to cover we didn't evenget a chance to touch on it, so
I gotta have you back.
And now, that is that's usuallythe way it goes.
I have my guests on and we endup having, uh, all of these um
things that we want to talkabout.
We run out of time, so, uh,what, uh, what would you like to
to share?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
you got the last minute well, I'll do this really
quickly.
Uh, and for mother's day, I amin a compilation book and it's
it's called god winks formothers, and squire roshnell is
the author, and my story of mymom giving me the footprints
poem and me meeting mary is inthere and he did a beautiful job
(32:44):
.
So that's not out yet, to beapril 2025.
And then the other is join meon Do the Dream Team
DoTheDreamTeamcom and come andbe a part.
It's a free membership, guys.
I let it be free because I wantto join.
I am being what do you want tocall it dutiful here.
(33:05):
You know I was told to build ateam, so how could I not open it
up to everybody?
And then I have your big dreamfridays, so, and I'm going to be
a part of uh, it's, keep on,let's see what your, your group.
I've joined.
Keep on sharing, keep onsharing.
And it's a fabulous site.
You guys, you got to go overthere.
(33:25):
I'm, I'm new, so don don't beafraid to be new.
Just, I'm just going to learnhow to keep doing this and keep
on sharing as well.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Thank you, oh, thank you.
Thank you for being with us, soI am excited.
Please connect with Kathy B andagain, everything will be down
below or also within the podcasther, her information, and thank
you for being here with metoday and sharing your story,
and I will look forward tohaving you back and until then,
you guys, thank you so much forbeing with me.
(33:55):
Remember, the most courageousthing you can do is be yourself.
Until next time, see ya.
Hey, I'm Coach Mickey and thank you for joining us,
and if this is your first timejoining us, come on in and make
yourself comfortable.
And for those of you that joinus on a regular basis, we are so
glad that you do and I'mexcited.
But I'm always excited when myguests are here.
But this woman is amazing.
I had an opportunity to meetwith her and her mission and
what she has done and who she isis just going to be so much fun
(00:23):
today, so I'm excited to haveher.
So, without further ado, I'mgoing to tell you a little bit
about who she is and what she'sgoing to be presenting, and then
how you guys can jump in andalso help her with some of her
causes.
So this is Kathy B.
She is an award-winning singer,songwriter, producer and
visionary leader known as theDream Maker.
As the CEO of Touching LivesMultimedia Incorporated, and she
(00:48):
is the founder of GrowingOnline Community, do the Dream
Team.
She empowers dreamers toachieve their big dreams.
Kathy is also an inspiringYouTube show, do the Dream TV,
where she motivates viewers toturn dreams into reality.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So I'm excited to have you Welcome, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Thank you for inviting me.
Well, I'm excited to have you,and it's not just these things
that you do, it's who you areand what you're doing, and we're
going to touch on some of thatbecause you have got submissions
that are pretty profound andand the one that I do want to
talk about is, uh, footprints inthe sand.
(01:31):
We're going to cover that in alittle bit, so stay tuned.
But also, um, your, yourmillion, um, I don't want to
kathy, we'll let you talk aboutit, because I don't want to say
something wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's One Million Voices.
Thank you, one Million Voices.
It's a song for the Olympics2028 Olympics, because Los
Angeles is going to be hostingthe Olympics in 2028.
And France just got through.
They had the Olympics.
So what the whole thing is, Ilove the Olympics, love the
(02:06):
whole idea of it.
And in 1984, I had anopportunity to go to the
Olympics in LA when it was outhere and I was pregnant with my
son and I had final tickets tothe diving event and he came
early, seven weeks early, and Ihad to sell my tickets.
So, and he came early, sevenweeks early, and I had to sell
(02:29):
my tickets.
So since then I wrote a song.
I actually wrote a song afterthat happened about the Olympics
and it was called the Torch ofLove.
I love the idea of the Statueof Liberty and everything that
goes along with that, and nowit's going to combine.
We're going to have the peoplewho gave us the Statue of
Liberty and they're coming hereto hand us the torch.
(02:51):
So that's the torch of love.
