December 4, 2025 • 28 mins
What if the version of success you built no longer fits, and the real path forward starts with five quiet minutes? That’s where our conversation with Elizabeth begins. She’s an engineer-turned-empowerment coach who helps people plug back into their power by aligning what they want with what they believe, feel, and do each day. We unpack the subtle signs of misalignment chronic unease, constant chasing, an inner no beneath an outer yes and why feeling clearer, not busier, is the truest performance metric.
We dig into her simple framework: name a vivid vision, then empty the “backpack” of beliefs that fight it. Fear shows up for everyone, but it doesn’t have to be the driver. Elizabeth walks through finding the root of a fear, reframing it with evidence and choice, and getting the subconscious on board so action feels lighter. For high-achievers and logical thinkers, we talk about balancing analysis with possibility, replacing the demand for 40 steps with the next wise step, and using small experiments to build proof and momentum.
You’ll hear practical tools you can start today: a five-minute daily quiet practice to sense your own energy and wants, questions that separate your voice from external noise, and ways to treat your past as a bridge rather than a prison. If you’re staring at a comfortable life that doesn’t feel like yours, this conversation offers a path back to clarity, courage, and forward motion. Listen, take one honest step, and tell us what comfort you’re ready to release.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:29):
Hey, I'm Coach Mickey, and welcome to Coach
Mickey and Friends.
And if this is your first timejoining us, come on in and make
yourself comfortable.
And for those of you that joinus on a regular basis, we are so
glad that you do.
I love hearing from you guys,and thank you so much for always
connecting with my guests.
And I love your comments, yourquestions, and your suggestions
of people you'd like to have on.
Uh, and also I appreciate eachand every one of you that has
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reached out to me personally forsome of the questions for my
guests.
So when I have the opportunityto bring them back, we can uh
revisit those questions thatyou've sent me.
And I want to thank all of youand show my gratitude for all
the support and love and the umwonderful referrals you guys
have given me for my book,Fourth and One Mindset.
(01:13):
If you don't have that link,it's down below.
And uh, if you listen to thepodcast, um you can also find it
where it says connect with CoachMickey.
So I am really excited today.
This is going to be so much fun.
I have got somebody that isgoing to open up your mind, your
heart, your soul, and give yousome incredible information to
make your life amazing.
And uh I am going to bring on awoman who is an empowerment
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coach, a visionary guide.
Her mission in life is pluggingpeople back into their power via
backpack awareness and emotionalresponsibility.
Besides shifting realities andholding a space for epic
transformation, Elizabeth lovesall the things mystical,
laughing, playing in the quantumsavoring life, uh, exploring new
places, being outside with herhusband B and her doggy
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sidekick, Luna.
So welcome, Elizabeth.
Hey, how are you?
SPEAKER_01 (02:04):
That was a great intro.
I'm excited to chat with youtoday.
SPEAKER_00 (02:08):
Well, I'm glad you're here.
And uh I love it when I have gotother guests on that says, Hey,
I've got somebody that isdynamic that you need to have on
as a guest.
So I want to give a shout out toKatrina.
Thank you so much.
I love your girlfriend.
You are awesome.
Uh, thank you for connecting thetwo of us.
So I gotta ask.
So I I love what you're doing,and I had an opportunity to look
at some of your information.
(02:29):
And uh, so I'm gonna just giveyou the mic and let you share uh
who you are and what you do, andand we'll just go from there.
SPEAKER_01 (02:37):
That's that sounds great.
Thank you, Mickey.
As you said, I am an empowermentcoach, and my specialty is
plugging people into theirpower.
You actually always have yourpower, it's innate, right?
You're born with it, but mostpeople are not aware that
they've actually unplugged fromit.
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And I myself was that way for along time.
And once I plugged back into it,everything changed.
And so did my life journey, mymission, right?
My mission became tellingeveryone about it and then
holding space for other peopleto have that same experience.
SPEAKER_00 (03:19):
Okay, so give us an out, give us a little bit of
insight on what you mean bythat, like uh tapping back into
your your empowerment, yourempowerment.
How do you how do you go aboutthat?
SPEAKER_01 (03:29):
Yes.
So for me, my previous lifejourney was in engineering.
I had decades of experience inthat career, and I poured
everything into that.
And I actually thought that Iwas experiencing my power,
right?
I thought I was powerful, I hadthe dream job that I wanted, and
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other people in my community sawme as a leader.
And from the outside, it waslike, oh yeah, she's definitely
plugged into her power, but Iwasn't feeling great, and I
wasn't being honest with myselfabout that.
So you'll know if you're pluggedinto your power or not based on
how you feel.
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If you're feeling great, no,it's not you're feeling great
all the time because it's ahuman journey, right?
But you're not mostly feelingnot great and feeling unclear
and just, you know, not certain.
I was always kind of chasingmore, but just there was this
nagging feeling that it wasn'tthe path I was meant to be on.
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And everything was much moredifficult than it really should
have been.
So for me, whenever I learnedthat my power was actually
within, and I began to look atwhat was happening on the
inside, you have to slow down abit, right?
Because oftentimes when you'rein that power mode, you're also
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racing.
So I slowed down and began tolook at, oh, how am I actually
feeling?
Am I enjoying this?
Right?
Like, is this actually what Iwant to be doing?
And also, what were the beliefsthat were driving me, the
limitations?
You know, I was expending somuch energy, but it was just
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this out of control effort withnot as much to show for it as
really what could have been.
So, really, for me, thedefinition of plugging back into
your power is getting back tothat place of alignment where
you have clarity and you'refeeling good.
SPEAKER_00 (05:38):
Now, did you, since you started out as an engineer,
do you I mean, because thatthat's a lot of schooling,
that's a lot to go through.
I know how difficult it isbecause my son, right now, is
going to school to be anelectrical engineer, and I know
what he's going through.
And it is it is not an easyjourney.
I know it's not.
So when I know when you weregoing through that, at the time,
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did you feel as though that'swhere you were supposed to be?