I want to teach it in schools.
We've got coloring books, justall kind of projects, because I
see us going to New York andFrance coming over that torch
and our singers a million voicesof people same place not the
same place, but same time, andall over the country singing the
(03:17):
song the Torch of Love.
So I've got a quest.
It's a big deal to try to get amillion voices plus a Guinness
World Book of Records.
We can make that too.
That would be fantastic.
Technically I don't know howwe're going to do it, but I know
we can because there's choirsout there and people who would
love to get involved insomething that's about unity and
(03:38):
peace and harmony.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I love it.
And one of the things thatyou're leaving out is that you
wrote this song.
Yes, yeah, you wrote this song,and that is amazing and that's
inspiring and the fact that it'sgoing to bring a lot of people
together.
And one of the things that youand I have talked about briefly
that I think a lot of people arenot aware of is that the Statue
of Liberty is a gift fromFrance.
(04:03):
Yes, yeah, and I don't think alot of people know that.
You know, and I'm from New Yorkand I think there's a lot of
people that didn't even knowthat that live in New York, let
alone the rest of the country.
So to bring those twocollaborations together is
pretty inspiring.
It's actually very much a greatcombination, and the timing
plus the torch.
(04:23):
So I know I'm going to put youon the spot because she's got.
I've heard you sing it andyou've got a lovely singing
voice and that's what you do.
Anyway, would you be willing toshare this song with us?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Sit back down, For the torch is a symbol of love.
Peace and kindness to share forpeople everywhere we bear the
torch of love I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Thank you, I put you on the spot.
I get you.
It's free to warm up a millionvoices.
Little baby, you know singingtoo but it's the lyrics, and
hearing people sing it allthroughout the country while
this torch is being brought backto LA would be absolutely
amazing.
And you're right, there's somany people that could get
(05:13):
involved.
And, remember, you guys, we'regoing to have the links down
below where you can connect withKathy B, because I know this is
something you will want to takepart in and we've got plenty of
time, so this is a great timefor everybody to connect and be
able to take part and, of course, whatever I can do for you here
on the West Coast too, pleaselet me know and see what we can
(05:33):
pull together for you.
You also have another questjourney that, every time I talk
about it, it just touches myheart, my soul, and this is
something that I was not awareof, and I'm going to let you
tell the story because this isgoing to touch all of you.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I mean, and for those of you that know the poem,
footprints in the Sand, this isjust going to just touch your
hearts, so'm just going to giveyou the the mic to share your
story, kathy well, when I, whenI first talked to you about it
and and when I first askedpeople if you've heard of the
poem, footprints in the sand andthey'll kind of scratch your
(06:18):
head and they'll go, oh yeah,but you know the one where god's
carrying the people because youknow they he thought he had to
walk it alone and all theproblems.
And here God says that's when Icarried you.
And I loved that poem becauseI'm from a real small town in
Ohio and my mom gave me a copyof the poem, a little card size
copy, to go on tour.
(06:39):
I was going on tour, leavingthe 500 people town and going on
tour nationwide.
We were going to be the openingact for Bob Hope, crystal Gale
and the Oak Ridge Boys.
We were in a group where wewere a 45-minute show, five
costume changes and we had toplay 16 different instruments.
Just in that show Kepteverybody.
We had them entertained becausewe knew one song for that
(07:03):
instrument Yakety sax on thesacks.
But anyway.
So that's where we had truckstops, that's where we ate,
because the truckers know wherethe good food is, and I'll tell
you what.
Guys, when you are touring youcan't get sick, you can't afford
to be sick.
So you have to watch everythingbecause the show must go on.
So here we are at truck stopsand I'm seeing my footprints in
(07:26):
the sand.
I'm pulling it out and there itis on the wall.
They're selling it everywhereand it says Author Unknown.
So okay, author Unknown.
I get to California years later,had my own group on the road
and recording and got airplayright with my first song
(07:49):
recording and got hair playright with my first song.
And uh was in oklahoma where Iwas interviewed by um danny's
day and it was a lady thatinterviewed me and I'm trying to
come up with her name right now.
I'll think of it later.
I'm 70, I'm gonna reveal that,so sometimes we get those brain
fogs.
So anyway, I was on my way.
So I had an opportunity to cometo california and sing record
(08:13):
with the steve miller band, hisgroup, their manager, the
financial manager.
We saw him in texas and he saidif you're ever here, don't ever
say that to somebody, if youever come out our way because I
will show up If you invite me.
I'm there, mickey, we will doit.
So I'm singing.
We got an opportunity to singat a place called the Palomino
(08:35):
Wind.
That was in Hollywood.
And as I'm singing I got throughthe song and at the bottom of
the stairs there was this lady.
She's just oh.
There was this lady.
She said oh, that was sowonderful, I'd like to invite
you to come to my house fordinner.
I'm going.
And she said spaghetti dinner,that's important spaghetti
dinner.
So basically I said yes.
(09:09):
And when I got to her home thatnight she had poems and plaques
and all kind of stuff all overher walls.
And I read this poem aboutchild abuse from the point of
view of a child who had beenkilled by her mother and father.
Child abuse to that degree.
But Mary had been working in ahospital and she was a nurse's
assistant and basically sheexperienced that.
And the little girl had saidmommy, if I'm good, will you
(09:33):
love me and not hurt me anymore?
And this was this child died.
So it touched Mary's heart.
So she wrote a poem called alittle seed.
I'm reading this almost intears and I know because she had
it in a plaque on her wall andI said, oh, that is just
beautiful, I've never heardanything like that.
She says oh, you like that?
(09:53):
Let me go get you somethingelse She'd come out with this
great little box, put it on thetable and as I'm going through
all these written andhandwritten and all kind of
typed and things, all thesewritten and handwritten and all
kind of typed and things I couldhold in my hand, footprints and
(10:15):
the Sand handwritten, 1939.
And I'm going, mary, mary, I'mgetting my little thing out of
my purse.
You know I'm going.
You've got footprints, you'vegot this old footprints.
Where did it come from?
And she said I wrote it.
And I said you couldn't havebecause it's author unknown.
You'd have thought I would havesmacked her in the face.
It was oh boy, just how that.
(10:37):
And I I am so sorry, I I don'tknow your story.
She says I will tell you mystory and I said I will help you
.
I said I'm a singer, songwriter, I know how to promote some
things, but I will help you andI meant it, it I vowed.
And so, basically since 1979,guys, mary passed away in 1999,
(11:06):
in January, january 6th, andwhen we were doing all of our
projects, I'm helping her.
I became pregnant with mydaughter, been married five
years and nothing, and so Mary'shelping me become a mom because
I'm from Ohio, I'm out inCalifornia now, I don't know
(11:27):
anyone, and Mary was helping mealong the way and telling me her
stories.
She didn't just went bleh, as Ineeded to hear, and I wrote
them down.
I wrote our experiences downbecause they were so unique and
so wonderful and at one point Inever wanted to be that woman's
(11:49):
manager.
I'll tell you why.
She's a free spirit.
She loved people.
All she wanted to do was feedpeople and help people and get
them to their next level andencourage them, even though her
upbringing was opposite.
She was 14.
Her mother had passed away andthe father tried to take care of
(12:14):
these little kids.
He was a stevedore so he couldmake money, give it to the
oldest one, and then he took offon the ship doing his job and
basically they were from Chester, pennsylvania, and the oldest
one had to take care ofeverybody.
Well, it was feasting time, youknow, at the beginning.
And then the money ran out andthis was during the Depression
(12:37):
and it was famine and these guyswere starving, mary said.
I can remember her lining us upand giving us water to send us
to bed, because we had nothing.
And when they would put tar onthe roofs, the people called us
tar babies.
Now she had blonde hair andblue eyes.
They called her tar babies,because those kids were up on
the roof grabbing the tar andchewing on on it and eating tar
(13:00):
off of people's roofs to be thatpoor and that hungry.
And I've always been a personwho asks questions.
My grandfather was a ministerand I would ask him so many
questions.