And then as you got into it, youkind of changed and evolved to
bring you to where you aretoday.
SPEAKER_01 (06:08):
Yeah, definitely.
And I am a hundred percentcertain that every part of our
journey is there for a specificreason.
So for me, that part of myjourney, which lasted multiple
decades, was actually a hugecatalyst to keep me going,
right?
To keep me moving forward.
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It was a bridge, you could say,to this life that I'm living
now.
And definitely without that, Iwould not be here.
But there was a time where that,to my mind, was a hundred
percent what I believed I wantedto do, and I believed I was
where I wanted to be.
But what happens with the humanmind is that you're limited,
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right?
You can only see so manypossibilities.
So, given the possibilities thatI had available to me, that was
the best one.
But over time, a lot of newpossibilities became available.
And then it was like, okay, withthese new ones now in my
awareness, that was no longerthe one I was settling for.
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If that makes sense.
SPEAKER_00 (07:15):
Yeah, it does.
It does.
And the the other thing too is Ithink a lot of times we have a
direction that we're going andthat we've worked really hard
for.
And we we ought to look at itand go, my gosh, I put so much
time and energy into this.
And I think where people getstuck a lot of times is they
don't realize that sometimesthis is a great place to be and
a good stopping point, but thenit's gonna branch out into other
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areas where you can still grow.
And and even if you'recomfortable, and I always say
being comfortable is the mostdangerous place you can be in,
but you have to be able to lookat, okay, where can I go from
here?
Or is it a detour?
Is this someplace that maybe ismy stopping spot?
And I'm gonna it's gonna lead meto something else.
So, how did that work for yougoing from an engineer to what
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you're doing now?
Because this is a completelydifferent mindset.
I mean, it's completelydifferent.
SPEAKER_01 (08:05):
Yeah, and you hit it, you hit it on the head for
sure.
Because a couple of things.
One, if there was something thatwas going to stop me, it was
actually the comfort that youtalk about, right?
Because when you get in thatspace of this is known, this is
familiar, your brain likes it.
It feels good, even if likeevery part of my body and my
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soul was screaming, no, youknow, we're not doing this
anymore.
This is not the answer.
But my brain's like, oh, but weknow this and we've done it for
so long, and you're really goodat it.
You're totally right.
If you can push yourself to leaninto that, okay, what why am I
holding on to this comfort andthis safety?
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I do air quotes, right?
The safety and the known,everything magical, right, and
miraculous is on the other sideof that.
Now, for me, the other piece wasmy engineering brain was very
logical.
So I had to, you know, start toreally press the edges of that,
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first in like a minor way, andthen in a really big way,
because my logical brain had tolet let go a lot for me to be
able to experience a lot moremagic.
SPEAKER_00 (09:20):
Yeah, and that's the that is a huge endeavor because,
like you said, you're going fromone thing that you know, and
that's what one side of yourbrain, and now what you're doing
is more an emotional, not onlythat you're reaching out, but
what a gift that you could gofrom from doing what you were
doing as an engineer and beingso analytical and so structured,
you know, with things that havegot to be there.
(09:42):
There really is very, and youtell me I don't know that much
about engineering, but I'massuming there's not a lot of
gray area as an engineer.
It's pretty black and white,right?
SPEAKER_01 (09:51):
Yeah, yeah.
And you're right, it's nice.
I do appreciate like like goingback to that part where we were
saying every part of yourjourney is there for a reason.
I appreciate that I have thatexperience because when people
come to me and they're in thatlogical mindset or they're in
that safe and known and familiararea, I have that experience to
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say, yes, I know what your brainis doing in this situation.
Now, as far as, you know,engineering and logic and
feeling safe and it feelingknown, it really is about just
opening up to additionalpossibilities because your brain
is the only thing limiting that,right?
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And once you can even just crackthe door open and say, okay, I
don't know what this looks like,but I'm I'm I'm available for
something else and somethingmore.
That's when you really crackthat door open to let other
things come into yourexperience.
SPEAKER_00 (10:49):
I think the the most important thing that I you
tapped into was the fact thatyou were open to making a choice
because a lot of people getstuck.
They think, this is it, this iswhat I did, this is what I'm
working for, is I don't know ifI'm capable of anymore.
And taking a risk is soimportant.
So too many people are afraid todo that, especially with the
change.
(11:09):
I mean, it's a very dramaticchange.
And uh so I'm gonna I want toskip ahead a little bit.
So when you try decided to uhyou know take on something
different and move on to whatyou're doing now, what what what
to walk me through the processthat you went through to lead
you to where you are today?
SPEAKER_01 (11:28):
Yeah, and like you said, some people get part of it
for me was that moment whereyou're like, okay, I just
committed two decades of my lifeor more to this, right?
Like I've put all my eggs intothis basket, and you know, your
brain will say to you, like, whyare you throwing this away?
But that initial perspectiveshift was very much, you know,
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we're not throwing anythingaway.
One, it's just using thoseexperiences and seeing it as a
bridge, but two, understandingthat the human journey is meant
to be dynamic, right?
Like there was this old kind ofmodel, um, this old conditioning
of like you pick one thing andyou just go for it and you're 50
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years later and you finish it,right?
And imagine, like now I can lookback on that and be like, wow, I
can't, I can't fathom thatbecause I've expanded my mind so
much in the last 10, 12 years tothink that I was just done, you
know, learning at that point.
No matter where you're at onthis human journey, there's more
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to learn.
You can always discover newthings.
And oftentimes when people arein that where they're like, I've
put so much into this, I've gotto stay here.
It's just because they'veforgotten that there's still so
much life to experience and somuch to discover, right?
SPEAKER_00 (12:54):
And I think you you just nailed it.
And I and I that's the thing Icome across a lot too, is people
like, oh, I put so much time andenergy in this, and I've worked
hard, I've done this for years.
How can I start something new?
How can I just walk away fromthis?
And I think a lot of timespeople think this is not like,
okay, you know, you're cuttingthe ties of your past or what
you're doing right now to jumpinto something new.