I was his caretaker and one ofthem, you you know and basically
I asked her.
I said why, mary?
What did it feel?
(13:21):
Why?
She says you know what?
I never, ever, ever, ever wantto be poor again.
I never want to be hungry again.
So I feed and I help people.
And she says when I was 14, Iwas locked out of the house and
it was cold and it was winterand I saw a cat walking on the
(13:42):
snow neighbor's cat.
And I said God, can you justgive me something to write?
Because she said Robert LouisStevenson was a descendant.
Somebody in the family musthave told her that, even though
he never had kids.
But when you're poor like that,you're going to hold on to
anything.
And she said I'm a descendantof robin louis stevenson.
(14:04):
I should be able to write.
And she asked god give mesomething.
And basically uh, she said I, Igot this in my head and she
said I, I didn't want to be inthe snow, I thought of someplace
warmer.
So I thought of the beach andit just came to me.
(14:24):
She said it came to me, Godgave it to me.
I just pushed the pencil and itwas footprints in the sand.
And she said people loved it.
I wrote it was the biggest.
Biggest.
If you talk about going viral,this is a piece that went viral
in the day when there was nocomputers and internet.
(14:46):
She just kept writing big chainletter and writing everybody,
everybody, if you felt bad here,let me make, and there's some.
She said this to me because I'mlooking at the old copy.
Right, let's go back to herkitchen again.
I'm looking at the old copy andshe says oh, you like that.
Yeah, she says, let me make youa fresh copy.
So she sat down, took her penin hand and it was the exact
(15:10):
same words she had written whenshe was 14 years old and that
meant something.
It's so strange.
Yeah, you go through things andyou.
They're so incidental at thetime, but later on they actually
mean something.
Those words were given to herdirectly from god.
(15:30):
I believe that's why ittraveled and did what it did.
I even spoke to a gentleman whowrote all kinds he made millions
off the paintings of footprintsin the sand and he he said I
said, well, how did you get it,the copy of footprints?
He said a lady came up to himand he was in.
(15:51):
I want to say he was on theEast coast and it was like
Myrtle it wasn't Myrtle beachbut was one of the beaches there
and it was like myrtle, itwasn't myrtle beach but was one
of the beaches there.
And she had a letter, she had acopy, handwritten copy, of
footprints and handed it to himand he said when he turned
around she was gone and hestarted painting the scenes of
(16:12):
jesus on the water and he mademillions of dollars and writing
the poem footprints in the sand,author unknown.
So all the years we we got abook deals and I hold this up
powerful prayers because thiswas a big project.
This was with larry king andthe larry king people needed to
(16:35):
know that the poem wasauthenticated.
We did that through a judge andthey put it in their book and
basically we even got moviedeals and offers and but nothing
.
Um, I said I was going to adocumentary about everything
(16:56):
because I wrote a song HorseFootprints in the Sand to go
with it and a soundtrack ofsongs.
And my daughter who sings withSmokey Robinson.
Her name's Carrie BenoitMorales.
She was in the music video withMary and I when she was 16.
And Mary was in it in herwheelchair and we were in Seal
(17:18):
Beach and we did it.
At the very end of the musicvideo of the song Footprints in
the Sand, mary got up out of herwheelchair, raised her hands to
the sky along with the music.
It wasn't even no one, even shejust did that.
And that to me, is the end ofthe documentary the music
(17:41):
playing the music video and marylifting her hands.
But in the meantime, people'sstories.
So it's not just the storyabout mary meeting mary, it's
other people's stories like howdid you hear footprints in the
sand?
How did it?
It touch you?
And I've been collectingthrough all those years, you
guys, stories of other people Todo a collage someday of how
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footprints in the sand affectedpeople's lives.
Oh, another short one DollyParton and her book.
She was, she was going.
It's her book, dolly, and Ihave a copy.
I keep these things too.
She was going to commit suicidebook Dolly and I have a copy.
I keep these things too.
She was going to commit suicide.
She says it right in the bookand she says she read the
footprints there it was and saidno.
(18:29):
She wrote Mary a nice letterabout her first book.