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There can be a gradualtransition to, you know, and
still do it because I find thatif you're not doing what you
love or if it's you're nothitting the ground running when
you get up in the morning, youknow, with what you're you're
going to do each day, then youhave to weigh out do I really
love this, or am I just goingthrough the motions and I'm
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letting time go by?
And and you have to make thatchoice.
And I've come to that crossroadmany times too.
But I think where people getstuck is you've got to go, okay,
is it worth the risk?
And then if it is worth therisk, you got to be able to
accept it's gonna be a journey,it's gonna take time, and
there's gonna be times you'regonna have to pick yourself up,
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right?
SPEAKER_01 (14:00):
Yeah, and it's really one step at a time.
Like a lot of times when you'rewhen you're looking like ahead,
your brain's like, oh man,that's like 40 steps away.
And really like getting out ofthat big picture mode and just
remembering it's literally onestep at a time.
SPEAKER_00 (14:21):
So so tell me what you do when someone comes to you
and and was going to work withyou and they are going through
the same journey like you'veexperienced, and they're like, I
need a change, I need somethingdifferent.
How do you walk them through?
By the way, first of all, uh, ifyou guys are listening on the
podcast or you're here with uson the YouTube channel, um, if
you would like to uh connectwith Elizabeth again, you know
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the links will be below.
And if you're listening to thepodcast, just click on her name
and it'll take you right to herwebsite.
So um uh so what would you do,Elizabeth?
If somebody walks in and says,Okay, I need a big change, my
life is not where I want it tobe, where do I go?
SPEAKER_01 (14:56):
Yeah, yeah.
And it's definitely differentfor each person, but the crux of
it is always the same.
So people come to be and we wenail down a vision.
Like where do they seethemselves going, right?
Like, is it a change in theircareer?
Is it feeling better in theirphysical body?
Is it a change with arelationship or calling in a new
relationship?
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You know, what is the vision?
That's the first step.
And then the next step is okay,what is in your backpack that is
not aligned with the vision?
So it's easy for most people,honestly, to connect to the
vision.
Most people have a great visionthat they share with me, but the
next step is the key becauseyour brain is either on board
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with the vision or your brain isnot on board.
And if your brain is on board,it is a lot, there's more ease,
right?
The steps are revealed, you cantake it step by step and you're
feeling good.
If your brain's not on board,you're spinning your wheels.
And most people, when they getto me, they don't have awareness
of where their brain's not onboard.
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So that's where we start.
That's that's the big hitter,right?
Like that's the slam dunk.
So it's get clear on the vision,and then where is your brain not
on board?
And I have a specific processfor helping people to reframe
their subconscious to get theirtheir brain on board.
SPEAKER_00 (16:18):
Well, that's the key.
It's mindset.
And and the mindset, I think,wherever we come in with or
wherever we're where we are, youknow, we're meeting people where
they are at the moment, isgetting them to realize that
there's so much more than whatthey're they're allowing
themselves to think about or orto bring forward.
Um, so so tell me some of thestories.
I mean, some of the things thatyou find that people maybe
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struggle with the most, and andhow do you help them get over
that obstacle?
SPEAKER_01 (16:46):
Yeah, I would say in like let's say somebody comes to
me for a career change, or they,you know, they have a specific
vision for what they, even ifit's not a career change,
something they want to do intheir career, that's very
common.
And normally when we lean intothe backpack to say, okay, where
is your brain not on board?
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They have fear.
There's fears.
It could be fear of the unknown.
That's very common, but thefears honestly are different for
each person and they're endless.
So it's it's very unique.
The key with fear though is thatmost people, they've kind of
conditioned themselves to justignore the fear because they
don't know what to do with it.
So it's like I don't want tokeep, I don't want to keep
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interacting and engaging withthe fear because it doesn't feel
great and I don't know what todo with it.
So they'll just stuff it, right?
They'll ignore it.
And when you do that with fear,it's a little a big or little
elephant, right?
Sitting there, like, I'm hereand I'm in your awareness, but
you're ignoring me.
Where there's actually a way, ifyou'll look at it, you can find
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the root of the fear and reframeit.
And then actually the elephantwill leave.
And that's when you feellighter, and that's when you
actually feel like, oh, I can dothis, right?
That's when your brain gets onboard.
So it's really looking at thefear and the fear for each
person, Mickey, it's so uniquebecause it comes from things
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they've heard, things they'veexperienced.
It could be from childhood, youknow, it's each person has such
a unique human journey.
That's the beauty of it.
SPEAKER_00 (18:22):
Yeah, and you're right, because everybody's
everybody's journey orexperience is gonna lead them to
where they are today.
And until they actuallyacknowledge that and look at it
and see, okay, where what'sholding me back?
What is that limited belief thatI've got to let go of?
You're gonna have a difficulttime moving forward.
And and I think that's witheverybody.
And I I one of the things that II find, even when I when I work
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with my kids and I see, even atthe younger level, you know, you
see something they're alreadyattaching a limited belief to,
and you have to undo it likeright away, because otherwise
they will go through their wholelife believing that, and it's
it's so untrue.
But I think sometimes as adults,we just keep carrying it,
carrying it, we don't even knowwhy anymore.
It's like what or we've had itfor so long, and it's become
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part of our makeup that we justlike we've accepted it, and and
having that opportunity that youtake them through and teach them
what it is so they canacknowledge it and let go is a
very powerful thing you can dofor yourself.
SPEAKER_01 (19:21):
Yeah, and your brain actually, your brain is your
friend.
I love to tell people that yoursubconscious mind is your
friend, and it actually willrespond to you.
So if you're able to reframesomething and your brain
realizes, okay, that is silly,or that's actually not what I
want to experience, it istotally willing to let go.
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You know, most people make itseem harder than it is, where
it's really just that awarenessand then, you know, pointing it
out to your brain, like, hey,buddy, this is not it anymore.
It will say, you know, okay,I'll let go of that.
It's really just that step ofbeing able to face it, right?
SPEAKER_00 (19:59):
And and I think what people have a uh challenge doing
is, and again, it goes back tobeing comfortable.
If you let go of that limitedbelief, now it forces you to
have to step up in your own lifeand make those changes.
And you have no more excuses,and you're letting go of the
limitation.
So and I know people like again,you have to meet people where
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they are.
Yeah, and what do you do whenyou find somebody who comes to
you and says, Okay, I want to dothis and this, but then you feel
Like they've got lots ofreservations and they're having
a difficult time letting go ormoving forward.
I mean, I'm assuming baby stepsto get them going.
SPEAKER_01 (20:38):
Yeah.
And you know, for me, the theone thing that I always talk to
clients about is if you'recoming to me, you're ready at
least from the standpoint toturn the mirror on yourself,
right?
Because if you're not to thatpoint yet, definitely I would
give them like some books toread or some some different
things to check out so that theycould make those steps forward.
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But if you're not ready for thatstep, then we're not, we're not
quite ready for our pathsacross.
But you're totally right.
It's really, it's not asdifficult as it seems like it
will be, but it can be souncomfortable to turn that
mirror on yourself because thenyou're owning it, right?
You're taking fullresponsibility.
You can't put it on yourjourney, you can't put it on
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someone else, you can't put iton anything else but yourself.
That's really the moment youplug into your power, and it's a
beautiful moment, but you'reright.
The person, they've got to beready.
SPEAKER_00 (21:32):
And that's when the healing starts.
Yeah, it really does.
And whether it's healing ormoving forward, and you're
right.
And and I assume that was thecase.
I just know there's peoplelistening that, you know, have
hesitations and reservations.
And my thought would be to thosethat are listening that maybe
don't know where to start,that's a great idea.
You know, maybe get a couplebooks or get something that can
help you get moved forward.
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And then once you realize, okay,I've I'm I'm ready to do this or
I feel strong enough.
And even if you don't, I thinkreaching out to Elizabeth, she
can actually move you in thenext step.
And even if it wasn't to beready with her, at least you
could give give them a step tomove forward or sure.
But for those of you that arelike, oh yeah, I am so ready to
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make a change and do this, thenI highly recommend you reach out
to her and get your journeystarted, especially with a new
year coming.
So, you know, I think this isthe perfect time to do it.
So I know we we've covered a lotof stuff.
So I want to ask you, um, do youhave any books or things that
you've written or things you'dlike to share, you know, with
with our listeners and our ourcircle of friends?
SPEAKER_01 (22:35):
I do have, you know, you mentioned if people want to
get started with some booksspecifically.
I have uh a resource on mywebsite that has all my favorite
books at the moment that theycould check out.
That's a great place to start.
Now, going back to that pointyou made about like maybe you
don't feel ready, I will say,Mickey, like, you know, it's
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part of the human experience tonot feel ready from the
standpoint of like, you know,anything new, it's gonna feel it
if if it didn't, everyone woulddo it, right?
Everyone would be on thisjourney that you and I are on.
So there is some natural part ofthat humanness that you will
feel.
And that doesn't mean, you know,it's a definite no.
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It's just, you know, are you areyou ready to feel that, right?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (23:24):
And you're right.
And I think everybody wantschange.
I mean, you there's there alwayscomes an element or a time in
your life where you're like,there's gotta be more, there's
gotta be something different.
Yeah, or I I need guidance to beable to move to the next step.
And and that's why somethinglike you do is such a gift,
because you give that that uhthat pathway, that journey,
those little steps to be able tomove forward and start on that
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that pathway and that journey tochange.
Um, yeah, I so I'm gonna, I'mjust gonna let you have the last
couple of minutes.
And can you share like maybethree to five things of things
that people could do?
They were like, okay, if I wasgonna start, what were these
changes that I would do, or whatwould I need to do to even
contemplate maybe making achange in my life?
SPEAKER_01 (24:07):
Yeah, I would say one that for sure comes to mind
when it comes to turning themirror on yourself.
One of the first steps,depending on the person's own
journey, one of the first thingsI'll assign as like a homework
assignment is to get into yourown energy.
So for some people, that mightbe meditation.
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For some people, it might justbe sitting in a quiet room and
they don't really call itmeditation, right?
But there's so much noise thesedays, Mickey, like podcasting
things to watch and people andjust all kinds of things that I
find people don't really have anawareness of what they're
feeling and what their energyfeels like.
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So when it comes to turning thatmirror on yourself, you're
removing distractions, right?
You're saying, okay, I'm notgonna be distracted by this
person or that, or get suckedinto their story or their words
or this or that.
So a great first step is toevery day give yourself, start
with five minutes, you can workup to a lot more, but give
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yourself time each day to justbegin to feel your own energy.
And then you can understand howyou're actually feeling.
You know, that time in my lifewhere I wasn't in my power, I
was going so fast and so much, Ididn't have awareness of what
was actually going on, right?
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With my own energy.
And that was actually one of thefirst big steps for me was to
just turn off all distractions.
And it's not comfortable, youknow, it's not necessarily fun
at first, but it will be it willbe worth it for sure.
SPEAKER_00 (25:49):
That's uh you're right, that's a very powerful
step to to do.
So, how can people find you?
Um, if they're listening to thepodcast, obviously, again, like
you guys know, the link will bedown below if you want to reach
out to Elizabeth.
But for those listening on thethe podcast, or if you're
listening to this on your car,you're on the YouTube, how can
they how can they reach you?
How can they find you?
SPEAKER_01 (26:10):
My website is elisabethpain.com.
Really easy.
I am also active on LinkedIn andFacebook and Instagram and
YouTube.
So definitely check out yourpreferred path.
And yeah, like Mickey said, ifyou have questions, hit me up.
I'm I am all ears.
SPEAKER_00 (26:31):
Well, thank you so much for being with us today.
I really appreciate you takingthe time and sharing your
insight.
It was really fun.
Thank you.
SPEAKER_01 (26:38):
Thank you, Mickey.
SPEAKER_00 (26:39):
All right, you guys, thank you so much for being with
us today.