We did get her published afootprints book published and
then I wrote my book calledFootsteps, my Journey, and
that's those years that I spentputting this together and Mary's
first book.
At the back of it.
(18:49):
I was trying to gather people'sstories and also said I was
going to do the documentary.
So here you have it I'm goingto do this documentary what is
Mary's last name?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
what was Mary's Stevenson?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
and that's why she was always told they were
descendants of Robert LouisStevenson, the author.
And if you look it up there'sno you know, kids, you know kids
?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
you know, you know that gave her hope and that's
all she needed.
You know, I mean, sometimes Ithink we do that where it
doesn't doesn't matter if you,if you feel it and you, you, you
need that.
That's something that, uh, willkeep you going.
And and for her, that was justthe one little facet that opened
up that door for her to createthis amazing poem.
(19:44):
And I know you're working veryhard to get her name attached to
this poem, because I still seeit out there a lot of times it
says author unknown andunfortunately, I've also seen it
where other people have puttheir name on it and taken
credit for it and that's that'snot true either.
Now, I know you and I discussedbriefly, cause I know
everybody's thinking well, whydon't you just get it
(20:06):
copyrighted?
Why don't you just get it, youknow, go to the library of
Congress and and have it, and sowhy don't you share why?
That's been a challenge to do.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Okay.
So you know, of course that'sthat a challenge to do, okay.
So you know, of course that'sthat is a quit.
That's one of my questions.
My very first question to her.
You know why why?
Just because I'm a songwriterand I said get a copyright.
She goes well.
When I found out that'ssomething that you, you should
do to protect your material, shesaid at the time they wouldn't
(20:35):
let you unless it was published.
So how are you going to get itpublished if you and I'm going
really, and so I'm doing myresearch, and it was 70
something before they would letyou copyright something like
that as an individual?
So it's all there.
You guys, the internet nowgives you everything, but this
was even before the internet, soI was living in libraries and
(20:58):
calling people, so and then I'mgoing okay, well, let me help
you because we're working onsome projects and made a song
out of that little seed.
The Mama Don't you Love Me was asong that I made out of that
little baby that died the abuseand did a whole entertainers
against child abuse.
And that was the first timebecause we did that project, we
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were interviewed by thenewspapers in buena park that's
where disney and everything is.
And basically, when we wereinterviewed then we said mary
wrote footprints and that wasthe first time that they had put
footprints.
I don't know, this is a real.
This is a copy original of itthe buena park news and they put
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in there the footprints thingright here over on this side.
That's the first time, guys.
So you're seeing a real oldcopy of what we were able to do
and it was because of the childabuse thing recording.
So it's a piggyback thing thatwe did and that and I thought we
were finished.
(22:02):
So anyway, I said because weput a copyright on that, I said
put a copyright on footprints.
She did, but still that didn'tkeep anybody from doing anything
because of clear back and ithad already been out there and
in my opinion, it put it intopublic domain.
(22:23):
In public domain, you know,there's so many years that when
people are using the materialand using it it's in public
domain.
So she had no rights that way.
So I was trying to develop aher version of Footprints in the
Sand, the original, and I comeup with a trademark to clip on
(22:44):
the bottom of it Because theseother people's versions.
If you ever plagiarize somethingor if you're ever a phony.
I'll tell you what.
You get so far away from whatthe original is because you're
being creative and you're tryingto make it your own.
And if you ever read any ofthese, because you're being
creative and you're trying tomake it your own, and if you
ever read any of these phonies,that's what you're going to be
reading, because we had aforensic scientist come in and
(23:05):
do research, took the originalpiece and they had a team of
people to come up and say, no,mary's the oldest copy.
She is the authentic person whodid it.
And that is my job now in thisdocumentary to explain that.
I don't want to go deep into itto get people to miss the
(23:28):
miracle of footprints in thesand.
It's a.
It's such a miracle.
I was going in the well whenMary died.
She was put in an unmarkedgrave and that bothers me.
So anyway, I was going throughthe internet.
(23:50):
I always go through withfootprints and I have it logged
if something comes up.