I am so glad that you've joinedus.
And uh, for those of you thathave got friends and and maybe
family that need to hear this,please, please share.
Um, remember to like and shareuh this channel.
And then also please bring yourplease keep your comments, your
questions, and your suggestionscoming of people that you would
like for me to have on as myguests.
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Until then, remember the mostcourageous thing you can do is
be yourself.
Until next time, I'll see ya.
Hey, I'm Coach Mickey, and welcome to Coach
Mickey and Friends.
And if this is your first timejoining us, come on in and make
yourself comfortable.
And for those of you that joinus on a regular basis, we are so
glad that you do.
I love hearing from you guys,and thank you so much for always
connecting with my guests.
And I love your comments, yourquestions, and your suggestions
of people you'd like to have on.
Uh, and also I appreciate eachand every one of you that has
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reached out to me personally forsome of the questions for my
guests.
So when I have the opportunityto bring them back, we can uh
revisit those questions thatyou've sent me.
And I want to thank all of youand show my gratitude for all
the support and love and the umwonderful referrals you guys
have given me for my book,Fourth and One Mindset.
(01:13):
If you don't have that link,it's down below.
And uh, if you listen to thepodcast, um you can also find it
where it says connect with CoachMickey.
So I am really excited today.
This is going to be so much fun.
I have got somebody that isgoing to open up your mind, your
heart, your soul, and give yousome incredible information to
make your life amazing.
And uh I am going to bring on awoman who is an empowerment
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coach, a visionary guide.
Her mission in life is pluggingpeople back into their power via
backpack awareness and emotionalresponsibility.
Besides shifting realities andholding a space for epic
transformation, Elizabeth lovesall the things mystical,
laughing, playing in the quantumsavoring life, uh, exploring new
places, being outside with herhusband B and her doggy
(01:58):
sidekick, Luna.
So welcome, Elizabeth.
Hey, how are you?
SPEAKER_01 (02:04):
That was a great intro.
I'm excited to chat with youtoday.
SPEAKER_00 (02:08):
Well, I'm glad you're here.
And uh I love it when I have gotother guests on that says, Hey,
I've got somebody that isdynamic that you need to have on
as a guest.
So I want to give a shout out toKatrina.
Thank you so much.
I love your girlfriend.
You are awesome.
Uh, thank you for connecting thetwo of us.
So I gotta ask.
So I I love what you're doing,and I had an opportunity to look
at some of your information.
(02:29):
And uh, so I'm gonna just giveyou the mic and let you share uh
who you are and what you do, andand we'll just go from there.
SPEAKER_01 (02:37):
That's that sounds great.
Thank you, Mickey.
As you said, I am an empowermentcoach, and my specialty is
plugging people into theirpower.
You actually always have yourpower, it's innate, right?
You're born with it, but mostpeople are not aware that
they've actually unplugged fromit.
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And I myself was that way for along time.
And once I plugged back into it,everything changed.
And so did my life journey, mymission, right?
My mission became tellingeveryone about it and then
holding space for other peopleto have that same experience.
SPEAKER_00 (03:19):
Okay, so give us an out, give us a little bit of
insight on what you mean bythat, like uh tapping back into
your your empowerment, yourempowerment.
How do you how do you go aboutthat?
SPEAKER_01 (03:29):
Yes.
So for me, my previous lifejourney was in engineering.
I had decades of experience inthat career, and I poured
everything into that.
And I actually thought that Iwas experiencing my power,
right?
I thought I was powerful, I hadthe dream job that I wanted, and
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other people in my community sawme as a leader.
And from the outside, it waslike, oh yeah, she's definitely
plugged into her power, but Iwasn't feeling great, and I
wasn't being honest with myselfabout that.
So you'll know if you're pluggedinto your power or not based on
how you feel.
(04:13):
If you're feeling great, no,it's not you're feeling great
all the time because it's ahuman journey, right?
But you're not mostly feelingnot great and feeling unclear
and just, you know, not certain.
I was always kind of chasingmore, but just there was this
nagging feeling that it wasn'tthe path I was meant to be on.
(04:36):
And everything was much moredifficult than it really should
have been.
So for me, whenever I learnedthat my power was actually
within, and I began to look atwhat was happening on the
inside, you have to slow down abit, right?
Because oftentimes when you'rein that power mode, you're also
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racing.
So I slowed down and began tolook at, oh, how am I actually
feeling?
Am I enjoying this?
Right?
Like, is this actually what Iwant to be doing?
And also, what were the beliefsthat were driving me, the
limitations?
You know, I was expending somuch energy, but it was just
(05:20):
this out of control effort withnot as much to show for it as
really what could have been.
So, really, for me, thedefinition of plugging back into
your power is getting back tothat place of alignment where
you have clarity and you'refeeling good.
SPEAKER_00 (05:38):
Now, did you, since you started out as an engineer,
do you I mean, because thatthat's a lot of schooling,
that's a lot to go through.
I know how difficult it isbecause my son, right now, is
going to school to be anelectrical engineer, and I know
what he's going through.
And it is it is not an easyjourney.
I know it's not.
So when I know when you weregoing through that, at the time,
(05:59):
did you feel as though that'swhere you were supposed to be?
And then as you got into it, youkind of changed and evolved to
bring you to where you aretoday.
SPEAKER_01 (06:08):
Yeah, definitely.
And I am a hundred percentcertain that every part of our
journey is there for a specificreason.
So for me, that part of myjourney, which lasted multiple
decades, was actually a hugecatalyst to keep me going,
right?
To keep me moving forward.
(06:28):
It was a bridge, you could say,to this life that I'm living
now.
And definitely without that, Iwould not be here.
But there was a time where that,to my mind, was a hundred
percent what I believed I wantedto do, and I believed I was
where I wanted to be.
But what happens with the humanmind is that you're limited,
(06:52):
right?
You can only see so manypossibilities.
So, given the possibilities thatI had available to me, that was
the best one.
But over time, a lot of newpossibilities became available.
And then it was like, okay, withthese new ones now in my
awareness, that was no longerthe one I was settling for.
(07:13):
If that makes sense.
SPEAKER_00 (07:15):
Yeah, it does.
It does.
And the the other thing too is Ithink a lot of times we have a
direction that we're going andthat we've worked really hard
for.
And we we ought to look at itand go, my gosh, I put so much
time and energy into this.
And I think where people getstuck a lot of times is they
don't realize that sometimesthis is a great place to be and
a good stopping point, but thenit's gonna branch out into other
(07:37):
areas where you can still grow.
And and even if you'recomfortable, and I always say
being comfortable is the mostdangerous place you can be in,
but you have to be able to lookat, okay, where can I go from
here?
Or is it a detour?
Is this someplace that maybe ismy stopping spot?
And I'm gonna it's gonna lead meto something else.
So, how did that work for yougoing from an engineer to what
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you're doing now?
Because this is a completelydifferent mindset.
I mean, it's completelydifferent.
SPEAKER_01 (08:05):
Yeah, and you hit it, you hit it on the head for
sure.
Because a couple of things.
One, if there was something thatwas going to stop me, it was
actually the comfort that youtalk about, right?
Because when you get in thatspace of this is known, this is
familiar, your brain likes it.
It feels good, even if likeevery part of my body and my
(08:27):
soul was screaming, no, youknow, we're not doing this
anymore.
This is not the answer.
But my brain's like, oh, but weknow this and we've done it for
so long, and you're really goodat it.
You're totally right.
If you can push yourself to leaninto that, okay, what why am I
holding on to this comfort andthis safety?
(08:47):
I do air quotes, right?
The safety and the known,everything magical, right, and
miraculous is on the other sideof that.
Now, for me, the other piece wasmy engineering brain was very
logical.
So I had to, you know, start toreally press the edges of that,
(09:08):
first in like a minor way, andthen in a really big way,
because my logical brain had tolet let go a lot for me to be
able to experience a lot moremagic.
SPEAKER_00 (09:20):
Yeah, and that's the that is a huge endeavor because,
like you said, you're going fromone thing that you know, and
that's what one side of yourbrain, and now what you're doing
is more an emotional, not onlythat you're reaching out, but
what a gift that you could gofrom from doing what you were
doing as an engineer and beingso analytical and so structured,
you know, with things that havegot to be there.
(09:42):
There really is very, and youtell me I don't know that much
about engineering, but I'massuming there's not a lot of
gray area as an engineer.
It's pretty black and white,right?
SPEAKER_01 (09:51):
Yeah, yeah.
And you're right, it's nice.
I do appreciate like like goingback to that part where we were
saying every part of yourjourney is there for a reason.
I appreciate that I have thatexperience because when people
come to me and they're in thatlogical mindset or they're in
that safe and known and familiararea, I have that experience to
(10:12):
say, yes, I know what your brainis doing in this situation.
Now, as far as, you know,engineering and logic and
feeling safe and it feelingknown, it really is about just
opening up to additionalpossibilities because your brain
is the only thing limiting that,right?
(10:33):
And once you can even just crackthe door open and say, okay, I
don't know what this looks like,but I'm I'm I'm available for
something else and somethingmore.
That's when you really crackthat door open to let other
things come into yourexperience.
SPEAKER_00 (10:49):
I think the the most important thing that I you
tapped into was the fact thatyou were open to making a choice
because a lot of people getstuck.
They think, this is it, this iswhat I did, this is what I'm
working for, is I don't know ifI'm capable of anymore.
And taking a risk is soimportant.
So too many people are afraid todo that, especially with the
change.
(11:09):
I mean, it's a very dramaticchange.
And uh so I'm gonna I want toskip ahead a little bit.
So when you try decided to uhyou know take on something
different and move on to whatyou're doing now, what what what
to walk me through the processthat you went through to lead
you to where you are today?
SPEAKER_01 (11:28):
Yeah, and like you said, some people get part of it
for me was that moment whereyou're like, okay, I just
committed two decades of my lifeor more to this, right?
Like I've put all my eggs intothis basket, and you know, your
brain will say to you, like, whyare you throwing this away?
But that initial perspectiveshift was very much, you know,
(11:51):
we're not throwing anythingaway.
One, it's just using thoseexperiences and seeing it as a
bridge, but two, understandingthat the human journey is meant
to be dynamic, right?
Like there was this old kind ofmodel, um, this old conditioning
of like you pick one thing andyou just go for it and you're 50
(12:15):
years later and you finish it,right?
And imagine, like now I can lookback on that and be like, wow, I
can't, I can't fathom thatbecause I've expanded my mind so
much in the last 10, 12 years tothink that I was just done, you
know, learning at that point.
No matter where you're at onthis human journey, there's more
(12:37):
to learn.
You can always discover newthings.
And oftentimes when people arein that where they're like, I've
put so much into this, I've gotto stay here.
It's just because they'veforgotten that there's still so
much life to experience and somuch to discover, right?
SPEAKER_00 (12:54):
And I think you you just nailed it.
And I and I that's the thing Icome across a lot too, is people
like, oh, I put so much time andenergy in this, and I've worked
hard, I've done this for years.
How can I start something new?
How can I just walk away fromthis?
And I think a lot of timespeople think this is not like,
okay, you know, you're cuttingthe ties of your past or what
you're doing right now to jumpinto something new.
(13:16):
There can be a gradualtransition to, you know, and
still do it because I find thatif you're not doing what you
love or if it's you're nothitting the ground running when
you get up in the morning, youknow, with what you're you're
going to do each day, then youhave to weigh out do I really
love this, or am I just goingthrough the motions and I'm
(13:36):
letting time go by?
And and you have to make thatchoice.
And I've come to that crossroadmany times too.
But I think where people getstuck is you've got to go, okay,
is it worth the risk?
And then if it is worth therisk, you got to be able to
accept it's gonna be a journey,it's gonna take time, and
there's gonna be times you'regonna have to pick yourself up,
(13:59):
right?