I went.
I saw where there was amonument made 14 foot monument
of jesus and footprints in thesand in carthage, texas, and I I
got to go there and I went andit was like a year late.
Nothing happens like this, guys, so don't even just put your
(24:15):
dream out there.
Work towards it, becauseinstant I don't have very many
things happen, except for Mickeyand I.
That was instant.
So I went to Carthage Texas andsaw what they had, because I
called the people and told themand wrote them and they probably
thought I was wacky.
And the guy who was the sculptor, he said he was at a funeral in
(24:38):
Shawnee, oklahoma.
This is where my band met.
I'm from Ohio, I meet this bandin Shawnee Oklahoma and he said
I read this poem.
He said that needs a sculpture.
He said that needs a monument,a big monument.
His wife hated the idea and hewent.
(24:58):
They moved to Carthage Texasbecause he was doing a job and
he was already making statuesand things like that.
So when he made this statue andI came there, I I said I want
to sing.
They gathered the people who hadbeen responsible for an entire
park to get, and these peoplewere older than me and I'm 70
(25:22):
now, these are like 80s and 90sand 100.
And they were there.
They were responsible formaking this thing happen and
it's a beautiful park and it'sopen, it's free and I'm going.
Why did you do it.
He said my on my heart.
I was told to do it and I saidand they have a big thing,
marble thing, it says footprintsin sand for mary, mary
(25:43):
stevenson.
So I'm going.
Oh God has his way, don't he?
There's 14.
We couldn't have done a plaqueon her grave that said that 14
foot and all of she got a wholepark.
Miracles, guys, miracles theyall have been.
(26:05):
Even when she got sick and shewas put in a hospital Three
months later, apartment,three-bedroom apartment, nobody
had taken care of it, nobody hadhelped her.
Normally I was an apartmentmanager and singer.
I've always done all thesemultiple things and wore a lot
of hats, and we one yeah, you'relate a month or you're gone.
(26:26):
Your, their stuff is gone.
You have to get ready foranother deal.
And I get this call from theapartment manager.
She goes, you know, mary's beenin the hospital.
I said, yeah, her son wassupposed to have been coming
taking something.
And her daughter-in-law, blah,blah, ex-daughter-in-law, and uh
, she goes.
They haven't we got anapartment full?
She says you have, can you dosomething?
(26:48):
I'm in, I am in california, maryis in vegas and she was in a
hospital in vegas and at thispoint.
They had put her in a nursinghome in vegas and the lady said
I don't want to throw all thisaway.
And my husband had been up tohere with everything with me.
He's a former drag racer, donHampton, wonderful man to put up
(27:12):
with me and Mary, his is Marystories.
So I got in my car and I saidGod, I got to do something.
And I drove to Vegas and I saidI got to save some of her stuff
.
Because the lady said please,please, I don't want to throw it
away.
And I'm there looking at this,going in three bedrooms of all
(27:33):
this furniture and all this kindof stuff going, and something a
voice said take a cart.
She had no shopping cart.
Little shopping cart was partof her act because she's a
comedian too and I took this up,filled it full, put it out in
the trash, the stuff I couldn'ttake with me.
And my next trip out, this olderguy come up and he said you
(27:56):
know what he says.
We have a family that hasnothing.
They moved out here.
He said is there anything inthere for them?
I said if you guys can help me,yes, she would enjoy that.
(28:16):
So those were those things,that to save her writings and
save it has been and put what inmy car and then come back here
Now the tears, the hurt.
There's been a lot Finding out.
This lady that first found output her name on it.
That was miserable.
And then back and forth, andthe lady one of them's from
(28:39):
Canada, and it just.
It's been a big battle but itdoesn't matter about the fight.
If you let go, they say let goand let God, that really means
you let go.
They say let go and let god,that really means you let go of
off your shoulders but you'reletting god direct you.
And so now, okay.
So you said kathy, well, whatare you doing now?
(28:59):
All right, so I'm going, okay,I, I got five a's.
I asked god, okay, what do I donext?
And he says yeah, just, I'm awriter.