SPEAKER_01 (14:00):
Yeah, and it's really one step at a time.
Like a lot of times when you'rewhen you're looking like ahead,
your brain's like, oh man,that's like 40 steps away.
And really like getting out ofthat big picture mode and just
remembering it's literally onestep at a time.
SPEAKER_00 (14:21):
So so tell me what you do when someone comes to you
and and was going to work withyou and they are going through
the same journey like you'veexperienced, and they're like, I
need a change, I need somethingdifferent.
How do you walk them through?
By the way, first of all, uh, ifyou guys are listening on the
podcast or you're here with uson the YouTube channel, um, if
you would like to uh connectwith Elizabeth again, you know
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the links will be below.
And if you're listening to thepodcast, just click on her name
and it'll take you right to herwebsite.
So um uh so what would you do,Elizabeth?
If somebody walks in and says,Okay, I need a big change, my
life is not where I want it tobe, where do I go?
SPEAKER_01 (14:56):
Yeah, yeah.
And it's definitely differentfor each person, but the crux of
it is always the same.
So people come to be and we wenail down a vision.
Like where do they seethemselves going, right?
Like, is it a change in theircareer?
Is it feeling better in theirphysical body?
Is it a change with arelationship or calling in a new
relationship?
(15:16):
You know, what is the vision?
That's the first step.
And then the next step is okay,what is in your backpack that is
not aligned with the vision?
So it's easy for most people,honestly, to connect to the
vision.
Most people have a great visionthat they share with me, but the
next step is the key becauseyour brain is either on board
(15:37):
with the vision or your brain isnot on board.
And if your brain is on board,it is a lot, there's more ease,
right?
The steps are revealed, you cantake it step by step and you're
feeling good.
If your brain's not on board,you're spinning your wheels.
And most people, when they getto me, they don't have awareness
of where their brain's not onboard.
(15:59):
So that's where we start.
That's that's the big hitter,right?
Like that's the slam dunk.
So it's get clear on the vision,and then where is your brain not
on board?
And I have a specific processfor helping people to reframe
their subconscious to get theirtheir brain on board.
SPEAKER_00 (16:18):
Well, that's the key.
It's mindset.
And and the mindset, I think,wherever we come in with or
wherever we're where we are, youknow, we're meeting people where
they are at the moment, isgetting them to realize that
there's so much more than whatthey're they're allowing
themselves to think about or orto bring forward.
Um, so so tell me some of thestories.
I mean, some of the things thatyou find that people maybe
(16:41):
struggle with the most, and andhow do you help them get over
that obstacle?
SPEAKER_01 (16:46):
Yeah, I would say in like let's say somebody comes to
me for a career change, or they,you know, they have a specific
vision for what they, even ifit's not a career change,
something they want to do intheir career, that's very
common.
And normally when we lean intothe backpack to say, okay, where
is your brain not on board?
(17:06):
They have fear.
There's fears.
It could be fear of the unknown.
That's very common, but thefears honestly are different for
each person and they're endless.
So it's it's very unique.
The key with fear though is thatmost people, they've kind of
conditioned themselves to justignore the fear because they
don't know what to do with it.
So it's like I don't want tokeep, I don't want to keep
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interacting and engaging withthe fear because it doesn't feel
great and I don't know what todo with it.
So they'll just stuff it, right?
They'll ignore it.
And when you do that with fear,it's a little a big or little
elephant, right?
Sitting there, like, I'm hereand I'm in your awareness, but
you're ignoring me.
Where there's actually a way, ifyou'll look at it, you can find
(17:52):
the root of the fear and reframeit.
And then actually the elephantwill leave.
And that's when you feellighter, and that's when you
actually feel like, oh, I can dothis, right?
That's when your brain gets onboard.
So it's really looking at thefear and the fear for each
person, Mickey, it's so uniquebecause it comes from things
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they've heard, things they'veexperienced.
It could be from childhood, youknow, it's each person has such
a unique human journey.
That's the beauty of it.
SPEAKER_00 (18:22):
Yeah, and you're right, because everybody's
everybody's journey orexperience is gonna lead them to
where they are today.
And until they actuallyacknowledge that and look at it
and see, okay, where what'sholding me back?
What is that limited belief thatI've got to let go of?
You're gonna have a difficulttime moving forward.
And and I think that's witheverybody.
And I I one of the things that II find, even when I when I work
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with my kids and I see, even atthe younger level, you know, you
see something they're alreadyattaching a limited belief to,
and you have to undo it likeright away, because otherwise
they will go through their wholelife believing that, and it's
it's so untrue.
But I think sometimes as adults,we just keep carrying it,
carrying it, we don't even knowwhy anymore.
It's like what or we've had itfor so long, and it's become
(19:06):
part of our makeup that we justlike we've accepted it, and and
having that opportunity that youtake them through and teach them
what it is so they canacknowledge it and let go is a
very powerful thing you can dofor yourself.
SPEAKER_01 (19:21):
Yeah, and your brain actually, your brain is your
friend.
I love to tell people that yoursubconscious mind is your
friend, and it actually willrespond to you.
So if you're able to reframesomething and your brain
realizes, okay, that is silly,or that's actually not what I
want to experience, it istotally willing to let go.
(19:41):
You know, most people make itseem harder than it is, where
it's really just that awarenessand then, you know, pointing it
out to your brain, like, hey,buddy, this is not it anymore.
It will say, you know, okay,I'll let go of that.
It's really just that step ofbeing able to face it, right?
SPEAKER_00 (19:59):
And and I think what people have a uh challenge doing
is, and again, it goes back tobeing comfortable.
If you let go of that limitedbelief, now it forces you to
have to step up in your own lifeand make those changes.
And you have no more excuses,and you're letting go of the
limitation.
So and I know people like again,you have to meet people where
(20:22):
they are.
Yeah, and what do you do whenyou find somebody who comes to
you and says, Okay, I want to dothis and this, but then you feel
Like they've got lots ofreservations and they're having
a difficult time letting go ormoving forward.
I mean, I'm assuming baby stepsto get them going.
SPEAKER_01 (20:38):
Yeah.
And you know, for me, the theone thing that I always talk to
clients about is if you'recoming to me, you're ready at
least from the standpoint toturn the mirror on yourself,
right?
Because if you're not to thatpoint yet, definitely I would
give them like some books toread or some some different
things to check out so that theycould make those steps forward.
(21:00):
But if you're not ready for thatstep, then we're not, we're not
quite ready for our pathsacross.
But you're totally right.
It's really, it's not asdifficult as it seems like it
will be, but it can be souncomfortable to turn that
mirror on yourself because thenyou're owning it, right?
You're taking fullresponsibility.
You can't put it on yourjourney, you can't put it on
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someone else, you can't put iton anything else but yourself.
That's really the moment youplug into your power, and it's a
beautiful moment, but you'reright.
The person, they've got to beready.
SPEAKER_00 (21:32):
And that's when the healing starts.
Yeah, it really does.
And whether it's healing ormoving forward, and you're
right.
And and I assume that was thecase.
I just know there's peoplelistening that, you know, have
hesitations and reservations.
And my thought would be to thosethat are listening that maybe
don't know where to start,that's a great idea.
You know, maybe get a couplebooks or get something that can
help you get moved forward.
(21:53):
And then once you realize, okay,I've I'm I'm ready to do this or
I feel strong enough.
And even if you don't, I thinkreaching out to Elizabeth, she
can actually move you in thenext step.
And even if it wasn't to beready with her, at least you
could give give them a step tomove forward or sure.
But for those of you that arelike, oh yeah, I am so ready to
(22:14):
make a change and do this, thenI highly recommend you reach out
to her and get your journeystarted, especially with a new
year coming.
So, you know, I think this isthe perfect time to do it.
So I know we we've covered a lotof stuff.
So I want to ask you, um, do youhave any books or things that
you've written or things you'dlike to share, you know, with
with our listeners and our ourcircle of friends?
SPEAKER_01 (22:35):
I do have, you know, you mentioned if people want to
get started with some booksspecifically.
I have uh a resource on mywebsite that has all my favorite
books at the moment that theycould check out.
That's a great place to start.
Now, going back to that pointyou made about like maybe you
don't feel ready, I will say,Mickey, like, you know, it's
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part of the human experience tonot feel ready from the
standpoint of like, you know,anything new, it's gonna feel it
if if it didn't, everyone woulddo it, right?
Everyone would be on thisjourney that you and I are on.
So there is some natural part ofthat humanness that you will
feel.
And that doesn't mean, you know,it's a definite no.
(23:19):
It's just, you know, are you areyou ready to feel that, right?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (23:24):
And you're right.
And I think everybody wantschange.
I mean, you there's there alwayscomes an element or a time in
your life where you're like,there's gotta be more, there's
gotta be something different.
Yeah, or I I need guidance to beable to move to the next step.
And and that's why somethinglike you do is such a gift,
because you give that that uhthat pathway, that journey,
those little steps to be able tomove forward and start on that
(23:47):
that pathway and that journey tochange.
Um, yeah, I so I'm gonna, I'mjust gonna let you have the last
couple of minutes.
And can you share like maybethree to five things of things
that people could do?
They were like, okay, if I wasgonna start, what were these
changes that I would do, or whatwould I need to do to even
contemplate maybe making achange in my life?
SPEAKER_01 (24:07):
Yeah, I would say one that for sure comes to mind
when it comes to turning themirror on yourself.
One of the first steps,depending on the person's own
journey, one of the first thingsI'll assign as like a homework
assignment is to get into yourown energy.
So for some people, that mightbe meditation.
(24:29):
For some people, it might justbe sitting in a quiet room and
they don't really call itmeditation, right?
But there's so much noise thesedays, Mickey, like podcasting
things to watch and people andjust all kinds of things that I
find people don't really have anawareness of what they're
feeling and what their energyfeels like.
(24:50):
So when it comes to turning thatmirror on yourself, you're
removing distractions, right?
You're saying, okay, I'm notgonna be distracted by this
person or that, or get suckedinto their story or their words
or this or that.
So a great first step is toevery day give yourself, start
with five minutes, you can workup to a lot more, but give
(25:12):
yourself time each day to justbegin to feel your own energy.
And then you can understand howyou're actually feeling.
You know, that time in my lifewhere I wasn't in my power, I
was going so fast and so much, Ididn't have awareness of what
was actually going on, right?
(25:32):
With my own energy.
And that was actually one of thefirst big steps for me was to
just turn off all distractions.
And it's not comfortable, youknow, it's not necessarily fun
at first, but it will be it willbe worth it for sure.
SPEAKER_00 (25:49):
That's uh you're right, that's a very powerful
step to to do.
So, how can people find you?
Um, if they're listening to thepodcast, obviously, again, like
you guys know, the link will bedown below if you want to reach
out to Elizabeth.
But for those listening on thethe podcast, or if you're
listening to this on your car,you're on the YouTube, how can
they how can they reach you?
How can they find you?
SPEAKER_01 (26:10):
My website is elisabethpain.com.
Really easy.
I am also active on LinkedIn andFacebook and Instagram and
YouTube.
So definitely check out yourpreferred path.
And yeah, like Mickey said, ifyou have questions, hit me up.
I'm I am all ears.
SPEAKER_00 (26:31):
Well, thank you so much for being with us today.
I really appreciate you takingthe time and sharing your
insight.
It was really fun.
Thank you.
SPEAKER_01 (26:38):
Thank you, Mickey.
SPEAKER_00 (26:39):
All right, you guys, thank you so much for being with
us today.
I am so glad that you've joinedus.
And uh, for those of you thathave got friends and and maybe
family that need to hear this,please, please share.
Um, remember to like and shareuh this channel.
And then also please bring yourplease keep your comments, your
questions, and your suggestionscoming of people that you would
like for me to have on as myguests.
(27:01):
Until then, remember the mostcourageous thing you can do is
be yourself.
Until next time, I'll see ya.
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