So when I say he says it's notlike you hear, I'm god, no, it's
just in a spirit, you hearthings.
And so I'm to right now buildan audience.
(29:21):
And so how do I build anaudience?
It's, and I just going okay,god, lead me.
How do I build an audience?
So the next thing, I know I'mlistening.
This lady who was a millionaireand she was homeless before she
became a millionaire.
And I'm sitting in the audienceand I'm so excited.
And then the first thing thatlady does and it was at a
(29:42):
women's event she gives out herbooks to everybody.
Arlen hamilton's her name.
She gives out her books and I'mgoing, she wants everybody to
help, she wants and I'm going,that's that spirit, that's that
same spirit mary had.
And so I I said, well, I'mgonna follow her.
I just kept following her,couldn't afford for her to be my
(30:05):
mentor, until one day she didthis thing, what's called school
s-k-o-o-l and and you can teachover there.
And I followed her to school.
And then I opened up my ownschool class.
Why?
Because now I can build team,the dream team.
Do the dream team, do the dreamteam.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Well, I love the fact that you've taken everything
that you've had an opportunityto be part of and you've you've
always take it to the next levelto do something else and
something else and your heart is.
You wear your heart on yoursleeve and some of the
conversation that we had, youknow, prior, you know, to this
podcast and then you knowhearing your story and and
seeing seeing what you're doingwith it, you know you're such a
(30:56):
gift and to be in Mary's life tobe able to help her.
You know, have peopleunderstand who she was and again
, she didn't know at that time,but she gets this amazing
insight and get from God andthen it's taken people, I mean.
Here we are now in 2024, cominginto 2025.
And everybody is familiar withthat poem.
They know it, you know it'sbeen known all over the world
(31:20):
and but for her to get thecredit for it, I mean, is long
overdue.
With that, kathy, you're doingsuch amazing things and I know
there's going to be ways thatpeople are going to want to
reach out to you.
So we are going to have all ofKathy's links down below and if
you're listening to the podcast,just click on Kathy B's name.
(31:41):
You'll see it highlighted andthat will take you right to her
website, and then I'll give youguys an opportunity to connect
with her and reach out, and ifthere's something you'd like to
do to help her whether it is forthe 2028 Olympics or something
along with this documentary, youknow, please feel free to reach
out to her.
Kathy, I'm going to give youthe last minute to kind of wrap
it up, and then I want to haveyou back.
(32:03):
I really want to have you backbecause we got so many more
things to cover we didn't evenget a chance to touch on it, so
I gotta have you back.
And now, that is that's usuallythe way it goes.
I have my guests on and we endup having, uh, all of these um
things that we want to talkabout.
We run out of time, so, uh,what, uh, what would you like to
to share?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
you got the last minute well, I'll do this really
quickly.
Uh, and for mother's day, I amin a compilation book and it's
it's called god winks formothers, and squire roshnell is
the author, and my story of mymom giving me the footprints
poem and me meeting mary is inthere and he did a beautiful job
(32:44):
.
So that's not out yet, to beapril 2025.
And then the other is join meon Do the Dream Team
DoTheDreamTeamcom and come andbe a part.
It's a free membership, guys.
I let it be free because I wantto join.
I am being what do you want tocall it dutiful here.
(33:05):
You know I was told to build ateam, so how could I not open it
up to everybody?
And then I have your big dreamfridays, so, and I'm going to be
a part of uh, it's, keep on,let's see what your, your group.
I've joined.
Keep on sharing, keep onsharing.
And it's a fabulous site.
You guys, you got to go overthere.
(33:25):
I'm, I'm new, so don don't beafraid to be new.
Just, I'm just going to learnhow to keep doing this and keep
on sharing as well.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Thank you, oh, thank you.
Thank you for being with us, soI am excited.
Please connect with Kathy B andagain, everything will be down
below or also within the podcasther, her information, and thank
you for being here with metoday and sharing your story,
and I will look forward tohaving you back and until then,
you guys, thank you so much forbeing with me.
(33:55):
Remember, the most courageousthing you can do is be yourself.
Until next time, see ya.
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